1/23 The Mayor tries to explain that ICE agents were unprepared for what they would be dealing with in Minneapolis

Summary

Garage Logic (Gamut Podcast Network)

Episode: 1/23/26 – The Mayor tries to explain that ICE agents were unprepared for what they would be dealing with in Minneapolis
Air Date: January 23, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Garage Logic, Minnesota's popular, common sense-centric podcast, concentrates on the contentious presence of ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) in Minneapolis. Host Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”) and the regular crew dig into why ICE’s actions have caused turmoil in the metro area, arguing that the agents were unprepared for the unique political and social environment. Through spirited debate, they examine Minnesota’s progressive governance, empathize (and sometimes clash) about the best path forward, and sharply critique both local and federal approaches.

The show also touches on recent protest culture, media manipulation, business reactions to ICE activity, Minnesota's political trajectory, and even tosses in some classic GL tangents about weather, coffee, and ice cubes.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

A. Social Media Manipulation & Nakima Levy Armstrong (03:17–07:06)

• Altered Arrest Photo Controversy:
  The crew critiques government manipulation of images, referencing a White House-posted photo that supposedly depicts Nakima Levy Armstrong sobbing during her arrest. They roundly agree this misrepresents her, asserting she thrives on the attention.
  • "Sobbing is the last thing in the world she's doing… she’s relishing this." – Joe Soucheray (04:24)
• Kenny Olson contextualizes how both political sides twist perceptions online, but John Height points out that it's far more serious coming from the government.
• They connect this media manipulation to a broader trend where ‘perception is reality’ regardless of actual events.

B. Main Theme: ICE in Minneapolis – Unprepared and Out of Place (07:13–18:32)

• John Hines’ “Sermon”:
  He contends ICE agents don’t recognize how distinct Minnesota is, emphasizing the city’s election of leaders fundamentally opposed to border enforcement and law enforcement itself.
  • "Minnesota is unique. We are governed in the metro exclusively by people who... don't think there's any such thing as an illegal person.” – John Hines (08:04)
• Criticism of ICE's Approach:
  ICE is compared to “violent Keystone Cops” (07:13), acting “scatterbrained” (11:08) with a “willy-nilly appearance shooting tear gas at people.” Hines suggests they need a strategic reset, targeting truly dangerous criminals and avoiding pointless escalation.
• Call for a Strategic Rethink:
  Hines repeatedly insists, “Go home, go back to headquarters, draw up a new pregame plan... Target them [dangerous criminals]... Leave quietly.” (9:11)
• Lack of Professionalism:
  Recent high-profile images of aggressive policing are cited as evidence ICE has misread the landscape.

C. Twin Cities’ Political Environment: A Unique Challenge for ICE (10:22–18:32)

• Uncompromising Local Politics:
  The hosts stress the unprecedented challenge of operating in a metro with elected officials openly hostile to ICE and federal immigration enforcement.
  • “You are dealing with a core ideology of complete contempt for this country.” – John Hines (14:07)
• Protest Dynamics:
  Discussion of protests at the airport highlights the strategic nature of opposition – some protesters willingly get arrested to gain attention (12:47–13:18).

D. Debate: What Should ICE Do? (19:16–27:28)

• Kenny Olson’s Contrarian View:
  Disagrees with Hines, warning that withdrawal “hands that side a victory and then crime wins.” (21:27)
• Middle Ground:
  Olson and Chris Reavers underscore that the most volatile ICE actions are outliers; most arrests are “boring” unless protesters intervene. (19:40–21:19)
• Key Exchange:
  • "If they leave now, it's going to hand that side a victory and then crime wins." – Kenny Olson (21:27)
  • "That's the only answer I have." – John Hines (21:25)
• Final Word:
  Hines maintains that ICE’s current practices are unsustainable and bound to provoke tragedy unless they reform.

E. Broader Reflections on Leadership and Minnesota’s Direction (27:23–37:38)

• Local Government Failures:
  Speakers bemoan the lack of leadership at all levels, from the governor down.
• Political Trends:
  Debate around why ICE is present: Was it to curb fraud, target illegal immigrants, or part of Trump-vs-Walz political games?
  • "There is no leadership in this state at any level who would be friendly to ICE." – John Hines (32:38)
• Business and Protest:
  Analysis of the #ICEOUT movement, where hundreds of businesses closed in protest of ICE, is roundly criticized as self-defeating.
  • "I don't get the point of this. You're already struggling. Why would you enhance your struggling?" – John Hines (37:38)

F. Listener Email – The Inmates Running the Asylum Analogy (76:08–80:22)

• A lengthy, serious email likens Minnesota’s state of governance and community order to an inner-city high school overtaken by unruly students. The crew largely agrees, lamenting decades of complacency and failed leadership, with a call for firm restoration of order.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Media & Protest

"Sobbing is the last thing in the world she's doing. She's relishing this." - Joe Soucheray (04:24)

“This is a White House picture… That’s beyond my understanding.” – John Height (05:32)

ICE Critique & Metro Politics

"ICE guys and gals… you were poorly briefed on what you were getting into… This isn’t Texas. It isn’t Florida. You are running into people who absolutely loathe the founding of the country." – John Hines (08:04–09:24)

“Go back to headquarters. Come up with—I don’t care how many there are—criminals… target them… leave quietly.” – John Hines (09:13)

Division in the Room

"If they leave now, it's going to hand that side a victory and then crime wins." – Kenny Olson (21:27)

"I'm not saying stand down. I'm saying reform and do it in a way that might be proved to be more effective." – John Hines (33:42)

On #ICEOUT Protest

"Do you think ICE cares if some knitting store closed? …You're just saying we'll show you. We're not gonna make any money today." – John Hines (35:03)

"I'm tempted to want to never do business with a business that closes. Not because of ICE or anything… I just don't want to do business with somebody that's stupid." – John Hines (37:42)

Listener Feedback on State’s Direction

“The inmates have taken over the asylum in Minnesota. It did not just happen in a couple of years. This has been decades in the making and is the result of terrible leadership and complacency from the rest of us... Either you want it fixed or you don't.” – Listener Email, Chris Ailsh (76:11–80:16)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:17–07:06 – The Nakima Levy Armstrong photo controversy; social media manipulation
• 07:13–11:48 – Hines’ critique: ICE “Keystone Cops” in a hostile city; call for strategic overhaul
• 12:47–14:38 – Protest strategies; discussion of Minneapolis’ ideological makeup
• 19:16–21:36 – Internal debate: Should ICE withdraw or reform? (Hines vs. Olson)
• 27:23–33:49 – Political context: Why ICE is in MN, state leadership vacuum
• 35:03–37:38 – Critique of the “ICE Out” business protest
• 76:08–80:22 – Listener email: “The inmates have taken over the asylum” analogy

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Additional Highlights & Tone

• Show Tone:
  True to Garage Logic style: irreverent, rambling, alternately serious and sarcastic, with classic Midwestern skepticism.
• Soucheray as “The Mayor”:
  Acts as a referee and civilizer, but gets drawn into debate and even yells at co-hosts at times for “stupid questions” (16:32).
• Comic Relief:
  Tangents about “self-sanding shoes,” ice cubes, and weather-related grievances provide much-needed comic interludes.
• Political Critique:
  Unapologetically critical of both local DFL (Democratic–Farmer–Labor Party) leadership and federal response; sees both as failing the city.

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Conclusion

The January 23, 2026, episode of Garage Logic is a robust, sometimes fractious exploration of ICE’s embattled presence in Minneapolis. The hosts dissect the clash between federal immigration enforcement and a metro area governed by progressive ideologues—arguing ICE critically underestimated the resistance they'd face. Ultimately, the crew is split on whether to advocate radical reform in ICE’s tactics or double down to discourage lawlessness, but all agree that neither current strategies nor local political leadership are working. The episode is laced with sardonic humor, listener engagement, and the feel of a heated town hall—making it a must-listen for anyone wanting context on the culture war playing out in Minnesota.

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For more, catch the full debate—and occasional comic relief—on the Garage Logic podcast.

Transcript

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hines]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning Technology corner, Kenny Olson from the Crabby Coffee Shop, John Height in the newsroom and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your May Joe Sushore. Is Pat gonna be on today?

[Joe Soucheray]

I received a text from your longtime cohort on Monday night Sports Talk. You boys are half gonna get by without me today. I am monitoring Twins Fest. And I said, hey, are tickets available? Because you know, they're only doing one day and it happens to be the coldest day in the last 25 years at Target Field. It's today.

[John Hines]

Well, it's not outside, no, but it's.

[Joe Soucheray]

Still at Target Field. And he said, I believe tickets will still be available, which I said. Then it reminded me of my favorite Twins Fest moment where you called the dome a bleep and dump right in front of Dave St. Peter. But then Patrick followed that up with when we were sitting there, you Me, rookie and ricey. And all the doors were opened at the Metrodome and everyone started to run in. And Royce goes, jesus Christ, look at these bleeping dorks. We got her. So Patrick will not be with us today.

[Chris Reavers]

That's your answer.

[John Hines]

I think that was an uncharitable view by Patrick.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I couldn't agree more. Look at these dorks.

[Chris Reavers]

Hey, how you doing?

[John Hines]

The White House posted a photo on social media that was digitally altered to make it look like a protester was solid when she was arrested in connection with her protest in the church last week. They're speaking of Nakima Levy. Levy Armstrong. And they're showing Armstrong. Let's see. This was posted by Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.

[John Height]

No, the original one was posted by Kristi Noem. The one where.

[John Hines]

Well, it wasn't altered. Let me start over then. A photo of Nakima Levy Armstrong's arrest showing Armstrong with a neutral expression was first posted on X by Kristi Noem. The image the White House posted appears the same, except Armstrong's altered facial expression shows her sobbing. Okay, that's ridiculous. As is all social media. But here they don't understand Nekima. Sobbing is the last thing in the world she's doing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, heavens, yes. Yeah, she's relishing this.

[John Hines]

She's not the sobbing type. And she might be ranting and raving, but more predictably, she's probably enjoying the hell out of this because it's only going to elevate her status. Martyrdom in the Twin Cities. I guarantee you she's not sobbing. So why? Why? This trickery is beyond my.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I can tell you why.

[John Hines]

Why?

[Kenny Olson]

Because I fell down the fact checking rabbit hole this morning, and this is. I'm speaking on both sides here. I'm not going to accuse one of being more. One being worse than the other. Both sides love to post crazy, insane things, get a lot of people drawn in, get a whole bunch of engagement, and then a day, two days later, after it doesn't matter anymore, they do a correction when the damage has already been done. Well, it's one of those deals, Joe, where perception, even when it's wrong, is reality. Both sides are doing it. Actually, everybody on the Internet does it.

[John Height]

May I add to that, though, Kenny? One side is the White House. That's a White House picture.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. And the other side is the whole goddamn Democratic Party. I mean, we could go back and forth. John, just accept. I don't.

[John Hines]

Kenny's so frightened of. I really don't. All I'm pointing out is.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm not frightened of anything.

[John Hines]

We've been dealing with Nekima for what, rook 10, 15 years?

[Joe Soucheray]

Way more than that. I bet.

[John Hines]

I know her like the back of my hand.

[Chris Reavers]

No response from the text.

[John Hines]

And she's. She's. She doesn't entirely hate us. She's almost come on the air a couple of times. She hasn't. But she doesn't. She doesn't hate us. 100.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's like the twins almost signed a starting picture.

[John Hines]

We almost got Nikita. He doesn't hate me 100%.

[Kenny Olson]

I almost won a million dollars in Vegas one time.

[John Hines]

Almost. No. Come on. Come on.

[Joe Soucheray]

Check it out.

[John Hines]

We know our left wing agitators. And I know Nakima was not sobbing. Now, Kenny's point might be extracurricular to that. I realize the world of social media is full of hijinks and mischief. Phil. I would just. I was just bemused at the idea. They got her so wrong. She's not a sobber. She's eating this up and she's gonna. You'll hear about this for the next five years.

[Joe Soucheray]

It was akin to. Remember when AOC pretended to be handcuffed because that's what she wanted the perception to be. It's the same exact thing.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't remember that one.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Hines]

You know, there's something to be said here. I wasn't going to, but the Nakima thing got me thinking about it.

[Joe Soucheray]

You feel you owe it to us?

[John Hines]

I do. Okay. One of the reasons I think the presence of ICE is so problematic. And I'm going to be entirely serious and I. I'm. I insist that their presence here is problematic. They're. They're a violent group of Keystone Cops. Right. Now, here's why. ICE guys and gals. I believe that you must do what you're doing the way you're doing. It doesn't work. And I'm going to tell you why. You were poorly briefed on what you were getting into. Minnesota is unique. We are governed in the metro exclusively by people who not only don't want borders, they don't think there's any such thing as an illegal person. We are governed by as far left a group of people who you can possibly elect. And it is entirely understandable that the people who voted for that are reacting the way they do. You didn't. You were seriously. You were poorly schooled for what you were walking into. You've got mothers who can't wait to sign up for neighborhood patrol. You've got people giving new life to the whistle Manufacturing industry. You've got people who are. And the killing of Renee Goode just blew it up. Put it over the top and you have no idea. This isn't Texas. It isn't Florida. You are running into people who absolutely loathe the founding of the country. We've elected them. They don't believe in law enforcement. They don't believe in authority. They're acting the way that their political ideology directs them to act. You got people holding up signs saying we're on stolen land. So your job is impossible here. It really is what I would do. And I've said this 15 times. Go home. Go back to headquarters. Draw up a new pregame plan. Cite the most egregious people you want to find. And I'm tired of you people telling me, well, even if it's a cook or a chef or a house cleaner, she's still illegally. That's the least of your problems. Go back to headquarters. Come up with. I don't care how many there are. 78. 178 criminals, murderers, rapists, whatever. Target them in your pre game plan. Figure out where they are. Don't announce your arrival. Go get them, deport them, Leave quietly. You won't be wasting our time and we won't be wasting yours.

[Joe Soucheray]

You want a halftime adjustment?

[John Hines]

I want professionalism.

[Joe Soucheray]

Gotcha.

[John Hines]

Right now, what I'm seeing is not professional. There's a picture on the front page of the Star Tribune this morning. Granted, I don't know the whole story, okay, but some mall cop is sitting there shooting chemical agent at point blank range in a guy's face while he's on the ground. That's not professionalism. That's just not professional. Start over, Ice. I believe you have to do what you're doing. But you didn't know what you were getting into. This is not the place that's going to tolerate the way you're acting. Given who we've elected from governor on down. You've misread the whole landscape. You've just completely misread it all. Yes, you in the back.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I know that. I saw the photo myself. And the Starch mutant.

[John Hines]

I don't know the whole story.

[Joe Soucheray]

None of us do. Do you also think that the Star Tribune would also post a photo on the main page of the front?

[John Hines]

Of course I do.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you think that they would do that of a guy that was arrested for raping a 13 year old?

[John Hines]

They better.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they won't. Well, that's my counterpart.

[John Hines]

You're interrupting me in introducing a point that I'm not willing to talk about at the moment. I'm already. I'm talking about this. Okay, Just stay tuned.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right.

[John Hines]

This isn't going to get better. It's only going to get worse. I don't know if ICE has the ability or Nome has the ability or Trump has the ability to whistle them back to headquarters and say, fellas, guys, gals, What you're doing will not work in that state. It might work in some other state, but it's not working here. And I can't see it getting better and getting back to the altered photo of Nekima by the White House. You don't know who you're dealing with. You're not doing your homework. You're not displaying any intelligence whatsoever. You're acting scatterbrained, and it won't work here. That's the end of my sermon.

[Chris Reavers]

Right now, there's 90, less than 100 people at the airport that are protesting, and they have basically volunteered to be arrested. Everybody else is doing a peaceful protest.

[John Hines]

Right. Are they outside, Matt? Are they outside?

[Chris Reavers]

They're outside.

[John Hines]

Well, then they're hoping to get arrested because it's 25 below.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, there's several hundred people that are behind the barricades on the departure level, but several. About 100 of them have crossed over and are just basically waiting to be arrested.

[Joe Soucheray]

Speaking of the protesters, my favorite photo, or excuse me, video from last night was the band of people that were playing instruments outside of the Graduate Hotel in Minneapolis trying to disrupt JD Was that last night? Last night trying to disrupt.

[John Hines]

Well, because it also was last week.

[Joe Soucheray]

Trying to disrupt J.D. vance's sleep that they thought they were doing.

[John Hines]

Meanwhile, I doubt if he slept here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jesus H. Christ.

[John Hines]

Yeah, well. Now, are you gonna interrupt?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I just. I was gonna say he was already.

[Chris Reavers]

Back at D.C. right, right. But I appreciate the effort that they made playing some poor music.

[John Hines]

Well, tell me I'm wrong. Look at who we've elected to the city councils and the mayors in the two cities.

[Joe Soucheray]

But isn't that.

[John Hines]

Look who's the governor.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's the whole point, Joe.

[John Hines]

What is the point?

[Joe Soucheray]

There isn't local government that's gonna step in and take care of this problem.

[John Hines]

Okay, that. I can make that part of my point, although it's not the main point, is you are dealing in the metro area with a core ideology of complete contempt for this country. Complete contempt. And you are seen as the dark, evil agents of an immoral and unethical president, which he happens to be.

[Joe Soucheray]

So doesn't that make the presence of ice almost necessary.

[John Hines]

A professional behaving. Ice. Yes. I believe that ICE must do what they're doing. They got Minnesota completely wrong. Somebody correct me.

[John Height]

No.

[Chris Reavers]

They should have done their homework on Nakima.

[John Hines]

They had no idea what they were walking into. They should have done their homework on her. We've been swirling down the drain since 2020. They don't know that.

[Joe Soucheray]

We'Ve been getting robbed blind.

[John Hines]

You got a governor here who's looked the other way on billions and billions of dollars of stolen money. We've got city councils who are rabidly pro immigrant. They don't believe in illegal immigrants. It necessarily logically follows. They don't even believe in borders. I don't know how much clearer it can be. And for their sake, for the sake of the health of ICE people and for the sake of the health of Minnesotans, an entirely new approach has to be created. This doesn't work. Now, I shall say it's working, but I don't know if I believe their numbers. Well, we've arrested, what, 10,000 people since November? Really? So how's everybody?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, okay, let me. Since you brought up numbers, what numbers would you trust?

[John Hines]

I don't care anymore, Chris. You keep asking me questions. It just pissed me off.

[Joe Soucheray]

What?

[John Hines]

You're just. You're just sitting there like an idiot asking me stupid questions. Do you think 10,000 people have been arrested since November in Minnesota?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think if we still try to operate a status quo, we're kidding ourselves, is my point. And you know what? I'll just set this blank.

[John Hines]

Okay? You just said what I said you can't operate status quo.

[Joe Soucheray]

I meant at the state level, not the federal level. That's what I meant.

[John Hines]

As far as state government in Minnesota.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's a joke.

[John Hines]

Okay, I'd like to finish a thought. You've said, I'd like to finish a thought.

[Joe Soucheray]

Go ahead.

[John Hines]

The state government, most principally, its chief officer, the governor, the mayors of both the two largest cities in the state, and the city councils in both cities are ideologically predisposed to resist ICE with all of their might, period. ICE should have figured that out. ICE should have factored that into their planning. Their seemingly willy nilly appearance on streets shooting tear gas at people is not going to work. And I wish it would stop before somebody else gets shot. Either an ICE agent or a protester, because that's inevitable. The way this is going is not good. It's time for it to end. Let them go back to headquarters, start over. Don't tell us when you Come back. You're coming back with specific plans, not this scattergun approach hoping you grab someone by the tail of their coat. That's not gonna work. You're not allowed to ask a question? No, you're not allowed.

[Joe Soucheray]

I agree.

[John Hines]

Oh, you agree with that?

[Chris Reavers]

Okay, so we had a comment, not a question.

[John Hines]

Yeah. So we can either end the show now or keep going.

[Joe Soucheray]

Kenny, it's my day today to get yelled at.

[John Height]

Apparently.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm not in a mood to fight, but.

[John Hines]

Well, there's nothing to fight about.

[Kenny Olson]

I just.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's too cold to fight.

[John Hines]

What did I say?

[Kenny Olson]

That's not true of what you said. I'm not going to fight with you, Joe.

[John Hines]

Well, I'd like to argue with you. Let's not fight. Tell me what I said is wrong. I think there's no government leadership. There's no city leadership. There's no city council leadership.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can I try?

[John Hines]

You have a city councilwoman in, Robin Wansley, who is angry at any Democrat who might say, let's tone it down a little.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm not going to argue about that.

[John Hines]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Your views on ice, I think are wrong.

[John Hines]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

I think if they leave now, it's going to hand that side of victory.

[Joe Soucheray]

I agree with Kenny. That's, I guess, the point I was trying to make.

[Kenny Olson]

I think that your observations are your observ reservations, and you don't really know what's going on inside of ice. We posted a video yesterday of a very boring ICE arrest. That's how most of these are going. I've witnessed a couple ICE arrests on the freeways in the morning. They're very boring. Where protesters aren't involved, they're boring. You can argue about the way the ICE treats the protesters, and that's absolutely your right to. But the courts are involved here. Whether that's good or bad, protectors will.

[John Hines]

Become involved at every single opportunity. It's unlikely they can be involved on the side of the freeway.

[Chris Reavers]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

Wait, repeat that.

[John Hines]

I didn't get ice. Protesters will be involved at every chance they get. They won't be involved gratefully on the side of a freeway.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

So what is your. Seriously, what is your summary or what? What is your recommendation to ice?

[John Hines]

I don't think he has. No, I'm not. He doesn't have.

[Kenny Olson]

Not a law enforcement guy.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

I can't tell these guys what to do. It's like telling. Telling guys in war what to do.

[John Hines]

I feel terribly comfortable telling them what.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm a civilian.

[John Hines]

Yes. You know why? It's just because I'm a mayor, damn it.

[Kenny Olson]

Just because I support them doesn't mean I enjoy. See, you know, I've been saying it all along. This is bad optics, you guys. This doesn't look good, but I think the protesters are making it a lot worse.

[John Hines]

And I think I just explained to.

[Kenny Olson]

You why I don't think leaving Joe is the correct answer.

[John Hines]

That's the only answer I have.

[Kenny Olson]

I think that hands the bad guys a victory and then crime wins.

[Chris Reavers]

So for middle ground, do you. So we would agree with Kenny that.

[Kenny Olson]

There are many arrests I'm not interested in taking sides against.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm just saying. I'm saying. Your point is there's many arrests that have gone unnoticed because there. There were clean and I'm sure there have been. The ones that are getting notarized are the ones where the protesters or somebody's running or the five year old kids.

[Joe Soucheray]

I played the video either Tuesday or earlier this week of the guy saying, you're protesting us. We're trying to apprehend a child rapist and you people are standing in the way.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay, that's.

[Joe Soucheray]

I guess that was my point when I said that to Joe earlier.

[John Hines]

Well, I hope I've made it clear. I get it, that I want rapists.

[Chris Reavers]

You want the molesters to run free is what you're saying.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, And I believe that you do want that. I guess. But my point is Kenny's right. If all of a sudden we just.

[Kenny Olson]

Wave the white flag, I'm very uncomfortable telling law enforcement what to do. And that includes first. I don't want to lump you in, Joe, with these people that want to get rid of the Minneapolis Police Department.

[John Hines]

I don't want to. I never even intimated that.

[Kenny Olson]

No, it's kind of the feeling.

[John Hines]

Let me, let me. Let me try it this way.

[Kenny Olson]

I couldn't tell Minneapolis how to do the PD to do their job. St. Paul. I can't tell ICE how to do their job.

[John Hines]

Let me. Let me try it this way.

[Chris Reavers]

I would tell Tim Flynn how to do his job.

[John Hines]

Why don't you be quiet? Let me tell you this way. Let's. You can't help yourself. Let's say there's no ICE in town. Whatever. What. What towns do we have here? They are towns in decline in my estimation. This is only my opinion as a fake mayor. We have two towns in serious decline because we have a serious. We're a cauldron of political ideology that does not believe in the things that keeps towns alive.

[Kenny Olson]

Fair.

[John Hines]

Right? And. Oh, I said right. I apologize. We're A political. We're a cauldron of political activism in the Twin Cities that are seeing the towns decline because the people we've elected don't believe in the things that make towns successful. And now people are. They've hitched their wagon to that belief. Ultimately it will be to their regret. But they have. And there's nothing that will anger the Twin Cities more than someone interfering with their belief, their virtue signaling belief that this country is unfair, it shouldn't have borders and no one's illegal and we're standing on stolen ground. That's become the mantra of the Twin Cities. Without ICE even being here. Without ICE being here. Now bring ICE in. What do you think was going to happen. Now? I'm not telling. I said a hundred times, I agree that ICE must exist. I happen to believe we should have a country. And a country needs borders. And you must enter this country only legally. I'm on board. But that horse left the barn years ago. So we're left with ICE in kind of a cleanup mode. All the time you're trying to clean up in the Twin Cities, which doesn't want to be cleaned up.

[Kenny Olson]

So back down and don't clean it up.

[John Hines]

No. Start over. And only come back without announcing your presence. Do what you gotta do. See you later. I gotta believe they have done that in some cases. I gotta believe that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Bradshawn Bryant. Can they help us?

[John Hines]

I might need him after this.

[Chris Reavers]

You can get in trouble, huh? I mean, where do you go?

[John Hines]

I don't see how I can say this any clearer. For God's sakes. And somehow it's interpreted as, I don't believe we should have ice. I didn't say that. I believe what ICE has to do. I believe in what they have to do Here is a unique situation. It's a unique situation. We've become unique in the country. I think the same thing would happen in Portland, Seattle, San Francisco. I think it was. I think ICE was shamed out of leaving Chicago last summer because they were meeting the same types of resistance. But, you know, Chicago's 10 million people.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, but then, Joe, if that happens, then you're just gonna encourage the people that are doing this more and more and more because they're going to win.

[John Hines]

You're not paying attention.

[Joe Soucheray]

Actually, I am.

[John Hines]

If they come back without announcement and they get Juan, who's wanted for aggravated rape, and they take Juan and leave, no protester is gonna know that. You still are gonna be left in a town full of political ideologues. But you're not Gonna have these dangerous illegals here.

[Kenny Olson]

We are paying attention, and we understand what you're saying. We disagree with you. That's all.

[Chris Reavers]

But are you saying that ICE needs to come back with. Minus the Keystone Cop type of.

[John Hines]

Yes. Okay. Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Keystone Cop. Really?

[John Hines]

Yeah, I think they're behaving.

[Kenny Olson]

They're like running into each other, Right?

[John Hines]

Well, the little guy fired a tear gas canister the other day. Didn't auto. He didn't ought to pull the pin. It took him a while. And then when he threw it, the wind blew it back in his face. Like the ashes being blown back into Jeff Bridges face on. What the hell movie was that?

[Kenny Olson]

Poor Donnie.

[John Hines]

Yeah. Donnie's ashes blew right back in Lebowski's face.

[Kenny Olson]

One of the greatest scenes of all cinema history.

[Chris Reavers]

Out of the coffee can.

[John Hines]

This is. This is. This is a great weather for body guys like Schoonover. Yeah. You know, your car's at risk every time you leave. If you get in an accident, God forbid, get ahold of somebody that knows how to handle the insurance agents. That's Bradshaw and Bryant. Personal injury attorneys, insurance companies and adjusters can be tough to deal with. So you need somebody on your side. Mike Bryant from Bradshaw and Bryant puts together a team. They're there to explain your rights, represent you, and help you through a tough time. Bradshaw and Bryant hopes you're never in an accident, but if you are, call Bradshaw and Bryant at 800-770-7008 or go to MinnesotaTapersonAlinjury.com for a free case evaluation. And Bradshawn Bryan says, don't be part of the problem. Don't text and drive. Or drive. Distracted. That's just common sense. From Bradshaw and Bryant. Right, right, right. There's that word again. Right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Are they able to. I was thinking about this. Are they able to adjust as their remaining presence here in the Twin Cities?

[John Hines]

Bradshaw and Bryant, no ice.

[Joe Soucheray]

You said you want them to leave, reformulate their program and come back.

[John Hines]

Maybe I'm naive. Maybe they can't do that. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because I think the mistake you're making with this logic is that if they leave, come back unannounced, there won't be any protests, which I have a hard time believing that will happen.

[Kenny Olson]

Me not having any experience in law enforcement. I just came up with a wonderful idea, and it was inspired by what happened at the hotel last night. Tell us again, Chris, what happened? They were out there playing.

[Joe Soucheray]

There was probably a brass band playing 50. So people playing all sorts of instruments outside of the Graduate Hotel. Sub zero weather, thinking they were going to harass Vice President Vance from being able to get any sleep.

[John Hines]

And where was he meanwhile?

[Joe Soucheray]

He was already back in Washington.

[Kenny Olson]

Remember it during, before.

[John Hines]

They're young ideological activists from the failed academy. They don't contribute anything that will make these cities successful. Nothing. I just think ice. I think ICE walked into something they weren't prepared for.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let me try one more time. May I? I know you. I know what you're answering.

[John Hines]

Yes, go ahead, Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

Remember the run up to the election where we were pretty much all in agreement that. Well, I don't want to speak for everybody. We were under the agreement that Trump is basically the only thing standing in front of the mystery. Right. Was that a safe way to put it?

[John Hines]

The way I always said it was. The both parties failed miserably to. To deliver a real candidate.

[Joe Soucheray]

No question. But Trump was basically the only option standing in front of the mystery.

[John Hines]

Well, by accident, he's anti mysterious.

[Joe Soucheray]

Fine, I'll take that right now. Because of how we're governed at the state level, at the local level, every walk of life here, we're under the DFL trifecta in the state. This is basically the only thing that we have that can help combat the massive amount of fraud that is taking place in this state. Granted.

[John Hines]

I get it, boy, you lost me because you pivoted to fraud.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's why they're here. That's the whole mission of why they're here in the first place.

[John Hines]

No, it isn't. It might have initially been until they realized many of the fraudsters are merely American citizens. Now they're looking elsewhere. They're not rounding up Somalian fraudsters.

[Joe Soucheray]

My point is that was the intention behind this. No.

[John Hines]

I thought, well, okay, you're entitled to that view of it. My view would be that it was Trump's idea to stick it to walls by sending the troops here because of the fraud. Okay, all right. But they haven't really done any. If anything, they've handed walls a bejeweled gift. Fraud is on the back porch. It's not only cooled off, it's been forgotten. There's no connection to what's taking place in the streets today. And fraud, none.

[John Height]

Okay.

[John Hines]

Well, debate me. What's the connection?

[Joe Soucheray]

Because I don't agree that the people that were committing the fraud are here legally. I don't agree with that at all.

[John Hines]

In fact, I don't know either. Okay. I don't know either.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[John Hines]

Okay, okay.

[John Height]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

You going to twins festival?

[John Hines]

We were damn near rid of walls until Trump intervened. He's got this belief that Blue State should be punished and none punished more stridently than Minnesota because Walz had a field day running for vice president. And this is the result. And I just continue to maintain ICE didn't know what they were walking into. There is no leadership in this state at any level who would be friendly to the notions of ice. None. They're on their own. They're struggling.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right.

[Kenny Olson]

I think everybody agrees with that, Joe. I mean, we're all nodding our head vigorously, but I would not prefer them to stand down against these people. Somebody needs to stand up against them.

[John Hines]

I'm not saying stand down. I'm saying reform and do it in a way that might be proved to be more effective.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what I'd love to talk about? You bringing up walls. Is Amy filing and our future. Yeah. Oh, boy is right, Chris. Oh, boy is right. We can't be worse than Walsh at this point. We have to talk about what you've been bringing up here the last 35 minutes. Democratic policies got us into the position we're in. It's not just Governor Walz, it's everybody.

[John Hines]

They're not Democratic policies. That's a problem.

[Kenny Olson]

Socialist policies, they're democratic.

[John Hines]

Socialist policies.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what we need to focus on if we want to change in the state. And Amy's a strong candidate.

[John Hines]

I'm reasonably confident in assuming Amy said to walls, you're not running.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Hines]

Somebody's got to be running their ship.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[John Hines]

By the way, today is a day when many people have chosen to close their businesses.

[Joe Soucheray]

ICE out.

[John Hines]

I said a week ago, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[Chris Reavers]

Yep.

[John Hines]

Well, for this reason, who are they intending to impress? Do you think ICE cares if some knitting store closed or a little restaurant or a coffee shop or an art gallery? You think A, ICE won't know you're closed, and B, what. What are you attempting to accomplish? You're just saying we'll show you. We're not gonna make any money today.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you see the video footage of the guy leading this? He was standing on the stage handing out the pamphlets about how to conduct the ICE out.

[John Hines]

I don't understand the point. Adam Platt almost sounds like a G. L, er. I hope I'm not offending him.

[Joe Soucheray]

We've had Adam on.

[John Hines]

I know, by saying that. But he has a piece in the Business Journal today. I was alerted to it by Steve Mulholland in the Belly of the Beast. And Platt admits he's trying to make sense of the ever mounting list of businesses closing today in solidarity with what is a union led movement to shut down Minnesota's economies. And Platt writes, I've become increasingly confused. The effort seems designed to send a message to ice. The message, whatever harm you want to impose on our community, we can impose a bit more. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And then Platt writes, well, maybe it's not supposed to make sense. Maybe it's just a misdirected rage for a community under a sort of siege, struggling through a bad winter with the baddest of vibes. When I look at the list of businesses closing, I see mostly retailers and restaurants, businesses that are most vulnerable to sick outs, intimidation and social media misinformation. Well, Platt's right. There are also, fascinatingly, the businesses already suffering the most under ICE's extended Twin Cities residency. Anecdotal conversations indicate for those Citi retail businesses still operating normally, many cannot due to a loss of staff. Businesses down 40 to 60% for the month. Downtown and south Minneapolis businesses are the hardest hit. St. Paul is affected as well. Suburban businesses have experienced some erosion of staffing, but business is mostly held up. And he goes on and on to express exactly what I would express. I don't get the point of this. You're already struggling. Why would you enhance your struggling?

[Chris Reavers]

It's precious.

[John Hines]

Gabe, is there a Vietnamese restaurant in St. Paul where the staff members are living in hotels or should I not say that? What's the context? Well, they're afraid to go home. I would say that might be a good assumption. All right. Well, is that business open today? Yes. Good. It's open. I'm tempted to want to never do business with a business that closes. Not because of ICE or anything. I just don't want to do business with somebody that's stupid. What is the point? The point is that it fits perfectly in the paradigm of the political cauldron. We find ourselves in the same people who don't believe anyone is illegal and that we shouldn't have borders and that we're on stolen land. Many of those people also run businesses and it's very easy for them to be shamed by the mere fact that they have an income. So we'll close. We'll close, sure. Who in the hell are you impressing?

[Chris Reavers]

I live with someone whose relatives grew up on the stolen land and I know that she wants all the businesses open because it's stupid to close them for this reason.

[John Hines]

I'll believe the stolen land BS when I see the people seeing it start to Give land back.

[Chris Reavers]

That ain't happening.

[John Hines]

Starting with the U of M. Give it all back.

[Chris Reavers]

That's some nice real estate.

[John Hines]

Are you having trouble with this one too?

[John Height]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can I share with you an email?

[John Hines]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hans, you're the best.

[John Hines]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

So let me get this straight. Check this out. The guy that wants to reorganize ice operations is the same guy that offered up self sanding shoes on yesterday's Garage Logic podcast? Yes. Yes, it is the same person we're trying to deliver.

[John Hines]

That's it. And that's it. And just think when you're driving home.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, do you turn your left turn signal on and then turn right?

[John Hines]

Just think if you could wear self sanding shoes, no ice, you wouldn't fall down.

[Joe Soucheray]

No ice.

[John Hines]

No ice. No ice there.

[Chris Reavers]

Self sanding shoes.

[John Hines]

I think it would work.

[Joe Soucheray]

Were you gone by that?

[Chris Reavers]

I think I was gone by that.

[John Hines]

Oh yeah, well I told you, I.

[Chris Reavers]

Don'T know that you need to replace it.

[John Hines]

No, no, no.

[Kenny Olson]

Because you need context.

[John Hines]

No, no, you need context and you'll back me up. Do you remember years ago I tried to invent shoes that were self salting? I said, okay, well some guy in Florida ripped me off and he said, yeah, you idea. That's my idea, man. And he comes up with, you wear a backpack full of sand and you got two tubes running down to your crotch. And he will. Great idea. And as your, as your foot hits the ground, it emits a spray of sand.

[Chris Reavers]

Chicks. Chicks really love that.

[John Hines]

They would love that.

[Chris Reavers]

They really. It's a good look for some. You look like a bank robber. So you're not getting any second looks.

[John Hines]

Well, anyway, there was.

[Chris Reavers]

Where do you get the sand?

[John Hines]

I can get you sand.

[Chris Reavers]

I got you.

[John Hines]

That's not a problem.

[Kenny Olson]

Or grit.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, and this from Jordy. Oh, no, I'm not going to do that one.

[Kenny Olson]

I have a question. How come all the colder than phrases are all semi vulgar? Colder than a witch's bosom?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Hines]

Cold.

[Kenny Olson]

Would it be a well digger's backhand?

[John Hines]

Isn't that true? Hotter too.

[Kenny Olson]

Hotter than a. Colder than you've heard of.

[John Hines]

Cold enough to freeze the balls on a brass monkey.

[Kenny Olson]

And you know where that phrase came from?

[John Hines]

I don't.

[Joe Soucheray]

The beastie.

[John Hines]

Nautical shipping.

[Kenny Olson]

Nautical. Oh, evidently the old ships that had.

[Chris Reavers]

These cannons, they had these monkeys on.

[Kenny Olson]

Them sticking out the side of them, had these bowls that were made of brass and the cannonballs sat in the bowl. It got cold. The cannons allegedly are the balls that allegedly fell out. That's allegedly where the story well, for.

[John Hines]

Pete's sake, that's pretty interesting.

[Kenny Olson]

It is. And the reason I so fascinated with it today that at one point this morning on the Twin Cities freeway system, when it was 21 below, we had up to five semis either completely stalled out or hobbling along on the shoulder due to diesel fuel gelling up 17 degrees. 17 degrees is where diesel turns into jello, basically. So I'm wondering, will Seafoam help this situation? I can't say for sure.

[John Hines]

I was going to seriously ask you if there was a product from Seafoam that would prevent that.

[Kenny Olson]

I wanted to say that Seafoam will stop this. I looked it up on seafoamworks.com and here's their very honest answer. As far as diesel gelling goes, yes, Seafoam motor treatment does will help, but if it's less than 10 above, be sure to use anti gel diesel fuel or anti gel treatment that's specialized for colder temps. Diesel starts to gel at 17 degrees, so look for a product that lowers the pour point beyond the temps you anticipate. That's a good honest answer from Seafoam for you diesel owners. Of course, most of you already know that. As for the rest of us, you know, I just have regular pump gas in my truck. Wait, how many trucks do I own? Three. I own three and all three got a big heavy pour of Seafoam a couple of days ago. That's why all three are starting and running today in the 20 below weather. A wonderful product in a world of bad gas and 20 below weather. Seafoam.

[John Height]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hines]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hines]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Here's a man who spends hours in.

[John Hines]

Hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life. Joe Sucere. Have I heard this before? Huh? I sure wish I had. I think she's a beauty.

[Kenny Olson]

It's having a calming effect.

[John Hines]

Is this Dylan?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, they all are.

[John Hines]

Well, where's this Ben?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[John Hines]

Well, make sure I hear it again.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where's your water bed?

[Kenny Olson]

This is the last cigarette before bedtime music.

[John Hines]

This really is. Don't. Don't start talking yet. Turn this up.

[Chris Reavers]

The smoke.

[Kenny Olson]

It's been a long day. Had some ups, had some downs.

[Joe Soucheray]

Joe yelled at me again.

[Kenny Olson]

Just happy to be alive and hopefully wake up alive in the morning. Here's Chris Kenny.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you smoke after sex?

[John Hines]

Kenny?

[Kenny Olson]

I smoke during sex.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[John Hines]

I never looked.

[Chris Reavers]

Thanks, John.

[John Hines]

I had one of the uncles. He smoked while he was eating.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, that would just ruin the taste. Oh, Jimmy.

[Kenny Olson]

Remember Joe, when you could sit in an airplane and smoke and eat all at the same time?

[John Hines]

One of the greatest pleasures in life was going off on a Sunday morning with the Sunday paper, a cup of coffee and smoking in the airplane.

[Chris Reavers]

And isn't it funny that to cover.

[John Hines]

A Vikings game which they probably lost.

[Chris Reavers]

And the aircraft, that little metal tube had smoking and non smoking like it made a difference? Yes, yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wait, you would leave for a Vikings game on Sunday morning?

[John Hines]

Sure. Really? If it was Cleveland Or Chicago.

[Kenny Olson]

Is this discussion sponsored by Hoffman Water?

[John Hines]

Oh, it is, Kenny. You know what?

[Joe Soucheray]

And that's the thing. If you want to put up.

[Chris Reavers]

I want clear ice cubes.

[Joe Soucheray]

If you want to put out that cigarette on an airplane, get some ice cubes from Hofferman Water and Connecticut. You know what I'm seriously going to consider with my brand new state of the art water system. You told me that you have a personalized. No, you have a personalized ice cube maker. I want one. I'm not joking. I want one.

[Chris Reavers]

I got it as a gift from my daughter Sophia. And it has changed. Forget the refrigeration crap. This thing works solid. But you don't want to put tap water in there unless it's filtered.

[Joe Soucheray]

See Offerman Water and Kinetico. Laundry's better. Joe, check mark.

[Chris Reavers]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Cooking's better. Showers are better.

[Chris Reavers]

Ice cubes, laundries are better.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reavers]

You know, you've been talking about Reavers, was talking about ice, and you've been talking about this boring ice thing all morning and afternoon. What is your perfect ice cube? Seriously, It's Friday afternoon.

[John Hines]

Crush.

[Chris Reavers]

What is your perfect ice cube?

[John Hines]

You know, I've never thought about it. I don't really give a bleep.

[Kenny Olson]

I think it's a really good question. I am vehemently opposed to crush ice. I wonder. Big, heavy, thick cubes.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm a cubed guy as well.

[John Hines]

And not well, I would say then as long as you're forcing me into this ridiculous. You know, the clearer the cube, the better.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, a man after my own ice cream.

[Joe Soucheray]

By the way. You know what? One thing I didn't mention with hot from the water in Connecticut, was that you guys so rudely interrupted my ad. Yeah, coffee is better. My mom, who's the biggest coffee, I.

[John Hines]

Would imagine that's true because water is.

[Joe Soucheray]

Very crucial, brought her custom roasting pack when she was watching Leela last week and she said, I like making coffee your house because your water is the best.

[Kenny Olson]

And here's Joe with advice on how to make the best cup of coffee.

[Chris Reavers]

I know what he's gonna say.

[John Hines]

No, I'll tell you a story on myself though. Here we go. We were in the presence of a five year old who was angry at her mother because the mother wasn't being subservient enough to the five year old's demands regarding what dinner was. She had a plate of dinner in front of her, but she didn't like it and she said, well, if my mother isn't gonna feed me, I'll just do it myself. Oh boy. So she got up five years old, got an egg out of the refrigerator, dug around where the pans are, got a frying pan out, got a bowl to break the egg into, at which point the CP just threw up her hands and said, she's far superior to anything you've ever done in a kitchen.

[Kenny Olson]

How did they turn it on you? How did they turn that on you?

[John Hines]

Because the biggest problem in my life is that I don't cook. And that's a real, real serious problem. And every time you open your mouth, I get in trouble. Every time you open your mouth, I get in trouble.

[Chris Reavers]

I've tried to help you. You're no.

[John Hines]

And I'm worthless. I'm hopeless. And here's a five year old who's gonna make herself a scrambled egg.

[Joe Soucheray]

When you were watching this, when you were watching this transpired as you go, hey, wait a minute here. Can you make me some pepper steak?

[John Hines]

Well, this kid, she's the most. She's the best. Worst kid in the world. She is the hands down the best. She's the worst kid in the world, but she's the best. Does that make sense?

[Chris Reavers]

I think I follow you.

[John Hines]

She's the best. Worst kid in the world.

[Joe Soucheray]

She's the common man of kids.

[John Hines]

She, she is, she is an endless story. An endless story. This kid is just the greatest and she's got me in terrible trouble.

[Chris Reavers]

It's just going to get better or worse.

[John Hines]

That's the end of the story. I just stood there or sat there with my head down. I was shamed.

[Chris Reavers]

Your mouth agape?

[John Hines]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Going. How did she do that?

[John Height]

Yeah. You think that's bad? Wait till you see the emails you get after that first segment today.

[John Hines]

Yeah, I don't care.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, let's stick to ice cubes.

[John Height]

Would you like me to do some news?

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John Height.

[John Hines]

Yeah, here's Johnny.

[John Height]

I was ready 15 minutes ago.

[John Hines]

Yeah, here's Johnny. We got nothing but time today. We don't have Patrick.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. We got monitoring twins.

[Chris Reavers]

How you doing?

[John Hines]

Good.

[John Height]

This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. Before I do news, let me tell you something. I know Chris was yelled at at about about 15 different things at the beginning of the show.

[John Hines]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Yeah. One of them was the number of defendants in Feeding Our Future who are US Citizens.

[John Hines]

I would imagine quite a few.

[John Height]

It's a very high number. As of Dec. 18, 82 of the 92 were U.S. citizens. Of the Somali defendants.

[Joe Soucheray]

I stand corrected.

[John Height]

And speaking of Feeding Our Future, a federal judge has approved the sale of a million dollar Brooklyn park property to be used for restitution. In that case, according to court documents, 8432 Noble Avenue north in Brooklyn park is tied to defendants Ahmed Sharif, Omar Hashim, Abdi Nur Salah, Abdi Kikam. No, I'm sorry. Abdi Hakim Ali Ahmed Ahmed Mohammed Artan and Abdelkadeer Anishai Muhammad. And a third party property owner, 5A's Projects. The money used to buy the property is tied to fraud. According to Hennepin county property records. The group brought the property, bought it. Excuse me. For $1 million in 2021. An assessor determined the parcel had a property value of $994,500 in 2024. The property was formerly home of the restaurant and bar Kelly's 19th hole, which operated for 38 years before it closed in 2020. The five defendants have all entered guilty pleas but haven't yet been sentenced. Total of 78 people have so far been charged in the Feeding Our Future scheme.

[John Hines]

Is it on a golf course? Not that I am sound like a golf course clubhouse.

[John Height]

It would make sense. Kelly's 19th hole. As you guys said earlier, Senator Amy Klobuchar took the first step yesterday toward a run for Minnesota governor by filing campaign paperwork. She is the first Democratic candidate to form a gubernatorial candidate committee since Tim Walls announced earlier this month he would not seek reelection. And according to Minnesota Campaign Finance Board record spokesperson for Klobuchar said this is a preliminary step necessary for any candidate considering a run. The Senator will make an announcement of her plans in the coming days. Klobuchar, of course, has a strong track record in statewide elections. According to data from the Secretary of State's office, she's netted at least 56% of the vote in all of her successful campaigns since 2006. Almost a dozen Republicans have already announced a run for the Republican nomination.

[Joe Soucheray]

So, John, will Omar Fateh be her Lieutenant Governor? Will he formulate his own campaign? Do you think?

[John Hines]

Amy's gotta be a bleep load better than walls, but will things change?

[Chris Reavers]

So John, did you just report that Amy has had four wins every time she went ran for an office?

[John Hines]

I don't think she ever lost anything.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, okay, so when she gets the governorship, will she appoint walls to her seat? Is that how that works?

[John Hines]

I think she'd be foolish too, but I would imagine that's not outside the realm of possibility.

[Chris Reavers]

My big worry is who can replace Tina Smith? I mean, how are you going to replace that?

[Joe Soucheray]

The work hasn't been done. The work hasn't been done.

[John Hines]

Was she fighting for us?

[Chris Reavers]

She was fighting.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a good question. Is Angie Craig gonna run the same ads when she's fighting fighting for us.

[John Hines]

When she's driving the four wheeler jeep down to Hastings?

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you fight a different way when you're running for a different office?

[John Hines]

Yeah. Different rules.

[Joe Soucheray]

Gotcha.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, she did fight with Emma on the floor. So she is fighting.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

Does the international scout stay with the Governor's mansion?

[John Hines]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Or it's a problem.

[John Hines]

There's no engine in it. Okay, it's a problem.

[Kenny Olson]

Otherwise he could put that thing down by the river and move into it.

[John Hines]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Chris Farley.

[John Hines]

I live in a van down by the river.

[John Height]

A story that may lend some credence to your theory, Joe, that ice might want to start over.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Remember the fellow brought out of his house and his boxers, Crocs and blankets in St. Paul?

[John Hines]

Yes, among elder, which really is disturbing because the guy was only 55 and he's called an elder.

[Chris Reavers]

Right.

[John Height]

Well, one of the fellows they were looking for, it turns out out if they'd looked in prison here, they'd have found him.

[John Hines]

Really?

[John Height]

Boy, 52 year old Lua Mo Mao, who has felony convictions dating back to 1992 of fifth degree criminal sexual conduct, kidnapping and violating a parental custody order, has been incarcerated Minnesota corrections facility faribault since September 4, 2024.

[John Hines]

Good Lord.

[John Height]

Expected release date is January 7, 2027. No work, no shopping, no dining out. You guys talked about this? Hundreds of businesses.

[John Hines]

This is ridiculous.

[John Height]

Many people vowed to pause everyday activities as part of a general strike against the Trump administration's immigration crackdown. At last count, the list was a little over 400 businesses, most of them in St. Paul and Minneapolis, but a few in the suburbs. As tensions mount and sense of fear of detention by immigration agents permeates the state, the vendors, labor unions and residents said they'd take part in what they're calling a day of truth and freedom.

[John Hines]

If you close your business today, you just didn't want to work today, period.

[John Height]

It's cold.

[John Hines]

It's cold.

[Chris Reavers]

I know. The Blue Door pub is open if you're looking for Good Burger.

[John Hines]

Thanks, Matt.

[Joe Soucheray]

He works in a plug.

[John Hines]

God almighty. What do you get, 50 cents off?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, they were. They were coming under major heat because they weren't closing. They said, we're not going to close.

[John Height]

Why would you.

[John Hines]

Do you think Trump cares if your business closed? Do you think ICE cares? No. Do you think Bovino cares?

[Chris Reavers]

Nope.

[Joe Soucheray]

Question for you about them, as long as you brought them up, Brooke, is the one that's by your old theater. Is that one closed, that Blue Door, Correct?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, okay.

[Chris Reavers]

There's one in Minneapolis and then there's one at.

[Kenny Olson]

Is it 42nd, Matthew?

[Chris Reavers]

I believe so. It's right by the school.

[John Hines]

Wait a minute.

[Kenny Olson]

That was my son's elementary school. Sanford.

[John Hines]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Sanford elementary.

[John Hines]

Yes. Is Selby closed?

[Chris Reavers]

Selby has been closed for a while.

[John Hines]

Yes. For Pete's sake.

[Kenny Olson]

I do have another question for Matthew. When you walk into one of these establishments, do you greet the maitre d with, hi, I'm the rook. I gave you a free plug yesterday.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's got his T shirt on. The rookie.

[Chris Reavers]

Kenny Joe has summarized it My life completely and very accurately, where he has said, you are America's guest.

[John Hines]

Yeah. Have you guys ever had a sandwich from a place called Potbellies? Oh, yes, sure. Yeah. Well, I do, too. I went there yesterday. Closed, done, out of business.

[Joe Soucheray]

ICE out.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, no. Out of business is done. Yeah, yeah, that's closed.

[John Hines]

What the heck?

[Chris Reavers]

Not ICE related.

[John Hines]

No, it had nothing to do with ice.

[John Height]

They didn't close around the Twin Cities, did they? We have one up here. I haven't been there in a while.

[Chris Reavers]

No, I think this was just specific to the Highlands.

[John Hines]

Well, for Pete's sake.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wait, so are you saying that you were on your own for dinner last night?

[John Hines]

Yeah, so I ended up going to Jersey Mike's.

[Kenny Olson]

Since we're way off the rails. Have you ever had something called a pot sticker?

[John Hines]

Yes, I have, and I'm not a fan, of course.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, pot stickers.

[John Hines]

Not a fan, Matt.

[Kenny Olson]

Name of it is off putting. That's very off putting.

[John Hines]

And I've had them. And yet I would be. I'd be. I couldn't tell you what they are the greatest. What are they?

[Kenny Olson]

You know, in this instance, Joe and I are side by side, arm in arm, kissing each other on the earlobe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Kiss on ice. This is what we're aligning ourselves for.

[John Hines]

What is a potch?

[Chris Reavers]

If you can give me a better description, Gabe, I will say it is a dough based item that's filled with pork, maybe vegetables. It could be like potatoes, cheese. They're great, but it's there. And the best, the best capture of anybody eating a delicious, delicious. What do you call them?

[John Hines]

Pot sticker.

[Chris Reavers]

Sticker is in my favorite year when they're having the Chinese.

[John Hines]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Chris Reavers]

He is. He is just chowing on the pot sticker.

[John Hines]

I thought it was a new item. I didn't know.

[Kenny Olson]

What kind of damage do these things do to the bathroom about 12 hours later?

[Chris Reavers]

You know what you want to be. You want to send the family out for a nice walk or maybe some dessert for 43, 44 minutes? Yeah. You have some alone time.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can I tell you all something? You know when my man Matthew is engaged in a topic, when you get this, he's doing this, right? Or he's. Whatever he's doing. And you hear this when he takes off the glasses and he looks right in the camera. You're about to get some truth now.

[John Hines]

And what you hear is gonna be the truth.

[Chris Reavers]

What do you want to know? We're not screwing around.

[Kenny Olson]

No, he's truth bombing all over the place.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's about to go down.

[John Hines]

We got taxes here. Let's go.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's going on with these people?

[Chris Reavers]

Arresting people? You know, you go to food, I'm like, okay, now it's my turn.

[Joe Soucheray]

When he takes the glasses off, he means effing business, man.

[John Hines]

You took food. I can see clearly now. The glasses gone.

[Kenny Olson]

It's almost like the judge at the bench reading something takes him off. It's time to get serious.

[John Hines]

What did you say, defendant?

[John Height]

You.

[Chris Reavers]

Did you disrespect me?

[John Height]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, oh, I knew. I knew. The second year, you're not supposed to even be looking.

[Chris Reavers]

I know. Watch. My favorite year, if you haven't seen it, it's one of the greatest eating.

[Joe Soucheray]

When the glasses came off, I knew it was about to get serious.

[Kenny Olson]

It's about to go down.

[John Hines]

I don't know why. I. I just don't know why I Tried.

[John Height]

I'm glad you brought it up. Now I'm hungry for pot stickers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I do like pot stickers.

[John Height]

Those are good, too. Order from bottom, why don't we.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here we go.

[John Height]

You know, take a quick break here.

[John Hines]

And has John even done any news yet?

[John Height]

I did like three stories. I got four or five more locals.

[John Hines]

Take those glasses off.

[Chris Reavers]

Tell us about, well, restaurant closing, some ice and. Yeah, you know, if you're, if you set your temperature at 75 degrees for the house and your wife calls you and says it's only at about 65 right now, you may want to call Welter. I might be calling Welter here pretty quick.

[John Hines]

Even I think 75 is too warm.

[Chris Reavers]

I got the report she knocked it up to 75. It's. It can't keep up right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's too hot.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, well, Welter heating can certainly help you with all of your boiler needs, all of your heating needs and your air conditioning. But let's talk about heating right now. It's very important.

[John Hines]

75 is a perfect air conditioning number.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, that's very true. So if you want 75 degrees in July, you're going to call Welter. If you want at least 70 degrees when it's the middle of January, you need to call Welter. For over almost 120 years, four generations of Welter family certified techs, their Twin Cities most trusted H vac services are at the Ray N Welter heating company. They're locally here. They serve the Twin Cities metropolitan area and have for again close to 120 years. Rick and the whole crew over at Welter, they want you to go to their website, welterheating.com check out their blog. You might get something answered for free or have some pretty good ideas. But if you can't figure out what's going on, dial 612-825-6867. A human being answers during business hours and they will treat you well. If you want to wrap up the Welter spot, you just give them the wrap up size. But I'll tell you online, welterheating.com they're here for you 24. 7. Joe, if you're hungry for some heat, check out. I get the thumbs up from that. Yeah, check out Welter heat up your shelter with the fine folks from Ray N Welter.

[Joe Soucheray]

Johnny.

[John Height]

Thank you, Rook.

[Chris Reavers]

Thanks, John.

[John Height]

National and international news. A federal judge ruling this morning that President Trump's administration must keep federal funds flowing to child care subsidies and other social service programs in five Democratic controlled states, including Minnesota. At least for now. The ruling today from U.S. district Judge Vernon Broderick extends by two weeks, a temporary one issued earlier this month that blocked the federal government from holding back the money from California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota and New York. The judge said he'd decide later whether the money is to remain in place while a challenge to cutting it works its way through courts. President Trump yesterday inaugurated his Board of Peace to lead efforts at maintaining a ceasefire in Israel's war with Hamas, insisting that everyone wants to be a part of the body. Despite many US Allies opting not to take part. In a speech at the World Economic Forum, the president sought to create momentum for a project to map out a future of the war torn Gaza Strip. It's been overshadowed this week, first by his threats to seize Greenland, then by a dramatic retreat from that push. Others are asking why Vladimir Putin and other authoritarian leaders had been invited to join. Britain's Foreign Secretary, Yvette Cooper, said her country's not signing on because it's about a legal treaty that raises much broader issues. Norway and Sweden have indicated they won't take part, and France declined after its officials stressed while they support the Gaza peace plan, they were concerned the board could seek to replace the United Nations. Ukraine, China and the executive arm of the European Union also haven't committed. The president calling off the steep tariffs he threatened over Greenland could ease some allies reluctance, but the issues are still far from settled. Meanwhile, President Trump disinvited Canada from his Board of Peace days after Prime Minister Mark Carney gave a blistering speech in Switzerland warning of an era of great power rivalry and suggesting the US Led world order was over and not coming back.

[John Hines]

The first guy I think of if I'm putting together a Board of Peace is Putin. That's who I want. That's. That's who I want on the board.

[John Height]

Meanwhile, also in Switzerland, Jared Kushner unveiled his vision for post war Gaza in front of the audience. A map of Gaza was pulled up on the screen to show how it would be developed. It would be a coastal tourism zone that would run along the seafront long enough for up to 180 skyscrapers, many earmarked as hotels. A port was shown at the southwestern end of Gaza, alongside the border with Egypt and immediately inland from the port. The map showed a zoning for an airport. There's some problems with this at the moment. Of course there's the cost. Governments will make the first contributions, kushner said, with initial announcements to come at a conference in Washington in the next couple of weeks. He also appealed to the private sector to come forward, promising amazing investment opportunities. The other problem is the scale of the task is enormous. The presentation was scant on details about how it would all be realized. Two years of Israeli bombardment launched in response to Hamas's attack on April 7, 2023 has left more than 80% of Gaza's buildings damaged or destroyed. President Trump indulged in a midnight Truth social spree shortly after coming back from Switzerland where he railed a against political foes and promoted the First Lady's upcoming documentary. A flurry of more than 70 posts and reposts happened from midnight to one amount a minute. Yeah, more than one a minute. He traveled 4200 miles coming back from the World Economic Forum and did that. Truth Social is often the first port of call for the President to share major policy news that impacts Americans. In between launching attacks at longtime targets including Ilhan Omar, Joe Biden, Gavin Newsman Newsom and Kamala Harris, Trump took the time to promote the trailer for millennia, the 40 million dollar Amazon documentary centered on his wife. In the early hours of Friday, the President repeated false claims about the 2020 general election fraud.

[John Hines]

He must not sleep.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't think he does.

[John Height]

Three hours a night, I read is what he what he gets.

[Chris Reavers]

Any interest in seeing the Melania documentary? I would like to see that.

[John Hines]

Well, you would, wouldn't you? Yeah, I would.

[Chris Reavers]

I'd like to see what she's wearing.

[John Height]

Date night night.

[Joe Soucheray]

Will it be a date night?

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, I'll watch it with the bride.

[John Height]

Nice.

[John Hines]

You have to go to a theater. It's not on tv.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh wait.

[Chris Reavers]

I'll probably make her a nice dinner. Maybe a nice little little steak that I I sear and not looking with a little butter looking at you chives.

[John Hines]

John, continue please.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sure.

[John Height]

The United States and China have signed off on a deal that hands control of Tick Tock's U S operations to a group of investors backed by the President. TikTok said yesterday in news release a new company, TikTok USDS joint venture, would ensure the app continues to be available here in the US the company will operate under defined safeguards that protect national security through comprehensive data protections, algorithm security content moderation and software assurances for US users. According to the statement, ByteDance, TikTok's Beijing based owner, will retain a 19.9% stake in the US operation. The joint venture will be governed by a seven member board of directors.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's talk to Gabe. Gabe, is GL on Tick Tock?

[John Hines]

Yeah, we just started.

[Kenny Olson]

Is Krabby on Tick Tock.

[John Hines]

Not yet, but I can certainly do that.

[Kenny Olson]

When the government told me, I think this was. When was this? Last fall? Last summer? Last winter, that they were going to shut down Tick Tock. And even though I was vehemently opposed to Tick Tock Tock, the first thing I did was sign up for a Tick Tock account because I don't like being told what to do. When I found out that TikTok was going to stick around for a while, I shut down my account.

[John Hines]

Am I opposed to TikTok because we're on it now?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, you're not really opposed. You would be opposed to some of the dances and stuff that were on there. But Garage Logic is going to bring you information. Not just you. You twerking.

[Kenny Olson]

Gabe, what have you learned about the mayor and social media?

[John Hines]

I just tell him what's good. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. He'll tell you what to do and you do whatever the hell you want to. That's, that's, that's the secret.

[John Hines]

That's fine.

[Chris Reavers]

Not gonna verify it. I can guarantee you that.

[John Height]

A Canadian man posed as a commercial pilot and as a working flight attendant to obtain hundreds of free flights from U S Airlines, according to authorities. 33 year old Dallas Pokornick of Toronto, arrested in Panama after an indictment on wire fraud charges in federal court in Hawaii last October, pleaded not guilty this week following his extradition to the US According to court documents, Pokornick was a flight attendant for a Toronto based airline from 2017 to 2019. He then used fake employee ID from that carrier to obtain tickets reserved for pilots and flight attendants on three other airlines.

[Kenny Olson]

Nice.

[John Height]

US prosecutors said that McCornick even requested to sit in that extra seat in the cockpit, normally called the jump seat. It's normally reserved for off duty pilots. It was not clear from court documents whether he actually rode in a plane's cockpit. According to the U.S. attorney's office. The indictment did not identify the airlines that let him fly for free, except to say they're based in Honolulu, Chicago and Fort Worth, Texas. Representatives for Hawaiian Airlines, United Airlines and American Airlines, which are respectively based in those cities, wouldn't respond for comment from the Associated Press. The indictment also does not identify the Toronto based airline Air Canada, with headquarters in Montreal at a hub in Toronto, said in an email Wednesday it had no record of anyone named Pokornick having ever worked at the carrier. The whole scheme, according to U.S. prosecutors, lasted four years. A U.S. magistrate judge this week ordered him to remain in custody. His federal defender declined to comment.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't Know how he got cleared? Because if you have a jump seater, you have to clear what's called casts. They have to be vetted out in order for you to sit in the jumps. You can't just hop in there.

[John Hines]

Well, he did.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know how he did. Somebody was not paying attention.

[John Hines]

John, thank you.

[John Height]

Yep.

[John Hines]

Chris, thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Height]

And do not constitute investment advice.

[John Hines]

Chris Reavers is a paid endorser. Oh, yep, you're doing, you're doing a great job.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because we needed a scrap.

[John Hines]

Finally, thank God, today is Friday. Tgt.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

Joe Chris I knew a guy that would stop at a different liquor store every day to buy his bottle of hooch. He'd have a list on his dash and he'd just check them off every week so it didn't look like he was buying hooch from this, you know.

[John Hines]

Thursday morning All hail the Flashlight cake.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail.

[John Hines]

I didn't feel that at all. I just didn't feel that at all. All hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail you.

[John Hines]

Yep, hello Joe and gang. I should have read this earlier. It corroborates somewhat to some degree what I said at the outset of the show. I've enjoyed immensely listening to you guys almost daily since my dad introduced me to the radio show back in 2015. We are construction workers way up on the Iron Range, well separated from the sustainable urban core by three hours and always at least 10 to 15 degree difference in temperature. I don't always agree with everything on the show, but that's the way it should be. If we agreed on everything, it would be a cult. I've tried for a while, but I can't stay silent on this issue about our state. Probably the best way to describe it would be using an analogy. Think of our state as an inner city high school or perhaps an asylum. The students have overtaken every part of the school. They are setting up in the offices. They have the principal tied up in a storage room. They are beating each other in the halls and ransacking the place. They've found their way to the cafeteria food stash and have taken food and ordered a couple of truckloads more. They have somehow figured out how to access the bank account and have all the cash delivered to the front door. The teachers, whichever ones still show up, have given up up and joined in the mayhem. Finally, after several years of this, the local government decides that this is no way a school should be run. People are getting injured, property is being destroyed. The whole neighborhood is suffering. The state patrol is sent in to help to restore order. Upon seeing this, all the neighborhood parents become alarmed. They form a united citizens group to fend off the police and retain control of their precious school. In their minds, everything is as it should be at the school. Joe. Our state is much farther gone than we would like to admit. And it did not just happen in a couple of years. This has been decades in the making and is the result of terrible leadership and complacency from the rest of us. As long as it doesn't affect us personally, we've been content to go about our business and not bother anybody. The inmates have taken over the asylum in Minnesota. It is ignorant to think that any half measures will. We are happy to complain about things being bad. Then when a solution comes, we are not happy with that. I contend we don't deserve a solution and we will never get one. If we are content to wait another 10 to 20 years for it to show up in a perfect package that we can stomach with our discerning taste, it will be too late by then. It may be too late now. We can fuss about federal agents being here and believe every media report put out by the haters of this administration in particular, but JD Fantz was 100% correct when he said there would be no issue if local law enforcement was allowed to cooperate. Sadly, I'm not sure there's enough law enforcement left in the city to be able to cooperate even if they wanted to. I wish I had the answer, but at some point those of us who still think we are sane are going to have to embrace the fact that the insanity here has finally garnered national attention and at least something is happening. It's better than continuing down the same road we've been going down. To go back to my analogy, order has to be restored at the high school. There will have to be expulsions. There may have to be prosecutions. There could be no half measures with a situation that is completely out of control. Either you want it fixed or you don't. And this state has shown itself completely incapable of correcting course. I'd even go one step further. Further. How are there not criminal prosecutions for sheltering illegals in violation of federal law? Even one violent criminal offense that comes because of this is too much and the blame lies squarely on the white man in charge of the state and may I add the white liberals who put him there. A massive awakening is what everybody in this state needs and I hope we are getting it. Thank you for your attention to this matter. And that is Chris Ailsh from up North. Huh?

[Chris Reavers]

Pretty nice email.

[John Hines]

I think we've been saying the same.

[Chris Reavers]

Thing for Gotta get those high schools.

[John Hines]

Many no, he wasn't taught that was an analogy. Yeah, he was using that high schoolers get them out of there really had nothing to do with the High school.

[Chris Reavers]

You got to walk him.

[Joe Soucheray]

Not yet, anyway.

[John Hines]

Yep, coming over the hill, the traveling Lyman.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hang on, hang on. I got to have you do this one thing. Hey, before we move on, before we.

[Chris Reavers]

Move on to the Lyman, another surprise contestant. I didn't even enter.

[John Hines]

It's Gabe Mikulski.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wait till Joe reads the address or the location. I should say.

[John Hines]

How about this? This week's Gler of the Week is Ruth Burnett of North Fort Myers, Florida.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[John Hines]

Wow. Oh, boy. I bet she's warm today.

[Joe Soucheray]

She's playing golf today.

[John Hines]

Hey, Ruth.

[Chris Reavers]

North Fort Myers.

[John Hines]

Ruth Burnett. You're getting the Masters Maples gift pack.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right.

[John Hines]

Working out? If I can. Matt, please do not send this. Oh, that's. I wasn't supposed to read that. This week's Gler of the Week is Ruth Burnett of North Myers, Florida.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, I've been to Fort Myers a couple of times. Is there a difference or is it like. Like North Mankato and Mankato.

[Chris Reavers]

There's a North Fort Myers. There's a.

[Joe Soucheray]

There is.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. You got to go north of Fort Myers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you.

[Chris Reavers]

Yep, there is. There is a distinction. Yes, there is a distinction from Fort Myers and North Fort Myers.

[John Hines]

Fort Myers is the one town. I've said if you graduated from high school in Fort Myers in 1965 and then you disappeared for the next 70, 60 years and came back, you would be lost.

[Chris Reavers]

You wouldn't recognize it.

[John Hines]

That's about the only place you can say something like that. If you graduated from a high school in Chicago in 1965, disappeared and then came back after 60, 70 years, you would think nothing had changed.

[Joe Soucheray]

Have we recovered?

[John Hines]

Of what? Since the hurricane, no many gains have been made, but it's not completely recovered.

[Joe Soucheray]

I was there at 23 and it was pretty. It was still pretty bad.

[John Hines]

Well, when was that hurricane?

[Joe Soucheray]

Wasn't it 21?

[John Hines]

No, God, 22 fall of. It was in there sometime.

[Chris Reavers]

So if you went to. So in other words, let me give it a local twist here. If you went to Maddox elementary for kindergarten only, and you had Mrs. Tilsner as a teacher, and you came back 25 years later and Maddox wasn't there, it was just a park, what would you feel?

[Joe Soucheray]

Hurricane Ian made landfall on Wednesday, September 28th of 2022.

[John Hines]

22.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hurricane Ian.

[Kenny Olson]

Gee Allers, it's 1:28, 32 minutes before 2:00', clock, 11 below.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you remember that? We had Mrs. Tilsner on my kindergarten teacher, and she remembered me.

[John Hines]

I don't remember that. Oh, I don't doubt you for a.

[Chris Reavers]

Moment family was the Tilsner Carton Corporation on.

[John Hines]

Oh, really? Yeah. Only because it comes to us all the way from the traveling. But my favorite was when your sister produced a fourth grade paper you had written.

[Kenny Olson]

Can we go back to arguing about how wrong you are?

[John Hines]

These come to us from Kiowaka, New Zealand. From the traveling Lymans. It was on this day, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Today is January 23rd.

[Chris Reavers]

Let's do it.

[John Hines]

1855, a cable suspension bridge opened between Minneapolis and Nicollet island. The first permanent span over the main channel of the Minnesota River. It could be crossed by paying a toll of 3 cents one way or 5 cents round trip per human foot passenger, 15 cents a horse and 2 cents per head of sheep.

[Chris Reavers]

How much would you save if you.

[John Hines]

Bought a round trip on this day?

[Kenny Olson]

What?

[John Hines]

You'd save two cents? Yeah. Five cents for both ways.

[Kenny Olson]

Matthew. No further questions please.

[John Hines]

January 23, 1865, the First National bank of Minneapolis began business with a capital of 50 grand with beginnings in a private bank co owned by its first president, Jacob K. Seidel. The institution would go through several name changes, celebrating 75 years in business and 1939 as first national bank and Trust of Minneapolis and then reverting to its original name in 1943. On this day, Jan.23. Well, it was a sad day. On this day in 1929, the three day trial of Lake Charles resident Ben Shock, charged with not having a license for his beagle, began. I don't know how this made this day in history. Declaring a case of mistaken identity, Schock claimed that his beagle had died and that his license fee collector had seen him with another beagle. Schock refused to play ball and was jailed for 30 days while the judge pondered the case, finally ruling that Shock had been wronged and should be set free. We got people today that commit heinous crimes and they don't do 30 days. 30 days. And this guy didn't have a license for the wrong because.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, beagle, that's a bugle.

[John Hines]

On this day he had that tin.

[Chris Reavers]

Cup that he just went up against the bars.

[John Hines]

She had 23, 1976, another one. That's amazing that it made this day in history. Milton Reynolds, an Albert Lee native who became a millionaire by his astute and early mass production and promotion of a ballpoint pen in the 1940s, died in Chicago.

[Chris Reavers]

What was his last name?

[John Hines]

Reynolds.

[Chris Reavers]

And he didn't name the pen after himself.

[John Hines]

On this day, Jan.23 in 1986, Northwest Airlines agreed to buy Republic Airlines for 884 million. A purchase that formed a single Twin Cities based carrier and the third largest airline in the United States. And then some guy named Al Checkey. He certainly ran that into the ground.

[Chris Reavers]

Thanks, Checky. A dink.

[John Hines]

On this day, January in 1986, William Rubin, former president of Flight Transportation Corporation of Eden Prairie, and Janet Karkey, his chief financial officer, were found guilty by a federal jury in St. Paul of perpetrating the largest financial fraud in Minnesota history. Well, until the Somalis arrived by engineering a sale of about $25 million in stock for a mostly fictitious company. Seriously, that's nothing compared to what the Somalis have pulled off. On this day in Minnesota, sports dis. In fact, I'd go let those people out of prison.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, get them out of there.

[John Hines]

On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history.

[Joe Soucheray]

Joe, who'd we lose to on January 23rd?

[John Hines]

Well, we didn't lose to anybody, but on Sunday, on this day in 1987, the Timberwolves announced their name. Oh, they became the Timberwolves.

[Chris Reavers]

Did you approve of that? Did we.

[Joe Soucheray]

Was that a. I like the Timberwolves nickname. I think it's cool. It's kind of awesome.

[John Hines]

It's called the Wolves.

[Joe Soucheray]

The Wolves.

[John Hines]

I'm fine with it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where do you get the wolf urine?

[John Hines]

From Deworf D. Wolves from Dewerves. Thank you so much. We thank you. Be careful.

[Chris Reavers]

What is the date tonight?

[Joe Soucheray]

Have a care.

[John Hines]

Put a blanket in your car and some snacks.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you have a safety survivor kit?

[John Hines]

I don't.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, what's wrong with you?

[John Hines]

I don't have far to go. Hey, I can walk home today and.

[Chris Reavers]

Probably live, what, 11 months from today? Okay, what's the date today?

[John Hines]

23Rd.

[Joe Soucheray]

January 23rd.

[John Height]

Brook's birthday.

[John Hines]

You?

[Chris Reavers]

11 months.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, Christ.

[John Hines]

Okay, bird.

[John Height]

No, that's December 25th.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sorry. Oh, I got it. You know, follow us along on social media, even though Joe hates all of it. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram, X, and now tick tock. And you should also follow us on YouTube where you can watch the show every single day starting right around noon. You can also see full segments.

[John Hines]

I was gonna go get some yarn, but I guess they can't. They're closed.

[Joe Soucheray]

We ought to meet.

[Chris Reavers]

They oughta yard.

[John Hines]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Have a great, great weekend. You got any big plans for the weekend?

[John Hines]

Just to hope. Denver has a hellacious storm.

[Joe Soucheray]

It is time once again, that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. Call that number you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free, yes, I use the word free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, another volatile week this week. Are we in store for more next week?

[Josh Arnold]

We are in store for a little more volatility next week. This week started off on a down note and according to statistics coming from the Stock Stock Traders Almanac published by the Hirsch family the day after, the day after Martin Luther King Day has now finished negative in eight of the last 11 years and finishing negative on Tuesday. That was a big negative and it did scare a lot of people. As we said then, panic is not an investment strategy. What is an investment strategy or at least an asset allocation model that I have used keeping up to 30% in cash and the balance invested in growth oriented stock with a focus on companies involved in the Internet of course would include artificial intelligence, leisure related businesses, something that I found a very, very long time ago in graduate school. That leisure businesses, regardless of the economy have tended to do well and even in a negative negative economy, hold up well and can be a source of source of both safety and growth and also investing in real assets and then investing in companies tied to some of the faster growing regions in the, in the world and always keep a little bit around for some shorter term speculative trading. Now Tuesday did give that opportunity to put some of that cash, cash to work and we'll see how that does over the, I'll say over the ensuing weeks and, and months. But Tuesday was a rough day. Wednesday started out that way, but we did have a nice turnaround not so much with earnings but with, you know, a macro event occurring at Davos when the president in an interview said they had a, we had a framework or they had a framework for a deal with Greenland. It is very interesting, but after World War II, President Harry Truman tried to buy Greenland, nobody's talked about that recently. But in any case there is a framework of the deal around Green Greenland and that seems to have calmed nerves around many traders. We did have some earnings reports this this week, including from Netflix which showed 325 million subscribers. That is a lot. But the Stock went down on concerns about about viewers not not watching as long as had been in the past. Netflix desire not to buy back shares as they would need the cash for their potential purchase. Warner Brothers discovery that still will take some time to play out. But should Netflix prevail, Netflix is going to be a big big time winner and you could see Netflix rebound tremendously. Last night intel reported and the stock had been move up significantly into the earnings on hopes that intel would have a bigger surprise relating to chip use and development. But I do believe that the move up significantly we'll say from $45 a share to $54 a share in under a week definitely was not sustainable. And intel while beating on the top line and the bottom line provided guidance that was way too soft and additionally said well demand was strong for their products. They didn't have they didn't have enough product to go around and that cost of product including memory could significantly increase cutting into their margin going forward. Intel is down 15% as we speak. This might be a stock you might want to I'm not going to say stay away from but only look at for short term trade next week for the big I'll say for the big magnificent seven stocks reports Microsoft Meta and Tesla and Apple Microsoft first the focus is going to be on their cloud products and their spending Meta focus on advertising and how they're how they're monetizing all of their their products whether it be reels or or Facebook Tesla well it's known that car sales are not going to be strong but what about robots what about Robo taxis going going forward and what about other products that that are in develop develop Apple largest position coming Thursday night Focus sales primarily iPhones as it normally is sales in China which is a big market for Apple services revenue what is that growing and of course on guidance into the next quarter. Some people are hopeful that Apple will talk a lot about Siri and how close that is to development development with or integration with Google Gemini and there are concerns of course that Apple's margin could take a hit on memory prices going up so that that will be a concern. Now last time memory prices went up Apple did not I say did not get get hurt hurt from that or minimally it's minimally affected Apple Apple this time don't know but Apple has been down 8 straight weeks. I still maintain my $400 price target on Apple. Another good report this week came from Interactive Brokers which talked about their growing business and particularly the predictions market. And while editor Robinhood has sold off from its highs. The prediction markets and the movement movement in crypto currencies will affect Robinhood. Their report is not, not yet upcoming. That is another company to look at for shorter term speculation.

[Joe Soucheray]

Excellent advice.

[Josh Arnold]

Going to be interesting. We'll say going forward. Politics is still going to have an impact at least short term on the market.

[Joe Soucheray]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him. G elers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day. Have a fantastic weekend. Try to stay warm and we'll talk to you again next week.

[Josh Arnold]

Yes, we will. And just a reminder, some of my favorite restaurants are open this weekend, including my friend Ken Sherman's restaurant Boardwalk down by the by Canterbury Park.

[Joe Soucheray]

Perfect. I love that place. Thanks, Josh.

[Josh Arnold]

Okay, talk to you soon.

[John Hines]

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[John Height]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Hines]

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