12/8 Minnesota has an uncontrollable welfare system

Summary

Garage Logic, Dec 8, 2025: Minnesota’s Uncontrollable Welfare System

Episode Overview

In this episode, Joe Soucheray and co-hosts take listeners on a journey across topics ranging from the lighter side of Minnesota winter to deep critiques of the state’s welfare infrastructure, political leadership, and media accountability. With their signature banter and a genuine sense of nostalgia for "the way things used to be," the hosts examine how Minnesota's welfare system has become, in their view, sprawling, fraud-prone, and nearly impossible to manage. They call out current politicians, scrutinize the erosion of civic trust, question the media’s lack of investigative rigor, and lament the loss of shared community values.

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Key Segments and Insights

1. Winter Rituals: The Great "Chunk Kicking" Debate

Timestamps: 01:49–11:26

• Joe and listeners share humorous emails about the oddly beloved Minnesota tradition of kicking frozen "chunks" (ice/mud clods) off vehicle wheel wells.
• Listeners debate chunk-kicking etiquette within marriage, car ownership, and even public service vehicles.
• Joe’s ruling: If spouses jointly own the cylinders (vehicles), they share chunk-kicking rights. Otherwise, “her car/her chunks, your car/your chunks.”
• Memorable Quote:
  "I will share a house, a meal and a bed. A bank account with my wife. I will not share my chunks." — Kenny Olson (06:06)

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2. Freedom of the Press and Erosion of Civic Trust

Timestamps: 12:07–13:59

• Joe reflects on an article about foreign correspondents being expelled for unfavorable reporting, noting the worrying parallels to America.
• The gang muses, semi-seriously, about the creeping limitations on speech and declining media independence.
• Reference to the Hong Kong/China situation and the broader threat of authoritarian overreach.

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3. From Local Politics to Unrecognizable Leadership

Timestamps: 20:10–25:56

• Joe argues that increasing disconnection between voters and city leadership has allowed activists to control municipal governments, especially in Minneapolis and St. Paul.
• Many council members are described as unrelatable and out-of-touch with the everyday concerns of their constituents.
• Memorable Quote:
  “It became increasingly easier for people we don't know to run for political office and get elected.” — Joe Soucheray (22:14)
• Observes a shift from community-based representation to ideological activism, especially focused on equity rather than practical city service.

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4. Minnesota Welfare Fraud and Political Accountability

Timestamps: 30:02–44:28

• Pivot to the episode’s key theme: the dysfunction in Minnesota's welfare system, especially in the wake of the billion-dollar food fraud scandal.
• Joe and the team blame Governor Walz, Rep. Ilhan Omar, and other DFL (Democratic-Farmer-Labor) leaders for looking the other way or being complicit (“they kept looking the other way as this money went out the door” — Joe, 30:29).
• They discuss Omar’s appearance on CBS’s "Face the Nation," characterizing her answers as evasive and focused on deflecting via Donald Trump rather than engaging substantive fraud issues.
• Notable Segment:
  “The whole ideology that gave rise to the fraud in Minnesota stemmed from a belief that it’s about time some other people had some equity … so they kept looking the other way as this money went out the door, led by Walz, who knew damn well it was happening.” — Joe Soucheray (30:18)
• Criticism that the state is overrun by redundant, overlapping welfare programs that invite fraud, with little evidence of actual need being met.

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5. Media Critique and Decline of Investigative Journalism

Timestamps: 44:07–47:46

• The group highlights how major news outlets no longer pursue stories of governmental fraud or hold politicians accountable, contrasting today’s media with the more aggressive journalism of decades past.
• Memorable Quote:
  “Why is it that the most popular news program in the country isn’t even a news program at all? It’s a podcast.” — Kenny Olson (45:04)
• The Star Tribune is singled out for “ignoring” leads and attacking messengers rather than investigating malfeasance.

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6. Ilhan Omar, Trump, and Rhetoric

Timestamps: 31:12–36:44, 66:04–68:48

• Ilhan Omar’s rising net worth is scrutinized, with Joe alleging implausible personal wealth accumulation (“…how did your net worth go from 240 grand to 30 million during the last five years?”—Joe Soucheray, 35:38).
• Extended discussion and playback of Donald Trump’s controversial rhetoric towards Somali immigrants and Ilhan Omar, with the hosts playing the clip for full context (66:24–67:23).
• Joe is resolute: “People aren’t garbage, period”—rejecting Trump’s language but steadfast in his criticism of political corruption.

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7. Too Many Programs, Too Much Fraud: What to Fix

Timestamps: 38:31–42:27

• The hosts argue that the core issue isn’t immigration, but the uncontrollable layers within Minnesota’s welfare apparatus—“there are just layers and layers of programs.”
• Joe calls for a drastic overhaul, eliminating redundancy, increasing professionalism, and drastically reducing the non-governmental organizations siphoning taxpayer funds.

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8. Nostalgia and the Loss of Civic Engagement

Timestamps: 20:10–25:56, 41:44–43:44

• Reflection on earlier eras when politicians were neighbors, known quantities, and the community was more cohesive.
• Civic disengagement, according to the hosts, let activists fill the vacuum, steering cities toward decline.

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9. News Updates and Banter

Timestamps: 51:31 onward

• Wind-down covers Minnesota weather, sports (Gophers bowl game, old Vikings losses), local crime stories, and various Minnesota trivia.
• True to Garage Logic style, the episode concludes with comedic asides, blue dogs, wild mushroom foraging, and more tales from listener mail.

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Notable and Memorable Quotes

• On Welfare Fraud:
  “The fraud never gets discussed. When Trump gets introduced to a topic, half the people will choose fraud over Trump. It’s that simple.” — Joe Soucheray (33:46)
• On Political Disconnect:
  “You don’t run into them at the grocery store… They are on a third rail, almost physically on a third rail of existence that has nothing to do with us.” — Joe Soucheray (24:12)
• On Media Failure:
  “Kupchella just handed you a story that they probably knew about and they've been ignoring.” — Kenny Olson (47:03)
• On the Nature of Progressivism:
  “They foresee sharing misery equally.” — Joe Soucheray (28:52)
• On Modern Leadership:
  “I always want the person who doesn't want the office. And [Garfield] didn't want it.” — Joe Soucheray (58:28)

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Conclusion

The Garage Logic crew uses a blend of humor, local color, and hard-nosed skepticism to confront the reality of government dysfunction in Minnesota. They argue passionately that the explosion of welfare programs—especially under progressive leadership—has led to unchecked fraud, while a disconnected electorate, distracted media, and erosion of civic bonds have allowed the crisis to flourish. Ultimately, the podcast is both a love letter to old Minnesota and a clarion call for citizens to reclaim oversight, demand accountability, and return to the values of common sense and honest community.

Transcript

[Host]

Just a heads up to you folks sitting with a notebook and pen Mishke. The new podcast here in Garage Logic land is now coming out twice a week, Wednesdays and Fridays. If you're in fact scribbling this down, Wednesday is kind of tough to spell. It's not like it sounds. You want to spell it W, E, N, Z, but that of course would be a mistake. Friday is spelled just like it sounds. You're going to be okay there, but Wednesday's a bugaboo, let me tell you people. Just a pain in the patootie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jeez, it's hard. Okay.

[Chris Reavers]

Hey, how are you?

[Joe Soucheray]

Wally Burchell. Oh, what the hell is that?

[Chris Reavers]

Who is Wally?

[Joe Soucheray]

That's the guy from the MSRA I wrote. I know Jay Burchell on his name for the Josh. Hey.

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[Chris Reavers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom and the rookie here is your flashlight king fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Sushere.

I, I.

I continue to receive mail about chunk kicking and many glers have really done some deep thinking about it. And for example, Dave up in Alexandria, Kenny's way writes a little FYI for you. Did you know that once the temperature approaches zero that chunks are composed of the third hardest substance known to man, surpassed only by diamonds and aluminum oxide? The scientific name is fenderite. That hardness has contributed to many a broken toe in an overly aggressive chunk kicker. That's why experts recommend using the modified reverse heel strike method.

Happy kicking Dave from Alexandria. One of the guy do you do that the backwards? I've tried them.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I'm googling that right now. I think Dave might be having fun with us.

[Joe Soucheray]

The mank sent me rules for chunk kicking but number six is there is no rule number six so. And he also believed children under 12 should not kick chunks without supervision as they are reckless heathens and will ruin the integrity of your automobile.

And I have this now. I have Jason from Hastings wants a ruling. I started my Saturday morning Just about as good as a guy could. Day off from work, hot coffee, eggs, thick cut bacon, followed by a trip to Fleet Farm with a woman. Things took a turn soon after when walking out of Fleet Farm and into the parking lot, the woman was about 15 to 20ft in front of me and I noticed her heading for the driver's side of the truck. Having the keys in my hands, I wondered what she might be up to. She walked right up to the driver's side front wheel and proceeded to kick the chunk off my truck. I stood motionless, almost paralyzed. She then walked around the passenger side and kicked the chunks off that front tire as well.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, it's our.

[Joe Soucheray]

There are chunks. Hu. I remained calm, got in the truck and drove off. After about 10 minutes, I simply said, you kick my chunks? She said, yes, it was fun. I said, but you have your own car to kick chunks. Woman said, yeah, I kicked those too. But you have a truck and your chunks are bigger. They're more fun. Hey now, Mayor, I must ask, does the fact that we are married give her equal access to my chunks? Hell no. I've always considered my chunks. Her car, her chunks. I take great pride in my trunk trucks, trunks, truck chunks. That's hard. It is rubber, rubber baby buggies.

I have always taken great pride in my trunk chunks. Sometimes letting them trunk, trunk, truck, trucks. I'm gonna get there. I take great pride in my truck chunks sometimes letting them grow and waiting for the right time for the perfect kick. I aim to get each one with a single kick and watching the whole chunk slide completely off. I am now left to wonder if she's been kicking my chunks unnoticed all these years. My other dilemma is the ruling that you will issue. On the one hand, if you rule marriage allows equal access to all chunks on our vehicles. I will be getting the short end of the stick as her Ford Fusion chunks I would have access to are no match for the beauties on my Ram truck. Perhaps I will push to trade her fusion in for a large SUV if you rule in my favor. I worry she will not take the ruling seriously after she heard the episode last week in which you stated it was okay to kick chunks off vehicles that you did not own. Yeah, but I took that back. She gasped that remark, stating, no, no, no, you never kick a stranger's chunks with so much winter left and so many chunks still to kick. I look forward to your ruling, Jason, and has things. I face a dilemma.

[Kenny Olson]

I have.

[Joe Soucheray]

I face a dilemma.

[Kenny Olson]

I have two things that I want to feed you before you make A decision.

[John Haidt]

All right.

[Kenny Olson]

Number one, I will share a house, a meal and a bed. A bank account with my roommate slash wife. I will not share my chunks. Those belong separate. That's a man and a woman. Separate issues. And number two, and I want you to take this into accord, since he said he drove a ram truck. Yeah, this only applies to Ram truck drivers. She can kick your chunks and you can wear her underpants.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, you don't like those rams, do you?

That was Jason in Hastings. That wasn't me.

[Kenny Olson]

That was a shot across the bow, Jason.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you are free to reply.

[Kenny Olson]

By the way, I drive a gmc, so when you're forming your email.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I cracked myself up.

This dilemma is driven by the cylinder index. The overlying.

Dynamic at stake here is the cylinder index. Now, presumably, they must share all cylinders. If she's bold enough to be kicking chunks. She's aware of cylinder ownership. So they. They own the cylinders in common. I'm going to guess. In which case I think she's entitled to kick the truck chunks. If they're a common. If they. As a married couple. If they own the vehicles and count them as their cylinder index. That's a. That's she. Those chunks are fair game for the. For the husband and wife.

[Kenny Olson]

I see this ruling causing civil war and unrest and divorce all over the Garage Logic Nation. I don't know, Joe. I don't know about that.

[Joe Soucheray]

If they hold their cylinders in separate title, then she is not allowed to kick his chunks. Sure. Right.

Personally, this will never come up with me. It will never happen.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, what about. Here's my situation. I made her put her name on the. What do you call it? The.

[John Haidt]

The.

[Joe Soucheray]

The title.

[Kenny Olson]

The title. But I paid for it. What. What do you do then?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think it sounds like you commonly own the vehicles. If you keeled over right now, it's her truck because she's on the title.

[Kenny Olson]

And that's why I did it, because I don't. I don't know if I'm going to be here tomorrow. I'll be honest.

[Joe Soucheray]

I.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, I just thought it would be easier for her.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I got another one. Another ruling. Have I settled that?

[Kenny Olson]

I. Joe, I don't know about that one.

[Joe Soucheray]

I just. It's such a puzzle.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. We, in my house, we only have one car, and we came to a compromise a long time ago. She gets to kick her side because she sees that all aside. Oh, I kicked the driver's side.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what? You know what? That might be a good solution for the guy in Hastings, she let her kick the passenger side. You get your side.

[Kenny Olson]

That gal burst out of Fleet Farm. She raced ahead of him, beeline to the Dr.

[John Haidt]

He can't do that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think that was untoward.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep, there it is. She kicks her side, you kick your side.

And when it comes to her car, if you're taking that, you still get some kicking in because you're gonna kick the passenger side. All right, here's another ruling from Darren Strandberg who writes, I am a volunteer on a rural ambulance service. On Friday morning there was an incident in our county. A crew had brought a patient into our local hospital and this patient needed to quick be transported to a hospital in a bigger city for care that could not be provided at our local hospital. I was asked to drive for this transport because the roads were iffy and to me that means fun. I went directly to the hospital. Outside of the emergency entrance of our hospital was a deputy sheriff's pickup, which was expected for the nature of that call. As I walked past it heading to er, my eyes were locked on what may have been the largest, most beautiful chunk I had ever seen. I thought, what if he gets an emergency call and has to leave quickly? Could that chunk be a danger if it fell off at a high rate of speed? Only for safety reasons. Okay. I really wanted to. I gave it a soft tap with my toe and watched it fall to the ground. It was glorious. I did spend the weekend a little concerned that at some point I may get a knock on my door because I did, I guess technically commit an fflf.

What do we do there?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, that one's simple to me.

[Joe Soucheray]

It is too to me because the taxpayers own that sheriff's car. You took it right out of my. That's your car, Dean. That's your car. As much as the sheriff you stole that from. So that one was easy.

[Kenny Olson]

Yep, that was the taxpayers vehicle.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you can keep sending them in because you know what I'm predicting? I'm predicting we're in for quite a chuck chunk Chunk chunk kicking winter. A chunk kicking winter. Sure. Seems that will be the go to place for the rules and regulations.

I want to also tell you that I was reading the walls. Well, now we're going to get serious again. And Reeves, you'll just tell me when you're set with our friend. I'm not in any hurry for you to tell me that.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, it's going to be a minute.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Chris Reavers]

Here.

[John Haidt]

You know what?

[Chris Reavers]

I appreciate your patience.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, it's okay.

[Matthew Getz]

I can count down that minute for You.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, he won't be silenced, even though he doesn't have a working microphone.

[Kenny Olson]

By the way, we need to tell Gilers why we haven't heard from Matthew.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he doesn't have a microphone. You write me a note if you want to say something.

[Kenny Olson]

All right? Send an email.

[Chris Reavers]

Is this 2026.

Rookie speaks when Spoken to?

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. I want to read you something as I read this this morning.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

This light needs to go to page nine. Today's war in the wrath of walls. But we certainly haven't been told. We can't say what we do. So I still think we're better off than Hong Kong, but I can see it coming.

[Kenny Olson]

Have presidents or. Well, I guess I already know the answer. Presidents have banned certain members of the media or from the press room at the White House.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, they have. Yeah, they have.

[Matthew Getz]

I have more to say about this.

[Joe Soucheray]

But Matt Getz is a correspondent for some fleabag operation. He sits in the Pentagon press room.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, he does.

[Matthew Getz]

Now, I have more to say about.

[Joe Soucheray]

This subject, but you'll have to email me.

[Matthew Getz]

I've forgotten everything, so I can't. I'm back. Sorry.

[Joe Soucheray]

My point is. My point is, I think we would have read that 30 years ago and said, those poor people, what the hell? And now we're looking at it and we're thinking, boy, we're not that far away from that. We're just not that far away from it. Which I find saddening, that's all. I just was a small piece and I thought then I had.

[Kenny Olson]

At least in this country, there's been no physical retaliation.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, this story doesn't suggest physical retaliation. What it suggests is if you're a Wall Street Journal correspondent and you say something about the fire that the National Security Force doesn't like, you're out of the country. That's what it suggests.

[Kenny Olson]

And I was going to bring up Russia, where you might accidentally fall out of a jet.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. You could get blown out of a window.

[Kenny Olson]

35,000Ft.

[John Haidt]

Hong Kong is part of China, Right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[John Haidt]

Doesn't China control it? So I wouldn't think that'd be that far fetched that something may happen to you if you report something.

[Chris Reavers]

Matthew.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mm.

[Matthew Getz]

Right. I mean, if. If that does happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

Does he have a mic?

[Matthew Getz]

Now what you do is report that.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, Matt, pause. Pause a second. Does China still. Do they know about what happened at Tiananmen Square?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, Tim Walls was there.

[Matthew Getz]

That's right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tim Walls knows more about China than China. True.

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The earth is not your mother, right? The Joe Sug.

[Chris Reavers]

Hi Ken.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's just listen to this music for a second. Let the calming waves wash over us.

[Matthew Getz]

Hit that stinger again for me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Will.

Can Dylan record this for about five minutes for me and make a copy of it?

[John Haidt]

You just Loop it.

[Kenny Olson]

I'd like a one hour version of this song, please.

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[Joe Soucheray]

Schoonover bodyworks.com you guys recall we discovered that Mrs. Walls, during the George Floyd protests.

[Reporter]

Let.

[Joe Soucheray]

It out that she loved to leave her windows open so she could smell the destruction and the fires and the burning of the smoke. Which telegraphed to me that she was rooting for the anarchy just like her husband was and her daughter who was alerting protesters as to the location of.

Law enforcement. Law enforcement. Are you gonna look here the make notes that Gwen Walls now has been keeping the windows open and whatever, wherever they live. She wants to hear all the people driving by calling her husband retard. Oh.

[Matthew Getz]

There it is.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know we're not supposed to use that word, but in this case I think it's fine.

[Kenny Olson]

It's been making a comeback, hasn't it?

[John Haidt]

Really?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right. The other day, I got on a service road of life soliloquy about. I think what happened was that we were all leading Americans. I mean, leading reasonably sound, productive lives and enjoying the fruits of liberty and enjoying even stuff and.

Raising families and.

Buying a house and having a car and kids going to school and playing sports. And we didn't pay any attention, basically, to what was happening politically. Of course, we paid attention during presidential elections and maybe even in governor's elections. But for the most part, I think people just grew accustomed to things running fairly smoothly and took a lot of great American life for granted. Well, I have a second. I have an addendum to that theory. It was also the fact that during these times of what I contend, we weren't paying attention. We probably at least knew.

In regional and local elections, for example, we knew who we were voting for. We might have literally known the person. They lived down the block. The guy might have been a local insurance executive or a schoolteacher or whatever. And we knew that. Hey, did you see where Norm Jones is running for office? And the wife might say, yeah, I talked to his wife in the supermarket. We knew who these people were for the most part. They were sharing the same experiences that all of Americans were. They shopped where we shopped. They went to the same movie theater. They might have seen them in church. You saw them at the hardware store or out for a bicycle ride or whatever. They were among us. We knew who we were voting for. And I would add in my addendum that the outgrowth.

Of the overriding problem of we took all of that for granted and weren't really paying attention is that it became increasingly easier for people we don't know to run for political office and get elected. We don't. I mean, it's uncanny how much the average Gl or listening to this show probably doesn't have in common with the average city council member. The closer you get to the country's tallest buildings.

[Matthew Getz]

That's key. The last thing you just said there, because I believe in Kenny's area, the.

[Joe Soucheray]

City council, this still might be true. Where Kenny lives. He might know who is representing him.

[Matthew Getz]

I'd even say South St. Paul. I think there's a lot of people that are.

[Joe Soucheray]

So what happened is we got all of these as the activists took over. I can't identify with a single one of them. I think I'd love to get the stats. In fact, I almost called Gabe over the Weekend. I'd like to know how many city council members in Minneapolis and St. Paul have kids. I'd like to know how many of them own a home. I'd like to know how many of them even own a car. And I bet you will find that the greatest percentage of them in both towns are renters. That they might eschew a car because they're part of the group that tries to demonize gasoline. And I would imagine that combined of the two cities, where are there 13 seats in Minneapolis? 13 wards.

[Kenny Olson]

Correct.

[Joe Soucheray]

So. And there's however many in Minneapolis seven or St. Paul seven.

[Matthew Getz]

Seven.

[Joe Soucheray]

I believe so seven and three. That's 20 people. I bet there's not five kids among the 20 people. I bet there's NOT five. Now, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I'm just saying we no longer. Now.

You don't run into them at the grocery store.

[Matthew Getz]

Seven and simple.

[Joe Soucheray]

You don't see them at the movie theater. You don't see them at the hardware store. You don't see them out on the bicycle pass that they've insisted we must have. They. They are. They're on their. They lit. They're on a third rail, almost physically on a third rail of existence that has nothing to do with us. And so rather than serve to reflect the needs of the citizenry.

Their leash has been so free that they take the tax money and they play social games with it. That has nothing to do with us leading our lives and hoping for the street to be plowed and the street lights to work. They're off on a different tangent. They're great believers in equity and they think that equity's the answer because.

They'Ve come out of the failed academy and they're predisposed to think that life is terribly unfair and that there are too many victims. And the people who actually have jobs and start corporations, corporations and employ people are merely oppressors and they're ruining the cities. They're ruining America and they're ruining the cities. And it's happening here. We're seeing it right in front of us. So the second part of me thinking we haven't been paying attention is the fact that we also no longer know the people who represent us. They're not down around the corner. I'm not seeing them at the kids Little League softball game. They're not. Who are they?

Now? I got a note from Howard Cleary, who's a frequent contributor, one of G. Ellers many deep thinkers under our direction. Right. Recently you were pondering the Mindset of the Socialists on how we arrived here. Your comment While we were water skiing in 1965, we were not worried at all about our way of life and took it for granted. As we now know, all along there have been subtle but dark undercurrents eroding that confidence we once took for granted. I am writing to add color to the picture of what we know or think we know about the socialist progressive mindset. My wife was watching Carol Evan on Saturday morning, making it clear that unlike Rookie, I don't watch it by choice. I happen to be in the room during the broadcast. Brian Eggert, an independent movie reviewer and deeply steeped in the mystery, was reviewing a movie the title does because he manages to flavor every review with progressive rhetoric. I'm unaware of who this Brian Eggert is. During the review he stated winning can be self destructive and it struck me this idea is at the core of what we are seeing. The link below is a video of the interview I recorded with my phone. About 30 seconds. It gives full context of the statement. Then he linked me to the video, which I haven't even watched yet. It was slipped in so casually as to go almost unnoticed, except by those who either agree or those who understand the implication. When you made your water skiing remark, you implied that the effort to undo ourselves went unnoticed. Not true. You've been observing and commenting on the mystery for as long as I've been a listener. You may not have fully understand or fleshed out what you were seeing or what it would come to mean in 2025. Unfortunately for all of us, you're not a seer. But you did help all of us arrive at the same conclusion. As much as progressives think winning is self destructive, we all recognized immediately the progressive mindset is self destructive and defeatist. They are willing to give up and relinquish their rights to others because they have been taught to believe. They haven't come by them honestly and they don't deserve them. Another piece of the puzzle. Best Howard.

I do think.

I'd put a different spin on the words winning can be self destructive.

We've talked about it before. I think it is the progressive nature to undermine competition. I think it is in the progressive mindset to undermine achievement.

I think it's in the progressive mindset to just undermine getting ahead in life. That's not what they foresee.

They foresee sharing misery equally.

[Chris Reavers]

Case in point, boys playing in girls sports, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

They don't care about the winning or losing when you know winning is really a One of the great backbones of liberty. When you stop to think about it, no matter what you do, you can win at it. You can win at a podcast, you can win selling insurance, you can win as a school, you can be. The best you can be is winning.

And they don't like winning. They don't try to win.

Where were we?

Well, here's where we are, General.

Here's where we are.

It. We're all aware of it now. G l ers are aware.

[Matthew Getz]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Of what's happening.

I don't. I. What we do about it is still in play.

The whole ideology that gave rise to the fraud in Minnesota stemmed from a belief that while it's about time some other people had some equity, it's about time other people had money in the game.

These rich people who live on a lake, they don't deserve it any more than anybody else. So they kept looking the other way as his money went out the door.

Led by Walz, who knew damn well it was happening. As complicit.

Keeps making the false claim that it was because of his administration and him specifically, that justice was finally brought to the forefront. No, it wasn't. The FBI and the Fed started the indictments. Walz had nothing to do with it. He's lying when he tells you that. So is Keith Ellison. He's lying.

Ilhan Omar, I don't know where you are on that. She made a number of appearances over the weekend on news shows. Here is your latest Ilhan Omar report on Garage Logic.

What did you find? I know she was on Face the Nation. I think.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, she was on Face the Nation. I don't know the name of the reporter. I'll have that for you in a second. But she was trying to put a positive spin on the billion dollar Somali fraud.

[Joe Soucheray]

And remember, she won't come on this show. No, she won't talk to the local.

[Chris Reavers]

People because you're racist.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, of course I am. Face the Nation, though. She'll go on that. All right.

[Reporter]

There are 80,000 people of Somali descent in your state. But the president has been very focused, not just on them, but on you. In this extraordinary Cabinet meeting, he said Somalis, quote, come from hell. They complain and they do nothing but bitch. Take a listen.

[President Trump]

These are people that do nothing but complain. They complain and from where they came from, they got nothing. We don't want them in our country. Let them go back to where they came from and fix it.

Thank you very much, everybody.

[Reporter]

That knocking is vehement agreement from his cabinet members there I Just wonder what the reaction is in your dissertation district to have that from the highest office in the land.

[Ilhan Omar]

It's disgusting. It's completely disgusting. These are Americans that he is calling garbage. And we feel like there is an unhealthy obsession that he has on the Somali community and an unhealthy and creepy obsession that he has with me. I think it is also really important for us to remember that this kind of hateful rhetoric and this level of dehumanizing can lead to dangerous actions by people who listen to the president.

[Reporter]

And 95% of the Somalis in your state are U.S. citizens. Yes. Just for clarity, there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, two things.

[Matthew Getz]

What was she on? What show?

[Chris Reavers]

Face the Nation.

[Matthew Getz]

Got it.

[Chris Reavers]

Face the Nation.

[Joe Soucheray]

By introducing Trump, the moderator set Ilhan Omar up for the only answer you are going to hear from her. There was no. And if by introducing Trump, by the way, she said he has a creepy obsession with her, he does with a lot of people. That is not limited to you, Ilhan. That's just the way he operates. But more importantly, the fraud never gets discussed. No.

[Matthew Getz]

Why is that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Because when Trump gets introduced to a topic, half the people will choose fraud over Trump.

It's that simple.

[Reporter]

Where the Treasury Secretary just left off, he alleged that people who were tied to you or your campaign were involved in this broad, brazen scheme to rip off the Minnesota state welfare system. Do you want to respond to that? Do you know what he is referring to?

[Ilhan Omar]

I really don't. And I don't think the Secretary himself understands what he's referring to. We obviously had people who were able to donate to our campaign that were involved. We send that money back a couple years ago. And actually I was one of the first members of Congress to send a letter to the Secretary of AG asking them to look into what I thought was a reprehensible fraud that was occurring within the program.

[Joe Soucheray]

She did send a letter, but upon reflection, as we reexamined the letter, she was asking, what exactly are you going to do and how are you going to do it? And.

I'm gone now. I'm so cynical now. I believe she was wondering.

What can I do to intervene here, Joe, don't.

[Kenny Olson]

You think everything she said about the president in that first clip could be said pretty much about her and her obsession with him? And the things that she said has said could lead to quoting her. Dangerous actions against the president or members of the Republican Party? I mean, doesn't. Doesn't that go both ways?

[Joe Soucheray]

Of course it does, but we live in pretty divided time.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I mean it's just a whole lot of hateful rhetoric being spewed back and forth.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think it's a very legitimate question and you can't count on some of these well trained, good looking so called reporters on TV to ask her. But I think it's a very little legitimate question that how did your net worth go from 240 grand to 30 million during the last five years?

[Kenny Olson]

That'll never be asked.

[Joe Soucheray]

That begs to be investigated, of course. How did that happen?

I think she's as corrupt as the day is long.

I think she knows every in and out of that food fraud. I think she knows exactly who the.

[Matthew Getz]

Good people are, who the bad people were.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think she knows exactly how it happened. She didn't do anything to stop it. She claims. I wrote this letter to the Department of Agriculture, meaning it was the Department of Ag that was sending the checks to the Department of Education. She wrote that letter to the Department of Ag, I think as a scouting mission for the effort. She wanted to know what exactly are you people up to? How are you going to do it?

[Kenny Olson]

Everything you just said about her knowing, I think I'm just going to go ahead and say can be applied to a lot of people right now in both the House and Senate here in Minnesota and maybe even on a national level. I think a lot of people knew.

[Joe Soucheray]

The Democrats in this state voted down a bill that would have created an inspector general. They voted it down. They wouldn't hear from it. They didn't want it to end. These are the people who vote for Democrats. This is their base, this is their constituency.

[Matthew Getz]

I know a person in my life that worked at the Fradolloni's ace Hardware from 2012 to 2015, a little over three years right in the middle of St. Paul. I said, I asked him, did you see anybody? I worked there a little over three years. I don't remember seeing a single politician come through the store.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, at Fradaloni.

[Matthew Getz]

Correct. And that's right in the heart of St. Paul.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I just had some. Oh.

It might have developed late last week, but we learned that.

DHS Department of Human Services here said it will stop accepting new applications from home and community based service providers starting January 1st because the applications.

To provide those services has gone up 245% in the last two years. Wow. So people are clamoring for that to steal that money. Here's the point. During our, during Friday we also put out a loud call to the Republican Party to get their act together.

And that's still important. But.

What they must realize, or anybody wishing to become governor of this state must realize, it's immigration is probably not our problem. That's probably not our problem. What our problem is is that the government has impossibly is impossibly funding too many programs. There are just layers and layers of programs. What is this one?

This.

Home and community based care providers, I think is different than housing stabilization, for example, which was also fraud ridden. There are two. The whole welfare.

State that Minnesota has become has got to be reinvented.

And the irony is that with all of these programs.

There'S no evidence that anyone who really needs it is getting any help.

And not once, by the way, despite all of this food fraud nonsense, did you ever get a report of children who were genuinely.

Prohibited from eating when hungry? Where are the people that supposedly were supposed to be being fed? They haven't turned up hungry anywhere. So whoever wants to become governor of this state and completely clean out that state house and start over, what you have to do is come up with a more efficient, professional, comprehensive welfare program that doesn't have 1,000 different programs. And you're gonna call them all non governmental organizations. I got an interesting note from Jordi. If you're a non governmental organization and you have your funding cut off, then you weren't a non governmental organization, you were a government organization. We have too many of them.

And the more you have, the more likely there will be fraud.

That would be true in any area of life.

And it's not immigration that's necessarily the problem. It's this whole.

It's this whole BS that Walls has tried to sell. Well, we're just a generous people. No Walls. You're full of BS that has nothing to do with it. You're full of tools. Many programs that are redundant, overlapping. The state overlaps with the fed, the fed overlaps with the state. In the meantime, the honest taxpayers of Minnesota keep sending their money in and it's either getting stolen or all it's doing is expanding the size of the government.

This would not be happening.

If the people representing us were people we actually knew and could identify with. But those days are in the past.

And I'm not taking the American citizenry off the hook. We didn't pay attention the way we should have.

And moving in in the place of the people we didn't know, in the place of the people we knew. Who are this young crowd of activists who don't like the way things work in this country. They don't like capitalism. They don't like competition. They don't like winning, they don't like success because those things don't include too many people.

[Kenny Olson]

Witness Calhoun Square in Lake and Hennepin.

[Joe Soucheray]

A once thriving funky area of town is represented by a woman who holds everything dear to that corner in contempt.

[Kenny Olson]

Chuck Die I drive over there. I'd circle the block once, find a parking spot, run in, buy a cigar, buy a book, do whatever at one of the very many shops up and down both Lake and Hennepin. Right there. Parking spot was always available. Do one lap, you find a spot, you can't do that anymore. The other thing I wanted to mention.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, it's all for bikes and pedestrians who have nowhere to go there because there's nothing there to be a biker or pedestrian for.

[Kenny Olson]

You mentioned hungry kids. And even as recent as the election, when the governor was running with Harris for president and vice president, when we were all neck deep in fraud stories, he was still on the campaign trail bragging about how there's no hungry kids and how we work to feed hungry kids. And like such, said, show me the hungry kid.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, there aren't any, fortunately. Now.

The other unfortunate part of this is we can't count on the country's news giants to be on the side of American liberty. We can't count on that.

They'Re part of the demise of our country. You can't count on the ABC Nightly News to do a deep dig on fraud.

[Kenny Olson]

That doesn't make any sense to me because.

They'Re hurting themselves.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can't count on the Star Tribune, which has really, really gone a long.

[Matthew Getz]

Boy, have they.

[Joe Soucheray]

Long way out of the picture.

[Kenny Olson]

Remember Koppel and Nightline and how that came about and how they rode Nightline wave for how many decades?

[Matthew Getz]

Bring somebody on the air, put their feet to the fire. I mean, 60 Minutes used to do that, too, but even in a more weekly major way. But Nightline, every night, he'd have somebody up there.

[Kenny Olson]

Why is that, Joe? Why is it that the most popular news program in the country isn't even a news program at all? It's a podcast, right? Why is that?

Is it the market or is it just the news organizations giving up? I realize now we're changing direction and you probably didn't want to go this way, but to me, it's fascinating.

[Joe Soucheray]

All I know is it's 50 years ago, which seems to me to be yesterday. It was only 1975.

A story like this would have been so pursued that different newspapers would have been fighting each other for the Pulitzer Prize to Unravel.

And people would have gone after Ilhan Omar. They would have said, does it make sense that her net worth went from $240,000 to $30 million in five years? That doesn't work and she needs to be asked about it.

I don't think that's intrusive. How can a congresswoman of no means whatsoever whatsoever suddenly be worth whatever the hell she's worth? I'm glad. I'm all for it. I'm all for people being worth 30 million, but I don't think she came by it honestly.

[Kenny Olson]

They're just doing it wrong. Kupchella makes a piece, and instead of talking about what Kupchella discovered, they're going after the donors. Joe Rogan, an opinion based entertainment program. Rogan, while sitting there puffing on a cigar, asks some newsmaker a question, breaks across the country, all the news organizations, instead of taking that and running with it and calling that newsmaker and getting more information, go after Joe Rogan. Well, Joe Rogan isn't a news guy. He's an opinion guy. Sitting there puffing cigars, having a conversation.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, there is no great example, no greater example of shooting a messenger than Kupchella. Yeah, yeah, he was pilloried by the Star Tribune. Why do you. Why Star Tribune? Do you want a failed city?

[Kenny Olson]

Kupchella just handed you a story. Why?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you know what?

[Kenny Olson]

He handed you a story that they probably knew about and they've been ignoring.

[Matthew Getz]

Omar reported a net worth of up to $30 million in her latest financial disclosure.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's. That's not plausible. Honest. It's not plausible that she did that. Honestly, in that short amount, it's not plausible.

[Matthew Getz]

Her wealth derives almost entirely from the ownership of her husband. Husband, Tim Minette, from his ownership stake in two companies, A California based winery, at a venture capital firm that they have used.

[Kenny Olson]

That she has used. Hey, you know, if you want to go after somebody, go after Pelosi.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, come on, man, that's just ridiculous. Yeah, but they all benefit now.

[Kenny Olson]

We're getting far afield, but, yeah, we are.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's get back to kicking those chunks. Let's kick some chunks.

Say, I hope your garage door is working because this weather's not letting up. We're gonna have a great big winter. We're in the midst of it or at the very beginning of it. Not for a 21st or. I'm fine. I got about, I don't know, 15 days left, whatever, and I'll be in the spring, but not you people. So you get your garage door fixed or you need a new one, Go to Precision Door, Minnesota. Precision Door has models for every budget. $100 off now for G. Ellers on a single door. $200 off on a double door. If you like your current door. But you're getting a little nervous because she's creaking and croaking and making some noises you don't like. You don't want that sucker to not work on one of these ten below mornings. So get a Noisy Door tune up special from Precision Door. 149 bucks. You get a 25 point safety inspection and diagnostic. Get that sucker taken care of so you don't have any problems during this long upcoming winter. Remember, we're 70 days between 60 degree temperatures.

[Chris Reavers]

Let's go.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a long time. That's 20% of the year. Book online at Precision Door mn1word precisiondoormn.com or call Precision Door at 612-263-6985 to schedule your free on site new door estimate. Or book a Precision Door Noisy door tune up special.

It's the end of the world as we know it and he feels fine.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe Sucere I'm gonna feed Reavers a little sea foam right down the app.

[Chris Reavers]

God, I could use it.

[Kenny Olson]

See if it clears things up. I don't think think Reavers is mentioned on seafoamworks.com, the website with all the information you'll ever need for all the various uses of all the various seafoam products. But I still like hearing from GL ers who scored a victory with Seafoam, much like I did over the weekend. The theme of today's seafoam stories, a little bit goes a long way. We drained the gas out of the snow blower last spring, affectionately known as the big bass. But we didn't drain the gas and the carbs. So once it fired up on Saturday, it wouldn't run with choke off. Well, you all know what I did. I fed it about an ounce of seafoam right into the gas tank, let it sit there and idle for five minutes, turn the choke off, she ran like new. No big deal. It happens all the time. Nothing unusual there. Same thing happened with that greasy two stroke triple Yama hammer mountain sled of mine. The gas tank was dry because I got this really cool siphoning tool that just sucks the gas out you get right down to the bottom of. Anyway, the one or two of those flat side carbs had some gunk in the pilot jet you wouldn't run on idle. I gave it a big gulp of Seafoam, ran it on the stand for about 10, 15 minutes, finally purred like a little kitten right before I shut it down again. Nothing unusual about that. That's what you can expect with Seafoam. That's how it is. It's your trusted mechanic in a can. Before you haul it to your mechanic, before you remove that rack of carbs and tear them down, give it a shot of Seafoam. Let that, let those carbs eat for a few minutes and it does the job. It keeps all fossil fuel fired cylinders running clean and happy. A wonderful product in a world of bad gas. Our best friend, Seafoam.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's Mr. John Haidt in his newsroom.

[John Haidt]

Thank you, Joe. This news brought to you by North American Banking Company. Some weather news to kick things from off. Winter storm watch in effect for parts of the Twin Cities, several counties. Douglas, Todd, Morrison, Mille Lacs, Canbeck, Stearns, Benton, Sherburne. I said he Chicago, Anoka, Ramsey and Washington have the potential for heavy accumulating snow and very gusty winds from central Minnesota to western Wisconsin. That starts tomorrow afternoon. And they say it could last through Tuesday night. We could get up to 4 to 7 inches of snow in that area. As the snow's falling, it's also going to be cool, very windy. Winds become very strong with gusts of 30 to 40 miles an hour. Snow should end from west to east during the morning hours of Wednesday. So that winter storm watch in effect starting tomorrow for those named.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, cut the total in half. Dan. So what about 3 inches?

[Matthew Getz]

Gonna miss us, John?

[Kenny Olson]

I use the National Weather Service, exclusively a government organization, by the way. One to three, they're saying tomorrow afternoon, one to two, tomorrow night. So it's either half of that or twice that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

In other words, you know what? Just enjoy it. Just go about your life. It's okay. It's okay.

[John Haidt]

A quick sports note. U of M has accepted an invitation to play in the Rate Bowl Dec. 26 in Phoenix.

[Kenny Olson]

Excuse me?

[John Haidt]

The Rate Bowl. The Gophers will face New Mexico.

[Matthew Getz]

The Rate Bowl.

[Joe Soucheray]

I see. Iowa State had the good sense to say the hell with it. Not going to be in a bowl.

[Kenny Olson]

Was there something controversial about Notre Dame.

[Chris Reavers]

Over the weekend to say Notre Dame, Not Iowa State.

[Joe Soucheray]

Iowa State also voted not to play in a bowl game.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, I missed that. To hell with it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Notre Dame didn't vote not to play in a bowl game. They were excluded from the playoffs.

[Matthew Getz]

Football.

[John Haidt]

They're not going to play in any bowl game. They could have played in another.

[Chris Reavers]

We ain't going to the beach.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't blame them. I don't blame them.

[Kenny Olson]

Are they powerful?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I think with. I think with justification.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay. Lexus.

[Matthew Getz]

Can you change your name?

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't even know what that means.

[Kenny Olson]

Mercedes. Lexus.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

Luxury car on you.

[John Haidt]

The Gophers will face New Mexico 3:30 in the afternoon, December 26th at Chase Field. The game will air on ESPN. This will mark the first meeting between Minnesota and New Mexico. This will be the Gophers 26th all time bowl appearance. The Gophers last played in a game in 2021, defeating West Virginia 18 to 6 in this game. I'm sorry. Minnesota has won eight straight bowl games dating back to the 2015 quick bowl lane. And that's.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. They beat White Bear Lake.

[John Haidt]

Longest active streak in the nation. Joe. The longest in Big Ten history. Joe. And tied for the fourth longest bowl streak in college football.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that's great. What? When's the last time they played in a real bowl? Positivity is going to change this culture, period.

[Matthew Getz]

When you get inside the football walls.

[Joe Soucheray]

You'Re going to have positivity hit you.

[Matthew Getz]

Right in the face.

[Joe Soucheray]

When's the last time they played in a real bowl? Well, that. The answer of course is the Rose bowl. And that would have been six.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, the Outback bowl was.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, that's not real. I'm sorry.

[Matthew Getz]

The bowl playing in right now. These are the kids that just recently won the punt, pass and kick competition.

[Joe Soucheray]

And are ready to roll.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey, since we're talking sports here, John, can you break down for me just what the hell happened to the Wild over the weekend?

[John Haidt]

I can't.

[Joe Soucheray]

They play Seattle tonight. They better win.

[Matthew Getz]

They're going to play Phil McCracken.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

That is so cheap news, Matthew.

[John Haidt]

So cheap in news. The Star Trek.

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought your microphone was off.

[Matthew Getz]

I fixed it. I hacked it.

[Chris Reavers]

The engineering staff actually sent an email. Joe. Rookie's mic is fixed. We're sorry.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you.

[Matthew Getz]

Apologize.

[Joe Soucheray]

They should.

[Kenny Olson]

They should give Joe the switch.

[Matthew Getz]

No, don't give him an id. You can't do that. We told you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hey, can that happen?

[Matthew Getz]

No.

[Chris Reavers]

Like the old Kenny Field. Shut her down.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Should have a little fader for Joe. Anybody. He talks, he doesn't like it, he can just fade.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I'd love it.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, Kenny.

[John Haidt]

The Minneapolis City Council is expected to discuss giving Mayor Jacob Fry a raise of over 46 grand next year and then themselves raises in two years. If approved, the final vote could come as soon as tomorrow. Wait, stop.

[Kenny Olson]

You said that wrong.

[Joe Soucheray]

I.

[Kenny Olson]

You read it wrong. The comma's in the wrong place. You didn't actually say $46,000, did you? You said 4,600.

[John Haidt]

No, 46,000.

[Kenny Olson]

You said $460, right? $4 and 60 cents, right.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, they're treating us like we're an ATM machine.

[Kenny Olson]

46,000.

[John Haidt]

Would. The salary increases would have to go to the mayor for approval of the city council.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wonder if he'd approve.

[Kenny Olson]

I would have my approval down already.

[Chris Reavers]

No wonder.

[Joe Soucheray]

Pre approved. No wonder we had a.

[Kenny Olson]

Those letters I get in the mail pre approved.

[Chris Reavers]

No Wonder we had 75 people running for mayor.

[Kenny Olson]

Goodness gracious.

[Chris Reavers]

Wow.

[John Haidt]

Now the raises are recommended by the city clerk's office. Two years after a salary survey found the mayor's salary lags peers and council members salary is ahead of peers in comparable cities. Right now the mayor makes $141,000. That's about $57,000 lower than the average in 19 comparable cities.

[Joe Soucheray]

And about $100,000 too much.

[John Haidt]

According to a study done by Guidelines House. That puts Minneapolis in the bottom 15%. The mayor makes nearly 13 grand less annually than the St. Paul mayor. Joe St. Paul mayor has paid $153,579,000.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think he's even gone to the.

[John Haidt]

Office a couple times.

In 2023. Guidehouse found Minneapolis City Council members who get about $110,000 annually. We're at the top of the scale among nine peer cities with only Seattle council members being paid more. The study found Minneapolis council members were paid nearly 29,000 more than the average St. Paul City Council is part time. They get paid half the mayor's salary. About $77,000.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's return to Murder by Lightning, the story of James Garfield's very short presidency and the ascendancy of Chester Arthur. What was the one defining characteristic of Garfield? John watched it. Read the book. It's a great series. Well, I'll answer the question.

[Matthew Getz]

He was hokey.

[Joe Soucheray]

He didn't want to be president.

[John Haidt]

No, not at all.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was it. I always want the person who doesn't want the office. And he didn't want it. He didn't seek. He did not seek it. It was all happenstance. Yeah. Reluctant, reluctantly. Very reluctantly.

[Chris Reavers]

Did you seek the mayoral position in Garage Lodge?

[Joe Soucheray]

Urgently? Okay, yeah, urgently.

[Matthew Getz]

Yeah. He was way too. There was nobody else other.

[Joe Soucheray]

Nobody else wanted it.

[Matthew Getz]

We had to give it to him.

[John Haidt]

Nobody else wanted it.

[Kenny Olson]

It's kind of the same way I ended up on Garage Logic, isn't it?

[Matthew Getz]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

I had a phone call from one of the participants, wife, wives. And I was told, you don't have any choice, pal.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did she call you?

[Kenny Olson]

So here I am.

[John Haidt]

A Monday morning fire is coming to.

[Kenny Olson]

Say no to her. Are you crazy? No way.

[John Haidt]

A Monday morning fire has left a mosque and school in Prior Lake with significant, significant damage. It happened at the Masjid Hamza Mosque and Batul Hikmah Academy building located off Highway 13 near Fishpoint Road. Prior Lake Fire Department says a neighbor called it in just after 2:20 in the morning. When crews got there, flames were coming through the roof. The extent of the blaze forced firefighters outside, according to the department, and a portion of the building's roof later collapsed. Fortunately, nobody was hurt and the fire is now under investigation by the state Fire marshal and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Because it's a religious institution, several fire crews are still at the scene working to extinguish any remaining hotspots.

[Joe Soucheray]

So it could have been a defective wiring for all we know. This isn't necessarily the fault of white people who hate everybody.

[John Haidt]

We have no idea at this point what. What caused it. Minnesota Republican Senator Jim Abeler says he was frustrated after hearing President Trump call Somalis garbage, said he wants them, saying he wanted them out of the U.S. the Republican from Anoka sent a letter to the president last week defending Somalis following the president's remarks. The letter asked President Trump to join him in a meeting with the Somali community to understand how Somalis are woven into Minnesota's fabric. He wrote, when I heard your comments about Somali men and women being garbage, I was surprised. Somalis, I know Abel, are said, and I know many, are nothing of the sort. They're business people, drivers, hourly workers supporting their families, investors, nurses, students and clerics. Just like how my ancestors turned out.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right, somebody do me a favor. Would you find Trump's garbage, Quote, I want to hear it.

We shouldn't call people garbage. That's ridiculous. But is there a context? Or did he just say Somali people are garbage? Or did he say fraud was garbage? I'd like to know.

It won't surprise me no matter which answer we find, but I'd like to know the actual sentence in which the word was used.

[Kenny Olson]

If I remember right, it was one of those stream of conscience diatribes.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, how about we do this? How about we take a break? I think I have it and we can play it when we get back.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right. Thank you.

[John Haidt]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Truth to justice and the suture.

Oh, hey, you guys are back on the air.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank.

[Matthew Getz]

I appreciate that. It's about time. As I say, just rolling the dice at this point today, right? 100%. As I say to my grandson, Trish Ray, it's time. You know what that means?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, Kuiper.

[Matthew Getz]

I don't either. Neither does. He doesn't talk. But it's time for you Garage Logicians to check out the twin CDs. Savers Auction. It's the Garagelogic Holiday Auction. It's online and you can save up to seven.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do we get to bid?

[Matthew Getz]

No, no, no.

[Joe Soucheray]

Serious question.

[Matthew Getz]

It's like you can't take advantage of the employment issues because they're good stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Can I just get it for free?

[Matthew Getz]

No, you got to tell somebody about it and then they'll get it for you and then you can have it.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Matthew Getz]

Save up to 70% on your holiday shopping with the Garagelogic Holiday Online Auction. Go to garagelogic.com keyword auction. You can register right now. Bidding starts this Friday, so take a sneak peek right now. It runs through Thursday. 12:18. Shuts off at 8pm and there's thousands of dollars of items that'll be up for bids. And it's only one week. We want to get this done and we want to make sure that you take advantage of it. So pay attention. One week. Items up for auction include a modern buggy RV teardrop tailor from Pressure Land. Rv. That's been a very popular item in the past. It's back, folks. 75 rounds of golf with cart at Deer Run Golf Course.

[Joe Soucheray]

What? I need that teardrop thing.

[Matthew Getz]

Well, you, you have. Well, you can't bid. You're have to figure it out for yourself.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is there a picture of it on the website?

[Matthew Getz]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

I'll bid for you, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're on the show, you moron.

[Matthew Getz]

Three and four star packages where you can drive a tank. That's pretty cool. Plus, if you're working on your golf game like suchi, a three hour indoor golf simulator rental from Drivebox. It's all online at the Garage Logic holiday auction. And again, bidding starts Friday and runs through the 18th. Stuff from Eco Friend, the George floor garage floor geeks, the Intercontinental Hotel at the airport. And you can be part of that if you look at your watch and say, you've gone too long on this permission.

[Joe Soucheray]

Come on, let's go here.

[Matthew Getz]

Where are you going? To the auction.

[Kenny Olson]

Is there parking available?

[Matthew Getz]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you done?

[Matthew Getz]

Boy, I better be.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John again.

[Matthew Getz]

I've been stifled again. Again.

[Joe Soucheray]

John height. Where is he?

[Matthew Getz]

Frozen.

[Joe Soucheray]

John.

[John Haidt]

Yes.

[Matthew Getz]

That was funny. John. Good timing.

[John Haidt]

I was watching something, a video. I was watching what we, I thought we were coming back with.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you have it, Chris? Huh?

[Chris Reavers]

I, I, I do.

[Host]

All right.

[Matthew Getz]

This is my mic working.

[Chris Reavers]

This is President Trump. Nope, this was over the weekend. This is courtesy of Fox News. I'm sorry, what?

[John Haidt]

John, this isn't over the weekend.

[Joe Soucheray]

This was last week.

[Kenny Olson]

This was a couple weeks ago.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Haidt]

Okay.

[Matthew Getz]

I'll be over here.

[Chris Reavers]

This is President Trump, courtesy of Fox Newsmade.

[President Trump]

Ripped off that state for billions of dollars. Billions every year.

[Joe Soucheray]

Billions of dollars.

[President Trump]

And they contribute nothing. The Welfare is like 88%. They contribute nothing.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want them in our country.

[President Trump]

I'll be honest with you, okay? Somebody will say, oh, that's not politically correct.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't care.

[President Trump]

I don't want them in our country. Their country is no good for a reason. Their country stinks and we don't want them in our country. I could say that about other countries too. I can say it about other countries too. We don't want them to help. We got to, we have to rebuild our country. You know, our country is at a tipping point. We could go bad. We're at a tipping point. I don't know if people mind me saying that, but I'm saying it. We could go one way or the other, and we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country. Ilhan Omar is garbage. She's garbage.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, I got my question answered. He's calling people garbage. All right. That was the context.

[John Haidt]

Okay. Do you want more news now, then?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Haidt]

Okay. In national and international news, President Trump planning a $12 billion farm aid package, according to a White House official, bailout to farmers who have struggled to sell their crops while getting hit by rising costs after the president raised tariffs on China as part of a broader trade war. Farmers have backed Trump politically, but his aggressive trade policies and frequently changing tariff rates have come under increasing scrutiny because of the impact on the agricultural sector and because of broader consumer worries. The aid is the administration's latest effort to defend Trump's economic stewardship and answer voter angst about. About rising prices.

[Kenny Olson]

Hold on. Stop a second. Yeah. Trump calling Ilhan garbage. I mean, is that the equivalent of some of the things we've said about her, or walls, for that matter?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I don't think I've ever used that. I know I haven't used that.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, we've said some pretty nasty things.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think so. I don't know. I don't. I. I think you're wrong, and I think you're trying to foment a little argument here, but that doesn't work. We never have said garbage. Garbage.

[John Haidt]

Ever.

[Joe Soucheray]

People aren't garbage, period.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, all right, all right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Corrupt.

[Chris Reavers]

Is that a distinction?

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I meant that. Look up the term corrupt. You're not going to find a synonym. That's garbage.

[John Haidt]

President Trump's efforts to reshape the executive branch and flex his presidential power set to be tested at the Supreme Court today, when the justices have convened to hear a case that could lead to the dismantling of protections meant to insulate independent agencies from political pressure. The case, known as Trump v. Slaughter, arose from the president's move to fire Rebecca Kelly Slaughter from her post at the Federal Trade Commission without cause, despite a federal statute that limits a commissioner's removal to instances of inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office. Japan said that a Chinese military aircraft locked radar on their fighter jets even though they were a safe distance between them. Them denying Beijing's accusations of Interference and renewing its protest over the incident. The Self Defense Force. We're maintaining safe distance. According to Chief Cabinet Secretary Minoru Kahara. President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine said today he was meeting with European leaders in London to talk about what he called sensitive issues regarding those peace talks that have languished because of clashing views about how to end his country's nearly four year old world war with Russia. Prime Minister Keir Starmer of Britain is hosting Zelensky, along with President Emmanuel Macron of France and Chancellor Frederick Merz of Germany. Meanwhile, this doesn't sound safe. Chernobyl's new safe confinement facility may have been compromised. Oh, after a drone strike. After a drone strike in February of 2025. According to reports the the strike likely an accident, but the drone did carry a high explosive warhead, creating a hole in the structure, starting a fire and damaging the protective outside. Since then, the International Atomic Energy Agency has warned the incident could have compromised the NSC's ability to shield against radiation leaks and that they are in dire need of repair. At the time of the attack, Ukraine accused Russia of being the culprit. But Russia, for its part, denies any such claim. After the incident, there have reportedly been no increases in local radiation levels and no release as yet to be detected.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, how come all the dogs in around there are blue?

[Matthew Getz]

Two headed?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew Getz]

Can you see Chernobyl from space?

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, I'm not making this up. They're blue. They got blue dogs.

[Chris Reavers]

Where do you get a blue dog?

[Joe Soucheray]

You can get them. You can get them in Chernobyl.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, do you apply for that gig? I'm in charge of the radiation repair team.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you ever see the film Chernobyl?

[John Haidt]

I did, yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

You don't apply for that gig. The poor saps that had to do that, God bless them climbing in there. Are you kidding me? And now their dog is blue.

[John Haidt]

I would.

[Matthew Getz]

You mean sad?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, blue color.

[Matthew Getz]

Oh, I thought they were just depressed.

[John Haidt]

You should watch. Everybody should watch that. It's. Oh, it's just. I mean, aside from being the story itself, it's such a. A engrossing tale.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, it really is. When I don't trust those idiots as far as I can throw them.

[Matthew Getz]

When does that radiate? How do they cap the radiation? Or when does it go away?

[Joe Soucheray]

Matt, watch the movie. I can't answer the question. Well, then don't ask a dumb question.

[Matthew Getz]

Is it fun?

[Joe Soucheray]

Officials nudity?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew Getz]

You got any chick with big chob? She's got seven.

Cans.

[Kenny Olson]

I need fruit Full front.

[Chris Reavers]

Just tell them it's a love story.

[Joe Soucheray]

You guys are morons. You should. You should. You just reveal yourself too much. I'm the one that watch.

[Kenny Olson]

I've actually seen it, but it's more fun to be dumb.

Snob like you two.

[Chris Reavers]

So it's like Huckleberry Hound shows up because he's, you know, Blue dog.

[Joe Soucheray]

They got blue dog.

[John Haidt]

Oh, Huckleberry is blue, isn't he?

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

So is Blues Talks funny too, or Bluey Blues Clues.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're blue dogs and they talk.

[John Haidt]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Just because we don't go around bragging about how smart we are.

[Matthew Getz]

You should see the documentary that I watched. It made me really smart.

[John Haidt]

You don't even know there's a reason for that.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's no hope. There's no hope.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, there's no hope.

[Kenny Olson]

I was just sitting.

[Joe Soucheray]

I want. That means to turn his mic. I want a big switch right here.

[Matthew Getz]

This bridge building thing was on Kenny.

[John Haidt]

We could have been a great comedy team there for a second if, you know, everybody hadn't kept talking.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew Getz]

Sorry.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm good. That's all right. Bob and Ray.

[Matthew Getz]

Documentary on Bob and Ray and their funniness.

[John Haidt]

Officials in California urging people not to forage for wild mushrooms after a rise in poisoning cases caused at least one death.

[Joe Soucheray]

There you are.

[John Haidt]

The California Poison Blue Dogs wild mushrooms.

[Matthew Getz]

Classic.

[Kenny Olson]

I found a puffer out in the forest this year, and I wasn't bold enough to eat it. Everybody says eating puffer is good.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wouldn't do that. Nobody? Nobody? No.

[John Haidt]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

All right, Joe, turn my mic off.

[Matthew Getz]

Sorry for your.

[John Haidt]

Poison control System has identified 21 cases of a metoxin amatoxin poison poisoning clustered in northern California, likely resulting from death cap mushrooms. The poisoning resulted in severe liver damage in several people, including children, and at least one of the patients may need a liver transplant. Death cap mushrooms can easily be mistaken for safe edible mushrooms because they look, smell, and taste pretty much the same.

[Chris Reavers]

Who's encountering.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's the game we like to play. John, who was the first caveman that walked along the path and decided to eat a mushroom?

[Chris Reavers]

That's what I was going to ask. Ask who's out in the wild saying, I should probably eat this?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, no, we have guides now. You can get a book.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, there's a lot of people that do forage for mushrooms, Chris.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, because they don't sell them at cub for $2 a box.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, the one I don't get is. I think it's pronounced ginseng scene or ginseng Ginseng.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

If I had a forest for the of that, I'd be rich.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Has anybody watched Land Man?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I don't want to pay the extra $2 a month.

[John Haidt]

I had to stop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I love it. But did you see the episode where all these guys died out in the field? We don't know what was leaking from the ground.

[Chris Reavers]

Blue Dogs.

[Joe Soucheray]

No dogs. Oh, this is John. You're done. The hell with this.

[Chris Reavers]

Because of your request. I did find it.

[Matthew Getz]

I did.

[Joe Soucheray]

In the schools. The tensions.

[Matthew Getz]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

You. You're a real dummy to bring in anything that resembles anything 100.

[Matthew Getz]

Leave all that crap at home.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are we on the air successfully or are we having weather problems?

[Matthew Getz]

Looks like we're.

[Chris Reavers]

I think we're getting rectified here.

[Matthew Getz]

Yeah, it looks like we're getting a.

[John Haidt]

Clean bill of health.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's that mean, we're getting rectified?

[Matthew Getz]

A lot of people calling and asking, am I on the air?

[Joe Soucheray]

What are they calling and asking if.

[John Haidt]

We'Re on the air?

[Joe Soucheray]

Can you just end this? Just go away.

[Chris Reavers]

Some technical.

[Joe Soucheray]

You mean we weren't on the air?

[Matthew Getz]

Yes, you were.

[Joe Soucheray]

So.

[Matthew Getz]

Yes, you were.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Yes. Reeves Reavers.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, sir.

[Matthew Getz]

Get the two callers who are asking, what's wrong? Why can't we hear you on the air?

[Joe Soucheray]

Just a minute.

[Matthew Getz]

Do it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Caller, what's your name? Oh, hey. You guys are back on the air. Thank you.

[Matthew Getz]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

He says, boy, were we good.

[Kenny Olson]

Is this why we got fired?

[Joe Soucheray]

No wonder we were so good in the ratings.

[Kenny Olson]

I think that's why we're doing a podcast.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, they brought us in a couple years ago and they played this and said, you're done now.

[Matthew Getz]

You guys want some of this?

[Joe Soucheray]

You guys can go home. Yeah, we'll see you later. Yeah.

Oh, hey.

[Matthew Getz]

You cannot stop him. He'll just make a move.

[Joe Soucheray]

Joe Suare. I got great news.

On Trump's birthday. Now you can get free passes to the parks.

[John Haidt]

Hello.

[Kenny Olson]

Is it true he's going to make his birthday a national holiday?

[Joe Soucheray]

Holiday? Well, it says. It says here that the Trump administration is reshaping when Americans can enter national parks for free, adding Trump's birthday as a fee. Free day.

[Matthew Getz]

Oh, no.

[Joe Soucheray]

While eliminating Martin Luther King Day in Juneteenth.

[Matthew Getz]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you kidding me?

[Kenny Olson]

That's a joke.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now you go to celebrate his birthday in the park.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you get a cake and all that?

[Joe Soucheray]

I get everything. It's great. He's just party hat.

[Matthew Getz]

What's Chris Rock's line about Martin Luther King Drive or Martin Luther King Park.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's the worst part of town.

Only because they come to us now. Here we are, day 43 from the traveling Lymans. What we've done since the last email. We've crossed the equator for the third time. We're now back in the southern hemisphere and our port of call is in Darwin, Australia.

[Chris Reavers]

That's an odd route.

[Joe Soucheray]

If they keep going. God, are they at sea? Along, back and forth. That is just amazing.

[Matthew Getz]

What boat are they on?

[Joe Soucheray]

A big crucia. No matter. In a kayak.

It was on this day.

[Kenny Olson]

It doesn't take much to get him to bite, does it, Matt?

[John Haidt]

Really.

[Matthew Getz]

It's like taking candy from a small baby.

[Kenny Olson]

So easy.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in 1863, the First National bank of St. Paul was organized. The first Minnesota bank, chartered under the National Banking act of 1863, derived from a private bank owned by Parker Payne P A I N E. It would eventually lose its name through a series of mergers. Though there is still a First National bank building in St. Paul. It's a big one on the shelf.

[Matthew Getz]

She's up for sale right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's probably free for what, 10 cents on the dollar?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, you bet.

[Joe Soucheray]

Great building, by the way.

[Matthew Getz]

I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Beautiful building.

[Chris Reavers]

They still have your dictionary.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, we weren't there. We were. Oh, I thought that was your building. No, no, no.

[Chris Reavers]

On this day, Joe, today is December 8th.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1886.

In a fight over the possession of Traverse county records, citizens of Browns Valley, the old county seat, brawled in the streets of their town with farmers from Wheaton, the new seat, who arrived early in the morning to claim the records. The outnumbered invaders fled with only one load, which is later. Which was later returned to Brown's Valley. All the records were eventually moved to Wheaton without further battle. So they had a big. Todd. Todd. Todd and Travis, I think, are the T companies.

[Matthew Getz]

Yeah, the ones.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in sports, disappointment, history.

[Chris Reavers]

Who do we lose to on December 8?

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in 1978, after being traded to the Giants, Karu said he will not report what was the trade of the Giants. Carew traded the San Francisco Giants, California Angels. What is this? That's not. It wasn't Giants.

No, he went to.

He went to the Angels, right. He never got traded the Giants, did he? No. See, we got a guy in the other room for stuff like this.

[John Haidt]

Rod Carew was almost traded to the San Francisco Giants in 1978 in a deal involving Mike Ivy and Jim Dwyer, but Carew rejected the offer. The Twins ultimately traded into California.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, Joe Today is December 8th in 1984. Holy mackerel. The Vikings lost 71 to 7.

[John Haidt]

Ouch.

[Joe Soucheray]

To the 49ers. It was the greatest deficit. I think it would obviously remain so in franchise history.

[John Haidt]

Less, Steckle.

[Chris Reavers]

Right?

[Joe Soucheray]

84 would have been less.

[Matthew Getz]

But what's the most recent blowout? We know, Patrick?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, yesterday, 31.

[Joe Soucheray]

Nothing. Come on.

[Chris Reavers]

41 donut.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

On this day, Joe, today is December.

[Joe Soucheray]

Number eight in the year 2000. Glenn Taylor and Kevin McHale suspended for illegal Joe Smith deal.

[Chris Reavers]

Lost a lot of draft.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know what that means.

[Chris Reavers]

They signed him to an illegal contract.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why would Kevin. MC. Was Kevin by then the GM was the GM.

[Matthew Getz]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

His playing days were over 25 years ago. How old is Kevin? He's got to be 70.

[Chris Reavers]

He was done playing in the early 90s.

[Joe Soucheray]

Holy mackerel. Where'd the time go?

[Chris Reavers]

I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, G Ellers.

[John Haidt]

Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Haidt]

You're done.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sorry, but go ahead, John.

[John Haidt]

There's no such thing as a 717 loss to the Niners in Vikings history.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Matthew Getz]

What's the biggest.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did they play The Giant, the 49ers in 1984?

[John Haidt]

Let's check.

[Chris Reavers]

You could look up December 8th, 1984.

[Matthew Getz]

Kevin McHale is 67. I'm on the air.

His birthday is December 19th.

[Joe Soucheray]

Coming up. John, what are you finding?

[John Haidt]

I'm finding Nothing. They're all 51 to 7. We got a 51 to 7.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, we've got, we've got a typo here.

[John Haidt]

Okay. Yes. 51.

[Chris Reavers]

Understandable.

[John Haidt]

December 8th.

[Chris Reavers]

There we go.

[Joe Soucheray]

So that's today on this day. What year was that, John?

[John Haidt]

1984.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, that's 26.

[Kenny Olson]

All right, I'll talk to you guys tomorrow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, Geology.

[Matthew Getz]

Send her out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why do you keep playing that?

[Chris Reavers]

I, I don't, I, I, I don't.

[John Haidt]

Keep playing.

[Matthew Getz]

Why do you keep playing that?

[Chris Reavers]

Just keeps firing. And I'm not exactly sure why.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you a little wound up?

[Matthew Getz]

It's ten to two. My God. I gotta be back to the aeropuerto. Senoro.

[Joe Soucheray]

Goodbye. Goodbye.

[Chris Reavers]

Favor and subscribe to all of our channels, which is YouTube. Bracey's gonna walk in Facebook, you're gonna Instagram.

[Matthew Getz]

Just.

[Chris Reavers]

You know what? We'll see you tomorrow.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, see you.