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The Hidden Truth About Plastic Surgery (They Never Tell You This) | Ep. 199 with Dr. Osman Bashir Tahir
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Daniel
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
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Daniel
Everyone, welcome back to Founder story. Today we have Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir and you are a world renowned, award winning plastic surgeon with clinics in London, Dubai and Lahore. I love talking about aesthetics, plastic surgery, regenerative medicine, these are topics, these are my, my most favorite topics. Dr. Obt which you are also known as Dr. Obt. But before we dive into all these things because I'm very curious about what is, what is popular right now, what are people looking at? How did you get started in this field? And then on top of that you are a global citizen with having businesses in many countries. How did this happen?
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
First of all, thank you so much Daniel for having me on this podcast today. Yeah, I think let's, let's take it from the stripe. I basically, you know, as far as I can remember I was, I was about 7 or 8 years old and I was walking with my grandfather and you know, he asked me what you want to become and I said I want to become a doctor because I know I Want to help people and I want to, you know, and I was a bit of an artist in school and growing up, I. When I eventually my parents really supported me, you know, with my education and always whatever I wanted to do. So I got into med school and I kind of. I really got interested, fascinated with surgery. And it kind of all came together because it was like, you know, there was a blend of art and science and plastic and reconstructive surgery was something which I really developed a lot of passion for. I loved helping our people. You know, cleft surgeries and all these. We had trauma patients and we had all these challenging cases. There was a massive workload of burn patients and reconstructive patients. And then what happened was that basically I started seeing that my patients, when we used to do their surgeries, even if it was a really complex reconstruction, they were still a little bit unhappy with the color mismatch or with the texture of their skin or with something or another. And I felt like, you know, okay, what if I can do something? And I. That's when aesthetics started getting really popular. So I started dabbling into it during. Towards the middle to end of my residency program. And I saw my patients started getting so happy when I did like, things like chemical peels, a bit of lasers, a bit of micro needling, which used to start to really improve the results. And it was so funny because they started getting more happy with the.
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Daniel
With.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
With the final touches, which you could call more than the complex reconstruction itself. So it kind of like, I love the fact that they became so happy, and I just felt that that completed their journey. So I started doing. Practicing aesthetic medicine side by side. So I think I consider myself one of the first guys who really divided my practice into aesthetic surgery and aesthetic medicine. So a lot of plastic surgeons don't really do too much aesthetics. They give it to the nurses or they don't are just not interested in it. At the same time, there's a lot of aesthetic medical practitioners who don't really know where. When to refer their patient. Therefore, that's why things start getting a bit weird. So I think that it's kind of having. Having gone to this really early and having that kind of diversity in my practice, it just. It just evolved and it really, you know, my patients started getting happy and they started growing my practice. And here I am today.
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Daniel
I'm very fascinated with what you're talking about, blending art and surgery. And that makes total sense when I'm thinking about plastic surgery and the end result for what the Patient wants to have. So walk me through the. You know, what's going on in your mind when you're looking at somebody or somebody comes in and they say, I need one thing done. You always see, like this, like, draw, you know, doctors drawing lines on people and looking, and I'm always what's going on in their mind.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
So, you know, Daniel, the thing is that there's a lot of misconceptions and a lot of. A lot of stuff. What we see on social media is I always kind of like, say, oh, my God, this is. It's like a circus. It's like it's just going in a wrong direction. You'll never hear about all the great cases, all the great work, all this, the confidence boost, all the right things. But, you know, whenever something will happen, like if somebody's gotten a procedure just freshly done, they're a bit swollen, people are going to go rush after them and troll them and all that. I think everybody, everybody, every one of us has an, you know, an area or two. You know, it could be your hair, it could be your skin, it could be something which, you know, you want to. You want to improve it, and that. That'll just add a bit more confidence in you, and then it kind of trickles into other areas of your life. So, you know, for example, if somebody says, oh, God, I have this love handle issue or I have this double chin issue, if I do a little bit of liposuction into it, and then they kind of, like, I see them later on, they're like, they look totally different. Why? Because they've started eating right. They started going to the gym now, and they started like, you know, dressing better. And because. And that trickles. And then they're. They're better partners. They're better in their family. So that is the essence. That's the right reasons why people should be getting things done. Not for other people not to look like someone else. It never should never be like that. When someone comes and says, I want Angelina Jolie, I'm like, look, these are your lips. I'm going to try to make them as attractive and natural as possible on your face. I cannot make somebody else's lips come onto your face. So I think that when I look at someone coming into my office, I always look, what can I do for this person for them to look a little bit more attractive, a little bit more better, a little bit more healthier? For example, if they have tired eyes, I can give them solutions which are instant and also regenerative. And when I say regenerative, it means I'm blending stuff which is, you know, which is, which is going to give some instant volumization or improvement and then is going to work slowly and slowly to improve the quality of skin tissues. And that's where that's the right direction. This industry is kind of heading and should be heading it's towards regenerative treatments and wellness and lifestyle and integration of all of these things to get the best possible outcome for the patient.
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Daniel
And on the aesthetic side, what would you say is one of the most popular things that people are coming in for?
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Aesthetics? Yeah, so like you know, injectables and energy based devices are really popular. So injectables people are a little bit, you know, a bit more scared now because of what they see, you know, with, with, with what happens with fillers. But I feel that that is more of a problem when, when it kind of went into the mainstream, a lot of people who weren't really trained or had that much that thorough anatomical knowledge or scientific knowledge on how fillers work and they kind of just went overboard and started selling fillers rather than doing them the way they should be done. And whenever, I mean anybody who knows me knows that I am such a conservative injector. So fillers is still one of my most popular non surgical treatments and I do it the way it should be done. Like that means do a tiny bit where it's required, exact location, anatomically correct to give a best, the best result. When you overdo it or think that, oh, I'm going to put a bit more to get it better result, that's when things go wrong and then you have to kind of like dissolve it and redo it the right way. So I'm doing a lot of reversals for a lot of other doctors and other, I'm not putting anybody down, but it's kind of, it shouldn't be something so casually performed and I think that it needs more regulation and I think in states have started doing that and I think it should come into London for sure because here beauticians are doing the injections and that's this kind of, that's just wrong, you know, injecting into the face. I feel that's, that's just not, it's a medical procedure after all. And when it's done by an expert who actually does it in every single day of their life for a couple of years, the results are incredible. They're great. And now there are injectable substances which are triggering your own collagen production so you should be utilizing, you should be having that, you know, armentarium of, of different kind of products and then obviously have a bespoke plan for the patient. It's not like, oh, cookie cutter approach. Oh, whoever's going to come, going to make it the same way. And that's what's kind of happening when you go to typical med spas or some locations which are just trying to sell, sell, sell. So I think, I think that people think that anybody can achieve the natural look, but in my experience, I think only experts can achieve that natural or undetectable look. And undetectable aesthetics is actually also one of the directions where the industry is going. And I am totally for that. Totally.
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Daniel
I like how you said the undetectable because I do see some people sometimes and I'm like, wow, it really doesn't look like them anymore.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Yeah, wrong ones. Yeah.
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Daniel
I like the accentuating the parts that you have versus looking like somebody you're not. And I have.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
But then you see somebody who's so I'm sorry, but like to cut you off, but like, I'm just so, you know, excited about this topic because then again, you also see someone who looks so good, but then you don't really, you don't really know what they got done. You're like, did he, didn't he, did she, didn't she. Because she just looks. Or he looks really handsome or she looks really attractive, really pretty. But you do know that they did something, but you always think, no, they might not have done so that, you know, that that guest thing, that's the right thing, that's the way it should be. And you know, they should look like themselves. Just the best version. Right.
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Daniel
Who doesn't want to be the best version of themselves?
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Exactly, exactly.
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Daniel
On the regenerative side, what are some things that you're excited about that you're either already doing.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Yeah.
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Daniel
Or what you're seeing in the future?
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Oh, you know, I see so much stuff which has been, is, is being done for so many years, but you know, they kind of package it into a new name and they kind of like try to sell it. I think, I think the regenerative aesthetic procedures, regenerative medicine is great, but obviously you're going to have a lot of companies trying to force things which are office based and can be done by dermatologists or aesthetic physicians. But I think as a plastic and reconstructive surgeon, I know that one of the best regenerative compounds is your own fat. Your fat contains incredible stem cells and to harvest that fat you need to do liposuction. So it's a two step process that's not maybe as easier as office based injections. There are injections out now. There are microneedling treatments with exosomes which are stem cell based science. But, but when you, when you inject fat and there's many kinds of fat, people imagine fat as being this really thick and you know, bulky substance. But you can also like liquefied and call and it's called nano fat or micro and micro fat is a bit more thicker. But when you inject these, the same this compound taken from your own body and transfer it into the right areas, you can get that really nice youthful effect. Things like for example the under eye area. When you're injecting something like that, which is really a milky version, a milky kind of consistency of your fat. We prepare that first. It kind of, it helps to improve the quality of your undry skin for example. It'll make it thicker, it'll make it more look more healthy. You look overall it'll give you that nice effect because you already had that before. But you do weight loss, you do aging, you do stress due to inflammation, you get that tired look, for example. So I do inject a lot of fat into the face. I do it whilst I'm doing my facelifts or even some patients who don't are not ready for a facelift and they want a bit of volume or they want a bit more improvement in their skin quality or even in their body. You can even inject any roast in the body. So fat transfer is a great regenerative treatment. But then exosomes as I say with microneedling is really good. There are polynucleotides which is really popularly known recently you must have heard congratulation that salmon sperm facial, that's basically salmon DNA which mimics human DNA and we kind of injected it doesn't behave like a volumizing kind of a product. So you can inject it under your eye, you can inject it into your smile lines for example. And what it's going to do is it's just going to progressively improve the quality of your skin. And I've really seen great results with this compound. Unfortunately I don't think it's out in the states yet but I'm sure it's going to make its way soon. I think, I think it has come out as a topical version which you can just rub onto your skin like during microneedling and after microneedling. But in The UK and the rest of the world, we're actually injecting it. And polynucleotides is not a new compound. I mean it's been, you know, used in medicine since over 50 years. So it's, it's, that's something really good. So yeah, regenerative is, is, is, is a good direction for, for aesthetics and for wellness and all these, you know, to go tours for patients who are into this kind of a. Scott. Because it's going to be, it's going to be doing things opposite of what's happening. We are losing collagen at a rate of 1% per year and that's affecting everything in our body and our face and our, everything hair. So if we're injecting things like this into our scalp, into our face or introducing it into our skin, we are going to see that nice effect. And you know what, it's not going to be instant, it's going to be very slow. But you're going to be like one day you're just going to wake up after. Let's say if I do a treatment today, I'll be okay. I won't look like I had anything done in one week from now or two weeks, but after a couple of months, three to four months down the line, you're gonna be like, whoa, okay, I'm looking a bit nicer. My under eye area is looking less tired. You know, things like that. That's the right way to do regenerative treatments. And they have their place. So I do combination. So I'll do things like, you know, like a filler, I'll do some microneedling, I'll do some injectable regenerative treatments, I'll do some anti wrinkle injections. And when you really combine these things and some energy based is, you could really prolong the time for you to get a facelift or to get some more invasive options. So it's not something, I mean it's not going to take place of surgery, but there should be, there should be, there's an evolution. There's a time, you know, you can, you can actually do start doing these things like let's say in your 20s, late 20s and then in your 30s and then you know, and then in the 40s you can still do your surgery and combine it with these treatments so you can look great at every age. What I mean to say is there's no age limit to this, this to be honest with you.
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Daniel
Wow, that's amazing. I mean that's good to know because I'm now in my 40s and I want to look like I am in my 20s. I remember the PRP and then the vampire facial. I thought that was one of the best things I've ever done for my personal growth was picking up a new language. Whether you're traveling, leveling up your career or just love learning, speaking another language opens up many doors and Rosetta Stone makes it easier, more immersive, more fun. It's the leading language learning program available right on your desktop or mobile. Rosetta Stone helps you learn naturally, just like you picked up your first language through real world context and conversation. Just practical skills you can use right away. What I love most is the true accent speech recognition. It gives you real time feedback so your pronunciation actually sounds like a native speaker. With 30 years experience, millions of learners in 25 languages choose from like Spanish, also Tagalog which I'm learning. Rosetta Stone is the go to for anyone serious about learning fast and retaining it long term. Don't wait. Unlock your language learning potential now. Founders Story Listeners can grab Rosetta Stone's lifetime membership for 50% off. That's unlimited access to 25 language courses for life. Visit Rosetta Stone.com today to get started and claim your 50% off today. Don't miss out. Go to Rosetta Stone.com today and start learning today. April is Earth Month, a time to reflect on the impact of our choices. Sustainability starts at home and especially in the bedroom. Did you know most mattresses end up in landfills within a decade? That's why I love Avocado Green mattress. Made with certified organic materials like latex, cotton and wool. Avocado mattresses aren't just built for comfort, they're built to last. And lasting quality means fewer replacements, less waste and a healthier planet. Every Avocado mattress is crafted, ethically, climate neutral, certified and made in their own zero waste factory, diverting 85% of waste from landfills this Earth moon. Choose sleep with purpose. Choose sustainability. Head to avocadomatrass.com today and save up to 10% on certified organic mattresses. Dream of better for you and the planet. Starting your business should be simple. That's why I love what Northwest Registered Agent is doing. You can build your entire business identity in just 10 clicks and 10 minutes. Seriously, whether you're launching your first company or your fifth, you get more when you start with Northwest. More privacy, more guidance and more freedom to run your business from anywhere. They've helped businesses grow for nearly 30 years and they've got your back for just $39 plus state fees, Northwest will form your business, create a custom website and set up a local presence anywhere you need it. One more. They'll protect your identity by using their address on your formation documents and their premium mail forwarding gives you a real business address that keeps your home info private which I have used this service for many years. Don't wait, protect your privacy, build your brand and set up your business in just 10 clicks in 10 minutes. Visit northwestregisteredagent.com founders and start building something amazing. Get more with Northwest registered agent@northwestregisteredagent.com founders kind of wild, but now you're talking about the salmon sperm face. That is very interesting. I need to, I need to look into that. But no, this is great. I mean I didn't know all these things about, you know, the fat and what, how the fat can be used. Stem cells. Yeah. This sounds like incredible stuff. Are you finding I.e. aI or advancements with technology being able to assist or help in, in plastic surgery?
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Yes, we do, we use, we, we utilize AI in, I use it in my clinic to assess the skin for example. I knew we can also after treatments but also see the volumetric changes and any kind of, those kind of changes into the skin.
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Daniel
Yeah. This has been an amazing conversation. I'm always very interested about what's going on in the space. Thank you for shedding light just about how you know how your life was, how, how you got to where you are today and then also what is going on in this industry. I'm very excited about these things because it, it really makes me feel like I can stay and look young, I can feel young, I can be confident in myself at any age, which really excites me. But if people want to get in touch with you, I know you have, you have clinics in different countries as well. How can they do so, So I.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Think that the locations are mentioned and then the contact details are mentioned on my website. And Daniel, you know what you said is spot on. It's all about self confidence and it's all about trying to, trying to look and feel your best at every age. And I think that now with the direction where the industry is going with the wellness therapies and your lifestyle medicine, I think that this, it's, it's, that's just really important to get that, that nice outcome. So I believe that it's, it's great for anyone at any age. There's no, there's no age limit. And of course if you choose the right doctor, he can definitely help you achieve your goals.
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Daniel
Dr. OBT Dr. Osman Bashir Tahir thank you so much for joining us today on Founders Story.
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Dr. Asman Bashir Tahir
Thank you so much Daniel.
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Daniel
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