On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship. First on the show is Thomas A. Berry, director of the Cato Institute’s Robert A. Levy Center for Constitutional Studies and editor in chief of the Cato Supreme Court Review. Later, we hear from Richard A. Epstein, Laurence A. Tisch Professor of Law at NYU School of Law and author of the book The Myth of Birthright Citizenship: What the Fourteenth Amendment Really Says. You can find Thomas on X @Thomas_A_Berry and Richard at @RichardAEpstein.