A (3:57)

Now correct me where I'm wrong. Based on what I'm hearing, I would describe it as something like some people are very sensitive to electric exposures in our lives. Which is, which are everywhere really.

C (4:10)

Yes, absolutely. Everybody has sensitivities to electrical sources. Some people have become extremely aware of it because of Lyme mold, Epstein Barr virus and a number of other co infections that are blown just explode around the influences of electromagnetic fields. So why are some people affected and why are some people not? So this is the great argument. I am really thankful when there are relationships where one person is not affected and the other one is because we need that one person to be functional, to carry the weight while this other person works through their issues. So I'm not against that. But physiologically everybody does feel it to some extent. It's just the body is always trying to find what's normal. And men especially are proud of taking pain and not complaining. And women are opposite. So thank goodness for them. They have the sensitivity to protect their children and can raise awareness about the real problems and we can then flush them out.

A (5:15)

Is it fair to say that some people are more affected than others because they have some other CO factor? They may be sick with something already or an immune issue. So they may be more sickened by this than other people.

C (5:29)

That's absolutely 100% true. There are infections, there are diseases inside of us that are being stimulated which will increase a disease, Ms. parkinson's. All this stuff is absolutely known, 100% to be reduced when you take away the dirty electricity or lower the electric fields, magnetic fields. So the other component of this is, well, could everyone benefit with a lower wireless exposure? Yes, of course. Your chronic fatigue, your eye burn, your mood swings, all this blood sugar, it's all well documented. It's just what's the cost benefit?

A (6:03)

Can you describe what your business is, what you do?

C (6:06)

Yes, the first thing I do is I come in and I do an assessment of what is your exposure. I'll get a call from someone who says, you know, I feel bad and you know, my husband says I'm not getting rid of my cell phone, so what else are you going to do? And we do a bed map and it basically is a color spectrum picture of the electric fields and magnetic fields around where they're sleeping. I focus on the sleeping area first because you're sleeping, you're repairing, you're doing great. We fix wiring, we shield the electric fields and there's a lot of code violations that get passed the inspectors and the electricians and nobody knows about them, but they're still creating magnetic fields. I correct those problems.

A (6:47)

What did you do in this house as it was being built?

C (6:50)

I worked with the installing electrician to make sure that the way that the wires were shielded would be correct. There's a lot of things that you can mess it up on and he was a very good electrician. But basically installing MC cable or shielded cable is the first step and that's what they did.

A (7:07)

There is a change that's happened here since I think around August where they've allowed for the first time officially allowed more use of some WI fi, saying that the school really needed it, for example. What do you have to say about that? Is that a concern?

C (7:23)

It's a huge concern both for the research which is now blinded, which is extremely unfortunate. It's one of the most valuable resources we have for being a radio telescope to be eyes and ears for what's going on out in space for a lot of different really important research. That's really heartbreaking that we're going to be blind to that now. The second part of is it's really a death knell to all of us who have invested in this area to have it protected. So they are not objecting to WI fi. So that means that you can just add as much as you want and it doesn't matter. So we're very concerned that infrastructure will be built using the 2.4 GHz and then that'll be broadcasted onto our properties. So we're actually have engaged Children's Health Defense and the Mercola Group to actually have a legal and legislative upgrade to 37A, which is a West Virginia state law that protects this environment.

A (8:26)

So break that down for me. Are you actively lobbying to try to stop the WI Fi change that's already happened or to stop future changes? What are you trying to have happen?

C (8:37)

We want to hold it right here. I am a red blooded American. I believe in privacy. You do what you want in your home and that's fine. Just don't let it come onto my property. So we have a really solid claim on West Virginia law for property rights on our property can't exist. And with the very stringent radio frequency levels that are allowed by the state law, I mean nothing good exists here. Now it's all about enforcement. So if we can get the 37A upgraded to protect humans and our property, we're great. So we keep the same numbers so the their projects can continue as they want, but we just increase it to where we're not going to allow infrastructure to come in and broadcast it on our own properties.

A (9:23)

By that do you mean you're concerned that developers are going to come in and things are going to be built that need or want to use that and there will be more of it?

C (9:30)

Yes. It would be very easy for city wide WI fi with emitters on every pole to then go up and be ubiquitous all over the county. I know there's requirements for them to get approval on that, but right now nothing would stop it.

A (9:52)

What is some of the advice if people are looking at this and saying I'm not ready to throw out my cell phone, but are there any simple things I can do to A identify if I'm having a problem and B just mitigate this exposure?

C (10:06)

Absolutely.

A (10:07)

Tell me.

C (10:08)

Nobody needs a cell phone in their bedroom at night. There are many other ways that you can get an alarm or some sort of notice if there's an emergency without a radiation producing device next to your head. So the first thing is turn off your WI fi or get an Eco JRS eco router at night that turns off when you're not needing it. Move all of the wireless devices out of your sleeping area so where you can hear them if they ring. And then turn the power off with your breaker around the bed. Lower the electric fields and you'll get about like 90, 95% improvement in your electromagnetic and your sleep quality.

A (10:45)

Wow, that's big. Did I leave anything out that you wanted to cover?

C (10:50)

Safe Home is a an organization that I'm the board president of and we help people move to Green Bank. Electrically sensitive people are coming here two or three times a month, new people, and they're desperate. There's no place that they can stay. We are working on basically where can I stay? For $100 membership we have people that are hired and paid to help these people find places where they can stay temporarily and until they can either build a home, buy property or whatever it would take. The other part is understanding what electrically Sensitivity is. It's not a weakness, it's a strength. And I want to encourage everyone to learn about the little tiny steps that we had talked about to help their children. Especially. They don't have a voice and they're crying at night or complaining during the day. Their mood swings are directly blood sugar related to these exposures. The children, their eggs, their future generations are exponentially more affected than we are as adults. Adults cannot be used as a marker of health for children. And taking little tiny steps to keep your kids away from the WI fi, away from electronic devices that are entraining them with it with the blue light, as well as putting out signals for Bluetooth, will exponentially increase their fertility as well as their ability just to be calm and have mental faculties in school, their performance and relationships, especially to a

A (12:31)

lot of people, this is the proverbial middle of nowhere. There's not much population in the county. Do you know how many electrically sensitive people live here?

C (12:38)

Approximately I have a phone list of 63 people that I know of. There are other people that are living on the outskirts that have come to West Virginia to get protection but aren't in our community. I would estimate there's probably closer to 100 people.

A (12:58)

Okay, thank you so much. Did I not ask that? I'm sorry, I forgot to ask. Or did you? Did we already address it? You can let me know. A lot of people may say they don't think this is real. They use a lot of electronic devices. They don't notice that they suffer anything. Maybe they don't believe this exists. What do you say to that?

C (13:22)

That's totally fine. Keep using your devices. Have at it. Good times. But if your wife, your child is having a health problem, and they call me and they want to find a way that we can live together, would you be considering maybe changing your behavior a little bit for their benefit? A lot of my clients are in this situation, and it's really heartbreaking when the relationships have been deteriorating for so long because of this rift that it becomes a power struggle. And a lot of my clients end up losing their children, sleeping in their cars because this cannot be rectified. So I want to catch it before it gets to this break point of what are the easy things that we can do so we can coexist and then go do whatever you want in your own world. But at least when we come together, we can have a family.

B (14:22)

Sunday, April 12, on my TV program Full Measure, you will meet several people who suffer from being electrically sensitive. In addition to Andrew McAfee, and you'll find out what brought them to Green Bank, West Virginia, what they think about the changes, and as an added area of interest, I interview the man who's leading the operation of the telescope in Green Bank, West Virginia. That's interesting in of itself, so I'll have that in my cover story Sunday on Full Measure. To find out where to watch, go to cheryl Atkison.com click the full Measure tab for a list of stations and times near you. But don't worry if you can't find a TV station or miss it on television, you can always watch at Fullmeasure News. We post the show around 11am Eastern Time on Sundays at Fullmeasure News. And if you miss it on Sunday, April 12, don't worry about that because you can catch a replay anytime at Fullmeasure News. I hope you enjoyed the podcast today and that you will consider subscribing to it, sharing it with your friends, and leaving us a great review. And check out my other podcast, the Cheryl Akison Podcast, to help support independent reporting causes. You can go to cherylakkeson.com and click the Store tab. I know you're going to see some products there that you like, and the money earned goes to a number of different independent reporting causes, such as the Brechner center for Freedom of Information and the ION Awards, which I created for professionals and also at colleges to reward truly independent thinking, accurate investigative journalism. Do your own research, make up your own mind, think for yourself.