The Big Game isn't coming to Chicago, ever!

Summary

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Forward Progress - A Chicago Bears Podcast

Episode: The Big Game isn't coming to Chicago, ever!

Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Matt Abbatacola
Date: February 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Matt dissect the news cycle leading up to Super Bowl weekend, analyze the Chicago Bears' coaching changes, and, most notably, dive deep into why the NFL’s Super Bowl requirements make hosting the big game in Chicago virtually impossible. The episode balances inside-football commentary with a skeptical, often humorous look at NFL bureaucracy and the realities of mega-event hosting.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Bears Coaching Updates (01:15–05:13)

• Eric Studesville Hired as RB Coach:
  • Former Bears staffer with a long NFL resume; replaces Eric Bieniemy.
  • Dan: “In his career he has coached 14 1000+ yard rushers. So good success for the run game...” (03:49)
• Variety in roles: From offensive quality control under Wanstead to multiple stints as RB coach and even an interim head coaching gig.
• Matt: “He's probably the most qualified person they could possibly find with experience in multiple organizations as a running backs coach.” (04:47)
• Offensive Coordinator search remains open; speculation about staff roles continues.

2. Joe Flacco’s Surprising Old-School Rant (05:13–08:44)

• Flacco, on Kevin Clark’s show, lamented excessive QB protection penalties and reminisced about "old school" football toughness.
• Colorful tangent involving roughing the passer and tongue-in-cheek humor about penalties.
  • Matt: “He has become an old is what he is.” (06:14)
  • Dan: “He’s Frankenstein’s monster… just to hear a quarterback talk that way was kind of surprising.” (06:41)
• Acknowledges self-awareness but ultimately circles back to old-school “toughness.”
  • Matt: “He slipped into kind of a caricature of an old player who thinks the young players are coddled and cosseted.” (07:04)
• Both hosts enjoy Flacco’s candor and riff on the generational divide in football.

3. Why Chicago Will Never Host the Super Bowl (09:04–47:17)

The NFL’s Staggering Demands

• Joe Pompliano’s “Huddle Up” Newsletter exposed the NFL’s 154-page stadium bid requirements.
• Highlights include:
  • Stadium rent-free for 54 days (12:24)
  • Minimum 70,000 seats, dome required below 50°F average (12:25)
  • NFL takes 100% of ticket and parking revenue (13:28, 24:52)
  • Must provide luxury suites, hotels, parking, golf courses, bowling alleys, buses, limos, cellular upgrades, security perimeters, free staff apartments, and even a million-dollar charity match—plus sales tax exemptions on top (entire segment starting 12:24 extended through 39:14)
• Dan: “The NFL controls one quarter of all the Super Bowl tickets. Period. But they get 100% of the ticket revenue.” (13:28)
• Matt: On golf courses/bowling alleys: “How are they going to play in February?” (14:38)
• Dan: “I just, I still can’t see the state of Illinois being able to do [this] in Arlington Heights… 35,000 parking spaces, 27,000 hotel rooms…” (35:31)
• Chicago’s climate, infrastructure, and fiscal situation are all factors, but the requirements themselves are “insane” and prohibitive.

Economic “Benefit” Debated

• Cited host city revenue claims ($200-300 million) with skepticism about their accuracy and true net value.
  • Matt: “The accuracy of those things… a lot of that is puffed up. It isn’t necessarily actual realized value.” (34:55)
  • Dan: “Enough people think it is [worth it].” (35:30)
• They agree that political motives and backroom deals, not direct economic benefit, likely drive most bids.

Ridiculous or Not?

• Both hosts astonished — but not surprised — at the breadth and pettiness of the NFL’s asks.
  • Dan: “Isn’t that insane? And those are just 40 of the more interesting things he pulled out of a 154-page document.” (36:21)
  • Matt: “I guarantee you the stories about FIFA and the World Cup would put that to shame.” (39:33)
• Anecdotes about covering previous Super Bowls in Detroit, Jacksonville, Miami, New Orleans, and the shenanigans with accommodations reinforce their points about the logistical burden and dubious upside for host cities.

4. Reflections & Final Thoughts

• Neither host wants a Chicago Super Bowl: Both emphasize that the NFL’s requirements make it a nonstarter — and that’s not a bad thing.
  • Matt (sarcastically): “That’s not an insult.” (47:38)
  • Dan: “I just don’t know how it’s beneficial. I would love to really know how it’s beneficial for a city.” (46:33)
• They reflect on positive Super Bowl coverage memories elsewhere—but always as working press, not fans, and never viewing it as a civic opportunity for Chicago.
• Casual banter about dream travel destinations closes the episode.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bears RB coach hire:

  “He's probably the most qualified person they could possibly find with experience in multiple organizations as a running backs coach.”
  — Matt Abbatacola (04:47)

• On Joe Flacco’s “throwback” personality:

  “He has become an old is what he is.”
  — Matt Abbatacola (06:14)

  “He’s not here for your quarterback protections.”
  — Matt Abbatacola (05:51)

• On Super Bowl bid requirements:

  “The NFL gets the use of the Super Bowl stadium rent-free for 30 days before the game and 24 days after. A total of 54 days of use, completely free of charge.”
  — Dan Bernstein (12:24)

• On why Chicago’s out:

  “I still can’t see the state of Illinois being able to do [this] in Arlington Heights… 35,000 parking spaces, 27,000 hotel rooms…”
  — Dan Bernstein (35:31)

  “They’re already out.”
  — Matt Abbatacola (20:03)

• On the NFL’s audacity:

  “Isn’t that insane? And that’s just. Those are 40 of the more interesting things he pulled out of a 154-page document.”
  — Dan Bernstein (36:21)

• On the “benefit” to cities:

  “The NFL takes everything. Everything that profit wise, they take it all.”
  — Dan Bernstein (47:03)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [01:15] Bears new RB coach: Eric Studesville
• [05:13] Joe Flacco’s “old-school” QB rant
• [09:04] NFL Super Bowl bid requirements (main topic)
  • [12:24] Key requirements and deal-breakers for Chicago
  • [19:29] Hotel requirements, pricing, and revenue splits
  • [24:00] Parking, stadium infrastructure, logistics
  • [30:12] Law enforcement and safety requirements
  • [32:02] Media accommodations and host expenses
  • [34:04] Questioning the “benefit” to host cities
• [37:00+] Memories of Super Bowl coverage, not as fans
• [42:43] No interest in a Chicago Super Bowl
• [44:00+] Casual travel and life discussion

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Tone & Style

• Authentically skeptical, occasionally sarcastic, irreverent and candid — insider’s Chicago sports radio at its best.
• Detailed, analytical, but laced with personal stories and sharp banter.
• Chummy, accessible, and always “on the fans’ side.”

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In summary:
This episode offers a thorough look at why Chicago will almost certainly never be home to a Super Bowl — not due to the city's climate or hotels, but because the NFL’s unyielding demands make it a lose-lose proposition for any host. Dan and Matt’s combination of expertise, humor, and Bears fandom keeps the conversation fast-paced and relatable for both diehards and casual NFL observers. If you’ve ever wondered why the Big Game seems so exclusive to a few golden cities, this is the exposé you need to hear.

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Transcript

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Dan Bernstein]

I mean if you're a Bears fan.

[Matt Abeticola]

You'Re thinking Forward Progress. Come on. 10.

[Dan Bernstein]

219 219. Forward progress a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and MattDiCaliCola on 312 Sports.

[Matt Abeticola]

We give you forward progress on 312 Sports on this pre Super Bowl Thursday with football things happening and attention being paid to America's cult like sport from across the world. And the Bears news that we have today is a new running running backs coach. Yep. And it's a former Bears coach who I actually remember from my time a hundred years ago on the Bears beat Eric Stoodsville who I believe was their quality control coach starting around. He's 96 or 97 and he was there under Dave Wanstead and actually stuck around after one step was fired and after the Dave McGinnis fiasco and he was there under Dick Duran. So he really was. Yeah, he was kept there. I don't remember if he was promoted at that point, but I know he started as I think offensive quality control and then has certainly paid his dues.

[Dan Bernstein]

So Bears new running backs coach that replaces Eric B. Enemy still.

[Matt Abeticola]

Still somebody named Eric? Apparently it has to be.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. What. What's left for the Bears coaching staff?

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, offensive coordinator. See, that's the big one.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's it, right?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, I think that's all that's left. I think it's offensive coordinator and yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Unless I missed it. Did you see what Will Long is going to do yet? Have they announced anything? Any role? No coach. Okay.

[Matt Abeticola]

I have not seen it. That was the first name that surfaced. Yeah. When we hit the off season and so far nothing. But yes, Dudesville has a long resume here and after his time he was coaching with Wanstead. Well, he was. Yeah, he Was offensive quality control under Wanstead, then under Jaron. It looks like wide receivers coach and assistant special teams coach. So he must have had enough value to stick around. Running backs coach for the Giants, Running backs coach for Buffalo. Running game coordinator for Buffalo. Running backs coach for the Broncos in 2010. Interim head coach for the Broncos in 2010. Then he was running. I forgot that. I didn't remember that. Yeah, running backs coach again there from 2011 to 2016. Dolphins RB coach and run game coordinator, Dolphins Co OC and running backs coach. Then Dolphins associate head coach and running backs coach and now Bears running backs coach. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I saw that. In his career he has coached 141000 plus yard rushers. So good success for the run game and we know that will continue hopefully.

[Matt Abeticola]

For the Chicago Bears.

[Dan Bernstein]

But yeah, replace the guy with a guy who's got some great experience.

[Matt Abeticola]

Terrific. I don't know really what, how much difference running backs coaches make.

[Dan Bernstein]

So you said Miami too, right? He was Miami.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. He's certainly qualified for the position.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did he. And were he and Johnson down there at the same time? One of they crossed paths down there.

[Matt Abeticola]

I'm sure I would have to check that. He was with the dolphins 2017 until yesterday, so probably.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, then he was. Then Ben was there or 20, 21 with Detroit.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yep. So yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

So they were in Miami together.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. Okay. All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, there you go.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right. I don't have a strong feeling. I, I don't. I can't tell you right now, good, bad and different. But he certainly, I, I cannot say he is. He's probably the most qualified person they could possibly find with experience in multiple organizations as a running backs coach. He was, he did it for the Giants, the Bills, the Broncos and the Dolphins and now the Bears.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And I don't know if you saw this. Did you see Joe Flacco was on a show, I'm assuming around the super bowl media media row, radio row. He was on the Kevin Clark show.

[Matt Abeticola]

I, I saw it. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. So I just, I thought it was interesting and just want to pull up a couple, couple points and share with you. I didn't, I didn't expect to hear Joe Flacco say all these things, but he was Talking about the 15 yard penalties, the, the flags thrown against quarterback. Well, where quarterbacks are then are being hit or whatever.

[Matt Abeticola]

He's not here for your quarterback protections. He is not here for incidental hits to the head. He is not here for falling on a quarterback with your full weight being a penalty. And then, and then he Was just getting started and then he got rolling a little bit. He was talking about all these, these penalties on, on legal hits down the field. He has become an old is what he is.

[Dan Bernstein]

He sure has. Yeah. Shouldn't be roughing the passer when they land on me, when they slap my head. That shouldn't be a penalty as well. These 15 yard flags drip hot candle.

[Matt Abeticola]

Wax on my nipples. That also, oh wait, that also seems.

[Dan Bernstein]

He likes that kind of getting there.

[Matt Abeticola]

When they pull out a cat of nine tails and punish me for being a bad boy, they, well, I think I, I, I, I've spoken too much perhaps.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. But he said these, these 15 yard penalties, they affect the game in a negative way ultimately saying that the game should be decided by the players and not by the officials with these kind of 15 yard penalties. You know, I just, I was, I wasn't expecting it. I mean, I know he's Frankenstein's monster and the guy is, he's not human. So these things probably don't hurt him or affect him at all. But just to hear a quarterback talk that way was, was kind of surprising.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, I thought it was, he kind of was feeling himself a little bit when he kind of got rolling and he then at one point pause and he goes, well, I'm sure that the guys before me thought the same things about the guys before them. And he, he was, he was self aware for a moment and then he went right back into the, the game was better back in the day. And now these young quarterbacks there, they don't have it. So, and it's, they don't develop as quickly because they don't have a sense beaten into them in the same way. So he, he slipped into kind of a caricature of, of an old player who thinks the young players are coddled and cosseted.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Because he even even mentioned a running back going across the middle of the field and getting drilled, how that shouldn't be looked at as a penalty. He goes, he called that just football. That's just football. When I, when a guy gets drilled and regardless of how it happens and what the defensive player uses to hit the player, that's just football. So, you know, I, I don't know. And he, it was weird because, you know, you, we, we've done enough interviews. You've done enough interviews that he answers the question and then just doesn't stop and he's going and going. And then another thing, and let me tell you one more thing. And then there's another thing I want as an interviewer. Great. Yes, it was great.

[Matt Abeticola]

He's rolling. Don't stop.

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't have to say anything. He asked one question. He spoke for like 12 minutes. And another thing, and another thing, you know, get off my lawn. Damn kids.

[Matt Abeticola]

It was great. I wouldn't bother me when they would jump on my head and stand on my neck and all this stuff. That's just football. So I don't know why they're all unhappy about it. I had to go through it, I had to deal with it, I had to learn about it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I loved it. And it's, that's, that's my guy. I don't know what his status is for next year if he's playing anywhere in the league, but I'll be rooting for him when he, when he's out there playing though. Frankenstein's monster. All right. Have you, have you heard of the, the newsletter by Joe Pompliano? It's called Huddle Up.

[Matt Abeticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

So it releases. Yeah, three, three times a week. And I've been, been reading it. It's been a, been a good read. He put one out this week about the, the demands that the NFL puts on the host city for the Super Bowl. Okay, so apparently There is a 154 page bid submission document of requirements that the host city must follow through for on the NFL. If the NFL is to come to your city, you have to follow through on this 154 page submission and this.

[Matt Abeticola]

Is disclosed before you're even in the running for it. If you apply for this, if you enter into the sweepstakes to win one of these, these must be, it isn't like after the fact. It's like so you've won a Super bowl and you now have one in your city. And here the 154 pages.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, you're fully aware of all this before you even go in and say, hey, I want to host one, you, you know what's entailed before this happens now. Okay. You know, last year, dan, there was 127 point people that watch the game. NBC this year will generate more than $700 million in advertising revenue from commercials alone. So obviously big business, we know that luxury suites have already been sold for a million dollars or more. The San Jose Airport expects 150 private jets each paying anywhere between 10 to 20 thousand dollars special event fee just to land. So the money is insane. So what he went through, he went through and he read this 150 page.

[Matt Abeticola]

If you are a pilot, you want to pay that before you take off. You just want to make sure that your landing fee is taken care of. You don't want to be like running out of gas trying to cobble together your landing fee just a little bit.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, yeah, I would think that would be. Yeah, that's a good warning to throw out there to all the private jet pilots that are listening to the podcast right now. Make sure you pay your fees in advance because you'd hate to be like, all right, we're coming in here.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes, we're coming into land. Like, not so fast.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not, not this.

[Matt Abeticola]

I don't have it on me. I, I don't have it on me.

[Dan Bernstein]

I, you know, I don't have 20 grand. Yeah, yeah. Like it's. I don't think that's something you call, you call five minutes before when you're out and say, hey, I want to land and all right, we'll get your credit card now.

[Matt Abeticola]

Exactly. All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

So he went through this 154 pages and, and, and he pulled out some. And I'm gonna, I just want to go through some of these because these are, these are incredible. And this is why I think the state of Illinois will never, ever, ever, ever, regardless of what happens with their stadium issues, will ever host a Super Bowl. Now, obviously, if they stay at Soldier Field. And thank you for all the emails and people and saying that the lease ends 2033. Thank you for that. Even if they. So if they stay at Soldier Field, it's never going to happen. We know that for sure. If they get a new stadium and somehow that gets built in Illinois, I still don't think they'll ever host one. But here's, here's what it is. And he pulled out the top 40. I'll go through some of these for you. The NFL gets the use of the super bowl stadium rent free for 30 days before the game and 24 days after. A total of 54 days of use, completely free of charge.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay?

[Dan Bernstein]

The stadium must have at least 70,000 seats. If the stadium is located in a city where the historical average daily temperature over a 10 year period is during the week of the game is below 50 degrees, it must have a dome. If the NFL decides to make a weather related exception, as they did at MetLife Stadium in 2014, the stadium must install an under field heating system at its own expense. Okay. The NFL sets ticket prices and receives 100% of ticket revenue. As for ticket allocation, the two participating teams each receive 17.5% of the total tickets. The host team receives 5%. The 29 other NFL teams receive 1.2% and the NFL controls the remaining 25.2% of the Super bowl tickets. So the NFL controls 1/4 of all the super bowl tickets, period. But they get 100% of the ticket revenue.

[Matt Abeticola]

Mm.

[Dan Bernstein]

The host city must provide the NFL with three championship level 18 hole golf courses and two top quality bowling alleys, free of charge for charity events.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, like what's that? When they say top quality, they mean something like one of these, like clubby newfangled bar, restaurant, like Lucky Strike down here or something like that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I would think something like that. Large enough, obviously, and then. Yeah, championship level. 18 whole courses.

[Matt Abeticola]

Championship level, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

So that's. I'm thinking you're thinking PGA quality event, not just, oh, this is one of the best ones in our. In our state or our area. If the PGA wouldn't play there, that's probably not going to qualify.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, so you've got what, Chicago golf. You have Medina, You've got a Cog Hill. Yeah, Dubs dreaded Cog Hill.

[Dan Bernstein]

Conway Farms has hosted championships before BMW. But that's not. And that's too far out too, I would think. Well, it's really depends where it is.

[Matt Abeticola]

I don't think it's too far.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, no, I mean, because it has to be like, things have to be within certain driving distance of the actual playing stadium.

[Matt Abeticola]

How are they going to play in February?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, they wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's why this is never going to happen in Illinois. Okay. The NFL. The NFL can cover or remove ATM machines inside the super bowl stadium if they conflict with its preferred payment partner. This also applies to food and beverages. So if the stadium typically serves Coca Cola and Heineken, the NFL can replace those beverages with league sponsors like Pepsi and Bud Light. The host city must provide the NFL with sales tax exemptions on all revenue generated from ticket sales, parking fees, merchandise, and NFL related events.

[Matt Abeticola]

That's giving up a ton.

[Dan Bernstein]

A ton. Sixteen months before the Super bowl, the NFL will send 180 people to the host city for a familiarization triple to inspect the region. The host city must cover all expenses for this trip.

[Matt Abeticola]

So they're just basically partying?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, they're getting familiar with the region and there's 180 of us. And you're paying for everything from airfare and cars and hotels and food. Everything we do, you're paying for it.

[Matt Abeticola]

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[Dan Bernstein]

The NFL must be allocated at least 50% of the luxury suites, no less than 70. At least 75% of those suites must be between the end lines. With 50, 30 suites on the press box side and four suites at the 50 yard line. The four best suites go to the participating teams, the league's broadcast partner and commissioner Goodell. The NFL gets a free luxury suite at the Super Bowl's host home stadium throughout the entire regular season leading up to the year's game. So they get a free luxury suite for the entire season.

[Matt Abeticola]

Sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

Potential.

[Matt Abeticola]

So for the people who are there for the all expense paid, six month vacation, need somebody to take their clients or wine and dine potential.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

Sponsors and customers. You've got a place to do it. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Potential hosts may not use celebrities, mayors, governors or senators in their bid presentations. Once the NFL picks its finalists, those finalists can make their case to the league's membership group, NFL owners, and then they vote to determine the winner. So that's how it goes. So you know all this in advance from an operating cost perspective. The NFL agrees to pay only for electricity, water, gas and sewage incurred during the Super Bowl. These expects, these expenses are calculated as the difference between stadium consumption in stand down mode, non super bowl operating mode, and the stadium during super bowl week. So whatever the cost is above normal stand down mode, which is non super bowl week, that's what the NFL will pay.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, I would need a clarification there. That when they say non stand down mode is, would that be a regular season game or would that be when there's no game going on?

[Dan Bernstein]

I would assume because it highlights non super bowl operating mode. So I would think that's during regular.

[Matt Abeticola]

Season, so be so non Super Bowl. But it's regular season, regular operating mode.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Because if you're not doing anything, then the cost is zero because no one's there. So there's some cost.

[Matt Abeticola]

I'm sure there's a nominal cost, but.

[Dan Bernstein]

They would pay whatever it is above. Like what? Like a regular season game.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Which I'm surprised they even would allow. To do that, the host stadium must have general liability insurance of at least $100 million. The host city committee may purchase up to 750 Super bowl tickets, but these tickets may not be resold on the secondary market at a price above face value, given the required expenses. To host a Super bowl, the host must provide the NFL with a bond or a letter of credit for at least $30 million. This bond or letter of credit is kept in force for six months after the game, ensuring all expenses are paid.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, that's reasonable, I guess.

[Dan Bernstein]

The NFL requires the host stadium's natural grass field to be resided for the super bowl at no cost to the NFL. When the game is over, the stadium operator must also pay to have the field removed at no cost to the NFL. And portions of the field are sent back to the NFL so they can sell them as licensed products. Okay, so new sod, we don't pay for it. When you're done, you take it off, but you give some of it to us so we can sell it, right? Yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

Grass.

[Dan Bernstein]

Grass. Soda. The host city must have hotel rooms equal to 30% of the stadium capacity within a 60 minute drive of the stadium. For a 75,000-seat stadium, that's 27,000 Hotel rooms within 60 minutes. Drive times are estimated based on peak drive time hours.

[Matt Abeticola]

Good luck with that then.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good luck with that.

[Matt Abeticola]

Especially here. Yeah, I'm just trying to think. Could.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, that's what I'm talking about. There's more things that I keep saying and I'm like, no Chicago, no Chicago, no Chicago.

[Matt Abeticola]

They're already out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

That didn't take long.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, hotel rates cannot exceed the average February rate from the year prior. And while the host committee is allowed to accept a 10% kickback from hotels for nightly bookings that week, 50% of whatever they make must go back to the NFL. So they, they, they, they can get extortion, complete extortion. They can get 10% kicked back to them, but 50% of that 10% goes back to the NFL.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, now, hold on a second.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, it.

[Matt Abeticola]

Does all this apply if, in fact, I, I always thought the rule was, the unspoken rule. The rule is, was you build something, you get a Super Bowl. Do they waive all this? If, if they get the deals that they want, do they have, can they waive parts of this? I'm sure the NFL could just, or somebody could just redline out any number of these.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I would, I would say no. There's, why would they do that? No, this is, I think if you, if you build a stadium, if you go to the league and say, hey, we're going to build like Sofi stadium, We're going to build, this is what we're going to build. This is what we're putting in place.

[Matt Abeticola]

Great.

[Dan Bernstein]

If you, if you build this, we will give you a Super Bowl. There will be no committee to look it over. We will award you a Super bowl in Year X, if you build this particular stadium.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, did you go back and look, do me a favor. See, go back to the bowling alley golf course portion. Was that and, or was that or. And so how did they do a Super bowl in Detroit? There was nobody. You weren't playing golf in Detroit.

[Dan Bernstein]

The host city must provide the NFL with three championship level 18 hole golf courses and two top quality bowling alleys free of charge for charity events.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, So, I mean they, maybe they provided them, but I don't, I didn't remember any charity events at the Detroit Super Bowl.

[Dan Bernstein]

We provided them.

[Matt Abeticola]

Just no one played on a golf course.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Team hotels must provide 100% of their total room inventory exclusively to the NFL. With a minimum of 300 rooms per property. At least 157 rooms must be free of charge, including 150 standard rooms, seven suites and two presidential suites. These hotels must also agree to replace food and beverage products with league sponsors and, and to televise the NFL network for one year prior to the Super Bowl.

[Matt Abeticola]

Wow.

[Dan Bernstein]

The host city must also provide 4403 bedroom, 52 bedroom and 21 bedroom apartments for 30 to 40 day stays for working staff such as production and security leading up to the game. These apartments must be within 20 minute drive of the stadium and include amenities such as WI fi, full kitchens in bedroom televisions, a washer and dryer, and a workout facility on the property.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

The host stadium must revise all its sponsorship agreements so the NFL is provided with a clean stadium free of any advertising. For the super bowl.

[Matt Abeticola]

You have to scrub all of it.

[Dan Bernstein]

All of it. The NFL then controls the advertising inventory with the only exception being a stadium naming rights partner. However, the naming rights also have stipulations. A stadium naming rights partner can only stay in place if one, the deal is at least 10 years old and two, the deal runs for an additional five years after the Super Bowl.

[Matt Abeticola]

God. Otherwise they can trample on that too.

[Dan Bernstein]

Otherwise they can take that down. So if you have one that's two years old, you can take that down. As a matter of fact, you're required to take it down. The host city must provide the NFL with 35,000 free parking spaces within one mile of the stadium.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay. No possible way. These spots need not for an actual car.

[Dan Bernstein]

These spots need to be paved, secure and well lit.

[Matt Abeticola]

35,000 parking spaces.

[Dan Bernstein]

The stadium is not allowed.

[Matt Abeticola]

Chicago.

[Dan Bernstein]

The stadium is not allowed to put any flyers or promotional products on the parked cars.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay. I mean, I'm just trying to think like you could. You got enough for that in Arlington. I'm just trying to picture. Could Arlington Heights do this?

[Dan Bernstein]

The NFL is entitled to 100% of the parking revenue generated at the stadium.

[Matt Abeticola]

Why not? I mean, this is.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hang on. The NFL, in coordination with state, local and federal authorities, requires the installation of a minimum 300 foot hardened security perimeter around the stadium's exterior walls at least 96 hours before the game's kickoff. The host is responsible for securing up to 14,000 lineal feet of 12 foot to 16 foot concrete barrier to fortify the secured perimeter around the stadium. This includes all shipping, transportation, delivery and installation costs, all covered by the host.

[Matt Abeticola]

That's something you would install ahead of time just for your own purposes, or hoping you could. You don't get to do a temporary barrier like that, are you?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, you're not. But I mean, it's very specific on the requirements though. All right, listen to this. Any businesses operating within the stadium's 300 foot security perimeter, restaurants, sports books, utility plants, whatever, must close for 96 hours before kickoff. If closing a business requires financial relief, the host is responsible for payment.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, you ready? The host city must provide. There's more. The host city must provide the NFL with at least 750 buses, 500 limousines, 1,000 taxis and 10,000 rental cars. The buses in limos must be no more than five years old.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

The NFL gets the right of first refusal to purchase all advertising on public transportation at standard rates. Buses, trolleys, subways, light rail, water taxi.

[Matt Abeticola]

All of it?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, so the, so the. The city loses out on all that money. This is really not sounding like that great a deal.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's not the host.

[Matt Abeticola]

This kind of sounds bad now.

[Dan Bernstein]

It doesn't sound very good, does it?

[Matt Abeticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

The host must make available at least 20 billboards for NFL use from September through the completion of the game. The first installation, of course, is free of charge with any additional vinyl changes coming at cost. The NFL has the first right of refusal on other billboards around the stadium at the standard rate, no markup. The host city must obtain waivers or exemptions to allow alcohol to be served until at least 4am at the NFL team post game hotels and parties.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, I was, I was a part of that on the NBA side once where the NBA went up against the laws of the. The ancient, draconian, bizarre laws of Utah. Yes. And guess what? One out.

[Dan Bernstein]

The NBA.

[Matt Abeticola]

Uh huh. Yeah, huh. I even remember somebody from the NBA saying I'm going to be. I'll be damned if there aren't going to be bottles Open in this hotel tonight.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. So you have to have at least at minimum a 4am liquor license. The NFL gets to approve stadium's final concession menu and price list. Two team practice facilities must be reserved for exclusive use from Saturday, eight days before the game through game day with rental fees and all operational expenses. Security staff, power IT catering, laundry services, et cetera, waived or paid for by the hosts. These facilities must be equivalent to the local NFL's teams facilities.

[Matt Abeticola]

Makes sense.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. To protect privacy during team practices, the host city must prevent unauthorized viewing of the practice facilities if the facility doesn't have privacy. Built in. The host city might be required to build opaque fencing, cover windows, or even potentially vacate nearby buildings that offer a view of the facility during practice.

[Matt Abeticola]

God forbid you see that somebody's running a dagger combination.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. When you're in your office working at your cubicle, right.

[Matt Abeticola]

And then you're walkie talkieing all that information live to the opposing team.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's like, yeah. Like the owner of a company is like, all right, guys, I guess we're going home for the next eight days. We can't work because we can see these facilities. The Super Bowl's stadium cellular service must meet or exceed the standards of the top three NFL stadiums for connectivity and coverage across all public areas. If cellular coverage needs to be enhanced, the host must install temporary towers.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

The host city must provide the NFL with all necessary public safety and law enforcement needs free of charge. Okay, this includes.

[Matt Abeticola]

I have a weird question here. When you say host city. If the Bears were to do this in Arlington Heights, technically Chicago is the host city. Like this doesn't. There's no way that a smaller municipality could come close to pulling off any of this. When you say the, you mean the, the. The host city, Meaning the market?

[Dan Bernstein]

Meaning the entire market or it's not specified. But that's just what I assume. Because thinking through that, I'm like, I mean, you have, you know, their facilities are in Lake Forest. They're, you know, stadium, let's say potentially would be Arlington Heights, but the market is Chicago.

[Matt Abeticola]

Right. I would think that there would be like a metro area market.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Like Santa Clara is not paying for all the stuff in Super Bowl.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay, okay. But it's the, whatever your formed multi municipality committee or organization, an ad hoc formation of a group that would represent the city or the market.

[Dan Bernstein]

Correct? That's what I would assume. Yes. That makes sense. Because Arlington Heights would be like, right. By the way, we don't want a stadium or a Super bowl here.

[Matt Abeticola]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. So they have to. They have to pay for all the public safety, which includes police officers to ems, anti counterfeit teams, and nuclear radiation monitoring helicopters.

[Matt Abeticola]

What are those cost?

[Dan Bernstein]

I wouldn't think they're cheap or.

[Matt Abeticola]

Can you retrofit a current helicopter to monitor nuclear radiation with a guy named Bill.

[Dan Bernstein]

He was in Vietnam. He can. He can smell stuff. Yeah, he's good.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, yeah. Yep, we got some. I can smell six rads, definitely. That's cesium. I know it. There's shrimp down there. Yep, that's radioactive shrimp.

[Dan Bernstein]

Radioactive shrimp, yeah. The host stadium must be fully cleaned and all facilities will be in good working condition at the beginning of the super bowl period at no cost to the NFL. A final cleaning of the stadium must then be conducted two days before the game. All potential renovation projects at the super bowl host stadium must be completed at least one month before the game. Any plans for stadium construction or renovation before the game must be approved by the NFL. The NFL has the exclusive right to host stadium tours. Prior to the super bowl. The host stadium must provide the NFL with 1100 working positions or seats for media members. 600 with writing tabletops, 500 without tabletops, all with a full view of the field. Press box seats must be 24 inches wide and have a writing surface 20 inches deep. The stadium must also provide 21 press box booths, 160 square feet and 10 to 12 mid level camera positions for NFL Films and international cameras. In addition to providing the NFL with free retail space throughout the airport, the host city must spend at least $60,000 on Super bowl decor like banners and stuff, etc. The host committee must cover all relevant expenses for a media party that includes 2,500 domestic and 1,000 international media members. So you're paying for a 3,500 person party. All NFL agrees. The NFL agrees to make a $1 million charitable donation to a non profit youth service providers in the host community, which the host committee must match.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, isn't that nice? A million dollars.

[Dan Bernstein]

So we're going to give a million dollars to a program in Chicago, but you have to match it as well. So Those were the 40 that he found were the most interesting in this 154 page.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, and so obviously the remaining question is something obviously has to make that all worth it and that has to be the estimated value of the event with. But I'd love to know what it really is. Not marketing value, not made up branding value, not people hearing nice things about your city, but the actual. The. The projected dollar amount has to be considerably more than the projected expenditure for this to be on balance worth your time and effort.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, doing a non racist Google search and I don't know how accurate this is but it said that host cities generally bring in 200 to they make between 200 and 300 million dollars.

[Matt Abeticola]

But again the accuracy of those things because of how certain things, these amorphous conc. Of the value of the advertising where they'd say well you would have paid for the number of times they mention your city and mention your tourism or whatever it might be that a lot of that is puffed up. It isn't necessarily actual realized value.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But it certainly has to be worth it if teams and cities are willing to go through all this to get it. I mean it's got to be worth it. I don't know.

[Matt Abeticola]

Enough people think it is.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I would, I would think. But so just reading through those now clearly in the current climate of where the Bears are at at Soldier Field, this would never be a possibility because they're, they're out from the stadium alone. But if they were to have a domed 75,000 seat stadium, I just, I still can't see the state of Illinois being able to do in arlington heights even 35.

[Matt Abeticola]

Then you start talking about this just the because obviously you can bring things in that you need. If you don't have 750 buses and 5,000 limos, you would have to have them at least temporarily. You don't have to own them and you have to swap out your buses that are more than five years old. I mean obviously this can all get done clearly with enough lead time.

[Dan Bernstein]

But isn't that insane? And that that's just. Those are 40 of the more interesting things he pulled out of a 154 page document. He even said at the at the end of it Joe Pompliano this is Huddle up newsletter he says P.S. the NFL's 154 page Super bowl bid submission document reads a little dry but for those who want to sort through but for those who want to sort through more the details you can add any provided a PDF form of it if you want to read through 154 pages. So it's a Huddle up newsletter if you want to take a look through at it more.

[Matt Abeticola]

I don't, I certainly don't need one here. I've never.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I'm good.

[Matt Abeticola]

I've never wanted one here. I've been to many of them. I Have. I've spent more time at super bowl weeks and sue and post Super Bowls, and I look at one point, and I love New Orleans, but I was there for 11 days straight covering a Super bowl that was too long.

[Dan Bernstein]

So we. We did. We did Jacksonville, Houston, Detroit in, oh, six, and then Miami in 07.

[Matt Abeticola]

I. Well, I covered all of them.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I know, but that's. Those. Those are the four that we did as a show. And then.

[Matt Abeticola]

Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

And then you guys did San Francisco. Tannehill went. I stayed back.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yes. That was fun. That was Terry's last hurrah, and that was that. And, you know, we sort of had that down to us once we could figure out our hotel situations that famously had had issues in so many cities that we went to. But I always. When I was young and wild and free, it was mostly really enjoyable. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Obviously, I had fun at all of them. We had a good time. Detroit, that's when Zampila was up there. So I got to hang out with Z for a bit.

[Matt Abeticola]

Houston, Terry and I went to bet the horses at Northville.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. Yes, you did. Jacksonville was always a good time. But, yeah, like, for us to end for. At least for my time, going in Miami was just great. I mean, being in Miami in February, and that was. That was just outstanding. And then the icing on the cake was the bears.

[Matt Abeticola]

But also, thank me for fixing the hotels there, because, remember, I'm the one that found the extended stay America after Garcia put us in that. That La Quinta with all the cigarette burns and the. Remember that? That was another hotel incident.

[Dan Bernstein]

We're score. Like, with the score executives. The suits. The suits. The people in charge. Were they not allowed to, like, research things through the Internet?

[Matt Abeticola]

I don't know, because I remember, he's like, well, I had. I had to put you there. And I said, there's hotels all over here. He's like, no, they were too expensive. And I. I got in the car, I drove down the street, and I called everybody and I said, come on down here. And.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I.

[Matt Abeticola]

And I got bigger, better, cleaner rooms for half the price.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

And like, well, is anybody have a phone? I. Yeah. Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

There was.

[Dan Bernstein]

There was no research ever done. It was. It was really just. What does it cost? That's all they looked at.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, but I found a cheaper one.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know you did. I know it was better, but isn't that great? Aren't some of those demands just insane?

[Matt Abeticola]

I'm not surprised.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean. Oh, yeah. Not surprised at all. But I absolutely love it.

[Matt Abeticola]

I Guarantee you there are people saying right now the stories about FIFA and the World cup would put that to shame.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

That apparently the, the, the greed of FIFA and, and when they start talking about their executives and what's required there of you have to have the finest caviar and like, clothing them like that gets obscene when you start hearing stories of what the boilerplate contracts are for for FIFA executives and International Olympic Committee. When you talk about the IOC bids and, and the, the graph that goes on there and like it when I'm joking, when I say measuring out their weight in gold, but it's almost that obscene.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, Yeah. I just, I love the one where a year and a half before the super bowl, they send 180 people there for. You got to pay and you got.

[Matt Abeticola]

To pay for everything.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pay for everything.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yep. Wherever they want to eat, you got to pay for it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, you're paying for 180 people to fly, to sleep, to eat, to drink, to travel. Oh, my God, that's amazing.

[Matt Abeticola]

That is. It is pretty amazing when you consider the, you say investment. I don't even really know if it's an investment except in whatever graft and whatever you can get back from whatever shady politicians say, well, if you help me out on this, I'll make sure that we, we earmark you for some, some free stuff down the line.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's all gross, but that's the job. I want, I want to be, I want to be part of that 180 group that just goes to the super bowl city to hang out.

[Matt Abeticola]

We probably know people who are part of it. You know, it probably, there's, there's probably any number of people, and I'm sure they're actually working. I mean, there are people who are actually trying to figure out, you know, the routes of where the buses go and all these things and all.

[Dan Bernstein]

Could you imagine, though, like, being part of that group and it's like, all right, hey, the super bowl is in Jacksonville and we're sending you there a year and a half early to, to go investigate Jacksonville.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, no thanks.

[Dan Bernstein]

Or you're going to go to Detroit. Detroit. Now it's, it's, it's changing and evolving and growing. The downtown area is great now. God, the things that they're, they're doing in Detroit in empty, in empty spaces to draw chefs and restaurants and what, what they'll do to help you build your restaurant out if you want to bring your restaurant into downtown.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, they're making like an incentivized kind of incubator thing?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, then take advantage of it. Go ahead and do it. You got a concept?

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, I've got several concepts on paper for restaurants.

[Matt Abeticola]

All right, well, several. What do you need from me? You need a saucier?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, please. Yeah. Okay. I need you to come work the pasta station.

[Matt Abeticola]

I could do that. Yeah, I could. I could make you an al dente pasta slave over that water.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I got a. I've got a plan of like an all you can eat pizza buffet, and I'd like you to run the buffet. That would be perfect.

[Matt Abeticola]

Put that down. You touch that one, I can do it. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I saw this. I thought. I thought you'd enjoy.

[Matt Abeticola]

Some of the referees whistle.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought you'd enjoy.

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, I have. Yes. And. And I just want to reiterate that a Super bowl around here is just never something I've wanted, and it's still not something I want to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And have you ever watched a Super bowl and thought, wow, golly gee, I need to visit that city?

[Matt Abeticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, me neither.

[Matt Abeticola]

Never.

[Dan Bernstein]

Have you ever had a desire to go to another city to watch the game without working it to go?

[Matt Abeticola]

No, I have a desire to go to another city, just not to. I wouldn't want to go there and watch a football game.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, same.

[Matt Abeticola]

There's a lot of things I'd like to do in plenty of cities that I see, but none of them involve watching a football game. If that's.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is there. Is there a city or a part of the country you've never been to that you want to get to?

[Matt Abeticola]

Oh, all over the world.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, no, no. In the country, not over the world.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, sure.

[Dan Bernstein]

What cities haven't you been to in. In this. In this here country?

[Matt Abeticola]

A lot I've never seen. I'm trying to think of the state. There's a small list of states I haven't visited. But like, I've. I've never seen Big sky country. At some point, I'd love to go trout fishing in. In some of the. These rivers of Montana.

[Dan Bernstein]

That'd be fun.

[Matt Abeticola]

I've never been to Wyoming.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I'd like to do. Do that. I'd like to go.

[Matt Abeticola]

I'd like to see Portland, Oregon.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I've never. I was going to say that I've never been to Portland. You know, I also want to go to Portland, Maine.

[Matt Abeticola]

I do. I would. I've got an invite. I have a standing invite. We have a fan. We have a longtime fan who's become a friend of mine who has given us a standing Invite for where he is In. In Portland, Maine.

[Dan Bernstein]

I would love to go to Portland, Maine, just to eat.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, I would like to go there to do certainly more than that, but it looks absolutely gorgeous and kind of. And they take vacations. They don't have kids either. That's the other thing. I would like to be in a position where I'm not burdened by commitments to other things in my life. And I could just do whatever I want, but I can't do that.

[Dan Bernstein]

You're almost there.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, I'm getting there. I just want to make sure you're almost there. I want to make sure I can still.

[Dan Bernstein]

I have some years. Yeah.

[Matt Abeticola]

The key. But no, I want to see Australia. I want to. There's. I want to. I want to see Moscow. I want to see Prague. I want to go to Scandinavia. There's all kinds of things I want to do. Asia, I haven't been. And members of Asia.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, Scandinavia, I want to go to. I, I, you know, I'm not afraid, but I, I probably would go back to Italy before I go somewhere new.

[Matt Abeticola]

Why?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. Because I love it so much. It may. May not come back.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah, but every. There's so many. Greece, I want to see Athens and.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I want to go to Greece.

[Matt Abeticola]

Come on. Thailand, Korea, there's every. There's so many places I want to go. But in this country, sure. There's all sorts of adventures to be had.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. No, I just. I wasn't aware of your. Your travel within this country, what you've done domestically. Because there's still a lot. A lot of places I want to go that I haven't been to. I'd like to go to New Mexico, go to Albuquerque, run into Pavia.

[Matt Abeticola]

Boys, be careful. The stuff we heard about Albuquerque, it sounds like another.

[Dan Bernstein]

Certain parts I want to avoid, for sure. But yeah, the. The Northwest, I've never been to. Like to do that.

[Matt Abeticola]

I've been. See, I've been to Salt Lake. I've spent a lot of time.

[Dan Bernstein]

But you did free. It was all work, though.

[Matt Abeticola]

La, San Francisco, did that stuff.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. You've been to. You've been to wine country, right?

[Matt Abeticola]

Yep. Been to Sonoma, Napa. It's fun. There's all sorts of stuff. Yeah, but. But not because of a Super Bowl.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I'm gonna go.

[Matt Abeticola]

I want to go for the opposite.

[Dan Bernstein]

Of a Super bowl when there's less people there.

[Matt Abeticola]

Right. When it's. It's. It's less expensive, there's fewer people, it's quieter, It's More peaceful. Yeah. And then you can do it on your terms, you know?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I just. I loved the demands of the NFL. Just amazing. Yeah. I just don't know how it's beneficial. I would love to really know how it's beneficial for a city to have.

[Matt Abeticola]

One, because you can do all kinds of political favors. I guess it's got to be what it is. And especially if you want to increase your own personal profile, it sounds like a great way for, you know, take advantage of a lot of ambitious people. I'm just. I'm not quite sure if you ever, ever, ever actually get the bang for your buck.

[Dan Bernstein]

I would say no without knowing fully, and I've done that before. Yeah, I would say no. I don't know how you could. I mean, the. The NFL takes everything. Everything that profit wise, they take it all.

[Matt Abeticola]

I think it would depend on what. What your city needs, what the citizens of your city need. If it would mean you're taking away from healthcare, education and everything, you know, transportation. Right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Which is why it would never happen here in Illinois.

[Matt Abeticola]

Well, it's not. And that's not a bad thing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I agree.

[Matt Abeticola]

Yeah. Because when you say that that would never happen here because this place just doesn't. No, it's. That. That's not an insult.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, it's not. I'm not trying to denigrate the name of the great name of the city of Chicago or the state of Illinois.

[Matt Abeticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Not at all. All right, so tomorrow on DBU, we are doing our top 10 list because it's Friday as well as Friday Feedback Friday. And our top 10 list tomorrow are our 10 most memorable, like, championship moments. Things that we've witnessed, experienced in our life.

[Matt Abeticola]

Sports championship experiences. Yes. That involved us actually being in a place not just like, oh, I saw this on tv, but it can be something you've seen on TV if there was an experience connected to it. Yes. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, yeah. So we'll do that for top 10 tomorrow. Also want to thank a number, a great number of listeners, the. The most listeners ever who have purchased super bowl squares for Jackson's slammers baseball team for our Pigeon Forge trip. A lot of people got in on the squares, so I really appreciate that. So that was really cool.

[Matt Abeticola]

That's so cool. You. Oh, you guys are going to have, like, garment bags now and all the embroidered stuff. I don't know if it's gonna help you play better, but you guys might have.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no. So Trip Hank went to Pigeon Forge last year and came back with the Cal ripping experience. Bag and yeah, all the, all the fun stuff with it. So thank you to all the listeners who did get squares. They're putting the the numbers on the sheet and I'll get that out to you once I receive that back. But thank you for doing that. Means a lot. Really appreciate it. And then we have tomorrow's Friday for forward progress. We'll get more into the actual game itself as well. And then we'll have DBU picks tomorrow on dbu. So I'm sure we'll look at some of the prop bets, too. That'll be a fun segment to talk about as well.

[Matt Abeticola]

Can't wait. That's going to do it for today's Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast covering the bears and the NFL and this Super Bowl. On 312 sports forward progress is stopped.

[Dan Bernstein]

Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 312 Sports.