Stubbs Serves The Truth w/ Rennae Stubbs

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fudd Around And Find Out

Episode: "Stubbs Serves The Truth w/ Rennae Stubbs"
Date: September 11, 2025
Host: Azzi Fudd (UConn basketball star)
Co-host: Ashanti Plummer
Guest: Rennae Stubbs (six-time Grand Slam tennis champ, coach, commentator, podcast host)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode explores the intersections of elite athletics, personal growth, and the rise of women’s sports. Azzi Fudd and Ashanti Plummer welcome tennis legend Rennae Stubbs for a candid conversation about their recent experiences—from the Basketball Hall of Fame and the US Open to Fashion Week and navigating the spotlight. The back half of the episode delivers wisdom on resilience, sports culture, and the evolving respect for women athletes, and closes with lighthearted games that highlight Aussie slang and iconic women's sports figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hall of Fame Experiences & Star Encounters

Timestamps: 03:06–06:07

• Azzi’s Take on the Hall of Fame:

  • Azzi recaps attending Maya Moore and Sue Bird’s induction into the Basketball Hall of Fame, calling it a special and inspiring experience.
  • “Sharing that special moment with them and getting to see them… their speeches were beautiful.” (Az Fudd, 03:22)

• Star-studded Attendees:

  • Ashanti highlights Carmelo Anthony’s induction and the presence of the 2008 "Redeem Team" (LeBron, Chris Paul).
  • “Literally, Melo, I saw him a couple days ago because he's like an investor in the gym that I'm running right now.” (Ashanti Plummer, 03:55)

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2. Team Bonding & Pop Culture

Timestamps: 04:52–06:07

• Sunday Movie Nights:

  • The UConn women’s basketball team bonds over meals and movies, including a film with a viral TikTok quote.
  • “I started tearing up. Now I know why people love this quote.” (Az Fudd, 05:29)

• Music and Deeper Meanings:

  • Ashanti shares how music and film can connect to cultural roots and resonate beyond sports.

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3. Anticipation & Style: New York Fashion Week

Timestamps: 06:13–09:59

• Excitement for NYFW:

  • The co-hosts discuss their fashion inspirations, favorite foods (NY pizza, soul food), and style preparation for Fashion Week.
  • “I’m excited to dress up, get glam, you know, wear stuff that I don’t usually wear, and then see what everyone else is wearing.” (Az Fudd, 06:36)

• Personal Stylists:

  • Ashanti’s mom is highlighted as her personal stylist for major events.
  • Fun debate on pineapple on pizza, with Az in favor but Ashanti against it.

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4. US Open Adventures & Tennis Culture

Timestamps: 10:04–16:14

• Azzi at the US Open:

  • Az recounts her first doubles match experience at the Open, thanks to Rennae Stubbs’ hospitality.
  • “Watching Venus play… it was one of the coolest things.” (Az Fudd, 15:26)

• Behind-the-Scenes of Tennis:

  • “The US Open is wild… everything’s surrounded by noise… just manic and crazy.” (Rennae Stubbs, 16:24)
  • Rennae discusses the unique, electric atmosphere of the Open and hosting Azzi and her teammates.

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5. Spotlight on Tennis – Technicals, Adversity, and Comebacks

Timestamps: 17:02–19:28

• Match Highlights & Technical Challenges:

  • Rennae analyzes major players at the Open—Coco Gauff, Naomi Osaka, Amanda Anisimova—focusing on technical evolutions, setbacks, and comebacks.
  • “Amanda lost 6-0, 6-0 in the finals of Wimbledon… and now look where she’s at, four in the world, killing it.” (Renee Stubbs, 18:22)

• Parallels With Basketball:

  • Discussing how all athletes must overcome flaws and adversity.
  • “To hear other athletes come back at that level… it’s so impressive.” (Az Fudd, 19:12)

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6. Funny Moments – The Sticker on the Glasses

Timestamps: 19:28–20:59

• Rennae reveals she wore a sticker on her glasses for days before Az pulled it off, sparking jokes about friends never telling her.
• “Many people actually were like, love your glasses! … Thank God for Az, who’s at an age where she goes, ‘No, those are not supposed to be on there.’” (Rennae Stubbs, 19:49)

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7. Women’s Sports, Fashion, and Breaking Boundaries

Timestamps: 21:01–27:00

• Style and Identity:

  • Rennae describes her “lesbian chic” style and avoidance of dresses/patterns.
  • “I love rocking a tie… kind of like lesbian chic. That’s my vibe.” (Rennae Stubbs, 21:51)

• Fashion in Women’s Sports:

  • Noting Serena Williams and Naomi Osaka as trendsetters blending athleticism with style.
  • “Women athletes are arguably some of the most high-profile people in the world... a young girl can be like, oh I can play sports and be cool as well.” (Rennae Stubbs, 21:58)

• Greatest Athletic Achievement:

  • Rennae’s first major (Australian Open) described as hard-won and made sweeter by her family’s presence.
  • “There’s nothing that substitutes the first time you do it, because you finally achieve something you’ve dreamed about your whole life.” (Rennae Stubbs, 23:31)

• Olympic Nerves and Mental Strategies:

  • Competing for Australia in Sydney was her proudest Olympic moment.
  • When nerves peaked:
    “I just said to myself… do what you do.” (Renee Stubbs, 25:34)

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8. On the Future of Women’s Sports

Timestamps: 27:00–30:37

• Growing Respect & Popularity:

  • Rennae lauds women's leagues’ growth and increased public/financial support.
  • “Everyone’s finally caught up to the fact that women’s sport is entertaining… Do not compare it to men’s. Do not say, well they can’t do this. No, they can’t—they’re women. But respect what they are doing.” (Rennae Stubbs, 27:07)

• Respect Over Comparison:

  • Debates the futility of comparing women athletes to men; advocates for respect, not comparison.

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9. Tips for New Podcasters

Timestamps: 30:37–31:37

• Rennae’s podcasting advice:
  • “Be curious… the best thing about [interviews] is to learn things from them and be curious about it.” (Rennae Stubbs, 30:42)

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10. Life & Culture in Australia

Timestamps: 31:37–33:22

• Lifestyle Differences:
  • Rennae and Ashanti reminisce about Australian culture, work-life balance, and vibrant community spirit.
  • “Australians work to get to the weekend, and Americans work to get ahead.” (Rennae Stubbs, 31:47)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Venus Williams’ Longevity:
  “She’s moving on the court and playing as well as she is... watching her serve was unreal.” (Az Fudd, 29:15)

• On Respect:
  “I just—the one word I want people to remember when they talk about women’s sports is respect.” (Rennae Stubbs, 29:38)

• Aussie Humor:
  (On wearing glasses with the sticker on for days) “I was like, so all of my friends, quote-unquote, let me walk around with this. Either that or they thought it was part of the glasses. Thank God for Az.” (Renee Stubbs, 19:49)

• Olympic Advice:
  "Do what you do and don’t let the bad stuff affect the things you know you do better than everybody else.” (Renee Stubbs, 26:51)

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Fun & Games: Aussie Slang and Name Mash-ups

Timestamps: 36:53–49:15

1. What the FUD of the Week: Renee’s “star-studded box” at the US Open (Chelsea Handler, Shonda Rhimes, Naomi Watts) and how sport brings remarkable people together.
   (37:02–38:36)

2. Aussie Slang Quiz:
   The crew guesses the meaning of phrases like “frothy” (beer), “Maccas” (McDonald’s), “drongo” (idiot), “budgie smuggler” (men’s Speedo), “Straya” (Australia), “ripper” (awesome), and “fair dinkum” (for real, seriously).

   • “I’m sort of like lesbian chic. That’s my vibe.” (Renee Stubbs, 21:51)
   • "A good yarn. I’m having a good chat.” (Renee Stubbs, 40:49)

3. WNBA Labubu Naming Game:

   • Playful mashups of famous WNBA names (“Saboo,” “Shaloops,” “Fudalicious”).
     (44:43–49:15)

4. Sign-Off:
   Warm send-offs and mutual admiration seal the episode.
   “Az, I can’t wait to see you this season. I’m going to be watching big time.” (Renee Stubbs, 49:24)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:22] Azzi on Basketball Hall of Fame
• [06:13] New York Fashion Week Anticipation
• [10:04] US Open Social Media, Tennis Experiences
• [15:26] Azzi's Impressions Watching Venus Williams
• [18:22] Rennae on Amanda Anisimova’s Comeback
• [21:51] Rennae on Personal Style
• [23:31] Rennae’s Greatest Athletic Achievement
• [25:34] Coping with Olympic Nerves (“do what you do”)
• [27:07] Women’s Sports: Respect vs. Comparison
• [29:38] “Respect” as the Key Word Episode
• [30:42] Podcaster Advice: "Be curious"
• [31:47] Culture: Australia vs. US
• [37:02] What the FUD of the Week: Rennae’s Star Box
• [38:52] Aussie Slang Quiz
• [44:43] WNBA “Labubu” Name Game
• [49:24] Rennae's sign-off and support for Azzi

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Original Vibe

The episode’s energy is fun, fast-moving, and filled with the camaraderie of accomplished women athletes. Rennae Stubbs brings a confident, witty, and encouraging voice, meshing tennis wisdom with honest storytelling. Azzi and Ashanti’s banter about food, family, nervous moments, and playful fashion debates gives the conversation warmth, making serious insights accessible, and never losing their sense of fun.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a must-listen for those curious about the behind-the-scenes realities of legendary athletic careers, the evolving culture of women's sports, and the personalities behind the headlines. It’s equally rewarding for anyone just needing some laughs, lessons on mental resilience, or a crash course in Aussie slang.

Transcript

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[Az Fudd]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Fut around and find out. I'm here with my amazing co host, Ashanti. Hey, guys.

[Ashanti Plummer]

We're so excited for another episode. We have so much to talk about, and I cannot wait to get into it because one of my favorite weeks is coming up. But we'll get into that later. But first, you were recently at the Basketball hall of Fame. Tell us all about that.

[Az Fudd]

I was. So we got invited, the team got invited, and some other student athletes to go down to support Maya Moore and Sue Bird be inducted into the hall of Fame. And I'd never been before, so I thought, you know, that'd be a really cool experience. Also seeing two of the greats, like, that's an incredible opportunity. So we went, had our business casual fits on, you know, and it was super cool. It was very long. I didn't really know what to expect, but it was really cool to be able to, you know, share that special moment with them and get to see them. And their speeches were beautiful. So it was really cool.

[Ashanti Plummer]

It looked beautiful. I mean, listen, girl, you got things in common with Maya and Sue. You got a championship under your belt, and who knows, that may be your future one day. So that's dope. Also, my favorite player ever was there. So for women, Maya Moore is my favorite. But, you know, for the fellas, Carmelo Anthony was there, and I saw he got inducted. I think the 2008 redeemed team was also inducted. And I saw LeBron and Chris Paul and a bunch of other players, so that was definitely awesome. And then, of course, I tuned into Carmelo's speech. It was beautiful. I was tearing up, getting emotional. But yeah, I. I thought that was super awesome. Especially because, like, literally, Melo, I saw him like a couple of days ago because he's like an investor in the gym that I'm running right now. So, yeah, that was dope to see him up there. But, yeah, my boy just doing great things. Doing great things.

[Az Fudd]

Yeah, there were a lot of greats in the building.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So you're still up at school. Tell me about how it's been bonding with your team. I heard you guys are tuning into some fun movies.

[Az Fudd]

Sunday night we had a movie night was kind of rainy on Sunday, so it's like a chill day. Kelis cooked breakfast for people again.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Kelis is cooking. Okay, girl.

[Az Fudd]

So I was like, let's watch dinners. Khalees and I have been wanting to watch it. KK Loves it. I don't remember if Kaylee said she had seen it or not. So we decided to have a movie night. And it was actually really good. I'd been seeing that. Like, the last quote from the movie. The last time I seen my brother was the last time I seen the sun on TikTok a lot. Like, I never under. I was like, huh? Like, I don't really get it.

[Renee Stubbs]

I.

[Az Fudd]

We watched. I started tearing up. I was like, wow, this. Now I know why. Loves this quote.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yeah, I love that movie. I remember when it came out, I watched it probably, like eight times. First of all, Michael B. Jordan.

[Az Fudd]

And there's two of them.

[Ashanti Plummer]

And there's two of them. It couldn't get better. There's a lot of deeper meaning in the music. I'm, like, super tuned in with music. So for me, the music definitely. Like, there was, like, one specific scene where they took it back the history of music back to, like, African roots, and then there was some, like, Asian roots. It was just. It was beautiful and really, really well written and beautifully directed. So.

[Az Fudd]

I agree. I feel like I already. Already need to rewatch it to catch up on those things that I missed. But that scene was beautiful. You're right.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So to quick pivot. New York Fashion Week is coming up.

[Az Fudd]

Girl, is.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I'm so looking forward to it. You're coming to the city, I'm hearing. New York Fashion Week, I mentioned it earlier, is one of my favorite weeks in New York. I'm so looking forward to all the fits, all the parties, all the anything you're specifically looking forward to.

[Az Fudd]

I'm excited for the shows. I'm excited to dress up, get glam, you know, wear stuff that I don't usually wear, and then see what everyone else is wearing. Excited to see you. I can't wait. New York food. Little things for me.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Wait. Absolutely. Girl, there's so much. I know we talked about pizza before, but you. Of course. It's like a staple. You gotta try the pizza. Gotta try the soul food. Listen, you know what? I really love a good New York Chinese spot. Oh, that hits. What, you don't like Chinese food?

[Renee Stubbs]

No, I do.

[Az Fudd]

It does sound really good. But I'm eating really healthy, so I don't know how crazy I can get.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay, that's fair. We'll stick to, like, dang. We'll put veggies on your pizza or something? I don't know.

[Az Fudd]

Do you like pineapple on pizza?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, man. You trying to get me controversial? All right, ladies and gentlemen, I do not like pineapple on my pizza. It doesn't belong. It doesn't belong. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.

[Az Fudd]

It does belong, but that's okay.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I can't get with it. One of my favorite stylists, Back to Fashion Week is actually in the building. My mother is my absolute favorite stylist. You think I'm kidding? I'm telling you, anytime I've ever looked good, it's because she put it on me. And so I've been invited out to a couple events this coming week, and she has. Is dressing me for every single one, so I'm excited.

[Az Fudd]

I love that. I'm gonna need to hire her. Can you let her know that I.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Told her to come ready? I showed her some of the fits that you like. And listen, she'll put you in something, no joke. You just say the word and she'll work it out.

[Az Fudd]

Okay. Because you always look good.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So don't hide me, girl. Don't hide me like that. Thank you. No.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah.

[Ashanti Plummer]

She even picked this out. This is like a denim onesie. Not onesie, but like one piece jumper. And I got some boots on, but I'm not about to. I'm not that flexible. I'm not about to pull that up for you.

[Az Fudd]

Shout out, Mom.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So what kind of looks do you have planned for Fashion Week?

[Az Fudd]

I have no idea.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay.

[Az Fudd]

I'm more of a, you know, show up and put it on.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay, listen. Show up and put that thing on. Okay.

[Az Fudd]

What does mom have planned for you?

[Ashanti Plummer]

So she actually showed me some earlier today. Definitely some denim. That's. You're always going to find something denim. Something fluffy with good texture and a pop of color that's like staples. So we got some fun things coming up I'm really excited about. There's like a leather top and denim skirt look. I can't wait to get into it. But I'm really looking forward to your looks, girl, because I haven't seen you look bad, so I can't wait. I'm still stuck on. Not to take it too far back, but All Star Weekend. The pink, like, what was that? Like a pink. Like.

[Az Fudd]

Like the skirt suit?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yes, the skirt suit with the shoulders. I'm telling you.

[Az Fudd]

Like, you could post pictures from.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Please listen, the fans have been asking for the All Star Weekend drop.

[Az Fudd]

So good. I can't just let them sit in my camera roll, you know?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Listen, you heard it here first, y'.

[Renee Stubbs]

All.

[Ashanti Plummer]

She gonna drop them pics soon at some point, but. Okay, how about before the year's over?

[Az Fudd]

Okay, thanks. I can do that.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay. And definitely, definitely show the fans the pink fit is. You're gonna see me commenting. Girl, I'm gonna be right there. Like, yes, she put that on.

[Az Fudd]

You know what? Maybe I should post a dump from last year's US Open too.

[Ashanti Plummer]

You didn't post from last year's US Open.

[Az Fudd]

No, and I have some cute pictures, too. My caption in honor of the US Open.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Not only that, weren't you just at the US Open? I definitely saw you doing TikToks and having a good old time.

[Az Fudd]

I was just there. I was there with MacKenzie, KK and Renee Stubbs. It was a lot of fun.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Ooh. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back for a very special guest.

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[Az Fudd]

All right everybody, welcome back from the break. We have a very special guest here with us who I am super excited to have on because I might have only just met her pretty recently, but I think that she is one of the coolest people I've met this past, I guess summer. That was like kind of summer when we met. So I'm super excited to have her on. Great person, great personality and great knowledge about the game of tennis.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Our guest is a six time Grand Slam champion. She coached some of the game's biggest names including Serena Williams and is a familiar voice on espn, NBC and the Tennis Channel. Now she brings her sharp insight and wit to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, part of iHeart Women's Sports. It's Renee Stubbs.

[Renee Stubbs]

Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I mean AZ came out to the US Open, she drove down from Connecticut to come and see some great tennis with Coco and with Venus. So she got to see the absolute spectrums of the most amazing tennis champions. And it was great to have her there with a bunch of other of her UConn alums. And it was great to just have AY at the tennis and introducing you to another sport was a. It was a lot of fun. But it's really fun to be here with you guys.

[Az Fudd]

That was super fun. So thank you for having us at the Open. Renee let us go up to the. What was like the ESPN booth.

[Renee Stubbs]

Well, there's an outdoor booth on Armstrong Stadium. And so it's kind of like a random place. We're usually inside a booth, but there we're actually outside and we just kind of shimmered some seats along the side of our booth there for. For the girls to sit and it was a lot of fun.

[Az Fudd]

It was so cool. That environment, watching Venus play. I mean, I don't know, I've never what was my first doubles match. And it was incredible that, that environment, them watching them, it was. It was one of the coolest things.

[Renee Stubbs]

I just love showing other athletes, particularly around, like, different. I mean, az, you know, I loved the wnba. It's like my favorite thing to do. I think I've told everyone that hasn't been to a Liberty game. What are you doing with yourself? You have no life. You haven't been to game here in New York. So it's like I like to also introduce tennis to people that are lovers of various different sports because the atmosphere at the US Open is second to none at any Grand Slam. The noise, the chaos of the US Open. And yeah, so it's sort of similar to me. I'm like, you haven't been to a Liberty game. What is wrong with you? So anyway, I love that our worlds have collided.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So I want to know some behind the scenes, like things that the fans did not get to see at the US Open. I personally have never been. I really wanted to go. Unfortunately, my schedule wasn't permitting.

[Renee Stubbs]

The US Open is wild. It's loud. It's like honey deuces and dough bell tequila and like, it's just Heineken. And everything's just surrounded by noise. You know, the Arthur Ashe Stadium, which is the biggest stadium in the world, is loud. It's like even for us doing courtside commentary, we've got to wear noise canceling headphones because we can't hear the commentators. It's just. It's just manic and crazy. And after the 19 days that I've worked there, I do need a bit of a break. But also at the same time, it's kind of my favorite Grand Slam to work in television because it's just so much. And I kind of love it.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Sounds like my vibe too.

[Renee Stubbs]

As long as I'm not working, it's way more fun.

[Ashanti Plummer]

We had some big matches this year at the Open. Coco and Naomi Venus playing doubles. What were some of your takeaways from the matches?

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah, I mean, unfortunately for Coco, it's a bit of a struggle right now and sort of, you know, az, I talked to you about this a little bit. You know, when you have a technique floor in your game, whether it be, you know, in basketball, obviously it's like your shooting technique or something with your feet or your crossover or whatever it is, there's always. You're always working on improving your technique on whatever it is. And Coco has arguably one of the greatest backhands we've ever seen in the game, but her forehand is really quite technically, quite flawed and her serve has become a technical issue for her. So that was pretty tough to see. Naomi, on the other hand, played unbelievable. She's come back from having a baby. It's been a bit of a struggle for her over the last couple of years, but she's certainly found her. Her form. Actually, one of the best matches that I called was the Naomi Osaka, Amanda and Asimova. And if you remember, Amanda lost six love. Six love in the finals of Wimbledon. I mean, that's like losing 100 to 4 in a game in the NCAA titles. I mean, that is so bad to lose that easily, right? And the fact that she came back at this tournament and beat that same player in this tournament just shows you the different ways to be able to manage stress and disappointment and come back and beat the same player who you literally couldn't win a game against in the finals of WIM and IGA Sciontek, who was the favorite coming into the US Open, is unbelievable to me. The mental fortitude that she was able to turn around. So that was arguably the match of the tournament for me. It was three hours long. It went to like one o' clock in the morning. And then Amanda, unfortunately, you know, didn't play her best final, but Sabalenka was just too tough in the final and so much more experience than Amanda. But I'm happy for Amanda. She's young, she's been through a lot in her life. She lost her dad when she was 19, leading into the US Open in 2019. She took a mental break from the game for about eight months, and then she was in qualifying here last year and lost in Qualifying and then. And was doing online classes at 22, thinking, Ah, maybe it's just not for me anymore. And now look where she's at. Four in the world, killing it, doing great things. So I'm. I'm super, super happy for her.

[Az Fudd]

I feel like. To hear other athletes and their stories, like, everyone, whether you're an athlete, not an athlete, everyone has adversity, their own path, their own stories, own things. They have to battle. But to hear other athletes come back at that level is like, I got chills when you were talking about it. It's so impressive. I'm definitely gonna have to read up on her later.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So, you guys, I'm hearing about this glasses sticker story. Can somebody tell me what happened with that?

[Az Fudd]

Oh, it. Renee just had a sticker on her glasses, and I took it off for her, but she said that she'd been walking around with it all day and no one told her, which is kind of messed up.

[Renee Stubbs]

Az, not all day. For, like, five days. I got a brand new pair of sunglasses. That, by the way, is my third pair because I keep losing them because, you know, as you get old, you start to have to wear reading glasses. And so I'd have to take my. My sunglasses off and. And I put them down and then I forget them and, like, I left them at Wimbledon, and then I got to the US Opener. But the good thing is I know exactly where to get them. So this is my third pair of them. So I took them out of their case and, you know, took the plastic things off, right? Then I put them on. I'm like, yeah, good to go, right? These are my favorite sunglasses. And then I was wearing them for, like, four days at least. And many people actually were like, love your glasses. Love your glasses. And then all of a sudden, I'm looking at Az and Az just, like, staring at the star. And I was like, what is going? She goes, can I take this sticker off? I was like, what? I'm like, so some. All of my friends, quote, unquote, let me walk around with this. Either that or they thought it was part of the glasses. Thank God for, you know, az, who's at an age where she goes, no, those are not supposed to be on there.

[Az Fudd]

I mean, they're very stylish glasses. So I could see the confusion where, like, maybe it's supposed to be there because they looked good. Like, it didn't look bad with the sticker on. But I got your back, Renee. Don't worry.

[Renee Stubbs]

Thank God. Thank God for you. Yeah.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Appreciate you Girls are real one. But yes, Renee, you are actually very stylish. I have seen some of your looks. How would you describe your personal style?

[Renee Stubbs]

Ooh, my personal style. Well, I do say to my friends and my ESPN execs, you will not see me in a dress and you will definitely not see me in patterns. Okay, So I am a more sort of like, you know, I love, I love rocking a tie. I love rocking a sort of suit pants. Depends on the weather. Obviously. If it's really hot at the US Open, it has been, I don't mind, like, wearing a tank with a great pair of pants. I'll have my dunks or I'll have any kind of a sneaker on or not wear any kind of fancy shoe because I'm running around the US Open. It's, I told you, I'm walking through garbage. And so, I don't know, I'm sort of like lesbian chic. That's my vibe.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yes. Love it, love it.

[Az Fudd]

I do feel like fashion and women's sports right now are going pretty much hand in hand.

[Renee Stubbs]

They are. I mean, look at, like, you know, listen, it's not my vibe. Labubu and the rhinestones and all that sort of stuff, but, you know, look at Naomi Osaka, like, rocking that stuff. I mean, the original of that, of course, is Serena Williams, you know, when she came out with the cape and all this stuff on. Women athletes are arguably some of the most high profile people in the world. And I love that, you know, a young girl who wants to grow up and be an AZ Fart or a Coco Gauff or, you know, a Serena or Venus Williams can look at these people and be like, oh, I can play sports and be cool as well. Like, I'm going to do that.

[Az Fudd]

So what do you think your greatest achievement was as a player?

[Renee Stubbs]

I guess winning my first major title in Australia. You know, you always sort of dream of that moment and you don't say, oh, I'd rather win Wimbledon first or maybe the US Open or the Australian Open. It'd be great. I mean, I never thought that way. I just thought, boy, if I win one major title, I'm going to be the happiest person in the world. And it just made me feel like, you know, it's just like you. AZ is like winning a national title. Does that say, oh, that's, that's it, I'm good now, I don't have to prove anything or if I didn't win one, I'm sure Caitlin Clark would have loved to have won A national title, but didn't make her not be one of the best players. But it kind of helps if you can at least add that to your resume. So, I mean, I'd been a very, very good player for a long time. I'd been number one in the world, all the things. I'd won a multiple tournaments on the WTA Tour, but I hadn't won a Slam. And so, you know, when Lisa Raymond and I achieved that at the Australian Open as the number one seeds and we beat an incredible team to win the tournament in front of my family, which never traveled, they never saw me play live. Very, very full, very infrequently, only when I played in Australia. So to do it in front of like 10,000 people, 15,000 people on Rod Laver arena in front of my family and against a great team, and really it was very, very tough match, that to me is like a memory I'll never forget. And subsequently after that, winning Wimbledon a couple of times and all the things, they all are amazing. But there's nothing that substitutes the first time that you do it because you finally have achieved something you've dreamed about your whole life.

[Az Fudd]

I do have another question actually, about the Olympics. Which Olympics was your favorite?

[Renee Stubbs]

I'm not gonna lie. And az, fingers crossed for you, buddy, in la. But there is nothing like playing for your country, in your country, at your Olympics. And I was so blessed and fortunate that I went to four Olympics and one of them happened to be in Sydney. And I was in my prime at that age. I was in my prime in 2000 and 2004 when I went to Athens as well. But. But playing in Sydney was just. I've never been more nervous in my life playing on a tennis court. I was shaking. And in the first round I was number one doubles player or number two doubles player at the time in the world. And I have never been more nervous playing against a team that I knew there was no way I was losing to. And I could not stop shaking to like a set and four one in the second set because I was so nervous there because I wanted to do so well. But that Olympics was off the charts. The crowds in Australia, you know, hopefully, as I said, az, you get an opportunity in la, if not in Brisbane, like, the crowds are going to be bonkers there. Australia, we just, we're obsessed with sports. There's no, I mean, we will pay for any sporting event. So the fact that I got to walk on the track in Sydney, nothing beats that.

[Az Fudd]

That's amazing. And you kind of mentioned it right there. Like you said, you were so nervous in those games, even when you knew, like, there was no way you're gonna lose. Tennis is such a mental game. How do you. When you got like that, how did you kind of, like, reframe yourself, settle yourself, like, lock back in?

[Renee Stubbs]

Well, I know you got Gino to. To drop some pearlers on you and, you know, get you. Get you in a great mindset. And I'm sure there's. He said some amazing things to you in the. In the. In the past, and he will continue to do that in the future, and you'll have great coaches and people around you. But I have to say, one of the things that I told myself in that very first game of that match, when I was. Was literally shaking, my hands were shaking, I just said to myself, renee, do what you do. And by saying that to myself, what I meant by that was there was, you know, we all have weaknesses, right? And I knew what my weakness was. My opponents know what my weaknesses are. But I was not going to let my weaknesses, if I didn't do them well, affect the things that I knew I did better than anybody else on the call it. So I was a very aggressive player. I was an incredible volier. I had a great serve. I poached more than anyone. Like, I would put myself in the line of fire of the ball more than probably anyone has ever in tennis's history on the double sport. And I was like, that's. I'm gonna show up. That person's gonna show up today. Now, all the things that I know I maybe struggle with when I'm nervous or things aren't going well, they may show up as well, but I'm not gonna let them affect the things that I know I do really, really well.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Well.

[Renee Stubbs]

So if that's a word of advice is do what you do and don't let the bad stuff affect the things that you know you do better than everybody else. And that really helped me in those moments.

[Az Fudd]

I love that. Better write that down. Take some note. So what do you see in future for women's sports?

[Renee Stubbs]

You know, it's. Everyone's watching it now. Everyone's final. Everyone's finally caught up to the fact that women's sport is entertaining. Okay. It's like, you know, before it was like, oh, the women can't do this. Women can't do. I was like, have you watched the women? Like, have you gone? And I. I know I keep bringing this up, but I have floor seats to the Liberty. Let me tell you something, those seats are not cheap next year. So I hope everybody in the WNBA gets their bag because my tickets are two plus X next year. So the players better be getting some of that bag. But like sitting close to the court, I cannot tell you. I never realized how physical basketball is. Like my attention to the detail of what happens out there. And I think AZ, like if you sat courtside for a tennis match, now you're just like, wow. I mean they are, they are hitting the ball so hard and the physicality of the tennis game and the movement and the speed is off the charts. And I would argue that when you sit courtside at a WNBA game, you better, you better throw some respect because they are hurting each other to get the ball. And I think it's the thing that you probably, you know what DT said about Caitlin coming into the league and all the rookies come into league. I mean, Paige credit, she's like killed it this year. And a lot of the rookies did really well this year, but I think they also were sort of really prepared for it. Like, you're going to have to bulk up, you're going to have to get faster because it is brutal. So I think like, if everyone can look at women's sports like that and respect them, then they start going into watching them on TV or live and go, man, I have so much respect for them and do not compare it to men's. Do not say, well, they can't do this. It's like, no, they can't. They're women. But respect what they are doing physically with their bodies because they are pushing themselves to the limit physically of their bodies and they're physically pushing themselves to do whatever they can in their sport. So respect that. And if you can do that, you will really love watching any women's sports.

[Az Fudd]

That's exactly how I felt watching Venus when we watched her doubles match and they said her age and I was like, she's moving on the court and playing as well as she is. She's. She was so strong. Watching her serve was unreal. But just seeing the way she was moving at her age, how is this possible to be able to keep your body in this kind of shit? I thought that blew my mind. I really did.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah. And I mean, you know, Az, as you saw, like what was three years ago, something like that. When Serena played the US Open, she was 40 years of age, like running around with these like 23 year olds and 24 year olds and like moving as well as they are. If you push yourself and you are a professional, and you want the best out of your body. You can do it. And I just. The one word I want people to remember when they talk about women's sports is respect. It just respect them. That's all that. Don't compare them. You don't need to compare them to men. I hate this. Well, she couldn't win a game against Roger Federer. It's like, what's the point of that? Take all of Roger Federer's testosterone away, take all his muscle mass away, speed away, and then we've got a match, right? Or vice versa. Give all these women testosterone. It's like, it's such a stupid argument, and I hate it. Just respect what every single athlete is doing because they are pushing themselves to the limit physically and mentally.

[Az Fudd]

I love that. Don't compare. Just respect.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah.

[Az Fudd]

Okay. Renee, what kind of tips do you have for Ashanti and I as we're starting off this podcast?

[Renee Stubbs]

Be curious. Like, I think that's the best thing that you can ever be when you're podcasting. And, you know, like, when I interview other players, clearly, I know sort of what they're going through and what they need to do to achieve, to be great and all those sort of things. But I want to know their story. Like, I want to know what makes them tick. I want to ask them the questions that I want to ask them. So be curious. Respect. Respect them. Respect what they've done in their career. And. But I think the best thing about it is just be curious about somebody and their lives and their sport and ask a million questions. Just ask the millions of questions that you would want to ask them. Like, talking to you now, Az, I'm like, I could just see me going, all right, okay. So I want to know more about you. You know what I mean? So it's like, that's the beauty of being able to interview people and do this is like, learn things from them and be curious about it. And I think that's the best thing to advise.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Thank you for that. So I want to know about you. You grew up in Australia. Tell us about that. It's very different than here in the States.

[Renee Stubbs]

People always ask me, what's the difference between Australia and America? And I'm like, like, Australians work to get to the weekend, and Americans work to get ahead. And by that, I mean Australians, we like to have a good time. We love to work hard, but we love to have a good time. So our shops close if you go there. Az. I mean, Ashanti, you know this at 5pm Shops are done, they're closed. Everyone's home, people are with their families or people are going out for drinks. You're not working till 9pm except on the Thursday night we have late night shopping. Okay. At the malls and they're open till nine. Okay. So there's, there's like this community feel and it's about enjoying your life.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I love my time in Australia. I love that it's hot. I love the people. And you're absolutely right. That's like one of the things I really enjoyed when I got to. So I lived there in Brisbane for a year because I played professional basketball over there. And when I got there, it was like everyone's smiling, they're greeting each other. And me coming from New York City was definitely like a culture shock. It feels a little bit slower, but not too slow. It's still city, it's still active. It's a lot of fun. You guys sure know how to party. So I really enjoyed my time.

[Renee Stubbs]

Well, that's another thing that we definitely do well. We definitely do that well. We, we can drink, we have a good time. It is hot. Especially in Brisbane. It is real hot. It's kind of like the Florida of Australia. Right? It's the opposite. North is hot, south is cold. But yeah, we're a good time. We're a good time.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I love you all.

[Az Fudd]

Renee, that was amazing. Thank you so much for letting us pick your brain, get to know you a little bit better. We're gonna go to a quick break, but after Renee, are you down to play some games?

[Renee Stubbs]

Absolutely.

[Az Fudd]

Sounds good.

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[Az Fudd]

All right, welcome back. It is time for fun and games. So to start us off we have the what the FUD of the Week. Ashanti what do we have?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay you guys, so what the FUD of the week is something that happened this week that made you go what the fud. So our what the FUD of the week is Renee's star studded box. She had Chelsea Handler, Shonda Rhimes, Naomi Watts girl, tell us all about that.

[Renee Stubbs]

You know, look, here's the deal. Tennis brings people together, okay? And. And as U.S. athletes know, kind of singers and actors and people of, you know, that genre love sports, right? They love to be around sports athletes. So I have just met so many amazing people like Shonda and Chelsea and Juliana Margulies and all these people that are in the photos that I put on my Instagram, because we genuinely have become friends based on the fact that they love tennis. They just love it. And they come and watch and, you know, I'm there and I go sit with them and we talk about tennis. And then I've gotten to be friendly and friends with a lot of these people based on the fact that they love the sport of tennis. And. Yeah, I mean, it's just part of what you do. It's part of what we do, right? We just. We're around a lot of really cool, cool freaking people. And, you know, it's great to be around really cool freaking women who are doing great things in their industry. And. And as I said, be curious, right? And I'm curious about the things that they do. And getting to know them is always so fun. And then when you get to know people, you just realize they're just real people. And so that's sort of like where I get. I mean, look. Look at Az. She's just a real person.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So that's the fans and listeners.

[Renee Stubbs]

I mean, you did make my list on that little photo montage. So just so you know, I am honored.

[Ashanti Plummer]

All right, up next, we have a fun game called Aussie Slang Quiz. Are you guys ready?

[Renee Stubbs]

Yes.

[Ashanti Plummer]

So, for our Aussie Slang Quiz game, I'm going to list out some Aussie slang words, and you guys are going to tell me what you believe it means. Okay? Y' all ready?

[Az Fudd]

Yes. Wait, shouldn't you know all the slang words?

[Renee Stubbs]

Well, you never know.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, that's fair.

[Renee Stubbs]

Remember I told you I've been living here for a long time?

[Ashanti Plummer]

That's true. Ready? Frothy. What do you think frothy means? Az, you can go first.

[Az Fudd]

It's not like the milk on top of your coffee.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I'm crying.

[Az Fudd]

There's another meaning. Frothy. Like, oh, that's super cool. That's just so frothy.

[Renee Stubbs]

Well, it could be. It could be that, but I'm thinking maybe the top of a beer.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yep, it's. It's. Frothy means beer.

[Renee Stubbs]

Oh, yeah, it's okay. Az, you know, you're.

[Az Fudd]

You.

[Renee Stubbs]

What? Are you old enough to drink yet?

[Az Fudd]

I am, but not beer.

[Renee Stubbs]

You're definitely old enough. In Australia, we drink at 18, so you be you.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I knew the bars look young. You know what? Anyways, Maccas. What's macas?

[Az Fudd]

Like marker with an accent.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, my goodness.

[Renee Stubbs]

I'll give you a hint.

[Az Fudd]

A coffee.

[Renee Stubbs]

Two Old beef patty.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, that's a good hit.

[Renee Stubbs]

Special sauce.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, come on.

[Renee Stubbs]

Lettuce.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Come on, do the whole wrap.

[Renee Stubbs]

Big Mac. It's McDonald's.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yes.

[Renee Stubbs]

Means McDonald's.

[Az Fudd]

Okay.

[Renee Stubbs]

Maccas.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, I could see that.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah. Okay, you got it. Just shorten everything. Az, you'll be good.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay, the next one. You ready? Yarn. Yarn.

[Renee Stubbs]

Are you. Are you chachi?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Between me, I was literally like, do not cheat. Easy.

[Az Fudd]

I know. I don't. I don't. I don't know. Yarn.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yarn.

[Renee Stubbs]

What are we doing right now?

[Az Fudd]

Talking. So it's like yapping. Yarn.

[Renee Stubbs]

You got it.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Chat. Yeah. Okay.

[Az Fudd]

Okay.

[Renee Stubbs]

A good. A good yawn. I'm having a good chat.

[Ashanti Plummer]

A good yarn. I like that. All right, ready? Drongo. I might be saying this wrong. Drongo?

[Az Fudd]

Is that how you say it?

[Renee Stubbs]

You're an absolute drongo.

[Az Fudd]

An idiot.

[Renee Stubbs]

Nailed it. You nailed it because of the way I said it here in drongo.

[Ashanti Plummer]

All right, you're gonna give the. You're gonna give the clues. Ready?

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Budgie smuggler. This is crazy. Am I saying this right? Is it budgie?

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah. You nailed it. Budgie smuggler. Yeah. You're never gonna get.

[Ashanti Plummer]

You're never gonna get this girl a budgie smuggler. That's crazy.

[Az Fudd]

I don't. A budgie smuggler.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay.

[Az Fudd]

I don't know.

[Ashanti Plummer]

You wear a budgie smuggler.

[Renee Stubbs]

It's a swimsuit that a man wears.

[Az Fudd]

Like, so, like a Speedo.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yes, yes.

[Az Fudd]

I'm thinking like sm. Tight.

[Renee Stubbs]

Nailed it.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Next. Is it straya or stria? Stria. Stria. Stria.

[Az Fudd]

Oh, that's it. Okay. What are these words? I have no idea.

[Renee Stubbs]

You know how they just tell you shorten it. Australia.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yes. Ding, ding, ding.

[Renee Stubbs]

Did you say Australia? Nailed it.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Ready?

[Az Fudd]

That's what, like.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, sorry.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah. We just say we're from Australia. We're from Australia.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Australia.

[Renee Stubbs]

We don't say Australia.

[Ashanti Plummer]

I'm from Australia.

[Renee Stubbs]

You know?

[Az Fudd]

All right.

[Renee Stubbs]

Are you from Australia? Yeah.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Ripper. Ripper.

[Az Fudd]

Ripper.

[Ashanti Plummer]

That's all I got.

[Renee Stubbs]

Hey, Az, if someone makes a three point shot with like two seconds to go and they're running towards you, you'd say you're a ripper.

[Az Fudd]

So it's like a. You're a dog. Like, you're cold.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yeah.

[Renee Stubbs]

You are awesome. You're awesome. What a little. We usually say it like this. You're a little ripper.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yeah, Little ripper. Really good.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah. So your center or forward, when you run by, you made a great assist to them. They'd be like, you're a little ripper.

[Az Fudd]

Do you say on, like, while you're commentating?

[Renee Stubbs]

Sometimes. Sometimes a couple of little Australianisms come flying out of my mouth and people do write me and be. And they'll be like, what does that mean? Or they'll say, you know, they'll inquire about what it means, you know. Yeah. So all my co. Commentator will be like, what the hell does that mean? And then I'll have to explain it to them.

[Ashanti Plummer]

All right, our last one. Fair dinkum. Am I saying. Am I saying it wrong? Was.

[Renee Stubbs]

That was fine.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Fair dinkum.

[Az Fudd]

Fair dinkum.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Fair income.

[Az Fudd]

Good game.

[Renee Stubbs]

Kind of. Not really. No. It means, like, if. If you went up and. I don't know, it's. It's basically saying, like, oh, really? Fed income. No way. Kind of like that.

[Az Fudd]

Okay.

[Renee Stubbs]

If someone said, oh, I just crossed, like, for the other day, I got. I got stung on the face by a bead still marked right here before I was about to go on air. True story. And someone go, fed income. Yeah, Feed income. Okay, seriously, for real means really? Yeah, yeah, for real. Yeah. Fair income. That is very Australian. Like, you only say that when you're a few lagers or alcoholic drinks in.

[Az Fudd]

What'S about a few frothy.

[Renee Stubbs]

Nailed it.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, so the next game that we have is we're gonna have a little fun with Labubu naming. Kind of like Naomi Osaka did with naming her Labubus after tennis legends. We're gonna do that. But the WNBA edition. Okay, so the first WNBA player, we have. Subird.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Ooh.

[Renee Stubbs]

Saboo. Boo. Buddy.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, I'm here for it. Saboo.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Birdie. All right.

[Az Fudd]

What about Diana Taurasi?

[Ashanti Plummer]

I'm crying. They don't get better.

[Renee Stubbs]

Am I nailing these completely messing?

[Ashanti Plummer]

No, you're killing it.

[Az Fudd]

No.

[Renee Stubbs]

Okay, great.

[Az Fudd]

I like it.

[Renee Stubbs]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Az Fudd]

Lisa Leslie Lee.

[Renee Stubbs]

Lee Leslie. What? I didn't. I can't even remember what I said.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yo, the lily took me out.

[Renee Stubbs]

Stretch, stretch. Period.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Girl.

[Renee Stubbs]

She told me.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, I like that.

[Ashanti Plummer]

All right.

[Az Fudd]

Asia Wilson.

[Renee Stubbs]

Ilson.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Maya Moore.

[Renee Stubbs]

Maya Lou. My Maru. I can't do this one. This one's like, I'm Like, I'm. Like, I'm off the reservation on this one. Maya. Lulu. Boo.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Boo. Maruru. All right, these are her names are.

[Az Fudd]

Way better than anything that we were expecting.

[Ashanti Plummer]

100.

[Renee Stubbs]

Yeah.

[Ashanti Plummer]

100. Cheryl swoops.

[Renee Stubbs]

Oh, oops, Oops, Oops. Shaloops. Shaloops.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Shalloops. That's a good one.

[Renee Stubbs]

Swoops.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Shalloops.

[Renee Stubbs]

Chalulu. Swoopoo.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Shoops. Okay.

[Renee Stubbs]

It's only in the morning too. Haven't even had a drink yet.

[Ashanti Plummer]

All right, how about Az. Az. Fud.

[Renee Stubbs]

Az. Fuddy. I was gonna say lazy Lou, but you're not lazy.

[Sophia from OK Storytime]

Lazy Louis.

[Az Fudd]

Fubu.

[Renee Stubbs]

Fudood. I don't want to call you a fadad. That's terrible. That means I'm calling you lazy. Fud that. Like, just give me your. Give me your little Boo Boo name of yourself. Az.

[Az Fudd]

Of myself?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yeah.

[Renee Stubbs]

Come on. I know you've got something written down there. Give me your best.

[Az Fudd]

Well, mine are like kind of the opposite direction of yours, you know.

[Renee Stubbs]

I'm good. Well, give me some. Give me some.

[Az Fudd]

Mine are more along the line of like, like, ay. Fudalicious.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, okay, I get it.

[Renee Stubbs]

I get it, I get it. I get where you want to go with yours.

[Az Fudd]

Okay, what about Ashanti Plumber?

[Ashanti Plummer]

Oh, my goodness. Not the laugh. Aanti Plumbulu? Plum Blue?

[Renee Stubbs]

Ashanti.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Yep, that's the one. What about you? Renee?

[Az Fudd]

Renee Stubbs.

[Renee Stubbs]

Renee Bay.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Okay.

[Renee Stubbs]

Stub.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Boo Boo.

[Renee Stubbs]

Renee Stubb.

[Ashanti Plummer]

Boo.

[Renee Stubbs]

That's a good one. That's not bad. Okay, I'll take that.

[Az Fudd]

Renee, thank you so much for joining us today. This was incredible. Getting to know you a little bit more. Getting to know Ray Ray Stubby, Lulu a little bit more.

[Renee Stubbs]

You're welcome. I had a blast, you guys. Az, I can't wait to see you this season. I'm going to be watching big time. I'm looking forward to everything. So thanks for having me today.

[Az Fudd]

You definitely need to make it to again.

[Renee Stubbs]

Thanks, Nishant.

[Ashanti Plummer]

You're so welcome, listeners.

[Az Fudd]

Thank you guys so much for tuning in again. And don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to FUD around and find out wherever you get your podcasts and we'll see you next week. Fud around and Find out is a production of I Heart Women's sports and Unanimous Media. Executive producers are Jesse Katz, Eric Payton, Sharla Sumter, Brigitte and Stephen Curry. Co executive producer is Kalena Maria Kutney. Producers are Mike Coscarelli and co producers are Kurt Redmond, Maya Howard, and Jaclyn Schoeninger. This podcast is edited by Mike Coscarelli and hosted by me, Az Fudd and Ashanti Plummer.

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[Ashanti Plummer]

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