1/13 Minnesota has developed a culture that is essentially anti-Law Enforcement

Summary

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Garage Logic Podcast: "Minnesota has developed a culture that is essentially anti-Law Enforcement"

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor"), with Chris Reivers, Kenny Olson, John Height, Matthew

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Overview

This episode of Garage Logic zeroes in on what host Joe Soucheray describes as a pronounced cultural shift in Minnesota: a move towards widespread suspicion, skepticism, and even open hostility toward law enforcement and traditional authority. The conversation springs from the resignation of key federal prosecutors involved in investigating local fraud and escalates to a broader critique of state leadership, sanctuary sentiment, and recent ICE actions in Minnesota. Throughout, the panelists weigh the origins, manifestations, and implications of this anti-law enforcement climate, interspersing analysis with biting humor, personal anecdotes, and characteristic "GL" neighborliness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Federal Prosecutors Resign (04:12–11:00)

• Joe Thompson and several senior U.S. attorneys resign suddenly in Minnesota. Thompson was pivotal in prosecuting major fraud and high-profile cases.
• Notable Quote:
  "Our state is far and away the leader in fraud, and everyone sees it." – (Joe Soucheray quoting Thompson)
• The resignation sparks speculation—was it burnout, disagreements over federal intervention, or disillusionment with Minnesota's political culture?

Timestamps:

• [04:12] News of Thompson's resignation and related departures
• [07:36] Discussion on possible motivations (federal overreach, frustration, internal politics)

2. When Did Minnesota Go "Off Its Axis"? (10:11–14:00)

• Joe delivers a lengthy analysis, attributing the anti-law enforcement culture to the aftermath of the George Floyd protests.
• Defunding police gains popularity; officer attrition goes unchecked; city leaders show open suspicion toward policing.
• Critique extends to the "sanctuary" sentiment, even though no official Sanctuary State legislation exists.

Timestamps:

• [10:11] "Let's try to put everything in context..."
• [13:00] The connection between George Floyd protests and defunding trends

3. The Rise of Law Enforcement Contempt and Sanctuary Sentiment (11:26–17:54)

• City leaders—particularly in Minneapolis and Duluth—are highlighted as pivotal in fanning anti-police views.
• Soucheray describes Minnesota as a "comfortable place for immigrants, legal or illegal," due to unofficial policies.
• Notable Quote:
  "There is a culture in Minnesota that is slid into disrepair by virtue of abandoning any respect whatsoever for law enforcement." – Joe Soucheray ([16:33])

4. Public Reaction to ICE and Federal Actions (17:54–22:39)

• The presence of ICE agents prompts public outcry, whistleblowing, and snowball-throwing at agents.
• Soucheray and team argue that ICE is now a symbol of "Trumpian enforcement," heightening resistance in a state that "disregards authority."

Timestamps:

• [17:54] ICE discussed as a catalyst for public protest
• [22:06] Kenny Olson brings up protesters clashing with each other

5. Law, Authority, and Anarchy (22:39–24:00)

• Both sides of the political spectrum allegedly fan flames of unrest.
• Soucheray laments lost neighborliness and declining respect even for routine law enforcement, contextualizing Minneapolis and Minnesota as emblematic of national discord.

6. Somali Community, Temporary Protected Status, and Political Ramifications (24:00–29:24)

• Trump Administration's revocation of Temporary Protected Status for Somalis draws ire; Minnesota's unique demographic is central.
• Soucheray says Minnesota leaders "will use this and fraud will become forgotten."
• Keith Ellison and Governor Walz are criticized for spending more effort suing the federal government than prosecuting fraud.
• [29:45] Matthew: "We saw this coming... with the Walz press conferences."
• [31:03] Soucheray: "They've done a damn thing about fraud."

Notable Exchange:

• "Ellison has done more hard work in the last 48 hours to sue the government than he's done in eight years pursuing fraud." – Joe Soucheray ([30:55])

7. ICE Operations and Public Perception (33:24–37:57)

• Soucheray argues ICE should have acted with more discretion, targeting only dangerous criminals.
• Local police are described as unable or unwilling to participate due to legislative and cultural pressures.
• The hosts predict further escalation and possible violence if the cultural trajectory continues.
• Notable Prediction:
  "There'll be more deaths if this continues. Well, how could it be otherwise?" – Joe Soucheray ([36:32])

8. GL Ethos in the Face of Culture War (37:36–39:00)

• Garage Logic is presented as a bastion of "convention, tradition, law enforcement obeying the law."
• The panel reminisces about a neighborly Minnesota and laments its perceived loss in metro areas.

9. Further News: Fallout from the ICE Shooting and Lawsuits (44:03–50:53)

• John Height covers additional details: multiple resignations, DOJ pressuring investigations into victims’ widows, and more ICE arrivals prompting lawsuits from city and state.
• Former Governor Arne Carlson rails against unchecked federal power, invoking Nazi Germany in his analogy.
  • “Now close your eyes and vision Germany in 1937 and witness the Gestapo prowling the streets...” – Arne Carlson (via John Height, [49:39])

10. Community and Political Division in Minnesota (50:53–52:00)

• Tensions around ICE detentions spread to private businesses (Target incident).
• Minnesota’s leadership is described as "selectively enforcing laws unrecognizable" to prior generations.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• "I think there is a culture here of anti-law enforcement. Once you lose that, everything's anarchy, everything's up in the air."
  – Joe Soucheray ([21:48])

• "The view of the public... is that these are evil Trump invaders."
  – Joe Soucheray on ICE ([36:07])

• "We have a governmental culture in Minnesota that will do everything it can to prevent them being gone."
  – Joe Soucheray ([35:28])

• "Both sides are doing everything possible to have us, the voting hardworking public, at each other's throats."
  – Matthew ([31:57])

• "Let me repeat, it's compounded by ICE having been dispatched here by Trump who did not win Minnesota and is loathed by the Minnesotans who didn't vote for him."
  – Joe Soucheray ([23:32])

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Key Segment Timestamps

• [04:12]: Breaking news about prosecutor resignations
• [10:11]–[17:54]: Soucheray’s soliloquy on Minnesota's anti-authority culture
• [22:06]: Protesters vs. Counter-Protesters
• [24:00]–[29:24]: Somali TPS debate and fraud conflation
• [44:03]: John Height news segment: Details from the New York Times and Gov. Carlson statement

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The Garage Logic Perspective

• The hosts project a nostalgic vision of Minnesota—neighborly, law-abiding, respectful—that they feel is being eroded by current politics and policies.
• Criticism is directed at both political sides for fueling tribal conflict but is especially pointed toward the current state administration and local DFL leadership.
• The show demonstrates skepticism toward new progressive movements and leaders, with repeated references to the George Floyd era as a turning point.

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Tone & Original Language

• Conversational, sardonic, and occasionally exasperated.
• Joe Soucheray often uses humor and rhetorical exaggeration to underscore points.
• The banter is interspersed with occasional off-topic, light-hearted digressions—giving listeners the sense of being part of a group “at the bar” or in the garage.

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Closing

The episode concludes with lighter fare—“what cultural widget would you own if money were no object?”—but the core remains a stark assessment: Minnesota’s leadership and culture have, in the view of the hosts, built an environment where law enforcement is vilified, authority is mistrusted, and neighborhood cohesion is undermined. Listeners wishing for a return to “Garage Logic” common sense are urged to remain vigilant—and perhaps, like the hosts, to keep talking with their neighbors, regardless of differences.

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For a complete, timestamped breakdown of the episode’s main political discussion, refer to segments between [04:12] and [39:00].

Transcript

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[Chris Reivers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Sushore]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the Crabby coffee Shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the RO Here is your Flashlight King, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Sushore. New word alert. New word alert.

[Chris Reivers]

Do we have a sounder for that?

[Joe Sushore]

No, but it's gonna reach fog hornable stage. Surge. Surge. Every single reporter in town is gonna start to use the word surge five times in a story.

[Kenny Olson]

Tell me what surge means used correctly.

[Joe Sushore]

I've hardly ever used it.

[John Height]

A wave.

[Chris Reivers]

Like a wave.

[Joe Sushore]

But it's now being used with ice enforcement. A surge is underway. So you watch. You watch. Mind the old mayor's words. Surge is going to become your new iconic. And the rest of these.

[Chris Reivers]

May I ask a few questions?

[Joe Sushore]

And everything else.

[Chris Reivers]

As a journalist, which one bothers you more? As if a reporter was to use Surge or update?

[Joe Sushore]

Uptick. It'll be. It'll. It'll. It's joining the ranks of uptick.

[John Height]

Okay.

[Joe Sushore]

I. I would. I would be favorably opposed to both of them. Do you favorably oppose. Does that even make sense?

[Chris Reivers]

He got on. You dug yourself a hole. Do you remember the soft drink Surge?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew]

He was in favor of being. Yeah, it does make sense.

[Joe Sushore]

In this. Just in. Have this ready.

[John Height]

God, you were so smooth.

[Kenny Olson]

I thought you were having a.

[Chris Reivers]

Wait, is that a break? Are we taking a break?

[Joe Sushore]

No, it's breaking. New breaking news.

[Kenny Olson]

Seizure.

[Chris Reivers]

But.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I got it. I think he wants to break.

[Joe Sushore]

Nobody saw me do that. Did they break?

[John Height]

No.

[Matthew]

Are you having a seizure?

[Joe Sushore]

This is from Joe. Joe wrote me this. Breaking news. The Safari restaurant has announced a grand reopening for the next two weeks to feed all the Minneapolis school kids while the schools are closed. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Now what do we got? Food fraud.

[Chris Reivers]

Speaking of the restaurants, in case you guys discussed this in my absence yesterday, the list of the restaurants that have shut down.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

Wow, it's growing. Yeah, that'll happen.

[Kenny Olson]

Who's gonna feed all the kids?

[Joe Sushore]

That's just in. And it's real. Breaking news. Joe Thompson has resigned.

[Chris Reivers]

Are you kidding?

[Joe Sushore]

Much to our loss, I would say no reason has been given, although he has been. Well, let me see if I can parse this out. Thompson's resignation was followed by other senior members of his office, including Assistant U.S. attorney Harry Jacobs, who was instrumental in prosecuting the Feeding Our Future trial and was part of the team prosecuting Vance Bolter for his politically motivated rampage that killed Melissa Hortman and her husband. Assistant U.S. attorney Melinda Williams is also among the departures. He covered high profile cases during his brief tenure, which began only in May, of just this last May. God Almighty. Got a lot done, didn't he? Thompson has been most notable for uncovering fraud throughout the state. He's a native, by the way. He's from Osseo. I wish he'd stay and run for governor. He could save this state. Our state is far and away the leader in fraud, and everyone sees it, Thompson told the Star Tribune editorial board last year. He claimed. He has claimed that fraud is in the billions. In a statement, Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o' Hara lamented the loss of Thompson. The legitimacy of the justice system depends on institutions, not rhetoric, o' Hara said. Joe Thompson is an institution within law enforcement. O' Hara said the fact that Thompson is leaving at the same time that the federal government is using fraud investigation to justify a what of ICE Agents. Sir. Thank you. I told you it's going to be everywhere.

[Matthew]

You skipped a couple of words. He said the fact that he is leaving is notable.

[Joe Sushore]

But.

[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah, that is very, very notable.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. When you lose the leader response. Okay. When you lose the leader responsible for making the fraud cases, it tells you this. Immigration enforcement isn't really about prosecuting fraud, O' Hara said in an internal email. Minnesota's U.S. attorney Rosen directed staff to say nothing about the FBI investigation into the shooting of Renee Good. Say nothing specifically to law enforcement and Media. Only Assistant U.S. attorneys designated by him may speak to investigators about the federal probe. The shooting investigation is highly sensitive, Rosen wrote. It has been the subject of continuing inflammatory statements by state and local elected officials. What is your take? I have my take, but I can only take a guess at it. I have no firm.

[Matthew]

What is your take on the chief's assumptions?

[Joe Sushore]

The chief's assumptions strike me as he's very sorry to lose Thompson because Thompson validated the work that police do. He took his role seriously. He prosecuted people. And I think the chief is saying that we could have counted on Thompson to prosecute this ICE case. But I'm just putting words in o' Hara's mouth, which is not fair of me, so I won't. I'll just say I think what o' Hara might have meant was I think the word has come down from the top in Washington to don't let Minnesotans handle this oh, shooting case. Let's leave this completely in the hands of my cash. Patel, FBI.

[Matthew]

Oh, boy. My brain didn't go there at all. My brain went to the fact that he was somehow alluding to the fact that the federal government, using this case against fraud, are using this case against fraud to justify the increase in these ICE arrests. And somehow this doesn't sit right with Thompson. That's where my brain went.

[John Height]

That's the way I took it, too.

[Joe Sushore]

Well. Okay. That would have nothing to do with Thompson, though. Why. Why do you got to. Why would Thompson resign?

[Matthew]

Why indeed?

[Chris Reivers]

Could it just be a matter of he's just saying there's no end to this and he's just fed up. You don't think that plays a role?

[Matthew]

No, no, no. That's the. No end to it is job security.

[Chris Reivers]

That's true. Yeah. That's a good point.

[John Height]

Something is under obviously his craw and the other people who resigns. Craw. It's not just we're all going to.

[Joe Sushore]

Resign at once or.

[Matthew]

You remember when the federal government found out about all this fraud, they Decided to appoint their own investigators. So is that.

[Joe Sushore]

That Thompson's a federal appointment.

[Matthew]

I know, but now there's multiple agencies investigating this. And is that sticking in his craw?

[Chris Reivers]

Too many cooks in the kitchen?

[Matthew]

I don't know. The problem with not saying why is we're out here making these wild speculations.

[Joe Sushore]

He promised me a couple times to come on the show, and I've been unsuccessful in getting him to fulfill that. Maybe now he will be fun now.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

Let's try to put everything in context. You know, we've been sitting here the last few days, few weeks, few months, few years, wondering what happened to the state, because I think no matter where you are in the political spectrum, there's a definite vibe that this state is off balance. It's off its. It's off its axis. It's not working properly. And I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this. And I think. I think. I think it started with the George Floyd weekend. Now, it may have started before that, but not significantly. What happened in the George Floyd weekend and the week that followed was the.

[Kenny Olson]

Growing.

[Joe Sushore]

And almost encouraged contempt for law enforcement. In Minnesota, you had that little squirrel running for city council. Remember the guy trying to get reelected?

[Chris Reivers]

Philippe Cunningham?

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. And he had to sign. He was supposedly a big leader. And defunding police became very popular. Questioning every move the police made became very popular. Officers left were never replaced. You've got city council people in both cities, most particularly in Minneapolis, who hold the police in suspicion. And it really gets to the heart. Just bear with me. This is a long soliloquy. It really gets to the heart of the matter of the mystery, which just doesn't like the founding of the country. It was founded by white guys, and they weren't smart enough to understand what life in 2026 was like. So we hold them responsible for this. And even their laws were an affectation. They just made them up out of their privilege and their skin color and their superiority. And finally, we've reached a point now, based on the George Floyd weekend and the George Floyd week, where we saw that we can demonstrate that look what happened. And it justified in their minds, holding law enforcement in disregard, holding them in a poor light. Mary Moriarty almost skinned alive. A state trooper who was merely doing his job. Remember that case? It's on and on and on. And as part of this cultural shift to hold the law as debatable, something we might hold in contempt, something we don't trust as part of that, along came sanctuary city movement. For example, there is no Specific law in Minnesota that declares that Minnesota is a sanctuary state. It is rather, it's a function of this culture of holding law enforcement in abeyance. There is no law in the books. It was shot down in the legislature. It never could get the votes. But the sentiment is there. And the mayors of both the two largest cities, they've enforced the sentiment by instructing police that they can't question the origin of somebody they arrest. Where are you from? So this became a really comfortable place for immigrants to come, legal or illegal. This became a very comfortable place because the people running the show in Minnesota were more than welcoming. It was a way they could continue to thumb their nose at conventional America. And we don't need laws. In fact, we intend to disregard the law. We already hold police in contempt. We disregard the law. And so we get this influx of people moving here, and the police aren't even allowed to wonder about them. And you have a Hennepin county attorney who very seldom would prosecute the kind of people who should be prosecuted. And now the years go by, then the fraud fits into this. The fraud has been committed by a certain group of people who happen to be people of color. And the same people who are bringing you a disregard for the conventions and traditions of America are going to look the other way on the fraud. It helps reinforce their belief that we should all have equity. And even if it's stolen from the taxpayers of Minnesota, we're going to look the other way. So now you got. Now you got the likes of Joe Thompson comes to town and he's fighting this wall, this wall of belief that we look the other way on this fraud. And he's chipping away at it. And he's chipping away at it. And he's making inroads. He's making headway. The fraud is undeniable. It exists. He was prosecuting people. But the overall. The overall vibe of the culture in Minnesota, at least in the metro. I'm sure this isn't true in outstate Minnesota, but I bet you can pick up pieces of it in the larger cities like Duluth, Rochester, the Twin Cities. The overall vibe is that we don't like law enforcement, we don't like authority. We don't like authority. Witness the mayor of Duluth tried to abandon the word chief out of her destroyed, failed academy belief that chief was somehow derogatory. We have a culture in Minnesota that is slid into disrepair by virtue of this, abandoning any respect whatsoever for law enforcement. So now we come to ice is in Minnesota. It should become more easy to understand why they're ridiculed, why you have people running around with whistles and yelling at them and throwing snowballs at them. Because it's an outgrowth of this culture that's been permitted to exist in this state because we've been led by adult children who led the movement to hold law enforcement in such low regard, such low opinion. So it shouldn't really be any wonder that people are out on the corner, because, my God, they're attacking my brothers and sisters who are here from Ecuador or Mexico. And these people are the same as us, and they have every right in the world to be here. We don't care if it's legal or not, because we've already been told in Minnesota, we have a culture. We don't really regard legality. We don't believe in authority, and we don't believe in this kind of system. So therefore, to me, it's no surprise the street corners are full of people ridiculing ice. Where am I going with this?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know where, you know what that stems from.

[Joe Sushore]

I'm taking a pause in my own.

[Chris Reivers]

Not in every case, but in some cases, this is one of the first times they've ever been held accountable. We've seen it in schools where the people you're describing, we've seen it with behavior in schools as early as elementary school kids aren't held accountable for their actions.

[Joe Sushore]

And if I'm wrong about the good shooting, then I'm wrong. But another way to look at it, given this context of the culture that's developed in Minnesota, people are shocked that she was shot. They're shocked. I personally still don't believe that she was going to use her car to mow down cops. Maybe she was. I don't know. I don't know. But what the people gathered on street corners in front of the Whipple Building and standing outside Target stores. What they believe is you had no right to inflict justice here. We don't believe in it. We don't believe in authority. We don't believe in law. We believe that that's all an affectation created by flawed founders of the country. We have wholeheartedly embraced the idea that you don't belong here. Maybe that's part of why Thompson said, the hell with this place. I have no idea. I have no idea. But it doesn't seem to be a mystery to me that. That people are going nuts for ice's presence. I personally wish ICE would be doing it a different way, but they're doing it the way they're doing it. It doesn't surprise me at all that people are going crazy because ICE is here. Because ICE is. And it's even compounded that not only is ICE the presence of authority and law enforcement, which we are disabused of, it's worse because they were sent by Trump. And that compounds the problem. These are Trump people, therefore we hate them. And that's Minnesota. This wouldn't take place in every state. Might take place in Illinois. It might take place here. It might take place in Oregon. It might take place in the state of Washington. There are states where mysterians have been successful, including here, chiefly here, have been successful in reducing respect for the law to a whim. And so it's not surprising me that people are going crazy because ICE is here. They represent Trump, they represent the law, they represent authority, they represent the founding of the country. They represent American tradition, they represent American convention, which is to have law and order. And we have thrown that out in Minnesota culture. We don't really necessarily believe any of that. That's the end of my soliloquy. There'll be a short quiz on this.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Sushore]

Tomorrow.

[Chris Reivers]

We were not told that there was going to be.

[John Height]

I didn't take notes.

[Kenny Olson]

So following up on what you just said, as far as we don't respect the law, et cetera, what about the protesters that are protesting? The protesters. So this would be the. And getting in.

[Joe Sushore]

I don't think highly of them.

[Kenny Olson]

Did you see the one guy that punched the guy with the umbrella and the red coat? The guy was doing the megaphone and he was doing the Will Ferrell in his face.

[Joe Sushore]

Maybe this is a way to say it if I'm right, and who knows if I am or not. I happen to think there is a culture here of anti law enforcement. Once you lose, that everything's. It's over, Everything's anarchy, Everything's up in the air.

[Matthew]

That's what we have now.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. Once you lose, in fact, and when you're led by people who encourage it, a governor who would. Who would have allowed. Who allowed the third Precinct to burn, who hesitated to call the National Guard, who dragged his feet, whose daughter was alerting rioters where to be based on the knowledge she obviously had to be getting from her father. Once you let respect for the law go out the window, well, everything's gonna go up. And everything's up in the air. Everything.

[Matthew]

And I think we have political leaders on both sides of the aisle that are fomenting this unrest with their comments. Yes, including the governor last week and obviously a lot, you know, the vice president and everybody else on the right. I think both sides are, I think we're caught in the middle and now we're fighting with each other. Neighbors are fighting with each other over something like this.

[Joe Sushore]

And I don't think neighbors would be fighting each other if the law had held firm in Minnesota, if the culture did not change so dramatically. I think the culture has changed dramatically. Look at the way you've all seen the, the news clips and look at the way people talk to police when they're stopped for a routine ticketing or speeding or whatever. There's no respect for law enforcement.

[Kenny Olson]

They already have an edge on their shoulder.

[Joe Sushore]

And let me repeat, it's compounded by ICE having been dispatched here by Trump who did not win Minnesota and is loathed by the Minnesotans who didn't vote for him.

[Kenny Olson]

He is that petty. Yes. Well, and the fact that we have Ilhan omar here and 75,000 Somalis.

[Joe Sushore]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

So that means for people coming here, not people that are already here.

[Joe Sushore]

The US Government is revoking the legal status. It'll involve people here. The US Government is revoking the legal status of several thousand people and immigrants from Somalia, raising the specter of deportation, a Department of Homeland Security official said. The Trump administration has decided to terminate Somalia's Temporary Protected Status program, which allows beneficiaries to live and work in the US without fear of deportation. Nationals of Somalia enrolled in the TPS program are now set to lose their legal status and work permits. On March 17, the DHS official said roughly 25, 500 Somali immigrants with TPS are expected to be affected by the termination. The Trump administration has urged TPS holders whose status will lapse into self deport, warning that they will be found, arrested and deported if they fail to do so. This will again be met with opposition in Minnesota. Minnesotans will again take to the streets to combat this. Temporary means temporary country conditions in Somalia have improved to the point that it no longer meets the law's requirement for temporary protected status, DH Secretary Christie Noem said. Further, allowing Somali nationals to remain temporarily in the US Is contrary to our national interests. We are putting Americans first. Okay, I'm going along with this. Okay, I'm not contesting this. It will be seriously contested here. This will result in more protesting, whistleblowing, snowball throwing and God forbid, shooting. Because here the culture has developed the idea that the Somalis can do no wrong, that there are brothers and sisters. In many cases they are, but in many cases they're not. And if there are Somalis in Minnesota who have temporary protected status, I don't know. You've got a month or more to do something about it. Perhaps there is something they can do about it. Minnesota or I'm sorry. Mr. Trump and his aides have focused particularly in Minnesota, home to the largest community of Somali immigrants and Somali Americans. Citing a massive fraud scandal in the state implicating members of the Somali community community, the administration has deployed thousands of federal immigration agents to the Minneapolis area. Here's what that has done. The conflating of fraud with illegal immigration is giving the Minnesota leaders a free pass. They are going to get away with continuing to oppose the law because they're riding on the coattails of the ICE protests, which have to do with billions and billions of dollars having been stolen from us. Nothing. But they're going to walls. Will Walls could even emerge from this as a hero in this state. Good Lord. Because he will Use this and Fry will use this. And unfortunately, how are we saying that? Keoli.

[John Height]

Kali.

[Joe Sushore]

Kali. I'm sorry, Kali. Kali Herr, who was at the press conference yesterday when it was announced that we're suing the Fed can use this and fraud will become forgotten. Mark my words, the fraud will, will fall to a bit. Which is another reason that Thompson might have left. He can see fraud falling to the back burner.

[Matthew]

We saw this coming down Highway 61 last week with the walls press conferences.

[Joe Sushore]

So you have two distinct matters here, illegal immigration and fraud. But in Minnesota, the powers that be will mix this together into a real violent stew and the fraud will get pushed aside. If Thompson's leaving, who's going to prosecute fraud? Is Rosen going to appoint someone else to prosecute fraud? Mary Moriarty sure as hell won't. Right. Who's going to now prosecute fraud? Keith. Keith Ellison has done more hard work in the last 48 hours to sue the government than he's done in eight years pursuing fraud. Seriously. He's not done a damn thing on behalf of the people of Minnesota. But now we're going to sue the Feds. And I, I don't know if they'll be successful or not.

[Matthew]

What you just said about Ellison should be a screaming headline in all of the newspapers. Nothing more true has been said.

[Joe Sushore]

Yes, they've done a damn thing about fraud.

[Matthew]

And look at his relationship over the last eight years. How long has he been in office? Since he's been in office. Look at his relationship with those fraudsters and what happened.

[Chris Reivers]

They contributed to his campaign.

[John Height]

Bingo.

[Joe Sushore]

He held meetings with them.

[Matthew]

Bingo.

[Joe Sushore]

But Trump's ICE people are in town. That gives Keith quite a soapbox to stand on, because Walls and Keith and Fry and her, and before her, Melvin Carter. Trump was their target, their easy target. And now it's reached the point where they can use it to watch fraud go into the background as they continue to criticize the behavior of ICE in town.

[Matthew]

Both sides are doing everything possible to have us, the voting hard working public, at each other's throats. Trump has doubled down with the ICE agents coming to town, even though this makes him and the Republicans look really, really bad.

[Joe Sushore]

That's right.

[Matthew]

And instead of coming up with something a little more gentle, more gentle optics, he's doubled down and he's made it worse. And now both sides, there's, like Chris said, there's protesters and then there's counter protesters and it's just one big nasty ball of hate.

[Joe Sushore]

It's exhausting and it's benefiting Mysterians. It's benefiting the walls crowd. Yeah, they're playing this to their benefit.

[Matthew]

You're right. I believe President Trump has lost all crossover voters. You know what? I would say all the Republicans have lost all crossover voters in this state.

[Joe Sushore]

Trump has committed the sin he always commits. He has overcorrected, and now he's going to really overcorrect by sending 2,500 more ICE agents here.

[Chris Reivers]

You had mentioned earlier that if I can't remember exactly how you said it, but ICE's operation, how they should have done it differently. Do you have a thought on that?

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, I've stated it a couple times. I just wish they would have. And I'm told that I'm being naive on this, that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I just wish they. Prior to any arrival in Minnesota, they had a set list of people at the top of the danger chain that they came to get. And they were going to. Whether you like it or not. They were gonna. They weren't gonna hassle your house cleaner, the chef, the gardener, the school janitor, if those people happen to be here illegally. That's not why we're here. We're here to get criminals. We're here to get criminals and then come into town. Don't even tell anybody you're here. See, part of the problem, too, is even though by law we're not a sanctuary state, by sentiment we are. And local coppers haven't done their hands have been tied in getting these criminals. So now ICE comes to town. Their hands are tied a by the protests and by the fact the cops won't help them.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, but ice, if you think of police forces in every city, it's not that they're stealth. They have some decorum. ICE has come in with a blitzkrag going, we're ICE pounding our chests. We're gonna kick your ass. And that is.

[Matthew]

And I know what. All the thousands of people that tune into GL every day just to hate, listen and yell and scream at us. We don't want these criminals here either. You know, they had free reign coming over the border. It was almost a red carpet situation in the southern border during the Biden.

[Joe Sushore]

Particularly in this state.

[Matthew]

And we don't want these criminals here. And yes, we want them gone. I think our big problem is we're seeing how the sausage is made and we don't like it.

[Joe Sushore]

We have a governmental culture in Minnesota that will do everything it can to prevent them being gone.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

And what do you agree with the way ICE came in, beating their chest and stealth, or.

[Chris Reivers]

Aren't you almost answering your own question, though?

[Matthew]

I think he is.

[Chris Reivers]

Because when it's not being done at the state and the local level, what other option is there?

[Joe Sushore]

Right. I just would have done it differently.

[Matthew]

You know, you can't wine and dine them, Matthew. You know, these. These are criminals and they're going after them and they're meeting resistance, so they're defending themselves.

[Joe Sushore]

But the view of the public, which has developed over the last 10 years, a culture of not liking law enforcement. The view of the public is that these are evil Trump invaders.

[Kenny Olson]

They're not there guys that work here.

[Matthew]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

I mean, some of them are imported in, but aren't there a significant amount that are localized?

[Joe Sushore]

I hate to make this prediction, but there'll be more deaths if this continues. Well, how could it be otherwise?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, I don't want it to be. I mean, I can't.

[Joe Sushore]

You've got probably right in the eyes of the state. You have evil Trump enforcers in town and you've got a state encouraging resistance to them.

[John Height]

Where are you?

[Joe Sushore]

Once you let your culture become free of the conventions and traditions of law? You got nothing. You are totally up in the air. We still stop at red lights, but not even all the time. You know.

[Matthew]

Certainly not during a blizzard. I blow all those.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, there's that. Those are stoptional.

[Matthew]

Going right through.

[John Height]

Stop.

[Joe Sushore]

It is stop showing totally.

[Chris Reivers]

Especially since we don't plow the streets.

[Joe Sushore]

Now, where does that leave gl?

[Chris Reivers]

That's your. That's a question for you, not us.

[Joe Sushore]

GL is still a place of convention, tradition, law enforcement obeying the law. I don't. I mean, so where does that leave us? I guess that leaves us still living.

[Matthew]

That way, the five of us. It leaves us as neighbors that still talk to each other and still get along and we don't let politics get in the way. Obviously, I disagree with you quite a bit, and that doesn't mean I respect you any less or like you any less or wish bad things upon you. I think we represent a lifestyle that used to be and. And that still might exist in the, you know, the outskirts where it does.

[Joe Sushore]

Not exist in the Metro.

[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah. Where you see a guy in the ditch, you pull over to help him out. You see somebody that needs, you know, that kind of old school GL neighborly.

[Joe Sushore]

The harm done to Minnesota culture cannot be the harm done to Minnesota culture by walls. And his trifecta cannot be overstated. It just cannot be Overstated. Well, I think I'm gonna take a little time out.

[Chris Reivers]

I'd like to hear from Ken.

[Matthew]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Sushore]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Sushore]

I've never had to deal with that whole salt thing.

[Chris Reivers]

What do you mean?

[Joe Sushore]

I don't know.

[Chris Reivers]

Do you not have a water softener?

[John Height]

No.

[Matthew]

Never.

[Joe Sushore]

Never had one.

[Chris Reivers]

Then that would explain it.

[Kenny Olson]

I had one in the city. I went through zero salt.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, we don't need one. Yeah, as far as I know. I don't know why. I don't know anything. I just don't have any salt.

[Kenny Olson]

You need it?

[Matthew]

Yeah, we use it to remove impurities. Our water is poison out here.

[Joe Sushore]

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[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[John Height]

I love the feeling of, of after you put salt into it and the water feels soft. I love that feeling.

[Matthew]

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[Kenny Olson]

What are you talking.

[Joe Sushore]

Here's John. Here's John Height. Here's John Height.

[John Height]

Thank you, Joe. This Sunday news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. This from a New York Times report. We're talking about Joseph Thomps resigning.

[Joe Sushore]

John DATELINE today, Right now, correct.

[John Height]

This morning, just in the last hour and a half, actually. Six federal prosecutors in Minnesota have resigned over the Justice Department's push to investigate the widow of a woman killed by an ICE agent and the department's reluctance to investigate the shooter, according to people with knowledge of the decision. Joe Thompson, who was second in command at the U.S. attorney's office and oversaw the fraud investigation here that's roiled the political landscape in Minnesota, was among those who quit today. Thompson's resignation came after senior Justice Department officials pressed for a criminal investigation into the actions of the widow of Renee Nicole Good, the Minneapolis woman who was killed by an ICE agent last week. 47 year old Thompson, a career prosecutor, objected to that approach, as well as to the Justice Department's refusal to include state officials in investigating whether the shooting itself was lawful, according to the people familiar with his decision. The other senior career prosecutors who resigned were Harry Jacobs, Melinda Williams, Williams Thomas Calhoun Lopez. Jacobs had been Thompson's deputy overseeing the fraud investigation. Calhoun Lopez was the chief of the Violent and Major Crimes Unit. Thompson, Jacobs, Williams and Calhoun Lopez declined to discuss the reasons they resigned. The Justice Department at this point did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The fraud cases, which involve schemes to defund safety net programs as we know, managed by state agencies, were the chief reason the Trump administration gave for launching an immigration crackdown in the state state. The resignations followed days at the U.S. attorney's office in Minnesota as prosecutors struggled to manage the outrage over Good's killing, which set off protests in Minnesota and across the nation. After Good was shot, the Justice Department had decided to forego a civil rights investigation that would establish whether the ICE officer's use of deadly force was justified. That decision led several career prosecutors at the department's civil rights division in Washington to resign in protest. Instead, the Justice Department launched an investigation to examine ties between Good and her wife, Becca, and several groups that have been monitoring and protesting the conduct of immigration agents in recent weeks. Shortly after Wednesday's fatal shooting, Kristi Noem, the Secretary of Homeland Security, had referred to Goode as a domestic terrorist.

[Joe Sushore]

So that tells me that Thompson is displaying some character here. And he's saying two things. One, what the hell does the widow have to do with this? That's what I was wondering. Why in God's name do you want her investigated? And two, why are you cutting us out of it? It happened right in our front yard. We saw it. It happened right here. And you're telling us, oh, no, don't worry, we got it. We got it. That tells me that they fear mightily the outcome of that case if they have been prosecuted here.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, to answer the first part of your question, I too, was wondering, outside of just being a bystander and a witness, what would she. But I get my guess would be, were you and your wife, were you following ICE agents for days, which was one of the earlier speculations. That could be my only guess as to why she would be investigated.

[Joe Sushore]

So what?

[Chris Reivers]

I'm giving you an answer. That would be my guess.

[John Height]

Days of demonstrations against agents here in Minnesota, leaving today tense, a day after federal authorities used tear gas to break up crowds of whistleblowing activists and state and local leaders sued to fight the enforcement surge that led to the fatal shooting of Go. Confrontations between federal agents and protesters stretched throughout the day yesterday and across multiple cities. Agents firing tear gas in Minneapolis and also in northwestern part of St. Cloud. Hundreds of people protesting outside a strip of Somali run businesses after ICE officers arrived there. Later last night. Confrontations erupted between protesters and officers guarding the federal building being used as a base here in the Twin Cities, with the Department of Homeland Security pledging to send in more than 2,000 more immigration officers. The state, joined by Minneapolis and St. Paul, sued the Trump administration yesterday, trying to halt the limit. The suit filed says the Department of Homeland Security is violating the First Amendment and other constitutional protections. It accuses the Republican Trump administration of violating free speech rights by focusing on a progressive state that favors Democrats and welcomes immigrants. The government also faces a new lawsuit over the similar immigration crackdown in Illinois. Meanwhile, this morning on Facebook, former Minnesota Governor Arne Carlson weighed in on that lawsuit, saying he read it, his wife read it. It's highly professional and extensive, he said, amidst the chaos and unleashing of hate. We're a nation of laws. We respect law and understand that it provides the stability and orderliness necessary for democracy to succeed, he continued. Unfortunately, what is being frequently missed today is that law also applies to government, including its leaders and enforcers. He went after Vice President J.D. vance last week, Vance saying that ICE agents have absolute protection from state charges. Carlson writing, how could any public official demonstrate such an appalling amount of ignorance? He did not even mention any qualifiers or conditions. No, it was blanket permission to ICE agents to do whatever they want, and that's precisely what they're doing. He closed the Facebook post by saying, now close your eyes and vision Germany in 1937 and witness the Gestapo prowling the streets looking for Jews and political dissidents. That is the world of Trump, and every one of us should applaud the filing of this lawsuit and do all we can to restore the supremacy of our Constitution.

[Joe Sushore]

One problem, Arnie the state that you once governed is now a state that is only selected, effectively enforcing laws unrecognizable.

[Kenny Olson]

To Arnie.

[John Height]

And the federal immigration crackdown in Minnesota has descended on the stores and parking lots of Target, and that's putting the hometown retailer in a tough political spot as it faces pressure from some locals to keep border protection agents out. That pressure came to a head after immigration officials detained two Target employees employees inside the vestibule of a suburban store after what appeared to be some verbal sparring in the parking lot. As one was escorted to a van, he yelled, I'm literally a U S. Citizen. Both were American citizens. They were later released after spending eight hours in custody. Video of the incident quickly circulated, sparking an outcry on social media and calls from local residents and politicians for Target to protect employees and customers from immigration agents patrolling its store lots.

[Chris Reivers]

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[John Height]

In national and international news, the consumer price index rose at an annual rate of 2.7% in the final months of 2025, a little higher but close to economists forecasts and unchanged from the prior year Month capping a year when many Americans said they felt squeezed by price pressures. The CPI was expected to rise 2.6% on an annual basis last month. The CPI tracks the changes in a basket of goods and services typically purchased by consumers like food and apparel. Inflation last month matched November's 2.7% annual pace, signaling that prices did not ease further at the end of the year. Food prices jumping 3.1% last month, accelerating from a 2.6% increase in November. Groceries have remained a sticking point for Americans who have had to stretch their budget to afford basic stables. Staples, excuse me, ground beef prices jumped 15 and a half percent compared with a year earlier. Coffee was up almost 20% and bananas rose 5.9%. One food staple that did see a cut eggs, which fell 20.9% from a year ago. The eggs, I'm assuming I just hard.

[Kenny Olson]

Boiled six of them last night. Feel so much better when they're cheaper like that.

[Matthew]

Chris, do you have the time and tell please?

[Joe Sushore]

Meanwhile, time and time I left the.

[Kenny Olson]

Other six to be normal.

[Chris Reivers]

What was the process?

[Joe Sushore]

We don't, we don't need to know that. We need the news.

[John Height]

Meanwhile, former Reserve chairs and top economists issued a statement yesterday condem, condemning that federal probe we told you about yesterday into Fed Chair Jerome Powell as a threat to the central bank's independence. The Justice Department launched a criminal investigation into whether Powell misled Congress about the scope of roughly two and a half billion dollars worth of renovations of the Fed's headquarters. Powell characterized the allegation as a pressure campaign by President Trump to push the central bank to lower interest rates. The president has criticized the Fed for not lowering rates faster and last month floated suing Powell over the renovation. Trump denied any prior knowledge of the probe into the Fed and Powell. President Trump warned yesterday the US could face chaos if the Supreme Court strikes down his tariff authority, claiming it would be a complete mess for the government to repay the billions collected under his trade measures. Trade measures? Trump wrote on social media that issuing refunds could be Nearly impossible, saying the amounts involved would be so large it could take years to determine who, who, when and where to pay. The Supreme Court heard oral arguments on the case in November. A decision is expected soon. Speaking of tariffs, remember the two thousand dollar check President Trump said Americans would be gaining from?

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, whatever happened to that?

[John Height]

Well, apparently he doesn't remember saying it. Oh, he did an interview with the New York Times this past week and he was asked if, if there was any time frame for getting those checks to America Americans. He replied with I did do that. And then asked, when did I do that? Oh yeah, well, Trump did do it on November 9, 2025, saying that everyone would get $2,000 except high income people in the U.S. the claims about the extent of revenue trillions number that he used trillions of dollars were not correct. Tariff revenue for last year stood at about 195 billion. That's a 150% increase over duties collected the previous year, but about 91% less than the trillion he claimed the levies have generated. Economists note a two thousand dollar dividend for eligible Americans would add up to much more than the tariffs that have been collected up to this point.

[Joe Sushore]

Can I say something to Trump? It might offer him a small measure of consolation. Please. I really, I really wasn't counting on the two grand. I had forgotten all.

[Kenny Olson]

On the contrary, I, I do recall him saying that and I've budgeted that into my.

[Chris Reivers]

You are.

[Joe Sushore]

I didn't.

[Kenny Olson]

Waiting for that.

[Joe Sushore]

I didn't make a note of it.

[John Height]

I went out and bought stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[John Height]

Yeah, that's it.

[Kenny Olson]

Time to pay the ferryman.

[John Height]

In that same New York Times interview, the President said he should have ordered the National Guard to seize ballot boxes during the 2020 election. Well, that actually would be against the law, though. When asked if that order, which he considered giving and an attempt to overturn the 2020 election was ever a real option, he said, I don't know that they are sophisticated enough, meaning the National Guard, to do it. You know, they're good warriors. I'm not sure though, that they're sophisticated enough in the ways of crooked Democrats and the way they cheat to figure that out. Despite lacking all evidence, Trump has long insisted he was cheated in the 2020 election. In December 2020, the White House had apparently drafted, but never issued an executive order giving Trump the authority to order the military or law enforcement to seize voting machines. That would be illegal as states are constitutionally empowered to run elections with Congress as the federal body with authority to regulate them. Democratic Senator Mark Kelly is suing the Pentagon. He filed yesterday over those attempts to punish him for his warnings about illegal orders, claiming the Trump administration trampled on his constitutional rights to free speech. Kelly, former U.S. navy pilot and astronaut who represents Arizona, is trying to block his son censure by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth last week. Hegseth announced Jan. 5 that he censured Kelly over his participation in a video that called on troops to resist unlawful orders.

[Joe Sushore]

Do you think if Harris was president and she sent ICE to Minnesota, there would be protests? Republicans sure wouldn't protest because they have jobs. Well, I don't think the Democrats would have protested.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, I don't think Sher would have sent ice.

[Joe Sushore]

No, I don't think so either.

[John Height]

Odd exercise there. The Supreme Court will is today hearing its first ever cases on transgender athletes taking part in sports. The outcome of the cases originating in Idaho and West Virginia, likely to impact laws across more than 20 states that have similar measures. Boise State University student 24 year old Lindsay Hecox sued Idaho over its 2020 law barring transgender athletes from women's and girls sports team at public schools at all levels, including colleges. And 15 year old Becky Pepper Jackson, who was publicly identified as a girl since the third grade and has been taking puberty blocking medication, challenged a similar law in West Virginia. Federal courts have blocked the two laws on the grounds that they discriminate on the basis of sex in violation of Title 9. The states have appealed, arguing sex and gender identity are separate matters. An estimated 122,000 transgender teens participate in high school sports. That's a little over 1% of the US's more than 8 million teenage athletes.

[Joe Sushore]

Does anybody watch Land Man?

[Chris Reivers]

Just you and Roy.

[Matthew]

I tried. It's.

[Joe Sushore]

Never mind. I'm not saying I tried. Not important. Never mind.

[Chris Reivers]

I have a fact based email from Josh talking about St. Paul Walk. St. Paul uses primarily treated surface water from the Mississippi river for its water supply.

[Matthew]

What?

[Chris Reivers]

Surface water is naturally soft, so it makes sense that St. Paul residents like the mayor do not require a water softener. Municipalities at rural homes in our area that use wells for their water supply will need some form of softening to remove hard water contaminants. That being said, you should go with Reivers and get a drinking water system from Connecticut. Always a great choice.

[Matthew]

Thank you.

[Kenny Olson]

Josh, what is the role of Lake Vadnai?

[Joe Sushore]

I thought we got our water from up off Race street up there. Yeah, beautiful lake. I caught. I found an arrowhead up there one time.

[Kenny Olson]

Really?

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

How many eggs would you boil?

[Kenny Olson]

Must Be crazy.

[Joe Sushore]

Thank you, Chris.

[John Height]

A new study. A new study says humans are far from the only primates engaging in same sex sexual activity.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. Humans are overrated.

[Matthew]

I had a dog that had that proclaimed prolific. Yeah.

[John Height]

The study found instances in which 59 non human primate species, including bonobos. Those are monkeys, right?

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. A monkey will give you a lot of trouble.

[John Height]

And chimpanzees have taken part in the same sex behaviors.

[Joe Sushore]

That'll happen.

[John Height]

Researchers observed repeated occurrence of the behavior in 23 species. Now, if you're wondering why they think all this is happening.

[Chris Reivers]

I do, John.

[John Height]

They published a article yesterday in the journal Nature Ecology and Evolution.

[Joe Sushore]

I get that, Maggie. Easy.

[John Height]

The findings challenged some common assumptions about the purpose of sex in the animal world, suggesting it plays a broader social role. The author authors say that same sex behavior developed evolutionarily to help primates in complex social groups ease tension, reduce conflict and build bonds.

[Chris Reivers]

Bongo could bring it. Bronco.

[Matthew]

Mine was a girl and boy. She wanted to be the dominant one. I tell you what.

[Joe Sushore]

Who got the.

[Chris Reivers]

Grant money with her accommodation?

[John Height]

Combination of genetics and external stress from the environment or from social systems appears to drive the behavior, according to the scientists.

[Joe Sushore]

John, that's fine. Thank you.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay, that's gonna do her now.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Giving them instructions.

[John Height]

It's the end of the world as we know it.

[Matthew]

And he feels fine. Joe Su.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Sushore]

Rick, Rick, Rick, Rick.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reivers]

Joe?

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

You wanna clean air in St. Paul?

[Joe Sushore]

I hope so. All right.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Sushore]

You recall yesterday we had the astonishing news that somebody unidentified has paid $15 million for a Superman comic book?

[John Height]

Book.

[Joe Sushore]

The first edition back in the came out in about 1937. And the mink writes the Superman comic story. Makes me think of something I do. I like to ask people, given unlimited resources, what popular culture widget would you like to own? What prompted this was when Paul Newman's Rolex was sold for whatever number. And I said to a friend that if I had that sum, I would like to own Newman's watch. 15 million for a comic book would not be a thing for me, nor would it be for me. But I came up with something. Now, I can't say I'd spend. I don't think I'd spend 15 million.

[Kenny Olson]

How about glasses that fit? Is that free? Glasses that fit on your face regular before I can proceed with the show?

[Joe Sushore]

Okay. They were a little crooked. Okay.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you for.

[Joe Sushore]

Does anybody have anything? If money was not your object and you had some cultural widget that you could own and buy. But again, I think money's always an object. I think anyone who spends 15 million on a comic book should be in a home somewhere.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it's more of an investment. Money. Well, right.

[Joe Sushore]

I can't believe it could be worth much more than that. As the years go by, memorabilia running out of people who know who soup Superman is.

[Kenny Olson]

And Dorothy's shoes are out because that dude.

[Joe Sushore]

Okay, so anyone. Anyone? I know what John Height would say.

[John Height]

I know a couple things I'd love.

[Kenny Olson]

Johnny's would be guitar related.

[John Height]

Yeah, yeah. One would be if I'd love because Strats are my favorite guitars with the best sound of 54 strat. Just because it's a 54.

[Joe Sushore]

1954. So what? But see, I think the game, John, is it would have to be culturally identified. You see, you want a 54 owned by some somebody. Oh, you'd want a, you know, loaned one.

[John Height]

I don't know. I mean, I'm sure plenty of guitarists I know have owned them, but I.

[Matthew]

Know of my stuff is on you. You can't purchase. I want to own the Gettysburg Address. Oh, you can't. You can't. Not for Sale get somebody steal it for rare art. I would love some rare art like Nicholas.

[Joe Sushore]

I, I, I almost feel like I'm playing Hollywood Squares with when I to rookie to ask him because come up with a Sean, what's the game they played on Saturday Night Live?

[Kenny Olson]

Jeopardy.

[Joe Sushore]

Jeopardy. So I mean I, I, I think of Sean. That's right.

[Chris Reivers]

Show me.

[Joe Sushore]

Don't touch. Now for 200 who reads let it.

[Kenny Olson]

Snow is what it is.

[Joe Sushore]

Anal bum cover.

[Matthew]

I have a sign at home that you're supposed to stick outside in your yard. It's a, it's a Santa Claus and it says letit now. And every time I walk by it I laugh.

[Joe Sushore]

Let it snow.

[Kenny Olson]

Let it snow.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, that what it is. Rook.

[Kenny Olson]

I would say the first laser disc off of the line.

[John Height]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

You know, laser discs weren't that very popular.

[Matthew]

That's a swing and a miss, Matthew.

[Joe Sushore]

That's pathetic.

[Kenny Olson]

That's worth a whole bunch of money.

[Joe Sushore]

I bet it's not worth 5 cents the first Betamax. What like a movie.

[Kenny Olson]

I want something that didn't take off. Off. That was a. That would be sitting in this Smithsonian for its.

[Matthew]

He's, I think he's actually. Yeah. You're on to something. I was wrong.

[Kenny Olson]

It would, it would be worth something. I mean I don't want Newman's Rolex watch.

[Matthew]

Oh my God. Archie Bunker's chair.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, now you're talking.

[Joe Sushore]

I have two things in mind.

[Matthew]

That's in the Smithsonian too.

[Joe Sushore]

I'd like to own one of Steve McQueen's cars.

[Kenny Olson]

I knew you were going to come up with a car. I thought Kenny was going to come up with the track.

[Joe Sushore]

And I have some. Or I would like to own the, the, the, the Beatles based drum skin with Beatles written on it. I think Paul McCartney owns it.

[John Height]

That'd be cool.

[Joe Sushore]

That would be cool. Okay.

[Matthew]

You know, Adam Carolla owns a bunch of Datsuns that Paul Newman road raced.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And he runs them every now and then.

[Joe Sushore]

I can't mock that.

[Matthew]

Yeah, that's really cool. And I just watched a big thing about the original Captain America bike and how first there were two and then they were gone and then there were two more made for promotional purposes and how Grizzly Adams had two of them and it'd be fun to find the original and own that.

[Joe Sushore]

Maybe Peter Fonda owns it.

[Matthew]

I've watched a bunch of shows about the car from Dukes of Hazard, you know, and there were up to 12 or more of those.

[Joe Sushore]

Bubba Watson owned the original.

[Matthew]

Right. It'd be something.

[Chris Reivers]

Right?

[Kenny Olson]

Generally you did.

[John Height]

I I did find the Strat I would want because I looked it up and every famous Strat players had a 54.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[John Height]

But a guy named Eldon Shamblin, I don't know if you're familiar with me, played with Bob Wills in his Texas Playboys.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[John Height]

He had one that Leo Fender made for him. It was gold. And it's number 000.

[Joe Sushore]

You know, that would be significant.

[Matthew]

How about. How about that big, giant, heavy Les Paul. That Les Paul made that first one. That'd be cool.

[John Height]

It's not a Les Paul guy.

[Chris Reivers]

I was thinking he's going sports.

[John Height]

No. Well, I was.

[Chris Reivers]

But you know, to be honest, it's just going to collect dust. I would want the original Ghostbusters mobile. I think that'd be cool.

[Matthew]

I thought for sure it would be a baseball bat or a glove.

[Kenny Olson]

I thought he was just like Babe Ruth's last.

[John Height]

I'm not joking.

[Chris Reivers]

It would be fun to have that drive around.

[Matthew]

I used to have a football that I think it was signed by. Maybe this is the name Sean Salisbury sound right?

[Joe Sushore]

Sure, sure.

[Matthew]

We played catch with it until the.

[Joe Sushore]

Signature left it laying out in the yard.

[Kenny Olson]

Gabe, what's your deal?

[Joe Sushore]

He's too young.

[Kenny Olson]

He's gonna surprise.

[Joe Sushore]

I would like the first iPhone that Steve Jobs used and the kids keynote when he invented the touch screen. All right. That'd be worse than the keynote. The keynote that he changed like the dials and all the numbers on a phone to you actually are touching the screen.

[Matthew]

I think you mean when he forced his underlings to invent it.

[Joe Sushore]

But I wouldn't pay 15 million for anything.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Even if you had it.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, because it's really ridiculous. I mean, what. What's worse?

[Kenny Olson]

Do you have to have to have 15 million, you know, drop?

[Joe Sushore]

Well, you'd have to have a lot.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

To be honest, I'm so liberal. I'd probably give the 15 million away. You know, there's.

[Joe Sushore]

I give it away before I paid something.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

There's so many things you can solve.

[Chris Reivers]

With that kind of problem.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. I'm not gonna spend 15 million to buy a comic.

[Chris Reivers]

How about the original? The original? The very first one. The original Chairbo box.

[Matthew]

Priceless. You don't have those cheap copies.

[Kenny Olson]

There's no tag on that last one up at Ogiro.

[John Height]

I think I look because I know I'll never have 15 million or 2 million to buy Eldon Shamlin Strat. I think it's stuff like I told you guys this before. I love 53. Chevy's just the way they look.

[Joe Sushore]

Oh yeah.

[John Height]

I mean, I would love one of those, but now I'm kind of too old to worry about. I don't know enough about cars to take care of.

[Matthew]

So I could buy a used this house.

[Chris Reivers]

The Ferris Bueller car. I changed my answer.

[Joe Sushore]

The Jag. Ferrari California.

[Chris Reivers]

Ferrari California.

[Joe Sushore]

450 GT.

[Chris Reivers]

I think I would 100% buy that.

[Kenny Olson]

If I had the money the hell out of it with all that reverse.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, you want to go movie cars? I'll take the Aston Martin that was driven in the birds by what's her face.

[John Height]

Who was it?

[Kenny Olson]

Tippy Hedron.

[Joe Sushore]

Tippy Hedren.

[Kenny Olson]

I'll take the Gremlin from Wayne's World.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, with the licorice, that's the end of this game.

[Matthew]

That would be fun, Matt. That would be cool.

[Kenny Olson]

Cruising around in a Kremlin or an amc, whatever those things were. Pacer would be. Would be fun. You have to admit that you would get looks.

[Joe Sushore]

And Janis Joplin had a Porsche 356, which is my favorite car in the world. Can't afford one. But she had it painted with psychedelic. Psychedelics.

[Kenny Olson]

How much is a 356?

[Joe Sushore]

They're becoming cost prohibitive. I've told you that story and I blame it all on Jerry Seinfeld.

[Matthew]

Now I've got that Janice song while Mercedes Benz in my head.

[Joe Sushore]

Jerry Seinfeld paid 400 grand for a piece of crap. 356. They ruined it for everybody. Ruined it, I'm telling you.

[Chris Reivers]

Cherry, by the way, it's not a porch, it's a Lamborghini.

[Joe Sushore]

That's right. Painted it green. Did you?

[Chris Reivers]

Yep.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that was a fun game.

[Joe Sushore]

I just wanted to talk about something that was.

[Chris Reivers]

What's your favorite?

[Joe Sushore]

Like, do you have. No, no. You know the guy paid 15 million for a comic book. The mink raised a good question. What would you say seek. What cultural widget would you want to own? I came up with mine. The Beatles bass drum cover.

[Matthew]

The.

[Kenny Olson]

The ba. The real question there is what if you're this guy's brother in law and he paid 15 million for a comic book. When you see him at Thanksgiving and going, listen.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, he's a. And he's down and out.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. John, you paid 15 million for a freaking comic book.

[Joe Sushore]

He shows up in a, you know, a Pinto.

[Matthew]

So you're those types, huh? Somebody close to you is doing well and you expect them to give you their money.

[Joe Sushore]

I need an Ilhan old. What's wrong with you?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, Kenny, I think we hit on A really good point before this segment started. I think tomorrow we're going to do War of the Roses on.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, you. Never mind. I'm sorry I brought it. Here is your latest Ilhan Omar report on Garage Logic.

[Matthew]

Time to play a game on the BGL podcast.

[Chris Reivers]

44 degrees in sunny.

[Kenny Olson]

Traffic's all done. Let's go back to garage.

[Matthew]

Looking for a high of 41 today.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, thank you very much, Katie.

[John Height]

On the roads today.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Joe Sushore]

Remember I said that Omar was trying to get a million bucks earmarked for to send to Minnesota? Yeah, I read that story tucked into a mini funding several departments and agencies. Agencies. The requested community project funding would give 1,031,000 to the Somali led organization Generation Hope's Justice Empowerment Initiative. The earmark had also been backed by Minnesota senators Tina Smith and Amy Klomeshar. Well, of course it would be. They didn't allow it. We want to. There's a small victory there in the world. The. The bill did not include the million that Ilhan wanted to squander here in Minnesota.

[Matthew]

Show up again, tagged onto the back end of some bill. And it just. The boldness of it to me is just so off putting.

[Joe Sushore]

Generation Hope is a Minneapolis based Somali operated NonProfit Incorporated in 2021. This is Bill Glahn telling us this. The Nonprofit received its IRS tax exempt status in 2021. IRS records show that only one Form 990 tax return has been ever filed for that organization and that return covered calendar year 2023. In 2023 the nonprofit reported $167,000 in revenue, which would be some of your money. A search for Generation Hope in the state of Minnesota charity's database returns no results on its website. The nonprofit lists several funding sources including the city of Minneapolis and the U of M. Media reports indicate that the earmark was later stripped from the bill before passage. Ilhan Omar had the nerve to try to send a million bucks to these people who apparently cannot demonstrate that they've ever done anything, anything worth receiving. A million bucks of your money. A small victory. But we only can count them when we see them. We'll take our victories where we find them. Ilhan was deprived of a million bucks. It is. It's a ray of hope. She didn't get to do it. Only because.

[John Height]

Joe, may I interrupt you for just.

[Joe Sushore]

I wish you would.

[John Height]

The Beatles drum head.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[John Height]

There's two originals that have been sold recently.

[Joe Sushore]

Oh.

[John Height]

One was from the Ed Sullivan Show.

[Joe Sushore]

Okay, I'd take that one.

[John Height]

The late Jim Ursay bought that in 2015 for $2.125 million. So that's in his collection. Who knows what the family's gonna do with his stuff. He died, what, last year. Yeah, and Paul McCartney, apparently.

[Joe Sushore]

I told you he had.

[John Height]

Yep, owns one from the 19.

[Chris Reivers]

This is going to be a dumb question. Why doesn't Ringo own it? He was the drummer.

[John Height]

There's a long story online about it. They got rid of them.

[Matthew]

I can get you the same thing for much cheaper. Actually, it's a G ELE from Hibbing.

[Joe Sushore]

Our buddy Lamb, he could do it in a heartbeat.

[John Height]

Yeah, There are also copies that you can buy.

[Joe Sushore]

I don't want to buy 200 bucks. Yeah, I don't want.

[Matthew]

You know what I'm going to drop off to him. I've got a big huge saw blade. I mean it's like huge covered with rust hanging on the wall. Yeah, I gotta come up with something to be painted on that.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, first scrub it with deep creep. You'll get rid of the rust.

[Matthew]

That's what I was gonna ask him. Does it have to be shiny down to bare steel for the paint to work?

[Joe Sushore]

Well, I think that would look better, yeah. Hey, I'm no artist.

[Matthew]

I don't know either.

[Chris Reivers]

Can't draw a three.

[Joe Sushore]

I can't even draw numbers.

[Matthew]

He can't even make a three with his face.

[Joe Sushore]

Only because they come to us all the way from Kaiwaka, New Zealand, the home of the traveling linemans who can be followed@worldwide waftage.com well, it was on this day, Joe.

[Chris Reivers]

Today is January 13th.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, on this day in 1944, the Cruiser Duluth was launched in Newport News, Virginia. Christened by Ella T. Hatch, wife of Duluth Mayor Edward h. Hatch in May 1945 the ship became part of the US fleet in World War II. Was it Mike Hatch, an attorney general in Minnesota?

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

Wonder if that's any relation, John. Look at him go to that Google. Edward Hatch was the mayor of Duluth in 1944. I wonder if the Mike Hatch Hatch generation descended from Edward Hatch.

[John Height]

Hatch is a 1966 graduate of East High School in Duluth.

[Joe Sushore]

Mike is.

[John Height]

Mike is correct.

[Joe Sushore]

That had to be. He had. Maybe this was his dad.

[John Height]

I am looking ah, can't find the parents.

[Joe Sushore]

Edward Hatch and his mom Ella. I'll be damned. 1966, huh?

[Chris Reivers]

You learn more here by you would.

[Joe Sushore]

Have known some hockey players I played at against on this day, Joe.

[Chris Reivers]

Today is the 13th of January.

[Joe Sushore]

In fact maybe I played against Hatch, I don't know. 1978, somebody very important died. Hubert H. Humphrey.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, what year? 78.

[Joe Sushore]

That's right. He was born in Wallace, South Dakota on May 27, 1911. He was the state campaign manager for Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1944. A founder of the anti communist group Americans for Democratic Action, Humphrey entered the national spotlight after delivering a rousing address on civil rights at the 1948 Democratic National Convention. How old would he have been in 1948? 37. He served in the Senate beginning in 1948 and was elected Vice president under Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964. He lost to Nixon in a close race for the presidency in 1968 and then in 1970 was re elected to the Senate where he served until his death. So how old was he? He's only 67. When he died.

[Kenny Olson]

I remember when he died. But what did you say? He was a member of the anti communist.

[Joe Sushore]

He was the founder of the anti communist group Americans for Democratic Action.

[Kenny Olson]

Is there irony there that now the Democrats want to basically be.

[Joe Sushore]

There is some irony there. On this day, Jan.13, in 1982, another death. Nature writer and environmentalist Sigurd Olson died in Ely. Have you ever read any Sigurd Olson? I have. Good stuff.

[John Height]

It's.

[Kenny Olson]

It's deep. You gotta be in the right mood.

[Joe Sushore]

Born in Chicago in 1899, Olson served as a canoe guide in the Boundary Waters region and was active in environmental issues.

[Matthew]

Who am I getting him confused with? A guy from North Dakota, lived in Minnesota, did a canoe trip.

[Joe Sushore]

Siegfried, The CBS guy. Siegfried, yeah.

[Matthew]

CBS News course.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

That guy.

[John Height]

Eric Severod.

[Joe Sushore]

Eric Severode, yeah.

[Matthew]

Severide.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

I knew there was an ide sound in there somewhere.

[Chris Reivers]

You know his books. There's also Rook if you ever want.

[Joe Sushore]

To purchase one I really wasn't done with.

[Chris Reivers]

There's a Norwegian edition for each one of his books as well.

[Kenny Olson]

There is?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

What is it?

[Joe Sushore]

I wasn't done with this, Dan.

[Matthew]

He was actually a great uncle to me.

[Joe Sushore]

Sigurd. Yeah.

[John Height]

Good.

[Matthew]

Where the family kind of was on the outs with him.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

He's a bit of a. A hippie Granola.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, he. He got invite involved in iron. In environmental issues. Yeah.

[Matthew]

He started to write poems and we kicked him out.

[John Height]

This is S E N. Oh, whoops.

[Matthew]

I guess everything I just said was.

[John Height]

No, it is. No, it isn't.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes, it is.

[Joe Sushore]

No, it isn't.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm looking at his bio right here.

[Joe Sushore]

So am I. Here it is. O L O N Olson O L S O N. Kenny has left the conversation. I wasn't even done with his. This day in history he Began environmental activism in the 1920s. Played a prominent role in the battle for Federal Protection. The BWA CBWB TYV J XY31 +. And served as president. President of the Wilderness Society. Here's today's environmental statistic on this day in Minnesota. Sports disappointment history.

[Chris Reivers]

Who'd we lose to?

[Joe Sushore]

Well, it's at this time of year we just start to.

[Chris Reivers]

Rattle off.

[Joe Sushore]

Rattle them off. That's the word I wanted. January 13th of 1974. Vikings lost Super Bowl 8 to Miami in Houston.

[Chris Reivers]

Was that the undefeated.

[Joe Sushore]

I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

No, that was 72.

[Chris Reivers]

You're right.

[Kenny Olson]

Jim Langer.

[Joe Sushore]

We just had a date on the 11th or 12th that the. Yesterday the 12th. They lost Super. Their first Super Bowl. No, to the second Super bowl or their fourth one. They lost to Pittsburgh in New Orleans. On this day.

[Chris Reivers]

Joe. Today is January 3rd, 13th, 2005.

[Joe Sushore]

Straight cash, homie. That's all it states. But it was Randy Moss about giving a 10 grand fine for the Fake Moon to Packer fans.

[Chris Reivers]

That's right.

[Joe Sushore]

Straight cash, homie.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, speaking of the Dolphins, very quickly, did you see who might get the job?

[Joe Sushore]

I didn't.

[Chris Reivers]

Don Shula's grandson, Chris.

[Joe Sushore]

Really? Yeah. That's interesting.

[Chris Reivers]

I think that's kind of cool.

[Joe Sushore]

Who's gonna get the job in Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh? I don't know. Because he's gone.

[Chris Reivers]

Think so?

[Joe Sushore]

I think so.

[John Height]

Tomlin?

[Joe Sushore]

I think so.

[John Height]

Not unless he wants to.

[Joe Sushore]

All right. I. I kind of like him. I hope he doesn't get canned. What about LaFleur? I think he'll stay in Green Bay.

[John Height]

Yeah, he won't get canned.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. Well, thank you. G ellers Football talk there. Yeah, I just thought that.

[Chris Reivers]

Don Shuler.

[Matthew]

Are you ready?

[Joe Sushore]

Yes, it is.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, do us a favor. Hit the subscribe button right there on the Garage Logic YouTube channel. That's right, Garagelogic. We've got a YouTube channel where you can watch the show each and every single day.

[Josh Arnold]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Sushore]

The other knees on its own, just.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Sushore]

Huh?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I missed that. You tell me that again.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

It is to time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold. Is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free, yes, I used the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero OBL obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, this week inflation and earnings, they're both on the table this week, aren't they?

[Josh Arnold]

They are on the table. They are on the table and that could create a little bit more volatility in the market. Add to that some of the issues in Venezuela and right now in Iran. And the price of oil which had been trending down last week, took a nice jump today on protests in Iran which could interrupt the supply of oil. Add to that President Trump saying anybody doing business with Iran is going to get hit 25% tariff on their goods coming into the United States. Now that adds to it. But, and I do say but a year ago at this time price of oil was is about $78 a barrel currently at 61 which has been a nice, I'll say relief valve on inflation as energy costs are a good chunk prices or are embedded in prices across the board, whether it's electricity, whether it's delivery of food, whether it's for manufacturing, building your house or getting around energy costs definitely become important bedded in in prices. And with oil coming down in price over the last year, that has been a big help in reducing inflation. The CPI number came out today for December and came in slightly below estimate at 0.2% month for the month versus a 3.3% estimate and 2 point year over year versus 2.7% estimate. So the inflation number is trending we'll say the right way. Nonetheless, housing prices in the last month and year over year were higher than expected as, as were cost of medical care and airfare. Now I'll touch very quickly on airfare. Delta reported their numbers today there and they were mixed. They beat pretty handily on the bottom line. They were a little short on the top line. Delta did say they were going to add about 30 new Boeing aircraft which probably would be a nice boost for, for Boeing as well. Delta did say that a good chunk of their revenues came from people like like me Chris who tend to fly in the premium seat. One, I like the additional leg room as I have long legs, short torso and 2 I want the additional space so I'm willing to pay up for that for my, for my trip. Others might not like that but that's just, that's just me. But Deltas did see some pretty pretty good old overall strength in travel going to help other travel related companies including Bookings Booking.com and Expedia going going forward when they report their their number. Another interest in the airline is local sun country getting bought by Allegiant Air that should and that the price is $18.80 $0.89 A combination of stock and cash but with that purchase that could provide some more sun country flight we'll say out of Terminal 2 in this, in this area. Now back to the CPI number airline prices we said were going up. Housing prices went up, medical care went up and the other big big number going up in the CPI FBI was electricity costs. Why does electricity costs go up? Well you've got a lot more demand for electricity not only from homeowners but businesses and also data centers are using tremendous amounts of electricity and also this is my estimate cost of proving the grid has, has gone up. So with, with inflation we'll say still it's still a 2.6% year over year. The Fed which right now is the Fed chief is under fire to me unnecessarily. But with the Fed now faced with their target of percent inflation inflation still way above that, job growth has slowed. The jobs participation number has come down to 62.4% which to me is not a good number. The Fed could be in a predicament at their next meeting on whether to keep interest rates flat or start cutting them more than they anticipate. To me, however, it's not so much cutting interest rates but it is cutting out the Fed's restrictive policy of selling bonds into the marketplace place which drives I'll say drives yields up and drive prices down. I would sooner the Fed stop their quantity or their quantitative tightening policy and go to a more neutral stance or even start buying bonds back. When it comes to mortgages, however, President has been pushing for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac start buying mortgage bonds back in an effort to start bringing down the rate on mortgage loans and that would be a good thing. Meantime JP Morgan reported their their numbers they beat but I'm not going to say handily their stock price is down. Indeed today The Dow is down led by, led by some technology companies that are having I'll say been having some issues including oil Oracle and Microsoft and IBM and salesforce.com down significantly. In addition to the banks, the banks down on concerns we'll say about interest rate positive in the Dow. You gotta, you gotta build. And Caterpillar has continued to do well as well as favorite Apple being up. One other issue that is hurting banks and is hurting the credit card companies is a proposal by the president to cap credit card interest rates at 10% per year. This, this is something I'm looking at in terms of the overall effect short term. Well that's positive for people that have bigger outstanding balances making their monthly payments go further to reduce principal. On the downside it could mean that bank and credit card card companies start limiting or eliminating a certain borrower and that is not so good. We'll cover that more in depth in the coming weeks.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Josh Arnold]

Yes, we will. And we'll say prayers for your son.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you sir. Have a great day Josh.

[Josh Arnold]

Thank you, you too.

[Chris Reivers]

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