Way-Too-Early Rankings (Top-24) || Fantasy Football 2026

Summary

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Footballguys Fantasy Football Show

Episode Title: Way-Too-Early Rankings (Top-24) || Fantasy Football 2026
Date: January 22, 2026
Hosts: Dave Kluge, Alfredo Brown
Guest: Andrew Cooper (Fantasy Alarm)

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Episode Overview

In this “Way-Too-Early” rankings special, Dave Kluge and guest Andrew Cooper challenge themselves to draft their consensus Top 24 for the 2026 fantasy football season. With the NFL Draft and free agency yet to come, there's loads of uncertainty, but the duo provides sharp, practical analysis on player value, emerging talent, and how coaching changes might impact early fantasy football strategy. The show balances in-depth football conversation with plenty of fun banter, making it engaging even for those not deep into the fantasy off-season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Way-Too-Early” Exercise: Why Do It?

• The rankings come before free agency and the draft, giving perspective on player value before offseason changes.
• Andrew Cooper: “This process of two-on-one drafting the top 24 players on January 21st is insanity. But we're going to do it … it sets the tone for how we go into the offseason.” (01:44)

2. How Offseason Chaos Affects Rankings

• Dave shares past lessons (e.g., overreacting to the Rams' additions and moving Puka Nacua down in last year's ranking when he shouldn't have).
• Andrew discusses his “color-code” system for team situations, marking who is really “free-agency agnostic.”

3. First-Round (Picks 1-12): “These are the Prime Time Players”

(See below for the draft order and critical comments)

1. Bijan Robinson (RB, Falcons)

   • Coop: “Averages 110 yards from scrimmage per game. He’s a major focal point … perfect combination of floor and ceiling.” (04:43)
   • New coaching staff, but talent transcends.

2. Jahmyr Gibbs (RB, Lions)

   • Dave: “In games he’s played without David Montgomery, he is averaging nearly 30 points per game.” (05:30)
   • New OC Drew Petzing, but strong offensive line.

3. Christian McCaffrey (RB, 49ers)

   • Coop: Age 30 season, high touch count, but “If a guy is currently healthy, I’m not going to try to play doctor fortune teller … I’m just going to take Christian McCaffrey.” (09:03)

4. Puka Nacua (WR, Rams)

   • Dave: “Per-game, the top scoring fantasy WR this year … I’m etching it in stone … I’m not going to move.” (11:33)
   • Discussion on value even if roster changes.

5. Ja’Marr Chase (WR, Bengals)

   • Coop: Highest floor and ceiling. “His QB is incredible. Hoping Bengals invest in OL to let Chase thrive.” (13:16)

6. Jaxon Smith-Njigba (WR, Seahawks)

   • Dave: “Targets are just funneled so heavily to JSN … If the defense gets a little worse and game scripts are more pass-heavy, we might not have seen his ceiling.” (14:19)

7. CeeDee Lamb (WR, Cowboys)

   • Coop: “Alpha stud WR … transcends other assets on the team.” (16:36)
   • Health affected 2025 dip.

8. Omarion Hampton (RB)

   • Dave’s “spiciest” pick. “Mike McDaniel signed … a better offensive line … I have him as RB3 in my 2026 rankings.” (18:49)

9. Jonathan Taylor (RB, Colts)

   • Coop: “Easy to forget … MVP candidate. #3 all-time in yards per scrimmage among actives.” (20:43)

10. Drake London (WR, Falcons)

    • Dave: “Injuries clouded his season, but between injury stretches, he was a lock for 100 yards and a TD.” (22:55)
    • Expected connection with Cousins.

11. Amon-Ra St. Brown (WR, Lions)

    • Coop: “Any given year can be WR1. Lions are now a team that handles business with ease.” (25:20)
    • Volume rock solid, coach changes shouldn’t hurt.

12. James Cook (RB, Bills)

    • Dave: “Huge breakout season … very similar profile to Jameer Gibbs, much cheaper cost. This is fair value now.” (30:17)

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4. Second-Round (Picks 13-24): Value, Risks, and Positional Tiers

13. Devon Achane (RB, Dolphins)

    • Coop: “Closest thing to Jameer Gibbs … explosive, awesome player, used as WR often—game script independent” (32:14)

14. Ashton Jeanty (RB, Raiders)

    • Dave: “One of the worst rookie situations imaginable—did all the things we liked at Boise. Raiders hold #1 pick, $100M cap.” (33:58)
    • Real upside for “dynasty brain rot” drafters.

15. Malik Nabers (WR)

    • Coop: “The ceiling: could score 400 PPR points. If healthy, could be the #1 flex player in all fantasy.” (39:20)
    • Injury caveats remain, but upside is immense.

16. Chase Brown (RB, Bengals)

    • Dave: “People missed his late-season dominance. When Burrow is healthy, he’s a top-5 RB weekly.” (42:33)

17. Nico Collins (WR, Texans)

    • Coop: “Maybe getting ahead of myself, but he feels like Mike Evans now. 1,000 yards/five TDs each year easy.” (47:48)

18. Josh Jacobs (RB, Packers)

    • Dave: “Somehow finds the end zone every week … never really had a ceiling year with that OL. Top-10 path in 2026.” (50:57)

19. Saquon Barkley (RB, Giants)

    • Coop: “Still an awesome weapon, especially if team hires creative OC—maybe Slowik or Kubiak.” (51:44)

20. Justin Jefferson (WR, Vikings)

    • Dave: Fallen far enough pick “You talk about guys who could be the #1 flex—Jefferson still checks that box.” (53:31)

21. George Pickens (WR, Steelers)

    • Coop: “Electric … wants to make something happen every time. Diva, maniac, but the big weeks are worth it.” (58:24)

22. Trey McBride (TE, Cardinals)

    • Dave: “Doubt he makes it to the 2.10 in most drafts, but this is where value fits. Top scoring TE almost never lives up to 1–2 turn draft capital, but he’s different.” (59:17)

23. Brock Bowers (TE, Raiders)

    • Coop: “For dynasty, I have him as TE1. Do you have Bowers ahead? … He does special things—just go watch the highlights.” (60:14)

24. **Jeremiah Love (RB, Saints/Bears?)

    • Dave: “Transcendent talent … will be shocked if he isn’t a late 1st/early 2nd pick once he actually gets that draft capital.” (65:33)

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On drafting CMC at age-30:

  “If a guy is healthy, I’m not gonna try and play doctor fortune teller and predict he’s going to get hurt. … Might as well draft the good players and hope they don’t get hurt.”—Andrew Cooper (09:03)

• Highlight on RB Analysis:

  “For guys like Bijan and Gibbs—they’re the best player at every single one of those things. High-leverage situations? Always them.”—Coop (06:40)

• On Wide Receiver Upside:

  “Who could score me 400 PPR points? Once that list is exhausted, then I consider TE or QB … If you don’t see that upside, you don’t take them.”—Coop (41:09)

• Fun banter on Justin Jefferson falling to late 2nd:

  “This time last year if you’d said we’d be disgusted to take Justin Jefferson at the 2.08…”—Dave (55:07)

• On Watching Highlights:

  “Just watch a player's highlights and if you’re putting in the work, you'll get a pretty good idea of what that player can do, right?”—Dave (64:00)

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Other Noteworthy Segments

• Debate about young risky upside (Dave) vs. safe floor (Coop)
  Dave often leans dynasty with high-upside young talent, while Coop takes the reliable producers (“glass of milk” vs. “spicy reapers”).

• Coaching/Free Agency Uncertainty
  They stress that value could flip wildly based on team decisions—watch for post-draft/summer updates!

• Positional Tiers
  Both identify natural breaks at RB and WR after about 18–20 names.

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Top 24 Consensus List (Draft Order)

1. Bijan Robinson
2. Jahmyr Gibbs
3. Christian McCaffrey
4. Puka Nacua
5. Ja’Marr Chase
6. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
7. CeeDee Lamb
8. Omarion Hampton
9. Jonathan Taylor
10. Drake London
11. Amon-Ra St. Brown
12. James Cook
13. Devon Achane
14. Ashton Jeanty
15. Malik Nabers
16. Chase Brown
17. Nico Collins
18. Josh Jacobs
19. Saquon Barkley
20. Justin Jefferson
21. George Pickens
22. Trey McBride (TE)
23. Brock Bowers (TE)
24. Jeremiah Love (rookie)

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

• Start of Rankings Discussion: 04:29
• Bijan Robinson at 1.01: 04:43
• Jahmyr Gibbs Analysis: 05:30
• CMC Age-Apocalypse Debate: 09:03
• Puka Nacua as WR1: 11:33
• JSN Breakout/OC Talk: 14:19
• CD Lamb’s Role and Injury Context: 16:36
• Spiciest Pick: Omarion Hampton: 18:49
• Drake London and Falcons Offense: 22:55
• Amon-Ra St. Brown’s Consistency: 25:20
• Round 2 Begins: 31:44
• Devon Achane’s Unique Usage: 32:14
• Justin Jefferson Value Debate: 53:31
• Tight End Tier: McBride vs. Bowers: 59:17
• Rookie Watch: Jeremiah Love: 65:33

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Major Omissions / Honorable Mentions

• Rashee Rice, A.J. Brown, Peter O. McMillan, Tee Higgins, Bucky Irving, Chris Olave, Derrick Henry, etc.
• Both highlight big names falling out due to uncertainty (e.g., QB situations, suspensions, team changes).

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Closing Thoughts

• Quarterback/Tight End Scarcity
  They discuss when it’s right to pull the trigger for QBs/TEs, but focus this list on flex value.
• Draft Lessons
  Early-season narratives and recency bias can cloud true player value.
• Advice
  Stay flexible, adapt as offseason information updates. Use resources to input scoring/roster requirements for custom rankings.

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For Listeners:

This episode gives an in-depth, highly anticipatory view into 2026 fantasy football. Kluge and Cooper’s combined wisdom, nuanced player analysis, and “risk vs. floor” debates produce a list both practical and laced with upside. Their conversational style and willingness to laugh at their own biases make it an enjoyable listen, even in the offseason doldrums.

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Quotes and timestamps have been included to reflect the speakers’ tone and focus points throughout the podcast.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Launchpad. I'm Dave Kluge, as always joined with a great guest. And today I've got Andrew Cooper, a very good friend of the show and a repeat guest here. Andrew is over at Fantasy Alarm, one of the busiest guys in the industry. He was FSWA's writer of the Year last year in addition to other awards that he won. And what we're going to do today is look ahead at 2026. Now, of course we still have the draft, free agency and so many other things to get through, but we are going to do our best to draft the top 24 heading into the 2026 season. As always, the show would not be possible without you taking the time to listen. Now, let's dive in. Andrew Cooper, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

[B]

I'm doing great. Well, actually, no, I, I want to start off letting people know that I'm being held here against my will. This pro, this process of two one on one draft in the top 24 players on January 21st is insanity. But we're going to do it. We're going to do it because I think it's going to be a good exercise and it's going to help people out. But I just want to know, let people know I'm being held under duress here for this exercise.

[A]

Would it make you feel any better if I told you that I did this same exact show with Theo Greminger on the Fantasy Points podcast six weeks ago? Like in the middle of the NFL, like I'm prepping for fantasy playoffs. And he goes, hey, let's do a way too early 2026 rankings episode not.

[B]

At all shocked because Theo Grem, you're also a sick individual. So that's just par for the course, man. So let's get into it. I this is the kind of stuff I do enjoy doing this stuff. It is a very difficult time to do it, but it really sets the tone for how we go into the off season. Because the things we say now, and especially when we talk about maybe some of the guys that are kind of in a flimsy spot going into free agency or the draft, we can mention that. And then that way, some folks maybe are looking at the draft in that free agency and they say, oh, wow, wait a second, that's what they said they did not want to happen. Or that's exactly what they wanted to happen. And now it's wheels up, so it is a good time to get in and just do a refresher after the season.

[A]

And I know you're already doing the team previews for free agency. Jeff L. And I, we have been digging into free agency as well. So there are some situations that we're going to talk through a little bit. You know, when I did my way too early rankings last year, published the day after the Super Bowl, I had Puka Dukua as my number one overall pick. And then they drafted Terence Ferguson, they signed Devonte Adams. Like, all these things kept happening. They kind of moved him down. And then when I look back at that, I'm like, I should have just stuck my guns, like none of that mattered. Like, Puka Kuwa was still Puka Nakua. But yeah.

[B]

So when I do my free agency preview series, what I do is I go through team by team and I kind of color code the players, the position players, based on where, like, what I think could possibly happen this off season. So if a player is under contract and locked in and they're top dog, they're going to be green on that chart. Guys that are on the team for sure but could lose their role are going to be yellow. Guys that could be released show up red. And guys that are free agents are just showing up blank because we don't know if they're going to be on the team or not. And I will say this for ranking top 24, every one of those guys is going to be green on the chart where they are kind of above the line. They're above the line of where they get super negatively affected by the addition of free agents. You know, so virtually all these guys that we talk about Today should be to some degree free agency agnostic, depending on, you know, what, what the quarterback situation or things like that are.

[A]

Yeah, we'll get into sleepers after the draft, after free agency, when we get the full piece of the puzzle right now. Yeah, these are. These are the top dogs in their offense. And Andrew, you are on the clock 101. Who is the guy that you would be taking first in fantasy leagues in 2026?

[B]

Oh, man, I was hoping to go second. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Bijan Robinson here. I just look at. When you go and look at the players, active players in the league that average over 100 yards from scrimmage for their entire career. Right. Their whole career, whether they're in the league for a long time or a short time. There's only five of those guys and I don't want to list them all. We will go through the list as we pick guys here because there's a lot of great guys on the list. But Bijan Robinson, I mean, this guy averages 110 yards from scrimmage per game. He catches the ball in the backfield. He. He's a major focal point of this team. And I don't think that's going to change under Kevin Stefanski. I think that, you know, with his scheme and more full tight end usage and a focus on blocking, he's going to be just as good, if not better. So I just feel like he's the perfect combination of floor and ceiling.

[A]

And that was going to be my question about Kevin Stefanski. But you, a true professional, already got ahead of it, you know, poking holes in the argument before I even can. So that, that is, you know, I don't want to say fear by any means. I have Bijan Robinson as my second player off the board only because we have seen that Stefanski does like to have a rotation even like prime. Nick Chubb was giving up some passing, passing down duties, but I think that Bijan is such a better pass catcher that you just can't take him off the field for passing down. So my 101, who I'm going to take here at 102 is going to be Jameer Gibbs. And I think that, you know, anytime you're doing this sort of exercise, like drafting at the top, you're probably looking at Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs. And I think it's just kind of a personal preference thing. I expect David Montgomery to be gone. It sounds like he has played his last snap now. They could bring in somebody else. It's way too, too hard to prognosticate about how this entire off season is going to shake out. But we've seen Jameer Gibbs with David Montgomery alongside him can be an RB1. In games he's played without David Montgomery, he is averaging nearly 30 points per game. So looking at Drew Petzig coming in there, we know that he's going to want to establish a run first offense. We know they've got a good offensive line. I don't think anybody listening to the show is going to push back too hard on Bijan Robinson. Jameer Gibbs going one and two.

[B]

Yeah, and the thing about these guys, I always do this thing called the RB questionnaire where I lay out the five different roles a player can have as a running back, right? You've got the starter, you've got kind of the goal line, short yardage guy, you've got a third down guy, you've got the two minute drill, which to me is different than third down because there's no substitutions, you got to know all the audibles and then you've got the late lead, right? And for guys like Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs, they're the best player at every single one of those things. Now the team can potentially opt to use somebody else for late lead, right? Like if they're up by enough. We've seen Tyler Algier, we've seen, you know, Craig Reynolds, whoever play, but when it comes to high leverage situations, these guys are always going to be the guy. And Gibbs ascended that this year where they stopped saying David Montgomery is our bruiser and he's our guy in the goal line, he's our guy. Like they basically said Jameer Gibbs is our guy for everything and David Montgomery plays when we need him to rest a little bit, which is exactly what Tyler Algier was. So like, either, either way people have it, those should be the two top two guys for me.

[A]

And also still just 23 years old, like we potentially haven't even seen the best years from either of these running backs. So guys who are drafted early, guys who are workhorse running backs on good offenses in the prime of their career, I think this is pretty standard what you'll see at the top of most drafts this year. So Back to you, Coop. 103. Who are you taking?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, people might, might frown upon this and they might worry, but they're very worried about this player this year and that turned out to be wrong and it turned out to be a mistake and every other player on his team got hurt and he stayed healthy. So I'm just going to take Christian McCaffrey here. On that list of guys that I mentioned with, you know, the five, only five guys averaging over 100 yards from scrimmage per game as running backs, Bijan and Christian McCaffrey are the only guys averaging 110 or more. And Christian McCaffrey has averaged 115 yards for scrimmage for his entire career. He's just absolutely incredible. He's the engine of that team. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. But my philosophy has always been this, if a guy is currently healthy, then I'm not going to try and play doctor Fortune Teller and predict that he's going to get hurt, right? And if a guy is banged up already, then I might fade that player. But I'm going to be drafting guys and then just hoping they don't get hurt all year. I might as well draft the good players and hope they don't get hurt instead of taking somebody who's worse and then hoping that guy gets hurt. So I'm just going to take Christian McCaffrey.

[A]

So I know there's going to be a lot of talk about Christian McCaffrey this offseason because of the touch total that he had this year. He's playing next year at his age 30 season. And then of course we've got the electric substation next to the practice field that of course just you know, wearing down everybody's tendons and ligaments there. This one does surprise me a little bit because, you know, just the, the age and maybe it's just because like I've already flipped the page and I'm into Dynasty brain now and I see a 30 year old running back and I just like gag at the thought of a 30 year old running back. But I, I think you're right. Like if Christian McCaffrey, if he was guaranteed healthy for the entire season, I think you could make an argument to take him ahead of Bijan and Gibbs. I think the only concern here is just the age, the injury, wear and tear from this very volume heavy 2025 season.

[B]

And when you look at hall of Fame caliber players, that's what separates them from the average very good players, right? Like you go and look at the careers of guys like Jerry Rice and Randy Moss and, and Derrick Henry and these guys and Emmett Smith, the difference in a lot of times, like when you look at the peak seasons for a lot of these guys, barring like Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson, the peak seasons aren't that much different. For a lot of these players, it's the fact that guys like Marvin Harrison Jr. Can go out and have. Sorry, Marvin Harrison senior can go out and have his best season of his career at 32 years old. Like these guys. When you believe a guy to be a Hall of Fame caliber player, you think that he can keep it up longer than the average player, right? So for me, I look at a guy like McCaffrey and he's playing so well right now. Maybe he does fall off the cliff next year.

[A]

We.

[B]

Or maybe he's just the best player in all of fantasy football. And now I've given myself two shots at it because, you know, Bijan and cms.

[A]

So back over to me and this was my wide receiver one when we were doing this exercise this time last year and then the team went out and drafted Terence Ferguson and they signed devonte Adams and I just kept lowering Puka Nukua in my rankings. I'm not making that mistake this year. This guy on a per, per game basis was the top scoring fantasy wide receiver this year. And you know, with Pukinakua, just the way that he plays with this kind of reckless, abandoned, just seeking content contact in the open field, he's going to get banged up every now and then. But he is such a good football player. Whether devonte Adams is there or not, I don't really have a concern. I think devonte Adams there just pulls some of the man coverage away, allows him to eat in space a little bit more. When devonte Adams isn't there, he just gets more volume to offset the dips in efficiency. So I'm at the point right now, Pukinakua, I'm etching it in stone right now on Wednesday, January 21 and I am not going to move. Puka Kua is my wide receiver one going into the 2026 season.

[B]

What if Matthew Stafford retires?

[A]

Okay, then we could have.

[B]

Then we move over. Exactly. That's how they get. But, but you're right. I mean I think that the way Stafford's played this year, he'd be crazy to walk off that way. Like even if he wins the whole thing, wins the mvp, I think like to leave that on the table when you could now take your legacy, which is this is a guy that already has like 60,000 all time passing yards. Like he's already got as many passing yards as guys like Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers who are top 10. Like he's. He could take this legacy from one of the greats to one of the goats by continuing to play if that's the case. So I don't think he's going anywhere. And sure enough, part of this exercise was a little gamesmanship there because I do like three wide receivers as much. So maybe I would have taken Puknaku there, but I'm willing to let you take the first one and I'll just take one of the other ones. I think I'm just going to go with the, in my opinion, the again, the safest possible guy where with my early picks I want the most certainty possible. I want the highest floor and the highest ceiling. And to me that's Jamar Chase. It's just a guy who's been the best of the league. He's at the age apex. His quarterback is incredible. And I'm hoping this off season that the Bengals finally sit back and say maybe we do need an offensive line, right? Like they know exactly how they've been getting beat. Their offensive line is bad, right? They get beat on defense by the tight end because they let Jesse Bates walk. Maybe it's time to invest in safety. Like they know what the problem is or at least they should and hopefully they're going to fix it this year. So Jamar Chase for me, easy one there. Wouldn't fault anyone for taking Puka Nakua. Wouldn't fault anyone for taking maybe a couple other guys.

[A]

Now it's funny you say that because I have three wide receivers in a tier as well and I kind of was thinking through the same thing and I said, hey, if I start this waterfall then Coop's going to get the other one and then I'll get the third. So I get two of the three guys in this tier and I'd be shocked if the guy on your mind isn't who I'm taking right here. Jackson, Smith, Najigba. Huge breakout season this year. It's wild when you look at the volume from the Seattle offense. Like they do not throw the ball. They are one of the least pass heavy offenses in the NFL. But the targets are just funneled so heavily to Jackson, Smith Najigba. He's so official with the opportunities that come his way. I mean if we just see next year, if this defense takes a slight step backwards and they just get pushed into some game scripts where they're forced to throw the ball a little bit. I feel like we didn't even see the ceiling for Pukinaku or for for Jackson Smith Najigba this year he's only going to get better. This is a guy still reaching the prime of his career. So, yeah, I look at Puka, Nukua, Jamar, Chase, jsn, these guys are just splitting hairs in my rankings right now. So if I'm able to get Puka and JSN in this draft, I feel pretty good about that.

[B]

Yeah. And there are people that worry about Clint Kubiak potentially getting hired away, but not every offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator loss is created equally, right? Like losing the coordinator is a problem regardless, you know. But there's a big difference between the coordinator being fired because he did a terrible job and somebody else coming in and completely shuffling things up and changing what they do versus a coordinator getting hired away because he was so good at his job that. That another team wants to make him the head coach. Because a lot of times you like what was being done and you just try to continue that and replicate it. Like the Buccaneers, right when Liam Cohen got taken away, like, they didn't turn around and say, oh, well, let's just do something totally different and stop throwing it to, you know, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. I know they got banged up, but that was still the plan. So I don't think the plan is going to change. I think whoever comes in is going to end up doing that. And what they. In my opinion, and this might sound crazy to people, people, but if Clint Kubiak were to get hired away, the Seahawks should absolutely interview Bobby Slowik, who runs the same scheme and did it for the Texans, got fired from the Texans, but after a successful year, and it turns out after the last two years, maybe they should have kept him and he was just working under Mike McDaniel, who runs a very similar scheme with the fullback and the block tight ends. Like, that's what I would do. If you like what's going on, bring in somebody that knows how to do that and that would be the guy that I bring in to potentially do that, replace him. So I love the JSN pick. He would have been my pick there, too.

[A]

And, you know, I. One of my main reasons I was very in on JSN going into this 2025 season, it was because of Clint Kubiak and the history that we've seen with his wide receiver ones there, and that certainly helped elevate JSN to a new level. Justin Jefferson had his first big breakout season under the tutelage of Clint Kubiak. 108 receptions, 16, 16 yards. Clint Kubiak left after that season. You know what he did the next year? He got even better. 128 receptions, 1809 yards. So it doesn't. Like, just because Clint Kubiak's leaving doesn't mean that we're looking at regression here. Like, we saw Justin Jefferson break out with Clint Kubiak and then have an even better year the next season without Kubiak. So I'm just of the belief that JSN is a dog. He's going to get his. And like I said, if we just see some slightly better game scripts, we can see an even higher ceiling from JSN than we saw in 2025. Back over to you, Coop. Who's the next player that you're picking here?

[B]

Yeah, and I'm going to go with again, the more conservative pick. There are two running backs that I really like in this spot, but I'm going to take CD Lamb. I just think that CD Lamb is a alpha stud wide receiver. He's the kind of guy that, that in my opinion, transcends what the other assets are on the team. And he's the one that gets to play slot flanker, right? He's the one that gets to move into the slot for three wide receiver sets and stay out there for two wide receiver sets the way that Chris Godwin did when he was the wide receiver 2 overall alongside Mike Evans, the way that Jamar Chase does with T. Higgins playing split end. So whether or not George Pickens is back, I think he will be back. I think it's just like Puka Nakua and Devonte Adams, right? CD Lamb now is in a much better spot to do the things he does if other teams have to account for a big body on the outside. So I have no problem taking CD Lamb tied to Dak Prescott in a scheme where they're probably gonna have to keep throwing and doing their thing.

[A]

And that would have been next up for me and CD Lamb. I think a lot of people are going to look at this year and see the fall off in production a little bit. He was dealing with the injury and of course that caused him to miss some time. But even when he came back from that injury, he was not 100% for the next six weeks or so. Like, you could see that he was just struggling to get in and out of his breaks. That's why we saw George Pickens, like outscoring CD Lamb for this first month upon his return. And there was so much discussion about like, oh, George Pickens is the new wide receiver one right now. And lost in all of that was the context that CD Lamb was still battling through an ankle injury. He is such a twitched up route runner that when he's dealing with a bad ankle, he just doesn't have that same ability to get in and out of his break. So we saw late in the year him kind of revert back to the CD Lamb of old. So I think this is just a safe, good pick here. And if you didn't make this, that was going to be my next choice.

[B]

Right? And that's the thing. I mean, if this holds and I wouldn't see why it wouldn't hold and he could even go later in drafts, like you could be getting CD Lamb close to the swing if this holds. Because there's a number of other names that I considered myself and I wouldn't bat an eye if other people take them. That's just how it goes from year in, year out. And it's one of those things where we named six guys we both love that are both rock solid, which means he's a back half first round pick, which I'll take that all day long.

[A]

So this next pick that I'm making, this might be the spiciest pick of this draft that we're doing right here. But Omarion Hampton, we're looking at a guy that has the workhorse profile that we love, came into the league, you know, 225/pounds. But for me, there's two things that get me especially excited. One, they're going to have both of their tackles back next year. Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt should be back. We just saw that this was a terrible offensive line without those bookend tackles. And two is the news that we just got about Mike McDaniel signing with them. We know Mike McDaniel likes to lean heavily on one running back. He has created run schemes to get guys out and start space where they can rip off chunk plays. So me just trying to envision Omari Hampton in the Devon Hn role on a better offense behind a better offensive line. This might be a little bit spicy taking him this early, but I actually have him in my rankings coupe and I know you'll disagree with this, but I've got him ahead of CMC. I've got him as my RB3 in 2026 rankings right now.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think that's necessarily crazy. And again, when it comes to the first round and where these guys are ranked, that's something you're going to have to do. Like if you want that player, that's what you're going to have to do. Because the problem you run into, of course is that there's no guarantee he's going to be there in the second round. You know what I mean? Like, with a guy like that, he could go as. As high as. Like you said, top five, top six. And the scheme is great. The offensive line is great. The quarterback's great. We love the whole coaching staff now. So, yeah, it's wheels up and I don't really see them splitting it in a meaningful way. So I don't mind that pick at all. There's a few guys that I'd be willing to take in that range again. It's like you got to decide between shooting for upside or going for the safe play. So I guess to balance this out, I will take another safe pick here because a Merritt Hampton, that's. That's real spicy. You're coming in with the, the. The Reapers, the Carolina Reapers and the Scorpions. And I'm just going to be the glass of milk here. That takes Jonathan Taylor.

[A]

Taylor.

[B]

And with, with Jonathan Taylor, I mean, I think Daniel Jones at least is the answer for the time being. I love Quentin Nelson. I love the offensive line. I think we'll have to see what they do with the wide receivers. I think they're going to have at least one of Michael Pittman or Alec Pierce back. I mean, I can't see a world where they just release Pittman and then let Pierce walk. So at least I think one of those, especially after trading out of that Mitchell, at least one of those guys is going to be back along with Tyler Ward and Josh Downs. So I think this is going to be a good offense again. And when you go back to that list that I had mentioned earlier of, you know, players that have averaged over 100 yards from scrimmage for their career, number one is Christian McCaffrey, 115 yards from scrimmage. Number two, B, John Robinson. Number three, Jonathan Taylor, averaging almost 108 yards from scrimmage. It's easy to forget that before the quarterback got hurt and the wheels fell off, this guy was in the MVP conversation was absolutely incredible. He's a great player probably. I mean, I don't know about you, but I have him ranked very high in standard, high in half PPR and maybe a little bit lower in full ppr just because he hasn't really been a guy that, you know, you could pencil in for like 70 targets. But he, he has those chops. It's just they don't always use him like that.

[A]

And we did see that usage early last season with Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones was rushing Quite a lot in the first few weeks. And then I forget what it was before the knee injury there was a minor injury. I think it was an ankle or something like that. And we saw Daniel Jones start rushing less and when he started rushing less, he started checking down to Jonathan Taylor more. There was a little period where Jeff Bell and I were talking about it on our show where you're saying like Jonathan Taylor is quietly getting like Christian McCaffrey usage here. Like he's getting the, the rushing and the receiving. It only lasted for about three or four weeks, but yeah, just one of the most talented players out there. I think that is a sharp pick there. Back over to me, I don't know if this is a spicy pick or where he's going to fall in adp, but Drake London, we saw him putting it together last year, but I think when you look at his season as a whole, it looks a little bit disappointing. But he picked up that shoulder injury in week one and then he picked up the PCL sprain late in the season. But if you look in between those injuries, he was just a lock for 100 yards and a touchdown almost every single week. Now we've got Kevin Spansky coming down there to Atlanta. I don't know, have you done the Falcons yet as one of your team previews? Coop?

[B]

I'm actually still going through some dynasty stuff, so I haven't gone through any of those just yet. That starts next week for me, so I'm going to be digging into all that.

[A]

My expectation is that Kirk Cousins is going to be the starter there. We look at this late season ACL injury for Michael Penix, he's not going to be ready for training camp. And my guess is that having the connection with Stefanski and Kirk Cousins, somebody who already knows the offense comes from that tree, he'll be able to get up to speed quickly. And we have seen that Kirk Cousins, he really likes to hyper focus on his wide receiver one which is Drake London. So this is a guy still, you know, reaching that age. Apex, Apex hasn't quite gotten there yet, but drafted extremely young going into his age 25 season. A guy that we know is consistently pulling a 30 plus percent target share every single year. And I think his whole season is kind of clouded by the injuries that he had to deal with. But when healthy, I am just of the belief that Drake London is one of the best wide receivers in football.

[B]

Yeah. And this is why I was hoping that you would not give me the courtesy of going first because I wanted to go Second, I feel like every one of my tiers ends on a, on an, on an even number. In this case, in this case, that you did not take the last player from my tier. But I was hoping that you would take Amon Ross St. Brown so that I could take Drake London because Drake London to me is much more fun play. Like, if you're talking about the range of outcomes. Right. The floor for Alma Ross St. Brown is better, but I think the ceiling is higher for Drake London and a lot of times in fantasy football, ceiling is what matters now. Drake 1. I mean Alma Ross St. Brown in any given year can come out and be the wide receiver one. Overall, we know he's absolutely capable of that. I just think that the Lions at this stage, even with the down year this year, I think they're one of those teams that when they take care of business, they take care of business easily. And they're not quite the team with their back against the ropes anymore where they have to play crazy huck and chuck it football. I think Amar Rossi Brown in any given year in any sort of PPR format is going to be a rock solid, an easy pick. He should be a first round pick. But I just, I love the upside of London. So I was hoping you would take Almond Raw and I could take London, but instead I will take Amara St. Brown because we got to give people an honest look, especially for your article. And I think it would be a disservice for Amara State Brown not to go somewhere in the, in the top 10 or at least top 12.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. And I mean that's just a rock solid pick. And you and I had both talked about Amon Ra earlier in his career that, you know, it felt like maybe that production was a little bit fluky in his rookie season where it just came late in the year when everybody was injured and these negative game scripts. But it hasn't mattered since then. Like regardless of the game script, he has established himself as that focal point of the Lions offense. Do you have any concerns maybe with Drew Petzig who was one of the reasons that I talked about wanting to reach for Jameer Gibbs with that really early pick? Do you think that maybe with Petsig coming in there, they do take the air out of the ball a little bit? Or do you think this is still kind of Dan Campbell's team? Because we did see that like when Dan Campbell took over play calling duties in the midway point of the season, they did up their pass rate. I think a lot of people look at Dan Campbell and hear the things that he says and think that he is kind of this run first coach when the reality is he wants to air it out and he wants to stress defenses vertically. I expect them to still kind of stick with that same sort of game plan. Even with Pets there.

[B]

I think they're going to run in a ton with Petsing, but also with Petsing, everyone knows that Kyler Murray scrambles around a ton, but what they don't realize is that when he's getting the ball out, he was getting the ball out pretty much as fast as any other quarterback in the league. I mean like guys like TUA get it out very quick. And same with you know, some of the older guys, like obviously Flacco and Philip Rivers. But Kyler Murray, in terms of plays that last under two seconds before he gets the ball out or two and a half seconds for per fantasy point status suite like he has been over the last few years a top three or four guy in that. And a lot of that is due to Trey McBride. But you know, Almond Rossane Brown is going to be that type of guy for him. I think this is good news for Alma Ross St. Brown and Sam Laporta. Maybe not so much for Jameson Williams, but I think it's going to continue to be a highly consolidated offense just like it was once Marv went down. It was basically just the running game, Michael Wilson, Trey McBride and like I think you're going to see something very similar here. So I'm not super worried about this guy not getting to 125, 130 or 140 targets. You know what I mean? I, I can't see a world where you have Amara St. Brown, a healthy Amara St. Brown and he doesn't get 120 targets. It just doesn't, it doesn't seem like an efficient way to run the team.

[A]

And that's a really good call out about Kyler Murray getting the ball out of his hand quickly. That is news to me and that's a shocking one. Like I would not have expected that.

[B]

But fantasy overall, that's the thing. His overall average ends up being middle of the pack. Right.

[A]

Because of the eight second plays. Right?

[B]

Exactly. He was like one or the other. But when you go and look like he was like he was top three in just total number of quick plays because it was one or the other. Right.

[A]

Because he is a first read quarterback. Like if his first read isn't there, if his first read is open, he's going to rip it to him right away. And if not he's going to scramble around, run around like a, like a kid with his hair on fire. And that's just how Kyler Murray plays football.

[B]

So golf isn't going to be running around. I think it's going to be a lot of first read and, and Amara St. Brown, again, a player that I was historically notorious, I mean like notoriously very wrong on early in his career where I was like, I think this guy's going to age into a Tyler Boyd. They have, they, when they drafted him, they had just let Kenny Golladay and Marvin Jones leave. I was like, this team's going to go out and they're going to bring in weapons and that's going to potentially make Amon Ross St. Brown just kind of a part time slot guy. And it turns out they went out and they drafted a wide receiver in the first round. They drafted a running back in the second round. Sorry, running back in the first round as well. They drafted a tight end in the second round. They've now drafted another wide receiver in the third round. And this guy is still unfazed by all that. So just turns out that every team in the league passed on this guy four times and they were all wrong.

[A]

Going completely off on a tangent here, but did you see that clip going around recently? Somebody shared Jared Goff's highlights from Cal where he was just like a very fast, thin, nimble quarterback with like all of this rushing upside. And somebody said like what happened to Jared Goff? That he just decided to put on £20 and stop running. And then somebody shared the video of Richard Sherman just baptizing him as a rookie.

[B]

I remember that. I've never seen the cow clip, but I remember him getting crushed by Richard Sherman.

[A]

And they said it was like after this play, Jared Goff just decided, I'm not doing that anymore. I am no longer going in the open field, put on like £20 and just completely changed his game into becoming a pocket passer.

[B]

We've seen. Well, that's the thing. I've seen plenty of guys that did that in college come to the NFL and not be able to, to do it. Like how many times does Zach Wilson take like a 20 yard sack? Because he just, you know, he didn't realize how much faster these guys are going to be. Cam Ward also struggled with that where like in college he would just scramble around and make things happen. And you don't realize that everybody out there on the defense is running a 4. 4. You know what I mean? Like you can't, like you're getting chased.

[A]

Down by a D lineman when you could beat a safety in college.

[B]

Exactly. So, yeah, it's totally different game. I'm not surprised by golf. And you know what? That's good for the. For everybody else because a lot of the mobile quarterbacks can kind of leech some of the production. Right. Whereas golf is just a distributor, you know, so it's good for those guys.

[A]

Absolutely. Well, let me round out the first round here. I'm gonna go with James Cook coming off of a huge breakout season. We know he is under contract with the Buffalo Bills. So I had some concerns coming into this season just because he had missed so much of training camp that I was concerned he wouldn't be calloused up and conditioned and ready to go and all those sorts of things, but it didn't matter. And I think other people had those concerns as well because he was regularly falling into round four of fantasy drafts. But I don't expect people to make that same mistake again this year. I think this is probably where he will settle in. This is a guy who catches passes, scores touchdowns, breakaway runs, everything we want to see from a fantasy running back. To me, like a very similar profile to Jameer Gibbs, you're just getting him for a much cheaper cost. Coop, do you think this is kind of fair where James Cook should land kind of at this. This one, two turn going in 20, 26 drafts?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I. I was somebody who was kind of incorrectly off on James Cook this year, because you go through and you look at the previous year, and he was giving up pass plays to Ty Johnson, he was giving up run plays to Ray Davis, especially in garbage time, whereas a lot of guys weren't doing that. But when you just have an offense this good and guys this good, I mean, what are you going to do? You know what I mean? He's just a. He's that good. And the offense is good enough to generate. So I have no problem with that pick because I was wrong about him this year, and I'm definitely not going to make that mistake again. So I'm with you.

[A]

All right, on to round two. Who is your pick here, Coop?

[B]

Yeah, and this is where you're kind of. We're, like, going through and looking at it. You're going to have to pick somebody that has some kind of warts here, right? To like, there's a. There's guys that are not even the top wide receiver on their team. There's a number of guys that. Where the offense is changing and there's Guys that have quarterback issues. There's guys coming off injuries, I think guys without coaches.

[A]

Like, we're still looking at like almost a dozen teams out there that don't even have a coach at the moment.

[B]

And I'm taking one of those guys. Yeah, that's what I'm figured that's what you want to say the name for me.

[A]

You can. Well, I don't want to blow it in case it's the wrong guy because.

[B]

I'm looking at two guys without coaching. Okay, well, I'm going to take Devon hn. I'm going to take Devon H. And just because I'm betting that whoever shows up is going to pick the right thing, right? Like use the right guy. It's like you walk into the Batcave and on the wall is all these. These things, right? Like, are you going to jump in the Batmobile or are you going to grab some stupid, like, boomerang, you know what I mean? Like, I think whoever shows up is going to realize that Devon A. Chain is the Batmobile. This guy is an absolute monster. Of the players that don't have 100 yards per game from scrimmage, 100 yards from scrimmage per game in their career, a chance at 98 and a half. He's had a bunch of injuries that lower that he probably would be there if it was all full games. But this guy, he's just a. He's a star and he's the closest thing we have to Jameer Gibbs. Explosive, awesome player. And I just, I. The, the beautiful thing with him is that he plays, or at least did, and we got to hope that continues. He plays a massive number of wide receiver snaps. So he is game script independent more than a lot of other guys. When they're winning, he runs the ball. When they're losing, he basically just goes and plays. Wide receiver, catches ball, a bunch of passes so much like Bijan Robinson used in the same way. I'm just going to take hn.

[A]

Yeah. I've got no concerns with that pick at all. I know there is some fear about what he could look like without Mike McDaniel there, but I think that you're just spot on that he's just a fantastic running back and it would be foolish for a coach to go in there and be like, you know, we got to get some work going to Ollie Gordon and Jalen Wright.

[B]

I'm very interested in your next pick, but yeah, we don't need any of those guys. Very interested in your next pick. I think this next pick is One where you're gonna, you, you have to make a big decision.

[A]

Yeah, I, I'm making a big decision here. And it's kind of funny the way that each of our teams are taking shape where like I am very clearly like the dynasty brain rot team and you're taking all of like the safe players and, and I'm going with another dynasty brain rot pick here, Ashton Ginty. This guy like just finished outside of top 12 running back consideration last year. In a season where people like, I don't want to say unanimous because you know, the, the people that are plugged in like us, we know that he had a good year, but so many people, if you ask him, they'll just say that Ashton Jinsey was a bust as a rookie, that he didn't do what he was supposed to. And he was in one of the worst offensive situations imaginable, just by far the worst offensive line quarterback play was so inconsistent, there was no threat of a passing game. But he still did all of the things that we liked about him at Boise State. He was breaking tackles, he was generating yards after contact. But what I really liked is how they unlocked him later in the season where he wasn't just a checkdown receiver, he was running big boy routes deep downfield and catching the ball deep downfield. So I look at the Raiders right now and it is so hard to guess what they are going to look like three months from now, but they hold the number one overall pick. They have over a hundred million dollars to spend in free agency. We don't know who their coach is right now. There are so many unanswered questions here. But when I look at a team that could bring in a good coach that has the draft capital and the salary cap to just completely flip their roster around. I'm not saying that the Raiders are going to be super bowl contenders, but I do think that Ashton Ginty is going to be in a much better situation in 2026 than he was in 2025.

[B]

Fully agree. And I'll tell you, there's a example out there because Genty to me was a good player in a bad situation. He was making a lot of nice plays. He obviously made some mistakes, but that's what rookies do. But I always encourage people to go and look at Todd Gurley stats in 2016, right, where he had 278 carries for only 885 yards. And people were very disappointed with that year. Only 1200 yards from scrimmage, right. And then the team went out with McVay and made a lot of big moves, right? Brought in some wide receivers. They brought in Andrew Whitworth. So he had 278 carries for 885 yards. The very next year, he had 279 carries. One more carry for 1305 yards. He went from 1200 yards to 2000 yards from scrimmage. Did he. I got to ask you, Kluge, do you think he materially became a better player from year two to year three, or do you think additions like Andrew Whitworth, an absolute legend, and all these other guys might have had a part to do with that?

[A]

I think that it's something to do with it. Also, receiving output doubled from 327 yards to 788 yards. So, yeah, this is just like what happens. We see running backs come into the league and just get better for their first few years.

[B]

Right? Exactly. So for me, Genti, no problem with that pick. And I've been kind of checking out. Like, call me crazy, but I did jump into a way too early best ball draft on ffpc and I saw Genty go pick nine in the slow draft I'm doing. And then I, I was like, that's kind of crazy. I pulled up the adp. If you were to take out. So it's tight end premium, right? So if you were to take out McBride and Bowers, who obviously are going to go much higher, there he is, a top 12 pick over there based on ADP. And. And that's where the sharp players play. The cheapest tournament open right now is $125. You and I still have a credit to one of those that we got to use over there. I got the, I got that in our back pocket. So there you go. Yeah, we'll jump in one of those this offseason. I'm thinking maybe we'll do one right after the NFL draft. You know what I mean? We'll jump in and get going.

[A]

That's the fun time. Because then free agency, most of it has passed and then we can start kind of like looking like right now there is so much guessing and like, as much as I love to say, but like, who knows? Like, maybe the Raiders just use their $100 million and they give 80 million of it to Wandale Robinson and like, it's the Raiders, you know, we, we, we hope they'll do the right thing, but who really knows?

[B]

Yeah, there's so much. That's the thing is there's so much guessing. But then I was like, you know what I'm doing? All this research. I'm looking at the free agent stuff like we have. We're doing this kind of stuff right now, this kind of show. Why wouldn't we have just as good of a shot as anybody else at these things? Right. So I'm doing one now that's probably going to be the only one I do until like the big board and some of that stuff opens. But I just wanted to get in and get a lay of the land and see what people are doing and see the kind of crazy stuff. And I was shocked.

[A]

We are putting the work in. I'm going to do a draft right when we finish up this show. I've got a pretty good read on what's happening.

[B]

Yeah, they got the 32nd clock, they got the six hour clock. You can do whatever. I jumped to the six hour one because I, I want it to go through when I'm doing my articles and stuff, which I draft some of the worst teams when I do slow drafts while I do series like that. Because I'll be writing about a player and I'll just literally open a tab and be like when am I on the clock? I'm gonna reach four rounds on this guy, you know.

[A]

But I just wrote about Alec Pierce being a great free agent signing. So now I've got to take him in round three.

[B]

Gotta take him, dude. And I think he's will be, you know, so. Yeah, I'm with you on that. I love the, the, the Genti pick there. Like you got to give yourself a shot at upside in this range and everybody's got their own problems so you, you gotta, you gotta split it up and, and decide what kind of risk you want to take here. So for me I'm gonna take a risk that I oftentimes don't like taking, especially this time of year year. But I'm gonna bet that Malik Neighbors comes back healthy. That's what I'm gonna do.

[A]

I was very anxious. I almost took him over. Gen Z. Yeah.

[B]

This whole idea of targets are earned, like that particular phrase can be debated up and down and across the the world. But for top wide receivers, I do believe it's true. I do believe that it starts with those guys and then it trickles down to the next guys like Wando Robinson with. This guy went out and had 140 targets or whatever. Didn't matter because this guy was getting 170, 180. I do believe in Jackson Dart, especially now that he had a long conversation with Harbaugh and Harbaugh decided to Jump on board, like put a lot, put his career in the hands of this guy and league neighbors is just so special that and he did get hurt fairly early. That's the other part of it. He got hurt fairly early. So this is one where it could go either way as the year progresses. If he's ahead of schedule and everything's looking good, he could go earlier in the rankings. For me, if there's any sort of setback and he's not actually healthy, then we got to pull back, you know what I mean? But for the time being, I'm looking around and I'm saying to myself, and this is a strategy that I've used for years, which I say, who could be the number one flex player in the league, right? Who could score me 400 PPR points? Because that's what you're getting out of number one flex player. I make that list of guys and then once that list is exhausted, I will, I will consider taking a tight end, I'll consider taking a quarterback because both those guys have positional scarcity that factors in quarterbacks. A lot of guys can score a lot of points with tight end. The best all time tight end season ever is 330 points. Trey McBride just had a top five all time season with like 315 or whatever ended up being that. That's still positional scarcity. Doesn't make up for 85 raw fantasy points. Kluge. Right. So for me, Malik Neighbors, there's a world where he is the number one player in all of fantasy football. He needs to be selected somewhere within the first two rounds.

[A]

I do have to shout out football guys, being a good company man, like I am value based drafting, of course like Trey McBride is going to have more value, but it doesn't make him the number one overall pick. So what we do at football guys, our rankings here are fully customizable. So what you can do is you go on, you put in your roster settings, your scoring settings and we will tell you exactly where he falls in in projections. Some leagues he might be a top three pick, some leagues he might fall into round four. It is very, very league dependent. So yeah, I mean you're, you're right here that just like he's not going to be the number one flex player, but the positional scarcity does give him a little bit more value in FFPC.

[B]

He needs to be picked at like 6 overall, right? In premium he's we pick like 6 in something like this though. And here's the thing. In any given year that List of people that you think could score 400 PPR points in any given year. That list could be 30 players long. It could be 10. Like, there were years where I looked at it and I was like, you know what? I'm just. I think Travis Kelce in the second round, mid, early second round. I think that is a great pick. You know, even the back end of the first round, I look at it and I'm like, you know what? There's just not enough of those guys right now. But right now when I go through. And again, last year, that list for me was two full rounds. I'm not sure it is this year. So we'll have to see where those guys end up going. But right now there's still few of those guys out there.

[A]

So back over to me. And the whole time you were talking, I was trying to decide who I wanted to pick next. And I don't know.

[B]

I'm already going off. I'm already not going directly off my rankings. During the show, I listed my 24.

[A]

In order and I said, this is going to be super easy. We're just gonna be able to talk. I'm just gonna work my way down the list. But of course, that's just not how it goes. And this is the same way in drafts too. Like based on other players going, you know, it changes your strategy a little bit. I am going to go with Chase Brown here though. And maybe this is me just being an idiot going back to the. Well, that was dry last year. But you know, I think so many people, I talk about early season biases all the time, Coop. This is something like people early in the year are just like so plugged in. They're so excited about football. They are taking in every bit of information for the first two, three weeks. Start tailing off a little around week four and five. Week six, they're just kind of setting waivers and going through the motions. And I don't think people realize that. Chase Brown over the second half of the season, when Joe Burrow returned and was healthy, Chase Brown just was the Chase Brown that we saw the previous year, giving us top five production almost every single week. He is a workhorse running back, catches passes, scores touchdowns, rips off chunks, plays all the things that I've said about all of the running backs that I have drafted so far. I think this is going to be one of my favorite post types sleepers. And there are concerns here, you know, the size, the durability, the draft capital, all of those things. But I have seen nobody Come in and really compete with Chase Brown outside of Samaj p Ryan coming in as just a battering ram in the blocking game. So, you know, they. They could change things up a little bit. They might go and try to find somebody else in free agency. We've heard the offensive coordinator, head coach, everybody in Cincinnati was just gushing about Chase Brown this offseason. And when he was healthy, he was still the same motor that powered this offense that he was his at the end of his rookie season. So might be a little bit of a reach here. And things could certainly change during free agency in the draft. But assuming they go into 2026 with Chase Brown, Samajp Ryan and Taj Brooks like they did last year, this is where I'm comfortable drafting Chase Brown.

[B]

Right. And to your point on that, like, there were a lot of people the year before that did the same thing with DeAndre Swift, where he started off so bad that people just got it in their minds, oh, this guy sucks. But by the end of the year, he actually had a great year. And then, you know, this year he was great. And I think Chase Brown is probably a great example of a guy that could be that. This year where he went out, you know, obviously struggled early, but finished so strong, 100 yards of scrimmage virtually every game. So hard to. Really hard to argue against that one. He actually would have been my next pick as well. Now a little bit sharper.

[A]

And it goes both ways, too. Like, I don't want to dog on anybody, but, like, Javante Williams, I've heard a lot of people, like, a lot of buzz about Javante Williams going into 2026 where he really kind of fell off on the second half of the year. And so many people when they were plugged in and he was just giving you weekly touchdowns and putting up, you know, 15, 20 points every single week. I think a lot of people also don't see the reverse here, that these guys that sometimes get out to really hot starts and kind of cool down as the season progresses, they're still reaching aggressively for those guys the next year. So Javante Williams, you know, a free agent, we don't know where he's going to be, but just, you know, it goes both ways. Either guys getting off to hot starts or cold starts, people really hold on to that. And of course, we could look back two years ago, like, Isaiah likely had no business being drafted in 2026 drafts, but because he did it in an island game in week one of 2024, everybody remembers it.

[B]

People got so Mad when I put up Isaiah Likely's stats before the season right next to Austin Hooper and Noah Graves, and I was like.

[A]

I was like, Drew Sample, I was like, he's the.

[B]

He's the best backup tight end, but like, only by a little. You know, like, it's.

[A]

People are.

[B]

So. I mean, I definitely was pushing the buttons with that, but I mean, you just got to be careful with that kind of stuff. And to your point, like, there are a number of players that started really hot that ended up being cold towards the end that I'm seeing still being ranked really high. And there's for good reason, too. Like, they could be great, but like a guy like Roma Dunze, guys like Roman Dunes and Amica Buka, like, those guys started off scalding hot. And then conditions kind of changed a little bit, and it didn't quite end up that way. So you got to be real careful with the direction you go in. And again, like, with. With this draft so far, like, I know where you're going, you're taking some risks, and I know which guys are going. Like, that's why I had to take Malik Neighbors there, because I knew.

[A]

You knew I was going to.

[B]

Yeah. You. I always think about the way you play from time to time because you do not care about down weeks as long as the high. The. The big weeks are big enough. Right. And we have disagreed on that on at times. And you've been right with a lot of guys. I've been right with some. But like, I always think about George Kittle in that way where it's like, you. That was a player that you've always been right about. And I've. I was at times hesitant, but like, there are so many weeks that are meaningless for tight ends across the board. You might as well just take the big ones, you know. So with this, that's why I knew, like, guys like neighbors, like, you'd have no problem going there for me here. I am going to play it kind of conservative here, but I really don't see a world where Nico Collins isn't very good. Again, I think that this team, they. They are. They do have to make some changes. And the. There's some stigma because C.J. stroud ended the season so poorly. But I think people underestimate how good the Patriots defense is. The fact that Nico Collins wasn't out there, the fact that Dalton Schultz hurt his calf the middle of the game. The Patriots defense, they got back. They played a bunch of games this year without Christian Gonzalez, without Milton Williams, without Robert Spillane, like you name it. And then they all came back at the perfect time just to be a real problem for, for C.J. stroud and that crew. I think Stroud's going to be fine. I think Nico Collins is great. I think he is may. I'm maybe getting ahead of myself a little bit, but he's kind of like a Mike Evans type guy now where I feel like I can count on him for 1,000 yards and a handful and five plus touchdowns just moving forward and he's still smacking the age apex for wide receivers. I, as much as I love Jaden Higgins and those guys, I don't think that's going to displace what's going on with this guy. So I'm just going to take him here as a, as a safer pick after taking neighbors with the last one.

[A]

You know you mentioned CJ Stroud, so I just want to say I was on the Trade Addicts podcast last night and we were talking through some, some dynasty theory and whatnot and I have been in the CJ Stroud is overrated camp since the end of his rookie season. Coop, I'm sure you remember in like January, February, March following that rookie season, he was the QB one in consensus dynasty rankings. And I was just saying like sell, sell, sell. Now I think there's actually a little bit of a buy window here with CJ Stroud because I don't think he's nearly as bad as he looked in that game against.

[B]

He said the same same thing in my write up recently. I was like, not a guy I've been on, but when the price gets that low, you know what I mean? Like I go in there, dude, and I, I grab it. It's like when I'm in sometimes I'm at the supermarket and I'm looking at the prices of like breads and stuff and I'm like, I'm like, hey, sure I don't love pumpernickel, but it's a dollar. I'm, I'll figure out, I'll figure out what to do now. And that's it.

[A]

Like he's on sale right now. He's still at the end of the day, like, awful game. We can't pretend like there was anything good to take away from that game. But we're still looking at a guy who was drafted second overall, 25 years old, like has had a QB one season under his belt. I'm not saying to go move mountains and get C.J. stroud, but when we get this far where it's just like, you know, he is like the meme on Twitter. Like everybody has just written this guy off for dead. Go float some offers out there and see if you can get CJ Stroud for cheap because this is probably the only time you're going to be able to.

[B]

Right? He was. I mean here's the thing. I think the Texans screwed up. I think Bob, I had mentioned his name already once on the show, but Bobby Slowik in that offense, he was super efficient as a rookie and he was great and he had protection with the fullback and everything was working great in his favor. High EPA guy just like Brock Purdy, just like Sam Darnold under guys in similar scheme. And then once they brought in the three wide receivers and they tried to change everything slow it couldn't do it and they screwed everything up. And since then they haven't been the same team. I think that they're going to to bounce. I think this guy in Dynasty is going to bounce back. Will he do it this year? I don't know. But I think Nico Collins regardless has been fine back to back to back 1000 plus yard seasons and that's all I really need from this pick.

[A]

So for my next pick we're sitting here at 2:06. I'm going very running back heavy, but I think that this is just, you know, fantasy football has really swung aggressively towards wide receivers and I am seeing so much value in running backs here. Then I'm gonna go with Josh Jacobs. This guy?

[B]

No, dude, I thought that you wouldn't take him because this is an opposite of what you've been doing. That's the opposite of what you've been doing the entire time. So.

[A]

But sometimes the value just gets too good. And like this is like I, I almost took Josh Jacobs with my last pick. This is a guy who just like somehow finds the end zone every single week and also was dealing with injuries late in the season that kind of marred his production a little bit. But since showing up in Green Bay, this guy's been an absolute workhorse. They were dealing with so many offensive line issues this year with injuries there that I don't think we really saw a ceiling year from Josh Jacobs. We saw this guy finish as a top five running back just two years ago and I think that he is very likely to find that top 10 path again in 2026.

[B]

Yeah, I mean that's the thing. I had Jacobs and Nico back to back with Jacobs one spot ahead. So I, I let myself a little.

[A]

Too cute thinking you knew me better. Than you did.

[B]

And you know what? Now I have to force my hand to take a running back here because I have. I do have a tear break here. So I'm going to take Saquon Barkley again. This is a guy where you may go back to that list. Five running backs that have over 100 yards from scrimmage in their career. McCaffrey, Bijon, Gibbs, Taylor and Barkley. And I do think that Kellen Moore kind of set them up to be a team that didn't throw to the running back. He didn't throw to the running back a ton with the Saints. He didn't throw toss Eckler a ton with the Chargers. And I think that that philosophy carried over to Kevin Petullo. And I think whatever coach shows up now is going to remember that this guy is a guy. They can go out and catch a ton of passes and be a massive, awesome weapon. If they do bring in a Clint Kubiak or Bobby Slowik, they. They also interviewed Slowik recently for offensive coordinator, then that will be a team where they use the fullback and they use the blocking tight ends. The team already doesn't use a wide receiver. 3. So I think it would be a great fit for them to have a situation like that. And that would be great news for Barkley.

[A]

Calcatera out there blocking instead of just Johan Dotson doing nothing.

[B]

Exactly. It'd be so easy to do that. Just bring in whatever fullback you know is floating around. I'm not sure if, like, C.J. ham's gonna retire, but there's guys out there you can bring in and just. And make it happen. So for me, I. I'm taking Barkley here because I don't. I don't have a huge tear break at wide receiver, but I do at running back there. And there's a wide receiver that I want you to take so I don't have to take.

[A]

Yeah. And that. That's probably where I'm going. When I look at these last few picks. This is kind of like the. Okay, they've fallen far enough. Nico Collins, Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley. And I'm sticking with that theme, going with Justin Jefferson here. I know.

[B]

I knew you were gonna. That I was like, someone's got to take them now. He's probably now too low in our. Com. Our combined rankings than where he should be. Did you have him. Did you have him ranked higher than where you just took?

[A]

I did. And then I just. I didn't want to be the one to take him.

[B]

I know. And that's, that's going to be. I hope people listen to this. Definitely put a link to this when you put the article out. But, like, I think people need to know that, that, like, when you sit down and do the rankings versus when you do the draft, things can change. But both of us, I knew both of us were sitting there looking at that name, being like, I had just.

[A]

I had him at 11 in my 13.

[B]

I have him at 13. And what are we on right now? We're on pick, like 20.

[A]

Yeah, we're on pick 20. And it was both of us. Like, I had him at 11, but I was just like, I don't. Like, every time I wanted to. And like, we're not clicking names, we're saying names on a podcast. But it's like the fear, like, he was the wide receiver 25 last year. If you take away that sample with Carson Wentz, where, like, playing with Carson Wentz, he was still Justin Jefferson of old. He was pacing for over 1600 yards in the games that he played with Carson Wentz. In the games without Wentz, he was outside of the top 50 wide receivers in per game scoring. So I don't know what the Vikings are going to do this year, but I do have faith in Kevin o'. Connell. I don't know if it's going to run it back with JJ McCarthy. I don't know if they're going to bring in competition, but like we said, you get to a certain point where it's just like, okay, this guy can't fall any farther. You talk about guys who could potentially be the top scoring flex player. Justin Jefferson, I think checks that box right Easily.

[B]

Easily does. So, yeah, he had to be taken next, man. He absolutely had to be scooped up. Like Jefferson, Barkley, like, down years for those guys, they don't matter. But at the same time, you imagine.

[A]

This time last year if you said we would be like, disgusted to take Justin Jefferson at 208.

[B]

That's what I mean. Like, you could have started this draft. CD Lamb. Justin Jefferson, which is literally like in most years one and two. But we were saying that this offseason where it was like, we're going through and I'm like, man, I just did a best ball draft where I took Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor, and I'm. I'm nervous about it, but it turned out to be awesome. You know what I mean? Like, it's like from year to year, the little things can move these guys around. Could end up being an incredible pick. The one Thing we do know though, that it's always been true, but we've always wanted, we've always wanted to dismiss it is that no one's truly quarterback proof. The players that are good, that are great, are still, are still great even when they don't have a, a great quarterback. But when they have a great quarterback, they're phenomenal. Right? Like Andre Johnson never had a good quarterback. He's in the hall of Fame despite not, I think, I don't even think he ever scored double digit touchdowns in the season. And guy like Tara McLaurin, we're like, oh yeah, Terry McLaurin's quarterback proof. He's great. You know, he would have a thousand yards every year. But then when a quarterback did show up, you know what happened? He scored 13 touchdown touchdowns. He had never scored more than seven. Go look at Brandon Cooks's career, he would always give you a thousand yards. But when his quarterback was Drew Brees or Tom Brady, he would score nine touchdowns. And when his quarterback was a young Jerry Goff or somebody else, he'd score four. And that, that really is the thing is that like these guys obviously can be great, they can make an individual great plays, but you do need that, you do need to have a, at least decent quarterback. I mean I watched Randy Moss on the Raiders, he sucked, dude, he was terrible. He didn't even want to play, remember? And then he went to play with Tom Brady, scored 23 touchdowns, you know.

[A]

Catching one handed touchdowns, 40 yards downfield.

[B]

Like just unbelievable over Darrell Rivas.

[A]

Right?

[B]

You know, I mean it was like.

[A]

This day, maybe the coolest touchdown in NFL history.

[B]

Like that could have been cooler swag, dude. And then he went to the Titans and he sucked. It's like, it is funny how it's like you do got to have that, you know, you got to have that with devonte Adams.

[A]

Right? Like devonte Adams getting up there in his career. So many people wrote him off like, okay, he is on the downturn of his career. And then what happens? He goes to Los Angeles, he plays with Matthew Stafford and he has like the most touchdowns he's had in almost a decade.

[B]

Yeah, and then he did the Billy Madison moment with the kids with the, with the other players there. Did you see that? Like you grab him, but you grab him by the cheek and you say don't ever leave the third grade. He literally said, he was like, I've in my career. He's like, he's like, I would go, he's go, I wouldn't do anything differently he's like, I wanted to move around and play with their car, do these things. He goes, here's the thing. Stay in this building. He goes, you don't know how good you got it. The grass is not greener. He goes, stay here. Stay in the third grade forever. To all the guys on the team. You know, I think that's what happens. You go play for Woody Johnson. Right, Right. But, you know, it. It does matter. It does matter. So for me, I'm on board with there. And I'm actually, I'm. I don't know about you. I'm getting kind of close to where I would consider take potentially taking quarterbacks and tight ends here.

[A]

Yeah. And. And we don't have to for the sake of this. Like, we're not trying to build a full team. We're just kind of going through our top 24. But 209, back to you. Who are you taking here, Coop? We got four picks left to each.

[B]

I'm going to take another boring pick, but I'm going to take George Pickens. I just think that with this team, like, both these guys can thrive, both these guys can eat. This guy is electric. If he leaves, great. He'll be a wide receiver somewhere else. If he stays, just as fine, if not better. I think there's a high volume pass attack and this is one of the most fun players to watch. Dude, I just love watching guys out there just holding the ball like a loaf of bread. It's like watching LeSean McCoy. You know what I mean? It's just, he's. He wants to make something happen so desperately, desperately every time he gets the ball. And I just, I love that from this guy. I think he is a diva. He is a maniac. He. He can let you down, but when it, when it's good, it's so good. So I'm gonna go Pickens. I already have lamb, so whatever. Like, they, you know, sometimes you just gotta. I'll take Dak later too.

[A]

I was gonna say, I'll save that for you.

[B]

We'll each have 10 quarterbacks, so.

[A]

All right, well, I guess I'm gonna do it here. And you know, so often what I've said, my plan is in drafts this year is to not be the first person to take a tight end. I said, I'm going to let somebody else take Trey McBride and then I'm going to take Brock Bowers immediately after. I think that's the strategy of this year. But again, we just got to a point where I think you and I were Both playing the same game here, and we can't go through 24 picks without Trey McBride and Brock Bowers being selected. So I am going to take Brock Bowers here at Or. I'm sorry, Sorry. No, I'm not taking Brock Bowers here. I'm taking Trey McBride here at the 210. I. I'd be shocked if he makes it to the 210 in many drafts next year. But again, this is one of those, like we see this every year. The top scoring tight end ends up getting drafted like that 1, 2 turn and almost never lives up to the draft capital. I think you and I both know that and that's why he slipped a little bit further in this draft. I do expect Trey McBride to be the tight end one again. I'm going to have it ranked that way, but this is where I'd be comfortable taking him, assuming he's going at that 1, 2 turn. I'm probably not going to have any Trey McBride, but if I can get him in the late second, that feels like a pretty fair bit value.

[B]

It is. And I'll take out for just for the sake of the exercise. I'll take Brock Bowers then. I think I have Trey McBride ranked ahead for redraft.

[A]

These are thin between the two of them.

[B]

I have. Do you have Bowers ahead in Dynasty? Because I, I actually made that move recently to put. I do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've got Bowers as my number one. My Dynasty rankings are spicy for tight ends. I've got a Colson Loveland as my, my tight end three after those two.

[B]

Yeah, that's not spicy at all, dude. Coulson level was getting 10 targets a game. He was running 70 of his routes from a wide receiver spot. He was running real high a dot routes. He was breaking tackles. He's super handsome. I mean, it's like, what, like, what more do you want? What kind of team are you trying to build here?

[A]

Foreign dynasty might be the, the shocking one to you, Coop. I'm still holding it down for Kyle Pitts.

[B]

I love Kyle Pitts, dude. I, I actually, I think I have Kyle Pitts at three and I love it at four, so.

[A]

All right, so we still got the same problem. But yeah, I've got Bowers as my Dynasty Dynasty tight end one.

[B]

The only knock. Here's the thing with ranking Bowers ahead for Dynasty tight end one is that people are like, oh, who's the quarterback for Bowers? I'm like, well, who's the quarterback for Trey McBride? Because Jacob Brissette just came in and went 1 in 11.

[A]

Like, you know, like portal season.

[B]

It's like you're gonna, you're gonna run it back with an older, older quarterback that just went 111. That's nonsense. That's not the answer. That's not the solution. Like, I think they should, honestly, as crazy as it sounds, I think they should give Kyler Murray another shot. Unless they have some way to move on from him. Like draft somebody else and start Kyler Murray again and just try him with a new coordinator. But like, I don't know what they're going to do. I know Trey McBride is incredible though. And he led the league in every single category. Like literally every category, not just the surface level ones. You name it. Like, tackles were broken tackles, led the league, receptions versus man to man, screens, literally everything. Like just even every underlying stupid stat. That doesn't matter. It doesn't. It's usually at anyway just because. You know what I mean? Like, so he's all. He's awesome. He's got to go first and then Bowers next. How many more picks? What are we at here? How many pictures? Each?

[A]

Have one more or. No, no, I. I have one more and then that's it. We got the, the 212. Wrap it up here.

[B]

Are you gonna take it? I wanna, I want to try and predict your pick here. You're not taking a quarterback, are you?

[A]

Before that. I just want to relive this moment because I think it was like the highlight of the 2025 season. And I'm sure you had Brock Bowers on some teams. Was there any better feeling than like knowing Brock Bowers was hurt? Having to go a month without Brock Bowers and then him returning and immediately catching three touchdowns in his first game back? Like I was levitating off my couch during that. Like, that was just unbelievable.

[B]

It's just he had so many moments and again, that's why I still like Kyle Pitts and some of these guys is that like. And this is a huge thing because I know we're getting into dynasty season. When you're out there watching like the film and doing your stuff and even just watching highlights, look for guys that, that are actual difference making players. Look for contested catches. Look for catches versus man to man. Look for the dude that when there's three players ready to tackle him, he doesn't just go down, he gets like four more yards. Look for the guy that dives into the end zone. Go and watch the highlights of Luke's schoon maker and which you can watch like all 40 of his catches in 10 minutes and then go and watch George Kittle and then you'll be like, why did George Kittle fall to the fifth round? This guy is a maniac. He's a little playmaker. You know, you watch Sam Laporta breaking nine tackles in one play in that bowl game. Like for, to me, people, people will say like, oh, that's just surface level stuff. To me at tight end more than anything. Look for guys like that matters. Like, because there's so many guys that don't ever do that. All they do is block and catch and fall down. Like that's so rare to actually do just count those plays because you watch Colson Loveland and Tyler Warren and it is nuts the plays that they're making. And then you go and look at, not to dog him too hard because I think he's still got some upside. But like, look at Mason Taylor. Like, he's not doing any of that stuff. Yeah, he's not.

[A]

He had some, some nice plays and big moments, but like, yeah, nowhere near. I'm going to share like a, a cancelable take here, but like just watch a player's highlights and I think like, if you're putting in the work, yeah, you want to watch full games and see what they do poorly as well. But like, when I'm starting with these incoming rookies, I have no shame in saying that I'll look at their highlights and like, just see because like, is this a special player? Does he have those movements that like other guys can't do? And you can get that from a 10 minute highlight reel and then from there, then you start looking at, okay, let's see how he can pass block and let's see the other things. But like just watching a player's highlights alone will get you a pretty good idea of what that player can do, right?

[B]

The other thing is you don't know what can be fixed and what can't. I see people all the time that are like, oh yeah, this guy's first step is terrible. And the Steelers might literally sit there and be like, hey, we found another one who needs help on his first step. So we're going to take him in the third round and he's going to be our next breakout like they did for like 10 years straight. Like, you don't know what they're looking for either, right? For you, I'll tell you, like, first of all, watch the highlights because that's fun. And this is supposed to be fun. Like anybody that Tells you that this has to suck. That's dumb. Like, definitely enjoy, dude. Enjoy watching football.

[A]

Like I watching that midday game against Appalachian State and grime in the film. You're not really about that.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. It's like I, you. You don't have to only watch routes where they don't get targeted. Like, I go through and I hit all the spreadsheets and I hit all the important information and then I watch the highlights because that's fun. And I make note of that, like, who's doing special stuff. So I think that is an important part of the process.

[A]

I'll try to guess my last player here.

[B]

Coop, now you're not taking a quarterback.

[A]

I'm not taking a quarterback.

[B]

Are you going to. Are we going to have a top 24 with no rookies in it? That's my question here.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, so you're gonna take. That's what I figured. You're gonna take Jeremiah Love.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah. I think this, I think that's a good pick.

[B]

I think that's. I think he needed to be on this, this list and I have him at 19. I just wanted you to talk about him.

[A]

Yeah. And, you know, it's just a guy that. Just a transcendent talent. Like, again, we were just talking about it. Like, just go Google Jeremiah Love highlights and you will see him doing things like breaking six tackles within two yards to score a touchdown against Penn State. Like, just doing unbelievable things on a week in and week out basis. At over 3,000 yards from scrimmage over the last two years. Heisman finalists do, like, just everything you could possibly want about a prospect is there. And, you know, rumors are that he's probably going to go top 10. I think if he lands at the Saints, that's a great opportunity. There's word about the Bears potentially trading up and try to turn him into their new Jameer Gibbs. With Ben Johnson, I mean, he's just a good player who I think is, for the most part, you know, regardless of where he lands, he's going to be able to figure it out. So I will be shocked if this is where he's going. Now. I think that once he actually gets that draft, capital, especially if it's inside the top 10, we're probably looking at him going closer to the 1, 2 turn, but I think that's just the easy pick here.

[B]

Oh, if he goes. If he goes in the top 20 of the NFL draft, we'll have to. We'll have to move him up. We'll have to move him way up. He should. Because. Because when you. And Big shout out to Dwayne McFarlane, who does a ton of work on this, when you plug in his speed and his production and the fact that he's 6 foot 215 or whatever it is, and then you put in top 20 draft capital, the hit rate on those guys, like at least having a RB2 season at some point within the first three years. Yeah, it's like 95 or something like that.

[A]

Worst case scenario is Sony Michelle, who gave you a top 20 season once.

[B]

Yeah. And like literally dragged the team to the super bowl. And we're like, one. He literally won a Super Bowl. We're like, that guy sucks. Millionaire super bowl winner. And we're like, well, yeah, he had a bad knee, so whatever. You know, it's like, we're so harsh on these guys. Like, if you're the, you know, if you're the 18th best quarterback, imagine being the 18th best person in the world at your job. And we're like, yeah, that guy's a loser. 18. Best. Best person in the world at your job. You have $70 million and people on the Internet are like, yeah, what a loser. You know, it's like. It is crazy the game we play here. But Love had to be on the list. Absolutely. And he could end up being a lot higher. Higher.

[A]

And then there's some receivers, too, you know, Carnel Tate, Mikhail Lemon, some other guys who are drafting some buzz that I don't really see it with them. I think these are more like late first round picks. But, you know, a late first round pick often gets a good landing spot. That gets us excited in fantasy. So we still got the draft coming up. We still got the free agency. A lot to sort out here. It's going to be a fun offseason, but also some big omissions here.

[B]

Coop, I know we got to get out of here, but as a bonus, like, if you were forced to take a quarterback, who would you take?

[A]

Josh Allen is still the QB one for me and the guys. QB one every single season. But I have Allen, Lamar and May. Very tight in a tier.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, that's the way it's got to be. The thing with Allen and Lamar is they've. They kind of are breaking the mold. Well, not Lamar yet because he didn't have 100 carries. But there's only been three quarterbacks age 28 or older to run the ball 100 times. Cam Newton, Michael Vick, and now Josh Allen.

[A]

But.

[B]

And I see. I Look at those numbers. I'm like, man, at some point we're gonna have to move off these guys. But I can't yet. Not yet.

[A]

Like I'll move off of when I see it. They've given me.

[B]

I'll just do it until I see it.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah. And even like I could see Josh Allen, you know, two, three years from now, not rushing 100 times, but still ending up with 10 or 12 rushing touchdowns. And that his value doesn't come from being an 800-1000 yard rusher, his value comes from the rushing touchdowns. And just given his size and the way that he plays, I don't think that's going anywhere.

[B]

Just being a hog. Yeah, you can't, you can't coach that out of him. I'm going to have Drake May too. I think.

[A]

I like it, I like it. I mean, Lamar, it was, it was a weird year for Lamar. Like I, you know, I've been, I've been the Lamar guy for, for the last half decade, but it was, it was a weird season.

[B]

He's just a special runner. I mean like, dude, the spin move, he's just faster. But the thing about Drake May is I think people underestimate how truly fast he is. Like he's as fast as Jaden Daniels, you know what I mean? Like, looks like Allen.

[A]

That's exactly what he looks like when he takes off running.

[B]

He's faster than that. I mean, fat Allen, he's Alan ran like I think like a 47 or so. Like he is like a battering ram. But dude, Drake May runs like a, like a 4 5. Like he's like legitimately real, real world fast, you know, Like, I think people lose that in a little bit when they start comparing him to other guys. And also looking at his rookie year where they weren't calling any, any design runs for them, you know, on purpose. Right, because they had four wins or whatever it was. So yeah, I'm on board the difference.

[A]

Between a well run organization and a not well run organization. They're saying, you know, Drake May stay in the pocket, learn to pass the ball. And then you got the Giants just like, hey, Jackson, Dart. Just go out there and just smash this guy with your head.

[B]

If he dies, he dies. Right? It's like in the press conference, I mean in that Patriots meaningless Patriots Monday night game game, he got absolutely shellacked. And he gets up and he's like, go back and watch my highlights. Going back to elementary school. That's the way I play ball. And I'm like, well, just maybe for like a month, could you just not. Right. It's just. Could you just not just for like a little bit, dude.

[A]

Well, we got some. Some big omissions here. Rashi Rice. You know, I think we both probably just have the concerns about Patrick Mahomes not being there to start the season, but very similar to the debate that we had going into this year, right where Rashi Rice was suspended. We knew we weren't going to have him for six weeks, and we were still drafting him. A.J. brown, I think if you were to stay with Philadelphia, probably would fall into round three, but knowing that he's a potential trade candidate, you know, if the, the. The Patriots, for instance, are in a position where they could move off of Stefan Diggs, make a trade for AJ Brown, then we're probably looking at him closer to like the 1, 2 turn. So there's Peter O. McMillan T. Higgins, Bucky Irving. There are a lot of players that.

[B]

Probably Chris Olave got to be named probably with that group, too.

[A]

Derrick Henry, I think. Yeah, there's. There's a lot of guys that are just kind of like right on the fringe here, but there's still so much uncertainty. We still have so much left to decipher this off season, so stick with us. Check out what we're doing over here at football, guys. Check out what our friend Coop is doing over at Fantasy Alarm. Just getting you prepped for the season because there's a lot changing over the next few months. Coop, before we sign off, let everyone know where they can find you on social media, articles you got coming out, podcast, radio, all that good stuff.

[B]

Easy enough. At Coupe Fiasco. On Twitter at Coop, there it is. On Reddit, I post all my stuff that's available at Fantasy Alarm, Fantasy Alarm, YouTube, and also SiriusXM channel 87. 6 to 8pm on weekdays. I'm on there a ton, especially Thursday and Friday, so check it all out but Twitter. And that's where I let everybody know what's going on. So if you just follow me over there, I post everything that's free and everything we got going.

[A]

And this surely won't be the last time that coup and I collab this offseason. We.

[B]

We.

[A]

We love to chop it up. So, you know, get ready for. For something a couple of months from now, whether it's on my channel, Coop's channel. Follow Coop, everything that he's doing, and you'll see what he's got coming out. But thank you so much for taking the time to tune in. We'll be back next week with a new guest looking at some rookies as we are just getting closer and closer to the NFL draft. Thank you so much for tuning in and I will see you next week. Marketing is hard, but I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host. You seek it out and download it. You listen to it while driving, working out, cooking, even going to the bathroom. Podcasts are a pretty close companion. And this is a podcast ad. Did I get your attention? You can reach great listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Libsyn Ads. Choose from hundreds of top podcasts offering host endorsements or run a pre produced ad like this one across thousands of shows. To reach your target audience in their favorite podcasts with Libsyn ads, go to Libsynads.com that's L I B S Y N ads.com today.