Bears Win - One for the Record Book

Summary

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Forward Progress - A Chicago Bears Podcast

Episode: Bears Win - One for the Record Book
Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Matt Abbatacola
Date: November 3, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Forward Progress dives into the Chicago Bears' wild, high-scoring 47-42 victory — a game instantly cemented in the record books for its drama, offensive fireworks, and historic moments. Dan and Matt break down the electrifying fourth quarter, Caleb Williams’ development, Ben Johnson’s play-calling acumen, key individual performances, and where this game stands in Bears and NFL history. The hosts bring passionate fan reaction, expert analysis, and a hefty dose of humor — all while keeping their expectations high.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Colston Loveland Game-Winner

• Loveland’s Touchdown Catch (02:04-03:12, 30:42-32:27):

  • Dan and Matt relive Caleb Williams' remarkable game-winning throw and Colston Loveland’s incredible run-after-catch, weaving past three defenders.
  • Quote:
    “It almost looked like something from an action movie.”
    — Dan Bernstein (02:28)
  • Discussion of the strategy, play design, and timing — Ben Johnson "hunting" a specific defensive look all game to unleash this play.

• Rookie Usage & Opportunity (05:00-05:32):

  • Matt questions why Loveland, a first-round pick, isn’t drawing more targets sooner:
    “If this kid has this ability… why is he not getting more opportunities and more targets?”
    — Matt Abbatacola (05:13)

2. Caleb Williams’ Growth & Expectation Management

• Williams’ Performance Review (17:28-18:14):
  • Ben Johnson praises Caleb for being turnover-free, using his legs to extend drives, and managing crucial moments.
• High Standards for Caleb (19:39-21:37):
  • Matt admits struggling with impatience, holding Williams to an elite NFL standard, not just as a Bears quarterback.
  • Quote:
    “I want him to perform at a level that not many quarterbacks perform… and he’s just not doing it at my speed. But I believe he will get there.”
    — Matt Abbatacola (21:07)

3. Ben Johnson’s Offensive Identity

• Explosive Plays (06:39-07:32):
  • The Bears, under first-year head coach Ben Johnson, lead the NFL in explosive play rate (14.1% of plays go for 20+ yards).
  • Quote:
    “The Chicago Bears by percentage have the most explosive offense in the NFL. Midway through year one of Ben Johnson, I thought that was significant.”
    — Dan Bernstein (06:59)
• Trick Plays & Creativity (23:50-27:31):
  • Ben Johnson treats "trick plays" as routine, designed to exploit defensive tendencies.
    “He doesn’t think of them as trick plays. They're plays… All plays are designed to trick sometimes.”
    — Dan Bernstein (25:23)

4. Locker Room Vibes & Player Personalities

• Victory Speech & Game Balls (10:02-13:32):

  • Lighthearted recap of Ben Johnson’s celebratory locker room routine, players’ reactions, and the youthfulness in the room.
  • Quote:
    “And I know it wasn’t pretty, but don’t apologize for a win in this league, guys. Don’t apologize. We did what we had to do.”
    — Ben Johnson (10:48)
  • Caleb Williams’ basic but earnest "captain" speech and rookie joy (“This is so fun. We got to keep winning…”).

• Player Fun & Youth (13:14-14:12):

  • The hosts note Caleb’s youthful personality — references to doing The Gritty and sounding like a college kid organizing a Madden session.

5. Kyle Monungai's Breakout & Smart Running Back Room

• 176-Yard Rushing Day (17:46-18:41, 39:43-41:49):

  • High praise for rookie Kyle Monungai’s physical, relentless running, and his place on the Bears’ all-time single-game rushing list (#18).
  • Quote:
    “I think the win was just the craziest part. I think that’s the craziest game I’ve been a part of.”
    — Kyle Monungai (36:42)

• Intelligent Room (37:40-38:24):

  • Discussion about the high academic pedigree of the Bears’ running backs (e.g., Brittain Brown’s Duke degree, Monungai’s Big Ten academic honors).

6. Historic Perspective & Statistical Nuggets

• Where Does This Game Rank? (34:27-36:00, 43:52-46:26):
  • The 58-yard TD to Loveland ranks as the fifth-longest game-winning play in NFL history.
  • Bears’ 576 total yards: their sixth-highest ever, and first time surpassing 570 yards since 1980.
  • Reference to famous Bears offensive outbursts, and how this game fits in team lore.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Loveland’s Catch:
  “He’s bounced around between three defenders and is surprised to still find himself on his feet.”
  — Matt Abbatacola (02:04)

• On Ben Johnson’s Philosophy:
  “He was waiting for a very specific coverage. Hunting the coverage, hunting it, sniping it.”
  — Dan Bernstein (04:29)

• On Bears’ Explosive Offense:
  “That’s considered an explosive… It is his fundamental philosophy of offense.”
  — Dan Bernstein (06:39)

• On Locker Room Vibe:
  “And I also have red Gatorade… bring Cool Ranch. And we’re going to do a rebuild.”
  — Dan Bernstein, joking about Caleb’s "giant child" energy (14:15)

• On Williams’ Development:
  “He’s not being graded as a Bears quarterback… it would be silly and insulting to compare the number one overall draft pick under Ben Johnson to a history of Bears quarterbacks. Correct? I’m not doing that.”
  — Dan Bernstein (20:29)

• On Trick Plays:
  “I think to him they're just plays… all plays are designed to catch the defense, show the defense something they don't know.”
  — Dan Bernstein (25:23-25:59)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Colston Loveland TD Play Recap: 02:04-03:12, 30:42-32:27
• Discussion on Rookies & Targets: 05:00-05:32
• Explosive Plays Stat & Bears’ Offense: 06:39-07:32
• Locker Room Audio & Ben Johnson’s Speech: 10:02-13:32
• Caleb Williams’ Growth Expectations: 19:39-21:37
• Trick Play Philosophy: 23:50-27:31
• Ben Johnson & Caleb Williams’ Postgame Comments: 15:13-18:14, 27:41-28:44
• Kyle Monungai’s Career Day: 17:46-18:41, 39:43-41:49
• Bears Historic Offensive Output: 43:52-46:26

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Podcast Tone & Style

• Passionate, knowledgeable, and unfiltered — Dan and Matt combine serious analytical breakdowns with the heartfelt emotions of lifelong Bears fans.
• Frequent friendly ribbing, pop culture nods (action movies, video games), and self-awareness about the "curse" and history of Bears football.
• High standards for the team; unwilling to accept merely relative progress.

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Final Takeaways

• This was a defining, record-book Bears win: dramatic, flawed, but full of hope and offensive promise.
• Caleb Williams and Colston Loveland continue to emerge, even as the hosts demand more rapid growth.
• Ben Johnson’s philosophy and locker room leadership are changing the franchise’s narrative.
• The Bears’ next stretch (Giants, Vikings, Steelers, Eagles) offers a proving ground.
• Celebrate the win — but always expect more.

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For passionate Bears fans or NFL observers, this episode highlights why 2025 might be a turning-point season for the Chicago Bears, offering both instant-explosion offense and a vision for the future.

Transcript

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[Matt Abaticola]

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[Matt Abaticola]

Hello.

[Dan Bernstein]

Chicago Bears are now five and three after two quarters.

[Matt Abaticola]

Dan of the season. The Bears are now five and three.

[Dan Bernstein]

And coming off a memorable win. However you want to slice it. Now that we're fully recovered from having lived through that and still watching that Colston Loveland play over and over again, it's amazing that he's, that he stayed upright. However, those, those forces. Why watch it again.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, I just, I just watched it actually, and it was an unbelievable throw by Caleb. Perfect throw. Catches the ball within a triangle of three defenders. They were waiting for that defense the entire game to unleash that play in that route. Throws a beautiful ball, beautiful catch. Gets hit like a. He's, I mean, he's bounced around between three defenders and is surprised to still find himself on his feet.

[Dan Bernstein]

It almost looked like something from an action movie. When you know the bad guys, first of all, they can never shoot. They're. You're always seeing the little ricochets and the bullets all around the protagonist. But they're always, they're always bad at shooting. And then when they try to grab, it's like they're so close you could. I don't know how he came out of that. I don't. Yeah, but he did. And I'm not going to forget that play. We'll debate forever. Maybe later. The bull The Bulls. The. The. The Bears.

[Matt Abaticola]

Hey, eighth best team in the NBA.

[Dan Bernstein]

Stop, Stop.

[Matt Abaticola]

Their eighth best team, baby. Leading the East.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's go according to one power. That's why you don't bother with power rankings. That's crazy town.

[Matt Abaticola]

But it's.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's certainly fun, I can tell you that. But we'll remember that Colson Loveland play the first time. We're like, okay, first round draft pick they had just embarrassed him with the graphic that compared him to Tyler Warren. And then what did Archuleta say? He's like, and it's great that Colston Loveland doesn't get bothered by these things.

[Matt Abaticola]

Like what?

[Dan Bernstein]

Production? Yeah, he's not concerned about how many yards he has.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think he was saying he doesn't get bothered by comparison. Well, maybe that's what he was going after.

[Dan Bernstein]

I would like my players to be bothered by lack of production. I would like my players to be very concerned with. Am I catching footballs and scoring points in football games.

[Matt Abaticola]

So did he get more opportunities because Cole Comet went out?

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't know.

[Matt Abaticola]

I. With a, With a bad head. And if. If so, okay, fine, I get it. But if not.

[Dan Bernstein]

By bad head, you mean traumatic brain injury?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, just confirming.

[Matt Abaticola]

If not, then why is this taking so long? Why are we not calling? Ben Johnson said last week he needs to call other routes, other plays where guys. Where other guys are the primary receivers more than just Roma Dunes A. If that's the case, why not sooner? If that's what this kid can do catching the ball, why not sooner?

[Dan Bernstein]

Then he will say and has said that he was waiting for a very specific coverage. And I loved how he phrased that. Hunting the coverage, hunting it, sniping it. Waiting, waiting, waiting to find that opportunity. Who knows? Had it been Cole commit and he got that coverage, would he have run it from. From the. The same place on the field, the same call? The same thing with that guy? I don't know. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

And I don't mean just like. I'm not talking about that play only specifically and that, that touchdown. I just mean the targets.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think their targets are actually up over last year when it comes to tight end percentage.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. Our Lovelands are where Lovelands. I guess I can just look at all this stuff. I just. I just think if this kid has this ability which we've talked about and which is why they drafted him in the top 10 of the first round, why is he not getting more opportunities and more targets?

[Dan Bernstein]

Sometimes it's really hard as a rookie and you tight end Is a really difficult position.

[Matt Abaticola]

You remember the first pass that Caleb Williams threw in that game.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was. Was that on the. On the boot?

[Matt Abaticola]

It was a seam. Route 285.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abaticola]

And what did he do? He dropped it. Yep. It was a good pass. Hit him in the hands.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, your point?

[Matt Abaticola]

The point is if the dude's not going to make those catches, stop throwing in the damn ball. If he's helping your run game out more, great.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let him do that blocking really well.

[Matt Abaticola]

And he has been. And I know Colson needs to pick up his run block game a little bit. You know he did okay. He got in guys ways yesterday which is fine.

[Dan Bernstein]

But if he has those hands and.

[Matt Abaticola]

That ability to catch and run, let's get him the ball. Let's get him more targets then.

[Dan Bernstein]

And we definitely don't need more mic time for Colston Loveland. We'll get to that in just a second. Here's a little note. Nate Tice of the Athletic Football show put this out. The Chicago Bears explosive play rate and I believe this is a percentage of plays that go for 20 or more yards.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's correct.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's considered an explosive. It's a word you hear Ben Johnson use all the time about wanting more explosives. It is his fundamental philosophy of offense. They're at 14.1%. Where do you think that ranks currently in the NFL?

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, I'm going to go with my original guess and say number one.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're correct. The Chicago Bears by percentage have the most explosive offense in the NFL. Midway through year one of Ben Johnson, I thought that was significant. That's running plays, that's passing plays. However you want to count those 20 yard chunks and boy, the Bengals seem to have a season's worth. Yesterday the Bengals were as explosive as I can imagine. Imagine. My guess is that's got to be the record this year. It's got to be the high this year for one team in a game.

[Matt Abaticola]

I'm sure it did to the Bears that with the Bears when it was 24 to 20 with eight, 8:11 to go in the third. The explosive plays at that point were the Bengals five. The Bears won that again, not going to. You know a win is a win is a win in the NFL. They're all hard to get.

[Dan Bernstein]

But Johnson say that you never apologize for a win. I believe I heard him say he.

[Matt Abaticola]

Said something different but that. Yeah, it was apparently edited on their social media. But crudes number five, catching that ball. That dude is just man, if they had like and we said this yesterday in the post game. And if you don't, if you don't join the post game show. Give us a, give us a listen.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're missing out.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're missing out. It's a lot of fun. Raw nerves and heavy breathing. Heavy, real emotion.

[Matt Abaticola]

Go to ford product, our YouTube channel, and we stream live after every Bears game. So we'll have one this Sunday, right around 3 o' clock after the Bears Giants game is over. But watching, watching Higgins and watching Jamar Chase, if they had any semblance of a defense that's an NFL defense, that would be something forward.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Matt Abaticola]

Wait, I'm so excited.

[Dan Bernstein]

We've got a lot of Bear sound coming your way. Some NFL news and notes and a little bit of Bears history that I thought was fascinating.

[Matt Abaticola]

Is this making me feel bad? Because usually Bears history makes me feel bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think so.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. All right, good. Because I know not. It's not what I give you. I give you something from Bears history and it makes you feel bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I. What did I say last week? I said it was, it was an all a Bears all time, all time sacks list that I said was. Had all the hall of Famers on there. That was. It was not one of the Bears list. That makes you want to throw up.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes. This is not, this is not one of those.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're fine. It's okay to eat.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's a victory Monday.

[Dan Bernstein]

It is okay to eat before we do this. It's celebratory.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right. You want to get some audio?

[Dan Bernstein]

I can't wait.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, so let's, let's do the locker room stuff first. This is post game locker room. All right? This is Ben Johnson being Ben Johnson at his best.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hell yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Hold up a second.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hold up a second. Oh, no, no, I found it. Five. Right there. Okay, can you pause it?

[Matt Abaticola]

Pause it.

[Dan Bernstein]

So what happened there? Okay, so Ben Johnson, he acted as if he had misplaced something in his pockets. And he was shuffling around in his, you know, hand and here. And look. Where is it like patting himself down and there's like, oh, I found it. And he pulls out five fingers.

[Matt Abaticola]

He found five.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right? So I've done that before. Where I Said, you know what? I've got something. Wait, I can't find it. I can't find it. Oh, here it is.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, it's a one, and it's a.

[Dan Bernstein]

Specific one, but he did it with.

[Matt Abaticola]

The five because it was five wins, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Cute.

[Matt Abaticola]

Found it.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I know it wasn't pretty, but don't apologize for a win in this league, guys. Don't apologize. We did what we had to do. We said we had to go three and one in the second quarter, and we did that. Yes, sir. We'll talk about the next quarter coming up tomorrow. Don't worry about that quite yet, all right? Enjoy this win. It took all 60 minutes for that one. Here's what I know about this group. Here's what I know.

[Ben Johnson]

If it is close in the fourth.

[Dan Bernstein]

Quarter, if it's close in the fourth.

[Matt Abaticola]

Quarter, you better watch out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, two game balls here, all right? First one's gonna be this. 26 carries, 6.8 average. I appreciate everybody in this room, man. Nobody knew what I was going to do, but I told you I was going to step up to the plate. Whatever I got to do to get six catches. Who keeps saying, yes, sir?

[Matt Abaticola]

I think it's Caleb.

[Dan Bernstein]

Caleb, you're saying, yes?

[Matt Abaticola]

I think so. That was my initial. Initial thought to it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, it might be.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Because he's right. He's right behind Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson. He's right behind him. Okay, so maybe. Maybe it's. Maybe it's Caleb.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. 118 yards, two touchdowns.

[Matt Abaticola]

Here's your guy. Now. Listen to this.

[Dan Bernstein]

You want to hear a stirring speech? Hey, I appreciate you guys. I love you guys. Bro, like, this is so fun.

[Matt Abaticola]

We got to keep winning, keep going in, working every day. Yes, sir.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's keep. Never let it rest.

[Matt Abaticola]

Never let it rest.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good. Gets better, gets better, gets better. Bears on three. One, two, three.

[Matt Abaticola]

So, Captain Basic, so when he. When he enters the center of the room, win games.

[Dan Bernstein]

And let's keep going. And this is fun. San Diego's high school football rules.

[Matt Abaticola]

I will say that he. He entered the center of the room by doing the. The gritty. The gritty. Yeah. So just keep that in mind.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Ben Johnson]

He.

[Dan Bernstein]

He hit the gritty.

[Matt Abaticola]

He was. He was hitting the gritty. Yes, for sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

He hit the gritty.

[Matt Abaticola]

And it's. It's funny because it just. I'm watching that, and I'm like, he's not that far off from, like, a lot of the. The boys I'm around in the football program. Tell me about it. And it's, he's, I looked at his.

[Dan Bernstein]

Face, I'm like, oh, he's a giant child.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes, he still is a child.

[Dan Bernstein]

Totally.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes. Still is a child.

[Dan Bernstein]

I keep thinking that looks good for him. Pictures in the World Series.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, I know. Well, what was savage? What is he, 21?

[Dan Bernstein]

20, 22? I think they keep showing his parents. Yeah. Yeah. But Coley calls. You guys are awesome. And does somebody want to come over and play Madden later?

[Matt Abaticola]

Get you online.

[Dan Bernstein]

Bring Doritos this time. Yeah. Bring Cool Ranch. And we're going to do a rebuild. And, and I also have red Gatorade.

[Matt Abaticola]

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[Ben Johnson]

Just really proud of the, the group and how resilient they were. There's a number of things that, that weren't pretty, that weren't clean, and yet I think what you learn about this group through the first half of the season is that they are an extremely resilient bunch. They show up and they're going to fight you all 60 minutes and they really don't waver. I give them a lot of credit for their poise with the way that game went. You know, you're up two touchdowns in the fourth quarter and you know, they get the onside kick, they take the lead and it's easy, it's easy to fold. And our guys didn't do that. They, they kept the faith and found a way to come out on top. And so there'll be a lot of tape that we can coach off of and we can clean up. I think the best thing is you go in the locker room and it's an exciting win like that. And yet there's a number of guys that are pretty disappointed with how they played. And so I think that's the sign of a good football team is they can recognize it immediately and we're going to be able to clean it up and get it fixed. So, you know, you don't apologize for winning in this league. It's too hard week in and week out, especially on the road. And so, you know, it's.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's.

[Ben Johnson]

As a coach, you don't. You don't take these things for granted.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, you shouldn't. But it's not the sign of a good football team. I mean, you got lucky. You got lucky that you played a shitty team. I mean, the worst defense in football, man.

[Dan Bernstein]

So you're asking him to apologize for a win. He's like, no, I'm not.

[Matt Abaticola]

But I'm just like, that's. That's not the sign of a good team.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did anybody else think this too?

[Matt Abaticola]

Be like, hey, let you know what? They gave us this opportunity. We took it Rome. We didn't play our best. We got the win.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's the way we became resilient bunch.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's it. Do you say resilient bunch, but.

[Dan Bernstein]

Brazilian bunch. Brazilian bunch.

[Matt Abaticola]

Sorry. That's all right. No, don't be sorry.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know who I don't have to apologize for? Gen X reference.

[Matt Abaticola]

You shouldn't be sorry for having fun. Fun in life. Because, you know, too many people just. They stop having fun in life, Dan.

[Dan Bernstein]

Do they?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Ben Johnson's not, though. He definitely. Ben Johnson has a lot of fun. He really does. He likes having fun. Hell, yeah, I do. All right. Ben Johnson was asked about Caleb Williams and his performance.

[Ben Johnson]

Here's what I know is he threw some touchdowns, he didn't throw any interceptions. And I thought he used his legs to help us extend drives as well. So I was pleased with that.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, there's some touchdowns, didn't throw any interceptions, and he used his legs to extend some place. How about on running back Kyle Menongai?

[Ben Johnson]

I'm not surprised. That's kind of about his performance, who he's been since he's been here.

[Dan Bernstein]

Very reliable.

[Ben Johnson]

He's going to do which what you're coaching and he's hard to bring down. I think that showed up what he was in. Rutgers was the bell cow for that team. And he proved today that he can carry that load if called upon.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, it was a great game for Common on Guy. And again, we can talk about the defense. One of the worst defenses in the league.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're having a really difficult time enjoying this.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, I know. I'm enjoying a great deal. I'm just going to say, despite all of that, you still got to go out and carry the ball and execute and run and you got to break tackles and you got to not give up and not Stop. And he did that. He did that. Regardless of what the competition was, this is still the NFL. You've still got to go out and do it and execute plays. And. And he did that time after time after time. And that. That's great. That's great for him. And I'm really, really happy that Kyle Menangai had this game.

[Dan Bernstein]

And what I like is that now you have a percentage of Giants practice time. Where Brian Day ball is needs to say this week, hey, it's going to take more than one person to wrap this kid up. His legs keep moving. We need to swarm to the ball, be aware of where he is, be aware of how many tacklers need to be responsible for him. And I just. This is asking a lot. All the more reason why Caleb Williams has to get better at fakes. He's okay. He has gotten better. He is getting better. But I really want him to get that sleight of hand that a little bit of the acting, a little bit of the. More of the body language, a little bit more of a. Of a trust in the fake because that. That's going to matter. That. That is going to buy you some accuracy, margin for error.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, you're right. And now don't be confused that. That I didn't enjoy the win because I know. No, I'm just saying because. But here's the thing. Because I'm approaching it different, Dan. Because I have to. Because.

[Dan Bernstein]

High expectations.

[Matt Abaticola]

I have high expectations for Caleb Williams, but I'm. We went into this game saying Caleb needs to be a reason why the Bears win the game. Okay. And he was. I need to slow my role a bit. Not, not lower my expectations, but slow my role as far as when that's going to appear on a consistent basis. Because I want it to happen sooner than it's going to happen.

[Dan Bernstein]

I want it to happen in playoff games.

[Matt Abaticola]

And unless I can bring that down for myself, I'm going to make myself crazy watching these games because I want to see perform better on a consistent level sooner than it's going to happen.

[Dan Bernstein]

I get it. Neither one of us is grading him on a curve. He's not being graded as a Bears quarterback. And even though we will make comparisons about what he's doing in Bears history, that is. That would be silly and insulting to compare the number one overall draft pick under Ben Johnson to a history of Bears quarterbacks. Correct? I'm not doing that. No.

[Matt Abaticola]

And I don't want to. And I need to stop going hard in on it because it ruins. It ruins my Enjoyment of watching. No, don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't. I don't want you to get too self critical about this. Keep doing what you're doing. I was just messing with you.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, I know you. I know you are. But it's just for me, I want him to perform at a level that not many quarterbacks perform in the NFL right now. And he's just not doing it. He's not doing it at my speed and it can't happen to my speed. I can't have that happen. But I believe he will get there. And it's just, it's going to take longer than I want it to and it's frustrating. It frustrates me, Dan, to see him in the pocket go through his progressions and then turn around and do 360s and it's like the circus music starts.

[Dan Bernstein]

I want to take your line that I will get there. Because the same applies this weekend to beer church brewing.

[Matt Abaticola]

I will get there.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Matt Abaticola]

All right, one last cut from Ben Johnson. He was asked about the trick plays, number of trick plays they used in the game yesterday.

[Ben Johnson]

Yeah, I think we had a lot of plays in general. So we, yeah, we were just cycling through what we felt like would work, and I don't feel like it was any more on a game plan than we normally have. What was the thinking and why that would work? To play with Tyson? With Tyson, yeah, I believe that was off the turnover, is that correct? Yeah, so we had a little momentum, was looking to piggyback on that. And then it's just, it's one of those gadgets where you're throwing it out wide, trying to get some young players on their defense to potentially have bad eyes. We had the ability to throw that ball down the field. They covered it well down there, but then we were able to to throw it back across.

[Dan Bernstein]

So do you presume on that play.

[Ben Johnson]

And the DJ pass to Caleb that.

[Matt Abaticola]

They'Re going to probably just ignore the quarterback, the starting quarterback kind of wandering out there?

[Ben Johnson]

Well, in man coverage, there's not a defender assigned to the quarterback. And so that can be a good play if you get the right coverage.

[Matt Abaticola]

See, that's preparation. He wanted to get some young players, get some bad eyes on some things. And so again, we talked about this yesterday on the postgame show what they saw in the jets game as well, that if you get outside the numbers, their edge defense is porous and so they create opportunities. And it just so happened these trick plays, they've been working the last few weeks getting the outside with runs or passes. And you saw Caleb throwing to the outside of the numbers a lot to get those young players with some bad eyes on plays. I love that terminology.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't you think we also, under Ben Johnson have to learn to talk about them a little differently? He doesn't think of them as trick plays. They're plays. All plays are designed to trick sometimes. All plays are designed to catch the defense, show the defense something. They don't know what they're Seeing when things are. The word that was used by Declan Doyle last week, unorthodox, that. I mean, I think I'm used to referring to them as trick plays. I think to him they're just plays.

[Matt Abaticola]

They're plays in a playbook that have some particular gadgets.

[Dan Bernstein]

Again, whatever you want to call it, they're unorthodox, they look a little different. But I don't think he lacks trust in them. And I don't necessarily think he's showing off.

[Matt Abaticola]

You know what I like about it too is, and you heard him talk there, that you want to use those plays to get downfield and they recover downfield, but you see how quickly they progress. All right, that. That's closed off. Where do we go? Let's go right to it, you know, and there's no hesitation to it. There's no. I got to spin around. I got to look and see what to do. They know exactly what to do. It's that. It's that. That preparation of going over those plays, the repetition of doing it in practice over and over and over again. All right, it's closed off there immediately.

[Dan Bernstein]

Here on another trick play, their version of Philly Special, on which Caleb Williams caught the touchdown pass. I was a little surprised that DJ Moore was so calm with a defender running toward him. If you watch that, there's a moment where the defenders got the angle and I thought he was going to throw it earlier because as the defender's closing, I thought, okay, now. But DJ Was very, very collected in realizing that a couple steps of acceleration, he was going to be able to break that little bit of contain and make an even easier throw. Where most non quarterbacks, given that sort of immediate pressure, are going to try to get rid of the ball.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, that probably, again, is probably the byproduct of repetition. Yeah. And just going over it again. All right. Caleb Williams also met with the media after the game was over, and he talked about the win.

[Caleb Williams]

We just won in a. In a. In a fun fashion.

[Matt Abaticola]

How was the final emotional experience of the final two minutes or so for.

[Caleb Williams]

Me or for just the team? For me, calm. Speaking to coach throughout the week, we knew that this is an explosive offense. They can score at any moment, they can score. He said, he said it before the game, day before the game or so that, you know, we get up by two touchdowns. Don't. Don't feel good or comfortable or anything like that. You know, it's a. And that's what they did today. I mean, they, they made plays and we knew it was going to be a shootout. We knew it was going to be one of those games. And obviously we have to, you know, play better on different sides of the balls and things like that. But us coming through in this way, I think this has been really the only way that we haven't this this year. And so being able to show all the variety of ways to win the game that we can is really important for our confidence as an offense, as a team and things like that. And the guys after the game, it doesn't matter that they put up how many ever points they put up. We're all excited for this win. This is a big moment for us, you know, to be able to go into this next quarter of the season five and three.

[Matt Abaticola]

It also showed the number of ways you can lose a game, too. Special teams and lack of defense and a pressure. But it's a win. It's a win. And a win's a win. To win.

[Dan Bernstein]

The difference between the W and the L buys you all sorts of special treats. When everything happens, the perspective with which we can look back through one lens or the other changes everything. And coaches always say that. Coaches always want to remind you that things bounce weird and sometimes you make your own luck and sometimes there's some bad calls that go your way. You're playing outside in the elements, all kinds of things happen. But when Ben Johnson reminded you, you don't apologize. This is why. Yeah, this is exactly why.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, Bears next quarter. They have these four teams. The Giants at Minnesota, the Steelers and at Philadelphia. So that's their. Their next quarter of their season, those four games. And the Giants game looks a little different now. The Minnesota game, again, because of this Blob season. Dan, Minnesota beats Detroit in Detroit, it just looks different. You know, everything's different. And then, you know, last night or yesterday afternoon's game, the one I was watching, you know, Bills and Chiefs, I said in our post game, if the Chiefs could do something in this game at Buffalo, that they would be able to separate themselves from the Blob. And, you know, they lose 28, 21 back in the Blob or the Chiefs, you know, are the. Are the. Are the Bills the team that we thought they were going to be? It just. It's one big blob of NFL teams now. And the Bears right now after eight games, five and three, going into this next quarter of the Giants at Minnesota, the Steelers and at Philadelphia. All right, Caleb Williams was asked about the. The pass and catch and run and touchdown by Colston Loveland.

[Caleb Williams]

You know, when he calls it, I'm. I'm wishing I know exactly what. What coverage. He was one for that one play throughout the whole game. We were hunting it the whole game. And in that moment before actually that moment we were on the sideline. When him and I were on the sideline speaking, he was like, I think we're going to get this coverage here in this moment. And it's awesome when you got a coach like that. You know, I think we ended up getting the coverage and you know, just like I said, threw a solid ball o line blocked well. And like I said, Colston would. Made a great play for us.

[Matt Abaticola]

Now watching that play again, Dan. And again there's a great pocket created for him to step up and throw the ball. There's a linebacker on the line that drops back into coverage.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

And something I was critical. I have been critical of Caleb Williams. He does exceptionally well on this play. He drops it right over that line. That linebacker who drops back and he jumps, extends his hand and just drops it over his hand right into that basket between three defenders. And it's a perfectly thrown ball and something that he's not done very well in that mid level of dropping over that. That first level of coverage in front of the second, the deeper level of coverage. He hasn't done it well.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct. He's done a much better job of changing his throwing angle to fit balls in closer to the line of scrimmage. He's been remarkable at that. But especially against the zone drops of being able to find that extra space. And that's what I was talking about before about the sleight of hand about he'll. He can build. He can make that easier on himself by pulling the linebacker in one. One little step in from which the linebacker has to recover or jump a little earlier. That's up to him to make that easier in the way that fake is sold.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. And he normally would throw that ball higher and leave his. His receivers victim to being hit by being stretched. Not. Not so in this case, it's a. It was a perfectly thrown ball that he drops it within the triangle of those defenders and you know, the rest is on Loveland to stay on his feet. Jordan Battle, I think he might have had five or six missed tackles. He was the one who initially hits Colson Loveland on that play and we talked about their 84 missed tackles going into that game to leading the NFL.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was bouncing off people.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes, he was.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not good. If you're a defensive player.

[Matt Abaticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

To be in charge of Running into something and bouncing off.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Bad.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. And then let's go down to who do we have next? Colson Loveland. He talked about that play that got the Bears the win. Yeah, man, it was a roller coaster of emotions for sure, but just happy we got the win. You know, anything. That's what I've realized in the NFL. Anything to get the win. You can't be mad about it. Obviously got a lot of stuff to clean up, but got the win and you know, we made it out. So that was big.

[Ben Johnson]

What do you think when that plays called and you know what the play is, you know that you're the primary read and you kind of see it like what Walk us through kind of.

[Matt Abaticola]

As that's all coming together. Yeah. Plays called. Just seeing basically split safety. So I'm thinking, you know, I got a pretty good chance getting this ball, Caleb. I mean, delivered it right on the money, right in my chest and then happened to like kind of spin around.

[Dan Bernstein]

Was like, man, I'm still up so.

[Matt Abaticola]

May as well go try to score this thing. But yeah, it was kind of. Yeah, it was tough because if I get tackled, you know, we might not have enough time, I don't think to clock it or you know, do that. So it was kind of just an in the moment thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was Kevin Fishbane of the Athletic asking the question and he wrote it up. He wrote up that play from all these different angles and really did a remarkable job of giving that play, which is now on the list of the all time longest game winning plays.

[Matt Abaticola]

Really?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. I want to say it was fifth. I'll track it down. I think, I think it was Courtney Cronin who had that. But it was a. That's. Look, in a lot of ways that game's an all timer. It really is. There were and we're going to get to that late when I mentioned to you the Bears history stuff, but there were a lot of things that happened out there. Here you go. Here's your all time list. 2009, the Broncos beat the Bengals on an 87 yard touchdown by Kyle Orton to Brandon Stokely. That's known as the immaculate deflection. 2018, the Dolphins beat the Patriots on a 69 yard pass. Nice by Ryan Tannehill to Kenyon Drake with a pair of laterals in it. That was The Miami Miracle. 2015 packers beat the Lions on the 61 yard Hail Mary by Aaron Rodgers to Richard Rodgers as time expired.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Remember that miracle in Motown.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sunday, Sunday Bears defeat Bengals on a 58 yard pass by Caleb Williams to Colston Loveland and that took its place above 1978. I remember this. Falcons beat the Saints 57 yard pass Steve Bartkowski to Alfred Jackson on a tipped ball on the right sideline.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, there was a lot to remember about this game. A lot. 89 points, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

89 points.

[Matt Abaticola]

15 points scored in 49 seconds on side kick, kickoff return, interceptions that weren't three times. Defenders running the other way with the ball.

[Dan Bernstein]

Six. That wasn't.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes. I mean, it's just so many things. And hey, let's highlight it, too, because it was all this week. It was. See something, say something. Seven penalties.

[Dan Bernstein]

What did I say?

[Matt Abaticola]

Remember, they cleaned it up. You said six. Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right there.

[Matt Abaticola]

But they cleaned it up. I mean, let's. Let's take it a step further now, boys. Keep seeing something. Keep saying something.

[Ben Johnson]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

And get down to my six.

[Matt Abaticola]

Get down to six for that win.

[Dan Bernstein]

You didn't hit my six.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right. Last thing is Kyle Manon guy, and you know, he's asked about his day, and I just. I love his. I just love. This is great.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think the win was just the craziest part. I think that's the craziest game I've.

[Matt Abaticola]

Been a part of.

[Dan Bernstein]

And most importantly, that's the most important.

[Caleb Williams]

Thing, winning the game.

[Dan Bernstein]

So. So, yeah, I mean, I think I did some good things, but I'm just.

[Matt Abaticola]

Glad to be a part of the winning side of that.

[Caleb Williams]

When Britton scores his touchdown, you're on.

[Matt Abaticola]

The sideline getting taped up, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. It seemed like you were getting ready.

[Matt Abaticola]

To go in on that play. Did somebody stop? Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nah.

[Matt Abaticola]

So, yeah, Evie told me, get the next one, but there was no next one.

[Dan Bernstein]

So.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

But now Britt got in.

[Matt Abaticola]

I was happy for him. That was cool. I love it. So he's getting taped up on the sideline and he's like. You were getting ready to go in, weren't you? Well, you saw that. Get the next one. Get the next one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, we also, everybody.

[Matt Abaticola]

They showed it on the next one.

[Dan Bernstein]

They showed it on the broadcast. And congrats to Britton Brown, too. I had no idea. Did you know he has a degree in computer science from Duke and a master's in education from ucla?

[Matt Abaticola]

I did not know that.

[Dan Bernstein]

And Kyle Manungai, I believe was. Was all what's what Conferences record Big Ten academics in multiple years. They may have the smartest running back room.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Remember when they had Ian Wheeler in there, too?

[Dan Bernstein]

That's right.

[Matt Abaticola]

Dr.

[Dan Bernstein]

They were not yet.

[Matt Abaticola]

But they met studying to Be a doctor.

[Dan Bernstein]

Usually running backs. Most football players will tell you, especially offensive linemen will tell you. The dumbest guys on the team are running backs. Well, they usually ask any offensive lineman. They'll tell you, don't say offensive linemen are the smartest because they have to know everything. And they always say they're the smartest. But this is a uniquely intelligent running back room that the Bears seem to have.

[Matt Abaticola]

It certainly is. And this is not a shot at all against Colson Loveland.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm just.

[Matt Abaticola]

I'm going on the history, the history of the players that have been well known, and that's in this position. I would vote tight end might be the least intelligent.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, it's not. Because they've got to know all the running plays and all the passing plays.

[Matt Abaticola]

Some of the most successful guys, though, in the league. I mean, they're. They're in the news.

[Dan Bernstein]

You don't believe me about Gronk?

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't. I know. I.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think you're wrong. I really do.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't think he's playing a bit, man.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think he's dumb.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't think he's playing a bit at all.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't. I just think he's. I don't know. I think he's goofy, but I don't think he's dumb.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wasn't he National Honor Society in high school?

[Matt Abaticola]

I have no idea.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think he was. All right, so I. Do you want to do the NFL notes or do you want to save some of that for tomorrow? Because I do. I have some Bears history stuff.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, let's do Bears history stuff. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because I think we can. We can work our way around the whole NFL tomorrow.

[Matt Abaticola]

Because we'll recap this week, too. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

And we'll know more about injuries after the coaches speak today. Where do you think Kyle Menung, guys, 176 yard rushing performance ranks all time for single game rushing in the history of the Chicago Bears. Total yardage.

[Matt Abaticola]

What's the total yards again?

[Dan Bernstein]

176.

[Matt Abaticola]

I'm going to say it is number three.

[Dan Bernstein]

Number 18.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, seriously?

[Dan Bernstein]

It's the Bears.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, it's the Bears.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's a lot.

[Dan Bernstein]

Here is your list of Bears rushing games.

[Matt Abaticola]

That low?

[Dan Bernstein]

Here's your list of Bears rushing games.

[Matt Abaticola]

Wait, so is this individual performance or rushing game?

[Dan Bernstein]

This is individual performance in a game. Most yards by a player in a game.

[Matt Abaticola]

And 176 is 18.

[Dan Bernstein]

18Th. Wow. This is something about. Of which the Bears can be proud. This is not passing. We're not talking about ugly passing numbers, okay? And I've got another one for you after this. Another little bit of Bears history. Number one, Walter Payton, 275. We all remember that. Matt Forte, 205 in 2011 against Carolina. Walter Payton, 205. Also in 77 against Green Bay. Gail Sayers, 205.

[Matt Abaticola]

I forgot about the Matt Forte in.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Gail Sayers in 1968. Number five, Gail Sayers, 197. Walter Payton, 192. Walter Payton, 192. Rick Caceris, 190 in 1956. Anthony Thomas, which is the best rookie performance also in Cincinnati, 188.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, so he was close to that.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was close to the best rookie performance. Walter Payton, 183. Walter Payton, 183. WALTER Payton, 182. Willie Gallimore, 181 in 1962. Walter Payton, 179. Walter Payton, 179. Justin Fields, 178. 2022 against Miami.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's the game, remember where. Where Mike McDaniel was like, stop it.

[Matt Abaticola]

Stop it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Remember he came over to the sideline and he ran it. It was like, stop it. Walter Payton, 177. And then Kyle Manungai 176.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's 18th.

[Dan Bernstein]

And after that, Walter Payton 175. And you scroll down this list. I remember this game to. After pins, Anthony Thomas, Gail Sayers, Jordan Howard checks in at 22 with 167. Matt Forte 166. And then James Allen, 24th with 163 against the Ravens. Do you remember that game? That was the Ted Marcher, Broda, you're fired game.

[Matt Abaticola]

What year was that?

[Dan Bernstein]

That was 98.

[Matt Abaticola]

98.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I think after the game was when Dave wants that called him Tremaine Allen instead of James Allen. Rock Tremaine Allen. James Allen that you talk about bad tackling. That may have been the worst tackling performance I've ever seen from a Ravens defense that had absolutely quit, that barely tried the very end of the year. Nobody even wanted to dive. It looked like the Pro bowl with the effort that that Ravens defense put in. But congratulations, Kyle menungai at number 18. Now, there's another note in here that had me looking up a little bit of Bears history, and that is the total yardage in the game. The bears had 576 yards.

[Matt Abaticola]

576. Let me guess. On the bangle. Bengals had 515.

[Dan Bernstein]

They had five. Something. Yeah, it was over a thousand yards of offense. I don't have in front of me exactly what the Bengals have. They barely run, ran the ball.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think they had like 47, 45 yards.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, something like that. So the last time. Do you know the last time the Bears had close to that many yards? What was the total or had more? They actually had more. It was the sixth highest yardage total in the Bears 1531 game history, counting the playoffs. They had sixth, sixth all time.

[Matt Abaticola]

Wait, and what was the total yards?

[Dan Bernstein]

5, 576. The last time they had a game like that, they had 594.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, hang on. Five, 94, five. Was it. Was it as recent as a Jay Cutler game? No. All right. Was it a. Was it, oh, Eric Kramer? No. Are we going way back?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I mean, it doesn't feel way back to me because I remember watching every play.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, was it. Was it the. Was it Jim McMahon?

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Matt Abaticola]

Really?

[Dan Bernstein]

It was 1980.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And the packers were fighting for the playoffs, and the Bears ended that fight by beating the Packers 61 to 7. So good.

[Matt Abaticola]

Good game.

[Dan Bernstein]

On December 7, 1980, the Bears won 61. And the Bears had 33 first downs. They rushed for 267 yards. And Vince Evans was 18 of 22 for 316 yards and three touchdowns for a perfect rating of 158.3. Mike Phipps. Mike Phipps even got in as a quarterback, completed both of his passes. WALTER Payton had three touchdowns and 130 yards. So just a pedestrian total. There's Willie McClendon, ran for 72, Roland Harper ran for 37, and John Skabinski, wow. Had five carries for 20 yards.

[Matt Abaticola]

So John Skabinski is cutting you up for four average. Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

McClendon had a touchdown to go with Peyton's three. Harper had a touchdown. Your other touchdowns were scored by Ricky Watts, who had four catches for 126 yards. Brian Bashnagal, three catches for 44 yards and a score. And Robin Earl also. Oh, Robin Earl had a touchdown with his three catches for 39 yards. Not to be outdone, the defense scored as well. While Gary Fencik had an interception. Len Walter shied, had a pick six. There you go. There's your little bit of Bears history. And I have visual memories of almost all of those scores.

[Matt Abaticola]

Do you have the. The list of the games? The other. She said that was the sixth most.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I don't have the others.

[Matt Abaticola]

You don't have. Okay. I'd be curious.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, hell, it could go back to red green.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's what I'm wondering. Yeah. Wow.

[Dan Bernstein]

But it was an historic Bears day, so remember it. That's forward progress and it is brought to you by beer church. So like I say, tomorrow we can take center, really look around the NFL and look into some of the things that happened.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Because it wraps tonight with the, the Cowboys and Cardinals. So we'll, we'll finish that up and then get into the NFL. We'll look at, I mean, look at the standings alone.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know.

[Matt Abaticola]

The Bears division.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know. We're in this, right? Oh, yeah. We out here.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, it's, it's. I mean, the most wins of any division in football. I know. It's crazy.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, we'll enjoy the craziness while we can right here on Forward progress from 312 sports.

[Matt Abaticola]

Forward progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 312 Sports.