Sabotage Your Leagumates By Droppings These Players || Fantasy Football 2025

Summary

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Episode: Sabotage Your Leaguemates By Dropping These Players | Fantasy Football 2025
Date: November 5, 2025
Hosts: Dave Kluge & Alfredo Brown

Overview

In this lively and insightful week 10 episode, Dave Kluge and Alfredo Brown break from the usual fantasy advice to focus on a spicy strategy: "Sabotage Drops." The duo, known for their blend of solid analysis and playful banter, run down a list of big-name and highly-rostered players it's finally time to drop from your fantasy squads—either because their usefulness has plummeted or to lure unsuspecting leaguemates into poor waiver pickups. With a mix of statistical insight, bold opinions, and laughs, they guide listeners through roster triage for the playoff push.

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Key Themes & Purpose

• Sabotage Drops: Identify formerly high-value fantasy football players (often with strong name brand) who are now more likely to clog rosters than contribute to playoff success.
• Roster Optimization: Stress the importance of maximizing upside and freeing up bench spots as you head into the stretch run of the season.
• Fake-Out Opportunities: Highlighting the psychology of tricking league opponents into burning FAAB or waiver claims on recognizable, but ultimately disappointing, players.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Setting the Stage: Less Than 1% Appeal?

• The show opens with Alfredo joking, "Let's do a show that's probably going to appeal to less than 1% of our audience." (05:59)
• Dave and Alfredo set a playful tone, emphasizing that this episode is about letting go of once-valuable but now-lemon players—even if it feels emotionally difficult.

Sabotage Drop Candidates

Each host brings four players to the table, starting with the "least spicy" choices and escalating toward the hottest takes. For each player, they explain why the metrics, usage, and team context make them droppable—even if it causes a stir in league chats.

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1. Hollywood Brown (WR, Chiefs)

• Dave's Pick; Timestamp 07:53
  • "He's averaging just 3.3 targets per game over the last month... If he is in your lineup, something probably went terribly wrong with your season." (08:14)
  • Touchdown luck has disguised otherwise low volume and tough schedule ahead.
  • Suggests prioritizing injury-away RBs or streaming options over holding Brown.

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2. Nick Chubb (RB, Texans)

• Alfredo's Pick; Timestamp 09:16
  • Chubb's value propped up by touchdowns, but efficiency and role are gone.
  • "He's a touchdown-dependent running back four, essentially, with almost no contingent upside." (10:58)
  • Woody Marks and others are eating into snaps; Houston will likely evaluate their rookie down the stretch.

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3. T.J. Hockenson (TE, Vikings)

• Dave's Pick; Timestamp 12:56
  • "He is a per game tight end 26. Like, if you're in a two tight end league, you don't even want to be relying on T.J. Hockenson right now." (13:06)
  • Name value disguises how empty the stats are (few double-digit games, little efficiency).

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4. Jordan Mason (RB, Vikings)

• Alfredo's Pick; Timestamp 15:17
  • "He's just not a league-winning type player... If we're going to do this, let's go for the upside." (16:40)
  • Contingent value busted; even when given a lead role, only low-end flex outcomes.

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5. Tony Pollard (RB, Titans)

• Dave's Pick; Timestamp 20:37
  • Once a near-RB1; now RB34 in per game value and dropping.
  • "Nobody winning a championship this year is going to do so with Tony Pollard in their starting lineup." (21:41)
  • In a timeshare, rough upcoming schedule, and zero trust even if injuries strike.

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6. Corey Cross Merit "Bill" (RB, Commanders)

• Alfredo's Pick; Timestamp 24:37
  • "He has been the reason you have lost three games in a row... just a touchdown-dependent running back 3, no receiving upside on a team that's going to be trailing in games." (25:32)
  • Three-headed, unpredictable backfield; usage and offensive environment cratering.

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7. Travis Hunter (WR, Jaguars)

• Dave's Pick; Timestamp 29:00
  • Despite improved injury news, timeline/usage unclear, may not meaningfully contribute in fantasy playoffs.
  • "He's probably going to be deadweight for most of the season." (30:36)
  • Exceptions made for IR spots; if no IR, drop now and let others take on the headache.

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8. Alvin Kamara (RB, Saints)

• Alfredo's Pick; Timestamp 35:06
  • Name value lags far behind actual output. "Three receptions for 15 yards this season on screens or backfield flares for Alvin Kamara. That's it." (36:30)
  • No explosive runs, no passing role, offense sunk, and visible lack of drive/desire on field.
  • "All these numbers tell you he's not making explosive plays... If the team had some upside, that's different. They're sad bad right now. They're sad bad also." (40:38)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Roster Cloggers:
  "We could have rebranded the show as, like, roster cloggers to get rid of, but I like the Sabotage drop."
  — Dave (07:13)

• On Dropping Tony Pollard:
  "Somebody's going to spend 60, 70% of the remaining fab. But nobody winning a championship this year is going to do so with Tony Pollard in their starting lineup."
  — Dave (21:41)

• On Letting Go:
  "Take a deep breath after this episode. Think about it. Marinate on it because some of these players, it's going to be tough to press the drop button, but you probably should at this point. Okay, just, just do it for yourself. Do it for your mental health."
  — Host (42:38)

• Alfredo on Tony Pollard:
  "That's what it's like starting Tony Pollard over and over. It's just eating hot dogs day after day. Just throw them out, throw them out. Do yourself a favor, go get some new groceries."
  — Alfredo (22:03)

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Segment Timeline

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------| | 06:03 | Introduction to Sabotage Drops concept | | 07:53 | Dave: Hollywood Brown pick | | 09:16 | Alfredo: Nick Chubb pick | | 12:56 | Dave: T.J. Hockenson pick | | 15:17 | Alfredo: Jordan Mason pick | | 20:37 | Dave: Tony Pollard pick | | 24:37 | Alfredo: Corey Cross Merit "Bill" pick | | 29:00 | Dave: Travis Hunter pick | | 35:06 | Alfredo: Alvin Kamara pick | | 42:38 | Closing thoughts/advice to listeners |

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Tone & Language

The hosts maintain a high-energy, irreverent atmosphere full of banter, running jokes (pickles, sad-bad teams, eating hot dogs), and audience engagement (“let us know what you think—pickles 1 to 100 rating”). Stats and player breakdowns are clear and actionable, but always delivered in a conversational style designed to keep even “tough love” fantasy reality fun and relatable.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Don’t let historic production or name recognition trick you into wasting precious roster spots.
• Prioritize players with real upside, especially handcuffs, streaming options, or those with clearer path to touches.
• Consider who you can “trap” leaguemates with on waivers. Sometimes, dropping a name player helps more than holding him.
• Roster management down the stretch is no place for sentiment.

Final Thoughts

This is a must-listen (or summary to read!) for any fantasy football manager on the playoff bubble who’s ready to make tough calls and add a little chaos to their league. “Just do it for yourself. Do it for your mental health.”

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Next episode: Week 10 Starts and Sleepers. Stay tuned!

Transcript

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[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

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[Dave]

I wouldn't even call it a regimen. I.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

That was, that was the point of saying it's a day.

[Dave]

It was a nice, nice sunny day out this morning. So I stood outside and drank my coffee, got the sun on my face, and then shaved after that and then took a shower. And as I was moisturizing my hands, I was like, you know, my face is a little dry, so slapped a little Aveeno on my cheeks.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Slapped a little Aveeno on your cheeks. It's a hell of a way to start the show.

[Dave]

Yeah. Feeling bougie as heck this morning with my nice supple cheeks.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Didn't like that supple cheeks, slapping them. Getting them nice and moisturized.

[Dave]

Back to the skin regimen thing though. I will say, like a lot of people DM'd me after we had that discussion. A few. Whatever that was. A month, two months, three months ago.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And a lot of people were like, dude, Dave, like, you need to wear sunscreen. And I want to set the record straight. When I go out hiking, I wear sunscreen. Okay. You know, I, I, I do take care of myself in that respect. And you have to out here. Like, the, the ozone is thin up here. Those UV rays come through, you're closer to the sun. It's sunny, it's hot. I do wear sunscreen when I hike. I want the record to show.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah, thanks a lot, Tesla and chat GPT OpenAI ruining our ozone. It's your fault.

[Dave]

Oh, is that it?

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

I don't know. I just want to blame someone. I want to blame a big corporation.

[Dave]

Amazon, you're the reason I have sunburn.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Damn you, Bezos. Damn you.

[Dave]

But no, I, I do wear sunscreen when I get out here especially I will say the worst sunburn I ever got in my life. I climbed Mount Albert. It's the tallest mountain in Colorado, and climbed it in May where there was. So you climbed it.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You're talking like Mission Impossible 2 style.

[Dave]

This one we did get pretty far off trail and had to bust out the, the ice axes and all that stuff because we got a little bit.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Ice axes. Oh, that's so cool.

[Dave]

Yeah. And this, you know, is like a steep, I mean, it's pretty scary. Like it's a big snowfield that's at like a 45 degree angle. And if you fall, like you're just going to slide to the end of the snowfield and fall off a cliff. So weren't supposed to do it that way. It's supposed to be like a nice easy trail up to the summit. But we got a little bit lost because the whole mountain was covered in snow. And we got in a steep section that got a little bit sketchy. But that was the worst sunburn I got in my life because I was wearing a bucket hat, which protected me on the sun coming down from my head. What it didn't protect me was the sun that was hitting the snow and reflecting it into my face. So hike. It was like a 16 hour day, like from, you know, we left before the sun came up, got back and the sun was already down. I passed out. Woke up in the morning and I had such bad sunburn. I couldn't like open my eyes. The next day my eyelids were like swollen shut from sunburn. My lesson, sunscreen. Ever since.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

What happens when you get to the top of these mountains, like when you're hiking, there's not like A gondola that takes you down. It's just, you're. You're there now and you go, ah, this is, this is nice. And then you just go right back down.

[Dave]

Yeah. Usually hang out on the summit for about 15 minutes or so. You know, take some pictures. It's a really scenic moment and you enjoy it. But usually when you get up there, you're at the high point in the mountain range, so the winds are hitting you at like 40, 50 miles an hour.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Like you don't want to be there for a while. Yeah. You get up there and you're like, we did it. All right, now let's get down. And I will say getting down is much easier. Like, going up the mountain is an arduous journey. Typically what I'll do is run down the mountain. Like, I'll jog my way back down the trail most of the time. Times.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

This is like driving to the worst place ever, realizing it's terrible weather. When you get there, be like, all right, let's drive back home, family. Like, that's. That's kind of how it sounds.

[Dave]

I don't know how to. It's a spiritual journey is what it is.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

That requires sunscreen.

[Dave]

It does, yeah. That's. That's the only way. Like, one. It's good for your physical health, you know, hiking, doing all that sort of stuff. Good leg workout, cardio, all that sort of stuff. But for me more than anything, it's like the spiritual journey, the accomplishment of climbing a mountain and, like, knowing that I did it with my own two feet. It's a. It's a fun hobby, but I think it probably appeals to, like, less than 1% of people in the world.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah. Less than 1% is being kind there.

[Dave]

I mean. Yeah, that's a good point. There's a lot of people that live in Colorado that I invite with, and they're just like, no, dude, you're crazy. I'm not doing that. I'm going to brewery. And. Well, let's.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Let's do a show that's probably going to appeal to less than 1% of our audience.

[Dave]

Let's do it.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

They're not going to like it. Here we go. It's week 10 and we are talking about players you can actually drop from your rosters that are going to sabotage your league. League mates. And we're talking about really high profile players that you were excited to draft or you were excited to trade for early in the season. And now you're saying, okay, it's time to quit on these Guys. So Dave Kluge and I have each come up with four players that you can drop from your rosters, and we'll. We'll talk like, a little bit about some players that we'd rather have on our teams. If you can try to trade these players away, more power to you. But these are the fun Sabotage drops that you can do around this time of year where that. That manager that's in, like, last place or second last place, they think they're getting a good player and they pick them up, they start them and they're like, ah, my team still sucks. Got it.

[Dave]

Or even better yet is when like, the first, second, third place guy is like, this is that guy that's going to push me to a championship. And they blow all of their fab on a guy who ends up inevitably being a roster clogger. So, I mean, that's what these guys are like. We could have rebranded the show as, like, roster cloggers to get rid of, but I like the Sabotage drop.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Can we get some more hit the drop. We need to get. I was just. That's exactly what I was gonna say is we need the music license. Joe Bryant, start talking to whatever music label we can get here. All right, Dave, we. We each have four players that we're going to talk about here. Why don't we do this? Let's start off with, like, the least spicy ones and save the. The spiciest, the scariest, the. The bigger names for the end here. That's right.

[Dave]

You pump up that watch time.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah, that's right. You're gonna have to watch the whole damn thing.

[Dave]

Thing.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Welcome to the show. All right, Dave, hit us with your least spicy of your four players.

[Dave]

All right, then, Hollywood Brown. Probably the least spicy of the four, but still rostered in a ton of leagues. And I get it. He's been turning in wide receiver to production over the last month since Rashid Rice returned. But it's unsustainable. Hollywood Brown is not going to remain a wide receiver, too. In fantasy. He's averaging just 3.3 targets per game over the last month. He has three touchdowns in those four games, which is really pumping up his fantasy value. And there's a handful of decent matchups throughout the rest of the season, but. But five of seven matchups between now and Week 17 are negative matchups for the Chiefs passing attack. Now, I have faith in Patrick Mahomes overcoming bad situations, and Rashi Rice and Xavier Worthy, they're going to get theirs. That when you start looking at the fourth option in the passing offense. Yeah, I'm looking at Travis Kelce ahead of Hollywood Brown right now. I just don't see him worthy of a roster spot. The way I look at it, you're never going to feel confident starting Hollywood Brown. Like if he is in your lineup, something probably went terribly wrong with your season. So just let your league mates deal with the headache. He's a guy that I think you could drop right now. Somebody is going to go out there and say, wow, Hollywood Brown on the Chiefs like he's finally breaking out. They're going to spend some fab on him. Let him. I would much rather have an injury away running back, somebody with a little bit more upside. Even if I'm streaming quarterback or tight end kind of looking ahead at the schedule, streaming defenses like I will try to get a secondary defense. There are so many roster spots that are just more valuable right now than what Hollywood Brown would bring.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Can I tell you that I almost put Dave, you're worthy on this list as well.

[Dave]

Oh, now that, that have been spicy.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

It's not that crazy though. Wide receiver 59 last week. Wide receiver 39 the week before that. Wide receiver 47 the week before that. There just hasn't really been legit fantasy value since Rasheed Rice came back. And I think the same could be said for Hollywood Brown.

[Dave]

We're just living in it.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rashi Rice and the Redwood. That's a, that's a, that's a book to read about the Chiefs pass catchers. There's like 8% of people are going to get that joke. Joey Wright will and he'll, he'll let us know in the comments. All right, first guy I want to talk about here, pretty simple one. I think this is an easy one as well. Nick Chubb. He's rostered in 59% of fantasy leagues. Dave is running back 43 1/2 PPR points per game. And that's like, that is skewing towards what Nick Chubb is good at, which is not having to catch passes and just be able to get break off big runs, score touchdowns. That, that just doesn't happen for him, especially not in this offense, not at this age, not at this point in his career. Two games with double digit fantasy points this season, Dave, and it's because he got lucky off of touchdowns and one.

[Dave]

Of them was literally given to him. Todd Bowles said they let him score. Like his biggest play of the year was a 29 yard touchdown where the Bucks said just score. We need the ball back right and it's like.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

And in those games where he's scoring touchdowns, it was 11 and 12 carries. That's never going to have you excited about a player be like, yeah, man, Nick Chubb, 12 carries in one of the worst offenses in the league. Let's go, let's do that. 2.8 yards per carry. Let's ride. Super excited. It's just not how it works. And he hasn't been above a 45% snapshare since week three. I know that Woody Marks hasn't totally taken over the backfield, but it's enough where neither of these guys are super valuable. I think I would rather have Woody Marks because of the receiving upside, because he's just way more explosive. He's got the juice. The Texans aren't competing for playoffs, man. We see this all the time, rookie. The roles for rookies get larger as the season goes on. It would not surprise me at all if we're going into the final four weeks of the season and Nick Chubb is at like a 20% workload, 30% and Woody Marks takes over a much bigger workload here. So they can see what they have in him going into the next offseason. Right now, Nick Chubb, he's a tight, he's a touchdown dependent race. Running back four essentially, with almost no contingent upside here. Dave.

[Dave]

Yeah, I wrote about Nick Chubb as a big faller in my rest of season rankings article this week because he's just losing out on the workload and like, at least there was still the out that he was getting red zone work earlier in the season. So you'd hope that he can still plunge in for a touchdown, but he's losing that. Now we're seeing Woody Marks get involved. British Brooks, or I'm sorry, British Brown is getting red zone touches. Dario Goombawale is getting red zone touches. And right now, over the last month, Woody Marks is averaging over one more yard per touch than Nick Chubb is. Like you said, he's got the juice, but the analytics back it up as well. Nick Chubb, you know, happy to see him still out here. Devastating knee injury. Happy that he was able to still like find a role in the NFL, still get paid, stretch his career out a little bit, but his days as a fantasy relevant running back are behind him.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You just made me realize I really want to do an episode where we just talk about a bunch of players whose names sound like they're not real, like British Brooks and Britain Brown and a bunch of these other, like, that's who you mixed up right there?

[Dave]

Yeah, I did. Yeah. I mean, I'm so two NPC NFL players that I'm not going to waste my time getting to know.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

All right, you got three more players. So do I. These are going to get progressively spicier as we go along here. I think these first two were easy. Dave, I actually think you and you agree too. Like, this next one you have is easy, easy, but there's a name value associated with it. There's a premium position associated with it. Talk to us about why people should be dropping T.J. hawkinson.

[Dave]

Yeah, I mean, at first, like, I was thinking of players to drop and I couldn't really think of a good guy. And then what I did is I went in the sleeper app and I sorted by rostered like percentage, how many, you know, leagues a guy's rostered in. And I was shocked when I saw that 71% of leagues still have somebody holding on to TJ Hawkinson doing here. He's, he's a per game tight end 26. Like, he's not even prefer. Like, if you're in a two tight end league, you don't even want to be relying on T.J. hawkinson right now. And yes, there is name value here, but he has two games this season with double digit PBR points. He is 19th in targets per game. He is outside of the top 30 in every single efficiency metric that I care about. Lowest average target depth of his career. He's not generating any yards after the catch. He's not breaking tackles. He's scored a couple of touchdowns, which is cool. But you know, there's a lot of other tight ends that are doing that right now. We've talked a lot this season about just how the NFL is shifting towards 12 personnel being the base for a lot of teams. And what that has done is really kind of made the tight end market flush this year. Like, I'm looking at guys that I'm ranking on a weekly basis at like tight end 20, tight end 24 that I'm still looking at as weekly streamers because there are a lot of teams that are passing heavily to tight ends and a lot of teams running multiple tight end sets because of that and because of TJ Hawkinson's dip in efficiency, just the Minnesota Vikings woes as a whole. He should not be dropped right now. And if you drop them, a lot of people are hurting for tight ends. They're going to say like, whoa, TJ Hawkinson, like, that's the guy I need to turn my season around. And the reality is he's going to keep providing tight end three production.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

I think at the end there, you said he should not be dropped. You mean he should not be rostered.

[Dave]

He should not be starting rostered? Yes, yes.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Two receptions in each of these last two games. And it's not like you could say, well, the snaps are trending upward, right? Like they're not trending downward either. They're there like he's already got a full time role and it's not getting better. Now granted, the Vikings could be better under JJ McCarthy, he said with a question mark, but I don't know if that necessarily means anything better for TJ Hawkinson. In terms of fantasy. I'm, I'm talking about another player from the Vikings as well. And if this ties in really well, Dave. Jordan Mason, running back for the Minnesota Vikings. Let's go back to like what was a week two, week three. I think it was week two, right when Jordan Mason was the guy to pick up after the Aaron Jones injury and said, yep, he's going to be really good in this first week against the Bengals. And then he did call that one.

[Dave]

We, yeah, we, we. Our crystal ball was, was showing us the, the right things that day.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

And it's just like, yeah, man, like he is who he is. It's not that he's a bad player, he's just not a league winning type player. We've seen even what the contingent upside was when there was no Aaron Jones. The Vikings said, cool, let's get Xavier Scott out here to go catch some passes. Jordan Mason, have you seen the clip of him getting absolutely dog walked by Jack Campbell in that Lions game? It is, oh my, it's, it's. Honestly, it's hilarious. Like it's genuinely really funny. Jack Campbell just on a straight blitz up the middle, nothing crazy, takes Jordan Mason head on and walks him back like 4 yards directly into JJ McCarthy. And that's how McCarthy goes down on the sack. Is Jack Campbell throwing Jordan Mason into the quarterback? It's absolutely insane. So on top of not being like a big pass catcher, he's a liability in pass blocking. He has not been an efficient runner. Aaron Jones, for everything that we want to say about his injuries, his age, he's been a much more explosive running back. He's Jordan Mason right Now, running back 31 in half PPR points per game. And that's been a guy who's been starting for most of the season here. That's highly inefficient. Since week four, he's Averaging three and a half yards per carry. So we know we're not getting the big explosive plays. It's just something Dave, where I. I don't want to have to have that on my mind each week. Where I go, huh, Do I flex Jordan Mason? Do I, Do I do that and I get a cool seven points? No, man. Like, if we're going to do this, let's go for the upside. Because I'm like, yeah, I get it. People are going to say, well, that one or two extra points could make the difference in your league. Fine. I could start a Blake Corum, who I know is a backup but has a touchdown upside or potentially a league winning upside later in the season. And by the way, Blake Corum is the guy I'd rather have over all these running backs at this point. I. I just give me upside. We're at the point of the year where upside is the only thing that matters to me.

[Dave]

And even if you don't have upside, I think there's just like, better options that you can find on the waiver wire than Jordan Mason. Like, last week I'd have preferred Terrell Jennings ahead of Jordan Mason. Like, this week you could probably pick up a Ty Johnson or just Justice Hill, who's probably going to give you more points than Jordan Mason. So we saw the best case scenario where, you know, Aaron Jones early in the year went on IR and we were getting RB3 production from Jordan Mason in all but one game. So I'm completely with you. He was another one of my biggest followers in this week's rest of season rankings article. Push him down to RB50 on the year because the efficiency has been terrible. Like, even if Aaron Jones does miss time, you're hoping for RB2 production. When Aaron Jones is out there, he is the clear, better running back. So just to throw a few names ahead like that, I have ranked ahead of Jordan Mason that might be on your waiver wire right now that you could swap out Kenneth Gainwell, Bam Knight, Isaiah Davis, Trey Benson, Kamani Vidal, Chuba Hubbard, Kareem Hunt. I mean, a lot of those guys aren't available on waivers. I was just reading straight off the list there, but, like, that's where I'm at with Jordan Mason is that I would prefer so many other injury away running backs to him.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Isaiah Davis is the name you mentioned there. This is purely narrative.

[Dave]

Right.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Like, there's nothing we can get from this. If you're Breece Hall.

[Dave]

Yeah. Do you. My ankle's starting to hurt. Right.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Right.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

I have diarrhea I can't play this week. Sorry.

[Dave]

I mean it is pretty insane for him to like come out and say like I want out of here and be like tweeting through like the hours leading up to the trade deadline and they're just blowing it up, getting rid of everybody. And like we knew that they were in talks to trade Breeze hall too. Like it was just a compensation. Like the Chiefs wanted to give up before fourth, the jets wanted a third. So like, I don't know how is Bree hall, you return to this organization after telling everybody publicly that you want out and then knowing that the jets were trying to trade you.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Like it's not even just Bree, it's the. The Jets. You just got all this draft capital trading away your two best player, two of your three best players. If we're going to include Garrett Wilson there.

[Dave]

Right.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

What, what team building sense does it make to have Breece hall as the other cornerstone here?

[Dave]

A guy who has on an expiring contract. Right?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

While we have two others that have been productive when they've been given the chance. Like a guy who does not want to be here. Go get a fourth round pick, man. Like it's. It's really not that crazy.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

I just want to give the reminder to. Chase Claypool got traded for a second.

[Dave]

Round pick which ended up being the 32nd pick in that draft. If you remember, the Dolphins were without a first round pick that year that ended up being the first pick in round two. So yeah, you say second round pick, but it was pretty much a first round pick.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

And yeah, and then that boomerang back around to the Dolphins when Chase Claypool ended up on the team and cost us a couple games. So yep, I said all this. It ended up hurting both of us.

[Dave]

Chase Claypool, he. He drums up a lot of negative reactions from a lot of fan bases. It's not just us.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Go pick up Chase Claypool. Just for fun. Drop Jordan Mason. Pick up Chase Claypool. See what happens in your league. Just create chaos. People are gonna be like, wait, what do you know? What do you know?

[Dave]

What do you know that I don't?

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Dave]

Jace Claypool will be trending on Sleeper later this afternoon.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yep. You're welcome, Sleeper. You're welcome, Chase. I don't even. I don't know. All right, two more players here for each of us. Dave, this is where we're starting to get into the spicy. Like if this was hot ones, we're getting to the point where the guest is cursing at the host and drinking Milk, let's, let's go. Let's kick up the spice.

[Dave]

I'll save the bomb for, for my last one, but let's go with Tony Pollard. Here he is the RB34 on a per game basis this year, and the RB36 since Tajie Spears has returned. I mean, this guy's giving you low end RB3 value. His best so far this year in PPR, 13.9 points. That's not much of anything at all. And then on top of that, the Titans have the toughest remaining schedule of any team for running backs. And their fantasy schedule, like, or, I'm sorry, their fantasy playoff schedule is even worse. They get San Francisco, which is a negative matchup. They get Kansas City, which is one of the worst matchups, a running back in face. And then in championship week, they get the Saints, which are another negative matchup. So I guess the fear here with dropping Pollard is similar to the feel with fear with dropping Jordan Mason. Like, what if Aaron Jones gets hurt? What if Tajie Spears gets hurt? But even then we saw what he saw with the backfield to himself, right? That's like, you know, the first month and a half of the season, Tony Pollard had the backfield to himself and he was a low end RB3. So the efficiency has been terrible. The Titans stink. Taj Spears is taking over as the better talent right now, and the remaining schedule here is absolutely brutal. So I think Tony Pollard is one of those names. You know, he was almost an RB one last year and you know, there's still a lot of name value associated with Tony Pollard. I think if you drop him, you'll probably get roasted in the league chat. People will be like, oh, what are you doing dropping Tony Pollard? Somebody's going to spend 60, 70% of the remaining fab. But nobody winning a championship this year is going to do so with Tony Pollard in their starting lineup.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You know what this is? I'm realizing this is when you get towards the end of the food that's left in your fridge and you're just like, ah, I can't do groceries yet. There's still some food. And you find yourself like it's three days in a row that you've been eating hot dogs out of the fridge. That's what it's like starting Tony Pollard over and over. It's just eating hot dogs day after day. Just, just throw them out, throw them out. Do yourself a favor, go get some new groceries, man. Like, just, let's go. You can't, you can't live like that. It's not healthy for you. It's not good for your GI system. Come on.

[Dave]

I made some pretty crazy meals when we're like, getting to the bottom of the fridge. The other day, actually, I took like.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You make crazy meals when you're at the top of the fridge, Dave. You're like eggs and cottage cheese mixed with chick salad. Put it in a blender, drink it.

[Dave]

That does sound pretty good. But now, the other day I took a tortillas and lunch meat and then I just put a pickle spear in the middle and wrapped them up. And I was just eating these like.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You had me until. Pickle spear.

[Dave]

You don't like pickles?

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Pickles are the devil's fruit. It's horrendous.

[Dave]

I love pickles. We actually go to the farmers market and this guy makes these spicy pickles. And he always makes me an extra spicy with, like, extra peppers that he sets aside for me because he knows that I'm going to be there every other week buying hot pickles. If you're watching on YouTube, let us know what you think. Pickles 1 to 100 rating. I'm giving them a 99 and a half. Pickles are one of my favorite foods.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

0. Get it out of here. Get it out of here.

[Dave]

All right, next one about your spicy pickle. Who are you dropping?

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Easy. This is a family show. Not telling anyone about my spicy pickle.

[Dana]

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[Dave]

But first.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

There, the last one.

[Dana]

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[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Next guy I want to talk about. He's already got a cool nickname, so we can't call him the Spicy Pickle, but Corey Cross Merit. All right, guys. I said it. I said it. We could. I'm. I'm fine giving up on Bill. I'm fine doing it. Listen, if someone wants to keep them, I've got no qualms against it. This is the. This is the Time where we can be like okay, sure there's a reason to keep some of these guys. He's rostered in 84% of leagues. He's the running back 37 in half PPR points per game. But over the last three weeks, Dave, he's down to running back 61 in points per game. And you've been starting him for each of those three weeks like he has been the reason you have lost three games in a row on your fantasy season. Jaden Daniels is out. This commander's offense, this commander's team is already not very good now with Marcus Mariota starting they're going to be trailing in so many of these games and Bill is essentially a zero in the passing game. That's where you're going to get a lot of your Jeremy McNichols and we've already started to see this three headed hot hand approach that they've been doing there in Washington has not been great for him. He's only had two games this season over a 50 snap share. Chris Rodriguez had 34% of the snaps last game and he gets a touchdown. Jeremy McNichols was at 43% of the snaps the game before that in a heavy receiving role. By the way, sorry for calling him a sleeper flex play last week that didn't work out at all. We're gonna just go right past that. But Bill at this time like he's just, he's a touchdown dependent running back 3 no receiving upside on a team that's going to be trailing in games. That's not the kind of guy I want to rely my season on. So maybe you don't sabotage drop him. Maybe you can try to trade him but I don't know what you're going to get in return. That is exciting. Like I would Jacori Cross key merit for Aaron Jones. Dave. Yes.

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah, I'd prefer Aaron Jones over to Corey Crosby. Merit.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah, that's the problem as I don't think that people are even going to do that trade. The Aaron Jones manager is like no, I saw how good he was when he was in there. I'm going to hold on to him. Yeah, I don't think anyone's taking. I keep wanting to call him JCM because Bill just makes no damn sense. But Bill, yeah, I don't think anyone's gonna take him. I think he's a sabotage drop at this point.

[Dave]

Yeah, another big faller in my rest of season rankings. You know that 150 yard two touchdown game in week five and since then 41.5 scoreless yards per game like he is. And the frustrating thing too is like there are reasons to get excited. Like, the efficiency has been admirable. He's generating yards after contact, he's breaking tackles. He's doing all the things that we want to see from a running back. But he is so aim script dependent on a bad offense now that if he doesn't rip off a big play, if he doesn't find the end zone, you're looking at four points in your lineup saying, what did I do here? Like, he doesn't catch any passes. And now with Marcus Mariota, like you said, I don't think this is going to be a very good offense. There's not going to be a lot of scoring opportunities. So you'll get a handful of four and five point weeks. Every once in a while he'll plunge into the end zone, you'll get 10 or 11. But I just don't think there's much upside in his profile.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah, man, same here. Same here. This is where now you and I are gonna go to. What is it? It's called Da Bomb. I've never actually seen an episode of Hot Ones. I've only ever seen the clips.

[Dave]

So I am not like, I'm not one of those people that's into like celebrity culture. Like I don't, you know, pay attention to a lot.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You don't say.

[Dave]

But. But I do like Hot Ones and I'll go through like if you look, you know, there's hundreds of. I forget if it's Hulu or Netflix, but there are so many episodes and just pick the people you like. You know, Vince Vaughn is a really good one. Shia LaBeouf is really funny as well. And yeah, it's fun. Like 15 minutes.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Did you say Shia LaBeouf?

[Dave]

I did, yeah. His.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

The commenters are going to love that.

[Dave]

His is one of my favorites actually. Like, he's trying so hard to hold it together and just like you're literally.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Becoming the Shia LaBeouf meme where he's. Or he's watching himself in the theater and just crying and smiling. He's just admiring himself.

[Dave]

I am a big Shia LaBeouf fan, which is funny given the, the comments that we get off. We got to hurry up.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Dave's got to watch Transformers.

[Dave]

Yeah, I, I haven't seen Transformers actually. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. But what was the one recently? Peanut Butter Falcon. Have you seen that one? That would. It is.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

That is.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

I know of it. I have not seen it. But this is very on brand that you've seen Peanut Butter Falcon and not Transformers and then I have seen Transformers many a times, but not Peanut Butter Falcon.

[Dave]

Yeah, this is a good one. All right, sure.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Anyways, back to fantasy football.

[Dave]

Yeah. Spicy pickles. We ready for it? The last one.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Let's hear it.

[Dave]

Travis Hunter. I know, and we got good news a couple of days ago and I think that's why this is a sabotage drop because the news was that his injury wasn't as serious as initially expected. And that's great news. But still he's on IR and the best case scenario is that he is back by week 13. So let's just play this out. You hold him for the next three weeks, right? And then he hopefully returns. And at that point we have to see how he is going to get acclimated into an offense that added Jacoby Myers and gave him enough time to get up to speed in this offense before he returns. We assume that by the time he returns from IR, Brian Thomas Jr. Will have this ankle injury behind him as well. So the reality is that like you're not going to feel good putting him in your lineup in week 13. You're going to want to see how this plays out first. Maybe he's involved, maybe he's not. Maybe there's a ramp up. Maybe you feel better about using him in week 14. Maybe by week 15 you finally start feeling good enough to put him in your line up. But that's the best case scenario assuming that he only misses four weeks. Liam Cohen didn't come out and say that he's going to miss four weeks and return in week 13. They said it's better than we initially expected. Where the initial expectations were that it's a season ending injury. So what happens if he comes back in week 15? There's no chance you're putting him in your lineup then you're not putting him in your lineup if he returns in week 16. So the reality is he's probably going to be deadweight for most of the season. If and when he does return, it's going to be so late that you're not going to feel confident putting him in your lineup. So this is one where I know like I was a big Travis Hunter fan. I had him ranked higher than anybody else in the industry going into this season. I was so excited that we saw the post or the pre buy breakout, hoping that that would roll over into the second half of the season. But he picked up an injury and I just don't see how he's able to come back, show enough that you feel good about putting him in your lineup between now and the end of the season. So I'll drop him and let somebody else deal with that headache.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

So I'm going to look at this the other way. Because he's on ir, I don't have to deal with it for four.

[Dave]

If you have an ir, I do.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Get to pick someone up. Right. So, like, it's not detrimental to me where I'm doing the thing where I'm starting him and he's leaving games early due to injury or not producing. So, like this one, I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be a little different than you on this one. Also, looking at.

[Dave]

And I will say, if you have an IR spot, absolutely, that's what IR spots are for. But.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Right.

[Dave]

I'd say about half of the leagues that I play and have an IR spot. Half don't. In the leagues that don't have an IR spot. That's where I'm dropping in.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Fix your leagues, man. That's. That's on you. It's your fault for having leagues. I will say this like I was looking at something from Liam Cohen where he's talked about wanting to get Kobe Myers going, keeping things simple. And it does seem like the idea here is going to be another thing he just mentioned. Parker Washington will remain the primary slot receiver, while Jacoby Myers will get to play on the outside and Brian Thomas on the outside as well. To me, what that says is that the roles are pretty much set with. With Brian Thomas and Jacoby Myers on the outside. And then when Travis Hunter returns, he's taking over for Parker Washington in that slot role. So that's where I'll differ a little bit. Like, I do think when Travis Hunter comes back, he's back into his role and it's a more defined role in the slot. Am I going to be comfortable starting him the week one that he's back? It all depends on what my injury situation is. But if we're going into weeks 15, 16, 17, those playoff weeks, and I've made it there. Yeah. Especially looking at matchups. We. I. I'm gonna be more comfortable starting Travis Hunter. So I. I can hear what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're putting down, Kimosabe. I'm just not all the way with you.

[Dave]

Yeah. And I. I think my fear is just that he's going to miss more than just. I. I think people just assume that, you know, because it was better news than is initially expected. We, like, if. If they thought he'd be back in week 13, I feel like they would have said that by now. Is that, like, he'll return after ir? All we got is that, like I said, better than expected, which gives people these warm and fuzzies. But I still think he's probably going to miss more time. So if he's coming back in week 15, week 16, and then you need to see a week of him on the field before you put him back in your lineup, that just makes the path for him to, like, actually be a league winner, a guy that you're playing in fantasy championships in your lineup. I feel like the path to get there is so narrow, it'll take a little bit of luck. Like, everything has to break in the right direction to get there. And of course, yeah, if you've got an IR spot, don't drop Travis Hunter. But if you don't have an IR spot, if you've got benches, this is one that I'm okay just letting somebody else deal with.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

I will say. The matchups, Week 14 and 17, prior to the playoffs and the championship game, are the Indianapolis Colts, a secondary that has been pretty bad against wide receivers. I know they just traded the farm for Sauce Gardner. Got to imagine Sauce is. Is going to be on Brian Thomas Jr. In those games on the outside, trying to eliminate the big plays over the top. If this is something we get, and these are very specific matchups, like, those are the times where I'm like, okay, hey, I'm. I'm starting Travis Hunter in these games. So it's all things to consider, I will say.

[Dave]

I mean, if there is a silver lining. Yeah, they play the jets, the Broncos, and the Colts. So those are two of those three games. You know, we're probably going to see Sir Tan, assuming he's back in week 16, shadowing Brian Thomas Jr. And then coming into week 17, we're probably going to see Sauce Gardner shadowing Brian Thomas Jr. So it could set up opportunities for Brian for.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

For.

[Dave]

Travis Hunter. They have these big weeks, but I'm also just like, I feel like them going out and bringing in Jacoby Myers to me tells me that they probably aren't expecting Travis Hunter to be back immediately.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Yeah, I mean, it could be the thing we talked about yesterday. Right. It's just there's no Travis Hunter. They are a competing team. Brian Thomas Jr. Also has an injury. Diamond Brown came up with an injury as well. Breton Strange has been out. Like, there's so many of these things. So it could just be, hey, let's just get another good, good player in here as a rental and let's, let's get them all working.

[Dave]

My major read on the Jacoby Myers trade after I kind of ruminated on it, after we had a live react yesterday, I, I think what this tells me, if I'm trying to read the tea leaves. We've talked so much this year about how Brian Thomas Jr. Just is not a fit in this offense. I wonder if bringing in Jacoby Myers, that then gives them the flexibility this offseason to feel a little bit better about trading Brian Thomas Jr. Away going into next year with Kobe Myers and Travis Hunter as the one in two do.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

That's what I would have thought. That's what I would have thought is you can get Hunter, Myers, Washington, you know, whatever, maybe you start to go do something else in the off season. Okay, final guy, we're going to talk about another spicy one here. Alvin Camara, he's rostered in 93 of leagues. I know you drafted him early. He's the running back, 41 in half PPR points per game this season. Just like Bill over the last three weeks it's been terrible. Running back 64 in points per game. And once again, it's not a guy that you have kept on your bench. It's a guy that you have been starting because of the name value or because you got excited. Okay, Tyler Schuck is in here now. Maybe it's a new offense, something's a little different. It's gotten worse for him and he's just simply not part of the passing game. Dave, Nick Underhill, who covers the Saints, he, he put this out there earlier today. Three receptions for 15 yards this season on screens or backfield flares for Alvin Camara. That's it. Most years he's at four or five times that amount in both receptions, targets, yards, everything. There's just not, not a big passing game role for Alvin Camara this year. And it's been a little bit of both. Spencer Rattler, Tyler Schuck are just not dump off quarterbacks. And on top of that, this offense from Kellen Moore has not been something where they've said, you know what, we need to get the ball to Camara in space because it just hasn't worked. Camara doesn't look like the same guy either. You go and you look at him in the running side, he hasn't been efficient there. 0 runs of 20 plus yards this season. He's 31st in runs of 15 plus yards. He's 37th in runs of 10 plus yards. He's 38th in runs of 5 plus yards behind Nick Chubb, who like we're laughing at as a highly inefficient runner at this point of his career. He's 43rd in yards after contact per attempt. He's not making big runs. He's not making big plays. He's not catching passes. His team is nowhere near the end zone. I just, I don't see it. You can't start him. You don't want to keep him on your bench because there's no contingent upside. Kendra Miller's already been injured. Alvin Camara is the starter. There's nothing there. It is okay to just cut bait at this time on Alvin Camara.

[Dave]

Yeah, this is another one that like the, the name value is really propping him up more than anything. And I'm just like so confused by what has transpired over the last couple of weeks with Alvin Camaro. Like, I understand wanting to retire Saint, the team that drafted you and you found success with, but I, I wonder his comments about, like, you know, if you trade me, I'll just be drinking pina coladas on a beach somewhere. I wonder if that just completely killed his, his trade value and like, there weren't teams interested in even trying to bring him out there. I understand him wanting to finish there, but, like, you know, he looked like he didn't want to be a part of the team last week. Like his final two snaps that we saw last week, it was a fumble in the third quarter and then he came in on the fourth quarter, gave up on a pass blocking assignment that allowed pressure to get to Tyler Schuck where he threw an interception. Like those were his last two snaps in this game were a fumble and then a missed assignment that caused a pick. He doesn't look like he wants to be there. He was like despondent and angry on the sidelines. So I don't know what happens from here on out. Devin Neal, I don't think he's very good. Like, they don't want to just like give Devin Neal all the work. I think some work is still going to Camara, but he doesn't seem like he wants to be a part of this offense. They don't want to use him in this offense. The offense itself, like we have just seen over the years, Kellen Moore's offense doesn't draw up passing attempts to or passing targets to running backs like other offenses do. So there's very little ceiling here. I'd be nervous about dropping him just because it is Alvin Camara. And you know, we, we want the big play upside to be there, but there just hasn't been anything from this year that tells us that that should happen. Like all of the efficiency is just the worst it's been of his career.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Let's do this. Let's play a game real quick. Okay. I'm gonna go through his game log, upcoming matchups, you tell me if you're starting him or where he'd be. RB2, RB3.

[Dave]

I've got him ranked as a rest of season RB3. So it's going to be really tough for me to say that he's ever going to be in RB2 in any matchups.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Okay. Saints at Carolina.

[Dave]

No, probably not. No.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

They want to RB2, RB3. No.

[Dave]

Yeah. They want to take the air out of the ball and slow the clock down. And that doesn't let. What we want. No, no. Their run defense has been much better over the last few weeks.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

You maybe say week 13 against Miami and what's, what's, what do you think is the best case scenario in a game like that?

[Dave]

Do you think there's a touchdown Alvin Camara, It's a five touchdown game like we've seen.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

No, but like, let's be realistic, let's be realist.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Not.

[Dave]

His scenario is maybe 90 scrimmage yards and a couple of touchdowns, you know, and that's. But we've also seen he just randomly shut down Bijan a few weeks ago. Who Miami's gonna be on a weekly basis.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

They don't even know who they're gonna be. I mean, it's actually, when you look at it, it's a decent schedule, but even against a decent schedule, you don't trust starting Alvin. Compare against any of these teams. Carolina, Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Carolina again, the jets now without Quinn and Williams. Tennessee titans in week 17, seen for the fantasy championship. Going up against Jeff Simmons. Like, I, I don't expect there to be touchdown upside. We're already seeing. There's not past catching upside. There's no explosive plays. I, I don't even care. Even with a good schedule. Like, I just, I don't care. I'm not going to be starting him.

[Dave]

Yeah. And I'll read a couple stats that I pulled in my article because again, you know, we're talking about a lot of people that were fallers in my rest of season rankings article. Of course. And as a receiver, fewest rushing yards per route run of his career, 5.4 yards per reception. Lowest of his career, 2.58 yards after contact per attempt. Lowest of his career. Missed tackles on just 15.1% of his attempts. Lowest of his career. And I mean, even just the raw output, rushing yards per game, receiving yards per game, both the lowest of his career. So Father Time is undefeated, and I think he came knocking for Alvin Camara this year.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

All of these numbers tell you he's not making explosive plays. The team isn't setting up explosive plays. The team is not able to score or sustain drives. There's everything that these numbers are telling you is that it's just not there for him or the team. If the team had like some upside where it's like, yeah, they can score there, there's a little Jameis Winston esque offense going on here where they're gonna be passing a ton and, you know, they become like fun bad. That's different. They're. They're sad bad right now. They're sad bad also.

[Dave]

You know, breaking news, as we do on this show so often, Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin not at practice today. First practice of the week. And I know there's a lot of hope that Chris Godwin and Bucky Irving would both be so back. So Tez Johnson, Rashad White, hope you didn't drop them because we might be getting another week of him here.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Are you doing the thing where you try to trade them before they turn into pumpkins?

[Dave]

Rashad White? Absolutely not. I'm worried, dude. Like, Bucky Irving just a week ago was still spotted in a walking boot. Like, this could end up being a series time. And then Chris Godwin, you know, coming off of the dislocated ankle, then immediately re injuring the fibula. I've got concerns about him, too. I mean, I'm. I'm taking the cheese on Rashad White and Tez Johnson. I think the fear maybe is that, like Jalen McMillan comes back in and takes Tez Johnson's role a little bit, but have not been getting good vibes around Godwin or Irving's injury. And Rashad White, I mean, he's. He's been a plug and play RB1. So I'm just holding on to him. Even if Bucky Irving does come back, re injures whatever might happen here, like, Rashad White is just a very, very valuable handcuff.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Well, there it is, kids. We went through all of the players to sabotage, drop to just ruin the seasons of the other people in your fantasy league. I know. Take a deep breath after this episode. Think about it. Marinate on it because some of these players, it's going to be tough to press the drop button, but you probably should at this point. Okay, just, just do it for yourself. Do it for your mental health. All right? At least you'll know what, what you're getting each week out of this.

[Dave]

This.

[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

Dave and I are going to be back again tomorrow with our starts and sleepers for week 10. We did that new format. We're going tier by tier through all the rankings, but we're looking more at the players that are deeper in those rankings. The players you're not sure about starting, especially with injuries. Bye weeks. Everything that's been accumulating, it's getting a little more challenging for you to make these starts to decisions. So we'll be back again tomorrow. As always, I want to thank everybody for watching or listening all the way through. For myself, for Dave. We'll see you next time. Ideas?

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[Host (Co-host with Dave)]

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