1/14 We are worried about the loss of Joe Thompson and his fraud team

Summary

Garage Logic – January 14, 2026

Episode Theme:
The show dives deeply into the fallout of U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson’s resignation, the state of fraud investigations in Minnesota, ICE activity in the Twin Cities, political polarization, and a sense of malaise among Minnesotans over governance and public trust. The “Garage Logic” crew combines sharp skepticism, local color, and their signature irreverent banter to dissect serious regional and national issues.

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1. The Loss of Joe Thompson and the Minnesota Fraud Team

[02:36–15:24]

The Main Event: Thompson’s Resignation

• The episode opens with listener Steve Wilson’s vivid hunting analogy capturing the show’s mood after a wave of U.S. Attorney resignations, particularly that of Joe Thompson, whose work in pursuing Minnesota fraud cases had garnered widespread respect.

  “He was onto something with the fraud and doing a great job unearthing evidence every day. This trophy would make him go down in history...” – Joe Soucheray, [02:50]

• Soucheray lays out Thompson’s credentials and career trajectory, clarifying that he did not suddenly appear for the fraud investigation but had long served in the district.
• Review of Thompson's role in major recent cases, including the investigation and indictment related to the Minnesota legislator shootings in 2025 and federal grand jury indictments against a suspect, Vance Belter.

Fallout and Uncertainty

• The show discusses the circumstances of Thompson and five other prosecutors resigning, reportedly related to disputes over investigating both an ICE agent and the widow of Renee Good (killed by ICE).
• Dan Rosen, a commercial litigator with little criminal prosecutorial background, is now the new U.S. Attorney for Minnesota.

  “It’s kind of disconcerting to know that Rosen has never prosecuted a criminal case, but he was Trump’s choice…” – Joe Soucheray, [09:38]

• The hosts’ concern: Will Rosen continue the aggressive pursuit of fraud, or will these cases “be put aside”?

Notable Quotes

• “Thompson might have been a real gift from the heavens. We don’t know how he was.” – Joe Soucheray, [10:43]
• “As far as we know right now, today, the investigation into the fraud is over.” – D (Kenny), [12:56]

Memorable Segment:

• Speculation and humor about Thompson’s potential political future, with the panel half-joking he should run for governor given his perceived integrity and leadership.

  “I pray to God he’d run for governor... Does that seem implausible to you all?” – Joe Soucheray, [15:03]

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2. The Broader Landscape of Fraud and Immigration Enforcement

[14:13–36:46]

Diluted Accountability

• Hosts worry that, with so many agencies now touching the ongoing fraud investigations, real leadership might be lost.

  “When that many people are the boss, there is no boss. Thompson was the boss and... he got stuff done.” – Joe Soucheray, [15:03]

Political Context in Minnesota

• Population breakdown of the state and Twin Cities metro: how non-metro voters are consistently outnumbered, spelling tough prospects for any Republican office seeker.

Minnesota’s “Culture” Shift

• Soucheray posits the state, especially the metro, is losing traditional respect for law enforcement and national borders, blaming what he terms the “failed academy” and “Mysterian” (ideological) voters.

  “The metro area is chock full of Mysterians. ...They don’t believe in borders because they don’t believe in countries.” – Joe Soucheray, [18:06]

• Numerous reminders that “Mysterians” are synonymous with progressives who desire to dissolve traditional structures.

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3. On-the-Ground: ICE at the MSP Airport & Community Impact

[26:21–32:34]

Field Insights: Rookie’s Airport Report

• Rookie recounts ICE’s increased presence at the airport causing anxiety among the diverse workforce and some not reporting to work out of concern for questioning.

  “There are a lot of employees that are nervous...and are afraid to report to work due to the fact that they may be questioned.” – Rookie, [27:43]

• Explained secure badges (“CITA”) and federal jurisdiction at the airport.

Effects on Local Businesses

• Discussion of Mexican and immigrant-run businesses closing early or suffering lost business due to the atmosphere of fear.

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4. Ilhan Omar and the Fight over ICE

[32:34–37:33]

Congressional Calls to Defund ICE

• Soucheray delivers an “Ilhan Omar update,” highlighting her and nearly 100 House Democrats’ pledge to defund immigration enforcement agencies.
• Panel skepticism about the practicality and sincerity of the movement.

  “It’s a pretty good story in the sense that the Democrats are fighting each other.” – Joe Soucheray, [36:55]

• Hosts doubt any large shift will happen, arguing political self-preservation will win out.

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5. Local Policing: Minneapolis Paid Leave and Morale Crisis

[37:58–46:14]

Officers Leaving En Masse

• 60–70 Minneapolis police officers reportedly file for Minnesota’s new paid family and medical leave program, a symptom of low morale and anti-police culture.

  “They’re working in a culture that has found police to be contemptible.” – Joe Soucheray, [38:34]

Bureaucratic Snafus & Predictions of Inefficiency

• Panel pokes fun at the possibility of government workers rubber-stamping (or denying) police leave applications, sparking laughter and skepticism about the system’s competence.
• Echoed belief that the new leave program will be “rife with fraud,” channeling the show’s central theme.

  “It’s not going to work, and it will be rife with fraud.” – Joe Soucheray, [45:04]

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6. Listener Voice: Email Reactions and Minnesota Malaise

[75:31–86:19]

Class Action Proposal

• Reader Tom Cullen proposes a class-action lawsuit against the Minnesota legislature for “fiduciary malfeasance”—mismanaging taxpayer funds.

  “A successful action would refocus attention on running the state properly, restore confidence in self-governance, and help make Minnesota a place that attracts builders rather than those who exploit broken systems.” – Tom Cullen email, read by Soucheray, [77:00]

• Hosts and listeners express feeling like it’s time for legal action, lamenting diminished accountability.

Expat Minnesotans

• Resurfacing of Scott from Inver Grove’s letters, expressing defeatism and his intention to leave Minnesota out of frustration with state leadership, policing, fraud, sectoral decline, and the “leftist cabal.”

  “I simply can’t take it anymore and I do not believe that things are going to get any better in this once great state to live in.” – Scott from Inver Grove, [85:41]

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7. National News & Press Freedom

[64:52–72:20]

FBI Raids on Reporters

• News break: FBI raids Washington Post reporter’s home for investigating a government contractor.
• Soucheray is apoplectic about government overreach targeting journalists.

  “That’s as appalling news as you’ll hear all day. Nobody died, but they might as well have.” – Joe Soucheray, [64:52]

• Spirited debate on the balance between First Amendment freedoms and national security, with classic back-and-forth bickering.

  “I’m opposed to reporters’ homes being invaded by the government, period.” – Joe Soucheray, [72:20]

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8. Positive Diversions and Odds & Ends

[48:41–55:18; 87:18–end]

Community Health: Play for Patrick

• Quick interview with Mike (Schoonover Body Works) on youth athlete heart screening—a local bright spot.
  • “We screened, I don’t know, 140 some odd kids and found six kids with some abnormal results that are going to need some attention…” – Mike, [49:36]

Listener Diversions: Cars & The Who

• Listeners email about classic cars and rock memorabilia, lightening the mood after heavier topics.
• Banter about car accessories and high school memories, with trademark self-deprecation and comic tension.

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9. This Date in Minnesota History

[92:09–96:55]

• Tradition of closing the substantive show with a look at notable Minnesota anniversaries from the Lymans in New Zealand.
  • Notables: Ann Bancroft reaching the South Pole [94:14], teachers’ strikes, the “Minneapolis Miracle,” and Vikings playoff heartbreaks.

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10. Notable Quotes & Banter

• “I think most Americans would still prefer to have a country.” – Joe Soucheray [36:42]
• “There is no boss. Thompson was the boss and… he got stuff done.” – Joe Soucheray [15:03]
• “This is flat out not going to work.” – Joe Soucheray [42:37]
• (Sarcastically, on government bureaucracy):
  “Not till I finish today’s crossword. Puzzle. And I gotta get a new cup of coffee.” – Kenny, [41:35]
• “You know, you just mentioned his name. How funny would it be if Governor Tim Walz applied for the Paid Family Leave Act?” – B, [46:04]

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11. Key Takeaways

• The resignation of Joe Thompson and his skilled team spells genuine trouble for the prosecution of fraud in Minnesota; leadership voids may result in loss of accountability.
• The layering of federal and state agencies can dilute responsibility, with little faith among the Garage Logic crew that new leadership will match Thompson’s zeal.
• A climate of pessimism pervades: law enforcement is undervalued, bureaucracy unreliable, politics ever more polarized, and residents are considering drastic steps—including lawsuits and leaving Minnesota.
• ICE enforcement spurs deep anxieties and protests, both among immigrant communities and the progressive bloc of Minnesota politics.
• Despite the heavy topics, the show intersperses humor, nostalgia, and community connections—reaffirming Garage Logic’s identity as a bastion of “common sense” and skepticism about government power.

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Timestamps Overview

• Thompson’s Resignation: [02:36–15:24]
• State & Political Analysis: [16:21–21:10]
• ICE at the Airport/Local Businesses: [26:21–32:34]
• Ilhan Omar/Defund ICE: [32:34–37:33]
• Police Paid Leave/Morale: [37:58–46:14]
• Audience Voices (Emails): [75:31–86:19]
• National News/First Amendment: [64:52–72:20]
• Positive Diversions: [48:41–55:18; 87:18–end]
• Minnesota History: [92:09–96:55]

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Garage Logic stays true to its roots—fierce in skepticism, wry in tone, local in focus, and unafraid to take swings at both government dysfunction and contemporary cultural shifts.

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Hail the Flashlight King.

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Hail you. And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reivers manning Technology Corner, Kenny Ol Crabby Coffee Shop, John Height in the newsroom and of course the rookie. Here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susher. I have an interesting email from Tom Wilson. Is it Tom Wilson? Oh my God. Just a minute. Steve Wilson.

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Steve.

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Steve, our buddy Steve. He's up and aching. He was in the wife carrying deal or he won a contest or something at the fair.

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The rare gler that's rode the shuttle with us to the state fair.

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Well, he has a good take on what happened to Joe Thompson and the others who resigned yesterday. He has an analogy and he starts it with this Hail the Flashlight King.

[B]

Hail you.

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Not very enthusiastic or missing a member. Yesterday's episode got me thinking about Thompson and the rest of them resigning. He was onto something with the fraud and doing a great job unearthing evidence every day. From a professional standpoint, this trophy would make him go down in history as the one who brought down the Minnesota fraud. So here's a hypothetical scenario. Thompson gets a tip from his boss Trump where There's a massive 30 point buck and encourages him to go after it. That is the fraud. Off in the distance he sees it. He starts sneaking up on it, advancing closer and closer. The safety is off. Then a marching band playing 76 Trombones Ice comes into the woods between Thompson and the trophy. Leading the band is his boss Trump. The trophy disappears off into nowhere. And Thompson is standing there saying what the hell just happened? Being a hunter who's been in that situation before, there is no need to stick around now because all the action is gone. Might as well pack up and go home, which is what Joe Thompson is doing. It will be interesting to hear the rest of the story. That's my 50 Cent opinion. Steve Wilson and Aiken. That's pretty good. It's a pretty good analogy.

[D]

One of two possibilities. But yeah, all right.

[A]

Here. I did some homework. Check it on out the the attorney for Minnesota is Dan Rosen. He succeeds Help me Andy Luger. Andy Luger. And we learned that. And I'm just learning that Rosen was sworn in as recently as just this past October 10th.

[D]

Yeah, we talked about it at length.

[A]

Right. And he took over for Andy Luger who served non consecutive terms as Minnesota's top federal law enforcement official under Presidents Obama and Biden. Democrats held up Rosen's confirmation for months, but The Senate voted 5,147 on Tuesday. This is back in October to confirm and more than 100 other nominees. Throughout his 30 year legal career, the US Navy veteran and University of Minnesota law school graduate focused on commercial litigation, primarily eminent domain cases. He does not have experience prosecuting criminal cases. He takes over again written back in October. He takes over as the Minnesota U.S. attorney's office continues to focus on prosecuting fraud schemes involving involving child nutrition programs, a Medicaid housing program and a state autism treatment program under Lugar. The office has also prioritized the prosecution of Minneapolis street gangs using a federal anti racketeering statute. Excuse me. Assistant U.S. attorneys Lisa Kirkpatrick and Joe Thompson took turns leading the office temporarily after Lugar stepped down in January. So Thompson, Thompson has been around Minnesota. He didn't just perhaps that's widely known. I just want to clear up the misconception, if there is one, that Thompson suddenly appeared in May of 2025. To investigate fraud. No, he was. He was in the, in the. He was a U.S. attorney for the District of Minnesota. And in fact, on June 2nd of 2025 this past summer, Trump appointed Thompson to be the US Attorney for the District of Minnesota. And at that point, Thompson had succeeded Kirkpatrick as Acting U.S. attorney and Andrew M. Luger as U.S. attorney. Thompson was serving as U.S. attorney for the District of Minnesota during the 2025 shootings of Minnesota legislators. The U.S. attorney's office investigated the shootings in partnership with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, the FBI, the Minneapolis Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, and a wide range of other agencies. On June 16, 2025, Thompson led a press conference announcing the apprehension of Vance Luther. Is it Bolter or Belter? Belter. Belter. On July 15, 2025, Thompson announced six federal grand jury indictments against Belter. On January 13 yesterday, Thompson resigned his position in the District of Minnesota along with five other prosecutors, reportedly due to a disagreement with a push to investigate the widow of Renee Good, the Minneapolis woman shot and killed by an ICE agent last. In fact, what was it, a week ago today? A week ago, along with the department's unwillingness to. To investigate the agent who killed her. So that he had been around and he was filling various positions and he was really making his mark with the indictment of Belter and the fraud. And now we have Andy Rosen. I'm sorry, Dan Rosen, in charge now. Is Dan Rosen going to select a team to continue the prosecution of fraud? I don't know why he wouldn't, but there's no news on that. I don't know. It's kind of disconcerting to know that Rosen has never prosecuted a criminal case, but he was Trump's choice to become the Attorney General, the Minnesota State attorney and the U.S. attorney for Minnesota, Dan Rosen. And apparently, I think what we can deduce is that Rosen accepted what was told to him by his superiors, that Minnesota will not be involved in the prosecution or indictment of this ICE agent. You. And also, we learned that Thompson, that might have been a straw that he didn't want to accept, especially investigating the widow, because he was probably wondering why, what, what, what does that have to do with anything? So, so Thompson and his team reside. And now Minnesota is left with a new U.S. attorney, Dan Rosen. And we don't know where Rosen, which, which direction Rosen intends to go on the fraud. It would seem. It would seem very difficult for Rosen to appoint a six person team headed by a new Joe Thompson to pick up where Thompson left off. Thompson might have been a real gift from the heavens. We don't, we don't know how he was.

[D]

Yeah, he definitely was.

[A]

And his absence, I'm afra, will help facilitate what I predicted yesterday. The conflating of fraud and immigration is going to cause the fraud to be put aside in this state 100%. And that's to our detriment, that's to our regret, that's to our loss. In Minnesota.

[D]

Can we be the only. I don't know, we're not a news outlet, the only program, the only podcast that actually brings up the fact that Thompson nor any of the attorneys, none of them have stated publicly why they quit. We're all relying on unnamed and unmentioned sources within. But none of the sources have been named with their ties to Joe Thompson and the team. And like I said, nobody has said why. And I see a lot of people jumping to conclusions about why Joe quit. And like Joe has always faced heavy, heavy criticism from both sides of the aisle. And the same is holding true right now. Both sides are criticizing him for made up reasons why he quit. Until they speak, we don't know.

[A]

No. But I'm going to continue to speculate because that's what I do.

[D]

That's what we do.

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I think that I'm wondering if Thompson and I called him again. I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm sure he's in demand. I, in fact, I happen to know where he'll be this Friday. He'll be in Naples, Florida, speaking to the Minnesota Club of Naples, Florida, where I have moles and maybe we'll learn something. I continue to suspect. I don't know what I suspect. I suspect that he was very irritated that the likes of him and his talented team could not be counted on to investigate the ice shooting. I think he took that as a slap in the face.

[D]

I'm not getting myself worked up about that. But I'll tell you what I am extremely worked up about. And you mentioned it. As far as we know right now, today, the investigation into the fraud is over. The people that have been prosecuted, you know, thank God he got as many as he did. But there's no future going forward at today anyway.

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And according to Thompson, which is not speculation, there is much more to uncover. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. And that's why I'm so disappointed. Yep.

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Are you willing to share the thought you share with us publicly or is that. Was that a no?

[A]

Which one?

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About what his next step is going to be?

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Thompson, I didn't know I knew what his next step was. What are you talking about?

[B]

You had two different theories about why he decided.

[D]

Yeah, the first two weren't good. The third is the most obvious.

[B]

Chris, you had a couple of theories about why he decided to resign from.

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His current policy, and he just brought up the third and most plausible. The other two aren't plausible. Okay, Joe, here's the only hope we have.

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I mean, I, you know, we're getting.

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Weighed down in something that doesn't need to be discussed, to be honest.

[B]

My apologies, Joe.

[D]

The only hope we can. We can hang our hat on is. And up until today, I was upset about this. There are at least nine more government bodies investigating the fraud.

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Nine.

[D]

FBI, Homeland Security, Citizenship and Immigration, Department of health and human, U.S. postal Service, the Treasury Department, and of course, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Oh, and the House Oversight, the U.S. house Oversight Committee. All of those people have their own separate investigations going. Let's hope one of those groups are good at their job.

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Thompson seemed to have a great ability to make stuff happen, though. He just got it done.

[D]

He was. He was the man. He was.

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Done.

[D]

Yep. Yep.

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And now what you're telling me is that you've got. When that many people are the boss, There is no boss. Thompson was the boss and he bleep happened. He got stuff done. I pray to God he'd run for governor, but. Does that seem implausible to you all?

[D]

To me it doesn't.

[B]

Yeah, he can join the other 68.

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Democrat or Republicans, but he has an immediate leg up on everybody.

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For sure.

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For sure.

[D]

We don't even know.

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But I have no idea if he. I have no idea if he would even be interested in politics.

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Right. Do we know his politics? I guess I don't.

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I. I don't. Yeah, I don't.

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I would. If he resigned for the reasons we're talking about, though I think a lot of people would find that highly principled if he did run for governor. So at least if you get a mix of issues and they know why he resigned, if that's the reason, I think people would tend to lean his way.

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It's not unprecedented for a U.S. attorney with conservative ties to resign due to conflicts with the Republican administration. It's happened before.

[A]

John, do me a favor. What is the population of Minnesota? I think currently it's what, three point. Oh, no, no, it's damn near six million people.

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Is it that high?

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5.

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5.87 million.

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Okay, now can you discover of the five point. Let's just call it. Let's call it six million just to make this easier.

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Okay.

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Of the six million, how many are in the seven county metropolitan area? I'm going somewhere with this.

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Maybe that's the 3 mil that I was thinking of. About half.

[A]

Yeah, about 6 million people in this state. How many live in the seven county metro area? Some people would even make it more counties than that. But I'm sticking to the seven counties.

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Between 3.16 and 3.2 million people as of the last counting. So a little more than half.

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Yeah. So that, that really makes a tough road for a Republican candidate for governor. The Republican candidate. I was gonna say a Republican candidate for governor should completely ignore the metro seven counties. I know that's maybe unrealistic, but completely ignore them and lock in the rest of the state. But even then, even then you might lose.

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I got news for you, that already happened.

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Well, but my point is Walz didn't.

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Even campaign outside of the metro.

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And it turns out he didn't have to.

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He didn't need to.

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You know, I want to expound a little bit on what I said yesterday about the culture that has developed in Minnesota is a disregard for law enforcement in general. And that's my story and I'm sticking to it. But I thought of another reason why that's true. I really do think that the metro area is chock full of Mysterians. By Mysterians I mean people who don't believe in this country and wish for a deaf. Different setup. It's reflected in those we elect. For example, it stands to reason, and this goes hand in hand with the disregard for law enforcement. If that's true, that we're. The metro area is pretty much a wasteland of Mysterians. They don't want a country, Mysterians don't want a country. So it's very valid Mysterian ideology to have what we, the rest of us call illegals here. To Mysterians, they wouldn't be illegal because they don't believe in borders, because they don't believe in countries. So therefore it's perfectly understandable what we're seeing here in terms of protesting, of protesting. Ice, not only is there a disregard for law enforcement in the metro, generally speaking, there is the belief. And just look at who you've elected and you have a. You don't. These are people who would just as soon there not be a United States. They don't believe in borders because that suggests privilege or unfairness or it rubs their Marxism the wrong way. And it's not just happening here. My God. New York elected is self admitted Marxist. It's happening in this country. And I just forgot to mention that yesterday, part of this turnout of ICE protest is not only the horrible optics of it, but it's that these are people who, who don't believe that anyone is an illegal person. We're all the same. We all should have the same equity. We shouldn't have borders because that reflects poorly on the founding of this country. That means we cling to the founding of this country. And I'm convinced Mysterians don't. I'm convinced Mysterians have disabused themselves of the idea that this was a wonderful, wonderful established country. They don't want any part of it. They don't work hard and they don't want to. And they just, they don't want any part of this to the point where.

[D]

They will put their lives in jeopardy to stop it. That's revolutionary, Joe. I mean that's how the Revolutionary War started.

[A]

And they wouldn't put their lives in danger to defend this country, to defend the idea of the United States.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. That's incomprehensible to me, Joe. I don't understand it. I've said it many times.

[A]

Well, I'll go back to the ones I always blame. The failed academy has done a wonderful job of teaching these young people that this is a lousy place to be.

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[C]

What's Cook county, where's that?

[A]

Cook is up by Ely. Up in that area.

[C]

He won that one big too. Which.

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There's a lot of hippies in Ely.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

That's the whole north shore. Well, he's right. Yeah.

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We are joined by our airport fellow rookie who is late. Tell us only what you can tell us.

[E]

I do apologize for being late. I had an 11 o' clock meeting that had to do with ICE and their presence at the airport. ICE is at the airport and they. We don't know what they're targeting, we don't know who they're looking after. But there are. Mac has allowed ICE to roam the airport on the secure side and the non secure side. They can't board an aircraft, they can't board the jet bridge, they're not side of badged. But they are able to have a presence at the airport and they're looking for something specific which I really don't know what that is. They have their own agenda. But I do know that airport wide, not just our company, all companies included, there are a lot of employees that are nervous and are afraid to report to work due to the fact that they may be questioned. And ICE has a, I don't know, a operative where they go and they look for someone. If they don't, they start asking somebody else questions. And that's what those people are afraid of.

[D]

What's the demographic of the average airport worker?

[E]

We have got Mexicans, we've got Somalis, we've got Ethiopians, we've got all parts of Africa, Canadians. I mean there's really nobody that's an untouchable. And that's what the majority of airport employees are worried about. And some of them are not coming into work as a result of that. Now technically, if you have your CITA badge and you've gone through everything.

[A]

Whatsad means cita.

[E]

CITA badge is the badge that clears you. It's yellow, it's blue.

[A]

Is that an acronym for something?

[E]

Yeah, it's an identification. If you have that identification at the airport, you're allowed access to certain parts of the airport. And if you have that, you have one. Yes, I got pretty good access. You've been vetted with questions from the airport Police. Are you clear? Do you have your paperwork? If you have that cited badge, you're pretty much okay. However, if you're telling that to someone that is working and is still nervous, they're not gonna potentially believe that.

[A]

I have a question.

[B]

You said that they needed permission. I always was under the assumption that the airport was under federal restriction or federal, you know, surveillance.

[E]

Well, they have, they can access like a leo, a law enforcement officer that can come through so they can get through the screening process.

[B]

Gotcha.

[E]

And then they can look for whoever they're looking for. And my, to my knowledge, they're always looking for someone specific.

[A]

You know, for a guy who claims to care a great deal about business, Trump is, however, indirectly is really killing a lot of it. I noted, for example, there's a great Mexican presence across the Robert street Bridge in St. Paul.

[E]

El Burrito Mercado.

[A]

Yeah, there's a great Mexican presence there. Markets and restaurants and they're all either closed or they all close early. And so that's become a very quiet.

[E]

I know of people that are afraid to get off of the bus coming home from the airport to make the 30 yard run to get to their apartment building.

[A]

Well, so we don't know based on what you've seen, we don't know if what ICE is up to is successful or not.

[E]

I think they've had some success in who they're looking for without being specific. But I think there's more to come and I think they're specifically looking for others that may be leaving the country.

[A]

May I have an Ilhan Omar update if you can find. Here is your latest Ilhan Omar report on Garage Logic. Well, speaking of the mystery, Ilhan OMAR and nearly 100 other Democrats say they will not fund immigration enforcement. They have not provided details about how the federal government should handle criminal illegal immigrants if ICE is defunded. I think the likes of Ilhan Omar would just assume that illegal immigrants are not prosecuted. I don't think she believes in this country, nor do I believe she likes this country. She likes the stuff in this country. Omar and nearly 100 of her colleagues are vowing to defund Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol. This follows the shooting of good. A week ago today. Funding for the Department of Homeland security, which includes ICE and Customs Border Patrol, expires on January 30th. So what? 15, 16 days from now, the group of Democrats, members of the left wing Congressional Progressive Caucus, is pledging to vote against all future funding for immigration enforcement, citing a laundry list of alleged abuses by the agency. We cannot and we should not continue to fund agencies that operate with impunity, that escalates violence that undermines the very freedoms of this country, omar told reporters yesterday. Ice has no place in terrorizing Minneapolis or any American community. Together we will stand united to ensure we put a check on the pattern of violence and lawlessness from this administration. Okay, I would be more comfortable if she tells me what alternative she has in mind.

[C]

Right.

[E]

What's planned?

[A]

Well, obviously there's a better alternative than violence, but what is her plan? Democrats Delia Ramirez described ICE agents as criminals in masks while supporting her colleagues efforts to defund the agency. We need to prosecute the criminals in masks and cut back ICE's funding, Ramirez said she believes Christy Noem should be impeached. Democratic lawmakers did not provide details about how the federal government should handle criminal illegal immigrants if ICE is defunded. I think these 100 people, including Omar, should be asked, do you wish for there not to be any immigrant enforcement whatsoever? Because part of the mystery is they don't want a country in the first place and a border is what you need to have a country. The law is clear on the removal of such immigrants who may have criminal records. Were not opposed to that, retiring Illinois Democratic Representative Chai Garcia, a member of the Progressive Caucus, told the Democrats. What we're opposed to is the trampling of constitutional rights, the racial profiling, the use of masks, the deadly use of force, garcia said. The disrespect that agents show in our communities has never been inflicted on any community in recent history, and that's what really is at the heart of this mess. Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader, has not taken a position on funding immigration enforcement. On Monday, he sharply criticized the $75 billion infusion allocated to ICE and Trump's one big beautiful bill Act. No Democrats voted for the tax and spending cut package, which Trump signed into law in July. It's important to understand that a lot of the funding for ICE that is currently being unleashed on the American people was provided not through traditional appropriations process but in connection with the one big bill, jeffries told reporters. The definition the I'm sorry. The effort to defund ICE is likely to encounter opposition from moderate Democrats and party strategists worried about the political consequences because they're worried about their they don't want to lose this gig. They're on a third rail. Third Way, a center left think tank that has previously called on Democrats to ditch politically toxic slogans and woke Jargon called on Democrats to distance themselves from the abolish ICE talking point. The impulse is emotional, the slogan is simple, but politically it is lethal. Sarah Pierce and Lenae Erickson, senior analysts for Third Way, said in a statement first reported by NBC. Every call to abolish ICE risks squandering one of the clearest opportunities in years to secure meaningful reform of immigration enforcement while handing Republicans exactly the fight they want. Former Democratic strategist Dan Turrentine warned Democrats yesterday that taking up against, that taking up defund ICE mantle is political insanity. Well, he's right. It is. I get, I get a hundred, I get 20 emails a day saying this is what I voted for. Meaning what? What's taking place in the Twin Cities? This is what I voted for.

[B]

What are the rest of your emails say?

[A]

Words I can't repeat. Yeah, you know, but I think it is political. And scene. I think most Americans would still prefer to have a country.

[D]

Are 100 Democrats enough?

[A]

No. No.

[D]

So it's kind of a non story, but I shouldn't say a non story. Nothing to worry about would be a better way to put it.

[A]

Well, it's a pretty good story in the sense that the Democrats are fighting each other.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. And it shows, it shows who they really are. Like we didn't know already, but we.

[A]

Knew who they are. They are people very keen on holding on to power and they'll go with. However, if they thought that defunding ICE would cost them their positions, they'll fund ICE in a heartbeat. And that's what these.

[B]

So it's grabbing a headline without any real action being taken.

[A]

Well, it sounds good today.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When push comes to shove, if they thought that would cost them an election, they wouldn't vote for it in a heartbeat.

[B]

It's the same thing as Keith saying he's suing Trump.

[A]

Keith Ellison, who worked harder for the last 72 hours than he did for the previous eight years.

[D]

And they're playing to the optics that are currently happening in Minneapolis.

[B]

Can I.

[A]

Yes. The optics in Minneapolis are horrible and they understandably result in today's Ilhan Omar update.

[B]

Speaking of all of that, may I offer this up courtesy of Liz Collin of Alpha News. Yes, you mentioned the defund, the police movement and we mentioned ice. Liz Collins is reporting two hours ago, quote, we're hearing from multiple sources that dozens of Minneapolis police officers, 60 to 70 so far, have turned in paperwork for Minnesota's new paid leave program. It allows up to 20 weeks of paid leave for personal or family reasons and comes at A time when morale is said to be at an all time low within the Minneapolis Police Department.

[A]

Is there working in a culture that has found police to be contemptible.

[B]

70. That's gotta be. What?

[A]

Who can blame them? What the hell?

[B]

15% of their.

[E]

That has to be approved by the state now so they can apply, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're approved.

[B]

True, but that's 15% of their workforce.

[A]

I can.

[C]

No argument.

[A]

You know, you just raised something interesting.

[E]

Where'd it go?

[A]

Reeves?

[B]

Should we high five?

[A]

No, your turn. Who exactly will be the state agent who determines the validity of the application?

[E]

Great question.

[B]

I know where you're going.

[A]

Well, I don't know where I'm going because I'm picturing a brand new bureaucracy that has to be created. They got to fill offices full of people. They got to get new computers and printers and copy paper and pens and staplers and then they got to put bodies in those seats. And in comes the application from Joe Brown, a Minneapolis police officer who wants to. Who wants to apply for the Family Leave Act. Who is it that puts their stamp of approval on it?

[D]

I have an answer. They have to follow a set of guidelines.

[A]

Nothing else in this state has worked following this.

[D]

Now you're stealing my goddamn thunder. Let me finish. Given what we've seen on every level of government, including this new Office of Cannabis, there ain't no guidelines. They don't know what they're doing.

[C]

That's a good point. The department, the Department of Employment and Economic Development will process all applications verifying any earnings and the reason for living. Living the reason for leaving. And if you are turned down, you have seven days to dispute that with the Department of Employment.

[D]

John, are there guidelines or is this all hanging on the mood of whoever got cut off in traffic this morning?

[C]

You know what I mean, Seeing no guidelines.

[A]

Well. Well, break it down further. The Department of. What is it? John Deed. Department of what?

[C]

Employment and Economic Development.

[A]

That's Steve Grove. Who left there conveniently enough to become publisher of the Star Tribune. That was his outfit. Okay, so DEED has an office and they're full of people. And so the big new offices that are created get these applications. Apparently the applications then have to be sent over to the DEED people. So that means somebody gets up in the morning and their job is to go to work for deed. And on their desk will be a pile of applications? Yes. And we're supposed to believe that these people will examine the earnings claim and verify any medicine?

[D]

Not till I finish today's crossword. Puzzle.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

And I got to get a new cup of coffee.

[A]

It doesn't smell right at all. Yeah, you in the back.

[B]

Can I. Can I tell you where I thought you were going? We're going to this office. Let's get back into the office. We've got the team of people that are either rubber stamping the thing and passing it through or denying the claim.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I was thinking you were going with who's gonna be sitting in this euphorian filled office going, police officer. Denied. You're running a cannabis shop.

[A]

Approved.

[B]

You're feeding kids.

[A]

Approved.

[B]

You're a police officer. Denied. That's where I thought you were going.

[E]

To give you some bias.

[A]

But. But the denial apparently had better be on firm grounds, because the copper's got seven days to appeal it.

[D]

John, do you see anything about following guidelines in your search?

[C]

No, I don't see. I see no guidelines at all. And in my head, all I see is the scene from Blazing Saddles where Mel Brooks is signing things.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Looking into the space.

[A]

This isn't gonna work. This is flat out not going to work.

[B]

No ass.

[E]

So we've had.

[A]

How many is it?

[E]

18,000.

[A]

Here's what happens. Here's what happens. Here's what happens.

[B]

Check it out.

[A]

Everything that happens in the state happens without consequences. In other words, there is no competiting force granting people paid leave with other people's money. What consequences do they face? They don't face anything. Their job is secure. They get great benefits. They get vacation. I'm not indicting any particular individual. There might be people who end up working for the Family Leave act who are qualified and competent and professional and are going to take it seriously, but they're about to be overwhelmed by the morons who aren't, including the governor. This is not going to work.

[C]

It gives qualifying reasons, but they're pretty. I mean, what are they, John?

[A]

Well, give me a couple.

[C]

Okay. Medical, meaning your own serious health condition.

[A]

Boy, does my knee hurt.

[C]

Family care. Caring for a family member with a serious condition.

[D]

Okay, pause, pause. Joe, very, very excellent point. You just had your knee replaced. You're my mom or you're Royce. You're that age. And the doctor says you're gonna be dancing the jig in five weeks. So then in stone written somewhere. Five weeks. But every case is different. It took eight weeks for my mom. It took four weeks for this person, seven. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah. You're going to be forced to go.

[D]

Back to work or whatever before you.

[A]

John, continue bonding. Welcoming A new child Bonding. That's using epoxy to form.

[D]

Really say that? Bonding?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

Military. Supporting a family.

[A]

Seven kids in our family. My father's idea of bonding was. What's his name?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Military is the fourth one supporting a family member on active duty. And the fifth is safety for yourself or family member facing domestic violence, assault or stalking. That's. Those are the five qualifying reasons.

[D]

Wait a minute. You're facing violence at home, so you're forced.

[B]

You're gonna stay home?

[A]

Why do you want to stay home?

[D]

I'm confused.

[A]

Like always, this will not work. It's a bad idea. It's a mysterious idea. It stems from holding capitalism in as much disregard as you hold law enforcement. It's just another way this Minnesota is careening out of control and going down the wrong path. I'm all for moms being able to, but most companies take care of this anyway. You're working for the Acme Nut and Bolt Company and your name is Amy Smith and you have your baby. I'm sure the guy who runs Acme Nut and Bold is gonna say, well, take some time. Get to know the kid. And then what's his name? See you back here. I just don't think this is necessary. It's going to be terribly expensive. It's not going to work, and it will be rife with fraud.

[B]

You know, you just mentioned his name. How funny would it be if Governor Tim Walls applied for the Paid Family Leave Act?

[E]

He may have to bond with someone.

[A]

He fears for his safety.

[B]

I ain't feeling it.

[A]

He hasn't felt it since Daytron elected. Well, it's gonna be interesting.

[B]

It's gonna be fun.

[A]

And getting back to the. What started this? As many as 70 police officers allegedly have prepared documents seeking this benefit from the state. Can you blame them?

[B]

Not one bit.

[A]

God Almighty.

[B]

The ones that actually decided to continue to keep working despite all of the things they've been dealing with. No, I can't blame any one of them.

[A]

Do you want us to turn to John Haidt now?

[D]

Stop calling and ask, please.

[B]

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[D]

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[A]

Hi, Mike, how are you?

[F]

Hey, Kenny.

[A]

So good.

[F]

Good to be here.

[D]

Yeah. Last week this one got bias. How come we didn't talk about. It was screening number 42 for play for Patrick and it was at the Bantam hockey tournament. How'd that turn out for you? Turned out well.

[F]

Turned out well. We had eight teams from the Metro and Outer Metro, you know, a team from Wilmer. Is Wilmer considered the Metro new?

[D]

But it will be within 10 years. So yeah, let's call it an outer outer ring suburb.

[F]

Yes. And so we, yeah, we, we, we screened, I don't know, 140 some odd kids and, and found, we found six kids with some abnormal results that are going to need some attention and some kids that had some high blood pressure. You know, this screen is really high or high. The screen is really hard for the high blood pressure when you're screening kids that, you know, were on the ice a half hour earlier.

[D]

Okay, that was my question. I Have the stats here. You guys ran 149 kids through there. You found 143 just fine, six like you said, abnormal, and quite a few high blood pressure cases. So I was wondering, I've been wondering about that. So if it was. If you screened the kids that were skating, I'm assuming the answer is yes.

[F]

Yes, we did. And some of the kids were screened before they ever played during the day. But as the day went on, we obviously were screening some kids that.

[E]

That had played.

[F]

Played the game. So, you know, so the important thing about that is in, in the number that we had was like 20 some odd kids that had a high blood pressure.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

After a second check, all we do with them is we just tell the parents and tell them to get it checked again and hopefully, hopefully it comes down. But if it continues to stay up, then they're just going to have to keep an eye on it. But, you know, these, you know, unfortunately we still have a lot of people in, especially young, young people, you know, utilizing those highly caffeinated drinks.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

To get jacked up for athletic event or whatever. So it's hard on the heart and, and obviously it does raise the blood pressure. So we just make them aware of it and hopefully they will, you know, keep an eye on it and make sure that it doesn't. Cause it doesn't. It's not problematic, you know, further down the down.

[D]

You killed my next idea. I'm just assuming that all teams, the trainers or whatever, have a blood pressure cuff. I've got, I think I have three of them. They're no big deal. You buy them in a drugstore. Right. My idea was to screen the kids before and after. But you're right, these kids, they're taking the Monster Energy and Red Bull and whatnot before the games, aren't they? So you. I don't think you'd get a peer reading before the game either.

[A]

No.

[F]

So, but it's. Again, it's just more of what we're doing is just more for the awareness and you know, the six families or the six kids that we identified as having an abnormal result, you know, there's 143 families and 143 kids that can feel, feel some calm that, you know, their heart is in good, good shape. That means they still have to take care of themselves and yeah, they still need to, you know, let's not drink the Monster Energy drink. Right. Before you go out on the ice or do anything that's highly competitive, we're gonna make your heart race.

[D]

So Right.

[F]

We're just bringing awareness to it and hopefully folks are taking some of that and making good decisions.

[D]

Teach any CPR?

[F]

During the screening we did, we, we, our numbers were a little down because folks seem to be in a little.

[D]

Bit of a hurry.

[F]

And it's always funny, a lot of people say, when we say, hey, go practice your CPR and how to use an aed. You know, a lot of folks say that I'm certified. And it's like, well, that's great. You know, you can still practice. So, you know, we don't, we don't require it, we just highly recommend it. And, and, but we still, you know, I think we trained 80 some odd people on how to do CPR and how to use an AED. So that's, you know, that's the other tool in our arsenal is just trying to get as many people out there trained so that if somebody does go down, we have somebody there to help.

[D]

My policy is take a CPR class every chance you get. I mean, that would have been a great way to spend time while your kid's out on the ice or you're waiting for your kid to play. Just go get a tune up. It's no big deal. I mean, they're not going to test you. Oh, wait, wait, let me retract that. Hopefully you won't have to be tested, but if you are, you'll know, you'll know how to do it.

[F]

Yeah, it's Giles.

[A]

Go.

[F]

Go learn how to do it and go practice it. And there's classes or even just Google it online just so that you, that you can identify what it looks like for somebody who's having sudden cardiac arrest.

[D]

Meanwhile, I believe I saw on the website playforpatrick.org that your next screening is April. Did I see that right?

[F]

It was my April 18th at Little Mountain Elementary School in Monticello.

[D]

We'll be talking about that more as that date approaches. Meanwhile, anything you need related to auto repair, you can get it right there in Shoreview at Schoonover Body Works and Auto Care. They are the official shop of garagelogic. Always rated as one of the top shops in the Metro. Just ask schoonoverbodyworks.com is the website. Thank you, Mike.

[F]

Thanks, Kenny. Thanks, Jellers. You guys have a great positive Wednesday.

[E]

Do this.

[A]

The Earth is not your mother. The Joe Sugiray show. Here's Johnny Height.

[E]

Sounds like kind of a long show today, doesn't it?

[A]

No, this news especially for you. You just got here.

[C]

Yeah, short timer. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company story we talked about a bit earlier. A federal judge declined so far anyway to halt federal immigration operations in Minnesota, but says it still could happen at a later date. During a court hearing regarding Minnesota's lawsuit over the influx of federal immigration agents in the state, Judge Catherine Menendez said there wasn't enough time to assess the merits of the request and fully evaluate the federal government's position by this morning. However, the judge did set a deadline of January 19th or next Monday for the government to respond and then next Thursday, January 22, for the state to reply to that. A decision on the temporary restraining order could then be made later this month. The judge said she was hesitant to grant the TRO to end the current influx. I keep trying to get rid of surge you see of us.

[A]

Oh, it's everywhere today, John.

[C]

I know it's on headlines even of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Patrol agents without first hearing the federal government stance on whether such an action would be within the scope of her powers.

[B]

You know, because you mentioned that yesterday when I was monitoring Minnesota's newspaper, the Minnesota Star Tribune this morning online, of the 87,000 stories they had about ICE, 90% of them in the headline had the word surge.

[A]

It was an easy prediction.

[B]

Well, no. Take, take a bow.

[A]

I was too ish.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Hey, you called Mike Tomlin. Stepping down. Take another bow.

[C]

Protesters again took to the streets last night, increasing the volume to make their opposition to immigration enforcement ops in Minnesota known. Hundreds of people gathered outside the Graduate by Hilton Hotel on the University of Minnesota campus, holding signs, honking horns, ringing bells and blowing whistles to disturb U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement agents that they believe are staying at the hotel. The event made for a noisy demonstration outside the hotel, the second large protest outside a Hilton owned hotel in the cities in the past week. On Friday, at least 29 people were detained after a demonstration outside the Canopy Hotel in Minneapolis. Police showed up at the Graduate shortly before midnight and dispersed the crowd. University of Minnesota police say the protest resulted in property damage and hazardous conditions for the public and law. Law enforcement and three people were arrested. No injuries reported. Other protests were also held across the metro last night, including one on St. Paul's east session into the killing of that woman by the ICE officer in Minneapolis. The decision to keep the Justice Department Civil Rights Division out of the investigation marks a departure from past administrations which have moved quickly to probe shootings of civilians by law enforcement officials for potential civil rights offenses. While an FBI probe is ongoing, lawyers in the civil rights Division were informed last week that they would not play a role in the investigation at this time. As we talked about yesterday, roughly half of a dozen federal prosecutors in Minnesota resigned and several supervisors in the criminal section of the Civil Rights division in Washington D.C. also gave their notice of their departures amid turmoil over the federal probe of the shooting. Star Tribune reporting Some businesses in the Twin Cities are, well, they're dealing with this situation with the uptick. I gotta go with uptick. Can't do that either can I? How about, let's see. Surge Larger numbers of federal officers in Minnesota employers are dealing with detained employees, enacting safety measures for workers and navigating public communications about officers actions in the Twin Cities. Bill George is a longtime Medtronic CEO. He sat on the board of several companies including Target. He said business leaders top obligation is to protect employees well being. He said the times are extremely stressful for businesses. The upswing in federal office, George said, is certainly not helping growth, jobs or innovation in Minnesota. Minnesota Department of Employment at Economic Development Commissioner Matt Verelec said in a statement. ICE's actions are having a negative impact on businesses large and small. George said. He's the longtime Medtronic CEO. He said it's time for Minnesota employers to make a statement. He said how can you expect a committed, loyal workforce if you're not there to have their back when they need you?

[A]

Let's just make it official right now. Surge is foghornable. I'm not going to wait officially phrase that correctly.

[D]

Let me tell you something right now John. I use amping up a lot in the morning.

[C]

You know what, I'm gonna write that out John.

[B]

I was gonna ask if you had gone to thesaurus.com in an attempt to provide your newscast.

[C]

I actually went to. I just googled synonyms for surge. Why don't we take a quick break here and hear from Mr. Reivers.

[B]

You know what? When I think about an increased demand of snack consumption I think about wearenuts and we are nutsmn.com let me get their graphic right here.

[D]

Yeah please.

[B]

The young man watching the Timberwolves game last night woofed down after his basketball game an entire jar of cinnamon toffee peanuts after he had $15 worth of taco Bell. Cause that kid's a calorie furnace right now.

[E]

You didn't ride with him at all today, did you?

[B]

Oh God no.

[A]

Put him on the bus.

[B]

Let Dennis take care of him.

[A]

The school bus blew up.

[B]

Oh my goodness gracious. But the cinnamon toffee peanuts are the dessert snack of choice in the Reivers household. And you know what? When you go to weearnutsmn.com you can see their entire menu of snack items. The Cashews are a big hit in the sushery household. The Maple Bourbon Toffee Almonds are also a crowd favorite of the entire GL staff, but they are handmade right here in the great state of Minnesota by a wonderful family owned operation. You can get them at any one of your Fratelloni's Hardware and garden stores locations Max Hardware Lunch Johnson, Barleys, Kowalskis, Coburn's, Johnny Height Let me know that Market County Market County Market has them and also available at Kwik Trip. But once again check them out online and place your order. If you can't make it to any one of those [e-mail] and let them know that you heard about them on the garagelogic podcast.

[C]

Johnny Some national and international news this one shouldn't surprise anyone. Americans are increasingly rejecting the two major political parties, according to new polling. Just under half about 45% of U.S. adults now identify as independents, according to the new Gallup survey. That's a substantial shift from 20 years ago, when it was more like one third of Americans said they didn't identify with Democrats or Republicans. The group appears increasingly to be driven by their unhappiness with the party that's in power, according to Gallup's analysis. That's a dynamic that could be good for Democrats, apparently in this year's midterm elections, but doesn't promise any lasting loyalty for either party. Independents have gravitated toward the Democrats over the past year when asked which party they lean toward, according to Gallup. But attitudes toward the party haven't gotten any warmer. That suggests Democrats gains are probably more related to the independent's increasingly sour views of President Trump. Younger people in particular are rejecting the parties at a much higher rate than older generations. More than half of Generation Z and Millennials identify as political independence, while a majority of older generations side with the party. That's different from the past, when more young adults identified with the Democrats or the Republicans, and part of the reason why frequent dramatic swings in political power may be increasingly normal in the United States as of right now. And of course, this could change. As we can tell from the polling, Democrats regained an edge with political independence. President Trump said yesterday starting February 1st he will deny federal funding to any states that are home to local governments, resisting his administration's immigration policies, expanding on previous threats to cut off resources to so called sanctuary cities themselves. From a legal standpoint, the threat seems a bit iffy. Two previous efforts by Trump to cut off some funding for sanctuary jurisdictions were shut down by the court. There is no strict definition for sanctuary policies or sanctuary cities, but the terms generally describe limited cooperation with ice. In an executive order last year, the president directed federal officials to withhold money from sanctuary jurisdictions that seek to shield people in the country illegally from deportation. A California based federal judge struck that down despite government lawyers saying it was too early to stop the plan because no action had been taken. And back in President Trump's first term in 2017, the court struck down his effort to cut funding to the cities. FBI agent searching a Washington Post reporter's home On Wednesday as part of an investigation into a government contractor accused of taking home government secrets, the FBI searched journalist Hannah Natenson's devices, seized a phone, a Garmin Watch at her Virginia home. According to the Post, Natenson covers the Trump administration's transformation of the federal government and recently published a piece describing how she gained hundreds of new sources, leading a colleague to call her the federal government whisperer. While classified document investigations aren't unusual, the search of a reporter's home is extremely unusual and marks an escalation in the government's efforts to crack down on leaks. Attorney General Pam Bondi said the search was done at the request of the Pentagon.

[A]

Well, let me tell you, go. That's as appalling news as you'll hear all day. Nobody died, but they might as well have. The federal government you're not for this is ransacking the home of a reporter because they might disapprove what the reporter is finding out. That's.

[E]

You find that troubling?

[A]

I do.

[E]

I do.

[D]

There weren't government secrets there that would.

[A]

Harm the United States. Jesus Christ. Reporter's home by the FBI Grow the bleep up, okay, Joe. Jesus Christ. Okay. It's outrageous. Outrageous.

[C]

The Trump administration poised for crunch talks with the Greenlandic and Danish officials today amid the president's ongoing push to take control of Greenland. Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Maurtsfelt and her Danish counterpart, Lars Loki Rasmussen, great name. Are expected to convene at the White House for talks with U.S. vice President J.D. vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Trump doubling down on his aggressive rhetoric shortly before the high stakes meeting. In a social media post this morning, the US President said anything less than Greenland becoming a part of the US Is, in his words, unacceptable.

[A]

Should. Should walls dispatch agents Kenny to go inside my house because I'M about to reveal the names of his agent heads who were most directly involved in fomenting fraud.

[D]

Did this involve government secrets or not? That was my secret.

[A]

I know that's not, that's not even germane to this.

[D]

That harm.

[A]

Not even germane to it. Not even Germany.

[D]

Just asking a question.

[A]

Well, you're for a friend. This is outrageous. Absolutely outrageous. Bill and Hillary Clinton protest something. This you could add to the list. You could protest this.

[C]

Bill and Hillary Clinton, she was obtaining.

[D]

And reporting classified and illegally leaked information from a Pentagon contractor.

[A]

That's what, that's, that's. I don't care. It doesn't change my mind.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I'm not trying to change your mind. I asked a question.

[C]

Bill and Hillary Clinton refusing yesterday to testify in the house's Jeffrey Epstein investigation. That escalates a months long battle with its republican leader, representative James Comer of Kentucky who quickly said he would take steps to hold them in contempt of congress. The Clintons wrote in a lengthy letter, every person has to decide when they've seen or had enough and are ready to fight for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences for us.

[A]

Now is the time Pentagon papers were released that helped end a war. I'm sure those were considered violent.

[D]

I apologize for asking vital secret.

[A]

Those were terribly secret.

[D]

I apologize for asking a question and for not sitting on your lap and sniffing your neck and being your number one sycophant. Jesus Christ.

[E]

That's my job.

[C]

See Kenny, you talk reporting with Joe, you talk music with me. You get the same damn reaction.

[D]

Just asking a question.

[A]

My God.

[C]

Let's see where was you guys made me lose.

[A]

I don't know where you were.

[C]

The death toll. I shouldn't smile.

[A]

I don't want the government in the homes of reporters. That's. That's a bad thing.

[C]

The death toll from protests in IRAN has surpassed 2,500 people with arrests exceeding 18,000. That according to a U. S based rights group relying on activists inside the country. They have to rely on those activists because there's a nationwide Internet blackout and that's restricted information. And the Iranian government hasn't released casualty figures. But state television yesterday acknowledged for the first time that many have died. Meanwhile, Iran's expected to execute a protester today for the first time during the current wave of anti government unrest. He is 26 year old Irfan Sultani. He's from an area west of the capital of Tehran. He was arrested January 8th and he's been denied access to a lawyer or any other means to mount a defense. According to the Norway based Hangow Organization for Human Rights. A statement by the human rights group said his family was also kept unaware of the judicial proceedings and was allowed only a brief final visit before the.

[A]

Scheduled execution on the crabby coffee shop. Today. I want to hear Kenny say, I approve of the Pentagon going into this reporter's home and taking her watch or laptop and going through her mail. I think that would be something you should say.

[E]

Look, something to look forward to.

[D]

We're doing a show based on fact.

[C]

Some good. Some good health news. A five year cancer.

[A]

That was a fact. That's what they did. Oh God.

[C]

The five year.

[B]

How about Mike Tomlin stepping down?

[C]

What's that? Hey, Chris. The five year cancer survival rate in the US has reached 70% for the first time according to the American Cancer Society. That figures based on diagnosis from 2015 to 2021 is up from 49% in the mid-70s and only 63% in the mid-90s. The ACS attributes the rise to wider and earlier screening, lower smoking rates and advances in targeted and immunotherapy treatments. Immunotherapy treatments Survival has improved across most major cancer types including thyroid, 98% for thyroid, 98% for prostate, 95% for melanoma and 92% survival rate for breast cancer, although racial, economic and regional disparities persist. According to the numbers, myeloma blood cancer survival nearly doubled to 62% since the 1990s and liver cancer survival more than tripled to 22%. Rates were lowest for cancers of the lung, 28%, liver, 22%, esophagus, 22% and pancreas, 13%.

[A]

Kenny, it might be this simple. I'm of a generation that didn't trust the government and I still don't. It's that simple. I just don't trust the government.

[D]

I enjoy national security and a safe usa. I'm not for people leaking important information.

[A]

We don't know that that's what took place.

[D]

Documents.

[A]

We don't know that that was the case.

[C]

A new bleach.

[A]

I think the standards have been lowered for how a reporter might be examined.

[D]

Well, the Obama administration set records on the number of journalists that they spied on and prosecuted.

[A]

Obama did.

[D]

Yeah. So it's not. I mean, we can't let the. This isn't a political issue is what I'm saying. This isn't a right versus left. All presidents have been doing this. There's an act that was put in place in 1917 to protect national Security.

[A]

There was an act put in place called the first amendment.

[D]

I understand your outrage. Again, I was asking a question and you've decided to attack me for asking.

[A]

Oh, I've been attacked.

[D]

Oh, no, Joe. See, see now, now you're resorting to mock. Feelings are hurt, which does not help your argument.

[A]

I'm opposed to reporters homes being in invaded by the government, period.

[E]

I'm going, Rodney.

[C]

Is that your final answer, Joe?

[A]

That's it, John. That's my.

[E]

I'm going Rodney King. Can't we all just get along?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, a new bleak sounding app has taken China by storm. The app is called are you dead? The concept.

[A]

I think I am.

[C]

The concept is pretty simple. You need. You need to check in with it every two days, clicking a large button.

[A]

I'm not going to do that, John, because I'm already aware of whether I am or not.

[C]

Well, see, but you just don't want to sit there for days. And that's a problem in China because a lot of young people in China, they live alone.

[A]

Well, plus the government will tell them whether they're dead or not.

[C]

They're downloading it in droves. It's propelled it to become the most downloaded paid app in the country of China. According to research institutions, there might be up to 200 million one person households in China by 2030.

[A]

Wow. And they have to be told whether they're dead or alive.

[F]

No.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

No.

[A]

What's the, what's the point of the app? I guess I missed that.

[C]

Okay, let's say us five, we live. All of us live alone.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we want to know if, hey, I want to tell the guys I'm alive. So every two days I hit the button saying I'm alive.

[A]

Oh, I get it. Okay.

[C]

Cnn, everybody. Or, you know. Yeah, everybody knows you're alive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's for the elderly is what you're trying to say.

[D]

It's nobody know.

[C]

It's for young people. That's the whole point of the story. Did you, Chris?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

John.

[D]

John. It doesn't matter. Nobody. It's nobody's business on whether or not I'm alive.

[B]

That's a. Kenny raises a very good point because here's the other thing I can't stand.

[D]

Have you guys alone.

[B]

Have you guys ever been driving and you have your phone, your iPhone plugged into your. Your. Your vehicle? Of course, everybody.

[A]

I haven't never done it.

[B]

Has it ever. Have you ever dropped it by accident or it's fallen off the seat or wherever it's sitting?

[A]

No, never.

[B]

It will call ems.

[A]

Well, that hasn't happened to me.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Have you ever been driving and been tempted to run it directly into a bridge abutment at 80 miles an hour?

[A]

Did you ever have a dream where were one of those dreams where you have a dream?

[C]

Kenny just did the Annie hall bit where the Christopher Walken character says, sometimes when I'm driving in the rain, yes, I see lights and I just want to turn into the other car.

[A]

And Woody says, I have to get back to Earth now.

[C]

I have an appointment back on the planet Earth. Do you want something?

[A]

Have you ever had a dream that. That you. You have. Dad. You'll. You. You could. You'll do. You would. You want. You. You could do so. You.

[C]

You do.

[A]

You could. You. You want. You want him to do you so much you can do anything. Yeah. Every day that happens on this show. It happens during the show. Yeah, during the show. Thank you, Johnny.

[C]

You're welcome. Yeah.

[A]

I want to tell you something.

[E]

Yeah, what are you gonna tell some right now? I need to know.

[A]

That's Ilhan. We already did that. FBI SEARCHES HOME OF WASHINGTON REPORTER well, we don't want.

[B]

Let's go back into that.

[A]

We don't want to do that. We don't want to do that. How about this? He'll recall our friend Tom Cullen was upset a year ago about this time, figuring, what the hell, I'm not being represented because the dflers won't go to work. And he was going to pursue that legally. And it just took its twists and turns and it never. Nothing ever came of it. He was going after Bianca Virnig and he wrote us last week, and now he's got a. And he mentioned last week the possibility of filing a class action lawsuit against the state for the loss of our money. And before I read his note, stop to think about that. If fraud is not going to be pursued, and we don't know that yet, what do we have? What alternative do we have to try to set things right? We don't. Well, let me just read it.

[E]

You mean get the money back or fully prosecute?

[A]

Both.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Joe, I'm writing to follow up on my previous note where I shared the very real position of my business and my daughter's young family now find ourselves in forced to consider leaving. Leaving Minnesota simply to preserve the ability to grow a business, afford housing and manage the basic realities of child care. I want to restate clearly and calmly the action I'm asking you and the fine citizens of Gumption county to consider. I believe there is A practical, nonpartisan and uniquely garage logic Path forward the formation of a collective legal action focused on fiduciary malfeasance by the Minnesota Legislature. Not red, not blue, just common sense accountability for the management of public money. As garage logicians, we tend to share a worldview that is fiscally conservative, socially moderate and grounded in responsibility. We also recognize that polarization has become a trap, one that distracts from the basic expectation that elected officials act as competent stewards of the resources entrusted to them. When I last wrote, the public conversation quickly veered toward tragedy, outrage, and issues we are ill equipped to solve emotionally or legislatively in the heat of the moment. Meanwhile, the structural failures that can be addressed waste, fraud, neglect and the abdication of fiscal responsibility remain untouched. The suit I'm proposing is not about ideology strategy. It's about severing mismanaged purse strings through the courts where facts, evidence and fiduciary duty still matter. A successful action would refocus attention on running the state properly, restore confidence in self governance, and help make Minnesota a place that attracts builders rather than those who exploit broken systems. Elections alone no longer feel sufficient when an electorate has been made dependent on government for survival rather than empowered by achievement. That isn't a moral judgment. It's an observable outcome. And it leaves too many people, including our children, robbed of the belief that effort leads to opportunity. This is why I believe a class action suit has merit. Fiduciary malfeasance is not abstract. It's measurable. It's provable, provable, and it's correctable if citizens are willing to act together. I see this as the voice of the people, expressed not through outrage but through lawful constitutional action. A sane, practical response to a system that has drifted far from stewardship and accountability. I hope you'll consider whether garagelogic might be the right place to start that conversation. A class action suit in adjudication in the court may not win, but it will draw the attention needed to affect change and unite us respectively. Tom Cullen I'm on board. I will contribute what I have to contribute to help organize that. I would be on board.

[D]

I Wonder if a GoFundMe page would be the right thing to do here. Maybe because I see this costing a lot of money unless you could find a lawyer that will work pro bono.

[A]

But he's right. Despite the conflicting ideologies at work here, we Minnesota citizens have been victimized by poor management, malfeasance. We have been victimized by incompetency and a lack of husbanding. The Money that's been sent to the state. I don't know if. I mean, legal authorities would have to weigh in. Is that a lawsuit or isn't it? Is that a class action suit or isn't it? You know, maybe it's one of those class action suits where you sign in and each gets 69 cents, I don't know. But I like the idea and I like his approach. It's a non ideological approach. It's fact based. We have sent you money, you have poorly managed it. Can we do something about it?

[E]

In any other business, you would take your business elsewhere. Never do business with that outfit again.

[A]

That's correct.

[E]

You know how that works.

[A]

Do you know I always used to read notes from Scott from Inver Grove, who signed off. Scott from Inver Grove. Always pushing back. Remember that? And we haven't heard from him in ages. And I've always wondered what the hell happened.

[D]

Yeah, I remember.

[E]

You asked me.

[A]

Well, thankfully he's alive and well and he writes hail the Flashlight King. Hail you. That was better. Since last year's presidential election, I've been suffering from what I would call writer's block and a sense of malaise and ambivalence about continuing to live in a state that used to be a heck of a place to live. Last November we had an election in which we had to choose between two candidates so deeply flawed in character that it was basically a matter of plugging your nose, voting for the one who theoretically would do the least amount of harm. By March, Trump, the narcissist in chief, unveiled a ridiculous tariff scheme that would supposedly punish the economies through the entire world, including our own. As somebody who has a degree in economics and has been an admirer of the great economist Milton Friedman, it doesn't take much thought to realize that the American consumer was going to take it on the chin as manufacturers and retailers pass along the higher cost, the consumer. Meanwhile, we found out that billions of taxpayer dollars have been stolen by the Salamis Somalis that have been allowed to flourish within the Twin Cities. This, of course, under the nose of the so called Governor Dear Leader Walls, who up until a week ago was planning to run for yet another term. The man has absolutely no shame and should actually be facing criminal charges for his lack of fiduciary responsibility to the Minnesota taxpayer. Pause. Isn't that interesting that we just got done with Tom Cullen's suggestion that a class action lawsuit should be filed? I would gladly contribute to it. Now ICE agents are in the Twin Cities deporting individuals with criminal records that are here in this country illegally. Tragically, an agent shot an agitator during a harried moment when one of the agitators attempted to flee the scene. Predictably, the left of center crowd places all the blame on the agent and not an ounce of blame on the woman who was told to get the bleep out of the car. The last time I checked, one needs to listen to law enforcement even if one doesn't agree with them at the moment. She would be alive had she done so the other way. And now we have the leftist cabal of Walls, Fry and Ellison urging these mostly disillusioned cat loving white women to hassle and disrespect these ICE agents. I can only think of the movie Braveheart where the ruthless King of England Longshanks opts to send in the Irish as the expendable first wave of cannon fodder when going against William Wallace and the forces. And just the other day Arne Carlson, a Republican in name only, goes on a rant about Trump and the rule of law, totally glossing over the fact that living in his country illegally is against the rule of law and forgetting that under the BIDEN ADMINISTRMENT Some 5,000 illegal aliens were deported from the state of Minnesota by ICE agents, yet not a whimper from those left of center zealots. Meanwhile, the national Debt stands at $38 trillion and is exponentially climbing. That, Mr. Mayor, should keep anybody awake at night, yet we don't even hear a word about it in the media as these ivory towered third rail politicians continue to spend like drunken sailors on leave. It is for this reasons that I have decided I am in the process of building a home in the middle of nowhere in northwestern Wisconsin. I simply can't take it anymore and I do not believe that things are going to get any better. This once great state to live in and has been your auto and has been your motto for many years. Good luck because we always needed, never afraid and pushing back. Scott from Inver Grove So he's going to leave? I don't think he's whistling in the dark there. I think he'll probably leave.

[E]

You don't think he's whistling Dixie?

[A]

And many, many people would would share his sentiments. But many people for a variety of reasons could not leave. I know. Let me.

[B]

You're speaking for a friend.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll save this one because it's similar from a fellow who did move from here to Florida. I'll read that tomorrow. And I do want to point out that I Also have an email that has nothing to do with fraud or ICE or FBI rating reporters.

[E]

Is it a beach?

[A]

Is it.

[E]

Is it a positive?

[A]

It is. It is. Joe, I always enjoy the logic and reason provided by you and the guys. I also enjoy when the show takes a diversion into other subject matter. I need a break from the news, so thank you. This is regarding the $15 million paid for the comic book.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[A]

In 1968 my brother who was 18 years older purchased a new 68 Plymouth Fury. The three in metallic gold. It had a 383 V8. It was a pretty cool car to a seven year old. Sometime after I spotted a similar looking car driving around South St. Paul. It was a mopar of some type with a giant spoiler on the back of the car and a black stripe on the trunk with a Super B logo on it. Nice. I've never seen a car like it again. I even searched the Internet. I included a picture of a similar vehicle. This would be my choice of a dream car. A 1969 Plymouth Super B. And there it is. He had a great picture of it.

[E]

Well, Super B with the fin on the back. Just in case that thing decides to take flight.

[A]

That would be called a spoiler in.

[E]

Case he's gonna take flight.

[D]

I think Richard Petty said he ran this one year and he said he'd have his foot all the way down. Down the front, front stretch and the back. The pressure on the back of the car. The back wheels was so high and so firm that he could turn the steering wheel from lock to lock and not go anywhere.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

That's how much down pressure it had.

[A]

Matt, those aren't fins. Those are.

[E]

Yeah, they keep the car from flipping.

[A]

It's a foil of some try.

[E]

It's like those little Hondas that.

[A]

Not down with this guy. Not done with his letter.

[E]

Cruising down university.

[C]

I have of a car question.

[A]

I'm not done with it.

[C]

Okay, I'll flip it over. Take the heat off Rook.

[A]

I always enjoyed hearing about your music related memorabilia. As a teen I started collecting ephemera by the who. I answered an advertisement in the back of a music magazine once to purchase several items from a seller who happened to live in Bloomington. I had included my phone number along with my payment for the items. Became pleasant. Pleasantly surprised that the seller would be happy to deliver my items to my home address right away. I'd be a nervous red flag. I was a bit skeptical but agreed. The seller stopped by and we had an enjoyable conversation about our favorite band, the who. I Recall the year being 1982 and the WHO were still a big deal. After the transition was complete, the seller, as if there was something asked if there was was something really cool that he. After the transition was complete.

[B]

I bet it meant transaction.

[A]

The seller asked if there was something really cool that he had, but there was not for sale at any price. I asked the seller if he had something really cool that he had for. But it was not.

[C]

Do you ever have a dream.

[A]

Have you ever had a dream that he wanted to know if the seller had any other stuff but it wasn't for sale. All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He went to the car and pulled out a very large envelope. I was very curious. He opened the envelope and pulled out a large remnant of a Slingerland bass drum skin. It was allegedly from the smash drum kit of Keith Moon. That item would be my dream memorabilia from the music world. I would also love to own a part of a guitar smashed by Pete Townsend. This is from Randall. Thank you, Randall. Yes, John. You had a question about cars?

[C]

I did. I'm looking it up. As you read that I was looking it up. My brother purchased a roadrunner in about 1970. 71. And it had a thing on the hood that stuck up.

[A]

Air scoop.

[C]

Air grabber. Yes.

[A]

Well, it wouldn't be a grabber, John. It would be an air scoop. It would feed a little cooler air down to the carburetor scoop.

[C]

It a very cool car. But he had to sell it when he went in the Navy.

[D]

A little known fact about those hood scoops, John. The bigger the hood scoop, the smaller the penis of the driver.

[A]

Aha.

[E]

Figured that.

[C]

No, I heard that was trucks.

[D]

Sorry, I was trying.

[A]

Same thing applies there by my car. I'm now getting nervous.

[E]

So tell me about small.

[A]

It's a small, small one.

[D]

So John, I have, I. I own three trucks. Only one of them is a big truck though.

[C]

Three.

[B]

What's your question?

[A]

What was your question?

[C]

The who.

[E]

Back to the who thing. So the last item he had was a. A who flag that had been soaked in chloroform and he wanted to take a good whiff of it before they went downstairs.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[E]

Nothing. I. I thought you said he had one surprise item for.

[A]

He did. He had a busted up drum head. I thought it was smell like chloroform.

[D]

Are you rapping here, Joe?

[C]

I want to.

[A]

I want to do this date in history.

[D]

Yeah, I want to. Before you do that, today on Crabby, we're having former U.S. attorney Tom Heffelfinger on he was actually the U.S. attorney for Minnesota twice. And we're going to talk about Joe Thompson leaving. We're also having a fellow on named Dave Fine walks. He was the lead attorney for the Minnesota Hospital association and he knows Medicaid up the one side and down the other. We're going to talk about the feds trying to pull funding for Medicaid, which has been appealed.

[A]

Heffelfinger will be a great guest and I hope he tells you how difficult he believes it will be to continue to pursue the fraud.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. And he also resigned and had some political problems with administration too. So good guest.

[A]

That'll be a must. Listen, that's Crabby Coffee, which is recorded.

[D]

Today and released this evening.

[A]

It was. It's only because they these come to us all the way from Kaiwaka, New Zealand by the traveling Lymans. It was on this day, Joe.

[B]

Today is January 14th.

[A]

In 1846, Stillwater's first post office was established with Elam Greeley as postmaster. You could spend the rest of your life coming up with a name of a pioneer postmaster and not get a better one than Elam Greeley. On this day in 1850, the Minnesota Territorial Supreme Court opened for its first term with Judge Aaron Goodrich presiding. On this day in 1938, the Hallie Q. Brown House, named for the African American civil rights advocate and suffragist, moved into its first permanent building in St. Paul. It offered tooting tutoring.

[D]

Whoa.

[E]

Free toots.

[A]

It offered tutoring and day camps for children. That's before the state got involved in fake daycare as well as emergency food and clothes. That's before the state got into fake emergency food.

[B]

What did they offer?

[A]

Emergency food and clothing for needy families. The community center later relocated and combined with the Martin Luther king Center in St. Paul. On this day in 1976, Sauk Center.

[B]

It's up by Saint Cloud Sauk Center.

[A]

Sauk center teachers ended a week long strike after the the teachers association and the school board ratified a contract settlement that called for a salary increase with an additional 25 minutes of supervisory time and provided teachers with no less than 250 minutes a week of prep time. On this day, January 14th in 1993, Ann Bancroft of St. Paul reached the South Pole by skis, becoming the first woman to travel overland to both the north and South Poles. She led the American Women's expedition on a 67 day trek during which the four women covered 660 miles on skis. Additionally, in 2001, Ann Bancroft and Liv Arneson became the first women to ski across Antarctica. On this day. In 1993, the movie Iron Will, a fictionalized account of a 1917 dog sled race from Winnipeg to St. Paul opened nationwide. Albert Campbell, a Metis man from La Paz, Manitoba, won the real race, which was part of St. Paul's Winter Carnival. The first written account of any dog sled race detailed a trip from Winnipeg to St. Paul in the 1850s.

[B]

That was a great movie.

[A]

On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history. On January 14, 1977, the Fighting Saints played their last game of their second go round as a franchise.

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Is that where Boudreaux and all the guys raced to the bank to get the check?

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On this day, January in 2001, the Vikings lost the NFC championship. 41 Nothing to the Giants.

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That was 25 years ago.

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41 Zero. Dip.

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Donut. Donut rice is one of Rice's top five.

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I was there on this day, Jan.14 in 2018, the Minneapolis Miracle. Who caught that?

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Diggs.

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Yeah. Stefan, right?

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Yep. Yep.

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Is he having a kid with Cardi B?

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He's having a kid with a lot of people.

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I think he's got kids everywhere.

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He's got summer kids.

[A]

Yeah, summer kids. Some are there.

[B]

Some are. On this day, 41 donut.

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Jan.14, 2020, Bruce Boudreau. Funny you mentioned him. Bruce Boudreau. Lineup card mistake caused the team to play with only five defensemen. Bruce forgot to put one of them down apparently. Whoops. I didn't know they were so strict on that. That's interesting.

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Gotta have him on the card.

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You must have to hand your lineup card to the ref.

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Like the baseball.

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Yeah. And if your guy isn't on it, he doesn't get to play.

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Supposedly.

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That's.

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That's really checks that stuff.

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I mean, apparently they all do. Matt.

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I wouldn't do that.

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Thank you, G.L. thanks, Bruce. Thank you.

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Do us a favor and don't listen to any audio that's currently coming from the YouTube channel, because Lord knows that's been so much fun. But you know what you can do is you can hit subscribe and watch the show live on YouTube each and every single day, starting right around noon until it craps the bed on us. But you can also follow us along on all of our social media channels, which includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That's an email that comes right to your inbox each and every single day. And it includes most recent episode of the podcast. And also sign up and become an annual town council member and you can become the GL er of the week, sponsored by our friends at masters maples and mastersmaples.com it is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going, Josh, and he is there for you for that. Free, Yes, I use the word free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, I know this is a loaded question, but is the growth of the AI chatbot, is that going to somehow impact software companies going forward?

[G]

That is a loaded question and the market is trying to figure that out. But, but the growth in chatbots, whether it's from OpenAI's ChatGPT anthropic quad, Xai's Groq, which has some other issues altogether, or Google's Gemini, not to mention some of the products coming from China, whether it's China's Deep Seat or products from Alibaba or Baidu or even Tencent, seem to have been creating a little bit of fear in the enterprise software market as Companies, companies like Salesforce.com, serviceNow and others have seen their stock sell off in rapid fashion since the beginning of the year. It is believed by some on Wall street that the chatbots and artificial intelligence supersedes the need for the software product of these leading enterprise companies and that has, say, adversely hit their stock price, probably know more about how they'll respond when their earnings come out over the next several, several weeks. But in the meantime, these stocks have been definitely beaten down. At the same time, you know, we've seen money come out of companies that had been leaders in the last year, year and a half, artificial artificial intelligence, including Nvidia, which had reached a high just a few months ago and has been trending lower since. Nvidia is now cheaper on a price earnings basis than Intel. So it's kind of, kind of interesting as intel has seen its stock rocket up on several upgrades, plus of course, praise from President Trump and a and money comes into the company from the US Government and recent upgrades have suggested that intel is is on a leading edge for chip manufacturer, particularly for a server chip where there is is a shortage. I'm not so sure that that is necessarily going to be the case, but intel is approaching a high that it hasn't seen since 2023. Intel is also a company that is still, I'll say is still below, I'll say still trades below its 2000 high. The other company that trades below its 2000 high is Cisco and both Intel. Cisco, two of the Four Horsemen that led the market in the late 90s and into 2000. The others are Oracle and Microsoft. In terms of these enterprise software companies, right now I'd be a little bit, I'll say more than a little bit cautious about investing even as they approach a new new low. If you want to look in that space, I think it'd be better served looking at, we'll say looking at Google or even Nvidia who makes does you do software on their chip rather than Salesforce ServiceNow. Meantime, we do have a big options expiration day on Friday, which could also be contributing to some of the selling that has been going on in the market.

[B]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him Gilers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugar coated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[G]

Look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

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