Dianna Russini Report: What the NYT just Revealed

Summary

Forward Progress - A Chicago Bears Podcast

Episode: Dianna Russini Report: What the NYT just Revealed
Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Matt Abbatacola
Date: June 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the explosive New York Times exposé on football reporter Dianna Russini—a former star at The Athletic and ESPN—whose insider access and relationships with NFL coaches reportedly crossed ethical lines. Dan Bernstein and Matt Abbatacola scrutinize the reporting, reaction, and wider implications for the NFL, sports journalism, and the business of breaking news. The show also covers updates on the Bears’ stadium situation, depth chart tweaks, and signature Forward Progress banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. The Dianna Russini NYT Exposé & Media Ethics

Timestamps: 01:46 – 23:54

• Salary Shock:

  • The New York Times reports Dianna Russini was paid almost $800,000/year by The Athletic, with negotiations for a new contract possibly crossing the $1 million mark.
    • “That is a big bag to drop.” (Dan Bernstein, 02:10)
    • “800 grand with, I'm sure, a raise ... a million dollar a year reporter.” (Dan & Co-host, 12:16–12:29)

• Texting & Driving Incident:

  • Bernstein recounts a new detail: Russini was pulled over while texting and driving with her kids, tried to use her NFL coach connections to get out of a ticket.
    • Russini FaceTimed an NFL head coach from the car; the coach lobbied the officer to let her go.
    • “She's bribing a police officer with access. This is a bribe.” (Dan Bernstein, 05:34)
    • “If he would do something like that, what else is he willing to do?” (Co-host, 06:04)

• Off-the-Record Snafu:

  • Russini asked the NYT reporter not to quote her texts—after already sending them.
    • Bernstein and co-host lambaste her for misunderstanding journalist protocol.
    • “Everything is on the record unless specified beforehand... Diana, you better know that's not how it works.” (Dan Bernstein, 09:30)

• The Hypocrisy & Selective Outrage Game:

  • NYT is exposed for their own mixed standards: sitting on political scandals for book deals while blasting Russini for NFL insider dealings.
    • “Where are the New York Times priorities in this?... The hypocrisy there.” (Dan, 21:19)
  • NFL leadership also blasted for ignoring the story’s implications.
    • “Selective outrage on the part of the NFL, selective outrage on the part of fans, podcasters, journalists... And we're part of it, too.” (Dan, 21:39)

• Inside Access & Relationships:

  • Reflection on the dangers of blurred lines between reporter-source relationships and organizational enabling.
    • “If they're doing it here in their personal lives, how did it impact NFL business? And why does the NFL refuse to look at it?” (Co-host, 07:46)
    • “She had an organization lie on her behalf. The New York Times lied.” (Dan, 14:48)

Memorable Quotes:

• “All that. Really? You're gonna throw all that away?... Just because you're allegedly humping a coach.” (Dan Bernstein, 11:55)
• “That's quite the arrogance... I'm gonna use this to get where I want to be, what I want to do next.” (Co-host, 15:51)
• “She trumpeted her skills as a reporter... ‘I'm a witch,’ she said. Wow.” (Dan, 18:37)

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2. Chicago Bears Stadium Snafu & Organization Dysfunction

Timestamps: 24:00 – 28:24

• Stadium Legislation Dead End:
  • Discussion on failed Bears legislative push—team’s lack of political strategy and poor internal communication highlighted.
    • "No one knows who's speaking officially for the Bears right now... Whoever's talking to the governor didn't have information." (Dan, 25:04)
    • "He's [McCaskey] handed over so much power to Kevin Warren... who’s a con artist." (Co-host, 27:09–27:20)
  • Frustration with team leadership failing to engage in necessary lobbying and process.

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3. Bears Depth Chart News: Return Specialist Shakeup

Timestamps: 29:23 – 31:08

• Xavion Thomas Named in Return Role:
  • Xavion Thomas newly listed as both punt and kick returner, replacing Khalif Raymond.
    • “That tells me one of two things... The explosiveness of Thomas is worth some inexperience... Or... Khalif Raymond’s role [offensively] has become more important.” (Dan, 30:02)
  • Analysis: Could mean Raymond will play more offense, less exposure on special teams.

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4. NFL Top 100 & Tight End University Banter

Timestamps: 31:08 – 36:16

• Top 100 List Notes:
  • NFL.com’s #98: Bryce Young (Carolina QB). #97: Ernest Jones (Seattle LB).
    • “They paid him more than Dianna Russini money.” (Co-host, 38:43)
• Tight End University:
  • Observations about star tight ends’ annual retreat, noting the blurring of “University” and social club.
    • “It’s a club. It’s more like an elk’s lodge.” (Dan, 33:29)
  • Taylor Swift’s appearance noted as a fun cultural crossover.

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5. Bears Travel, Personal Stories & Signature Banter

Timestamps: 36:16 – Episode End

• Planning Future Shows & Celebrations:
  • Talk of live shows at Tight End U, moose hunts in Maine, anniversary plans.
• Anecdotes from the Past:
  • Colorful stories of wild nights, bar crawls, and life on the Chicago beat.
• Birthday Traditions:
  • Dan shares his birthday wishes: a night of darts and a Dairy Queen Peanut Buster Parfait.
    • “The only mandatory box to check for me is...Peanut Buster Parfait.” (Dan, 39:44)
• Lighthearted Family Talk:
  • Birthday meal debates; playful ribbing of family habits.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “That is a big bag to drop.” – Dan Bernstein, 02:10
• “She's bribing a police officer with access. This is a bribe.” – Dan Bernstein, 05:34
• “Everything is on the record unless specified beforehand.” – Dan Bernstein, 09:30
• “Where are the New York Times priorities in this?... The hypocrisy there.” – Dan Bernstein, 21:19
• “Selective outrage... And we’re part of it, too.” – Dan Bernstein, 21:39
• “If they're doing it here in their personal lives, how did it impact NFL business? And why does the NFL refuse to look at it?” – Co-host, 07:46
• “The only mandatory box to check for me is I do a peanut buster parfait on my birthday.” – Dan Bernstein, 39:44

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Takeaways

• The Russini exposé is a case study in modern sports journalism’s ethical gray areas, enabled by institutional hypocrisy across the NFL and media.
• The Bears’ ongoing stadium saga highlights organizational dysfunction and poor communications, underlining wider issues within team leadership.
• Bears depth chart changes may be signaling a shift toward youth and preservation of veteran assets.
• Enduring podcast camaraderie and cultural commentary remain hallmarks of Forward Progress.

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Summary:
Dan and Matt deliver unflinching analysis and signature wit in dissecting the Russini-NYT story and what it says about the NFL, media, and human nature. For fans seeking more than surface-level takes—and anyone invested in the drama at the intersection of sports, power, and reputation—this is a must-listen episode.

Transcript

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[Dan Bernstein]

sports it's forward progress on 312 sports news about the Bears and the NFL as everything going on. So much NFL news, just so many things really. The big story today is our old friend Diana Rossini is the subject of a big piece in her former employer's paper, the New York Times, which owns the Athletic. So I have to say I'm already skeptical. I'm dubious when an already dubious publication is the one doing the writing here. However, the details man. The focus first of all is on the money. The size of the bag that she decided to drop. According to this story, the Athletic paid her an annual salary of close to $800,000. One of the highest paid journal journalists at the Times Company had been promoted as a face of the sports publication. At the time the story broke, the Athletic was in discussions with her about renewing her contract, which was set to expire at the end of June. That is a big bag to drop.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Wow.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then we had I think we finally have something that tops your Jim Rose story for the do you know who I am? Because your your story Famously, you were. Is it Herman Sporting Goods?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yep. Yep. So it was Orland Park Mall, and I was running the ski shop, and there was a long line of people dropping their equipment off to get serviced. And he walked to the front of the line, to which I told him, go to the back of the line. And then he said, well, do you know who I am? And I said, yeah, you're Jim Rose from tv.

[Dan Bernstein]

But back of the line I love. I'll never get enough of that story. But I think this. This May top was January, and Ms. Rossini, the star NFL reporter for the Athletic, had been pulled over by a police officer while texting and driving with her two young sons. It was the second time in a month that the police had stopped her. On this occasion, she tried to fend off a ticket by telling the officer that the coach of the Buffalo Bills had been fired, and she was trying to break news. The officer was unmoved, telling her he was a fan of a different team. That's when she made him an offer. Maybe she could connect him right then and there to his team's favorite coach. You want to talk to the coach, you should talk to the coach. She said she told the officer as she recounted the incident a couple of weeks later. I FaceTime the head coach. Head coaches in his office. He said, what's up? I go, just got pulled over. I want you to meet my friend, Officer Joe. The coach helped her get out of the ticket by telling the officer, you should let her go. She's a good citizen. So she was on a podcast called Stu Gotts and Company, and it's all it says here is. The podcast host howled with laughter. I wish I had that kind of access. See, that's the. That's the wrong conclusion here. The one is, if you got young kids in the car, you shouldn't be texting and driving.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, even without kids in the car.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but if it's. Yeah, it's true, because you could hurt somebody else who's driving. Yeah, but it's more egregious. There's your own children, and you're texting and driving, and she's bribing a police officer with access. This is a bribe. Ha ha ha. I wish I had that kind of access. That. That is. That is a. And I don't. I don't know who this guy is, but that is completely missing the point.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, yeah, no, for sure. For sure missing the point. Yeah. Stu Gotts was a. Isn't he a famous. I don't know if I Should be famous. Oh, yeah. I mean, well, well known. I thought he was like a sidekick to a host. Maybe not. Maybe I don't. Maybe I, I'm thinking the wrong guy, but I think that's a. That's a pretty well known name. But anyway, I know he. That they're close, though. He. I know he's talked about her before. I've seen it online. Yeah. I mean, on a scale of, like, egregious to, like, harmless, yeah, this is. This is. It's bribery. But it also shows the connection, the relationship, the depth that's there. And if he would do something like that, what else is he willing to do? That's why Dan. It is. The whole thing bothers me why the NFL refuses to look at it. I mean, this impacted. This has potential to impact the business of the NFL and they just don't.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, that's part of being an insider, is having access, but using that to try, oh, who's your favorite team? I can get the coach on here so you can let me out of a ticket.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right. That's the whole point. So if they're willing to do this, what else would they do that would impact the business of the NFL?

[Dan Bernstein]

Pretty high level.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I get having an insider relationship that. I understand how that works. And I had, you know, in the year that I was with the Cubs, I had different relationships with different members of the Cubs organization. Some hated me and some were very open about things.

[Dan Bernstein]

Officer, do you want to talk to Mike Quaddy? Right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

That's how it goes. No, he arrested me, tased me, then arrested me, said, no, thank you.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, no, I'm gonna keep tasing you until you take that guy's contact off your phone.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Dragged me out the car window. Yeah. So I get how it works, but if they're, if they're doing it here in their personal lives, how did it impact NFL business? And why does the NFL refuse to look at it?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. Now, this is the stuff that I find hilarious. And this, this is. We're going to play. Is this irony? And I'm going to tell you the answer is yes, because this, this is not to be believed. Yeah. In early May, after the Times began reporting this article, Ms. Rossini responded to a reporter's request for an interview via text message. She cited the intense scrutiny and personal attacks she had faced, saying, this has had a significant impact on my life, both professionally and personally. At the end of the message, referring to herself as A former journalist, Ms. Rossini asked the reporter not to quote from the text. So already, if you know the way the business works, you're already shaking your head and rolling your eyes. The interaction demonstrated a different approach to journalism from the way it is conducted in traditional newsrooms. That paragraph is doing a lot of work. I mean, really, that's the way you write it. It demonstrates a different approach than the way it's conducted in traditional newsrooms. When the WHEN reporter told her that this article would include portions of her text message because no agreement had been made for them to engage in an off the record correspondence, Ms. Rossini objected.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

And then, I object.

[Dan Bernstein]

I object strenuously.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I strenuously object.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then emailed Mr. Perpich, the publisher of the Athletic. I'm running a Greyhawk 10 on you. I'm calling Mr. Perpich, the publisher of the Athletic as well as two senior editors, to reiterate her wish that the comments not be included. Diana, you better know that's not how it works. Everything is on the record unless specified beforehand and agreed to by both parties that it is something other than on the record.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Whether it's, I mean, you've experienced that. I mean, I've experienced. Right. I've had people yell at me, I

[Dan Bernstein]

may say, you, I didn't know it said, well, it's. I, you know what I do. And unless you choose and I, and I respond, unless you say this is on background or this is off the record and it's agreed to, everything is on the record. Right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

And you say, you establish that from the get go. That's just, I mean, everyone knows that. Even people not in journalism know this.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought that was the case.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

People know this. And you say, hey, hey, hey, I got a few questions for you. And you know, listen, this is all off the record, just for background information,

[Dan Bernstein]

or you don't even have to say that. Or you say, but there are times

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

that you do that, though. You say, hey, listen, off the record, tell me about XYZ on background.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just, I'm not going to quote you. I'm not going to quote you. I'm not going to use your name. But. And I'm not going to use anything from this. Just, just so I know, so I can be informed.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right? And then, but we've had other instances where people will come to us or we have a conversation, they say, hey, listen, off the record, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's how it goes.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then, you know that. Or sometimes you want it on the record and you'll say, hey, I got a few questions. And so I'm not, I'm not talking to you. I'm not answering. I have no desire to talk to you about any of this stuff. Okay, well, how about off the record or how about on background? And that, that gives you a place to go where you can get the information, not necessarily use the information. And that's why people will say, or don't put my name on it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, but I love, at the end of the text, she's like, oh, by the way, don't use any of this.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oops. What?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

She.

[Dan Bernstein]

And she's, she's a million dollar a year journal.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, just. I can't believe you. All that. Just, just because you're allegedly humping a coach. It was all that. Really? You're gonna throw all that away?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah.

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[Dan Bernstein]

You had the world by the, by the nuts.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

800 grand with, I'm sure, a raise.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, and the next deal. Yes, she was negotiating the next deal. That was the previous deal. This is a million dollar a year reporter.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

This would have been. Oh yeah. Well over a million.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hell yeah. Would have, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

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[Dan Bernstein]

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[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. And I. I love. I mean, some more of the details from this story, like the Sedona photos.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, the lying about them.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Lying about it. And not only, but Ginsburg getting, you know, support from people above him to go out and make the statement before he had all the information, before he saw all the photos. I mean, we said at the time,

[Dan Bernstein]

what are you doing?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

What are you doing, dude?

[Dan Bernstein]

Why don't you find out what actually happened before you go to bat for somebody that's gonna make you look stupid, right?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

They.

[Dan Bernstein]

They. She had an organization lie on her behalf. The New York Times lied. And that's why for this to be in the New York Times now when I say, is this irony, A journalist not understanding the way off the record works and trying after the fact to get her own quotes removed?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

And then the.

[Dan Bernstein]

The paper of record that was in charge of all of this is now doing some kind of expose about all the stuff that they did wrong, and we're supposed to trust it. I mean, the levels of this are unbelievable.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, it's really comical.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so we look, we keep waiting for her to just tell everything about everything. Within the next couple days, she might just be like, fuck it. Yeah, maybe there's naked pictures every coach. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I mean, I.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know, Andy Reid.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

No, no, no, no. Well, there'd be a hoagie properly placed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Naked hoagie.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. To. To cover up things I liked in there where she talked about taking advantage of the opportunity when the photos came out and resigning to kind of reimagine her career. Like, she. I mean, how the arrogance there. The arrogance that, hey, this is blowing up in your face right now. But, oh, no, it's okay. I'm. I'm gonna use this to get where I want to be, what I want to do next. Like that. That's quite the arrogance.

[Dan Bernstein]

There's a lot of enabling going on. It's. I mean, it just Every. Every little detail in here about the. How bulletproof she seemed to think she

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

was right for sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's like, I don't have to deal with all these things or I don't have to abide by them. I get a Ticket. I can just put a coach on the phone and people will laugh about it. I wish I had that kind of access.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, we also learned, too, that the casino night photos, there were other members of the Titan staff there as well, and that they were living pretty openly. I think what was the word that was used was they were pretty flagrant with the approach they took publicly to their relationship

[Dan Bernstein]

with the. The way they were with each other was not. They didn't really hide much, I guess.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. And even that story with the police officer, like, you're. You're FaceTiming, and it's just, hey, what's up? Not a. Oh, hey, Diana.

[Dan Bernstein]

What's.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

What. What. What can I do for you? Or what are you calling for? Or why are you FaceTiming me? That was a very normal approach in their communication, obviously.

[Dan Bernstein]

Do you remember the story about Julio Jones?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

About the trade. And we're talking about, oh, gee, I wonder how she found out about that trade. And what is. What is. What information behind the scenes is she finding out that could change things when it becomes public, et cetera. This is from the article. She trumpeted her skills as a reporter. On one occasion, she suggested she had a sixth sense for news. In June of 2021, after breaking the story that the Atlanta Falcons had traded the wide receiver Julio Jones to the Tennessee Titans, she went on television and told a story about receiving a sign while gambling at a bachelorette party in Atlantic City. I'm at the roulette table on Saturday night around 11pm she said on Get Up, ESPN's weekday morning show. And I hit on black 11. Aware that Mr. Jones wore number 11 for Atlanta, she recalled telling someone else, that's Julio. Something's up. She called her sources and confirmed her hunch. I'm a witch, she said. Wow. No, it's. It's not a hunch that. You got that from the head coach of the Tennessee Titans.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right. That was trading for that guy.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, that had happened.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

The roulette table that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's go.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. Yep.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. Again, I think that just shows that level of entitlement and arrogance.

[Dan Bernstein]

Mm.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Which is just. I mean, nurtured by years and years of protection and.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

That's just. It's just. It's wild, man. And yet again, the NFL just doesn't care to look at it. They just don't care. But yet they can send Brendan Sorsby a lengthy letter that basically says, go off and yourself, too, on the way out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good point.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

And talks to him about accountability when they have no desire to hold themselves accountable or people within their organization accountable for their behavior, even though it may have impacted the business of the NFL. They just don't care.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let me bring up something else regarding the New York Times when we're pointing out the hypocrisy of the NFL. Yeah. And I like the fact that several people have recognized this, that as we're sorting through details of the book that Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan have put out about the. All the craziness that has gone on in this. In this White House that these people were working for, the New York Times had all this information but didn't report it, sat on it when it would be nice to do their job, to inform the voters, the people, the public about all of this salacious information, all this shocking news, but they sat on it so they could put it in their own book. And if the New York Times is going crazy over Diana Rossini allegedly sleeping with a coach or coaches and finding out all this getting information like that's causing them to change the DEFCON levels and call their lawyers, and you're not ten times more worried about your own reporters holding on to selfishly hoarding information about elected officials for a book.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

For a book for personal gain.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like where. Where are the New York Times priorities in this? Yeah, like that. The hypocrisy there. I brought that up to start. This is the hypocrisy there. That of the NFL, the. That of everybody involved. I mean, I think it's great. Finding out the details is great. Let's. Let's expose all of it. Let's learn all of it. Just shine a light on every bit of it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

But.

[Dan Bernstein]

But it is all about the term selective outrage. Selective outrage on the part of the NFL, selective outrage on the part of fans, selective outrage on the part of podcasters, selective outrage on the part of the.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Of.

[Dan Bernstein]

Of journalists. That's what this all clearly is. And everybody is involved in. Selective outrage. And we're part of it, too. Absolutely stipulate to that. Right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

We. And we've said that all along during the course of this story, that it's not going to impact the way we consume the NFL. No, I mean, I can feel very strongly about the way the NFL is protecting those within its organization and their. Their lack of desire to do anything to investigate this story. If I really was at actual true convictions about it, I would stop watching the NFL. I would say that is not an organization I want to consume in my life at all. Yet I won't do that because I Love the game. Yeah, I'm a hypocritical asshole about it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, you don't have to go that far.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, no, I am, but, but all I want is, I want the NFL to do their job, just investigate it, find out. And I'm not saying they even need to. I mean, you're not going to go back and retroactively like redo trades. You can't change the past. But just say, hey, yeah, we're aware of how this impacted the business and we're looking into what we can do differently because we want the cleanest, best product possible and they just don't care to have that. And honestly, you don't need to do anything, Dan, because no one's going to stop. It's just going to keep growing and getting more wealthy and more wealthy and more wealthy. We, with the exception of the owners of the Chicago Bears, I know that, yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

If I were Diana Rossini, what I would do is, is just pick a time. Just know that you're, you've, you're ticking time bomb right now to just be able to say, okay, you want, you want to know stuff about people. Here's what's been going on.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

We asked that weeks ago, who does

[Dan Bernstein]

she do it with and how much does she earn and just blow the lid off everything. If you've got to replace $1 million a year contract that you were just about to sign for multi millions, you got to replace that somehow. I don't know, it's. It's hard to make that much money off a book, but you can.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

No, you sit down and interview for $5 million, say, hey, I'll tell you everything you want to know. Five million bucks, me and you, one on one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Never. That might be.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nothing's off limits.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

You know, we talked about Mark Slear the week or two ago and you know the NFL insider, he's still in very much involved in, you know, does media, but he's going to training camps and minicamps and OTAs and he's gets access to coaches that whenever he wants. He even said that the NFL is scared about more stuff coming out. He made that comment. It's a guy who knows, he knows and the NFL just doesn't care and they're not going to do anything about it. Speaking of the Bears and their lack of wealth, take a listen to DBU if you haven't yet or were planning to. Today we open up that podcast with a full breakdown of the most current information about the Bear stadium where a day or two ago we thought the Bears were actively involved and worked.

[Dan Bernstein]

Today was supposed to be the day. Today was supposed to be the day. Was the day.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Much more clarity, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

More clarity would come out of the Bears work. And now we find out through a special report that the work is not being done.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope. Even though everybody had made sure they had all the right people to help them understand the way legislation is created and say, this is what you have to do. This is being asked of you, and this is how it works. This is the way our system works. The lobbyists will help you describe exactly what you want in terms that can be placed into an actual bill. And then lawmakers will mark it up and they'll just say, okay, we'll change this to this and do this to this and do this. Well, this is a good starting point. And it's a collaborative effort where your lobbyists help you write these laws, and you have to engage it, be a part of it. You can't just sit there and say, give us things in a law. That's not how it works. But the Bears don't seem to appreciate that. And the bigger problem to me is no one knows who's speaking officially for the Bears right now. That's the other takeaway. Whoever's talking to the governor didn't have information on what they were doing that was informed. And I think there's really only a couple people involved here.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. I wanted to ask you, as I forgot to do it to DBU, when we learned that there was that 11th hour push, was it from the House that tried to create Senate? The Senate. Okay. And. And we learned in the story that the Bears didn't have time to react to it. Well, yeah. Because you weren't there physically in the building where you could have actually had conversations and reacted to it. My question was, and I forgot to ask you this. Do you think here it is now June 24, and this was May 31. Do you think they've even seen that proposed bill?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

What would your gut tell you?

[Dan Bernstein]

My gut would tell me somebody has, but their internal communication is so bad. I wouldn't know if the. If principals have seen it or cared about it or. I don't know that George McCaskey understands what he knows or doesn't know.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I would say that the principals involved do not. They. They have never seen it. I bet you they've never even seen

[Dan Bernstein]

it because George McCaskey has handed over so much power to Kevin Warren and

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

continues to do so.

[Dan Bernstein]

And continues to do so that when it, when George McCaskey is talking to somebody about what the Bears are doing, he's not well informed.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

He's not. He's not. He's. He is. He has stepped away and given all authority and a power to a guy who's a con artist and has not done a single thing towards achieving the goal of why he was hired in now three and a half years.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct. Despite the fact that he was given every resource because everyone knew exactly what the process was going to be. And those experienced political hands, policy wonks, actual lobbyists to go start working over people for the votes to do the political work to convince people to take your side. That's what politics is. That's the art of persuasion. And the Bears haven't engaged in that one iota. There's nothing like the American Express Platinum card. Find out your welcome offer after you apply, which could be as high as 175,000 points. Learn more and find out your [e-mail] Explore Platinum terms apply when you're a

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[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

All right, a couple other notes. First thing here on the Chicago Bears I want to ask you because we've looked at the our lads depth chart. The last time we looked was Xavion Thomas listed in punt return and kick return.

[Dan Bernstein]

I will tell you right now.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

No, I know what he is now but last time we looked at it, I thought, I thought Khalif Raymond.

[Dan Bernstein]

It was Khalif Raymond.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right. So now it's listed both as Xavion Thomas.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

That's changed, correct?

[Dan Bernstein]

I believe it is.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

I believe that's A change.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Okay. Yeah. I was just looking at it this morning, and I wanted to ask you because I could have sworn that he was listed as the punt returner, maybe Kalief Raymond was.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was listed. Yes, he was listed as punt returner. But that tells me one of two things. Or it tells me a little bit of both things. One, someone with knowledge believes that the Bears have seen enough in OTA work to convince them that the explosiveness of Thomas is. Is worth some inexperience, perhaps, at catching footballs in these situations. The other would be that Khalif Raymond's role, maybe one that has become more important than expected, and they don't want to expose a player over 30 to other injury possibilities unnecessarily.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, And I think both could very much be true.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's. That would be my guess is that for all the stuff we were reading about Khalif Raymond, that there was enough whisper of angles. Khalif Raymond, hey, you see the Khalif Raymond and they say, okay, well, maybe we don't want him taking hits he doesn't have to take. We'd rather throw the rookie out there and, and get something out of an explosive rookie who might not get the snaps otherwise.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, because they may have learned that he is a little more valuable offensively than maybe they were anticipating. And maybe that aspect of leadership and having familiarity with Ben Johnson maybe proved a little more valuable than maybe they. They thought could be. The NFL.com they have their. Their top 100 players. We went through yesterday.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, what are we at? 98 and 97 today. You know, I can't wait.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

97?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

I told you all day I was waiting for this.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

All right. Player number 98 is quarterback for the Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young.

[Dan Bernstein]

What?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

98 and 97 is Seattle linebacker Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones. 126 tackles, seven passes defended, five interceptions last year.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

For your champion Seattle Seahawks.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good for Ernest. And congratulations to Bryce.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

So tomorrow, Dan, I'm gonna have for you 96 and 95, given that I remember to take a look

[Dan Bernstein]

if I don't forget.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, that's all it is. I also wanted to mention tight end you last week.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, university.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I saw a photo online, Dan, of Travis Kelsey, George Kittle and Greg Olson with their. With their significant others. And it. I read in the article that it was their. Their sixth year attending tight end university.

[Dan Bernstein]

So there's six too many years.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes, six.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. You're taking a long time. Look, I know college is fun. I know we want to Stay there forever and never leave as long as somebody else is paying for it. But it's six is a long time for you to. You may have to change the name.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. Greg, you're not even playing anymore and you're still going to university.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, because then you look like a desperado. Yeah, that's, that's, you know that guy, like, he graduated two years ago, but he's still at the student bar.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

And I was like, yes, there he

[Dan Bernstein]

is going on with that creep over there.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Taylor Swift was there in attendance. I guess the second year in a row she attended Tight End University. They were at some bar in Nashville and she actually got on stage and sang.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, that's nice.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. So nice little treat for the tight ends.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, okay. I think they need to change the name from university.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Why?

[Dan Bernstein]

Because if people can come every single year, once you're. Once you're in, you're in like a frat house.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Is that what you're thinking?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know what it is. It's. It's a club. It's like a. It's more like an elk's lodge. Right. The Loyal Order of Moose.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, that sounds. Well, hey, be careful.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I know.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Hard to shoot.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, no, Kyle Busch's family can shoot one.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right. But I'm saying. But they're hard to shoot, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

I guess it's a big deal.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

It must be.

[Dan Bernstein]

It must be because they're so quick.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I got scolded for that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't worry. That's Friday feedback. Friday that's coming.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I'm sure I knew right away, though.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think the issue is the difficulty of shooting it. I think it's the danger you incur by trying to get close enough.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, but that's why you have a rifle with a scope. You don't need to get that close. Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

You don't have to leave your house.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

You wouldn't have to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Really good scope. You just got to sit outside on the porch.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I mean, Kyle Busch could have driven by in his car and got at it. Right. Moose. Moose catches that. That's a quick moose.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, well, they're not. They're not. They're not quick. They're kind of lumbering, but they are big.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Big. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when I said, you know, that I didn't think it would be that difficult. I wasn't saying going up with hand to hand combat and like a knife and trying to kill the thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, because eventually it would be like, ow. And then it would stomp on you.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Right. You'd be dead. But if you're a few hundred feet away and you got a rifle with a scope, it doesn't seem like something all that hard to. To hit.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, that's what. If you listen to the podcast that only moose listen to and all the, all the moose podcasts, they're. They're just talking about the, the moose that had Kyle Busch, you know, so they, they said, hey, this guy, I don't know, he wanted to do his own. He drafted him because he wanted to do his own research on the COVID vaccine.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

So for the deadpool, he had him in the deadpool.

[Dan Bernstein]

He had him because he. And he knew that he. That if he got sick, he wasn't going to go to the doctor. So it was a good draft pick on the part of the moose. So, you know, they're allowed. They can, they can put their own bets in right there if everybody else can get in a lottery to kill moose.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, I, I've already put in a request with the administration for us to attend tight end you next year and do a show.

[Dan Bernstein]

Thought you're gonna say the tight end. The moose hunt in Maine. No.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Oh, no, I don't want to do a moose hunt. I wanna.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, we gotta go to. Maine's awesome though.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

We gotta go.

[Dan Bernstein]

We have a listener there. We've got a huge.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

If we can bunk up there, we'll be fine.

[Dan Bernstein]

We actually probably could. We actually probably could. If you. If we wanted, we got. We have a place where we could say we have. We've got people in our underground in the French 75 who can. Can give cover for the 312 sports people to go to Maine and, And track moose.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

All right, so we have a few trips. We're Nashville for tight end. You, Maine for moose tracks.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hunting.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, we've got to go to Buffalo for a Bears game and then we've got it. Oh, then we. We need to have something planned for our one year anniversary coming up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be nice. I would like to do something for that.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Like.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, just us.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Romantic dinner.

[Dan Bernstein]

We've done that before. We should go. You know, I think, I think. No, for old time's sake. Kankakee again. Oh, okay.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

A little different though, without drinking.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Without.

[Dan Bernstein]

Without each of us having like a bottle and a half of amaretto.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it was good. But we saw every. We. We hit every place in Kankakee that sold amaretto and it was the same night those two other guys rolled into vetoes and Then rolled out into the ditch. Do you remember that?

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Two guys came. Obliterated.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, like, eyes crossed, bright red shirt untucked, like, completely swaying, leaning on each other to stay upright. And they took one look around like, let's get out of here. And they left. And they left. And you said something like, oh, my God, those guys are driving. And then we heard this noise. And we look up, and right across from the Denny's, they were. Car is turned over and they're in the ditch. Cars upside down, they're in the ditch, and one guy's standing outside the car looking at it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

I don't know how that happened.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, that sucks.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. Didn't see that one coming.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm just glad nobody was hurt.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes. No, no one was hurt.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nobody was hurt.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

The telling of that joke, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, no, I. I might have thrown out my hamstring because I'm a Cubs pitcher now.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Oh, did you see the. The lineup for today for game one?

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

No. Well, you decide. It's like a choose your own adventure. PCA leading off, Michael Conforto in right field, Michael Bush Seussuki, Ian Happ, Nico Horner, Pedro Ramirez. At third, Miguel Amaya catching Dansby Swanson batting ninth.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't mind Bregman having a break.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes, I'm totally fine with that. Totally fine. So that's your first game.

[Dan Bernstein]

They paid him more than Diana Rossini money.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Maybe she was going to get Bregman money.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is that what it was? Yeah. Is that what it was? Hold on a second. I got. I was only texting and driving as I'm trying to break some news about the NFL copper.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

What. What's your plans for your birthday here, birthday boy?

[Dan Bernstein]

None. I have to go. I have to go to the doctor. And after the doctor, Jason wanted to play darts. There's a new dart bar in north center that looks awesome. Okay, Happy hour. They do. They do free darts at happy hour. Okay, so we might go. He's gotten really good now, so it's annoying. I can't. He's gonna have to spot me some points. And we play cricket, and we're gonna do that. And then it's undecided. All I told everybody is as long as my night ends with a peanut Buster parfait. Oh, that's my only. The only mandatory box to check for me is I do a peanut buster parfait on my birthday.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

All right, very good.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then what should we do? What should we do? Should we do Chinese? Should we do.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, have you had Chinese since I lured you into the Chinese that night and it wasn't open. You have. Okay, yes. No, the whole family's going out, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

We could do. Yeah, we could do Korean barbecue.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah. So you got to do something good. You can't do like a Dan meal.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, yeah, I can.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, you're not gonna go get like, what is that, Chicken Ranch or Burger Ranch? Where do you go?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, Red Hot Ranch.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, they're not. They're like, no, we're not gonna do Red Hot Ran. I think Zoe aren't gonna go get burgers.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. They do. They do fries. Are you kidding? The Red Hot Ranch fries, They'd make a. They'd each order an order of fries and make a meal out of it.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Okay, well, then do that. It's your birthday.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, but I'm. But I like to accommodate other people. I don't like to stomp all over everybody and say, you have because it's my birthday. No, that's what Beth does when it's her. Wait till next week.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Wait, wait.

[Dan Bernstein]

When it's her birthday. It's like it's her birthday for an entire week and everybody has to do everything. And I said, honey, we all, we always do everything you say all the time anyway, so it doesn't really change anything. But I don't, you know, I'm not going to hear to boss anybody around.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Well, it says next week. You just. You can't complain about it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know it's going to get back to her that I'm complaining about it already.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Oh, yeah. I already have a clip already.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm going to. It's like, I don't have to make the bed today or I don't have to, you know, at night when we close the curtains and have to put the pillows up there to keep the curtains closed and all that. So she's like, I'm not doing any of that. It's all you. It's all that.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

So since it's your birthday night, do you get to sleep in the house tonight with.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know, I. But I get to take the Stan Van Gundy body pillow out to the backyard with me.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, you can see it on Google Earth. I think Jason was mad that I didn't bring it to the Advocate center last night. He said if I had any balls, I would have walked into the Bulls practice facility with the Stan Van Gundy life size body pillow.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah, no, that would have been. Would have been good for the credibility.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good for 312 sports.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yes. Perfect.

[Dan Bernstein]

Come on, man. Maybe it might be a time and a place where we'll do that. But no.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

No. If Korean barbecue is an option, I would do that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

That sounds really good to me.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. We could do Sun Tzu Gabsan.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

You should do that. Okay. Maybe. Enjoy your birthday. Enjoy your darts. Enjoy. Enjoy your dinner and your peanut butter pasta. What is it?

[Dan Bernstein]

Buster Peanut.

[Matt Abeticola]

Was it a pus?

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a Peanut Buster Parfait.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Peanut Buster Parfait?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it's.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

It's chocolate, nuts and ice cream.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's regular Dairy Queen vanilla soft serve and it's layered in with hot fudge and Spanish peanuts.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Spanish peanuts.

[Dan Bernstein]

The ones.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because sometimes they have the little skin on them.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's good stuff.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

All right. That sounds like a good day. Go enjoy it, birthday boy.

[Dan Bernstein]

I will. And that has been Forward progress on 312 sports for progress is Stopped.

[Co-host (possibly a sports journalist or analyst)]

Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 31 2, sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hey, sweetie. Your mother showed me this Carvana thing for selling the car. I'm going to give it a try. Wish me luck. Me again. I put in the license plate. It gave me an offer. Unbelievable. Okay, I accepted the offer. They're picking it up Tuesday from the driveway. I haven't even left my chair.

[Matt Abeticola]

It's done.

[Dan Bernstein]

The car is gone. I'm holding a check. Anyway. Carvana, give it a whirl. Love ya.

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