1/20 Great words from Daniel Strand on how progressive ideology will never lead to justice

Summary

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Garage Logic Podcast – Episode Overview (Jan 20, 2026)

Main Theme

This episode of Garage Logic, hosted by Joe Soucheray and the regular crew, explores contemporary responses to crises and cultural upheaval—specifically focusing on the fragility in public reactions, the dysfunctions of progressive ideology regarding justice and governance, and recent incidents involving ICE operations and fraud in Minnesota. The episode highlights critical commentary on the culture of emotional management versus resilience, the banality of government corruption, and the ways in which political identity politics undermine the public good.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cultural Fragility and Emotional Management in Response to Crises

• Timestamps: 06:14–15:07
• Joe Soucheray reads and discusses Callie Proctor's insightful Minneapolis Times piece, “The Quiet Indoctrination of Fragility.”
  • School closures and optional attendance after a police-involved shooting become case studies in teaching children “you can't handle this.”
  • Societal responses increasingly valorize retreat and emotional management over resilience and responsibility.
  • Quote: “The message being taught is not this is sad. The message is not this is serious. The message is, you can't handle this.” (10:01, Joe quoting Proctor)
  • Panel reflects on their personal reactions to COVID-era mass behavior, with Kenny (“full-on panic”) contrasting Joe’s more skeptical, stoic stance.
  • Kenny: “Are you surprised at what you did? I am shocked at what I did now that it’s five years, past six years.” (11:31)

2. Hypocrisy and Virtue-Signaling in Institutional Responses

• Timestamps: 15:03–16:49
• The hosts examine the inconsistency in institutional guidelines—cancellation for funerals, protests allowed, but class or sports events canceled.
• Quote: “It's worse than that, because then we pass that off as being virtuous.” (13:47, Joe)
• Deep critique of progressive virtue-signaling and “out of an abundance of caution” thinking.

3. Identity Politics and the Concept of Justice

• Timestamps: 24:48–28:15
• Introduction of Daniel Strand’s essay, “The Banality of Minnesota Fraud” from First Things.
  • Strand argues progressive ideology is rooted in a ‘hierarchy of victimhood’ which erodes common good in favor of perpetual grievance and identity.
  • Quote: “The dirty little secret is that for all their talk of the public good, Progressives do not have a conception of the common good because their conception of justice is rooted in a hierarchy of victimhood.” (27:14, Joe quoting Strand)
  • This framework, the hosts say, conveniently never casts the taxpayer or average citizen as a ‘victim’ worth political attention.

4. Minnesota Fraud, Media, and the Power of Social Media

• Timestamps: 28:15–34:21
• Joe reflects on Minnesota's ongoing fraud scandals and critiques the media narrative that gives outsized credit to social-media-driven exposes, overshadowing years of local reporting.
  • “That's the power of social media—he could get the hits for it and... he’s being highlighted as the guy who discovered fraud in Minnesota. That’s not the way it happened.” (30:42, Joe)
• The fraud story is now overshadowed by ICE activity, which the hosts call a “gift” to the Walz administration, diverting attention from state corruption.

5. ICE Operations, Protest, and Political Posturing

• Timestamps: 34:21–43:50
• Debate over the merits, missteps, and political fallout of ICE's recent operations in Minnesota.
• Critique of state leaders, especially Governor Walz, for deflecting blame and leveraging ICE operations for political gain.
  • “Walls is never going to go to bat for the taxpayers of Minnesota... He’ll go to bat for people who maintain a political identity.” (35:17, Joe)
• Minneapolis Councilwoman Robin Wansley criticized for ideological rigidity and putting political narrative over civic order.

6. Public Safety, Enforcement Failures, and Media Narratives

• Timestamps: 41:05–43:50
• Discussion of the ICE raid that mistakenly targeted a non-offending Hmong elder; scrutiny over lack of transparency and clarity from both ICE and media.
  • “There should be a briefing. I would like to know why they went there, why the mistake was made, and what we’re going to do to change it.” (42:26, Kenny)

7. Distrust in Government and the Erosion of Social Trust

• Timestamps: 24:48–28:15; 34:21–36:00
• Strand’s and Soucheray’s point that decades of corruption, lack of transparency, and political gamesmanship erode average citizens’ trust.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Callie Proctor (as read by Joe):
  • “Children do not need to be shielded from every hard thing. They need adults who believe they are capable of being in the world even when the world is difficult. When institutions repeatedly tell children that they cannot handle reality, we should not be surprised when they grow into adults who believe it. This is not empathy. It is abdication.” (22:11)
• Joe Soucheray:
  • “Progressives do not have a conception of the common good because their conception of justice is rooted in a hierarchy of victimhood.” (27:14)
  • “The taxpayers of Minnesota will never count as victims. They don’t have a political identity.” (35:05)
  • “He [Governor Walz] can go to bat for people who maintain a political identity...but not for taxpayers.” (34:29)
• Kenny Olson:
  • “Are you surprised at what you did? I am shocked at what I did now that it’s five years, past six years.” (11:31)
• Chris Reavers:
  • “So then I would like to have the camera set on there where it’s just... Well, it does make one wonder about the semis. Does it?” (60:27)

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Brevity, Music & Culture

• Music Segment:
  • Review and airplay of Jeff Dayton’s “When it’s Cold in Texas”, with lyrical analysis and a discussion on how genuine country music stands apart from formulaic, contemporary productions. (70:12-77:45)
  • Panelists bemoan the state of the genre: “As audiences increasingly gravitate back towards songs with spine, heart, and narrative integrity, Dayton sounds perfectly positioned.” (75:45, Joe reading reviewer)

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Additional Segments of Note

Political & Economic News

• Legal battle over Minnesota's attempt to halt federal immigration enforcement; likely to fail as federal government decries the lawsuit as “legally frivolous” and “politically motivated.” (47:55–51:35)
• Hennepin Healthcare faces financial crisis post-pandemic, risking job cuts and service reduction. (51:36–53:09)
• International: Trump tariffs against Europe over Greenland escalate into global financial jitters. (54:28–58:30)

Lighthearted & Cultural Content

• Several personal anecdotes about COVID, dog ownership, and book reports on tearjerkers like “Where the Red Fern Grows.” (23:03–23:37)
• Fun side-discussions on music, pop culture, and odd news stories—a man trying to ignite a shotgun slug in his mouth with a lighter, and a tragic bakery accident in Florida. (64:17–68:22)
• Discussion of country music, “honest” music versus AI-generated hits, and Mellencamp’s lone smoker’s “smoke shack” at Indiana University. (71:12–79:36)

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Timestamps by Segment

| Timestamp | Segment/Theme | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:14-15:07 | Fragility, emotional management, COVID/cultural panic | | 15:03-16:49 | Institutional hypocrisy, virtue signaling | | 24:48-28:15 | Daniel Strand’s essay: victimhood, common good, political identity | | 28:15-34:21 | Fraud in Minnesota, media/social media, ICE distraction | | 34:21-43:50 | ICE operations, Wansley/Frye, identity politics, enforcement failures | | 47:55-51:35 | Legal/civic: Lawsuit against ICE, hospital finance crisis | | 54:28-58:30 | Trump, tariffs, Europe, global economics | | 70:12-77:45 | Music review: Jeff Dayton, country music, authenticity |

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode is a blend of caustic wit, political skepticism, real-world anecdotes, and deathless loyalty to common sense. The Garage Logic crew call out the hollowing out of civic resilience, the moral bankruptcy of victim-centered politics, and the way public institutions have become addicted to emotional management rather than problem-solving. Whether the subject is ICE raids, government fraud, or the integrity of country music, the mood is both critical and reflective—laced with humor, irreverence, and no patience for institutional double-speak.

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For those who missed the episode:
This summary gives you a full serving of GL’s “gumption county” worldview: skepticism toward modern trends of fragility, a plea for common sense, nostalgia for lost civic trust, and a warning that progressive ideology rooted in perpetual victimhood cannot deliver genuine justice or good government. As always, Garage Logic brings news from the “mayor’s office,” read through a cloud of cigar smoke, with an unapologetically cranky Minnesota sensibility.

Transcript

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Hail the Flashlight King.

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Hail you. And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers Manning Technology Cor. Kenny Olson from the Crabby Coffee Shop, John Height in the newsroom. And of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susher. I have memories of that 17 inches of snow. That was Super Bowl. No, the Super bowl was January 14, 1982. Cincinnati and San Francisco in the Silver Dome.

[B]

Is that when you got a call?

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Yeah. And? Well, why would I still have been there on the 20th? That doesn't make sense. I must have been home for these snowfalls. The super bowl was as early as January 14th.

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But anyway, we have January 14th.

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Yeah, that's right.

[E]

That's.

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Well, they didn't what is this one? February, 18 rounds of playoffs.

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That's true.

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And back then, did they. They did not have the break that they do now, correct?

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The two week.

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Yeah, I don't think so.

[E]

Yeah.

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Who won that one? Frisco.

[B]

Frisco. Cincinnati's never won one.

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I had a problem with my computer in that. Like the Vikings.

[E]

John, is that when it slipped?

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It did, man.

[E]

It slipped about 40 FE.

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Yeah.

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Airborne for 40ft.

[B]

How big of a device would that. Is that roughly.

[E]

Spare tire.

[A]

Back then. Back then. Those prehistoric computers are about the size of a suitcase.

[F]

When you had to tell management that your computer was down inoperable. What? How did you do that? What did you say?

[A]

If I recall, I just didn't bring it back. Oh.

[E]

And what he meant by down was it was down four stories right next.

[B]

To the guy selling beer.

[A]

That was an accident. Yeah.

[F]

This is Post Mojo Wire, right?

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Yes. Yes.

[F]

I once accidentally punched a laptop screen and I went to it or whoever gave it to me and said it fell off the table.

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That's right.

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And they. They didn't believe it at all.

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You would think g lers would know this by now. We don't do birthdays. No, we don't.

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No.

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Brittany. Britney Johnson. Hi, guys. My boyfriend and future husband. We don't do this, do we?

[F]

Where's Britney from? I know.

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Let her plead her case.

[F]

Just the Britney I know. Couldn't be.

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I don't know if you know her down the hall. Absolutely loves your show. He listens and I get to listen every weekend. As for our kids, sports and activities. Blended family with six kids. I've never seen him smile, relate and have the best time connecting to you all and all of your viewpoints regarding the state of Minnesota. I'm desperately pleading, if you can Wish your number one fan a happy birthday on January 28, he will be 38. His name is Craig Messer. She provides his phone number. Hey, lady. It's bad enough I mentioned we're not gonna call the guy. We're not gonna.

[F]

This is not the Britney I know. But it's the 20th. That's eight days from now or a week ahead. That's a week from tomorrow.

[E]

Craig better be listening every day.

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Today's the 20th.

[F]

Oh, you said 28th.

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28Th. No, January 20th. Today.

[F]

Okay, well, maybe if you could enunciate.

[E]

But what did she say about. He doesn't smile?

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No, he gets a smile from us.

[F]

He can't write eights and he can't.

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January 20th. Craig Messers. Happy birthday. You're 38 years old. You got Brittany to thank for that. We're not calling you right?

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I'm not.

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We're not doing that.

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Birthday.

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Yeah. And in about 10 minutes, you're going to be looking at 60. So enjoy life today, right now.

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Okay. That's a little positive upbringing.

[F]

60 and going, what the hell just happened?

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One of the sites I've really grown to like reading is the Minneapolis Times. We're blessed. We have Alpha, we have American Experiment, we have Minneapolis Times, we have Sahan Journal. And they're doing the Lord's work on reporting things that just aren't going to get reported otherwise. And there was a piece. No, it was yesterday, the 19th. A piece written by Callie Proctor. And it was called the Quiet Indoctrination of Fragility. And boy, it was a great piece. And she writes earlier this month. I won't read the whole thing, but I'll read it till we get to the point. How's that?

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Yep.

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Earlier this month, the Minneapolis woman, Renee Good, was fatally shot during an incident involving Immigration and Customs Enforcement. In the hours that followed, the language escalated quickly. Murder, terrorism, propagation. Each word carrying its own political weight. People began arguing not only about. I'm sorry, I'm going to interrupt myself. Chris, I need that thing you printed for me to go get. Each word carrying its own political weight, people began arguing not only about what happened, but about what it meant. Regardless of where one lands politically or whether one views the shooting as criminal, tragic, reprehensible, or the grim outcome of years of escalating rhetoric is not a joke justification for suspending the education of tens of thousands of children. Yet that is precisely what followed. Minneapolis Public Schools closed for two days in the immediate aftermath. Since then, Minneapolis and several surrounding districts, including St. Paul, Ridgefield, Robbinsdale, Fridley, Bloomington and others, have made in person attendance optional, offering temporary elearning through mid Feb for students who feel unsafe attending schools, the rationale is framed around safety, care and emotional well being. In my place of work, it was all anyone talked about. Emergency meetings, collective processing, public displays of outrage and grief. There was an unspoken assumption that there was a correct emotional response and that we would perform it together. I understand grief. I understand. I respect fear. But what I witnessed was not discernment. I choose to send my kid to a private Catholic school. I pay for it. I do so knowing it operates outside the public system. Different curriculum, different funding, different values. I believe, perhaps naively, that this would also mean a different approach to moments of cultural turbulence. And yet his school also closed. What Unsettled. I'm getting to the point. What unsettled me. I'm getting to her point. What unsettled me was not simply the closure itself, but what it revealed, that even institutions ostensibly grounded in stability now reflexively mirror the emotional volatility of the culture. Instead of buffering children from it, schools emphasize that in person, learning remains available while attendance has been made optional. But we all know that opt affect all families equally. This is not theoretical. It is exactly what Covid revealed, and it is exactly what is happening again. The message being taught is not this is sad. The message is not this is serious. The message is, you can't handle this. It's a wonderful point. And she's absolutely correct.

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That part of the mystery that helps me understand why I hate the phrase. Out of an abundance of caution, sure, so much. I've never been able to nail it down. It's always driven me crazy. That says it right there.

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And she follows. You cannot handle this with stay home, suspend ordinary life, step away from routine. The implicit lesson is that exposure to difficulty, even indirectly, is intolerable and that functioning in the presence of tragedy is somehow inhumane. This message is everywhere. Young people are increasingly taught to relate to the world not as something to be engaged with, endured, navigated, but as something overwhelming that must be managed from a distance. Discomfort is treated as danger. Difficulty is reframed as trauma. Responsibility is displaced. Outward resilience is no longer modeled. It is treated with suspicion. I think this lady's been living, listening to us over the years.

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I would hope so.

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She's right. This is appalling. Tens of thousands of kids told to stay home, she said, because you can't handle it. That's what they're being taught.

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When you look back at your own behavior, the way I've looked back on mine during and a little bit after the first two years after Covid. Are you surprised at what you did? I am shocked at what I did now that it's five years, past six years.

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What do you mean, Ken?

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Oh, I. Full on absolute panic. Full on panic.

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But I think, Kenny, it was so much the reason for that, I'm throwing myself into that as well. It's because of the unknown, Right? We had no idea because we were dealing with something we had never dealt with before.

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Guys, at the same time that we were panicking were still going to their blue collar mechanics jobs, construction site jobs, truck drive. They were still doing their jobs. They weren't. They didn't tuck their tail and run the way I did.

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Well, we Were. We did the show.

[B]

Yeah, but you were at home.

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Well, but. But Kenny's always been at home.

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That was when I was sent home.

[B]

Yeah. Rook and I were the only ones that came, Rook. We were the ones that showed up.

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I mean, talk about loyalty, you know.

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Because we had no choice.

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Right. I'm gonna answer Kenny's question. I did not panic. And I do recall that I handled much of it begrudgingly. I was angry that I was put into this situation where someone walking towards me crossed the street to walk on the other side.

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Yeah.

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I just thought it was pathetic. Pathetic. Yeah. I didn't do that. I didn't. If I passed somebody in the sidewalk, I wasn't worried about it.

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You were.

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Wear a mask.

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You were one of the first people to say, we've never behaved this way.

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This country never behaved that way. Yeah.

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And it hasn't changed, obviously.

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It's. It. No, it hasn't. And this. This Cali. What's her name? Who wrote this for the Times? Callie Proctor. She's. She's. She's in on the secret now. I mean, this. This is what we do.

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It's. It's. Fill in the blank fear. Take Covid out of it and put rioting or ICE or.

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You know, it's worse than that, because then we pass that off as being virtuous.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. It's. It's a really interesting piece.

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I'm pleased to say that kids I'm familiar with did not have school canceled. They were not offered remote learning. So not. Not for the death of Renee.

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Good.

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No.

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I have a question.

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Yeah.

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That's gonna cause some issues, I'm sure. I thought originally the reason the schools were closing was because immigrant students weren't showing up to school, and they wanted to give everyone a chance at learning. And obviously, they didn't want to single out, hey, if you're at home, immigrants, go ahead and learn remotely.

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This is interesting, because in my twisted mind, it all started when that chase ended up in front of Roosevelt.

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Right.

[F]

And in my brain, that's what started it. But I think you might be right, John.

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I think that's definitely a part of it. Yes.

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A couple of factors, then.

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So her point would work with or without ICE here.

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Yeah. And that was my next question. Could you still count that as part.

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Of what her point is? Yes, her point is extremely valid. And you're right. As I think back, I think a lot of it had to do with, we're not gonna put kids at risk by having them leave their house because they might get trapped by ice, but also a lot of it was caused by the death of Renee Goode. And if you're traumatized, we're going to offer you remote learning. The point she's making is kids are being taught that when cultural upheaval happens, they can't handle it. They must be treated differently than we were treated years ago.

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Yeah, well, but then also, they brought those kids down to the state capitol that were just there to wreak havoc and not protest and just make a mess of things. They weren't learning anything.

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Well, a lot of that hypocrisy really was made evident during the. During COVID One of the most glaring examples was the big celebratory funeral for George Floyd. Everyone else in the world's being told, don't go out in public. Don't do this, don't do that. And everybody under the sun who was a political type showed up at the funeral.

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You know, we could even make it. It was sooner than that. Remember the. The mostly peaceful protest? Yeah, that was all fine. Now we can do that. You can that. That's okay.

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But I'm thinking back on that. The Stanley cup was played before empty seats. You know, the sports went in the. Everything.

[B]

Remember the twins sold those caricatures.

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Yes.

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So you could buy a picture of yourself and put it in the.

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Now, here's an interesting question. Something could come along that would very well motivate the likes of Walls and his minions to do this again. Tell you to stay home, whatever that might be. Will the country.

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No, no, there's no chance we're gonna.

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Fall for it again. No, half the country won't fall for it, that's for sure. Half the mysterious half of the country will fall for it.

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It was so destructive that I don't even think the half that you're referring to. I don't even think the vast majority of those people would do it again because of how destructive it was.

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Yeah, I think you're wrong. This is a hill I'm willing to die on, and I'll tell you why. Well, because we're going downhill here. I noticed something in the news. The community plans a strike and an economic blackout to protest ICE operations in Minnesota. I get the protesting part, but check this out. You mean to tell me faith leaders, unions, and community groups are planning a strike and economic blackout this Friday in response to the Trump administration's Operation Metro surge? Okay, I get that.

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Did we add that to the list, by the way?

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The movement. Yes, we did. The movement, which started small, is gaining momentum as more organizations, unions and businesses join. Well, this ICE presence is killing business and now you want to set aside a day completely to not have any business. I if they have to go to work, they are not going to shop. If they have to send kids to school, then they will find another way to show up in the community, said Chelsea Globitz Gabbieu, president of the Minneapolis Regional Labor Federation, AFL cio.

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And when all of this is done and a couple of days have passed, what will, what will the result be.

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Of their little protest run out a month before the money ends?

[F]

That's all I can see. Maybe I'm too blind, I don't know.

[B]

Because the administration sitting around going, whoa.

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Did you guys see what I'm I'm rooting for those places to say, go bleep yourself. We're open, right?

[F]

I can't imagine closing my doors for that.

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No.

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Unless the protest is on my front step, the shingle is out.

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I want to put a period on that Minneapolis Times piece by Kelly Proctor. Just the last two sentences are really, really? Then let's move on. But she says children do not need to be shielded from every hard thing. They need adults who believe they are capable of being in the world even when the world is difficult. When institutions repeatedly tell children that they cannot handle reality, we should not be surprised when they grow into adults who believe it. This is not empathy. It is abdication.

[A]

Amen, sister. I know some kids who will soon be facing the loss of their longtime dog. Well, he's falling down the steps and he can't see. He's a mess. And. And they'll have to handle it. It's going to be really bad, though, because this dog is really.

[B]

What's the book? The Art of Racing in the Rain.

[A]

They'll handle it. They'll handle it.

[F]

Where the red dog? Matthew, did you read it when you were in third grade? Where the red fern.

[E]

Gross.

[F]

That was one. My heart's still broken.

[E]

I never understood why the fern was going to be red, though.

[A]

Dog is about 15.

[B]

The little guy.

[E]

15 is house money.

[A]

It's but he very active until just very recently.

[B]

He had to do a book. The little guy had to do a book report on that last year. Boy, that was a. That was a tough one.

[E]

Yeah, that's one where you're reading that by yourself because you don't want him to see a bone.

[A]

I'm just gonna tell him, get over it. Don't worry about it. Come on.

[B]

What's coming up on the ride?

[A]

All dogs are the Same. What's good? You're listening to the show today?

[B]

No, you should say it smells like updog in here.

[A]

Yeah.

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What's up?

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Another thing that Jordi alerted me to. I've never heard of this organization, but I certainly will be paying attention to it. There's a group called First Things. They produce a journal. It's aimed at advancing a religiously informed public philosophy for the ordering of society, focusing on theology, liturgy, history of religion, church history, culture, education, society, politics, literature, book reviews, and poetry. That's too much inter religious and interdenominational and ecumenical, especially Christian and Jewish. It articulates Christian ecumenism. Ecumenism, ecumenism, Christian Jewish dialogue, erudite social and political conversation in a critique of contemporary society. Sounds like a pretty good group of thinkers.

[F]

We'll see. We'll see you tomorrow, everybody.

[A]

Good night.

[E]

Take care.

[A]

So, yes, in January 14th in the journal First Things is a piece dot.

[F]

Com, by the way, firstthings.com okay, is.

[A]

A piece written by a guy named Daniel Strand. And it turns out he's from here. He's now a professor. Gabe. What is he a professor of? Ethics at the Air Force War Academy. He younger guy, and he wrote a piece called the Banality of Minnesota Fraud. And it's just again, just like Callie Proctor's piece was right up our alley. So is this. And we're underway. We have. The machinery is rolling. I would want him on the air to discuss this. He said, having lived here, he doesn't hear it. Trust is vital to the functioning of a society, and we feel its absence palpably in cities and regions that lack it. When I grew up in the suburbs of Minneapolis, we rarely locked our front door. The thought that someone would randomly come into our house to steal or hurt us was not on the menu of possibilities. Likewise, Minnesotans have historically had high trust in government because it was effective and transparent. The real damage of fraud is that it corrodes the ability of government to do what it should. Progressives, who have an expansive view of government's role in our lives stand to lose the most from declining trust in government. Yet they also appear to be the least concerned. Well, I won't read you this whole piece, but I want to read you the paragraph that motivates me to see if we can't get this fellow to join us and discuss what he thinks is. Let's see, where's the piece on. Where's the paragraph I want? Here it is. The dirty little secret is that for all their talk of the public good, Progressives do not have a conception of the common good because their conception of justice is rooted in a hierarchy of victimhood. When one pulls back the rhetorical layers of leftist ideologues, one finds a constellation of ideas that are wholly anathema to public good, of cities, states or nations. If politics is about cultivating and maintaining those public goods that are essential for the thriving of a political community, the political policies of Minnesota Democrats have not only undermined that basic principle, identity politics focuses only on difference, what sets us apart and not when it binds us together. Walls and Democratic leaders in the state refuse to take any responsibility for the massive throw fraud that is being uncovered. Instead, they accused Trump and the US Attorneys of some malicious plot to attack Minnesota, portraying themselves as victims. Even as the evidence mounts against Minnesota Democratic leaders, they seem intent on making their banality clear for all to see. I couldn't. I envy him. That paragraph. It's fantastic.

[F]

Yeah. And that last line, what's happening?

[A]

It's been happening, but I'm going to show you. I want to tell you a little story about the power. Where's that piece you gave me that you printed for me?

[E]

Right there.

[F]

That last line. Joe, they seem.

[A]

Yep.

[F]

They seem intent in making their banality clear. For to me, that means they're just doubling down on the dumb.

[A]

No, it isn't, Reeves. That isn't it. Here it is.

[E]

That's it right there.

[A]

No, that isn't it.

[F]

Are we okay?

[A]

Reeves? Find it? I, I, I don't know where it is.

[E]

What helps is if you randomly keep pushing the papers around so they go into the same pile again.

[F]

I love how when this happens, he can't focus on anything else.

[C]

Definitely.

[A]

Definitely.

[E]

Okay, Raymond, go to the top, don't go to the byline.

[F]

Wapner.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Five minutes. Stay.

[A]

Rusty, we, we've been. No, no, no, no. You're. We've been talking about. They're going to be okay. All right.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

I don't think it's blowing our own horn to say we've been ahead of the curve on this fraud. We've been talking about it, analyzing it, commenting on it.

[F]

Boy, have we.

[A]

Many, many, many of the five Eyewitness News guys have been on it. The Kiera Levin guys, the Channel nine guys. We know what's happening. It's been on our radar. I'll give you the power of social media. Today I was a guest on a morning show in West Palm Beach, Florida, and basically what they wanted was an update on. What's it like up there? What's happening in Minnesota because it's leaking now everywhere into the national consciousness about you got fraud, you got ice, you got all hell breaking loose in Minnesota. And at one point the guy, the host said to me, boy, that Nick Shirley really revealed everything, didn't he? Oh, boy. I said, hey, hey, hey. I said, check this out. I said, we've been talking about that for five years. He didn't reveal anything. And I mentioned Jay Coles by name. We got a guy at One of the TV stations 5 Eyewitness News who visited closed daycare centers with his camera. This kid didn't reveal anything. I told him, but that's the power of social media, that he could get the hits for it and it be. And then they tried to argue, well, that made it a national story. I said, it was already a national story. He just got. He just came in and did some film work. And the next thing you know, he's being highlighted as the guy who discovered fraud in Minnesota. I said, that's not the way it happened. It's been going on here for a long time.

[E]

Well, we're have to cut you short. We got to go to the War of the Roses, the coming here.

[A]

And they should said, can't thank you enough for the time.

[F]

Here's Elton John on the leader.

[E]

Did they have a natural serious curiosity about. Or was it to promote? Not to promote, but to mention Nick Shirley did this.

[A]

Oh, no, no. He came up in conversation. That wasn't the visit wasn't to promote him. No, it was fun. It was a fun. And they did say thank you. You're giving us a different perspective on.

[E]

Got it.

[A]

It probably, you know, at one point they said, you know, the president listens to us. He listens to this radio station. I said, really? He ought to be sitting in a rocking chair in front of the breakers trying to suck down a chocolate ice cream cone. I'm not sure they like that one. Yeah, they probably won't. Jesus.

[E]

Yeah, you might not be coming on Garage.

[F]

Was it one of our stations?

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Oh, great.

[B]

So your agenda then was to get as much email like you would on this show on a different radio station.

[A]

Let them handle.

[E]

Here comes the emails, guys.

[A]

Let them worry about it.

[F]

You can't control yourself.

[A]

I can.

[B]

Don't forget to answer.

[A]

No, that was a great conversation. It wasn't.

[F]

I've had a lot of people tell me that we should be thankful that even though Nick surely did the lazy thing and used everybody else's research except his own, that we should be thankful to him. For exposing it to such a wide audience. What do you think of that take?

[A]

I'm sure that that was my point. The power of social media is extraordinary and we saw it with our own eyes.

[F]

It's a more subtle way of putting it.

[A]

Yeah, I'll go with that.

[E]

Isn't that with any pub is good pub? I know he didn't solve it, you know, or bring it to the table.

[A]

But at least I got nothing against the kid. But to think that he came in here on a white horse and solved fraud or revealed it is preposterous. That's not the way it happened. And I want to talk about that for a moment, if I might. I find myself resenting the presence of ICE for two reasons. One, I like what ICE does. I've said this yesterday. I don't like how they're doing it. And two, whether they wanted to or not, not only is fraud off the back burner, it's out on the porch cooling off for sure. It's not even being looked at or talked about. It's a gift to the Walz administration that ICE happens to be here because ICE right now is a much bigger story than fraud. The fraud is ongoing. It's in every corner of the Walz administration. The guy who was getting it under control, Joe Thompson, he resigned because of the behavior of ice. He resented the fact that you're taking a case away from us. We should be prosecuting that case. It's going to disappear. There'll be no transparency. The BCA should have handled it and he had enough and he and six guys resigned. Now we. Fraud is. They're going to get away with it.

[E]

So instead of Wallace sitting in the corner with his tail between his legs, he's beating his chest saying, we got to get rid of ICE or we need to get in their face.

[A]

Yes. Wow. He's been handed this gift of having a couple of weeks now where he can strut his stuff and stick out his chest and go to war with Trump. Nothing's changed. It's still the worst administration in the history of the state, the worst governor in the history of the state, and the most fraud in the country. Nothing has changed, but it's going to be put on the back burner and nobody cares. Because of the hierarchy of victimhood right now, the taxpayers of Minnesota will never count as victims. They don't have a political identity. We're just the taxpayers. White, black, blue, red, yellow. But it's easy to dismiss us as just the taxpayers. We'll never achieve victim status. So Walls is never going to go to bat for the taxpayers of Minnesota. He'll go to bat for people who maintain a political identity. Somalis, for example. It's been killing him to have to face that. He can't. He doesn't know how. He's not willing to. His progressive ideology does not allow him to. Now, I ask you to print out a piece by Alpha had a piece on Robin Wansley. Let's see what our old friend.

[E]

Don't start that. No, we don't.

[B]

I'm diving in my coin.

[E]

What did Robin say?

[A]

Let's see.

[E]

Who are the blue people, though? You said the people that are red, white and blue.

[B]

The Smurf.

[E]

I don't know who any blue people.

[A]

Robin Wansley. She's a democratic socialist, city councilwoman, 2nd Ward, Minneapolis. She's accusing Mayor Fry and Police Chief Brian o'. Hara. I guess she was on CNN News Central. I'm unaware of that particular CNN show. She accused Fry and o' Hara of refusing to protect the residents of the city by calling for peaceful protests. Well, Robin wants peaceful protests. Following a second ICE related shooting last week. Fry and o' Hara called on protesters to either protest peacefully or go home. And then Robin says, I'm confused as to what bait is being taken. And I think what people on the ground hear when our mayor say those type of things or when our chief of police say, we need you to stand down. What people are hearing is stand down, don't take action. Wansley said, we're not going to take action either because of our local leaders have not taken any action to actually protect their residents. And we need you to stand down at a low ICE to do their jobs and do their jobs of shooting residents and expecting immunity to profile residents during traffic stops or on their way to take a bus to get to work. These are words I think she's putting in the mouths of Fry and o'. Hara. She's saying, you're just telling us to stand down and allow the shooting. She's calling it shooting.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Our residents are showing so much courage, and I'm glad that they're out in our communities because they're doing a lot more than elected officials like myself who were charged with delivering material changes in moments like this to truly get ICE out of Minnesota. Wansley said, okay, this is not. I think she's. I think she has put words in the mouths of Fry and o'. Hara. I think she's ridiculing Frye and o'. Hara. I think what she must want from Fry And o' Hara is their insistence that ICE leave Minnesota. Well, they did file a lawsuit to that end, but that's. That's not going anywhere.

[F]

But when she says she delivers material changes in moments like this to truly get ICE out of Minnesota, what happens, what translates in my head is that I am pro crime. I am pro illegal immigrants. I'm pro rape. I'm pro murder. I'm pro chaos. That's what my interpretation is.

[A]

It's become terribly evident to me that the ideology of our many Robin Wansleys in both cities is that they're entirely okay with there being no immigration enforcement. They're entirely okay with that. They. I think they would prefer that the United States not have a border. Remember, these are mysterians at heart who don't like the founding of the country. They hold capitalism in contempt. They hold the founding fathers in contempt. They were white guys. She doesn't like that. She doesn't like any part of it. She'll enjoy the benefits of living here. She's a hypocrite like all the rest of the progressive ideologues, but that's her public stance. I am in favor of illegal immigrants. That' sto me. I don't think she can deny that she's in favor of it. Many, many of her ilk are in favor of it. In the meantime, this state continues to just sink and sink and sink into the quicksand because there are no standards. No one's taking responsibility. No one's upholding rules. Frye and o' Hara come along and say, come on. People protest peacefully. That's not good enough for Wansley. Wansley wanted them to be more vitriolic and say, get the hell out of this state. Just like Frye initially did. But she apparently disappointed that he backed off that.

[B]

Case in point, what Kenny just said. Did you guys see this video over the weekend? A female protester tried to impede an ICE agent, and he pulled up and rolled down his window.

[A]

We're here to arrest a child sex.

[C]

Offender, and you guys are out here honking.

[E]

No, we're pressing.

[A]

That vehicle right there is honking and.

[C]

Impeding our investigations while we're trying to arrest a child sex offender.

[A]

That's who you guys are protecting inside. Was that in front of the Mung fellows house?

[B]

I don't know what house it was in front of.

[E]

That was a box deal they should have had.

[A]

Okay, but did you read the whole story? Apparently, living there were two offenders. Sexual offenders.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Now, why they were living with this guy? I have no idea.

[B]

Well, they were probably hiding.

[C]

I thought they were living there before them two years ago. No. Let me look. Let me look at the story.

[A]

I would take it. He's only 55, but he's considered an elder for God's sakes. I would think it's really sad. I know. I would think he's the owner of the house and I think he has a son who lives there. And maybe these two bad guys were friends of the sun. Here comes ice. Well, well. Sloppy work on ice's part. The old guy you dragged out of the house was not the sex offender.

[F]

Or sloppy work on reporters parts for not telling us this earlier.

[C]

The family has lived in the location for two years. Were not ICE's intended targets.

[A]

No, but the intended targets. John, see if you can track this down. Apparently we're thought to be living there.

[E]

Okay.

[F]

That's what's driving me me the craziest is when they make a mistake like this. Nobody tells us why. ICE is slow to tell us why. Reporters don't seem like they dig it up fast enough. For my preference, there should be a briefing. I would like to know why they went there, why the mistake was made and what we're going to do to change it. It's simple questions. It's not accusatory.

[E]

Not to mention, if you're going to call that guy out, can you put some sweatpants on, leave the blanket and we'll give you a pullover coat.

[A]

I'm sorry I didn't bring with me what I read. That indicated to me there were people in the house who were valid targets of ice. It just was this. You know what fellow wasn't.

[C]

The two offenders the definition of the worst of the worst were identified as Louis Mao, who is wanted for sexual assault of a minor, rape, kidnapping and domestic violence, and Kongman Vang. But it doesn't say. They both live there, so I'm not sure.

[A]

But for all I know, being Hmong, maybe they've been here for a long time and are citizens, which doesn't excuse their behavior. I'm just saying I wonder if they're citizens.

[E]

Well, if they're citizens, wouldn't that take ICE out of the thing and you'd have the sheriff.

[A]

Why aren't the cops arresting these guys?

[E]

Correct.

[B]

Great question.

[F]

In the wee wee hours of the early morning. I'm not looking for answers like that. I'm on the Internet looking for customroasting.net.

[E]

Oh, thank God you said that. You had me nervous there for a.

[F]

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Thank you, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. Federal officials are urging a judge to deny Minnesota's attempt to stop the immigration enforcement surge. Sorry, I forgot to look at that.

[A]

It's predictable. You gotta say it if it's in the news.

[C]

You know what, though? You know what, though? I got a lovely. I don't remember who sent it to me, but he sent me me something. Hippo. I saved it in my thing here where you can find a thousand synonyms for words. Yeah, it's a thesaurus on. On steroids, did you say?

[A]

Lovely.

[C]

I'm going to start using that. Yeah, lovely email. Anyway. The officials urging the judge to deny Minnesota so does attempt to stop that immigration enforcement that has more than 2,000 agents conducting ops in the state. Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison and the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul had filed the lawsuit against Homeland Security last week, accusing the feds of usurping the state's right to police itself and putting an undue burden on local officials. In response to the lawsuit, Department of Justice lawyers wrote Monday that the state's lawsuit is legally frivolous and claimed it's based on political motivations and not a legal basis. A federal judge declined to immediately rule on the case last week, but had told federal officials to submit their argument by yesterday, which they did and gave the state until Thursday to respond. A preliminary decision could be made after that time. The state is asking the judge to grant a preliminary injunction to stop ICE agents as well as Border Patrol from conducting any operations while the government wants any immediate action to not take effect until an appeal. Meanwhile, the federal government has filed an appeal of a judge's order that ICE agents can't detain peaceful protesters or use tear gas against them. This is the newest development in a lawsuit filed on behalf of six activists by the American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota, which alleged the federal government is violating protesters civil rights. The lawsuit lists top officials from the Department of Homeland Security, ICE and other agencies as defendants. Now to that story we're talking to before the last break I stated if you're not familiar with this story, what happened is ICE agents, we told you about it yesterday, took Chong Li Scott Tao, a 57 year old from his home in his boxer shorts and Crocs with a blanket across his shoulders. The door had been broken open by ICE agents. They put him in a car, drove him around, fingerprinted him an hour later, brought him back with no explanation, no apology and released him. Tao is a US Citizen with no known criminal record. ICE does say the US Citizen lived with two convicted sex offenders, a claim that the family is vehemently denying. The family says his son, daughter in law and grandson live there and neither they nor the owner are registered offenders. DHS provided no further details about the individuals, although court records showed a potential link to a man with the same first name as a registered offender who borrowed a car from a relative. But the families say they are different people, making this even more well convoluted. As it turns out. St. Paul Mayor Kali Herr is a family friend of Tao. She called the aggressive actions of federal immigration enforcement agents unjustifiable. Say she's livid about the situation. She said to somehow group those individuals with this family is completely irresponsible to justify their actions. There's nothing that they did in that home that is justifiable. This is an American citizen with no criminal record who was sleeping in his own house that they broke a door down and put guns to his daughter in law's head.

[A]

She strikes me as the kind of woman that you don't want to get mad.

[C]

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Thanks, Chris. In national and international news, the Sell America trade is in full swing today after President Trump and European leaders escalated tensions over Greenland. US Bond prices tumbled, sending yields spiking. The US Dollar index, which weighs the greenback against a basket of six foreign currencies, fell nearly 1%. The euro jumped 0.7% against the dollar. Krishna Guha is the head of global policy and central banking strategy at Evercore isi. He wrote in a note to Clark. This is Sell America again with a much broader global risk off. As of right now, the dow is down 827 points for the day. The NASDAQ down 495 and the S&P down about 130.

[A]

Greenland stuff.

[F]

I see footage of Greenland and I think, and I see all the snow. I think, oh, my God, I would never live there. The snow, the cold, the ice. It's got to be miserable. And then I look out the window, right? And I look at the forecast and it's 29 below.

[A]

On Thursday night, many, many, many g l ers emailed me and they perfectly understand the need to get Greenland.

[C]

Of course they do.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

What was the consensus?

[A]

If he wants it, it must be right to do.

[E]

Oh, boy.

[B]

And then we're going to take. No, I'm kidding.

[A]

And they're all wearing black tennis shoes and they're going to be going to a spaceship soon.

[E]

The heavens.

[A]

Gators. Yeah.

[C]

President Trump compressed a week's worth of diplomatic taunting into a single, overnight burst of social media activity. Overnight calling NATO Secretary General, announcing a Greenland summit, leaking private messages mocking Canada's sovereignty and attacking the United Kingdom over a key US Military base. The president began by saying that he had a very, very good telephone call with NATO chief Mark Rudy and agreed to convene talks at Davos in Greenland, a territory Trump is repeatedly suggesting, as we've been talking about, that the US should control. Social media onslaught came as the president escalated pressure on European governments, resisting his demand for Greenland, announcing 10% tariffs on eight European countries. The move has triggered frantic discussion between European leaders over how to contain the crisis that is rapidly moving beyond rhetoric. The president then posted what appeared to be a private text message from French President Emmanuel Macron. Questioning his plans for Greenland and offering to host talks in Paris. A French official confirmed the message was authentic. The President followed by sharing an AI produced image of him presenting a doctored map of the Western Hemisphere hemisphere showing Canada, Greenland and Venezuela, all under a US Flag to European leaders gathered in the Oval Office. Another image showed him planting a US Flag on Greenland while flanked by Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio closed the barrage by attacking Britain over the quote and this is in caps great stupidity of its decision to cede sovereignty of the Chagos Island Islands to Mauritius, lashing out at plans to transfer Diego Garcia, home of the US Military base. This reportedly blindsided London because Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, had welcomed the deal, calling it a critical asset for regional and global security. All of this comes ahead of the President's arrival at the World Economic Forum in Davos, where he will meet with other world leaders. There's obviously lots of things for leaders to talk about with the President's recent comments. Back to the private message from Macron, by the way he posted. Trump posted the message just an hour after he lashed out at Macron for declining his invitation to join the Trump administration's Board of Peace. The President said, that's all right. I'll just put a 200% tariff on French wines and champagne.

[A]

Said he'll solve it until join. You know, the prospect of, of Trump in Davos is delightful because these, all the rest of these phonies, this just cocktail hour, he's going to bluster through there and tell him what this is what I'm going to do. They're not used to that. That part's going to be fun.

[F]

I hope he tells him what he thinks about their wives too.

[C]

He will.

[E]

You got a.

[A]

Last time I saw a face like that, it had a hook in it.

[E]

You must have been something before electricity, huh?

[F]

I have to admit, John, you kind of lost me right at the outset when you said something about AI And I started thinking is there a way to impose or put myself via AI next to Farah Fawcett in that poster that we all had in our bedrooms. Yeah, maybe a TLR could do that for me.

[E]

Put.

[F]

Put me. Maybe she's sitting in my lap. I don't know.

[B]

Follow up question that.

[A]

Get creative.

[B]

Which photo would you select to be added to that poster?

[F]

Oh, don't you remember the one in the red swimsuit.

[B]

What photo of you would.

[F]

You're bending over about 100 pounds ago. Whatever that one is.

[B]

I, I just imagine the football one rookie just Mentioned with the sig hanging from the.

[F]

Oh where I look like what's his name from Elo.

[A]

Bigfoot.

[B]

Yes, Bigfoot.

[C]

More than 100 vehicles smashed into each other or slid off an interstate in Michigan yesterday as snow fueled by the Great Lakes blanketed the state. The massive pile up prompted the Michigan State Police to close both directions of Interstate 196 Monday morning just southwest of Grand Rapids, while officials worked to try and remove all the vehicles, including more than 30 semi trailer trucks.

[E]

Did anybody die, John? I'm sorry to interrupt.

[C]

They did not. There were numerous.

[E]

So then I would like to have the, the camera set on there where it's just.

[A]

Well what. It does make one wonder about the semis. Does it?

[E]

Well, the same thing happened last week in Pennsylvania. They had a 60 car pile up.

[A]

Compared to years and years ago. I'm uneasy on the freeway. If I'm traveling to Chicago, for example, example. Truck drivers are different than they used to be.

[F]

Boy, I'll say if I get pulled over for speeding past the trucker, that trooper or Leo's got an argument on his hands.

[A]

Because I don't think in the same thing today.

[F]

I blast by them. I get up close and I put my foot down and I get by them. I don't trust.

[A]

I was thinking the same thing today. I'm prepared to say, officer, I'm not going to be anywhere near one of those trucks.

[B]

And as a guy that's made, made a drive or two this time of the year around the Great Lakes. Yeah, that's the thing you see in the ditch all the time. Or the semi driver.

[A]

What is the problem? Are we not training truck drivers? Is there any shortage of truck drivers?

[F]

The footwear, Joe.

[A]

Sandals.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Are we allowing, I don't know, clientele that aren't seasoned? It's a tough way to make a living, but the pay is decent.

[E]

Are we to supposed sidestepping around it enough here?

[B]

We're basically handing out class A's like they're Halloween candy.

[F]

Joe, that's sitting on some hearsay stories that are so, so good.

[B]

Call either one of my brothers. They'll give you the full operators that.

[E]

Just might not know what they're doing yet.

[F]

Yeah, or on Twitter, Josh or Vic. They both have. They're both seasoned truck drivers and they have millions of stories.

[C]

Netflix.

[A]

Go ahead, John.

[C]

Netflix announcing this morning it had modified its December offer to acquire major parts of Warner Brothers Discovery. A rejoinder to Paramount and its chief executive David Ellison, who's also in hot pursuit of Warner Brothers in December you'll remember Warner Brothers Discovery agreed to sell its streaming and studio business to Netflix in an $83 billion cash and stock deal.

[B]

Holy crap.

[C]

Well, this morning, Netflix said it would pay that sum exclusively in cash, simplifying the deal for investors who will no longer have to account for Netflix's fluctuating stock price.

[E]

Here to break it down is Joe Sushire.

[C]

David Zaslav, the chief executive of Warner Brothers, said in a statement, today's revised merger agreement brings us even closer to combining two of the greatest storytelling companies in the world.

[F]

No, go ahead, keep going. So I can keep saying no.

[C]

No Move puts pressure on Paramount to further revise its own bid after Warner Brothers Discovery rejected its latest offer, saying it viewed the deal as more risky than Netflix's. While Paramount has modified the terms of its bid, it has not increased its offer in the week since Warner Brothers Discovery chose Netflix.

[F]

How close are we from just one company owning all entertainment outlets? All of them?

[A]

Very close, I would think. Yeah.

[B]

Basically what that means then is Netflix's subscription rate's gonna double in your monthly.

[F]

Bill and the product is garbage. It's propaganda. Whatever they want you to see.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

So I knew really need to call Comcast and say, cut my cable bill in by two thirds. Yeah, I got Netflix, I got Peacock, I got all that other other.

[B]

How do you watch Dancing with the Stars?

[E]

Abc.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This is a weird story and I don't know. A beloved.

[A]

You weren't supposed to talk to him or look at him.

[E]

It was, it was a general in inquiry.

[A]

He. No, I don't want that. No, stare at your computer.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

A beloved Florida pastry chef was tragically killed. Killed after getting caught in a bread mixing machine at a grocery store where he worked. 71 year old Morta Hay Grunberger was found dead at the South Florida kosher market in North Miami beach early Friday morning after the freak accident with an industrial dough mixer. According to police. Authorities think the longtime employee got lodged in the machine. They do not suspect foul play. Police said at this time there are no signs of foul play. We think the incident was accidental. The kosher grocer shut its doors Friday in the wake of the fatal incident. Police say they are not quite sure what led to the deadly accident, but they are still looking into it. Grunberger had identified himself as the head pastry chef on his Facebook page. His grief stricken wife, Ina Gostman Moore, shared her devastation on social media Friday, saying, today, my beloved husband Mickey, my closest person in my life, my best friend and father of My two beautiful sons tragically passed away. Oh, she among the people who are investigating the deadly incident.

[F]

This has David lynch written all over it.

[A]

Does this taste like rye?

[E]

Tastes bitter. You know, I've seen some guys at Cecil's missing, you know, maybe two or three digits, but they've never fallen into.

[F]

The john isn't this could be the beginning of a David lynch movie easily.

[A]

It's like the guy who drowned in the Guinness factory. It took him a long time because he got out twice to take a league, you know.

[C]

And one more weird one. One more weird story to wrap it up, shall we? On a shop and I didn't. Kenny, you're. You're a firearms guy, so you help me out with this one, okay? A shoplifting incident in Stewart, Florida escalated into a potentially dangerous situation when Martin county deputies discovered a suspect trying to ignite a shotgun slug in a Panera bathroom last week. It gets weirder. Martin County Sheriff John Boudin shacks deputies initially believed they were arresting a shoplifting suspect. But everything escalated quickly. The sheriff said the incident began when staff at a Publix in Stuart caught Hugh Okoy shoplifting. The sheriff said he was aggressive toward them, meaning he was confrontational. He didn't fight, but he was confrontational. Okoy then left the store, walked to a nearby Panera and entered the bathroom screaming at people along the way. Deputies found a coy in the bathroom shortly after. Initially they thought he was smoking drugs, but they soon realized that what he was doing was he had stuck a 12 gauge shotgun slug in his mouth. He was using a lighter to try to make the slug fire. Does that make sense? So he was trying to commit suicide. Right.

[F]

Well, he's an idiot. I mean, here's. Look at. I just happened to have.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

How long does it take to happen?

[F]

One look at here. I've got a shotgun shell, but look at it's crimped on the ends because it's full of BB's. The slug, you would actually see the top of a lead slug sticking out. The powder look is down here right by the primer. So he's holding a lighter up, like.

[A]

Holding the lighter out. Damn it. And there's no way in hell.

[F]

Hell that's going to do anything.

[D]

They're never going to find me in here.

[C]

The sheriff said he was using a lighter to try to make the slug fire. And he said to their surprise, deputies realized that what the suspect was doing was trying to set it off. And the sheriff said that rarely happens. Sometimes you see it especially on TV Shows when a car catches on fire and slugs start going off. The deputies intervened before any harm occurred, taking a coy into custody and confiscating two shotgun slugs.

[F]

I've been told by firefighters that to not fear your ammunition going off. If there's a house fire, it'll just simply spit out. It won't have any. Any power.

[A]

Just go kapoor.

[F]

It'll just go poof.

[C]

Got it.

[B]

Here I thought John, you're gonna say he saw it on looney tunes.

[F]

I have no way of coyote. I don't know if that is true. Let me preface our.

[C]

You know.

[D]

Right.

[F]

So no. No emails, please. No hate emails.

[A]

Why don't we.

[E]

Thank you more so than normal, Kenny. Right?

[D]

More so than normal.

[F]

Right, right.

[A]

And just take a brief time out. Okay. Hey, folks, it's Patrick Ricey, and fruitcake is back on the menu. Baby, let me ask you something. Would you be happy if the only dessert you got this holiday season was fruitcake? Well, no. Neither would I. That's what it's like. When you've got one insurance agen just one company, you don't have any options. That's why I work with the canopy group. They're an insurance agency that's unique because they offer 16 carefully selected companies for your home and auto insurance. 16? And behind the scenes, they've got 50 licensed elves. Okay, they're agents, but this time of year, let's call them elves, making sure you always have the best coverage at the best price. So this holiday season, don't settle for fruitcake. Get options. Visit the canopy group and see what they can do for you. The canopy group.com. Here's a man who spends hours in hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life. Well, stop it, Joe Sushi. Oh, my God. I want to set you up.

[F]

Didn't you notice how you kissed the post, my friend?

[C]

Oh, I didn't even know.

[F]

You couldn't have gotten it any closer.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

He stumbled over that by accident.

[A]

You're right.

[F]

He didn't even.

[A]

I want to set it up. Set her up.

[E]

Okay.

[F]

You'll never be able to do that again.

[A]

Jeff Dayton has a great review of the song you just heard. When it's cold in Texas. There's something deeply reassuring about a country song that knows exactly what it is and refuses to dress itself up for trends it doesn't believe in. Jeff Dayton's latest single, when it's cold in Texas, arrives with that kind of quiet confidence, sounding like a seasoned storyteller stepping back into the firelight. Where he belongs. From the opening bars, the track leans into motion and melody rather than spectacle. The rhythm glides with an easy swing built for dance floors that still value shared steps and unspoken understanding. Dayton's voice carries the weight of experience without ever feeling heavy. Instead, it feels lived in, relaxed and certain. This is a song sung by someone who has watched seasons change and learned which details matter. Lyrically, the song thrives on clarity. Dayton lets simple imagery do the work, delivering a narrative that feels romantic without sentimentality and grounded without losing its charm. It's the kind of writing that trusts that a well placed line can say more than a dozen clever turns of phrase. This is cold. When it's cold in Texas. When it's cold in Texas it cuts.

[F]

Right through your clothes.

[A]

I like this.

[F]

Crowd together and lovers hold each other.

[A]

Close there's frost on the windows the blankets aren't enough when it's cold in.

[F]

Texas that's when I miss your love oh, he's heartbroken. The wind blows through the floorboards there's no warmth in the sun I shiver with regret for all the foolish things I've done There's no words I can think of to ever bring you home when it's cold in Texas sure makes a man feel alone.

[A]

I wish that.

[F]

We were somewhere warm Laughing in the.

[A]

The sun.

[F]

Making memories like we used.

[A]

To do yeah, there's snow on the.

[F]

Hilltops and I along the coast when it's cold in Texas that's when I need you most.

[A]

He do that for us here?

[B]

I don't remember if he did or not.

[F]

It was either on GL or on Crabby. I remember asking him. Or was it live? I don't know.

[E]

I love when they bring the strings in, though.

[A]

John?

[C]

Yeah?

[A]

What do you think?

[F]

Don't call a fiddle the strings, Matthew.

[C]

I like it a lot. And thank you for saying that to rookie Kenny, because that drove me nuts, too. And if you're gonna have a song with Texas in the title, you gotta.

[A]

Have a fiddle solo. Yeah, but I've heard I've got three or four country stages on my preset list. And Outlaw country and others.

[B]

You like Luke Bryan?

[A]

Is that the deal? Not really. What? What?

[F]

Turn your mic off, Chris.

[A]

What? I wonder what determines whether this might make it or or not make it. It's just if it gets airplay, I guess. Yeah.

[F]

Depends on whose ass he kisses. Little plug in the business promotion. You know what I liked about it? I think I could. I think I could play that on bass.

[A]

The pretty simple bass line, but it Worked.

[F]

Yeah, I think I could do it.

[A]

There was a steel guitar, right?

[F]

Yep.

[C]

It's all kinds.

[E]

What he needs to do is hand him the CD and say, this is my new cd. It's as cold as my exit. And then say, inside, there's Mr. Franklin from the bank.

[B]

If you could.

[A]

Well, here's another important paragraph in the review. What makes When It's Cold in Texas especially compelling is how it reflects a broader moment within country music. As audiences increasingly gravitate back towards songs with spine, heart, and narrative integrity, Dayton sounds perfectly positioned. His long journey through studio stages and collaboration has clearly sharpened his instincts rather than dulled them. This single opens its arms, taps its boot heel on the floor, and invites you in. In doing so, Jeff Dayton reminds us why country music endures. Because it's honest and because sometimes the coldest places make room for the warmest songs.

[E]

So that's not a direct shot, but that's kind of a shot at current. Current country music.

[A]

It's a shot.

[C]

It's a direct.

[B]

But I think it's also.

[A]

Maybe he'll have the last laugh.

[B]

It's a shot at that, but it's also. Don't you take it as the. The song that we played a couple of weeks ago, the number one song in country was an AI Generated.

[F]

That's why we had Jeff on Crabby.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

And I don't think, Chris, that AI Music and what's currently on country radio has much difference in it.

[B]

That's a good point.

[E]

How would you describe.

[F]

Exactly, John?

[E]

How would you guys describe a. A current country music song if that guy's going back to Dayton's heartbroken and so forth?

[F]

Well, it all depends on the art. I mean, if you're talking Chris Stapleton, I'm all in.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

Anything he does because, you know, it comes from Chris Stapleton.

[C]

There's a whole group of alternative country artists who do actual real country, which, to me, makes it weird that they're called alternative country.

[A]

Right. There's.

[C]

There's, you know, 10 of them I could name off top my head had. They don't have country hits because they're not in country race.

[A]

Where's Morgan Wallen? Oh, boy. I mean, he's the antithesis.

[B]

He's probably in jail, right?

[C]

Jeff Dayton, he's the antithesis. That's. That's pretty correct.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

And knowing Jeff, the way we do stadiums, Jeff would not appreciate the comparison, I don't think.

[A]

Well, I'm not comparing him, but he's.

[C]

Far too nice to ever say anything.

[F]

Jeff would never say.

[C]

Jeff would never say.

[A]

That's my.

[C]

Any other artist.

[F]

That's your job.

[E]

You don't want to eliminate any future gigs.

[F]

Jeff.

[C]

Exactly.

[F]

Jeff does a podcast and he released one 11 hours ago with Marsha Ramirez, who has played with Rodney Crowell, Pam Tillis, Christopher Cross, Patty Loveless. She's a singer songwriter from Nashville. His podcasts are really fun. He talks to a lot of musicians that have been on the road for a long time time. Very informative and very fun.

[B]

Joe, when you were a guest on that podcast. That was a while ago, right?

[A]

A couple months ago, maybe during the state fair.

[B]

During the state fair, when you were a guest on that show, did you rip the president like you did when you were the guest on the.

[A]

No. Didn't.

[F]

You know what he did?

[A]

Didn't come up.

[F]

You know what he did? I saw a sign of Joe we've never seen before, ever. He talked about us four in kind of almost an appreciative tone. Oh, he didn't rip us. Except you, Matt. I don't know.

[A]

Painting me in the wrong light. I don't rip anybody.

[C]

Joe, why do you not like us.

[A]

Except the guy who should be sitting in a rocking chair in the front porch?

[F]

You have no control at all.

[A]

None. It's my job.

[F]

I was really hoping you would bring this up yesterday. You forwarded all of us, I think a Wall Street. No, not Wall Street. Where was that article Wall Street Journal about John Mellencamp?

[A]

Told you that yesterday.

[F]

Not on the.

[A]

You didn't. We didn't.

[F]

No. And I thought it was really interesting and we never got around to talking about it yesterday. What was the gist of that article?

[A]

I wasn't able to open it up. Mellencamp is from Indiana. He gave Indiana University a couple of years ago a million five for training facilities. And the school said, can we do anything for you? And he said, I want to be able to smoke when I go to a game. So he's got a little wood smoking ship somewhere in Indiana Stadium and he's in there alone. He smokes. He doesn't want to talk to anybody. He just wants to watch the game. That's what he got for the million five.

[F]

He wants to be left alone, be.

[A]

Left alone with his cigarettes and he just wants to be in his smoke shack. That alone made me root free Indiana. And they pulled it out.

[F]

He might be the last smoker in America.

[A]

Yeah, he and he. According to John, he's not going to give it up either.

[C]

Says he never will and he's had what, two heart attacks?

[A]

I mean, he's crazy. He's just killing himself.

[F]

I saw an interview with him last week when he. He really reminded me of Lee Elia. When Lee ripped the concert.

[A]

Are you sure we didn't do this on the area?

[F]

No, this was before the show and. And John just ripped into his fans for having a good time at concerts.

[C]

He's. He's been known to stop in the middle of songs, you know, and say.

[A]

If he comes here on this, he's taking a. He's going out on a big tour of all his hits in here. If I. Then I want to see him. I've never seen him live.

[C]

I'll look it up for you here.

[A]

Yeah, I want to see.

[F]

The fun part about going to arena shows, whether they're indoor outdoor festivals, is the party atmosphere. The beach, balls flying around the haze, you know, the spilled beers. It's. It's the party.

[C]

I will warn you, Joe, you. You may get some speeches you don't like from them. No, I don't care.

[B]

That's government music.

[A]

I don't care. Yeah, I don't care. It does Cherry Bomb. I'll be happy.

[B]

Is that your favorite?

[E]

That's when a smoke was smoke.

[A]

That's when a smoke.

[B]

Right.

[F]

I actually have a John Mellencamp video saved on my phone.

[E]

He saw him at First Avenue with about five other guys.

[F]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

This is. I know the one you got.

[F]

You should look it up. John Mellencamp. Let it all hang out. Matthew, go to the Internet right now.

[E]

I already know what doing you're talking about.

[A]

And yes, it's wonderful.

[E]

I can't with my son here.

[F]

Oh, okay.

[C]

I forgot.

[F]

Yeah. It's proof of a higher power, let me tell you that.

[C]

How many of us remember? Probably Joe. I'm guessing that that actually is a cover. Maybe Joe doesn't even remember.

[F]

I didn't know that.

[E]

I didn't know.

[A]

What's the song again?

[C]

Let it all hang out.

[A]

Yeah. That's a cover.

[C]

Yeah, the Hombres had a hit.

[B]

We have now lost Kenny for the remainder.

[F]

Why don't you guys remember?

[A]

Finish up the show to answer to. Tell you what Kenny's up to. There's a very fetching young woman who dances to the song. That's about it. It's not that big of a deal.

[B]

Kenny only watches.

[C]

Joel.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

July 14th, he will be at the brand new Toledo Mystic Lake Amphitheater in Chakra.

[A]

Poop.

[B]

I'm not driving all the way to Shakopee.

[E]

John when Is he coming?

[C]

July 14th.

[A]

Oh, you know who? I wonder.

[F]

I'm prepared to drive across the country to see Southern Culture on the Skids. I can't believe this band has been along around for as long as they have and I haven't seen them.

[A]

Why don't they Southern Culture.

[F]

Southern Culture on the Skids.

[A]

Ever heard of them?

[F]

Oh my goodness. So wonderful. Joe.

[A]

I, yeah, I, I, I, I.

[B]

Well, that'll be in the summer though. That'll be nice for a melon camp.

[A]

And that's outdoors.

[B]

That amphitheater is going to be sweet.

[F]

When it opens and you shut your mouth and you pay respect to the artist.

[A]

But I do. Anyway, yesterday I was wondering.

[B]

Rookie, I'm so disappointed in you.

[E]

Huh?

[B]

We just had a six minute discussion about John Mellon Camp.

[E]

I was going to, but I did self.

[A]

You're not supposed to.

[B]

I know. I said I'm proud of him.

[E]

It had to do with watermelons.

[A]

Can I tell you that I asked yesterday. I wonder why the Lymans are in Kaiwaka, New Zealand. And Tom writes back on yesterday's podcast. You wonder why we decided to stay in Kaiwaka? There is not much wildlife in the area. There are several peacocks and other birds. It is a rural area, mostly farming. There are lots of sheep and cattle grazing the surrounding hills. We decided that between the cruise we disembarked in December and embarking on the same ship in April, there were four months in between New Zealand and Australia. Each only allow US citizens to stay up to 90 days. So we decided to split the time between those two countries. We'll stay two months in Kuwawocka, then fly from Auckland to Hobart. We'll drive to Penguin, Tasmania, Australia, where we rented a vacation home. From there, in April, we'll fly from Hobart to Brisbane, then board the same cruise ship and sail for 25 days on a Trans Pacific cruise from Brisbane, Australia to Seattle, Washington. All these bookings were predicated due to the fact that we wanted to be back in Minnesota in May and June for our grandson's graduation. We'll be in Minnesota from May 16 to June 5. Well, consider yourself booked during that time traveling Lymans. Isn't that something? The organization they have for this worldwide adventure they're on is extraordinary.

[F]

Yes, they're global nomads.

[A]

They're just really good at it. And like I said, they really must like each other.

[E]

It's not for everybody.

[A]

Worldwide waftage worldwide waftage.com it's only because they come to us all the way From Kawaka, New Zealand. It was on this day, Joe.

[B]

Today is January 20th.

[A]

In 1896, on a theatrical tour, Calamity Jane. Anybody know her real name?

[C]

Name?

[E]

Calamity Jane.

[A]

Martha Canary Burke.

[F]

You beat me to it.

[A]

Appeared at the Palace Museum in Minneapolis dressed in the male attire of buckskin jacket and trousers. And giving the people of the eastern cities an opportunity of seeing the Woman Scout who was made so famous through her daring career in the west and Black Hill countries.

[F]

Her portrayal on the HBO show of Deadwood was phenomenal. I learned a lot of new words.

[A]

I bet. On this day, Jan.20th in 1961, a fire destroyed the Crosby family home which had been built at the foot of Montreal street in St. Paul and is now the site of Crosby Farm Park.

[E]

Love that.

[A]

I wish I could remember or claim that. I. I remembered that. I don't because I wasn't around there in 1961.

[E]

No, you weren't around here.

[A]

On this day in 1969, President Lyndon Johnson bestowed the Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor awarded by the US on civil rights activist Roy Wilkins. Wilkins was born in Mississippi, but spent most of his life in St. Paul. In 1923, he graduated from the University of Minnesota, where he was the Minnesota dailies for first Black reporter and Editor. He served as executive director of the NAACP from 1955 to 1977. A postage stamp honoring him was issued in 2001. Did you note that the Trumper was the first president to completely ignore MLK Day? Never mentioned it yesterday, huh?

[F]

Crosby park is down on Shepherd.

[A]

Well, if. Montreal. Montreal, right across. If you cross shepherd, you go down there was Crosby Park.

[B]

So it's by Summit.

[E]

It's where everybody bikes.

[A]

Summit Brewing. It's in that neighborhood.

[E]

Okay. Yeah. If you go a little further to the.

[A]

On this day, Jan.20th in 1981, Lowell Bruce Langan, who grew up in Odin, Minnesota, was one of 52 hostages released from the American Embassy in Tehran after being held by Islamic militants for 444 days during the Iran hostage crisis. Langan was charge d' affaires at the embassy. Got it.

[F]

We have a town named after a Norse God.

[A]

I hope so. It's Mini Soda.

[F]

That's cool.

[A]

Odin.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history.

[B]

Joe, who did we lose to on January 20th?

[A]

Well, on this day in 1974, Harry Neal was kicked out of a game for throwing chairs onto the rink. Oh, all right. On this day, Jan.20 in 1977. On this day, the second incarnation of the Fighting Saints franchise officially folded. Thank You Gia, word to your mother.

[B]

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[A]

Free.

[B]

Yes, I use the word free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in G. Boy Josh, a historic turnaround for the Indiana Hoosiers football program and boy oh boy, I have a feeling that DraftKings and the like that you always tout. They probably had a big night last night, didn't they?

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I'm sure the DraftKings did have a big, big night last night as did, as did fanduel having a big night and probably some of the other sports books and the predictions market. But that is not reflected today in the stock prices of DraftKings. Flutter, which owns FanDuel or Robin Hood which has one of the bigger predictions. Market game was very, very close and probably we'll say somebody did not cover, cover the spread so to speak and maybe, maybe the betters thought the difference would be a lot bigger for Indiana over over Miami and there was a chance of a little bit of an up but it was a very very good game. And Indiana has the first team in about 130 years to have a 160 season. The last one was the Yale Bulldog back in I think 1897. Going that many games undefeated obviously is unprecedented. I'll say my two, two sons, graduates of Indiana were extremely happy. My brother a graduate of the University of Miami. Not, not so much a lot of, a little bit of money hands in the Arnold family over this particular particular game. And speaking of changing hands now, the sell America trade is in force today as over the weekend the president threat significant tariff on several European countries over Greenland. He said unless he or the United States wins Greenland, the tariff will go with force. 10% tariffs on several European countries in February, another event that increases to 25% in July if no deal is struck with with Greenland. Now there are many ways you can look at, look at this either. I'll say one is a show of power. Two, definitely a show of force. Three could, it could be extending we'll say the Trump doctrine to minimize threat China and Russia. And four, this could be the start, but hasn't already happened of an unraveling I'll say relationship that has been enforced since, since World War II. And that could, could change a lot of dynamic around the world. But the big concern among several traders is that the Europeans start selling U.S. government bonds as well as U.S. stocks that they, they have in their portfolio. Now a lot of people say well this would be horrible and yes, it would be bad. Should the Europeans start selling bond or any other country start selling US Bonds in May, what would happen? Bond prices would go down and yields would go up. And as yields go up, that means the cost of borrowing goes up. And that is definitely a hurt for a lot of, for a lot of not all of, but a lot of technology shares are those companies that need to borrow money. But if you are a bond holder and bonds go down and yield go up, bond prices go down and yield go up, or if you own bond funds, your bond fund value goes down even though your yield goes up. And you're forced to wait either until interest rates come down or until countries start buying back bonds. And the selling of bonds creates what the Fed, the Fed has done this selling bonds, that is creates a quantitative tightening position with yields up and that can slow economic growth. And that is, that becomes negative. But the sellers of bonds as you'll go up are not going to be winners at all. They're going to, they are going to be or could be say significant losers. And we've seen this before. Just look at the long term US treasury index which is still significantly underwater even from last year's high, much, much less the 2022 high. So from the 2022 high till today, the long term treasury index is down close to 50%. That to me is very significant. And other bond we'll say bond indices are also down, though not as much. So if you have bonds in your portfolio or bonds in your or bond funds within your 401k or even have in your 401k the target date funds, you're going to have a good position in bond funds. And my suggestion is don't. As I said previously, growth will out and yes, owning shares does subject you to volatility such as the volatility we've seen today with the indices down, big.

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Numbers.

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Technology shares down, bank stocks down and only a few stocks trading trading in the green. Those are around energy and we'll say energy and beverages as well as a few defense oriented names. But my suggestion within the 401k or or even in your own personal portfolio or IRA, stay away from the bond funds and gravitate to individual stocks or stock funds.

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Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

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Look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

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