NELK Boys Internal | Ep. 183

Summary

FULL SEND PODCAST — NELK Boys Internal | Ep. 183

Recorded: January 29, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the NELK Boys' monumental 100-mile ultra marathon challenge. The group, along with coach Matt Johnson, discusses the physical and mental journey, preparation, logistics, setbacks, key moments from the live stream event, the personal transformations experienced, and lessons learned. The episode highlights themes of discipline, accountability, pushing past limits, camaraderie, and how this achievement might set new standards for creators and inspire their audience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The 100-Mile Challenge: Motivation & Preparation

• Monumental Undertaking:
  • Kyle and the crew wanted a new, challenging goal that would keep them “locked the fuck in” ([15:23]) and away from distractions.
  • The idea was born after a call with Cole, son of Gary Brecka, who was training for a similar feat.
• Why Running?
  • Unlike hitting the gym, running an ultramarathon delivers unavoidable pain and darkness—a pure test of mental and physical endurance ([14:43]-[15:53]).
  • “There's no real consequence [with only lifting]. So I was looking for something last year that was going to keep me locked the fuck in.”—A ([15:43])
• Professional Guidance:
  • Coach Matt Johnson (ultrarunner, military background) crafted the plan, highlighting individualized structuring based on everyone's schedules and progress ([18:15]).

2. The Training Process & Accountability

• Dedication:
  • Training involved 71 days of progressively increasing mileage, peaking at weeks with 80-100 miles ([23:30]).
  • Post-run recovery was essential: hours spent on stretching, massage, sauna, cold plunge, and prioritizing sleep.
• Building Trust:
  • Coach Matt was initially skeptical about the group’s commitment—especially about syncing their runs with watches for accountability ([20:15]).
  • Kyle “mooching” the program to the friends turned out to boost group accountability, though it ruffled coach's feathers a bit ([21:24]).
• Addiction to Self-Improvement:
  • “You just get addicted to it. It becomes literally a drug. Like working out and getting your heart rate up, getting your body moving, like, it just makes you feel good.”—A ([12:20])
  • Ultra-running attracts ex-addicts and those seeking to channel pain to purpose ([13:02]).

3. Experiencing the Run: Highs, Lows & Logistics

• Early Struggles:
  • Contrary to expectations, pain hit earlier than planned, especially after music and support vans had to leave due to a narrow road ([29:43]).
• Group Dynamics:
  • Having a team was a mental boost—on tough stretches, those feeling strong pulled up the weaker ones ([28:35]).
• Fuel & Aid:
  • Runners consumed up to 10,000+ calories throughout in the form of energy gels, candy, soda, Rice Krispies, and donut holes ([25:47],[26:56]).
  • “I would bring out a thousand milliliters of water ... and Kyle would take double this ... wham, and just suck the whole thing down.” —Coach Matt ([27:23])
  • Caffeine and ibuprofen were strategically used in the back half to push through pain ([30:14]-[31:08]).

4. Mindset, Growth & Relatability

• Mental Benefits:
  • Running and physical transformation offered escape and clarity, with Matt sharing a deeply personal story about trauma and using running for self-healing ([07:46]-[10:09]).
  • Kyle: “My biggest fear in life is losing self control ... whenever I feel like I'm losing self control, it scares the living out of me, bro.” ([10:20])
• Accountability’s Power:
  • Publicly committing (e.g. posting progress on Instagram) created accountability that fueled consistency and resilience ([11:48]).
• Conquering Doubt:
  • “That's why people tuned in, because they're like, are they actually gonna finish this?” –A ([48:16])
  • The importance of setting deadlines and creating pressure to follow through ([49:36]).

5. Aftermath & Reflections

• Physical Toll:
  • Recovery involved lingering pain, shivering, muscle cramps, and deep fatigue ([41:36]-[42:19]).
• Emotional Impact:
  • Overwhelmed by supportive messages; Drake donated $150,000 during the live run, which provided a huge morale boost ([53:44]-[54:05]).
• Setting the Bar:
  • The group discusses how rare this accomplishment is among creators, with only a tiny fraction of the population finishing ultramarathons ([37:24]).
  • “People are calling this the biggest athletic achievement by a YouTuber of all time.”—Coach Matt ([37:45])
• What's Next?
  • Still passionate about fitness, but will return to variety content. Discussion of even bigger challenges for viral potential ([46:43]-[49:05]).
  • “You always got to make it bigger. So if we do do another challenge like this, it's going to be ... with a special guest ... I don't know what it will be, but I'm definitely 200 miles. But that's not enough. That's not enough.” —A ([47:12])

6. Inspiring Others & Internet Impact

• Setting the Trend:
  • The achievement is likely to trigger more creators to attempt similar life-changing challenges ([44:39]).
  • “I think other people might now have an itch to go out and do some like this and people will go back and be like, this is when Kyle did that 100 mile run and it could be the trend.” —C ([44:39])
• Relatability & Vulnerability:
  • Discussion with Steiny about setting real goals, skepticism about his discipline, and how accountability/doubt can drive transformation ([50:18]-[50:40], [52:07]-[52:14]).
  • Broader conversation about authenticity in 2026 content—fans want real, personal journeys, not just characters ([56:49]-[57:28]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mental Endurance:
  • “Running was the place that I could go to find peace. In those times of mental chaos ... I was able to go there and escape the life that I hated.”
    —Coach Matt ([09:14])
• On Accountability:
  • “When you say that you're gonna be somebody and then you become that person, what feeling is better?”
    —B ([11:56])
• On Group Success:
  • “How do you find six that want to go run a hundred? You don't. Like... I can't even figure out what food we want to get, let alone like, go do this, like, massive fitness”
    —B ([36:51])
• Conquering Doubt:
  • “When you put in the work and you win and you shut people the fuck up. Yeah, that's one of my favorite feelings.”
    —A ([45:35])
• On Living Authentically:
  • “Why are you living your life for anyone else? ... You should be living your life right now, like, you're gonna die one day. Are you gonna be on your deathbed thinking about, 'Oh, I tried to make these people on the Internet happy'?”
    —A ([57:29])
• On Recovery:
  • “After the race when I came here, I was dead ... my legs were just like ... seizing up and I was shivering. I had to put on my winter jacket and a beanie.”
    —A ([41:39])
• On Drake’s Support:
  • “Drake came in and obviously that fucking energized us too. And it's like, okay, I'm going to finish this.”
    —A ([53:55])

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Important Timestamps

• 100 mile challenge introduction, pressure among friends: [01:37]-[04:49]
• Training logistics, group mentality: [17:08]-[20:02]
• Coach Matt's personal story, role of running in mental health: [07:46]-[10:09]
• Fueling and group strategies: [24:22]-[27:23]
• First real pain and solitary running stretches: [29:39]-[31:08]
• Finishing the run, emotional reaction: [35:03]-[36:13]
• Recovery discussion: [41:36]-[42:19]
• On negative comments and proving doubters wrong: [45:25]-[45:35]
• Drake donates $150k during the run: [53:44]-[54:05]
• Setting future challenges and the importance of public accountability: [46:43]-[51:02]
• Kyle on living life for himself and authenticity: [56:49]-[57:29]

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Additional Highlights

• Live streaming as the future: A consensus that the rawness of livestreamed challenges is often more impactful than edited YouTube content ([59:36]-[60:28]).
• Documentary in progress: A raw, behind-the-scenes doc on the 100-mile journey will drop soon on the Nelk main channel ([60:35]).
• Humor and camaraderie: The boys share funny, gross-out moments from the run—like nature breaks and sharing snacks ([62:01]-[62:21]).

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Final Thoughts

The episode captures the grit required to undertake an ultra marathon and frames it as a metaphor for personal growth, discipline, and authentic content creation. The camaraderie, group accountability, and sharing of both physical suffering and triumphs inject unique energy and relatability. This feat sets a new cultural milestone for creator communities—one built not only on spectacle, but on real, disciplined self-improvement.

“Let’s just continue grinding. Being the best versions of ourselves.”
—A ([62:36])

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[C]

I just want to understand, like, this was a monumental moment in Kyle's life. You guys have had a bonded friendship and you don't show up and then the stream does numbers and now all of a sudden you're spam texting him and talking and now you show up at a pod and here for UFC weekend. I, I, I was just, I don't.

[A]

Think I've gotten a voice memo in like two years.

[D]

He should have seen the viewing party that we had in my house in LA. There was probably 50 people.

[C]

I, I don't believe it. I, you're literally smirking right now. I'm seeing through the bullshit. If you actually like, cared. You would have been there in person, in a vehicle.

[D]

Are you being serious right now?

[C]

I'm being dead ass.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Because I know the relationship that you guys have, and, like, if I had a good friend, I'd want him. I'd want him there supporting me on a monumental moment in my life.

[D]

No, I appreciate that. I respect.

[B]

I just.

[C]

I'm just curious where, like, why you were there.

[D]

No, I get it. Yeah, you did. You did the 100 miles too, right? So you're probably feeling pretty confident, like, you're the man, too.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah, I actually do.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

I can actually do anything.

[D]

No, that's great. Yeah.

[C]

Like, very confident.

[D]

There was. Initially, my role was going to be to show up with Kyle and run the first mile and then, like, be super into it and, like, act like I was gonna do the whole thing. But then I was just kind of over that, like, look of. You look like a loser. It's, like, not funny anymore because what he's doing is actually pretty cool. So we talked about doing that, and then the other route was, all right, well, then you're gonna be on the bus with all the girls partying. And to be honest, I've just been sober for, like, three or four weeks now, and I didn't want to go back into three or four straight. Yeah.

[A]

Trying to. Trying.

[B]

What is. Yeah, what is?

[D]

No, like, I haven't. I haven't had more than, like, one drink or two drinks. Two drinks max. In three or four weeks.

[C]

I respect that.

[D]

And I told him that. And you were cool with. I. I told you. I said, hey, bro, I want to be there to support you if you're cool with it. I don't want to drink or party, and I don't want to, like, be the douche that does the one mile.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And be the joke, because I'm actually trying to be healthier, too. So before I sit down here and you come at me, why don't you learn the whole story before you press me immediately? And I didn't just send him the dude. I was in tears when he crossed that finish line. I was so stoked for my boy, I didn't even know there were clips. I was off my phone that day, but I heard he did the 100 miles.

[A]

No. You didn't see any clips?

[D]

I didn't. Honestly, the only clip I saw was a clip of you guys almost getting hit by the.

[B]

The.

[D]

The Whatever Wheeler.

[B]

Well, that was the one that went for, like, 10 million.

[D]

But I'm gonna. As a viewer, I watched the first probably 30 minutes, like, whatever. And I was like, okay. Like, you know, they're at four miles. What? Or two miles, whatever it is. And it doesn't. Didn't really hit until I saw that 80 miles and night time. And then you're like, holy. This is insane. So I think as a spectator, it didn't really hit you how big it was until it hit nighttime and you saw like over 50 miles. And then you're like, holy. And I told. I had people calling me like, dude, this is crazy. Like, this is a lot of respect. I saw Logan Paul tweet about it, so that's all it was. Wasn't because of the clips. I was just like, damn, that's pretty impressive. And I saw him lock in. Part of the reason, like, I started going out less too, is because I saw how it affected his mental health. And then I was like, yo, I got to get better too.

[C]

I respect it.

[A]

I think, yeah, we're going to do a little 100 mile recap. We got coach Matt Johnson here, who we could not have done the 100 miles without you, bro. You fucking. You came in and every aspect from training, the mental side of it to the content side, the streaming logistics, like, you were just. We couldn't have asked for a better person to be. To help us with this 100 miles. And then we got Brad, me and you've kind of bonded over our fitness journey and become good friends. And dude, honestly, we just wanted to recap the stream because I think it just blew away our expectations of it.

[D]

Yeah. So here's what I. Because I don't know this. You run professionally or something?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So how impressive is it for someone to do a hundred miles in general? Yeah.

[B]

Not very impressive.

[D]

It's not.

[B]

No. I don't think so.

[A]

In the ultra marathon running world.

[D]

So in like for that.

[A]

But for a guy, that's why it's good. Because it's the outside.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

You've been running for how long now?

[B]

It's about. It's about the time. It's about. Okay, all right. Are you're saying like, like is what they did impressive?

[D]

So he's been training for six months.

[B]

What they did Impressive? Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like it's. Someone will usually train six months to a year to do 100 miles and they did it in 71 days.

[D]

So that's pretty rare.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And is there any. Is there any risk injury wise with that?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean that was probably the biggest. That was like the biggest risk of everything was stress Fractures and ligament tears and tendon tears and muscle tears. You had a stress injury.

[C]

I thought I did.

[B]

Oh, no, you did. You did, though, because you. You. We took a couple days off. Yeah. You were feeling it? I mean. Yeah, I mean, they were.

[D]

Sorry. Wait, are you wearing a marlin cap and a Cuban link and you could grill me just now? I'm sorry.

[C]

Go ahead. Yeah, no, I am. Go ahead.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Cuban link's not even real. I just like it.

[B]

It looks cool.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

It does. I'm with you all.

[D]

Not one person had any injury?

[B]

No.

[A]

Not in the training, right?

[B]

No.

[D]

Fuck, bro. Can you imagine? You tore something be bad.

[B]

No one. No one even had had an injury coming out of it. And what did I say? Literally when we were going in, remember, I was like, yo, like, one of you will come out of this and not fucking run for like six months.

[A]

Before we get into it, tell us about your background, Matt, and, like, how you got into running. And Matt's run across Texas twice. How many miles is that again, total miles?

[B]

1700 and 36 days.

[A]

How much is one across Texas? Nine.

[B]

Yeah. 900 one way and then 841 the other way.

[A]

So 900 miles in how many days?

[B]

19 and then 841 miles and 17.

[A]

And then you're running an average of what, a day?

[B]

Year one, 50. Year two, 47.

[A]

So 47 to 50 miles a day for 19 days straight?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's fucking insane.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah. How did you. I want to get your story too. And so how did you kind of start off with getting into running?

[B]

You know, it's kind of a sad story, to be honest. My. My little brother had two friends that were murdered and 17 years old and. Or 16 and 18 years old. And in that process, two best friends were murdered. He dropped out of high school, and I was in the military at the time, and I was like, I need to find a way to like, to help him. Like, self help. And I literally just got on Google and I googled self help books and found Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins. And in reading that, I was like, hey, like, yo, like, let's read this book together. And in reading that book, I just kind of, you know, I learned that, like, not, you know, people like, are like, oh, like, David Goggins is like, fucking, like, stay hard and like, you know, run through injury. Like, for me, it was like I. In the first chapter, like, this guy, this Navy Seal, this guy was in the military who has so many similarities to me, you know, he Went through childhood abuse. I went through childhood abuse. Like he didn't have a dad around, I didn't have a dad around. And I'm like, I'm like, why am I feeling so sorry for myself in my life when this guy has now wrote a book and is a multi millionaire? And so what I would do is I just start listening to that book and I start running and, and that led me, you know, that's the long story short of how I kind of led here today. I was trying to help my brother and I changed my entire life in the process.

[D]

So running just did everything for you mentally like you considered a distraction?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it was definitely like, like running was the place that I could go to find peace. Like in those times of mental chaos. Like it was, you know, I was able to go there and find clarity and in the beginning it was like I was able to go there and escape the life that I hated. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, like I was able, like, like you, you were talking about how like you're able to just think about everything. I was able to just run and just escape this life of like I hated the military, I hated who I was. I, you know, hated the I've done in the past. I hated the way that I was raised. I felt sorry for myself because I went through childhood abuse, like watch my mom try to kill herself. I watched my mom's ex husband beat the out of her, lock us in bedrooms. Like I was able to go and run and like I was able to like control my pain and I'd never been in control before. It just, it just allowed like, it just gave me so much. It gave me everything I needed to, to escape that.

[D]

You are that's obviously pretty traumatizing experience you went through. So I'm sorry about that. But you kind of what, started running because of the mental benefits as well, right?

[A]

I mean I did my first transformation with the gym because like pretty much just, I mean we have everything at our fingertips too, right. And I kind of said it in our documentary that we're filming. But my biggest fear in life is losing self control because I've always been the guy in control. I've always been the leader. You know, people always kind of look to me for the next step. So I think whenever I feel like I'm losing self control, it scares the living out of me, bro. Like I get anxiety and like I'm at that point in my life where like I really can do anything at any time. I can hop on a Plane and go somewhere I get invited to. That's, like, sometimes, like, even. Well, most of the time is even beneficial. Like, partying for us, it can be very beneficial. Right. So it's just a slippery slope. And I think. Yeah. When I originally did my first fitness journey, it was because we kind of just went rockstar lifestyle all summer.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I just hit a wall pretty much. And I was like, bro, this is not gonna end well if I keep on this journey. And I was always into the gym, but I could never just stick to it. You know what I mean? So when I hit that wall, I kind of just said, yo, I'm gonna do my transformation. Posted it on my Instagram story and said, like, I'm gonna do this in 120 days. Because that accountability is everything. Right?

[B]

So there's something in, like, having accountability.

[A]

Accountability is, like, everything.

[B]

Drugs and drinking is cool and all, but, like, when you. When you are accountable for what you say, there is a natural human high in that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That, like, you can't get anywhere else. Like, yeah, like, cool. Like the party lifestyle, like, yeah, it's great. But, like, when you say that you're gonna be somebody and then you become that person, what. What feeling is better?

[A]

It feels way better. Yeah. So that. That's when I originally got the. The hook for it, and that changed my life. And then after that, you just. I mean, we call it like the dial virus.

[C]

Honestly, it's like you get fully.

[A]

You just get, like, you get addicted to. It becomes literally a drug. Like working out and getting your heart rate up, getting your body moving, like, it just makes you feel good. And I'm just addicted to that, too. If I don't work out now for, like, you know, three days, I just feel like a complete slob. Like, my mental feels off. I have to either go for a run or lift weights to, like, get my heart rate up and get that blood pumping. And it just. I'm addicted to it. Like, I have no choice, which is kind of like a blessing.

[C]

I was just saying that I feel like in the ultra running world, too. I think a lot of these guys are ex addicts as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And, like, they go to running and they literally become addicted to it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, one of the. The. Probably the best marathon runner in Austin right now. He just. He qualified for the Olympics last year. He went to the Olympic trials, and he was a meth addict for, like, 15 years. And then one day just woke up and was like, Mitch Hammonds is his name. One day just Woke up and was like, I don't want to do this no more. And now he turns to running because, you know, it's kind of like pain to purpose, right? Like, and, and it doesn't have to be, like, it doesn't have to be hard drugs. Like it can be, you know, if you just don't like something about yourself. You know, if you don't like an action that you are doing, take a fitness action and try to replace that. If you're like, oh, I want to get off blow. Like every time you want to do blow, go run five miles. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like dog. Like all you have to do is replace.

[A]

When there's a chicken room at 4:00am she's probably not asking to run five miles.

[B]

I mean, dude, do some type of cardio.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Why? Why is running it? It's so, it's like a cult.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like all these guys get. So what is the obsession there?

[A]

It's so easy. But you know the easiest way to like get that high. Yeah, but, but you just step outside your house and you can just, just go right away.

[B]

Like running being culty. Like you can look at, like you can look at. I mean, you guys are like a cult too. You just got to penetrate it.

[D]

No, Yeah, I guess, you know, I.

[B]

Mean, I mean, you know what I mean? Like, like if you're like, like an outsider looking in, like everyone, it's just like that kind of like that clicky feeling you're talking about.

[D]

Well, no, it's like why, why did you decide to focus on running instead of just lifting weights?

[A]

This 100 miles?

[D]

Yeah, a great question. Like you got super jacked, but you're like, no, I want to focus on running.

[A]

Yeah. I wanted a new goal that was going to really keep me like tunnel visioned again. Because sometimes when you're just like lifting weights, like even for you probably too, right when you're. There's no real consequence. Like if you don't have a strict deadline and a goal, like you're kind of just like going to the gym. Oh, I can skip a day. Or if this person invites me out here. Oh yeah, I can go out. Like I don't have. There's no deadline, there's no consequence, there's no accountability. So I was looking for something last year that was going to keep me locked the fuck in. So I called Gary Breaker's son, Cole and I asked him, I was like, what do you got going on this year? And he said, I'm running 100 miles. And I was like, oh, is that.

[B]

How it came up?

[A]

That's how it came up. Yeah. I was like, I called him on a run. Yeah, I was on a run and I was just like, yo, I want to lock in on.

[C]

When was this?

[D]

In August.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, oh, that was when it. Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I was like, I want to lock the in on something. So I called him. He's like, I'm running 100 miles. And I was like, what? Like. And he's like, yeah. And I was like. And then I also thought, yo, that could be a big content play to a hundred miles is digestible to every single person on the planet. Like, yeah, you know, an old person knows what it is. Someone that's not into fitness, everyone knows what running.

[B]

But bringing it back to his question of, like, why would you choose running over fitness? My question here is like, I feel like with running and running 100 miles, you know that you're going to hit the darkness, right? Like that fucking horrific moment of like, we heard you. Nine years of bring back the snack.

[C]

Wrap and you've won, but maybe you.

[A]

Should have asked for more.

[C]

Say hello to the hot honey snack wrap.

[A]

Now you've really won.

[C]

Go to McDonald's and get it while you can.

[B]

I should quit, right? You guys, tell me, have you ever.

[A]

You.

[B]

Have you ever hit that in the gym? You know, like, no, right?

[C]

No, not.

[B]

So I. I see what you're.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying is like, to your point, when did it actually get to like, yo, this is hard because you've done the.

[A]

In the race.

[D]

Yeah. Like, what mile? Or was there a point where you're like, this is actually gonna be really tough to fit well.

[A]

Yeah. So when I started to look into it, I knew it was gonna keep me away from all the. And it was basically gonna keep me only focused on this, and it wasn't gonna allow me to do anything that wasn't serving me. So freezer, I posted on my story and I said, I need someone to help me train for this. And then freezer tarps actually connected me and Matt.

[D]

That's how.

[A]

That's how we.

[D]

Pretty Canadian.

[B]

Isn't that crazy?

[D]

I thought you were Canadian.

[B]

No.

[D]

Oh, fuck. Yeah.

[B]

No, I fucking hate Canada, dude.

[D]

I.

[B]

Kyle ruined my Canadian.

[A]

You love Canada, dude.

[B]

All right, Toronto. Toronto is beautiful, but, like, I can't do it. We're going. We are going to Toronto next summer. Like, peak June.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Never again.

[D]

Toronto is fun in the summer.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Never again in the Winter.

[A]

Well, not to run 50 kilometers. Yeah, yeah. But we connected. Freezer connected us. And then I talked to Matt on the phone and, yeah, I knew it was the real deal right when I talked to him and he got me set up on a crazy training schedule. And right when I looked at the plan because he. He'd mapped it out all the way till the end. So I could see it was like, you know, I don't know. How many miles did we start running at the beginning? 50.

[B]

When we chatted, I said, what was your longest run in the last 90 days? You said 12 miles.

[A]

Because I was in Asia too.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And that was the thing, is that we. So we start. You started at, I think I said earlier, 13. And then it was like 13, 15, 16, 17, 20.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. And we just slowly built that out.

[A]

We started low, bro.

[B]

Yeah, it. Where it, like, became real to me was 80 mile week was when. No LA week, when. When we sat in your. In your. In your house and we put it up on the screen and we had. Which was. It was actually incredible. We were able to do this. We went through. With Gabe, went through your entire schedule and we manipulated your running to your business and we. We. We put everything on the schedule to like, Kyle has this. Kyle has that. His parents are coming. He's going to la. He has to film a podcast. And we, like, put it all on the calendar.

[A]

So Alaska and then.

[B]

Yeah, Alaska. Holy. Yeah, Alaska. And then we just looked at the TV and we were all like, okay, like. And I kind of left there and I was like. I was like, two weeks, like. Like they two. You got. I was like. I was giving you two weeks to see if you guys were real or not.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

So you.

[C]

At first you were like, I don't really know about these guys. Like, when I kind of talk maybe.

[B]

Like when I came down. See, I didn't even know. But I didn't even know about you guys, right? Like, Kyle said, oh, I'm gonna do it with friends. But I didn't even know that you guys were doing my training program. You know what I mean? Like, Like, I didn't know. I was writing the program for everybody. And you know, like, when. When we first started, I was like, okay, like, you know, just like you. Like you were saying earlier, like, we had to build up. I feel like we had to have a mutual trust with each other. Like, you know, you have to slowly build that trust. Like where Kyle's like, hey, like, does this guy actually know what he's talking about? And I'm like, hey, is this guy really gonna commit? Because just like you and I talked, you're like, oh. Like, who will you coach? And I'm like, I'm only gonna. I'm only gonna coach people that I want that I know are going to dial the in. Like, it's not about money. It's not about, like, I don't care if you just. You need to lock in.

[D]

Wait, did they. Were there any senses of them not locked in?

[B]

Yeah, well, this Kyle's.

[A]

Kyle.

[C]

He doesn't even know.

[D]

Yeah, I felt like every time I saw you pretty locked in first, like.

[B]

Dude, when you wouldn't wear a watchdog, like, that would with me, bro.

[D]

What do you mean, wear a watch?

[B]

So, like, he. Like. Like the running watch. Like, Kyle, the entire prep, not. Not for a single mile did he ever put a watch on. So when I would go to his calendar, it would tell me that his runs were incomplete because the watch syncs to the calendar, and the calendar says complete or not complete. So for the whole first.

[D]

You know.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, it tells me on the app. So when I. The first week I was coaching Kyle, I got on and everything's red, and I'm like, this dude is a fraud. Yeah, well, then I. Well, but then you had made a Strava, remember? Because when you didn't. Because I didn't. I didn't see your Strava until I got to Miami. I'm talking about the first two weeks. And so I'm like, calling him, and I'm like, yo, how was your run, buddy? Like, you know, thinking. He's, oh, bro, I didn't do it. He's like, oh, I was good. I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, yeah. He's like, I ran. I was like, do you have a watch? He's like, oh, no, bro, I don't want to. I don't want to use a watch. And I'm like, I'm like, bro, like, something is off. So I was heading down to Miami. I was like, yeah, like. Like, we're. We're going to find out. And now I got out of Miami. Everything was good. I found out that he was mooching out my programs to everybody. And.

[A]

You'Re still mad about that?

[C]

Oh, wait, you were mad about that?

[B]

No, I was never.

[A]

He was. I don't know.

[B]

No, I wasn't mad about it. I just thought it was kind of lit.

[C]

Like, Kyle would send, like, a whole schedule to, like, the whole chat that.

[A]

Was doing the 100.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So it was such an easy way to like, well, that's great, hold each.

[B]

Other, but guess what? I could have done that. Kyle was just never like, hey, like.

[A]

Well, I didn't want them blowing you all up individually too.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair.

[A]

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[D]

Did anybody actually struggle or almost not complete it?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I thought Mark was fucking cooked. Same. Which, like. And I. I'm giving him his flowers. I'm giving him. Hold on, I want to say I'm giving him his flowers right now because I thought he was fucking cooked. And I'm talking like mile 20 right off the bat because he started having stomach issues. He couldn't eat.

[C]

He was in.

[B]

He was shitting, which is dehydration. Right. When you're really sick, you're going to the bathroom, like you're dehydrating yourself. And I was like, do you remember when, like, he was.

[A]

When we were doing our training, the weeks were like 80 mile weeks, 100 mile weeks. So when you're running every day, you'd be surprised. You're actually just like, like we were running 21 day into what, like 15, 20, 15 to the next day. And it felt easy. We're laughing, we're like, this is so easy. But in prep for this, the last two weeks, you're only running like five miles, then a day off, then five miles. And then by the last five days, we weren't running at all.

[D]

So we have your body completely prepped.

[A]

Yeah. That you just taper off. So you're just like, you're resting your legs.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

When we started, I was gonna think that the pain was gonna come in around like our longest run's 31 miles, right? Yeah, we'd already done that. So I was thinking, okay, maybe you know, this is gonna get tough around mile 40. Mile 50 is when it's really going to start. But dude, we finally, we felt it early, bro.

[C]

It was fucked.

[D]

What was the pace? What was the pace per mile?

[B]

Well, I mean, overall it was a 1457. But what happened?

[A]

You're stopping, right?

[B]

But they did exactly the plan. Like we started at a 10:30 per mile and they ran a 10:30 for the first, pretty much for about damn near the first marathon. They ran the 10:30 and then we slowed down to 11:30s, 12:30s into like mile 60. And then they got this second wind from 75 to 85 and they ran, they ran like 10 minute pace flats.

[D]

Here's where it's at. Like, this is where it's interesting to me. So do you curate a plan? Like we need to be hitting these miles at this minute. He needs to be eating, snacking at this moment. And if we do that at the right times, then we're gonna have a high chance of success.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we had, I had everything planned out for like both of these. I mean for pretty much. I, I planned out for everyone else. And then like my primary job, Amanda and I was, our primary job was these two. And like we had like, we had sodium planned out, we had electrolytes planned out, we had water intake planned out, we had calories per hour planned out. And we would just, we would just circle and we would run bottles and food and bottles and food. I ran 54 miles.

[D]

So if he didn't while, while we.

[A]

Were, while we were brewing them.

[D]

Oh my God, you're sick.

[C]

He's like jumping out of a van, running up to us, running with us, and then running back to the vent. Like the van.

[A]

How many back, how many calories did we eat?

[B]

10,000 on the, like at the minimum that day. Yeah.

[D]

Holy.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Brad.

[B]

Brad. Brad ate 8, 000 of Rice Krispies only.

[D]

I guess it's easy if you just.

[B]

Eat, you know, you know, like the big ass, like.

[A]

Thanks.

[B]

Rice.

[A]

No, we're eating.

[B]

Brad ate a whole thing by himself.

[A]

Can you explain that? Because that's something that people don't know. I didn't know until I started watching 100 mile documentaries. I saw people drinking like Coca Cola.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No. With 100 mile ultra fueling, you're literally just putting any type of calories and sugars into your body. Like I was eating Gushers. I was eating M M's. Skittles.

[B]

What are the. What are the. The Tim. Timbits.

[A]

Timbits.

[B]

Timbits.

[A]

Donut holes.

[B]

Donut holes.

[A]

You just put anything in your body.

[D]

I'm like, now it's time to eat.

[B]

You know, we were kind of doing like 20 minute clock. Yeah. About every. Every 20 minutes we would. We would run something out. Like, like they were doing very well on 250 calories in a bottle. Like 250 calories of like a carbohydrate powder. Like a Gatorade, you know, I was working that shit, dog. I said that, I said that to, to the guys like in the doc where I'm like, yo, like, all right, all right. So Kyle had this.

[A]

Comes from the like shotgunning beer.

[B]

It was great. No, it's craziest fucking thing in the world. I would bring out a. A thousand milliliters of water, which is like, like here, throw me that, throw me that. Fiji. What is this? This is probably. How many milliliters of water is this? This is 500 milliliters. Okay, so double this right here. So Kyle would take double this and then one. It was like a soft flask. He would squeeze it and then go wham. And just suck the whole thing down. It was gone. Yeah, in a second.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And so 250 calories just bang like that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we'd hand him like two donuts or you know, something like that.

[D]

You feel re. Energized in the moment.

[A]

You don't feel like right in the moment, but it just keeps you. It keeps you going. Throughout. Throughout our training, I. One thing I learned too was the difference between fueling and not fueling before the runs.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because also it can kind of running can up your body a little bit.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Because. Well, let's talk about your cranking gels.

[B]

First time that you drank the donut and the Coke at 7:11 when we left, you were like, what the fuck?

[A]

Yeah. No, but just the, like, the fueling, like, it can kind of make your stomach a little. Barely a little bit. Right? So. But I've noticed there's just no choice. You have to. I've tried doing like a 15 mile run without fueling properly, and when you're fueling, it feels so much different. Yeah, it's. It's crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

While you're running, did you start to feel your legs give out?

[A]

So I noticed too, how much of a difference it made it with a group. And I mean, all respect to anyone.

[D]

Real quick, every dump, that's the pace.

[A]

We're all taking turns, kind of taking.

[B]

You were, you were pretty front and center. It would change, like, because Paul would go out front, Brad would go out front, Kyle.

[D]

Not really that important.

[C]

No, it was just, it was great doing it in a group with a group because let's say, you know, I'm down and a couple other guys are down. Like, you know, Kyle's up and other guys are up. So it kind of like uplifts us to like push even harder to like keep that pace. So it was a great mixture, like all around.

[D]

Okay, so then when did it get painful? If it did get painful or like.

[A]

There was a sink. So we're all running together because the, the, the road was wide. But there was a point around like mile 20 something where the cops pulled us over and they said, yo, like, yeah, the road's about to get like, skinny. You guys can't be having eight sprinter vans, like, driving here. It's too dangerous. You need to send all the cars up ahead. So we lost the music. And then the road got so skinny to where we were in single file for like a long stretch at night too. So no music, darkness, no talking to anybody. And that's when your mind is just. You're not occupied and you're. You're 25 plus miles in. So, like, when you're talking to your boys. Yeah, your mind's occupied. You're not thinking about the pain or if you're bumping music.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Your mind's distracted. But this was like. There was no talking, there was no music, it was dark.

[D]

For how long you think?

[A]

Like a good stretch of miles. And that's when it was. We were all like, dude, this sounds. That's when it hit me. And I was telling people, I was like, yo, this is gonna be torture.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were only 25 miles in and we had 75 to go. And I was like, I'm already feeling my legs.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, this is going to be hell.

[D]

Yeah. And then how many. How many, like, energy drinks are you consuming during that?

[A]

So we didn't have caffeine. We held off on caffeine Till what, like 2:00am yeah, dude.

[B]

Yeah, it was. Remember, it was.

[A]

That was going to be our saving.

[B]

It was midnight. I was trying to get you guys at midnight. And I remember you. You were like. There was one moment where you're like, no, I'm. I'm. I'm locked in. Like, I don't. I don't want it. I don't want it. Oh, yeah, okay. But like, once we gave it to.

[D]

You guys, caffeine at 2am we just.

[A]

Wanted to save it because that was going to be your last jolt. So if you have it at mile 40, it's like you're eventually gonna crash. Like, I think we had it around mile 60, 70, maybe.

[B]

Yeah, about. About 70, because remember, then we would. Or no, probably 60 because it was 60, 70, 80, 90. Because I just kept telling you guys, I was like, yo, like, at this point, just send it, like as much caffeine as you can take.

[A]

That's aid stations, too.

[B]

Was like, oh, yeah.

[C]

That was when Kyle enhancement.

[B]

Oh, Kyle took the Motrin and literally.

[A]

Like, exchanged his whole AM I had ibuprofen. Like, for a headache or just normal ibuprofen? Yeah, just normal. Nothing, dude.

[B]

He was going crazy. I had a.

[A]

My first energy drink and ibuprofen and I felt like Captain America, bro. I felt it was insane. Damn.

[C]

I was like, your energy was so.

[B]

Yeah, bro.

[A]

He's like, yeah, for like seven miles. And then.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, crashed again.

[A]

But it helped a lot. But those aid stations, bro, it became the way we thought about. It was not 100 miles. It was just. There was an aid station every. There's first one was 13 miles and then it was every 10. So mentally we just thought about not 100. It was like, all right, 13 miles. We. We'd go, we'd put our feet up for 10 minutes. We'd eat, get our water in us, and then map we should come.

[C]

It's five minutes. The first one was.

[A]

The first one was only five minutes.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

How long.

[D]

So how long was the break?

[B]

We did like a reverse taper. So like, instead of, you know, we, like, we got. We got slower each time. So aid station one was five. So we did five. These are minutes. 5, 7, 8, 10, 12, 15. And then once we got after that, six aid station, which was around mile 65. It was kind of just like. I would set a timer of 15 minutes, but I would just lie to them and just try to get them out as soon as I could. Sometimes it was a little bit faster than 15, but towards the end, it was about 17 to 19 minutes.

[A]

It was so nice getting there because it was just like. You got to think after running 60 fucking miles and we've only ran 31, like, we ran 60 miles, and you're getting to that aid station, and, like, you know, my parents are there. We're seeing the whole crew, too. Everyone's there, they're cheering and, like, you're putting your feet up like this, and Matt's like, all right, bro, you have 10 minutes.

[D]

And, like, this is at a resting station.

[A]

Yeah. But 60 miles in, and I'm just like this, and I'm like, bro, like.

[D]

Well, so I was happy.

[A]

I don't want to get up. Like, I don't want to get up.

[D]

I was gonna say, as a viewer, it didn't seem like there was as much like, you were. You're very calculated on how you guys had to set up, but it didn't seem like there was as much struggle as you thought there was going to be as from a viewing standpoint. Like, you didn't see anyone, like, on their hands and knees holding their stomach or like, anyone. Like. I mean, we were just beast.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I think.

[D]

I mean, I'm just saying.

[B]

I think. I think that that shows that. That we. We did a good job with what we were doing. I mean, obviously you can have the theatrics. If we were trying to, you know, play it out, like, yeah, it might have made it cooler, you know, or.

[D]

Like, surprised with, like, even five people. Like, not one person. Like, it's just, like, it looked. Seemed like you guys were on a mission, and it didn't come as hard as, like, it was anticipated to be.

[B]

No.

[A]

Because everyone in our group took the training. 11 out of 10. Like, you know, you were even in Miami, and you're like, yo, what are you doing today? I'm like, I gotta run tomorrow.

[C]

But it's running. It's weight training, but you also recovery.

[A]

To crank 100 miles in a week. You can't.

[D]

You.

[A]

When you run 20 miles, you literally have to, like, spend an hour stretching after. Then you got to spend, like, time with that theragun. Then you got to go sauna and cold plunge, and then you gotta sleep. You gotta sleep so you can run 15 miles the next day. So, like, we dedicated our entire last 75 days, like, pretty much a hundred percent to this besides business. Like, there was no fun. There was no dinners in Miami. There was no. I didn't go. I didn't even golf because my knees were cooked. Like, there was actually, like, no room for anything else but this.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's why it paid off. And I think we went into it so confident. It's because we knew if. If we weren't going to finish, then it just wasn't meant to be because, like, there was nothing more that we could have done to be more prepared for it.

[B]

I don't think. Like, there was just never a question of if you guys weren't going to finish. It was like, obviously, injury is always possible, but, like, never in my mind.

[D]

Not him, was it, like, it's gonna quit. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The last five miles was, like, the toughest thing I've ever done, bro. I was treating it. I was treating it as torture because it was just like. We got to the final aid station, was 93 miles, and like, yeah, I had my feet up and I was like, I'm almost there. But at the end of the day, seven miles is still, like. How long is that? Two hours almost.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, you're doing what?

[A]

So we still have to run for.

[B]

Another two hours, and it's like 15 minute pace.

[A]

Well, you're 93 miles in and, like, your legs. Like, my legs are legs, right? Well, no, and it's like, you're almost there, but put it that way.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Four hours.

[D]

I think you're like, oh, seven miles. But that's.

[A]

But it's still two more hours.

[D]

That's crazy.

[A]

There's two more hours of running lower.

[D]

So in the end, what was the final time? 25 hours and 15 minutes. Yeah, that was there a goal on.

[A]

What was your original guess?

[B]

When we were talking about the. The original guess. Like, my. When I. Like, if I was going to set the over under, it was 27. Like, that was my. That was my guess. And they went. They could have went 24, but we decided at the end that we wanted to. To slow down and that it was more important to finish together. Yeah. Like, because.

[C]

Can you get. Can you talk about how it was, like, almost impossible for six guys to start the race and finish the race?

[B]

Yeah, like, we talked about that earlier. Like, it's just, you know, people like, you know, you and your boy will sign up for a race, right? And, well, let's do this race together. And sometimes, like, y' all two don't even finish together.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But having six people that just show up and rip a race. I mean, here's the thing. But here's. Here's the testament to the people you surround yourself with. How do you find six that want to go run a hundred? You don't. Like.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, how is it. How hard is it to find six people that want to go do the same thing anyways? Like, you can't. I can't even figure out what. What food we want to get.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Let alone like, go do this, like, massive fitness.

[D]

It's crazy.

[C]

I mean, start to think about it. Can you even, like, get anyone to go to the gym with you?

[D]

Yeah, but.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, but I can't get people to run five miles.

[B]

Six people at the same time that want to do the same exact work.

[D]

Yeah. No. Possible.

[B]

Yeah. They don't work like that.

[C]

And what about like the actual, like, percentage of people in the world that have actually completed an ultramarathon? Isn't it?

[B]

Yeah. 004%. No, it was that one. That one site posted it. It was 0.0001 is what I. What I think that. That that post was that I saw. I don't know. People are calling this, like. People are calling this the. The biggest athletic achievement by a YouTuber of all time.

[D]

Yeah. That's what I've heard too. And I. I don't watch too many YouTubers. Like, besides lifting YouTubers.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So I don't know what others are doing, but it is pretty impressive. I think. Honestly, I think people are curious. I'll just ask Kyle. This, like, is this your whole. Is health and fitness your main focus for the future right now?

[A]

No, I think we're still going to do typical milk stuff too. Like, we got our Love island video we're planning coming up. We're still going to be doing comedy stuff. We got a ton of short pranks that we've. That we're filming.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I told you.

[D]

But once you accomplish 100 miles, are you still, like, gonna.

[A]

Fitness is a passion of mine too. I'm. I have no choice. I'm actually addicted to it. So that's just part of my life now too. And I'll definitely be doing. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna do more like this too. But I always want to make it entertaining and I want to make it big. So I'm gonna have my own personal fitness journey too. I'm definitely going back to hitting the weights for a while. Like, I'm gonna keep up with my running probably Run. Like, I might go for a little marathon PR Just while I still have the sauce, but definitely gonna hit the gym, get the weights, pack on some muscle again. Go back to. I don't want to be eating pancakes. I'm not looking at.

[B]

I think it's really cool.

[A]

Back to rice, ground beef.

[B]

You have a. Eggs. You have a. You have something really cool that you can. That you can do. You guys, like, all of you guys do. And that's, you know, the biggest thing about fitness is just, like, you said, like, right? Like, you're like. Like the running cult. Everyone is. So, like, you have to be a hundred percent in and dialed and locked, or you. Or. Or, like, you, like, you need. You need to be out. Like, that's why I was a black sheep in the running community for so long, because I was, like, hammering beer, smoking cigarettes, hitting the bong in the ice bath, you know, like, doing just funny and like. And like. And like, I was just being me. And, like, I was outcast within the community. And. But what you have is you have the capability of showing people that, like, hey, it's okay to not. To not make one thing your entire identity. Just like we already talked about, where, like, you're like, hey, like, I'll still enjoy a couple drinks, but then, like, I'm gonna go get my run in tomorrow, or I'm gonna go get my work in tomorrow no matter what.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, you're just showing people that.

[A]

Like, tonight we're firing a few beers.

[B]

We'Re fucking, my brother. I'm deleting this entire.

[C]

Coach, Matt's getting blacked out.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If I remember my name coming home.

[A]

From ufc, I'm gonna be a scary center. You can tell, bro.

[C]

He needs to become a milk.

[A]

Guys been acting, bro.

[B]

Oh, boy. I was starting to get a tick just thinking about it. I know.

[A]

What kind of a nutcase of a center could he be if he runs 900 across Texas?

[B]

Well, I told you I blacked out after the hundred, right? Did I not tell you that?

[A]

No. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, dude, I, I, I had. I. I had shotgun to happy at the finish, Kyle poured half a bottle of champagne in my mouth. I drank two happies. I helped him do his. And so I'm three happies deep, half a bottle of champagne, go downstairs. I had three beers, hit the blackjack table. One of the drivers came up and was like, yo, let's take shots. So I'm like, it. Let's take shots. And we did shots. And then next thing you know, I.

[C]

Wake up and you put 6k on black, right? Or 4k.

[B]

4K on black. I lost all of it.

[A]

He's like, I'm staying away from that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But by the way. By the way, real quick, that was.

[D]

You don't want to clarify. I would say the drivers. You mean the drivers that were driving during the race, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[D]

Because first I thought you meant the Red Rock driver.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no, no. The drivers that were driving to the race. But then, like, just for situational awareness here, that was. That was noon.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And then I woke up and it was like 9pm And I ate a cheesecake and I went to bed.

[D]

Yeah. I'm avoiding you tonight. I'm on my sober journey. Wait, no, I want to know about. Okay, so obviously you had a hangover, but what about physical? How are you guys actually feeling now?

[A]

I felt pretty good yesterday. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Three days sleep good last night. My legs are hurting. I kept waking up and my legs were just like. After the race when I came here, I was dead. I was like, bro. I wasn't. Like, they were trying to put my feet up like this and like, it was just seizing up and I was shivering. I had to put on my winter jacket and a beanie. I thought I was going to be rocked yesterday.

[D]

We were good.

[A]

We went in the hot tub, the sauna. Like, it felt a little bit better. No, that's all today. I'm just. I mean, it's two days after 100 miles.

[B]

This is.

[D]

The thing is, like, it's wheelchair to get here, right?

[A]

Gabe's roommate. Yeah.

[B]

They haven't had time to just decompress.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially today. Like, tomorrow, dog, you're gonna be wrecked.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because, like, you just. You've been all day on camera, talking, doing things, going around, moving around downstairs, upstairs. Like I told him, it's really gonna hit them when they go home and they're alone.

[D]

Yeah. Well, dude, this is a gift that Kyle has. Brad, you're the same way. But very few people can actually really commit to something and see it through. And every time he said he's gonna do it, he actually does it. It's pretty impressive. I think people on the Internet see that too, because you've done it now with just about everything you've said you're gonna do.

[B]

So that's why you.

[D]

That's.

[B]

That's.

[D]

When I see you cross the 100 miles, it's just like, dude, this did it again.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I can't believe we did it. I really can't like I was looking at just the videos and, and I'm like, we ran a hundred miles.

[D]

How many people really realistically hit you up after that? Like how.

[A]

I've never been blown up so much in my life.

[D]

It was insane.

[B]

Who was, who is like the biggest person to hit you up? That was like, holy.

[D]

I sound like two voicemails.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

Like, like, dude, I was, I was pre. Talked.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And. And I'm. I'm gonna. I have a brother and he called me and he was like, yo, dude, no one can ever talk this guy again. This guy just ran 100 miles and it kind of hit me and I was like, dude, you're right, bro.

[B]

There was a lot of.

[D]

Because the. He's a YouTuber. I'm.

[A]

Well, I'm looking back at all the clips now and obviously we've talked about this too, but anything on the Internet too, you can go into an idea with, like the best idea. Your whole team loves it. You think it through the strategy and you're like, yo, this is gonna hit because this, this is gonna hit because this. And sometimes, guess what, it just doesn't. Doesn't hit. Yeah, and we've done that with ideas, We've done that with streams. We put money into streams, like, where we're like, yo, this is going to be fucking huge. And it just turns out not good. So you can predict all you want what's going to do good with content, but you never actually know until you do it. And like, it was just good to see this stream. I knew it was going to be big because I think this is what people are craving on the Internet right now is like just people bettering themselves. And it was nice to see the success of the stream as well, to see all the clips and people just really liking it.

[C]

I just remember during the prep, Kyle would always be like, dude, like, what do you think's gonna like, hat? Like, yeah, is this gonna bang? Is this gonna be. And I'm like, dude, I was like.

[A]

I think this is gonna be really big. Yeah.

[C]

No one has done this. Like, no one as big of an entertainer like yourself has done something like this. It's truly like you are now like setting a standard, setting the tone, setting like a trend. I think other people might now have an itch to go out and do some like this and people will go back and be like, this is when Kyle did that 100 mile run and it could be the trend.

[D]

I agree. When you told me you were going to do this, I was kind of like skeptical in the sense where you're.

[A]

Like, because it's running, it's not entertaining too. Right?

[D]

Yeah. Who's going to be talking?

[A]

I know a lot of people, A lot of people have messaged me too. Like even, like I don't even want to put his name, but even said like, no one cares to fucking see you run.

[D]

He said that to you?

[A]

Yeah. No, yeah, he texted me that.

[D]

What?

[A]

Yeah, it's just a lot of people were just, you know, it's just, it's, it's nice to win. Oh, winning feels good, doesn't it?

[B]

Winning feels good when it feels good.

[A]

When you put in the work and you win and you shut people the fuck up. Yeah, that's one of my favorite feelings. Yeah.

[B]

Doubt me.

[A]

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[D]

Do you already have a next thing you're looking at fitness wise?

[A]

Yeah, no. I'm gonna go back in the gym for a bit and just try to like, I want to get like in really good shape again because running your, your diet's off. Like you're eating whatever the you want.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And like regardless of what people say, like, oh, you burn it off. Like I disagree with my body because.

[B]

Because you're inflamed like, like that. That's the composition difference. Yeah, you have like a body composition change because your body's inflamed. Your cortisol is higher. You're holding on to, to water because you're Retaining fluids because of carbohydrates. Like, you just don't look good.

[A]

Exactly. So I want to get in, like, nice shape, and then I'm going to maintain my running, and then we'll definitely do something again. But if we. I always want to top it. Right. It's like our bachelor video or anything else we ever do or hole in one or wine tours. Like, you always got to make it bigger. So it's. If we do do another challenge like this, it's going to be like, maybe it'll be with a special guest or maybe it'll be. I don't know what it will be, but I'm definitely 200 miles. But that's not enough. That's not enough. Like, it's got to be. It's got to be something that. Because what if I told you right now you're signing on to run 200 miles?

[D]

Yeah. I wouldn't be there. It wouldn't. I wouldn't be.

[A]

But you'd be like, yeah, you probably will, right?

[D]

Yeah, I'd be like. Like, if I change, for sure.

[A]

But it has to be something that I tell Steiny now. Like, yo, we're going to do this. And you're like, wait, what?

[B]

Why, though?

[A]

Yeah, because that's how you make it big, bro. This worked because people doubted us.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If we announce something, we can do that for fun. We're gonna. Yeah.

[B]

I just wanted to know, like, why?

[A]

Because what makes it big is people doubting you.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's why people tuned in, because they're like, are they actually gonna finish this?

[B]

Yeah, but don't you think they'll get to a point at some point? If you're living with that mentality that, like, it's just never gonna be enough?

[A]

Everyone deals with that.

[D]

We'll be there till we get it done.

[A]

Oh, that's. I told you that, though. But every. Every artist and every facet of entertainment deals with that. Yeah. Like, that's. That's the name of the game. Like, I'm sure an artist like Drake is always.

[B]

I know. I just personally, like. Like, like, after. Like, now that I've ran across Texas, like, you really can't top that. I did it again. And then, like.

[A]

But now you're doing something cool. You're running to the White House. Yeah, that's like. That's different.

[B]

That's fair. Yeah. It's like adding that.

[A]

Adding that spice, adding that. Making it. We're gonna. I'm gonna do for fun, because this is my passion. You know what I'M saying, like, we're gonna be doing this. This is a hobby for me.

[D]

Take a canoe from. From LA to Hawaii.

[A]

Canoe, bro.

[D]

Live stream that.

[C]

How many of water that would take us to Hawaii?

[B]

Why don't.

[A]

Why don't you set up a street, Brad?

[B]

It's called the ocean. Ocean.

[A]

Hold on.

[D]

I think a lot of people.

[B]

There's a lot of going on right.

[D]

Now from LA to.

[A]

What if we. Brad, why don't you give Steiny a fitness challenge? And let's see.

[B]

Brad, wait. It's the ocean.

[A]

I think that's what you need.

[D]

Yes, I'm. I'm actually really. I'm telling you right now, let me figure it out before I agree to.

[A]

Anything, because this is the difference. This is a difference. But you can't just have a goal. You need a deadline.

[D]

Yeah, I know. No, I know.

[C]

And you need to do it.

[A]

No, no, your problem is you've never had a deadline. Yeah, no, you have to have a deadline.

[D]

Like the amount of people that tell.

[A]

Me, like, when a real estate builder builds a building. What about.

[B]

What about 100. What about. What about 120 days to a six pack?

[D]

I could do that. I can get that.

[B]

Four months. Four months to a six.

[D]

My problem is I need to sweat some sort of, like, punishment or achievement.

[C]

Bro, you need to become disciplined. I feel like I've seen so many, like, stories of, like, I'm blocking in, I'm back in the gym. But, like, you're just not. So, like, as a viewer, I just don't believe in, like, anything that you say, I don't believe.

[D]

Trust me, I'm not the only one that's.

[C]

Yeah, do it like we said. Yo, we're gonna run 100 miles. We did that.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Now anything we say, people are like, yo, they're gonna go do that. I don't believe. I don't believe anything that you say.

[B]

Why don't you.

[C]

I'm just being.

[B]

Why don't you.

[D]

Why don't you imagine it's irritating?

[C]

Because it's like, bro, if you're gonna say you're gonna do something, stick to it and do it.

[D]

You know? David Goggins in with a billionaire a month. Did you ever see that?

[B]

Yeah. Jesse.

[D]

Jesse.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I should have Brad move in with me for, like, a month or something like that. Maybe not Brad.

[A]

No, maybe not Brad.

[B]

What if you take.

[C]

Not.

[A]

What if you take.

[B]

100 grand, you lock it in a suitcase, and if you don't have a six pack in.

[D]

120 days, you lose it oh, then I would do. Get this.

[B]

I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, that's accountability.

[C]

Think of it. Life or death. If you don't get the six pack, you die.

[D]

No, you're right.

[C]

That's how I look at the story.

[B]

Gun to sign his head and just. No.

[D]

For that kind of stuff. We'll figure something out. I promise you we will. Because I really need.

[C]

But I don't believe.

[D]

And I'm tired of it too.

[A]

No, I know.

[C]

I don't believe until I see it. I'll believe it.

[D]

I'm telling you. People around me are even like, damn it, dude, you haven't been drinking. You've been going out. Like, they're impressed. Like, I've started there and I've been in the gym. I swear to God, I've been in the gym five days a week because.

[C]

I feel like bullshit. And you're just like, I used a nightcrawler. Just fucking going out about waking up. Where's your boy? Lucas is like. Wasn't he there to, like, hold you accountable to fudgeing?

[D]

Yeah, he was dropped. That's why he's gone.

[A]

He was going too hard on him, probably.

[D]

No, no.

[C]

What happened? No, seriously, was he going too hard on you?

[D]

No, it just. He wasn't doing it. We were. He's a former Marine. And I'd be sitting there and we'd be smoking weed and I eating munchies, and I'd be like, dude, you're supposed to be Kimmy. That's another story. Okay, well, it's also just like, hilarious how you guys all just ran your 100 miles and you bring me in here. Like, even before this, though, I tell.

[A]

Steiny the most likes he would get on a post right now is if he puts. If he posted a transformation photo, he'd shock everyone, bro. I will.

[D]

I want.

[A]

Because everyone would doubt him. Everyone's doubting. Have you.

[C]

Have you written it down yet?

[D]

No, I will.

[C]

Okay, so I don't know.

[D]

We'll have something after this. Let me think of it first. And also, I'm being serious about the canoe stream because that will do numbers.

[B]

But no, that's. That's that.

[D]

Have you seen the Life of PI?

[B]

Someone. Someone.

[D]

It's the same thing.

[B]

Someone has done that. It's like.

[D]

It's like 70 days if we cano. And we have three trailing.

[B]

How much. How much you want to bet that.

[D]

Someone'S already done that?

[B]

Someone has went from. From.

[D]

They didn't live stream it, though.

[A]

No, dude, that's across the Pacific Ocean, I mean that'd be.

[B]

Brad doesn't know that there's one ocean.

[C]

That could take you from LA to Hawaii. We need seven oceans.

[A]

That would be a big stream.

[D]

Be huge.

[A]

Obviously.

[D]

Yeah. We'd have a trailer, a nice yacht trailer just in case. It'd be the most lit stream of.

[C]

All time and we'll be just like.

[D]

Bro, dude, that would be huge.

[A]

That'd be. That would take. That takes. That's a six hour flight. That would take like months.

[C]

Nah, bro, there would be like.

[D]

You're right, bro.

[B]

You're talking about it takes six days for a cruise ship to do that. That.

[A]

Oh yeah, you're. You can't do that.

[D]

Well, maybe there's like, maybe like Miami to like Bimini or some.

[B]

This guy spent 31 days sailing from Los Angeles to Hawaii. It's on you. It's on little Facebook. 31 days.

[A]

That's a long stream.

[B]

That's a long, long stream.

[D]

I don't know, I just think those videos are funny if like the guys are like, I spent 24 hours and something like 24 hours on a jet ski just in. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, some like that.

[D]

But yeah. Can you name anybody, like specifically? Pretty cool. That hit you up.

[A]

I mean the Drake thing was obviously sick.

[D]

He donated 150k.

[A]

Yeah, I mean that was cool.

[D]

That.

[A]

That was like at a good moment. That was at a good moment too. I think it was at like mile 50ish.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When it was like it was midnight.

[A]

It was night ops.

[B]

So 1am is 1.

[A]

Yeah, it was late at night and like, yeah, Drake came in and obviously that fudgeing energized us too. And it's like, okay, I'm going to finish this. Like having Drake pop in and donate 150k.

[D]

Yeah, that was lit. Yeah.

[A]

I'm just a lot of friends, like everyone just. Yeah, I think we just inspired a lot of people. And yeah, I'm just.

[D]

People hit you up specifically for advice.

[A]

Or like not advice really? No, just they're just like. Yeah. That was incredible. Like. Yeah, it's crazy to see.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So what if we got a bunch of other steinies together and transformed all of them and documented live stream the entire thing.

[D]

Well.

[A]

Yeah, we've talked about getting a house and just having a 24. 7 stream with a bunch of. But it'd have to be characters. But you could have like trainers there.

[B]

Yo, if we did like, if we did like the Biggest Loser type of.

[A]

Vibe but like with. With updated stream, like you have a 24, 7 stream and it's like a reality show. But it's also.

[D]

Kyle, about this what stream I wanted to do, but I don't think we should do it is go to the Diamond Jam.

[A]

But everyone's done that now. Right.

[D]

I just think it hit different with like.

[B]

That's the one. That's the gym in la.

[A]

I mean. Yeah, I'm down to go to dunk.

[B]

Wait, wait, is that right? Is that the unc. Is that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I. I'm just curious about Diamond Gin because we just did a different, like their training is a different kind of hard. Like.

[A]

Yeah, we're not ready for that yet.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

But wait, so would you set goals for like a weight? Like getting actually like Brad jacked.

[A]

Brad Jack. Maybe not on steroids.

[D]

Well, yeah, maybe not like that, but.

[A]

Yeah, I won't make that public though, because I've already done that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't want to like annoy people with like. I'm saying, I'm saying, like the public goals, I'll probably make them more entertaining. But my next goal personally is going to be just to get in like disgusting shape for sure. While maintaining my running.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So when I do want to jump into something, I'm not like starting from zero again.

[D]

I could tell right now, like, you're just looking at me like condescendingly. Like you, like think you're better than me right now because you just ran this on.

[A]

Not just because it's 100. It's been like that for. No, I've been trying to get you to lock in. I could, I could get him to lock in. If I sent him a plan, we could get him to lock in.

[B]

Like Kyle sends everybody.

[A]

He doesn't want to follow it now.

[D]

We'll figure something out.

[C]

Wait till he's ready because I would hate to be.

[D]

We've talked at the gym.

[A]

Switch. He's slowly switching. But you're still just. You're a little scared of the work. That's what it is.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Probably you're. He's scared of the pain a little bit.

[C]

Well, that's what I was going to ask. Like, what is holding you back? Because, like, you are so relatable to so many of these viewers watching. Like, what is holding you back from making the change?

[D]

I'm so used to being a certain type of personality on online and like a character that I play that it's a complete switch up for me.

[A]

Well, you could be even more cocky.

[B]

That's what you were talking about.

[A]

Yeah, I was talking about that, Yeah.

[B]

I was talking about that.

[D]

Yeah. So he's probably gone through, like we have a representation. And so that is a thing in your head where it's like you're risking showing a side of you that people may not want to see.

[A]

I think in 2026 though, people want to see authenticity.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And like, I think everybody as a person, I've noticed, is just trying to better themselves and everyone wants to be the best version of themselves. And I, I've realized too, like, just like, honestly, like, you know, being around my gramps in the hospital and when I was there, like, it just gave me time. Like seeing him like that, it kind of put like my life into perspective. And it's like, dude, you're gonna die one day too. Like, everyone's gonna, like, life is not forever. And it's like, why are you living your life? Don't want to be selfish. You want to help people, obviously. But why are you living your life for anyone else? Anyone else's happiness?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you should be living your life right now. Like you're gonna die one day. Are you gonna be on your deathbed thinking about, oh, I tried to make these people on the Internet happy. And like, no. Yeah. Be thinking about that. Like, you gotta live your life right now for your purpose, for what you want to do, what you want to achieve.

[D]

My mind changed recently with that too. Like, I remember even recently, I went on a three day bender and I, I used to look at when I'd go out to the club like two, two years ago, like the guys that weren't partying, like, oh, those kids are. And then you look at the guys that are there till 6 or 7am Two, two or three nights a week, you're like, yo, those guys are losers. And I kind of realized like, dude, you're, you're a loser.

[C]

You had an aha moment.

[D]

Like, why do I want to feel like this mentally be down every day of my life and not. Then you're just slowing down, accomplishing more that's gonna be productive for your life.

[A]

I'm kind of looking at this like decade too. Is like it's the second half of a decade. Yeah. Where it's kind of just like a new chapter. And it's not like we're not going to damn party.

[B]

Realize it.

[A]

Yeah. It's 20, 26, so it's like it's the second half of a decade. So it's not like we're not going to like party or drink or crush happy dads. Like tonight we're going to UFC. We just completed 100 miles. We're going to have some drinks. We're going to fucking celebrate. We have a reason. We have a reason to celebrate. But they're just like going out on a Saturday night in Miami for no reason at all when you have nothing to celebrate. But I'm treating it now for my life is like, yo, I'm starting from zero. Yeah. And like, there's a bunch of. I want to achieve.

[B]

Doesn't it make it a little bit sweeter, too?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where you're like, I'm just.

[A]

But let's celebrate when we have something to celebrate for.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Not just going out and partying for no reason.

[B]

It makes it sweeter. It makes it.

[A]

Bro, that's just not gonna get you anywhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna celebrate now when I have something to celebrate. Obviously, if we're watching some games with the boys, we'll crush them happies and stuff, too. But just going out and partying, it's just a waste of time.

[D]

I still think we should do a stream where we all get dropped off on an island with no items, and we see who can last the longest.

[B]

Dude, bring me.

[D]

Well, no, you'll be way ahead of everybody, but I think that's another thing we should do.

[B]

No Survivor.

[D]

Yeah, we've talked about that really badly. I think that's a sick idea.

[A]

But we talk about this too, and it's like. I mean, you just look at the success of this stream, too. Streaming compared to YouTube is just.

[D]

But we have a better idea of what's going to do well on YouTube and streaming. You never.

[B]

Yeah, but this. This show, I think showed you. You tell me.

[A]

I guess Survivor Live is way better than a Survivor edited, so.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

That's a thing.

[C]

But yeah, just lose her live compared to edit.

[A]

Like, live is just where it's really.

[D]

Ever live with cut cams to us trying to survive and like a rabbit over a fire and eating it like a.

[B]

Well, that would taste so good.

[D]

That would be insane.

[A]

Yeah, it would be crazy. I mean. Yeah, the success of the stream, too. If this was just a YouTube video, there's no way it wouldn't have made as much noise.

[D]

Right.

[B]

It'll be interesting to see how. How the Nelk video does or how the video does on the NEL channel. Yeah, I'm very interested.

[A]

I think people will love it.

[B]

No, no, I do, too. But I'm excited for. For you to see oh, they like this.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If you guys don't know too. We obviously did the stream, but for the last, I guess, three months, I've been documenting pretty much everything from like, the training to the business to like, just personal stuff. So we are dropping like a whole documentary about the behind the scenes of this training too. That's like, pretty. Pretty raw. We're working on it right now and it could be out in a few weeks, but we're gonna drop it on the Nelk main channel because it's. It's just a raw and authentic and you're just gonna see all the. That I went through to kind of get the gold done. It's pretty cool.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But this is awesome, dude.

[D]

Congratulations, Matt.

[A]

I owe you big. I'm sorry for on my leg and you touching my shirt as well.

[B]

What happened, Kyle? On me.

[A]

I didn't running. I didn't. On you. I didn't solid that whole day.

[D]

Wait, you were running and you. You, like, farted and it went.

[A]

No, I didn't fart. We had to outside too, bro.

[D]

That's where you grab your boy's hand and then you just each hold each.

[A]

Other and you do it. You've never done that though, in the desert? No, I've never done that in the desert. That's some weird one.

[D]

Friends. You just grab each other's hands and you hold each other and just go.

[C]

Have you in the desert?

[D]

Yes, just like that.

[A]

Why would you need to hold hands?

[D]

How else are you gonna squat? Not fall over, bro.

[A]

Just squat.

[D]

What kind of terrain are you on? You're playing black round. I was on a hill.

[B]

I've never held anybody.

[D]

Okay, whatever. No, you guys are making it weird. You're making it weird. You're making it weird.

[A]

Anyways, I a little bit on my calf and then he massaged my calf and got in his hand.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[B]

No, no, no. But this was mile 13. Like, this wasn't like. Yeah, this wasn't deep. Yeah, this was fresh.

[A]

Yeah. I owe you.

[B]

I forgive you.

[C]

Wait, after you did your first nature, how do you feel?

[D]

It's awesome. Oh, that's great.

[A]

Yeah, right?

[B]

Parking lot pisses are the new thing.

[D]

No, I prefer to piss outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go outside of my house to piss outside.

[C]

I think life has changed, right?

[B]

Yeah. In nature.

[D]

Yeah, it's a.

[C]

That was so refreshing.

[A]

All right, well, this was awesome. We gotta head to. Thank you, boys. Matt, love you.

[D]

I'm down to you, bro.

[A]

Let's just continue grinding. Being the best versions of ourselves.

[D]

Just when you walk out to ufc, like, have the Canada flat, do something.

[B]

Little Michael Chandler action with the Canada flag.

[D]

Can we get a trophy or something for you to walk out?

[A]

You're supposed to buy me something, bro.

[C]

You didn't get him a whole outfit, like a sick.

[D]

No, I have something. I have something. I got something.

[B]

Is it here?

[C]

Do you have it?

[D]

It's in my hotel. I'll bring it.

[A]

We gotta head to ufc. So good.

[D]

Congrats, man. Yeah, thank you.

[A]

Thanks for all the support.

[B]

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And moral battles in America.

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[B]

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[D]

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[B]

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