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This is a CBC podcast.
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Hey, everybody. I'm Jamie Presson. For decades now, there's been this story, almost too perverse to believe, about the war in Bosnia. The claim was first reported by the Italian press, but also Bosnian media, and was brought up in the tribunal which followed the war. The allegation that wealthy foreigners had traveled to the besieged city of Sarajevo to shoot at Bosnian civilians for sport. It was referred to as tourism shooting or human safaris or sniper safaris. That accusation is now the subject of an investigation by the Public Prosecutor's office in Milan, Italy. The war in Bosnia is one of the darkest chapters of the end of the 20th century, and it involved mass violence among people that had long lived together in relative peace. It included bombardments, the longest wartime siege in modern history, the use of concentration camps, and a genocide in the small mountain town of Srebrenica. But it was defined in many ways by sniper fire. Sarajevo was terrorized by snipers positioned high above who intentionally targeted civilians positioned below. Jeanine digiovanni covered the Bosnian war as a reporter for the Times of London, and she lived through the siege of Sarajevo. She is the author of several acclaimed books on the war and has gone on to cover 18 wars across her 35 years in journalism. She now works as a senior fellow at Yale University's Jackson School of Global affairs and is the co founder and executive director of the Reckoning Project. Janine, thank you so much for coming onto the show.
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It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.
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It's really a pleasure to have you. So before we get into some details of the Bosnian war, some of the central characters and its relevance today, let's start with the news this story of wealthy foreigners paying the Serbian army to snipe besieged Bosnian civilians is one that has been in the ether, however unconfirmed, for decades now. As I understand it, they flew from Trieste to Belgrade, transported by Yugoslav army helicopters to Pal, the wartime headquarters of Bosnian Serb forces, before being driven into the hills above Sarajevo. Different fees were reportedly charged, depending on whether the victim was a man, a woman, or a child. Can you tell me when you first remember hearing about this story?
