Another Chapter in the Dianna Russini Saga

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Forward Progress - A Chicago Bears Podcast
Episode: Another Chapter in the Dianna Russini Saga
Date: June 30, 2026
Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Matt Abbatacola (312 Sports)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a new development in the ongoing Dianna Russini controversy, questioning her credibility as an NFL insider after body cam footage contradicted a story she told about getting out of a traffic ticket by FaceTiming an NFL coach. The hosts dive deep into what this means for sports reporting ethics, discuss broader implications around insider media practices, and touch on Chicago Bears offseason narratives and NFC North storylines. The show also includes their trademark blend of sharp NFL analysis, lively banter, and classic Chicago sports fan attitude.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Dianna Russini FaceTime Lie and Its Fallout

• [05:21] Matt introduces the latest in the Russini saga, recalling her previously told anecdote of getting out of a traffic ticket by FaceTiming an NFL coach.
• [06:07] They clarify body cam footage: no FaceTime call occurred; instead, Russini showed the officer texts from Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell and claimed to be a Vikings fan, also disparaging their current quarterback.
• Ethics in Reporting: Both hosts agree this incident, alongside others involving Russini, undermines her trustworthiness as an NFL reporter.
  • [08:36] Matt: “...you now have somebody who clearly was having an affair with a coach for a long time, and now in multiple cases... you can't trust her to report anymore.”
  • [09:14] Matt: “That trust is gone. I don’t know that you get that back.”
• Comparison to Other Journalists:
  • [09:31] Referencing Adam Schefter’s lack of concern over the issue, Bernstein and Abbatacola push back, explaining the significance of the potential to sway markets, not just the outcomes.
  • [10:24] Dan: “Just because they didn’t get the outcome they were seeking, doesn’t mean they didn’t break the law and should go to jail, of course.”
• Broader NFL Media Concerns: The discussion highlights ongoing issues of insider access, market manipulation through selective leaks, and calls for more accountability.

2. Chicago Bears Offseason Grades and Expectations

• [14:22] Dan reviews how Russini impacted awards voting as an NFL insider, speculating on possible bias.
• [15:16] Matt and Dan break down Jason La Canfora’s praise for new Bears coach Ben Johnson and quarterback Caleb Williams, skepticism over offensive line improvements, and who will fill key positions.
  • [16:00] Matt: Questions logic behind “better offensive line” claims given personnel changes.
• [17:55] Discussion of the effect national reporters and their “campaigning” have on NFL awards voting, with special emphasis on the Coach of the Year race.

3. Bears Roster Moves: Analysis & Critique

• [18:46] ESPN’s offseason grades: Bears receive a B+; move liked is the DJ Moore trade, the big question mark is not addressing edge rusher.
  • [19:03] Matt and Dan agree the defense and edge remain weaknesses, especially after the retirement of center Drew Dahlman.
• [21:47] Dan brings up the idea of signing free agents Leonard Floyd (edge) and Keenan Allen (WR)—both hosts are skeptical, especially about Allen.
  • [22:54] Matt: “No, no thank you. I’m good on Keenan Allen. Thought he was pretty close to done when they had him last time.”

4. NFC North Roundup & National NFL Prognostications

• [23:33] Bucky Brooks’ NFL.com awards predictions are reviewed—AJ Brown as Offensive Player of the Year (Patriots), Jalen Carter (Eagles) for Defensive Player, and Kyler Murray (Vikings) shockingly for MVP.
  • [24:51] Matt (sarcastic): “Okay. Remember what I said before about admiring the big swing? I’m taking away his schnapps. Who wrote this?”
• [25:57] Bernstein reads Bucky Brooks’ rationale for picking Murray as MVP; hosts are skeptical but appreciate the boldness.

5. Player Health: Chris Johnson and the NFL’s Responsibility

• [32:04] Matt raises the news about Chris Johnson (former Titans RB) diagnosed with ALS and discusses the NFL’s evolving recognition of its link to neurogenic diseases.
  • [33:29] Dan: “2009, he rushed for 2006 yards that year. He averaged 125.4 yards a game… diagnosed with ALS at 40.”

6. NFL Arrests and Character References: Taryion Arnold

• [34:00] The case of rookie Taryion Arnold, recently released by the Lions after a felony arrest, is explored with focus on how character references from figures like Nick Saban impact legal decisions.
  • [35:59] Matt: Reads Nick Saban’s letter to the judge, then notes its impact: “It worked. I write this letter because of the exceptional character I witnessed...”
  • [37:49] Dan: “Nick Saban’s like ‘Hey, I’m not familiar with why he was arrested and that doesn’t matter to me...’”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 05:21 | “Diana Rossini’s lying again.” | Matt | | 06:07 | “The body cam footage is now out... There’s no FaceTime call.” | Matt | | 08:36 | “You can’t trust her to report anymore.” | Matt | | 10:24 | “Just because they didn’t get the outcome they were seeking, doesn’t mean they didn’t break the law and should go to jail, of course.” | Dan | | 14:22 | “One area that she did impact in her time as an NFL reporter is voting for Coach of the Year...” | Dan | | 16:00 | “A better offensive line. Why?” | Matt | | 22:54 | “No, no thank you. No, I’m good on Keenan Allen.” | Matt | | 24:51 | “Okay. Remember what I said before about admiring the big swing? I’m taking away his schnapps.” | Matt | | 33:29 | “2009, he rushed for 2006 yards that year. He averaged 125.4 yards a game... diagnosed with ALS at 40.” | Dan | | 35:59 | “It worked. I write this letter because of the exceptional character I witnessed in Taryion Arnold over the more than six years I’ve known him...” | Matt (quoting Saban) | | 37:49 | “Nick Saban’s like ‘Hey, I’m not familiar with why he was arrested and that doesn’t matter to me...’” | Dan |

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Pop Culture & Banter

• [03:07-04:30] Playful mockery of Matt’s Detroit Lions fishing shirt, and a zany Muppets musical tangent.
• [25:29-32:00] Extended riff on novelty apple-flavored beers (“Bapple,” “Keystone Apple”), poking fun at beer marketing and American jingoism.
• [29:23] Classic road food confessions: “Munchos and the Slim Jim. And then I forget… was it an energy drink? Was it a Red Bull?” (Dan)

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Important Timestamps

• [05:21] Dianna Russini traffic stop lie discussion begins
• [08:36] Broader discussion on credibility and NFL media ethics
• [14:22-16:52] How media narratives and voting may affect Bears awards chances
• [18:46-20:20] Bears offseason grades, roster holes, and OL future
• [21:47-22:56] Possible veteran free agent signings (Leonard Floyd, Keenan Allen)
• [23:33] National awards predictions (Bucky Brooks)
• [32:04] Chris Johnson ALS news and NFL’s concussion settlement
• [34:00-38:06] Taryion Arnold case, Nick Saban character letter, and legal/football fallout

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by its conversational, irreverent Chicago sports tone, with heavy use of sarcasm, inside jokes, and direct, critical assessments of both NFL personalities and Bears management. The hosts seamlessly blend sharp football insight with humor and cultural references, making it as entertaining as it is informative.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

This episode provides a no-nonsense look at major ethical questions facing contemporary NFL reporting, highlights implications for the Bears’ 2026 season, and demonstrates how player conduct and front office moves shape a team’s outlook. If you want to keep your finger on the true pulse of Bears fandom, Dan and Matt’s mix of skepticism, loyalty, and wit is unmatched.

Transcript

[Matt Abaticola]

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[Dan Bernstein]

What? Why are you looking at me like that?

[Matt Abaticola]

I'm not gonna be partied here.

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't. I would. I. I didn't start it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Certainly wouldn't open the show with you humming the opening to the Muppets. I would never do that.

[Matt Abaticola]

Do do do do do do do do do do do do.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why are you not saying anything to me? I haven't opened the show yet. Don't ignore me. You know I don't like when you ignore. Why? Now you're just being rude. Oh, there's a text message here from Keith. He wants you to come see him. Oh, now you're. Now you're just being a real jerk.

[Matt Abaticola]

I mean, if you're a Bears fan, you're thinking forward, progress. Come on.

[Dan Bernstein]

10.

[Matt Abaticola]

219. 219.

[Dan Bernstein]

Forward, progress. A Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 312 Sports.

[Matt Abaticola]

No making fun of this shirt on this show. We did it on the other show.

[Dan Bernstein]

Fine, but you can't.

[Matt Abaticola]

I mean, go ahead.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't. Well, you should because it's a Detroit Lions fishing shirt.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, it's an awful, awful. It's really bad, and I love it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Now, I knew it was bad from the way you described it, but I didn't expect this Bad. It's bad. It's pretty bad. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

And the other thing, too, is I always say, like, you know, no free ads, and we're kind of. It's a free ad for Discount Tackle and for Z Man, and I don't even really. I don't use Z Man.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but the. The way you described it and the way your family doesn't like it because of all the logos. The logos aren't as oppressive as I was expecting.

[Matt Abaticola]

Have you seen the back?

[Dan Bernstein]

It's just the shirt itself is so bad.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, the back is the bad logo, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

And where did you get this from?

[Matt Abaticola]

Get it from.

[Dan Bernstein]

You got him. I don't know. What's the. What's the patch on the right side?

[Matt Abaticola]

Z Man.

[Dan Bernstein]

And what's the back? Okay, and so you bought this. Well, and that's not even that bad in the back because your hood covers it.

[Matt Abaticola]

It was kind of a throw in. It was. It was.

[Dan Bernstein]

They gave it to you for free?

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, they gave it to me at a discount. I guess it's like, hey, you're. You're already here. You want to just throw in this?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah, sure.

[Matt Abaticola]

Why not?

[Dan Bernstein]

So does Discount Tackle sell anything for full price?

[Matt Abaticola]

It's all a matter of what constitutes full price. It's just they do it out of a warehouse and in such volume. You know what I like to do? I like to patronize park bait.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

But that's.

[Matt Abaticola]

But that's not why you called. Did you see the Diana?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, so now you're talking to me, though. You're talking to me now.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, because you were trying to make me sing the Muppet theme. I'm not singing the damn Muppet theme.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, we can start the show now.

[Matt Abaticola]

Go. It's time to play the music. It's time to light the light.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, so you'll just do it on camera because you want.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's time to get things started on the Muppet show tonight.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's time to put on makeup. It's time to dress up. Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

But I caught you, though. You started doing it and you caught yourself. I did.

[Matt Abaticola]

I did start singing it. Because the thing is, too. The truth is, if you follow me around enough, like around the house or when I'm just out in the hallways here, it's very reasonable that I will just break into the Muppets Theme or

[Dan Bernstein]

song of any kind. That's why we're similar that way very much.

[Matt Abaticola]

I got it from Terry. When Terry would walk the hallways and he would usually use his songs to make fun of somebody that he would just start making. Remember? Ever Tom Couch. And then Terry would make up stories.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Tom.

[Matt Abaticola]

Tom Couch. Tom Couch. Chicken like Terry. You can't.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can't do that. I do it a lot in the car. Even alone, all the time.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a thing.

[Matt Abaticola]

Harmonies at the top of my lungs. Yes, absolutely.

[Dan Bernstein]

But.

[Matt Abaticola]

But this is why you called. Diana Rossini's lying again.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why? Wait, what is she lying about now?

[Matt Abaticola]

Because now, remember the whole thing about how she was pulled over by a cop for speeding?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And she said, let me know.

[Matt Abaticola]

Texting while driving.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let me. Let me. Oh, I'm doing a report. I got a thing I'm doing. Let me call your. Let me call your favorite coach. Right? Isn't that what it was?

[Matt Abaticola]

I mean, FaceTime let you. FaceTime with Brian Dabo.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

Or whoever it was. It was. It was, who's your favorite coach? And she got him on the phone, and she got out of the ticket because she let the cop FaceTime. That was her story. That's what she said. She did.

[Dan Bernstein]

It wasn't.

[Matt Abaticola]

It didn't she?

[Dan Bernstein]

FaceTime? Mike Vrabel.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, I think it was Dable.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought it was Vrabel. Okay.

[Commercial Announcer]

All right.

[Matt Abaticola]

I thought it was Dable and Vrabel.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know.

[Matt Abaticola]

They should go start their own law firm. Vaudeville act. But the body cam footage is now out. So she was on in February with Stu Gotz and company saying that she said. And this was in the New York Times piece, her anecdote that she said that she FaceTimed an NFL coach to help her get out of the ticket. But the video is out. The video has been posted. 7 minutes, 10 seconds, the entire traffic stop. There's no FaceTime call. The officer approaches, she says, I'm an NFL reporter. I just broke that Sean McDermott got fired from the Bills. That's what I was just sending to send a tweet. I was gonna pull over because I have to make calls. I know you don't care, but I wanted you to know my reason why. The officer says, obviously, you were on your phone for a while. I understand you've got a job. Then she said, you know who I was on the phone with? Brian Dable. He wants the job. Next, she asked the officer if he's a fan of the Giants or Jets. I'm actually not a fan of either. The officer says, what's your team. She replies, I'm a Vikings fan. Unfortunately. Rossini then shows him her phone and a text exchange with Vikings coach Kevin o'. Connell. Okay, so she just showed the officer her phone. She also added regarding the Vikings, their quarterback sucks.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, so she never FaceTimed a coach. And you're right, my mistake there on Vrabel and Dable. Dabal. Dabal. Brian Dabal. So she claimed on a podcast that she made the FaceTime call.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. All right. And so then the. Now the body cam footage is out, and she never makes the call.

[Matt Abaticola]

Correct.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. But she did claim to make a call to get out of a ticket.

[Matt Abaticola]

She said she did get out of a ticket. The anecdote was, I mean, I'm so connected. I've got such acts. I heard they laughed about it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

She's like, I got out of a ticket by FaceTiming an NFL coach.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so then the body cam shows that there was a lot of.

[Matt Abaticola]

She made it up.

[Dan Bernstein]

I got it.

[Matt Abaticola]

She made it up.

[Dan Bernstein]

So it's sort of like the. Wasn't it the same, like, save, like, pulled somebody out of a burning car?

[Matt Abaticola]

That was just weird.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Like.

[Matt Abaticola]

Like, if you now.

[Dan Bernstein]

Another untruth.

[Matt Abaticola]

Just to add to whatever. The whole incident and the series of subsequent incidents and revelations has been that you now have somebody who clearly was having an affair with a coach for a long time, and now in multiple cases, whether it was happening to rescue somebody from a burning car when she was just looking after the person's dog, or now specifically on record saying that something happened that didn't happen, you can't trust her to report anymore.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Can you. Can you go back to saying, my observations, my description of things that are happening is reliable and ethical, that trains left. I don't know that you get that back. It's just odd. Just add it to the list of things that are untrustworthy, not what they seem, somehow strange. And I guess Adam Schefter was on a podcast, too, arguing with the hosts about whether or not the league should be investigating some of these communications. And Schefter didn't seem to understand. If you listen to the interview, he didn't even seem to understand what the hosts were saying about, yeah, no, this kind of conversation shouldn't be happening. You've got a market that can be affected by the news, and you can sway an open market by putting certain news in the bloodstream. And Shefter's like, yeah, well, it didn't end up mattering. It didn't end up helping Them, so what's the point? And the hosts are, like, shefty. It's not about what actually happened. It's about what can happen if these things are allowed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Let's say, for example, someone were to rig an election to become an elected official and say they were caught doing that illegal activity, and yet they still didn't win the election. It doesn't mean that they didn't break the law and should go to jail, of course. Just because they didn't get the outcome they were seeking.

[Matt Abaticola]

Of course.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. In some cases, some people do rig it and they do get elected.

[Matt Abaticola]

Right. But this was a case where there could have been a trade market that sent a player to a certain team. It didn't, but it still was their attempt to do that.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

So because it didn't happen that everything's fine.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, well, it didn't happen.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can attempt to murder someone, lie and steal, but if you're not successful, you should be not punished. Right.

[Matt Abaticola]

Is attempted murder not punishable?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, Officer, I didn't kill the man. He's still alive.

[Matt Abaticola]

I missed, right? I'm a terrible shot.

[Dan Bernstein]

I tried to kill him, but I missed. Therefore, I'm innocent.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, but you took six shots at him.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm not a very good shot.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

I'm terrible.

[Dan Bernstein]

Forgot my glasses.

[Matt Abaticola]

I'm just bad, bad gun.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I had it pointed the wrong way. Shot myself.

[Matt Abaticola]

Ow. See? Ow.

[Dan Bernstein]

Guns are dangerous.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, I was doing it while driving, but you're gonna let me out of the ticket? Cause I'm gonna FaceTime you.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. So that's what she lied about.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, I just. It's just another sort of character question, like, what are we doing?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, what are we doing?

[Matt Abaticola]

We'll find out more. They're not gonna investigate anything. And as always, when we start talking about whatever this story was, whatever it is congealed into now, and it's just sort of sitting there like a cold lump. And somebody should be asking, hey, what. What's going on with this? Are we. Are we looking at this? Are we talking about it? Or is anybody acknowledging this? I don't think anything really is going to happen until she decides that. Here comes. That I'm not going to be a reporter anymore. So I got one last paycheck in me, and I'm going to burn everything down.

[Dan Bernstein]

But even then, though, what's the NFL going to do?

[Matt Abaticola]

The NFL won't do anything.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right.

[Matt Abaticola]

Hell, there could end up being a payoff of some kind of. Here, the NFL, Right? If she comes and says, hey, here's what I'm about to drop. Who knows, Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

And here let's have a situation where

[Matt Abaticola]

you don't say anything and the NFL knows that she has a penchant for hyperbole or for gilding this lily that it wouldn't just be stories, it would be stories plus whatever you want to put on them.

[Dan Bernstein]

I still, I still think it's significant. When Mark Schlerith said that everyone's nervous and everyone should be nervous, I would

[Matt Abaticola]

think is now you don't know what she's going to throw in there.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. What she could add. Yeah. And then you come back there and say, well, that's not true. Okay, well, if that's not true. But is this part what is? Oh, well, we don't know. That's partial. But we know for sure that this part's not true.

[Matt Abaticola]

Or they can just, you know, she, she says stuff.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

She goes on podcasts and just makes things up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Matt Abaticola]

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[Guest or Additional Speaker]

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[Matt Abaticola]

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[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Did the scratcher come to your house and hand you a check?

[Matt Abaticola]

No.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

How many scratchers did you hit to get that? I hit a button on Carvana.com once.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay, that's fair.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

It's like the lottery, except you always win.

[Matt Abaticola]

Not like the lottery at all, actually.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

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[Dan Bernstein]

One area that she did impact in her time as an NFL reporter, NFL Insider is voting for Coach of the Year mvp. And one area that we know that maybe was impacted with a vote, which is one vote of many, that Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel did win coach of the Year last year, Correct? Didn't he win coach of the year for his 14 and three season with the Patriots? So another NFL reporter, very well known, Jason Locanfora. This is from Yahoo. Sports. He says this talking about the Chicago Bears. He goes there were some skeptics a year ago about whether the supposed wunderkind coach could make an immediate impact and man, did he. His work with Caleb Williams put a lot of nonsense to bed about that QB's ability and leadership.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

And.

[Dan Bernstein]

And we suspect he takes another leap this season. The Bears also should have a better offensive line and more bite on defense. Johnson commands a room has won this group over and the staff is largely back that they lost non play calling offensive assistant Declan Doyle to the Ravens. But that's not going to hold Johnson back. This is his baby and the Bears have a chance to be the top seed in the nfc. What they did in crunch time wasn't just dumb luck. And if he has Williams playing to the level expected and he quotes another personnel executive who says Caleb will be an MVP candidate, that's going to further boost Johnson's spot.

[Matt Abaticola]

A better offensive line. Why?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I don't know why Lock and Force said that. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Losing Dalman and replacing him with some combination of Bradbury and a third round pick. Second round pick, second round, second round.

[Dan Bernstein]

57. Heinz. Maybe because of the. Because of Darnell's growth.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

You have your tackle. I mean your guards are still there. You have a very serviceable center with a guy of the future maybe. And I mean a lot of people are talking about Braxton Jones at left tackle. I mean, if you're looking around NFL reporters, there's a lot of good things. I don't know if it's. If that's all coming from the Bears.

[Matt Abaticola]

And I don't care what other people are reporting. I just want to know what his logic is because I don't. I think another year under Dan Roshar, another. I don't know. They're also going to coach them better, too.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, is that like, could they coach them even better?

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

So his point was in saying all this is that he believes that Ben Johnson this year, 2026 season will win coach of the Year. That's what Jason Lucken for is saying that he will be the coach of the year.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he might have a better chance of it without Diana Rossini voting for. No. They split that NFC and afc.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't even know.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is there an afc, NFC coach?

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't even know. But it isn't just you take votes

[Dan Bernstein]

away from Ben Johnson. Damn.

[Matt Abaticola]

Isn't just the actual voting. It's the campaigning. Who actually who's mentioning. No, but if you have somebody that's what I'm saying.

[Dan Bernstein]

She's doing that taking votes away from bj. Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

There's another national opinion about your Chicago Bears here. And this was done with the distribution of NFL off season grades by Seth Walder of espn. The NFL off season grades. And I think when you're talking about out of town national level, it's pretty easy to just cleave to the basic narratives here. And the bears get a B plus by this rubric. Biggest move trading wide receiver D.J. moore to the Bills. Move I liked the more trade.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

Move I disliked. Take a guess here. What what do you think this national reporter analyst disliked about the Bears off season so far?

[Dan Bernstein]

It's one of two things. It's either drafting Dylan Thienaman or not addressing the edge position.

[Matt Abaticola]

Move I disliked not adding at edge.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's what it said.

[Dan Bernstein]

Finally, finally somebody has that that opinion.

[Matt Abaticola]

Wait a second here. The Bears are in a pretty tight cap situation, he writes. It's hard not to look at this team and think it could have used reinforcements on the edge.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh boy.

[Matt Abaticola]

The focus will be on quarterback Caleb Williams and the offense, but Chicago's defense is still a question mark. Okay, all right. But they and here's the paragraph about the old line. In early March, center Drew Dahlman made the surprising decision to retire at age. It was a blow as Dahlman was part of a successful offensive line makeover made the year before. The Bears moved quickly in a tight center market, trading for Garrett Bradbury to give themselves a floor at the position. They also drafted Logan Jones, who they hope can take over in the long term.

[Dan Bernstein]

There you go.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't think they hope he can take over in the long term.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh no, it's sooner rather than later.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think they hope that it's not long at all before he takes that job.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think he's the starting center for week one, but I think it's it's well before the midway point of the season.

[Matt Abaticola]

It also would not surprise me to see them give him a series or two, even in some regular season games with the ones. Do you remember when it was when Olin Cruz and Casey Wegman were coming and they did a little bit of that. They weren't quite co starters, but I, you know, I might want to check time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't want to check that season because I and I don't know, maybe they put him in a garden. You know, one thing I remember replacing Jay Lenberg and I'm pretty sure that they wanted to get a look at both of. Because Wegman was good. It was a really good player for a long time, I think. Went to the Chiefs.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abaticola]

After that. But I mean, Cruz obviously better if you're talking, you know, all decade and that kind of thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

But the thing is though, with Ben Johnson, they're not going to waste time. Like if they, if they feel even going in the week one that the rookie is the better start. He will, of course, I mean, nothing's off the table. When you saw what they did in their playoff game, they moved their all world guard to tackle, you know, completely out of necessity, obviously.

[Matt Abaticola]

Is this right? Casey wegman had a 15 year career. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

How many years was he with the Chiefs?

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, he was the Chiefs. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Then two years in Denver, then two years back with the Chiefs.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, long time.

[Matt Abaticola]

The guy started 200 games.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, long time. Chief guy.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know, you talked about not addressing the edge on SI.com. i read an article earlier today. Oh, boy. Mike. Mike Moritis maybe was his article. He mentioned two veterans that are not currently signed. They're free agents, they're available.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And one of those areas that he mentioned was a guy to address the edge. What do you think of this Leonard Floyd?

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't know what he has left.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know either.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, he's. He's put a couple good seasons up there.

[Dan Bernstein]

Won a Super bowl, didn't he, didn't he win a Super Bowl?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, it's.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, was he a top 10 Bears pick?

[Matt Abaticola]

I think he was eighth.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was. Yeah, he was. So that's. That would be top. So yes is the answer.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think I'm gonna check.

[Dan Bernstein]

Was he top 10? No, no, he was eighth.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, I'm trying to remember. Damn it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, that wasn't the question.

[Matt Abaticola]

Ninth. He was ninth.

[Dan Bernstein]

You have the papers. Sorry. He was.

[Matt Abaticola]

He was ninth.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

I was close.

[Dan Bernstein]

So he's a top ten.

[Matt Abaticola]

He. Yeah, he's gonna be right. 30. Yeah. 34.

[Dan Bernstein]

It is.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes. And last year only had three and a half sacks. It looks like he's on the. On the downside, obviously.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. He said Leonard Floyd and he also mentioned wide receiver Keenan Allen.

[Matt Abaticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Who is not with a team right now.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, no, thank you. No, no, thank you. No, I'm good on that. I'm good on Keenan Allen. I thought he was pretty close to done when they had him last time. That's. That's fine on that.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, let's save. Let's save the bad stuff for last. I want to Oh, I also. Hang on. Oh, there's. Well, not bad stuff. Bad guy. The Seth Walder off season grades. He gave the Lions of B, the Packers a B plus and the Vikings of B minus. What was the Bears grade?

[Matt Abaticola]

A.

[Dan Bernstein]

B plus. Also plus. Right? Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wait, here's one for you. This was from NFL.com and this is Bucky Brooks. I know you love Bucky and the

[Matt Abaticola]

stuff he has sometimes. I do.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. He has all of his NFL awards for 2026.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hang on. Offensive Player of the Year, A.J. brown of the Patriots. Defensive Player of the Year.

[Matt Abaticola]

Wait, Offensive Player of the year.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. A.J.

[Matt Abaticola]

brown. A.J.

[Dan Bernstein]

brown from the Patriots.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, look, I admire the big swing on that, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a big swing.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's a big swing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Defensive Player of the Year is Jalen Carter, the Eagles. Okay. Offensive Rookie of the Year, Casey Concepcion, Cleveland Browns wide receiver.

[Matt Abaticola]

Wide receiver out of Oklahoma State, Texas A and M. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sorry. Oh, don't be sorry. Defensive Rookie of the Year, Malachi Lawrence, Cowboys outside linebacker from ucf. And Dan. Most Valuable player, Caleb Williams. No, It's a quarterback, though.

[Matt Abaticola]

Josh Allen.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Matt Abaticola]

Lamar Jackson, NFC North. Jordan Love.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope.

[Matt Abaticola]

Kyler Murray.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abaticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. Remember what I said before about admiring the big swing? I'm taking away his schnapps. Who wrote this?

[Dan Bernstein]

Your guy. Bucky.

[Matt Abaticola]

Bucky Brooks. Bucky. Bucky. Surrender the schnapps.

[Dan Bernstein]

The combination of Murray's spectacular playmaking ability and Kevin o' Connell's creative scheming could quickly remind the football world why this quarterback won the Heisman Trophy at Oklahoma and then went first overall in 2019. No injuries have plagued the former Offensive Rookie of the Year in recent seasons, but Murray's dual threat skills should be enhanced by the Vikings playmakers and play design. After watching KOC Transformers struggling Sam Darnold into a Pro bowler in 2024, I'm confident that the coaching wizard can help the ultra talented Murray regain his magic in Minnesota. Given the 28 year old's powers as a dual threat weapon, the Vikings could reemerge with a potent offense to compliment Brian Flores. Swarming D defense, he meant.

[Matt Abaticola]

What's that? Oh, it swarms every now and then.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just shoots right out on its own.

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Really?

[Dan Bernstein]

Is that what. Keep that away from Uncle Sam.

[Matt Abaticola]

Maybe that was his problem.

[Dan Bernstein]

He has a swarming D also.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes, he has a swarming D. He's

[Dan Bernstein]

trying to stop it.

[Matt Abaticola]

He's like, stay in there.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't shoot out again.

[Matt Abaticola]

He's got a tiny little set of reins on there.

[Dan Bernstein]

Last time he Went to an acrobatics show. He knocked one right off the.

[Matt Abaticola]

What happened by Swarming Dude.

[Dan Bernstein]

Really?

[Matt Abaticola]

How'd you like some sunny D?

[Guest or Additional Speaker]

That's different.

[Dan Bernstein]

I was just gonna say could be a sunny D. A very happy one. Hey, if Murray makes Minnesota a true contender. And if Murray makes Minnesota a true contender. So if you're questioning if he can make them a true contender, you shouldn't be voting for him as mvp.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay, I understand if you want to say he's going to be comeback player of the year. He's gonna have a rebound season here. He's gonna remind people.

[Dan Bernstein]

But MVP, the 8th year pro could add. Could add another major piece of football hardware to his mantle. But remember, it was Matt Bowen predicted Caleb Williams will win mvp.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, I know that Matt isn't day drinking. Well, I don't know that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, no, not during the day. Not during workouts. No, definitely not during work hours. That's why he gets a lot in after work.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's right. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

A whole case of Bush Light. Just. Just making.

[Matt Abaticola]

As long as it comes in a 30 pack.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Well, I saw at the store the other day they have apple flavored Bush Light.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, you're new to Bapple.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

The kids call it Bapple.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's new to me.

[Matt Abaticola]

Bush apple.

[Dan Bernstein]

I would avoid that as quickly as I. Alligator infested water.

[Matt Abaticola]

Did you see? No. The kids love it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Really?

[Matt Abaticola]

It's a huge deal because it's limited and they make. It's like what Coors used to be.

[Dan Bernstein]

But does it taste good?

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't know. They don't care. They're in college.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's true.

[Matt Abaticola]

The other one is. Look.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a good point.

[Matt Abaticola]

My bad. Look this up.

[Dan Bernstein]

What am I looking up?

[Matt Abaticola]

Keystone Apple.

[Dan Bernstein]

Ooh, they call that capel.

[Matt Abaticola]

You have to look at the can. You have to see the commercials because look up Keystone Light apple. Do you see the thing with the eagle wearing the maga hat or what? Wearing a base. It's wearing a trucker hat.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is it real?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, it's real. And it's a bit like they. It's not a maga hat. It's like an American flag bandana and the wraparound sunglasses.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, they really sell this though, right?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes, they do. They really sell that beer apple flavored Keystone Light. And like the commercials, I have sparklers and like this is the most American America that ever. America, Ed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, boy.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's kind of a smart.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah. The case has got. Yeah. The bandana, stars and stripes and it's got a giant apple and it's talons. No, I've never seen this.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, you got to look up the ads. You got to look up the ads.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, this calls for, like, a macho man Randy Savage to be the spokesperson. Wow. Yeah, that. In a Slim Jim. You're good to go, brother. Well, Funyuns and Funyuns.

[Matt Abaticola]

Or.

[Dan Bernstein]

Or no, because you could do like. You could do like a Funyun kebab with a Slim Jim.

[Matt Abaticola]

What about. What do you do with the munchos with a good bag of munchos? They're not potato chips.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, they're potato crisps.

[Matt Abaticola]

They're potato crisps.

[Dan Bernstein]

And for still. You can still get a bag for $2. It's still the best value in snacks.

[Matt Abaticola]

Like a big bag.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, Mariano's. You go to the potato chip aisle, snack aisle, you can still get a $2 bag of Munchos. I'm not saying I've done that and eaten them on the way home from the grocery store.

[Matt Abaticola]

Of course you won't. No, that's only a 711 thing for you, because I've seen that. I say, oh, you know what time. Like, time for what? I'm hungry.

[Dan Bernstein]

Munchos.

[Matt Abaticola]

Munchos and the Slim Jim. And then I forget. There was something else you had in there. Was it. Is it an energy drink? Was it a Red Bull?

[Dan Bernstein]

It was probably a Red Bull. Red Bull.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's what it was.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't drink those anymore.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, Red Red Bull Slim Jim munchos.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. That's a good gas station stop.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's. That's. That's living there. That's. I'm proud of you there.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that's good stuff. Now, I've never seen Keystone Light Apple. Do they have a heavy. Is there a Keystone Heavy?

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't. I don't think so.

[Dan Bernstein]

Man, oh, man. Oh, it's got. Oh, it even has. It's got, like, the Top gun logo with 250 in the. Oh, man. They're really. I bet you this is a big seller. It's gotta be a big seller.

[Matt Abaticola]

How much fun did they have designing it? Like, how much. As long as we're doing this, we might as well do this.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I mean, who's gonna buy it?

[Matt Abaticola]

Like, college kids? Well, music festivals. You don't think, like, people going to, like, riot fest.

[Dan Bernstein]

Look at the way the things dress. That's who they're marketing.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, they're. No, they are. No, they're not. They're marketing. It's a joke. They're not actually marketing to these people at this point.

[Dan Bernstein]

They're not smart enough to realize it's a joke.

[Matt Abaticola]

I know, but that makes it funnier that the whole thing is a bit. I love that. Because they know the stupid people are gonna be stupid anyway. And they'll be, it's all American. I'm gonna buy it. And then they'll be like, oh, they're making fun of jingoism. I'm gonna buy it. Yeah. Their slogan is the most American light apple beer. So they're trying to be more American.

[Dan Bernstein]

4.1% ABV fruit flavored lager made its debut ahead of the summer.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh.

[Dan Bernstein]

So it just came out?

[Matt Abaticola]

I thought it was a couple months ago.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, yeah, May.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, was exactly a couple months ago.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. I want to see sales numbers. What? Do you want something?

[Matt Abaticola]

What?

[Dan Bernstein]

We.

[Matt Abaticola]

It has to pass the Abatic.

[Dan Bernstein]

Know how much they've sold?

[Matt Abaticola]

No, no, no.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm just curious.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I would love to see a state by state breakdown.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, you're. We're saving the bad stuff for last, you said. What bad stuff are we doing?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, no, not well. Not bad stuff, but a bad guy. Oh, wait, we'll save him for last.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did you hear about. And this isn't the bad thing I'm talking about. This is bad, but not the guy. Chris Johnson.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Terrible.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. And if anything else, I know we say this all the time, but I don't remember the extent or not to which the NFL and their doctors have admitted an ALS connection. There finally was an admission regarding cte, but I don't know legally if in fact the NFL has been forced under oath to admit that there is a connection to als. So I don't know what's. What is actionable. I don't know where that stands with whatever veterans have applied for their aid after the fact because all those things become extremely technical.

[Dan Bernstein]

So Chris Johnson, diagnosed with ALS. He's 40 years old. 2009, he rushed for 2006 yards that year. He averaged 125.4 yards a game. He had 408 touches from scrimmage that year, which led the NFL in his career. 11,906 yards from scrimmage. 2008 draft, probably Tennessee. He was the 24th pick overall.

[Matt Abaticola]

What I have from NBC Sports, it says that the NFL has recognized the link between football and neurogenerative diseases, plural. And that ALS is a. An explicitly qualifying condition under the league's unlimited concussion settlement fund. Okay, so that's good. I didn't know if it had reached that. Yeah, but it has.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. And then finally. And this is where we have the. The bad guy talk. But the. We talked about Terry and Arnold. Yes, yesterday.

[Matt Abaticola]

My list too. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

The Detroit Lions have released Terry and Arnold after he was arrested last week on felony charge of armed robbery kidnapping. The team announced this yesterday, obviously after we recorded.

[Matt Abaticola]

But we talked yesterday about the fact that the judge was swayed by defense arguments that his house arrest or his lack of an ankle monitor bracelet should be. Should allow him to go to practices and go to games. And all the Lions are saying is not our practices and not our games. And he. He does remain currently in good standing with the league.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct. So as he was. He was ordered confined to his residence in Tallahassee, Florida, except.

[Matt Abaticola]

And in the river nearby when he

[Dan Bernstein]

would be playing, training and traveling with the Lions or making court related appearances or legal appointments. So at home, house arrest, except for stuff with the Lions or court stuff. And the lion said, well, yep. No, no, thank you. Go find the Rainbow river and jump in and swim with the alligators. That's what you can do.

[Matt Abaticola]

So is a team going to pick him up?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I would say. Okay. Who has a better chance of being with NFL team this year? Brendan Soaresby or Terry and Arnold,

[Matt Abaticola]

or

[Dan Bernstein]

are you more likely to see the golden arches in your menu?

[Matt Abaticola]

I think. Who's more likely? I'd say Sorsby at this point. Correct.

[Dan Bernstein]

But no one's. No one's going to touch Terry and Arnold neither.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, you can't right now.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, and even now, I would say.

[Matt Abaticola]

Did you see what. Wrote a letter for him though?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. If he, if he was. Listen, I mean, let's be honest about the NFL. If he was a starting quality player, somebody would be a different discussion. Different discussion. But the Lions were even talking about him even getting back on the field.

[Matt Abaticola]

So this is the letter that Nick Saban wrote. He sent a letter to the presiding judge and this was trying to persuade him to release him on bail. So this, this worked. This helped. I write this letter because of the exceptional character I witnessed in Terry and Arnold over the more than six years I've known him. Over the years, I have welcomed Taryon into my home and around my family. He has consistently treated my family and my staff with respect, humility, and kindness. In all the time I've known him, he never once gave me cause to question his conduct, his integrity, or his respect for others. I don't ever recall him being involved in any behavior that would be described as aggressive or irresponsible. Based on my experiences with Taryon, I remain committed to supporting him. While I'm not overly familiar with or educated on the charges he's facing,

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know anything about anything, but let him go.

[Matt Abaticola]

I would respectfully ask the court to take into account my experience with Taryon, his character history, and the positive impact he had on our program. And it worked.

[Dan Bernstein]

I was gonna ask you not to read that.

[Matt Abaticola]

It worked. Come on. It sounds like the. I wonder if this is like the letter that Joel Quinville wrote for the abusive coach that got.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, that got him jobs elsewhere.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Brad Aldrich.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abaticola]

I wonder if this is like the Quenville Brad Aldrich letter. I don't know what he was doing. Grooming, insulting. And I don't really know anything about this, but hey, you should hire him. You high school should hire him to work with high school age kids. That that actually happened.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And so Nick Saban's like, hey, I'm not familiar with why he was arrested and that doesn't matter to me because so over many years ago, he was really kind to my family. Let him go.

[Matt Abaticola]

Maybe you should familiarize yourself next time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right? These are some pretty serious charges, Nick.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, I can't speak to any of them.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know anything about that, though.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, I don't know that he was masterminding a kidnapping plot, but nah, that's not the guy. I know he was around my family, wasn't doing that when he was around my family.

[Dan Bernstein]

After authorities said these weren't the people, these aren't the guys. They had nothing to do with stealing your stuff.

[Matt Abaticola]

Now we're gonna beat him up anyway.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, we're gonna kidnap them. We're gonna lure him to a house with a woman, then we're gonna kidnap them. We're gonna beat him with guns and put pistols in their mouths. Long as only that swarming d around, we're gonna be fine.

[Matt Abaticola]

And there's warming D. Put that away, please.

[Dan Bernstein]

Mr. Flores, come get your D, please.

[Matt Abaticola]

I can't help it.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's swarming again.

[Matt Abaticola]

I've got a swarming D. It does that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't look at me. I don't know if that.

[Matt Abaticola]

I didn't take my anti swarming pills today.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so if we hear that during a Bears Vikings game, I'm going to lose it. Swarming d. Yes, but Brian Flores is swarming.

[Matt Abaticola]

Can a single thing swarm? A single thing has to be a part of a swarm.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, it depends how fast it moves because it could look like the illusion of a swarm.

[Matt Abaticola]

That'd be a different verb, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. I like. Why do you got to Bernstein it? I liked it. It was good where it was at. Now you got to ruin it. Now.

[Matt Abaticola]

Bring it back.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, we're done.

[Matt Abaticola]

I ruined it. I killed the joke.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, joke's dead.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, it's not.

[Dan Bernstein]

We had a good thing going, and you just killed it. Well, are we good? Yeah, we're fine.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just end it.

[Matt Abaticola]

Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears an NFL podcast on 312 Sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sports progress is stopped. Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matabet on 312Sports.