Mini-Ep 439: Here To Be Servicey

Summary

Forever35 Podcast Summary Episode: Mini-Ep 439: Here To Be Servicey
Release Date: April 16, 2025
Hosts: Doree Shafrir & Elise Hu

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Introduction

In Mini-Episode 439: Here To Be Servicey, co-hosts Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu delve into listener interactions, share thoughtful insights, and explore creative ideas with their characteristic humor and self-awareness. This episode emphasizes the importance of community engagement and practical self-care strategies, all while maintaining a light-hearted atmosphere.

Discussion on Podcasting and Mel Robbins

The episode opens with Elise reflecting on her recent experience at the TED conference, where discussions among podcasters highlighted Mel Robbins' ascent in the podcasting world, surpassing even Joe Rogan in popularity.

Elise Hu [04:09]:
"How did Mel Robbins overtake Joe Rogan as the most downloaded podcast in America?"

Doree and Elise dissect Mel Robbins' success, attributing it to her timely resonance with the zeitgeist, Scott Galloway's endorsements, and traditional commercial radio techniques like consistent show structure and reintroductions. Elise points out:

Elise Hu [05:24]:
"She actually adopts some of the practices of classic commercial radio, like teases and reintroductions, which help in retaining listeners."

Doree concurs but cautions against oversimplification inherent in popular self-help advice, emphasizing their role as podcast hosts rather than experts.

Doree Shafrir [07:27]:
"They can be helpful, but they're also clearly oversimplified. Just like you should take us with a grain of salt because we are podcast hosts."

Listener Voicemails and Engagement

The hosts transition into listener voicemails, starting with Robin K. from Washington D.C., who advocates for supporting museums and cultural institutions.

Robin K. [10:07]:
"Please contact your congressional representatives to bring back funding to the National Endowment for the Humanities and Institute of Museum and Library Services."

Doree and Elise share personal anecdotes about their visits to the National Building Museum and the National Children's Museum, highlighting the importance of accessible cultural experiences for all ages.

Culinary Creativity: Dinner Solutions

Addressing "Dory's Dinner Dilemma," listeners provided innovative dinner ideas to break free from meal ruts. Doree shares a recipe suggestion involving rice cookers and roasted chickpeas, while Elise praises an Instagram chef known as Easy Peasy Jordan for his one-pot meals inspiration.

Doree Shafrir [21:05]:
"I love roasted chickpeas with smoked paprika. So I'm like, okay, I'm picking up what you're throwing down here."

Another listener recommends food blogger Kelsey Nixon, who offers realistic and easy meal ideas using Trader Joe's products. Doree enthusiastically endorses Kelsey, emphasizing her alignment with the podcast's ethos.

Astrological Insights and Guest Demographics

A significant portion of the episode explores the astrological signs of podcast guests. Doree and Elise reveal an unexpected underrepresentation of Tauruses among their guests, despite a strong presence of Leos and Geminis.

Doree Shafrir [30:03]:
"We have not had any guests who were Tauruses."

A listener identifies as a Taurus, resonating with the description of Tauruses' affinity for self-care and the finer things in life, prompting a humorous acknowledgment from Doree.

Listener [30:20]:
"Tauruses have perfected self care. We love the finer things in life."

Creative Listener Suggestions

The episode highlights a listener's innovative idea for Shark Tank: magnetic-based drinking vessels to prevent spills in car cup holders. Doree encourages the listener to pursue this idea, recognizing its potential.

Doree Shafrir [27:13]:
"This is such a Shark Tank idea. I cannot believe somebody hasn't already pitched it."

Memorable Pop Culture Moments

Doree and Elise reminisce about significant pop culture events that coincided with personal milestones, such as the infamous Oscars slap between Chris Rock and Will Smith during Doree's labor, adding a relatable and humorous touch to their conversation.

Elise Hu [28:16]:
"I was watching the Oscars during my labor, and when the slap happened, I thought I was hallucinating because of my fever."

Upcoming Episodes and Promotions

As the episode concludes, Doree and Elise tease upcoming content, including a full-length episode featuring author Annie Hartnett. They also provide reminders about their various platforms, encouraging listeners to engage through surveys, social media, and their Patreon for exclusive content.

Doree Shafrir [32:27]:
"Come back on Monday where we have a full-length episode with the author, Annie Hartnett, who is so delightful and her new book is so good."

Conclusion

Mini-Episode 439: Here To Be Servicey exemplifies Forever35's commitment to fostering a supportive community through engaging discussions, listener interactions, and practical self-care advice. Doree and Elise's dynamic interplay and genuine responses to listener contributions create an inviting atmosphere, making listeners feel heard and valued.

Notable Quotes:

• Doree Shafrir [07:27]:
  "Just like you should take us with a grain of salt, because we are podcast hosts."

• Elise Hu [05:24]:
  "She actually adopts some of the practices of classic commercial radio, like teases and reintroductions, which help in retaining listeners."

• Doree Shafrir [27:03]:
  "One million dollar idea: Make drinking vessels with a magnetic base for car cup holders to prevent tipping over."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of Forever35's Mini-Episode 439, offering both existing fans and new listeners a glimpse into the thoughtful and entertaining discourse led by Doree Shafrir and Elise Hu.

Transcript

[Dory Shafrir]

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[Elise Hu]

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[Dory Shafrir]

Hello and welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I'm Dory Shafrier.

[Elise Hu]

And I'm Elise Hu and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.

[Dory Shafrir]

And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability. And please remember, we are podcast hosts. We are not experts. We always encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a medical and or mental health professional as needed. And before we get started, I want to remind everyone that we are doing a listener survey. You can find that link in our episode description. It's also linked in our bio on Instagram. It would just, it would really help us out if you could answer the survey. It just takes a few minutes and yeah, we'll be so grateful. Thank you.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, it'll help us with the direction of the show.

[Dory Shafrir]

Totally. So, Elise, you were at TED all last week.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah. And it's so funny. This listener survey reminded me I was having these conversations with other podcasters. There are many podcasters there about how Mel Robbins has overtaken Joe Rogan. Most downloaded podcast in America, or Mel Robbins has often topped Joe Rogan. And it's sort of like, why Mel Robbins? How did that. Who is she? How'd that become a big thing? And I guess she's the gal who has popularized that notion of just let them.

[Dory Shafrir]

Just like if somebody Let them lady.

[Elise Hu]

Yes, she's the let them lady. She's the let them lady. But have you listened to the show? Yeah, so I hadn't either. And I was like, what is Mel Robbins special sauce? And there was somebody who was saying, like, obviously there might be reasons of the zeitgeist, you know, like she just happens to t whatever self helpy need that we happen to have at this moment in time. The other was that Scott Galloway, Professor G. Who's a major podcaster, was talking her up. I think it was Scott Galloway who's been talking her up a lot and mentioning her constantly. And so there was a lot of crossover between the Prof. G. Audience and Dr. Mel Robbins. Is she actually a doctor? I'm not sure. I think she's called Dr. Mel Robbins, though. Listeners, you can school me on this if you're a big Mel Robbins listener. But the third thing, the third point of analysis that I learned about the Mel Robbins show that I think that we could be better at is that she actually adopts some of the practices of just classic commercial radio where she's like, hey, today I have so and so on the show and we're going to talk about that later. You know, like the, the tease stuff. And I'm Dr. Mel Robbins. Like the whole reintroducing who she is.

[Dory Shafrir]

And what the show is.

[Elise Hu]

And so I been very good in at bringing in people who are just casually dropping in for the first time.

[Dory Shafrir]

Interesting.

[Elise Hu]

So for any first time listeners of Forever 35, this is a mini episode. And we have mini episodes every Wednesday. And we start with kind of a just general chat where Dory and I catch up because we're good friends. And then we jump into a listener mailbag, questions from you all. And that happens every Wednesday. And on Monday we have a longer chat where we catch up before we do interviews. So anyway, I might just like a little. I might throw in little reintroductions to who we are and the format of the show for folks just studying from the school of Dr. Mel Robbins.

[Dory Shafrir]

What? I hope it sounded annoying for people. That's. That's the thing.

[Elise Hu]

It's like, how is that. Well, commercial radio works, though. I mean, people. So what somebody was saying to me was that because they have to hold your attention for like an entire drive time, or you have these DJs that have shows for like two hours long. You never know when somebody's actually getting in the car and starting to tune in.

[Dory Shafrir]

Right.

[Elise Hu]

So you're getting a lot of like, re IDs. I don't think we need to re ID ourselves, but we might need to remind folks kind of what our, what the show format is. And so that is one area that I do want to learn from. From Mel Robbins.

[Dory Shafrir]

From. Yeah.

[Elise Hu]

Besides just letting people do what? Just let them.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah. There's been like, as I think happens with a lot of these sort of like pop psychology kind of things that enter the zeitgeist. There's been a big backlash to her and like the let them concept. And I just think like, as with all these things, they can be helpful, but they're also clearly, like oversimplified.

[Elise Hu]

Yes. They cannot solve individual problems across the board. So take it with a grain of salt. Just like you should take us with a grain of salt, because we are podcast hosts.

[Dory Shafrir]

We are podcast hosts and not medical.

[Elise Hu]

And, or mental health professionals.

[Dory Shafrir]

No, no, no. Although, you know, I am a, a, a paid advice columnist.

[Elise Hu]

That's true.

[Dory Shafrir]

So I am a professional advice columnist.

[Elise Hu]

That is true. So if you have any work questions, you don't just have to write into Slate or just have the option of writing into Slate. You can also write into us here at Forever 35.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yes. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And my Slate column comes out every Tuesday. Gotta you gotta remind me anything you, anything you want to plug.

[Elise Hu]

Nope, I don't have, I don't have any like MLM schemes. I'm running Lularoe. Lularoe. Just kidding.

[Dory Shafrir]

Well, you do host TED Talks Daily, which I feel like is a big deal.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, if you're not already tuned in or aware. I host a daily podcast called TED Talks Daily and I introduce a fresh TED Talk talk each day, but also have fuller conversations with some of these speakers offstage about their big ideas. And last week was the annual TED Conference, the Big ted, the Super TED in Vancouver. And there was a lot of discourse and dialogue, as we have had over the last couple of years, about AI and just how transformative it is, but also that like the cows out of the barn or the trains left the station on how transformative this technology is and it's like upending our lives. And yet the engineers have lost control over how to stop it or how it even works at a certain level. And it can be deceptive now and it's also self preserving. So we have maybe crossed the threshold of being able to turn it off. And that's really scary. But if you are, or if you are interested in a lot of the questions around AI and its implications, we're having those over at TED Talks Daily.

[Dory Shafrir]

Very cool. Okay, well, Elise, before we take a break, I do want to play actually I want to play a couple of voicemails.

[Elise Hu]

Oh, okay, great.

[Dory Shafrir]

If that's okay with you.

[Elise Hu]

Some pre break voicemails. Awesome.

[Dory Shafrir]

Some pre break voicemails, indeed. All right, here is our first voicemail.

[C]

Hey, this is Robin K. I had to pause the pod. I'm actually located in the Washington D.C. area. I was just listening to your mini episode and I work in the museum field. So I wanted to say I really do hope. Tori went to go check out the National Building Museum with Henry. I have friends who work in collections there behind the scenes. They have some really great exhibits. Also, a quick comment that I have a lot of friends who work for the Smithsonian. They're still trying to fight the good fight and the behind the scenes. So please keep that in mind when you're walking around and taking in the exhibits. They're very aware of what's happening right now and they are trying to make sure that our history is being told to the best way that they can. Also a quick note that if you can contact your congressional representatives to bring back funding to the National Endowment for the Humanities and Institute of Museum and Library Services. I benefited from jobs from both of Those grants throughout my 20 odd career. 20 odd long career in museum field. It's been very disheartening lately, but all of us in the museum field are really still trying to make sure that all histories, all people are being represented. So please do reach out to your congressman people about bringing back funding to these important fields. So anyway, thanks Robin. Living in the Washing, Washington D.C. area. 46 years old. Really like the pod. Thanks again. Hope you enjoy.

[Dory Shafrir]

Bye.

[Elise Hu]

Well, thank you, Robin. Yes. Call your reps. Call your reps. Call your reps. Don't let American history be erased.

[Dory Shafrir]

No, please. We, we did go to the National Building Museum.

[Elise Hu]

Yay.

[Dory Shafrir]

I'm so glad Henry liking. He liked it. He liked it. I would say the bigger hit though was the National Children's Museum.

[Elise Hu]

Oh yeah, that's classic. Yes. Great.

[Dory Shafrir]

He, you know, he, he loved. They have a Lego exhibit at the National Building Museum called Brick City and you can like build stuff. And he was into that for quite some time actually like longer than I thought. But the rest of the National Building Museum was like a, like just slightly too old for him and. Too old.

[Elise Hu]

Okay.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah. And he was like, I want to go. The National Children's Museum was amazing. And he was like we were there for quite some time and.

[Elise Hu]

Oh good.

[Dory Shafrir]

Felt like it was right at his sweet spot. Like great, this is a perfect museum for like a five or six year old child. So I, but like my nine year old niece like loved the Building Museum and like went to a bunch of different exhibits there and it felt more like she was, she was, it was more like appropriate for her I think like the whole museum. But I really liked it and wished I had more time there without my child. But you know, also we went to Air and Space and half of Air and Space is closed. So that was kind of a bummer. Like both because we couldn't see half of the museum but also because I think that made it extra crowded because it didn't seem like they were limiting. They hadn't, didn't seem like they had changed the number of people they were letting in. So it was, it was extremely crowded and some of the cooler stuff I think is, is closed until like 2026 when it will become the Bezos Wing.

[Elise Hu]

That's, that's real. That's real.

[Dory Shafrir]

Oh, it's real. Yeah. Okay, we are going to take a break and when we come back. See, see, I'm trying.

[Elise Hu]

See, you're doing it. It's so good.

[Dory Shafrir]

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[Elise Hu]

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[Dory Shafrir]

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[Elise Hu]

So a few weeks ago, Dory put out an all call for easy dinner ideas because she was in a dinner rut that we have now called Dory's Dinner Rut. Dory Dinner Dilemma.

[Dory Shafrir]

Dory's Number Dilemma. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Dory's Dinner Dilemma. Look, the listeners have really rallied for me.

[Elise Hu]

Thank you.

[Dory Shafrir]

Thank you listeners, and I am grateful. Okay, this listener says if you have a rice cooker or instant pot, you can add rice, but then also like any seasonings, you can also add a whole bag of frozen veggies. This listener does curry powder, garlic powder, veggie broth and turmeric. And they say just cook until the rice is done. Meanwhile, roast a lot of chickpeas with olive oil and smoked paprika in the oven in a two big casserole dish. Just Sidebar for me, Dory, I love roasted chickpeas with smoked paprika. So I'm like, okay, I'm picking up what you're throwing down here. Okay. And then when everything is done, you dump the rice and the veggies in the casserole. You mix everything together. You salt at the table or don't. Yeah, no cutting. You can make it pseudo Mexican with beans, cumin and lime juice or pretend Thai with coconut Milk and curry paste. If your cooker is really big, you could skip the legumes and just add crumbled tofu straight to the cooker. Interesting.

[Elise Hu]

Okay, this is exactly. This kind of reminds me of my favorite Instagram chef, who I think is 8 years old. Easy peasy Jordan. Easy Peasy Jordan is approximately my cooking level and he makes so much delicious Japanese or Korean inspired dishes. Just in the rice cooker, it's always one pot. Cooks up a bunch of stuff, throws it in the rice cooker, Bam. Very inspiring.

[Dory Shafrir]

Easy peasy Jordan. I. I love a one pot. Just love a one pot. Moving on. This listener says that when they're in a dinner or recipe rut, they check cookbooks out at the library. It's a great free way to spice up the meal rotation for a bit and try new things without buying a new cookbook. I find searching recipes on the Internet can be overwhelming a lot of the time, and looking through a new cookbook or two helps narrow down the choices.

[Elise Hu]

Great idea.

[Dory Shafrir]

This idea. Great idea.

[Elise Hu]

Did you know you can also check out power tools at the library, Elise?

[Dory Shafrir]

I did know that. I have.

[Elise Hu]

I did not. Okay. I did not know that I could go check out a drill.

[Dory Shafrir]

This is. This is a thing that comes up periodically in, like, various mom groups. I'm in, like, hey, did you know that you can check out power tools from library? And I did actually, like, once look into it just like out of curiosity. And they like, everything seemed to be checked out. I imagine it's like, popular to check out tools from library. But you know, where. Where we live, there's two or I live. There's two library systems that I have, like, easy access to. One is the Los Angeles Public Library, the city library, but then there's the Los Angeles County Library system, and they have a whole different array of things. So, you know, you can always, like, look at both. Okay, moving on. Another voicemail.

[D]

Hi. So I was calling that Dory's dinner rut, and there is a food blogger that I follow. She used to be on Food Network. Her name is Kelsey Nixon. So it's K E L S E Y N I X O N. That's what she is on Instagram. She even has a little podcast called Kitchen Prescription. It's really short. Every week she will give you some tips and some things she's making. She does have a recipe club you can pay for, which I have not done, although it sounds awesome. But she will often give really easy meal tips on her Instagram. She uses Trader Joe's products all the time, which I feel like totally aligns with you guys. And often those are like five ingredient meals. She's all about getting meals on the table. She has three young kids and anyway, I just feel like it'd be something that a lot of people could follow and enjoy. She often will let you get a recipe for free on certain posts. If you just comment, she'll send you the link so you could even try some of her recipes and see what you think. But I just think she's a really fun follow and really like realistic for getting dinner on the table. Okay, thanks.

[Dory Shafrir]

Bye.

[Elise Hu]

Good.

[Dory Shafrir]

Thank you for this. I love Kelsey. In fact, I would describe her as a friend of the pod. She has always been very supportive of both of my podcasts and she's just like a lovely human. I met her once in Portland. Kelsey, if you're listening, let me know if that's correct. I think she used to live and then she moved to la. But she is lovely and has a great Instagram and I, I endorse this recommendation.

[Elise Hu]

Love it. Well, now I have a new follow follow. Because I didn't know about this. Had you not been in Dory's Dinner Dilemma trademark then we wouldn't have gone down all these roads of like easy dinner ideas. And it's true food and food Instagrammers.

[Dory Shafrir]

So yes, yes, yes. So thank you.

[Elise Hu]

It's really a service to us all.

[Dory Shafrir]

It is truly a service to us all. And you know, we, we are just here to be servicy. Elise, let's take another little break.

[Elise Hu]

What happens when we come back door?

[Dory Shafrir]

Well, we have a million dollar idea from a listener.

[Elise Hu]

Okay.

[Dory Shafrir]

I'm just saying. And some astrology talk.

[Elise Hu]

Okay. So stick around. We'll be right back.

[Dory Shafrir]

Stick around. Okay. We have returned. This listener had some feedback on a recent casual chat that we had on Patreon 1. Just a reminder.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dory Shafrir]

To know what she's talking about.

[Elise Hu]

Now we're getting so tease happy. But you can just go to patreon.com forever35 and join us where we have casual chats every Friday.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yes.

[Elise Hu]

And you'll be in on the more. More exclusive conversations.

[Dory Shafrir]

Very exclusive. All right. One million dollar idea. Instead of exterior car cup holders, someone should make drinking vessels, water bottles, travel mugs, regular mugs for the free muggers, etc that have a magnetic base. That way when you set it on top of the car, it won't tip over and fall off. No need to pay me, but please thank me when you present this idea on Shark Tank.

[Elise Hu]

This is such A Shark Tank idea. I cannot believe somebody hasn't already.

[Dory Shafrir]

This is so funny.

[Elise Hu]

Pitched it. We're on to something.

[Dory Shafrir]

Two pop culture events that happened during your labor. The Chris Rock slash Will Smith slap Oscars was on when I was in labor with my son. I will always remember watching it in my labor and delivery room also because that was the last Academy Awards where I had seen any of the movies. Lol.

[Elise Hu]

The first time I ever got Covid was that night of the Oscars of the Slap.

[Dory Shafrir]

And so I was like, I had.

[Elise Hu]

102 temperature and was like sweating, profusely sweating. And then I was in that sort of fugue state when you're really feverish. So I looked up at my TV and I was watching it with the sound on it, but the sound dropped out. As I'm watching the Oscars after the slap, and I was like, the sound dropped out. I don't know if this is real. And then I think I saw Will Smith come out of the audience and slap the host, but I think I'm hallucinating. Like, I thought I was hallucinating for hours until the news headlines came out about it.

[Dory Shafrir]

So. Oh my God, that's so funny.

[Elise Hu]

So we share that slap night as being a memorable night in common listener.

[Dory Shafrir]

Indeed. On our Patreon, we do this Forever 35 questionnaire, which is like a little bonus round of questions that we do with our guests. And one of the questions that we ask is, what is your astrological sign? And do you think it fits? The responses to this are always fascinating to me because I would say, and Elise, tell me if this is also your impression. But my impression is that the vast majority of people say that their sign does fit.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, vast majority. I'd say like nine out of 10 guests.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yes, yes. And the one out of 10 are the guests who are like, I don't really follow astrology or you know what I mean?

[Elise Hu]

Right.

[Dory Shafrir]

Like, people are. People are like into their astrological signs anyway. So I thought it would be fun to chart, like, which astrological signs are popular amongst our guests. The results were shocking.

[Elise Hu]

They were shocking.

[Dory Shafrir]

We published them in our newsletter. And since this, I mean, we've been doing the Forever 35 questionnaire since Elise started on the show. So almost a year. Almost a year since then, we have not had any guests who were Tauruses.

[Elise Hu]

It's because you represent the Taurus faction so strongly.

[Dory Shafrir]

What was the other one? It was either Leo or Libra Library. We also didn't have.

[Elise Hu]

It was also missing Libra.

[Dory Shafrir]

There's a lot of Leo guests and a lot of Gemini guests.

[Elise Hu]

So we have some astrological sign deij issues.

[Dory Shafrir]

We're gonna have to start asking people's astrological signs before we book them.

[Elise Hu]

Yeah.

[Dory Shafrir]

Okay. So one of our listeners wrote in and said, I'm a Taurus. Taurus, sun and rising. I'm also shocked we're so underrepresented. So often I find myself nodding along to Dory. I would be right at home at Dory's hotel. I mean, Tauruses have perfected self care. We love the finer things in life. We are particular about what we love, but we love it hard and forever. Unless we get betrayed, then we'll remember forever. I mean, this does describe me.

[Elise Hu]

My brother is a Taurus. I feel that. I feel that.

[Dory Shafrir]

Oh, gosh. Yeah, listener. I'll keep you posted. I agree. We Tauruses love the finer things. I mean, my son also Taurus. He loves being cozy. The other night he was like, mama, can we put the bath pillow in the bath so I can relax during my bath?

[Elise Hu]

Make the bath even more relaxing?

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah, he's five. I was like, this is hilarious. So, yes, I feel you, listener. All right, well, that about does it for today's show. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed our teases and.

[Elise Hu]

Thanks for sticking with us.

[Dory Shafrir]

Yeah. Come back on Monday where we have a full length episode with the author, Annie Hartnett, who is so delightful and her new book is so good. It's. It's like, it's such a great novel. If you're looking for a great novel, you have to read her book. It's out April 29th. Okay. Listen to our episode on Monday with her and we'll talk to you soon.

[Elise Hu]

Bye. Talk to you later.

[Dory Shafrir]

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Yeah, absolutely.

[Dory Shafrir]

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