Week 2 Matchup Preview with Hutchinson Brown || Fantasy Football 2025

Summary

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Footballguys Fantasy Football Show

Week 2 Matchup Preview with Hutchinson Brown

Hosts: Dave Kluge & Alfredo Brown
Guest: Hutchinson Brown
Date: September 12, 2025

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Overview

In this Week 2 preview episode, Dave Kluge is joined by rising fantasy football analyst Hutchinson Brown to break down some of the NFL’s most interesting fantasy matchups. The pair dive deep into six key games, focusing on emerging trends, early season surprises, and actionable advice to help you set winning lineups. The conversation blends sharp football analysis with honest reactions to early 2025 NFL developments, giving listeners plenty of player-specific nuggets and bold takes.

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Key Matchups & Insights

[01:34] Jacksonville Jaguars at Cincinnati Bengals

Travis Hunter’s Dual Role & Fantasy Impact (02:09 – 03:02)

• Hunter’s usage: Only 6 catches for 33 yards in Week 1, mostly running short routes. Reports say he'll play more defense in Week 2, but that doesn’t necessarily mean fewer offensive snaps.
  • Hutch: “They could keep both. So honestly, Travis Hunter, for me... I'm not expecting huge things for Hunter in week two. I look at him as a decent flex play in a potentially high scoring game.” (02:55)
• Vegas projections: 49.5 yards, up from last week.
• Dave: “Even if he isn't playing a ton of offensive snaps... they’re going to manufacture touches to get the ball in his hand.”
• Consensus: Hunter is still a top-36 play with upside, but expectations should be tempered.

Brian Thomas Jr. Slow Start & ADP Concerns (03:50 – 05:34)

• Week 1: 1 catch on 7 targets, plus a rushing TD. Surprising given lofty preseason ADP (top 6 WR).
  • Hutch: “Wacky things happen all the time [in Week 1]. Week two is a nice reset...but I got my eyebrow twitch.”
• Dynasty Advice: He's a hold, unless you can find someone panicking and selling for non-elite WR prices.

Bengals Backfield – Chase Brown's Workload (06:10 – 07:49)

• Chase Brown: Dominated backfield snaps, but low efficiency; compared to Kyren Williams as a “volume RB2, maybe low-end RB1 depending on TDs/receiving work.”
  • Hutch: “It might just be a little gross, though, because last week did not look good.”

Bengals Tight Ends Split Duties (07:49 – 08:31)

• Mike Gesicki & Noah Fant: “Not going to be anywhere close to predictable… not rosterable.” (08:04 – Hutch)
• Better for deep streaming only if injuries occur to Higgins & Fant.

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[09:18] Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions

Bears WR1 Debate: DJ Moore vs. Rome Odunze (09:18 – 11:34)

• DJ Moore: Still the top option per both hosts, despite a missed deep catch (effort criticized).
  • Hutch: “If DJ Moore had that one deep catch, we wouldn’t even be talking about who’s WR1 in Chicago.” (09:18)
• Odunze: 9 targets and a TD in Week 1; worth watching as a breakout candidate.
• Caleb Williams analysis: Displayed flashes but needs to settle down into the offense.

Bears Rookie TE Colston Loveland (11:34 – 13:36)

• Underwhelming debut, but not a drop candidate.
  • Hutch: “He’s probably more of a stash. I wouldn’t drop him though...” (13:05)
  • Cited Amon-Ra St. Brown as a historical rookie patience comp.

Lions’ Offensive Drop-off & Laporta Usage (13:36 – 17:36)

• Detroit offense suffered after losing OC Ben Johnson and others; disappointed in Week 1.
  • Hutch: “I have a really hard time believing an offense with that much talent is going to be a complete bust…” (14:20)
• Sam LaPorta’s 9 targets: Watch for regression as Isaac Tesla and Jameson Williams earn more work.
• Isaac Tesla: Only 3 routes but scored on a circus catch. Dan Campbell says he’ll see more action.

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[17:36] Patriots at Dolphins

Patriots WR Room: Diggs, Douglas, or Boutte? (17:36 – 19:36)

• Demario Douglas: Not the answer; “all offseason hype, no results.”
• Diggs: Reliable but low-upside; short-area chain-mover.
• Kayshon Boutte: High-risk, high-reward deep-play threat.
  • Hutch: “If you have a lot of injuries, I’d prefer Diggs for safety. If you want upside, go with Boutte.”

Patriots Backfield Split (19:41 – 21:21)

• Clear 50/50 committee with Stevenson and TreVeyon Henderson; Gibson sprinkled in.
• Henderson (rookie): Flashed explosiveness, could take over soon if Stevenson continues to be pedestrian.
  • “Ramondre Stevenson... just looked like a rock, man.” (20:27)
  • Expect increasing workload for Henderson as the year goes on.

Tyreek Hill & Dolphins Meltdown (22:04 – 24:34)

• Hill's offseason red flags catching up; hosts are out for Week 2 (“benchable,” especially with WRs like Ridley, Pickens, Samuel, or Keenan Allen as options).
  • Dave: “I was completely out...He was basically off my draft board.” (22:04)

Devon Achane’s Role (25:04 – 26:00)

• With WR injuries, Achane becomes offensive engine:
  • “He’s just that good. You’re starting him as an RB1, but it’s a gross offense.” (25:14 – Hutch)

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[26:13] Buffalo Bills at New York Jets

Keon Coleman Year 2 Breakout (26:13 – 26:51)

• Improved separation and route running, dependable on key downs.
  • Hutch: “He created double the separation week one that he did in year one...he looked explosive off the line.”
• Year 2 breakout hype is real.

James Cook's Value (26:51 – 29:36)

• Clear RB1 in Buffalo, continues productive role with 5 targets in Week 1.
  • Dave: Noted how ADP fails to adjust as fast as it should when news breaks.
  • Consensus: James Cook was “a little cheap” in drafts; ride with him.

Justin Fields as a Top Fantasy QB (30:06 – 31:49)

• Only Allen, Lamar, Hurts, maybe Jayden Daniels ahead ROS (“rest of season”). Strong endorsement for Fields.
  • Hutch: “Pre-draft, he was my QB6...after this week, I’m even more confident.”

Jets Backfield Clarity – Breece Hall Show (32:25 – 34:27)

• Preseason RBBC fears overblown; Hall dominated, showed contract-year motivation. Braylon Allen a “nice stash,” but this is Hall’s backfield.

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[34:47] Denver Broncos at Indianapolis Colts

Bo Nix Struggles (35:06 – 36:14)

• Looked messy and dangerous with ball security issues.
  • Hutch: “He was just messy all game long… I wouldn’t make any concrete conclusions yet, just keep a close eye.”

Evan Engram Panic? (37:14 – 38:44)

• Injured in Week 1 but could bounce back; not droppable yet.

Colts’ Tyler Warren – TE Outlook (40:46 – 41:15)

• One of the very few TEs worth starting over the rest of season, alongside Brock Bowers and Trey McBride.
  • Hutch: “He’s an absolute superstar… going to be the number one target on this team this year.”

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[41:56] Philadelphia Eagles at Kansas City Chiefs

AJ Brown's Worrisome Start (41:56 – 43:14)

• Low involvement, possible injury, and increased usage of Dallas Goedert and Saquon Barkley.
  • Hutch: “He needs to get the book back out… there's a slight bit of me that is concerned for AJ Brown for fantasy.”
• Hosts praise A.J. Brown’s newfound maturity (44:15 – 44:28): “That humility, the maturity...was incredible.”

Devonta Smith Opportunity (45:06 – 45:45)

• If Brown/Goddert are limited, expect Smith to be a WR1 against KC’s man-heavy D. Saquon Barkley also a big receiving beneficiary.

Chiefs Backfield – Pacheco vs. Hunt (46:03 – 46:59)

• Pacheco looked better than Hunt but is game-script dependent. Buy low if possible, but “put Pacheco on your bench if you can.”
• Hunt’s pass-blocking gives him an edge in catch-up or 2-minute drills.

Hollywood Brown as a Startable Flex (47:42 – 49:36)

• Both sides debate his viability; likely lower target volume, especially if Chiefs retool WR rotation.
  • Hutch: “Not saying Marquis Brown's going to be [a] 16 targets or 10 receptions kind of guy, but I would expect him to be the wide receiver one.”
  • Dave: “I think Hollywood Brown was forced into a role...[and] I don’t know if that’s a role I want to see Marquise Brown in.”

Travis Kelce Panic? (49:36 – 50:45)

• Kelsey’s lowest target share since 2017 even with key injuries; hosts fear he "looks slow, looks like a 35-year-old tight end." Derwin James matchup also hampered Kelsey’s output.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On patience after Week 1:

  "Week one is week one. Wacky things happen all the time. I think this week two is a nice reset."
  -- Hutch (03:50)

• On quick WR production judgments:

  "I'm not panicking yet because week one is week one. Wacky things happen all the time."
  -- Hutch (03:50)

• On Keon Coleman's breakout:

  "He created double the separation week one that he did in year one."
  -- Hutch (26:13)

• On Tyreek Hill's start:

  "All the offseason reports were negative or neutral. Like there was nothing good coming out from Tyreek Hill in this Miami offense. I, I was completely out."
  -- Hutch (22:04)

• On Justin Fields job security:

  "When you see a player that can play that sort of game, they're not going to bench him for Tyrod Taylor."
  -- Dave (31:11)

• On Breece Hall's contract year:

  "It is. When you're trying to make your money, especially for the running back position, you don't always get a second contract."
  -- Hutch (33:21)

• On A.J. Brown’s new perspective:

  "If I'm controlling the game in that way where I'm letting other guys get the ball, I feel like I'm doing my job out there. And to me, that shows a huge step in maturity."
  -- Dave (43:14)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jacksonville @ Cincinnati breakdown: 01:34 – 08:31
• Chicago @ Detroit breakdown: 09:18 – 17:36
• Patriots @ Dolphins, Diggs/Backfield/Tyreek talk: 17:36 – 26:00
• Buffalo @ Jets, Keon Coleman/James Cook/Fields/Breece Hall: 26:13 – 34:27
• Denver @ Indy, Bo Nix/Evan Engram/Tyler Warren: 34:47 – 41:15
• Philly @ KC, A.J. Brown/Devonta/Chiefs RBs/Hollywood: 41:56 – 50:45
• Closing (fun takes, condiment hot take, socials): 51:38 – 53:00

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Tone & Style

The conversation is direct but relaxed, with a focus on actionable insights for fantasy players. The hosts balance optimism about underperformers with realism where concern is warranted, cementing takeaways with concrete data and swift “start/bench/cut” discussions. Player debates are opinionated, but framed supportively (“I’m with you,” “I agree”).

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Final Note

The episode wraps with a playful “hill to die on”—Hutch hates ketchup (“Ketchup is the worst condiment… Do not put ketchup on anything.” – 51:49)—and each host plugs their social channels and ongoing fantasy content.

Perfect for: Fantasy GMs needing sharp, pragmatic advice on early season lineup and roster decisions, with an eye for situational context and usage trends.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Launchpad. I'm Dave Klube. Guys, and we're going to do things a little bit differently in season. As much as I love hearing about guests coming up in the industry and learning about their process, I know your time is much more precious this time of year. So we're going to focus entirely on football. Every week I'll be joined by a Football Guy staffer to discuss some of the most intriguing matchups of the week. We'll give actionable advice to help you prep for your weekly matchups. And today I'm joined by Hutchison Brown. Hutch is a rising star in this industry. Just 19 years old and already with years of experience under his belt, he's got his own podcast, Hutch coming in clutch, and does a lot of work for us here at Football Guys. Today we're going to look at six matchups in week two that we will be paying extra close attention to. As always, this show would not be possible without you taking the time to listen. So thank you so much for tuning in today. Now let's dive in. Hutchinson Brown, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

[A]

Hey, Dave, what's going on, man? Good. How about yourself?

[B]

Doing good, man. This is a fun time of year. Like, you know, I've used the term so often this week, but it feels like we're just drinking out of a fire hose, like just trying to absorb all this NFL information. It has just been a crazy week of football. What I'm gonna do today, you know, I told you there's a handful of matchups that I think are really good matchups with a lot to watch and a lot to be be cognizant of this week. So I picked six matchups that I think we should be talking about a little bit. The first one being the Jacksonville Jaguars at the Cincinnati Bengals. And I'm sure you've seen the report that Travis Hunter is going to play more on defense this week, does that concern you at all, Hutch?

[A]

Yeah. I mean, look, he only went 6 for 33 last week. He was used a lot in the short area ranges of the field for as a receiver and 6 for 33. As much as you want to, you know, debate he might look great, that's just not going to get you fantasy points. And now we're looking at more defensive snapshots. And especially considering the Cincinnati Bengals, their high powered offense, it makes sense that you want to put Travis Hunter on defense, get some defensive players out there. However, I would just say this real quick before you get too concerned. More defensive snaps does not necessarily mean less offensive snaps. They could just be saying, hey, we liked him on offense, we also want to put him more on defense. Now let's get him in. They could keep both. So honestly, Travis Hunter, for me, looking at him 6 for 33 last week and Brian Summer Jr. Brian Thomas Jr. Is really struggling. I'm not expecting huge things for Hunter in week two. I look at him as a, like a decent flex play and a potentially high scoring game between Jacksonville and Cincinnati.

[B]

And for what, you know, weight you put into Vegas over unders, they're projecting him for about 49 and a half receiving yards, which would be a step up from what he did last week. So I'm kind of with you too. And even if he isn't playing a ton of offensive snaps, I do think that like, even if he's in a limited role on offense, they're not going to have him out there just running routes. I think that there's going to be manufactured touches to get the ball in his hand, allow him to create after the catch. So I'm with you there. I've still got him inside my top 36 this week and I just see the upside case for him. How about Brian Thomas Jr. Though? You know, we heard a lot about this one, two punch in Jacksonville. And outside of a rushing touchdown, which I don't think anybody had expected in week one, it was an otherwise quiet day for Brian Thomas. Just one catch on seven targets. Are we concerned now with Travis Hunter there that this could cut into his target share a little bit, maybe not help him live up to his adp?

[A]

Yeah, I mean he was drafted really high this year, you know, like a top six wide receiver. And if Travis Hunter continues to earn anywhere between six and eight targets a game, that's absolutely going to hurt because when you look at the offense last year Evan Ingram was really hurt. So we didn't see a consistent number two target for this Jacksonville offense very often and that led to Brian Thomas Jr. Especially when Mac Jones is playing to be a dominant target earner and it led him to score a lot of touchdowns, get a ton of yardage and score, skyrocket his ADP to where it was last year or I mean this year heading into this fantasy football season. I'm not panicking yet because week one is week one. Wacky things happen all the time. I think this we can. Week two is a nice reset. Just say, okay, what happens this week? Let's keep an eye on it. After we got all the little, little fuzzies and the shakes out of week one, right? I'm, I'm definitely a little. I got my eyebrow twitch though. I'm looking at him thinking, not feeling great about Travis Hunter getting super involved and Brian Thomas Jr. Having a really quiet week. But overall, I'm not panicking yet. He's still a wide receiver one for me.

[B]

So just to peel this back a little bit too, you talk about Evan Ingram being hurt down the stretch last year. That big blow up in production also came with Mac Jones. So if you've got Brian Thomas Jr. In fantasy right now, do you think there might be like a buy or a sell or a hold if you had to try to quantify him into one of those three buckets, what do you think you'd say Brian Thomas Jr. Is right now?

[A]

I think after week one, I think, unfortunately is a hold. I don't think anyone's going to go out buying aggressively for Brian Thomas after week one, especially given the excitement for Travis Hunter, given the fact that he had six catches. I don't think anyone's going out paying top five wide receiver dynasty prices for Thomas right now. So if you have him, you're probably just holding him. If there's someone that is panicking, like willing to sell him for outside top 10 wide receiver prices in Dynasty because there are some people that are definitely very overreactive after week one. I'd be willing to buy for that price.

[B]

So sticking with this same game, I want to talk about the Bengals a little bit and we're not going to talk about Jamar Chase T. Higgins. We know they're fine. I don't think anybody's panicking there. I think the question I have is about Chase Brown because what we saw is, you know, he picked up right where he left off last year. There were some concerns that there might be a timeshare that Samajp Ryan, Taj Brooks, some other guys might be involved, but Chase Brown was absolutely a workhorse in this matchup. Now the production wasn't there, the efficiency wasn't there. He was able to get in the end zone once, but I see a guy who is just not coming off the field field on a high powered offense and I get really excited about that. How high are you willing to put Chase Brown in your rest of season rankings?

[A]

One thing before we talk about Chase Brown, I think we just need to make it automatic for next year. Do not start Joe Burrow, do not start Jamar Chase and do not start Higgins. Joe Burrow last week had his highest fantasy output of the season, week one or I mean over the last three years. He has highest fantasy output in week one of the last three years. It was 8.8 points.

[B]

It's so funny with like how much we heard like, well, they're playing in the preseason so they're not going to have the slow start this year. There's something to be said about Cincinnati just getting off to a slow start every single year. Apparently.

[A]

It's, it's unbelievable. Like they, they set themselves back every year. But back to Chase Brown. The actual question, I, I think, you know, looking at the way he played, it wasn't ideal, honestly. I mean two point, I mean two yards per carry, obviously, when you look at that face value, that's not good. Watching him play though, it was a ton of runs that just went straight into the back of his offensive line, maybe 2 yards and then he had a couple runs here and there was like, oh, we got 10 yards, you look good there. But nothing that screamed that this guy is actually a very good running back. Overall, I thought it was a very underwhelming performance, but like you said, man, he's not coming off a field. There's just nobody else in this office besides Todd Brooks, who we don't even know if he's good. So he's not going to come off a field. He's going to be a very strong volume play, very strong RB2, potentially low end RB1 depending on how many touchdowns and receiving volume he's able to absorb. But yeah, that's where we're at with him. It might just be a little gross though, because last week did not look good. Hopefully he's able to play better in future weeks.

[B]

And it kind of feels like Kyron Williams, right? Like a guy who doesn't get off the exact. The efficiency isn't great. He's a day three running back, but like you know, this guy's getting 100 of the touches in a above average offense. And like, sometimes that's all that matters in fantasy.

[A]

Except he doesn't fumble like six times a year like Aaron Williams does. So that's, that's going for him.

[B]

All right, last question I got on this game here. Mike Sicki was a sleeper for a lot of people. No offense, scored the touchdown and had more targets in this matchup. So we just ask you bluntly, Micah Sicki, Noah Fant, are either of these guys rosterable in fantasy football leagues?

[A]

I really wouldn't think so. Man. When you look last year, Micah Sicki was only really relevant when T. Higgins was out. Like when Jamar Chase, D. Higgins were both on the field. Micah Sicki was barely a fancy relevant tight end. Now you're splitting the Titan work on the Cincinnati offense between two tight ends. It's just, it's not going to work for fantasy. There's going to be a touchdown here and there. There'll be a week where one of them gets a lot more volume than the other, but it's just not going to be anywhere close to predictable. And as a result, you're probably not going to be wanting to start either of them. So I don't think they're rosterable.

[B]

Yeah, I think the play with Mike Kosicki is you draft him and if T. Higgins misses anytime that you're getting a top three, top five tight end. But now he needs T. Higgins and Noah Fan both to miss time. So if we're looking at like a double injury contingency option for a tight end, probably not Ross Turbo, but a good discussion to have. All right, next one. This one, obviously I'm a little bit biased, but I want to talk about the Chicago Bears and the Detroit Lions, two teams that I think surprised maybe in the wrong ways. In week one, the wide receiver situation here in Chicago, we saw DJ Moore and Roma Dunes a basically playing mirrored roles on opposite sides of the field. We saw Olamide Zakias playing a lot out of the slot and then we saw the tight ends involved as well. Who do you think is the wide receiver in Chicago with the most fantasy value?

[A]

I think if DJ Moore had that one deep catch, we wouldn't even be talking about who's the wide receiver one in Chicago. And look, Dave, you took a lot of heat on Twitter for this, but I'm with you. He had a lack of effort on that route. I mean, he looked back, did not run full speed, and that should have been a corner Route to the, to the front corner of the end zone. That should have been a catch right there of Caleb Williams. He threw that ball on target. DJ Moore just wasn't there. I'm with you on that one, but overall I think he's still the wide. Yeah, you're welcome. I know you got a lot of heat for that one, but I'm with you. I saw that tweet, I was like, Dave's right here.

[B]

But you know, it came out too. A lot of other people came out that like, yeah, I'm still a novice film grinder, but I saw a lot of other people. Sometimes being first is really tough because when you're the first with a contrarian opinion, you know you take the heat for it. But I was glad to see some other people kind of came around and saw it the same way I did.

[A]

Yeah, 100%, man. But my wide receiver, one pick for this team right now, I think it's still going to be DJ Moore looking at five targets, three rush attempts. He was very involved in the running game, which we saw a little bit in the off season. I wasn't thinking we were going to see it that much in the season, but it looks like we are. Looks like he could be the RB2 in this team apparently. And it seemed like also GJ Moore had the most even split of slot and out wide usage. And in the backfield he seemed to be the most versatile piece that Ben Johnson was moving around. We saw some short opportunities, saw some opportunities deep as we saw with that misplay. It seems like he's the overall most versatile and most used piece in this offense. I think he's going to be the number one wide receiver that you want. But watch out for Roma Dunes a two man, nine targets in this game. He caught the touchdown which made him the most fantasy relevant. But he's someone that could absolutely have a huge breakout in year two and someone worth keeping an eye on. And overall though, I think you're just going to want pieces of this offense. Obviously Chicago had an absolute choke in the fourth, the fourth quarter of that game that was really frustrating to see. But Caleb Williams flash a lot. We saw 10 for 10 in that first in his first 10 pass attempts. He looked really sharp a lot of the game, had some great throws, especially there was that one Dave, I'm pretty sure you probably saw. I mean you're a Bears fan, you probably saw it. That one where he's running down to.

[B]

The right and throws to Roma Duke.

[A]

On a rope that was like I tweeted that video, I was like, there might be like two or three quarterbacks that are making this throw. Like it was just insane. He had some great throws and I think this offense is going to be really good this year after what we saw this week. And it was a disappointing game. But I'm excited for the future. I'm excited for this receiving core. DJ Moore is the guy I want though.

[B]

Yeah, I would like to see some of the scripted stuff and the on target stuff come a little bit easier. I mean, so many balls that he threw that were like jaw dropping plays were playing out of the structure of the offense and kind of making something out of nothing. I would like to see him just kind of stand tall in the pocket and take what's given to him. But you know, that's a first game in a new offense. Not panicking, panicking yet. Speaking of panicking, colson Loveland, top 10 pick, a lot of people had really high expectations for him at this point, especially after week one when we see Harold Fannin and Juwan Johnson and a lot of other tight ends kind of stepping up. Do you think Colson Loveland is still rosterable in fantasy or should people just bench or drop him and. And pick him up for somebody else?

[A]

I'm be honest, man. I don't know why people are too shocked about how Coastal Level played in Week 1. Like he's a rookie tight end on an incredibly crowded offense with a very serviceable veteran tight end. With Cole Comet still on the roster, it's really hard for a rookie titan to come out in week one and completely separate themselves like that. I'm not, I'm not surprised that Colson Loveland didn't have a great game. I would not drop him yet though. You look at this offense, obviously, like I just said a minute ago, it could be very, very good, this offense. Like you said, Dave, Caleb Williams needs to get the superman mentality out of his head and just take what's given to him, make some easy plays rather than make it really hard for himself outside of the system. But Colson Loveland could be a very involved piece of this offense down the stretch. We know he's talented. We know he was drafted very heavily. We know he's a very athletic tight end, which is great for fantasy. It's just week one, week two, the first few weeks, he's probably more of a stash. I wouldn't drop him though, because it feels. This feels like a player. Like I'm. I'm not going to comment directly. This player but this first one that came my head But Amon Ross, St. Brown, everyone was so disappointed that early in his rookie season they dropped him. And late in the season he had a breakout because opportunity came his way. I think Colson Lovely could be a similar player where early in the, early in the season just because he's a rookie, he's getting acclimated to crowded offense around him. He's not exactly involved yet. But as the season goes on, as he gets better in the NFL, we see much more involvement in this receiving room for him. So do not drop Colson level and please, I Love Harold Fannin Jr. Love him to death but do not drop Colson Loveland.

[B]

Yeah, I agree with you on that one. Now let's stick with this game and I think this is a really interesting matchup with Ben Johnson kind of immediately early in the season facing off against his former team. We saw last week the Lions looked bad and I mean there was a huge brain drain in Detroit. Losing Ben Johnson, losing Tanner Instrument, losing Aaron Glenn. I mean they lost a lot of valuable pieces, pieces on that sideline. And then we see this very JV style offense coming out where like Jared Goff is just checking down in the flat, throwing to his running backs, throwing to his tight ends. We don't see a lot from Almond Rose St. Brown, we don't see a lot from Jameson Williams. Do you think this was just a fluke, you know, on the road against a really tough opponent or do you think this is a sign of things to come in this post? Ben Johnson, Glenn Ingstrom, error.

[A]

You do. David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs combined for 14 targets last week. Like I mean he was. It was just dump off after dump off of their dump off and obviously they fell behind quickly. They just needed to throw the ball and that was their form of the running game kind of just dumping off that running back position. But yeah, this was really scary to see. Honestly. I mean I was hoping for a lot better but honestly I'm going to be honest, I'm not panicking just yet. I have a really hard time just simply put I have a really hard time believing then offense with a Monroe St. Brown, Jameson Williams, Isaac Tesla, Sam Laporta, Jabir Gibbs and Dave Montgomery. And a pretty good offensive line is going to be bad. I have a really hard time believing an offense with that much talent is going to be a complete bust the entire season. It might be a slow start getting used to the new offensive system, getting used to the play calling. Jared Goff getting better in this System. But I, I would be really shocked if throughout the entire season, we are not looking at this offense as a good offense.

[B]

So what we've seen from this offense over the last couple of years is that Sam Laporto wasn't really a volume play, but he was a big play and a touchdown threat. What we saw in week one was him pulling nine targets. How much weight are you putting into that? Do you think that this is just, you know, the, the new offense now that the Lions have, they do want to focus around Sam Laporta a little much, A little bit? Or again, are we just kind of chalking this up to like a wonky week one?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, like you said, he hasn't been much of a volume play. When he looks at weeks one through 13 last year when their defense was kind of still intact and he had four games where he got into the end zone, and those were the only four games in weeks one through 13 where he had 10 plus PPR points. He was not able to score 10 plus PPR points without a touchdown last year. It was just insane for those. For that first, like three quarters of the season before Detroit fell off in the last four games this season because of that terrible defense, they had to throw a ton as a. As a result, Laporta got a lot of volume. But looking at week one, I've seen nine targets is huge. However, I would be cautious about fully investing this one. Jameis Williams has been huge. I mean, I know you're big on Jameson Williams. So am I, Dave. He was a huge piece in this bear in this Detroit off season. The reports about him were just absolutely fantastic. We are seeing a breakout come out for this year. Everyone was projecting it last year for him. Everyone in Detroit is projecting it this year for him. Five targets, four receptions. I'd expect more involvement next week. And then as well as Isaac Tesla, he had a fantastic circus like catch in the end zone. One catch, but it was 13 yards in that touchdown. I don't know if you saw it, Dave. Right. That, that one hander.

[B]

Of course, I, I do think the context that needs to be stated with Isaac Tesla. He did only run three routes and one of those was an unbelievable service catch. But yeah, I mean, that's. That, that's what he does. Like he comes down with those balls that nobody else can.

[A]

Yeah. And Dan Campbell came out after the game immediately and said, yeah, Tesla's gonna be more involved in our offense. And I trust Dan Campbell to do that because you see what he did in the preseason you see the offseason reports, you see the practice reports, you see what he just did in Week one. He seems like a really legit player and they drafted him pretty early than people expect him to be drafted. Detroit clearly had something with him, so I think they're going to use him a lot more. And as a result, I think Lepora just gets pushed back down to a like 5, 4, 5 target per game kind of guy. But obviously keep an eye on it because if this new system wants the Titan position to be prevalent, it's going to be prevalent. But I have a hard time fully investing in this week one after such a wacky week from this offense. Like I said, 14 running back targets and they were behind so much. I have a hard time investing fully in what we saw this week in this offense.

[B]

So let's move over to the AFC East. We've got the New England Patriots going down to Miami and I want to talk about the Patriots first here. Stefan Diggs, Demario Douglas, Case on Booty who do you prefer over the rest of the season?

[A]

It's not Demary Douglas. He's not the answer. But I want to highlight Demari Douglas real quick. Jeff Bell put out a funny tweet he I think he bet on Jamari Douglas to receive a thousand yards this year and he was like I have great news. I bet on the Mary Douglas to catch, catch, receive a thousand yards this year. And now after week one he's only a thousand and two yards away and it was just, it was so funny. He had negative 2 yards this week. He's not the answer. To me. I'm looking at Stefan Diggs and Keisha on Booty and other Honestly it's, it depends on what you want for Diggs. I think you're looking at a very reliable veteran presence. You saw he was dominating the short intermediate ranges of the field. All of his catches were behind 15 yards of air yardage. He was, he was just all in that short intermediate range just being a reliable chains mover for this Patriots offense and that's going to get you some valuable fantasy points in your flex every single week. That's going to be a stable level of production. I think he's the safer choice. However, Keisha on Booty showed a lot of juice in week one. Every single one of his eight targets were 10 plus yards downfield and three of them were 20 plus. He is someone that the Patriots are looking to throw to downfield. He scored a touchdown last week, had 100 plus yards on six catches. He's got a lot of yak ability as well. You saw some great plays with the football in his hands. He seems like someone that the Patriots are going to involve a lot more this year. We saw some flashes last year, but he is risky because last year we saw a couple of these big games. We saw some big plays from him last year, but we had four games of 15 plus PBR fantasy points and the rest was nothing. Like he was barely involved. So this could be a huge fluke in Week one that we seen mostly nothing the rest of the year or it could be a huge breakout. So honestly, it really depends on what you're looking for with your receiving room. I would say if you have a lot of injuries, if you just need, oh my gosh, I just need somebody to fill my flex spot this week. I'd prefer Stefan Diggs. You're gonna get safety there, but if you're wanting to look somebody's stash and say, hey, I think I need somebody with upset on my bench, booty is the answer.

[B]

And I think my read on this situation too is that Stefan Diggs is already ahead of schedule coming back from this ACL tear.

[A]

Like a lot of people didn't expect.

[B]

Him to be on the field on Week one. So part of me wonders if, like, you know, him not looking great in Week one is still just him kind of getting a little bit more confidence in that knee and that, you know, if we fast forward two, three weeks from now, Stefan Diggs can look more like pre injury Stefan Diggs. And then all of these questions that we're having about this wide receiver room might seem a little silly in hindsight, but we'll see how this one turns out. I do want to talk about the backfield here though, because Josh McDaniels has a penchant for splitting the backfield and what we saw was 100% a committee approach where it was about 5050 between Radre Stevenson and Travion Henderson. We saw a little dash of Antonio Gibson in there as well. Do you think this is what we should expect for the entire season or do you think that one of these guys might be able to pull away.

[A]

From the bunch if Josh Daniels is smart? No, this is going to be Trevan Henderson's backfield relatively soon, I think. I mean, obviously Henderson didn't have the best Week one. I think a couple of his plays, I think he had a hard time following blockers. He wasn't best at yard of contact. I saw a couple weird plays from him, but overall he showed Some serious juice. He was so explosive out of that backfield, out of the receiving game. And Ramon Ray Stevenson, he just looked like a rock man. He was just going straight behind his offensive line, 2 yards per carry, just, just smashing in the back of his offensive line. That's just kind of what he was last week. He wasn't very explosive, didn't show much juice at all. While Travan Henderson showed everything you need to show of why he's a really good running back that's still developing the NFL. But he's got so much upside. And I think over the season we're gonna see Trayvon Henderson start to lead this backfield more and more, but definitely was, you know, as a Trayvon Henderson manager in a lot of leagues. And it definitely wasn't fun to see like seven fantasy points this week after drafting him.

[B]

Pretty highly heavy usage in the passing game though. And that is something to be excited about. We know, like this guy, you know, it kind of reminds me of Jameer Gibbs, a guy split in the backfield with David Montgomery, who, albeit probably a little bit better than Ramadre Stevenson, but they do a lot of the same things. And I think that Treveon Henderson has a big play upside and he's got the pass catching chops and we want to see that for running back. So still holding on to hope here. Even if it is split, I still think that there's an out for Henderson to be very fantasy relevant. Absolutely. Let's talk about the Dolphins though, and sheesh. We could probably do a full hour just on the Dolphins. Just an abysmal performance. But Tyreek Hill, is he benchable this week? I mean, a lot of people paid up for him in round three, but I'm starting to think that maybe if you got better options, you might want to bench him.

[A]

I'm gonna be honest, Dave, I don't know where you were with that. With Tyree Kill this off season, I was completely out. Like, he was basically off my draft board. Like the, all the offseason reports were negative or neutral. Like there was nothing good coming out from Tyreek Hill in this Miami offense. I, I was completely out. And I think that we're going to end up looking good in this one for Tyreek Hill. I think he's absolutely benchable this week. Unfortunately, his case is drawn because Christian Gonzalez is out for the Patriots this week. That cornerback room is looking a little more vulnerable than it would be with with Gonzalez in the lineup. And Miami could have a bounce back week. But I, I just, I don't see it, man. I. I would not want to start anyone in this offense, literally anyone except Devon Hn until I see it on the field.

[B]

So let's throw some names out there real quickly. Tyreek Hill or George Pickens.

[A]

Pickens, yeah.

[B]

Kelvin Ridley or Tyree Kill.

[A]

Oh, my God, that's disgusting. Because that Ward Ridley connection was just not there yet. The Rams defense, that's really tough.

[B]

I also, we got to remember Kelvin Ridley got Pat certain last week.

[A]

Last week. Friday is ahead for sure.

[B]

I got killed in Ridley ahead of Tyreek.

[A]

I will. I will go Ridley. But it's. But it's close. Just because the. The Cam Ward, the rookie quarterback, still getting in the league, still developing. That connection just wasn't there for Fantasy last week yet. But at least you know, you're getting some targets.

[B]

Let me throw a couple more at you. Just. I think it's important for, like, actionable advice to the listeners.

[A]

Of course. Yeah.

[B]

Debo Samuel, a guy that I was kind of fading in the off season, but he looked darn good in week one. Debo Samuel or Tyreek Hill?

[A]

Yeah, that's diva by a mile. That's not even close. And just don't put Debo in your flex, though. It's Thursday Night Football.

[B]

I got two more for you and Keenan Allen.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Keenan Allen was drafted in, like, round 12 by a lot of guys, but looked good pulling the targets in a Chargers offense. Keenan Allen or Tyree Kill.

[A]

Chargers get Las Vegas this week. I expect that to be a little bit slower game than the game against Kansas City. The Pete Carroll, that offense like to slow the game down. I still am going to go with Keenan. Hell, no. He looked very, very good. He looked like a dependable target. And it was like, like, oh, my gosh. Who was it? I think it was Duran James on the sideline during the game, he just kept saying third and Keaton, and every third down, they were looking to Keenan's way. He was just. He's just such a dependable guy to move the chains. He'll get at least four or five catches. And I just. I can't even say that about Terry Kill.

[B]

So I've got one more here. And this is crazy to think about benching a guy off of waivers for your round. Pick Hollywood Brown, you know, Xavier Worthy, and this is assuming Xavier Worthy doesn't play. So if you picked up Hollywood Brown off of waivers, are you putting him in your lineup over Tyree Kill?

[A]

You know, so the matchup this week is the Philadelphia Eagles, obviously with Kansas City playing Philly and I would want to say this cornerback room is strong. But I watched last week, it is not. You have Quinion Mitchell. That cornerback two spot is absolutely awful. I mean, George Pickens was getting locked up by Quinon Mitchell all game long. But Clam absolutely destroyed us. If you don't know. Big Eagles fan. So I watched that game intense, intensely. They can't guard the wide receiver too, or slot save their life. I think Hollywood Brown's gonna be able to have a good game. They'll find some matchup outside of Quinton Mitchell.

[B]

Well, there you have it. All right, last question. I got here about the Miami Dolphins. Not a good question. Just give me your rest of season take on Devon hn. What should we expect from him going forward?

[A]

Yeah, I mean he's an excellent player, very explosive out of the backfield and he's going to be the engine of this offense because clearly it's not going to go through tua. I mean at least what we've seen so far, it's not going to go through tua. It's going to be through hn. He'll get a handful of rush temps here and there. He'll be very good, explosive out of the backfield. And they don't get a ton of pass, pass catching work because you lost Johnny Smith. Jaron Waller's also hurt, so his hope is slowly fading too. The short area receiving volume is wide open for Devon Achan to take over. I mean like just I remember like it was, it was third and 10. They were on the 10 yard line, was third and goal and they did a swing pass to Devon Hn and it was like, what are you doing? He's eight yards now behind the line of scrimmage. His third down. How do you expect to score? And somehow he took it in for a score. He's just that good. You're starting him as an RB one, but it's a gross offense.

[B]

All right, let's talk about we're going to stick with the AFC East. We're talking to all the AFC east teams today. Apparently these are the games that piqued my interest. Buffalo Bills at New York Jets. Keon Coleman, Year two breakout. Is it happening?

[A]

I believe so, Dave. I don't know where you're at. I believe so. Per Next Gen stats, he created double the separation week one that he did in year two. I mean did in year one. When you look at his routes too, you watch him play. He looked explosive off the line. He looked great at creating separation at the Top of his routes. He was genuinely able to like get away from defenders finally this week. And you look at the receptions that he had, the yards that he had, the production that he had in this offense, dependability he had, he had a couple major third down plays that move this Bill's offense forward in key moments. Like he was dependable for the Bills in, in week one and I guess New York Jets, I expect similar production. I'm going to go with Keon Coleman. I think the year two breakouts here.

[B]

I agree with you and you know, I'm a little trepidatious about it because it was one week and I don't want to overreact, but got really excited by the usage that we saw here where he was just consistently getting targeted late in the game when they needed to push the ball downfield, throwing him up, you know, one on one ball in the two point conversion opportunity when they spotted him with single man coverage. I mean there's a lot of things to take away that are, that are pretty exciting about that. Got another question about the Buffalo Bills and we don't need to spend too much time on the Bills, we know they're a good offense, but James Cook, you know, just dominated the snap count, you know, had five targets, was able to plunge in for a touchdown. Basically did exactly what he's done for the last two years. Why was he so cheap in drafts this year?

[A]

Yeah, I think the overall concern was the touchdown regression, but I, I thought it got a tad overcorrected. I mean obviously I, coming into the season I thought I was going to be low on James Cook.

[B]

I was like, I same, I had the same exact. I thought I was going to fade James Cook. And then I got in drafts and I was like, wait, I can get this guy in round five. I guess I'm drafting a lot of James Cook.

[A]

Yeah, I had him like, I had him like I think three, four spots above consensus rankings mostly. So I was like a tad above. I got him in a handful of drafts for sure. But like, yeah, I was like, I don't get it. Like people like that touchdown aggression was the only concern. This is an elite offense, he's the RB one and he's a good receiving back. I mean he hadn't been used a ton over the last couple years, but we saw five targets this week. Hopefully you see some more of that this year. But yeah man, I don't, I don't understand like the back end RB2 prices was a little cheap.

[B]

So I'll go off on A tangent a little bit and thanks for indulging me on this one, Hutch, but I think that what happens often in the off season is ADP gets like so, so entrenched. And there was reasonable concern with James Cook when he was holding out and we didn't know if he was going to play or not. Then he signs this multi year contract. We should just say, okay, James Cook, move him up three rounds to where he belongs. But it didn't happen because people had already done hundreds of thousands of drafts and ADP said that he was a 5th round pick and you know, you might see him go round four here and there, but he just didn't move up the way that he should. And I think the same thing with Keenan Allen, who through week one is also looking like one of the, the best deals in drafts right now. He was a free agent and he was going in round 18 of drafts and then when he signed it with the team, he moved up to like round 12, 13, 14. But when you start looking at some of the other aging veterans in weird situations, you know, Cooper cup, you know, Cooper cup was going rounds ahead of him. We look at Mike Evans and Devonte Adams, guys who we know are very talented, going way ahead of him. Stefan Diggs going way ahead of him. So we'll see adjustments when news breaks, right? But it never adjusts as much as it should. So I'm going to do a study on this during the offseason and kind of see when we have these like players that are kind of influx and then we get the news that we want. I, I have this hunch that the ADP just doesn't correct as much as it should. And I think that's why James Cook just stayed such a good deal in drafts. Let's talk about the New York. Yeah, go ahead.

[A]

Oh no, you're good. I think I love what you're saying there. I love go do that study. That's a great idea. And I think it just logically makes sense because like you're talking about in that mid to late August range, there's already so many drafts have been happening. People are set on the way they think and then this news breaks and sometimes people are just really slow to react. And then you have these ADPs that are just not changing because there are so many drafts that set those ADPs and the drafts that come later, August after the news aren't enough to push that ADP up. So it's 100% there. Dave, I love that idea, love that theory there.

[B]

So the jets looked really, really good last week against the Steelers. Justin Fields looked really good, rushing all over the field, plungin in for a couple of touchdowns. Everything we want to see from Justin Fields. Give me a list of quarterbacks that you would prefer over Justin Fields for the rest of this season.

[A]

Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, and maybe Jane Daniels. And that's it. There.

[B]

There's like, you've got him in the same tier as Joe Burrow.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I already have. I already have him in that tier. Pre draft, he was my QB6 coming into the season, I was all in on him. And after this week, I'm even more confident. I think he looked excellent as a runner as always, but I think he looked really solid as a passer. I think he looked very capable. He made some great throws, not only to Garrett Wilson, but to other options in this offense. He had a couple targets there. Mason Taylor. Mason Taylor came down with a nice catch, but unfortunately he's. That ankle injury, you got to keep an eye on that. But back to Fields looked impressive to me. I genuinely, I like I would watch. I went back and watched his Pittsburgh film, came back to this one. I was much more impressed with what he did in Week 1 against the Steelers on the jets than what he was doing in the first few weeks of Pittsburgh. And he was solid then. So I'm freaking excited, like, really, really hyped to have him on my fantasy teams.

[B]

And I think the. The major concern with Justin Fields, like, people are saying, well, like, if you draft him and he gets benched, like, what are you going to do then? I think he did enough. And like, I don't want to sound hyperbolic here, but, like, I think he did enough in week one. Like, when you see a player that can play that sort of game, they're not going to bench him for Tyrod Taylor. Like, I think they're just going to see it through this season for better or worse, and they might have some tough losses. We might see Justin Fields miss some throws here and there like he has in. In past, but, like, I don't know how you can see a player do it. Justin Fields did in Week one and at any point this year, say, like, we. We got to see what we've gotten to Rod Taylor.

[A]

That.

[B]

That just now after week one seems like such a foolish narrative to even buy into.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I mean, the jets especially, because after losing that Aaron Rodgers saga, they completely lost their identity. For a while it was going to be Aaron Rodgers. Like, they brought In Aaron Rodgers, like, we got our quarterback, we got our guy, this is it. And then that blew up into a complete disaster and they're completely lost of identity and they sign Fields to basically a one year guaranteed deal. The next year's complete void. If they want to void it, they're giving Justin Fields a chance saying, hey, you could be our guy. Let's see if you can be our guy. I, I highly doubt along with you, Dave, that they're going to go to Tyra Taylor saying, let's see what we got into. Taylor. It just makes no sense, especially after, like you said this week, one that he had.

[B]

Speaking of silly preseason narratives about the jets, there was much ado made about a three headed committee that it was going to be Breeze Hall, Braylon Allen, Isaiah Davis and, and I'm kicking myself, Hutch and I've talked about this on some shows already, like three, four months ago. I was saying like Aaron Glenn would be a fool to not make Breeze hall the lead back in this backfield and that if he did, you know, everybody would be trying to like trade for Breeze Hall. And I was saying just go out and draft Breeze hall, it's fine. But like this drum beat got deafening throughout the preseason where they're saying Brayan Allen looks like a completely different player. You know, he was drafted young and he's put on some size and he looks better than ever. Well, what fools we were for buying into that narrative because Breeze hall comes out looking like an absolute workhorse. And not just a workhorse, but wildly efficient too. Like breaking tackles, big plays, catching passes, like everything we want to see from Breeze Hall. So do you expect that to just maintain like now like is genie out of the bottle? Like they've just got to continue feeding Breeze hall the way they did in week one.

[A]

Yeah, there have been a lot of studies out there about franchise, sorry, contract years for running backs. It's legit. Like the end of a rookie deal for a running back means a lot. It is. When you're trying to make your money, especially for the running back position, you don't always get a second contract. So it's huge that you play good in your contract year. Get out, get a contract. And that's something that wasn't talked about at all for Breeze Hall. He's in a contract year, a couple years removed from an ACL tear now, ready to go. Like he's ready to dominate this year to try to earn himself some money. And I think that was a huge motivation coming in, especially the chip I Think he felt a chip on his shoulder as well. You saw him post on Shoulders posted on socials. He's the kind of guy that definitely gets a chip on his shoulder. Definitely gets motivated by people not liking him. He is motivated by it, and we saw that in week one. He absolutely dominated. And look, I love Braylon Allen. He was my RB one come out of my that class, and it was a weaker class, but I loved Braylon Allen, Loved that kid. I think he had a really solid rookie year considering the fact that he had just barely turned 21 years old and the end of the rookie contract is going to be 24. I think that kid's got a lot of potential if you give him a starting job somewhere. But for now, this is Breece Hall's backfield breeze. Hall's simply a better player.

[B]

Yeah. So shout out to anybody who's lucky enough to get him in drafts for cheap or got him in Dynasty trades for cheap this season looking like one of the the best values and quickly putting egg on the face of anybody who bought into those preseason narratives. Next game, I want to talk about maybe the most underwhelming and maybe the most overwhelming performances.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

High expectations for the Broncos, and they looked absolutely terrible. Almost no expectations for the Colts, and they looked like the 2005 Peyton Manning led Colts. I mean, it was just an unbelievable performance out there. Let's talk about the Broncos first, though. Bo Nicks looked atrocious. How nervous are you about this performance?

[A]

It was so messy like that. I watching that game, the one where I couldn't stop getting on my head is Bo Nix just looks messy off, throws dangerous throws, not only putting his players in position to get killed, but throwing interceptions like he was just messy all game long. And I really hope it's just week one jitters. Now it's out of the way and he's fine now. And he's just going to get that all out now and be fine for week two. But definitely raise an eyebrow. I would really hope that we see better, but we saw this with C.J. stroud. Man, he came out his rookie year looking like, like the neck. The next Jesus of football at quarterback. Everyone was writing him was like the QB one in Dynasty. And it was like C.J. stroud's gonna take over the NFL and he comes out in year two with a bad offensive line and the receivers got hurt and it was just a terrible season. And now he is where he is now in Dynasty rankings. Ponix could have a similar story where we see the really Promising rookie year. He comes out in year two. Now defenses know who he is. They got more film on him. They're ready for him. He has to take a next step forward of expectation and pressure and it's just, it crumbles him. We could absolutely see that in year two but I wouldn't make any concrete conclusions yet. Just keep a close eye on this week, in week two.

[B]

So let me ask you another question about Bo Nix. You got him, let's say in a 12 team league and I know we're already on Thursday where you know waivers have run for a lot but let's say for whatever reason you're in a league and Justin Fields is still out there, you're obviously making that move. Justin Herbert is out there, you're obviously making that move. But yes. What about the guy playing opposite the field? Daniel Jones is out there in waivers. Are you dropping Bo Nicks for Daniel Jones? Nah.

[A]

Man like Daniel has such a good week one but Denver, I have a really bad feeling about Daniel Jones after such a good week going against Denver. His interception line DraftKings is a plus 120 for over a half an interception. I'm smashing that line. If you, if you can, if you're a betting man, smash that line. I don't, I don't see a good week for Daniel Jones. I'd rather start Bo Nix and hope for the bounce back.

[B]

Yeah, I, I'm kind of with you there but also like I, I wasn't a big believer in Bonix to begin with so maybe this is just me double counting now after game but fell very far down in my rest of season rankings.

[A]

He was a, he was a tad overvalued for me as well. It's just that, that like mid tier of quarterbacks with Mahomes Knicks, Mayfield going directly after the big five at quarterback that we were drafting earlier. I was just completely out on those guys like that, that six to eighth round quarterback range. I was like nope, I'm good. I'm not overpaying for this guy. That's not going to make a difference for me. These, those big five up above are difference makers. And after that I'm just going late AKA I'm going Justin Fields.

[B]

So speaking of panicking on highly drafted Denver Broncos players, Evan Ingram played 34 of the snaps. Again I'll ask the same question I asked about Bo Nix. Is, is Evan Ingram droppable or do you think that maybe we exercise some patience here and wait to see what happens in week two?

[A]

Well, he did get hurt in this game and they put on his helmet late like he got hurt in the third quarter and then I think he might have come back later but he was basically a decoy. I don't think he came back and caught a pass after he was injured. But he's questionable for this week. The calf injury looks like he's going to play and be fine. Looks like the team's just being extra precautious with him. So I'd hope that he's healthy, ready to go for this week. I'm not dropping Evan Ingram yet. He was a very highly drafted player for a reason. In fantasy football. He is the clear cut opportunity to be the number two in this Denver offense and we know Sean Payne. I'm not putting ever in the joker role. I think that's a mu. There's a huge stretch. But Evan Ingram is a very athletic tight end that can make big plays out of the slot and I think that he is very potential fan. Has a, has a potential to be a fantasy ball star like we saw him in Jacksonville. Be like a top five fantasy tight end back to back year. So I would not drop Evan Ingram just yet.

[B]

Yeah, I think my, my fear with Evan Ingram is just that, you know, I don't see a path to him being number two on this team in targets and so much of his value was volume based in Jacksonville with some more weapons here in Denver. I worry that, you know, Sean Payton just does weird stuff like we're going to see Adam Troutman and we're going to see other tight ends out there. We're going to see this rotation of running backs that are getting heavily targeted as well. And there was a lot made about Evan Ingram being a downfield threat. Well, Bonix can't throw downfield. Anytime he tried it was intercepted. So I think that's like my major pause here. But let's go to the other side of the ball. We talked briefly about it. Like Daniel Jones looked really good in week one. Do you think he is now in that streaming starter discussion in week two or do you want to want to see it against a better than the Miami Dolphins defense which would be pretty much any other team in the league.

[A]

If there are any lineups I'm starting Daniel Jones. I'm absolutely horrified. Like I, I do not want to do it. I would try to avoid it if you can but I know there's a super flex league and the in the football guy staff leagues. In our super flex league I went zero qb. I went very late quarterback. I have Stafford, I have Stroud and I have Daniel Jones. And I'm probably starting Daniel Jones Jones because I, I think he's probably the best of those three options just because the rushing volume he gets because what we saw last week. But I'm terrified to do it.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's super flex leagues. He's like, I don't want to say a must start, but I can't imagine many people are in a position can't start him. I mean, I've got him QB19 on the week, which means like borderline, you're really desperate. You're in a league where everybody's hoarding QB2s. You might have to roll them out as your QB1 and feel terrible about it. But. And super flex leaks. Like I think Daniel Jones is a great QB2 to have. Like you got some rushing upside there. And you know, in the Shane Steichen offense, a lot of design runs for the quarterback. But yeah, I think you're right. Don't want to start him just yet, but also don't want him on waivers. Like pick him up for now and oh yeah, what happens this week. All right, another question about the Indianapolis Colts and I'm going to ask you, I'm going to pose this the same way I did the Justin Fields question. What tight ends would you prefer rest of season over?

[A]

Tyler Warren, Brock Bowers and Trey McBride.

[B]

Yeah, that's if George, if George Kittle.

[A]

Wasn'T hurt, I'd probably put him there too. But you know, Tyler Warren is in the elite conversation. I, I saw your tweet before, Dave. I completely agree with you that he. Everything you needed to see in week one, you saw. He's an absolute superstar. Like, it's just that simple. He is very, very good at football and he's probably going to be the number one target on this team this year. At the time position that there's nothing more you can ask for. He's going to be an elite star this year. At the time position.

[B]

Yeah, this was one where like I watched the game live and I was just like, wow, like, Tyler Warren's really good. And then I went back and like watched the all 22 and I got through like three plays and I was just like, I think I'm done here. Like, I think I've seen enough. Yeah, Unbelievable. Yeah, he is so, so good. And I think that we'll be looking at him after this season. Probably in that same discussion in Dynasty conversations with Brock Bowers and Trey McBride is just like elite young guys. That is Reshaping the tight end landscape as we know it. I saved the best for last year with you, Hutch. I knew you coming on the show it would be foolish not to talk about the Philadelphia Eagles. So we got a Super bowl match up here. Philadelphia Eagles heading to Kansas City. What's going on with A.J. brown?

[A]

I don't know. And I hate it. I hate it. I don't understand. He needs to get, he needs to get the book back out, bro. I don't know what's going on. He needs to get the book. I don't understand what's happening. I, I, I'm gonna be honest, though. Like, a lot of people are like, oh, just breathe. This week one, there's a slight bit of me that is concerned for Adrian Brown for Fantasy. He it was rumored that he was playing with an injury and he was kind of a decoy. When you go back and watch the All 22, he definitely did not look like as fast and as quick as the normal AJ Brown does. But something that concerned me obvious. Goddard got seven targets. That's incredible involvement for the time position. And maybe the new offense is like, hey, yo, let's get Dallas Goddard involved. Let's get the middle of the field involved. That's something they've struggled with because they had Devontae Smith, Asia Brown. There's hyper targeting those two. Goddard's been kind of an afterthought a lot in this offense for the last few years, but I think they could want to get him more involved this year. We'll see how that goes for the rest of the season. But the other thing is Saquon Barkley, he got five targets and he only hit that once last year. If we're going to see more Saquon Barkley receiving involvement, that's going to diminish this receiving game for A.J. brown. Devonte Smith, even more than last year. Adrian barely crossed a thousand yards last year. Devonte Smith did not. If we're gonna see even more of a decrease, that's going to be pretty concerning for Fantasy. So definitely, obviously, week one, obviously week one's crazy. And N.H. brown did not look the same player because he was playing with a bit of an injury. But if we continue to see a lack of involvement, I'm definitely going to start panicking a little bit for A.J. brown.

[B]

Did you see the I didn't watch the whole interview, but I saw a clip with Jordan Schultz and A.J. brown going around today. I don't know if you saw that or not, but I do have to say A.J. brown had, like, a very. There were never, like, character concerns with A.J. brown, but there's this discourse because, like, he's a. He's a passionate player and he'll occasionally show frustration on the sideline and get upset when he's not getting the ball. And there was this interview with Jordan Schultz where he kind of asked him about that, and he was just like, as cool and calm as can be. And he was just like, hey, man. He's like, I wasn't getting the ball, but I was pulling the defensive coverage in my direction and I was opening up opportunities for Saquon and for Dallas and these other guys to get their looks. He's like. And if I see it, like, even if I'm only getting one target, if I'm controlling the game in that way where I'm letting other guys get the ball, I feel like I'm doing my job out there. And to me, that shows a huge step in maturity and, like, it absolutely sucks for fantasy. Like, I'd rather him being Jalen hurts his face screaming on the sideline saying, yeah, I think as an Eagles fan, you've got to like that step in maturity for A.J. brown, a guy who used to get pretty hot when he wasn't getting the ball.

[A]

I did see the interview referencing, and honestly, it was quite incredible to see that the humility, the maturity that was shown in that interview was incredible. Maybe he was just media trained now and he's just holding back his real thoughts. That could be the reality.

[B]

And that was the book he was reading.

[A]

It was, yeah, Inner Excellence. Yeah, he probably saw something from Inner Excellence and learned it. But no, it was an incredible sign of maturity to. To say that kind of stuff. It just shows that he's mature. But I agree with you, Dave. It sucks for fantasy because I want him to get the freaking football if I have him on my fantasy team.

[B]

So, you know, Brown might be dealing with some lingering issue. A.J. brown might be dealing with some lingering issue from the preseason. Dallas Goddard trending towards potentially being out. So if we get word that, you know, A.J. brown is still limited, Dallas Goddard isn't playing, and we look at this Chiefs defense that plays a lot of man coverage, how high would you be willing to go with Devonta Smith, a guy who's pretty good at beating man coverage.

[A]

Yeah, you got to put him in the wide receiver. One conversation for sure. I mean, you look at the Chiefs last week, they got toasted by the Chargers. Their three receivers with Quentin Johnson, Keane Allen and Lab McConkey all saw between seven 10 targets all had great performances. Like we should expect Devontae Smith if he's the clear cut wide receiver one in this offense to have a boatload of targets and be a great asset. And then also I'd shot Saquon Barkley in the receiving game dude too. I would expect a huge game for him there. A lot of times we see vacated running backs do go to the running back. I mean vacated targets do go to the running back position. And Seiko Barkley, after earning five targets last week, establishing himself potentially as more of a receiver could get more involved in this offense even more next week if Brown were still be limited and Goddard is out.

[B]

So let's flip over to the Kansas City Chiefs. What do we do with Isaiah Pacheco? Very disappointing week one. He was kind of in a timeshare with Kareem Hunt that it appeared. Are we benching him now? Are you trying to buy low? Are you trying to just like sell him and get him off your roster? What do you think is the move right now with Isaiah Pacheco?

[A]

The one encouraging thing about Pacheco last week is that he looks severely better than Kareem Hunt. Like he created so much more with his carries. Hunt is fine. He can, he knows where he needs to be with the football. He knows where he needs to go. Find the hole and he gets like maybe a little push after contact. But Isaiah Pacheco can create serious plays and that's what he did with his limited touches last week. And I would hope if the coaching staff recognizes that they give Pacheco the ball more as the season goes on. So I'm probably in the trench of buy low and just hope for the best if you can trade for him from a panicking manager right now. But it was definitely concerning to see that in week one. And then look, Jalen Carr's back this week. I know Javante Williams tore up the Eagles a little bit with two touchdowns last week, but Jalen Carr's back. This Philly defense is back together. I don't expect him to get torn up by Isaiah Pacheco or Kareem Hunt in this run game this week. I would try to put Pacheco on your bench if he can but have hopes for the future.

[B]

Yeah, it's very disappointing and I think what you're seeing now is that he's going to be very game script dependent. Like if the Chiefs are going out on a team that they can just run the score up on, we might see a lot of second half Isaiah Pacheco but what we saw last week is in a close game or where they're trailing, Kareem Hunt is better at catching the ball. He's better at pass blocking as well. And when they move to that hurry up offense, they just can't have Isaiah Pacheco, who's a liability in the receiving game out there. So I was kind of hoping that with, you know, Rashad Smith not fully getting up to speed, that we could just see Isaiah Pacheco in this three down role. But kind of forget how much this team trusts Kareem Hunt. Last question I've got for you. And we touched on this a little bit when talking about Kareem or talking about Tyreek Hill. But Hollywood Brown, are you brave enough to start him this week?

[A]

Yeah, I am. I'm brave enough to start him this week. He moved all over the field last week against kc. I was initially thinking, you know, he, he can play a lot. He plays a lot on the outside. That's what my initial thought of him. And I looked at the, the alignment in week one and it was like, no, he actually played a lot in the slot. He was all over the field. I was thinking maybe if he plays only on the outside, he's probably gonna see the Quinon Mitchell treatment. But that's not the case. He's gonna be everywhere and that means he's going to be all over the field and we're going to see a lot of targets for him because, you know, we know Philly's offense can score. We know they can do really well on offense and we know this run game right now is a little concerning for the Chiefs. We, they're going to need to throw the football to succeed and Hollywood Brown's going to be there to absorb targets.

[B]

Can I just give Devil's Advocate my opinion on this one a little bit?

[A]

Sure. Go for it. What do you got?

[B]

I think that Hollywood Brown was forced into a role that they, they don't want. Hollywood Brown getting 16 targets a game.

[A]

I think, I don't think they do either, but they might have no choice.

[B]

Well, I think that last week, you know, they, they game plan for individual matchups and the Los Angeles Chargers, if there's one weakness on that defense, it's in their linebacking core. So I think what they wanted to do was draw up a lot of really quick passes that they can get the ball to Xavier Worthy. Kind of not how they utilized him last year, but kind of how Worthy was utilized at Texas where he just catches the short balls. Makes plays after the catch and with him getting immediately knocked out, I think the game plan was very much so revolved around him. And they just said, well, now we kind of need to drop Marquis Brown into this role. And I don't know if that's a role that I want to see Marquis Brown in because he doesn't break tackles, he doesn't have that short field quickness that he did when he was a little bit younger. So now I worry that with them having a chance to build a game plan without Xavier Worthy being a part of it now they can look at juju Smith Schuster, who could potentially be that yak guy. They can look at Travis Kelsey being a little bit more involved, maybe leaning on the run game a little bit. I don't know if they're going to spend all week week looking at what Marquis Brown did and said that's what we want to do again next week, you know, feed him the ball. I think that you see a little bit more of a balance pass attack going into week two.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not saying Marquis Brown here's going to be 16 targets or 10 receptions kind of guy, but I would expect him to be the wide receiver one. And also the thing that really concerned me for Kelsey, we saw Kelsey last year dominate target share after Rashid Rice left with injury. We saw him explode and then Rashid Rice was already out and then he eliminated Xavier Worthy by knocking out his shoulder in the first like play of the game basically. And he would. He had the lowest target share of his career since 2017. With under 11, he was still not able to earn a target share. And the thing is about Kelsey, he's just so familiar with Mahomes that if things go crazy, Mahomes is there with him. That connection should be. That connection should be right there. Like when I saw Xavier Worthy go down, my initial thought was like, oh, so Travis kelsey's gonna have 20 targets this week. It's that simple. He's going to dominate the target share. And we saw him catch two passes. One of them was for a touchdown. That made him relevant for fantasy. But two passes caught is likely never going to be very fantasy relevant unless you get in the end zone. So. And he looked to me, he looked clunky, he looks slow, he looks like a 35 year old tight end. I'm really concerned that Kelsey is not going to be a key piece of this chief's offense anymore. This, this seems like the beginning of the end.

[B]

And I want to say too that like even when Kelsey was at his Prime. Derwin James has always had his number. Like, that is always just a really.

[A]

Fun matchup to watch, bro. The body slam. Oh, my goodness. Man.

[B]

Yeah. So I think that there's something to that effect too, that, like, they didn't want to game plan around force feeding the ball to Travis Kelsey because of his history with Derwin James. So even when they were kind of like moving on the fly, it wasn't like, hey, let's like, completely redevelop our game plan here. It's like, hey, let's stick with the same game plan, but instead of Xavier worthy, we're just going to drop Hollywood Brown into that role. And I'm really interested to see what they come out with in week two. But, Hutch, thank you so much for joining today. You know, this is a little bit of a. A different version of the launch pad that we're doing in season as opposed to what we do during the pre season. But I do want to keep the one closing question the same. So this could be football related or otherwise. What is a hill that you are willing to die on?

[A]

Oh, man. Okay. Should I go with a positive? I want to ask you, should I go with a positive take or a negative take?

[B]

I asked the question and you got it. You got to answer.

[A]

All right, I'll go with it. I'll go with it. All right. My hill that I'm willing to die on ketchup is absolutely awful. I cannot say I think anyone who puts it on their fries, their burgers, literally anything, it is a disgrace. Ketchup is the worst condiment. It is terrible. Do not put ketchup on anything.

[B]

As a ketchup lover, that one hurts. I put ketchup on a lot of stuff. And yeah, I'm a 35 year old man and sometimes I still eat like a toddler, but I like ketchup. And you know, when my mom makes me chicken tenders and brings them down to the basement, nothing I like more than a little bit.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[B]

But, Hutch, want to thank you so much for taking the time to come on today. Before we sign off, let everyone know where they can find you on social media shows, articles, rankings, all that good stuff.

[A]

I greatly appreciate Dave. Y' all can follow me on Twitter. I'm @hutchisonbff. Check out my podcast, Hutch Coming in clutch going twice a week over there for all your fantasy football needs. And I'm doing a lot of football guys this year. You're seeing me on Sunday morning lives on Sunday mornings a lot in the Discord answering some questions probably a little bit in the article. Game here and there throughout the season. So make sure you check me out over there getting those Discord amas. We got some great people over at football, guys like Dave Alfredo, Jeff Bell, Joey Wright. We got some great people, man. It's a great company and super proud to be a part of it.

[B]

Well, thank you so much for making the time today, Hutch. Best of luck in Week two. I want to thank everybody who took the time to tune in today. I'll be back next week with Jeff Blaylock as we talk about some Week 3 matchups that pique our interest. So thank you so much for tuning in and I will see you next week.

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

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