Buckle up, listeners. It was only a matter of time before our paths crossed with Mel Robbins, one of the most respected experts on change and motivation in the zeitgeist, and today is that day. Known for being the host of the #1 ranking education podcast in the world, bringing deeply relatable topics, tactical advice, tools, and compelling conversations to her audiences, Jen and Amy spend today’s hour diving into Mel’s “Let Them” theory, which is taking the world by storm, already delivering instant peace and freedom in the lives and relationships of people putting it into practice.

Together, they discuss:

The difference between “Let Them” and “Let Me”
Learning to release the white-knuckle grip we hold over other people’s behavior (and other things beyond our control)
Reframing disappointment to view it as a gift (yes, it’s possible!)
Repositioning self-worth inward, rather than leaving it dependent on others' opinions.

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Thought-provoking Quotes:

“For a lot of women, we spend so much time upstairs in our heads as people-pleasers and over-analyzers, over-thinking and ruminating, trying to get things perfect. That’s the last place I should be, personally. I need to drop into my body and get out of my head.” – Mel Robbins

“People reveal who they are and what they care about through their behavior. Ignore their words. Watch their behavior. Let people be who they are. Let them do what they’re going to do. Focusing on them is not where your power is.” – Mel Robbins

“The difference between ‘not my business’ and ‘let them’ is worlds apart. When you say, ‘not my business’, you’re scolding yourself. With, ‘let them’, you’re in the power position because you see what’s happening and are choosing to allow it without allowing it. You’re rising above it.” – Mel Robbins

“There’s something about learning that [people] aren’t ever going to change but that doesn’t mean your relationship can’t change for the better. When you let them be who they are, you create space for acceptance, the whole energy shifts.” – Mel Robbins

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

Demotivators - https://despair.com/collections/

Effin Birds on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/effinbirds/

Van Morrison - https://www.vanmorrison.com/

No Hard Feelings by the Avett Brothers - https://open.spotify.com/track/0bgQ1hQrpP6ScdBZlDfLE2

Foo Fighters - https://foofighters.com/

DePeche Mode - https://www.depechemode.com/

The Cure - https://www.thecure.com/

Taylor Swift - https://www.taylorswift.com/

The 5 Second Rule: Transform Your Life, Work, and Confidence with Everyday Courage by Mel Robbins - https://amzn.to/427OHwu

The Let Them Theory: A Life-Changing Tool That Millions of People Can't Stop Talking About by Mel Robbins - https://amzn.to/4hc53bE

The Mel Robbins Podcast - https://www.melrobbins.com/podcast

The Four Questions: For Henny Penny and Anybody with Stressful Thoughts by Byron Katie - https://amzn.to/3C7tKXT

My Legacy Podcast - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-my-legacy-podcast-255793246/

Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl - https://amzn.to/4ajbyaz

Dr. Stuart Ablon - https://www.stuartablon.com/

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson - https://amzn.to/3PCqxmi

Guest’s Links:

Mel’s website - https://www.melrobbins.com/

Mel’s podcast - https://www.melrobbins.com/podcast

Mel’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/

Mel’s Twitter - https://x.com/melrobbins

Mel’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins

Mel’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins

Mel’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@melrobbins

Connect with Jen!

Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

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Finding Freedom with Mel Robbins and Two Little Words: Let Them