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Chicago Bears and Dallas Cowboys - Top 10 Cowboys of All-Time
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Dan Bernstein
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Matt Abeticola
Forward progress A Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on.
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Dan Bernstein
312 sports a pre bears Friday. Bears and cowboys coming your way 325. We have been talking about that for much of the week and we're going to talk about it immediately after. Of course keep in mind it is going to be post game number three for forward progress right after the Bears and Cowboys get done. You're going to pop on live here on YouTube and be a part of what we are doing. Thanks everybody who took in yesterday's show with Courtney Cronin. She was a blast and had one of the great moments that we already relived on DBU a little bit earlier today.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes we did.
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Dan Bernstein
If you are ever going to ask, can I swear on this podcast. And now the bar has been set for how you come through on that one. For how you knock everything down immediately after requesting that. It sounded a little something like this. Can I swear on this podcast?
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Matt Abeticola
Yes, of course.
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Dan Bernstein
Holy shit. That would fucking hurt like a motherfucker if you got hit like that. There it is. Top that Courtney Dam Cronin coming through on that one. Bears and Cowboys essentially a pick them game at the moment. I believe the bears are a 1 point favorite because they're at home.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, I don't get that at all. I just don't see that happening.
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Dan Bernstein
It's hard to pick the Bears with the weight of recent history certainly piled up against them. Let's first take a look at the latest injury report that we have. So we're going to do that. We're going to have a couple of notes on the game and then we're going to get to why you're really tuned in today. And we know as we do for.
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Matt Abeticola
Every opponent this is going to be big.
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Dan Bernstein
So I'm just going to show you briefly like what my notes look like because I took a lot of liberties in here with this list of the top 10 greatest cowboys of all time. I, I had to. I, I have. I, I'm pushing the boundaries of the concept of a list.
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Matt Abeticola
All right. Well, I'm excited to see where your brain took you. I have the official list from the list committee. They got it.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh sure. You get the, the definitive list committee list.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
It's the, the same people that, that pick the participants in the tournaments. Got it?
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Dan Bernstein
Yes, got it.
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Matt Abeticola
So they have election committee. Yes, they gave me the official list. I have that. I will read that. And I also got with this edition the criteria oh of their picks I.
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Dan Bernstein
Should have had those going in maybe.
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Matt Abeticola
Oh, no. Because that's all. This is all your opinion.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Your list is your opinion. In your world, the 10 greatest cowboys. Yeah. Who the fuck is this guy? Hey, look at this guy.
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Dan Bernstein
Huh?
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Matt Abeticola
Look at this fucking guy.
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Dan Bernstein
Look at this guy. Hey. Oh. I don't. I don't like the Bears chances, but I don't either. But I do. I generally like an O and two home underdog, if that makes any sense.
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Matt Abeticola
No, it does make a great deal of sense. I just. I don't. I have zero confidence in the Bears to win this game. And if you can go less than zero.
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Dan Bernstein
Or saved by zero.
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Matt Abeticola
You took me there with the stats you shared during dbu.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, you got to check out DBU today if you want to stat with the. Absolutely terrify you. I mean that makes you want to spend the rest of the day kind of locked up in a dark room.
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Matt Abeticola
I knew was bad, but that so bad. It's so bad.
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Dan Bernstein
It's really bad. So is the entry report for the Bears. The latest we had TJ Edwards, Kyler Gordon, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Jones, Karen Amagade and somebody called DeMarco Jackson all did not practice. Limited participation for Grady Jarrett, DeAndre Swift. No, excuse me. Grady Jarrett was limited. DeAndre Swift and John I. Walker 1 were both full participation on Thursday and then we'll get the official designations today. As far as the Cowboys go, it was the only guy we're still looking at. It was cornerback Duron Bland, the guy of all of last year's interceptions who has not practiced this week. Trevon Diggs was upgraded from an illness. He went from did not practice Wednesday to full participation Thursday along with Tyler Guyton and their diminutive but speedy kick returner Kevante. I think the Bears have to do some very simple things to be competitive in this game. One is stay away from offensive and particularly pre snap penalties. Yep. Just be more disciplined, just be smarter just because they like to say on the same page. And that will give you a significantly better chance of stringing together the drives you will need to Defeat a Tampa 2 defense. A bad one, but a tab of 2 defense as part and parcel of that. I hate the term commitment to the run game, but just being better at running the football, being something other than bad at running the football early, will set some things up. Ideally because hey, the first drives have been great in both games. It's one thing is we know it's been great in both games those first drives. So if just make it matter this time. Make what happens significant in some way. Be able to run the find a mullet on that line. Find at least a couple of run plays. You know you can fall forward for four and a half yards and runs a big ass man and run those as many times as you can with whoever is carrying the ball and however you got to do it because that's going to set up play action opportunities. You spread out the layers of this defense a little bit in the zone, you figure out where their landmarks are and you take advantage. You get your tight ends going in those open spaces and you're off to the races. Now whether or not you can prevent them from scoring enough points, I don't know. I tend to doubt it. But you should be able to move the ball and score rather than against this defense. What it wants you to do is just move the ball between the 20s and then they stiffen and you don't score. So that's those are my simple notes. Stay out of pre snap penalties and these behind the chains and off schedule situations where run the ball to set up critical play action when you need it.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, what the Bears need to do is they need to stay out of those second and longs, third and longs. I mean as you mentioned the pre snap penalties, that's where they're creating those, those really difficult situations for an offense that has been struggling most of these two games, with the exception really of those, those opening drives. And you know they, they've put other points on the board but they really haven't been able to click and get it all together. So they need to avoid those, those second alongs, those third and longs. It seems like they really need to find a way as a unit to stop stacking mistakes on top of each other because this is where you're really creating all those issues. It's one thing to have a false start or a holding that brings you back, but then you exasperate it with a terrible pass or a stupid mental mistake that really creates those really difficult situations for a team that's struggling to move the ball consistently. But here's here's one thing that I this is the matchup that is going to be the thing I'm going to watch the most. Because you have a Bears defense that is young now with injuries and completely banged up with your veterans. What really was the strength of your team going into this season is now going to depend on Tyreek Stevenson to really to play better even though he's in terrible these two games you're going to have Nishan Wright getting a bulk of the time playing on the outside with Jalen Johnson being out. You have Kyler Gordon status. You know, it's just this creates an opportunity for the Cowboys to do something and do something. Well, here's what they do. They, they, they've been, they've been rushing the ball better than I think people have expected this year so far. But one thing they've done well with Dak Prescott as the quarterback is the play action. If they're able to establish a run game early against the Bears, which I expect they're going to try, that's going to be their game plan. Establish the run, his ability for play action, play action, pass. In his time now, he's been the starter since 2016 for the Cowboys. He had some injury issues, but he's basically started every game for them since 2016. For his career, he has thrown for almost 9,000 yards, 55 touchdowns with 13 interceptions and a 70% completion rate on play action.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, good luck.
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Matt Abeticola
That is seventh most yards on play action in the NFL during that span. Sixth among most active, six most among active quarterbacks. And in 2025, he's 16 of 18.
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Dan Bernstein
For 168 yards and knock him down. Got him in the ground, right.
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Matt Abeticola
That, that's like the reasonable solution to a team that doesn't create pressure, get.
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Dan Bernstein
Them on somehow or quarterback hits or sacks.
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Matt Abeticola
They're not doing that through two games. So I think if the Cowboys come out and start running the football early, you're going to see a lot, a lot of big plays, explosive plays on play action with CD Lamb, with Pickens again, I think CD Lamb goes for over 200. I really do.
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Dan Bernstein
I wonder what you could, did you check what you could get for him going over 200? I didn't want to actually put that down.
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Matt Abeticola
It's a stupid number that I think they're going to to achieve against the Bears on Sunday at Soldier Field. That's if given the fact that they can establish a run early and really benefit of his ability to throw on play action.
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Dan Bernstein
I'm also very interested to see if the Bears run more outside zone scheme in their run game. We've seen a lot of duo where they are picking a place to double team and running off of that. When Drew Dahlman, the center was acquired, I was under the impression that they were going to use him at what he does best and that is zone block. Now against this particular defense, if you are moving things to one side, if you are going to give sort of these half field reads, I don't know that it necessarily exploits it well, because ideally off of that zone, obviously you start thinking some of the classic Shanahan stuff. If you get the zone moving, the zone run game moving in one direction or another, what do you have? You have boots off of that and you have waggles off of that. It's hard to use some of those reverse actions successfully against a defense that isn't in man, that is using zone principles. If there are some matchup principles there, maybe you can. But the effectiveness of running the ball and allowing Swift to hit the backside of some of these plays I think is going to be critical because that's how I thought that Tuney and Dalman and Jackson were going to be used to the best of their respective skill sets, particularly Dahlman. And I would just like to see more of it. I would like to see them say, hey, you know, settle in because this group is going to be on the move and coming after you, stretching, stretching, stretching, stretching. Allowing the running back to pick that lane, be decisive and go.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah. And if you look at the, the both teams and their defenses, they're, they're both not getting to the quarterback as much as they would obvious want to. The Bears with three sacks, the Cowboys with just one more. At four sacks, yards per carry, the Bears are 1, 2, 3, 4, fifth in the league at 5.3. So I'm telling you, if the Cowboys are able to establish the run and then work off that play action, that passing with Dak Prescott, it's gonna be a real long day, Real long day. And if it does require a shootout, I just, I can't see the Bears in this offense. How I have seen it the first two games put up enough points to be in that kind of a competition.
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Dan Bernstein
That's Matt about a Cola. I'm Dan Bernstein here on forward Progress. This has taken me some time and I was a little worried that you came over and spied on my list.
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Matt Abeticola
I did not spy. I'm telling you, I promise I did. I, I didn't want to look at your notes.
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Dan Bernstein
Who went over to my notes and in your handwriting wrote the word penis?
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Matt Abeticola
I don't know. I'm trying to find out.
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Dan Bernstein
Like you're going to get to the bottom.
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Matt Abeticola
I'm going to Dan. I'm on it. I'm on it. I mean, that's why we're a little late today.
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Dan Bernstein
Like Jim Robinson in the Hot dog. Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
I'm going up. I'm going to everyone's office. I'm demanding. Show me how you can write in my handwriting, please.
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Dan Bernstein
Someone has found it. It's gotta be fake news. It has to be AI. It's gotta be something that. Exactly in your handwriting used this very pen. And I did the ballistics on this. That you're. That this very pen wrote the word penis on my notes.
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Matt Abeticola
So weird. Like, I don't know who would do that to you, but it wasn't me. But then to frame me by using my handwriting style really takes it to a different level.
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Dan Bernstein
An old reference to what I said we used to do in college.
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Matt Abeticola
Again, I can't answer that, Dan, because.
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Dan Bernstein
I didn't write it on nights before big papers were due and we all had our original Macintosh computers and our original Macintosh printers chattering away in the dorm. What would happen that you'd go over it as before they printed out their final draft, and if somebody were leaving to, like, grab a beer or something, you'd go throughout their paper and just insert the word penis over and over again.
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Matt Abeticola
Did you. You would do that to papers?
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, we did it to each other all the time. You always had to penis check your paper before you printed it out.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, no, I didn't. I didn't do that. I wouldn't. I wouldn't stoop to that level. And had I written that on your notes, I wouldn't have read your notes.
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Dan Bernstein
O.J. like, it's like. This is, like you're writing. Let me see if I did it.
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Matt Abeticola
Where's that pen at? Let me see that pen. Okay. Can you hand it to me?
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Dan Bernstein
As long as you give it back to me, I will.
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Matt Abeticola
I'll give it back.
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Dan Bernstein
Because I need this pen. Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
See, I can't even hold it.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, yeah.
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Matt Abeticola
There's no way I could have written it. I can't even hold the pen.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, that's. How could you possibly have been able to write with this pen? Well, maybe it was in another identical.
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Matt Abeticola
There you go. So it wasn't me. I would not write penis, somebody.
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Dan Bernstein
So, as we do for every bear's.
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Matt Abeticola
Opponent, I may occasionally write penis on the grocery list.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, you never know how much you need.
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Matt Abeticola
I would never, never do that to your football.
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Dan Bernstein
Especially if you're going to, like, Sam's Club and you got to pick up a huge thing. Yeah, yeah. Because you never know. And you can get great deals because it's. There's tariffs on it.
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Matt Abeticola
Oh, my.
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Dan Bernstein
Slapping a big old tariff on it.
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Matt Abeticola
My. My buddy Enzo, he sent me a text that Costco has a full size pinball machine right now. It's a Star wars pinball machine. Yeah, 4800 bucks.
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Dan Bernstein
That's. That's a. That's a lot of cabbage there.
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Matt Abeticola
It comes with Princess Leia, though. You get Carrie Fisher to sit in your basement and play pinball with you. Is she dead or she alive? She's been dead a while. Oh, has she really?
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
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Matt Abeticola
Maybe that's why it's only 4800, because if she was still alive, it'd be more.
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Dan Bernstein
See what you're working there?
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Matt Abeticola
There you go.
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Dan Bernstein
So let me just.
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Matt Abeticola
She died.
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Dan Bernstein
Let me just say that I had trouble with this list because there's a lot of fictional cowboys, there are a lot of actual cowboys, and then there's a very loose definition of what constitutes a cowboy when we do our all time greatest cowboys. You said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that the selection committee does have the criteria that would establish what it means to qualify as a cowboy.
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Matt Abeticola
No, you said that. No, I didn't. That's not what I said the criteria was. I didn't say they had the criteria that designated what determined what a cowboy was. I said I have the criteria of the list, not what makes a cowboy. The cowboys. A very broad. I know. Very broad definition.
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Dan Bernstein
One of my favorites. I didn't count and I didn't include.
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Matt Abeticola
Who is it?
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Dan Bernstein
All right, I'm going to start here. All right, I'm going to start. I'm going to give you my.
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Matt Abeticola
Why don't you start and I'll give you the official list. Fine. Oh, give me the one that.
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Dan Bernstein
Or you'll be the official list and I'll say where mine are.
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Matt Abeticola
Fine.
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Dan Bernstein
Because that's how we did it last time.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
The one name I did not include as a cowboy. Doc Holliday.
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Matt Abeticola
Well, okay, you know what? Screw you. First of all, because we had this conversation.
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Dan Bernstein
But I didn't include him.
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Matt Abeticola
But I said he was a cowboy and you told me he wasn't a cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
Curry, he's a dentist.
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Matt Abeticola
That he happened to be. You. You censored yourself here.
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Dan Bernstein
I know.
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Matt Abeticola
I was saying he's a cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
He's not a cowboy, but he is a cowboy. Cowboy friends.
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Matt Abeticola
He's a. He's a gambler. He's a. He's a. He has a six shooter that he knows how to use and he's a.
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Dan Bernstein
Sick six shooter because he.
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Matt Abeticola
Because he can shoot really well.
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Dan Bernstein
Right.
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Matt Abeticola
And he's ill. Yeah, but like Val.
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Dan Bernstein
Kilmer's portrayal of Doc Holliday would be. Absolutely. Would be on My list, not a cowboy.
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Matt Abeticola
But I disagree. I think that he is a cowboy. He's not his profession. Was it, you can be a cowboy and not have that as your profession.
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Dan Bernstein
And the. Okay, so I did.
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Matt Abeticola
Anyway, let's, let's, let's rewind on this. You said Doc Holliday. I said, yes, he's a cowboy. You said, no, he's not.
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Dan Bernstein
He's not.
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Matt Abeticola
And now you're angry that he's not a cowboy because I don't think he is.
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Dan Bernstein
I would include him, but I don't think he's a cowboy.
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Matt Abeticola
Fine.
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Dan Bernstein
All right, so that's established now I created an entire sub list. Not my top 10 of bills like comed water. No, here's your bill.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
Wild Bill Hickok, Pecos Bill, Buffalo Bill Cody, Bill Pickett, Billy the Kid, Curly Bill Brocius and Bronco Bill Walters.
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Matt Abeticola
So not on your list. But bills.
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Dan Bernstein
That's the list of bills.
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Matt Abeticola
All right, here's the selection committee worked off of a list of 60 cowboys.
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Dan Bernstein
That's not enough.
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Matt Abeticola
But that's what they. That's what we started.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, I don't care.
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Matt Abeticola
I'm telling you where it's coming from. All right, 66 0.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, fine.
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Matt Abeticola
To get to the top 10.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. So do you have honorables mention?
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Matt Abeticola
I do have honorables mention.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes, I do. Okay, so again, this is not my list. This is the selection.
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Dan Bernstein
Why are you didn't write penis on my notes?
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Matt Abeticola
I did not. Why are you so stressed out about this? It's supposed to be fun.
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Dan Bernstein
It is fun, but why are you stressed out? I don't know. You're. It's. I'm anxious.
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Matt Abeticola
Why are you anxious?
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Dan Bernstein
I don't know.
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Matt Abeticola
Do you need a hug?
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Dan Bernstein
And making asking why is going to make me any less anxious.
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Matt Abeticola
All right. What can I do to make you less anxious?
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, okay.
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Matt Abeticola
All right, here we go.
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Dan Bernstein
Fine.
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Matt Abeticola
These are the honorables mentions.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Hey, look at this guy. Oh, all right.
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Dan Bernstein
So look at this guy again.
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Matt Abeticola
I'm. I'm reading the list that was handed to me from the committee.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
I don't. Why, why does that bother you so much? I'm just. This is not.
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Dan Bernstein
Stop asking me why things bother me. That bothers me.
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Matt Abeticola
All right?
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Dan Bernstein
That's a trigger thing for me.
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Matt Abeticola
Well, now we're learning. See, I'm still learning. I'm still learning the player.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay?
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Matt Abeticola
I'm learning to know you.
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Dan Bernstein
Learning to know you.
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Matt Abeticola
Just go. All right. There's a three way tie at 15, which is an honorable mention.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Do you want descriptions too, or just the names? Just the title.
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Dan Bernstein
Whatever you want. Okay. Knock yourself out.
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Matt Abeticola
All right, three way tied 15. And this is Urban Cowboy, Midnight Cowboy, Rhinestone Cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, I like it. Okay, okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Do you need description of anything?
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Dan Bernstein
No, I got it all.
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Matt Abeticola
Are you sure?
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Dan Bernstein
Absolutely.
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Matt Abeticola
You know what you want to know about Midnight Cowboy?
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Dan Bernstein
I love Midnight Cowboy.
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Matt Abeticola
A 1969 film about a naive Texan dishwasher named Joe Buck, played by Jon Voight, who travels to New York City to become a male hustler, but finds himself broke and homeless until he teams up with an ailing con man named Ratzo Rizzo, played by Dustin Hoffman. I'm walking here not to be confused by Wizzo.
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Dan Bernstein
Not. No.
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Matt Abeticola
Or Anthony Rizzo.
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Dan Bernstein
Watso Wizzo. That would be a completely different movie. Also dies on a bus, but different.
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Matt Abeticola
Also a male hustler in New York.
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Dan Bernstein
City and dies on a bus to Miami. Different reasons.
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Matt Abeticola
All right, so.
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Dan Bernstein
And his sex with Brenda Vaccaro.
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Matt Abeticola
A three way tie at 15 for honorable mentions. Urban Cowboy, Midnight Cowboy, Rhinestone Cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
Very well done.
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Matt Abeticola
Number 14, Marshall Matt Dillon from the long running radio and television series Gunsmoke. He serves as the U.S. marshal of Dodge City, Kansas in the 1870s, portrayed by James Arness.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes, yes.
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Matt Abeticola
On TV, William Conrad. On radio. Dylan is known for his. A. Dylan is known for his strong moral code, calm strength, and efforts to maintain law and order in the Old West.
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Dan Bernstein
Good things to be known for.
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Matt Abeticola
Honorable mention, Marshall Matt dillon. Okay, number 13, honorable mention, Ben Cartwright.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. I had as a group the Cartwright. I had the Cartwright men as a group at number eight. Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
No, that's. That's great. I love it.
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Dan Bernstein
And you know why we should. We need to mention Gary from Evanston.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
And had we not included a Cartwright or the Cartwrights. And by the way, Bill Cartwright not part of the Bills nor part of the Cartwright plan. Right, exactly. So let the record show that despite having a separate list of people named Bill and Cartwright, ironically, the actual Bill Cartwright not among them.
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Matt Abeticola
Ben Cartwright is the patriarch of the Cartwright family and the central character in the classic Western TV series Bonanza, played by Lorne Greene. Ben is a wealthy, honest and compassionate rancher who runs the Ponderosa Ranch in Nevada with his three sons, Adam, Hoss and Little Joe. There you go. So number 13, honorable mention. Number 12. Also a tie here.
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Dan Bernstein
So that's.
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Matt Abeticola
That's a group there. But you had them at 8 on your list.
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Dan Bernstein
I have the cart rights at 8.
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Matt Abeticola
See, you're thinking in the same. Same pattern as the selection committee.
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Dan Bernstein
Good.
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Matt Abeticola
So you're doing well.
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Dan Bernstein
Good.
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Matt Abeticola
A tie at 12. Here we have, first of all, Seth Bullock, a Canadian American frontiersman, business owner, politician, sheriff, and U.S. marshal. He was a prominent citizen in Deadwood, South Dakota. Bullock was portrayed by Timmy the Oliphant in HBO's critically acclaimed TV series Deadwood.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, I did not see Deadwood because there's a lot of these that are famous because of portrayals. Like I had, as an honorable mention, I had Bass Reeves on there.
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Matt Abeticola
Bass Reeves? Yeah, lawman. Bass Reeves. Also a TV series streaming on Hulu. Yes, it's a very good show.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, so I had him there.
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Matt Abeticola
There you go. So on the tie at 12, Seth Bullock, along with Raylan Givens, a fictional deputy US marshal created by Arthur by author Elmore Leonard.
- [22:20]
Dan Bernstein
Arthur, author.
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Matt Abeticola
And he was buried next to his kids on Thursday.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, sorry.
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Matt Abeticola
Raelyn Givens first appeared in Leonard's novels Pronto and Riding the Rap before becoming the central character in the TV series Jo Justified, where he is played by Timothy Oliphant. So coming in at number 12, number 11, honorable mention, cowboy Curtis. No, Cowboy Curtis is a supporting character on the children's TV series Pee Wee Herman's Playhouse. Lawrence Fishburne, played by Laurence Fishburne. He is a friendly 1950s style cowboy who is. Is a close friend to Pee Wee Herman. Okay, also coming in at number 11 for an honorable mention.
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Dan Bernstein
This guy. Yeah.
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Matt Abeticola
Cowboy Joe West. Born Joseph Henry west, nicknamed Cowboy Joe, is a former major league umpire who worked in 5,460 games over 43 seasons, an MLB record. West and a singer, has a fiery temper and has been criticized for escalating confrontations and showing up players, managers. Yeah. Also nicknamed Country Joe west as a.
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Dan Bernstein
I thought it was Country Joe.
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Matt Abeticola
Country Joe, but yeah, but he also goes by, as you know, Cowboy Joe. Cowboy Joe west. The umpire.
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Dan Bernstein
Got it.
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Matt Abeticola
So that's number 11. He's in a tie with Troy Aikman, number 11 on the list.
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Dan Bernstein
See, I thought to include the one non sequitur actual guy who played for the Cowboys, but I didn't.
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Matt Abeticola
You shouldn't.
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Dan Bernstein
I'm over the bit.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, it's not. That's. That's not top 10 either. Is Troy Aikman. Troy Kenneth Aikman, former American professional football quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League.
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Dan Bernstein
Dallas Cowboys. See, that's an interesting take on this.
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Matt Abeticola
There you go. He's a cowboy.
- [24:11]
Dan Bernstein
Got it. Dallas Cowboys.
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Matt Abeticola
He played 12 seasons for the Dallas Cowboys. After being selected first overall in the 1989 NFL Draft, he went to six Pro Bowls and won three Super Bowls. It was inducted into the NFL hall of Fame in 2006. He currently serves as an analyst for Fox TV alongside his partner. Work partner. That is Joe Buck. Not the character from the 1969 film Midnight Cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
Now that would be a thing. Then you'd really have cowboys and cowboys there if it were the Joe Buck the male hustler.
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Matt Abeticola
Right. Doing games on Fox. But it's not. It's Joe Buck the TV personality.
- [24:45]
Dan Bernstein
Different Joe Buck.
- [24:46]
Matt Abeticola
Different Joe Buck.
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Dan Bernstein
Not that he wouldn't consider maybe as a late career move becoming a male.
- [24:50]
Matt Abeticola
Hustler in New York City.
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Dan Bernstein
Wherever.
- [24:52]
Matt Abeticola
Right. All right, so that's Troy Aikman. And finally, the last honorable mention before we hit our top ten is Emmett Smith. Emmett James Smith, the third. Former American professional football running back for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football league. He played 15 seasons primarily for the Dallas Cowboys. He is the league's Dan. All time leading rusher. But not good enough to make the list of the top 10 Cowboys of all time.
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Dan Bernstein
Wow, that sets the mind a spinning.
- [25:20]
Matt Abeticola
Yes, it.
- [25:27]
Dan Bernstein
To use cowboy vernacular, yes, it does.
- [25:30]
Matt Abeticola
Wow.
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Dan Bernstein
You got a pretty mouth there, boy. Just wait. Wait till you get to my number five.
- [25:38]
Matt Abeticola
All right, number 10. This is the official list of all 10.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Okay. Did I tell you the criteria yet?
- [25:46]
Dan Bernstein
No. Right.
- [25:47]
Matt Abeticola
Here you go. Here's the criteria that the selection committee used for their top 10 Cowboys of all time. Their cultural impact.
- [25:54]
Dan Bernstein
Okay, okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Their societal popularity. Awards and accolades.
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Dan Bernstein
Cowboy awards. Well, okay.
- [26:04]
Matt Abeticola
Revenue generation, very important.
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Dan Bernstein
And length of success, like peak value versus career value. Yeah, got it. Okay, good.
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Matt Abeticola
That's the criteria. All right, these are. Now this just handed to me here. Look, see, look at that. I have the list. The top 10 cowboys of all time. Okay, number 10, the Village People Cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
All right.
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Matt Abeticola
The cowboy and the Village people was Randy Jones, a founding member of the former Padre pitcher. No, not that guy.
- [26:37]
Dan Bernstein
Okay.
- [26:37]
Matt Abeticola
Different guy with the.
- [26:39]
Dan Bernstein
With the afro.
- [26:42]
Matt Abeticola
Not the same guy.
- [26:43]
Dan Bernstein
That would have been awesome.
- [26:44]
Matt Abeticola
Similar to like Joe Buck in the mo. Joe Buck on tv. If it were Akman.
- [26:48]
Dan Bernstein
If it were Randy Jones, the Padres 20 game winner and what? 78.
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Matt Abeticola
Not 78.
- [26:55]
Dan Bernstein
Did he win?
- [26:56]
Matt Abeticola
20, if you get that right, I'll look it up. But if that's correct, good for you. All right, so he was Randy Jones, a founding member of the Disco group known for his iconic Persona and role hits like YMCA.
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Dan Bernstein
Damn it. 76 and 75 and 76.
- [27:10]
Matt Abeticola
That's a good guess though, buddy. That's. That's really good.
- [27:13]
Dan Bernstein
He lost 22 in 74. Though too many ones.
- [27:18]
Matt Abeticola
He should have like one less to lose less. The following season. Jones was born in Raleigh, N.C. was discovered by the hotel room in Raleigh, North Carolina. The Village People's producers.
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Dan Bernstein
He was discovered in uniform, but in.
- [27:34]
Matt Abeticola
New York City, he became a beloved figure. I just want. Like, I hear. I read that it's like the Village People's producers, like, they just want to.
- [27:45]
Dan Bernstein
We need a cowboy gentleman. Scour New York City for a cowboy.
- [27:50]
Matt Abeticola
In New York City.
- [27:51]
Dan Bernstein
Got one.
- [27:52]
Matt Abeticola
They're looking for salsa too, in New York City. All right, so that's number 10.
- [27:57]
Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
- [27:58]
Matt Abeticola
All right, you want to share your 10 or how do you want to do it?
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Dan Bernstein
My number. I give you my number 10.
- [28:02]
Matt Abeticola
Yeah, do that.
- [28:03]
Dan Bernstein
Let me. Can I give you my. My alternates first?
- [28:06]
Matt Abeticola
Oh, absolutely.
- [28:07]
Dan Bernstein
Gave you all the bills and I mentioned Bass Reeves on there.
- [28:09]
Matt Abeticola
So these are honorable mentions.
- [28:10]
Dan Bernstein
The honorable mention. Because I think they're all the same person. These are cowboys that I don't really care to distinguish from each other in one way or another.
- [28:19]
Matt Abeticola
All right.
- [28:20]
Dan Bernstein
Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, Annie Oakley and Will Rogers.
- [28:23]
Matt Abeticola
Okay. Yeah.
- [28:24]
Dan Bernstein
All right. Good group. That's just the group. They have their own room together and they can go to their own little hoot. Nami.
- [28:30]
Matt Abeticola
Yeah, they were. They were on the list of 60.
- [28:32]
Dan Bernstein
Okay. Because they're all the same. Whatever.
- [28:35]
Matt Abeticola
All right, you want to give you number 10.
- [28:36]
Dan Bernstein
Number 10 is William Money. M U N N y.
- [28:41]
Matt Abeticola
Absolutely.
- [28:41]
Dan Bernstein
That is Clint Eastwood's character from Unforgiven who I believe last we found him in the epilogue is a dry goods salesman. Why are you laughing? That is absolutely letter of the script. True. I know he has made. He's made a nice career for himself when he's not murdering people. It's a hell of a thing to kill a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever going to have now. Great movie. I got some fertilizer and some wheat I can sell you.
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Matt Abeticola
So you have number 10. William. William Money.
- [29:13]
Dan Bernstein
It's a hell of a thing to sell a man a sack of flour. It's the best price that you're going to get west of the Pecos.
- [29:21]
Matt Abeticola
I love when you make yourself giggle.
- [29:23]
Dan Bernstein
Sorry. He tried to. It's my brand.
- [29:27]
Matt Abeticola
You've got nothing to be sorry.
- [29:29]
Dan Bernstein
He's always sick. I don't want a free one from you. That's okay. Gotta go kill Little Bill. I'm kill you today.
- [29:38]
Matt Abeticola
You sound like.
- [29:39]
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Robert Loggia.
- [29:42]
Matt Abeticola
Yeah, that's what you say.
- [29:44]
Dan Bernstein
Oh, my God. Robert Logia. You shouldn't be here.
- [29:47]
Matt Abeticola
Who would you listen to?
- [29:50]
Dan Bernstein
Listen to William Money.
- [29:51]
Matt Abeticola
Try some New Minute Made orange tangerine.
- [29:53]
Dan Bernstein
It's got calcium and I'm not drinking it. Oh, no, it's sweet.
- [29:57]
Matt Abeticola
You'll like it.
- [29:58]
Dan Bernstein
I don't believe you. Well, then who would you believe? I don't know. Robert Loggia. Whoa. Robert Loggia. Billy, your mother's right. New Minute Maid. Orange tangerine tastes great and it's got as much calcium as milk. If you say so, Mr. Logia. Yeah, this is great. Enjoy your breakfast. New Minute Mate. Orange tangerine with calcium. Yeah. Yeah.
- [30:21]
Matt Abeticola
Your mother's real good looking, too, kid.
- [30:24]
Dan Bernstein
Here's my number.
- [30:25]
Matt Abeticola
Like to talk to your mother alone. All right.
- [30:27]
Dan Bernstein
That was my. My number 10 was William Money. Dry William Money, Salesman. Yes.
- [30:31]
Matt Abeticola
Not. Not William Loja.
- [30:33]
Dan Bernstein
No. And not Eddie Money.
- [30:35]
Matt Abeticola
Different category. All right, number nine, the man with no Name.
- [30:42]
Dan Bernstein
That's also an Eastwood character, right?
- [30:44]
Matt Abeticola
Correct. The man with no Name is the. The star of the Dollars trilogy, also known as the man with no Name.
- [30:50]
Dan Bernstein
Trilogy is Full of Dollars, an Italian.
- [30:53]
Matt Abeticola
Film series consisting of three Spaghett assload of dollars directed by Sergio Leone.
- [30:59]
Dan Bernstein
Hey, Pezzo, the chef is here.
- [31:04]
Matt Abeticola
The films are titled A Fistful of Dollars for a Few Dollars More and the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
- [31:11]
Dan Bernstein
Oh, that's right. That did count. I love that movie.
- [31:13]
Matt Abeticola
It's a great movie. All three are great.
- [31:15]
Dan Bernstein
Well, the Good, the Bad, the Ugly is because, like, leave it clean.
- [31:18]
Matt Abeticola
No, it's great. Their English versions were distributed by United Artist and starred Clint Eastwood as the man with no Name. That checks in at number nine on the greatest list of cowboys.
- [31:29]
Dan Bernstein
Number nine for me is the team of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
- [31:33]
Matt Abeticola
Ooh, wow.
- [31:34]
Dan Bernstein
I have those two. Robert Redford Scott. Wait, we allowed again, Robert Redford? Yes, I think.
- [31:40]
Matt Abeticola
Oh, yeah. The star of Up Close and Personal.
- [31:41]
Dan Bernstein
Yes. Robert Redford and Paul Newman. So, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. That is my number nine on the list of all time cowboys. They get to share one.
- [31:52]
Matt Abeticola
All right, the actual list. We'll return to that. Now, the 10 greatest cowboys of all time. Number eight, Rip Wheeler.
- [32:02]
Dan Bernstein
Not Rip Taylor. That would be great, but no, we're saved. The ladies are tied to the railroad tracks. And here comes Rip Taylor throwing confetti everywhere. Stops for a second and then takes off throwing confetti. Train runs are over.
- [32:24]
Matt Abeticola
It sounds like one of your comedy lawyers.
- [32:27]
Dan Bernstein
Rip Taylor.
- [32:28]
Matt Abeticola
Yes. Oh, he's.
- [32:29]
Dan Bernstein
Believe me, he's consulted. He's of counsel. He isn't part of the Partnership of my comedy criminal lawyers. But he's definitely of counsel. They bring him in when they need him. He's like Barry Sheck.
- [32:39]
Matt Abeticola
Always good to have good consultants in your life.
- [32:42]
Dan Bernstein
Oh, absolutely. Because, yeah, he comes in for, like, DNA evidence and stuff.
- [32:45]
Matt Abeticola
All right, number eight, Rip Wheeler, central character in the TV series Yellowstone, portrayed by actor Cole Hauser. He's a loyal right handed.
- [32:53]
Dan Bernstein
The.
- [32:54]
Matt Abeticola
The loyal right hand man and enforcer for John Dutton, the patriarch of the Dutton family.
- [32:58]
Dan Bernstein
And wasn't John Dutton on the Cowboys.
- [33:00]
Matt Abeticola
As the ranch's fixer?
- [33:02]
Dan Bernstein
Wait, John Dutton. Wait, so we have Randy Jones and now we have John Dutton.
- [33:06]
Matt Abeticola
No, I think you're. No, no, no, no, no. I think you're mistaken.
- [33:10]
Dan Bernstein
John Dutton, American, former professional football player who's a defensive lineman in the NFL for the Colts and the Cowboys. Yes. And he's from Rapid City, South Dakota.
- [33:21]
Matt Abeticola
And went to the Browns. You were thinking of Charles Dutton, the actor who was in Rudy.
- [33:26]
Dan Bernstein
No. Which is a football movie. Actual cowboy. He was on the Cowboys.
- [33:31]
Matt Abeticola
Okay. But this John Dutton is the John Dutton portrayed by Kevin Costner.
- [33:36]
Dan Bernstein
Fine.
- [33:38]
Matt Abeticola
When he lasts those cattle, he doesn't need a rope.
- [33:44]
Dan Bernstein
The cattle are just like. Nope. No, I'm good. Yeah, I'll go over here.
- [33:48]
Matt Abeticola
Where do you need me to go?
- [33:49]
Dan Bernstein
Just put that away and I'll walk over here. That's fine.
- [33:54]
Matt Abeticola
All right, number eight, Rip Wheeler.
- [33:57]
Dan Bernstein
My number eight, by the way, again, was the Cartwrights.
- [34:00]
Matt Abeticola
Oh, that's right. That's right. You had the Cartwright clan.
- [34:02]
Dan Bernstein
Yes.
- [34:02]
Matt Abeticola
Not Bill Cartwright.
- [34:04]
Dan Bernstein
No. No.
- [34:05]
Matt Abeticola
You had Ben Cartwright, Hoss and Adam and Little Joe and Chaim. Chaim Cartwright.
- [34:11]
Dan Bernstein
Yes.
- [34:12]
Matt Abeticola
He wasn't around the ranch much.
- [34:14]
Dan Bernstein
No, he was.
- [34:14]
Matt Abeticola
He was up at school.
- [34:15]
Dan Bernstein
He did the taxes. He did all the books for them.
- [34:20]
Matt Abeticola
He had an office in town.
- [34:22]
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Nice. Really good commercial real estate.
- [34:24]
Matt Abeticola
Well, he did taxes by day and.
- [34:27]
Dan Bernstein
I roped sheep at night. I don't know what he did.
- [34:30]
Matt Abeticola
Well, on weekends he sold jewelry.
- [34:32]
Dan Bernstein
No, he didn't work on weekends.
- [34:33]
Matt Abeticola
Oh, that's right.
- [34:35]
Dan Bernstein
Couldn't. Maybe Sundays he could. Right? Yeah. Wholesale jewelry.
- [34:40]
Matt Abeticola
All right. Oh, and Little Joe was played by Sir Alec Guinness. No. Who was Little Joe? Wasn't Little Joe someone famous? I don't know, like really famous.
- [34:52]
Dan Bernstein
Gary from Evanston is not here. No, I really didn't watch Bonanza. I wasn't.
- [34:57]
Matt Abeticola
You never watched Bonanza?
- [34:58]
Dan Bernstein
I'm sure I have. I don't. I just. I didn't watch any of that corn pone bull crap growing up.
- [35:04]
Matt Abeticola
Wow.
- [35:04]
Dan Bernstein
I didn't.
- [35:06]
Matt Abeticola
Oh, yeah. Michael Landon Oh, Little Joe.
- [35:09]
Dan Bernstein
Got it.
- [35:11]
Matt Abeticola
You know Michael Landon, right?
- [35:12]
Dan Bernstein
I do, yes. Not personally, but go. So what's, what's number seven?
- [35:15]
Matt Abeticola
Sorry.
- [35:15]
Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
- [35:16]
Matt Abeticola
All right, relax, man.
- [35:18]
Dan Bernstein
I am relaxed. Stop telling me to relax.
- [35:20]
Matt Abeticola
Number seven on the official list of the top ten cowboys of all time is. William Money.
- [35:25]
Dan Bernstein
Okay, very good. Yep. My number seven, Woody from Toy Story. Oh, wow. I have especially cultural impact. And it was a leader of people.
- [35:39]
Matt Abeticola
Yeah.
- [35:39]
Dan Bernstein
For things that mattered.
- [35:41]
Matt Abeticola
Wow. This is really interesting how this is shaping out.
- [35:43]
Dan Bernstein
So I have Woody from Toy Story is my number seven.
- [35:46]
Matt Abeticola
Number seven. All right, number six. Number six on the list. U.S. marshal Rooster Cogburn. Sure.
- [35:53]
Dan Bernstein
John Wayne. True Grit. Yep.
- [35:56]
Matt Abeticola
Marshall Reuben J. Rooster Cogburn is a fictional character from Charlie Portis 1968 novel, True Grit.
- [36:03]
Dan Bernstein
It.
- [36:03]
Matt Abeticola
It's film adaptations. Known for his one eyed, grizzled and reckless nature.
- [36:08]
Dan Bernstein
And his one eyed trousers snake.
- [36:11]
Matt Abeticola
That's Kevin Costner and a deputy U.S. marshal. The character is a composite of real life lawmen who served under Judge Parker's court in Fort Smith. Fort Smith, Arkansas. John Wayne won an Academy Award for his portrayal in the 1968 film. Okay, so six. U.S. marshal Rooster Cogburn.
- [36:31]
Dan Bernstein
My number six Twinkie the Kid. This would be.
- [36:35]
Matt Abeticola
Oh wow.
- [36:36]
Dan Bernstein
Yeah, that's a good one. The cowboy. The Twinkie logo at one point.
- [36:40]
Matt Abeticola
The Twinkie cowboy hat. Lasso.
- [36:43]
Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Your Twinkies mascot was Twinkie the Kid? He had the chaps on, I believe. Or he was just chapped for some reason. I don't remember what he was.
- [36:52]
Matt Abeticola
He had chaps with no legs though. Right.
- [36:54]
Dan Bernstein
Well then they're not chaps.
- [36:57]
Matt Abeticola
Did he have legs? I thought he was this one big tube. A cowboy tube. A tube of Twinkie. Fresh pastry.
- [37:04]
Dan Bernstein
The Kid. No, he has legs. And boots.
- [37:08]
Matt Abeticola
Boots? Were they made for walking?
- [37:11]
Dan Bernstein
I think they were, yeah. He's got boots with little stars on him.
- [37:14]
Matt Abeticola
Nice.
- [37:14]
Dan Bernstein
But he's not wearing chaps. I guess I had that wrong.
- [37:17]
Matt Abeticola
So you're. Well, in your dreams.
- [37:20]
Dan Bernstein
I imagined chaps as was chaps. I like him. Well, all chaps are assless. Otherwise they're pants.
- [37:26]
Matt Abeticola
Well, not necessarily because you have assless pants that aren't chaps.
- [37:30]
Dan Bernstein
But that's the converse of what I said. Logically.
- [37:33]
Matt Abeticola
But it's also the converse of what I said, illogically.
- [37:37]
Dan Bernstein
Rationality is a perception. Yes. Perception is irrational and applies imminence. But judgment of any epistemological. Sorry, that's June.
- [37:50]
Matt Abeticola
So your number six is Twinkie the Kid.
- [37:52]
Dan Bernstein
One of those June people in all of the rushes. Yes. Twinkie the kid. Number six. Number five.
- [37:58]
Matt Abeticola
All right, number five. Here we are. Top five now. Top five cowboys of all time.
- [38:02]
Dan Bernstein
Boy, we've made it.
- [38:03]
Matt Abeticola
Number five, the Lone Ranger.
- [38:05]
Dan Bernstein
Not the blown Ranger. No. Okay.
- [38:12]
Matt Abeticola
Not Chris Ronge.
- [38:13]
Dan Bernstein
No.
- [38:14]
Matt Abeticola
The Lone Ranger. The actual the Lone Ranger.
- [38:17]
Dan Bernstein
Hey, Box. I'm on a horse. I have the Lone Ranger.
- [38:20]
Matt Abeticola
It's not a horse.
- [38:21]
Dan Bernstein
Okay, so number five.
- [38:23]
Matt Abeticola
Yeah. Number five. The Lone Ranger. A fictional masked hero of the American Old west created by George W. Trendle and Fran Stryker for a 1933 radio show. He's a former Texas Ranger, not the baseball kind, named John Reed, who, after surviving an ambush that killed his brother and fellow Rangers, dedicates his life to fighting crime with his Native American companion, Todd. Yes.
- [38:47]
Dan Bernstein
Also not a cowboy.
- [38:48]
Matt Abeticola
Not a cowboy. Correct.
- [38:49]
Dan Bernstein
Okay. My number five.
- [38:51]
Matt Abeticola
Yes.
- [38:51]
Dan Bernstein
Is the romantic couple of Ennis Del Mar and Jack Twist. Yep.
- [38:57]
Matt Abeticola
Also on the list of 60. Ennis del Mar.
- [39:01]
Dan Bernstein
I can't really decide, so I'm going to put.
- [39:04]
Matt Abeticola
That's Heath Ledger and Jake gyllenhaal, who.
- [39:06]
Dan Bernstein
Portrayed Enes Del Mar. And Jack Twist. Annie Prue's story of Brokeback Mountain. That's my number five.
- [39:14]
Matt Abeticola
Nice. All right, number four. Here we have Lucas McCain.
- [39:19]
Dan Bernstein
I know that name.
- [39:21]
Matt Abeticola
Was the widowed rancher and protagonist of the classic Western TV series the Rifleman. Played by Chuck Connors, former cub. Yes. He was a Union Civil War veteran who moved to the New Mexico territory with his son Mark to raise him with strong moral values. Known for his rapid fire customized Winchester rifle, Lucas was a principled man who prioritized teaching his son about honor and responsibility while upholding justice in the Lawless West. Number four, Lucas McCain.
- [39:51]
Dan Bernstein
Number four on my list, Yosemite Sam.
- [39:54]
Matt Abeticola
Nice. Yeah. Also on the 60. That was good. That's a good one. There was a lot of conversation within the committee about Yosemite Sam.
- [40:03]
Dan Bernstein
Because that's a hell of a career.
- [40:05]
Matt Abeticola
Yeah, it is.
- [40:06]
Dan Bernstein
I mean, as far as just overall lasting value. Seeing him on the semi trailer mud flap, saying, back off, brandishing his six shooters at his sides.
- [40:20]
Matt Abeticola
Do you remember this character who was on the list of 60? Didn't make the honorable mentions or the top 10. Remember the character, Nasty Canasta?
- [40:30]
Dan Bernstein
No.
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Matt Abeticola
Was a protagonist, an antagonist in the Looney Tunes cartoons with Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny. He was a cow.
- [40:41]
Dan Bernstein
Donald Duck, you're saying.
- [40:42]
Matt Abeticola
I'm sorry. Daffy Duck. Yes. Nasty Canasta.
- [40:47]
Dan Bernstein
No.
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Matt Abeticola
Look him up. You'll recognize his face. Once you see it, you'll recognize his face.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. I didn't know he Had a name.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes. Nasty canasta.
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Dan Bernstein
Yep. Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
Was on the list of 60.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, he's really mean.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, real mean, too. That's a real good looking cowboy there.
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Dan Bernstein
If you know what I mean. Yeah. Get his shirt undone.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah. Take him to a mountain.
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Dan Bernstein
He's. Oh, yeah, he's a mountain. Party with nasty canasta.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, you do.
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Dan Bernstein
Be fun.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, you have. All right, top three. Here you go.
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Dan Bernstein
Number three.
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Matt Abeticola
Ready?
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Dan Bernstein
Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
Number three is Wyatt Earp.
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Dan Bernstein
My number three.
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Matt Abeticola
Wyatt Earp.
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Dan Bernstein
Wow, look at you and the Earps nailing it. I also.
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Matt Abeticola
You did the whole clan again, Morgan.
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Dan Bernstein
Virgil, you can have all the Earps and all their great mustaches that they. The. The only thing we've agreed on so far is Wyatt Earp. And the Earps at number three.
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Matt Abeticola
Wyatt Berry Stapp Earp was a lawman in the American West.
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Dan Bernstein
I thought you were adding herbs.
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Matt Abeticola
I thought I was like Wyatt Berry Berry.
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Dan Bernstein
No, these are the Gibbs, right, Barry Maurice Earp. I've got. I've been taught something really wrong here.
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Matt Abeticola
You didn't know the Gibbs were part of the Earps?
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Dan Bernstein
I never confused my Gibbses and my Earps.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah. Though the Gibbses and Earps were related somewhat in the law, somewhat in the singing and not law like practicing law, but like law men keeping the law. Yeah, Keeping the law.
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Dan Bernstein
Keeping the law. Keeping the law.
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Matt Abeticola
Singing it. So he was involved in the gunfight at the O.K. corral. You know, they should have kept the horses at the better corral. It was just. Okay. It's okay. It was okay.
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Dan Bernstein
It was the Yelp review of the corral.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, it was okay. Yeah. I've been the better corrals.
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Dan Bernstein
It's like Golden Corral, for example.
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Matt Abeticola
Much better.
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Dan Bernstein
Much better off at Golden.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes. This one. Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
Doug Buffone is still there eating at the Golden Corral. No, that wasn't the Golden Corral. It was the name of the Coyote Canyon.
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Matt Abeticola
It was. Oh, God.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
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Matt Abeticola
In Verbanim.
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Dan Bernstein
Coyote Canyon was like the Teemu version of Golden Corral.
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Matt Abeticola
Right? That. Wasn't that. Right by the pizza place. We avoided.
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Dan Bernstein
Pizza place. We avoided.
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Matt Abeticola
Oh, there was like a all you can eat buffet pizza place. You don't remember that?
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, I asked you to go. No, that. That was different. That we did go there.
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Matt Abeticola
Oh, was that. Was it monocles?
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Dan Bernstein
Yes, that's where we did go there, remember?
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Matt Abeticola
No, obviously I don't.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay.
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Matt Abeticola
That wasn't the. That wasn't the time. We drank all the. What was that? What was that?
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Dan Bernstein
We drank the amarettos. Yeah, but we Tried to. We tried to drink the entire Bradley Bourbon. A Kankakee area out of all the Amaretto. Yeah. For no reason.
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Matt Abeticola
Sound like a good thing to do.
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Dan Bernstein
We almost did it, too.
- [43:34]
Matt Abeticola
Almost.
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Dan Bernstein
Did it work for those meddling kids? That mangy, we'd have gotten away with it.
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Matt Abeticola
Damn it. So he was at the OK Corral. The. They killed some outlaws. Earp was famously portrayed by. By Kevin Costner, Kurt Russell. Oh, and then here, the committee gave an honorable mention to Doc Holliday as portrayed by Iceman Val Kilmer. Only because you wouldn't allow him as a cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
All right, all right.
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Matt Abeticola
Number. So number two is. It's. It's a duo you already mentioned. So the committee, which Cassidy. Sundance Kid as number two.
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Dan Bernstein
I had Lone Ranger.
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Matt Abeticola
Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
I had the Lone Ranger as number two.
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Matt Abeticola
So committee had him at five. You had Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid at nine.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
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Matt Abeticola
Okay. So the committee had that up at. At 2, the 1969American Western Buddy film which really gave. Gave legs to the Lethal Weapon movies, which were a buddy film.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, 48 Hours also was the original Buddy cop.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, yeah. Directed by George Roy Hill, written by William Goldman, based loosely on fact, the film tells of the story of Wild west outlaws. Robert Leroy Parker, known as Butch Cassidy. That's Paul Newman. As you did a Skypoint. Did he die? He's dead, right? Is he dead?
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Dan Bernstein
Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
Okay, well, I don't keep track of dead people. I just see them. I don't keep track of them.
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Dan Bernstein
I keep track of dead people.
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Matt Abeticola
That's what the original line was. The director's like, yeah, we could do better.
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Dan Bernstein
Then you're a weirdo.
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Matt Abeticola
Seeing dead people. Fine. Keeping track of dead people, weirdo. Right.
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Dan Bernstein
Unless you're doing both. The ones you see. Definitely keep track. Keep track of them.
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Matt Abeticola
All right. Robert Redford mentioned him. He's of course, the star of the film up close and personal. The two are on the run from the US Posse. After a string of train robberies, the duo and a love interest escape to.
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Dan Bernstein
Raindrops Fall on my head, they seem to. Bolivia. Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
Correct.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
Because why wouldn't you?
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Dan Bernstein
Because Bolivia is where one goes. Yes.
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Matt Abeticola
All right. And the. The overall number one cowboy of all time as chosen by the selection committee is Woody. Okay, Woody, the protagonist of the Disney franchise Toy Story.
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Dan Bernstein
Not mine.
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Matt Abeticola
What is your number one cowboy? Overall Number one cowboy.
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Dan Bernstein
The fastest draw in the history of the West.
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Matt Abeticola
I know who it is. Can I guess? Is it Quick Draw McGraw?
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Dan Bernstein
It is not Quick Draw McGraw.
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Matt Abeticola
Shoot.
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Dan Bernstein
It is as portrayed in the movie Blazing Saddles by Gene Wilder.
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Matt Abeticola
Very good.
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Dan Bernstein
It is. The Waco Kid.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah. Very good. No, that's a. That's a good pick. I like. And that fits for you, too.
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Dan Bernstein
Are we awake?
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, that's good.
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Dan Bernstein
Are we black? The Waco Kid.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
And we're awake.
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Matt Abeticola
Very good.
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Dan Bernstein
Very puzzled.
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Matt Abeticola
Nicely done.
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Dan Bernstein
There is indeed nicely done. The Waco Kid. So there we go. Those are your top 10 Cowboys in the history of cowboys. Now, before you get angry, and I know this is going to create a great deal of gnashing of teeth, feedback, and anger.
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Matt Abeticola
And@312sports.com there's.
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Dan Bernstein
There is one that I left out because that should have probably been on the list. And I was debating. And I took him out. The Marlboro Man.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah, he was on the list of 60, too.
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Dan Bernstein
I took out the Marlboro also. They all kept dying. Right. I just thought it was kind of a bad example because, you know, they were too smoky and then they were dead.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
And the other one I thought of was Jack Palance's character from City Slickers, Curly.
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Matt Abeticola
Oh, yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Because I just. I liked his character.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
And he died of a heart attack. As they said. The man ate bacon at every meal.
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Matt Abeticola
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
You can't do that.
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Matt Abeticola
You know, he died of a heart attack.
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Dan Bernstein
I got all. The horse caught on fire.
- [47:12]
Matt Abeticola
Hate when the horse catches on fire.
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Dan Bernstein
When you're riding it. Damn.
- [47:17]
Matt Abeticola
It just keeps bursting in the flames.
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Dan Bernstein
It happened again.
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Matt Abeticola
All right, so those are the top 10 cowboys of all time. We will do the top 10 lists for every. Every Bears.
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Dan Bernstein
Raiders of all time.
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Matt Abeticola
That's gonna be a good one. Raiders. We. I mean, what do we have coming up? We have Raiders, we have packers, we have Saints, we have. Oh. Oh, my God. I've already started working with committee.
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Dan Bernstein
You can't start yet.
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Matt Abeticola
But the committee. The committee is working on it.
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Dan Bernstein
But you're not on the committee.
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Matt Abeticola
I'm not on it, but I said they're working on it.
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Dan Bernstein
No, you said you started working with them.
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Matt Abeticola
No, I. I saw them starting to work on it.
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Dan Bernstein
Where are they?
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Matt Abeticola
They're in the hallway. Okay, if you go down the hall to the right, just go left and then you come back to the right around the loop. They're there with the committee.
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Dan Bernstein
I thought that was room. Wait, Vic, is the committee.
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Matt Abeticola
I'm not saying.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, I think it was the committee.
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Matt Abeticola
That wrote penis on your list as well. Or it might have been, Vic, but the. We also have the 10. The top 10 bangles of all time, which is going to be a really good category.
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Dan Bernstein
I agree. Yeah.
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Matt Abeticola
All right. That's the top 10 rapid. Are we wrapping it?
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Dan Bernstein
I think so. I think we said all we need to say.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because Bears Cowboys, you're never going to.
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Dan Bernstein
Be more ready for this for Bears Cowboys and armed with the knowledge that you were given today. So be with us for post game. Just keep an eye out.
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Matt Abeticola
Peace be with you.
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Dan Bernstein
And yeah, we should actually have a mass after the game.
- [48:41]
Matt Abeticola
I might have to. I'm telling you, it's going to be an ugly loss.
- [48:45]
Dan Bernstein
Take this.
- [48:45]
Matt Abeticola
Just get ready for it. Yeah. Kevin Costner out of this. It's the chef.
- [48:53]
Dan Bernstein
May I come in? No, no, no.
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Matt Abeticola
Well, you can leave Tom Brady on the porch.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, we got Tom Brady.
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Matt Abeticola
Yeah. I'm telling you, we're going to need. We're going to need a spiritual cleansing when it's over. You're going to have Tom Brady. You're going to have a terrible loss at home, a 207 yards by a receiver on the opposing team, zero sacks and a lack of championship effort.
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Dan Bernstein
This has been Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast on 312 Sports.
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Matt Abeticola
Forward progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 312 Sports.