Chicago Bears Depth Chart: What Did We Learn?

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Podcast Summary: Forward Progress - A Chicago Bears Podcast

Episode: Chicago Bears Depth Chart: What Did We Learn?
Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Matt Abbatacola (312 Sports)
Date: May 1, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the recently updated Chicago Bears depth chart in the wake of the 2026 NFL Draft and free agency period. Dan Bernstein and Matt Abbatacola provide granular analysis, mixing detailed roster insights with signature banter and humor. The conversation ranges from roster breakdowns and NFL nostalgia to recent league news and some colorful detours into food and weekend plans.

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Detailed Breakdown

1. Reviewing the Bears Depth Chart

Timestamps: 01:59–07:22

• Source & Approach: Dan prefers the "Our Lads" depth chart as a non-biased reference for lineup analysis.
  • "I generally default to Our Lads... The objective one... I think it provides the color-coded information." (02:36, Dan)

Offensive Breakdown

• WR Room:
  • Slot receiver is Khalif Raymond, flanked by Rome Odunze and Luther Burden.
  • Noteworthy: Xavion Thomas (recent draft pick) immediately behind Burden; Jade Walker behind Odunze.
• Left Tackle: Ozzy Trapillo listed but marked as injured; backups are Theo Benedict & Jedrick Wills Jr.
• Right Tackle: Braxton Jones currently backup; Kiran Amaga-Dje is third string.
• Tight End: Sam Roush (3rd rd pick) already listed as TE3.
• Center: Garrett Bradbury starting, Logan Jones backing up.
• Quarterbacks: Caleb Williams, then Tyson Bagent, Case Keenum, Miller Moss.
  • "So they still have Caleb ahead of Bajent." (04:54, Matt)
  • "They do. Amazingly. I know that shocks you." (04:57, Dan)

Defensive Breakdown

• New Starters:
  • Devin Bush (MLB), Kobe Bryant (FS), Dylan Thienaman (SS).
• DL Depth:
  • Neville Gallimore & Kentavius Street as DT reserves; James Lynch, Jordan Van der Vandenberg on 3rd string.
• CBs: 4th-rounder Malik Muhammad is Tyrique Stevenson’s backup.
• DEs: Montez Sweat and Dio Odengbo are starters; Austin Booker, Daniel Hardy as backups.
• Special Teams:
  • Long snapper: Luke Elkin
  • Xavion Thomas now both #1 for punt and kick returns, with Khalif Raymond as backup, shifting from prior listings.
    • "Okay, well then that's changed because Khalif Raymond was listed as the punt returner..." (06:41, Matt)

Key Takeaways

• Dan is concerned about the defense with Devin Bush replacing Tremaine Edmunds:
  • "I keep looking at that one, I'm like, I think Tremaine Edmunds did more than you think he did. I really do. I continue to have some concerns about the quality of this defense..." (07:23, Dan)

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2. NFL Nostalgia: Calais Campbell and Draft Classes

Timestamps: 08:01–12:42

• Reverie on Calais Campbell’s longevity and the surprising persistence of players from the 2008 draft.
  • Fun names: Matt Forte (“how long has he been retired?”), Joe Flacco, Josh Johnson (still active).
• Reflection on the 2008 Bears draft—few memorable names besides Matt Forte.
  • "Man, we were, God, we were right in our prime there." (13:01, Matt)
  • "I don't remember any of those names." (13:06, Dan)

Memorable Moment

• Funny story about boosting player interview turnout during training camp with the help of a blonde friend and a golf cart.
  • "That's like switching from plastics to live shiners... you bring the live bait with you and one guest after another..." (14:45, Dan)

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3. Early 2027 Mock Draft and NFL Draft Ratings

Timestamps: 16:47–21:32

2027 Mock Draft

• Jordan Reid’s first ESPN mock draft: Bears projected to pick Ahmad Moten, DT (Miami), 16th overall.
  • "That's not the issue. Why 16? They're gonna finish... in the middle of the league. Yeah, the hell? I don't like this." (17:36, Dan)
  • Matt and Dan joke about knowing nothing about the prospect.

NFL Draft Ratings

• Noted decline (12% down YOY) in NFL Draft viewing despite being third-highest ever.
• Both hosts skeptical that Shadour Sanders' draft slide meaningfully impacted viewership.
  • "Do you really think that Shador Sanders drama made that big difference?" (20:34, Dan)
  • "No, absolutely not." (20:34, Matt)

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4. Cleveland Browns QB Drama and the Mary Kay Cabot Controversy

Timestamps: 21:32–28:10

• Browns depth chart: early camp suggests Deshaun Watson ahead of Shadour Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, Taylen Green.
• Mary Kay Cabot (legendary Browns beat reporter) advocates for naming Watson the starter—elicits “go make a sandwich” from Shiloh Sanders, sparking a strong rebuke from Dan and Matt.

Notable Quotes

• "Mary Kay Cabot is not to be messed with... when it comes to a beat reporter in the NFL—not just in a rabid football city, but in the entire league." (24:51, Dan)
• "To tell her to go make a sandwich because she's a woman... that's just stupid." (27:00, Dan)
• Both are unified in their praise and defense of Cabot’s professionalism.

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5. NFL Roster/Option News & Family Connections

Timestamps: 28:21–30:11

• Fifth-year options declined for several recent picks (Broderick Jones, Tyree Wilson, Miles Murphy).
• Bengals’ personnel moves overseen by Duke Tobin, son of long-time Bears executive Bill Tobin.
  • Brief family tree review for NFL front office nerds.

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6. The 312 Sports Rewards, Food Talk, and Weekend Plans

Timestamps: 30:11–38:39

Reward Announcement

• New rewards on the 312 Sports app, including dinners and Weezer concert tickets (promo code: MATT for entries).

Food Discussion

• Giordano’s pizza for Jackson’s birthday.
• Extended banter about favorite toppings.
• Classic food cravings triggered by recording schedule.

Weekend Chores and Annoyances

• Amusing exchange about folding laundry:
  • "You wash laundry and then just let it sit... that's pathological that you're lazy." (39:14, Matt)
  • "It has to age." (39:29, Dan)
• Brief argument over proper string cheese etiquette—unanimous on 'pull it into strings,' not bite.

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7. NFL Comebacks & Player Reputations

Timestamps: 35:09–37:16

• Former Bear Chase Claypool gets a Packers rookie minicamp tryout.
• Immediate comedic riff:
  • "That would be trading a high second round pick for Chase Claypool..." (35:43, Dan)
  • "He should go to the Mickey Rooney camp instead of rookie mini camp." (36:02, Matt)
  • Advice for Claypool: "Try. Actually physically try and put some effort into what you do." (36:36, Dan)

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8. Final Food Tangent: Lupini Beans, Cheeses, and Charcuterie

Timestamps: 41:16–45:46

• Both hosts wax poetic on Italian deli treats, string cheese rituals, and how to enhance a charcuterie board with lupini beans and marcona almonds.
• "The tactile nature of it is part of the fun of having a string cheese." (42:25, Dan)
• "You also eat it slower, and that allows your body to... you're not as hungry when you eat it slower." (43:23, Dan)

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Notable Quotes

• On Using Depth Charts:
  "I go with Our Lads... that's sort of the objective one... it's the easiest for me to click around on." (02:36, Dan)
• On Trevor Edmunds’ Departure:
  "I think Tremaine Edmunds did more than you think he did..." (07:23, Dan)
• On QBs:
  "So they still have Caleb ahead of Bajent." (04:54, Matt)
• On Player Motivation:
  "Try. Actually physically try and put some effort into what you do. That probably would go a long way." (36:36, Dan on Claypool)
• On Mary Kay Cabot:
  "Mary Kay Cabot is not to be messed with... one of the all-time most trusted football voices." (24:51, Dan)

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Important Timestamps

• Bears Depth Chart Analysis: 01:59–07:22
• Calais Campbell Draft Class Reminiscence: 08:01–12:42
• Mock Draft & Ratings: 16:47–21:32
• Mary Kay Cabot/Deshaun Watson Discussion: 21:32–28:10
• Roster Option News: 28:21–30:11
• Rewards & Food Segment: 30:11–38:39
• Chase Claypool Comeback: 35:09–37:16
• Charcuterie, Cheese & Lupini Beans: 41:16–45:46

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Tone & Style

• Balanced, Knowledgeable, Witty: The hosts seamlessly blend in-depth football analysis with humor, personal anecdotes, and the feeling of an ongoing conversation with the Chicago fan base.
• Casual but Passionate: Passion for the Bears remains at the core, with periodic asides into real-life topics and nostalgia.

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For Listeners

If you missed this episode, you’ll get the latest on who’s on top of the Bears depth chart as camp opens, an honest read of rising and falling prospects, and a window into how Chicago sports media veterans weave fun and flavor into football talk. Come for the roster notes, stay for the wit and the snack tips.

Transcript

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[Matt Abeticola]

Has had forward progress. A Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and matabeticola on 31 2, sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

You've got forward progress on 312 sports. As we talk bears and NFL. And I decided this might be a good time and you tell me if it's not. I just want to see now that we are through free agency and the draft, the essential state of the Chicago Bears depth chart of who's where. That fair.

[Matt Abeticola]

I looked at it a bit yesterday with our conversation about Judavian Clowney. So, yeah, let's get a little deeper into it. Let's see what we got. You're gonna look at our lads.

[Dan Bernstein]

I generally I default to our lads because that's sort of the. The objective one. You're not getting the. The team one is going to have this and co that. You know, they don't want to have any drama, but so I go with our lads as my choice of just. It's the easiest for me to click around on and I think it provides the color coded information. It's just my, my personal choice. Let's do it and let's do it. Let's look first of all on offense as the new names. That shouldn't surprise anybody that Khalif Raymond is slotted in as slot wide receiver. That's now a listing for the offenses because you essentially your base package is three wide receivers and they have Roma Dunes, A Luther Burden and Khalif Raymond as the receivers. Also recently drafted Xavion Thomas is slotted right in behind Luther Burden as his direct backup. And a Dunes backup is listed as Jade Walker. Okay, you're starting left tackle at the moment. Showing injured is Ozzy Trapillo.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, well that's not accurate, but.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, but he's, he's there but showing injured with Theo Benedict and Jedrick Wills Jr. Behind him.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Braxton Jones is listed as the backup right tackle and Kieran. I'm a God J is behind him. So that's just, that's at the moment and take this for whatever it means. Sam Roush, the third round pick is the number three tight end and there's some familiar names behind him in Stephen Carlson and Nicola Kalanich who we know was active for at least one game. Your guy Hayden Large is well down that list. Hayden the large, Hayden the large. Garrett Bradbury, obviously the starting center with Logan Jones behind him. And anything else of note? Not really.

[Matt Abeticola]

What's the quarterback?

[Dan Bernstein]

Caleb Williams, Tyson Bagent, Case Keenum and Miller Moss.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right, so they still have Caleb ahead of Bajint.

[Dan Bernstein]

They do. Amazingly. I know that shocks you. On defense, your new starters are Devin. New starters are Devin Bush at middle linebacker and Kobe Bryant at free safety.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And strong safety Dylan Thienaman right there ahead of Cam Lewis and Skyler Thomas. The other guys, the other free agents here, Neville Gallimore, backup left defensive tackle, Kentavia street, backup right defensive tackle, James lynch, third string left. Newly drafted Jordan Van Der Vandenberg is the third string right defensive tackle. I do notice that Malik Muhammad, the fourth round pick at cornerback is listed as the backup to Tyreek Stevenson.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, what about defensive ends?

[Dan Bernstein]

Defensive ends, your starters are Montez Sweat and Dio Odengbo. The backups, Austin Booker on the right, Daniel Hardy on the left. Shamar Turner is listed as the third string right defensive end. Okay, so this is all obviously subject to change, but this is what we have now. Also, as I think we mentioned, the starting long snapper at the moment is Luke Elkin. And both the punt returner and kick returner are Xavian Thomas, ahead of Khalif Raymond, who's the backup at both. And then for the third string punt returner, it's burden third string kick returner Josh Blackwell.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, well then that's changed because Khalif Raymond was listed as the punt returner and Xavion Thomas was listed as the kick returner.

[Dan Bernstein]

I've got Xavier on Thomas.

[Matt Abeticola]

Thomas is listed as both, as both

[Dan Bernstein]

punt returner and kickoff returner. So that's, that's all it is, is just one outlets assessment and one update for you as to what we should begin to expect when this May rookie minicamp opens here. If there's deeper meaning, if you're. If you're able to find deeper meaning, that's on you.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

The big replacement. I, when I look at this, really, the fact Devin Bush stepping in for Tremaine Edmonds is. I keep looking at that one, I'm like, I think Tremaine Edmonds did more than you think he did. I really do. I continue to have some concerns about the quality of this defense, but it may just be you're going to win games 52 to 48 and will be immensely entertained.

[Matt Abeticola]

You know, I did want to share this one thing with you since we were talking about defensive ends here just a second ago and I said this to you yesterday.

[Dan Bernstein]

So Kaylis Campbell, Calais Campbell.

[Matt Abeticola]

Calais Campbell, sorry.

[Dan Bernstein]

Elias Campbell. Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

He is gonna turn 40 on September 1st. Glaze Campbell. He's entering his 19th season in the league. He just signed a one year deal with Baltimore. So he's going back to Baltimore. He was there for a couple years, 20 through 22. I think he made a Pro bowl one of those years. Maybe, maybe 2020. But I sent this to you yesterday. Kales Campbell was in the same draft class as these guys.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I saw some of the names. Well, yes, because I was trying to. I needed perspective to think about how long ago 2008 was and to think that, that Jason was three. Really kind of.

[Matt Abeticola]

That kind of nailed it for you. Okay. Yeah. And this is the draft class he was in with Bears running back Matt Forte.

[Dan Bernstein]

How long has he been retired? The great trivia question is, can you name the one other active player from this draft class?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes, I can.

[Dan Bernstein]

Actually, there's two. Now that I look at it, there's two technically listed as active.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right. Desean Jackson, Kevin o', Connell, also in this draft class.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. But not active.

[Matt Abeticola]

Correct. Matt Ryan. Okay. Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Matt Ryan was third.

[Matt Abeticola]

My guy. Frankenstein's monster, Joe Flacco.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's one of the actives.

[Matt Abeticola]

Jamal Charles, Chiefs running back Aqib Talib, Chris Johnson, running back Chris Long, number two, Nelson.

[Dan Bernstein]

And also, you know who drafted Chris Long? St. Louis.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, yeah, he was, he was a. Yeah. Draft by the rams. That's right.

[Dan Bernstein]

St. Louis Rams. Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

St. Louis Rams. Dwayne Brown, offensive tackle Jake Long, number one overall pick, Jonathan Stewart, Peyton Hillis, Matthew Slater, Gerard Mayo didn't last very long as a head coach. Josh Johnson.

[Dan Bernstein]

Josh Johnson is your other active.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, that's right. He's still. He's still, isn't he? Yeah, he's still.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was fifth. Fifth round, 160th overall. I believe Josh Johnson is still in the league.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, I think you're right. He was a backup somewhere last year. And then Darren McFadden and then Pierre Garcon. All in the same draft class as Calais Campbell.

[Dan Bernstein]

Absolutely incredible. And he's still, he's still good enough. Like he's still a valuable enough player.

[Matt Abeticola]

He started 17 games. He played 17 games last year. Had six and a half sacks at 39.

[Dan Bernstein]

Do you want to know the full Bears draft that year?

[Matt Abeticola]

This is 2008. Yes. What is it?

[Dan Bernstein]

This is, this was the Bears draft the year Calais Campbell who just signed a one year deal. This is your Bears draft.

[Matt Abeticola]

That was Matt Forte as well.

[Dan Bernstein]

Matt Forte was the second round pick.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

First round pick was Chris Williams, the tackle out of Vanderbilt with the bad back. Oh, third round pick also out of Vanderbilt, Earl Bennett.

[Matt Abeticola]

Vanderbilt wasn't that good at that time, was it?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. But Earl Bennett was turned into for a while a favored target of Jay Cutler. I remember Earl Bennett used to once a game he would by a safety just get absolutely, just, just erased. Also in the third round, Marcus Harrison, a defensive tackle. Okay. LSU safety Craig Stilts was the fourth round pick. The fifth round pick that we had a training camp award named after him. Zachary Bowman. And we're all. The training camp interceptions.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. And also in the fifth round was Michigan State tight end Kellen Davis. Ended up playing 125 NFL games. He had 53 receptions and 13 touchdowns in his career. And then it was Irvin Baldwin, Chester Adams, Joey Laroque or Larocque. Kirk Barton and Marcus. Marcus Monk.

[Matt Abeticola]

Irvin Baldwin. Baldwin. Irvin Baldwin.

[Dan Bernstein]

Irvin Baldwin, defensive end for Michigan State.

[Matt Abeticola]

Never heard of these guys. They were drafted by the Bears.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. Well, they had 1, 2, 3, 45 seventh round picks. They had to load up on that seventh round.

[Matt Abeticola]

Man, we were, God, we were right in our prime there.

[Dan Bernstein]

2008.

[Matt Abeticola]

I don't remember any of those names.

[Dan Bernstein]

I, I don't think we had any of them on the show.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, I'm not sure I could have identified them.

[Dan Bernstein]

Irvin Baldwin, Chester Adams, Joey Laroque, Kirk Barton and Marcus.

[Matt Abeticola]

I mean that's one of those things where guys are walking away from the field and I'm driving the gol start with the list in hand trying to figure out who they are by number and then if I, if I didn't recognize the name, I wasn't going to stop. Like, hey, Irvin, like a ride.

[Dan Bernstein]

Except that one year that Johnny Canoli brought his friend, remember that? Oh, do you remember?

[Matt Abeticola]

Of course I remember. That was, that was, that was a strategic executive producer decision.

[Dan Bernstein]

We had an. So our intern, Johnny Canole, who was the best and Peter Toronto is his name, right?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

And great, great guy, great guy. One year we call him Johnny Canola because he's Toronto of the Toronto bred empire. He's probably living on an island somewhere in the West Indies now, sitting on a Beach, earning 20%. So he brought a friend with him who happened to be a young and comely blonde haired woman who, Matty, you made the executive decision, said, hey, Johnny Canoli, go get us some guests and bring your, have your friend sit on the back of the golf cart, which is a really good call on your part. We had more guests that day, remember that?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh no, I remember we had a line of guests.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, because I was that idiot that would drive around the golf cart to try to get these guys to come into the RV to, you know, spend a few minutes with us. And so you know what, let's, let's try something different today.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's like switching from plastics to live shiners. Is what that, what that is like doing that, that, that's like you, you stop at the shop and you bring the live bait with you and one guest after another. And the difference that made that day, I'm thinking, you know, I'm not a smart man. I wonder, I wonder why all of these players are suddenly so excited to join us today on the Boars and Bernstein show. And hey man, whatever it took. If you work in university maintenance, Grainger considers you an MVP because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip off. And Grainger is your trusted partner, offering the products you need all in one place from H vac and plumbing supplies to lighting and more and all delivered with plenty of time left on the clock so your team always gets the win. Call 1-800-GRAINGER visit grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.

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[Matt Abeticola]

do this, but let me ask you because I said I was gonna not partake in this anymore. We have the first mock draft of 2027 out on ESPN from Jordan Reed. Do you want to know who the Bears. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. Yes, I do.

[Matt Abeticola]

No, no, we don't have to know. I was.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I do.

[Matt Abeticola]

We don't have to. I do. No, we don't have to. We don't have. It's fine. I know it's early. I mean, Jordan Reed put out his first mock draft of 2027. We don't have. We don't have to get into it, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

I've probably never heard of the person, whoever it is.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, well, then let's not do it then.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why not?

[Matt Abeticola]

Unless you're. Unless you're curious.

[Dan Bernstein]

Give me the Bears pick.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right. With the 16th pick, which I think

[Dan Bernstein]

is is 16, you're gonna have the last pick of the first round. That's your Super bowl champ. 16.

[Matt Abeticola]

Ahmad Moten, M O T E N defensive tackle out of Miami.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's not the issue. Why 16? They're gonna finish them to finish in the middle of the league. Yeah, the hell? I don't like this.

[Matt Abeticola]

So what do you feel about the. The selection of Ahmad Moten?

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm a gin it.

[Matt Abeticola]

I'm tackled Miami.

[Dan Bernstein]

I. I did the wrong pick. Everybody should be fired. I don't know.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know who he is or what he does.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right, we'll keep an eye on the 27 mock drafts as we go through.

[Dan Bernstein]

Please do that. Please do that. I Speaking of the draft, nobody was watching.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, it's not good. I watched Thursday night and then that was it. I didn't watch. And I every. I wasn't baseball. I was checking my phone. I had zero interest in turning on TV to watch, you know, Friday or Saturday at all.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, well, the reason Let me just bring this up because I'm not sure I agree with the logic here, but you tell me. Awful Announcing's Drew Lerner said that last week's NFL Draft averaged 6.6 million viewers during the entire three day run across ABC, ESPN, NFL Network, ESPN, Deportes, Disney Plus, Hulu, the ESPN app, NFL Plus, TikTok, YouTube, and X Twitter. All of those platforms. Okay.

[Matt Abeticola]

All combined for 6 million.

[Dan Bernstein]

All combined 6.6 million. The figure is down 12% year over year. Last year's average was 7.5 million. And this is the presumption Last year's coverage included the precipitous fall of star quarterback Shadour Sanders into day three, which kept viewership higher than normal throughout the Friday and Saturday broadcasts. Interesting. As with the first round data, the full draft viewership includes audiences that tuned in on platforms not measured by Nielsen, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, making any year to year comparisons difficult because platforms not measured by Nielsen added approximately 300,000 viewers to first round viewership numbers released by the NFL. On a linear only basis, the first round averaged 12.9 million, he said. Friday's coverage of the second and third round average 6.3. Saturday's late round conjured up 3.7, said a viewership decline was to be expected this year, but Even with the 12% overall decline, it was the third most watched NFL draft of all time on paper. So there's a lot of caveats in this, but we're starting who was watching it on paper. They're just Regardless of the technicalities around ratings measurements, the draft numbers are healthy, even if they're down a bit. I guess. I guess. But do you really think that Shador Sanders drama made that big difference?

[Matt Abeticola]

No, absolutely not.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't either.

[Matt Abeticola]

Absolutely not.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't either.

[Matt Abeticola]

No, there is, there is no way the even, even the, the most die hard football fan who's not a fan of the Cleveland Browns is not continuing to watch to see what happens with Shador Sanders.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I, I. Even though that was clearly the top story, the difference between that being a story and people actually saying, honey, you know, I'd love to go run errands right now or I'd love to go get. I can't. I have to stick by the television to see where Shador Sanders is drafted. I don't buy that people are gathering in bars for that.

[Matt Abeticola]

No, I agree. I agree with you there. That certainly was not a story that kept people watching. And I think the whole thing is terrible after the first round. That's all that's worth watching. And that's not even that, that entertaining or that good to begin with. And this one, we kind of knew how it was going to fall into place. And I think with Mendoza being the number one pick and we've known that for months, there wasn't a whole lot of drama to it.

[Dan Bernstein]

So.

[Matt Abeticola]

Speaking of Shador Sanders, though, we need to paddle his Heiney well, More so

[Dan Bernstein]

his brother, more so Shiloh Sanders because of what's going on with Shador Sanders. So let me back this up because we're already trying to figure out what's happening with the Cleveland Browns and their starting quarterback. So it's already becoming a thing.

[Matt Abeticola]

And it's also, this is our guy Todd.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's the thing, because it's Todd Monken and I'm just going to enjoy this. He doesn't want to talk about the quarterback. According to PFT says a report said that Deshaun Watson emerged from last week's minicamp as the favorite. You start over Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel, Week one. So Todd Monkin did his appearance on local radio after a haircut under the bridge by a troll and said his preference would be to have a starter in place when the team starts training camp. But he hasn't seen enough to determine that. He said, I'd love to have that. I'm not there yet, so I can't say that. We've been on the field three practices. What I've seen after three days, that gives us a 40,000 foot view of where we're at. Well, you're flying really high, man. If you're at 40,000ft, that's, that's, that's like you're trying to get away from, from, you know, bad weather or something up there. He said that can change once we get back on the field. There's only so many reps you get. You got to start to target towards who going to start opening day. It can still change. It can change even if someone's going to get two thirds of the reps and someone's getting one third of the reps because you're still going to play preseason games. All right, well, he's going to work through this publicly. That's fine.

[Matt Abeticola]

He knows who's the starter is.

[Dan Bernstein]

And there, there was A report from cleveland.com that says DeSean Watson came out of the minicamp as the favorite. Watson and Shador Sanders both got first teamwork, but Watson wound up with more reps. So that's all it was. It was more reps. And that's something you're reporting. The fact that he got more reps. He has a lot more experience than Sanders, Gabriel or rookie Taylor Green. And that appears to be carrying a lot of weight for the Browns. Okay. New coach maybe going with the guy who has experience regardless of what, who's popular where. Now meanwhile, Shiloh Sanders, who is shadows brother. Shiloh Sanders was a, he was in Buccaneers camp and I think out of football now. Okay. He got mad at this [e-mail] by Mary Kay Cabot and Shiloh Sanders tweeted, go make a sandwich, Mary. Or is this an Instagram Instagram comment where she said, I think they should declare Watson QB1 ASAP. Let the first team offense start to cook. There's no time to waste. Shiloh Sanders. Go make a sandwich, Mary. Oh, Shiloh. Mary Kay Cabot is an OG.

[Matt Abeticola]

She started covering the Browns in 1988.

[Dan Bernstein]

Mary Kay Cabot is not to be messed with. You're talking about when it comes to a beat reporter in the NFL. Not just, maybe the top include one of the all time most trusted football voices in a rabid football city, but in the entire league. Mary Kay Cabot is on the Pro Football hall of Fame committee. She also was awarded the Bill Nunn Memorial Award as a distinguished contributor to pro football and pro football coverage that's given out by the Professional Football Writers of America. And you're telling Mary Kay Cabot, go make a sandwich. Come on, man. Come on, man. Like, that's really disappointing. That is really disappointing. Even if, if you disagree and just say this is, this is your opinion. I disagree with your opinion. But to, to level that insult at somebody as respected and distinguished and talented as, as Mary Kay Cabot, that's just stupid.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Stupid and wrong.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. And it's not like her take was something controversial.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Matt Abeticola]

Name Watson and get, get the offense cooking. Get this new head coach rolling. Get it, get it started as soon as possible. Not a, not a terrible take. I mean, I, I don't, I don't, I wouldn't want any of those guys that you named as my starting quarterback for my football team. But if you're going to pick one, yeah, I would. It makes sense. Go with the guy with the most experience and maybe Shador Sanders can learn something. Fill in when Watson goes awry or gets hurt. But to go tell her to go make a sandwich because she's a woman.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. And apparently he doubled down that he went on Twitch and he said he takes issue with how she inserts opinion into her reporting and feels she has something against his brother. Well, first off, I'm Shadour how she

[Matt Abeticola]

inserts opinion in her reporting.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's her, it's her. It's her job to also have an opinion.

[Matt Abeticola]

Sanders throws footballs during a football game. I mean I don't, I don't, I

[Dan Bernstein]

don't like the way Shiloh Sanders tried to play professional football and failed. But that's neither here nor there. It's the it I would tell him if I'm Shador, like, hey man, I stay out of my business. Shador Sanders. And that's the other thing should they've got a relationship. This is the beat reporter. She's in the locker room every day, right? Every single day she's there and she's been there since 88 said 40 years and she's still there doing that work and you're rounds dumb. Yeah. Dumb enough to say something like this.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. That's pretty stupid.

[Dan Bernstein]

Come on man. That's too bad. That's really dumb. And it doesn't make me want to root for Shador even though Shador didn't say it. And I certainly don't want to root for Deshaun Watson.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, yeah, I mean the only reason that we're watching the Browns is for Todd Monkin. Yes, that's our, that's our guy. Hey, there were a few players that were they, they the team. Their teams declined their fifth year option. Doesn't mean that they, they can't stay or won't stay with their particular teams. But I wanted to point a couple out. Broderick Jones, offensive tackle for the Steelers, his fifth year option declined. Tyree Wilson, defensive end from the Saints, his option was declined. And The Bengals declined fifth year option on. Miles Murphy, 24 year old defensive end. And I bring this up only because reading this story, the director of player personnel who is now currently serving as the de facto general manager for the Bengals, you familiar with with who that is? It is a gentleman by the name of Duke Tobin.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh yeah, yeah, that's Bill's son. Right?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes, it is. I did not know his son was the director of player personnel for the Bengals. Of course. Bill Tobin, who was the director of player personnel for the Bears 87 to 92, his uncle Duke's uncle Vince, Bill's

[Dan Bernstein]

brother, defensive coordinator after Buddy Ryan. Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

Did not know that. The family continued on with Duke Tobin serving as the director of player personnel and now apparently the de facto general manager. Okay, but a few names there to keep an eye on to see what what happens with some guys, some younger guys at some interesting positions. Miles Murphy in particular, a 24 year old defensive end. I, I think they'll end up stay he'll end up staying with Cincinnati. But again, another option of names as we talk about depth chart and availability and players at the defensive tackle, offensive tackle, defensive end, spot in the NFL.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Matt Abeticola]

Speaking of Giordano's, we're actually going there tomorrow night for dinner for Jackson's birthday weekend.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was his choice.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. Tonight he selected Batayo, a little Italian restaurant here in town. He likes. He likes their pasta, their homemade pasta. And then tomorrow, wanted pizza. And we're gonna head up to the Giordano's in Gurney for pizza. It's me and the boys.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, what do you decide? Do you order multiple pizzas or do you. Everybody can decide on the. On the one order.

[Matt Abeticola]

We'll do we. If it's just the three of us. We generally do two because he eats. Jackie just eats cheese. And then I've got Hank on my favorite combo of pepperoni, green pepper, onion, pepperoni, green pepper.

[Dan Bernstein]

No sausage.

[Matt Abeticola]

Really? He loves that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. So.

[Matt Abeticola]

So he'll do that with me as well.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Dan Bernstein]

I'm getting hungry. And we always do this on forward progress because it's the last one we record and it's always right around lunchtime and it always makes me hungry.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, dude, that Italian sub I had yesterday from.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, the big. Oh.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh my God. It was so good. Why? It was. It was just. Well, the meat was great, but it was just. I mean, you have the homemade bread, so if you don't know hu. And they're out of. Out of Evanston they have like a satellite location in downtown Libertyville. It's recognized as one of the best bread bakeries in the country. And so I didn't. I didn't realize that. And then we started getting scones and sandwiches which sell out in like a half hour there. But yeah, it had. What was on there, Prosciutto and it had pepperoni and salami and smoked provolone and then jardiner. It was. It was great. It was a great sandwich. I was gonna save you a bite, but I. I didn't. I was going to.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then I ate it.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. Then I just decided to finish it. I'm really hungry now, though. Well, I'm hungry now, but I think I'm gonna try to wait till dinner though, when we're gonna go to Patayo. But I don't know if I can wait. That's a long time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, you'll be rewarded for it. When in doubt. Wait. I always, I always get mad at myself. I. I always say, you know, I should have waited every time. So, yeah, save up delayed gratification and then everything is just going to taste that much better.

[Matt Abeticola]

Did you see the story of the wide receiver that is trying to make a comeback in the NFL and actually has a tryout at Green Bay rookie minicamp even though he's not a rookie?

[Dan Bernstein]

Is it a former Bear?

[Matt Abeticola]

It is a former Bear.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is it a Ryan Poll's acquisition that he would probably, if he had to pick one to erase from the ledger of his Bears transactions, he would choose to do so?

[Matt Abeticola]

I would say that this would probably top that list. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

That would be trading a high second round pick for Chase Claypool.

[Matt Abeticola]

Correct. He is attending Green Bay Packers Mickey. Mickey rookie minicamp. Not Mickey rookie camp.

[Dan Bernstein]

Mickey Rooney camp.

[Matt Abeticola]

That actually, that actually fits for Chase Claypool. He should go to the Mickey Rooney camp instead of rookie Minnie camp.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. I never thought of that before.

[Matt Abeticola]

Mickey. I'm gonna write it down.

[Dan Bernstein]

I like that.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's our football expert.

[Matt Abeticola]

Mickey Rooney is going to the Mickey Rooney camp in his attempt to make it back to the NFL. I would give him one bit of advice, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't be a penis.

[Matt Abeticola]

Try. That's what I would say. Try.

[Dan Bernstein]

Try. Actually physically try and put some effort into what you.

[Matt Abeticola]

What you do. That probably would go a long way. Is actually trying.

[Dan Bernstein]

See, that's why you're the coach, right?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's a try. And don't be a dick. Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

Both those go hand in hand.

[Dan Bernstein]

I will say this, that when that man walks on the field if he's in shape, he, He. He cuts a figure.

[Matt Abeticola]

He looks that part.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, he looks like a God.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's unbelievably gifted as far as the. Just how he looks in pads.

[Matt Abeticola]

So I hope it works out for him. I'd love to see him in a Packers uniform. Half running routes against the Bears would be.

[Dan Bernstein]

Are you interested today?

[Matt Abeticola]

I don't know. Yeah, not really.

[Dan Bernstein]

We'll see.

[Matt Abeticola]

We'll see what. What Mickey had to say about it

[Dan Bernstein]

when he attends Mickey Rooney camp.

[Matt Abeticola]

He's got nothing to do with football though. But he's a star.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's fantastic. Well, I guess that's it. And that's really all you need. Damn it. I. I don't know what more is going to get you ready for the weekend when you're talking Bears and NFL than.

[Matt Abeticola]

What are you doing this weekend?

[Dan Bernstein]

It's right here. What am I doing this weekend? I.

[Matt Abeticola]

Fishing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I mean if. Well, today I'm gonna fish and then tomorrow helmet I'm going to take. I'm going to go to Walmart and deal with my fishing nets and return what I can return and get refunded. What I can get refunded and figure this all out.

[Matt Abeticola]

You're gonna go buy a real one this time?

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm not sure yet because. But I am. I'm gonna end up going to. Probably from there. I'm gonna go to. I'll check park bait. I will go to Fish Tech up on Dempster and then I'll go to Dick's Sporting Goods to see. But I'm gonna. I need to actually find something and I can't just. I'm not. I'm done ordering things. I got to go and look and see.

[Matt Abeticola]

Don't be cheap.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know, I know. I got it. Trust me. So I'm going to do that. What else am I going to do? I'm going to see if I can exchange my new smoke detector because this one needs. It needs to be rewired and I can't do the rewiring myself. So I need to find one that maybe has the right plugin and.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, I would suggest not rewiring the smoke detector.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, it's got an adapter, but I just need to reconnect the. But they're different colored wires.

[Matt Abeticola]

Right? I would just. I would suggest getting one where you can just plug it right in. Not have to worry about any kind of rewiring. Whatever. We decided electrical work is not for you.

[Dan Bernstein]

I've got a guy. We can have Kurt come Over and do it for me. Because he just, you know, I text him and he comes over and he does it. But if I can do one that I can plug in myself, I'll do it and I'll save the 50 bucks or whatever it is. Okay?

[Matt Abeticola]

Again, don't be cheap. This is about the safety of your home and family.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm folding my laundry.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay?

[Dan Bernstein]

I've got two loads of laundry I have to fold. I'm behind.

[Matt Abeticola]

So you wash laundry and then just

[Dan Bernstein]

let it sit, dry, clean without folding it? Yeah. What's. Ugh. It's clean.

[Matt Abeticola]

That drives me insane. You finish it, you fold it immediately put it away.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I can't. No, no, it has to.

[Matt Abeticola]

Has to.

[Dan Bernstein]

It has to age.

[Matt Abeticola]

It doesn't. No, just don't be lazy. Just do it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Finish. No, because I felt I did it, and then it was clean, and it sits in the laundry basket at the foot of my bed.

[Matt Abeticola]

Man, that drives me nuts. So lazy.

[Dan Bernstein]

You want to come over and fold it?

[Matt Abeticola]

No, I'm just saying, when you do it, finish the process, man. Don't let it sit and hang for a couple days. Even if I pull a load of laundry out of the dryer at, like, midnight, I'm still folding and putting it away.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no, no. Yes. No, I know that's. That's pathological that you're lazy.

[Matt Abeticola]

Then call me pathological.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but also, I fold my. I fold my wife's laundry, too. Okay, I bet you don't do that.

[Matt Abeticola]

She won't let me do her laundry.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, okay. Well, I just.

[Matt Abeticola]

I mean, I would. I would.

[Dan Bernstein]

She does her own. She just doesn't let me not fold it.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, no, she doesn't let me do it. I do it while I'm really good at doing laundry. It's not, like, about my skill or ability. She just doesn't think I should do her laundry, so.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, well, I'm just. That's. You asked about what my weekend was, and then I'm going to tell myself I'm probably not going to fish because my feet. My knees hurt from walking around. And then.

[Matt Abeticola]

But what about. What about this, though? You have all this extra time. There's no work for the weekend.

[Dan Bernstein]

Everybody's working for the weekend.

[Matt Abeticola]

And you have to designate time of your weekend. Your freedom. Your free time is designated because you have to plan to fold laundry because you're too lazy to do it in

[Dan Bernstein]

the process because it's perfect while watching a cub game or while watching golf where it's just, you know, it's an idle. And, you know, I've learned better in my old age. I've learned better to ritualize mundane tasks.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, let me ask you a question then. This is a good opportunity for this. I've been wanting to ask you this question. String cheese. Like individually wrapped string cheese?

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

How do you eat string cheese?

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. I take the entire string cheese rod out of the plastic wrapping.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, well, that's a good start. Thanks for sharing that.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then. And then I make the smallest possible peeled strings, and I. It takes me forever to eat it, and by the time I'm done, it's warm just because of the temperature of my hand.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, but you. You eat it because it's called the string cheese. You eat it in strings.

[Dan Bernstein]

Slowly.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's made to be eaten in. Sir. I know. It's just low moisture. Part skim mozzarella. I know that, and I know it's no different than the shredded stuff in the bag, but I still eat it the way it was meant to be eaten.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay. I am the only one in this house that eats string cheese the right way.

[Dan Bernstein]

You just take bites out of it.

[Matt Abeticola]

No, I eat it in strings. The rest of the house takes bites out of it.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, that's wrong.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, thank you. I knew. I knew that I could count on you.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, that's. It's string cheese.

[Matt Abeticola]

That.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right.

[Matt Abeticola]

It's string cheese.

[Dan Bernstein]

The tactile nature of it is part

[Matt Abeticola]

of the fun of having a string cheese.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's why you have a string cheese, is to. Otherwise, to see how thin you can make it. And then even you get like the little wispy ones that sort of disappear or fall in your pants or whatever it might be.

[Matt Abeticola]

Like an hour later, you look down and there's one attached chest.

[Dan Bernstein]

If there isn't. If there isn't a hair of cheese. Cheese, you're not doing it right.

[Matt Abeticola]

Thank you. So then my argument is stop buying string cheese and buy. Buy cheese sticks. If you don't want to pull it in the strings, then buy cheese sticks.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, I'm with you on that. Or just buy a block of mozzarella and carve at it. Yeah. Or just take bites out of it. That's the, The. The string cheese is designed to be enjoyed and eaten in that way. And it also, that's why it's called string cheese. And you also eat it so slower. And that allows your body to. To understand, you know, you're. You're. You're not as hungry when you eat it slower. It's better for you that way now.

[Matt Abeticola]

I think the fact that you eat it that slow where it's warm is probably. I think you've gone too far to the other end of it. But, you know, I probably rip it off and I don't know, I. Maybe I might get six strings out of it. So they're like. But I still eat it the right way though.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know what? I have to get to that. You turned me on to that. I can't. I just forget to buy it because it's not something I kind of run into. But every time I have it, I'm glad I have.

[Matt Abeticola]

I turned you onto this.

[Dan Bernstein]

The canned lupini.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, yes, the jar. Jar.

[Dan Bernstein]

The jar. Yeah, the jar of the cento lupini beans. Those are so much fun because squeezing the cotyledons out of the covering is so satisfying. It's almost like bubble wrap.

[Matt Abeticola]

If you do a whole jar of that at one time and you get into a bowl and a little bit of olive oil and salt and pepper and you know what they're really, really good with. But I don't, I don't drink this anymore. Is an ice cold beer.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, it's so good. Yeah, but.

[Dan Bernstein]

And they're inexpensive. You can get a huge can for like five by your jar for five bucks. Yeah, they're really good for you. They're also really good for you. They're full of protein, they're full of fiber. And what I haven't done yet is do one of my. I do a sauteed like blackened chickpea.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, sure, that's good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Where you'll dry off the chickpea. You gotta be super dry. So rinse them really well and dry them. And then you can make a rub with whatever you want. Like I use cumin and chili powder and like good Hungarian paprika. You can use cayenne salt, black pepper. And then get a hot pan with a drizzle of olive oil and char them. I want to do powder too. And I want to do that with the lupini beans. I think that would be an awesome snack.

[Matt Abeticola]

That'd be good. Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah. If you're. So if you're doing like a good charcuterie board, it's. The lupini beans are a nice addition to it. I like the.

[Dan Bernstein]

In. In aesthetically, if you also buy marcona almonds, they're similar in shape and color.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, they look the same.

[Dan Bernstein]

They look the same. So it's kind of cool where you have like the marcona almonds over here, and then you can have your lupini beans over here. And you're just like, oh, no.

[Matt Abeticola]

You could actually do a lupini bean spread, too, on a nice crostini. A little food processor, you know, some seasoning, a little. Little olive oil. It's good stuff.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, I'm gonna go eat.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right, let's go eat.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's go.

[Matt Abeticola]

I'm gonna be in a bag of

[Dan Bernstein]

pork rinds, I think. I think that's all I need because I'm having a big dinner night. We're going out for Italian, too.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, yeah. Enjoy that. Enjoy that. So, yeah, this is. Yeah, this is. Yeah, this is three one two Sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

Forward Progress is stopped.

[Matt Abeticola]

Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 312 Sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

A support group for barely functioning adults. It's the Dave and Mahoney Show. You know, I dated a phone sex operator. Did she know that you.

[Matt Abeticola]

They would have to go into, like,

[Dan Bernstein]

a call center cubicles and stuff like that. Imagine having phone sex with some lonely guy while you're sitting in a cubicle. Do you think that it would make you more competitive?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, I got one.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's done. Oh, my gosh. Grab the Dave and Mahoney podcast now on Apple Podcasts on Spotify and@david mahoney.com.