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Episode: Jamilah Lemieux on the complicated beauty of being a ‘Black. Single. Mother.’

Host: Tonya Mosley
Guest: Jamilah Lemieux, writer and cultural critic
Date: March 10, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode features an illuminating conversation between Tonya Mosley and Jamilah Lemieux about Lemieux’s new book, Black Single Mother, which interweaves personal narrative with cultural history and interviews, examining the pervasive stigma and unseen beauty of single Black motherhood in America. They address how stereotypes were shaped - notably by the 1965 Moynihan Report and the “welfare queen” trope - and discuss the complexities of identity, motherhood, and reimagining family beyond traditional frameworks. The episode is a candid exploration of shame, resilience, co-parenting, class, faith, and the redefining of Black single motherhood.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Weight and Meaning of “Black Single Mother”

• The Power of the Label
  • Lemieux describes how even considering writing about this topic was once deeply triggering for her, fearing permanent association with a stigmatized label.
  • [02:57] Jamilah Lemieux: "I thought that by writing it, putting this down, this is who I will be forever...then I realized there's nothing wrong if I am a black single mother for life...it's not a death sentence. It's not doom."

2. Personal Journey to Single Motherhood

• Unexpected Pregnancy & Relationship Endings
  • Lemieux shares her story of falling deeply in love, experiencing a breakup, then discovering she was pregnant shortly after.
  • [03:38] “Not too long after that, he tells me that he wants to break up for good. And a few weeks later, I find out that I am pregnant. So we've been co parenting my daughter's entire life.”

3. The Stigma and Use of “Baby Mama”

• Societal Insults and Internalized Shame
  • Lemieux elucidates how “baby mama” and “single mother” are commonly used as insults, even before they applied to her personally, though “I still never take it personally when people have used those phrases towards me as an insult.” [05:32]
  • However, she wrestled privately with feelings of failure that came from within, not from public shaming.

4. Grieving the Dream of the “Traditional” Family

• Media’s Influence on Expectations
  • Lemieux describes mourning the family ideal depicted in shows like The Cosby Show and Fresh Prince: “I was grieving this image of family that I'd built up for myself from childhood, you know, largely due to television and books...but what I did see was... Black upper middle class families enjoying prosperity together." [06:40]
  • She notes class anxiety was intertwined: "A big thing that I felt like I was missing was class, privilege...it was money. Right. I wonder, had my mother been a high earning single mom, would I have mourned and grieved what was missing from my life?" [07:24]

5. Lemieux’s Own Upbringing

• Co-Parenting Before the Term Existed
  • Raised in Chicago by a single mother, her father was present but “not...raising me in the way that my daughter's father, who has her 50% of the time, is raising our daughter." [08:26]
  • Her mother was “an amazing mother...very regal...she was doing gentle parenting before it was a thing.” [09:15]

6. The Online Performance vs. Internal Reality

• Navigating Visibility and Vulnerability
  • Lemieux discusses being a public figure on social media, sharing curated images of motherhood while battling private shame.
  • [10:29] (Reading from the book): "This public performance of motherhood stood in contrast with the shame I felt over the circumstances under which I was doing it. ...Privately, I felt like a failure for becoming a single mom. ...Who was I to have an audience at all? I was just another baby mama.”

7. Class, Community, and Faith in Shaping Single Motherhood

• Hyde Park Neighborhood and Early Experiences
  • Growing up around other single mothers created a normalized experience, but she describes how the rise of the internet and certain church communities sharply increased stigma.
  • “Back then I wasn't hearing negativity about single mothers the way I do now in the era of the Internet...” [12:40]
  • On churches: “Candace Benbow...her mom, the church asked her mom to get up in front of the congregation and apologize for having a child out of wedlock, and she refused to do it.” [14:03]

8. The Huxtables, Gender Roles, and the Work of Mothering

• Pop Culture’s Double Edge
  • Clip played: Cosby Show scene of Claire Huxtable challenging gender roles (16:07-17:12).
  • Lemieux’s reflection: “I hate Bill Cosby for making me hate Bill Cosby” [17:26], underscoring the pain of losing role models tainted by real-life revelations.
  • On division of labor: “Single mothers do like seven hours less housework per week compared to married mothers because they're not taking care of a man.” [19:31]

9. Redefining Family

• Moving Beyond Nuclear Definitions
  • “For maybe the first five or six years of my daughter's life, I would still say things like, I want to settle down someday and start a family...as if we weren't a family.” [22:17]
  • “My family is sufficient. My family is...enough.” [23:23]

10. Co-Parenting Evolution

• From Tension to Partnership
  • Lemieux describes a sometimes “not very cordial” early co-parenting relationship with her daughter’s father and the emotional release — “I cursed him out one good time...that was the last time I ever yelled at him.” [24:13-24:36]
  • The turning point was his remarriage, which forced her to face reality and prioritize their child:
    “I never wanted my hurt feelings to impact Naima's relationship to her dad. ...Nothing was more important than Naima. Not my pride, not my ego, not my feelings, not my comfort...” [26:13]

11. Single Mothers and the Fullness of Womanhood

• Maintaining Identity Beyond Motherhood
  • Lemieux always envisioned a full life outside of mothering: “Even before, I might not have anticipated being a single mother, but I always knew that...I was going to have a life of my own outside of mothering.” [28:29]
  • She intentionally shares her authentic self with her daughter, including discussions about dating and emotional transparency. [30:34]

12. Single Motherhood: A Renaissance?

• Growing Choices and Representation
  • Lemieux observes more women, especially white women, now choosing single motherhood, predicting: “This moment in time is gonna be a renaissance for single moms, you know, and black women absolutely belong at the forefront of that...” [31:38]

13. Message and Vision for the Book

• Changing the Narrative
  • “I want people to reimagine black single moms...recognize us as an important force in the black community.” [32:12]

14. Fantasia’s ‘Baby Mama’ — From Trigger to Anthem

• Pop Music and Empowerment
  • Lemieux reflects on how Fantasia’s song “Baby Mama” initially repelled her but now moves her to tears, emphasizing the power of pride and visibility. [34:12]:
    “When I hear it now, I think it's so revolutionary and so significant. And Fantasia should really be credited for having the courage...to publicly surround single motherhood in love and pride.”

15. The Breadth of Black Single Motherhood

• Interviewing 21 Single Moms
  • Lemieux’s book includes the voices of 21 other single mothers with varied experiences but a shared “undying commitment to their children.” [35:17]
  • She notes her own privilege and how her story is just one among many.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Owning the Title:
  • “I've lived a great life as a black single mother. I had a great black single mother. It may not be my preference, but it's not a death sentence. It's not doom.” — Jamilah Lemieux [02:58]
• On Performance vs. Authenticity:
  • “Who was I to have an audience at all? I was just another baby mama.” — Jamilah Lemieux reading from her book [10:29]
• On Class and Grief:
  • “A big thing I felt like I was missing was class privilege...” — Jamilah Lemieux [07:24]
• On Single Mothers’ Labor:
  • “Single mothers do like seven hours less housework per week compared to married mothers because they're not taking care of a man.” — Jamilah Lemieux [19:31]
• On Shifting Family Definitions:
  • “My family is sufficient. My family is...enough.” — Jamilah Lemieux [23:23]
• On Co-Parenting:
  • “Nothing was more important than Naima. Not my pride, not my ego, not my feelings, not my comfort...” — Jamilah Lemieux [26:13]
• On Fantasia’s Song:
  • “When I hear it now, I think it's so revolutionary and so significant. And Fantasia should really be credited for having the courage...to publicly surround single motherhood in love and pride.” — Jamilah Lemieux [34:12]

Key Timestamps

• Intro & Setting the Stage: 00:15–02:14
• Grappling with the Book’s Label: 02:14–03:31
• Personal Path to Single Motherhood: 03:31–05:43
• On Stigma and Internalized Shame: 05:43–07:36
• Describing Childhood & Parenting Models: 07:36–11:09
• Online vs. Internal Experience: 09:48–11:09
• Community, Church, and Stigma: 12:05–14:39
• The Cosby Show and Gender Roles: 15:30–19:31
• Redefining Family: 21:59–23:34
• Co-Parenting Evolution: 23:34–27:14
• Maintaining Selfhood: 27:48–30:34
• Single Motherhood Renaissance: 31:27–31:49
• Hopes for the Book’s Impact: 32:09–32:44
• Fantasia’s ‘Baby Mama’: 33:08–34:58
• Interviewing 21 Mothers: 34:58–36:36
• Closing and Thanks: 36:36–36:41

Final Thoughts

This episode offers a multidimensional, unflinchingly honest perspective on the realities, struggles, joys, and expanding possibilities of Black single motherhood. Lemieux’s voice - warm, insightful, often vulnerable but also fiercely proud - challenges listeners to reconsider their assumptions, honor the labor and love of single mothers, and recognize the beauty in nontraditional families.