Week 10 Rankings, Sleepers, and Busts || Fantasy Football 2025

Summary

Footballguys Fantasy Football Show – Week 10 Rankings, Sleepers, and Busts (Nov 6, 2025)

Hosts: Alfredo Brown & Dave Kluge
Podcast Theme: The Footballguys team breaks down Week 10 fantasy football running back and wide receiver rankings, dives into key start/sit decisions, highlights this week’s top sleepers, and flags notable busts. The episode is loaded with actionable advice, context about injury updates, and a few fun tangents along the way.

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Episode Overview

This week, Alfredo and Dave go tier-by-tier through more than 70 running backs and wide receivers for Week 10, weighing injury news, playing time changes, matchups, and shifting depth charts. The emphasis is on actionable insights for start/sit dilemmas, sleeper plays, potential busts, and context for evolving backfields and receiving corps as we hit the latter half of the fantasy season.

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Running Back Tiers, Injuries & Depth Chart Shakeups

(02:50–16:10; 21:53–36:12)

Top Tier Backs & James Cook Situation

• Main Players Discussed: Jonathan Taylor, Bichon Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, and most notably James Cook.
• James Cook’s Injury (04:00–07:33):
  • If James Cook plays: “He's a top two, top three running back on the week.”
    — Alfredo, 03:56.
  • If out, it's Ray Davis, not Ty Johnson, who steps into lead back duties.
  • “People are just really misreading the tea leaves here...Ty Johnson, his role won’t change whatsoever. Ray Davis is the guy that gets dropped into the James Cook role”
    — Dave, 04:24.
  • Potential for RB1 volume if Davis starts; Alfredo a bit more conservative but agrees on strong usage.
  • Game script reminder: If Bills get up big, Ray Davis could see even more work.

Tier 2: Clarifying Backfield Splits

• Kyren Williams & Blake Corum (08:51–09:36):
  • Rumor about Corum taking over backfield is overblown – still a 65/35 split, Kyren’s the clear RB1.
• DeAndre Swift & Kyle Manungai (10:09–15:45):
  • Swift DNP to start week; if he’s out, Manungai vaults to RB2 status.
  • Debate about the likelihood of a 50/50 split vs. Swift dominating. Dave prefers Swift:
    “Even in a 50/50 role, he's got big play upside, he's got pass catching chops and that's what makes him a high end RB2.” (15:03)
  • “Ben Johnson has shown a penchant for wanting to have a split backfield...I think it probably just gets closer to being 50/50.”
    — Alfredo, 13:01.
• Traveon Henderson/Breece Hall (16:10–18:52):
  • Henderson a solid RB2, but will definitely see split with Terrell Jennings.
    “It's going to be split kind of 60/40. But since [Henderson is] just a better player getting the high value touches, I prefer him well ahead of Terrell Jennings.” — Dave, 17:13.
  • Breece Hall: Confidence is shaken, both hosts have him below consensus.

Deeper RB Tiers, Sleepers, and Handcuffs (19:53–36:12)

• Aaron Jones (21:22–22:21):
  • Veteran DNPs, but says he’ll play through AC sprain.
  • “If he is playing, he's right at that RB2, RB3 bubble for me.” (22:12)
• Jacory Croskey-Merritt (23:26–26:53):
  • Volume is there, but game script and lack of passing usage make him risky:
    “It's all the same concerns we had at the beginning of the year, but now the offense is bad.” (25:36)
• RJ Harvey & Woody Marks (27:08–30:50):
  • Both have upside as RB3/flex plays this week, Harvey especially if team gets ahead.
  • “He’s the one guy in this tier that could end up finishing realistically as like an RB1 on the week.” – Dave, 29:35
• Stash Watch: Isaiah Davis (30:50–32:37)
  • “Isaiah Davis is the one that jumps out...even when Breece Hall was healthy he still got 100 yards in that matchup.” – Dave, 31:23

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2. Wide Receiver Ranks & Matchup Analysis

(35:35–61:49)

Elite Tier “Auto-Starts” with Minimal Concern

(35:58–38:55) Players: Puka Nacua, JSN, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Drake London, Devante Adams, Justin Jefferson, Emeka Egbuka.

• Drake London vs. Sauce Gardner (“Sauce Watch” 35:58–38:55):
  • No downgrade despite Sauce trade to Indy:
    “Drake London, his best traits are as a contested catch pass-catcher. So I’m not too concerned here...he has just turned it on over the last weeks.” — Dave, 37:28.
  • Alfredo: “He's moving all over the lineup...they move him around to get him the matchups that they want.”

Next Tier: Caution with Nico Collins, Rome Odunze

(39:11–43:14)

• Nico Collins with Davis Mills:
  “He’s probably the one that scares me most.” — Dave, 40:14
• Rome Odunze – Social Media Drama:
  • Dad tweeted about wanting a trade; fan base turning against Rome after high early season expectations.

Volume Shifts, Usage Dips & Chris Olave Debate

(43:14–46:14)

• Chris Olave: Was the target monster under Rattler, now less so with Shuck but volume should rebound, especially in the slot.
• Keenan Allen Usage Dip (51:22–52:09): “Not even so much a start, more of a concern...not great for fantasy.”

Mid/Deep Tiers: Sleepers & Flex Plays

(47:03–61:49)

• Jameson Williams as a Week 10 Sleeper (47:31–50:13):
  • “Please tell me this is it. Like, Washington Commanders are giving up so many points to opposing wide receivers...I hope this is another game where they can get Jameson Williams going, get his confidence going.” — Dave, 47:31.
• Wandale Robinson (volume PPR floor), Romeo Doubs (target share in depleted receiving corps), Quentin Johnston (deep bye-week sleeper).
• Troy Franklin & Courtland Sutton (55:01–56:00):
  • Franklin quietly out-targeting Sutton, likened to Michael Thomas role.
• Alec Pierce “Boom” Alert (58:17–58:59):
  • Prime for a touchdown regression; already has more targets than last year but no TDs yet.
• Rashid Shaheed New Debut in Seattle (59:03–61:42):
  • Player familiarity with system and o-coordinator translates to immediate usage – could see a full role week one:
    “He knows the playbook, he knows what his routes, role is going to be...I think for Rashid [Shaheed], if you can get a three wide receiver set out there...I don’t know how you possibly can defend that.” – Dave, 60:06.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fantasy Overanalysis:
  “All you're telling me is that you just watched Red Zone on Sunday because for whatever reason, they really focused in on this one drive.” – Dave, 08:51 (On Blake Corum taking over Rams backfield)

• On DeAndre Swift vs. Manungai splitting touches:
  “I don't think it's a certainty that Manungai becomes the 60/40 guy or that Swift remains the 60/40 guy. I think it probably just gets closer to being 50/50...I also think Kyle Manungai does those things that coaches love.” – Alfredo, 13:01

• On Breece Hall’s Risk:
  “My confidence is a little shaken with Breece Hall...I'd almost rather have DeAndre Swift in there over Breece Hall.” – Alfredo 17:39

• On Coaching Honesty in 2025:
  “There's a different vibe amongst coaches, coordinators where they're almost too refreshingly honest...hearing Aaron Glenn talk about, like, I'm going to talk to other coaches to see how they dealt with starting 0-6...” – Alfredo, 32:37

• Star Wars/Pop Culture Tangent:
  (48:03–49:26)
  “Obi Wan, I failed you, Anakin!” – Alfredo, trying to illustrate Jameson Williams’ usage with a Star Wars metaphor, followed by Dave’s confusion about the number of “OG” movies.

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Important Timestamps

• James Cook Injury Analysis: 03:35–07:55
• DeAndre Swift / Manungai Debate: 10:09–15:45
• Breece Hall / Isaiah Davis Handcuff: 18:31–19:53
• Aaron Jones Status: 21:22–22:35
• Running Back Deep Tiers (Croskey-Merritt, RJ Harvey, Woody Marks): 23:26–30:50
• Wide Receiver Start/Sit Tiers Begin: 35:35
• Drake London vs Sauce Gardner: 35:58–38:55
• Nico Collins / Rome Odunze Worry: 39:11–43:14
• Chris Olave Usage with Shuck: 43:14–46:14
• Jameson Williams Sleeper Hype: 47:31–50:13
• Keenan Allen Usage Dip: 51:22–52:09
• Deep Sleepers: Troy Franklin, Alec Pierce, Tez Johnson: 55:01–58:59
• Rashid Shaheed in Seattle: 59:03–61:42

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Actionable Takeaways for Week 10

• Monitor James Cook injury news; Ray Davis becomes an immediate top-15 RB if Cook sits.
• RB backfield splits (e.g., DET, NYJ, NE) will be critical. Don’t overreact to small sample splits—stick to high-value touch players.
• If Aaron Jones is active, he's startable as a borderline RB2/3 even with limited practice.
• Kyren Williams remains a locked-in RB1, Corum is just a desperation flex.
• Wide receiver tiers outside top-10 are flatter than usual—don’t be afraid to trust your gut with upside plays (Jameson Williams, Troy Franklin, Rashid Shaheed).
• Wandale Robinson is an ideal PPR floor play during bye weeks.
• Watch for Rashid Shaheed's Seattle debut—he immediately slots in as a high-upside dart throw.
• High-volume floor runners (Woody Marks, RJ Harvey) are viable RB3 or flexes with strong matchups.
• If you’re desperate, Alec Pierce and Tez Johnson are due for “boom” performances.

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Final Thoughts

Alfredo and Dave deftly break down start/sit and sleeper priorities for Week 10, placing a premium on context, game script, and actionable data—not just narrative, hype, or one-drive TV reactions. Injuries and bye weeks may force tough lineup decisions, but the deeper the pod goes into the tiers, the more insights and actionable fantasy football advice you’ll get.

Dave: “We went through all the running backs, the wide receivers, went through over 70 plus players here, and hopefully we gave all of you watching or listening, some sleepers, some flex plays, some guys that you can start this weekend in week 10.” (61:48)

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“Adios!” – Alfredo & Dave (61:49)

Transcript

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[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

All right. I've seen that.

[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

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[Dave Kluge]

I don't know if you saw recently on the Pablo Torres show, Pablo and Mina did selling salts because, you know, there's the whole discourse, salts in the NFL. And it like knocked Mina out of her chair. Like. And I remember like I had a similar instance. The first time I was doing it, I was over at my buddy's house and he's a powerlifter. And this was probably like 15 years ago. And like, you know, it's 9pm we're getting ready to head out to the bars and, you know, had already Thrown back quite a few drinks at that point. My buddy goes, all right, let's hit the smelling salts before we go to the bars. And he just puts it in my face. And I didn't know that you weren't supposed to like, like you're supposed to just like put it near your face.

[Alfredo Brown]

Small. Yeah.

[Dave Kluge]

Like an eye likes hit it and like immediately, like eyes watering. I'm just like, what the hell was that?

[Alfredo Brown]

Oops.

[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

Decisions are getting even more difficult this week. So Dave Kluge and I are going to be looking at some sleepers that you could put into your fantasy lineups. I'm Alfredo Brown. Welcome into the football guys fantasy football show. Dave. We have over 70 players to talk about. It always kind of comes around to this many players. What we did was we took some sleepers, some players that maybe you are struggling with start sit decisions on, and some players that we think need to be in your lineups. We'll talk about a little bit more than that too. And we're going to go through all these names like we've done in the past. We'll sort of glide through the first couple tiers here because for the most part, you know what to do. Dave, let's start with the running backs because I do think there is one talking point that we need to have here in this first tier. So let me list the running backs.

[Dave Kluge]

You're.

[Alfredo Brown]

You're there, we're there. We're mind meld. So this tier, number one, Jonathan Taylor, James Cook, Bichon Robinson, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Rico Dowdle and Josh Jacobs. But let's talk about James Cook because Cook has not been able to practice yet. This is a juicy matchup going up against the Dolphins and we really don't have any new news as of right now. We are recording this Thursday morning, 11am Eastern. If let's, let's just talk about both scenarios. If James Cook is good to go, he's a top two, top three running back on the week. I think that's just easy to say, right?

[Dave Kluge]

100. Yeah, he'd be my number two behind Christian McCaffrey and, and if he isn't ready to go. I've seen a lot of discourse about like, well, if you look at the snap shares, you know, Ty Johnson has actually been the RB2 here. This is one of those situations, I think, where people are just really misreading the tea leaves here. I think Ty Johnson, his role won't change whatsoever. I think Ray Davis is the guy that gets dropped into the James Cook role. So I, I, I don't care what Ty Johnson was doing or what Ray Davis has been doing these first nine weeks of the season. It has been very clear that Ray Davis is the RB2 when they need a workhorse back. We saw it in the one game last year that James Cook missed. We saw 150 scrimmage yards from Ray Davis. He was the clear guy there. Ty Johnson is very good at coming in and catching passes on third down and that will remain his role. But I do think a lot of people are misreading this situation. I've seen a lot of people picking up Ty Johnson. Ray Davis is the guy be next up if J. James Cook has to miss any time.

[Alfredo Brown]

Well, I think a lot of this too is, is, as much as we don't want to admit it, it's going to end up on game script. And I think conventional wisdom tells you that the Bills should absolutely destroy the Dolphins in this game. But sometimes these games go the other way and it becomes a little bit of a shootout back and forth. And I'm not, this is not, I'm, Listen, guys, I, I know I'm a Miami boy. Like, this is not me caping up for the Dolphins and saying it's going to be a close.

[Dave Kluge]

We just saw them like lay a whooping on Atlanta a few weeks ago. Like weird things happen. Yeah. Like look at the over unders and the odds to help us get an idea of the game script. But at the end of the day, any given Sunday, like, weird things happen.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah. And the other thing too here, like to this isn't a tangible thing. Josh Allen absolutely owns the Dolphins. He does not lose. They lost. I believe it was once in Josh Allen's career. That was the crazy game at Hard Rock Stadium where It was like 110 degrees and the whole team was just cramping up there on the final drive and it just, it just went tech. This could be one of these games. Josh Allen scores three touchdowns and the running back actually does not matter. Right. Dalton Kincaid is another guy to consider here because the Dolphins are so susceptible to tight ends. I'll say this, Dave, to, to go back to the running back situation there. I think you're right. I think Ray Davis becomes the primary back. I think the role probably grows a little bit more for Ty Johnson. But then let's do the narrative street. Let's go down that and say Bills are up four touchdowns. We're entering the fourth quarter. Let's give these garbage time touches to Ray Davis. There's no need to have Ty Johnson out there catching passes. Let's just run the clock out, let Ray Davis get to 20 touches in the game. That seems to be way more likely than anything else that we might see out of this backfield.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And I think the nice thing too, if you look back at last year, Ray Davis did get three targets in that game that he got to start too. So this is a guy.

[Alfredo Brown]

Oh, he can catch. He, he's, he's actually a very good receiver and good pass blocker.

[Dave Kluge]

Right. And I think that, that a lot of people see him and he's got this like very stout frame. Like, he looks like an early down grinder, but kind of reminds me of Leonard Fournette where he does have that stocky build, but like pretty good route runner. Soft hands out of the backfield as well. So I mean, let's just hypothetically, first of all, we spent so much time talking about this and James Cook could practice today. And it all looks silly, but just for the sake of conversation, if we say James Cook is out in this game, Ray Davis, I think he'd be inside my top eight. Like I'd have him right next to Rico Dowdle in my rankings this week.

[Alfredo Brown]

I don't know about top eight. I don't know about top eight, but.

[Dave Kluge]

He definitely a three down back against Miami. I mean, like, that's one where I'd. Yeah, I'd have him ahead of Josh Jacobs and behind Rico Dowdle.

[Alfredo Brown]

Oh, no, you're, you're, you're taking the smelling salts too early in the morning. I'm not there. I'm. I can see him being top 20 and have him around the command ev doll, breeze, hall area. He is if he has three down capabilities. They're not just gonna bench Ty Johnson though either. So yeah, let's not go too crazy on this. But I think everybody gets it.

[Dave Kluge]

Let's go down to crazy.

[Alfredo Brown]

We have seen that.

[Dave Kluge]

We know.

[Alfredo Brown]

All right, let's go down to tier number two here. Starting with Kyron Williams. Got Derek Henry, Jalen, Warren Quinson, Judkins, J.K. dobbins, Ashton Genty and Dave Ashton. Genti is a guy I talked about a little earlier in the week where the Raiders offense is just lacking all creativity. But Ginty is still getting a lot of work in the passing game, so that's something where he just, he continues to be an auto start each week. I don't think we need to overthink that. Quinshon Judkins coming back from his AC joint sprain that was over. The bye week seems to be good to go. And then Jalen Warren is another guy who's become just an auto start every single week. That Pittsburgh backfield is not changing. The guy I want to bring up here is someone we talked about a little bit earlier in the week is Kyron Williams, where there's this misconception that Blake Corm is starting to take more and more and more of a role when in reality that's not quite what's happening.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, I don't want to like call people non ball knowers or anything like that. I don't want to be like rude, but at the same time, like people who are getting saying like, oh, Blake Corm's taken over the backfield. All you're telling me is that you just watched Red Zone on Sunday because for whatever reason they really focused in on this one drive where Blake Corn was getting a lot of touches. But the actual split, the 65, 35 split between Kyron Williams and Blake Orm is exactly what we've seen for the last month. He didn't get any more work in this game. His efficiency was exactly the same as it's been. Kyron Williams still had over 100 yards and a touchdown like he does almost every single week. But for whatever reason, Red Zone really focused in on this Blake Corum drive. So Blake Orum still, like, if you are really desperate for a flex play, sure, you could put him in there, hope that he scores a touchdown. But this is still Kyron Williams backfield and we both have him ranked as an RB1.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, absolutely. There's not too much to go over here with these top two tiers. A lot of it is just make sure you're paying attention to practice reports on guys like James Cook. But other than that, I think we're good to go with each of them. Let's go down to tier number three, where it starts with Travis Etienne, Rashad White, Trevian Henderson, Breece Hall, Kamani Vidal, David Montgomery and DeAndre Swift. Dave, this is where I think we can start to talk about guys who are maybe not sure fire starts, but we are willing to start them. Is there anyone from this tier that you're saying, okay, I want to get them into my lineup?

[Dave Kluge]

Well, I think what we need to talk about in this tier Most specifically is DeAndre Swift because he was a DNP to start the week. So we don't know if he's going to be practicing or not. And if DeAndre Swift isn't in the game, we saw what Kyle Menungai can do like he is very much so going to be a workhouse workhorse and they did bring in some veterans for workouts earlier in the week. But you look at this matchup against the Giants, it's a pretty nice matchup for a running back. So we both kind of have DeAndre Swift in here as like a sort of placeholder right now. But pay close attention to that because if he doesn't play then I think Nungai goes right back into that high end RB2 discussion.

[Alfredo Brown]

So you and I have a very different ranking here on Manungai and Swift where I think even if Swift is healthy I've got man and Swift back to back because of what could be potential game script here. Maybe not as much passing, there could be some big plays from Swift but there is a bit of a rise, a hot hand type deal going on here. Ben John Ben Johnson has come out and said like we are going to make this an open running back competition. Are we ignoring that? Is it, is it coach speak? Because you seem very, very confident. DeAndre Swift goes right back into his previous role. Kyle Menung guy just gets rescinded back into into where he was at.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, I mean DeAndre Swift wasn't playing bad football. I've seen so many people make the the Chuba Hubbard Rico Dowdle comp. Chuba Hubbard was terrible before he got injured and Rico Dowdle came in and took that job. DeAndre Swift in his three games coming out of the buy he averaged 120 scrimmage yards and scored a touchdown in every single game like he was ripping off big plays. He was doing everything Kyle men and I understand the excitement with Manungai but his backfield competition last week was Britton Brown who hadn't played a snap in almost two years and Travis Homer who was like a pure special teams player. And he gets to go up against the defense those allowing more fantasy points to running backs than any other team. The defense that allowed more broken tackles than any other team. So I think it was just like a great matchup. I don't want to overreact to this too much. If DeAndre Swift was playing poorly early in the year, I might be a little bit more buying into this manangai hype but Swift was playing really well. I don't think that they're going to bench a player who was doing well when he wasn't even that injured. Like I I think they knew this was the week that DeAndre Swift could take off. Ben Johnson talked about like benching him or giving him the week off to protect him from himself because he's been dealing with this groin injury. But I think once he's back he just brings an explosive big play element that you're not getting from Kyle Manangai.

[Alfredo Brown]

I think both things can be true. It could be a week where Kyle Menungai has the easy matchup, no other competition. He still has to go and play well. And. And you said like you said specifically benching DeAndre stuff. I'm not saying they're benching DeAndre Swift. I'm just saying that last week, last.

[Dave Kluge]

Week was kind of a bench like DeAndre Swift said he could play and Ben Johnson came out and said it's my job. Yeah, they're keeping him safe players from themselves. Right. And that's why I said benching but I meant like making him inactive last week is.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah to me that has no bearing on going forward. I'm talking about you have a player in a backfield where Ben Johnson has shown a penchant for wanting to have a split backfield and you now have Kyle man who had himself a big game. I don't think it's necessarily that you can't put the genie back in the bottle but now if you want to keep both these guys healthy, establish the run, be able to do something a little bit different with different players, I think that door opens up. I don't think it's a certainty that Manung guy becomes the 6040 guy or that Swift remains the 6040 guy. I think it probably just gets closer to being 5050 and a lot of this is going to come down to game script and I don't think either player is bad. If anything I think the undersifts a little bit better. But I also think Kyle Manangai does those things. You've talked about this before. Kylemann guy does those things that coaches love. He's just a hard nosed player. He does all the gritty stuff whereas DeAndre Swift is more likely to do some of those things that'll really freak a coach out. Listen, I'm not. I have them back to back. I'm not taking a very tough stance on either of these players.

[Dave Kluge]

The last thing I was like coming out of the buy the backfield was split already like I'm looking week six DeAndre Swift at 56 of the snaps Kaman Guy had 34, week seven, 54, 45, week eight, 49, 46. So like we were already seeing a split backfield before Manangai took over in week nine. I Think it just goes right back to being that. And DeAndre Swift gets more of the high value touches where he's getting the passing down work here. So yeah, I'm anticipating, you know, 60, 40, 55, 45 split just like we saw. But because Swift has the big playoff, the upside, because Swift has the pass catching chops, I just prefer him quite a bit in fantasy.

[Alfredo Brown]

Let me see, how far of a discrepancy do you have between them? Because I see you've got DeAndre Swift as your running back 16 and Manangai is your running back 26.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. So I'm looking at Swift as an RB2 and Manungai is an RB3.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, I just, I don't think I can have Swift that high. You have him ahead of etn, Videl, Breeze Hall. So I've got them both at running backs 24 and 25. Like super cop out here, just.

[Dave Kluge]

And I mean like I said in week six, seven and eight where Swift was playing 56, 54, 49 of the snaps, he was still turning in 100 scrimmage yards and a touchdown every single week. I think that when you rely on him to be a three down back, that's when he starts doing the frustrating stuff when he's coming in there with fresh legs. The interior offensive line has looked so much better. He's running through these wide open lanes. We're seeing the chunk plays, we're seeing the pass catching. I think that's why like we got to remember Even back in 2022 when DeAndre Swift was in Detroit and everybody got so excited. Jamal Williams that year, DeAndre Swift was still the per game RB18 that season. Like even in a 50 role, he's got big play upside, he's got pass catching chops and that's what makes him a high end. RB2.

[Alfredo Brown]

I know how to rile you up, man. Just like just, just say that a Bears player is not going to have a good game.

[Dave Kluge]

I mean, I don't even like DeAndre Swift that much. There are a lot of.

[Alfredo Brown]

I know, that's why I'm so surprised.

[Dave Kluge]

This is a perfect opportunity for him. We see that when DeAndre Swift gets to play behind an elite offensive line, he can give you really good fantasy production and that's what he's been doing all year.

[Alfredo Brown]

All right, that's enough. DeAndre Swift. I have no way to transition from this. We just need to stop talking about it.

[Dave Kluge]

Tier three.

[Alfredo Brown]

The other guy, the other guy from this tier that I really want to talk about is Trevion Henderson who Listen, going up against Tampa Bay Buccaneers, seventh most fantasy points allowed to running backs last week, four catches on six targets for 32 yards for Henderson. This is a game script that will likely force both teams to pass the ball a bit more. Drake May up against Baker Mayfield. I don't see this as like the big defensive stand where they're going to grind it out 10 to 9 and see who wins dirty. This is going to be one of those games that Dave, like we've, we've found these each week. Like where's the game where the ball is going to be flying back and forth? I think this one is it. And especially right now. No Ramandre Stevenson at practice on Wednesday. Like I mentioned, we're recording this Thursday morning. Trevon Henderson could just be an easy start once again this week.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, I mean, I've got him ranked as an RB2 again. I'm going to be like the wet blanket here a little bit. I know everybody gets so excited about like the, the rookies taking over the backfields, but the reality is like Mike Rabel, Josh McDaniels, they are Bill Belichick disciples and they're going to bring in Terrell Jennings for a frustrating amount of touches here. So.

[Alfredo Brown]

Sure.

[Dave Kluge]

Right. Yeah. And I'm looking at Trayvon Henderson in a very similar light that I am to Deandre Swift. It's going to be a split backfield, but Treveon Henderson is the guy who should theoretically get the high value touches. The passing down work, he's theoretically got the big play upside. We saw one nice run last week, so I'm expecting the touches to be split kind of 60, 40. But because Trayvon Henderson is just a better player getting the high value touches, I prefer him well ahead of Terrell Jennings.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, I don't think, I mean, I don't know who's suggesting that Trivian Henderson is going to run away with the job and like some sort of crazy 80, 20 split. But yeah, this is exactly what it's going to be. Mike Rabel likes to keep things split. Josh Daniels likes to keep things split. It's just what you said, it's the high value touches, it's the explosive nature of the plays. And honestly for this one, I do believe it's the game script. Let's go into the next tier here, actually. Last one, Breeze Hall. A lot of people are asking about him. My confidence is a little shaken with Bree Hall. I, I, I don't feel great about it. I still ranked him as my running back 19 but my confidence level feels more like running back 25 or something. Like, I'd almost rather have DeAndre Swift in there over Breeze Hall. Aaron Jones over Breeze Hall. Like, there's a couple and. But it's just because he's a starting running back for the New York jets and likely to get volume. I'm just like, okay, I have to rank him higher, but my confidence is so much weaker.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And you and I are both well below consensus where people are still ranking Breeze hall as the RB17. And there's just other players that I'd prefer ahead of Breeze hall this year.

[Alfredo Brown]

RB18, RB18.

[Dave Kluge]

Because I've got him at. Yeah, RB20 in my rankings. And I think you're a few spots higher. And I think this is just because there's a lot.

[Alfredo Brown]

I've got them at 19.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, we've got a lot of players. And like I said, consensus at RB17. So not. Not a huge stance. But we're both below consensus here. And my fear is just like we said, I forget what show Tuesday or Wednesday where I was just like, oh, coach, my ankle hurts. Like, I could really see something like that popping up here. So actionable advice. You still got to start Breeze hall because he's Breece hall and we expect him to get the touches. But I saw Isaiah Davis get dropped over his bye week last week in a ton of leagues. Yeah, Isaiah Davis, I don't know if there is like a better handcuff right now. Like, sure, you could make the case that Blake Horam, his ceiling is higher, and Tyler Algier, his ceiling is higher. But I think the path for Isaiah Davis to be a full time starter with no competition is much shorter than a lot of the other guys. Where Breeze hall, you know, might decide to take off the end of the year based on the vibes that we're getting out of New York, might decide.

[Alfredo Brown]

To take off before the end of the year. Who knows?

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. So Isaiah Davis, like, he's one of those guys, if he's available, pick him up right now. And if you got to go through waivers, like, he's a guy that I'd be comfortable spending 20, 30 of my fab on if you need to.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah. That's the kind of player you want. You want to stash away for the playoffs. All right, let's go down to the next tier here. Starting with Ken Walker iii, Aaron Jones, Tyrone Tracy Common on Guy, Zach Charbonnet, RJ Harvey, Alvin Kamara, Jakori Krosky Merritt, Woody Marks, and Devin Singletary. Dave, I'm going to talk about the first guy that stands out to me here is Aaron Jones where right now he has not practiced, but he has said he was talking to reporters yesterday. I've played through an AC joint sprain before. I'll be good to go. I am playing right now. He's essentially getting veteran rest days. And listen, these, these things could change as the week goes on. Kevin o' Connell could overrule him and just be like hey man, no, we need you for later on in the season. But right now Aaron Jones is saying that he is going to play despite not practicing. This matchup against Baltimore is actually pretty good for a pass catching running back like him. Game script is going to dictate that the Vikings will need to pass the ball a bit more. We just saw Devon Hn catch six passes against Baltimore. With lama being back, everything's just essentially a shootout. I know this Baltimore Ravens defense has gotten better. Trading for Draymond Jones improves their run defense as well. But the Ravens, they've allowed at least 10 fantasy points to at least one running back in every single game this season. If I had to bet between the Vikings backfield, who's going to be the guy to get those double digit points? I'm going to take Aaron Jones over Jordan Mason as long as he is active and playing 100.

[Dave Kluge]

And there were I was surprised. Of all the players that we talked about on yesterday's Sabotage drop episode, Jordan Mason was the one that kind of raised people's eyebrows the most. And I think there's a lot of pre draft notions that people are still hanging on to. And the reality is like he just has not been good this year. Like he had the one game where he scored a couple of touchdowns and outside of that like there's been nothing that has made me think that Jordan Mason like deserves to run away with the shop. If Aaron Jones doesn't play, we're going to see a healthy dose of Xavier Scott and he is going to get a lot of the passing down work which puts a cap on Jordan Mason's ceiling. So yeah, we don't know if Aaron Jones is going to play or not. We'll pay close attention to these practice reports, but if he is playing, he's right at that RB2, RB3 bubble for me. And you know, if he's able to log a full practice, I'll probably even bump them up a little higher. I could see myself putting them ahead of Kenneth Walker, David Montgomery, Tyrone Tracy and kind of getting him into that back end RB2 range.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, I've got him right now as my RB. Let me see. RB23 right now. So he's right there on that RB2 bubble.

[Dave Kluge]

And would you agree that, like, if he. If he can log a full practice on Friday, that'll instill a little bit more confidence? Like, if he's got that questionable tag, then you're always worried about re injury or a limited workload. If he's off the injury report, then we're both probably bumping him up in our rankings.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah. I almost think, just ignorantly, I will say, like, when a player says, I'm good to play this weekend, especially an older veteran like Aaron Jones, like, who's been through it, he kind of knows when to speak and when not to. If he's saying that on Wednesday, like, yeah, I know I didn't practice, don't worry, I'll be good. I'm kind of inclined to believe him. It just. It doesn't seem like this is especially Kevin o'. Connell. It doesn't seem like it's an organization where you're like, hold your horses there, pal. You're not playing. Seems like.

[Dave Kluge]

Remember Keenan Allen grabbing the camera right before kickoff and saying, don't bench me in your fantasy lineups this week and then putting up a zero?

[Alfredo Brown]

Aaron Jones seems to be, like, a much more trustworthy guy than Keenan Allen. I'm just gonna. Yeah. Kevin o' Connell also way more trustworthy than whoever the coach was for the Chargers. All right, anyone else from this tier that interests you? Dave? I've got a couple of other players, but I want to hear from you as well.

[Dave Kluge]

Jacori Crosby Merit. This could end up being another tough game for him. You know, it's been tough sledding for Jacobi Groski Merit over the last month. And you look at this Detroit Lions offense, you look at the spread right here, this is a game where we expect it to end up getting pushed towards a negative game script. And as we've talked about a lot, that's the big knock on Jacori Crosby Marin is that he is a zero in the receiving game. So if they end up down two scores in the first quarter, we're going to see a heavy dose of Jeremy McNichols. We're going to see a lot of passes, and that is a game script that doesn't work for Jacori Crosby Merit. So we talked about him as a potential sabotage drop. And I think that this week, like, I would love if I had Jacori Groski Merit Dropped him and then my opponent picked him up and put him in the lineup. And I got a face against Shakuri crossing Merit, because this feels like one where, like, we have to rank him somewhere because we know there's going to be some projectable volume. But this also feels like it has all the writing on the wall of another, like, 3.5, 4 point, 8 point game where you're wondering, like, why did I start Jacquery Grosky Merit.

[Alfredo Brown]

I just. If they're going to be trailing, if they're going to be struggling with Marcus Mariota, he's essentially a zero in the passing game, and that's the biggest struggle for me. It's. I don't see the offense getting into red zone scenarios where he's going to have a lot of goal line attempts, and even those tend to go to Chris Rodriguez as being the bigger thumper in the backfield. It's kind of like you have this. You just have this explosive player, and it's like the reverse Hannah Montana. You have the worst of both worlds. Like, he's not the big guy that's gonna get Dave. Look that up. I know you don't know that reference. He's. He's. Come on, man. Dave was born at 38 years old. Just. Just came out the womb, mustache ready to go. He's like, give me my Yorgos smorgasbord movies immediately as a baby.

[Dave Kluge]

You know, I did feel a little bit of an outcast as a kid. I don't know why. I just didn't like Disney Channel stuff. Like, all my friends were watching, even Stevens and all that. And like, I was more.

[Alfredo Brown]

That's your boy. It's Shia.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, Yeah, I know. I. I was more of like a red and stimpy guy as a little kid.

[Alfredo Brown]

You. Oh, you would.

[Dave Kluge]

I loved Running Stimulus, the Cowardly Dog. Like, I like, like the gross, weird cartoons as a kid.

[Alfredo Brown]

No, not at all. Not at all. That stuff would come on. I'm turning the TV off. I'm going outside. I'm. I'm touching grass as a child. But yeah, okay, back to. Back to the Jacoi Crosky Merit. It's just, he has the worst of both worlds here, where he's not really the big goal line back that's likely to get the goal line stuff. He's not the pass catcher. It's all the same concerns that we had at the beginning of the year. But now you just remove Jaden Daniels on a good offense from the equation and you're just like, oh man, we have all the same concerns of a three man backfield but the offense is bat. It's just, it's just, it's just not great. It's just not my confidence.

[Dave Kluge]

It's not just Jaden Daniels. It's Jaden Daniels, Terry McLaurin, Luke McCaffrey, Debo Sanders.

[Alfredo Brown]

Luke McCaffrey is the needle mover.

[Dave Kluge]

I mean really though, like Luke McCaffrey was having a solid year and now they're going down to like who Chris Moore is going to be like one of their leading receivers.

[Alfredo Brown]

Your dynasty brain is. Your dynasty brain is itching right now.

[Dave Kluge]

I'm just saying like there is nothing promising happening right now in this Washington offense. So like, I mean I'm looking right now I've got Debo Samuel ranked as, you know, a wide receiver. 3. Outside of that, it's Chris Moore. Jalen Lane trailing Burks was activated to the 53 man roster. Like this is the state of the Washington Commanders right now. Is the trailin Burks is going to be a part of their offensive game plan going into week 10.

[Alfredo Brown]

Pig Suey. Let's see it. Trailenbergs. There's a couple other guys from this tier that I want to talk about and they're, they're ranked pretty similarly to Jakori Crosby. Merritt. RJ Harvey is a guy I've got well ahead of Jakori Crosky, Merritt.

[Dave Kluge]

Dave, it's just one spot ahead.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, okay, I've got him. I think it's. Yeah, you gotta count it. I got him like five or six spots ahead. It's the faith is, is not there for bill, but with RJ Harvey, he's going up against the Las Vegas Raiders. Three running backs have scored at least 12 PPR points in the last two games against Las Vegas. One of them being Rashard Smith. Similar skill set being a pass catcher. A guy who's in a timeshare. Now RJ Harvey, he's got touchdowns last three games in a row. I don't necessarily want to chase that. And we never tell our audience to chase touchdowns for points, but these touchdowns are being scored in different ways. It's not like he's falling into the end zone. He's getting these long runs or these long receptions, creative usage out in space. Things where the team is actually trying to use him. Now I know that the role has not expanded in any great way, but this is also a game where the Broncos could make it a just complete blowout and be able just to destroy the Raiders in this game in Each of the Broncos two blowouts this year, weeks four and weeks eight. R.J. harvey was a top 15 fantasy running back. I'm not saying that that that correlation is going to just lead to okay, blowout means RJ Harvey has to be a top 15 running back. But I'm saying if they have a heavy lead, I could see a world where J.K. dobbins comes off the field and they're saying, okay, let's get you some rest. Let's give RJ Harvey some more reps. We really haven't been able to do that throughout this year. So RJ Harvey, I think becomes a very interesting. I don't have him quite as an RB2, but he becomes a very interesting high up three flex play for me.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, the I'm looking right now, the highest snapshare RJ Harvey saw in this entire season was in week four when they played Cincinnati and they just put him in a bag by halftime. They won that game 28 to 3. But even then, like that was like the most usage, the most snaps that we saw from RJ Harvey. 14 carries, five targets, like I would love to see that. But still just 40% of the snaps. And this is just Sean Payton just annoying the crap out of us with how he is going to deploy the personnel here. So I, I, I get what you're saying. Like there, there is a lot of upside here. He's been running hot on touchdowns and the game should work in his favor. I think he makes for, you know, if you're looking for upside in that RB3 spot, he's giving you a lot more upside than a lot of these other guys here where, you know, if you're starting Jacqui Crosby, Merritt, Alvin Kamara, Woody Marks, Devin Singletary, I'm not sure if there is any upside with those guys. You're like, I was gonna say that you can get 7, 8, 9 points where RJ Harvey, good offense, explosive player, good game script. You know, he's the one guy in this tier that could end up finishing realistically. It's like an RB one on the weekend.

[Alfredo Brown]

So I have both RJ Harvey and the other guy I want to talk about is Woody Marks. I have them both ahead of Alvin Kamara and Jakori Crosky Merritt this week and Woody Marks going up against Jacksonville. I mean he's had at least 12 and a half PPR points in three of his last four games. There's a role that's there. Devin Lloyd looks like he might still be out for Jacksonville and while they're decent stopping the run. They do allow pass catching running backs to be able to score. We just saw Ashton Ginty get his big five reception, 47 yards and a touchdown in that game. Game wasn't able to run very well. But also with the Texans, C.J. stroud. Look, it's, it's, it's official, right? I want to confirm it's official. He will be out for this game.

[Dave Kluge]

Davis Mills week.

[Alfredo Brown]

Davis Mills being in there. I mean, expect the checkdowns to Woody Marks.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, I mean we, we did see him doing that quite a bit back when he was the starter. We'll talk about it more when we flip over to the wide receivers. But I do have some concerns about Nico Collins with Davis Mills because we have seen that song in dance before. So I think just like as a whole I'm a little bit nervous about what Davis Mills is going to look like, but we do know that he checks down to running backs frequent. So Marks. I don't think he has the same ceiling as RJ Harvey, but probably, you know, we talk about RJ Harvey as the, the biggest ceiling play in this tier. I think Woody Marks, because of his abilities as a pass catcher probably gives you the highest floor.

[Alfredo Brown]

Let's go to the last tier here and we'll round out the running backs. It's Bam Knight, Jordan Mason, Nick Chubb, Isaiah Davis, Terrell Jennings, Blake Corum, Chuba Hubbard, Bashel Tutin, Dave. I think out of this group, the two guys that stand out the most, maybe three. I mean it just kind of depends. It's Isaiah Davis, Terrell Jennings, Blake Corum, like those three all together. I don't know if, if I have the Webbles to start any of these three guys but if you are in a pinch and you really need a flex play, I think there are worse players to start.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, Isaiah Davis is the one that jumps out to me that I'd be happy starting like we saw him prior to the buy Breeze hall was still healthy and Isaiah Davis still got 100 yards in that matchup. I mean he is a good player. We have heard Aaron Glenn all year talking about how he wants a split backfield and you don't. I don't think we give enough grace to first year head coaches, first year play callers, first year offensive coordinators. Like we expect them to just come out and do all of the right things. I think we're in the heat of the moment. It is really, really hard. And like I think Jameson Williams, you know, I was on the couch with Sigmund Bloom the other day and we were talking about this John Morton, like, I don't think that he has a vendetta against Jameson Williams and said, like, I'm not going to get plays to him. It's just that he's never called plays before. And it's really easy in the off season to say we want this guy to be involved. It's a lot harder to draw up plays to get the ball to him. When you're in the heat of the moment, you've got 35 seconds, make a decision on what the play call is going to be. And I think that's kind of what happened with Aaron Glenn over the first half of the season, is that he wanted a split backfield. And when you're in the heat of the moment, it's like, hey, Breeze, Hall's running well, let's just keep him on the field. But I think as he matures as a head coach and once this offense kind of finds its identity a little bit, I think we will see more of a split backfield. And that's why both you and I are a little bit lower on Bree hall and higher on Isaiah Davis. I think we just continue to see that usage tighten up between now and the end of the year.

[Alfredo Brown]

It feels like there's a, I don't want to say, like, over, like this sweeping change in the NFL. Brandon Bean was talking about it yesterday about, like so many trades happening because these young gms want to come in and act like it's Madden and there's. I. I do feel like there is a different vibe amongst coaches coordinators where they're almost too refreshingly honest. Like, hearing Aaron Glenn talk about, like, I'm going to talk to, to other coaches to see how they dealt with starting 0 and 6 or how they dealt with split back. Like, and just. We don't normally hear that. Like, that was a big thing that people liked about Mike McDaniels and then Mike McDaniel. Excuse me. Then when you start losing, they don't find it all that refreshing anymore. They just find it annoying. Aaron Glenn got the cheat code. He just started losing first and then acted like this. And we're like, oh, it's just the jets. Right? Like, it feels like that's just all that's happening.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And I think it is kind of refreshing, like the, the honesty. But every coach is a little bit different. We talked about this, like, Liam Cohen is a new coach and he. I don't want to say he's dishonest, but he Just doesn't share anything that he doesn't have to. Like, he's going to keep his cards closer to the chess. And I think Aaron Glenn, coming from the Dan Campbell coaching tree, he is going to have that brutal honesty and just, you know, say how he feels. And Ben Johnson does that as well. Like Ben Johnson coming from Dan Campbell, he's not a guy who's trying to hide stuff. I will say with Aaron Jones or Aaron Glenn, the one funny thing is, like, he'll be honest about a lot of other st. I love that he keeps with this bit every single week. Like, we don't know if it's gonna be Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor, you know, we wanna.

[Alfredo Brown]

So good.

[Dave Kluge]

We want to try to trick the other team. It's like we don't care who the quarterback is.

[Alfredo Brown]

It feels like the parent that's just telling really bad white lies to their kid. And like, it just. He just does that to the media every single week. And we're like, no, no, we. We know, man.

[Dave Kluge]

We know. You're not tripping any of us.

[Alfredo Brown]

We know. Yeah, I don't know if you're good. Maybe we'll get McDonald's on the way home from soccer practice. It's like, yeah, don't worry. I know we're getting McDonald's. You don'. Lunch for me.

[Dave Kluge]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first.

[Alfredo Brown]

There, the last one.

[Dave Kluge]

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[Alfredo Brown]

All right, let's go to the wide receivers here. We'll hop into these tiers and we'll kind of fly through these first ones. Except there's going to be a few players I know we want to talk about. So let's start off. Receivers 1 through 7. Pukinakua, Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Amano, St. Brown, Drake, London, Devonte Adams, Justin Jefferson and A. Mecca Igbuka. Dave, I don't think there's anything there. Just start these Players.

[Dave Kluge]

Drake London is the one that I think, you know, we should have a conversation about at least Sauce Gardner going over to Indiana. He is going. Or Indianapolis. He is.

[Alfredo Brown]

I'll say. I'll say. Sauce Garner is still in concussion protocol. This game is in Berlin. It's.

[Dave Kluge]

I thought I saw this morning that he was practicing. I could be wrong.

[Alfredo Brown]

And also, am I. I. Am I freaking out here? No. The Colts are playing the Seahawks. So it's not Drake London you're talking about. Jsn.

[Dave Kluge]

Drake London is playing against the Colts, and the Colts traded for Sauce Gardner.

[Alfredo Brown]

Well, I'll have to double check this.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, I'm looking right now. The. Yeah, it's. Atlanta plays at Indianapolis, and that's where Sauce Gardner is now. Yeah. And. And they just came out this morning. They said Sauce Gardner cleared concussion protocol and is ready to play. So I. I think, you know, I want to talk about it. You're still starting. Starting Drake London. And. And I think there's a lot of concern about Sauce Gardner, but Drake London, his best traits are as a contested catch passer. So I'm not too concerned here because that's where Sauce does struggle a little bit. He is more of, like, a finesse defensive back. Like, he is going to stick close to a guy, but when it comes to ball skills, when it comes to size, when it comes to physicality, I think Drake London has the edge here. So I know there's some people, like, getting moderately concerned about pushing Drake London down into, like, the wide receiver 2 range. I'm still firing Drake London up. Like, I don't have any concern about this. He's my wide receiver four on the week. Even with Sauce on him.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, that's on me. My bad. I was looking. Wrong matchup. I had them right next to each other in my rankings, and I was seeing the wrong matchups there.

[Dave Kluge]

It takes me, like, a month to remember trades, too. Like that. That's always like, you know, that's not the trade.

[Alfredo Brown]

It was just like, I had the matchups next to each other on the spreadsheet. I'm like, wait, wait a sec. And I started to just brain fart there. So. Okay. I was not aware of the Sauce Garner update, though, in concussion protocol, so that'll be good.

[Dave Kluge]

Right before we started recording, it came out that he cleared concussion protocol. So he's a good D back. But I think, like, you know, he's. He's much better against the. The finesse guys. You know, like, I'd be worried more about, like, him covering a tyree kill or something like that.

[Alfredo Brown]

Also don't know how much he's gonna play.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, that's too like, he's got to get up to the speed with the playbook and all that sort of stuff. So Drake London, what I'm getting at, still a top five wide receiver for me, like, he has just turned it on over the last couple of weeks. We saw him with that kind of slow, not even start because week one was big. But then he had that stretch from like week two to week five where he wasn't really performing that well. He was struggling with that shoulder injury. But he's back right now. Michael Penix is peppering him with targets. He's going to be able to come down with those contested catch opportunities. He is still an elite wide receiver regardless of the matchup up.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, and with Drake London too, it's. He's moving all over the lineup. Like last week, a lot of the talk was, oh, he's gonna have Christian Gonzalez on him. So get ready to be shut down.

[Dave Kluge]

Gets Sauce isn't going to follow him into the slot. Exactly. And that's what. Yeah, he's like, Sauce isn't following Drake London when he gets kicked into the slot. So they move him around to get him the matchups that they want, regardless.

[Alfredo Brown]

All right, let's go to the second tier here where I'm sure we're gonna have some players we need to talk about. Here at wide receiver 8 through 16, we got Nico Collins, Jalen Waddle, Zay Flowers, Roma Dunes, a lot. McConkey, A.J. brown, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Michael Pittman Jr. Dave, who stands out to you?

[Dave Kluge]

I mean, we've talked about it so much. It's like wide receivers are just bad this year once you get past the top tier. Like, and that, like, when I'm looking at this tier the way that we have it ranked, like, there isn't a huge gap between Nico Collins and like Tedro McMillan, who we have ranked like 15 spots below. Like, this is just so tight once you get out of the elite tier this year. So Nico Collins is the one I want to talk a little bit because we knew for years that Nico Collins was a good player when he was playing with Davis Mills. And the problem was, like, all of the underlying metrics were elite yards per route run, all of that sort of stuff that we care about. But the problem was Davis Mills and the uncatchable target rate and the sacks that he was taking and all the problems with Davis Mills. So we saw the huge Nico Collins breakout two years ago when C.J. stroud got drafted. And that was like, finally we have a quarterback that can unlock Nico Collins. And it's been good ever since. But this is one where, like, I'm still ranking him high because we know the big play upside is there. But this is one where I think of all the players in this tier, he's probably the one that scares me most.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, I can get that. I think Roma Dunze also with the, the target volume up and down, the drops that you've been talking about as.

[Dave Kluge]

Well, like, those things were on social media. Have you seen all that stuff going on?

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah. If you could you explain for. For people. Because I know he was talking about out but wanting a trade to a team that's actually going to throw him the ball. Right?

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. Coming off of a game that they won in emphatic way, like one of the best wins the Bears have had in recent history. Roma Dunes A has two bad drops in that game. Like, one was a drop in the end zone, another was a drop on a trick play from Cole Comet. And then James the Dunes, his dad gets on Twitter.

[Alfredo Brown]

Come on, Jimmy.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, Late at night, you know, there are a lot of, you know, came home from the bar and started tweeting, but, you know, saying that his son needs to be traded, go to a team that's going to use him, blah, blah, blah. And it sucks for Roma Dunes A because he is a fan favorite. Like Bears fans love Roma Dunes A. But then once your dad comes out and starts talking this sort of mess on social media, then everybody starts putting compilations together of every miscue that Roma Dunes has had this year. And now it's like the fan base has turned on Roma Dunes A because of his dad. Like, if I'm Roman Room, I'm going to my dad's house and I'm taking his phone and I'm flushing it down the toilet. Like, he has done nothing good for his public image over the last week.

[Alfredo Brown]

Isn't that just Bears fans though, too? Like, you could just say like one thing that mildly upsets three people and the Bears fans have turned on you.

[Dave Kluge]

And I, I get it. Like, Rome was coming off of a good game and I don't think or off of a bad game. I don't think anybody was panicking about it. But now you have Bears fans that are going out of their way to pro prove Roma Dunes dad wrong. And by doing that, they basically have to say, look how bad your son has been this year. So they're ignoring the Big plays. They're ignoring touchdowns and the first downs and they're highlighting the drops and the miscues and all this sort of stuff. So I don't know how this is going to like work into Rome's psyche. Like, how does he feel now that like the entire fan base has just spent the last week clowning on him? Are they going to make more of an effort to get him the ball? Is he going to get fit? Like, I don't know what's going to happen here, but yeah, Roma Dunes A was like we were talking about him as a top five wide receiver through the first month of the season and since the buy, it has not been very good.

[Alfredo Brown]

I think he's somewhere in between where he's been the last few weeks and where he was the first few weeks and it's probably going to have him somewhere around a top 15 wide receiver. And honestly, that was the expectation for people if he was going to break out.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, nobody talked about Rome being a top three guy. We were like, this guy could be a high end wide receiver too, if the chips fall. Right.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, like it's the expectations. He was getting drafted around like wide receiver 30 and we're like, man, if he breaks out, he's a top 15 wide receiver and then he went to top five and now we're like, man, and he's just not good. He's giving us top 24 wide receiver production. It's not like you drafted him to be something different. So it's. Yeah, I think, I think the most actionable thing here is just keep starting. Like there's nothing that changes in this more actionable.

[Dave Kluge]

I'd say buy low because somebody might be panicking off that zero point performance and you might be able to get him for way cheaper than his medium outcome where, you know, I'm still looking at him as a, as a top 15 guy rest of season.

[Alfredo Brown]

Dave, next guy that I want to talk about that's in this. Actually, let's go to the next tier and it's wide receivers 17 through 22. Devonte Smith, Steph Diggs, Tedro McMillan, Chris Olave, DK Metcalf, Courtland Sutton. And I want to bring up Chris Olave because I've got him a little bit higher than you do. I've got him as a high end wide receiver too. A lot of this. I was a little bit worried after last week where he wasn't seeing the same target volume with Tyler Shock going up against the Rams this week. He's got Carolina and I Think there's still plenty of reason to be worried, especially if he gets lined up against J.C. horn. The difference with Chris Olave, though is that he was doing a lot of what Drake London has been doing, a lot of what Devonte Smith got to do last year in this Kellen Moore offense. He's been running out of the slot a ton and I am curious to see what they do here, especially after trading away Rashid Shahid. We could be getting a few other different guys out there on the field. I know Brandon Cook's probably gonna see a little bit more playing time, but. But Chris Olave, that target volume has to go back up. Maybe, maybe it's not the 10 or 12 targets a game like he was doing before, but I don't have that same fear I did last week after seeing four targets.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, and. And I think this is just more of a low volume offense in general. Like, we talk so much about Spencer Rattler. He's just a gunslinger. He's going to throw the ball whenever he can, even when he shouldn't. I think Tyler Schuck is going to be a little bit more conservative. So that's one of the reasons it's.

[Alfredo Brown]

Crazy because that's not who Shuck was coming out of Louisville. He was the exact opposite. He was Waymus Jinstown ready to go in there and throw that ball 75 yards on every play.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And maybe he'll get there as he acclimates to the NFL and gets a little bit more comfortable, but we're just not seeing it yet. And I think like the. The departure of Rashid Shahid, as our friend Chris Harris likes to say, you know, there's a crutch argument that can be made either way. You can say Rashid Shahid's gone, so all of the volume is going to him. Or you could say, well, Rashid Shahid's gone now. There's no other threat and they're going to key in on him. So you can kind of make the argument either way for Chris Alabe, but at the end of the day, it's just Tyler Schuck is the one that concerns me a little bit. JC Horn lining up on him. I think you're still starting Chris Alabe. Chris Alave with Spencer Rattler was a lot more fun than Chris Alave with Tyler Schuck.

[Alfredo Brown]

I think it remains to be seen. We've seen one game and like a quarter and a half, two quarters.

[Dave Kluge]

Right.

[Alfredo Brown]

I. I want to give you talk. We talk about giving these players grace. Like I want to give them more than six quarters of football before I can say that. Sure, the offense isn't as good, but it's not like it was good before. We saw with Tyler Schuck coming in second half of that first game, he was peppering Chris Olava and Rashid Shahid with Tom Targets. Now it's basically just going to be Chris Olave and Joanne Johnson. Then whatever's left is going to the guys like Brandon Cooks and Devon Vale, who's now going to be a player on the outside, big bodied wide receiver who they'll probably throw a few passes up for. But yeah, I'm not like, I'm not as worried as feeling as bad as I was about Chris Olave last week prior to the trade, I had a.

[Dave Kluge]

Random thought, I need to look up the compensation now. But memory serves correct. I think the Saints gave up more to trade for Devon Bailey than they got not for Rashid Shahid. Is that right?

[Alfredo Brown]

I'll have to look that up.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah.

[Alfredo Brown]

For Devon Vale.

[Dave Kluge]

I thought they gave up two picks for Vale. I could be wrong. Somebody in the YouTube comments will let us know. I can't look it up right now, but I remember that being like a huge overpay at the time. And then when Rashid got traded, I'm like, seems like they could have got more than that.

[Alfredo Brown]

Well, Rashid was traded for what, a fifth?

[Dave Kluge]

Looking it up right now. Rashid Shahid trade. I don't know, man. I should have prepped for this beforehand. I'm talking.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Broncos received a fourth and a seventh for Devon Vale, a guy who has played almost nothing this year.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And a fourth and a fifth for Rashid Shahid. So, I mean, like, very similar draft compensations. And I don't know about you, but I would much prefer Rashid Shahid.

[Alfredo Brown]

Okay. So essentially they ended up. They ended up with Devon Vale and they turned a seventh into a fifth.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Fifth.

[Dave Kluge]

Yikes.

[Alfredo Brown]

And they got rid of Rashid.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alfredo Brown]

Okay. Okay. Anyways, let's. Let's keep going through here. We just. We just haven't talked enough about the sleepers that we want to talk about in this episode. So let's do that. Let's go down to the next tier. These are wide receivers, 23 through 30. This is where the decisions start to get a little more challenging here, Dave. So at 23, we've got Juwan Jennings, DJ Moore, Wandell Robinson, Romeo Dobbs, Jameson Williams, Keenan Allen, Jordan Addison and Debo Samuel Muelle, who from this tier is a guy that you want to start as a sleeper this week.

[Dave Kluge]

Jameson Williams, like Please tell me this is it. Like Washington commanders are giving up so many points to opposing wide receivers. And we saw it like coming out of the buy. There was all of this talk, like you saw John Morton just like pouring his heart out. Just like, I have failed you, Jameson. I could not have been like more dramatic with talking about his usage of dreams.

[Alfredo Brown]

God, I wish you watched anything. I wish I could make a Star wars reference right now. As long as people in the comments. Man, Obi Wan, I failed you, Anakin. No, no, I get that.

[Dave Kluge]

Watch a movie. Yeah, I, I get Star Wars. Star wars is like one of the, the few that I watch. You heard of it again? Like the, the nine. Like I'll watch the nine movies. I'm not watching all the spin off TV shows. And like, you know, the, the nine OG movies. That's where I draw the line. I don't want to get into the universe anymore.

[Alfredo Brown]

Don't do that. There's not nine OG movies.

[Dave Kluge]

What do you mean? What do I not know? I thought there were nine original movies.

[Alfredo Brown]

We don't really sequel movies, Dave.

[Dave Kluge]

You're talking about like the, the 90s, early 2000s, the, the Natalie Portman ones. You don't count those?

[Alfredo Brown]

No, those are prequels, David. Oh my God. Okay, everyone strap in here. Okay. The first original trilogy came out in 1976.

[Dave Kluge]

And then I believed it in like child. Yes, yes.

[Alfredo Brown]

And then I believe in like 81.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alfredo Brown]

Then they came back years and years later in like 1999 with episode one, two and three. The prequels recently, like eight years ago was. Or maybe less is when they did the sequels. And that was episodes. Well, Rogue One is a side side like story.

[Dave Kluge]

I don't know anything.

[Alfredo Brown]

Rogue One takes place in between episodes three and four. It leads directly into the beginning of, of episode four.

[Dave Kluge]

All right.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yes. This is what people come to this show for. It's the Dave Kluge education on Star Wars. Yeah, just don't, don't, don't watch the, the recent ones. That's all I'm getting at. Don't, don't count them in there.

[Dave Kluge]

So, yeah, Jam Williams has been failed by John Morton, and we didn't see any of that come to fruition in the first half of the game. But in the second half of the game they're like, oh, yeah, that's right. Jameson Williams. We failed him. We need to get him the ball. And what does he do? He makes one of the most spectacular plays that we've seen this entire season. Like catching the ball. Tiptoeing down the sidelines, stretching out, taking the pylon out and like that's what Jameson Williams can do. So like I hope going up against Washington, giving up the six most points to wide receivers than any team out there right now. I hope this is another game where they can get Jamison Williams going, get his confidence going. Realizing that when you have that deep threat, it opens up everything else for Amon Ra and the running backs and Sam Laporta and all that. Like this is an offense that should be able to attack at every level and Jameson Williams needs to be a part of that. So I hope, hope that continues rolling over into this week.

[Alfredo Brown]

I'm going to talk about two guys here. One is just really simple. Wandell Robinson should be starting each week. I mean 11 targets last week, nine receptions. You may not get the big plays, you know, 100 yard games. It's, it's, it's going to look like nine receptions, 34 yards, maybe a touchdown if we get lucky. I'm just going to take the volume. Let's just take our chances on that volume every single week. Going up against Chicago, they're allowing the second most points to slot wide receivers. I think that's an easy one. One so flex him in your lineup or you can even put him in as a wide receiver. Three, depending on how your your starting lineup is formatted. The other guy is Romeo Dobbs. Like Dave, you and I, we've been here for a little while. Going up against Philly, they are pretty. They're giving up a decent amount of points to outside wide receivers this year. And this also, I mean this, you can consider this also for Christian Watson as a guy who if you're really desperate at the wide receiver spot. But no Tucker Craft, no Matthew golden, no Jaden Reed. Roman Dobbs had a 26 target share of the last six games. Like he is dominating the targets there in Green bay. At least 13 PPR points in three of his last five games. I think you could start him easily this week.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. Last guy I'll talk about here is just Keenan Allen like slowly seeing that.

[Alfredo Brown]

Okay.

[Dave Kluge]

Roll dipping a little bit. Not even so much as a start, like more of a concern like I think you are still.

[Alfredo Brown]

I actually had Quentin Johnston as a start because of the Keenan Allen dip in usage.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And that's it. 25% of the snaps two weeks ago, 37% of the snaps last week. Those are both the lowest marks of the season. I just wonder as he's playing at this age if you know he doesn't want to be playing a full route share, which I totally understand, but not great for fantasy. He's always got the opportunity. Like, he's been getting big plays this year, which is good. We didn't see a lot of that in Chicago last year. Like, he's catching balls deep downfield. He still is a threat to get into the end zone. But I think, you know, we were talking about Keenan Allen earlier in the season when he was just like a lock for 60 yards and a touchdown. Every week is like a plug and play high end wide receiver, receiver two. Now he does kind of fall into that, like, shakier wide receiver. Three range for me and you. Yeah.

[Alfredo Brown]

I mean, Quentin Johnston, I think is an interesting guy out of this because going up against Pittsburgh, it's such a good matchup. It's such a good matchup. They did a little bit of that course Correction last week.

[Dave Kluge]

41 points per game to wide receivers. The Steelers are giving up this year. That's insane.

[Alfredo Brown]

And the Steelers did this thing where they just patchworked a bunch of old defensive backs in there. Jalen Ramsey, Darius Slay, guys who have just been either horribly inconsistent or just not very been good this year. And Joey Porter Jr. Has had his moments where he's been good, but in his moments where he's really struggled. This is just a good matchup. I, I want to get any Los Angeles Chargers wide receiver in my lineup. The only guy where I think I'm with you is. I have pause for concern. Is. Is Keenan Allen there?

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And like I said, you're probably still starting him because it's Keenan Allen and like, when he is on the field, he is drawing targets and he's drawing valuable targets, and he's still that guy.

[Alfredo Brown]

There's a lot of buys. There's. There's so many receivers we would normally play play.

[Dave Kluge]

The other thing, too, is just Joe Alt out for the season. Like, it has been a tale of two seasons for. But they got Trevor Penning and Trevor Penning is good. I mean, that's like. That was a big trade. I mean, it's, it's no Joe Ald, it's no Rashawn Slater, but it should help him out a little bit. But like, we saw a huge change in how good this Chargers team was like from the beginning of the year until Joe Alt had that injury. And then Joe Alt comes back and they immediately go back to being good again. So I do have some concerns about, about what the Chargers are going to look like for the rest of the season this, this week will. Will tell us a lot.

[Alfredo Brown]

Let's go down to the next tier. This is going to be wide receivers 31 through 40. And this is where I think people are making the toughest decisions. Going for some desperation flexes here. Let's start with Khalil Shakir, who, honestly, by all means, like, he could probably be a lot higher in our rankings. Just wondering, you know, how this guy.

[Dave Kluge]

Like, these two tiers are very, very tight. Like, I feel like you could shuffle all these players around and like, none of the viewers would know if, you know, like, all of these guys, like 23 to 40 are so, so tight.

[Alfredo Brown]

I'm looking at Cortland Sutton, who is the wide receiver, 19 in my rankings, and Christian Watson, who is the wide receiver 40 in my rankings. And I'm saying you're the same person. Listen.

[Dave Kluge]

And Troy Franklin. Insane. You're the same person.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say. Troy Franklin is one of these guys.

[Dave Kluge]

That I'm out targeting on the year.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yep. It's. He's out targeted court and Sutton each of the last two games. It's. There has just been a major role shift for Troy Franklin here going up against the Raiders. They allowing the sixth most fantasy points to wide receivers over the last four weeks. Here. It's just a good matchup. It's a player who's getting the volume. I know we've talked about it a million times before, but they have this chemistry. Bo Nix and Troy Franklin going all the way back to Oregon together when he's under duress. He's just. He know he and Troy Franklin know where to find each other. It's just an easy thing. Thing. Weren't they like roommates? Like best friends? Like, they call each other like their brothers, Almost like adoptive brothers here. Is that. Is that not a thing? Yeah. Okay, it is.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah. And. And they're different roles. Like, Cortland Sutton is more of the downfield guy now, where Troy Franklin is Michael Thomas in this offense. I really hate to say it.

[Alfredo Brown]

Stop doing that. Stop doing that. We did it last year. We're like Cortland Sutton, slant boy, court and slap. But now.

[Dave Kluge]

But now we're seeing a big change where, like Cortland Sutton, his routes are coming much deeper downfield. Like he is back to being pinned to the outside, you know, running a of vertical routes where Troy Franklin is getting those in breaking routes. He's running a ton of slots. And it's obviously not Michael Thomas, but a very similar role in this Offense where it's just like non stop, like almost every one of his runs is or every one of his routes is just an in breaking route where he catches the ball near the line of scrimmage and can make plays after the catch. So it's a valuable role. And we, we've seen some games where he's looked really good, other games where he struggled a little bit. I think that's just kind of the nature of a day three wide receiver. But he's pulling targets right now and he's a big part of this offense and like, yeah, you know, I, I, I, I should, we should probably have Troy Franklin and Cordon Sutton a little bit tighter in rankings given what we've seen this year.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, I mean you can make the excuse. Like we said, all these guys in this tier could all be somewhere around wide receiver 22 to 23. You just have to rank them somewhere. And like some of these guys, One of the guys I'm going to talk about right now, Tez Johnson going up against the New England Patriots. We just saw Drake London have a three touchdown game from the slot. Tez Johnson play plays on the outside a little bit as the Z and he'll also move into the slot. A Mechagbuco do the same too. But there is opportunity here in a game that like I said, if this Bucks Patriots game, we can see the ball get thrown a lot. Christian Gonzalez might end up shadowing a Mecca Igbuka, but he won't follow him down to the slot. So it'll be interesting to see how creative they can get with these wide receivers. But last two games average target share over 21 for Tess Johnson. The opportunities are there. Coming off the bottom high. This could actually be a pretty good matchup here. If you're starting three wide receivers, you need a flex. This all of a sudden becomes a guy you can stick into your lineup.

[Dave Kluge]

And it also doesn't look like Chris Godwin is coming back this year or this week, so.

[Alfredo Brown]

Right, yeah, sorry, that was a given to me.

[Dave Kluge]

Yeah, right, Yeah. I mean he hasn't practiced yet this week. Poor box man. Like all the talk has just been like they just need to get through this buy and then everything will be better. Well, they're through the bottom Wednesday. No Bucky Irving ring, no Chris Godwin. Like yeah, not feeling great about this situation at all. But yeah, I think Tez Johnson, you know, sky high ceiling there and you talk about like how again how tight this whole tier is. The other guy that like really jumps out to me Parker Washington, like if he finishes a top 15 wide receiver this week would not surprise me one bit. I think there's going to be so much volume going his way. I know we're excited about Jacoby Myers, but I think Jacoby Myers is probably gonna get slow rolled a little bit this week. I don't think we're gonna see him out there playing 100 of the snap. So Diami Brown is injured.

[Alfredo Brown]

Injured.

[Dave Kluge]

Travis Hunter is injured. Brian Thomas Jr. Is injured. There's like one guy out there that has chemistry with Trevor Lawrence and it's going to be Parker Washington. We've seen him play this role as the middle of the field guy very admirably this year. So we're ranking him I think responsibly but also so much upside. If you're starting Parker Washington this week.

[Alfredo Brown]

I'll also say those Colts wide receivers Alec Pierce and Josh Downs become really interesting. I know the Falcons have been a good pass defense. A.J. terrell is likely going to be on Michael Pittman in this game, which means we could be seeing even more targets going to Alec Pierce and Josh Downs in this. So those are guys that become high upside sleepers as well. High upside flexes. Excuse me.

[Dave Kluge]

There's another guy who's really high real quick, Alec Pierce. I just want to mention he's so primed for a boom game that we just haven't seen yet. Like he's the wide receiver, 41 in scoring right now last year. Alec Pierce on 69 targets. Yeah. Seven touchdowns this year. He has almost surpassed his target total. He's already, he's already at 45 touchdowns or 45 targets this year. Has not scored a touchdown yet. That's been Alec Pierce's bag his entire career is like there isn't volume here but he could always catch that big touchdown. This year he's getting the volume and he's not getting the touchdowns. But he's still in the same role pulling a 20 plus ADOT downfield. So Alec Pierce, getting him in my lineups where I have him, it seems like he's just primed for a boost. Boom game.

[Alfredo Brown]

Yeah, I mean he's. That's been his M.O. throughout his career. So it's weird that we haven't seen that. And a guy that I want, last guy I wanted to bring up is also someone who like we could see a boom game. It's. This is one of these. If you're really desperate, he's been on your roster anyways, maybe you find a way to get him into your Lineup, but it's Rashid Shahid for the Seattle Seahawks and I know it's going to be his first game over there, but we've seen that the Seahawks have a pension for wanting to throw the ball deep, set up the play action, deep pass. They are able to do it pretty well with Torrey Horton last game getting a couple touchdowns there. It's just you gotta think they make this trade for Rashid Sheet and they want to go show off the brand new shiny toy a little bit, get the fans excited, get the team excited. Even if he doesn't play a full allotment of snaps, I think there's going to be some design plays for Shahid to take the top off. That's why you go out and you get a player like this, you, you see what Tori Horton can do and you go, let's get a guy that's even more explosive and see what we can do there. Sam Darnold, when throwing deep 15 plus air yards, he ranks top five in yards per attempt, fantasy points, completion percentage, passer rating and touchdown passer rate. So Sam Darnold the deep ball king this year.

[Dave Kluge]

Last year Rashid Shahid in the first five games of the season. Remember the offensive coordinator last year for the Saints, now the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. I think this is a very intentional move. Rashid Shahid last year through the first five weeks had 70 plus receiving yards in four of those five games, he four killing touchdowns. Yeah, yeah. So I mean that to me is where we're really going. Like I think he might play a full allotment of snaps because he already was in the install last year. He knows the playbook, he knows what his routes, role is going to be. And we saw Rashid Shahid last year just torching defenses in this Clint Kubiak offense. So definitely not concerned about jsn. Like he's going to continue doing what he is going to do. But my goodness, like upgrading like Rashid Shahid can that. I think we're gonna see Cooper cup basically finishing out his time with Seattle as a glorified tight end, he's going to be blocking a lot and I think for she heated and Tori Horton like if you can get a three wide receiver set out there with Tori Horton, Rashid Shahid and jsn, I don't know how you possibly can defend that. One other thing I'll say jsn, there's a knock during the combine because he ran a slow 40 time. Well, I am so thankful that we live in this era where we have, you know, all of These. These ways to, like, measure speed on a field. And somebody pulled it out the other day that his top speed has gone up every single year that he has been in the league. And his estimated 40 time now, like, he is much faster now than he was when he came into the league. They're saying that he's got an estimated 40 time that would be like somewhere around 4, 3. So JSN got this, like, weird knock through the draft process for not being fast. Well, the data now backs it up that he's one of the fastest players out there.

[Alfredo Brown]

Keep going. In a couple years, It'll be at a 41 1. It'll. He's just going to keep getting faster and faster.

[Dave Kluge]

That's how it works. Yeah.

[Alfredo Brown]

Well, Dave, we did it, man. We went through all the running backs, the wide receivers, went through over 70 plus players here, and hopefully we gave all of you watching or listening, some sleepers, some flex plays, some guys that you can start this weekend in week 10. Really hope you guys can all come out with a win. Dave, we're gonna be back again on Monday giving our reaction and takeaways from week 10. And we'll do this all again. Waivers, trade targets this time. We're going to look at some playoff stashes next week. Dave will keep his stash for that episode. See what I did there? And then the week 11 starts in sleepers. So as always, I want to thank everybody for watching or listening all the way through for myself, for Dave. We'll see you next time. Adios.