12/22 Mayors of 98 cities in MN question the competence of Gov Tim Walz

Summary

Garage Logic – December 22, 2025 “Mayors of 98 Cities in MN Question Gov. Tim Walz’s Competence”

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Overview

This episode focuses on growing unrest among Minnesota’s local government leaders, as 98 mayors from cities across the state pen a sharply worded letter questioning Governor Tim Walz’s fiscal management and the mounting burden of state policies on communities. Host Joe Soucheray and the crew dive deep into this unprecedented pushback, state financial issues, fraud in public programs, and broader cultural and political concerns, all with Garage Logic’s signature blend of candor, humor, and common sense. The episode broadens into a discussion about immigrant communities, especially Somalis in Minnesota, and what the future holds for the state’s political climate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. 98 Mayors’ Letter to Governor Walz

[04:23 – 11:05]

• Joe Soucheray reads and analyzes the mayors’ open letter:

  • Mayors from 98 Minnesota cities, both large and small, express “deep concern and growing frustration about the fiscal direction of the state and its increasing impact on our cities and the residents we serve.” (Joe Soucheray reading, [04:42])
  • Complaints focus on “fraud, unchecked spending, and inconsistent fiscal management in St. Paul,” which have led to potential property tax hikes as high as 8.7% for cities and 8.1% for counties in 2026.
  • Mayors note the $18 billion surplus “disappeared in a single biennium,” with a looming $2.9-$3 billion deficit projected.
  • Local leaders warn the state’s fiscal mismanagement is forcing them to choose between raising taxes or cutting essential services like police and fire.

• Notable quotes:

  • “These 98 mayors merely corroborate what we've been dealing with here in an urban area.” (Joe Soucheray, [10:45])
  • “Minnesotans watched a historic $18 billion surplus disappear in a single biennium...” (Letter, [05:05])

• The hosts express concern that mainstream media won’t cover the mayors’ letter adequately:

  • “The problem is nobody's going to see this unless you listen or watch Garage Logic or Alpha News...” (Kenny Olson, [11:05])
  • “You're not going to hear about it in the Minnesota Star Tribune which is quite clearly positioned itself as a Walz apologist.” (Joe Soucheray, [11:17])

2. Should Walz Be Recalled? The Process and Obstacles

[12:00 – 15:43]

• Joe explains the recall process for a Minnesota governor:
  • Grounds include: malfeasance, nonfeasance, or conviction of a serious crime ([11:58]; [13:10]).
  • Soucheray argues Walz is guilty of “nonfeasance...repeatedly and intentionally failing to perform required duties” (Joe Soucheray, [13:25]), specifically regarding the failure to stop fraud in state agencies.
  • Petition to recall requires signatures from at least 25% of voters from the last gubernatorial election (about 600,000–1 million signatures needed, [15:23]).
  • Hosts are pessimistic about the likelihood of successfully recalling Walz due to legal and political barriers.
• Quote:
  • “He must be gone. Put him in a witness protection program. Put him in jail. Do something. He's got to be gone. He has ruined this state.” (Joe Soucheray, [10:51])

3. State Fraud and the Role of the Somali Community

[16:45 – 34:38]

• Ongoing debate over the scale and handling of fraud in state benefit programs:

  • Disagreement between federal and state officials on the amount lost to fraud, with estimates ranging from “tens of millions” to “$9 billion.”
  • Allegations of cover-ups and lack of accountability, with political considerations (especially regarding the Somali community’s role and their perceived political influence) cited as reasons for state reluctance to act.

• Segment on Somali Community, Cultural Codes, and Integration:

  • Host Joe Soucheray introduces a video clip from noted psychologist and author Gad Saad discussing “coalitional psychology” and why certain immigrant groups, notably Somalis, maintain stronger loyalty to their ethnic or national identity than to the US ([28:12]).
  • Saad points out incidents of Somali men making provocative statements or engaging in disrespectful behavior, contrasting this with other immigrant groups, and referring to a quote about Arab tribal loyalty and the “us vs. them” mentality ([30:07]).
  • Soucheray and the crew debate the implications:
    • Are Somalis seeking to “take over” US institutions, or is this an overblown concern?
    • “To say that Minnesota is now run by Somalis is not true... Do Somalis intend to take over the United States? They've made great inroads in Michigan. They're making great inroads in Minneapolis. But I can't in good faith say that I believe Somalis are here to control the country.” (Joe Soucheray, [35:50])
  • Kenny Olson and others maintain the bigger concern is political and cultural—how state policy enables exploitation of public resources.
  • “Western civilization...will commit suicide before they ever demand Somalis to leave the country.” (Joe Soucheray, [37:27])
  • Discourse acknowledges not all in the Somali or Muslim communities fit the same mold—some are well integrated and “love being here.” ([37:55])

• Memorable Gad Saad quote ([32:08]):

  • “So if you allow hundreds of thousands of people to come into a society...where all of your identity markers are superseded by your loyalty to the unifying flag...that is simply not true of most Somalis...cultures have certain internalized codes...Good luck, United States. You've had a nice run.” (Gad Saad, [32:08])

4. State Response to Fraud: Inspector General Council

[49:09 – 51:10]

• John Haidt reports on Walz’s creation of a new “Office of Inspector General Coordinating Council” to fight fraud ([49:27]).

  • Reaction is skeptical and cynical.
  • Joe: “Yeah, you're too late, Walz. Five, six years too late to help...” ([50:08])
  • Several hundred million dollars in fraud already uncovered; new audits and payment freezes underway.

• Listener email underscores the fraudulent proliferation of autism therapy centers, further highlighting lack of oversight ([51:10]).

5. Media, Partisan Spin, and the Trump Factor in Minnesota Politics

[16:02], [40:33-43:09]

• Frustration with media coverage:
  • Star Tribune accused of obfuscating Walz’s role and minimizing fraud figures.
  • Perceived “gaslighting” by Walz, blaming Trump for state-level fraud problems that escalated under Biden’s term.
• Discussion on the political conundrum for Republicans:
  • “A Republican candidate for governor in this state must detach himself or herself from Trump or they don't stand a chance.” (Joe Soucheray, [41:13])
  • The question of whether Trump’s support helps or hurts conservative candidates in the metro vs. outstate MN ([43:09]).

6. National Notes and Tangents

• Epstein files:

  • Release of redacted files, continued speculation about cover-ups ([60:05-62:14]).

• Trump’s controversial moves:

  • Appointment of Louisiana governor as envoy to Greenland, sparking Danish anger ([62:44]).
  • Efforts to influence Smithsonian narratives.

• Sports and pop culture:

  • Vikings’ loss and other Minnesota sports disappointments ([79:23])
  • Musings about sports betting markets with Money Talk’s Josh Arnold ([83:11-88:59]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Walz is a devastating force in Minnesota. He must be gone...He’s got to be gone. He has ruined this state. These 98 mayors merely corroborate what we’ve been dealing with…”
  Joe Soucheray, [10:51]

• On recall process:
  “...Walz is guilty of nonfeasance. So what do we have to do? At least 25 eligible voters must file an application...”
  Joe Soucheray, [13:25]

• Gad Saad on tribalism:
  “Cultures have certain internalized codes...This very powerful quote perfectly and fully captures the psychology of Somali culture. Good luck, United States. You’ve had a nice run.”
  Gad Saad, [32:08]

• On state policy enabling fraud:
  “Much of the money that’s been stolen comes from the feds. But that's still our money. We're taxed too heavily… that couldn't be done if you weren't taxed so heavily.”
  Joe Soucheray, [52:53]

• On media bias:
  “You're not going to hear about it in the Minnesota Star Tribune which is quite clearly positioned itself as a Walz apologist.”
  Joe Soucheray, [11:17]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [04:23] — Reading and commentary on the 98 mayors’ letter
• [11:05] — Media silence and skepticism
• [12:00] — How to recall the Governor
• [15:23] — Petition thresholds and recall obstacles
• [28:12] — Gad Saad clip and discussion of Somali cultural psychology
• [34:14] — What can or should be done about nonprofit and fraud issues
• [37:27] — “Western civilization...will commit suicide before they ever demand Somalis to leave the country.”
• [40:33] — Trump, Walz, and the political challenge for Republicans in MN
• [49:09] — Walz’s Office of Inspector General Coordinating Council and skepticism
• [51:10] — Listener’s findings on fraudulent autism centers, more on fraud
• [60:05] — Epstein files/release discussion
• [83:11] — Josh Arnold’s Money Talk and predictions markets

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Tone & Style

Garage Logic’s style is direct, skeptical, and laced with humor and local flavor. Joe Soucheray balances blunt condemnation of state leadership with wry asides, sports talk, and appreciation for local color. The crew brings diverse perspectives, but there’s clear consensus on frustration with state political and media establishments.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode: What to Know

• A highly unusual show of unity from 98 Minnesota mayors signals widespread alarm about state fiscal policy, growing deficits, and the unsustainable burden on local communities.
• The hosts argue that both fraud and political maneuvering around immigrant communities are undermining good governance.
• Frustration is focused not only on the governor but also on media entities like the Star Tribune.
• Despite calls for action—including a gubernatorial recall—there’s cynicism about the likelihood of real change in Minnesota’s deep-blue political environment.
• The episode features a provocative cultural/psychological analysis from Gad Saad on the Somali community, sparking debate on integration, loyalty, and state policy.
• Plenty of GL’s trademark banter, as well as listener contributions, news tidbits, and irreverence, keep the tone accessible and lively even when tackling uncomfortable truths.

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Summary compiled from the Garage Logic December 22, 2025 episode, focusing on its central discussions, critical insights, and memorable moments as they relate to both Minnesota’s governance and broader cultural and political dynamics.

Transcript

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now, from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology cor. Kenny Olson from the Krabby Coffee Shop, John Height in the newsroom. And of course the rookie here is your flashlight Keeper of common sense.

[Chris Reivers]

He also waves to himself every day.

[Joe Soucheray]

Merry Christmas 2025 from the lake detective. And once again he sent that beautiful and coveted card of little, little teeny trees. Well, actually, it's milfoil decorated with.

[Matthew]

Ornaments.

[Joe Soucheray]

Everybody, Everybody.

[John Hightower]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

He never fails. He always sends us a wonderful story here.

[Matthew]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Little mill foil decorated with.

[Matthew]

How does he get down there with those ornaments?

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, that's a good question. What's this? Is he on the air? Oh, no.

[Chris Reivers]

I just thought I'd play his.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh for God.

[Chris Reivers]

And trying for this Christmas car.

[Joe Soucheray]

I went to the Stephen C. Concert at the cathedral. I went to the matinee Friday. Write it on your calendar for next year if you've not attended. All it's cracked up to be. Yes, now, rook, maybe you went the previous night you went on Thursday evening. So I didn't see the kids choir because apparently the kids were in school Friday afternoon.

[Matthew]

I wouldn't say that you didn't get the entire show, but the kids choir.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really added something, which was a new wrinkle this year.

[Matthew]

Yeah, it added a neatness to it. You know, kids singing.

[Joe Soucheray]

I didn't want a long.

[Matthew]

Oh, I thought you wanted a full review.

[Joe Soucheray]

So part two, I let myself go and I thought, this is very European. The cathedral was darkened and there were a number of soft lightings on the pillars behind the altar.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

That would change colors. And I thought, what the hell? I could be in Vienna or Prague or Berlin. It just felt very European to me.

[Matthew]

I would agree.

[Joe Soucheray]

And it was just. It was very lovely. A lot of g L ers. There were a lot of g. Quite.

[Matthew]

A number on Thursday night as well.

[Joe Soucheray]

But tell your friends who aren't Galers. Galers are wise to this. Tell your friends who aren't Galers that you want to get this on your calendar for next year was very, very different. Very wonderful being handed a bulletin here, sir. Okay.

[Matthew]

This just in.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. I have a. A letter written by. How many mayors do we know? 98. 98 Mayors representing cities across the state of Minnesota.

[Chris Reivers]

Are you one of them?

[Joe Soucheray]

I am, yeah. You included.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Have written a letter to the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, dated today. Today's December 22, actually. They sent it to Minnesota state representatives, senators, and Governor Walz. As mayors representing cities of every size across the state of Minnesota, we are on the front lines of delivering essential services, maintaining public safety, and ensuring that our remain places where families and businesses can thrive. It is from this position of direct responsibility that we write to express deep concern and growing frustration about the fiscal direction of the state and its increasing impact on our cities and the residents we serve. Minnesotans watched a historic $18 billion surplus disappear in a single biennium, only to now face an updated projected $2.9 billion to $3 billion def in the 2028-2029 biennium. As mayors, we see firsthand how these decisions ripple outward. Fraud, unchecked spending, and inconsistent fiscal management in St. Paul have trickled down to our cities, reducing our capacity to plan responsibly, maintain infrastructure, hire and retain employees, and sustain core services without overburdening local taxpayers. The recent Minnesota Chamber of Commerce report shows our state slipping in national economic rankings, and these statewide indicators match what we observe at the local level. Between 2019 and 2024, Minnesota ranked 234th in the country's national economic rankings. I don't know how you ranked 234. There's only 50 states, right. But I don't doubt a word these young. Well, young, old, male, female. How many mayors sign this, Gabe? 98. Oh my God. The letter continues. I'm sorry. The letter continues. On top of these economic realities, many Minnesota cities are confronting significant property tax levy pressures. Preliminary statewide data on average for 2026 shows cities may ra levies by up to 8.7% with counties up to 8.1%. These increases are not simply local decisions. They stem directly from state policies, mandates and cost shifts that leave cities with no choice but to pass these burdens onto homeowners and businesses. As mayors, we are committed to responsible budgeting, fiscal restraint and delivering high quality local services. Yet there is a growing disconnect between state level fiscal decisions and the strain they place on the cities we lead. When the state expands programs or shifts responsibilities without stable funding, it is our residents, families, seniors, businesses and workers who ultimately bear the cost. Cities are the level of government closest to the people responding when snowplows don't arrive, when streetlights or water mains fail, when businesses need permitting help, or when seniors seek support. Every unfunded mandate, mandate or cost shift forces us into difficult choices. Raise taxes, cut services, delay infrastructure or stretch thin city staff even further. This strain now extends to the very core of community safety, our police and firefighters. They are the frontline protection for our residents. Yet rising levies and state imposed costs are making it increasingly difficult for cities to invest in the additional public safety and staff our communities generally genuinely need to feel safe. Minnesotans expect the following from their elected leaders. Responsible and transparent state budgeting A regulatory and tax environment that supports jobs and economic growth. Protection for taxpayers, especially those on fixed incomes. Stability and predictability for local governments. Long term fiscal sustainability that does not rely on one time windfalls. When these expectations go unmet, cities feel the consequences and our residents feel them the most. We extend our sincere appreciation to the legislators who continue to advocate for fiscal discipline, pro growth policies and local government stability. Your work is not unnoticed. At the same time, we must emphasize our residents deserve better than deficits, economic decline and policies that push families and businesses away. We as mayors can only support our cities for so long before the heavy hand of state mandates and financial pressure demands more than our communities can provide. Although state statute requires a balanced budget, relying on one time surplus dollars to support ongoing commitments has created structural strain, reducing our state's ability to sustain existing programs or invest in new ones in the years to come, our state owes it to the citizens to practice responsible fiscal management and to stop taxing our families, seniors and businesses out of Minnesota. We urge the legislature to course correct and to remember that every dollar you manage belongs not to the Capitol, but to the people of Minnesota. Respectfully, the undersigned mayors of Minnesota. 98. You said 98 mayors signed this. Walz is a devastating force in Minnesota. He must be gone. Put him in a witness protection program. Put him in jail. Do something. He's got to be gone. He has ruined this state. These 98 mayors merely corroborate what we've been dealing here in an urban area.

[Kenny Olson]

The problem is nobody's going to see this unless you listen or watch Garage Logic or Alpha News American Experiment. You won't. You won't see or hear of this. The Walls.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're not going to hear about it in the Minnesota Star Tribune which is quite clearly positioned itself as a Walls.

[Kenny Olson]

Apologist and Walls himself certainly isn't going to comment on this.

[Joe Soucheray]

We are in big, big trouble, people. And Walls is the reason. I have the ways Walls can be recalled. Let me find it.

[Matthew]

By whom? Normal people?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, a guy looked it up on aa. Just the technical things that must be accomplished.

[Kenny Olson]

On what?

[Chris Reivers]

On aa. What's that?

[Joe Soucheray]

AI. I'm sorry. Oh, this is how.

[Chris Reivers]

Hi, my name's Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, hi Chris R. I'm Joel. There is a legal process to recall the governor in Minnesota outlining the State Constitution Article 8, Section 6 in Statutes Chapter 211c requiring a petition with specific grounds like malfeasance, nonfeasance or a serious crime followed by a multi step review by election officials in the Supreme Court and ultimately a public recall election. If enough signatures 25% of the last election's votes are gathered. Grounds for recall. The basis for recalling a Minnesota governor must be one of the malfeasance intentionally committing an unlawful or wrongful act in performing official duties that infringes on another's rights. I would say he's guilty of that. Nonfeasance repeatedly and intentionally failed failing to perform required duties of the office. Okay. In fact I would go with nonfeasance over malfeasance. Serious crime. Conviction of a serious crime during the term of office. That's no. The recall. So there's only three reasons. Malfeasance, nonfeasance and serious crime. I say Walz is guilty of non feasance repeatedly and intentionally failing to perform required duties of the office. He is repeatedly and intentionally failed to enforce the stop get measures with his agency heads that would have stopped fraud. We've heard that from a legislator. We've heard that from people who work for the Department of Human Services. The word came down from the top. Keep the money going out the door. That's Walls. He is guilty of non feasance. So what do we have to do? At least 25 people look this up for me. There's already a petition underway. Could you guys find this? A petition to recall walls? At least 25 eligible voters must file an application with the Secretary of State including a fee and the grounds for recall. The Secretary of State sends the proposal to the Supreme Court, which appoints a special master for a public hearing to determine if the grounds are sufficient. If the court finds sufficient grounds, a new petition is issued requiring signatures from at least 25% of the voters in the last general election for that office. Signatures are submitted to election officials for verification. And believe me, they'll treat that verification far more seriously than they treat any voter recall election. If enough valid signatures are verified, the governor orders a recall election where voters decide whether to remove the official. There you have it. I see.

[Kenny Olson]

Governor gone sets a recall election. Yeah, they've already tried to recall him a few times during COVID Yeah, you.

[Matthew]

Can see that when you do a Google search. You're right, Kenny.

[Kenny Olson]

Minnesota Supreme Court, they've shut that down. It's not going to happen.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, the other thing I was looking up was how many people voted in the last general election for governor. And it's, you know, around two and a half million people.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, what's 25% of that?

[Chris Reivers]

What I was going to get at is. And what is 25% of that is a million, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I'll sign it. There's one.

[Chris Reivers]

But are you going to get a million people?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know, Chris. I don't know. I'm just telling you that's the process, that he should not be in office.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, nobody disagrees with that. We're just telling you this. This ain't going to happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm afraid you're right. I'm afraid that that's a long shot. But I do know there's a petition now and sorry, before you go, and.

[Chris Reivers]

You know what you said about him last week. How would he spin this? He would. Gaslight. See, I'm being attacked by these Trump wannabe voters here in Minnesota. The MAGA Republican voters are coming after me.

[Joe Soucheray]

He continues to play his non feasance off Trump which has. Trump was not in office. Biden was in office when the fraud started and really picked up momentum. That was the Biden administration. It had nothing to do with Trump, nor does it have anything to do with Trump. Now Walz is gaslighting when he says this is Trump's fault. It's not the start. Tribune should be ashamed of itself. Today they have another covering piece for Walls on the front page which suggests that, well, yes, some money's been stolen, but not nearly what the federal prosecutors allege. Well, you're a prostitute. You're just arguing about the price. At this point.

[Kenny Olson]

The headline and Walls sensationalism, not Proof, is behind the 9 billion prosecutors.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can address that with our friend Bill Glahn from the American Experiment. What is proof? What is evidence? The debate over how much fraud has been committed against Minnesota social welfare programs has now gone national. Joe Thompson, the first assistant U.S. attorney and lead prosecutor of the fraud case, appeared on the Fox News Laura Ingraham show last night. You know why it's always Fox? Because CNN probably doesn't want Joe Thompson on, right? This reflects poorly against Democrats. Gee whiz, that's getting more difficult, isn't it?

[Matthew]

Well, with that recycled paper, it kind of tends to stick together as opposed.

[Joe Soucheray]

To that virgin stuff, the Star Tremone reported. John Connolly, deputy Commissioner and state Medicaid director at the Department of Human Services, said his agency seen evidence of tens of millions of dollars in fraud, not 9 billion. Okay, tens of millions of dollars in fraud refers to the dollar amounts of the fraud against DHS run Medicaid programs that Thompson is already prosecuting. Apparently federal grand jury indictments are the only evidence that the state DHS accepts as indicative of any wrongdoing. Shouldn't the information be flowing in the other direction? A damning statement from state officials? Again, in an ideal world, the information should be flowing in the opposite direction. It seems premature not to include an identification of the individuals responsible in the methodology by which they allegedly committed the crime. Tip off the suspects so they can flee the country if the years long fraud scandal. We've already seen instances where state officials have tipped off fraudsters regarding the ongoing investigations. But beyond that, a spokesperson for the U.S. attorney's office said it cannot legally share evidence obtained pursuant to a grand jury subpoena. So we may be left with the with a he said he said situation. On one side we have a Stanford educated career prosecutor with an impressive record of obtaining convictions inside the courtroom and out on the other we have Tim Walsh. Thompson makes his living proving complex criminal cases beyond a reasonable doubt. Over the years, Walsh has blamed the Minnesota fraud cases ultimately and concurrently on a county judge, President Trump, fictional bureaucrats, former state bureaucrats and the state's AAA credit rating. On a related note, I, Bill Glahn, came across this headline from the Washington Examine internal Minnesota Attorney general memo settles debate on Somali fraud. The examiner reported Senator John Kennedy, Republican Louisiana, may have provided the answer. In remarks delivered earlier this month that have only recently come to the media's attention, the Senator is quoted. Kennedy read a passage from an internal memo written by a fraud investigator within the Minnesota Attorney General's office, a document that gave the game away. There is a perception that forcefully tackling this issue would cause political backlash from the Somali community, which is a core voting bloc for Democrats. Here's what I fear is happening, and it shouldn't happen. We're seeing the third rail in a desperate attrition. We're seeing it with the Epstein files. And now you're seeing it with fraud in Minnesota. The third rail is doing everything it can to protect its own. Yep, the obfuscation and the gaslighting are to protect their own. You're seeing it with the. With the Epstein files. The hell with the public. These people don't care about us whether they're right or left. They don't care about us. They're protecting their own nest, whether it's Epstein or this. The trouble is the Walls sins are going to leave this state devastated. The Epstein sins are going to leave some individuals devastated. But the walls. The walls non feasance is ruining this state. And the third rail has jumped into action to protect Walls and all of the other cohorts involved in this, including the Attorney General, who should also be gone.

[Chris Reivers]

And nearly was in the last election.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Matthew]

Let's go.

[Joe Soucheray]

You got ATVs with 50 inch plows. On sale for 58, 99 plus. That qualifies you for the free 16 inch E bike, Yamaha generators in stock Polestar and 1099 for the electric start. I don't know what about the bike on that one? At that point, what are you worried about? You're there. Have fun. They have some used stuff too. But listen, if you've not been to Ecofund, this is a marvelous Christmas sale. It really is. Ecofundmotorsports.com Check out that website. Also, there's a store in Burnsville, Ecofund Motorsports, on the service road of life right off County Road 42 and in Forest Lake, Columbus, right off the Interstate 35 on Highway 97 just west. Two roundabouts, three roundabouts, bing bang boom, you're there. Great big new building. You'll have fun. Ecofunmotorsports.com.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

There's a fellow I've read from time to time named Gad Saad S Double A D. He was born in Beirut, Lebanon and then his family fled to Montreal, Quebec in 1975. He was born in 1964. So what is he, 61, is that right?

[Matthew]

If he was born in when correct.

[Joe Soucheray]

1964 to both Lebanese Jewish and Syrian Jewish parents. His family fled in October 1975 to Montreal to escape the Lebanese civil war. He obtained degrees in mathematics and computer Science and an MBA in Marketing from McGill University and an Ms. In Management and a PhD in Marketing from Cornell. He currently is teaching at the John Mason School of Business at Concordia College. He's an author. He has a YouTube television location with more than 40.4 million views. I just see him occasionally on social media and we want to play this. I was alerted to it. We also have we have reached out to Mr. Saad, is that correct? And I would love to have him on the show if he ever gets our he's against he's one of the guys against wokeness because he finds it so disconcerting as it applies to cultural life. And he this happens to be Gad's sod. This was posted when December 6th. December 6th and I don't know if he's even doing this in relation to the fraud Minnesota is experiencing.

[Chris Reivers]

He might as well have.

[Joe Soucheray]

He might as well have. I don't know what compelled this particular take from Mr. Saad, but it's it's to me, fascinating.

[Gad Saad]

It's Saturday evening. I was not planning on doing a clip this late into the night, but the defense of truth shall never rest. So some of you have been sharing clips of Somali men either saying or doing all sorts of outrageous things. So there's One clip that's going around where a Somali guy is standing on top of the, you know, the. The Hollywood stars passageway, and he's standing over the one of Donald Trump, and he's literally urinating. Urinating on it. Now, you don't see Vietnamese immigrants or Haitian immigrants or Japanese immigrants or Armenian immigrants doing that. Why is that? Right? There are endless immigrants that come to the United States, and yet they don't seem to. To engage in these types of behaviors. You. You're now seeing Somali guys saying, you know, we're sorry that Donald Trump won't be alive when we have taken over the United States. You don't. You don't hear of Vietnamese people saying that. You don't hear Armenians saying that. Why is that? Cultures have certain internalized codes. I've said this over and over again. Somali society is driven by a very strict code of us versus them. Them. You are Somali first. That's why a lot of people say even if they're now in the United States, their first allegiance is to Somalia. Ilhan Omar has said it, right? So first, I am Somali. I'm also first Muslim, right? So I don't pledge allegiance to the United States because my coalitional calculus does not permit me to do that.

[Joe Soucheray]

That.

[Gad Saad]

So if you allow hundreds of thousands of people to come into a society that was founded on the principle that, of course, we welcome immigrants, but all of your identity markers are superseded by your loyalty to the unifying flag of the United States. That is simply not true of most Somalis. By the way, they'll say it right? You can see them in endless clips where they say, no, no, no, no, no. I am. I first am a Somali. I first care about Somalia, and so on and so forth. So let me read you a quote from page 208 of my 2011 book, the Consuming Instinct. I truly wish that more people would rediscover this book because it's a book that not only applies evolutionary psychology to understand our consummatory nature, but it really demonstrates the power of evolutionary theory in explaining all sorts of important human phenomena. So on page 208, where I'm talking at that point about tribalism and coalitional psychology, I cite a book called the Hajj by Leon Uris. And so here I'm gonna. This is the quote. So before I was nine, I had learned the basics of canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother, me and my brother against our father, my family against my cousins and the clan, the clan against the tribe, and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel. This very powerful quote perfectly and fully captures the psychology of Somali culture. Good luck, United States. You've had a nice run.

[Chris Reivers]

Boom, you nailed it.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't like that sign off.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's a tough one, isn't it? Yeah, the. The fact of a guy urinating on a Trump sign. I don't. Right now, unfortunately, that wouldn't be limited to Somali.

[Chris Reivers]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's a lot of people pissing on a Trump sign. So let's clear that up.

[John Hightower]

Up.

[Joe Soucheray]

And secondly, I forgot to mention he is a practicing psychologist. I have heard Ilhan Omar, she has literally said she's there for the. For Somalia.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

During the election, there was bits and pieces of information we could gather that she was angry that certain clans didn't vote for Omar Fateh. So I played this today because I happen to think this fellow is correct. Beyond that, he echoes many things that have become evident to us. And I'm sure there are Somalis who know this, and maybe they've broken free of that psychology or what he calls the coalition of their culture. The. What was the term he used? The. The calculus. The coal. The calculus of the coalition, which means I'm against my brother, me and my brother against my dad, me and my family are against the. Our cousins. But then we're all against the. We're all against the clan, and then we're all against the tribe, and we're all against. In the infidel. I. I think we're dealing with something that obviously Minnesota. Minnesota, of all places, is not dealt with, and. And we're seeing the ramifications of it. I don't know how this would play into. It'd be interesting. I hope we hear from Saad. I. I'd love to know how he can tie this to fraud, because I'm sure he could.

[Kenny Olson]

So if what he says is true, where do we go from here?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, what I would do, and I would apply this to everybody, not just Somalis, if I was the king of Minnesota. I'm tightening up the whole nonprofit game. You're going to have to pass some rigid, rigid tests to get any money from the Minnesota taxpayer to pretend you're taking care of autism. If you fail my test, you're not getting the money.

[Kenny Olson]

That's just a hangnail, though, Joe, in their overall scheme and plan of taking over the United States.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I'm trying to prevent us from sounding absurd.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, he pretty much said it.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know, I know. I'm trying to figure out how to say it.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, it's tough. I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because right now, physically, it couldn't happen. The numbers aren't there.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[Chris Reivers]

But look at this state on itself. We have seen billions and billions of dollars, and it's basically one group that's doing all of this.

[Kenny Olson]

So what are we gonna do then, Chris?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, like Joe said, it's gotta start from the top down. And the more the problem is, you asked off the show earlier, why are all of these people coming here and picking here to live? Well, number one, one, there's a great system in place for them to get started, which is great. But number two, it's just going to continue to grow because they're going to continue to support the people that have put these programs in place in the first place.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why did Omar Fateh leave Virginia and come to Minneapolis? Well, there were family members here, and he could see election possibilities for himself that he was not achieving in Virginia. He lost a school board race, for God's sakes. So he came here. We haven't heard the last of him, by the way, so. But the numbers. To say that Minnesota is now run by Somalis is not true. To say that the country is not run by Somalis is not true. What we need to discern is, do Somalis intend to take over the United States? They've made great inroads in Michigan. They're making great inroads in Minneapolis. But I can't in good faith say that I believe Somalis are here to control the country.

[Chris Reivers]

What do you think the mission is of the newly elected mayor of New York City?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he's not Somali.

[Chris Reivers]

I know, but it's that same ideology, is my point.

[Kenny Olson]

It's the Muslim Islam ideology.

[Joe Soucheray]

We're infidels. Yeah. We're not believers.

[Kenny Olson]

So we're just talking around. We're dancing around the outside of the fire ring here. We're not actually getting anything done.

[Joe Soucheray]

Step into it, please.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, somebody's got to come forward and say, you got to go. And that's not what this country is. That will not happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

It won't happen.

[Kenny Olson]

So we have to find a better way of. I don't know. I can't pick the right words either. I was still controlling the situation. I don't think the. That's probably the right words.

[Joe Soucheray]

Western civilization as expressed in America. We've been calling it the mystery for many years. We now know more about it. Western civilization, I believe, will commit suicide before they ever demand Somalis to leave the country. Right.

[Kenny Olson]

And I would say, again, it's not just Somalis.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I don't know of another immigrant group that wants to enforce their own way of life.

[Kenny Olson]

And. And to back that up, I, when I was living there, knew a ton of Muslims. They were all very chill and loved being here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Chris Reivers]

Society working.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't know a lot living up here, obviously.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, do we believe Saad's closing remarks? Good luck, United States. You've had a great run. Well, I sees it happen.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. And it is happening all over Europe.

[Joe Soucheray]

It certainly appears to be happening in London.

[Matthew]

Do we just have Holland? Do we have a bad batch of Somalis?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, you weren't paying attention. It's not a bad batch of Somalis. It's the cultural code of Somalism to.

[Matthew]

They're Somalis first.

[Joe Soucheray]

Their loyalty is to eat to them, their family, their tribe, their clan. Their loyalty is to oppose the infidel. And by the way, all of the euphorians who embrace the Somalis, their treatment of women is not something that the west would adhere to. And yet we will commit suicide before we say anything.

[Kenny Olson]

And they, too much to their dismay. Excuse me, are infidels.

[Matthew]

I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Other Somalis. You mean.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I mean the white liberal guilty feeling. Yeah, you're an infidel. Fidel, too.

[Matthew]

I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Some fun thoughts to send you into Christmas, aren't they? Hey, Happy, maybe you could play God sitting around the tree. Play God. Sad's remarks sitting around the tree. And while you're opening presents instead of.

[Chris Reivers]

The night before Christmas.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. The night before the Somali takeover, not a creature was stirring, not even a Somali. It was too cold out.

[Chris Reivers]

I think we better stop.

[Matthew]

Was there a Somali polka?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, there is.

[Matthew]

No, there don't really have Somali polka.

[Kenny Olson]

I just know that Trump has said some things and doing some things right now in regards to the Somalis that is getting a lot of pushback across the United States.

[Joe Soucheray]

Trump is not being helpful. No, because. Because Walls is just smart enough to play Walls against the people of Minnesota.

[Kenny Olson]

To play Trump against the people.

[Joe Soucheray]

Play. I'm sorry, play Trump against the people of Minnesota when he knows perfectly well the fraud under his watch has nothing to do with Trump. Nothing.

[Kenny Olson]

I mean, even in this article that the Star Tribune published today about Walls pushing back against the total, you know, is it a billion? Is it a million? Is it 8 billion? He said that the federal prosecutors orders are coming from Washington, meaning Trump.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't believe that. Right.

[Kenny Olson]

Nobody does. Because all of this started under Biden.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you watch the Star Tribune. If they haven't already will play up the stories of Trump suggesting Mike Lindell would be the best governor of Minnesota because the Star Tribune will know perfectly well that will not play with Minnesotans.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

That will not work. A Republican candidate for governor in this state must detach himself or herself from Trump or they don't stand a chance.

[Chris Reivers]

Remember when Walz announced he was going to run again and he said, I'm going up against a bunch of Trump wannabes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. And that's walls. Just smart enough to use that and get away with it in this state. I don't know where else he could get away with it. Maybe Illinois, California, maybe Oregon. Maybe California. He wouldn't get away with it in Flor. He wouldn't get away with it in Texas. He wouldn't get away with it in Tennessee. Here's the problem on and on and.

[Kenny Olson]

On the media in this state. The first thing they're going to ask every single one of these candidates for governor. Governor is about Trump and his endorsement and his support.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right?

[Kenny Olson]

It does. And they're going to make that the lead of whatever article they write.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, will they make it the lead if the candidate says, I absolutely want nothing to do with Trump. We have bigger problems in Minnesota that have nothing to do with Trump. I believe in preserving this state for the rest. President's here. We need to clean up our act.

[Kenny Olson]

That's hurtful. Yeah, it will. And it'll hurt that candidate.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, it won't.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, it will, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

You assign, you attach yourself to Trump in this state, you're doomed.

[Kenny Olson]

Not out here, you're not. Well, you don't. Well, go ahead.

[Joe Soucheray]

In the metro where most of the voters are.

[Kenny Olson]

The candidate has to ignore the question. The candidate has to be ambivalent. The candidate has to say, I don't seek, but I don't care. I don't mind if he endorses me, but I'm not seeking that endorsement. They have to. The candidate has to play a game of chess with the reporters asking this. And they're going to ask it again and again and again.

[Joe Soucheray]

Trump's approval ratings have fallen to 35% nationally.

[Kenny Olson]

Look, I'm not going to argue with you.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm just a fact.

[Chris Reivers]

You're wrong.

[Kenny Olson]

Travel outside of the metro.

[Joe Soucheray]

I have, believe it or not, I'm very aware of.

[Kenny Olson]

There's homemade signs everywhere.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. I don't think Trump made any fans sticking his name on the Kennedy Center. Well, anyway, Trump does a lot of things that don't make him any fans. He does a lot of things that make him some fans.

[Matthew]

SNL had a pretty good bid on.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't watch anymore. It's the same opening every week.

[Matthew]

But he was going to rename everything.

[Joe Soucheray]

And if you didn't watch the Green Bay Chicago game that went into overtime. I have no time for you. Seriously, I have no time for you.

[Matthew]

You know that's Saturday Night Live.

[Kenny Olson]

Is watch any NFL ever.

[Matthew]

I saw the end of the game.

[Joe Soucheray]

You didn't see overtime.

[Matthew]

I bet I did too.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hotter than average.

[Matthew]

Moore caught the long pass.

[Joe Soucheray]

When did you see a replay? No, you saw it live.

[Matthew]

I swear to you on.

[Joe Soucheray]

I believe you.

[Matthew]

I really did.

[Joe Soucheray]

Don't start swearing on things, okay?

[Kenny Olson]

That was me.

[Chris Reivers]

I couldn't watch it because Caleb Williams paints his fingernails.

[John Hightower]

You're such a door, Chris.

[Kenny Olson]

And am I the only one not taking the NFL pill every day?

[Joe Soucheray]

Hey, I'm desperate for good games because that Vikings game yesterday was the poorest game ever played in the history history of the national football on the phone on Monday night.

[Matthew]

I can't wait for the recap on sports talk. It's going to be if you want.

[Kenny Olson]

To talk about a real sport. Talk about how the Wild were so dog ass tired that they couldn't even.

[Joe Soucheray]

Scale and Colorado was fresh. I have a new theory about Colorado too. I bet they love playing other places because they don't have to work at breathing so hard as they do at 5,200ft.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, the wild, they were visibly exhausted yesterday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Remember what lost him the conference finals in 2003 was all the travel.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Wasn't yesterday was the third game in a row from them. Didn't they play Fridays and Saturday?

[Joe Soucheray]

Did not play Friday. They did play Saturday.

[Matthew]

Sunday.

[Joe Soucheray]

They played Saturday. Sunday. They played Thursday. Saturday, Sunday.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, you are really confrontational. You want to fight, go where?

[Joe Soucheray]

What is confrontational about a fact?

[Kenny Olson]

You're fair. Very.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hey, here we go.

[Kenny Olson]

Very wound up rail before we went on the line.

[Chris Reivers]

What you got over there?

[Matthew]

He's worried about my birthday tomorrow.

[John Hightower]

That's right.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not worried about it. But if you need it, you know what I present for you?

[Josh Arnold]

Don't watch the NFL. I'm kicking your ass. I hate.

[Matthew]

I know deep down he believed me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Kenny.

[Matthew]

I know as soon as I said it he believed.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I believe. Leave you. I know. You know what I would get you for your birthday if you needed one? Noisy door Tune up special. Do you need one? Do you need one?

[Matthew]

Yes, I do.

[Kenny Olson]

That was the song.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh yeah.

[Matthew]

Tell them to come over.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, you don't need one.

[Matthew]

Oh, it's working.

[Chris Reivers]

If it's on the mayor's dime. If it's on the mayor's dime, no.

[Kenny Olson]

Matter what he's you say, he's gonna fight you, Matthew.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know. You don't really need one, do you?

[Matthew]

I love you, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll get you.

[Matthew]

No, you don't. You don't love me. You don't love me.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

Hey now.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hightower]

What spot are you?

[Matthew]

She went to highland park high school.

[Kenny Olson]

It's the end of the world as we know it.

[Joe Soucheray]

And he feels fine.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John Haidt.

[John Hightower]

Thank you Joe and this news brought to you by the aforementioned North American Banking Company Minnesota Leaders More fraud news by the way, shared more about the new committee tasked with cutting fraud out of state programs. This morning Governor Walz created the Office of Inspector General Coordinating Counsel.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that sounds important.

[John Hightower]

Yeah, it's the oigcc.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh yeah, yeah, the Oysters.

[John Hightower]

This is through Executive Action in September to help state agencies collaborate and share info on the fight to stop fraud. Per his order, Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension Superintendent Drew Evans will chair the council, which will also include reps from each state agency's Inspector General's office and members of the BCA's Financial Crimes Unit, Minnesota Management and Budgets Accountability Team, and the Minnesota Department of Administration Grants Management Group. The council, they said, will meet monthly to share investigative data and trends, develop data sharing and program integrity review processes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, you're too late Walls five, six.

[John Hightower]

Years too late to help any agencies in need of specialized audits or inspectors. Members have already met three times since Sept. Walz appointed o', Malley, the former superintendent of the BCA under former governor Tim Pawlenty and current interim Chief Judge of the Court administrative hearings, earlier this month and announced that forensic accounting firm Waypoint will advise the state's fraud detection and prevention efforts. Ongoing investigations into several Minnesota agencies have uncovered hundreds of millions of dollars in fraud allegations feeding our future Claims are estimated between $253,00 million. Medicaid reimbursements for the Federal Housing Stabilization services program exceed 100 million and autism centers could exceed 200 million. In October, Governor Walz announcing a third party audit of those 14 high risk programs, put a 90 day hold on payments to providers to review claims for potential fraud. One of those programs, Housing Stabilization Services, was discontinued on October 31st.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jim John, this is germane to what you're talking about. Emailer Fran Miller writes out of curiosity. I googled autism therapy in Rochester, Minnesota where I currently live. 20 plus centers appeared on Google Maps. A town of 120,000. Most showed street views of dingy little strip mall storefront. Some had interior shots, an empty room with an activity cube from IKEA in one corner. Bike by one and this summer it struck me that there is dust all over the door and windows and no sign of life. I encourage everyone to give it a try. I did the same thing for Cambridge, Minnesota, my hometown. Even Cambridge had several centers. Unbelievable. If Walls gets elected again, I am considering moving. I will be moving once our children graduate from high school. Good luck, Fran. Thank you John.

[John Hightower]

Law enforcement investigating an officer involved shooting Sunday afternoon after a man stole a car and pointed a gun at St. Paul. Police say at about 3 in the afternoon General Motors notified law enforcement that a car had been stolen in Minneapolis. Was driving on I94 towards St Paul GM then slowed the car remotely, according to police, eventually bringing the car to a complete stop on the westbound I94 ramp from Highway 52 at about 3:15 before a man and a woman got out and started running. As the man was running, he allegedly pulled a gun out, pointed it at officers. At that point, officers fired their weapons, weapons hitting the man once in the leg. He was taken to Regents Hospital with a non life threatening injury. Woman was also found and taken into custody. No officers injured in the shooting.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what else fraud should teach us? I grant you much, much of the money that's been stolen comes from the feds. But that's still our money. We're taxed too heavily. They have so much money that we're funding so many nonprofits that that couldn't be done if you weren't taxed so heavily.

[Matthew]

That's what you need to run on. Sir.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

[John Hightower]

St. Paul Police Department said federal agents were involved in a use of force incident Sunday morning after two ICE agents were hit by a car during a pursuit, According to police. Just after 8:20 in the morning, St. Paul officers were called to the 1300 block of Westminster street where gunfire had been reported. After they got there, officers said they learned a federal agent had been hit by a vehicle and fired their weapon. In response. On Sunday evening, the Department of Homeland Security posted more info about the incident, which began when federal agents tried to stop a white SUV near Westminster street on Sunday morning, DHS officials said When ICE agents approached the car and introduced themselves, the man inside, identified as Juan Carlos Rodriguez Romero, an undocumented immigrant, refused to roll down his window and drove off, the process of driving away. He hit a federal agent, according to dhs. DHS said ICE agents then chased Rodriguez Romero, who allegedly pulled into a parking lot by his apartment before hitting two parked cars. Federal agents tried to get Rodriguez Romero out of the car, but DHS said he started ramming his car into an ICE vehicle before hitting another agent. The agent who was struck by the car fired his weapon. No one was injured from the gunfire. Rodriguez Romero drove off again According to federal authorities, before driving to the front door of his apartment complex and hitting another ICE vehicle. Rodriguez Romero was eventually arrested while trying to run into his apartment, although DHS said he bit an ICE agent in the process. Two federal agents were brought to the hospital with non life threatening injuries, according to dhs.

[Matthew]

I wonder what he did or why they wanted him so much. Do we. Do we ever know that? Or do we just know that he's an illegal?

[John Hightower]

Just that he was undocumented at least. Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

He's also got a bad temper, apparently.

[Matthew]

Yeah, and a bad driver, too. He keeps ramming these.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, as Roy said to that gentleman at the fair one day, this guy was a one man wrecking crew.

[Joe Soucheray]

This guy's a one man wrecking crew.

[Matthew]

Get him off the stage.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let him around here.

[Kenny Olson]

Lucky he didn't take a bullet to the brain.

[Chris Reivers]

I was thinking the exact same thing, Kenny.

[John Hightower]

And flu cases and hospitalizations are surging. Early this year in Minnesota, the Minnesota Department of health reported nearly 1900 cases and 558 hospitalizations in its latest weekly update. The highest cases among kids aged 4 and younger and adults 65 and older. Seniors accounted for most of the hospitalizations. The MDH said the number of cases and hospitalizations is not unusual, but the surge came about two weeks earlier than it usually does. In some cases, schools have been affected. A Woodbury charter school announced a three day shift to virtual learning with over 20% of students out with the flu. With holiday travel at its peak, the health department is advising travelers to be considerate if they are sick and need to fly. Why don't we take a quick break here and hear from Mr. Olson?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Get your baby a Christmas gift this. This year. I don't. I don't mean your wife. I. I don't mean your husband. I don't mean your side piece. I mean your baby. Your voice vehicle. Schedule a visit to Schoonover Body Works and Auto Care for whatever work that vehicle might need. Bodywork, general repairs, tires. Oh, here's what you do. Dip your toes in the water, see what it's like. Schedule your next oil change at Schoonovers in Shoreview. There, and then you can find out for yourself just how fancy and fantastic they are. I mean, glass. Yeah, they can do new glass for you all the way around. Even that new fancy glass with all the sensors and electronic stuff, no problem. Why Schoonover, you ask? Well, if you'd been there, you'd already know the answer to that. And if you have been there, you're thinking, Yep, been there, done that. I know why. They've been a family owned business for over 80 years here in the Metro. And now Mike's son Matthew, part of the staff. That's the fourth generation serving us with honest pricing, expert craftsmanship and standing behind every job since the 40s. When you pull out of that lot at Schoonovers, you leave knowing that the job was done right by professionals with years of experience. Schoonover Body Works and Autocare, the official shop of garagelogic. Rocking a 5. No, a 4.9. You know what, I'm going to just round that up and call it a5.0. That's on Google. And of course always five stars from G Elders and us here at the pro program. Schoon over Body Works and Auto care. They're at 1060 County Road, Ian Shoreview. And on the web, schoonoverbodyworks.com.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hey folks, it's Patrick Ricey and fruitcake is back on the menu. Baby, let me ask you something. Would you be happy if the only dessert you got this holiday season was fruitcake? Well, no. Neither would I. That's what it's like when you've got one insurance agent with just one company. You don't have any options. That's why I work with the Canopy Group. They're an insurance agency that's unique because they offer 16 carefully selected companies for your home and auto insurance. 16. And behind the scenes, they've got 50 licensed elves. Okay, they're agents, but this time of year, let's call them elves, making sure you always have the best coverage at the best price. So this holiday season, don't settle for fruitcake. Get options. Visit the Canopy Group and see what they can do for thecanopygroup.com. The earth is not your mother.

[Chris Reivers]

The Joe Sugiray show we are nuts and we are nutsmn.com we were at the Fratelloni Extravaganza on Friday. Guess what? One of the snacks that was provided at the Frateloni Extravaganza.

[Matthew]

I bet it was we are nuts.

[Kenny Olson]

Absolutely.

[Chris Reivers]

And it was the wonderful sampler pack too. That was supplied by Mr. Fratelloni.

[Matthew]

By the way, we were gonna crash that Saturday night, weren't?

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, you guys were in the area. I was told you guys were in the area. It was Friday night.

[Joe Soucheray]

I was unaware of it.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, I know. But the cashews stood no chance with yours truly in line.

[Matthew]

By the way, why didn't you just jump into those milk chocolate almonds?

[Chris Reivers]

I almost took the tray and just kind of put it into my bowl like this like. Ah, don't mind me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Anyway, Dan. Hey, pack it in there. Boy, that stuff keeps you regular.

[Chris Reivers]

It sure does. But you can see it for yourself. Check them out online [e-mail] it's wonderful small batch snap made right here by a wonderful family owned operation and you can get them at all of your Fratelloni's hardware and garden stores, locations, Lunds and Barley's, Kowalski's Markets, Kub Foods, Kwiktrip and now available at Colburn's Retail and the Hokey Pokey Popcorn by the way, is a fan of the young man in the next room too, by the way. But again, wearenuts.mn.com, place your order and let them know you heard about them here on the garagelogic podcast.

[John Hightower]

In national and international stories, the long awaited disclosure of the Jeffrey Epstein investigative files has arrived, but the resulting digital fallout suggests the public feels more deceived than informed. Instead of the transparency media campaign for the release has sparked a firestorm of criticism over the heavy handed use of the black pen. Over a hundred pages from the Epstein files were redacted, leading many to wonder what was the point of releasing them in the first place. The move also sparked various rumors as to why the Department of Justice decided to hide many of the files. Following the passage of the Epstein Files Transparency act, the Department of justice began releasing releasing thousands of documents on the 19th last Friday. This legislative mandate required the government to disclose unclassified records, communications and investigative materials related to Jeffrey Epstein. Trump administration said that the release was intended to provide closure and demonstrate a commitment to honesty. Unfortunately, most of the pages were kept hidden and the mass redaction immediately raised eyebrows on social media. Meanwhile, items from the Epstein files, including a photo containing President Trump, were removed by the Justice Department after after being up for just one day, according to an assistant attorney general. The image featuring Trump was later reinstated after review. Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general, said he was rejecting criticisms the removal was related to President Trump and said the photo that included him also showed unredacted images of women. At least 13 files from thousands released on Friday related to late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein had disappeared from the website without any explanation. Explanation by Saturday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Aren't you tired of this act?

[Matthew]

Yes, Yep.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

The the only thing we can deduce is that a bunch of supposedly important guys are really embarrassed about something. It could. It could range from just being pictured with this screwball Einstein. What's his name?

[John Hightower]

Epstein.

[Joe Soucheray]

Epstein or or, or they've done something horrible. In either case, they're all being protected by the third rail and the, the public is being treated like, like gum on the bottom of your shoe.

[Kenny Olson]

You don't think that there's national, national security issues here? You don't believe any of the spy angle, any of that?

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

You are gullible.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. Did see the one of, of Bill, he was in the swimming pool.

[Joe Soucheray]

I did see that.

[Matthew]

I had not seen that one until today.

[Chris Reivers]

All I could picture, all I could think about is rookie describing Wild Bill's swimsuit. You know, what was he, what was he wearing?

[Joe Soucheray]

Was he, was he going.

[Chris Reivers]

He go.

[Joe Soucheray]

Trunks. We call those trunks.

[Matthew]

Swim trunks.

[Joe Soucheray]

Trunks.

[John Hightower]

President Trump's appointment of a special envoy for Greenland drew an angry response from Denmark and reignited its concerns about U.S. efforts to control the strategic territory. The president yesterday appointed Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry as envoy to Greenland, an autonomous island that is part of the kingdom of Denmark, saying on social media that Landry understands how essential Greenland is to our national security. Denmark said it wasn't informed about the appointment, adding to a sense in the Scandinavian nation that it's being kept in the dark about Washington's real ambitions for Greenland, which constitutes 98% of that kingdom's territory. Danish Foreign Minister Lars Loki Rasmussen said he would summon the US Ambassador to express his discontent and demand an explanation for the appointment, which Rasmussen said came out of nowhere. President Trump is threatening to withhold congressionally authorized funding from the Smithsonian Institute Institution if it doesn't hand over extensive internal records as part of a White House push to influence how US History is presented there. The White House's demand for Smithsonian Institution records and the threat to withhold funding highlight tensions over federal influence on historical narratives. As the US approaches its 250th anniversary next year, the dispute raises questions about the independence of cultural institutions, the use of political leverage over federal appropriations, and how publicly funded museums present American history. Speaking of rewriting history, I think we just touched on this last week. The hall of Fame plaques that the president put up about the presidents. Yes, there were some over the weekend that made themselves known. My favorite, Andrew Jackson. Yeah, did you see this one?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I did not.

[John Hightower]

It says, and President Trump apparently wrote these, according to the info we got last week. Before becoming president, Jackson was best known for leading the victory at the Battle of New Orleans during the War of 18, 1912. Jackson was often called the people's president for championing the common man, but was unjustifiably treated unfairly by the press. But not as viciously and unfairly as President Abraham Lincoln and President Donald J. Trump would be in the future.

[Joe Soucheray]

Something happened at the age of 70.

[Chris Reivers]

Did he put a personal spin on all of them? John?

[John Hightower]

I don't think so. I saw some that were just normal, you know, shootouts, little printouts.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, Biden's picture is just a picture of a panel.

[Chris Reivers]

Kind of funny.

[John Hightower]

It's kind of funny.

[Joe Soucheray]

What are you gonna do?

[John Hightower]

Waymo halted service in San Francisco as of Saturday at 8pm after a. Did you see these pictures? Power outage that left about 30% of the city without power. And the autonomous cars just stopped, causing traffic jams throughout the city because they're unable to function without traffic signals.

[Gad Saad]

Oh.

[John Hightower]

Suzanne Fillion, WAYMO spokesperson, said, we have temporarily suspended our ride hailing services. We're focused on keeping our riders safe. Pedestrians posted videos on X Saturday of Waymo cars stuck at intersections and with their lights flashing. Power was restored yesterday to the bulk of the 130,000 homes and businesses in San Francisco impacted by the massive outage a day earlier that caused major disruptions in the city.

[Joe Soucheray]

Waymo, another solution to a problem that didn't exist.

[Chris Reivers]

Who's getting it first, your city or Minneapolis?

[Joe Soucheray]

Probably Minneapolis.

[Chris Reivers]

Think so.

[Gad Saad]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Get stuck at a snowbank.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep. When shining around in circles.

[Kenny Olson]

When they attack China, attacks the power grid. It's over for 90% of Americans. Within a month, they'll just be dead. Bodies everywhere.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right.

[Kenny Olson]

As people cannot function without electricity. Electricity.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right.

[John Hightower]

A death in the music world. Chris Ria after decades of health problems that sidelined him but never stopped him from making music, died. His biggest hit, 1978 school if you think it's over. Great record. Hit number one on the adult contemporary charts. Hit number 12 on the top 100 pop chart and several other records through the years that charted in the U. S. But had his great successes in his home, Great Britain, where he had dozens of records records chart where he was happy to admit he was a vehicle addict with a huge love of cars.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right.

[John Hightower]

Traveling in them helped inspire some of his music. He owned and raced various vintage cars including I don't know what this is. You probably do, fellas. A 1957 Morris Minor 1000 police car.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Little teeny car. Looks like a Fiat 500.

[John Hightower]

He was friends with Eddie Jordan for real. Friends with Eddie Jordan, owner of the Jordan Formula one team and one helped out in the pit lane during races for Jordan. He had all kinds of health problems starting when he was 33. Actually got out of the music business for a year or two because at that point he had to have his pancreas replaced and he had several strokes in the past 20 years, but he still continued to make music. Chris Ria was 74 years.

[Kenny Olson]

You can replace a pancreas.

[Chris Reivers]

That's what I was wondering, I guess.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I can find him on ebay.

[Kenny Olson]

They have those in Fleet Farm.

[Matthew]

Aisle 70 consumables. Oh, right by the adult diapers.

[John Hightower]

Feel good. Story from Great Britain. One lucky couple has beaten extraordinary odds to win one million pounds on the National Lottery.

[Joe Soucheray]

Big deal.

[Matthew]

I know.

[John Hightower]

For the second time.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that is a big.

[Matthew]

Okay.

[John Hightower]

49 year old Richard Davies and 43 year old face Stevenson Davies first scooped a seven figure jackpot playing the Euro millions millionaire maker in June of 2018 and they did it again this month by matching the five main numbers in the bonus ball in the Lotto draw on 26th of November, the chances of which are more than 24 trillion to 1 according to the experts.

[Joe Soucheray]

So you're telling me there's a chance, right?

[John Hightower]

Fay said we knew the odds of it happening again were outrageous, but we're proof that if you believe anything is possible. However, the latest windfall is unlikely to change the community the couple's community minded attitude. Richard is a former hairdresser. He now uses his skills at a shelter for the homeless in Cardiff, a project which received vital National Lottery funding while also helping out friends by working as a delivery driver. Meanwhile, ex nurse Faye is a volunteer cook at Segan Hayden Community Kitchen in Carlton Marathon while also providing mental health counseling services to local organizations for the Brickon and District Mind charity. Speaking on BBC Radio Wales Drive, Richard said going public this time was something we didn't do likely. Since the first time we've been involved in quite a few events with the lottery and charity. So much good out there and at the moment there's so much doom and gloom on the news. It was just a bit of cheer really.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is Wednesday night one of those big drawings?

[Kenny Olson]

Tonight is tonight.

[Matthew]

Tonight is. And let me just. I must say that when we at our home for the 30 seconds fantasize about winning the lottery, I'm told by my spouse we'd be divorced in two weeks and that theme comes up every time we talk about it. Is she trying to, is she trying to tell me something?

[Joe Soucheray]

Why not taking the money and running?

[Kenny Olson]

Get ahead of it right now, Mick.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, take care of her.

[Matthew]

She said we can't afford to get.

[Chris Reivers]

Divorced so she's going to be the. Hey I just won the lottery. Pack your bags. Where we go, I don't care.

[Joe Soucheray]

Just get out of here. Time already.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you guys, are you guys still buying lottery tickets?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I do not.

[Matthew]

I buy one.

[Chris Reivers]

I just buy one Powerball.

[John Hightower]

One Powerball ticket.

[Kenny Olson]

You know it would be winning the lottery for me if I could have the hundred dollars back. I've invested in the last month in the lottery. That, that would be a lottery win for me.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're one of those saps, huh?

[Kenny Olson]

I am a SAP.

[John Hightower]

Did you know that you can now buy those tickets online?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I did not know that.

[John Hightower]

I did not know that till this weekend.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, that's wonderful news and I think those people are to be congratulated. Thank you very much.

[John Hightower]

You're welcome.

[Matthew]

Well, this isn't hitting the lottery but you'll probably be just as pleased when your furnace conks out completely. And you already know that you can go to welterheating.com to get that furnace fix. And that's emergency repair 24 7. You go to their website, welterheating.com they have a revamped website so if you been there many times poking around, checking out the blog, doing whatever, they've got a brand new website and you can click on those same buttons to find out what you want. But it's a nice crisp and clean look. For last, I don't know, 120 years the welter family has been doing a fantastic job of working on all of those things in your home. Furnace repair, furnace maintenance, air conditioning, all sorts of great stuff. Plus the air purification systems as well. Go to welterheating or if you must go old school. 612-825-6867. There's four generations serving the metro area with certified techs that know exactly what's going on. Since 1904 they've been warming up your shelter when you need it. Don't forget to find folks at Ray n welter.

[Chris Reivers]

We've.

[Matthew]

Well, time flies by. You cannot stop him.

[Joe Soucheray]

He'll just make a move. Joe Sugeray.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't mean to turn this into the fratolone Christmas party fan line at all but fine reviews from the harmony spirits that we had at the Frateloni gift. I gotta have a review from you. By the way rookie. Did the gals like the pre made cocktails from harmony spirits that I brought?

[Matthew]

They did. Only two of them were consumed but they were fabulous.

[Chris Reivers]

The caramel apple rum, first time I've had it with soda water. Holy cow was that good.

[Matthew]

I'm not sure. What they mixed it with, I wasn't privy to that. But there was high, high praise for Harmony Spirits.

[Chris Reivers]

So if you're entertaining or if you're going out and about, stop in at the tasting room and say hi to Larry and Damon and the entire crew. And those premixed cocktails are there and ready for you. And those four packs are fantastic and a great way to show, show those in your life that you love them and care about them. But you can continue to, if you please, would continue to go into your local liquor store and please ask for the Harmony brand by name. That is truly how these fine folks are going to continue to spread the good news. And also they wanted me to thank all of you glers that have been stopping in at the tasting room over the last year. They really do appreciate it. And again, check them out on their Facebook page, Harmony Spirits Distillery and their.

[Joe Soucheray]

Website, harmonyspirits.com say, I was remiss earlier in the show and I apologize. I meant to wish all of us 21st ers a happy spring. And I got a note from as far away as Dallas, from Paul Petruzewski, who writes merry Christmas to you and the gang and from your humble keeper of the Royal Order here in Dallas, where we get to kick chunks every seven to 10 years. I'm dreaming of a white slush chunk just like the ones I used to kick. He's the president of the Dallas chapter of the royal order of 21sters. And speaking of Waymo, if you had gas in your car in San Francisco, you wouldn't have been stuck there. You could have left. Ford announced that it is killing production of the F150 EV pickup. Wow. Yay. They are forced to take a whopping $19.5 billion write down because of the dramatic shift away from electric vehicles. The outlook for electric vehicle sales dimmed significantly this year when the Trump administration ended taxpayer subsidies for EVs and eased tailpipe emission rules. All right. American auto companies are flourishing this year because of their newfound freedom to operate profitably. Ford stock is up 40% year to date. GM stock is up 53%. The overall all market is up 15%. How about that, huh?

[Matthew]

I think that is a ray of hope. That's pushback, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hold on.

[Chris Reivers]

That's a good point, Matthew. Thank you.

[Matthew]

Here's today's ray of hope.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you want a ray of hope? I have one right here. Where is it from Julie, who writes a year end ray of hope? There is a boy in our neighborhood, maybe in his early Teens who was a very active fisherman. I've seen him frequently throughout the summer and fall riding a bike that trailers a cart with his fishing gear.

[Chris Reivers]

Nice.

[Joe Soucheray]

He rides past our house down towards our suburban lake with at least two or three fishing poles. This summer, when I was up just before 6am Walking the dog, I ran into him waiting for the neighborhood neighbor kid and asked where he fished. I was so impressed he'd get up so early on a day when he could be sleeping. Just now, on the first day of Christmas break, he went walking by, bundled it up, bundled up. But it had to be him with two fishing poles on his back and what looked to be a small handheld generator in one hand and an auger in the other. I just love this kid. Isn't that great? That is a ray.

[Matthew]

Here's today's ray of hope.

[Joe Soucheray]

And Downing believes we need additions to the GL map. Are you listening? Greg Holcomb, who now lives in Florida, the official GL artist. He believes we should have a Jeff Dayton bandshell.

[Matthew]

Oh, that's good.

[Joe Soucheray]

The Newton Winchell Museum of Rocks and Minerals. And if we don't already, a Marjorie Johnson Bakery. I think Marjorie's on the map.

[Matthew]

There's a Marjorie Johnson's Pie Shop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, there's a pie shop for Marjorie Johnson.

[Matthew]

She talked to Rosie about it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right? And one more chunky.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute. He's just going to usher Stacy out the door and give this guy the.

[Matthew]

How about that?

[Joe Soucheray]

What do you think?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm against that idea.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I would say that Stacy could be the. No, it's her joint. The head of the Newton Winchell Museum, Stacy Larson. Okay, no, I'll let Stacy a little.

[Matthew]

Pushback on that too.

[Kenny Olson]

There does not sit well.

[Chris Reivers]

The dude does not abide.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail the flashlight king. Hail you. For 20 years I worked for Schwan's Ice Cream and Frozen Foods delivering to rural areas around Minneapolis. Driving around county roads with my truck, I would amass huge chunks in the winter, I would actually see how big I could get them before I either was forced to kick the chunks or witness the chunk calving like icebergs calve off, you know? Yes, it was especially satisfying to see the front and back wheels to calve at the same same time. I now live in Colorado where we don't get chunks. I thoroughly enjoy listening to the podcast and wax nostalgic with chunk updates. FYI, last year we had a family move into the neighborhood from Minnesota. I stopped to talk to Eric on my walk down the service road of life and he lamented about missing the Garage Logic radio show. I pulled out my phone and introduced him to the podcast I listened to on my walk. Keep on keeping on. P.S. i hear President Trump is renaming the San Andreas Fault to the Joe Biden's fault.

[Matthew]

That's pretty good.

[Chris Reivers]

That's pretty funny.

[Joe Soucheray]

And only because they come to us all the way from the Travel Viking recap.

[Matthew]

Don't you?

[Joe Soucheray]

In Kai Walka, New Zealand. New Zealand, we didn't do a damn thing. Really. We did one thing. On this day, December 22, 1858, the year we became a state.

[Matthew]

What happened?

[Joe Soucheray]

The Reverend Edward D. Neal officiated at the dedication of the first House of Hope Presbyterian Church building, a chapel that stood on Walnut street between Oak and Pleasant streets in Central St. Paul. The congregation moved in 1869 to a church at Fifth and Exchange streets and then in 1914 to Summit Avenue.

[Matthew]

I know exactly where that is.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I would hope so. It's pretty noted.

[Matthew]

Yeah, it was there. It was there before the House of Wong in Roseville.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in Minnesota, sports discipline. That was the mental in it. Editing part on this.

[Matthew]

The show's done. This is the fun time. This is when I have carte blanche.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history. December 22, 1968, the Vikings lost in the divisional playoffs to the Colts 24 14. And back in those days, the Colts were where they belonged in Baltimore.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, I didn't know the Colts were in nfc.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I guess.

[Matthew]

I bet that set the tone for Bob.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, December 22nd, I don't recall this. 1979, the North Stars were fogged out at a game at the Met Center.

[Chris Reivers]

How do you not remember that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I don't and I'm sorry I don't. But I just don't know.

[Matthew]

The guy wrote the book.

[Chris Reivers]

You're the host of North.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what?

[Matthew]

There once was a Met Center.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, but that should have been in there. Folks logged out.

[Matthew]

Yeah. What was the name of it again?

[Joe Soucheray]

There once there was a ballpark. Oh, this was a doozy, too. On this day, December 22nd.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not looking at it.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1982.

[John Hightower]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Neil Broughton. Wayne Gretzky had a fight.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, I do remember that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that had to be a purse slugging fest.

[Kenny Olson]

Was it a slap fest?

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Way too smart to hurt each other, right?

[Kenny Olson]

I wonder if they set that up during one of the.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wonder.

[Chris Reivers]

You. You slap me, I'll slap you.

[Kenny Olson]

What do you say we give them a show there brought.

[Joe Soucheray]

They were the two most unlikely characters to engage in senseless violence.

[Matthew]

Okay, great one.

[Joe Soucheray]

And then also on December 21st, that was yesterday. December 21st, 2025, the Vikings beat the New York Giants in the worst football game ever played in the history of the National Football League. Accompan by the worst officiating ever in the history of the National Football League, I went for my 3040 minute walk and still had time to see what a crummy game it was.

[Chris Reivers]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, G Ellers.

[Chris Reivers]

More to come in just a few moments on Monday Night Sports Talk. Hey, do us a favor. If you have not done so already, hit the subscribe button on the Garage Logic YouTube channel. Yep, that's. That's right. GarageLogic has a YouTube channel and you can watch the show each and every single day starting right around noon. There is also full segments, video shorts, there's behind the scenes footage. It's all there for you. Just search garagelogic2words on YouTube along with all of our social media channels, which includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That's an email that comes right to your inbox each and every single day. And it includes the most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more and sign up [e-mail]. It is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what Ida did and pick up that phone and dial 952-92-5560. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, oh boy, Josh, the prediction markets, they're in a bit of disarray based upon some of the results over the weekend, aren't they?

[Josh Arnold]

Definitely, definitely. Definite predictions, Marcus, which we have talked about for in the last week, definitely in a bit of a disarray as many predicted that favorites would win both in college and in pro, in pro sports over the, over the weekend, particularly relating to the college football championships and the playoffs and the NFL. I'm guessing, Chris, since you're such a sports fan as I am, you may well have been glued to the TV or maybe glued to your, your iPhone because you probably being a little younger than I am, you're probably streaming all your sports as opposed to sitting with the clicker in hand and going back and forth between channels. Or maybe you have what my son has four screens up on the big screen at once so you don't miss a play or on Sunday or Saturday night, you know you had the, the red zone package going. So a lot of very exciting, exciting games with me. But the results definitely threw the predictions markets in a little bit of a disarray and there were probably a lot more people disappointed in their prediction of bets other than there were satisfied costs. I mean a prediction such as okay Anthony Joshua was going to crush Jake Paul in their boxing match. Now that's almost a no brainer. Maybe the prediction was in what round was that that's going to take take place. But predicting the outcome we'll say of the Packers Bears game or the this, you know, the sooner Crimson Tide game. Now that, that's another, that's another matter. But the predictions markets which have been rising and have been we'll say hurting somewhat the gaming stock, Whether it be DraftKings or Flutter, both of them are down significantly from their highs early on or any of the stocks related to regional or Las Vegas games gambling, all are down this year with the exception of those that have a stake in we'll say China and the Far east that being Wynn Resorts and Las Vegas Sand. So they've been the two winners in that space. Competition. Competition is only going to get stronger in, in those markets and it's going to make it a little bit more challenging to I'll say for investors in that, in that particular space which in the past had been a favorite of mine going forward into 2020, 2026 got to be a little bit more careful because these companies look more like we'll say value trap or very, very, very short term trade. I'm staying in in the leisure space which is one of the areas that I have focused on along with companies involved in the Internet, companies doing business around China and real assets at the leisure space. Investing around sport for the most part has proved to be very good. Or we'll say sports and music, they're definitely not going away. And if you have companies that are involved in sports and music and doing business in we'll say in China and involved in the Internet, well then you've got a big time potential going forward. I'll say favorites of mine and most the of say music and sports that have done well this year have included Live Nation and tko. Now TKO has got to be a favorite. Of course. Chris of my friend TKO owns Ultimate Fighting and the wwe. Both Live Nation and TKO have very we'll call it low quotes or it becomes so I'll say be careful when buying and also careful when selling. Use limit orders there, not not market orders there. And you definitely need some patience. Live Nation has a little bit more hair on it than does CKO as Live Nation owns Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster is under, I'll say the watch of the ftc, Department of Justice and several lawyers for possibly overcharging both in the particularly in the resale market. Just something to consider this week. A short week in the market with markets open fully today, tomorrow and Friday and a half day on Wednesday. So do expect a little more volatility this week as a lot of traders are on vacation next week. Next week is the last week of the market year. There would be a little bit more cleaning up to do before we start into 2026 and we'll cover that in more detail as we go along the next few days.

[Chris Reivers]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation. Absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it.

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