Nick Shirley | Ep. 180

Summary

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FULL SEND PODCAST – Ep. 180

Guest: Nick Shirley
Release Date: January 7, 2026
Summary by Episode Segments with Timestamps

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Episode Overview

This episode features viral investigative YouTuber Nick Shirley, whose recent exposé on daycare fraud in Minnesota sparked national attention, led to the political downfall of Governor Tim Walz, and triggered government investigations. Nick discusses his investigative process, the backlash he’s faced, the broader implications of welfare fraud, his approach to content, and his plans to uncover corruption in other states. The conversation is candid, irreverent, and mixes humor with hard-hitting political critique.

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1. New Year, Viral Moments, and Introduction to Nick Shirley (01:22–08:13)

• Hosts share New Year’s resolutions; mostly humor, gym, and sobriety claims.
• Viral pop-culture event: Discussion of the Alex Earl–Tom Brady New Year’s rumors. The hosts suspect it was a “set up” for publicity, joking about social climbing and media manipulation.
  • Quote:
    “That's the name of the game, dude...as a girl, dating a guy of status makes you so much more popping.” (04:44)
• Transition to Nick Shirley:
  • Recognized for going viral with YouTube investigations, especially related to daycare and welfare fraud.
  • Intro as a young, previously lesser-known creator who is suddenly at the center of politics and media coverage.

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2. Nick Shirley’s Viral Exposé: Backstory and Fallout (08:13–13:58)

• Nick started YouTube at 15; 23 now, has uploaded weekly for two years.
  • Quote:
    “For the past two years, I've uploaded every week for over 104 weeks at this point.” – Nick Shirley (08:28)
• The daycare exposé in Minnesota documented nearly empty “learning centers,” misspelled facility names, and revealed major fraud.
• Unexpected consequences:
  • Direct threats, doxxing, and the need for personal/family security.
  • Death threats and hostility, particularly from those implicated.
  • 89% of identified fraudsters Somali—racial/religious tension in the backlash.
  • Nick’s work gets mainstream media attention, including Fox News and engagement from Elon Musk and politicians.
  • Quote:
    “Now I have people doxxing me, coming after my family... I have a security guy with me right now just because I pissed off a pretty bad group of people to piss off.” – Nick Shirley (08:43)

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3. Deep Dive: How Did the Fraud Work? (10:16–21:27)

• Nick was tipped off by a local named David; learned of fake daycares, “learning centers” with no kids, and massive government payouts.
• The misspelled “Quality Leering Center” operated for 8 years, amassing nearly $2 million while maintaining over 90 violations.
• Money funneled through transportation companies and airports, cash potentially ending up in Somalia—some speculation about links to the terrorist group Al Shabaab.
• Governmental negligence (or complicity): Failure to notice or act—especially under Governor Tim Walz.
  • Quote:
    “He’s enabled the fraud to keep happening... How long would it take for you guys to notice someone from your—one of your employees is stealing a million million dollars?” – Nick Shirley (14:03)
• Nick’s viral video led to immediate freezing of funding, new investigations, and Waltz dropping out of re-election.
  • Quote:
    “I took out Tim Waltz. Like his political career as of right now is over.” – Nick Shirley (15:15)
• Nick’s neutrality and age made his expose more effective than legacy media.

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4. Media, Political Reaction, and Personal Safety (13:31–26:27)

• Mainstream left-leaning media downplayed or attempted to debunk Nick; accused him of being “far right” or a “white supremacist.”
• Backlash included:
  • Doxxing of Nick’s family members.
  • Pervasive online attacks and attempts to undermine his credibility—even when facts are indisputable.
  • Support came from Officer Tatum’s nonprofit, providing security funding.
  • Nick’s parents, especially his mother, involved in filming content and emotionally/operationally supportive.
• Nick’s personal background: Clean lifestyle (sober, religious, no criminal record), which undercuts attacks against his character.
  • Quote:
    “I feel like I live my life in a pretty morally correct way... I don’t drink, don’t smoke, I’m not out here having sex with random girls. I’m a virgin.” – Nick Shirley (22:12)
• Reflection on what separates his reporting from partisan creators:
  • Refuses to align overtly with either side; focuses on field reporting and direct evidence.

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5. The Scope of U.S. Welfare Fraud and Broader Corruption (17:05–29:56)

• Nick estimates Minnesota fraud in the tens of billions: “The government right now is saying anywhere, anywhere, upwards of 9 billion. David estimates...80 to 100 billion.” (18:58)
• Similar fraud believed to exist nationwide:
  • California: $24 billion missing for homelessness.
  • Political campaigns benefiting from NGO/charity/welfare scams.
  • Politicians protecting or benefiting from graft.
• Minnesota as a model for how easy it is for organized groups to exploit U.S. welfare—an indictment of systemic vulnerabilities.
• Nick’s impact: Legislation and federal action followed his video; 2,000 federal investigators now examining Minnesota alone (41:02).
  • Quote:
    “They just froze all the funding...across all 50 states...What I did, I could have saved America billions of dollars.” – Nick Shirley (20:22)
• Voting vulnerabilities: One legal voter can vouch for eight others in Minnesota, making fraud easy to perpetrate and conceal.

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6. Culture, Media Strategy, and Content Plans (29:56–38:47)

• Nick’s approach: Neutrality, evidence-first, working independently, with a focus on field documentation vs desk commentary.
• On media appearances: Fox News, Don Jr., but CNN and others only attempt “gotcha” segments.
• Future plans: Investigate California, New York, nationwide—welfare, homelessness, and infrastructure fraud.
• Personal safety considered; increased notoriety means higher risk.
• Potential international content: Interest in exposing situations in Venezuela, Brazil, and elsewhere.
• Discussion of exposing daycares at scale: Warning against creators copying the formula without due diligence or factual backing.
  • Quote:
    “If you’re going to do it, make sure you do your due diligence.” – Nick Shirley (34:27)

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7. The Broader Social and Political Climate (43:06–56:57)

• Quick rise to prominence:
  Nick’s X video garnered 135+ million views, and his following skyrocketed (over 1 million on X, 1.5 million on Instagram in a week).
• Emotional toll:
  Anxiety, sleeplessness, concern for family safety, but an underlying sense of duty.
  • Quote:
    “I think now… I've taken on a lot more responsibility.” – Nick Shirley (55:06)
• The right celebrates his impact; the left doubles down on denial.
  “How stupid you have to be to support fraud. Like, it makes no sense.” – Nick Shirley (49:55)
• The hosts praise Nick’s perseverance, integrity, and courage, noting his path from a small creator to a nationally significant journalist.

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8. Notable Quotes and Moments

• On the “learning center” misspelling:
  “That daycare has been in existence for eight years, has over 90 violations...they put up ‘quality leering center.’” – Nick Shirley (11:30)
• On media reaction:
  “They just can’t accept the fact that fraud was happening and they didn’t get the story.” – Nick Shirley (13:31)
• On his lifestyle/credibility:
  “I try not to get too involved with anything. Like I said, I don’t drink, don’t smoke...I’m a virgin and go to church.” – Nick Shirley (22:12)
• On blowing the whistle:
  “I just exposed fraud, like isn’t that something everyone should be celebrating?” – Nick Shirley (16:27)
• On political duplicity:
  “That’s why he’s [Newsom] so dangerous... he’s a good bullshitter.” – Nick Shirley (48:45)

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9. Final Segment: Reflections, Advice & Looking Ahead (56:58–end)

• Nick’s background:
  Family support, Mormon upbringing, one minor misdemeanor (bike stunt). Clean slate means attacks rarely land.
• Advice and inspiration:
  Persevere independently; don’t seek validation from big networks or established brands.
  • Quote:
    “It's better if you blow up not needing like a network.” – Nick Shirley (58:20)
• Nick declines debate-style content, believing real-world evidence has more impact than arguments.
• Hosts encourage Nick to continue exposing fraud, especially in California, to help taxpayers demand accountability.
• Nick reiterates it’s about the work, not partisan gain:
  “I think, like, what I'm doing right now is probably a little bit more important where people can really—it could really change people’s minds versus, like, a debate.” (54:50)

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10. Episode Takeaways

• Nick Shirley is reshaping how youth-driven investigative journalism exposes defining political corruption stories, using social media reach and a disciplined, evidence-based approach.
• His viral work is credited with causing immediate political fallout, sparking legislative action, and mobilizing federal investigations.
• Despite threats, doxxing, and intense backlash, Nick remains committed to neutral, fact-driven reporting—and sets his sights on new targets.
• His authenticity, grounded lifestyle, and outsider status make him a unique figure in both new media and politics.

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For More:
Find Nick Shirley on YouTube, X (Twitter), and Instagram for updates on his next investigations.
Stay tuned for Full Send Podcast’s international and U.S. political coverage in 2026.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

What's your guys New Year's resolutions?

[C]

I'm doing dry January. I've been sober for two weeks. It's been.

[B]

That's a lie. Wait, I swear we had this combo exactly last year in December, didn't we?

[C]

No, I'm. I'm taking it very seriously. I am.

[B]

But you just drank, didn't you? I saw you. A booby trap.

[C]

That was in December. Was it? Yes, it was. Dude, it was in December. Okay, but that's my New Year's resolution. Selima, what do you got?

[D]

Yeah, I've been drinking too. Been sober. I think what we're doing challenge up until April.

[B]

I got a wedding on January 31, so it's probably gonna be a little wet then.

[D]

But just gym this year. I want to post a lot more.

[C]

Why don't you try and get to set a handicap goal?

[D]

I just want to get better. Just keep getting better. I mean, breaking 80 is what I want to do.

[E]

Huh?

[C]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

We got Nick Shirley pulling up. He's been going viral. You guys been seeing his.

[C]

I didn't know about his stuff before. I know you guys linked with him in Greenland.

[B]

Well, he was trying to help us get into the seacot jail in.

[C]

In Utah.

[B]

El Salvador.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[B]

So you guys, we saw him in Greenland when we went there, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So he's been. He's been grinding and. Yeah. It's good for him that it's.

[C]

I don't know about this. Is this his first, like, obviously it's his biggest YouTube video. But was like.

[B]

Was this a YouTube video, though, or was it just IG content?

[D]

It was a video. Yeah. He went to all the learning centers for all the daycare centers. I don't know, dude. There's no kids.

[C]

Yeah, I know. I've got super invested into it for, like, three days and was just fascinated by the fact that they spelled learning center wrong. There's no kids. And I just love the fact that that's. You can get like, he's trying to do something actually really good, and he gets a ton of backlash from the other side. It's just hilarious, bro. Like, because they're missing out on the fact that this is a kid who is just grinding YouTube and content. He doesn't have any agenda. He's not with any party. He's just trying to expose.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And he's leaving it up to the people's.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, for them to decide.

[C]

And he's doing something really great. He's been on Fox News like, five times. He's going at it with the potential, but now no longer VP Tim Waltz, which is like, crazy getting this amount of attention. And people are just like, Tim Waltz's response. Did you see it? The white supremacy comment.

[B]

Well, I guess he's just trying to appeal to his voting demographic, which is probably a lot of immigrants there. Right.

[C]

Yeah. But it's just such.

[B]

I think they just get advice and.

[C]

They'Re just look out for the taxpayer first.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Right.

[C]

That's. That's why I didn't like that.

[B]

So what you guys do on New Year's, Anything I didn't honestly do this year stayed in.

[D]

Stay.

[F]

We all.

[B]

This was our first sober New Year's probably since I was like, 16.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

I don't remember the last time.

[B]

One thing I did see on New Year's. I got to talk about this. What did you guys see? Alex, Earl and Tom Yeah, I know. That went viral. You obviously saw it.

[C]

But, yeah, complete setup.

[B]

I was just shocked to see that.

[C]

They said, I think they set Tom up. I don't think you get that.

[B]

I think so, too.

[C]

I told you that.

[B]

You don't get that. No, I agreed with you. I agree with you right away.

[C]

They're calculated, bro.

[B]

I don't think they set him up. Well, yeah, you're right.

[C]

They did set them up, because you don't get super tough.

[D]

You just need the shot of them next to each other.

[B]

So what we mean by setup is Alex Earl said, yo, Tom's gonna be there. They were definitely flirting, you know what I'm saying? But I think Alex definitely had one of her girls snipe a little Snapchat video.

[C]

It was too perfect.

[B]

And then maybe they DM'd it to TMZ off a burner account because she knows, too. It's like, as a girl, too, and it is the truth. Dating a guy of status makes you so much more popping.

[E]

Of course.

[C]

That's the name of the game, dude. But I. I don't think you can get that good of a shot where she's touching his back, whispering in his ear without having someone prepared.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Like, there had to be someone, and it's a perfect angle.

[E]

Great.

[C]

And then you don't know where that.

[B]

It was like a Scorsese shot there.

[C]

If that account. If there was a girl that posted that, you'd be able to find her page, which doesn't exist. It's just random accounts posting it. So she obviously sent it off to someone. I don't know if it's a good or bad look for Tom. Like, I don't know how you guys feel if that's a good for Tom or bad. I've seen both.

[D]

I mean, what, she's 25 and, what, Tom's, what, 45? I mean, it's Tom Brady.

[C]

Let him do what he wants.

[E]

I agree.

[D]

I mean, if he's messing with that, he's messing with that.

[C]

I'm saying, I'm wondering if he was okay with that getting leaked or if he was.

[B]

I think it would give him a lot of backlash, obviously, because she's younger.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But, I mean, at the same time, it's like, dude, if you're a couple beers deep in St. Barts and, like, Alex Earl's all over you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, at the end of the day, Tom's one of the boys. Like, what would you do if Alex Earl was all over you in St. Barts after your eight Beers deep. I.

[C]

That scenario is so non existent that.

[B]

I know, but it's like, I mean, fuck, he's. At the end of the day, he's one of the boys, right? So it's like, fuck. I mean, that's.

[C]

It's just crazy to see that shit. And I feel. I feel for Tom. Tom's the goat.

[B]

So what do you do if you're the her ex? Braxton, dude.

[C]

See, that's the other thing is this. It's evil. It's an evil world. Oh.

[B]

It's just one guy where it's like, dude, your ex, you break up and she fudgeing rebounds with Tom Brady.

[C]

Yeah, that's got to like.

[B]

You're just fucked in every category.

[D]

So go.

[C]

Braxton could get. Probably get his gift back.

[B]

Oh, he's. I mean, he's tearing it up. Once you date a girl like Alex Earl or Madison Beer or Kylie Jenner. Yeah. You're set for life in the pulling chicks category.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Like, look at, like, Zach be.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, after he did a Madison Beer, it's like, sure, you lost her probably. I mean, and. But after that, you're just.

[C]

Yeah, you're set. It's like the girl I got after.

[B]

Kylie Jenner, it's like you hit. After that, it's like, all right, you're good.

[C]

The girls are almost more attracted to the girl that you dated than they are.

[B]

They are. That's what it is. Well, because girls also want to be, like, their role models, right? So, like, you know, if Giselle might.

[C]

Be Alex Earl's role model?

[B]

Ah, yeah.

[C]

I don't think so.

[B]

I think Tom's just the man.

[C]

Well, that too.

[B]

Yeah. That's one guy. It's like, no matter how loyal your girl is to you or you think she is, I would not want my girl spending a week with Tom Brady.

[C]

Would you let him hit your girl? No.

[B]

No. Okay. I wouldn't let him. But I mean, that's.

[E]

That's.

[B]

I mean, there's, you know, what's tiny? No, there's certain. No, there's certain guys that he's like.

[A]

No matter how loyal you think your.

[B]

Was, I would not prefer her to be around, you know, dude, imagine Braxton just trying to. If I had the choice, like, why would I prefer that?

[C]

No, but imagine it's 20, 26, January 1st. He's all ready to lock in, and the first thing he sees is his girl in that setting.

[B]

But you know what? It probably weren't they teammates, too?

[C]

No, he played in Miami and Houston.

[B]

Oh, I don't think someone said they were teammates.

[C]

Maybe for a little bit. Anyways, Curly's here.

[B]

How are we doing? Yeah, you can hop in.

[E]

Thanks for having me. Of course.

[B]

Were you in town or.

[E]

No, I was in. You did pbd though.

[B]

That was.

[E]

Yeah, I did PBD the other day. I just did Shawn Ryan yesterday.

[B]

Okay. Where's he at? Nashville.

[E]

Nashville.

[B]

So you came here, flew there?

[E]

Yeah. And then trying to decide where I want to go tomorrow because I have some other stuff set up, but it's all up in the air right now.

[B]

Damn. So you've been on like a run since this.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Have you talked about, like your YouTube come up and stuff like that too? Because I feel like you've obviously gained a lot of new fans with the viral, like exposing the fraud in Minnesota.

[E]

Well, yeah, I've been doing YouTube since I was a high schooler, since I was like 15. And then.

[B]

How old are you now?

[E]

23.

[B]

23.

[E]

And so since past two years, I've uploaded every week for over a hundred and over 104 weeks at this point. And so every week, Every week on.

[B]

The same day or.

[E]

No, no, not on the same day. Once a week? Yeah, just once a week.

[C]

That's still huge accomplishment.

[B]

That's the way to do it, right?

[E]

Yeah, you have to, especially in like the early phases, to build a consistency out. And so now after all this happened, it's been completely different because now I have people doxxing me, coming after my family. I can have a security guy with me right now just because I pissed off a pretty bad group of people to piss off.

[B]

Really?

[E]

Well, it's millions of dollars and primarily Somalians that are taking the money.

[C]

What's the response been from the Somalians? Have any of them hit you directly?

[E]

Oh, yeah, Lots of death threats have came my way. And then I went back to Minnesota after I filmed it and people were stopping at intersections, coming after me. Security had to like step in front of them.

[B]

How many security rules when you go to Minnesota?

[E]

About four. Four. And why did you go back for part two?

[C]

Okay.

[E]

Because there's more fraud. Like the daycares was just one part of the fraud.

[C]

What's the next fraud?

[E]

There's the transportation companies. There's millions of dollars being funneled through the airports that go back to Somalia. There's a lot of fraud.

[B]

Did you expect this kind of like death threats and stuff like that too? Probably not, right? No, I didn't anticipate something like that.

[E]

No. I just was posting my video like Is my weekly upload just like how.

[B]

When you guys do 100%?

[E]

Yeah. You're. You kind of skin the rhythm of posting.

[B]

And so I do think it would snap like that. Or were you kind of just like another week?

[E]

And I knew it was gonna be a big video. And then I was like planning my next week's video. And then I go to the gym, I post my video and I get on X and people are taking the clip. I'm like, shoot, I gotta go post my video on X. And. Because everyone was taking it before I could even post it. So then I hurry and go back and post the video, I get done with the gym and. And then it becomes the most viral video ever on X. For an expose style video.

[D]

What made you look into the. To the fraud in Minnesota?

[E]

I went there last June and the Minnesotans were telling me all about the fraud happening. And I said, well, I can't do anything. I can't just like paint the fraud happening on one group of people or I just can't say fraud's happening without any evidence. And so I just kind of kept looking into it. And then this guy named David, he reached out to me and he said, I have all this information from the Capitol with all the numbers and these daycares have absolutely no kids inside of them.

[C]

Who was the first person that covered it? That when it took off from either X or whatever, when it really went crazy.

[E]

Yeah. So people started picking it up. And then Elon, he engaged with it. And I think he retweeted it. And then later in the day he commented on it. Then later in the day he. He commented again on it. Same prosecute, Tim Waltz. And then after that, JD Vance retweeted it. Then the next morning, I wake up the cash Patel's talking about how the fraud's happening and then Pam Bondi's talking about it. And then just quite literally everybody on the Internet was talking about it like it was impossible.

[C]

Here's what I want to know is because obviously the most viral part is they misspell learning center. How long did that place exist? And like, are you surprised no one else fucking notices that they have a learning center? Eight years, right?

[E]

Yeah. So that daycare has been in existence for eight years, has over 90 violations. And then they moved it. They moved in a business who's friends with Ihan Omar, the business owner is. There's photos of that. And then they open up this daycare in the back of it. They literally. They literally cut open a door. The door wasn't there in 2021, they cut open this door and then they put up quality leering center. And it just happened for years. And they received $1.9 million from the government and they had received even more millions before that. And nobody said a word. And that building is just a few blocks away from the Timberwolves arena.

[B]

Did you see the guy's response to it outside the store or outside the daycare?

[E]

Yeah, he's a complete clown. At that same time, the commissioner of children is talking about how that daycare was closed a week ago. And so now they're all showing face. Like there's even been reports of people daycares paying kids upwards of $1,500 to go in their kids in the daycare.

[B]

So are they all Somalian owned?

[E]

Yeah. So 89% of the fraud is there.

[B]

Like one white day or care that's like taking advantage of the fraud or is it all Somalians?

[E]

Yes. So there was like one of the ringleaders of it, she was a white lady, she got arrested. However, 89% of the fraud being committed in Minnesota is by Somalians.

[B]

How did the Somalians come up on this business?

[E]

What are Somalians known for?

[B]

Like stealing, like boats and shit?

[E]

Yeah, it's just kind of Phillips. Captain Phillips.

[C]

Great movie. The best thing about this entire thing, in the clip, the clip of the kid that claims that they stole the documents. I don't know if you picked up on this. He's wearing chrome heart prescription glasses. I actually was looking at those. They're $2800.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So while he's talking about how there's no fraud going on, this random kid is wearing like the sickest, craziest pair of glasses I've ever seen. And it's just like I've seen a lot of people and the worst network in the world, cnn, throw shade at you. So what's their argument about? That you didn't get all the information or what are they trying to say? Because they're almost defending, like the libs are defending. The learning centers are saying that you're doing something wrong.

[E]

Yeah, they're defending fraud. And if you watch any of their videos, they'll come out. The first thing they say is Maga YouTuber, right wing journalist, conservative journalist. They just can't accept the fact that fraud was happening and they didn't get the story. And so they're trying everything to do to debunk me. And meanwhile they can't debunk me. Tim Waltz just dropped out from reelection because he knows the fraud so extensive in his state and he himself has been said he's been fighting fraud since 2019.

[C]

That's insane. Who do you, who do you think, with all your research, who do you think is the main person to hold accountable for this happening?

[E]

I think the people inside the capitol there. And then obviously Tim Waltz has said the buck stopped with me. I mean, he's enabled the fraud to keep happening. Like, how long would it take for you guys to notice someone from your. One of your employees is stealing a million million dollars?

[C]

Well, this. He would know the moment it happened.

[D]

Why did it take you as like a regular person expose this instead of Tim Waltz, you think?

[E]

Yeah, so I think it's been getting covered since like 2017, 2015. People have been talking about the fraud, but I think with how media is going now, people really can't engage or interact with some 50 year old man. And then they're. There's the same voiceover every single time at a local news station. And so when you see somebody who's my age, 23 years old, teaming up with a local who's been doing his own investigation, it kind of like just hits and it relates more to people because they're able to see it with their own eyes. That was happening versus just we're out here today at Quality Learning center and there's fraud happening. But like I was going and interviewing the people showing that the fraud was like so obvious that these people can even give you a brochure to enroll a child.

[B]

What's your reaction to Tim Walls dropping out? That's like, that's insane that you actually had something to do with that.

[E]

Yeah, I took out Tim Waltz. Like his political career as of right now is over.

[B]

That is absurd. When I saw him like officially drop out, I was like, that is badass.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, a lot of people tried and I guess I did it.

[C]

I don't want to say if you're scared, but is there some part of.

[B]

You that's like, it's okay not to.

[F]

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[E]

Experian.

[C]

Not regretful, but like, wow, I didn't expect it to get this scary and because now that when politicians that high up get involved probably makes you a little nervous or just feel a type of way.

[E]

It is scary in the sense that like they came after me, they tried to debunk me but they couldn't. And so then they came after my family. They docked my, they doxed my house. Right now I have security with my mom all at 247 and I've after roll a security and it's not what I wanted.

[B]

Oh my God, that's sad, bro.

[E]

And it's just, and it's just because you expose fraud, like isn't that something everyone should be celebrating on the ladder?

[C]

Is there anyone coming to support you that's like trying to offer you more security or wants you to keep going and continue exposing these people?

[E]

Yeah, a lot of people have reached out. For instance named Officer Tatum, he actually started like he has a security company, he has like a non profit cyberpunk donate. And so I have received donations that go like that I can only use for security. So I have to use it. And so that's been great because security is not cheap, right? Thousands of dollars a day.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I don't make that much money as a YouTuber.

[C]

Yeah. There's probably a lot of people that are scrambling because they know that you're going to continue doing these, right?

[E]

Yeah, I have to like now everyone's telling me like it's almost like a mandate from the people that go expose more of this fraud. What other states, obviously California is really.

[B]

Bad with in the same sense of daycares or other stuff.

[E]

They've been trying to build this train for years and they haven't even laid a track from like LA to San Francisco or to LA to Las Vegas. They haven't even laid a track.

[B]

Companies have received funding or billions of dollars. When did that start?

[E]

Newsom's been talking about it forever. Like Newsom, like they say the fraud's bad in Minnesota. Just wait till fraud starts getting exposed in California. New York. Like one of the things Mandami ran on was giving more affordable childcare to people. And what do we know about the daycare centers now? It's a great place to launder money.

[C]

Any part of you hesitant to go to do this in California? New York? Yeah.

[E]

Well that's why I had to bring four security people with me when I went back to Minnesota. And I'm probably obviously like target enemy number one for these people right now. So if they see me at these Daycare centers or they see me at any of these other places.

[B]

Okay, there's your photos up in every fraud daycare center in the country. Oh yeah, you just ended the best business for them ever. Like, they've been living the life, bro. You probably like one or two kids in there a week, but they're buying chrome hearts glasses. And then you pull up looking for.

[E]

Little Joey, look up for little Joey. Their whole up really did even they wouldn't even give Joey the option for autism. Like the autism centers like they were back in. I think that around 2017 or 2015 they're receiving like a million dollars for autism Medicaid, while in 2024 they received $200 million for Autism Medicaid. I don't know how many people are just starting to have inbreds and have autism, but it's a lot.

[C]

What was the number that you came up with off your research for the total amount raised in Minnesota?

[E]

So within one day we estimated $110 million.

[D]

What in the fuck?

[C]

And what about like the total?

[E]

The guy in my video, David, he estimates it's around anywhere from 80 to 100 billion. The government right now is saying anywhere, anywhere, upwards of 9 billion. And the crazy thing is that this money, so they receive it and it's called CCAP funding, and it's federal and state money. And so these people receive the money, it's tax exempt. And then there's the rumors of it going back into the hands of Al Shabaab, the terrorist organization in Somalia. And so they then get that money, they take it through the airport. There's a video from 2017 of Fox News covering millions of dollars getting going through tsa, millions of dollars in cash. And so what they do is they then go to Atlanta and then they go to Dubai, and then from Dubai, they can then send that money tax free without getting traced in Dubai to Somalia or anywhere they'd like.

[C]

Dude, my initial thought is that you would think that and this is why it gets scary. I know you're already freaked out, so this is going to freak you out. But this being Minnesota, being Tim Waltz's state and it being liberal there, you would think that some of the other creators or just political people on the right would also be trying to do this, trying to expose it at the level you are. And it doesn't seem like, you know, you're just a 23 year old youtuber. Why do you think other people that are actually in political positions aren't trying to do the same thing?

[E]

Yeah, what you're seeing is like actual change being created from journalism. And it's not because I sat behind a desk and talked about it. It's because I actually went and showed people what was happening. And so a lot of the people in the conservative sphere of things, and even on the left, they just kind of sit behind a desk and they don't really actually go out and show what's happening. One, because it's a lot harder and two, it's also a lot riskier. And so that's why you saw within hours of me releasing that video, the feds launched investigations. Within just a few days, they froze over 170, $185 million of child care funding. And now they just released that they're, I think they're freezing all like child care funding across all 50 states, especially in the Democrat states. I know that. And so what I did, I could have just saved America billions of dollars. And none of these companies since they've been given the opportunity to prove they're legit before they receive their funding, so far, not a single company has sent in any proof of legitimacy to receive their funding.

[B]

It's crazy to think that Walls would have potentially been the vice president.

[C]

Right?

[E]

Yeah. That's like the funniest thing to read on X. They're like, it took a 23 year old YouTuber to take down somebody who was this close becoming the vice president.

[C]

Well, I think a lot of American taxpayers are probably pretty happy and supporting you. And nowadays it feels like every, everyone's looking for that person to be the forefront of what they believe in. Like you have just creators online on X especially who everyone's buying into their stuff. Have you kind of been that guy? Because I've seen a lot of people, I think you said this on pbd, you don't have any vices. You're sober, you're a virgin. What's the other thing?

[E]

Religious.

[C]

Yeah. But you seem like the perfect personality for people to buy into or to go after.

[E]

Yeah, I mean you're seeing them go after me, but yeah, I'm not the worst person to fall behind. I feel like I live my life in a pretty morally correct way. I, I try not to get too involved with anything. Like I said, I don't drink, don't smoke. I'm not out here having sex with random girls. I'm a virgin and go to church and I can still have fun living my lifestyle. Like we've, we've hung out before in Greenland. We've done stuff and doesn't hinder me from anything. If anything, it gives me, like, more opportunities because I'm always kind of, like, locked in in a way where I don't have, like, the crazy distractions. Like, yes, do I get distracted, but do I get a distraction where I'm not able to wake up in the morning and function at 100? No.

[C]

I just see a lot of things on, and the Internet's crazy, but people are like, this is going to be the next Charlie Kirk turning point. How do you feel when people kind of make those comparisons?

[E]

I think what they did was different, and I. I'm my own person in a way. So, like, I think people like Charlie and, like, they kind of curved the path for what was happening. And I'm not trying to be Charlie by any means. I'm just trying to be Nick Shirley and just kind of do what kind of comes. Because it's kind of hard to, like, say, like, where you'll be in five years or exactly where you want to be, but I'm just kind of going with where things are taking me right now.

[C]

Yeah. What about Trump? Has you have any communication with the president?

[E]

No, I haven't heard anything from Trump. Don Jr. I went on his show, but Trump's been talking about it.

[B]

But Carolyn Levitt shouted you out.

[E]

I saw. Yeah, Caroline Levitt. She shouted me out. She's really cool. And so the government's obviously, obviously super happy with it because, I mean, a lot of times they're looking just like with Doge. Elon was doing it for so long and they came after him, but they couldn't really, like, show people with their eyes what was happening. They were kind of more so showing the contracts. And so people are excited to see, like, somebody doing, in an unconventional way to expose government corruption.

[C]

Dude, I. You seem like you haven't slept in a while.

[E]

Yeah, this past week. Every day I try to sleep for a few hours, and it doesn't really happen.

[C]

Anxiety or.

[E]

Like, every day there's something going on. Like, this past week, every time I'd get on X or something, someone's trying to debunk me and I'm, like, getting back on there. I'm just, like, throwing punches at him on X, getting. Fighting it back. And when you have, like, the momentum, you kind of have to keep going. So like, yesterday I was in Nashville. The day before that I was in Florida. Today I'm be here. Tomorrow I'll be somewhere else. And so it's kind of like when you get this responsibility, you kind of have to go With.

[B]

Yeah, we're doxing your mom's address.

[E]

Well, they did. Yes.

[C]

For what reason? That's. Yeah. And who do you think is doing that?

[E]

Crazy extremist. And they ended up. We got that. We got taken down. But yeah, these people come after you and just for exposing fraud. And they'll call you a racist Islamophobe. They'll call you anything just to try to get people to. I mean, Tim Waltz called me, far right, a white supremacist, delusional conspiracy theorist. And it's just like they're trying to set you up for something so that somebody can then go in and justify whatever they try to do.

[C]

You got to have some sort. You got to be proud of yourself. I mean, it's crazy that you're a 23 year old YouTuber. Is removing. What. Did he step down? Right.

[E]

Yeah. He's not gonna run for reelection.

[C]

And you'd say you're. That's probably from your influence.

[B]

100.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

100.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What's your reaction? You're not. Are you shocked by that? Are you?

[B]

Like. And what's up with Tim Walls? Like what? Like there's something with him, right? Like he looks like googly eyed or something.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know. When he. When they were. When he was running with Kamala, it just like seemed a little off to me.

[E]

He's definitely a little off in the. I was happy when I saw it, and so was the rest of the Internet because, I mean, this guy has sold out his state to Somalia. Look at the state flag. It's no longer the flag of Minnesota. It's quite literally been transformed to be more like the flag of Somalia. So he's actually not serving the people of Minnesota. He's serving a small majority group because he knows he can go and get votes inside of Minnesota. One voter can then vouch for eight people on the day of voting. So that means, like, if we're all sitting here, Steiny, you're a legal citizen, and we got all these other people in this room. You can go and vouch on behalf of eight other people and take their ballots to the voting booth.

[C]

What?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That people are not citizens.

[E]

You can't really justify whether they are or not.

[B]

Wait, explain that again. That's crazy.

[E]

So say Steinie is a legal citizen, resident of Minnesota. They're about to go vote for their new governor, and on that day, he's inside his apartment complex, there's eight other people, and they all say they'll go vote for Tim Waltz. Well, Steinies can then go to the voting booth and vouch on behalf of eight people. And whether he can prove their citizens or not, those votes get counted. And so that's been exposed as well with this.

[C]

Do you know that? What's the Somalian population in Minnesota?

[E]

Some people say eighty, other people say a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand. There's a lot.

[B]

I wonder why they chose Minnesota.

[C]

I think it was so cold.

[E]

So cold.

[C]

Yeah. I've never been there. Yeah.

[E]

And I think it's cold.

[B]

I went there for the super bowl once. It's cold. And I'm from Toronto.

[C]

Really?

[B]

It's nip.

[C]

I don't know. Maybe that's why they went there, because it'd be under the radar.

[E]

True. Kind of under the radar. Minnesota is known for being super nice people, accepting. And at the end of the day, I don't think those people were meant to be there forever. And now they all have their kids there and they're there.

[B]

You've gone to a lot of crazy countries though, too, right? You went to El Salvador for the jail. Would you ever pull up to Somalia for a video or no?

[E]

I don't know about that. Slim, you coming with me?

[B]

I'm Ethiopia.

[D]

I mean, I could have her back. I'll be the open, but.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't advise you to go there after.

[E]

No.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't think I'm planning on going to Somalia anytime soon. Would be a crazy video.

[B]

That would be crazy.

[E]

No, no. Full send. Go to Somalia.

[F]

We're doing.

[B]

I'd be down if there was a way. Maybe not, honestly, but I don't think.

[C]

They'D let you in.

[E]

No, they probably wouldn't. The crazy thing about the fraud is that allegedly $9 billion, their GDP of Somalia is 12 billion, so we've pretty much replaced that whole entire country.

[C]

That's insane.

[F]

Wow.

[B]

And has Ilhan Omar said anything about this or. No, she has not defended it or anything.

[E]

She has not said a word. Her Last post was December 24th. I posted the video on December 26th. She has not said a word.

[B]

And she's Somalian, right?

[E]

She's Somalian. She was born in Somalia.

[B]

Oh, she was. But she became a U.S. citizen?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

What's up with her? Who, like Trump said she married her cousin or something?

[E]

Yes, she married her brother to let him get citizenship. And there's legal proof of that.

[C]

Really? I find it interesting a lot of these podcasters, political podcasters, a lot of them have not really talked about the situation. I don't know if you've noticed that, but a lot of people that cover it.

[B]

Right wing or left wing?

[C]

Both. Right.

[B]

Every right wing podcast has talked about it now.

[E]

Yeah, I think so. For the most part. The left, though, like, there's left is so stupid because in one week they had to defend fraud and then the next day they had to defend a dictator. Like what they're standing for at this point in time, it's almost impossible to get behind. They're standing for fraud and they're backing like a dictator.

[C]

That just shows.

[B]

That whole situation was interesting, too.

[C]

Yeah, bro, I thought. I personally, it's like, it is pretty funny. And especially the fact that, like the photo of him in the Nike tech.

[E]

Epic.

[B]

He looked pretty sauce.

[C]

Yeah, he went out with swag speed shades in the. In the Nike tech. And then you look at the people in Venezuela celebrating. Everyone is ecstatic that this guy's finally gone. And then you look at the protests going on in New York and it's not. There's no Venezuelans there. It's like, any reason people have to go against Trump, they're there to smart.

[B]

I don't know if you tweeted this out, but it was the same people that are protesting this are the same people that were. That were at the no Kings protest too.

[E]

Yeah, there's.

[B]

That's just crazy.

[C]

It's. I just don't understand.

[E]

Like, there's a group here inside America right now. Whether Trump drops a murder rate or Trump stops Fentanyl or Trump gets rid of fraud, they're going to say he's in the wrong just because they simply do not support Trump. And by then doing that, they also don't support the best interest of America, which is crazy. Like, it's just some super simple common sense stuff. And so like in my videos, I just try to present stuff as they really are and with common sense. That's why my video hit so hard, because I wasn't taking a political side. I was just showing what was happening.

[C]

That's what, you know, you should do. You should go to Venezuela.

[B]

You do do a good job of that. Not because some people will, like, right wing people will do it and, you know, they'll get a lot of support from the right, but you could tell they have a bit of an agenda. I think with yours, you're doing a good job of like, staying a little neutral in the videos, which I think is. Is good and important.

[C]

This is where it's like, now people might look to people like you, like going to Venezuela and talking to people in the streets and I'd love to go to Venezuela.

[B]

To go.

[E]

Yeah, let's go.

[B]

I'm down to pull up.

[E]

I want to go so bad.

[A]

Action Somalia.

[B]

Fuck that. But Venezuela would be lit.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Was there. Was there a specific moment you realize you. This is what you want to be doing?

[E]

Well, I've been doing YouTube since I was 15. I kind of knew that's like always what I wanted to do.

[D]

Always been in politics.

[E]

Like, I don't know if you guys remember, but. Or you guys remember when back in like 2020, I was still like 18 years old, but I remember I started to kind of get more into politics. But you couldn't put Trump's name in a thumbnail or in a title without it getting demonetized. Then I was able to finally make political content. And it just kind of. Because of X, like, if Elon didn't buy X, people like to bash on Elon, but if Elon didn't buy X, it'd be very unlikely that Trump was elected. We wouldn't have free speech and you'd see just more and more corruption.

[B]

I agree. I think that's the one thing that came out of.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Elon. And also this election, you could say whatever you want about the Trump administration too, but, like the free speech one, I know firsthand, it's way different than when he was not in office.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's completely different because it leveled.

[E]

Out the playing field. Because if all these other companies want to be able to get the amount of views they have to unlock their censorship and play on the same playing field.

[B]

Elon kind of like, with his chess move, he forced all those other platforms. YouTube, Instagram, a lot Instagram. And Meta is way Instagram.

[E]

You can, like see dead people on your.

[B]

You could post whatever the fuck on Instagram. We used to post on Instagram. We used to get taken down all the time.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I can't remember the last time, like, a post has gotten taken down off Instagram. During COVID everything was getting taken down.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So you're right. Elon did. I mean, yeah. What he did for free speech was insane.

[E]

Yeah. And people like to attack Elon. I'm like, dude, he's been the biggest net positive for society in so many ways. It's crazy.

[C]

Yeah. You can see literally anything on X. It is. I go down some rabbit holes that I wish I didn't go down. Yeah.

[E]

What kind of rabbit holes you getting into?

[C]

Fight comps. I've. I've seen some crazy. I don't want to.

[B]

Gay porn.

[C]

No. That's not on my algorithm, I promise you. That is not on my.

[E]

Anything else, Tiny.

[C]

You could just see deaths on there. Like, I'm scrolling the other day, and this guy walks behind a helicopter blade and his head gets chopped off. And then it's one of those things where I saw it. So I had to send it to, like, five people because I wanted them to go through what I just had to go through. You know what I mean? So do you map out now? Do you map out which state you're gonna go after next? Or how do you. How does that process work?

[E]

Yeah. So now everyone's like, been telling me, you got to go to California, you got to go to Ohio. And so now. Now, since I have, like, everyone's eyes watching me, especially on what's going to happen next, I have to make sure I have all the proof and the receipts when I go. And. Because that's the problem now. So you're seeing, like, all these other people go up to these daycares. I'm like, well, I did my due diligence before I went. Like, you just don't go up to a daycare.

[B]

They're just going to get kids and trolling, right?

[E]

Yeah, they. Yeah, like, a lot of copycats will kind of do that. And, like, there's some people who I know who will take whatever I do because I've been doing this for a while. So they'll take whatever I do. And then, like, two weeks later, they'll get onto that topic and then I'll move to the next one. They get on to that same topic and, like, it's. It's fine. Whatever.

[B]

It's gonna happen.

[C]

Right. They're actually gonna do more harm without the numbers and the facts.

[E]

Exactly.

[C]

Positive. Which is going to probably be an issue.

[E]

Exactly. So, I mean, like, people. People can do what they want. I'm not telling anyone not to, but, like, if you're going to do it, make sure you do your due diligence.

[C]

So you think California's next?

[E]

Yeah, I think there's like. So you could spend, like, a whole year inside California exposing fraud. $24 billion went missing to homeless. The. The. That train that they try to build, that they've been trying to build forever. I mean, the NGOs there, like, it's crazy.

[C]

That is one of the biggest questions. And I always wonder this. You have California. I think it's a. I think it is the highest state income tax maybe in the country. It's in New York. And then you have Florida. No state Income tax. Florida has way less problems than California. So you're. Everyone's wondering, yo, where are my tax dollars going? I think that's the biggest question. I think about it all the time, you know, and the streets are getting worse and worse. San Francisco's gone to complete shit.

[B]

Is L. A scary too? Like, even if you live in a house. San Diego, you live in a house in L. A? Yeah, the.

[D]

Up in the hills.

[B]

And like, you say, home invasions are fucking crazy. I know another influencer. I won't say his name too, but he's really big. And he got. His house got broken into in L. A too. And, like, it's.

[E]

It's scary, right?

[C]

It is scary. So I think a lot of people want to see you go to California. What do you think? Besides the train is the biggest fraud happening there?

[E]

I just think the homelessness, like, $24 billion. And Elon said on Joe Rogan, like, these. These organizations are incentivized to keep the homelessness going, because as soon as they solve the problem, there goes all their clientele.

[B]

Oh, my God. Like, homeless shelters and stuff.

[E]

Homeless shelters. I mean, they literally give you all the paraphernalia you need to do the drugs on the streets of San Francisco and la. Like, they do not. And then on top of that, they'll give you the Narcan to revive yourself. So they'll provide you with anything but the hard drug. But then they'll give you the tools to kill yourself and then the tool to bring you back to life.

[B]

That's, like, Canada, too. They do that in Vancouver.

[E]

Oh, Vancouver's the worst.

[C]

That.

[B]

What's the street called? Hastings or something?

[E]

Yeah, East Hastings Street.

[B]

It's a dump.

[C]

Very bad. It's pretty bad. We went. When we went to Morgan Juan in San Diego, you see the guys that are in, like, the fentanyl positions where they're, like, literally bent over and they can't move. You know what I'm talking about?

[E]

Yeah, the fetty fold.

[C]

The fetty fold is so popular in San Diego.

[B]

What's the fetty fold?

[E]

Have you never seen anybody on the fetish?

[C]

It's like, we saw it. They're like. It's like their bodies are, like, stuck.

[E]

Oh, it's like a zombie.

[D]

One half of their body's like. Like limped or something.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. You shouldn't be able to be that flexible, but the fan.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Gives it to you.

[D]

Yeah, they just totally.

[E]

They're totally just like, in a zombified state and they can't move. And Then you like, what's interesting is you'll go and tap them on the shoulder and they'll sprawl right back up and they'll just act like you're having a normal conversation with them. Like when we were younger, the homeless people, it was like, you see them, you give them $10, make sure they get food. Now it's like the homeless people aren't really even begging for money. They're just going around doing whatever they can to get the next hit.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Have left wing programs offered to have you on like big news stations like CNN and stuff or.

[E]

No, no. I mean, they did a hit piece on me and these people, they call me far right, they call me a fascist, they call me Nazi, they call me mag influencer just because I'm showing people the truth. And it's like these, they don't really have any credit. Like I don't really have credit for people who call me a Nazi.

[C]

I saw the post, I commented on the post on cnn, had your back.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

But a lot of people, athletes and a lot of powerful people were commenting to your aid. So it was pretty cool to see. But I saw that. Did she just catch you on the street? I don't know her name.

[E]

Yeah, I don't know her name either. Well, she was at the learning center. And so as I went back and yeah, she tried to act like as if I was, did something wrong and I, I stood on business with my interview, interview with her and she's like, Are you 100 certain? I'm like, yes, I'm sure. And, and then she, the next clip is them talking. We called seven of the daycares in Nick's video and one of them answered and said they're a legitimate business. They're. It's like, okay, great investigative reporting, cnn.

[C]

None of these, none of these learning centers showed any sort of documentation.

[E]

Well, they have the documentation of them receiving the money.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And they have it on their state website. In fact, after I posted the video, the licensing website for the state shut down.

[C]

Dude, this is scary stuff.

[E]

Yeah, it's wild.

[D]

There's a lot of fraud going on.

[C]

Where, where, if you had a guess, where do you think? Let's just take the example of the homelessness in California. Where do you think the unaccounted 24 billion is?

[E]

I mean, Gavin Newsom bought a 9 million dollar mansion in San Francisco. Not saying all that money went to him, but they give these money to these organizations. A mayor in California, he has a.

[B]

90 mil mansion, a 9 million 9 million?

[E]

Yeah. In the Bay Area?

[C]

Yeah, it's fat.

[E]

How does a governor make that much money unless he comes from money? But still, that's a lot of money. A mayor in California told me that a lot of these people will tell their family members or tell their friends to go start these NGOs, these nonprofits, and then from there they can receive a grant or they can receive funding from the government. And then when it comes time for a campaign, all that money's already been given to them. They can just funnel it back into the hands of the campaign. Like a lot of the daycare centers in Minnesota, they had been caught for giving money to political campaigns as well. Like that Omar guy who was running for mayor of Minneapolis, his in law, one of his family members owned one of the daycare centers I went to.

[C]

Oh, really?

[E]

Yeah. And I think he was even operating his campaign out of the daycare.

[C]

What's your biggest takeaway or your biggest learning moment from all of this?

[E]

There's a lot of corruption happening in the United States and people like us and just average American are working so hard to pay taxes. Like all of us work three to four months just to make a dollar actually here in the United States. And when you see corruption happening, like it's estimated that 3 to 7% of all taxes go towards fraud, like, what are we paying our taxes for? And so I was super happy to see them freeze the funding for these daycare facilities because then it had gave the daycares an opportunity to show that they're legitimate, legitimate businesses. And that's kind of what they should do. They should freeze all funding for all these welfare programs and just do like a one week reset and say, all right, we're going to give everybody the opportunity to prove they're legit. If you can't prove you're legit in a week or, sorry, you're going to have to learn how to run a profitable business.

[B]

Has there been any action from, like anybody on stopping this now after your findings?

[E]

They just sent over 2,000 more investigators to Minnesota. They launched more investigations and like I said, they just froze all the funding to the.

[B]

That's crazy that you had to be the one to do.

[E]

That's the one.

[C]

I'm saying they don't. They don't need 2,000 investigators. They need you.

[E]

I know. They need like a thousand of me.

[C]

Yeah, that's it. What, who sent them?

[E]

The government, hsi, Homeland Security, and then the FBI as well. I think the doj.

[C]

Do they come to you to get.

[E]

Information I think just for my video alone, it kind of proved enough, and they were already doing some of their own investigations, but now it's like, all right, you guys have the opportunity to really show America, like, you're going to do what you're going to say you're going to do. Like, you better show up and you better start. People want to see arrest happen. Like, can you imagine if Tim Waltz gets arrested and gets put to jail for the fraud?

[B]

Do you think he knew what was going on?

[E]

Yes, he openly. Wow.

[B]

Really? Or is he just stupid enough to just not even know?

[E]

Just woke up.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

You like.

[D]

You think this. Like, he's seeing this going on, just letting it happen, like, this whole time?

[E]

Yes.

[D]

That's fine.

[E]

Since 2019, he said he had all.

[C]

The Somalian support, right?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Do you think he could be dumb enough to not even know, though?

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Too.

[B]

You know. Well, he seems like an easy guy to get. Like, get one by.

[D]

It looks like a clown.

[C]

How the. Does a learning center. Just playing devil's advocate exists? It existed for eight years with incorrect spelling of learning. Right.

[B]

How the.

[C]

Is that possible?

[E]

Yeah, that's exactly. It's.

[B]

He just doesn't seem like he knows what's going on, though, too.

[C]

You can't be in that position and see learning.

[B]

Like, I think you could be at his dinner table, like, having dinner with him, and, like, you'd be banging his daughter, and he wouldn't know.

[E]

Like, he's like, that type of guy.

[C]

Like, he just, like, you're gonna hit.

[E]

Him while he's down like that.

[B]

He's clueless. Like, he's just not. He's oblivious is what I'm saying. I don't know. That's just what it seems like.

[E]

Yeah. That's probably why he's, like, the perfect candidate.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I mean, since 2019, like, the.

[B]

Somalians are like, this guy's easy. Oh. Like, what state do we got to go to to pull this off? Oh, this? Yeah. We're going to Minnesota. It's cold.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Just playing devil's advocate. I don't know.

[E]

100. And you know what's interesting about Tim Waltz? Why do you think Kamala Harris chose Tim Waltz? Nobody knew about. Knew who he was before.

[B]

Why that is interesting.

[E]

The first day he's chosen, he raises the most amount of money than any other candidate in history. I think it's over $35 million he raised for the campaign within just a day of being selected to become the vice president. And now we know all this fraud's happening. How did Tim Waltz. He used to be a high school football coach. He's not even from Minnesota. He's from Nebraska. How is he able to raise the most amount of money?

[C]

That's great.

[B]

Do you think the Somalians were.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Funding it?

[E]

100. It had to be some sort of fraud.

[B]

I wonder what Walls was like as a football coach.

[C]

Do you know how much he raised?

[E]

I think it was around 35 million.

[B]

What do you think he was like as a football coach? You think he's a good coach or no?

[C]

No, I don't think so. He doesn't have that grit.

[D]

What do you think he coached? Like defensive coordinators on.

[E]

Special teams.

[C]

Special teams kick off. Yeah.

[E]

They have the starting quarterbacks from Somalia maybe. Yeah.

[C]

Five star recruits. Put them on receiver, man.

[E]

Imagine Tim Waltz. I mean he him, he probably seems like a nice, happy, go loving guy. He's shaking his hands everywhere. He's probably like a good hype coach. Get everyone feeling good. Get making sure everyone gets their playing time. They probably aren't winning too many games.

[C]

Do you find it interesting when their initial response did he call you a white supremacist or.

[E]

Yes, he called me a white supremacist. And then it was so funny because every time he'd post I would just go and ratio him right underneath it.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And. And then I then there's this lady who died who got assassinated and she was the only lady inside of the Democrat party who voted against giving money to illegal migrants. I'm not saying Tim Waltz killed her, but she was then assassinated. And she was then assassinated because she voted to stop funding for illegal.

[C]

After the voting.

[E]

I think within just a few days.

[C]

No way.

[B]

And what was the official reason for her death?

[E]

The guy was a Tim Waltz appointee who even said in a letter, I think that Tim Waltz that he worked for Tim Waltz. And I don't want to say stuff I don't 100% know on this because I haven't read all his. This guy's letters. But super fishy. And so Trump posted this video on true social saying like kind of like the conspiracy behind it or the, the logic or why people think that she got offed. And then I commented underneath it, I said why was she the only why. Why was it after she voted after illegal she was killed. Rest in police. Rest in peace. To Melissa Hortman. And so then Tim Waltz post about it and he actually replied to you, right? He replied to it. I double ratio him after that.

[C]

Did they say it was on the.

[E]

Reply and on the court of tweet.

[C]

Did they claim it was suicide or.

[E]

No, she got assassinated.

[B]

Damn. He had a bad social media advisor.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And so he probably had some kids sitting beside him like yo, you gotta reply to Shirley and shit.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You just cooked his ass.

[E]

Cooked him. And then when he, when he dropped his AT bid, it was so funny too. I told him Quality Learning center is hiring.

[C]

Oh my God.

[E]

And it got like a hundred thousand likes and his like wow, the announcement got like 30,000.

[B]

Did you see any tampons in the bathrooms there? No. In the men's bathrooms at the airports? No.

[E]

Have you ever been to the Seattle airport? No.

[B]

You can search tampons in the men's bathroom.

[E]

You can click the button and you'll.

[B]

Get a tampon in the men's bathroom?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

That's crazy.

[E]

Like everyone knows Tim's a tampon lover.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

He'll give everybody a tampon if they want it.

[C]

Have any other left politicians come at you on X or anything?

[E]

Oh, they all did. Like, they all started like Hassan Piker. He's of course. Yeah. He was angry. I'm like, that guy's a loser. Straight up. I'm like haha, you would support fraud. Like you're so dumb.

[B]

What's next do you think?

[E]

Obviously there's a lot more fraud in California. I do want to go to Venezuela.

[C]

I think you have to and you got to go talk.

[B]

Do you have an in there? It's probably. What do you think it's like there right now?

[E]

Probably pretty liberated they feel.

[B]

I mean there was like parades and stuff, right?

[E]

Parades. People are happy. Took down the statues. I speak Spanish fluently, so I think I should go, but I don't know how dangerous it'd be. Now Trump's talking about taking over Colombia and so I might make it things a little interesting.

[B]

If you have an in, I'm down to roll with you.

[E]

We could, we could run it.

[B]

I'd run Venezuela. I mean we got to make sure we're. There's a way to go to every country, you know?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You just got to make sure you're good.

[E]

You make a few phone calls, maybe see what we can do.

[B]

Make phone calls.

[E]

And the people in Venezuela, they're very nice people. Stein, there's some good looking woman out there.

[B]

100.

[C]

Yeah. I'm down.

[B]

South America has the most.

[E]

If I haven't seen a white gringo in a long time too, you're probably.

[C]

I'm in for that video for sure.

[E]

What do you guys got planned?

[B]

I've Been training for this 100 mile stream, so we're doing that. January 21st, you guys were in Hawaii. Yeah, we're in Hawaii doing a marathon. So, yeah, we're probably gonna do a lot of international shit this year, too.

[E]

Hey, you guys gotta get back to them at least the monthly uploads.

[B]

Yeah, we've been on every month, but.

[E]

Some months you guys are missing, though.

[B]

I know, I know, I know. We gotta get back to it. You're right.

[C]

You want to expose fraud, but do you have a certain goal or something? Like a ultimate video that you want to complete now?

[E]

Yeah, there's a lot of videos I want to do. And now it's getting kind of more dangerous to kind of be out there. It's like, also, who do I want to interview? So I'd really like to interview naive Kele. I think Trump would obviously be awesome. Elon, he'd be awesome to interview. There's just a lot of cool people all across the world like that are doing a lot of cool things that I'd like to interview people about.

[C]

I wonder if Newsom would be willing to talk to you or link with you.

[E]

Even if he did, he would tell you straight up lies. Just like he told Charlie Kirk about, for instance, the trans stuff he said him. He said something and then he does the complete opposite. Like, Newsom's like, he's a really good. That's why he's so. It's so dangerous.

[B]

Yeah, he's good. He's a good bullshitter.

[E]

Oh, and he's such a. Like, you just can't trust anything he says.

[B]

Yeah, it sounds good for a sec. And then it's like.

[E]

Yeah. And if you look at the Democrats, it's very interesting. So if you look at like, for instance, when they go on a podcast, you'll notice that there really aren't that many people that click on the video. And then if you see somebody like Trump or if you see somebody else going to podcast, a lot of people click on that video. And so, like a lot of this hype that you see on the Internet of these Democrats or what people say, it's actually not true, just off the numbers of the views they get because they don't have much of a base around them right now.

[C]

And this is a problem. I think they're. The country just has in general. I actually texted someone who I used to be good friends with, who doesn't talk to me anymore because of my political beliefs. But I asked him about you just to see, like, if you've Persuade people, maybe from the left and maybe open some people's eyes. And it's just become such a thing that there's so much pride. And he started to throw shade. And I was like, how can you not show some support for this kid who's trying to do the good for the country? But people. That's what I'm trying to ask you is, has anybody from the other side come to you and been like, hey, thank you for exposing this? Or, wow, this is a reason to maybe change my beliefs. You think it would be.

[E]

No. They've all doubled down and they. They're literally supporting fraud. Like, how stupid you have to be to support fraud. Like, it makes no sense.

[C]

That's what you would think as a taxpayer, seeing your money go to something like this, you'd be able to put away political and just be like, wait, there is a serious problem out there with your intention, what you're doing.

[B]

The fact that they don't even believe it's happening still, they're, like, denying people told you.

[C]

Have people had that excuse that this isn't even true?

[E]

Have you seen Tick Tock? Or have you seen, like, all the mainstream media? Like, literally the whole entire Internet was people trying to debunk me. And I'm like, you can't debunk me. Your governor just dropped out of reelection because he knows it's true.

[C]

How can more people see that happen and not start to think there's something going on here?

[E]

Like tds? People talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's very, very real.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, Trump could do the most amazing thing. He could, like, the murder rates down exponentially this year. People aren't happy that he's playing National Guard with Washington.

[B]

Yeah, Washington and stuff. It's like, it's common sense.

[E]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, there's entire neighborhoods inside Chicago where it's almost very similar to favela in Brazil where you have little militias roaming and controlling the place. You guys should go to Brazil.

[B]

We've been.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the craziest place I ever do a video there.

[E]

Oh, I almost. I almost died in the top of the favela. That was a. That was the craziest thing I've ever seen or done.

[C]

Well, you pissed off the wrong person or.

[E]

Well, I interviewed a soldier. He got. He went without permission from the boss, and I interviewed the soldier. He took me up to the top of the favela. He said he's like, he was so dangerous. They kept him up in the top because he couldn't go down. And he takes me to the top of this abandoned house. I get down there, he has his gun, he has his other soldier with him. And I interview him. And then after they're like, all right. The translator was like, all right, they want this much. I'm like, whatever they say, like, let's get out of here.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And then after that video, that soldier then gets beat up by the boss of the favela. Kicked out of the favela. The two translators almost nearly die because we pissed off the favela. The favela gang. And I pissed off like the biggest favela in Brazil and the biggest gang, like Hosinha, which is the largest favela in all of Brazil. And I somehow got to the top of the favela with one of the soldiers and interviewed him.

[D]

And.

[E]

I thought that that was the closest ever came to death, probably.

[B]

What did you do to piss him off?

[E]

Well, then I posted my YouTube video and I just kind of showed what life was like in the favela and other youtubers had done it, so I thought it'd be totally chill. And that's like they. I kind of showed how what's happening inside the favela. And it's literally just like the movies, like 15 year olds roaming around with guns. Like, I went to the favela party at like 12 at night for that one.

[B]

Damn.

[E]

And all these like armed soldiers. Looks like a bunch of Saleems just walking around. It looks like a bunch of those. Well, he looks like kind of like a little bit Brazilian.

[D]

I dyed my hair. I think everyone would think I'm Brazil.

[B]

Oh, like blonde.

[D]

Like blonde.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

But I do have the same skin tone as a lot of Brazilian.

[E]

Yeah. And so they all have these huge guns. They got these like these Latina girls going around dancing, twerking up on them.

[C]

I like, I love.

[B]

Any games there? No, there are.

[E]

Oh, Gabe's Brazilian too, huh? Yeah, there's some Gabes in there and. But like there's just drugs. Like the table. There's like a table just like this in the middle of the favela party with like speakers up to the ceiling. And they're just like every drug you can imagine. There's just like a 15 year old dealing it. Wow. It was. It was insane.

[C]

You seem pretty fearless, bro.

[E]

I would say so. I don't get like too nervous about things now. It's kind of more nerve wracking because more people know my face, but I don't feel like I'm doing anything Wrong.

[C]

I think a lot of people would agree what you're doing is great. Politics are a scary thing, dude.

[E]

I kind of understood why so many, like, why Trump and Elon Musk are always out there defending themselves, because you just can't let people slander your name like they try to do with me. And so you're just, like, standing up. Like, you wake up in the morning, you're like, all right, who's. Who are we going to war with today? And you just have to respond back and debunk them all, because you just can't let people spread lies.

[C]

Have you thought about doing any of, like, the going to. Talking to, like, the youth or, like, college campuses and trying to educate the next generation or anything like that?

[E]

I'm not really a debater. Like, I can talk with people. But the thing is, now with debates, a lot of people won't even hear you out. I mean, I just expose fraud in a way where people could see it with their own eyes and it somehow became debatable. So a lot of these people won't even rationalize with you.

[B]

Yeah. They're just going to believe what they want to believe no matter what.

[C]

You just kind of seem like the picture perfect with what you said about religion being sober, that a lot of people would want to buy into what you're talking about. And you could have a lot of influence with what you believe in.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, I could go do them. Like, I'm not against doing them, but I think, like, what I'm doing right now is probably a little bit more important where people can really. It could really change people's minds versus, like, a debate.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. Do you feel like you've taken on a lot more responsibility now?

[E]

Yeah. Like, this week alone, I gained over a million followers on X. A million and a half on Instagram.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

And so, like, X is super hard to hit a million followers on. And I think now what does that.

[B]

Feel like, to, like, have been putting in work for so long to, like, kind of get this type of viral hit?

[E]

It feels good, but doesn't feel that strange because you kind of. You've been kind of living it for so long. If I had just posted my second video and that would have happened, I wouldn't know how to control it, if that makes sense.

[B]

No, I say that all the time, too. The people that blow up overnight, they don't know how to handle it, right?

[E]

No. And so, like, like I said, like, that's the most viral video by anybody Whose name. Whose name is not Mr. Beast in a documentary, expose style video ever on the Internet.

[C]

Yeah. Do you know what, what was the amount of views on X that it got?

[E]

The video alone got over 135 million.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

The one that you directly posted or.

[E]

Someone clipping it, that I directly posted. And on top of that there's probably another 500 million or even upwards of a billion.

[C]

That's insane.

[B]

How long was the video on X?

[E]

42 minutes.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Dude, what are your. You're 23 years old. What do your parents feel about all this?

[E]

My mom, she films. My mom filmed that video. Like my mom comes with me on a lot of my trips.

[B]

Really?

[E]

Yeah, that's. My mom's the best. Like, I'll bring her with me. She kind of like helps produce. And so my parents are stoked about everything. I have like other family members who aren't as stoked because now like my little sister, she starts getting calls from the news, trying to get information about me. I'm like, Kate, like, stay out of here. Don't be greenshot my sister. Yeah. And so I didn't ever want my. Like, I always kept my dad a secret. Like I never showed who he was or anything like that. And then you get the Hindu news from India saying who your dad is. Like, my dad's the best guy I know. I have nothing to hide.

[B]

Damn.

[E]

Like, it's crazy how like I kind of saw firsthand how there's like legit, a whole industry that will come and try to slander you. But like I said, because I kind of have a clean slate, they really can't get me for anything. Like what are they gonna get me for a prank I did in high school?

[C]

Well, you're from Utah too, right?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's Mormon out there.

[E]

Yeah. Like I'm a member of the church.

[C]

Seem like you had a pretty clean slate. You never been in trouble ever?

[E]

I got a misdemeanor once for doing a bike jump on fire into like. So I got a misdemeanor once for that. That's pretty funny. But other than that, I like did a plain obeyance. I got it written off within a year.

[C]

Congrats on all the success. I mean it's.

[B]

Yeah, it's good to see. We know you've been grinding for a while too, so it's much deserved. And yeah, the content's been awesome, bro.

[E]

I've enjoyed.

[B]

Watch.

[E]

Yeah, I don't know if you remember because back in 2020, I remember I. I lived in LA because I was doing YouTube. I met you guys and I was like, it's kind of full circle moment because I met, I met you and I was like, hey, like, let me come edit for you guys. These are all my YouTube videos and you're looking at my channel. I had like 20, 000 subscribers. You're like, no, dude, just keep doing what you're doing. Like, you don't need to really work for us. Like, you'll be better off on your own.

[B]

That's crazy. I don't remember that, but yeah, that's dope.

[E]

It's interesting.

[B]

Well, it worked out.

[E]

It worked out.

[C]

Didn't want to give out another paycheck or.

[B]

I mean, no. Like, I think some people, like, some people think too. Like, you don't always need someone to blow up yourself too, you know?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

No, so it's better if you blow.

[B]

Up not needing like a network or a nelk or a barstool, you know, I'm saying.

[E]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Because like me and other people like me, it's like you just have to, you have to keep just learning and learning. Like, you don't want it all. At 18 years old, even at 23, it's kind of nerve wracking to have all this following following and have all this attention because I still got like three more lifetimes to live.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And all of us do. And so who knows where we're going to be in 10 years from now. But until you kind of just have to have faith that whatever you keep moving or whatever opportunities come your way are, you can kind of navigate that.

[B]

100 has like Jubilee hit you up.

[E]

To do a video. Yeah, they did hit me up, but I didn't want, I didn't want to go debate with one of the kids who doesn't have any logic.

[C]

How many times have you done Fox News now?

[E]

I've done Fox quite a bit and they're the only news orientation that will hit me up, so of course I'll go on them.

[C]

And CNN only wanted to get you in that kind of got you moment. They didn't want to have you on.

[E]

Yes, she was actually live at that moment. When she did my interview, she went live like a minute after. And I was like, well, let me come on live. Let me talk live. Like we're right here. She wouldn't let me come on live. And so I knew when I did that interview, I'm like, yeah, they're just going to clip it up. But I actually ended up looking really good. And what they clipped up. Yeah, And I think Fox. I've said this before on another podcast, but I just think they're, like, the most professional. They'll send you a van. They'll do whatever they're most accommodating. All these other ones are like a zoom call, and you hop on and they just top off. And Fox has the biggest reach as well.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's awesome. Well, congrats, bro. We'll be watching what's next.

[C]

And.

[B]

Yeah, you're crushing it, dude.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

Fix California for us if you can. Yeah.

[E]

Why are you living there?

[C]

I don't know, dude. It's really hard to come to Florida and then see how great it is here and then want to go back there. I got to be honest. And now. Now I know my. I don't know where my taxpayers, my tax dollars are going. I'm waiting for you to.

[B]

You're going to find out.

[E]

We'll find out for you. Steiny. Yeah.

[C]

I buy my shit from my paycheck, so.

[B]

Steiny loves Newsom, though.

[C]

I don't love Newsom. I don't like Newsom.

[E]

You're like him.

[C]

No, I mean, with what we just talked about, like, it's when I'm just playing.

[B]

When you.

[C]

When you do pay the amount of taxes, you're just like, dude, where is this shit going to?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

And there's never an answer. I've learned there's never an answer. And if they give you an answer, it goes to the homeless. Will do. Go to downtown L. A. And then tell me that that's the taxpayer dollars, which are. Who knows how. How high that amount is. They're not going there.

[E]

Yeah. It's the worst managed state in America, but hell yeah.

[B]

Well, we appreciate you, bro.

[E]

Thank you, Nick.

[C]

Dude, thank you so much. Congrats on everything. That was awesome.