Podcast Summary: Full Measure After Hours

Episode: Weather Control

Host: Sharyl Attkisson
Date: January 15, 2026

Overview

In this episode of Full Measure After Hours, Sharyl Attkisson investigates the little-examined world of weather control and geoengineering, arguing it’s “very real, well-documented, and ongoing.” She explores how efforts to manage, manipulate, and even commercialize the weather have surged, often with little regulation or public transparency. Attkisson interviews three advocates and experts following the issue: Dr. Joseph Ladapo (Florida Surgeon General), Mary Holland (Children's Health Defense), and Leah Wilson (Stand for Health Freedom), delving into state-level responses, public accountability, and the mysterious normalization of weather manipulation.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The State of Weather Control: An Unregulated Frontier

• Attkisson opens by describing the lack of national oversight for weather modification:
  • “There’s virtually no regulation…no tracking…it’s basically an honor system.” (01:10)
  • Companies or even “hostile foreign actors” could theoretically modify local weather without consent or notification.
• “Cloud robbing” — where a hydro plant or another entity seeds clouds and directs rain for profit — is possible and largely unmonitored.
• Even sun-dimming experiments have taken place, sometimes leading to government bans (e.g., Mexico).

Notable quote:

“It’s pretty unreal that a hydro plant that works for profit…can in essence rob rain from nearby.” (02:05, Sharyl Attkisson)

2. Florida’s Legislative Response (w/ Dr. Joseph Ladapo)

Legislative Action (04:05 – 07:04)

• Florida passed a law banning geoengineering and requiring airports to report such activity.
• The law was catalyzed by public and legislative concern—“we don’t want it here,” rather than evidence any has occurred.
• Dr. Ladapo’s team is beginning a science-based project to test Florida’s air, water, and soil for geoengineering compounds.

Notable moments & quotes:

“People saying it was a conspiracy theory. And then…public disclosure of federal documents [about] both funding of private geoengineering and…federal activities.” (05:00, Dr. Ladapo)

“We want to do it in a thoughtful way that will be useful…to interpret the results and…know which direction to go based on the results.” (06:23, Dr. Ladapo)

3. A Historical and Legal Perspective (w/ Mary Holland, Children’s Health Defense)

Geoengineering’s Documentation & Public Awareness (07:12 – 12:29)

• Cites President Lyndon Johnson's 1960s quote: "He who controls the weather controls the world."
• U.S. military projects like Operation Popeye in Vietnam proved these techniques were used.
  • “There’s zero factual dispute about that.” (07:45, Mary Holland)
• Federal agencies (HAARP, NOAA) are involved in climate engineering.
• There is public evidence of private cloud seeding and snowmaking; severe weather might be related, but causation remains uncertain.
• State bans (Tennessee, Florida) may not be fully effective—“geoengineering occurs at a higher level than the state may have jurisdiction.”
• Children’s Health Defense runs a “geoengineering report” each Sunday, focusing on public awareness and health implications.

Notable moments & quotes:

“If our taxpayer money is actually contributing to these floods and to these outrageous fires… we’ve got to stop that.” (08:23, Mary Holland)

“It’s not a secret—the Congressional Research Service has done several reports… SRM, solar radio management, is well understood by Congress as a reality…” (11:00, Mary Holland)

4. Policy Action & Public Confusion (w/ Leah Wilson, Stand for Health Freedom)

Challenges in Advocacy and Language (12:29 – 16:33)

• Lawmakers are often stumped by basic questions: “Who’s doing it? What are they exactly doing? How do we know it’s harmful?”—making state action difficult.
• States pass bans mostly as principle-driven statements: “We don’t think anyone else should play God except God, so let’s put a stop to this.” (17:36, Leah Wilson)
• The language around the issue is still debated: “Do we call it weather modification? Contrails? Geoengineering? Shielding from the sun?” (13:32, Leah Wilson)
• Evidence for sun-dimming experiments exists in academic papers (e.g., Harvard), but comprehensive proof remains sparse.
• Tracking is informal; activists and farmers report visible changes in skies and crops, conducting local soil and air tests.

Memorable exchange:

Sharyl Attkisson: “Is that in the record that there are dimming of the sun efforts being coordinated somewhere, or is that just theory?” (14:49)

Leah Wilson: “We’ve seen papers out of Harvard… about efforts to dim the sun. That’s a big one… to protect us from global warming…” (15:01)

The “Normalization” of Weather Modification

• Leah Wilson warns that the shift in media conversation may aim to “normalize” weather engineering as a well-intentioned response to climate change.
• Farmers report unprecedented phenomena with crops—suspecting weather modification but struggling to get clear answers.

Notable Quotes

• Sharyl Attkisson (02:05):
  “It’s pretty unreal that a hydro plant that works for profit and wants more water…can in essence rob rain from nearby.”
• Dr. Joseph Ladapo (05:00):
  “People saying it was a conspiracy theory. And then…disclosure of federal documents about…federal activities that comprise geoengineering.”
• Mary Holland (07:45):
  “Operation Popeye—there’s zero factual dispute about that.”
• Leah Wilson (17:36):
  “We don’t think anyone else should play God except God, so let’s put a stop to this.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00 – 04:05: Sharyl Attkisson’s overview; lack of regulation; cloud robbing; sun dimming.
• 04:05 – 07:04: Dr. Joseph Ladapo on Florida’s legislation and scientific efforts.
• 07:12 – 12:29: Mary Holland on history, state challenges, Children's Health Defense’s work.
• 12:35 – 18:41: Leah Wilson on advocacy, language confusion, normalization of geoengineering, and real-world impacts.

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The tone is sober, investigative, and at times incredulous—a mix of skepticism regarding official inaction and concern about transparency and unintended consequences. All guests express a mixture of wariness and urgency, calling for more research, regulation, and public debate on weather control’s growing scope and tangible effects.

Summary prepared for those seeking an accessible, comprehensive understanding of the episode and the complex issue of weather control as presented by Sharyl Attkisson and her expert guests.