12/12 Steven C, Jillian, and pat Donohue in studio for your Christmas pleasure

Summary

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Garage Logic Podcast Summary

Episode: “12/12 Steven C, Jillian, and Pat Donohue in studio for your Christmas pleasure”
Date: December 12, 2025
Host & Crew: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor"), Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, John Haidt, the Rookie, special in-studio guests Steven C Anderson (piano), Jillian Anderson (vocals), Pat Donohue (guitar)
In-Studio Musicians: Steven C, Jillian Anderson, Pat Donohue, John Haidt
Location: Gamut Podcast Network
Theme: A festive, music-centered episode presenting live performances from local artists, friendly banter, and discussion of holiday concerts, traditions, and the unique power of live music community.

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Episode Overview

This special holiday edition of Garage Logic focuses on the joy of live music, Minnesota holiday traditions, and the comfort of community, featuring live in-studio performances by pianist Steven C, vocalist Jillian Anderson, and Grammy-winning guitarist Pat Donohue. The episode highlights their upcoming Christmas shows at the St. Paul Cathedral, explores the behind-the-scenes life of working musicians, reflects on listener appreciation, and includes the signature wit and camaraderie among the cast.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Musical Guests & Holiday Concert Promotion

• Cathedral Shows: Steven C, Jillian, and Pat discuss their holiday concerts at the St. Paul Cathedral (December 18-19, with ticket details and a notable children’s choir and live pipe organ).
• Affordable tickets ($10) and community-oriented approach: “Our goal has been to lose less money per show.” – Steven C [15:37]
• Matinee and evening times (Friday, 2:00pm & 7:00pm; Thursday, 7:00pm).
• Crooners gig: Pat Donahue plugs his own Christmas Guitar Summit show with PK Mayo and Tim Sparks at Crooners (Monday, 6:30pm). [09:56]

2. Live In-Studio Performances

• Original Parody: “It’s The Most Fraudulent Time of the Year” – a tongue-in-cheek re-write reflecting Minnesota’s public money scandals. [04:52]

  "With the kids rapid shooting and everyone looting to get some free gear, it’s the most fraudulent time of the year!"
  (— Steven C & band, 05:00)

• Holiday Standards:

  • “I’ll Be Home for Christmas” [16:59]
  • “Little Drummer Boy” [33:13]
  • “Silent Night” [36:25]
  • “What Child Is This?” [43:34]
  • “Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire (The Christmas Song)” [52:08]
  • "Jingle Bells" [29:28]

• Improvised ‘After Party’ Blues:

  • "There's a wreath on every door on every house in my neighborhood... Christmas time is coming, Lord, it don't mean me no good."
    (— Pat Donahue, 57:37)

3. Musician Life & Backstories

• Family & Musical Heritage:
  • Pat and Steven discuss their tangled cousinship (via McQuillan family) [12:46].
  • Jillian on being 3rd generation Lebanese and family traditions [13:11].
• Balancing Acts:
  • Jillian describes the stress and reward of putting together annual concerts as a small family business.

    "My husband’s shows and baby Jesus—if Christmas wasn’t coming, I would not be stressed, and I'd be 120 over 80."
    (— Jillian Anderson, 33:04)

  • Steven on founding the Cathedral concert:

    "I wanted to do one Christmas show... and here we are back for the ninth!" (— Steven C, 13:42)

• Instrument Talk:
  • Guitar Geek-out: Pat plays a Martin Pat Donahue signature model; John Haidt plays a Washburn acoustic electric [40:12].
  • Steven’s beloved 9-foot piano: "On my 29th year with this piano…that’s why she needed a couple new legs." (— Steven C, 15:06)
• Independence in Career:

  "Now, I would’ve given anything for three agents back when I was thirty... now, I’d probably make myself crazy. So, I’m just where I want to be."
  (— Pat Donahue, 49:51)

4. Holiday Traditions, Listener Gifts, & Community

• Listener Engagement:
  • Joyful reactions to gifts/cards/calendars from Maryland listener Krista [06:25–08:46].
  • Sharing gratitude for the Garage Logic audience’s support of the musicians’ live shows [13:53].
• Community at Cathedral Shows:
  • "It’s become an annual tradition. And again, I wanted to do one, and now are nine..." (— Steven C, 46:47)
  • Emphasis on low ticket prices and accessibility [15:25–15:35, 25:25].
• Listener Quotes:

  “Beauty is so important and it is so needed... music is an equalizer.”
  (— Jillian Anderson, 41:51)

5. Banter, Humor, and the Garage Logic Spirit

• Running jokes about spelling “Wednesday”, Minnesota’s weather history, and presenter antics.
• Frequent playful bickering about gifts, memories from past events, and inside references (e.g., “He’d like a seat as close to the exit as possible.”—Chris Reavers, 55:46).
• Commentary on the ever-present controversies over Christmas songs and the importance of sticking to traditional songbooks with a few pop additions [20:01–20:46].
• Outtakes and 'after-party' jam sessions capture both the musicians’ skill and the casual, behind-the-scenes feel [57:08–62:37].

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Music’s Power:

  "It has a way... it just kind of calms you out. And the cathedral is a place where, even without music, you just go in there, and it’s such a gem."
  (— Steven C, 41:27)

• On the Episode’s Vibe:

  "I can't ever imagine going back and doing another show like Garage Logic normally does – I think we're done. We're just going to do a song!"
  (— Joe Soucheray, 48:09)

• On Garage Logic Tradition:

  "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream..." (— Ronald Reagan, quoted, 28:34)

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Noteworthy Timestamps & Segments

• [04:52] – “It’s The Most Fraudulent Time of the Year” live parody
• [16:59] – “I’ll Be Home for Christmas”
• [29:28] – “Jingle Bells” medley
• [36:25] – “Silent Night” (with discussion on children’s choir, cathedral acoustics, and program planning)
• [43:34] – “What Child Is This?”
• [52:08] – “Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire”
• [57:37] – Pat Donahue’s bluesy ‘after party’ jam
• [41:27, 41:51] – Reflections on music as comfort and necessity in troubled times.

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Final Thoughts & Recommendations

This episode stands out as a warm, festive musical interlude—less about hot takes and politics, more about community, tradition, and the transformative power of live music. The guests’ performances shine amid friendly ribbing and Garage Logic’s affection for the Midwest, its quirks, and its people.

For More Info:

• St. Paul Cathedral concert tickets: stevencmusic.com/christmastogether or Eventbrite
• Pat Donahue Christmas Guitar Summit at Crooners, Monday 6:30pm
• Find links and support the artists via Garage Logic show page

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Tone: Warm, irreverent, playful, but deeply appreciative of musicianship and holiday traditions.
Best For: Anyone seeking a slice of Minnesota Christmas spirit, live acoustic performance, or the “logic” behind a joyful season in Gumption County.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[A]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Sush.

[C]

Sam.

[A]

That's what I'm talking about.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

We have in the studio Stephen C. Anderson, Gillian Anderson, Pat Donahue, John Haidt has brought his guitar. We are going to set our cares and woes aside. You were supposed to stay out there till the break.

[D]

No, I need to know if I need to know.

[A]

And just enjoy some beautiful music from these guys. Who will be at the cathedral on what, two days, you guys, right? December 18th and 19th, is that correct?

[E]

That is correct.

[A]

And tickets are only 10 bucks go to Eventbrite, right?

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And the only people aren't here are Kathryn Boodzian and Jack Cassidy.

[E]

Correct. And a 30 piece children's choir. And the pipe organ from the cathedral.

[A]

Would not fit today.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Yeah, all the stops.

[F]

A few string players as well. Oh, this is going to be violin.

[A]

Well, let's get the times here. It's Friday. It's Thursday, December 18th. Friday, December 19th at 7:00pm at the Cathedral. Both nights at 7:00pm And a matinee. Oh, and a matinee.

[F]

Matinee on Friday.

[E]

Joe can make that at 2 o'. Clock.

[A]

Friday at 2 o'.

[G]

Clock.

[E]

Come on.

[A]

Oh, I will.

[E]

We can get you on the guest list.

[A]

Can you get me a pew in the back somewhere? You know, don't let him pull this.

[B]

He's got a tea tank.

[A]

No, I would love to.

[F]

What if we put you in the archbishop's chair? Right up there with Stephen C. On the altar.

[A]

It's just fantastic to have you guys here. And thanks for having us. We have a wonderful song. It was donated by one of our emailers, and I think it's. Jordy wrote the lyrics and I tried to get it done all week, but my instructions were misunderstood, if not neglected entirely. And it's called it's the most fraudulent Time of year because we're learning that we don't know yet how much money has been stolen from us in Minnesota. And so this is called. It's. You tell me when you're ready, Julian.

[F]

I'm ready. I just need my garage logic hat.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

So nice.

[A]

All right. This is the most Fraudulent Time of Year by the band.

[C]

It's the most fraudulent time of the.

[G]

Year.

[C]

With the kids rapid shooting and everyone looting to get some free gear it's the most fraudulent time of the year hey now. It's the thieve thievingest season of all with waltzy denials and fake happy smiles when thieves come to call.

[A]

It's a.

[C]

Fraud frodiest season oh, raw. There'll be parties for hosting Subpoenas for toasting and cash laying out in the snow There'll be sad budget stories and tales of the dreams of surpluses long, long ago it's the most fraudulent time of the year There'll be much finger pointing and waltz is gaslighting with feds coming near it's the most fraudulent time of the year.

[A]

Oh, that is so good. That is so good. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Would you guys mind if we open some gifts? We have a lister in western Maryland, Krista, who sent a great big box of gifts, and I had to find a device to open it, and Johnny Height helped and we all got beautiful gifts, including calendars. And look at this. This is for the teens.

[D]

You're ruining the surprise here. I don't know what it is.

[A]

Well, it's a calendar of. This is a calendar of western Maryland. And I. You look at the pictures of this and you know, western Maryland might be the place you want to.

[B]

Scenic. Very scenic.

[E]

Look at that, huh?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Didn't you get another one?

[A]

Kenny, all your stuff is here, too. Yeah, I got a calendar of back.

[B]

Roads in America because that looks really cool. That might be coming home with me.

[A]

And I got a. I got some items here. I got some items I got a golf bag. I think it's a Christmas decoration, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. And a golf ball. Put that on the tree.

[B]

Very cool.

[A]

I'm gonna sneak those on the tree. When? At home.

[B]

Will she allow it?

[A]

They'll be stuck on the tree. There'll be nothing to.

[D]

I don't know what this says about my reputation.

[A]

Whiskey. Whiskey calendar.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Huh.

[H]

Chris, what did you get?

[B]

Yeah, mine was craft beer.

[A]

Oh, I see. Mine's guitar Roads.

[H]

I got guitars.

[G]

What was mine, Joe?

[A]

Well, I didn't open yours.

[G]

Go ahead and open it up.

[A]

Well, it's in the other room. Oh, it's in the other room. But I'll be glad to do it at some opportune time. Right now, though, this is what they do on.

[D]

On TV shows. It's not really wrapped. You just take it out.

[A]

What'd you get?

[D]

Probably a lump of coal.

[A]

No, you gotta unwrap it. What'd you get? Another ornament.

[D]

It's a jingle all the way thing.

[A]

Oh, this is perfect. She's a good wrapper. Yeah, yeah, she's a very good wrap.

[D]

I believe it's an ornament.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's see.

[I]

What is it?

[A]

Is that a grill?

[D]

Oh, yeah. It's a smoker. Smoker Seasons Grillings.

[A]

That's amazing.

[H]

Look at this.

[D]

And it's red and white. So it can go on the Christmas tree.

[B]

I know I'm not on camera. I'm gonna steal your guys. She got me a baseball.

[H]

Nice.

[I]

And this is so she.

[H]

She knows this all well because to go with my guitar calendar, she got me a guitar. Christmas.

[A]

Krista, you're the first ornament.

[D]

Thank you. This is all the way from Eastern Western.

[A]

She lives in Frostburg Western.

[G]

Thanks for leaving me out.

[A]

Wait a minute. Is it Frostburg?

[D]

Frostbite.

[A]

It's frost something. Thank you. Is it Frostburg? I don't know.

[D]

This is like the old days when we used to get gifts from listeners.

[A]

Who was that one lady that came?

[D]

Canadian.

[A]

Well, this, Chris, is the new. And the Canadian we lost and the Canadian we did.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

That's not good. Yeah. All right. Well, let's not hope that's a sign.

[D]

No, no, keep them coming.

[A]

And I got a history calendar and a book of history. And that's all from a listener gang that we have in western Maryland.

[D]

Is this for my birthday or is this for Christmas?

[A]

Your birthday is very close.

[D]

You know when it is.

[A]

It's around Christmas. 26.

[H]

No, 23rd.

[D]

Thank you for paying attention. I only worked with him since 1980.

[B]

You know why you should know that, Joe, is because remember, on certain occasions he'd have to stay home so he could prepare the feast.

[D]

Yeah, I mean, it's a buildup. There's some gas lighting.

[A]

It's fun to have Stephen with us and Jillian and Pat Donahue. Pat, by the way, will be at Crooners Monday night playing with PJ Mayo. We know PJ Mayo.

[I]

PK Mayo.

[A]

Tim Sparks also. And Tim Sparks, yeah. Oh, you guys are guitar extravaganza.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

You're going, aren't you?

[H]

I am going.

[A]

Going, yeah. That's at Crooners Monday night at 7, 6:30. 6:30. I'll get some of these right yet it's PK mail.

[B]

What does Crooner seat? What's the capacity for crooners? I've never been there before.

[I]

This particular room, there's three places there, but this room is. Holds about 80, 90 people, something.

[H]

Oh, cool.

[B]

Yeah, very cool.

[I]

It's a nice place.

[B]

Johnny, I'm crashing at your. At your place afterwards.

[H]

Yeah, no, I don't think so.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Stephen, what are you guys up to when you're not performing? I mean, this is your. Is this your busiest time of year?

[E]

It's very busy. Yep.

[A]

And it's not only the cathedral where you guys appear.

[E]

We got a few other places. We do St. Joe's and West St. Paul, some Stillwater stuff, and lots of.

[F]

Astor Cafe on Saturdays before Christmas from 11 to 1.

[C]

Brunch.

[F]

Yes, with our friend Jack Cassidy.

[A]

All right, now, is Jack an instrumentalist or a vocalist? Vocalist or just a vocalist? And he plays guitar. What about Linda Boudzian? It's not Catherine Budzian. I feel like I'm doing a state fair show. I can't get any name right. I can't get times right. Although it's the 18th and 19th at the cathedral, I do have that right. Well, you guys, you own the room, man. You take it over.

[E]

I'd just like to say I'd like to throw this one to Pat because it's so fun to have him at the cathedral. And it's not that he needs to get to church, but I do like to bring him there often. And then he brings me to the midway. I don't know if I need to.

[I]

Get to the top saloon.

[A]

He brings me to church his first year.

[E]

He said it's not his normal venue. And so I'd like to feature Pat.

[A]

On this next wonderful.

[C]

It's.

[A]

Oh, that's beautiful. Pat's award winning guitarist.

[E]

He very much Grammy played with Keeler.

[A]

And the whole deal. And we're. We're so. We're cousins. We. We don't really know how.

[D]

It's funny that you always mention that, but Pat never does.

[A]

Pat acknowledges it, but it's complicated. It has to do something with your mom's.

[I]

My dad and your dad were first cousins.

[A]

Yeah. And I don't know how that was, but it has to do with the name McQuillan, I think.

[I]

The McQuillan.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. So we're cousins. We know each other really well. We spend a lot of time together as cousins. Sure, yeah. And Jillian, what's your background?

[F]

Well, I too have many cousins that I can't describe exactly how we are cousins because I'm Lebanese.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[F]

So when we get to the point where we say my dad and your dad were cousins, or my dad's mom and your grandma were sisters, we just say cousins. We are just family.

[A]

Now, Lebanese, are you safely in the country? You're not worried about ice?

[F]

I'm third generation Lebanese.

[A]

Oh, you're fine. You're fine.

[F]

So my great grandparents immigrated on both sides.

[A]

Wonderful, wonderful. And Stephen, you've been around your whole life in the Twin Cities?

[E]

I have been. I like it in St. Small a lot. Hang out in the town and country. And I can't believe that this year is the 9th. I wanted to do one Christmas show at the cathedral and so here we.

[A]

Are back for the ninth.

[E]

Exactly. And I just want to thank GL for supporting us because the fans, they come out and they always make it a point to say, we heard you on Garage Lodge.

[A]

Oh, nice. How are the show structured at the cathedral? You're having a choir of 30 children. Yes.

[E]

It's a bit of a variety show. So we do. We mix it between. Pat has some solo guitar stuff. I have some solo piano stuff. A lot of stuff with three part harmonies is fun. When you get into the big part of oh, Holy Night with the organ and strings and three things, it's moving. And so we're actually. Right now. Don't tell everybody. We're putting the program together today.

[A]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[D]

Now do we have an influence at all?

[E]

Of course. We have a new song.

[A]

Are you up in the altar area?

[E]

We're right on the altar.

[A]

On the altar.

[E]

And we bring in sound and lights and it's the big show of the year.

[F]

We also brought the piano. We sent the piano. The nine foot piano leaves our house in the suburbs of St. Paul. It goes all the way into the cathedral, usually in a snowstorm. Like this year. And then they set it up, and.

[E]

It'S been sitting there.

[D]

How was the leg?

[E]

Oh, good. Good memory. I fixed not one. All three legs.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

So we're sturdy.

[E]

Yeah, we're sturdy. No falling down.

[A]

This isn't a piano you got at Goodwill. This is.

[E]

No, this is a step up first, a shop called Beethoven's pianos in New York. And when I played it, I lost my mind. I had stopped at nothing to get it. I'm on my 29th year with this piano. So that's why she needed a couple new legs, really.

[A]

Now, the arch signs this. The cathedral loves this. They want to bring you in.

[E]

And what's nice, and for your listeners, too, is this is a real chance to bring in the community. It's not like you have to, you know, it's very open to everyone. We keep the ticket price really low.

[A]

The tickets are low, man. Yeah.

[E]

We think it's probably one of the most affordable shows in town, and our goal has been to lose less money per show.

[F]

That's not my goal.

[A]

That's very similar to a weight loss contest the sports writers at the Pioneer Press had about 30 years ago, and the winner was the guy who gained least. That's a good way to look at it. Now, will Jillian be taking the lead in a lot of the songs at the cathedral?

[E]

We balance things out, but there's some certain lobbying that goes on.

[F]

No, there's no favorites. And actually, I'm like, no, there's two now.

[A]

You two are married, by the way. We need to point that out.

[F]

Yes, that is true. Yeah, that is. So I usually write myself out of the show because I have so many other tasks that come my way. Like, people are like, can I get a reserve seat?

[A]

Will you do one for us? That you'll be doing at the cathedral. Oh, well, gosh.

[B]

Even put the program together yet, Joe?

[F]

Yeah, No, I know. Nothing like a deadline. I'm helping, and we do that in whatever.

[E]

All right. I'll do some color.

[A]

Johnny Heights.

[D]

It's indeed John.

[H]

D. Thank you.

[D]

Got it.

[F]

D d We call this dress rehearsal.

[A]

All right.

[F]

For the cathedral?

[A]

Yeah, go ahead. Let this be your rehearsal for the whole show.

[F]

It's about as much rehearsal as we get for the whole show.

[C]

I'll be home for Christmas, you can count on me? Please have snow and mistletoe and presents under the tree. Christmas Eve will find me where the lovelight clear? I'll be home for Christmas if only in my dreams? If only in my dreams.

[A]

Oh, it's wonderful. It's just wonderful. Do you do anything? Do you do anything that would be raucous or more high tempoed during the show?

[E]

A great question. And on this last song, as an experienced producer, when I heard them working on this, I thought I should not play. That's the best thing. So I think I really nailed it.

[A]

You didn't play on that. You played very minimally at all because.

[E]

It was so good.

[D]

Know when not to manage. That's the key. Know when not to manage.

[E]

Yeah, Pat carried it. It's beautif 8 second reverb. So your Carol of the bell just rings so nice. But you find anything that's really fast and big. The cathedral doesn't like it as much.

[A]

Will the shell get away from you?

[E]

It just gets a little bit messy. Like if we go tell it on the mountain, it gets kind of messy so we're more soothing. And you know what? It's a good place to chill.

[A]

Do you guys do Baby, It's Cold Outside.

[E]

That one does not make the list.

[A]

But do you do it anyway?

[E]

Sometimes.

[A]

Do you do it for Glad?

[E]

Well, I can drive it because I know there's some controversy about it, but.

[A]

That'S why I brought it up. Of course, of course, of course. There should be.

[G]

No, the time to bring it up, though, was last week so they'd be ready.

[E]

I like to do things.

[A]

Well, you don't have to do it today. I was just curious. I was just curious. You don't have to do it today.

[D]

Work on it for next year.

[A]

Yeah, and I won't go into it. But when that controversy arose, there was a terribly profane, grotesque song in America that happened to be number one on the charts. I'm not going to go into it. But the whole thing.

[B]

You guys should learn that one.

[A]

That was so fraudulent. So fraudulent that I couldn't believe it.

[G]

Bring them off in a bucket.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, don't. We don't want to do that, Kenny. Yeah, no, we're with professionals here who know their music and we're not gonna.

[B]

That would be your last show at the cathedral cancelled.

[A]

But just think of the outrageousness that somebody actually had the nerve to bring that up. That's ridiculous. I wanted to ask you too. There's a lot of controversy. Not a lot of controversy, but the dark people among us. I don't mean skin color. I mean the people have a dark vision of life. They keep finding problems with Christmas songs. They keep coming up with problems and I think it's just they don't really have much else to do is one problem. And you guys, you just stick to the traditional songbook, don't you? I mean, yeah, there's no controversy, a.

[E]

Little bit of pop stuff. None of the real current.

[A]

You know what's an example of the pop stuff?

[E]

Chestnuts roasting. Christmas time is here. We could actually hear a little dueling guitar version or something like that.

[D]

Please. Later on.

[A]

What about right now? How about I first I'm gonna tell you if you're hauling that big piano around and God forbid you get in an accident, call Bradshaw and Bryant, personal injury attorneys.

[B]

Hey, Mike, that piano's on Summit. Come help me out.

[A]

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[D]

I wish I had my grandpa's brushes today.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Sam.

[A]

Oh, that's beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Take it away. Reavers.

[B]

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[A]

Well, you said us.

[B]

Well, we were invited. Everyone else neglected to respond.

[A]

Well, I won't miss that. I'm on Bilski.

[D]

I get on Bilski's A list all the time. I've known him since way back.

[B]

That's a really cool. I know. I was. You know what we gotta do? We gotta fix that parking issue around there. Why don't we knock down a couple houses and build another ramp or something?

[A]

Stephen Gillian, Pat Donahue, John Haidt on guitars. It occurs to me this is probably not a very novel observation, but is the Charlie Brown Christmas special. It's gotta be as famous for the music as it is for the story. Is that pretty well established right on there? I'd say so, yeah. It's a great story. You all know the story of that. The networks almost didn't let it go on. Charles Schultz said, go bleep yourself. I mean, if you're not playing it, then you don't get it and I'm not going to do it for you. And then now Apple owns it, so it's not on network tv, so the kids want to see it. I guess they got to go stream it. Is that the correct term? Technological people, yes.

[D]

How did. What's the story behind Vince Guaraldi? How did Schultz find Vince? Or was Vince just popular?

[H]

Yeah, he was a known jazz guy. He wrote cast your fate to the wind if you know that song. Before any of that stuff happened. Okay, so he had some notoriety.

[D]

Okay, got it.

[A]

If you guys don't mind, Kenny, with your permission, I'm opening your gifts.

[G]

From who?

[A]

Krista in Maryland.

[G]

Thank you.

[A]

Krista here, she's a really good rapper.

[B]

Please let that be a shotgun for this ornament.

[D]

Well, it's a piece of salmon.

[A]

Oh, it's a backpack with a rifle. Nice. Oh, my God.

[B]

How cool is that?

[A]

It says gone hunting.

[D]

The great part is you're holding it up outside of the camera.

[A]

Oh, that's right.

[E]

Ye.

[B]

I told you.

[A]

I feel like I'm doing a state fair show. Isn't that nice? And, Kenny, you also got a calendar. And Krista has themed. She is themed these calendars. Let's see what Kenny's is.

[D]

She's perfect for us late girls.

[B]

She's absolutely nailed every gift so far.

[G]

Krista is in close running for my favorite giller.

[A]

Is this what you do at home?

[D]

You destroy the wrapping paper aside?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How you doing?

[A]

Please don't damage it.

[D]

My lord.

[A]

I think this is fitting, huh?

[D]

Yeah, True.

[A]

The historic Route 66 for a traffic guy.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

A road trip guy. Thank you, Krista.

[A]

I got highways of America.

[G]

That's so cool.

[D]

I got around.

[A]

No, not highways. I got back roads.

[H]

Back roads? Yep.

[G]

Wow.

[A]

Oh, that's just fantastic.

[G]

You better not leave yours on your desk because I'll have both of those calendars hanging in my studio here.

[A]

And we have a. You guys, was there a framed calendar sitting here?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Let me hold that up. That's a beautiful.

[B]

And for all of you jailers out there feeling left out, the address is 3415 University Avenue.

[A]

This is attention rookie. This is a quote quote from Ronald Reagan that we could hang in the studio.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. That's a quote by Ronald Reagan. We could put that right up in here somewhere. We'll find a spot. Again, I'm not on the camera again.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Looks great, Joe.

[A]

It does. That's fantastic. Take it away with whatever you guys want to do.

[E]

I think we need a little jingle.

[A]

We need to pick it up. That's fine.

[D]

Oh, he's doing an ad here.

[C]

Sa. Bells jingle the bells jingle all the way oh, what fun is to ride.

[A]

On the fly. Yeah.

[G]

Joe, I'm sitting here going, how can pat be playing all those parts at the same time? And then like, oh, John's there.

[A]

I was not playing very much. I was doing this in any genre path. Pat, what is the hardest song to play on the guitar? And why would it be what is difficult? Are you at the point where pretty much nothing is difficult? No, not at all. No.

[I]

There's all kinds of challenges. Always opera. I'm not sure. I suppose opera would be, you know, to get the feeling of that on a, say, a solo guitar. That would be very challenging.

[A]

Do you practice every day?

[I]

Yeah, I do. I play a lot.

[A]

So does height.

[H]

Well, I try to practice every day.

[G]

Pat doesn't have.

[I]

I would think the flight of the bumblebee would be about the hardest thing you could play. This goes too fast.

[D]

Remember the guy that called in and played it on the tuba?

[A]

What?

[D]

Flight of the Bumblebee?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

I forget his name, but he. There was a show I watched one time, speaking of the opera. It was this rabbit that was doing. It was the Barber of Seville, and the rabbit was working on a bald guy's head. And it didn't end well at the end.

[B]

Did you guys notice what I noticed with Pat, by the way, he has a much more intense guitar face than when Johnny plays at the fair. Very intense guitar face. It was fantastic.

[H]

That's because he takes it a little more.

[A]

I do. I think I want to hear Jillian again.

[F]

Oh, God. Okay.

[A]

You had to. You've brought a few Jillian songs.

[F]

Well, we don't practice every day, so we did not really think through much of what we're bringing. What are you feeling like, Joe?

[A]

More just hearing you is. What a fan.

[D]

You left your shoes on the floor. The clothes are dirty again. You know, at home. What do you really. What do you sing to yourself?

[B]

She doesn't do Corn Dog Blues.

[A]

Yeah. She said, I'll. We do a lot of stuff.

[F]

I mean, like, we. We are just constantly sort of working through and in music. Let's see, what did I.

[A]

What Was you two people happy? Is that what you're telling me?

[F]

Yes, I will say. Okay, so I had a doctor's appointment earlier in the week, and my blood pressure was really high. And they're like, is it normally this high? And I said, well, no, I'm just a little stressed. And then they said, well, what's causing your stress? And I said, my husband's shows and baby Jesus. Like, if Christmas wasn't coming, I would not be stressed. And I'd be 120 over 80.

[A]

80.

[F]

I'm not so you.

[A]

I don't know.

[F]

I'm thinking.

[E]

Let us think about that.

[F]

Do you want to do a little.

[E]

For Joe, the drummer? Maybe just a little.

[F]

Oh, yeah. Start with this.

[C]

All right.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Sam.

[A]

Let's go to G. Best version I've ever heard.

[D]

That's for the number one.

[A]

That's the best version.

[D]

He smiled at me Pa Rum pump, pump.

[A]

The little drummer boy. I'll tell you what. Let's take a time out. Sure. And they're gonna work up a song with Jillian, and we're gonna hear from Kenny Olsen.

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

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[C]

Sam. Holy night.

[A]

Oh, that's nice.

[C]

All is calm and all is bright Round yon virgin mother and child Holy infant so tender and sleep in heavenly peace Sleep in heavenly peace. Sam.

[A]

Oh, that's cool. That is so cool.

[B]

That's nuts.

[A]

It's so cool.

[B]

It's nuts. We are nuts and we are nutsmn.

[A]

Segue. Attaboy.

[B]

That's what I do.

[D]

Here.

[B]

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[D]

When you eat that do you have to put your left hand in, put.

[B]

Your left hand out. You get it.

[D]

You get the bit.

[B]

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[H]

No, I. Well, I did stop at County Market, and I got two jars yesterday. One of the original ones and one of the maple bourbon. I just wanted to point out, when Rook said you put your left hand in, he used his right hand.

[D]

Damn it, you caught that.

[H]

I did, yeah.

[D]

Well, if we were below the equator, it would be the right hand.

[B]

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[G]

Joe, may I?

[A]

Yes.

[G]

I want to geek out for a second on the guitar, starting with John. John, what did you bring in today? What are you playing? And then ask Steven this or ask Pat.

[A]

Pat.

[G]

Pat, the same question.

[H]

This is a Washburn acoustic electric that I just purchased, I don't know, about six months ago or so. A really nice, very, very inexpensive, expensive acoustic guitar.

[G]

And you're not plugged in, right?

[H]

I'm not, no.

[G]

And, Pat, that's about the same question.

[A]

What are you playing?

[I]

Pat, this is a Martin Pat Donahue signature model guitar.

[H]

I don't have a signature model. And you don't get one of those unless you can play guitars.

[G]

Pat, John would like to trade you even up right now.

[D]

John blew it, though. You, John, you blew. You should have said. This is a John Height acoustic Exploration.

[A]

A Washburn, John Hyde's signature. Stephen, Julian, and Pat, you occasionally listen to Garage Logic. You've heard some shows.

[E]

Well, religiously.

[A]

Well, I'm not looking for that. I have a question. We don't generally kick back like this. We have discussed the terrible condition this state's in. We have the worst governor in the history of the state. We have unchecked fraud. There's a mystery afoot trying to bring about a country that isn't the country where you'd sit around and do this. Does music make all of that go away for you?

[E]

It actually does. And especially because I know you guys talked about it. We don't use any AI or robots.

[G]

Thank you for bringing that up. That was my next question.

[E]

We really do it. But it does have a way of just like a balm. It just kind of calms you out. And the cathedral is a place where Even without music, you just go in there and it's just such a gem of the Twin Cities.

[A]

Yeah. Jillian, why is your blood pressure so high? We got to work on that because.

[F]

Part of putting on these beautiful experiences for other people. You know, we're a small family business, you know, just a couple of us. And we have a great crew of friends that we hope are our friends after the concerts are done. No, there's a lot of details, but it's worth it because beauty is so important and it is so needed. Like you said, in this day that we're in. And music is an equalizer.

[A]

So this isn't easy to put together this show. There's a lot of. Lot of moving pieces. Yeah.

[F]

And we're doing it all at home with no piano. We at one point had like two 9 foot pianos. We were piano sitting.

[E]

We're out.

[F]

I have a piano that I shipped to Wisconsin to some family because we just didn't have room for all the pianos and like a Christmas tree, but so we actually have no pianos and no Christmas tree yet.

[A]

Is your piano already at the cathedral? Yeah.

[E]

Cause we did the Thanksgiving show.

[A]

Right.

[E]

So you just loved it again. And thank you for the plugs on that. That was wonderful. But it's kind of lying in state there right now. I might go visit it today, see how it's doing.

[A]

What Jillian will sing for us again.

[F]

Sure.

[A]

Do you have another one in mind?

[F]

Yeah. Well, I was thinking we could do a little what child? I mean, it's a little more meditative.

[A]

We're in a meditative mode. I think g eles are due for some.

[F]

So this is one you'll hear at the cathedral. It features Pat and Steve at the beginning. We can do a little of that.

[C]

What child is this? Who lay to rest on Mary's lamb is sleeping Whom angels greet with anthem sweet While shepherds watch are keeping this this is crown Christ the King whom shepherds guard and angels sing Haste, haste to bring him Lord the baby son of Mary.

[A]

That makes everything all right.

[F]

Oh, now I can't figure it in the acoustic.

[A]

Well, I was gonna say, I can't imagine what that's going to be like when it's done so fully. So now, for example, would the children's choir be involved in that song and so some way.

[E]

Not that particular.

[F]

Unless he's listening and would like to reconsider. The children's choir at the cathedral is directed by Dr. Chris Ganza. And I was just emailing with him before. Before we started.

[A]

Are they kids from the cathedral area.

[E]

Yeah. A lot of St. Paul. So I'm saying, ask him what songs the kids are.

[F]

He said he has 34 singers this year or something.

[E]

Doubled.

[A]

Are they grade school?

[E]

What's the range?

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Well, St. Agnes has got a heck of a choir.

[F]

That is true. Actually, he's in charge there as well.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. What songs would they be involved in?

[F]

Well, they're going to do a little Angel Gabriel.

[H]

Yeah.

[E]

Which is just such a haunting melody. Cathedral with children's voices.

[F]

Yeah. And they'll also join us on Silent.

[C]

Night at the end.

[F]

And yes, we will figure it all out.

[E]

It's a work in progress.

[F]

Work in progress. We're letting everyone see how the sausage is made. But, yeah, the details again, on the Cathedral December 18th and 19th at 7pm with the children's choir. And then we have the 2pm on the 19th where the children are likely in school. So they're not involved at that particular show. But have no fear, we do have, you know, another kid in the wing, so happens to be my goddaughter who's joining.

[A]

So I have talked to people who have never missed one of these.

[E]

Oh, that's wonderful. Frequent flyers.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

There's some people who travel in for this.

[B]

You're kidding.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So cool.

[E]

It's become an annual tradition. And again, I wanted to do one, and now are nine and.

[A]

Okay, you got to mark me down for Friday at 2.

[E]

Friday, 2.

[A]

We got you there. And then you'll have to note that we're. We'll end the show a bit early on that Friday.

[B]

Oh, boy. It's like a Thursday. Yeah.

[A]

No, I want. I've heard nothing.

[D]

Fun Friday.

[A]

I've heard nothing.

[B]

Hold on. Before we authorize that is. Is the staff okay ending show early on a Friday?

[A]

Let me think. You know what we'll do? We'll start it a little early.

[B]

I have a question. You mentioned you did a Thanksgiving show. Are there Thanksgiving songs?

[E]

There are. There's, like simple gifts. We gather together and there's a lot of the tone of gratitude. And so it was a bit of a challenge, but many people said, are you going to do it again? And thankfully we are.

[A]

Are you dressed formally for the Christmas show? Are you doing the talks? Or are you looking like you're Right now? What do you got on your can? Your Anguilla shirt?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, you got. Because you want to know why? Yeah.

[E]

And then this. And I do have a costume change somewhere in the middle, too, so.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What are you, Taylor Swift?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, we put up the wall and then the curtain comes down.

[E]

So we like to have a little fun, too.

[A]

When you're in your car, what radio do you like to listen to?

[E]

Ooh, that's listens to you.

[D]

He does.

[A]

He listens to you. Yeah, but we're not on the radio anymore. You had to play the podcast. We do that.

[E]

Technology streaming.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's just. It's just so lovely. I can't ever imagine going back and doing another show like Garage Logic normally does. I think we're done.

[D]

I have a couple.

[A]

I think Garage Logic is over. That's it. We're just gonna do a song.

[D]

I do a couple of guitar courses.

[G]

We're good with that, Joe.

[D]

Couple of good. What is the last guitar you bought and why? No, but his own company.

[H]

Martin is the company.

[I]

I bought an electric guitar a few years ago. A Gibson ES335. A black electric guitar.

[D]

And you went into the store or you saw it after this?

[I]

I just went into Willy's one day and came out with it.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

And I don't know if you guys noticed that, but when I asked the Thanksgiving song question, Matthew was kindly trying to help out with maybe an inspirational Thanksgiving.

[E]

Look at that.

[D]

Tom the turkey, he comes Thursday.

[A]

Tom the turkey, he comes Thursday.

[D]

I don't know any other Thanksgiving songs.

[A]

Both Steven and Patrick, you've. We've talked about this before. I think you've kept your careers. How do I phrase this? You. You've won a Grammy. Pat has.

[I]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

And you've played in Europe.

[I]

Yes.

[A]

You've been all over the world. You. You've kept your career absolutely under your own control. I take it. In other words, you don't have three agents calling you from New York every day.

[I]

No, I don't.

[A]

And you want it that way.

[I]

I do, actually. Now, I would have given anything for three agents back when I was 30. You know, if I was doing that now, I'd probably make myself crazy. So I'm just where I want to be.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Steve, are you where you want to be?

[E]

I am. I had a little round of Nashville management, and I've had different labels and whatever, but being independent right now is a wonderful way to go. We can turn on a dime and write songs about kicking chunks and, you know.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have a kicking song today?

[E]

Well, we were gonna do it on Jingle Bells, but we're still working on it.

[A]

You know, kick the chunk. Kick that junk. Kick it all the way.

[E]

Jill, we're working on it.

[H]

Jill, I was wondering why you didn't ask the GL crew if they're where they want to be.

[A]

No, I know the answer.

[D]

Sad answer. He knows the sad answer now, John.

[A]

Tends to be buy too many guitars.

[H]

That's true. I, I.

[A]

There's probably a support group for that.

[H]

It's an illness. It's an illness. I have right now the paddle. Enjoy this. I have six arch tops.

[A]

Six arch tops.

[H]

And I, I mean, you only need. It's like what a jazz guitarist would use, you know, with the, the hollow body.

[B]

He does it.

[H]

And you need one good one. And these are all good ones. And I can barely play jazz, so well.

[A]

Do you buy them because they all sound different?

[H]

I buy them because they sound different. Sound. No, actually about three of them, pretty much.

[A]

You know what? You buy them for the same reason people buy more of a kind of anything. Because they look neat.

[H]

They.

[G]

Well, I saw motorcycles, snowmobile cars.

[A]

I have three trucks.

[H]

I got three.

[B]

Why I won't items.

[H]

I won't buy one if I don't think it sounds good.

[A]

Right.

[H]

But if it looks good and it sounds good. Yeah. Then I'm happy to own own it.

[I]

But you got a nice one to the state fair last summer.

[H]

Yeah. And that was, that was a new one.

[B]

What's the one that Joe kicked over at the fair?

[H]

Joe kicked over a Strat? Yeah.

[A]

I didn't. I try to. I've tripped. I mean, it was a crowded stage.

[B]

Well, that and that you were freaked out for Monty bringing the big giant alligator. Alligator. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right.

[A]

I didn't like that. You guys, take it away. We can't get enough of this. It's just heavenly. And I hope the listeners are enjoying it. It's just the best.

[D]

I'll be on the spoon.

[A]

It's a spoo. Yep. Just working progress.

[C]

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire.

[F]

Jack.

[C]

Frost nipping at your nose Tiny tots with their eyes all aglow and folks dressed Dressed up like Eskimos Everybody knows a turkey and some mistletoe Help to make the season bright. Yuletide carols being sung by a choir.

[I]

We'Ll find it hard Find it hard.

[C]

To sleep tonight I was so struck.

[F]

By the musical beauty they know that.

[C]

Santa's on his way he's loaded Lots of toys and goodies on his sleigh and every mother's child is gonna spy to see if reindeer really knows how to fly and so I'm offering this simple phrase to kids from 1 to 92. Many Times many ways. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, Christmas. Merry Christmas to you.

[A]

Oh, God.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Man, I like watching people that know what they're doing.

[G]

She could sing the phone book and it would be lovely.

[A]

Yeah. Correct.

[E]

Jingle bell tag.

[I]

That's why I was watching Stephen. He knew what he was doing.

[A]

What instruments will be present at the cathedral besides the piano and the guitar? Guitar. Well, we go really. Horn section.

[E]

No horns. No horns.

[A]

No, no horns.

[E]

The organ is just fascinating.

[A]

That's right. Will that stay up in the organ loft?

[E]

Yeah, we're keeping it there.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

And then we have cello, violin, three vocals and. And. And a reading. A reading. And mandolin, too.

[A]

Well, Kenny, now that you're laughing, I do think it was a dumb question because it probably weighs 17,000 pounds.

[F]

There's actually two sets of pipes.

[A]

Really? But how can you get that to blend with where you are in the front?

[E]

It's magic.

[A]

It is. I bet it does sound magical.

[E]

It's so cool. Two o' clock on Friday.

[A]

Two o' clock Friday. And then seven o' clock Friday.

[E]

Yep.

[A]

And seven o'. Clock. No, Thursday, 7:00pm yes. Friday, two shows. 2:00pm and 7:00pm right.

[F]

At the cathedral in St. Paul. Because some people get it confused with the basilica in Minneapolis, which is also really great, but we've never.

[A]

We're not gonna cross the river.

[F]

Cathedral in St. Paul at stevencmusic.com Christmastogether and Pat's at Crooners on Monday.

[I]

Yes, ma'.

[C]

Am.

[F]

6:30.

[E]

We gotta go practice.

[A]

All right. You're the best. We can't thank you enough.

[E]

We can't thank you and your listeners.

[A]

It's the best. And I'll be in touch before Friday to arrange where you wanna find me or whatnot.

[B]

He'd like a seat as close to the exit as possible.

[A]

I'm not suggesting that, but I will sit at the exit of a pew.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[E]

That's where I like to sit.

[A]

Thank you. Guys. Take a break.

[D]

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[A]

We're back. They've left. We're at the after party. This is where the hair gets let down, the cigarettes get lit. That guy might have a cold one. They've performed the Christmas song, but we have guitarists here who need to let it out a little bit. So they don't even know we're here. Let's just check in and see what they're up to.

[I]

There's a wreath on every door on every house in my neighbor. I mean neighbor. Doggone hood. There's a wreath on every door on every house in my neighborhood. Christmas time is coming, Lord. It don't mean me no good. Well, they sing God Rest Ye Merry gentle. I mean, gentle, dark dawn men. They sing God Rest Ye Merry gentlemen. You think you're gonna rest at Christmas, buddy? Better think again. Did you ever go shopping, people at the Mecca. I mean, the Meg Mega Dark on Mall? Did you ever go shopping, people at the mega mall? There's 10,000 folks all trying to play Santa Claus.

[A]

Look at height, go.

[I]

I got a tree on my floor and some lights on my window I made my window dark on pain There's a tree on my floor and some lights on my window pane well, these Christmas blues Days are running through my.

[A]

Brain.

[I]

Well, I don't know why it makes me feel so. I mean, feel so dark on bed I don't know why Makes me feel.

[D]

So sad so sad, so sad.

[I]

To thinking about the good times that I once have had.

[D]

Whoa, it's got the feet.

[I]

If I was a psychiatrist hand me a pH. I mean a pH Dum Dum D. If I was a psychiatrist had me.

[C]

A Ph.D.

[I]

I'D hang my card on everybody's dream. Lord, I got the Christmas blue.

[D]

All right.

[A]

They don't know we're here. We're still watching them backstage. A lot of the crowd is filing out of the cathedral now. They've just enjoyed it tremendously. They don't know what's taking place at this after party, we don't know what they're gonna do next. We're just waiting here to find out. They don't know we're back here. I don't know what they're gonna be doing next.

[H]

Neither do they.

[A]

Neither do they. But that's the way it goes sometimes when you're chilling out afterwards, you don't even know what'll happen next.

[I]

This is the after party.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. They've left. Will, Will. We don't know if Jillian has sing during the after party. They don't know we're in here. Sure, but kind of creepy.

[E]

She might have a little champagne in. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

We don't know but there might be something she wants to wail on. We don't know. She's been. She's been so anti angelic during the concert. We don't know how she'll.

[G]

The fun about musicians is they can play. They always want to play more. They'll put on a four hour show and then go home and play for another four hours.

[E]

What did he say?

[A]

Nothing, he just ran.

[D]

He was ripping you.

[F]

Ripping you?

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

No, he was saying how good you were.

[A]

All right, here we go. We don't know what they're going to do. We don't know.

[I]

All right, well if that's the case.

[A]

I think we corn dog things.

[D]

I don't think so.

[C]

Sam. It.

[A]

Thank you guys. Now they did see us here. Now they are leaving.

[D]

Now they're kicking us out.

[G]

Yeah, we scared them away.

[B]

Did you mention those show times again?

[A]

Thursday, 2pm at the cathedral, 7pm no, time out.

[D]

How about you let that be seven on Thursday, 2pm on Friday, 7pm on Friday. Cathedral, right at the basilica. I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. At the St. Paul Cathedral.

[A]

Thursday 7pm There we go. Friday, 2pm and 7pm I see Joe.

[H]

Sushere walking into the cathedral.

[A]

Nobody there, hands in his pockets.

[D]

Where's Stephen C?

[A]

And where do people go for these $10 tickets which might be the entertainment bar? Charge more.

[F]

You can find Stephen C On eventbrite or you can go to stevenseamusic.com Christmast together and that'll get you to the place where you can buy tickets for all three days and we will provide.

[B]

A link to the show page today.

[D]

And we won't let you touch it either.

[A]

We'll go.

[B]

Yeah. Katie brought up a good point. Pat, your show is at Crooners and that is what when again?

[I]

Monday night, 6:30 at Crooners and it'd be me and PK Mayo and Tim Sparks. We call it the Pat Donahue Christmas guitar summit.

[H]

And if you have not seen Pat in concert, he kind of runs the show. And he's a blast. Great on the stage. Obviously a wonderful guitar. Guitar player. Tim, also a great guitar player. And P.K. you know, we know. We know he's a great guitar player. Plus, they also. Pat, I don't know, maybe you have more info on this. I know your shows up there pretty much sell out, so hopefully they have some 90 people.

[A]

How in the hell can you even get in?

[I]

Well, there might be a few seats left.

[H]

Okay, so go get them if you're gonna. If you want them, go get em.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

And then for at the interim, they're serving PJ Mayo sandwiches in between.

[A]

All right, thank you. Take a break here.

[B]

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[D]

Yeah, sorry, ladies. They want to their money back.

[A]

Thank God, Joe. I blew it.

[B]

Still have your calendar.

[A]

TG it, Joe.

[B]

Hold on one second, K.

[A]

It's the scramble.

[B]

Darn right it is. And as always, it's brought to us by our friends at Harmony Spirits. Is Harmony featured on your whiskey calendar, Matthew?

[D]

Yes, they are. They've got. They are June.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yes, appreciate that.

[E]

It's the.

[B]

June is when they do their car show every year.

[D]

It's the strong. The barrel aged bourbon. The strong stuff. Yeah, that's the good stuff.

[B]

How long did that last at your house, by the way?

[D]

Probably Thursday night.

[B]

Harmonyspirits.net is the website. Go in. It's gonna be a festive time to stop in at that tasting room and take part in that rotating menu of craft cocktails. They also make those fantastic ready to make. What do you call those? The ready made. Ready ready made drinks.

[D]

Pre mix cocktails.

[A]

We call them premix and they are.

[B]

Available at the tasting room. But go into your local liquor store, ask for the Harmony brand by name. It doesn't matter what you're a fan of. Rum, gin. I gotta get that. Caramel apple rum. By the way, that looks really, really good. And you can also.

[D]

Not the basics. They got a great vodka that you can put in with a saliva. No, not the saliva. That was. What is the stuff? The ginger beer. Moscow mule.

[B]

Moscow Mule.

[D]

Fantastic.

[B]

But say hi to Larry and Damon and the entire Harmony Harmony Spirits crew at that tasting when please let them know that you heard about their brand here on the garagelogic podcast.

[A]

Joe. Well, my thanks to Stephen and Jillian and Patrick Height went unnoticed there, but he was filling in quite the marvelous guitar parts. I can't wait to see that show.

[G]

Wish I would have been there crowding the studio with you. I was scheduled to be. We were going to have a meeting at your house after the show. One of the participants couldn't make it. And you know me, I'll take use any excuse to. To stay home and not go there.

[A]

Right.

[G]

And I really blew it. I should have gone anywhere.

[A]

Anyway, I have a.

[D]

We missed you, Kenny.

[A]

A little correction to make a little correction. Well, yesterday I told you that I had a hot take. In fact, it was a very hot take.

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Very hot, warm and tremendous. Hottest thing ever. I told you that Devil's Tower might very well have been a fossilized tree.

[G]

Well, that was fun.

[D]

Yeah, I bought it.

[G]

You're not gonna retract that, are you?

[A]

No, but an emailer, Eric, writes, the claim that the Devil's Tower is a tree trunk was posted as pure satire on 2017 on a satirical website called Casper Planet. It was never meant to be taken seriously, but on today's social media, there are always some willing to believe anything. I guess he means me. Revamped eight years later, the Wyoming State Parks Department quickly debunked it. In 2020, USA Today reiterated that this joke is pure satire, but on social media, nonsense never dies.

[G]

And I. Joe, I don't think you need a retraction because none of us here believed you.

[A]

That's true.

[G]

Or gave you any credibility.

[D]

I wasn't really paying attention.

[H]

Let me take that one step Further, Kenny. I actually immediately looked it up and started laughing.

[B]

I did, too.

[H]

I'm not gonna let Joan.

[A]

He's rolling. Let him roll.

[D]

Oh, you knew.

[A]

You knew that. I don't want to talk about GL stuff today. Back to those taxes. Yeah.

[I]

Hey, what's.

[D]

Hey, walls. What are you doing now?

[B]

Actually, I. I don't know if you guys knew this, but we didn't get to one song that they were going to play today.

[A]

What's that? Kill the wabbit. Killed the wa. I have a question.

[D]

North winds blow.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

When you hear musicians of that quote quality, does it make you want to resume playing and really work on the craft and really become good or yes.

[A]

Or no, it doesn't. Or no, it doesn't.

[G]

Me, when I hear bands like the Ramones or acdc, I think I could be on stage doing that. When I hear those guys, I think, yeah, I don't need to pick up a bass ever again.

[A]

So I'm still younger than all of the Stones.

[D]

Kenny, let me ask you this. That Mishki video playing at TNC didn't make you want to say, I want to learn piano so I can do that?

[G]

No, that made me amazed that Tom has that kind of craft in him. Oh, my God. We. We forget. Or at least I forget that he's a really good musician.

[D]

Yes.

[G]

And when I hear really, really good, you know, any jazz song, Steely Dan, anything like that, I. I think, no, I should never pick up the base again.

[B]

And full disclosure, when I recorded that video of Tommy last Friday, he approached that Kenny with the same manner in which I showed up at the party with my baseball cap on. Meaning let's see if we can get everybody here going.

[A]

I had you take it off pretty quickly.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes, you did.

[H]

I played briefly in a band with Tommy, and I can tell you he's a really, really good piano player. And the best thing about Tommy, from Chris, what Chris said about this was if we would say, hey, let's just do something in C, and we'd start and just jam for a while. That was when Tommy was at his finest.

[A]

Well, why didn't the band last? The band didn't last because drummer ended up in jail.

[H]

No. The lead guitarist, he was taken into the hospital and he had to have open heart surgery.

[A]

Well, I could name another one named Gillen Height.

[H]

What about him?

[A]

He could have been your new lead player.

[H]

Well, Dylan Height, this was. How many years ago was that Dylan?

[A]

Dylan was probably 11 years old.

[H]

12 years. This wouldn't. I'm Talking about me?

[A]

Yeah. All right.

[D]

Hey, what's. Coming up with the ride? Did you ever play with Michael Lunan?

[H]

Only on Tommy Show.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[H]

On Tommy Show.

[G]

Very fun.

[A]

You remember that time you played with the Beatles? Great music, John.

[G]

How do you. Is that really satisfying, what you just did? And when those guys show up at the fair, I gotta think, that's really, really satisf.

[H]

It's really satisfying, and it's also very intimidating. For instance, some of the songs I didn't know the changes of. So basically, like I told you, on that one song, I was playing four notes over and over, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with that, because I wasn't. Wasn't playing in a different key or whatever. But, yes, when I know a song and I play with them, it's, you know, it's.

[A]

There's nothing like it.

[H]

It's wonderful.

[G]

Pat showed signs of being a normal human when? Before the show. Normal human, huh?

[A]

He is a normal human.

[G]

So far beyond.

[A]

But he doesn't act like it.

[G]

No, but I mean, with his guitar skills. Stay with me, Joe.

[A]

Try.

[G]

Don't try to knock me down at every turn.

[E]

Okay?

[D]

Try to keep up. Is that what he's doing?

[G]

He showed signs of being normal when you guys decided that a song was not in the key that he knew it in.

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

And he kind of frustratingly taught himself. What song was it and what key was it?

[H]

There were two. At least two we did that with today, including when we did the Christmas song. You know, chestnuts roasting on an open fire. He looked at me and he went.

[A]

They do it in a.

[H]

He went like that. And then at the end of the day, he said, have you ever played that in a. I said, never.

[G]

Chuck Berry was known for that. Right on stage, changing the key of the song as they were playing it without telling anything.

[A]

Chuck Berry. Didn't he get in a fight with Keith Richards because of that?

[H]

Hail, hail, rock and roll. In that film, they're playing something and he walks up to Keith and whispers in his ear he wanted to change the key. And Keith Richards said, ain't happening. And then they started arguing. And then, you know. Yes.

[G]

So John or Joe. I saw them. That iteration at the Chicago Blues Fest. Chuck Berry with Keith Richards.

[A]

Oh, boy. Yeah, that was cool.

[D]

Did Marvin play with him or no?

[G]

Matthew, you always got to bring the discussion down to your level, don't you?

[B]

As long as he went there. Johnny. I'm just kind of. I'm kind of sad that we weren't able to find Christmas song that was able to utilize the spoon.

[A]

Did you post anything yet so GLers can find the concert information?

[B]

I. I will once while we're still doing the show.

[A]

Well, we're on day 47.

[B]

Gabe did put it on social media.

[A]

All right, thank you Gabe. We're on day 47 of our being at sea with the lions and now we're.

[D]

Would you like some accompaniment?

[A]

As you know we're cruising south on the Coral Sea. We're off the east coast of Queensland. Okay, Australia. This is day 47. It's the cruise is starting to wind down. Out of control. What happened? We're out of control.

[H]

What happened?

[D]

We're going around Queensland.

[H]

You can't hear everybody just talking while you're talking.

[A]

I do and I guess you know, I just ignore it.

[D]

How did you arrive today?

[B]

You know what you're getting? You're getting a warm up act for what's going to be next Friday A very festive Friday with Matthew.

[D]

That's a pre birthday Friday.

[H]

That's right.

[G]

You've been warned.

[A]

Can I tell you something? I the women and children Can I. May I say something?

[D]

I wish you would. I wish you would. I just broke my spoon.

[A]

In 47 days of cruising the Lymans have had 12 time changes. Time change of one hour backward. Time changes of one hour forward. Time changes of 30 minutes forward. The 30 minutes time change is due to Darwin, Australia time zone being 30 minutes different from surrounding time zones. There's a 16 hour time difference between Minnesota and Queensland, Australia. I'll do the math said Tom. When it's 1:30pm Friday in Minnesota it's 5:30am Saturday in Queensland, Australia. Really?

[D]

That's amazing.

[B]

When you have that many time changes do you even bother I mean you're at sea and you're. It's not like you're going anywhere.

[D]

I don't know I'm just hanging out.

[A]

Yeah on this day I see why.

[B]

You like I'm not allowed to look at him anymore. I get in trouble Joe.

[A]

Today is the second well we only want got one lousy thing today. What's this day December 12, 1928 the newly finished faux tower already oh what's he going for already this damn thing worked already at oh I had this turned around yeah already an icon icon Already an icon of architecture in Minnesota was strong with lights and lit up like a Christmas tree. It was Minneapolis's tallest building for nearly 50 years until I believe the IDS center eclipse it on this day in Minnesota sports disappointment history.

[B]

What Would we lose to?

[A]

Well, shades of yesterday.

[B]

It was on this day, on December.

[A]

12Th in 2010, the Metrodome Roof collapsed for the final time.

[B]

How many times did you guys watch the video yesterday?

[A]

I didn't see it.

[D]

I forgot to look.

[A]

I forgot to look. I saw many, many times the roof came down. And a number of times I had to go cover it. And I began to resent the dump.

[B]

If memory serves me, you were not a fan of that facility.

[A]

Just a dump. It was wrong from day one. It was horrible. It should never have been built.

[G]

It was so apropos that the seams came together in the middle to form a swastika.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[G]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, God help us. That's terrible.

[B]

You know, that was one of my favorite memories when we stole had the rights to the twins and they were nice enough to have us come out for twins fest. And Joe opens the show looking around going, look at this dump.

[A]

It was just a dreadful. And to show you how bad Seattle was.

[D]

The King Dome.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

The Metrodome was Yankee Stadium 10 way park compared to the Kingdome in Seattle.

[B]

Because the roof was concrete.

[A]

Correct. Everything was concrete. You might as well have been in some sort of of tomb.

[D]

Why did they do that just because of rain?

[A]

I don't know. I don't know. But they got wise just like we got wise. Everybody gets wise sooner or later. Get her done, Matthew.

[G]

Matthew.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You're gonna have a meeting.

[B]

Not us, you.

[A]

Now, aren't we having one today?

[G]

Yeah, we are.

[A]

Yeah. Well, let's go then. We'll have our meeting.

[B]

We're waiting for Rick to be done.

[A]

That will not be a town council meeting. Yeah.

[B]

He's fake smoking with his drumstick.

[H]

He has been for about three minutes now.

[D]

Yeah. Since you doing the day thing. Doing the day thing. You're sitting there. December.

[G]

Have a good weekend, G. Thank you.

[B]

You got your money's worth today. If you were a member of the Garage Logic town council.

[G]

Yeah.

[B]

You should sign up on an annual basis for the Garage Logic Town council. You can also see us live on YouTube each and every single day, starting right around noon.

[A]

To me, it looked like Devil's Tower. Could have been a tree.

[D]

That could have been park Y.

[B]

You can also see full segments, video shorts, behind the scenes footage. Just search garage logic on YouTube along with all of our social media channels, which includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And also sign up for the Daily Logician. That's an email that comes right to your inbox each and every single day. And it includes the most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more and sign up [e-mail] haven't looked at him in five minutes. You can't be mad at me.

[I]

He's still mad at me.

[B]

Why is it my fault?

[D]

Let's do.