What does the Bears 2-2 record really indicate?

Summary

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Forward Progress - A Chicago Bears Podcast

Episode: What does the Bears’ 2-2 record really indicate?

Date: October 6, 2025
Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Matt Abbatacola

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Episode Overview

This episode blends analytic breakdown with classic Bears fan banter, centered on a deceptively revealing question: What does the Bears’ 2-2 record actually mean? Dan and Matt chart a winding course through a low-key NFL weekend, using the state of the broader league as a jumping-off point. Through commentary on wobbly contenders, head-scratching losses, and the uniquely "blobby" (i.e., parity-driven) 2025 NFL standings, they revisit the Bears’ shaky first month and weigh the team’s progress, problems, and prospects.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The “Blob” State of the NFL (01:02-07:06)

• Both hosts lamented a subdued NFL weekend, marked by parity and absence of undefeated teams after Week 5—a rarity since 2014.
• Dan: “There were teams actively declaring their residency in the Blob.” (01:22)

Insights:

• The parity makes it tough to definitively evaluate any team, Bears included.
• Wild outcomes and officiating oddities colored even the marquee matchups.

2. Reviewing the League’s Big (and Bizarre) Moments (07:06-11:14)

• Incident summaries, including weekend upsets (Eagles’ surprise loss, Cardinals-Titans mess), and the viral moment of Mike Tirico narrating a fan running up the stadium stairs.
• Off-the-field: Mark Sanchez’s legal trouble got darkly humorous treatment (“This is worse than what Marv Albert went through back in the day.” – Dan, 06:37)

Quotes:

• Matt on game quality: “Yeah, it was a bad weekend of football. There weren’t a whole lot of good games to watch.” (01:22)

3. Coaching Hot Seats (10:58-13:29)

• Speculation about which NFL coach will be fired first, with focus on teams like the Titans, Giants, and Saints.
• Nod to how media attention (particularly in New York) can worsen pressure.

Quotes:

• Dan: “He’s called a lot of attention to him. First of all, he’s in New York. And second of all, he’s so demonstrative on the sidelines. And they’re really bad.” (12:00)

4. What Does a 2-2 Record Mean for the Bears? (13:29-19:22)

• Main theme: Should fans change their perception of early Bears wins/losses as new evidence about opponents comes in?
  • Dan: “What if [the Raiders] are awful? Do we change the way we think about this?” (13:56)
• The hosts illustrate “illogical conclusions from small sample sizes”—classic Bears talk-radio behavior.
• The pitfalls of trying to judge the Bears’ ceiling/floor amid NFL uncertainty.

Schedule Breakdown:

• They examine remaining Bears games, eyeing potential wins vs. Giants, Steelers, and pondering tough games against the Browns, Eagles, Bengals.

Notable stat:
“Justin Fields is 0–26 when opponents score 21 or more. Yeah, I mean, he doesn’t play defense.” – Matt (15:18)

5. Bears’ Roster Watch: Offensive Line, Injuries, and The Next Move (19:22-21:33)

• The hosts analyze signs pointing to rookie Theo Benedict starting at left tackle, though they point out surprise moves (e.g., shifting Darnell Wright to the left) are still possible.
• Weekly rhythm, return of key injured players, and Monday Night Football’s impact on prep all factor in.
• Dan: “I’ve noticed this creeping into regular Bears coverage... all signs lead to... Theo Benedict as the new starting left tackle.” (17:46)
• Matt: “If you do it [move Wright], you have to do it now—this week going into Monday night.” (18:42)

6. NFL Oddities: The Plague of Premature Touchdown Celebrations (21:33-26:08)

• Frustration over players dropping the ball before truly crossing the goal line surfaces again, with comparisons to similar lapses in football and other sports.
• Matt recounts a youth football moment mirroring the NFL’s gaffe—pointing to how not finishing can be a plague at every level.
• “Demercado even sounds like demarcation... your Demercado. Cross the plane, cross the line!” – Dan (21:39)

7. Broader NFL Injury Trends & Grass vs. Turf (39:35-44:44)

• Matt wonders aloud: “Are there more injuries this year—especially to the offensive line? Or are we just noticing more because of key players?”
• Dan references a theory: Modern practice restrictions mean OL injuries have a bigger impact—the lines are less able to “plug and play” backups than before (40:47).
• Discussion of ongoing debates about stadium surfaces, Bears’ switch to Bermuda grass, and injury protocols.
• “Maybe what constitutes an injury, rather than just being hurt, has changed. Maybe everyone’s gotten smarter about what it takes to recover...” – Dan (43:30)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On NFL Parity:
  “There were teams actively declaring their residency in The Blob.” – Dan (01:22)
• On the Bears’ Place:
  “That’s why all roads should lead back to the Bears here… really the point.” – Dan (13:58)
• On Dropping The Ball Early:
  “It’s so hard to score a touchdown in the NFL… and it doesn’t even look cool [to drop it before the end zone].” – Dan (24:35)
• On Changing NFL Culture:
  “I’m not saying anybody’s gotten softer. I’m just saying people have maybe gotten smarter about recovery…” – Dan (43:30)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• NFL Weekend Recap, parity talk: 01:02–07:06
• Weirdest weekend moments (Tirico, Sanchez): 03:04–07:06
• Coaching hot seat speculation: 10:58–13:29
• Evaluating the Bears’ 2-2 start & future schedule: 13:29–19:22
• Bears’ roster talk & offensive line speculation: 17:46–19:22
• Premature celebrations & sports parallels: 21:33–26:08
• Broader NFL injury trends: 39:35–44:44
• Show closing / Listener interaction / Bears canon gags: 47:15–48:52

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Tone, Style & The Chicago Way

• In true Chicago sports talk fashion, the show fluctuates between earnest analysis and wry, self-deprecating humor.
• Banter, analogies, and references to their own youth leagues—and a classic gummy “raisin” petting zoo anecdote—bring levity.
• The camaraderie is obvious: “If that catches [Matt’s ‘waiter’s vest’ workout gag], I’ll split the profits with you.” – Matt (35:51)
• They circle back to the Bears, NFL culture writ large, and local food recommendations, painting a picture both diehards and casuals can enjoy.

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Final Takeaways

• The Bears are 2-2, but context is everything: the 2-2 record doesn’t say as much about the team as fans might want.
• With the “Blob” nature of the league this season, measuring real progress is trickier than ever.
• The next few weeks—especially with injury returns and O-line shakeups—should offer a truer glimpse of who the Bears (and their opponents) really are.

"All roads should lead back to the Bears." This week, it’s still unclear exactly where those roads go.

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Transcript

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[B]

Forward Progr, a Chicago Bears podcast. I'm Dan Bernstein, that is Matt Abaticola. And the Bears were off this weekend, kind of a blah, blah NFL weekend. This was a. There were, there were teams actively declaring their residency in the Blob.

[A]

Yeah, it was a bad weekend of football. There weren't a whole lot of good games to watch. There was a lot of upsets. Dan, you go back to 2014 is the last time that you didn't have an undefeated team after week five.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

That just means more blob.

[B]

I just think so.

[A]

Bigger blob.

[B]

Or it gives you because there's an extra game now. Maybe it gives you more time to sort out some of this stuff. But I think we have a pretty good idea of a typically competitive NFL each week. And that was underlined by some strange outcomes on a I, I kept looking at the schedule and I kept thinking, all right, let me find at least a couple games I'm excited for. And I will say that last night's game, I gave it every chance because I had the baseball on. I'm like, you know what? It was low scoring at first, and then I'm like, okay, this isn't great. It's been full of flags. It was a competitive game. The game itself was jumpy just because of all the flag. Too much Sean, Hockey. And look, you know, I love you.

[A]

Love yourself some hockey.

[B]

I love his dad. And Sean is, you know, he's not quite as thickly built as his father, but he speaks in these complete sentences and he also has, it's not really snark, but he talks like he's talking to somebody. He has a conversational way of delivering some of his adjudications. And I believe he's not a lawyer. He's a financial planner, I think so. He doesn't have the same sort of. Of courtroom gravitas as his father, but I, I like his work. I like the cut of a jib of a young Sean Hockey.

[A]

Yeah. Drake made 22 of 30 last night. 273 yards. Averages 9.1 a completion yesterday.

[B]

Playmaker man. I don't know if he's inspired by Josh Allen being on the other side of things, but it wasn't Allen that he necessarily reminded me of. A couple times it was Roethlisberger. That were where Drake May was having guys drink.

[A]

That's not a bad comp. Yeah.

[B]

Like it was. He looked more Roethlisberger to me because he's a big strapping man who can move better than you think. And he doesn't care if somebody is trying to tackle him. He'll just kind of hold him off and make a play. That's interesting. It's like he doesn't sort of get activated until he like yards after contact. You don't really care about a quarterback usually, but he's, he's. He's tough to bring down and that was. Ended up being a really good game if you could sit through all the flags. I also liked the fact that Mike Tirico found his inner Kevin Harlan a little bit. Did you see after the kick and a guy in a Mike Milano jersey caught the ball.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like he realized I've got a football or did somebody hand it to me? He got up and started running.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And he did play by play for it. There goes up the stairs with Josh Allen in front of him.

[A]

Was that the Detroit game? And that guy's drunk. Look at him.

[B]

That man's drunk. Yes.

[A]

Okay. That man grab him. Wasn't Sanchez. No.

[B]

That different play. I would love for somebody to do the play by play of that video.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

By the way, since we recorded Dan Bernstein unfiltered, if you're just joining us, they've upgraded the charge against Sanchez to a felony.

[A]

Yeah. That's huge.

[B]

Well, that's probably for. They'll plead it out. Obviously. I don't know if he's going to see any jail time, but it was now felony battery. That could be one to six years on that charge. I don't think he'll face that charge.

[A]

Does that increase the payment amount? Maybe if they settle and this guy gets Some kind of money.

[B]

Oh, when there is. When there's a civil.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know. I think the injury is the injury. This is a criminal charge per Indiana law.

[A]

Why do you think he wants any jail time?

[B]

First offense. Okay. I don't think it's famous guy. Super unlikely money. Right. He can afford lawyers who will make the case. And my guess is before it even gets to that point, as part of the plea deal he will go to some rehabilitation or like this is. I don't think he'll ever see jail. I just don't. Unless there are previous offenses in there. I think this is bad night. Guy had a really, really, really bad night. And I do think however it's going to hit him in the pocketbook.

[A]

Oh, huge. From Fox for sure.

[B]

No, I think from a civil settlement or a civil loss, he's going to be on the hook for hurting this guy.

[A]

Yeah. I just, I don't see any way that Fox keeps him around. Not after this. I just don't. I really don't. Even if it's, you know, he's got an issue, he's gonna go away. He's in a work on himself, take care of some things.

[B]

It really depends if he's got somebody there who believes in him and they want and they think he's an important asset and they don't think that if he goes away for a while there's gonna be a downside if he's out of sight, out of mind comes back. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. But this is worse than like what Marv Albert went through back in the day.

[A]

He was biting people.

[B]

Right, Right. But it was consensual.

[A]

Yeah. This wasn't consensual. The guy wasn't like, yeah, good, punch me in the face.

[B]

Yeah, right. They said it cut him so bad that it like it went through his cheek and cut his tongue.

[A]

Yeah, there was a really, really bad. The family posted a photo. They blacked out a little bit of his face. But they saw the injury and it's, it's really bad gash on his cheek.

[B]

Yeah. That's the really the NFL story that is happening today because it was, it was kind of an eh, weekend. I really, I picked the right weekend to go out watch to leave town.

[A]

Picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue though.

[B]

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[A]

You mean my brother?

[B]

Yeah, your older brother. But is that because although you're older.

[A]

I'm older than he is.

[B]

You're older than he is. But is that because he's so expressive or.

[A]

I don't know. I just think we're very handsome and that Cameron wants to show us. Like I'm always on the camera here at 312 Sports.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

They keep camera won't get off me.

[B]

They loved showing Mike Vrabel over and over and over again. Much more than his counterpart McDermott last night. But hey, if he merits that, okay. But that was. We had some of these signature wins, right? Statement wins.

[A]

Yes. Count the Denver over Eagles.

[B]

Yeah. I think that is actually what. What Jim Nance said.

[A]

Didn't he make one of these game changing plays?

[B]

Wentz second and five. That's Fox. Yeah. This is Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma.

[A]

The route is good. This is the Vikings Browns game. Denzel Ward was baiting him. He was baiting Carson Wentz thinking he could never make that throw. Going right over the top of him for the beautiful catch. And the touchdown for the Vikings. What a play. What cost me my pick. A nice throw.

[B]

This was the touchdown.

[A]

How good of a throw that was. That is big league. Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes, those are the ones that take chances on that type of throw. And put a beautiful touch over the defender for the touchdown. They pull off a miracle. They got one shot at it. No pressure on the quarterback. It's got time to heave it.

[B]

There's a whole pack of people there and it's incomplete.

[A]

And there's no flag. They weren't football players have their signature people. The 12 game home win streak is over. There are the two wide outs in.

[B]

His hands for a second.

[A]

Huanga at the end, number nine came in to make sure that ball got out of there, out of the pack. Look at the two wideouts side by side. Smith and Brown. They've wanted the football more often. They both made a play on it. At the very end of this one.

[B]

The long snapper, the kick from slay is good.

[A]

How Tennessee was able to climb back in this football game when they look dead in the water, just unbelievable. So that's the, the final kick there for the, for the Titans with that 22, 21 win. Romo and Nance, they were, they were running out of gas at the end of that broadcast.

[B]

Yeah, Nance sounds.

[A]

I think he. I don't know if he was sick or he was dealing with something, but.

[B]

He was out drinking with Mark Sanchez.

[A]

Not Fitness Friends. Good lord, that's my guy. By the way.

[B]

He's not Fitness Friends. He's just hello, Friends.

[A]

Yeah, he's. Hello, Friends.

[B]

Fitness Friends was Roger Clemens's wife.

[A]

Hello, Fitness Friends.

[B]

Hello, Fitness Friends. Your HGH in here.

[A]

And then that first highlight, that was the Vikings Browns game on CBS with Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma, who I think is. Is really growing into a really, really strong area. Yeah, he's good in the NFL, I think. I think he's great. I think he's great.

[B]

If we start looking at first coach fired.

[A]

I'm still going to say it's.

[B]

Your Titans guy, but I think it's Brian Callahan, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that he's still first coach because it was Mike McDaniel and then they got off the mat with a surprisingly inspired performance.

[A]

But they're still sitting at one loss yesterday. Yeah.

[B]

Pete Carroll's not going to get fired at 1 and 4. No, Kevin Stefanski is not going to get fired. John Harbaugh is not going to get fired.

[A]

No, because the Browns, they're. Now, they're. Their defense is pretty good. That front seven is pretty good. And they're going to keep teams from scoring a lot of points. Vikings again got that really stupid touchdown late in the game yesterday.

[B]

Brian Dabel is not going to get fired. Right.

[A]

So what are you thinking? If it's not. If it's not Callahan Auto Parts, who is it?

[B]

And it's not going to be Kellen Moore, who's in his first year in a rebuild with the Saints. So we have 105 team.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I don't think Aaron Glenn's getting fired.

[A]

I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think he is, but.

[B]

He'S called a lot of attention to him. First of all, he's in New York.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And second of all, he's so demonstrative on the sidelines. And they're really bad. They're really bad.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's not good. But I mean, they have some pieces there. I don't know. Maybe he does. Maybe New York is just like, I'd screw it.

[B]

You know, Maybe they just say, cut your losses.

[A]

Yeah, cut your losses.

[B]

Hey, look, we know if one of Woody Johnson's 16 or 17 year old grandkids shows up and says, hey, I saw on TikTok that you're. If you fire your coach.

[A]

Oh, yeah, because that was in draft room.

[B]

What are they Brick and stick? Aren't they twins?

[A]

That's a morning show. Aren't they in Texas?

[B]

Smoke and stack?

[A]

The brick and the stick. No.

[B]

Who are they?

[A]

Do country. What did we see was the bucket and the mop or something? The bucket and Jimbo.

[B]

Well, it was Steve O. In the bucket, which. Yeah, Layla and I use that all the time. We always said that anytime we were slipping into a Stevo in the bucket.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[B]

Yeah, because that was in Jacksonville. No, it was Houston.

[A]

It was Houston because you need a nickname and inanimate object to be a morning show.

[B]

But they had a van.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wrapped.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And the picture of him is like, he's wearing his flannel shirt and he's making a face like, oh, I don't.

[A]

Know if that was Steve O. In the bucket. You know, that was Steve O. Or the bucket.

[B]

I don't know. It was like, like Marky Mark and the ratchet set. You know, it was. It was always something ridiculous.

[A]

What else happened yesterday? So, yeah, Kellen Moore gets a win, 2614 over the Giants. The Colts just demolished the Raiders 40 to 6.

[B]

Okay. And I have not been a Colts believer.

[A]

I haven't either. I just. Because it's, It's. I just don't believe in the quarterback.

[B]

At some point you got to concede that they're good.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

And I don't know that I'm ready to do it yet. And before we get into some of the Bears stuff.

[A]

Yeah. Because a lot of this plays into.

[B]

That's why all roads should lead back to the Bears here on Forward, a Chicago Bears podcast. That's really the point. And we were saying, hey, great win over the Raiders. You go on the road, you get the win. And now I'm thinking, what if they're awful? Do we change the way we think about this? So this is the point of this program where we make illogical. We draw illogical conclusions based on a small sample of opponent performance. And it's hard with the Vikings because McCarthy isn't there. He's dealing with a high ankle sprain.

[A]

And even if he is there, you don't really know what they are.

[B]

All right, we know Detroit's good.

[A]

He had one good quarter.

[B]

We know Detroit's good.

[A]

Detroit. Okay. For me, Detroit is consistently outside of that first game against the Packers. They have been the best team in their other four games. And for me, they're at the top of the league and the gap between them and that second tier of teams is pretty significant in my world. In my opinion here, after five weeks.

[B]

Yeah, I think if the Colts and The Lions played 10 times right now, Lions wins. The Lions wins. I was going to say. I was going to say seven or eight.

[A]

Oh, I think they win them all.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I just think they're. They're that good of a team.

[B]

Okay. Dallas is. What are they.

[A]

They win yesterday over the, over the Jets.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So they still give up a lot of points. And then now Justin Fields is. Oh, and 26 when opponents scored 21 or more. Yeah, I mean, he doesn't play defense.

[B]

But I'm just saying. Yeah.

[A]

All right, so hang on a second here. Bears commanders. Then you have which I still think that's commander's win. Bears, Ravens, I mean, they got destroyed.

[B]

I know.

[A]

We don't know how healthy they're going to be.

[B]

Well, they have their teams out. I know, but they're going to get guys back, right?

[A]

If they get guys back, they should win that game. Yes.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But it looks different with all those injuries.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Bears, Giants. That's a game at Soldier Field. The Bears win. The Bears could win, should win. Bear, Steelers. And that's at home Aaron Rodgers.

[B]

I like, I say you got to get to 8 and 9 somehow.

[A]

You got Packers a couple of times. You got the Lions again. You got the Browns on the schedule, the Eagles, the Bengals, which, you know, I mean Jake, Jake Browning, you know, he, you don't want him anytime leading your team in rushing. I think he led the Bengals in rushing yesterday. Had three touchdowns. Three interceptions as well, too. I don't think they're. They're going to be as bad by the time the Bears get around to playing the Bengals. That's going to be a better looking offense for Jake Browning.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm not saying I would take the guy in a draft or want him quarterback on my team. They're not going to be as bad.

[B]

As you think now, are the Bears. They're not taking tomorrow off like.

[A]

No, I think, I think they had, they had the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then it's Monday straight through.

[B]

Yeah, I think today straight through. I think they're back and we're going to see now. And what. Obviously what I'm waiting to see is how soon they make an announcement about the offensive line. Because I've been noticing this creeping in to the regular Bears coverage. It's a weird time that you obviously have feature stuff that they want to run. A lot of this reads like training camp coverage at the moment where say, well, Caleb Williams has to build on what he does well and get rid of what he does poorly. Like it really is no different than some of the training camp or off season stuff into previewing this season because it's hard. And even looking back through a lot of my notes here, you know what conclusions to draw for where they are and good luck looking back through this stuff.

[A]

Beautiful mind. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, right. It seems to be like Theo Benedict is your left tackle. That's what I've noticed creeping in that all signs lead to. Everybody's couching it. Nobody's reporting it because it hasn't been announced yet. But I haven't seen anybody deviating. Anybody on the beat deviating from the conventional wisdom of it looks like Theo Benedict is going to be the new starting left tackle. So I'm going off of that. I haven't heard anything otherwise. So I guess it takes out the possibility, the, the outside the box possibility was that given an extra week, if you are going to try Darnell right at left, this is when you do it. And maybe we're wrong. Maybe. Maybe Ben Johnson walks up to a microphone today and announces that they're completely revamping everything and they're going to try him and left from here on in. And I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, but if, yeah, if you do it, if that's where their. Their thinking is, then you have to do it now.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You do it this week going into Monday night. Monday Night Football and the Commanders. That's where. But how does the week progress? You know, that could be the plan right now. Maybe that's the planet Hallis hall. And then you get a couple practices in and guys aren't practicing the way they need to. How long of a leash is there going to be? Is it all right, we're going to try out for this game. Let's have a good week of practice. Or is it. Let's see what you do this week going into the game.

[B]

And also who's back based on potential roster activation because we know that we had the. The IR guys and. Or Kyler Gordon, he should be back.

[A]

Should be back Monday. Yep.

[B]

Eamon Obong Bemega, Austin Booker, Grady Jarrett should be back. Travis Homer, whatever that does for you. I never really understood that either. So as the. And it's a weird week because it's Monday Night Football too.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I would have given them maybe an extra.

[A]

Maybe there is. I don't, I don't. I'll just see if I can check it out here. But I, I thought it was the four days off, and then they're. They're back at it, so who knows?

[B]

Yeah, I'll be interested. So here's something else we have to bring up. And I. And I know you saw this. Amari Dmercado. This is only two weeks removed from it being done before. Was it Otto Nye Mitchell that dropped a ball before the end zone?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Jesus. There was a bear that did this years ago.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The. You have the touchdown and you simply on purpose let go of the ball before going into the end zone. Amari Dmercado did that just as Legerius Sneed was making up the stagger at the goal line. So he. It was a fumble. He didn't realize it was a fumble because DeMarco was celebrating what he thought was a touchdown. But it was. It was Indianapolis's Otto Nye Mitchell did that. Oh, just last week, not two weeks ago. I don't know what coaches have to say last week. I don't know what coaches have to say or do. And I don't get it. I don't get the reasoning. I don't get, even amongst your peers, why you even cut it close. Why? Why? Why? And I'm trying to think, are there other sports where anything like this is done?

[A]

In baseball, you don't run short of the bag and turn off.

[B]

Or in baseball, is it like, do you look cool if you hit a home run and then you don't step on home plate? Do you look cool in basketball if you go up for a dunk and miss on purpose? Yeah.

[A]

I don't, I don't get. If there was only a line that demarcated where the end zone started, guys would, maybe they wouldn't do that. They would.

[B]

Demarcado even sounds like demarcation. It probably means of the market, but it sounds like you should know that a demarcation. Your demarcado. Cross the plane, cross the line. Like, is there a comp for this? Is there a comp for. You haven't accomplished what you're trying to accomplish. But Merkel's boner.

[A]

No, because it's the most Significant play that can happen in a football game.

[B]

In a sport, it's worth six points. Even you stepping on home plate, if you had a grand slam, those three other runs count.

[A]

I mean, do you go up for a dunk and then you get there and then you just like release the ball? So just falls.

[B]

But even that is one possession in NBA game points that comes out in the wash. Yeah. This is an NFL touchdown.

[A]

You know, it's funny because it happened in our 12U game yesterday against. We're playing North Shore and. Or north side, and they're running back on their first offensive drive. Gets. He gets open and gets to the one yard line. And I see him, he kind of starts doing a little dance and drops the ball at the one yard line. And it's. It's a free ball. And of course, you know, our kids don't play through the whistle, so they don't pick it up. But one of their offensive linemen jumps on it and then tries to advance it, which he can't because he's. Because of his weight class. He's a striper. You can't advance the football. But it's their ball there at the one yard line, first down and goal. But it's a free ball to sitting there. We're all on the sidelines like, get the ball, get the ball, get the ball. Because it's just sitting there. I don't know what he was thinking.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But they're not professionals watching an NFL player dance prematurely or celebrate before the end zone. The coaches are screaming, you run to the fence.

[B]

Now.

[A]

The fence is, you know, 15 mile past behind. Behind the. Yeah. No, it's not like a force gun type of thing.

[B]

Practice though. They have NFL guys running all the way through.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Run through the end zone.

[A]

I don't know if you. Did you see that? The wide receiver from Oklahoma, Keontas Lewis, first drive of the Oklahoma game is Saturday. He's going for a pass that's a little bit over his head in the end zone. Goes through. Completes the run through the end zone. And there's a brick wall at Norman about, I don't know, maybe 10 yards.

[B]

Like the games at Wrigley.

[A]

But dude, he. And he hit and he was on the field. They took him off on a stretcher. He's doing okay. I mean, like his. Like he's.

[B]

A bad guy.

[A]

Yeah, you are.

[B]

Why are you somebody running into a brick wall under their own power?

[A]

And he hit it, hit it hard. I mean, going for the ball, but he's apparently fine. Movement in his arms and legs. And he says he feels fine and he's coherent. And you did all the.

[B]

Yeah, it would have been bad if I'm laughing at, like. And he died right there after, right? Yeah.

[A]

But I'm just wondering, like, you know, why is it so close to the end zone? But it's like, run through that. I. Yeah. I don't.

[B]

The wall.

[A]

I don't think there's a. There's a comfort in sports.

[B]

You can't. Or even outside of sports.

[A]

Like I said, it's. It's so hard to score a touchdown in the NFL. And it's like you get there and you're like, why?

[B]

What. What in your brain says, like, it doesn't even look cool. Like, is that so?

[A]

I don't know. I don't get it.

[B]

I don't need this ball. Get it off of me.

[A]

I just don't understand.

[B]

What do you.

[A]

I mean, it's something you dream about, about scoring a touchdown. In the end, like, you want to score a touchdown and you have the opportunity and you. You fall and you just let go of the ball short of the end zone.

[B]

Is cutting it close cool?

[A]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. I mean, obviously, I'll never be in that situation to potentially drop a ball short of the end zone, but I don't understand, like, get in the end zone. I don't know. But there is no comp in sports. I mean, you're like a NASCAR driver and you just, like, you turn left at the. At the.

[B]

At the right, the finish line.

[A]

Finish line, and just drive into the infield.

[B]

I don't need this. I'm not going to go.

[A]

I'm not going to cross.

[B]

I don't need the win.

[A]

I don't know. Golf. You deliberately leave it short or you put it pass on purpose.

[B]

Fuck this win. It's been a long four days. Well, you know, he's just looking cool.

[A]

Yeah. I don't.

[B]

Off the green.

[A]

Yeah. There's nothing else there. I don't know. In baseball, you want to catch it, but you deliberately drop it. I got it. Forget it.

[B]

I don't want to catch that one. I'm too cool to catch it.

[A]

I don't know. There is no comp.

[B]

Especially something that's worth it. That. No, it's a touchdown.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not just a run or a basket or a goal. In hockey, maybe it is similar to a goal in Hockey.

[A]

I mean, potential, potential final point of a Wimbledon match and you're gonna, you're gonna win and just hit it that way. You hit it out on purpose or don't, don't even swing. You're like, I don't need to hit this ball back. I'm good.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. I don't understand.

[B]

It's happened two weeks in a row at the highest level.

[A]

So lots of weird things, repetitive oddities. In the NFL, we had the couple weeks ago, all the blocked field goal attempts. Yeah. It's just, it's so bizarre.

[B]

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[A]

Oh, do they really?

[B]

Oh, it's a huge wooden cross that has like holes in it for like drink holders in it.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

They present you with this cross yeah. So that's when you go to beer church. You're going to beer church. So do this. It's private, it's exclusive. Friends, family, the office. The ultimate party upgrade. And it's year round too, because of their awesome heated patio. So book now, beerchurchbrewing.com and let the pizza party begin. It is beer church in beautiful New Buffalo, Michigan. You've probably driven by it a million times. More [e-mail] yeah, I think we're gonna have to go.

[A]

We're trying to think of something to do this, this fall for like a. Like a quick little weekend getaway.

[B]

Oh, especially when the leaves are at peak.

[A]

That's what we're thinking. We were talking about maybe Door county, but maybe just do an Airbnb get out to New Buffalo again because we did it a couple of years ago too, so. Because I. I need to go to beer church.

[B]

Yeah, you do. October is one of my favorite months in. In the Chicagoland area.

[A]

Yeah. As soon as the temperatures get to normal, they will. Yeah, I know. I think we're getting the 60s for, like, highs, as we did. We did, you know, fall stuff, like fall festivities on Saturday. We took the boys and went to studies and went to Stotty's farm, where's. I don't know where, like McHenry.

[B]

Okay. We've done Didier Farms was always our go to.

[A]

Yeah, we do that.

[B]

And then there's Bankston's, is the famous giant one with. Yeah, that's like an amusement park.

[A]

Yeah. Stotty's is a good time. They got all the stuff. But it was 90 degrees on Saturday or Friday. We went because there was no school. Yeah, the kids were off of school Thursday, Friday. So it actually timed out well with your. With your trip and your time away.

[B]

We always make jokes and Zoe always goes, oh, got this story again because when she was 2 or 3, we were at Didier Farms. This is pre Jason. So when we still sort of. With one kid, everything's relatively normal. And we were in the.

[A]

You still care about what they do and what they eat and where they're at. You care about them still parenting.

[B]

So we were in the petting zoo and Zoe's collecting something in the petting zoo.

[A]

Oh, I remember this.

[B]

And I'm kind of walking over there and Zoe, what is going on? She holds her hand up, she goes, raisins.

[A]

I thought it was chocolate chips with raisins.

[B]

Yeah. She goes, raisins.

[A]

No.

[B]

I said, no, they're not.

[A]

Not raisins.

[B]

And we're gonna go to the hand sanitizer station. These are good raisins too. Daddy, you didn't eat any of those, did you? No. Okay. All right, well, let's. We're gonna get you a cinnamon donut, a cinnamon apple donut. And after we sanitize your hands.

[A]

Yeah, Stadi's. We get their. Their donuts are great. On the way out. And I actually got a. At the checkout, the baker had just put out a whole tray of focaccia, but he did it with sourdough.

[B]

Dude, I just had sourdough focaccia for the first time two nights ago.

[A]

Okay, so did I.

[B]

At a restaurant in the warehouse district of New Orleans called Sophia.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's phenomenal.

[A]

Yeah. It was so good.

[B]

And I tried it. So they sat down. We got the whipped ricotta. They do this homemade, super rich whipped ricotta with a tiny bit, like, a drizzle of honey on it. Sounds good. And some black pepper. And they brought out this focaccia. And I took a couple. I'm like, am I crazy, or is this insanely good? And we ordered another round of just the. And it was sourdough.

[A]

Sourdough focaccia.

[B]

It was incredible.

[A]

Yeah. So we're checking out, and there was a rolling cart, and the guy just had put it out. And so. Yeah. And I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh, wow, this looks great. And he's like, yeah, I just made those. He goes, that's the focaccia. And it was just mozzarella with a real basic tomato sauce on. It was great. And he goes, yeah, but I did it with the sourdough bread instead. I'm like, all right, well, I'm gonna try one of these. And I took a piece out in the car. It was.

[B]

Oh, my God. This is one of those Italian meals where super simple and every next bite was incredible. They had a squid ink fettuccine with a Calabrian chili oil, and shrimp that were, like, just done, not over, like, just popped.

[A]

They weren't radioactive shrimp.

[B]

They were not as far as I know.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then have you ever seen a pasta shape called rada? Radiator. Radiatore.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

They look like little radiators.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And the texture is so interesting. And it was their a la vodka sauce, but it was all about the texture of these homemade pastas.

[A]

And what's this place called?

[B]

Sofia in New Orleans?

[A]

It was so sourdough focaccia.

[B]

Oh, my God. Everything we ate was Great. And the broccoli, Rob, over a warm. Like a Caesar type. It was almost like a Caesar dressing, but it was warm, covered in parmigiano. Reggiano. Oh, but it was. It was parboiled, then grilled. Incredible.

[A]

And what doesn't our. Our pizza place, New York, that we love. The one you got me on Norms. Don't they do sourdough?

[B]

Yep. Norms is a sourdough crust.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Correct. That's.

[A]

That might be the thing to figure.

[B]

Out because it's the. The acid. It just changes everything. It makes. It makes everything, like, light up.

[A]

So it sounds like you had some good food. Although one of the. One of our listeners asked for a live stream of you in the tub.

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

Fried chicken.

[B]

I didn't eat it in the tub. I ate it right there at Daisy Mays and.

[A]

But nude at the table.

[B]

Sir, what are you doing? I'm good.

[A]

That was Beth.

[B]

Don't worry about it.

[A]

What are you doing?

[B]

Don't worry about it. All good. Oh, yeah. I ate too much, but I walked a lot. And there was a gym, and I did work out every single day. They had a hot tub on the roof. Really hot hot tub on the roof. Nice of the hotel.

[A]

I like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What are you doing for your workouts now? Are you still staring at old man's junk or.

[B]

No. After Covid, I didn't go back to the gym. So I've been doing everything at home with. Because I have a bike and a treadmill at home. I've got free weights at home. And then I've been doing plyometrics.

[A]

You have three weights. What do they weigh?

[B]

I've been doing a lot of plyometric stuff. A lot. Using my own body weight and because it's easier on my joints.

[A]

Well, you're getting older now that I'm an old.

[B]

Rather than just picking.

[A]

You are an old.

[B]

I am an old. But no, it's been really good. Obviously. You have push ups and crunches and Bulgarian split squats.

[A]

Yeah, love those. Are those the one leg things? What do you do?

[B]

Yeah, it's a split and then I carry. Was it 2020 and like 35 pounds in each hand. And then do the Bulgarian split squat.

[A]

And that was with your. With or without your weighted vest?

[B]

35 in each hand.

[A]

Yeah. That's a lot. 25 with or without your weighted vest?

[B]

Without the weighted vest. That is. God, I see so many.

[A]

Yeah. So I started this workout last week. This is new. And I. I wear a waiter's vest and it's not. It's not making any difference. In my workouts.

[B]

And waiters, you wear hip waders.

[A]

No, I've not done that yet. Just. Just a waiter's vest. Vest. And it's got his name tag on it still. He wants it back. But I just give Mario. Yeah. I'm like, can I have. Can I borrow your vest? I'm gonna work out this week. So.

[B]

Waiters vest.

[A]

A waiter's vest.

[B]

Yeah, and hip waiter.

[A]

So I'm gonna try to get that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna make a video and hopefully it'll go viral of me working out in my waiter's vest.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

See if we can get that trend to catch.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

If that catches, I'll split the profits with you.

[B]

You don't have to do that.

[A]

We'll get it now.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

We'll get it on Amazon. Put the 312 Sports logo on it.

[B]

Go on. Shark Tank.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, Sharks. I'm Matt At a Cole, and I'm here to work out with you in my new waiter's vest. Here, I got one for each of you to try on.

[B]

Mark Cuban. Put it on. Here you go.

[A]

Now lift this dumbbell. Feel better?

[B]

Do you remember, were you at the station when Lori Greiner was there taping something?

[A]

I don't recall. So maybe it was in the last eight years, and maybe I just didn't get alerted to it, or maybe I.

[B]

Just didn't care because I swear to God, she's like, this tall and her hair is big hair, huge. And I thought it was like a Star wars creature or something wandering around. All you see is, like, this, like.

[A]

The Spaceballs thing that you don't, like.

[B]

I wouldn't know from Spaceballs, but I'm like, you just see?

[A]

No. The big helmet guy.

[B]

Yeah. That's kind of what it looked like down a hallway. What is that like? Oh, that's Laura Grenier. Like, oh, wow, that's a lot of hair.

[A]

Was that really?

[B]

Yeah, it was. Yes. Because for the cameras, they blow it all out.

[A]

And, like, the.

[B]

I'm sure she looks normal when she gets up. Like, puts a hat on and goes to the gym.

[A]

Was the hair volume to height ratio off?

[B]

No, it's like total. Total size.

[A]

Okay, interesting.

[B]

She's a teeny little person with giant hair. I don't know. And then her husband was really nice, too. He was just kind of.

[A]

They do something at the station.

[B]

Yeah. She came. She had to use one of the studios there for something.

[A]

Oh, she wasn't like, On a show?

[B]

No, she was using one of the studios on our floor.

[A]

I gotcha. I think no one wrangled her on a show to talk Shark Tank or get her to invest in something.

[B]

I think she. Isn't she from Chicago and went to Loyola or something? I thought she was from here.

[A]

No idea. No one tried to get her to invest in real estate or anything or.

[B]

Hey, I got a pitch for you. You run into the elevator. Listen, I got this thing.

[A]

Why would. You gotta wait till the doors open? Run into the elevator as the doors are closing.

[B]

I'm saying.

[A]

Oh, okay. I think I just run right into the doors.

[B]

Okay. Oh, I got you. Check this out. I need an investment. I bought a molybdenum mine. This is.

[A]

No idea what that is.

[B]

It's a mineral because, you know, all these rare earths or whatever. Oh, what are they getting now? Like the stuff to make the batteries.

[A]

Oh, okay. Like a. Like a lithium battery.

[B]

Yeah. There's, like. All of these people are buying the.

[A]

Stuff they made Captain America's Shield out of.

[B]

Is that vibranium? No, vibranium is from Black Panther. Right. That's in Wakanda, Illinois. Full of vibranium.

[A]

We go to Wakanda a lot. Docs and Lindy's Landing. It's a great, great little. Little, like, little lake house kind of vibe to it.

[B]

We played a golf course there. Stonewall Orchard.

[A]

Yep, that's right there. Stonewall Orchard.

[B]

Yeah. We had a really good time there.

[A]

Did you. It was expensive.

[B]

I remember it was expensive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm looking at. There's a. There's a lake right near the clubhouse.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And there's bass in it.

[A]

Like, did you fish?

[B]

I made the mistake of asking permission.

[A]

Oh, and they told you no.

[B]

Never, ever, ever ask permission.

[A]

Yeah. Because it's always easier to ask forgiveness than.

[B]

Right. If I'm standing there holding one by the L, taking a picture, you're not allowed to fish here.

[A]

Sorry, sorry.

[B]

I'll get out of here.

[A]

Just throw it back in.

[B]

But I screwed up. I said, hey, do you mind if I cast like. Oh, no, you can't do that.

[A]

Damn it.

[B]

Like, you sure? You sure?

[A]

Yeah. You never ask.

[B]

Come on, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hook a brother up.

[A]

Yeah. He never asked. Just do it.

[B]

I know. It's my mistake, so that's going to do it, I think. Do you have more NFL notes on there?

[A]

Oh, you know, I wanted to ask you, actually. Yeah, now that you say that, as we're just jerking around here, the. I asked you this question yesterday about about the injuries in the NFL and I'm trying to find something on it. And there's really nothing there to find because no one's. No one's compiled everything for this year. And I. I could do that. That would just take a lot of work.

[B]

Does it feel.

[A]

It seems like there are more injuries. And I was looking through and just doing some research on it. CBS is calling it the. The injuries as an alarming rate. The AP or CBS has a massive storyline this year. AP is an alarming rate. We're seeing more injuries to key roles. I think that's what's making it stand out. More and more injuries to the offensive line than we're seeing. But it just seems like there are more injuries this year.

[B]

Well, I previous. I also read something that I think it was either. I think it was one of the Schwartz brothers from their podcast. I think Jeff Schwartz maybe, who said that what's happening is individual offensive line injuries are affecting offensive lines more than they used to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that was because practice time and the ability for these lines to come together in full padded practices. It sounded like kind of an old guy saying, well, you know, in our day you could plug somebody in because they practiced and they practiced in pads and that losing one gu on your line didn't affect your quality of play as much as it does now. And I don't know that it was a scientifically derived opinion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'd also may just be you're paying more attention to the NFL this year.

[A]

Yeah. That's what I was wondering. I don't know if it's. Yeah. Because I'm consuming more than just Bears.

[B]

And you're aware and we've got DBU picks. You're like, wait a second. Why is this guy out? Why?

[A]

Or if there's more. If there's this key injuries to big name players this year more than normal.

[B]

I know the Giants are looking at their playing surface. The Giants are concerned.

[A]

They're just staring at it.

[B]

No, they're.

[A]

That's it. That's our playing service.

[B]

It is. I can confirm. I concur. That's a playing service. I think that they had been having these discussions for a while.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

About whether or not they're. It's sort of like we've done with the Bears forever, about why is it the grass always sucks? The grass always sucks. Should they go to field turf or go to the hybrid that they have at Lambeau and what should they do? And then Matt Eber flu's legacy is going to be that he just said, oh, use Bermuda grass. And it's been fine.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So I just don't know if there's more injuries, if I'm consuming more of it, if it's just some bigger names that are, that are being hurt early on in the season. If the way that the off seasons are run and then how practices are run, as far as as hitting is concerned, does that impact the injuries, the types of injuries, the number of injuries? Yeah, maybe. If you were hitting and you were in pads more often as a backup guy, doing that more often, does it, does it really decrease the level of play?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

From an offensive line standpoint? Yeah, I just don't know. And there's nothing compiled out there. And short of going game by game and seeing the number of players that are out this year and comparing it.

[B]

To a previous season, man, games play.

[A]

Yeah, I just, I just don't know how to. There's. There's nothing there available. I'm just not looking.

[B]

Let's leave it as an open item and just say that this is something to remain under consideration once they, once we see the data, objective data of games missed and by whom actually compile.

[A]

And I would like to see too, if, if it's compiled out there somewhere, like the types of injuries are there, are there more like strains as, as we get, as guys get bigger and faster and you know, in these, all these different positions in the NFL, are there more strains happening, more things that are keeping guys out a week or two? I just don't know. And, you know, I wish if there's, if there's a spot out there that's compiled online, I'd love to see.

[B]

Maybe it's this. Maybe it's as everybody is making more money and everybody's just more careful about their health, knowing there's 17 games rather than 16 and the playoffs, that maybe what constitutes an injury rather than just being hurt, that we've moved the line to what's gonna limit you in practice and what's gonna keep you out. And I'm not saying anybody's gotten softer. I'm just saying people maybe gotten smarter about what it takes to recover meaningfully in a way that is in the best interest of your season.

[A]

Well, if. I'd hate to think that one extra game in a season has that much of an impact on if a guy plays or not. So what's going to happen when they go to 18 regular season games?

[B]

I don't know. Or is it diagnostics? Are we finding out about more Injuries. Are players better about reporting injuries? Maybe fewer players are hiding their injuries. Maybe everybody just feels a little more secure in saying, I'm less than 100%, you make your decision. And that we don't have the same. The same. I hate to use the term ethos, because now I sound like Pete Hegseth, but we're gonna hold you to a manly code of manliness that is definitely not gay.

[A]

Did you see the snl?

[B]

That's so not gay.

[A]

Did you see Colin Jost?

[B]

I heard about it.

[A]

I did sneak.

[B]

I was out doing other things.

[A]

Pete Hagseth, and he does the whole thing, and he was like, our military is gayer than ever. It's also fatter than ever. Make that make sense. And then he's like, you guys get it right? And they pan out, they show the crowd, and the general's all just sitting there. He's like, oh, you guys get it right? It was funny.

[B]

Well, I don't want to sound like that. It may just be that players are. That the barrier for reporting an injury is perhaps lower than it used to be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because it's more accepted.

[A]

So I don't know, maybe I'll just have to take several hours out of a day and look at it game by game and who's out and how that compares to previous years.

[B]

Have your intern do it.

[A]

Oh, God, yeah. Can you get on that? Yeah.

[B]

It's a great thing.

[A]

My Tuesday. Thank you.

[B]

You've got four boys in your house. You say, who needs a special. Who wants to be my extra special research assistant?

[A]

See, but here's the thing, though, with me, and this is. This is 16 years of the score, too. I didn't. I had to do it myself to trust that it was correct.

[B]

Every intern was brain dead.

[A]

And I'm not even talking about the interns. I'm just talking about, like, I. I had to do it myself.

[B]

I know.

[A]

No, when it came to, like, working on audio stuff, I wanted. I wanted nothing to do with it. So that was all intern but research stuff. I just had to make sure.

[B]

Hey. Hey. Just say hey.

[A]

I mean, I could ask Henry if I show him, like, where to look and what to look for.

[B]

Right. And just say, look. We'll give you credit. And then you will have done a research project. 4, 31 2, sports. And put on your resume.

[A]

I'll try that. Let's. I'll see what happens. I say if I. If I showed him how to go game by game and look at the number of players out, like, what to do where to look. I would say he'd get through three games before he'd quit.

[B]

Right. I know what he. What he would do is he would. He would look at a couple games, realize how much grindy busy work it is, and then he would go to TikTok or other social media to see if somebody else has already done the work probably. And he might actually find it.

[A]

Maybe I'll just do that. Maybe I'll just send him on a chase to find it somewhere online.

[B]

And then you have the hack and then you can do that next time. That is Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast. And this week, as we start turning our attention toward the commanders, it is going to be on DBU when you're going to hear our top 10 commanders.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I want to make that. Ma', am, we've mentioned that last week, but make it very clear that, yeah, we're Moving the top 10 list of DBU to keep forward progress.

[B]

I did forget a bear and thank you.

[A]

Oh, I did, too. Yeah, I know.

[B]

I know. We did the top 10 bears. And I feel awful.

[A]

Yeah. When I. When I realized it, I felt really bad about it.

[B]

I forgot the masturbating bear from Conan o', Brien, who absolutely should have been a top five bear.

[A]

He. He would have. Definitely should have been on the list.

[B]

Should have been on for sure. One of the great comic characters.

[A]

Not the bear that Terry wrestled who also masturbated. It's a different bear, right?

[B]

No, Victor was. Was a masturbating bear after he won. You take that rod Marinelli, add him to the list. But he was not the. So, yes, I screwed that up. And for everybody who pointed that out, you're right, I'm wrong. My bad.

[A]

One other one, too was mentioned to me, an email from a listener, so thank you. Was Teddy Ruxpole been. You know, he should have been mentioned and not on the top 10, but should have been mentioned that that was a fail. Also, I was criticized for. For counting out Clark for not wearing pants, but putting Pooh on the list, who doesn't wear pants either. So, yeah, it was hypocritical, but the committee did. Did what the committee's going to do.

[B]

Hey, man.

[A]

Committee's committee. Yeah, that's what happens.

[B]

And there's hypocrisy and the committee knows that.

[A]

Just not on this show.

[B]

Never. Never. Damn it.

[A]

All right, say goodbye.

[B]

Goodbye.

[A]

Forward Progress, a Chicago Bears podcast with Dan Bernstein and Matt Abeticola on 312 Sports.