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I hate. I love competition reality shows.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I hate when love is the prize, because it's not. And I know. I know Love island, they make money, but $100,000 is not enough to deal with niggas issues and problems. 250 minimum, literally.
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Why doesn't Ozempic work on JD Vance's face?
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What year was that when Tupac showed up to Coachella? Wait, what?
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You uno dependent, uno demanding, and uno defending, but you don't know about how the game's going out here. Girl, they're up over there at Hasbro. But you want to play the old school one or bring, like, the Mario Party.
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And don't play the right rules either. You just gotta.
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So you know that we go way, way back to early YouTube days when it was cute and Kanti.
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Yeah.
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So I definitely want to know your thoughts on our YouTube era versus YouTube today. And tick tock and. Because I'm lost. I'm not. I'm not going.
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I'm so the lost. And you know what it is? I think it's because these sites aren't for fun anymore. Everything has been turned into profit. Right. So, like, when we first started, YouTube was a social media site. Yeah. It's how I met you. It's how I met Cheskali or Francesca Ramsey. It's how I met a whole bunch of other people. It's how I met Duran, you know? Now you go to watch film.
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Yeah.
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Like, you go to watch film, to emote, to watch television. It's a cable channel, not a social network anymore. Yeah, that's one of the things that has changed also. Access. Right. Because everybody is a filmmaker now. Yeah, everybody's a filmmaker. You have it in your phone. You get a 1, 2 cap, cut tutorial Scorsese off this motherfucker.
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And some people are making really great things with these devices. Most people. And by that, I mean, like, 99.7% of ninjas are making nothing worth watching in 8K.
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Yeah. Big slop.
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But it's like you said, like, everyone has these phones now. Apple literally only has a fifth camera to pitch to you every fall.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, now, if you want to shoot Captain America on your iPhone, you can do that. And I just said the other day, like, where are the holograms? Why can't I beat my mama up? What's taking so long?
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What year was that when Tupac showed up to Coachella? Wait a minute.
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What year was that? Like a thousand years ago now.
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Either way, see how far Technology. We've come now n sleep. Then he showed up at Coachella a year like it was crazy. And now niggas are doing the exact same thing through the TikTok studio. Young people don't know how to like, they gotta download. What was the thing? We had the code generator to get like the pri to break the code on whatever Final Cut studio or imovie back in the day. No, it's so much. They get so much stuff given to them for free. I'm a little jealous. I'm not gonna hold you.
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And for any of the Gen A X Element lp. I don't know where we at.
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Grandma makes tacos. Generation tough.
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We got it too.
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Yeah.
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Oh, when I first moved here, gas was $10.
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Listen, everybody's going to have to pay their dues.
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We walked to school.
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Listen, like gay, you know, I paved the way. I told the trade, shoot me.
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This is gonna be as chaotic as
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I hoped it would.
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So you are now part of a beloved and world famous podcast, Jade and xd.
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Yeah.
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How did that start? And how did you become bold enough to do a podcast featuring two of the most chaotic niggas possible?
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Well, you know, like most gay relationships and friendships, they started after a failure. Right? So it was a three. It was a trio. It was me, Jade and a boy I met off Jacked. He's cool now. He cool. He cool. But let's keep it real. We met on Jacked and he was like, hey, I have an idea. And I was like, what's that? He said, I'm thinking about, like, the View, but we're just four men on a mic. I said, do you know that is the worst idea ever. Although, if we fast forwarded like five years, we could have had something. However, we did the show for two years and then he decided to, you know, Latoya and latavia himself.
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Did you send his luggage?
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Yeah, low key. I can't even tell you the details because of kind of what happened. But then two weeks after they decided to excuse themselves, I remember we had a call with Dustin Ross, and Jade was worried about us being just like you and Crystal. And we were like every. We're all different. You know, it's the Internet. We're all.
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Nah.
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And then three hours after that, we recorded our first show together. And 10 years later, here we go. Yeah.
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Yeah. It to me immediately was like, oh, peanut butter and jolly.
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Yeah, like, you know, me and Jade, you know, God bless her, you know, we met so organically. We met at vapianos. I know Rip to the dog.
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Rip to the diva.
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Like, there was the only place you can get pasta.
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Pizza.
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Pizza. Everything else that causes gastro.
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Oh, yeah, baby.
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Violence.
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Oh, yeah.
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But for 16.99.
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Cooked right there.
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Yes.
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Like, you go up, you tell them what pasta you want. They take out the pasta, they cook it right there.
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It's like Chipotle.
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It was like. And now it's like Studio 54. But food.
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Yeah.
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Like, you had to be there.
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Yeah, you had to be there. Now it's. Now everything is being taken over by private equity. And raising canes. I hate that for us. Raising canes.
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What's up there?
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I think. I don't know if I could put my tinfoil hat on a little. I think raising canes is a modality to push whiteness on us. Because. Have you. Have you ever. Have you ever had a meal? Is this sponsored by rating? Okay, great. So have you ever.
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But if you want to give us some money after this period.
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Disgusting. No taste, no flavor. Have you had white food? Disgusting. No taste, no flavor. And they pop up everywhere. Everywhere. Just for no reason. They. They close down mom and pop stores to put up a. What? Chicken with no flavor. With the pink sauce.
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Disgusting. I can remember the first time I heard about raising canes, but it was spoken about as if, like, oh, you have to try this. And it was regional, so it became like this legend. You know, I'm a chicken individual, but I tried it for the first time, I think, when I came here, and I was like, okay, attendee. And then I bit the tendee. And I was like,
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yeah, give me Walmart Dino Nuggies.
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Do you know what it reminded me of? Low key. The legend of In N Out. Keep her. Overrated, really. My God, the girls used to talk. I'm not going to hold you.
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Tell me more. Piss off, California. More.
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Y' all know I love y'. All. The girls used to always talk about In N Out, like, it's the best burger you're gonna have in your life. It is so amazing. No, you have to, have to, have to go. And again, food. Love it.
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Yeah, die about it. Totally, Stan.
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First time I came to la, we went to an In N Out. I did not order for myself. Somebody from here who knew better ordered the animal style, all of that shit.
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Oh, oh, okay. That's where they did you wrong. But okay. They just gave you gout in a. In a basket.
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I was like, okay, it's not a bad burger.
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No.
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Michelle made it seem like I was going to see the curvature of the earth and talk to Jesus, and this is fine.
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Yeah. You know, as a Californian, I grew up with one around the corner from my school, from high school. Right. So I know that people go hard and ham, if you will, for the doll. Yeah. But I, too, agree with you, Big Meh.
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Thank you.
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And you know why? It's because of the fact that I judge all food spots that are of that kind based on their fries. And those fries taste like microplastics.
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No, dead serious.
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Yeah.
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And that's another thing. If he's like, oh, no, don't, don't worry about the fries. The fries aren't that good. No, I, I, I worry about the fries.
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No, no, that, that's important. Like, why. No, you don't go to McDonald's. Anywho. No, it's disgusting. I agree with you. And you know what else? California, we have to be honest with ourselves here. We need to let sandwich spread go.
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Talk about it.
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They put it on every fucking thing. They put it on burgers, wings, people let it go. It's just. And I remember as a kid, like, my grandparents, I think all old people like sandwich spread, brown Listerine and Dettol, But they love that sandwich bread. It's on everything. I'm like, just. What happened to ketchup? You know, she's, she's still, she's still that girl. You know what I mean? What happened to mustard muthar? You know, she's International classics. Exactly. No, we don't need sandwich spread with relish and ketchup and mustard in it. Outlaw.
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Mm. What is. Like, I knew you living in New York, so I grew up, like, we were very close in New York City. Before I lived there, I used to come stay at your house. Um, so being in California, living back and forth or in both places for extended periods of time, I want to know some New York City versus LA hot takes.
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Ooh.
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Yep.
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This is going to be vivi. Controversial.
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Can't wait.
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Also, this is going to lend into. I don't know. So I just got into Threads the other day. For real. For real. And I didn't know you have to, like, type of Dear Abby letter to your algorithm to, like, change shit. That's fucking crazy. It is, but I had to tell them to, like, leave people complaining about L. A. Out of my feed because it's annoying.
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Oh, my God, it's so, like this
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leave or, or go, go back. Go back to, you know, wherever the hell you came from. And I get it, you know, it's an adjustment period. Or whatever. But, like, get some friends. But to your point, I will say LA, and I've said this all the time. LA stops in 1994. It's like you have Melrose Place and the chase, if you know what I mean. Everything is like, you know, looks like a Aaron Spelling did some shit out of it. You know what I mean? Like, all those villas, especially around, like, in Koreatown, like, near the line. It's just like, ooh, these pine trees. And like, you would think, like, Tori Spelling would like coming out of there. She's doing a scene.
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Yeah.
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Or minister society, you know what I mean? So it's like. And. And that's no shade. It's just. And y' all not gonna get me. Like, Ricky
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classic.
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But I think that's one of the major things here is just like, LA stopped in 94. And I like that, though. Don't get me wrong. It's nostalgic. It's home. Whereas New York also feels very. 10 years ahead and ahead of its time, if that makes sense. Like, I often, when I go to events or I don't go to events, we talk about that later. But when I go, I see there's a lot of. I don't want to say clout chasing, because that's a strong word, but there's a lot of clout chasing that would have happened when we were younger or, like getting on the scene in the blogs and stuff. Now I see people try to do the exact same thing we were doing 10, 15 years ago.
B
Mm.
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I know, I know. And New York has better food, so
B
that was. That was a real hot one. Who's the guest that you'd like to have on Jad Jaden xt.
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Jesus. I'mma tell you why.
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Okay.
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Bad pr, right? Like, I would hate for just to. People just misrepresent the doll, right?
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Yeah.
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Like, there's so many people have different opinions. No, he said this. No, he said this. But in this way. No, I need Jesus to come on and, like, set the record straight. Like, how. You know how, like, the Cannon went on Michelle Obama's podcast? Not Nick Cannon. What's the other one? The one that don't like trans people.
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That could be anybody.
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I know. Dave Chappelle.
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Oh, okay.
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There you go. Nick Cannon. Yeah, no, I'm sure. Maybe not. I don't know. You have way too many kids to have any decent ideas. But yeah, just like that. Interview style. One on one. Hey, Jesus Christo. And watch his name. Nobody Mark. Like, you know what I mean? Like, how are we supposed that would
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be so fast, you know? Yeah.
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Like.
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Actually, my name's Devin.
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Yeah, yeah. Devin. Christ.
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Huh? Someone's gonna do that.
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You see it? They're gonna steal it. They're gonna steal it.
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Yes, yes, yes. Who's somebody that you would have on Jaden XD that would probably not enjoy the experience, but they would need it.
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Oh, there's so many. Drake. My girl, Gwyneth Paltrow. Because she needs to be read. She lost her mind. This might seem odd, but LeVar Burton. And it's not because he need. Like there's anything wrong with him. I've seen him in person. He. He is fine. But just to be a part and just to see, oh, this is what the culture is now. You know, he might not enjoy it because we caught. We curse too much, but, you know, just to have a, you know, a finger on the pulse of this. Of a black Americana, if you will. I get you.
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Did you ever watch I Love LA on hbo?
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Try to too white, Too gay. Yeah, yeah. It didn't. Don't like either.
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So not girl or senate or whatever. I like her. I like the. The pretty.
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I like everybody.
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Yeah.
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I'm sorry, Interview or Vulture? If you're watching this, I know you all in cahoots with him.
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I want to play a game with you.
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I love games.
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I'm going to. I saw this from whoever interviewed.
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Oh, I love stealing from Aretha.
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I took it from the Aretha Franklin interview. I'm gonna give you some names, okay. And then I want you to give me a one to three word response, and then we can expand on some of them.
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Oh, Bondabar. Okay. I could do this. I could do this.
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Okay, so first one. Drake.
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Mm. The first thing that comes to your mind. Big energy.
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Tyler.
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Oh, she's cute.
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Future.
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Yikes.
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Perfect.
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Yeah.
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Tyler Perry.
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Hey, diva.
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Nicki Minaj.
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Oh, I can't say that publicly. Be healed.
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Amen. Zoran Mumdani.
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Call me.
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Fine as hell.
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Yeah.
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Spencer Pratt.
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Oh, God. Spencer Pratt. What would I say about him? Evil Chucky doll.
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Yeah. Old ass face.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cardi B. I get emotional talking about Cardi B. Why? Because she has such an amazing story. Like, oh, my God, she has such an amazing story from the Bronx to
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just being a girl from the Bronx.
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Yeah.
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Dancing in a club.
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Dancing in the club, fighting in the street.
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Being funny.
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Having Hennessy as a sister, which that deserves a film in itself. I just. I just feel as though she is. I get emotional talk about her. I get emotional talk about Megan, you know.
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Yeah.
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The people who really inspire us, you know, that's representation we could believe in.
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Oh, Laundry. Alandria.
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Alandria, the woman you are
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living black goddess.
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Yeah. Like. Yeah. You know how, like, when you're. When you're a young gay and, you know, people are like, oh, you know, they want to be this gay boy or whatever. They want to, you know, dance and wear their mama's heels and stuff. They want to be a girl. I'm like, I don't have a crush on her. I want to be them. Like, I want to be Alondria. Not when she was, you know. Yeah. Pretending with the white boy.
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We're past.
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Yeah. Yeah, that was. We were jk.
B
Yeah.
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But, you know, love her.
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Yeah. If. If reincarnation is a thing, bring me back. Jesus.
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Yeah. Devin. Yeah, Devin.
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That's right, Devin. Tyrone Christ Williams.
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Huh?
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India. Ari.
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I knew this was coming.
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Who? I think we're finished. Thank you for participating in that.
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Of course. Of course.
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Have you seen the film One Battle After Another?
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Yeah. Thoughts?
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Ooh.
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You know how earlier we were talking about how, like, it's so fierce now that people could just make anything. People are just making anything, and I think that's so fierce and dangerous, like, I think oftentimes. And you can see this now in media where people are working out their weird psychosexual fantasies and. And stuff, like, on Euphoria. But this is one of those things, right? So I got. I'm watching this, right? And, you know, it takes a lot for me to watch a movie, and so I'm watching this, I'm like, that's not happening. That's not happening. Oh, oh, that's happening. Yeah.
B
Oh, oh, oh, no.
A
Yeah.
B
Instead of one battle after another, I would have called it Maya Rudolph the
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Movie,
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you know, inspired by Maya.
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Maya Rudolph the. The musical.
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Right.
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I would have turned it into a musical if you would have asked me. It would have been weirder to digest.
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Do not tempt them because, you know, Broadway is throwing the girls up.
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If they had a bunch of Puerto Ricans rapping about Andrew Hamilton for a decade, I don't see why we can't have us, you know, singing, you know, to Leonardo DiCaprio, doing stuff. Literally just doing stuff.
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Stuff. Just happening.
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Like, just Netflix is a bunch of just people doing stuff in high def.
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What is with Netflix and just committing to terrible, cheesy dating shows now, like
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movies and things that were strange, you know, it's hard. The dating pool is hard, so I hear. So people, like, like watching Other people struggle. It's like. Like when people watch makeup tutorials. It's like that. Or like when kids watch other people playing video games on the Internet. It's the exact same thing.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Everybody likes watching people be in their habitat and maybe jump on the hood of their car.
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Have you ever watched Love Island? Why does it come on every day?
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I have watched Love Island. I've even gotten sucked back in when I said I wasn't going to. But I watched because you know what? Young people are draining and interesting, but it comes on every day because young people have, like. They have the attention and anything else of a fruit fly, right? So they change their mind and make out with different people with every hour. So there has to be a show every day.
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It's like Big Brother, where you, like, tap in and you're like, oh, well,
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see, here's the problem, Fury. I hate real. I love competition reality shows.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I hate when love is the prized, because it's not. And I know. I know Love island, they make money, but $100,000 is not enough to deal with a nigga's issues and problems, girl. Okay? 250 minimum.
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Literally. I might not get in bed for less than three.
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Hello.
B
Yeah.
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And that's why Big Brother works a little bit more, right? Because of the fact that, hey, these ain't making out every day. But also, they get into the money. Yeah, I like shows when we get to the Onion. Okay.
B
Yeah, I like watching competition, like, alone.
A
Oh, my God, yes. Or Outlast. Now, Netflix had a thing where that white lady started a race war. I remember that shit was crazy. Now, bring that back.
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White people out there making stools and houses out of twigs and berries. Yeah, I love bears.
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Yeah. I love a show where white people whittle. You know what I mean? Like, they do things. That's better than terrorizing black people. So, yes, whittle away. You know, make stuff. Make. Make fire.
B
Also, I love that they'll say things like, oh, we've dropped them in the middle of, like, the Appalachian Mountains or high up in, you know, these hills overseas somewhere. And I'm like, you in upstate New York.
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You're literally in Bakersfield.
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Like, come on.
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Like, all the time. Like, oh, yeah, we're. We're Alaska. It may be true for some of them, but for more often than not, you picked a hill that Burbank that where they have the cross from the Walmart. That's where y' all film.
B
So I know that you have a business in digital consulting and helping people build brands. How did that get started? And what's some of the experiences that you have come across with people who need your help?
A
Oh. Oh, boy. Well, it started a long time ago, actually. There was a director by the name of Patrick Ian Polk who came to me and was like, hey, I have a movie. And I was. And he was like, I just want a Twitter page and maybe a site. And I was like, so you're gonna tell me you're gonna market a whole movie with Twitter? He was like, yeah.
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I was like, no, no, no.
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So we marketed the whole skinny and. Which you could find on Peacock. I think now and over time, I've realized that people are wanting to take over the digital space and they don't know how.
B
Yeah.
A
Or they try to emulate so many people not realizing the amount of hours we put in. You know what I mean? Or the amount of sacrifice, you know? And so oftentimes I'll have to tell people I start up front. If you try to start this to make money, then we knock on, we're not gonna work out.
B
Yeah.
A
Because money is way too hard. Especially nowadays. Money is way too hard to come by in social media and digital stuff.
B
Yes.
A
So you gotta. Is why. I see why people shook and drive on the Internet. Right. But you don't have to do that. But I do think folks need to come in with a different mindset, that this is a new medium, that is a professional medium, and it's going to take some time for you to build on that medium.
B
Yeah. I feel like when we were starting out too, it felt like there was this understanding that it's a marathon.
A
Yeah.
B
And like you said earlier, a lot of us were just having fun. Like.
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Yeah. None of us. We didn't go to school for this. Like, you know what I mean? Just being funny on the Internet. Like. No, but I also. But that also doesn't me to negate or take away the hard work that comes into it. And oftentimes people believe erroneously when they see somebody going viral that they can do it too. Prime example. How many times have you heard two people like, oh, my gosh, we should have. We should have a podcast. Or, like, we're so interesting. We should have people film us all the time.
B
No.
A
Christina, you sit at home watching Drop Dead Diva just like me.
B
Yeah.
A
So you know what I mean? You got to think outside the box. What is this going to mean for you?
B
Right.
A
And you're not going to be like your popular podcasters or people that you have seen, you have to create your own lane. And a lot of people are a little too lazy to think that through. Mm.
B
Are really, really scared.
A
That too. Right. I think it's because of imposter syndrome or because they're so vast and there's no real written rules to this stuff.
B
Yeah.
A
That folks do get scared and folks do get cagey or they do the most outlandish things. It's like, who the fuck told you to do that?
B
Like, yeah.
A
Because you try to make a statement and cut through all the noise on the Internet when you. There's magic and money in just being yourself. And eventually it'll come.
B
I was walking Running Canyon, I don't know, maybe a year or so ago with one of my friends, and we were coming back down the hill, and this little Aladdin boy in drag. Oh, he was like, coming up the opposite way on crutches. And when I, like, several feet away, I was like, oh, he's bald. You know what I mean? He was like, I'm gonna make sure these knees and ankles and stuff works. And then this woman is walking by us and, like, bumps into him and he falls over with the crutches and stuff. And then he starts hollering at her, you bitch. You bitch. And me and me and my homeboy are like, all right, calm down. Like, it was an accident or whatever. And he goes running off the hill. And then they're like, oh, it was a prank.
A
Oh, that's so irritating.
B
And they posted it wherever or whatever. And there was a couple of comments, were like, isn't that fury? I'm like, girl, so what is it? First of all, terrible prank wasn't funny. Didn't make any sense.
A
I hate a prank. I hate pranks. Because where's the joke?
B
Where. Where's the let it be funny, right? Like, God bless those half dead white people on Jackass when they would, like, pull out a giant punching glove.
A
They pulled out a catapult and you knew what time it was. Right. That's the bag of the joke. Yeah. Yes.
B
Stapling your balls to, like, a bee's nest is different, though.
A
Yeah.
B
I do agree, though, that, like, nowadays a lot of people watch their faves or they watch viral people. I think maybe they get this idea that it can happen really quickly or like, oh, I can do that too. Let me do it like that. And I always say to people who, at least in podcasting, because it is very common, oh, I can do this. I'm funny. Whatnot. Sure. Don't do what someone else is doing. If you are so passionate about peanut butter or, you know, open toed sandals.
A
Yes. Underwater basket weaving.
B
Yes. Talk to us about that. That is what you do.
A
Yeah.
B
Because there are going to be other people out there who are also interested in it and be like, oh, finally, the underwater basket weaving pod.
A
Yeah. There are plenty of people named Beth who are waiting for that.
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Everybody gotta talk about stuff on Diggs, bitch.
A
No. And more importantly, I think if you're gonna do digital stuff, you have to keep your eye on what's happening.
B
Right.
A
And more importantly, what's not happening? What are the conversations that aren't happening? That's the one thing I. First word of advice or anything. When I first got started, I said, let me pay attention to all the people. I think at the time AlphaCat was starting and these are YouTubers and all that stuff. And I was like, let me pay attention to what they're doing, what they're not doing, and what has been the most beneficial is what they didn't do. And I took heed to. Yeah, but everybody's so gung ho about beating the next so and so be the next you.
B
Yeah. You know, that's how I. That's how shit black gays say happened on my YouTube channel.
A
Yeah.
B
Because I saw a few of them. Obviously Francesca Ramsey like towed that up
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and switched the game. Absolutely.
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But I saw like shit gay say. And I was like, no one's going to do a black one. We don't say none of this. None of like, we. We don't say any of this. So let me just clear the record real quick. And that's how that happened. What are you not saying and doing?
A
Exactly. Fill in a gap. People are waiting for you. Exactly. People are waiting. And also people are way more going to be invested in things that you're passionate about. Exactly. Like again, if you're into underwater basket weaving and that is your shiznai, you
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might convince me like, oh, this shit's off on.
A
Exactly. Exactly.
B
Now I'm not going too deep underwater. Not in the ocean. Like we could do it in a
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pool or something like that. The deep sea girl.
B
That is not my neighborhood. What is something black folks should let go of this year?
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Oh, there's so many.
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Mine are uno poisoned by Bel Biv Devoe, Casamigos and phone positives. Oh my gosh.
A
I wanted to talk to you about this so bad. I agreed with you so hard. Thank you. With the. And it's not that I'm anti Uno. Let's make that be very clear. I'm not anti Uno. I'm not anti faze 10. I'm not anti Spades. I think they are important, pivotal, integral things to us as a people and community. And I do believe that we as the people could play other games. Like I love. I love. Well, they. It's not secret. It's secret whatever anymore. You can't use the H word anymore.
B
We can't just say secret
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Hitler, but
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you can't say it anymore.
A
But, yeah, shit like that, right? Mafia or Moosemaster. Shit like that, right? Like, there's so many other games we could play. Let's play Mahjong. I'm tired of playing fucking Uno.
B
Can we connect four?
A
Connect the fuck.
B
Okay, I will play Guess who in this bitch.
A
Yes, there's Caresha.
B
Please, the options.
A
There's so many.
B
First stop.
A
There's so many games. Uno all the time. What happened to Chutes and Ladders?
B
Sorry. The classics.
A
The classics. Every nigga got a. What's the shit? I got the switch. Now plug that up. Play Monopoly, the Game of Life, all on there.
B
Mortal Kombat. Can we do a Mario Kart?
A
Bitch, like so many other things that we can be doing outside of
B
reheating
A
these nachos, such as Uno Phase 10. And I get. Phase 10 is invented by a black man. That's great.
B
But I almost lost all my friends over phase 10. And you know, that's.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
But I can't help but. And then niggas don't even have in, like, the Uno spin offs. There's fluke Uno.
A
There's giant Uno. There's. There's so many different UNO's brutal UNO. Even my mama got was. She got the extreme Bruno Uno, where you could have like, plus 25 cards and shit like that. I'm like, okay, do that.
B
I just put niggas onto Liars Uno. I'm sorry, Liars Uno. Basically, Uno. But then there's like a concept where some cards are flipped upside down and you can bluff your way around it. Gagged the set, bitch. So how are you so Uno dependent, Uno demanding, and Uno defending? But you don't know about how the game's going out here, girl. Why are you not checking out the Uno market?
A
Oh, my God.
B
They're fucking shit up over there at Hasbro. But you want to play the old school one or bring like, the Mario
A
and don't play the right rules either. You just get it. Do you have something that you think niggas should let go of? Oh, yeah. Facebook.
B
Why are niggas still doing it?
A
You know, I don't know. Creatures of habit, creature. But I think I don't. I understand. I Mother's Day, I went to go visit my mother. We having a wang dang. We have, you know, love. It's fine. She says something off the wall. She said. And it was. It was in relationship to Megan. Thee stallion. What I want to say. My mother's almost 70. And I was like, where are you? Why are you asking me about this? And she said, well, I saw it on the. I said, give me your phone. I went and blocked about 10 different sites. You have to do it. Fox News, whatever the fuck. This, that, and the third. And I was like, here you go. She was like, were you texting somebody? Phone? I was like, mm, mm. Protecting you and me because A, you don't need to consume all that nonsense, and B, you're not gonna bother me with all that nonsense.
B
That is brilliant.
A
You got to raise. Train up your parents in the way in which they should go.
B
I'm gonna block my pages first.
A
Cause let's be very honest.
B
You were a TEDx speaker in 2015.
A
I was.
B
And you spoke about pettiness.
A
Yeah.
B
One of my favorite things about living.
A
Yeah.
B
What's one of the pettiest things you ever done?
A
Start my YouTube channel. Continue jaded XD with that nigga left. No petty. For real.
B
For real.
A
Pettiness. Pettiness.
B
Actually, I think of what the pettiest thing I've ever.
A
That's a good question. What's the Chinese?
B
There's so many things.
A
There's so many things I have. Huh? That's a good question.
B
I don't.
A
I. I have so many. There's so many things. But I.
B
Maybe calling that girl the gag is for, like, five years.
A
That's petty.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Um, Probably. No, I do think. I think the ultimate petty thing was starting this whole journey because of the fact that it's all started because I said I could. I was funnier than he was. So I was like, this guy broke with me in a text message, blah, blah, blah. Then we went to the same school system, and a few months later, I saw he was on Facebook, the devil making YouTube videos. And I was like, oh, girl, I could do that. I'm funnier. Then for whatever reason, I hit him up. I was like, teach me how to do what you're doing. For whatever reason. He was super apologetic about what happened. He was super eager to teach me. I was like, okay, cool. He came over, installed a Door in my house. But he came over, he taught me everything. And then I didn't talk to him for like a whole year. And after that. So are you from Miami originally? That is a. Could possibly be. Could possibly be. But hey, I think he. I think he's still alive. He should be.
B
What do you think of Spend that by Young Miami Caresha? Young Miami. I don't remember how I say
A
I think great. Right song, wrong person.
B
Why?
A
You know Karisha, you know, she got a, you know, wrestling, got a lot of heat on her, you know what I mean? There's a lot of stuff going on surrounding her in the middle part. But I feel as though if this came from somebody else, you know, Everybody loves the message. Just wrong messenger, you know?
B
I think of rappers from Miami
A
that
B
closely remind me of how many boosting bitches and scamming ass niggas reside there. It's her.
A
Yeah. Yeah. What's that? Rapstress that was that had beef with Kya. That always has down at the flea market. Jackie O. No, she got saved. Oh, you talking about sitting on that hoe? I put that. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
B
That ilk work like this is geisha.
A
A time in a pocket in the community. Yeah, blogging days were so t. I miss it.
B
Why doesn't ozempic work on jd vance's face?
A
The same reason you don't have a wife with three kids. It's the way God wants it.
B
I agree.
A
Could you imagine? First of all, don't prescribe that couch fucker anything like, you know what I mean? Like I. If you were to go in the dictionary and like punchable work, like, like it's like right there.
B
You know how sometimes they would say in high school, like, you just look like you need to get your lunch money stolen?
A
Yeah, I've never.
B
That's always seemed ridiculous to me. JD Vance, he does look like it would be just either impossible or a steep challenge to not strike him.
A
Yeah. Like if he wasn't in politics, he looks like he would run a fierce discord like for Minecraft.
B
Skyrim.
A
Yeah.
B
Warcraft.
A
Yeah, that type of shit.
B
Yeah.
A
Where six year olds say nigger, you know?
B
Yes. And that all women should die or whatever.
A
Yeah. All seven years old.
B
Do you know that there are like 10 year olds walking up to these streamers and saying like, women are. Are bitches and sluts and they should, they should all work and they should belong in the kitchen because streamers just go on air and say whatever ridiculous outlandish shit for numbers. There's a clip I think Francesca brought posted, like, on her on her podcast of this streamer, who was approached by these children and gagged because they were saying gay people faggots.
A
And that's fucking crazy. But you know what? Good on him. Because you know why? Because. Ooh, I don't know how deep I can go.
B
Please.
A
Parents need to reckon with the idea that they may or may not be raising a school shooter.
B
Thank you.
A
And as soon as they realize that, the sooner they will become an active parent. I know everybody makes the joke, grandmas make tacos now, but whatever the fuck. I've never heard of that. Grandmas are my age and I'm 40. Okay.
B
Like, no, I get it.
A
I agree. Yeah. But, like, folks are so hands off now with parenting.
B
Yeah.
A
And I get, like, it's partially because the world is fucking awful and everybody's in this hamster wheel and everybody's broke and having to like, make money to end me, make ends meet and stuff like that. So I get it.
B
It's hard.
A
It's very hard to parent a child in this world. But it's not hard to be nosy.
B
Come on.
A
Like, I oftentimes like my mother, you know, boomer parents, you know, they weren't necessarily helicopters. It was very hands off. But she's also. What you're doing, would you do what you doing? All right? Literally, that kind of thing. Literally. That's all you need to do. Like, there is no reason why, you know, little Timmy is logging on, calling somebody a nigger who's also 7 year old white boy. Like, you know what I mean? Or going up to a streamer in public, spewing all sorts of red pill content and. And whatever the fuck, you know what I mean? Like, that's fucking crazy. All this could be eradicated if would, you know, put hinge down, try to find a man or wife or whatever the fuck, and pay attention to your kid.
B
We all love 90 Day Fiance. Everyone loves love after lockup.
A
Yes. But girl. Yeah.
B
What is Timothy doing over in that room?
A
Yeah.
B
Because to your point, if I had a journal that I wrote, like, Ms. Walker is a bitch. And I cemented that journal in like the patio in the backyard, my mother would. I would come home from school the next day and my mother would be sitting in the front with a sledgehammer in my journal and go, what is this?
A
You'd be back in Jamaica.
B
Nosy. Yeah, nosy. But guess what? I never did shot anybody at school.
A
Yeah, listen, they got kids, niggas skinning cats but, you know, saw Gentle paradise. Like, you know what I mean? And I'm not saying you got to beat your kids. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying parents need to put their own phones down.
B
Yeah.
A
And just pay attention to what their child is doing right now. Partially. The parents believe in this shit too, and that's another issue. But for the most part. Put your phone down. See what little Yesenia is up to.
B
Yeah.
A
Check in with the dog.
B
Yeah. They are here watching anything. Any. And it really is streamers and YouTubers raising these kids.
A
Yeah.
B
That's where they're getting their identities.
A
Yeah. I would hate. Hate to be like, where did you learn this from Kaisten. Ah, that's crazy. And also, I was raised by. I show speed. Do you know how nuts that sounds?
B
I shall speed over in the motherland dancing.
A
And yeah, he is. He kind of fine now. But that's neither here or there. The point is, put the folk down. Putting your kid up.
B
Yeah. I couldn't agree more. Did you see, like yesterday we're talking about this? Northwest is going on tour with this girl, Molly Santana. She's touring almost every date in August.
A
What is Northwest? What does Northwest do? Is she raps or something?
B
I don't know.
A
Oh, she's a recording artist.
B
She's going to be performing music. Northwest turned 13 on Monday. I said, girl, there's like, supporting your. Your children in their passions and their interests. And then there's also child labor. Telling your child, sit your ass down somewhere.
A
Yeah.
B
Both can be true. Yeah.
A
And I'm, you know, I love a summer job. Now, don't get me wrong, I love a summer job, but I also.
B
What?
A
That's so fucking ridiculous. This is how, you know, parents are like. There's one thing, because this is about to be a double standard. I will say this because I'm not going to talk about this child. There are children of celebrities who have proven to us that they are a generational talent and which gives them the license to perhaps maybe perform on a grand stage with the parent or to whatever. Again, proving and continuously pushing the bar of excellence. They're child celebrities.
B
Yeah.
A
And then we have others who, you know, dramatized. Should be a little leather couch. You know what I mean? They got parents who are also famous, but also a little whacked out. Yeah. And also you haven't proved to us diva that you are generational teller.
B
At least Brian McKnight ain't her daddy.
A
You know, I block. I like, report him every day.
B
Me too.
A
Like, every time I feel upset, I have, like, I just report him.
B
Like Catherine o'. Hara.
A
But not like. And you all should, too. Horrible human being.
B
Okay, drums or flats
A
each other?
B
Wow.
A
This is anti black drums.
B
Why?
A
Tactically, it's easier to eat. I don't like. I don't like messy hands. And so, like, if I can control the mess factor, I'll just use the drum. And it's easier to eat that way. And it's easier to dip sauce, too.
B
My answer is just chicken.
A
No, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. But if you're gonna give me, you know, hold me up against the wall and stuff, you know, then the drums,
B
I will make a way when it comes to chicken.
A
Same.
B
And my. My old college homeboy, Alan. Hi, Alan.
A
He used to.
B
He taught me this trick. I'm still not as good at it as he is. You could take a wing and, like, snap off one end and then the other, and then just pull all the meat.
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, I did. I learned that in college. I used to be. Back in the day, I used to have white friends. Okay. You know, we all experiment in college. Yeah, of course.
B
That's how I got into Insane Clown Posse.
A
Yeah. Me, hockey. So, like, also, I've learned that whites are very, very giving in their season. For example, it was hockey season, and at the time, Buffalo Wild Wings wasn't like, private equity owned and everything. You had like, 10 cent wings on Tuesdays or whatever. Yeah, yeah, they. Listen, Steve, there was a. Tyler, there was a mark. No, you're good, you're good. Your money's no good here. I know it's not. Thank you. Have me a wing and a Pabst.
B
Okay.
A
Yes. Yeah, I'll.
B
A sharp pass.
A
Yeah. I'll suck this nasty ass beard down. And what did I have to pay? 0.99.
B
Ooh, those 10 cent Tuesdays. I will walk out of that. Buffalo Wild Wings like this.
A
Yeah, listen, swole, like gout is my middle name.
B
Swolen.
A
All for $20.
B
Bloated man. Gosh, I just love chicken.
A
I love chicken. You know, I recently reduced. Reduced my beef consumption, so now it's primarily chicken. And now I've. There's even more appreciation for chicken. Right. Because it could be transformed into so many different things. Yeah. And now that I am forced to transform it into so different, different things, it unlocks creativity, which I really enjoy.
B
But, yeah, there's so many ways to do things. This is getting.
A
Bubba should have went. It shouldn't have bubblegum shrimp. It should have been bubblegum chicken and coke.
B
Why have they done a spin off? At least by now?
A
Racism.
B
That's actually the facts. I rode by a Jollibee the other day, and I realized that because I've never been.
A
And I know Kamusta cannot Tagalog friends in Filipino burgers.
B
Spaghetti. And the spaghetti part, that plucked me a bit because I was like, what? And then the streets put me on to the fact that it is like a.
A
A Philippines. It's called Chick. Yeah. It's a. It's a Filipino thing. Their spaghetti is rather sweet, I will say, but they call their chicken Chicken Joy for a reason.
B
That's Chicken Joy.
A
Mm.
B
There's one on the way home.
A
Mm. Mm. Trust me, you won't. You won't regret it.
B
And what we could use these days is Joy. What do you have coming up?
A
Not dying. What do I. I am relaunching my YouTube channel.
B
Work.
A
Yeah. I had to a. I got hacked a few years ago. Yeah. And I got taken down. And so I got really, really depressed. You know, like, what am I going to do?
B
I know that feeling.
A
And then. So I leaned in more into the podcast and stuff. But now I think it's time for me to spread my wings again. And. Because I had a substack and it was cool and. And things, but I think it's time to come back home. What I know as home, even though YouTube now is a just a hub for Lucasfilms, but I know that it's the space that's been most comfortable. It's what I know. It's also the most free space. And I think oftentimes we get. A lot of folks get so bogged in paywall and stuff like that, but ultimately it's the free shit that got us over.
B
Yeah.
A
And that's what I really want to do is refocus and try to make shit more fun. Because the Internet is also really dark nowadays. But try to make more fun and. But also accessible.
B
Yeah. You know, so in terms of hitting the YouTube streets again. Yeah. What do you think about this term? Smash that, like, button. Smash that notification bell? Because I. I feel like smash. There's something like predatory about it.
A
Yeah.
B
Just like click or.
A
Yeah. I don't. I. I actually don't like when people say it at all.
B
I hate it.
A
Like, I hate. It's kind of like when people talk about sex house. People refer to all sex terms are very violent or tend to be violent. But I also, in this regard. Right. Like, smash that, like, button Smash and like, what is this? So need to be hyper aggressive.
B
Yeah.
A
And I think that's part of, like, manosphere, tinfoil hair, Manosphere vocab and content trickling through.
B
I could see that, you know. Yeah.
A
Smash that, like, button.
B
It'll be back tomorrow with new bacon crusted gummy bears.
A
Yeah, it's. It's very. It's very masculine to say mash that. And we click that or tap that. You know, that's very. Not bro. Right? But when somebody says mash that are like. Or like, what I hate in. One of the things I dislike in food in general is how restaurants will try to relate to you and be like, come get this big dick burger. And it's like, what happened to calling it just a double cheeseburger? Like, you know what I mean? And so I just wish. Yeah, do. Let me tell you something. They have dude wipes. I did not know that. Having a clean hole. Well, no, I didn't know because men remind you all the time that wiping is for the facts. But I. I just.
B
That's why they tongues white
A
and you know. And again, this goes back to, like, sexuality not being a choice or anything. Like, it's like people are willingly laying down with other folks who don't participate in regular hygienic stuff, all for the sake of not being lonely or for a baby.
B
I love being by my damn self, regardless of whether I have a man or not. So the idea of putting up with poor hygiene with an adult, I refuse. I'm never gonna do it.
A
Yeah.
B
So I would even backpedal and say, call them wipes, whatever you want to, as long as you're using them.
A
Call them wipes. Call bro towels,
B
whatever it takes.
A
Handkerchiefs, I don't know. But whatever gets rid of the funk and the stink. I was. I was on the Internet earlier and they were talking about how, you know, the gays, you know, they all smell good. I was like, don't let the smooth taste fool you. Some of these niggas stink. I've been to trunks.
B
Tell the truth.
A
I've been to the devil. I've been to that place that should be burned down. What's the. What's the place that sells the drinks that poisoned you? The Abbey.
B
Oh, the Abbey.
A
Yeah. Smelled niggas in there too.
B
Really? West Hollywood.
A
Yeah. Really? A lot of smell. And a lot of them serve or alcohol. But yeah,
B
the other day, you know, it was like, we hope ride or whatever.
A
Yeah, it was. Did you go?
B
I told everyone who asked that I would rather be found dead right here.
A
Like, yes, have a tarantula lay eggs in my ear than rather go brrr.
B
If it was like a. A huge portion of us out there, maybe. But I'm like, we already know how WeHo gives it up. And white WeHo gays are like, my sixth circle of hell.
A
Yeah.
B
Right next to airports.
A
Yeah. Yeah. I can't do it. Yeah. One of my friends had a talk. Cause he came out with a book and he was like, are you coming? I was like, ooh. No. Primarily because the fact that, like, pride is for young people or old people. We always talk about pride for young people. Pride is also for old people.
B
Pride is for young people who can do it. And pride is for old people who deserve it.
A
Diapers. To diapers. Old. And to remember with that on that
B
fucking note, bitch, I don't know. It's getting better than that. XD thank you for gracing the podcast this week.
A
Thank you for having us.
B
Ghetto rude and deep as I hoped it would be. Yeah, I'm sorry, folks at home, where they can find you.
A
Well, you could find me every Friday at Jaden xd, wherever you get your podcasts. You could find just me, Xavier Dalo, anywhere on the Internet doing random things. YouTube channel. You can even subscribe now at the XDXP Spirits. What's up now? That's right. But yeah, that's where I'm at.
B
Well, folks, once again, this is Kid Fury. Furious Thoughts. Thank you for joining me. Make sure that you follow subscribe and you smash that, like, button our notification bell. Whatever. The same shit that everybody. I do this every week. Whatever. Come back, subscribe, comment. Hey, girl.
A
All right. And now this is the point where
B
we do, like, the slow talk show thing where it seems like we're still talking.
A
Oh, yeah. Praise Devin. There we go.
This episode of Furious Thoughts brings together the hilarious and insightful chemistry of Kid Fury (Host, CAKE MEDIA) and Xavier D’Leau. Together they reflect on the evolution of internet culture from early YouTube to today, dissect the state of digital creativity, reminisce about food and regional culture wars, roast pop culture, discuss the realities of social media fame, and explore generational shifts within the Black community. The result is an engaging, candid, chaotic, and comedic ride through nostalgia, current events, and wisdom from two veteran internet voices.
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