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Summary

Garage Logic – January 29, 2026
Episode: "The Tribal View of Life Explored in Great Detail Today in Garage Logic"
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor")
Contributors: Chris Reivers, Kenny Olson, John Height ("Johnny"), Josh Arnold (Money Talk)

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Main Theme / Episode Overview

This episode of Garage Logic is dedicated to examining tribalism in modern American life—how people increasingly adopt rigid, group-based worldviews (or "tribes") and how this mindset influences politics, standards, public discourse, and even civic interactions. Host Joe Soucheray and the GL crew discuss recent controversies, social changes, and how the loss of shared standards and faith traditions has contributed to ideological silos. Notable local and national news is analyzed through this “tribal” lens.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Simple Joy of Non-Tribal Interactions

[02:13–05:17]

• Joe recounts a pleasant, straightforward conversation he had with a St. Paul water department worker, refreshing in its lack of political or tribal undertone.

• The crew contrasts this with the norm, where most public discourse is colored by suspicion or ideology.

• Joe argues that such civil, everyday exchanges feel rare due to overwhelming tribal negativity, but Kenny notes these interactions still happen often outside the media spotlight.

  Quote:
  "We forget that these conversations can actually be had... We're so screwed up now, everything is tainted by some political leaning." – Joe Soucheray [04:00]

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2. Tribalism as Civic Religion

[06:00–12:00]

• Joe introduces an email from listener Rick Schmidberger, referencing both previous discussions of Dylan Allman’s and Garth Paltridge’s ideas about tribalism and “climate change as a quasi-religion.”

• Paltridge’s quote is read and dissected; it argues that belief in climate change (and other ideological causes) has replaced traditional religious adherence for some, serving as a new system of faith and control.

• The panel discusses whether contemporary causes—right and left—function as "new religions" inspiring devotion and dogma.

  Quote:
  "Mankind...has managed to remove the beliefs of existing religions from its consideration and now misses them – as a replacement, it has manufactured a set of beliefs about climate change that can be used to guide and ultimately to control human behavior."
  – Garth Paltridge (read by Joe Soucheray) [08:00]

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3. Standards, “Cancel Culture,” and Protected Status

[13:07–18:38]

• Joe uses the local example of Chantill Allen, a St. Paul School Board member, who allegedly manufactured a racial incident but suffered no meaningful consequences—questioning if tribal protectionism overrides accountability.

  • The panel muses on the decline of public standards and responsibility in institutions.
  • They debate whether consequences for public bad behavior are now determined by tribal affiliation rather than objective standards.

  Quote:
  "There used to be standards... but because of her protected status, seen in the light of victimhood, it was okay for her to create that mess."
  – Joe Soucheray [17:25]

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4. The Ben Bankus Comedy Club Cancellation

[19:28–24:12]

• A discussion of the Canadian comic Ben Bankus being “canceled” in St. Paul following offensive material about a local shooting—a segment rich in debate over business decisions, free speech, and tribal outrage from both sides.

  • The GL crew agrees the club was within its rights, but uses the example to illustrate how almost any news can be spun as “tribal warfare.”
  • They find that about half the country would find his jokes unacceptable—and the division itself is tribal.

  Quote:
  "This moron has a right to say something that idiotic. But I don’t have to hire you to say it...Go and stand on a street corner if you want and say it."
  – Joe Soucheray [23:13]

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5. Are Tribal Divides Ruining Standards Everywhere?

[26:34–30:02]

• The hosts explore whether standards have declined nationwide, from government to social discourse.

• Kenny blames the internet and social media for amplifying tribal behavior and eroding basic civility.

• Joe attributes the decline to the rise of “tribalism,” which social media supercharges.

  Quote:
  "My answer is tribalism... It's almost as though people are mentally jockeying all the time to figure out which side of history they want to fall on."
  – Joe Soucheray [27:49]

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6. Age, Technology, and the Shrinking Middle

[28:22–29:53]

• The conversation shifts to generational behaviors; older individuals with flip phones and low-tech lifestyles are deemed more stable and less tribal.
• The crew debates whether the moderate “middle” is shrinking as more people are pressured to pick sides.

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7. Which Side is More Aggressive? Right vs Left

[30:16–31:12]

• Kenny believes the left is more aggressive, but Joe and others counter that currently it’s the far right showing physical aggression on the streets, challenging listeners to “think logically.”

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8. Revisiting the Paltridge Quote – Replacing Religion with Politics

[31:14–37:52]

• The original Paltridge passage is further dissected, now applying its logic to causes beyond climate change (immigration, racial politics, etc.).

• The crew draws parallels between the loss of collective faith practices and the rise of cause-based tribal identity, impacting how society does or doesn’t form consensus.

  Quote:
  "Those forms of worship, those adherences to a particular theology, they're gone and have been replaced by these secular things we're devoted to..."
  – Joe Soucheray [35:47]

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9. Civil Society—Lost or Salvageable?

[38:09–41:50]

• The hosts reflect on how politics infects and divides everyday life in urban areas, in contrast with rural or “outstate” Minnesota where people more routinely set aside politics in daily interactions.

  Quote:
  "The closer you get to the country’s tallest buildings, it’s terrible. It’s dominating, it’s obsessive, it’s controlling. It’s horrible."
  – Joe Soucheray [40:54]

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10. News, Tribal Spin, and the “Game” of Interpreting Stories

[46:41–54:55]

• Joe introduces current events (FBI action in Georgia election investigation, local news, police stories) and asks the crew to determine: is this event tribal or non-tribal?

• Kenny shares how any detail he reports on his traffic account is instantly pounced on for political/tribal spin from all sides, despite being intended as neutral.

  Quote:
  "So my dumb little tweet caused a huge fight on Twitter when it wasn't even my intention. So I don't use the words homeless anymore. I call them campers."
  – Kenny Olson [54:34]

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11. Trust, Investigation Fatigue, and the Impossibility of Certainty

[49:45–51:41]

• The group discusses endless investigations (elections, fraud, audits) and the impossibility of establishing trust; both “tribes” will perpetually suspect the other regardless of outcome.

• The consensus: official inquiries never fully resolve divisions, and increasing transparency does not restore trust.

  Quote:
  "Who do you trust? ...I don't trust anything."
  – Joe Soucheray [50:21]

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12. Institutionally-Driven Tribal Narrative

[56:15–58:28]

• In light of Amy Klobuchar’s shift on immigration enforcement rhetoric versus her recent positions, the hosts note how politicians often shift stances to align with their emerging “tribe.”
• The group points out, “That’s pre-tribe. I say 2006 is even pre-tribe.” [57:45]

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13. Non-Political Community Stories and Oblique Satire

[81:13–83:14]

• The episode closes with some local history from the Minnesota Almanac (“on this day”) and the hosts bantering about the changing makeup of communities, churches, and standards across the decades—a wry nod to how much things have changed and how nostalgia still has power.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On tribalized society: “I don't want to belong to a tribe. I don't want to say one side is right, the other side can't possibly be right. I can't do that. That's not me.” – Joe Soucheray [40:03]

• On digital/social media tribalism: “Now, everybody behaves like they're anonymous and on the internet and there's no more polite society.” – Kenny Olson [27:34]

• On the tribal “spin” of news: “Every single story we read, we can go, ‘well, let's look at it through the tribal lens.’” – John Height [55:03]

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Segment Topic | Time | |------------------------ |-------------| | Water Dept story & non-tribal interaction | 02:13–05:17 | | Introduction of Paltridge & tribal “religion” | 06:00–12:00 | | Standards, Chantill Allen story | 13:07–18:38 | | Ben Bankus comedy cancellation discussion | 19:28–24:12 | | Standards in institutions | 26:34–30:02 | | Generational divide, shrinking middle | 28:22–29:53 | | Revisiting religion and civic identity | 31:14–37:52 | | Distrust, endless investigations | 49:45–51:41 | | “Tribal or not” news game | 53:04–54:55 | | History banter, episode close | 81:13–83:14 |

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Tone and Style

• Language: Direct, conversational, often playful but sometimes somber or reflective.
• Style: Bantering, filled with inside jokes, but also serious and analytic when dissecting larger phenomena.
• Tone: Satirical, nostalgic, occasionally exasperated, but always grounded in an ethos of “common sense” and a longing for shared civility.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a thoughtful—and often humorous—exploration of how tribalism has replaced shared standards, faith traditions, and civic trust in American life. The GL crew laments this loss, searching for hope in those rare, non-tribal interactions. The core message: tribalism is both pervasive and destructive, but moments of genuine community and charity still occur—and should be savored, remembered, and championed.

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For listeners who missed it, this summary provides a clear entry point into the episode’s arguments, inside humor, and unique Garage Logic style.

Transcript

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Randall]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic, with Chris Reavers manning Technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom and of course the rookie here, Flashlight King, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Su. I had a nice chat today with a water department employee.

[Kenny Olson]

You're kidding.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I relished it. It was a wonderful chat. Civil, no politics, no opinions.

[Kenny Olson]

How this happened? Were you standing in line maybe at Cub Foods or waiting to get a cup of coffee or even at gas pump?

[Joe Soucheray]

Out for a walk?

[Kenny Olson]

How did this happen where you ran?

[Joe Soucheray]

I saw his truck and pulled up alongside him and motioned for him to roll down the window. And I rolled down the window and I said, how long after you guys repair a break before you can drink the water in your house? And I said, because she's shooting a lot of air. He Said, shoot a lot of that air out of there. You got to wait a few minutes. Let her clear out.

[Kenny Olson]

So he knew his stuff.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Did you introduce yourself as.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I did not.

[Kenny Olson]

The one and only Joe Sue.

[Joe Soucheray]

I did not introduce myself.

[Kenny Olson]

Garage Lodge. I'm a fake mayor.

[Joe Soucheray]

In fact, it was right over in this neighborhood. It wasn't even in my neighborhood, but in my neighborhood they've been fixing a water break. And for two days now, if you turn on the water, you still get air being expelled. And I was sicker than a dog. Yesterday when the water first came back on, I.

[Kenny Olson]

So you're drinking it?

[Joe Soucheray]

What have I always said about St. Paul?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, it's your own fault then. Actually, if you want to drink from your water, you're going to get sick.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why would it suddenly be have manure?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, you half wet. Everybody knows you don't drink water after they fix the main.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, how long do you wait?

[Kenny Olson]

A couple months.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, geez.

[Chris Reivers]

Geez. 612-895-2440 or visit hoffmanwater.com There you go.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, there.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's Hoffman. Would have come in handy.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, since you've mentioned the water.

[Joe Soucheray]

Break, can I finish my point?

[Chris Reivers]

My oldest son and I, we always watch the school closings this time of the year. And he said, dad, that school got closed because of a sewage line breakage.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, yeah. Now can I finish my larger point?

[John Randall]

Sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

We forget that these conversations can actually be had. The. We're so screwed up now.

[Kenny Olson]

How screwed up are we?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, we're so screwed up that everything is tainted by some political leaning or the other. And it was just nice to. Hey, you're a city guy. I'm a. I'm a taxpayer. I got a few questions. The guy was cool, blah, blah, blah. That happens.

[Kenny Olson]

How sheltered are you? Seriously pretty. What? You. What happened to you?

[Joe Soucheray]

Listen to this guy who lives like a hermit in the middle of some tree stump area lake.

[Kenny Olson]

Listen, Mr. Breaking News. What happened to you this morning goes on all day every day with Americans everywhere.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're right.

[Kenny Olson]

And we. What happened to you this morning is not rare.

[Joe Soucheray]

It is.

[Kenny Olson]

No, it's not rare at all. This is how we're living.

[Joe Soucheray]

Of course we are. And we forget that because everything's tainted. Miserably.

[Kenny Olson]

You forget that because you're a grump and you focus on the negative.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're full of beeswax.

[Kenny Olson]

That is a shock.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're just full of bees.

[Kenny Olson]

Actually, I gotta use that one. Beeswax.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, maybe this will help illustrate what I'm Attempting to convey.

[Kenny Olson]

Please, I'll shut up now.

[Joe Soucheray]

Since when?

[Kenny Olson]

We don't know that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got a nice note. Does he say, don't use my name? Hope I can use his name. Rick Schmidberger. That's kind of a neat name, isn't it? Schmidberger. Schmitty.

[Kenny Olson]

Schmitty.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Chris Reivers]

Hail you.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was pretty good. He's referring to a letter I must have read Monday that quoted Dylan Allman about how tribalism has taken over the country. And he said that got me thinking about a quote you used to read all the time from Garth Partridge on climate change being a quasi religion. Do you all remember my keen interest in Garth? I got it here. Cause I keep it out. I keep it out in the other room. Garth Paltridge is a Australian physicist and highly decorated academic of the non failed kind. And he wrote this. Let's see if we have a date on this. This is from. I've been hanging onto this since April of 2019.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

And he wrote this for Quadrant Magazine online. And let me just refresh you who Garth is. Look it up for me, rook, so you can give me just a brief bio.

[Kenny Olson]

Garth.

[Joe Soucheray]

Garth. Well, here I have it. I have it. Never mind. He's an emeritus professor at the University of Tasmania and a fellow of the Australian Academy of Sciences. He is the author of the Climate caper Facts and Fallacies of Global Warming, and he was a chief research scientist with the CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research. I don't know what that's an acronym for, but he's smarter than the average podcast host. And I'll read his quote that I've been clinging to for years after I read Schmitty's email. The letter you read yesterday with the quote from Dylan Allman about how tribalism has taken over the country today led me to think about a quote you used to read all the time from Garth Paltridge and climate change being a quasi religion. Then he notes. Read Garth's quote here. Okay, I will. I guess I thought I was going to wait a bit, but I'll read it here. Perhaps the whole idea of being fair to the people of the future should be reversed. Perhaps they can easily afford to owe us something. In retrospect, the bottom line of politically correct thought on the matter, the thought that we must collectively do something drastic now to prevent climate change in the future, is so full of holes that it brings the overall sanity of mankind into question. For what it is worth, one possible theory is that mankind, or at least that fraction of it that has become both over educated and more delicate as a result of a massive increase of its wealth in recent times has managed to remove the beliefs of existing religions from its consideration and now it misses them as a replacement. It has manufactured a set of beliefs about climate change that can be used to guide and ultimately to control human behavior. The beliefs are similar to those of the established religions that they are more or less unprovable in any strict scientific sense. I've always admired that paragraph of writing because he's right. It's insane to think that you can understand and take into account all the variables of the earth's atmosphere and its weather and its climate and come up with something that would hold true against future prognostication. So I'm a Garth Paltridge guy.

[Kenny Olson]

Got it.

[Joe Soucheray]

I like what he thinks. And this guy goes on to write we're back to the email from Schmid. If our country's lack of faith at one time was directed towards climate change like Partridge claimed Paltridge. But now with climate change being forgotten and he's not wrong, it's not that it's been forgotten, it's been put in its place. I wonder if it has morphed into something that we are seeing today. If the cultivated resistance to evidence that Allman talked about is true on both sides, MAGA and progressives and people are willing to die for their cause, how can this not be an ideological battle? That to me only makes sense when they will not see any other view than their own. Take Nakimi Levy, what's her last name? Armstrong, for example. Actually he uses Chantill Allen. Take Chantill Allen for example. In years past if a school board member stormed a church service, there would be immediate cries from people for them to resign. Today, not a peep about it. Is this because she is fighting a religious war alongside her fellow mysterians who believe what she is doing is right and just let me pause right there. Well, no, I won't pause. I'll read. This can be applied to Trump and how the MAGA movement thinks of him as a God who can do no wrong. January 6th, bombing drug boats, no due process, what is playing out here, etc. The same could be applied to the last presidency and his bumbles or even walls. With all the fraud in our media that skews the information, is it based on a new religious belief? I think that is why the rest of us, stuck in the middle just can't wrap our heads around either extreme and their thoughts or actions. This may be why we can't have conversations with other people like I just had with the water guy. Okay. That had nothing to do with any of these conversations, which is what I was trying to say. This may be why we can't have conversations with other people about it either, because it goes against their belief down to their soul. Nobody likes to be wrong, but if it's a moral belief you are arguing against, they will be blinded by emotion from their own new faith. Keep pushing back, Rick. From Stacy. I think he raises a wonderful point, an absolutely wonderful point. Now, let me speak to Chantill Allen for a moment. Would it be a fair statement? Now, Chantill Allen has never done anything. What's the correct and charitable way to put it? She's never had a job that could be measured for achievement. She's a professional activist.

[Kenny Olson]

Got it.

[Joe Soucheray]

And she got herself a gig on the St. Paul school board. Okay. She. And again, I've brought this up many times. She was confronted by police three or four years ago for attempting to, out of whole cloth, a racial incident at a restaurant she happened to be at.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where she put on Facebook, come on down and join me at this restaurant. Let's give these people some grief. And it was all stemming from apparently she had asked or was told or was asked if she could move tables because the one she was net wasn't clean or whatever. Okay. And it turned out to be completely false. She manufactured it. She treated the help at that restaurant poorly. There was no racial incident whatsoever. And yet that did not affect her position on the school board. Now, here's my statement, and I'm wondering if it's a fair statement. Was there a time in America where that kind of behavior would have or should have cost you your position on a public board? Is that a reasonable question, or am I taking away her rights?

[Kenny Olson]

I think the question that would even precede that is people didn't do that before. That wasn't done well.

[Joe Soucheray]

But people. Right, right. But there's a racial industry. And she, in her clumsy way, was trying to take advantage of that by trying to be this heroine who would point out, I'm being treated unfairly by this restaurant, which she was at all. And so she created this mess that required the police to show up and determine that. Well, lady, you really don't. You have nothing to stand on here. Was there a time when that would have affected the way voters thought about her?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes. They would not have been staff.

[Joe Soucheray]

Anyone, John.

[John Randall]

Well, it should have.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Kenny.

[John Randall]

I certainly believe it.

[Kenny Olson]

I can't answer you. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, let's answer the question that wasn't asked. Right?

[Kenny Olson]

It is on purpose.

That was by design.

[Chris Reivers]

Damn it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's answer the question based on the Garth Partridge belief that we have new religions among us. You might even say there's a leftist religion, and you might even say there's a rightist religion. Your tribe theory. Tribe theory. All right, all right. Given the tribe theory, it's not surprising to me at all that she would not have been held to some higher expectations as a school board member because she is protected A, by her race and B, by the idea that because of her race. I'm going out on a limb here. Because of her race, she could never be considered to have done something wrong.

[Kenny Olson]

She got carte blanche.

[Joe Soucheray]

Staff, anyone? Anyone?

[Kenny Olson]

I don't like the threat of losing your job, always being thrown out.

[Joe Soucheray]

I am trying to be very charitable here. The way I'm stating it. I know, but.

[Chris Reivers]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, okay.

[Kenny Olson]

As much as I dislike her. Oh, my God, I dislike her.

But if you manufacture that story.

[Joe Soucheray]

Different question. All right, Stick to my original question.

[Kenny Olson]

Try me from there.

[Joe Soucheray]

A time as. Let's just make it as recently in the last 50 years, which is only 1976. Wow. Was the. Was in the last 50 years, would there still have been room for civil discourse to say to Chantill Allen, what you did was wrong?

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now. That will not be said. That will not be said.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, it's so tribal now that her side will say. Will say she had the perfect right. And our side would say, you know what you're asking. You're a moron.

[Chris Reivers]

Sorry, Ken. You know what you're asking in a roundabout way. The lessening of standards. There used to be standards.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right, of course. And Chantill Allen should be expected to uphold standards as much as any other person. But because of her protected status, seen in the light of victimhood, it was okay for her to create that mess.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Joe Soucheray]

And it has had no effect. I didn't intend for this show to be about Chantill Allen, but it's a great example. Where was I going? Oh. And as a result of it being okay for her to have created that mess with no repercussions, she continues to enjoy a spot on the school board, and I don't think voters have ever taken into consideration the stunt she did. It was not, you know, it wasn't the end of the world stunt. It certainly wasn't.

[Kenny Olson]

But it was a lie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Major in scope. But she was lying. And it involved a police department, and they had to come and say, you have nothing here, lady. What are you doing? And she walked away and nothing ever came of it.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, see, to me you're talking about cancel culture. And in my mind, and I don't know if I'm right or not, the bar is a lot higher. If you're going to cancel somebody on the left compared to canceling somebody on.

[Joe Soucheray]

The right, what does that suggest?

[Kenny Olson]

You tell me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, if that's true, if that's true, it would suggest, and I don't know the answer, it would suggest then that those on the left are more successful at forgiving this and allowing it to continue.

[Kenny Olson]

But they wouldn't if it were. The shoe was on the other side.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you see where a Canadian comic was coming to town today or this weekend for six shows at a place in St. Paul and he's been canceled.

[John Randall]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

What? John, please, could you quickly go on the Twin Cities, the twincities.com website and find me this fellow's name? I personally think that I understand completely why he was canceled.

[John Randall]

Ben Bankus.

[Joe Soucheray]

Ben Bankus, a Canadian. Could you fill us in, John? And just the facts there.

[John Randall]

Yeah. Apparently he, in one of his bits, was doing jokes. Jokes about Renee.

[Kenny Olson]

Good.

[Joe Soucheray]

When? What were the jokes, John? If you go deeper into the story, you can find the jokes.

[John Randall]

I couldn't find it.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're in there. They're in the story.

[John Randall]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, they're towards the end.

[Kenny Olson]

Why would he do that?

[Joe Soucheray]

It's an online story, only with our deadlines. It certainly didn't make.

[Kenny Olson]

It appears to be a conservative from the headlines I'm reading.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, yeah, well, I.

[Kenny Olson]

This is the first I've ever heard of.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right, me too. So I've never heard of him.

[John Randall]

But.

[Joe Soucheray]

And what's the name of the facility, John? I've never heard of that.

[John Randall]

Hang on, hang on, hang on.

[Chris Reivers]

According to the Star Tribune article, and I can only see the headline, the comedian would have been one of the strongest draws in Laugh Camp Comedy Club's history. What's Laugh Camp Comedy Club?

[Joe Soucheray]

Apparently there's a place in St. Paul named Laugh Camp where stand ups are showing up.

[Kenny Olson]

It's a bar. Cabaret.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm unaware of it. Where is it?

[Kenny Olson]

It's in downtown. Let me find the. I don't know where the address is.

[Joe Soucheray]

St. Paul has a new business.

[Kenny Olson]

He might not be a conservative. I can't tell here. Why would you pick a side, though, if you're a comedian? Boy, that's a. That's a sure way to go nowhere.

[John Randall]

John, you're not finding his jokes Just answer Kenny's question. A ton of really good comedians who do weeklies in New York just show up and do them.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Doing jokes about Minneapolis for two weeks.

[Kenny Olson]

Are they everyone?

But is that Minneapolis or is that specifically.

[John Randall]

It's the situations themselves they're making fun of, you know? Well, everyone I've seen, you know, making fun of ice in the government, basically.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

And he was saying things like, it's a shame she wasn't shot 10 times.

[Chris Reivers]

This was supposed to be one of the biggest weekends in Laugh Camp Comedy club's history. Six sold out shows with a red hot national headliner. Instead, the St. Paul club's owner, Bill Collins, canceled Ben Backus performances after footage circulated of the comedian ridiculing Renee Goode, who was fatally shot by an ice agent. Honestly, I don't see any way we can safely present this show in the current climate, Collins said earlier this week, right before informing ticket holders of his decision on how they can get refunds. I'm not sure any amount of security or pre planning would mitigate the liability that I'd face if something were to happen. Collins began to worry about the shows and as Jen mentioned in New York just a few days after Goode's death, the clips, one of which has over 369,000 likes on Instagram, drew the ire of several local comics, including Bailey Murphy. It's 150 seat space on 490 Robert Street North.

[Kenny Olson]

It's in the Rossmore building.

[John Randall]

Oh, okay, Joe, I am not seeing the jokes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I read them in my online version. Something about and I hope her dog's all right.

[John Randall]

Oh, here we go.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, go ahead, John, the clip.

[John Randall]

This, I'll just read it verbatim, so don't hold me to it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[John Randall]

He said now for a moment of silence for any good. Really hope that dog's okay and her pet, her last name was Good. That's what I said after they shot her in the face. Bakers goes on to call Good a dumb retarded lesbian who should have been shot 10 minutes before.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, now that's bold to try that. Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now here. Here's where I would say I would have canceled him too. And the guy, the owner of the club's got a good reason. He doesn't need any bs. He doesn't need violence. He doesn't need a protest in his place. So that's fine with me. He has every right in the world, as far as I'm concerned, to say that, but I don't have to hire him.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

I think maybe in the Twin Cities, that'd be tough. The club owner probably did the right thing there.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think so.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

But, but, but look at it. Look at it from the tribal aspect.

[Kenny Olson]

Half.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's just use the halves. Half the country would think that's funny and half would not think it's funny.

[Chris Reivers]

Right?

[John Randall]

What? There's got to be at least a quarter that wouldn't think it's funny.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[John Randall]

For other reasons. Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, yeah, I hope.

[John Randall]

But even if they were not for protesters, etcetera, they still wouldn't find that funny.

[Chris Reivers]

And regardless of whether it's funny or not. You know what I mean? The whole decision is based upon a guy making a business decision.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's.

[Joe Soucheray]

Which is fine with me. He has a right to make a business decision 100%. And this moron has a right to say something that idiotic. But I don't have to hire you to say it. Exactly right. Go and stand on a street corner if you want and say it.

[John Randall]

He's had other canceled performances in Toronto because apparently he made jokes about the indigenous people in Canada.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, boy.

[John Randall]

So several things said. See ya.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, so he's going with the whole shock jock value and he's going to end up getting.

[Kenny Olson]

He'll end up Opie and Anthony here.

[Joe Soucheray]

He'll be. He'll be hosting SNL before long. No.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, God, no. They would know. My God.

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

So this is down the street from Keys and by SWATI restaurants.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know.

[Kenny Olson]

It's so hard to maintain that level when you're doing that kind of material.

[Joe Soucheray]

Real.

[Kenny Olson]

Like Andrew Dice Clay.

No, this would be worse.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is. This is worse. Andrew Dre Clay looks like a Boy Scout compared to this.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. No, this is more. Did you ever hear any of Opie and Anthony? Oh, yeah, that's. That's some of that stuff, you know, and it's funny and it works for people, but damn, it's hard to maintain that kind of.

That's not even a matter of too soon. That's just a. No.

[John Randall]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, it's not, but it is in this market.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Joe Sucere when you go to. Well.

[Kenny Olson]

A store.

[Joe Soucheray]

Standards, Standards. Let's get back to attempting to understand this. Do our institutions have the same standards that they had as recently as 50 years ago?

[Kenny Olson]

Give an example.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who.

[Mike Schoonover]

Who?

[Kenny Olson]

City council.

[Joe Soucheray]

How about Congress?

[Kenny Olson]

Much worse these days.

[Joe Soucheray]

The presidency.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Law enforcement, immigration enforcement, School boards.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, you're lumping them all. I think all of them need to be measured on their own accord.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. But I think standards have low.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Standards have suffered greatly. Why have they suffered greatly?

[Kenny Olson]

Do you want my dumb answer?

[Joe Soucheray]

Sure.

[Kenny Olson]

Or is that rhetorical?

I can.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm going to take my shot at it, but you go ahead.

[Kenny Olson]

My dumb answer is that the Internet has ruined everything now. Everybody behaves like they're anonymous and on the Internet and there's no more polite society.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's gone.

[Kenny Olson]

People are bold and loud and stupid.

[Joe Soucheray]

My answer is tribalism.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that's part of the Internet thing. I think the Internet brought on. I think social media brought on tribalism.

Meaning, Kenny, somebody wouldn't go up to somebody and say, you're fat, you should die like we do on social media.

Did we behave this way in the 80s, 70s, 60s?

[Joe Soucheray]

No. I think it's endlessly fascinating. It's almost as though people are mentally jockeying all the time to figure out which side of history they want to fall on.

[Kenny Olson]

But can you pinpoint it to an age group? Baby boomers didn't behave that way.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think they are now. I Do you think they caught up? Yes. I think the whole boomer crowd is changed their ways, is thick in the way of tribalism. Not all on one side or the other.

[Kenny Olson]

I wouldn't say all of them. But a great degree. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Great degree.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because they're at least A generation that didn't go to the failed academy. They know how to read and write. They think, they talk. You know who the younger people. I'm. That's a lost cause.

[Kenny Olson]

You know who I've noticed are the most stable are the guys and gals. Well, almost Joe. The Boomers and the Xers with flip phones. And they don't have. They don't have Facebook. They don't have Twitter. They don't do social. Those people, to me, are the best people we have right now. What about.

We always talk about 10%, 10%, 80. Is that shrinking? There's 80% of the people don't want to fight for either side. On that extreme, 80% don't.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's pretty generous on your part.

[Kenny Olson]

Is it 20, 20 and 60 now? I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

How about 30? 30 and 40? Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

I think you. A lot of people are being forced to take a side.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll go 30, 30, and 40.

[Kenny Olson]

And if you don't take a side, you're just as bad as the other side, whichever side that might be.

[Joe Soucheray]

And one side will hate you if you don't hate the people they want you to hate enough.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, well, then don't give them the equal 30. 30. So maybe it's 40. 20. TGI Friday.

[Chris Reivers]

Ladies and gentlemen. That was rookie turning to math in real time.

[Kenny Olson]

But I believe that the left is more aggressive than the far right.

You know what we need to do?

[Joe Soucheray]

How can you say that?

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Think about it logically. It's the far right right now that is exercising the physical control that you now see on the streets. Is that not aggressive?

[Kenny Olson]

It's very. Yeah, it's too aggressive for me. I'm not.

You know what we should do, Joe? What you should do with this show? What is we should go film. Well, we should go to Phil Mackey and beg to start a sports show.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why in the hell didn't Belichick get in the hall of Fame?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

Listen, now, listen.

[John Randall]

We.

[Kenny Olson]

We've got baseball. We can do NFL. I'll do anything racing related. I'd be. It'd be awesome.

We got the Olympic team, the gals.

Roundtable, the round table.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, swinging the best on that one.

[Kenny Olson]

Kenny, let's get back to the show.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I want to break down Gar's quote again. Well, NASCAR's going back to work next.

[Kenny Olson]

Month with the Daytona 500, brought to.

You by Mountain Dew.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here, let's. Let's read Garth's quote again. The bottom line of politically correct thought on the matter. Okay, the matter he's talking about is climate change, but the key phrase would be politically correct. Thought so you could plug anything you want in there instead of climate change. All right, so let's plug something in immigration. Should we plug that in?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, let's give it a go.

[Joe Soucheray]

And correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps the whole idea of being fair to. No, the bottom line of politically correct thought on the matter, the thought that we must collectively induce something drastic now to prevent illegal immigration in the future. I don't think that'll work because I think what one tribe wants is unfettered immigration. Just anything goes. Come on in. And we're on stolen land anyway, so what difference it makes?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, they're arguing the pickup of Juan Juarez, who isn't a target, who just happens to be walking by and looks like a Mexican guy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, the part where he's correct is that the overall sanity of mankind is being called into question. All right, for what it's worth, one possible theory is that mankind, or at least a fraction of it, that has become both over educated and more delicate. And boy, can't we say that's true. We are a delicate bunch of people.

[Kenny Olson]

Here, you know, eggshells.

[Joe Soucheray]

Over educated and more delicate as a result of massive increase in wealth, which I happen to also agree with. We've always talked about vast prosperity. I mean, the poorest people in this country own two color sets and a car. Yes, there is, there is three trucks. Three trucks. I know.

[Kenny Olson]

Very poor, struggling.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know. Has, as a result of massive increase of its wealth in recent times, has managed to remove the beliefs of existing religions from its consideration and now misses them. Anyone have a comment on that?

[Kenny Olson]

Meaning that their cause is now a new religion and forget conventional Christ followers or non Christians.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I think. And I'll just use this 50 year framework, I think because that's only 1976. I can't believe that. So you go back 50 years. I would suspect that the wheel has already been turning to lead us into this direction we're in now. But at 50 years ago, it was not nearly as striding. I think 50 years ago people went to church.

[John Randall]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

And chances are 50 years ago the guy two pews over might have been a college professor and the guy three pews over the other way might have been a police officer. And the guy four pews in front of you might own a hardware store, was a school teacher.

[Kenny Olson]

You're describing 10:30 Mass at Nativity 50 years ago.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know. And then if you weren't At Mass, you were at a Louisiana Lutheran celebration, or you were at the synagogue, or you were. You were a Baptist or whatever. And, and. And then church was over. And then you led your life in a way that suggested a commonality. You know, you see each other at the store. How you doing? And these, you know, your kids are on the same Little League teams. Oh, boy. How's Johnny doing? He's doing great. And on this and that and, and, and so what Garth is suggesting is that's gone. Those forms of worship, those adherences to a particular theology, they're gone and have been replaced by these secular things we're devoted to, in this case, climate change. And he's saying that's not fulfilling enough. People miss. They miss the touchstone that humans might have had with actual faith.

[Kenny Olson]

But do they know they miss it?

[Joe Soucheray]

According to Garth, they miss it. And so they are attempting to replace it. Rather than just return to church and lead your life, they're replacing it with new forms of worship. In this case, again, it was climate change. And harsh reality has now hit the climate change people right in the face because AI came along and is gonna demand so much electricity that climate change. Hey, you climate change people, shut up for a while. We gotta do this. We gotta build a new power plant. On and on and on and on. Climate change has been taken off the agenda, however temporarily. I hope forever, because it was always nonsense, because I've always sensed this. I've always sensed it was nothing but. It was nothing but a means to redefine human behavior. It was always a means that was going to be used to control human behavior, whether here or in Uganda or in Berlin or in Omaha. It was always a means to change the way we act and behave. And I always thought it was BS.

[Kenny Olson]

And your guy, Garth, his argument is, yes, there's global warming, but not enough to make a difference or change the world.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, he's calling in to question, in fact, the sanity of people who would believe such a thing. He said the argument is so full of holes. Well, where does he say it now? As a replacement? It has manufactured, meaning humans, a set of beliefs about climate change that can be used to guide and ultimately control human behavior. Well, why don't we replace some words here as a replacement? It is manufacturer's set of beliefs about the way America works or how it should work that can be used to guide and ultimately control human behavior. Does that sentence work with the replacement words?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

The beliefs are similar to those of the established religions in that they are more or less unprovable in a strict scientific sense. Okay. You can't say we don't live in interesting times.

[Kenny Olson]

I'll say. I wish we could play that.

[Joe Soucheray]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

I wish we could play our sounder that we have about the Beach Boys, about interesting times.

[Joe Soucheray]

I just wasn't made for these times. But we weren't. Thank you.

[Kenny Olson]

It's interesting that this direction of the conversation, Joe, kind of mirrors this headline I've been looking at all morning from Alpha News. Retired deputy sheriff says in Minneapolis politics overshadow responsible law enforcement. And it talks about how Chief o' Hara has kind of traded in his badge for a protest whistle. I just thought kind of an interesting juxtaposition there.

[Joe Soucheray]

It never would have struck me prior to today that having a little brief chat with a water department employee. I'm not. I'm very serious about this. Could have proven to be so refreshing. You never would have thought that in.

[Kenny Olson]

A million years, 50 years ago, ever.

[John Randall]

You know, part of. If I can go back to Kenny's earlier argument about the Internet.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Part of what he just said, and I think that's what causes a lot of our problems. He had that story about O'. Hara. If you go online, you'll find 50 stories on both sides.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. Yeah.

[John Randall]

That people use to justify and back up their argument.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Without that Internet, you know, perhaps it'd be easier to live in the world, just talk about stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

John, that's. And maybe you agree with me. That's the worst part about the job. The job we're doing is just pouring through the left and the right and the. Oh, my God. It's just exhausting.

[Joe Soucheray]

Unique because we've held out tribal membership.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want to belong to a tribe. I don't want to say one side is right. The other side can't possibly be right. I can't do that. That's not me. When you go to bed at night, you got to be square with the world.

[John Randall]

Yeah. That's. See, and that to me. I can't even. What you said. I wish I could have an opinion, know it myself, and not have to.

[Kenny Olson]

Share and then go on with my life.

[John Randall]

Just stop on the street corner and talk to the guy who's doing the water.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, I'm not thinking about politics. When I open my kitchen window and shoot a squirrel with my.22, I'm surprised.

[Joe Soucheray]

You even opened the window.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what, Joe?

What you experienced this morning, I think is one of the main reasons I love living out here. We don't spend a lot of time talking about politics.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, it's terrible. The closer you get to the country's tallest buildings. It's terrible. Yeah, it's dominating, it's obsessive, it's controlling. It's horrible. It's horrible.

[Kenny Olson]

When I pull over to pull somebody out of the snow bank off the highway, I don't question their politics before I hook up the toe strap, you know what I mean? We're all just in this together, you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Know, I know a little kid who came home from school and reported that some other little kid had a birthday, okay. But she felt that the people singing to her weren't into it.

[Kenny Olson]

Boy, I wonder who she got that from. Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

And she felt bad. And I just said, well, I. This just. Bless her heart. Bless her heart. She's aware of that feeling, you know, that's, I guess, apropos.

[Kenny Olson]

Now, how many times has the mayor brought that up after kind of a more relaxed hail you response, huh?

[Joe Soucheray]

Brought up what? Oh, yeah, you guys were feeling it. I didn't feel it. I want more yelling.

[John Randall]

Hail you. Whatever.

[Joe Soucheray]

Goodbye. I'm taking a break.

[John Randall]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Positive Thursday here already. And it's brought to us again by Schoon over Body Works and Auto care. They're InshoreView 1060 County Road E. Mike Schoonover is here to put you at ease. I'm going to be honest with you, G allers. Mike and I have talked earlier today and Mike, you're a little frustrated with what you're seeing insurance companies telling their. Telling their insured where they can get their cars repaired.

[Mike Schoonover]

I am, Kenny. Hey, happy positive Thursday. So we're gonna keep it positive.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay. Good luck.

[Mike Schoonover]

No, Kenny, I think there's. We're seeing insurance companies just really, really making it hard for, for consumers, for the. For the motoring public who needs, you know, body work done that when they file a claim, they're immediately scaring them and saying that they have to take it to one of their preferred shops, one of their network shops or one of their shops that are on their direct repair program, or DRP for short. And that's not true, and it's not right because a lot of these shops are under contract with these insurance companies. And these insurance companies dictate how the shop is going to do the work, how they're going to repair a car or a truck or what we're going to replace and what we're going to use for parts. If we're going to use original equipment parts or used parts or aftermarket Parts. That can't be the case because it's your.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's our.

[Mike Schoonover]

It's our car, it's our vehicle. So we should have the choice of where we bring it, who fixes it. And the other thing that they're putting out there is that, you know, they won't warranty it. Well, insurance companies don't warranty work. The shop does. So I just want to urge GL ers that when you do file a claim, not to take the insurance company's advice and find your own shop.

[Kenny Olson]

Mike, let me ask you something. When you say file a claim, you know me well enough that if I got in a crash, I wouldn't even call my insurance company. I just drop it off at your place and let you worry about it. Does that work, or do I have to actually make the initial contact with the insurance?

[Mike Schoonover]

Well, you do need to open the claim. Yeah. You need to file a claim, and then we take it from there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Mike Schoonover]

But during that phone call, what they're going to say? So let's just say, Kenny, you get in a wreck today and you bring your truck here.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Mike Schoonover]

Your insurance company is going to say, well, oh, boy, they're not on our program. And so you might be paying out of pocket for anything over and above what we would pay for, or we're not going to warranty the work. That's.

[Kenny Olson]

That's.

[Mike Schoonover]

That's. That's totally bogus, and that's not right.

[Kenny Olson]

So my. My. What I would do is, before I even filed the claim, I would drop that truck off at your place, and then I would file the claim, and then I'd tell them, well, it's already at Schoonover Body Works and Auto Care and Shoreview, and they're going to deal with everything. And good luck. See ya.

[Mike Schoonover]

Yep. And then we'll take it from there, and we'll keep you in the loop of what's going on. And. And we will negotiate to f. Your truck like it should be repaired properly. Negotiate with the insurance company in good faith.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm laughing because they. Insurance companies actually say, we won't warranty the work.

[Joe Soucheray]

Absolutely.

[Kenny Olson]

What a crock.

[Mike Schoonover]

Yeah. It really is. It really is, Kenny. So. So, yeah, just be, you know, buyer beware. When you are. When you're filing a claim and you can. It's your car, it's your vehicle, it's your truck, it's your SUV you get to make the decision of who fixes it.

[Kenny Olson]

Y. Yeah. And you guys always stand behind your work? Always.

[Josh Arnold]

Absolutely.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Absolute course that's just one of the many things you learn when you've been in business since 1938. Schoon over Body Works and Autocare, the official shop of Garagelogic and G. Ellers. You just heard why they're. That's why. They're one of the best shops in The Metro. Schoonover. Bodyworks.com is the website. Thank you very much, Mike. Have a great positive Thursday.

[Mike Schoonover]

Thanks, Kenny. You too. And thanks a lot, Jillers.

[John Randall]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got it. You got it. It's the end of the world as we know it. And he feels fine. Joe Sushere, I'm gonna give you an example of something before we get to Johnny. All right? I'm gonna read you something. Is this a tribe story?

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

FBI agents were seen yesterday carrying out a search at an election hub in Fulton County, Georgia, a location that became ground zero for concerns and complaints about voter fraud in 2020. Agents were seen entering the Fulton County Election Hub and Operations Center, a new facility that state Officials opened in 2023 that was designed to streamline their election processes. It was not immediately clear what the FBI agents were investigating, but the probe is related to the 2020 election. The bureau said in a statement that FBI Atlanta was executing a court authorized law enforcement action at 5600 Camp Belton Fairburn Road. Our investigation in this matter is ongoing, so there are no details that we can provide at the moment, the bureau said. The Department of Justice did not provide comment. President Trump lost the election in 2020 in Georgia by a water thin. I'm sorry, wafer thin margin and claimed various instances of fraud had tainted the results. Those claims did not survive court scrutiny. Fulton, which includes Atlanta and is the state's most populous county, drew significant attention at the time. A machine count and two recounts confirmed that former President Biden had won the state, leading Trump to feud with Georgia's leaders for years. The DOJ sued Fulton county last month seeking access to ballots related to the 2020 election. The county is fighting the lawsuit, saying the DOJ has not made a valid argument for accessing them. Is that a tribal story or a real story or what Is that, that tribal story? It's.

[Kenny Olson]

It's a real story that will get spun by both sides as being tribal. Like you said earlier, it's six years ago.

[Joe Soucheray]

We're going on six years.

[John Randall]

You lost.

[Joe Soucheray]

You lost Georgia. Sorry.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, so you're making it a tribal story?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I think that's the way it's going to be looked at.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

You got to get over it.

[John Randall]

Well, what the hell, get over it.

[Joe Soucheray]

What are you going to do? What, now you got Pam Bondi as one of her. I don't think it's been taken off the table. She said, well, you know, we could talk about getting ice out of here.

[John Randall]

We.

[Joe Soucheray]

We got a few things we'd like you to do, one of which is to turn over the voter rolls.

[Kenny Olson]

You don't think they should.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is the. We're not the Mafia, for God's sakes.

[Kenny Olson]

But.

[Joe Soucheray]

Nice little state you got here. Too bad if anything should happen to it.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, it's too late to. It wouldn't change anything, right? If malfeasance.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a great question. I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm assuming it wouldn't. But wouldn't you want to know anyway if there was malfeasance?

[Chris Reivers]

And not to mention, wouldn't it also help, once again if there was cooperation?

[Kenny Olson]

I would like to know, going back to, I don't know, fdr, I want to know how much voter malfeasance we've had in this country.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, then.

[Kenny Olson]

Not that it will change any. Well, of course it'll change in the future.

[Joe Soucheray]

Then a question is begged. Okay. Who do you trust?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, you know who I trust.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know who you trust.

[John Randall]

Nobody.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, right. Well, that's pretty much all of us.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who in the hell do you trust? I don't trust anything.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey. Huh?

[John Randall]

How many investigations would convince people on either side?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right. We had a lot of investigations about this. I accepted them. End of story. But the tribes will not say end of story.

[Chris Reivers]

But when the state. Remember a couple of weeks ago when we started to investigate the SNAP benefits fraud and the state refused to turn over the amount of people and who exactly was receiving the benefits? Well, then all you're doing is you're leading everyone to have suspicion about what's going on here at the state level.

[John Randall]

But back to the original story. What suspicion should there be about elections except people saying it online? There should be none. There's been 16 investigations.

[Chris Reivers]

But, John, if there isn't cooperation from the state or local election officials, doesn't that just lead to suspicion again?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, where do you want them to stop asking for information?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, until we.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, no, where do you want them to stop?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't want them to stop until we find out.

[Kenny Olson]

Let Chris answer. Let Chris answer.

[Chris Reivers]

I want them to stop when we finally realize, okay, everything is on the up and up.

[John Randall]

We already done that.

[Chris Reivers]

No, I Don't think we have, John.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, so that. Why. For that reason, it's just gonna go on and on and on again.

[John Randall]

Exactly.

[Joe Soucheray]

Fraud in this state is not been resolved. That has not been resolved.

[Kenny Olson]

Do you predict, do any one of you predict it will come back from the back burner, or is it gone?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, Trump is, what, either threatened to or has installed a new attorney to take over the fraud cases in Minnesota.

[John Randall]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

And you think that'll end with the.

[Chris Reivers]

Governor'S race coming up? I think that will be a main topic.

[Joe Soucheray]

Walls today said he will never again run for any public office.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, that's a shame.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't. I don't know if it sounds like he was sincere. I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

What other office would he have run for?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know. I think his betters at the national level would say, look, you've had your shot. You're. You're not.

[Kenny Olson]

What if he's. I wonder if he's plucked by somebody out in D.C. that he will say, well, I wasn't elected, but I'll go.

[Joe Soucheray]

To work for you. I don't know.

[Chris Reivers]

When Amy gets elected governor, she can appoint him to her senator.

[Kenny Olson]

Wall Street.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think Amy's smart enough that she would not do that.

[Kenny Olson]

Probably bet you a dollar.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll bet you $100. You got an extra hand? No. Okay, but I'll bet you 100.

[Chris Reivers]

I barely got an extra dollar right now.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, let's play I love this game. Tribal or not tribal.

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

And you wanted me to read this twee early January, yesterday or the day before.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's give this a tribal spin.

[Kenny Olson]

I found it here.

[Joe Soucheray]

News through the eyes of the tribe.

[Kenny Olson]

This is from January 9th, St. Paul Police Department. And there's a one minute video accompanying this. St. Paul Police. And it's my traffic account. Twitter account, MSP_Traffic. St. Paul Police just grabbed a fellow that was either barefoot or in socks who was walking eastbound on the westbound 94 exit ramp to 12th in downtown St. Paul. They walked him right over to the hospital and might have just saved him from frostbite. Is that a tribal story or not?

[Joe Soucheray]

It could certainly be spun into one.

[Kenny Olson]

Each way.

[Joe Soucheray]

Each way.

[Kenny Olson]

Each way. I have learned with this traffic account. By the way, I shut off comments so people can't even comment on my traffic reports anymore because each side. And I think I started doing this when I said something along the lines of a homeless guy from a nearby camp was walking in the. On the freeway, something innocuous like that. And I had Both sides breathing down my neck because, number one, he's not homeless. He's unhoused. That came from the left and from the right, it was Democratic policies led to this. So my dumb little tweet caused a huge fight on Twitter when it wasn't even my intention. So I don't use the words homeless anymore. I call them campers.

[Joe Soucheray]

And. And, and overlooked in that scenario is standards. You. You know, it's 20 below you.

[Kenny Olson]

We.

[Joe Soucheray]

There was a time when people wouldn't have been walking around in their bare feet.

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know. Yeah. Yeah. But you. Here's Johnny Height.

[John Randall]

Thanks, Joe. This news brought to you by North American Bacon.

[Kenny Olson]

Have fun, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

The whole rest of the show. Okay.

[John Randall]

That's every story I'm going to read. Why don't we go tribal?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, we should.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, let's try it. Let's try it.

[John Randall]

Okay. North American Banking Company is bringing you this newscast. We talked about this already. U.S. senator Amy Klobuchar, officially in the race for Minnesota governor. The state senior senator made the formal announcement in a video this morning. She said, these times call for leaders who can stand up and not be rubber stamps of this administration, but are willing to find common ground and fix things in our state. Klobuchar has been considering a run for governor since Tim Walls dropped his bid this month. She filed the former campaign committee for governor last Thursday while she considered a run. She had planned to announce Monday that she was going to run, but the shooting death of Alex Preddy by two federal agents delayed those plans. In an interview with Tom Hauser downstairs, she said she was leaning toward a run for governor, but first wanted to focus on the ice issues that were dominating the state. Klobuchar was first elected to the U.S. senate in 2006, has been reelected by double digit margins in 2012, 2018 and 2024. Prior to her time on Capitol Hill, she served as Hennepin county attorney from 1999 to 2006, a role she cited as evidence she can best root out fraud and waste in the state.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's an easy one. I'd be rooting for her to root out the fraud, but I'll have more to say on that tomorrow.

[John Randall]

The man now charged with murder.

[Chris Reivers]

Sorry, Johnny, I had something queued up about Amy. Someone found a campaign video of hers from 2006, and how different of a tune she's singing today. This is from 2006, courtesy of KSDP Television.

[I]

Ms. Klobuchar.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thursday, President Bush signed a law approving a 700 mile fence on the U.S. mexican border is a female good immigration policy or just good politics?

[I]

I do believe that we need more resources at the border and that that includes offense. What we have now, we have people waiting to come in legally, thousands of people waiting to come in legally to this country and we have people coming in illegally. That's not right. We need to get order at the border, but we also have to stop giving amnesty to companies that are hiring illegal immigrants, immigrants under this administration. The number of prosecutions of companies has gone way down. That has to change.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's good, Chris.

[Kenny Olson]

Has she listened to that recently?

That was good, Chris.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it doesn't sound to me like she's opposed to enforcement.

[Kenny Olson]

Right, right.

[Chris Reivers]

But it also, you talk about the tribe thing. She wouldn't say that to you.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's pre tribe. That's pre tribe. I say 2006 is even pre tribe.

[Chris Reivers]

When did the tribe start with Trump?

[Kenny Olson]

A good reporter would quote that and ask her and it'd be fun and interesting to find out where she stands. I can't predict what she would say. I don't know.

[John Randall]

The man now charged with managing the ongoing federal immigration enforcement and fraud investigation operations here in Minnesota pledged this morning massive changes with cooperation. Tom Holman. The White House's borders are arrived in Minnesota earlier this week. He has since talked with Governor Walls and the mayors of both cities. This morning it was the first time he spoke publicly, though since arriving here, state and local leaders have repeatedly called for a reduction in the U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement surge.

[Chris Reivers]

And they're also sorry, John, I know you're reading a new story, but that's still got to get the.

[John Randall]

I was going to change it at this point. Also suing the Department of Homeland Security to halt its ops here in Minnesota. Holman did acknowledge he's had what he called meaningful dialogue with several state and local leaders. Said he plans to continue meeting with more. He said while they didn't agree on everything he said, bottom line is you can't fix problems if you don't have discussions. I came here to seek solutions multiple times. Homan said he expects a decrease in federal officers in the state based upon common sense cooperation and the discussion he's having with local and state officials. Specific details on any changes weren't disclosed, although Holman did note that the Minnesota Department of Corrections has been honoring ICE detainers despite what Homeland Security has said and said. Attorney General Keith Ellison clarified that county jails can notify ICE release of inmate release dates to facilitate transfers. However, state leaders have been Saying that for weeks. Regardless, based on the cooperation, Hoban said it will allow ICE to conduct more targeted strategic enforcement ops that require fewer officers.

[Chris Reivers]

Did you watch the press conference, Joe?

[Joe Soucheray]

I did not. I was working busily on this show.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, and you were talking to your water.

[Joe Soucheray]

Should have put. Probably should have watched that.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, I, I. Cause Kenny alerted me to it, so. Thank you, Ken. But the thing, it struck me as they took your advice, they kind of regrouped, they brought the adult in the room because obviously Kristi Noem botched everything here. But it did feel like, okay, they are doing what you would advise them. Maybe a week or so ago.

[Joe Soucheray]

I hope things calm down.

[Kenny Olson]

We had a great Krabby yesterday. We had former U.S. attorney for Minnesota Rachel Paulasson, very calm, level headed, a deep thinker. And we basically asked her everything we could about every single lawsuit that's playing out right now surrounding everything from the protesters to the immigrant problem to fraud. And it was a great. Our crabby coffee shop. You can find it on the GL Network.

[Joe Soucheray]

Very good.

[Chris Reivers]

Yep, it was very good.

[Kenny Olson]

Johnny, before you continue, I mentioned the other day that fellow Cretan grad Dan.

[Joe Soucheray]

Walsh, he had two votes, didn't he?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, he did pretty bad. He was an 89 grad. He was not an 88. But he did email me and he said Pat Whitty texted me and said you mentioned me in the class. I included a file that I created during the last process from the tolerant and patient left. I got murdered but was expected. Yet we did come away with some good data. So you can tell Joe about as he complains about the quality of the candidates offered up, that our framework is finally getting created without any help from the Republican Party. You're on your own in Senate District 64. Thanks, Dan. He sent me the link and it is.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, send it to me.

[Kenny Olson]

I will. It's vile. Fu Fu.

[Joe Soucheray]

What do you mean you're making no sense?

[Kenny Olson]

I don't know what you're constituents in 64B saying as he ran for office, he saved all of their wow comments unless you're talking about ice.

[Joe Soucheray]

So you're seeing some tribalism there.

[Kenny Olson]

People are being murdered by ICE and you're worried about fraud?

[Joe Soucheray]

Burn in hell.

[Kenny Olson]

I will send it to you.

You should really seek out that presser this morning with Holman. He is your type of guy. You will really like listening to him talk.

[Joe Soucheray]

I do. And I know he worked for Obama. There is that slight problem where he accepted a $50,000 bribe that that Trump.

[Kenny Olson]

Excused 50 grand is really not that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Much in this day and age.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, let's just sweep pocket.

[Joe Soucheray]

How many under the rug?

[Chris Reivers]

How many kids could he feed with 50 grand?

[Joe Soucheray]

Not many in this state.

[Kenny Olson]

Isn't that how much I owe you?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. Follow up with interest. Yes.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[John Randall]

U.S. district Court Judge Patrick Schultz apparently is not done yet. He wrote in an order Wednesday, ICE has likely violated more court orders in January 2026 than some federal agencies have violated in their entire existence. You remember we had this story earlier this week. Schultz ordered ICE's acting director to personally appear in Minnesota court to answer to his agency's repeated issues with compliance. However, when ICE released the individual the agency was wrongfully detaining, Schultz canceled that hearing. However, he wrote, this does not end the court's concerns. However, the chief judge noted that a hurriedly compiled list shows at least 96 instances of ICE violating court orders and 74 cases just in January. And he says there are surely others. Homeland Security, meanwhile, is trying to deflect from Schiltz, calling him just another activist judge.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tribalism.

[John Randall]

Well, his history would appear to go against that narrative. He started his career working as a clerk. Two separate occasions for man many consider the standard bearer of conservative justices, Judges, excuse me, and Antonin Scalia. Schultz considered part of the conservative legal tradition associated with Scalia. He was also a mentor and teacher of current Supreme Court Justice Amy Conan.

[Joe Soucheray]

See, it used to be there was no conservative or liberal interpretation of the law. It was the law.

[John Randall]

It was the law.

[Joe Soucheray]

It was the law, period. That was the law.

[John Randall]

The brother of the man filmed charging Representative Ilhan Omar the sprayer with a syringe. Says his brother's a piece of bleep who had twisted hatred for the Somali community for decades. Anthony Kazmier checks estranged brother said. I'm not surprised this happened. His brother lives in North Carolina. He said, unfortunately, he and my mother are both right wing extremists. The brother says he has not had any contact with either one for several years. We talked about it yesterday. Kazmir Chek ran at Omar as she was at a town hall podium, criticizing Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and calling for the abolishment of ice. He was charged this morning. And criminal complaint charges Anthony James Kazmier. Check with one count of forcibly assaulting a federal employee in the performance of their official duties.

[Chris Reivers]

Did anyone see have we confirmed that? The photo that she posed with him, is that real, by the way?

[John Randall]

No, I have not seen that.

[Chris Reivers]

It was.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's not.

[Chris Reivers]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, the one where he's holding up money.

[Chris Reivers]

No, no, no. She's just posing with him before the town hall.

[Kenny Olson]

They're holding up money is probably not.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, you know, because I found it weird that A, she didn't. She didn't go to the hospital after the chemical was sprayed on her.

[Kenny Olson]

And.

[Chris Reivers]

B, she was hugging people even after the town hall event was done.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, again, your problem is where are you going to find a guy that wants to go to jail?

[Chris Reivers]

What was the charge, Johnny? One count.

[John Randall]

Of what?

[Joe Soucheray]

Assault against a federal employee.

[John Randall]

Okay, that's a felony. Yep. Okay, it's a felony.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't care how screwed up the guy is. He probably wasn't screwed up enough to say, yeah, I'm going to do this. Pay me and I'll go to jail for five years. I don't think so.

[Chris Reivers]

Everything's on the up and up.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I believe it.

[John Randall]

Totally.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. She's so above staging something like that, too. I really do believe that.

[Kenny Olson]

Apple cider vinegar now on a Sunday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Be what it is? No. Well, then you're playing right into the tribal thought.

[Kenny Olson]

Can I give a zinger to Chris that I usually save for Matthew?

[Joe Soucheray]

I have a singer, you know, it's better to have thought stupid than to open your mouth and prove it.

[Josh Arnold]

Okay, Chris.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I'm gonna cross out Matthew's name here and put in Chris.

All right.

I admire how you never let evidence interfere with your opinions.

[Joe Soucheray]

You do have a good. You do have a good list going. I think you should drop those ever. It's called.

[Kenny Olson]

It's called, like Atlas. The. The weight has been lifted off of me.

I have found it's more fun giving them to Matthew because he has a sense of humor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, wow.

[Kenny Olson]

And probably doesn't understand half of them, right, Chris?

[Joe Soucheray]

That was a little blow a lot.

[John Randall]

Of shots at Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

It really was.

[John Randall]

So let's send it over to Mr. Tinfoil Hat, see what he's got to tell us.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm gonna tell you about our buddy Linda Keller and Keller Tax Service, because guess what, you dumb sobs, it's tax season.

[Kenny Olson]

I got my packet from Linda this last week.

[Chris Reivers]

I actually got mine mail as well. So here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen.

[Joe Soucheray]

Those packets. I never do a damn thing with them.

[Kenny Olson]

A brown paper bag.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got a lunch bag full of stuff. It's his problem.

[Kenny Olson]

I love to see him coming around the corner.

[Joe Soucheray]

Linda.

[Chris Reivers]

I gotta stop and talk to the water people first, though.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

And then not pay at the pump.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right? That's communism since I talked to you.

[Kenny Olson]

And I used it in my column and I did it on the radio. Can I write off my water bill?

[Chris Reivers]

John, what were you saying? 320-352-0013 or kellertaxservice.com she's been handling my taxes for years. She's been handling Kenny for a couple of years and Johnny as well. She's the absolute best. And you know what? She doesn't want you to pay any more money than you have to. She hates the government more than all of us do. So go with the absolute best. And you know what? It doesn't matter whether you have a family, you're doing personal taxes, whether you own a business. She handles all types of for all types of businesses. And she's a true and loyal gler. That's how this relationship started years ago. So go online and also go to that website, kellertaxservice.com she updates all sorts of different tax law changes and has the most up to date information on her website. But get on the schedule now. Do not wait until the very last minute. Kellertaxservice.com or 320-352-0013 book that appointment and please let Linda know that you heard about her here on the Garage Logic podcast. Johnny Height oh, back to news as.

[John Randall]

I sit here stretching.

[Chris Reivers]

That's ok. Yeah.

[John Randall]

The Federal Reserve yesterday held interest rates steady at 3 and a half to 3.75% for the first time since July. US stock markets closed near the flat line. On that news, the dollar rebounded slightly after hitting a nearly four year low yesterday or no Tuesday. Excuse me, amid concerns about the reserve's independence and potential US Military action in Greenland, Latin America and and the Middle east. Mississippi dispatching 500 National Guard troops to clear roads blocked by fallen trees. And Tennessee had nearly 1,000 linemen scrambling to restore power to thousands of Nashville homes as the southern states race to recover from a crippling winter storm before another blast of dangerous cold hits on Friday, National Weather Service said Arctic air moving into the Southeast will cause already frigid temps to plunge into the teens Friday night. In city cities like Nashville, that's bad because right now more than 90,000 homes and businesses are in their fifth day with no electricity. In Nashville, at least 80 people have died in areas afflicted with bitter cold from Texas to New Jersey.

[Kenny Olson]

I've seen some footage where they're showing the ice that's at least a half inch thick. Yeah. On top of vehicles and cars and whatnot.

[Joe Soucheray]

Don't throw a lot of water on the car yeah, don't do that.

[John Randall]

A lot of polls rolling on vehicles, too, because of the ice.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

US President Trump warning Iran today or yesterday. Excuse me. That an armada was heading toward it and it should make a deal with the US on its contested nuclear program or face Armada.

[Kenny Olson]

What is this, 1836?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's. That's a frequently used word.

[Kenny Olson]

I haven't heard armada since I was studying history, Matt.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's. It's a good bunch of boats, Matt.

[Kenny Olson]

A fleet.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, it's okay. It's okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Armada.

[Joe Soucheray]

Spanish Armada's fine.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Was that an extended version of bleep?

[John Randall]

That word?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

The Spanish Armada is coming.

[Joe Soucheray]

Relax. It's not Spanish. Okay.

[John Randall]

On Trump. On Trump.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm outraged.

[John Randall]

Truth Social. He posted a massive armada is heading to Iran. It's moving quickly with great power. Power, enthusiasm, and purpose.

[Kenny Olson]

That's awesome. That is awesome.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's an enthusiastic. Well, you just relax. Got it.

[John Randall]

It's a larger fleet. He continued riding, headed by the great aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln. And then what? Wait a minute. Now it's a larger. Yeah, there we go. It's a larger fleet headed by the great aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln than that that was sent to Venezuela. And like with Venezuela, it's ready, willing, and able to rapidly fulfill its mission with speed and violence if necessary. Trump said he hoped IR come to the table to negotiate what he called a fair and equitable deal regarding its nuclear weapons program. Time is running out. He added, it is truly of the essence.

[Joe Soucheray]

Isn't the Iran Navy just a bunch of guy with some Belgian whalers?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I hope inflatables.

[Kenny Olson]

You can't sink them, John. I love to, in my head, assign music. Soundtrack. What would be the soundtrack for an enthusiastic Armada would. What was that song in Apocalypse Now?

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm gonna go with Don't. Back to Rockville.

[Kenny Olson]

No. It's got to be something by Metallica or something kickass.

[John Randall]

Whatever. Of the Valkyries, right? Isn't that the one?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Flight of the Valkyries.

[John Randall]

Flight of the Valkyries.

[Kenny Olson]

I hope the Armada has a. A large collection of cannonballs.

Matthew, you pick the funniest things.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're really worried about this, aren't you?

[Kenny Olson]

What the hell says Armada?

[Joe Soucheray]

It's a word. Navy. I don't know.

[John Randall]

I saw a great quote the other day, Joe, because you brought up REM And I know they're one of your favorite bands. Yeah. A great quote from Pete Townsend. Yeah. Of the who.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Who hates all the hair bands and the whatevers. Yeah. That kind of is. He said, I would trade 100. No, make that 150. Deaf leopards for just one more REM Really? Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not much of a Def Leppard fan.

[John Randall]

No.

[Chris Reivers]

Pour Some Sugar on Me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Come on.

[Kenny Olson]

Stripper song.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's an Armada song.

[Kenny Olson]

Why did he half double down from 100 to 150?

[Joe Soucheray]

I just wanted 50 more.

[John Randall]

Oh, yeah. Well, you know, it's worth 50 more.

[Kenny Olson]

Got it.

No, 150.

[Chris Reivers]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

170. 200.

[Chris Reivers]

John, how many Bruce Springsteens would he trade in for an reo?

[John Randall]

I'm gonna guess he's a big fan of Bruce Springsteen. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

The intense rumor is that Bruce will be at First Avenue tomorrow afternoon.

[Chris Reivers]

You going?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't have any strings to pull with First Avenue. I just don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

I used to, but those days have been over.

[Joe Soucheray]

I tried 25 years.

[John Randall]

That is an appearance with. Well, if it shows up, Morello from Rage against the Machine, who will be performing at noon, which is a very odd time to perform at First Avenue.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, most of the people that would.

[Joe Soucheray]

Attend, but here's a question. Here's a question.

[John Randall]

A question.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is an. A Resistance concert. Anti Ice. Right.

[John Randall]

All the money goes to the families of Renee. Good. Alex. Pretty.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, okay. But. What? They hold 300 people. What? What?

[Kenny Olson]

The main room, first down.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know. I don't. I haven't been in there a while.

[Kenny Olson]

I just. I wouldn't want to go for all the bitching you're going to get between the songs.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wonder if it can be verified that Anthony Edwards gave $514,000 to ICE.

[Chris Reivers]

That did not happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

That did not happen. All right.

[Chris Reivers]

All right.

[Kenny Olson]

I got media tickets for tomorrow. Springsteen's gonna be up there about 1:30.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why don't you and your Armada go over there?

[Kenny Olson]

America's guest is going.

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

So, John, that would suggest that a lot of the protesters that would show up are gonna have to take the day off of work.

[John Randall]

Well, actually, tomorrow. Tomorrow, Chris, they're having another. If you followed the news.

[Chris Reivers]

I do, John. I just trying to make it quick.

[Joe Soucheray]

Have you ever held a newspaper?

[Kenny Olson]

We don't know that.

[Chris Reivers]

That one that I just put in.

[John Randall]

The garbage can right there. He has read so many headlines, Joe, you wouldn't believe it.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, yeah. I'm the headline master. I'm the armada of headline readers.

[Kenny Olson]

His newspaper just lines the kitty litter box.

[John Randall]

Spotify paid the music industry more than $11 billion in royalties last year, according to the company.

[Joe Soucheray]

Billion.

[John Randall]

Billion with a B. Wow. The payout is reportedly the largest Ever to musicians. But big deal, because they pay 0.004 cents per stream.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, then can you imagine how many streams result in $11 billion?

[John Randall]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jeez.

[John Randall]

And to give you some idea what that is, I had to pull out my calculator. So if I have a record and it gets streamed a million times on Spotify, they're going to pay me four grand.

[Kenny Olson]

So 2026 musicians are still getting screwed. That's amazing to me.

[John Randall]

Well, yeah. I mean, wow.

[Kenny Olson]

That is so disappointing.

[John Randall]

You're not going on the road. You aren't making any money.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

God, that's disappointing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

And that money they make probably has to be paid back to the record company for loaning it to them to make the record.

[John Randall]

Well, that's why there's so many independent bands now who just goes and tour instantly. It's all the money's there. It's all merchandise, money's all record companies.

[Kenny Olson]

It's always been the biggest scam going, and it continues to be in 2026.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow. Who managed the Eagles?

[John Randall]

What's his name? Irving Azoff.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. Then he got taken over. By who? The rich guy. I'm thinking of the. The billionaire. He dated Cher for a while.

[John Randall]

Irving Azoff, Still.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, no. The other guy. Come on.

[John Randall]

But Geffen hasn't been associated with him in years.

[Joe Soucheray]

Geffen said you'll be rich. He's telling the he Eagles. But I'll be richer.

[John Randall]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, okay. The company also claimed there are more artists making over $100,000 annually on the platform than artists who were stocked on record shelves during the CD era. I find that impossible to believe. I'm sorry, artists?

[Kenny Olson]

Are they talking the songwriting credit or are they talking five guys in the band? What's 100 grand divided by five? That's enough. Nothing. They're not making any money.

[John Randall]

It's a good point. I didn't even think of that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Taylor Swift, probably making a few bucks.

[Kenny Olson]

Made 20,000 last year.

[John Randall]

Taylor Swift kind of skews those numbers, Joe, don't you think?

[Chris Reivers]

David Geffen and Elliot Roberts manage the group in their early days. Then Irving Azoff has been managing the band since 1974.

[Joe Soucheray]

And Elliot Roberts manages Neil Young.

[John Randall]

Yeah, And Irving Azoff manages Steely Dan. There you go. See, it's all one big.

[Chris Reivers]

And Derek Shelton manages the twins.

[Joe Soucheray]

Danville.

[Kenny Olson]

Danville, Illinois from is where your Irving AOF is a. A non believer.

[John Randall]

Where did that come.

[Chris Reivers]

Where's your quote again?

[Kenny Olson]

His Wikipedia page.

[John Randall]

I'm just looking them up.

[Kenny Olson]

So awesome.

Matthew been married to the Same gal since 78 though. That's to his credit.

Y.

[Chris Reivers]

What did they have at their wedding, do you think?

[Kenny Olson]

Matzo balls.

Matthew.

Cecil.

I love how you Cecil do it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Didn't they?

[Kenny Olson]

I bet they did. Aaron probably got down there. Aaron was down there with his Rubens.

[Chris Reivers]

Works in a plug.

[Joe Soucheray]

Matthew.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

I love how you speak outside of the box. It's clear that no one's ever invited you in the box.

Yeah, there was a mime once. Yeah, try to get in the box.

[Chris Reivers]

But it was.

[Kenny Olson]

I was blocked out because of the glass.

[John Randall]

Speaking of mimes, have you guys watched the Mel Brooks two parter on hbo?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I have not.

[Kenny Olson]

Not yet.

[Chris Reivers]

I saw an ad for it though. It looks great.

[John Randall]

It. It's fun. If you like Mel Brooks, you'll love it.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[John Randall]

I just thought of that because of Silent Movie when Marcel Marceau had the only line in the movie since he's a mime.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a joke.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's kind of a joke there.

[John Randall]

Kind of a joke.

[Kenny Olson]

Mel Brooks with the wife probably not gonna be be a hit.

What?

Watching that with the wife's probably not going to be a big.

[John Randall]

Depends on your wife.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do they cover in the documentary? Do they cover Blazing Saddles?

[John Randall]

Oh, they cover extensive. They cover all of his movies extensively. Starting with the Producers.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

What about Spaceballs? The Spaceballs have a prominent role.

[John Randall]

Yeah, Spaceball, Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles. And the Producers have the most airtime. It's a two parter, almost four hours.

[Kenny Olson]

Comb the Dead Wizard.

[John Randall]

A lot of interviews.

[Chris Reivers]

Big back. Yes.

[John Randall]

That. That clip rook is in there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, God, I love that. Does he admit that Blazing Saddles could not be made today?

[John Randall]

He does not say that, no. Although other people come on and say it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tribalism would prevent it today.

[John Randall]

I. I had forgotten. Dave Chappelle was in Men with Tights. Robin Hood. Men with Tights. That was like his. His first.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh. For PC performance. Really?

[John Randall]

Yeah. There's a lot of interviews. Dave Chappelle, everything she bishop.

[Kenny Olson]

Was he watching? Talking with confidence.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know who's funny? Chappelle. That's funny.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you for that.

[John Randall]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Nice knockers.

[John Randall]

What? Knockers. What?

[Chris Reivers]

That's right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, doctor.

[John Randall]

Okay, I'm done.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, thank you, John.

[John Randall]

You're welcome.

[Kenny Olson]

We taking a break?

[Joe Soucheray]

Sure.

[Mike Schoonover]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Not again, dad.

[Joe Soucheray]

The earth is not your mother. The Joe Sugiray show saying the 2026 North American Banking Company Minnesota Golf show is coming up Friday, February 13th. GL will be there through Sunday, February 15th. I mean, we'll be there only on the 13th. It's at the Minneapolis Convention Center. You can try to sink a putt for 100 grand. Try out the latest equipment, get great deals on golf apparel. And then, yeah, there's a lounge there right next to us, I think.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes, sir, the 19th hole.

[Joe Soucheray]

And it's pebble beach weekend, so that'll be on tv. But here's the best part. Each ticket purchase comes with access to 15 greens fees. Free greens fee passes.

[Kenny Olson]

Are they free?

[Joe Soucheray]

15 free greens fee passes. John Randall will be wandering around, former Viking and NFL hall of Famer. To purchase tickets, visit mngolf.com and I'm sorry, that was wrong. Visit mngolfshow.com Sounds like me and the studio. One word. Mngolfshow.com your attention, please.

[Kenny Olson]

Your attention, please. Mngolfshow.com.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you know, there's a whole new way to look at the Ilhan Omar incident. Oh, the Latricia. Vito was there and I. I kind of respect what Latricia says. And she. She said it happened just the way it did. And she was there with Bobby Joe Champion, Esther Abagi, council member Pearl Warren, and Hanne, County Commissioner. Why am I talking like that?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm not sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

And council somebody named Irene Fernando. And then during the event. Well, what does she say? She says, I strongly condemn this act in any attempt to threaten or silence elected officials, staff or residents. Despite this incident, I remain committed to showing up, serving Ward 4 and standing firmly for safety, accountability and respect in our public spaces. I am grateful for many messages of concern and support and will share additional information as it becomes available. Latricia Vitae, Ward 4. So she was there. And if that's the way she says it went down, that's the way it went down.

[Kenny Olson]

Gotcha.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't need that. I don't need that. I need this. Only because they come to us all the way from Kaiwaka, New Zealand, the traveling linemans. It was on this day, January 29th, in 1900. On this day, a fire destroyed much of the business section of Morristown, Rice county. It burned 20 buildings, including a bank, post office and hotel. On this day, 1906, Catholic Bishop John Ireland dedicated the organ in the Church of the Immaculate Conception in Faribault.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes, I went to church.

[Joe Soucheray]

Does the church still exist?

[Chris Reivers]

Kind of. It combined with a couple of the.

[Joe Soucheray]

Other Catholic churches set Magnificent musical instruments still there, I wonder.

[Chris Reivers]

I believe it is part of the new church, but that's where I had my first communion and my. What do you call it?

[Joe Soucheray]

The other thing Baptism.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, you really need to get.

[John Randall]

Back to the church.

[Joe Soucheray]

Confirmation.

[Chris Reivers]

Confirmation. Thank you, Kenny.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's your confirmation name?

[John Randall]

Well, that's a good question.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, never mind.

[Kenny Olson]

Who was the bishop that confirmed you?

[Chris Reivers]

Father George Freeman.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, January 29th, in 2002, Me Mo was elected to the Minnesota Senate. She was the first Hmong American to serve in any state legislature. Also on this day in 2002, same thing. She was elected. Why is there a twice there two.

[Kenny Olson]

Days in a row? Good day for her.

[Chris Reivers]

It was a big deal.

[Joe Soucheray]

Two wins on this day in sports disappointment history.

[Chris Reivers]

Who'd we lose to? Joe on January 29?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on January 29, 1984, less deckel was officially announced as the head coach of the Vikings.

[Kenny Olson]

Hasn't he been stricken from the records, or shouldn't he be?

[Joe Soucheray]

So let me see if I get this straight, because yesterday we realized in 1984, on January 28th, Bud Grant retired finally again.

[Kenny Olson]

Right?

[Joe Soucheray]

So he was succeeded by Les Steckle.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes. But then Bud came back in 84. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Then didn't Les show up in army uniform? Oh, yeah. The whole tried to be a tough guy, and that didn't work. And blood came, and you still have.

[Kenny Olson]

To wear black shoes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, G. Yes.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes. Thank you. Please do us a favor and hit the subscribe button.

[Kenny Olson]

Give it to me like you're. Your attention.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

You know, Reaver's got the same voice you do.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey, no, he doesn't.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can do that.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm. I'm under. I have not been briefed on that specific. Yeah, you got to know it's a challenge. But you can also do the Gl.

[Joe Soucheray]

Or of the week.

[Kenny Olson]

We can do it tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Don't worry about it, bro.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right?

[Kenny Olson]

Don't worry. We'll forget about it tomorrow. Yep.

[Chris Reivers]

You can also find us on Facebook, Instagram, and X. Just search Garage Clue, though.

[Joe Soucheray]

What TK you stay tuned.

[Kenny Olson]

The only TK I know is Tom Kelly.

[Chris Reivers]

Your attention, please. Yeah, hello. What it else? What? What else? Huh? Minnesota GolfShow.com Garagelogic.com Yep, sign up for the Daily Logician. It's all there for. Hey, if you want to become Gler of the week, upgrade to an annual town council membership. [e-mail] it is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again, right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay. Do exactly what I did in pick up that phone and dial KN 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice and he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, right now it's a ugly, ugly.

[Josh Arnold]

We're not talking about the weather. The sun is shining today. Yes, it is cold. It is still January in Minnesota and next week or this weekend it's February. And February to me is getting close to the start start of spring and I'm always, always a little bit surprised. Hey, it's February. Temperatures should be warming up. Maybe we'll get a little more snow. We're only a few weeks out from my two sure Signs of Spring Torch Illustrated Swimsuit Issue the Refrain Pitchers and Catchers Report now when it comes to the Twins, there are a lot of people who say it's going to be ugly. We don't want to go see the team play. Why it looks like we're going to be paying up to go see what could be a triple A team play, major league base fall. Well, don't know. But it's spring training coming up and hope always springs eternal. And I say here's my but not so much in the market today. Overall, a lot of macro news before hitting the micro or company news. Macro news. The Fed yesterday did not, I had surmised, move on interest rates. And in the conference call all the chairman of the Fed, Jay Powell, seemed to indicate that the Fed was close to a neutral position on rate given market watchers or Fed watchers, a lot of pause as to when, if at all, the Fed would cut start or cut rates or even start cutting rates again. The Fed, of course, is still concerned about the unemployment picture. And when it comes to the unemployment picture picture, favorite Amazon sent layoff notices yesterday to 16,000 corporate workers and Home Depot said they're going to lay off 800 workers. And that doesn't count any other companies that haven't announced big or even small layoffs, some of which are around we'll say cutting layoff layers will say cutting we'll say corporate layers or management layers. Some are around the development and use or further use of artificial intelligence to help streamline and propel their businesses in the future. But that is a concern of the Fed is higher unemployment. But they did say the economy still seems to be fairly strong. Then the next macro event could take place tomorrow night or Saturday morning when there could be partial Fed shutdown. There are several bills that need to be passed part of the continuing resolution to keep the government operating. Members in the Senate one say they won't vote for the continuing resolution unless services or the portions of the Department of Homeland securities is pulled out and voted on separately. Particularly given some of the events that have been happening in Minneapolis recently that have created a strong backlash across the country. And then there is the concern that the US is going to attack Iran and that could create another set of issues issues in the Middle east many of which in my estimation could prove to be could prove to be positive but not so much in the near term. And those three things, potential government shutdown, not moving on interest rate and a potential firing up of tensions in the Middle east are the macro events that have an adverse effect today on the market. But bigger adverse effects effect have come from earnings from the likes of Microsoft. I thought had a pretty good good report but two, two parts of their report were taken negatively by analysts in the market and Microsoft shares are off 12% actually their low their biggest sell off 6 years concerns by analysts were the amount of spending that Microsoft is doing on artificial Intell intelligence and questioning whether they're going to get a return on investment on that. And then there is the look that cloud growth and particularly Azure cloud growth is slowing down. Azure only grew at 39% analysts were looking at 40%. Now I've seen that situation play out with I'll say the volatility around my favorite name which is Apple Apple and I'll get to that in a second. On the flip side of spending, Meta, owner of Facebook, Instagram Reels and WhatsApp did pretty well but they said they're going to increase their their spending I'm not going to say almost double but they're looking to spend another $135 billion on their on building out their platform and the market hails that as greatness and Metta took off and they were up 9%. Now Metta has been beaten up recently but surmising that their report was much better than had been anticipated and the fact that they are being aggressive in their AI plus getting a return on their investment was seen positively. IBM another tech name also showed growth primarily from we'll say their services business. Their AI business has been been growing as well and their software Through Red Hat is also making strides. So IBM is up today about 6% on their news and they, they have been flirting or their stock is now flirting close to a recent high. And then of course there's Caterpillar, another we'll say beat and raise quarter. People like, like the big industrial company and manufacturer, they moved up on their power units, their say their power units, their turbines and their work with data centers. Who would have thought that a tractor coming company was involved with AI and data centers. Yet you got to build them, you got to power them and you've got to provide continuing power not only for the data centers but for other projects as well. And then people want to know about Tesla. Well I've always looked at Tesla as a car company. I a very expensive car company at that, but a company that also makes their money not from not so much from selling cars but from selling carbon credits and their battery technology. Now Elon Musk said no, don't look at us a car company anymore. We are in robotics. We are shifting manufacturing of our Fremont California plant from manufacturing Tesla X and S models and we're going to move to humanoid robots. Coming out of that plant we are going to stress the development of let's say physical artificial intelligence. Physical meaning the robots and the robo and self driving vehicle, the robo taxis and the self driving taxis are also planning on spending some money to invest.

[Mike Schoonover]

In.

[Josh Arnold]

XAI as part of that. So Tesla now will definitely move to, to a, from a car company although people still look at it for selling cars. More of a technology company and the development of physical artificial intelligence as well. Nothing was said on Space X, only on X AI or maybe Tesla.

[Joe Soucheray]

Which.

[Josh Arnold]

Is down a little bit on its news is going to I'll say be really a part of technology and not just looked at as a car company but for the stuff that Musk is talking about. A lot of that is way out in the future. Now just a little fallout from Microsoft's report and particularly cloud growth slowing. Well that hit favorite Amazon today as concerns came with is AWS going to be growing better than 18 or 19% or is AWS going to be shrinking when this quarter. So as much as I believe that Amazon not only has had a good quarter but could be a beat and raise quarter, the worry about AWS by analysts is out there. And that also applies to Google which like Amazon will report their numbers next week. Google cloud is number three behind in in terms of their public cloud and behind Amazon the leader or AWS the leader followed by Microsoft, Microsoft with their cloud and Azure and then Google, other clouds, you know, kind of fall in behind, behind that. So anytime oh the other they'll say fallout from Microsoft is the adverse effect that Microsoft also is involved in software, maybe not so much software as a service, but software as a service company. Whether it's Salesforce which has been moving down. OR ServiceNow which reported last night and they had a good quarter but market said map not interested and they fell down. That could be pretty interesting speculation as ServiceNow is down 50% from where it was just a few short months ago. They announced the share buyback. They had pretty strong numbers and I don't think they're going, they're not going out of business and they're not going away. And then Oracle, Oracle is also down 50% from its high but concerns with Oracle and their ability to spend are pretty high. But the software, the service names have been hurt and that has, that has pushed money into other areas, areas of the market and other areas within the overall tech space, notably money moving from software into chips and memory. And when it comes to memory, Apple reports tonight I believe it will be a very strong quarter but analysts will focus in on Apple services business growth which some say is slowing. Apple's integration with artificial intelligence and their Siri product mixed with Gemini is going to be introduced in a couple weeks and another, another question is going to come up on margins and what Apple might have to pay in the future for memory. Stay tuned, we'll be back tomorrow.

[Chris Reivers]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him jeelers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 9 5, 925. 5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugar coated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Randall]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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