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Ashanti Plummer
Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of Futaround and find out. I'm here with my girl Ashanti. Ashanti what's up? Hey.
Az Fudd
I'm good. I'm excited. We have a fun guest today. You want to introduce her?
Ashanti Plummer
Fun is one word to describe her. I would describe her as weird. We have the one and only Caitlyn.
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Ashanti Plummer
Woo. Hey, Caitlin. Jen.
Az Fudd
Hey, Caitlin.
Caitlin Chen
Hi, Zifaad. Hi, Asanthi.
Az Fudd
Kaitlyn, where are you right now?
Caitlin Chen
I'm in Prague right now. Amazing.
Az Fudd
Okay, overseas, girly. We want to get to know you. So I have a couple questions and a couple fun stories lined up. I had the chance to chat with one of your besties, Ellie, your former teammate, and she. She gave me some tea that wanted to chat with.
Ashanti Plummer
I can't wait to hear this.
Caitlin Chen
Oh, God.
Az Fudd
So my first question is, what is a non basketball related thing that people don't know about you?
Caitlin Chen
Non basketball related? I like reading.
Az Fudd
Does that count on par with az? We got some bookworms in the building. So I heard that another non basketball related thing is that you like bread.
Ashanti Plummer
Oh, my God.
Caitlin Chen
I do like bread.
Az Fudd
Oh, my God.
Caitlin Chen
She told you that? That was really embarrassing. So at Princeton, we had like, you know, one of those weekly podcasts. And when I was on it, like, the last question the guy asked me was like, like, what's something people should know about you? Like, unrelated to basketball. And obviously, like, my mind went blank. So I go, I really like bread. And he was. He didn't really know what to do with that.
Ashanti Plummer
So, like, if you know Caitlin Chen, like, that is like a personality trait. I've never seen anyone eat bread the.
Caitlin Chen
Way that she does. Good bread is good bread. And Izzy also eats it.
Ashanti Plummer
She really tries to, but I try not to. But when you're with Caitlin, it's like, you have to.
Az Fudd
Yeah, I heard it turned into like a who. Whole thing, like parents started making baked goods and bringing it to games.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, that part was actually incredible because all my friends, parents, like, somehow found out and so they would bring me like a loaf of sourdough bread or a loaf of, like, a baguette. It'd be amazing.
Az Fudd
And what'd you get for your birthday?
Caitlin Chen
A loaf of bread. Like a shirt that said, like, I heart bread and like, one of those, like, big stuffed animal loaves.
Az Fudd
That's fire. I also heard another fun story back in your Princeton days. I think it was sophomore year, you had a media day. Do you shout out to Ellie, but you want to tell us what happened sophomore year?
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. So they wouldn't let us put our hair down for media day. Crazy, right? So I had my hair tied up and it was Before I had highlights, my hair was black. And we did pictures on a white backdrop and a black backdrop. And so, like, with the black backdrop, you couldn't see my hair. So I looked like a boy. So then it sort of became like a joke on our team that, like, I was a boy on our team and they named me Kyle. And from then on, like, all of my teammates have called me Kyle since.
Az Fudd
Other things that Ellie did say was, you were, like, one super fun, super smiley. She didn't say a bunch of embarrassing things. Mostly good. And that you're always, like, a permanent plus one. Is that, like, your love language? You're always down to go somewhere with your teammate?
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. I feel like the majority of my time at Princeton, it was like you couldn't find one of us without the other.
Az Fudd
Yeah. Az, she was that way at UConn, too.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, I was definitely a plus one. Plus one third wheel, something like that. Always in my apartment. Aw, Caitlin Chen. I miss you.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, you should. I guess I miss you a little, too.
Ashanti Plummer
Just a little. I'll take it.
Caitlin Chen
Just a little.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay. Caitlin, what would you say was the biggest difference coming from Princeton to UConn?
Caitlin Chen
Five spots.
Ashanti Plummer
Oh, five.
Caitlin Chen
Five spots.
Ashanti Plummer
It's like, five spots.
Az Fudd
Explain five spots to our listeners.
Caitlin Chen
It's this one drill that we do at the end of every practice. And it's like, sort of like a star passing is drill, and it ends with, like, a layup. But you have to get, like, everyone has to, like, go through and make their layup in a row for practice to be over. And if, like, someone misses or you drop a pass and you gotta, like.
Ashanti Plummer
Restart, but you hear five spots, and that's the end of practice. Everyone's like, five spots.
Caitlin Chen
Yes. Let's go.
Az Fudd
Yeah, I was going to ask. So why'd you choose UConn? You could have went anywhere.
Caitlin Chen
I felt like UConn would give me, like, the best chance to win a national championship. Yeah. And, like, make it far in the tournament. I would like to say that I was right about that, but honestly, just, like, meeting the team coaches on my visit, it was great. Az was really friendly. Honestly nicer than I thought she would be.
Az Fudd
Walk us through your visit.
Caitlin Chen
When was my visit? Oh, my visit was really random. It was, like, on, like, a Monday. Tuesday. I think I was gonna say it.
Ashanti Plummer
Was during the week.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. Because I remember I wanted to spend the weekends with my friends at Princeton because it was senior spring, obviously. I remember playing CD games. Classic. What do we do? Oh, we went to Coach's house. As usual. And honestly, I don't really remember much else.
Ashanti Plummer
I don't remember much, though. Honestly. What I remember from your visit is your dad, your mom and your dad playing CD games. And they were the funniest. I was like, caitlin, like, I don't know how I feel about her yet, but her parents are cool and that still stands.
Az Fudd
Well, it was the right choice. Cause you won a national championship.
Ashanti Plummer
Caitlyn was like, last year, the biggest surprise for me from her visit. I was like, I don't know how I feel about her. I don't know if she's gonna commit. And then she did. And then the summer, it was like, I don't know if I could really see myself hanging out with her and being close with her. And then it was like, as soon as the season started, I think I hung out with Caitlin every single day.
Az Fudd
That's cute.
Ashanti Plummer
Caitlin. You made last year so much fun. Thanks. It's actually really weird without you. Even though we were only together for less than a year.
Caitlin Chen
I know it's weird that I was only there for a year. It feels like longer maybe just because season feels so long, dude.
Ashanti Plummer
Especially when you go. When you go through a season like that together.
Caitlin Chen
Bonds you definitely. There were a few times last season where I was like, oh, thank God. I only have to go through this once.
Ashanti Plummer
Those sauna conversations. I haven't been in the sauna since you left. Actually, I have not stepped foot in there.
Caitlin Chen
It's pretty bad. That's sort of bad of you. Yeah, I know. Sounds like you're not really. Yeah. But you're not recovering.
Ashanti Plummer
I. Okay. This week. No, my body needs it this week. I'll go in the sauna. I haven't saunaed. I haven't wordled.
Caitlin Chen
I wordled last night.
Ashanti Plummer
You didn't text me.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, I didn't. And I connected. Connected. No mistakes.
Ashanti Plummer
We used to. It was in the sauna. And if we were on trips on the bus, we would wordle. Connect and Hashtag.
Caitlin Chen
Hashtag. And sports connect. The AC was really. AC was terrible at it, that one.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
It was usually lucky if I got one Sports Connection. But we would do that. You, me, Paige, and then some of the back of the bus joined us, too. Oh, and Jake.
Caitlin Chen
Jakey.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, let's talk about where you are right now. You said you're in Prague playing overseas. How long have you been out there?
Caitlin Chen
I got out here, I think October 2nd. About a week. Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Wait, what time is it there?
Caitlin Chen
Shoot, 4. 47. So you guys are six hours behind. Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay. That's not terrible.
Caitlin Chen
But it's like when I'm done with my day and I want to call my friends, they're all still working, so that part sort of sucks. Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah.
Az Fudd
Why'd you choose Prague?
Caitlin Chen
It was actually really, really last minute, so my agent had brought it up, like, maybe a week before, and I didn't really think anything of it because he didn't say anything else. And then he brings it up again and is like, I really think you should do this. And they want you to leave in three days. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll go. But I figured it's two and a half months. It would be a fun experience. And worst comes to worst, it's only two and a half months.
Ashanti Plummer
You can do anything for two and a half months. Facts. How did you pack? Like, did you bring one bag over? Or how does that work?
Caitlin Chen
Word.
Az Fudd
Walk us through your 72 hours.
Caitlin Chen
That was hard. Well, I had actually gone from Cabo to Toronto to visit my boyfriend, and that's when I found out. And so all my stuff was still at home and I didn't have any winter stuff. So my mom, being the amazing person that she is, brought me my stuff to Toronto. That way I didn't have to, like, you know, fly back to Los Angeles to fly back to, like, the east coast, to fly to Europe. So thankful for my mom. She's the best.
Ashanti Plummer
She is the best. Okay, I know you're only a week in, like, what are the practices like? Like, walk us. Walk us through a day, actually, because I have no idea what that's like.
Caitlin Chen
A day. Well, I wake up and then. Do you want, like, a game day or regular practice day?
Ashanti Plummer
Both. So what was a regular practice day?
Caitlin Chen
Regular practice day. I'll walk you through my day. Today I woke up and I got ready. I cooked for the first time today. I made eggs for breakfast and I went to the gym. We had film and then we lifted and then practice. And then I actually met up with these two soccer girls who play for, like, the Prague team nearby or, like, here, because they were like, oh, we're always looking for more Americans to hang out. So got coffee with them and that was honestly great. Yeah, I really like them.
Ashanti Plummer
Oh, that's nice.
Az Fudd
So that's a practice day. What's a game day like?
Caitlin Chen
Game day. I feel like it's pretty similar to, like, every other game day. Wake up, shoot around in the morning, come home, nap, and then go to the game.
Ashanti Plummer
What do you eat for a pregame Meal.
Caitlin Chen
I've sort of just been like, winging it, like, finding something nearby. The little Vietnamese place by my house has been really amazing. I'll just get, like, a rice bowl from there.
Ashanti Plummer
There you go.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah.
Az Fudd
What's the biggest difference you notice from playing with UConn and then playing internationally with your Czech team?
Caitlin Chen
Well, one, everyone spoke English at UConn. There's a start. Like, sometimes I'll be on the court and I'll be hearing, like, three different languages all around me. But for the most part, like, everyone speaks English, so that's helpful because I've heard that on some other teams that's not necessarily the case.
Az Fudd
You guys have a translator?
Caitlin Chen
No.
Az Fudd
Oh, you're on your own.
Caitlin Chen
Everyone's English is, like, good enough, though.
Ashanti Plummer
When you go through plays. Like, what do they. How do they explain the plays in what language?
Caitlin Chen
It's all in English.
Az Fudd
Oh, nice.
Ashanti Plummer
Like, the speech is in English.
Caitlin Chen
English, but it's like a little broken English. Yeah, you piece it together.
Az Fudd
Is there anything you learned from playing in the W that's translating over to playing internationally?
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, I guess. Just like, the physicality. Like, I didn't realize how much more physical professional basketball would be compared to college, although I probably should have. But that's not really something they tell you.
Ashanti Plummer
I know it's early, but is there anything from playing internationally that you want to bring home with you?
Caitlin Chen
Honestly, they, like, move the ball really well here. Like, it rarely, like, just sticks. I feel like we sort of had that UConn too, but post passing.
Ashanti Plummer
Post passing.
Az Fudd
The bigs are thanking you. The bigs are.
Caitlin Chen
Thank you.
Az Fudd
So are there any countries you're excited to travel to or play against?
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, honestly, we get, like a national team break where we get, like a week off, I think so. One of my Valkyries teammates is playing in Spain, and we were hoping to, like, meet up and, like, go travel somewhere cool, but we haven't quite figured out where that summer cool is yet. So maybe ask me in like, a month and then I would know.
Ashanti Plummer
We'll follow back up.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, follow up. I heard Budapest is really cool and pretty.
Ashanti Plummer
Do you have, like, a good amount of off days where you can, like, take a train somewhere and travel or.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, we at least get like one a week. Yesterday was, I guess, an off day, but we were traveling. The travel was pretty rough yesterday, though. It was like a four hour bus ride and then hour and a half plane ride, so that sort of sucks.
Az Fudd
Where did y' all go?
Caitlin Chen
We were. We went to Borges, France. I don't really know if you. That's how you pronounce it.
Ashanti Plummer
I need to pull up a map. I don't think I know where Prague even is.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, I also had to do that.
Az Fudd
Did you sightsee out and check? Because I know there's, like, a beautiful bridge with locks and, like, a rainbow buildings and a castle.
Caitlin Chen
I had one day of exploring so far here. I walked to the castle. I saw it from the outside. It was really pretty. And then I, like, walked into. Actually, no, that's a lie. I tried to take the tram. I went the wrong way. And then I got off and got an Uber and went to, like, the. More, like, center of the city, and I went shopping. I found them all there. And then I sort of just, like, walked around. But Prague is, like, beautiful. It looks so, like. I don't know how else to describe it, but, like, Europe.
Ashanti Plummer
But you just play all over Europe.
Caitlin Chen
We play, like, I think in France, Spain, and Poland.
Ashanti Plummer
You're gonna have some really cool stories and pictures, and I can't wait to.
Caitlin Chen
I know. I'm excited. Well, I sent you my pictures and you never responded, so I can open it?
Ashanti Plummer
I'm sorry.
Caitlin Chen
It's okay.
Az Fudd
Caitlin, you can send us your pictures.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. Also, for people who don't know, like, az's a horrible texter. I'm getting slipper will not respond.
Az Fudd
I actually mentioned that in, like, our first pod. I was like, I texted you. You didn't text back. But if she does pick up, if you like, FaceTime.
Caitlin Chen
Also a lie, because I just called her and she disturb still.
Ashanti Plummer
Usually I turn it off right away, but I didn't turn it off.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, I called you twice, and you still didn't pick up.
Az Fudd
Call MacKenzie. Yeah, call MacKenzie.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay. So after you're overseas, you're playing Athletes Unlimited. This is going to be your first season doing this. What are you looking forward to? And are there. Is there a team or people that you're most excited to play against or with?
Caitlin Chen
I'm excited for, like, the competition there. I feel like there are a lot of really, really great players, and honestly, just, like, meeting more people. Brie Hall's doing it, and we became friends when she was with the Valkyries a little. So I'm honestly excited for our month together in Nashville.
Ashanti Plummer
I was a huge fan of the TikToks. You guys made.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. See, it's like, I'll do them if you don't make me dance.
Az Fudd
Can you act? Because, you know, AZ has been doing a little acting lately, and I've been Loving it.
Caitlin Chen
Oh, I'm not really great at that either. It's gotta be, like, very basic, like one liners.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay. Okay.
Az Fudd
One liners. Or just like, guest appearances.
Caitlin Chen
Yes.
Az Fudd
Little drop ins.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay. Gotta start somewhere.
Az Fudd
So let's pivot and talk about the W. Caitlin, you were drafted while you were there in support of Paige. Walk us through that experience. When you heard your name, I feel.
Caitlin Chen
Like it was pretty exciting. They sort of tricked me a little, though, because for a sec, for a while, like, when the camera was like, in my face, it was like, dallas, up next. I was like, oh, this is great. Go, like, hang out with Paige for, like, two weeks of training camp, hopefully make a team, but if it doesn't, you know, and then hit like, jump to the Valkyries. And honestly, I was pretty excited, you know, to be back in California. Although everyone keeps saying, like, oh, you went home, but like, it's like a five hour drive, so not quite, but home state. Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Can you share with everyone your thought process going to the draft? I don't know if you want to share or not, but that to me was just such a Caitlin Chen. I thought it was very on par for who you are.
Caitlin Chen
I was like, I could get drafted. I could not. Honestly, I didn't think I was going to get drafted for a while.
Ashanti Plummer
No. I was just gonna make you elaborate and talk about how you were like, well, training camp is this long, but you have.
Caitlin Chen
Oh, yeah. So Princeton does, like, reunions every year and it's like, you know, the highlight of my year, it's when everyone sort of.
Az Fudd
I heard it's a good time.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, Everyone goes back and it's like you're sort of reunited with all your friends. Like, no one tells you that, like, college is so great and you don't really get to live with your friends like that anymore. But for unions, you guys spend four days with your besties. And so I was a little bummed that I might not be able to go if I were to, like, make a team. So I was like, you know what? I'll go to training camp, give it my all. If I make a team, I make a team. That's awesome. I'll be in the W. If I don't, I get to go to reunions.
Az Fudd
Oh, my God.
Caitlin Chen
And so, you know, I got waived and I was able to go to reunions. Had a blast. Love spending time with my friends there. And then went home, worked out a little, and got called back. And so everything honestly worked out really well.
Az Fudd
You got to do both.
Ashanti Plummer
It was Perfect.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, it was perfect. Couldn't have drawn it up better.
Ashanti Plummer
He really couldn't have.
Az Fudd
So after Paige got drafted, she advocated for you. What was it like hearing that from her?
Caitlin Chen
I feel like it's. It was really nice of her. I feel like that's just like how Paige is though. Like she's that kind of teammate that's always going to have your back and always going to like support you and like uplift you wherever she goes. Yeah.
Az Fudd
Az, you were there at the draft. What's your point of view of all of this happening? Seeing Paige get drafted, seeing Caitlin get drafted. What was your experience like?
Ashanti Plummer
I mean, Caitlyn was there and she was like, I'm not getting drafted, I'm not getting drafted. I'm like, caitlin, put something nice on, like make sure you look presentable because you're going to get drafted. So I knew she was going to get drafted.
Caitlin Chen
You didn't say that.
Ashanti Plummer
I did. I knew she was going to get drafted. But it doesn't change like even when you're expecting, it doesn't change. Hearing their name called, seeing them go up there on the stage and holding their jersey. So being able to be a part of that for all of them was really special. And getting to celebrate all of them and, and just share that, like that's a huge moment, a huge accomplishment. So it was an honor for all of us to just cheer her on and be her cheerleader.
Az Fudd
I love that. Look at y', all, tight knit family. Caitlin, you were the first Taiwanese player to be drafted in the W. What does that mean for you?
Caitlin Chen
I feel like it's pretty special. I don't think I quite realized that until like after I guess, but sort of just to be able to be like a role model for a younger Asian American athletes, it means a lot. Yeah. Because for us growing up, like there wasn't always someone to like look up to.
Ashanti Plummer
What was it like meeting Jeremy Lynn?
Caitlin Chen
That was cool. Yeah, that was like so sort of like random but not really random, but definitely cool experience because obviously like everyone knows Jeremy Lynn from Linsanity and everything. Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Yup.
Az Fudd
Big fan.
Ashanti Plummer
Did you get to talk to him at all or was it just like a. Hey, I'm Caitlin. Chad. Take a picture.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, I'm driving these two. Pretty brief but said hi. Take a picture.
Ashanti Plummer
So the Valkyrie's incredible fan energy. You guys called that Valhalla, right?
Caitlin Chen
Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay. Can you explain to the people who don't know, including me, what Valhalla means?
Caitlin Chen
The Valkyries, I guess their home place where they battle or home field is called Valhalla. So like, you know, for us it's called Valhalla, which is like Chase center and that's where we play. And honestly, it was amazing playing there. Like UConn obviously. Also amazing fans always like bring in. It's like sold out every home game. But like playing in Valhalla where it's like 18,000 fans every night and they go crazy from the start of the game to the end, no matter if you're winning or losing, it was pretty special.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, so you would say that it's crazier than gamble in there, I think.
Caitlin Chen
Just cause there are like 8,000 more fans.
Az Fudd
We had the stud buds on the pod and they actually mentioned that playing against you guys in that arena was the loudest, the most amazing and like crazy. So shout out to you guys being like a first year organization and your fans showing up the way that they do.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, they definitely showed up every game and it was like every game we'd be like, oh, that was the loudest it's ever been. And then the next game we'd be like, oh my God, it was even louder.
Az Fudd
They turned up in that Bay area.
Caitlin Chen
Definitely something you should experience. If you haven't.
Az Fudd
Girl, with you. There we go. Make it happen. So your dad went to a Golden State versus Dallas game and you were playing and he wore a page jersey. What was that about?
Caitlin Chen
You know, he loves Paige and so he was like, this is my one chance to wear my Paige jersey.
Az Fudd
Oh my goodness. Not the game with his daughter pulling out.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, don't worry. He talked to me before and I honestly thought it would be pretty funny. So I was like, yeah, go for it.
Ashanti Plummer
So being waived and then being re signed again, did it affect your relationship with your team at all?
Caitlin Chen
Not that much. Cause I mean, it's like training camp. And training camp is sort of quick. You like get to know people, but not that much. And then when I came back, everyone was just super welcoming and I felt like it was pretty easy to like fit in and, you know, get along with everyone.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, you seem like you guys got along. Like you guys had a good, good team chemistry.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, we definitely had a special group. Everyone got along super well. There was never any really locker room drama or anything like that. And I felt like everyone was just super selfless, like doing whatever they could for the best of the team.
Ashanti Plummer
That's amazing.
Az Fudd
Well, it definitely paid off because you guys made it to the playoffs, which is like unheard of for a first year team. So congratulations. On all your success that you had with them.
Caitlin Chen
Thanks.
Az Fudd
Your coach, Natalie Nakase won Coach of the Year. What is the biggest thing that you learned from her?
Caitlin Chen
Honestly, just like how to be a leader. I felt like she held us point guards especially to like a high standard of like this is like your team and whatever happens, if it goes poorly, that's on you. So you got to make sure that you're holding everyone accountable and like doing everything within your power to make sure the team is prepared.
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Az Fudd
Come on AC let's get into some fan questions from Instagram.
Caitlin Chen
Oh God.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, so there were a ton of fan questions, so pair yourselves. They're kind of all over the place. The first one was what was your welcome to the W moment?
Caitlin Chen
Honestly, probably just training camp and having to guard Veronica. That was sort of rough. She was just so strong. Like I feel like I'd be there in front of her and she just, just finish right over me and I'd be like oh darn, not again.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, she's good. She played. She was fun to watch this year.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, she was incredible. She's amazing player, even better person.
Az Fudd
What's your pregame routine?
Caitlin Chen
Pregame routine? Take a fat nap.
Az Fudd
I thought you gonna say something else girl.
Caitlin Chen
That too. Yeah. Honestly I don't have like a ton of like. Like I feel like I'm superstitious but not like pre game routine ishes, you know.
Ashanti Plummer
So what are you superstitious about?
Caitlin Chen
Like little stuff like if we. Well I guess this doesn't apply as much anymore but like in college like if we want a game, I just wear the same socks, wear the same underwear. I would wash it obviously, but.
Ashanti Plummer
Same.
Caitlin Chen
Spandex, same sports bra.
Ashanti Plummer
What was your favorite food spot in the bay?
Caitlin Chen
Oh, I feel like I'm going to get hate for this. But honestly the sweet green by my apartment, Amazing. Like one of the best sweet greens that I've ever Had. And they would give you, like, so much, too. Or the taco place or burrito place me and Paige went to when she came to visit. That place was fire.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, take me there when I come to visit.
Caitlin Chen
Well, you were supposed to come visit. And.
Az Fudd
You know what?
Ashanti Plummer
I deserve that. I deserve that.
Caitlin Chen
She was literally in San Francisco for, like, the three days I wasn't there.
Az Fudd
Oh, no.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah.
Ashanti Plummer
Really unfortunate.
Caitlin Chen
Really unfortunate.
Az Fudd
So who is your favorite UConn women's basketball alum?
Caitlin Chen
Oh, Pagebackers.
Ashanti Plummer
I knew you're gonna say that. Which W team and which player was the toughest opponent?
Caitlin Chen
Guys, these are hard because I didn't really play that much. So, like, what did it look like? You know, what did it look like? Minnesota is definitely tough. I mean, they have so many really great players that can spread the floor, and they play together for a few years now, so they just, like, play off each other super well. Yeah.
Az Fudd
What's your favorite music genre and artists?
Caitlin Chen
I don't think I have a favorite artist music genre. I like country and some R and B.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, I like that, too.
Az Fudd
Luke Bryant.
Caitlin Chen
Good.
Ashanti Plummer
How did you guys come up with the bench celebrations? When someone scored, honestly, a lot of.
Caitlin Chen
It would be, like, on the fly or like, after we do something, we'd be like, oh, let's do this next, and then, you know, we do it. Yeah, but that was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Really fun games. When we make a lot of threes.
Az Fudd
What'S something you didn't expect after going.
Caitlin Chen
Probably, I think I didn't realize how much I would like this life because I always was sort of like, oh, you know, maybe I'll play, like, a few years overseas and then go find a real job. But this job is, like, pretty great. Like, all I have to do is wake up and play basketball. It's really fun.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, start. Bench. Cut. Princeton, UConn and the Valkyries.
Caitlin Chen
Guys, I can't do that. This is so hard.
Ashanti Plummer
This is a pretty hard one.
Caitlin Chen
I feel like I'm gonna get shit for anything that I say.
Ashanti Plummer
You definitely are. There's no right answer here.
Caitlin Chen
I feel like I gotta start. Princeton, you know, that's just like home. You know, that's where I was.
Az Fudd
Shout out to the Ivy's.
Caitlin Chen
Wouldn't be there or wouldn't have gone anywhere else if it wasn't for there. Why can't I just, like, bench both of them?
Ashanti Plummer
Gotta cut one.
Az Fudd
Caitlyn, they're watching.
Caitlin Chen
I know.
Az Fudd
So you can.
Caitlin Chen
You can really say whatever, but honestly, that's hard. Probably Ben Chukon cut the Valkyries just because, you know, like, I don't know, both seasons were so special, but winning a national championship was pretty incredible. And also, like, I'll have a lot more years at the Valkyrie so they can make their way up.
Az Fudd
First come, first serve, baby.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, this was a really popular one. What's your quad routine?
Caitlin Chen
Oh, God, I don't even understand why everyone's talking about my quads like that. Like, they're not like, Caitlyn, you have big quads, but your legs are strong. I know I have strong legs, but, like, have you seen your legs? Your. Your quads are just as big.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, but like. Yeah, no, I feel like it looks different on you. Like, yours just like, they look so, like.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, maybe because my arms are, like, skinny, so, like, my legs stick out.
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Caitlin Chen
I don't have a quad routine. Like, I mean, natural.
Az Fudd
I just woke up like this.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, east coast or West Coast?
Caitlin Chen
Oh, hard. That's really hard because I like both a lot, you know, but probably west Coast. I do love being home. But then I get FOMO when I'm on the west coast because all my friends are on the east Coast.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, another really popular question. How was Cabo?
Caitlin Chen
Oh, so much fun. It was so great. That was like my four days of summer because it's so cold in San Francisco in the summer, so that was really nice. And honestly, just being with the boys was a lot of fun.
Ashanti Plummer
It looked like fun. You look like you have some color.
Az Fudd
Who are the boys?
Caitlin Chen
I don't know why, but we started calling, like, you know how. Normally it's like the girls, but for some reason we're the boys. Yeah, I think Kate had a big part in that.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, this is another hard question. What is your all time starting five with your Valkyries, UConn and Princeton teammates?
Caitlin Chen
Starting five. Is this like. Like we're trying to win?
Ashanti Plummer
It can be. You're trying to have a good time, you're trying to win whatever you want. Let's.
Az Fudd
Let's do try to win first. That's actually the most popular question after we asked this. Are we winning or having fun?
Caitlin Chen
All right, to win from Princeton, you know, I gotta go with Ellie. She's a beast on the boards.
Ashanti Plummer
Ellie. Only if she has her bow in her hair. Tell her I said that.
Caitlin Chen
Honestly, I never experienced bow, Ellie, and I'm sort of glad I didn't. I definitely would have made fun of her a lot for that.
Ashanti Plummer
You definitely would have.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. But Ellie, UConn, that's hard. Probably Az Paige and Sarah.
Ashanti Plummer
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Caitlin Chen
And then I would go with V. Veronica from the backers.
Az Fudd
Girl, you're not picking you.
Caitlin Chen
No, I'm just picking. I didn't know. Like, was I supposed to put me on it? Like, I know that was an option.
Ashanti Plummer
No, no.
Az Fudd
Oh, anyone you want. But I think that's a solid five though.
Ashanti Plummer
I like that team. I feel like it'd be good vibes too.
Caitlin Chen
Definitely.
Az Fudd
Yeah.
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So now we're gonna do fudding games. The first one is the what the fud of the week. Our what the fud of the week is something that happened this week that made you say what the fud? Kaitlyn, do you have a what the fud of the week?
Caitlin Chen
I actually do. It was our dinner at the hotel our day before the game. So there was chicken, you know, got the chicken, cut it open, it was rough. It was just like straight pink inside. No. And our coach goes around, guys, don't eat the chicken. We're like, got it. Won't be eating the chicken.
Ashanti Plummer
Oh my gosh.
Az Fudd
This was before a game.
Caitlin Chen
This was the night before. And then they brought out some more chicken that was cooked, but still like what was that chicken even doing out there in the first place?
Az Fudd
Girl, who were you gonna play against? Cause this game is set up. That's insane. LeBron's retirement fake out. So he did like a whole setup like his original decision day. So he's like big decision happening. Tune in 12 o' clock on this date and it just turns out it was an ad for Hennessy. Let me tell you something, LeBron. The prices for Laker tickets just off of him saying something went from like $200 to $2,000. Cause he want to play around on Instagram and Twitter talking about decision happening. So now I've been priced out of any Laker game because LeBron wanted to play around. But it also speaks to like his influence. He's moving the needle because $1800 difference. Cause he just said a decision needs to be made.
Caitlin Chen
It's crazy.
Az Fudd
Definitely my what the FUD of the week.
Caitlin Chen
Az. What's your what the fud?
Ashanti Plummer
My what the fut of the week Is that Nick from Love island again? I don't watch it, so it's like whatever to me. But my teammates freaked out. Nick from Love island was at Ted's on a Wednesday.
Caitlin Chen
He was at Ted's?
Ashanti Plummer
Yes, also on a Wednesday.
Caitlin Chen
What was he doing at Ted's?
Ashanti Plummer
I have no idea. I was told he's doing some, like, Greek frat something college tour. But I think a couple of my teammates went to meet him and I was like, what the heck, guys? I was just like, what the fuck? You know?
Az Fudd
You were like, what the fuck?
Ashanti Plummer
Why is he there? So the next game that we're playing is called Eurotrip. You're in Prague with a new team, new culture, new adventures. So we're gonna test your European survival skills. Today we're going to give you a situation and you're going to tell us what you do. You ready? You walk into a grocery store and realize that everything is labeled in check. You need toothpaste. How do you find it?
Caitlin Chen
I go to the, you know, the toothpaste aisle and then I find the toothpaste. This is actually like something that I happened to me. Like, I couldn't find the. Or I had to go get shampoo and conditioner body wash. And it was honestly harder than expected. I was staring at the. I was staring at the aisle thing for like five minutes.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, well, I feel like those things all look the same too, so you can't even eyeball.
Caitlin Chen
And it took me a while to find lotion, and I still haven't found salt and pepper. I had trouble with that yesterday.
Ashanti Plummer
Can you ask someone? Or they don't speak English.
Caitlin Chen
Well, sometimes I get a little nervous because, you know, I don't want to sound dumb. Like, imagine someone asks where the salt and pepper is. It's embarrassing.
Az Fudd
Bring your teammate with you.
Ashanti Plummer
Bring your teammate with you. Okay. Next, your new teammates invite you to try traditional Czech goulash. You're unsure of what's in it. Do you say yes or politely? Pass.
Caitlin Chen
I feel like it depends how it looks like. If it looks like it would be good, then, yeah, I'll try.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, so say it looks a little sketchy.
Caitlin Chen
I would ask what's in it and then maybe take a small, small bite.
Ashanti Plummer
Thank you.
Caitlin Chen
Thank you.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, you have A team meeting that starts at 9 o'. Clock. You show up at 8:55, but everyone else rolls in at 9:15. Next time, do you go by American time or Europe time?
Caitlin Chen
I think still American time because I would get stressed if I showed up late.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah, better safe than sorry. All right, your teammates celebrate a win at a cafe instead of blasting music in the locker room. What's your move? Do you join in or start a vibe shift?
Caitlin Chen
I feel like you join in, like, you know, see what it's like. If it isn't great, then switch it up next time.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, so you realize that Thanksgiving isn't celebrated there. How do you recreate it abroad with your teammates?
Caitlin Chen
Friendsgiving. Duh. Everyone bring something.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay, so you're just gonna leave it open ended? Like everyone. All the foreigners just bring like your favorite go to dish and just have like a melting pot of Thanksgiving?
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, I guess so. Because if I made them like make American Thanksgiving food, like, it probably wouldn't be very good.
Ashanti Plummer
Caitlin, can you even cook? Like, what would you bring to this thing?
Caitlin Chen
Friendsgiving bread, pumpkin stuff.
Ashanti Plummer
Okay.
Az Fudd
She's providing the space for it to go down.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah, exactly. My humble apartment.
Az Fudd
Okay, so the next game is Ivy Auriemma, you both played for Gino, who's known for his quotes, and Caitlin, you went to Princeton. I'm going to read you two a quote and you tell us if it came from an Ivy League scholar or Gino Auriemma. Discipline is the bridge between goals and accomplishments.
Caitlin Chen
Who said this?
Ashanti Plummer
Ivy League.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah. We're also going to go Ivy League.
Az Fudd
Yep. Ivy. Jim Rohn. Sounds like Gino, though.
Ashanti Plummer
I feel like they're all gonna sound like it could be coach.
Az Fudd
Next one. If you can't play hard all the time, you shouldn't play at all.
Ashanti Plummer
Coach.
Caitlin Chen
Coach.
Az Fudd
Definitely, definitely.
Caitlin Chen
Coach.
Ashanti Plummer
Yep.
Az Fudd
The purpose of education is to replace an empty mind with an open one.
Ashanti Plummer
Ivy League.
Caitlin Chen
Ivy.
Ashanti Plummer
Yep.
Az Fudd
Ivy. Malcolm Forbes. If your best player isn't your hardest worker, your team's in trouble.
Ashanti Plummer
Coach.
Az Fudd
Yup. Oh, y' all are good. Excellence is never an accident. It is a result of high intentions and sincere effort.
Caitlin Chen
Ivy. I feel like.
Az Fudd
Yeah, yep, that's Ivy. Aristotle. You don't need balance in your life. You need commitment.
Caitlin Chen
Coach. Yeah, I was also gonna go coach.
Az Fudd
Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Some good listeners. Yes, that's Coach. The more you know, the more you realize you don't know.
Caitlin Chen
I feel like that's definitely something he could have said at some point.
Ashanti Plummer
Can you repeat that one?
Az Fudd
The more you know, the more you realize you don't know.
Ashanti Plummer
I also feel like that's something you could have said, but I think I'm still gonna go. Ivy.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah.
Az Fudd
Yeah, I agree it was Ivy.
Caitlin Chen
But I feel like he said something like that or. I don't know.
Ashanti Plummer
I'm sure he has.
Caitlin Chen
Yeah.
Az Fudd
Well, maybe he got it from an Ivy League scholar. Sometimes the toughest lesson is learning to be coached.
Caitlin Chen
Coach.
Az Fudd
Coach. Yep, that's coach. Knowledge will give you power, but character will give you respect.
Caitlin Chen
Ivy.
Ashanti Plummer
Ivy.
Az Fudd
Yes. Bruce Lee quote, we don't recruit talent, we recruit toughness.
Ashanti Plummer
Coach.
Caitlin Chen
Coach.
Az Fudd
You got it. Y' all killed that. Y' all got every single one, right?
Ashanti Plummer
Well, the Ivy League ones are, like, a little more like, thoughtful and like, big words. And coaches, like, straight to the point.
Caitlin Chen
And coaches were all about, like, coaching.
Ashanti Plummer
Yeah.
Caitlin Chen
Coach.
Ashanti Plummer
All right, that is a wrap on today's episode. Caitlin Chen, thank you so much for joining us from Prague.
Caitlin Chen
Thanks for having me.
Az Fudd
Thank you, Caitlin.
Ashanti Plummer
Good luck this season. And everyone, thank you so much for tuning in today. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to FUD around and find out wherever you get your podcasts and we'll see you next week. Fud around and Find out is a production of I Heart Women's Sports and Unanimous Media. Executive producers are Jesse Katz, Eric Payton, Sharla Sumter, Brigitte and Stephen Curry. Co executive producer is Kalena Maria Kutney. Producers are Mike Coscarelli and co producers are Kurt Redmond, Maya Howard and Jaclyn Schoeninger. This podcast is edited by Mike Coscarelli and hosted by Me, Az Fudd and Ashanti Plummer. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long?
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Date: October 17, 2025
Host(s): Azzi Fudd & Ashanti Plummer
Guest: Kaitlyn Chen
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts and Unanimous Media
This lively episode features special guest Kaitlyn Chen, fresh off a WNBA rookie year and currently playing pro basketball in Prague. Hosts Azzi Fudd and Ashanti Plummer dig into Kaitlyn’s journey from Princeton to UConn to the pros, navigating life overseas, and embracing her Taiwanese heritage as a trailblazer. Expect inside stories, real talk about transitions on and off the court, and plenty of laughs—plus, classic team chemistry games and candid answers to fan questions.
On Adjusting to Pro Ball:
"I didn't realize how much more physical professional basketball would be compared to college, although I probably should have." — Kaitlyn Chen (13:28)
On Unique Teammate Traditions:
"We used to... if we were on trips on the bus, we would Wordle, Connect and Hashtag." — Ashanti Plummer (09:08)
"If we won a game, I just wear the same socks... same underwear... same sports bra." — Kaitlyn Chen (29:20)
On Bread... and Birthdays:
"A loaf of bread. Like a shirt that said I heart bread and like, one of those, like, big stuffed animal loaves." — Kaitlyn Chen (04:45)
On Family Support (and Dad's Jersey):
"My dad went to a Golden State vs Dallas game where I was playing and wore a Paige jersey... He loves Paige!" — Kaitlyn Chen (23:12)
Kaitlyn Chen’s journey from Ivy League star to National Champion at UConn, to WNBA rookie and then to pro hooping overseas is as dynamic as it is relatable. The episode is packed with practical athlete wisdom, stories about friendship and adjustment, and a behind-the-scenes look at the women’s basketball pipeline. Kaitlyn’s self-awareness, humor, and unfiltered openness—alongside Azzi and Ashanti’s camaraderie—make this a must-listen for sports fans and anyone curious about the real lives of athletes.
Notable Quotes:
For first-timers and fans alike, this episode delivers a compelling and fun inside look at women’s basketball, identity, and teammate sisterhood.