Dragging the Girls with Monét X Change

Summary

Furious Thoughts: "Dragging the Girls with Monét X Change"

Podcast: Furious Thoughts
Host: Kid Fury (CAKE MEDIA)
Guest: Monét X Change
Date: March 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode of "Furious Thoughts," Kid Fury invites the iconic drag queen, comedian, and host Monét X Change for a candid, hilarious, and insightful conversation centered on queer pop culture, the evolution of drag, personal growth, Caribbean identity, fandom toxicity, and how both are navigating aging and platforms in today’s world. With signature wit and unfiltered honesty, Kid Fury and Monét discuss everything from bringing back shame and elementary recitals to Drag Race secrets, Caribbean food, and the complexities of fandom.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. Bringing Back Shame & Generational Observations

[00:00 – 08:30]

• Kid Fury launches with a passionate monologue about the lack of boundaries in today's culture, suggesting that society should "bring back shame" as a form of healthy self-evaluation.
  • "Some of y’all need shame, to be honest with you… Shame is just a natural fucking emotion. And it’s telling you to evaluate." — Kid Fury [00:26]
• Humorous rants about modern dating standards, performing elementary school recitals, shots as an “aging sport,” and children misbehaving in the 90s.
• Reflects on wrestling culture in schools and how wild it was (e.g., kids imitating WWE gestures), shouting out teachers from that era.

2. On Race, Language, and White Rappers

[08:31 – 11:55]

• Kid Fury laments the mass acceptance of white rappers and the shifting boundaries regarding slurs in music and society.
  • “If Eminem, like, popped today… and also said nigga, he would still be an incredibly successful touring artist.” — Kid Fury [09:32]
• Discusses generational changes, and how younger people are less “shaken” by certain language.

3. Generational Fatigue, AI, & Aging

[11:56 – 17:00]

• Monét briefly interjects ("Why?") leading to a riff on generational divides and AI.
• Kid Fury expresses exhaustion over generic AI hype, calling out its frivolous uses:
  • "If this AI is the future, bury me today. I’m plucked. I’m so tired of it." — Kid Fury [12:43]
• The confusion and anxieties of being “middle-aged,” stuck between youth and old age, and the Golden Girls as comfort.

4. Medicine Ads, Parenthood & Kids in Public

[17:00 – 22:15]

• Deconstructing the wild settings in American pharmaceutical ads, especially their racial stereotypes.
• Flying with children: Kid Fury calls it the “biggest birth control,” sharing a touching story about a little girl on a flight and at a birthday party, emphasizing the sweetness and innocence of kids—regardless of race.
  • “Protect these black babies. All of the babies. Protect them. My God.” — Kid Fury [19:54]

5. Caribbean Identity: The WhatsApp Stronghold and Family Tech

[22:15 – 26:36]

• Monét and Kid Fury discuss their Caribbean roots (Jamaica and St. Lucia), the complicated relationship with their home countries’ attitudes toward queerphobia, and recent progress.
  • “St. Lucia just decriminalized that [sodomy law] a month ago… There’s still ways to go. But progress is progress.” — Monét [23:53]
• WhatsApp’s dominance in Caribbean and African families, and old-school hacks like Magic Jack and fire sticks for staying connected and watching news from “home.”

6. Monét’s Rise as a Multi-Platform Host

[26:37 – 32:33]

• Kid Fury marvels at Monét’s seamless transition into hosting various shows, prompting Monét to share her journey overcoming a childhood stammer and embracing her voice.
  • “I never want to be held back or think I’m held back by my own speech. So now when I get the chance to talk, I just love to talk.” — Monét [27:50]
• Monét discusses her dream of hosting a talk/game/food show, explaining her strategic focus on stand-up as a bridge to more TV opportunities.
• Hilarious tangent about Food Network obsession and Judge Judy’s enviable filming schedule.

7. Drag Race Fandom: From Golden Age to Toxicity

[32:33 – 40:25]

• Kid Fury and Monét dive deep into the evolution (and consequences) of Drag Race’s viral success, especially the rise of an unfiltered, sometimes toxic online fandom.
  • “For whatever reason, I feel like when it’s gay shit or this type of gay shit, those spectators have no boundaries.” — Kid Fury [33:29]
• Monét reflects on her path into drag, initially rooted in personal exploration rather than fame, and how the massive spotlight brings overwhelming feedback.
  • “You teach your fans how to treat you… If you say something about me, I’m gonna tell you that your mother’s a bitch and your grandmother should have died.” — Monét [38:24]
• The resilience required to ignore negativity and the reality that online hate is only a small, noisy slice (“Twitter is not the world”).

8. Drag Race Behind the Scenes & Fan Suggestions

[40:25 – 45:50]

• Banter about “inside” Drag Race moments—Jinkx Monsoon’s “annoying” ukulele antics, and the enduring camaraderie and quirks of former contestants.
  • “I remember one morning she’d reach over for that ukulele and Raja was like, ‘Jinx, not today. Not today, Jinx.’” — Monét [42:09]
• Debating ways to keep Drag Race fresh: fans want all-sewing challenges and more niche seasons. Monét questions the show’s reluctance to take fan feedback seriously, especially regarding the potential for a “Caribbean Drag Race.”
  • “Maybe it might just be… too black. They're like, we can't have a Caribbean season that's all black.” — Monét [45:51]

9. Caribbean Diversity and Media Stereotypes

[45:51 – 47:12]

• Both hosts share memories of growing up around Caribbean-Asian communities and how multicultural realities challenge media stereotypes.
• “One of my cousins… her husband was of Chinese descent but Jamaican. So, like, I had an uncle who looked Chinese but sounded like everybody else.” — Kid Fury [46:53]

10. Social Media Overload & TikTok’s Black Algorithm

[47:13 – 51:15]

• Discussion about wrestling with TikTok’s addictive nature, how the platform learns their identities, and using apps to find community (and Caribbean food joints) after moving to LA.
  • “When I first used it… I was like, it’s gonna be one more 20 year old white bitch on here trying to sell me skims before I cut somebody that I know out. It knows that I’m black now.” — Kid Fury [50:12]

11. Caribbean Food in L.A. & Cultural Appreciation

[51:16 – 52:16]

• Monét recounts the struggle to find good Jamaican food in L.A., eventually discovering TEVs via TikTok—emphasizing how food ties them to home and identity.

12. Final Trending Thought: Who Needs to Come Out After 50?

[52:24 – 53:48]

• Kid Fury asks Monét what global trend they’d create:
  • “Not coming out after 50 years old. People come out after 50 — we don’t need it. Especially when they are wealthy… keep it to yourself. No one needs to hear it.” — Monét [52:40]
• Both riff, with special shade for public figures who waited until later in life for performative reasons.
  • “Five whole decades on this planet being as gay as your ass was… keep it. We don’t need it.” — Kid Fury [53:23]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On public shaming: “I’m bringing shame back. I think we need to bring back shame. Please just give me a break.” — Kid Fury [00:12]
• About shots in adulthood: “At this big age of mine, my body is done with that. That is a young ladies sport.” — Kid Fury [07:53]
• On parental flight stress: “Watching parents flying with their kids is the biggest birth control. I mean, directly from Christ.” — Kid Fury [17:45]
• The unpredictability of Caribbean tech hacks: “You know, we will find a way.” — Kid Fury [25:43]
• The inside Drag Race moment: “By like week seven… Jinx, girl, I love you, but you gotta put the ukulele down.” — Monét [41:28]
• About late-life coming out: "Not coming out after 50 years old… keep it. We don’t need it. You should have kept that shit to yourself Caitlin. Right?" — Monét [52:37]

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Tone & Style

This episode is candid, witty, and irreverently insightful. Kid Fury’s signature rants and comic tangents set an unfiltered, rapid-fire tone, matched effortlessly by Monét’s humor and warmth. The conversation seamlessly jumps from pop culture critique to vulnerable personal anecdotes, always maintaining a sense of community, cultural awareness, and hard-won wisdom.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is quintessentially queer, Caribbean, and current—melding cultural critique with deep personal sharing. Listeners get rare behind-the-scenes Drag Race gossip, sagely advice about living authentically, and both hosts’ singular takes on aging, fandom, and the wild state of pop (and drag) culture.

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Highly recommended for fans of drag, queer commentary, cultural analysis, or anyone needing a laugh and a reality check.

Transcript

[Kid Fury]

So listen, I'm about to be 39 years old. I'm just going to say this to you with my whole entire face. I'm bringing shame back. I'm bringing it back. I think we need to bring back shame. Please just give me a break. I'm legitimately doing the best I can out here, but, oh my God, everything is shaming now. And some of y' all need shame, to be honest with you. Some of you guys need boundaries. Some of you guys need a reminder to do better. Now, this isn't, you know, I'm not going for your body. I'm not going for, you know, your brain too much. If it's a clinical thing, there's a lot of y' all out here making excuses. Shame. What's wrong with that? Shame is just a natural fucking emotion. And it's telling you to evaluate. It's telling you to self analyze. It's telling you to think a bit. And that's the problem with a lot of bitches. Now you're doing all that TikTok scrolling and you need to get back to you bitch. Stop having everybody in their goddamn ca and their, you know, pet guinea pig tell you how to live your life. Bitch, get into some shame. I'm bringing it back. I don't care. I'm going to try to be fair, moral, and learn it, but I'm also going to offend some of y' all bitches. And that, you know, it just is what it is. I tell jokes for a living. That said, I'm Kid Fury. Welcome back to Furious Thoughts. The other day I was thinking to myself, the pledge of Allegiance at school was wild. Like every day we had to say the Pledge of Allegiance to just start the day off. Why? Why do I still know all of them damn words when I'm so oppressed and marginalized in this? Furthermore, why the did I need to pledge my goddamn allegiance to a fuck thing? I'm seven, but bombs blowing up in air and the. Wait, how's it going? Well, we're back. I don't even remember how the motherfucking things go. But I know you're supposed to promise things, and I know that I take all of it back. There it is. Woo. Speaking of school. Jesus. So listen, I cannot tell you how much I love the little kids, little elementary school children and kindergarten children in their little recitals. I love them coming up on here and singing Bruno Mars or whatever the fuck in their school auditorium. And you here at 7pm Just trying to get home so you could watch stars but instead, you are at the elementary school after hours watching your baby and all their classmates up there singing. Tamia. And I really, really love seeing that on the phone or on YouTube at my house. I'm never coming. I never want to be there. I don't have enough maturity in me. I don't think I ever will to handle that live and in person. I don't know if I'm. I'm probably going to be judging some of your children. Um, God forbid they have to do, like, a two step or a little dance, because, my God, I'm gonna be looking at the counts. I'm gonna be judging the choreography. Furthermore, if your baby can't sing, just let them wave a flag or something like that. You know, I'm just coming at it with a lot of different perspectives that are probably unnecessary in the space. Furthermore, I'm also judging you. I'm also judging you parents. I'm judging you who ain't paying attention enough, and I'm judging y' all who are paying too much goddamn attention. You are not mean girls. You are not Amy Poehler. Sit your. You even get that camcorder from probably ebay. Everybody just chill out and have a good time, you know, with Ms. Rachel and friends. I really, really think it's cute. It's very, very innocent. It's lovely. It is at a time when these children know nothing but making slime or labo boos or fruit juice and peace and happiness and friendship. It's. It is very, very sweet. Off key, horribly boring. But when I can, like, get a clip of it on, like, a real or a YouTube short. Lovely. God bless you and them babies. I hate bitches who say, I'm not dating until this. I'm not gonna have me a man till this. I'm not getting in a relationship until this. Okay, bitch, the street's not gonna miss you. Just go do what the fuck you want to. Like, what. What are you telling us this? Just don't date. Just don't date. Who are you trying to convince, Barb? Who are you trying to convince, Millicent? Who are you trying to convince, Joandria? I just made all of those names up. Who are you lying to? Like, why do you. First of all, I don't care. I don't care. Like, I don't. I don't care why you're choosing not to date so you don't really have to tell me about it, write about it. I mean, sure, if we're over at the crib and drag race just ended and we're, you know, having a parlay and you're like, hey, by the way, fuck these niggas. And here's why. Fine, I'm probably drunk at this point. I'll be receptive. But overall, oh, I'm not dating until these niggas that are dating, then just don't. Just don't. Because most of these hoes still gonna be outside and they're not gonna be thinking about you. Bitch. Keep your eye on the prize. I have this thought quite a bit. Whenever I hear you make me wanna by Usher. The Raymond. Imagine you were the one with Usher. You make me want to leave the one I'm with and start a new relationship with you. Like, imagine if you were the one on the other side of that. Like, what the fuck? What do you say? Fuck me for what? First of all, you gonna leave that bitch too. Cause you're that type of nigga. And you're that type of nigga because you would say it so boldly to a melody on a perfectly produced track. Trash. But the pieces that you probably have to pick up when you hear Usher singing. Ass. Just getting off the set of Moesha, talking about some. I'm gonna leave that bitch at home to come get with you. You have to have like a week long session with your homegirls and them maybe like a voodoo doll or Florida water. I don't really know how that works. What was I talking about? Growing up is accepting internally and externally silent out loud. Growing up is accepting that shots are not for you anymore. Oh God, just give me a plain old drink. Give me like a cocktail if you will. Maybe something on ice on the rocks, but I don't know what it is. Shots are violent shots. At this big age of mine, my body is done with that. That is a young ladies sport. That is for all of the children fresh off of, you know, Collins Avenue for spring break. You girls got it. God bless you and, and everything that you are capable of doing within those things. But you bitches who are up here at the end of 30 and up with me, please get these shots out of my face. What is wrong with you? How, how and why do we still have to do this? I thought that I, I paid my dues. Just give me a regular drink. Matter of fact, I shouldn't even be drinking period right now. Health shout out to all of the teachers, professors, educators who are out working in the 90s during the height of WWF now known as WWE. Why was I in like 5th and 6th grade with other children going suck It. Why. And why were we doing that at school in front of people? W. It was so violent. Everything was a middle finger. Everything was crotch related. And, like, as an adult, fierce. But why weren't more adults supervising us? I had an uncle who was a huge, huge wrestling fan, and he would just let me sit down there and watch the shit with him. This was back when the Rock had hair and we didn't know that everybody was super conservative and a problem. Oh, Lord God. Now Vince McMahon wife is like the Secretary of Education. Like, that don't even make sense. Do you feel like. Do you understand why. With that said, why I believe that this is either a simulation or God is just. This is his planet where he has fun, you know? I mean, like, you have a degree, but you also watch baddies. That's how I feel like God is dealing with us very much a baddie's audition or reunion. Because how the fuck is the wife, the wife of the founder of a World Wrestling League, secretizing anybody's education? Oh, my God, what was I talking about? Who gives a fuck? All you teachers back in the 90s who dealt with us and our antics surrounded them fucking wrestling people that you. You didn't know about or give a fuck about. My heart goes out to you. I humbly apologize. I don't remember taking part in it directly, but I was incredibly entertained by it. So, you know, I'm thinking of you. I'm thinking of you wherever you are held. Some of y' all probably still teach. What a spectrum, right? What a way. Write a book. I miss when white rappers were controversial. I do. I miss when there was basically Eminem, because that's all we could handle. And he was inarguably a talent. And also also didn't say N, baby, if. If Eminem, like, popped today. Slim Shady and also said nigga, he would still be an incredibly successful touring artist. If we felt like he could spell N when he came out, death lynching, he would have never cracked as. As badass of a. A lyricist as he is. It would have never happened. Now we have just opened the gates for any fucking Machine Gun the Third, and I just want them shut again. Girl, when Jack Harlow was a thing, I knew it was a rap. Because where the fuck did this Corey Matthews looking and his spectacles come out here rapping like he from Atlanta? And why are we letting him and sisters, why are y' all telling him he's cute? Sisters, why y' all telling me he's cute? I. I don't. I feel like this is part of the. The reason why the, the young people. Jen Alpha Gen Z, y' all not shaken by the word negative being said by non black people. And this is probably a separate thought. We'll just blend them together. I blame your parents. I blame whoever raised you. You know what I'm saying? I refuse to accept that the times are just different and we've grown to blankety blank blank blank. Because let me tell you something, white people been trying to say nigga for fun since way before my time. And I was very much drawing blood in the state of Miami Dade County. Yes, I said the state of Miami Dade county because we're not from Florida anyway. We used to beat people's ass. Built directly to ass for say nigga.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Kid Fury]

Because of history and education and reclamation. Now y' all like, well, why can't Mariah Lynn just say nigga? It's just a word. Listen, I. I will continue to say this. I paid my dues. I'm probably going in the ground any day now. This world is y' alls good luck. Let's talk about AI just very quickly. Shut up. Just real quick. I just want to make one point. Please stop telling me that AI is the future. Please stop telling me that AI is the future just because you just now heard of it, baby. I think the first time I heard of AI was when I played the original Super Mario Brothers. AI is the future. Duh, bitch. It's also the past. The point is, what are you using today's AI technology to use, I'll tell you, to make art of yourself with six packs. To make art of Nicki Minaj riding shotgun with J.D. vance. Dragon Ball Goku from Dragon Ball Z with a Nike tech suit on. Y' all wasting energy and time. But AI is the future, bitch. If this AI is the future, bury me today. I. I'm plucked. I'm so tired of it. Y' all ain't creative. Your ideas are bad. You're not using it for anything good. But AI is the future. I don't know what qualifies as middle age, but I know I'm there, right? Being middle aged blows. And I'm going to tell you why it's all confusion. Where am I? Let me be old or let me be young? I get those I'm young coloring books. Spice World, Lisa Frank and then Cussing Ready to Die by Notorious B. I'm describing mine, but yeah. And old, I think for me is probably just gonna be this but wrinkly. Or maybe not. Maybe I'll continue to have youthful skin. I just. This portion is. Is too much. I'm dealing with my younger self and all of the ramifications of that era. And I'm also, like, having this weird anxiety about the fact that I am aging and everybody's dying and everything's on fire. And also, I'm a golden girl, or I'll be a golden girl not long from now. That's actually probably the only thing about aging that brings me peace, is being able to, like, really, really connect with those ladies past just laughing at the fact that the show's funny. But right now, this, like, cream filling in the Oreo section. It's a mental. It's a mental trap. It's really fucked up and confusing, and I honestly just want somebody to massage my knees and just tell me everything's gonna be okay. That wasn't an invitation. It's just a statement that I'm making. Please don't be weird. Thanks. I need somebody as soon as possible to explain to me how they come up with the settings for these random ass medicine commercials. Y' all know what I'm talking about. I saw an ad for some Ozempic or one of her cousins, like, a couple of months ago, and it was this round black lady walking into the supermarket dancing like she was on a goddamn nutcracker, throwing lettuce and shit in her goddamn shopping cart. Because of course she's, you know, just getting veggies and produce and singing like she was in the color Purple musical Taraji. Why? Like, what? Why. Why can't they just be, like, at the house and kids come over and like, oh, I just made cookies or something? Well, I guess not cookies because, you know what I mean? Like, why is it like, oh, for this medication that can help you with your diarrhea or Crohn's disease or whatever. Let's have the mountain climbing. Let's have them go spelunking somewhere. Why can't they just go to the park? I feel like they be doing that on purpose to play people faces and see who's going to say something. Me, why did that fat black lady have to go to the grocery store for Ozempic? So, yeah, if someone can break that down to me, I would really love to know. It's very interesting. Parents. Specifically mothers, because fathers, y' all don't do this. Watching parents flying with their kids is the biggest birth control. I mean, directly from Christ. Listen, I'm not interested. I think I will be a fierce unctie, you know what I mean? Presents, candies Affirmation secrets, very much. Uncle, auntie mode. My own children, not interested. And even if I were, baby, I just got back into town a couple days ago, sitting on this non stop flight right next to this girl who like, she might have been four and her mother sitting on the other side. Girl was cute as a button. Didn't bother me at all. Her mother was sweating bullets the entire time as if she was anticipating this girl pulling out a butcher knife at some point and just cutting everybody up. The girl was just sitting there watching Zootopia to just chilling. I was like, y' all really don't like these niggas like you? You don't like. They give you anxiety. They bother you very much. You love them, but they also get on your nerves. You would have loved to be flying on that goddamn plane by yourself. But instead you could barely get any sleep because you were worried if she was kicking me. The lady literally at the end of the flight was like, I think he was just kicking this. This young man for the whole flight. I was like, if she was fierce, you might have an assassin on your hand, girl. Cause I ain't feel a fuck thing. Stressed. Hey, folks out there with ovaries, if you're on the fence, I dare you to take a flight to like Orlando or some shit, bitch. It'll wrap that shit up for you. Don't worry. A couple weeks ago, I was in the back of an Uber and we were at a light somewhere here in la, and I looked out the window and this man, who I'm assuming was the father of his little girl, they were standing at a light, getting ready to cross. And this little girl had on this cute backpack and this Demon Slayer T shirt. She had to be like five, six years old. I'm already a fan because little black girl love anime. Demon Slayer. Great choice. So I was already like, oh, look, how cute. For whatever godly reason, this girl turned, looked at me, saw my little black face in the back of this car and waved. Smiled and waved. I was already a fan, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Kid Fury]

Why did I almost bust out crying in the back of this fucking vehicle? It was so sweet and so innocent. I almost got choked up. And I just said a quick prayer like, God, just give her everything. Give her everything she needs. Protect her, Jesus. She loves Demon Slayer. She clearly has taste. She's an intellectual, she's an artist. She's a creative. Protect this child. And she's joyous. She didn't have to acknowledge my ugly black ass, but she did anyway. And she validated It. She validated my black ass with a kind wave. Young lady, you will never see or hear this. Hopefully not, because it's very vulgar. But love goes out to you. You really made my heart grow. How many sizes? The Grinch. The Grinch. Big Heart. That part of the film. Protect these black babies. All of the babies. Protect them. My God. Give them a chocolate milk and all of the food. Make sure that they have places to live and food to eat and kindness. Is that so fucking hard? I don't even like these niggas. And I want them to be happy and successful and safe. The other day, girl, I was at a friend's party, baby turned one. And I'm in the kitchen getting shit faced. I'm talking about half a bottle of tequila. But I'm grown, from Miami and my family Jamaican. I held it. Well, this little girl came into the kitchen trying to make herself a plate of macaroni and cheese, you know what I'm saying? Some collard greens, some ribs, and some brisket they threw down. This little girl came in there, tiny as could be, could barely get up to the food and stuff. And without thinking twice, I turned to her and I said, oh, baby, let me help you. Made this child a plate. Made her a plate, gave it to her. Her little hands looked like she could barely hold it up because them ribs were crucial. So then you know what I did? I said, oh, baby, let me get you a bigger plate. I don't want you to drop this. And the gag is this little white girl, one of three white people at the function, the other two being her parents. I was just happy to see her fed and smiling. So what the fuck is wrong with y'? All? Questions that need answers. Protect the babies. They need like a. They need like the Jimmy Neutron movie. I don't know why I remember this, but I do remember in a juvenile neutron movie, the aliens came and took all the adults. And then all the kids was running around Earth just eating ice cream and farting and shit. And then eventually they're like, oh, I don't know how to work the dvr. Mama, please come home. I think that's what the kids need. They need, like, a week to just eat garbage and watch Ms. Rachel. Let's move on. Chaee, thank you so much for listening to these thoughts, Titties. Welcome back to Furious Thoughts, the podcast I'm very, very excited about. Our guest Today is about damn time. Okay, we have a legend. We have an all star. We have a Drag Race winner, a singer, a comedian, a podcast Extraordinaire. And a Caribbean queen. Or is why people say Caribbean when

[Monet X Change]

exchange is here, why people do say Caribbean? I'm like a Caribbean is what you put on your bag to hold your keys if you're a lesbian. That's a Caribbean. I'm a Caribbean person. Thank you. Yeah. As are you. I am, yes.

[Kid Fury]

Jamaica, St. Lucia.

[Monet X Change]

St. Lucia, yes.

[Kid Fury]

Yes. I went to St. Lucia couple years ago for our birthday. Gorgeous.

[Monet X Change]

Very hilly, Very hilly. Lots of hills. Lots of hills. Activate them glutes.

[Kid Fury]

You.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you already got a very nice curvature back there, but that would make it even more.

[Kid Fury]

I think we even had to pull over on the way to the house. We were staying like out of the airport. We had to pull over because somebody was like sick.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, like, oh, the windy roads, especially coming from that airport is windy as. But Jamaica has lots of hills and

[Kid Fury]

windy roads and stuff like that too.

[Monet X Change]

No, never been to Jamaica. I need to go. I need to go.

[Kid Fury]

I can't. Like, it feels weird urging openly gay people to go to that place. But I mean, it's gorgeous and I love it.

[Monet X Change]

Beautiful.

[Kid Fury]

It's very near and dear to my heart.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, I do see the tide turning in a lot of the Caribbean islands. You know, Lucia just. Just decriminalized it a month ago, which is sodomy. The sodomy law. Being gay in the bedroom. They just decriminalized that. So there's still ways to go. Right? Marriage, quality, all those things. But progress is progress and so. And Barbados did as well. Do you know that Trinidad has a pride festival?

[Kid Fury]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kid Fury]

They would be the ones.

[Monet X Change]

They would be the ones.

[Kid Fury]

It would be them. No shame. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

And Curacao. No, not Curacao. One of the ones down there down day in Trinidad, they did have like a full on parade and I was like, what work? I know. Yeah, yeah.

[Kid Fury]

So this being like a techy communication whatever podcast shit it is that I'm doing and you being a queen of the Caribbean nature. Are you a WhatsApp family? Are you? Are you and the girl. Does anyone have. Have you on WhatsApp?

[Monet X Change]

You know, the stronghold WhatsApp has on the Caribbean and African and African communities is crazy. So my family does have a whole WhatsApp situation going on, but I just can't engage in a WhatsApp. It's too much. So I just do the imessage and I text people if have an iPhone. I will communicate with you family. If you don't, girl, that's your business. I ain't. Oh, oh. Did Y' all have this back in the. Did y' all have Magic Jack?

[Kid Fury]

No.

[Monet X Change]

What's that? So Magic Jack was this thing where you can buy this like. Like a little plug in router that went into your phone down there. All of the like West Indian girlies.

[Kid Fury]

I think I know what you're talking about.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kid Fury]

I didn't know the name.

[Monet X Change]

So the family will come up here, they will buy it doll to Saint Lucia or Jamaica or whatever and they would plug their phones into it so they got like an American number. So you could call that number from here and it would connect directly to their phone using the.

[Kid Fury]

You know, we will find a way. I think my daddy has like a fire stick or something now, so he go watch tv. J. We don't find a way to watch it. But it ain't none of your business. He watches Jamaican news.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Why?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but you know he want to stay on it. He want to make sure he know what's going on.

[Kid Fury]

Good.

[Monet X Change]

I appreciate that.

[Kid Fury]

And living here and being black and at that age, why wouldn't she just be like, let me get out. Please transport my. Myself back to a better time.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I know they also also like they have other reasons to use like WhatsApp. Like it like encrypts your like all this stuff. I guess I just. Which I can I be honest. I'm probably. I probably sound so freaking ignorant. Encrypting means what? Like putting it like so no one can hack it together.

[Kid Fury]

I think. No, I don't think that's it.

[Monet X Change]

That's not it.

[Kid Fury]

I don't.

[Monet X Change]

Some kind of some type of protection against your messages or something.

[Kid Fury]

I think it's in the room with. It's in the room of protection.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Yeah. Right.

[Kid Fury]

It has something to do with covering something.

[Monet X Change]

Covering in the blood. Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

I should Google so between. You wear many hats. Many, many, many, many hats. And you wear additional hats in just the hosting space. Like I'm talking about between the pit stop. Sibling rivalry. Monet talks. Monet's slumber party. Slumber party. Ebony and irony. I mean girl, you have hosted everything Exchange Ray.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God, I miss that show.

[Kid Fury]

You've done. So. Okay, a couple things. What do you think lends itself or has is. What do you think is like the origin of you being so such like a natural host and like very easy to speak to. There's not many people even like you'd expect that you could give that kind of a job to many of the drag girls.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

But not anyone can really like command conversation And. And be engaging and be able to speak to nearly anybody.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

So where do you think that comes from?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I think that comes from little, insecure, chubby, little fat Kevin who was waddling his way around school. And when I was a little kid, I had a really bad stammer. Like, I had like a really thick stammer. Like, literally, like. Like, I would do my words like that, and it was awful. So sometimes I would often feel like a prisoner in my own head. Cause I couldn't get, like, what I wanted to say out. And I wouldn't say it because I'm whole room was looking at me. Everyone was like, oh, God, here he go. Again. So I just would not. So my mom would make me read out loud to her several nights a week. And that for, like, years when I was a kid. And that, like, helped me. I don't know if that's how you're supposed to cure that, but it worked for me. You know, sometimes I still have moments, but for the most part, you know, it corrected itself. And then so when I, like, got free from that, like, I would. That's when was birthed. The era of. Kevin will not shut up. Like, every report card. Kevin, please get him to stop talking. Kevin won't stop talking. Please. Like, it was every single report card. And I think. And I think, oh, my God, you're, like, giving. This is like a. I'm having like an Oprah moment here. I was like. So I think because of that, I'm literally processing, working this out right now. I was like, I never want to be that again. I never want to be held back or think I'm held back by my own speech. So now when I get the chance to talk, I just love to talk. And I think that has manifested in, like, hosts and different things. And even when it's not offered to me, just creating my own, like, the exchange rate was something that was birthed on my own. I did one thing for build downtown. And then I literally was like. I went to the senior vice president of the network literally that day, and I was like, I wanna host a show here. She was like, who are you? I was like, my name's Monet. I guess I'm gonna think today. And I wanna host a show here. And she's like, all right, send me a proposal of what you thinking? And then I literally went home that night, worked out the entire show, me and my friend Jay. And then I emailed it to her, and she. And literally next to. She's like, let's Fucking do it. And I did that show for two and a half years and it was give me TRLT's. Ah, I love this so much. It was right downtown, so we had that window there. And oftentimes people would stop and they would like be knocking on the window and stuff. And we had a live studio audience. They had like jibs and cameras. I would like in charge of, like a crew of people. It was. It was the most fun I've ever had doing anything in my life. I want that back so bad. I love that.

[Kid Fury]

Is there, like another idea or interest in the televised or hosting space that you are interested in bringing to life, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, like, definitely. I mean, I think my big, like, North Star, my goal again, is to get some type of talk show situation moment. Like, I really, really, really. And I think, you know, I'm not unique in that, but I think something. I really want, something I'm really working at. Which is why I started prioritizing stand up. Cause my agent was like, hey, look, he's a very straight shooter. He's like, look, you want to do this hosting thing, you got to establish yourself as a standup comedian. He was like, there's not a direct path. But oftentimes we see, you know, that it is a pathway to get. Cause you need to know how to be funny and to relate to people. And stand up is a doorway to that. So we need to get you stand up. That's why I took Stand up mom so seriously three years ago now. And I love doing stand up. It's so fucking fun. And. Yeah, so that's what I want. I want some type of that or hosting some type of game show or Food Network show.

[Kid Fury]

You know, I was literally gonna say I could see you having one of those shows where there's a segment where you're behind a counter.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I would love that.

[Kid Fury]

And you have on an apron.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kid Fury]

And you're like, oh, yeah, teach me how to make this.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Like, I don't. I just. I see it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would love that. And also, like. Cause I'm addicted to food. Like, my assistant Patty makes fun of me. Like, I literally watch Food Network shows. Like, it's a Super Bowl. Like, Chopped is my. I've seen every single episode of Chopped they've been on for literally. This is not an exaggeration. 61 seasons of the show.

[Kid Fury]

What?

[Monet X Change]

61 seasons? Because they do like two, sometimes three seasons a year. And each season is like 23 episodes. So you guys. Three. That's. So Ted is doing 69 episodes of Chopped a year. They go to a studio somewhere and they probably locked down for what, five months filming from all these episodes. Then the rest of the year. You're good. Judge Judy used to do her show. She filmed for two weeks, five cases a day for two weeks. And she's good for the year. Like, I'm like, I want that kind

[Kid Fury]

of schedule clocking in, like five days a week to film this bullshit. That's very. What was her full name?

[Monet X Change]

Judge Judy Sheindlin.

[Kid Fury]

Yes, Judith Sheindlin. That's very much. You bitches got 14 days, literally.

[Monet X Change]

And done, done, done, done.

[Kid Fury]

And why she was so impatient. My favorite meme. Yeah, you have three days left of filming. I'm going home either way.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they did it two weeks. She got 30 episodes. They did five shows for five days of the week, but probably Saturday, Sundays off. So after two weeks she has 30 episodes. So that is.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah. So, okay, I want to talk a bit about Drag Race. We've discussed the fact that you have won and host the girls. And the girls know and respect and all these things. First, I want to talk about, like, the fandom.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Kid Fury]

Right. I have so many thoughts and I have so many opinions, and I have a winner here.

[Monet X Change]

Are they furious thoughts?

[Kid Fury]

They are very furious. Literally. Yeah. I think that the franchise or the series has become so. So epic.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

That. And entertaining. That it has really opened doors for people who kind of have no real proximity to the culture itself. Spectators.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

But for whatever reason, I feel like when it's gay shit or this type of gay shit, those spectators have no boundaries.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

They're just like, oh, is this a rope? Excuse me. So, hello, you're ugly, fat, stupid and poor. And I don't. I don't get it now. I'm an aging bitch. I remember the first season of the show. I remember when it was on the gay show, the gay network.

[Monet X Change]

She who should not be there.

[Kid Fury]

You're right.

[Monet X Change]

Uh huh.

[Kid Fury]

Um. And so I kind of remember, like, the golden age, if you will. And it. When it had, like, a bit more. And it felt like, you know, like most of the popular memes and moments and stuff like that. But I also just feel like because I'm a gay guy of a certain age and have seen drag and know trans people, and I have an actual closeness to it, even as someone who doesn't practice the art. So I get ornery when people are disrespectful, especially when Those people are 17 years old.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kid Fury]

So I wanna know what the what is the experience like when there is this odd, like, film or like, weird lace curtain.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Between you? People who have put blood, sweat, tears, money, time into this thing long before there was a show. And people on the other side who claim to love it and support it, but can be unbearable sometimes. And are there safe spaces on that side of it? What do those look like?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I think that my relationship with the fandom has definitely. It has ebbed and flowed a lot through my career. Like, you know, I think because again, I was one of those queens.

[Kid Fury]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Drag Race. Drag Race had just started when I started doing drag, you know. Cause I started doing Drag around season 2012, which is around season three. So, you know, so drag wasn't around already. But I did not start doing drag. Cause I was like, ooh, I want to get famous. I want to get on tv. I started drag because there was for myself. I was still answering questions about my gender, my identity, what that looked like. How do I feel wearing women's clothes? How do I feel like I was figuring that out for myself. And drag was a really big doorway that said, hey, come enter here, enter here. So that's why I started doing drag. And then after I figured out the gender stuff and what that meant to me, then I started leaning more into the cause before. Because when I first I wasn't going out to perform, I was just going out so I can go to Forever 21, get a cute dress for $10 and like feel myself. Right. Yeah, I was just like a little scene girl in New York City walking around, feeling puss in an outfit, getting a cheap ass wig and just. You know what I mean? So. And then, so when I figured out the gender stuff, I was like, oh, okay, I'm not trans. I'm not this. I just feel more like myself when I get to put on a frog and put on a wig. And like, I just. I feel comfortable that way. And I like expressing myself that way.

[Kid Fury]

Kind of like unlocks or connects something.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You know, it next is something for me, something that I was really honest, to be honest, afraid of before. I was like, but I can't do that because that makes me this thing. And that thing is scary and ugly. And I can't, you know, it's a better figure that out. Then I started leaning into the performance and I was like, oh, the artistry that I'm able to unlock and tap into when I am in drag feels so different than what I learned. What. What I was learning in art school to sing opera and What I had learned all these years and, like, quiet. It was just. I was accessing a different part of my artistry that I did not even know existed. So the expression and the creativity came, and that's why I started doing drag. I didn't get on DRAG to be on Drag Race, but I get the gift, the precious gift that Mother RuPaul gave me to come on his television show and meet millions of people around the world. And then now these millions of people are meeting me, and now they have so many opinions on everything I do, how I think, what I look like, the fact that I'm too black, the fact that I'm too fat, all this stuff. And you get this, like, wall of attention, which I want to. I want to say, like, 70, 75, 80% of it is really great and really lovely, but that 20% that you see here and there, it really can get you down. And people are like, well, girl, but you. There's so many more positive things than negative things.

[Kid Fury]

But.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but you're talking about me. So I could have a hundred beautiful comments. The two negative ones, really, I see those and they hurt and it feels bad.

[Kid Fury]

That's a human thing.

[Monet X Change]

It's a human thing. People say, well, don't look at the comments. I'm like, how can I not look at. You're talking about my r. You're talking about me.

[Kid Fury]

Unrealistic. And I would say, Even for the 20%, a small maybe like 5% of that is malicious with the intent to be. Yeah. A lot of people might say something that's not nice and they don't mean to be mean. Yeah. They maybe don't have the self aware or again, the boundaries.

[Monet X Change]

The boundaries to just be like, you know what?

[Kid Fury]

That's a person.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

And they're doing their job.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

And I don't know them. Even if I did, I don't need

[Monet X Change]

to be like, hey, stop. You know what I mean? Like, no. So then. So after years, I begin to like you, begin to teach your fans how to treat you and how you respond. And then I think they quickly realize I'm not the girl that's just gonna ignore it or whatever. If you say something about me, I'm gonna tell you that your mother's a bitch and your grandmother should have died.

[Kid Fury]

Hello.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna come at you. I'm gonna meet you with the same energy you meet me with. So for the most part, I say, when I see fans step out their face and ones that have such strong and awful and horrible feelings, I Just have to find a place in myself. Either go insulin and be like, you know what? Kevin Monet is not about you. That is all their shit. You can't take that on. And if you are expressing yourself that way and feel that that is the only way that you can communicate with someone that you know parasocially, then that is your own shit that they have to do. And I can't take that on. That's for them to figure out with their therapist, with their God, with their Allah, whoever it is. And I. It's not for me to fix or change or worry about. That's their own shit.

[Kid Fury]

That sounds very, like, powdery and, like, easy said and done or whatever. And I think it might be. I find that getting older makes that a bit easier.

[Monet X Change]

And I think that's the key.

[Kid Fury]

Getting older, priorities shifting, family, getting older, like, important shit in your life makes you go, you know what? That's for you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

To figure out. It didn't even have anything to do.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I realize the Internet is so, yes, it's vast, but it's also so small. So, like, so, like, so all that shit is happening. I'm still selling tickets to my shows. People are still watching my content. People are still, you know, like, so it may seem like, oh, my God, the Internet hates me and they want to see, but I'm still doing what I need to do. I'm still. And again, I think you're also getting older. Right. Like, I still have to pay this mortgage. I still gotta pay this car note, so you can think all that, but I need to do all these things. So I'm gonna prioritize my health and my wealth so that I can still support myself and do that. And you can keep and have those opinions and tell whoever you want to on the Internet, but Twitter is this big. Twitter is not the world. Twitter is just Twitter, you know, I mean, the Tick Tock comments, though, they seem like they are the world. They're not. They're just tick tock.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You know, so just like, always remembering that too.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah. Are there any. Okay, so, like, RuPaul's Drag Race is obviously famous for a million and ten memes and quotables, and a lot of them back rolls party. Like, a lot of them are just

[Monet X Change]

like, everybody knows it. Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Are there any, like, moments from the series that are kind of like, inside the. Only the girls kind of talk about Keke, about this moment?

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, there definitely are. I think that one moment, especially from all sides that I remember is that we saw a Little bit of, A little bit of it on tv. But Jinx Monsoon, that fucking ukulele that she had, I don't think I understand how unique, annoying she was with that fucking ukulele. Cuz she like every morning in the workroom.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I gotta say, we get to set like around like 7, 7:30 in the morning. People do their interviews, we do a little bit like getting breakfast, whatever, and we start filming around like 10, 11 o'. Clock. And Jinx would be outside by the picnic table, inside, strumming his goddamn ukulele. Sing me songs. And by like week, week, week seven, which is really like week two in like actual filming. Cause every episode is two days. You're like, jinx, girl, I love you, but you gotta, you have to put the ukulele down. And like all of us there, Ra', Jah, myself, Viv, Trinity, Shay, we're like, girl, you cannot. And then sometimes we'll all be sitting there, like a little quiet moment before we get into the thing. And somebody would see her. I remember one morning, she'd reach over for that ukulele and Roger was like, jinx, not today. Not today, Jinx.

[Kid Fury]

I want to be in Maui, but I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not. I'm still Maher filming RuPaul Drag Race. So not today.

[Kid Fury]

I love delightfully weird shit like that. Yeah, yeah, like when it's, it's cute. Even when it gets to like day 30 and I'm like, okay, not today, but tomorrow. Got you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, today. Tomorrow would be great. But then today it's a no, that's fine. Uh huh.

[Kid Fury]

What are some things that you think could be done for old bitches like me that feel like the first 10 seasons of drag Race were the sauce? Cause I've been saying, give me an all sewing challenge season. You think?

[Monet X Change]

You don't think you'll get over it though?

[Kid Fury]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Like all sewing.

[Kid Fury]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, because I think about like Project Runway and that's like all sewing and I love it. Which by the way, the new season, Project Runway is so good, isn't it? Law Roach is eating the girls so good. Law Roach, come read me, girl.

[Kid Fury]

You could call me ugly. Whatever you want.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You know, I do think the show needs to change things up. And I think they are doing it like, I think this new All Stars bracket, even though people hated it towards the end because of Whatever.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But I, to me, it's a very welcome change. And after so many seasons of All Stars, whatever, like, you gotta change up, you gotta switch it up. So I think they need to do

[Kid Fury]

when shows like that.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, why? Like, what's your aversion to listening what the fans are saying? The fans have been saying all sewing season and all first out winner season on the street. Like, whatever. Like, I'm like, the fans are literally telling you what they want. And y' all behind the cameras are saying, like, no. Which I'm like, we on Civil rivalry. We do that all the time. Every now and then, we just, we just pitch to our patrons. They're like, what do you want to hear us talk about? Like, what are some fun things you want to see us do? Like, they're the one, they're paying for the content. So, like, listen to. So I don't get Drag Race not listening to what the fans say. Like, every season, they're like, you should do this, this, this. And I'm always like, oh, those sound like great ideas, but they're just always like, no.

[Kid Fury]

Very Iyanla. Is that what you really want?

[Monet X Change]

Because let me tell you, you know,

[Kid Fury]

they never go, I don't know what the.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't get why they want to do that. Like, the fans are telling you what they want, but just don't do it. It's weird.

[Kid Fury]

I just really enjoy seeing talent on the show, like, when it comes. Like, that's why Snatch Games, anytime that you have to make an outfit, talent shows, those are my favorite things, because you get to see these people really do something other than their makeup and put on something that now, a lot of times they didn't make anyway. Yeah, it was like, oh, okay, that person can sing. That person is genuinely funny and knows how to, like, write and perform comedy. That person can make clothes. That person can play, you know, the violin or the ukulele or ice skate. Denali, I'm watching you, bitch. So, yeah, I just wonder, like, what, how, how do you throw things in there? Would you ever do, like, a Caribbean drag?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I mean, post it. Yeah, I would not. I, I, I am, I'm done competing on Drag Race.

[Kid Fury]

No, I mean, be the host. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean. Oh, I wish I totally would, but I don't think they would do a Caribbean season. They should, though, because I don't know if this is true. I know when they do, like, some of the other, when they do, like, Mexico, some other cities, they, they, they film it always in Colombia because it's a little cheaper to film in Colombia for whatever reason. So, like, I'm like, get, like, there are so many Caribbean girls now. Get One representative from each island or however many we have, and, like, do the Caribbean season. But I just. I just. To be honest, I don't think they see a lot of value in that.

[Kid Fury]

A longevity.

[Monet X Change]

A longevity. But just the one. And he also. Maybe it might just. It might just be. It might get too black. They're like, no shit. They're like, it's gonna be too black. They're like, we can't have a Caribbean

[Kid Fury]

citizen that's all black. And that would be their damn fault. Because the Caribbean is not just black.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. I say this all the time, you know. Cause I grew up in New York. I lived there from the time I was 1 to 11. So when I met my first Asian person, they had a West Indian accent. Like, they spoke like people from the Caribbean. So I grew up thinking that's how people from China spoke. Like. So when I moved to Brooklyn and it was.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, you.

[Monet X Change]

It was. I was like, oh, that's not how Chinese people speak. They don't speak like. I thought they spoke like St. Lucia. I thought they had Caribbean accents. It was. It was so interesting.

[Kid Fury]

I have the same experience because one of my cousins, or, like, my father's first cousin, her husband was of Chinese descent.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Kid Fury]

But Jamaican.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

So, like, I had a cousin or uncle to me. Cause I was a baby who looked Chinese but sound like everybody else. Yeah, just like, okay, yeah. But I think it was TV and stuff. Cause I, you know, spent most of my life in South Florida where everybody is. Caribbean.

[Monet X Change]

Is Caribbean. Yeah, Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

I think it was TV that was like, oh,

[Monet X Change]

oh, right.

[Kid Fury]

Okay. And still to this day, I'll have, like, an American person who might hear a Chinese person with a Jamaican accent

[Monet X Change]

speak pat or something, and they're like, what.

[Kid Fury]

What's your tik fault? Do you use TikTok?

[Monet X Change]

I do use TikTok here and there. It's just. I know people who are, like, chronically on TikTok. Like, Bob is like a chronic tiktoker. He is on there for hours a day. He knows all the trends, all the things. I just. I think it was age. I'm like, I. My brain cannot get into another one. Like, I could do it enough, but I don't. I cannot always be on it.

[Kid Fury]

I think my attention just doesn't work for it. Like, I think whatever attention disorder I may or may not have the.

[Monet X Change]

It's like, is it too much content? Like, it's too much.

[Kid Fury]

I think it's the way that you digest it. It feels like when I was a kid, when you'd watch a bit of someone channel surfing or they're just click, click.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, click, click.

[Kid Fury]

That's what it feels like to me of just like. And even I was in the gym the other day and I swear to God, girl, please don't watch this, but if you do, I don't know your name to say it. You know who you are. She was on the. She was doing legs. You know, the way you lay down?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, the leg press.

[Kid Fury]

The leg presser. And she's literally doing with some nice weight. And at the same time, I'll watch her and she's got in her earpods and she'll listen to like the first three seconds of somebody talking about and

[Monet X Change]

then switch the next one.

[Kid Fury]

And I'm like, you're actually working out and could probably hurt yourself.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Cause she's just like, no, I got this shit, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Well, I watched TikTok on the treadmill.

[Kid Fury]

That doesn't feel as bad.

[Monet X Change]

On the treadmill.

[Kid Fury]

Just like.

[Monet X Change]

Because what I realized. Cause one day I was on there, I was like, sometimes I'm like, I'm like, I do not want to go to the treadmill. What is the fastest way to make time fly? And I'm like, you know, I do be killing time when I just be at home just scrolling. And then I look up and 30 minutes have gone by. I'm like, why am I still on this couch and looking at TikTok? I need to leave this. So I was like, I'm gonna get on the treadmill. And just like. And honestly, it made the time go by like that. By the time with 30 minutes, I was like, oh, my God, I just did 30 minutes on the treadmill. Great. But what's annoying is that you gotta, if you run in, gotta like slow down so you can flip. They need to think of a way that I can do it with my head or something. I don't know.

[Kid Fury]

Do not give me motherfuckers no ideas. It's bad enough as it is. We are two days from Wall E. Everybody wants to be fed up in the sky. Like, I can't. I can't no more. But I get it. Everybody, you know, have your fun and like, the things that you like. I suppose mine is just like when I get on there. I did a bit with it last week because we're incorporating some of that into this. And it knows I'm black now.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Kid Fury]

Which I appreciate.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, yes. Good.

[Kid Fury]

When I first used it, I was like, it's gonna be one more 20 year old white bitch on here trying to sell me skims before I cut. Somebody that I know out. It knows that I'm black now. So it's like, a lot of silly jokes. Couple good Jamaican ones.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

And then black women who just don't have time for anybody's shit. So it's starting to get.

[Monet X Change]

It's getting to understand you.

[Kid Fury]

It's just the way that you get into it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You gotta do a lot of. You gotta use it a lot for it to be like, oh, okay, we see. Yeah, we see. I mean, I like TikTok. Cause I fuck. You know. Moving to Los Angeles from. As, you know, New York, like, New York has such a wealth of delicious Caribbean food. So many different options, so many good ones. Moving to la, I was like, where are the good Jamaican restaurants? Where is anything? I was going crazy. Even when I first moved there. I had to, like, ask, like. Cause I asked Amanda Seals. I hit her up. I was like, I know. You were like, a loud, openly Caribbean woman. Like.

[Kid Fury]

And she's from Grenada.

[Monet X Change]

Grenada. I was like, tell me the tea. And she didn't have anything but TikTok. I found one that is so TEV. Have you been to TEVs?

[Kid Fury]

No, but I've heard of TEVs.

[Monet X Change]

TEVs is so good. Now I live in the Valley. I'll drive. It's, like, with traffic, like, 45 minutes. But I don't care. I would drive. It is very good.

[Kid Fury]

They have to be, like, the one spot, because I promise you, I've heard of those. The last time I had Jamaican food was when my mama came to visit.

[Monet X Change]

Damn. I ordered it with her.

[Kid Fury]

She cooked it when she got rice. Yeah. But before then, it was probably when I was in New York.

[Monet X Change]

When you were in New York? Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, there are a lot of really good things to eat here, but be Caribbean girls.

[Monet X Change]

I want that. I want some oxtails and peas and rice and my cab. I want all that. And I'm like, I can't just walk into a place and get it.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I want to pay $38 for Plato Oxtails. I want them to put a gun to my head to rob me for

[Kid Fury]

these oxtails and then spit at you and spit at you on your way out.

[Monet X Change]

And I say thank you every time.

[Kid Fury]

And I will say thank you.

[Monet X Change]

I will say thank you.

[Kid Fury]

It's made with love. Yeah. All right, before we get out of here, I want to ask you a question. I'm asking all my guests.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

What are you trending? What is it that you would Create a global trend out of the world of yours.

[Monet X Change]

I would make a global trend out

[Kid Fury]

of

[Monet X Change]

not coming out after 50 years old. People who come out after 50, we don't need it. Especially when they are wealthy and like. Cause they oftentimes are not on the right side of history. So now we, you know, we tolerated you because you were straight. Whatever. Now you're coming out and you're Republican. I don't care. I don't need to know that. You should have kept that shit to yourself, Caitlin. Right?

[Kid Fury]

I mean, we could really run the gamut if we wanted to choose so many.

[Monet X Change]

But add this to the just don't bother coming out, shut it to yourself. Keep it to yourself. No one to hear it.

[Kid Fury]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I would do.

[Kid Fury]

That's too smooth. Agree.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

For what?

[Monet X Change]

For what?

[Kid Fury]

Five whole decades on this planet being as gay as your ass was.

[Monet X Change]

Keep it. No, keep it. We don't need it.

[Kid Fury]

What is that for? We don't have. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been Monet X Change.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you for having me. Fury.

[Kid Fury]

Thank you for coming.

[Monet X Change]

I'm excited to tell you you're iconic in the space. You paved the way for a lot of what a lot of us are doing. So thank you, thank you, thank you for having me on Furious Thought.

[Kid Fury]

Thank you for being here and thank you for watching and listening to this gay ass shit. Okay. Be careful. You gonna.