2/17 Mysterian Ideology hurts the people they pretend to care about the most

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast Summary
Episode: 2/17 Mysterian Ideology hurts the people they pretend to care about the most
Date: February 17, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”) with Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, John Haidt, and Matthew

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Overview

In this episode, the Garage Logic crew dives deep into the impact of “mysterian” (progressive/activist) ideology on public policy, government spending, and the everyday lives of regular Minnesotans and Americans. They examine how well-meaning but unrealistic activist policies, particularly around immigration, policing, and environmentalism, often end up harming the very people they purport to help. Through a mix of news stories, firsthand observations, and spirited banter, the hosts critique the disconnect between activist-driven city councils and the hard realities of economics and public safety.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Immigrant Truck Drivers & Decline of Standards

[03:38–11:01]

• Listener letter raises concerns about the prevalence of non-English-speaking and potentially illegal immigrant truck drivers in the US, especially from Russia and Georgia.
• Hosts recall personal experiences with foreign drivers (often poor service, communication issues, mishandling of vehicles).
• Joe and Chris reminisce about a “Made in the USA car delivery” business idea—valuing local competence and communication.
• Broader point: A lack of oversight or pressures to go with lowest-cost labor can undermine quality and undercut local businesses.

Key Quotes:

“Could this Ruski read road signs? What laws might he have broken... Should he even be in this country if he got citizenship—why ... without being able to speak our language?” — Chris Reavers (05:32)
“We need born-in-the-USA car delivery." — Joe Soucheray (08:51)

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2. Mysterian Ideology & Policy Failings

[13:13–26:13]

• Joe highlights news stories demonstrating the unintended negative consequences of progressive/activist policies:

  • Vermont’s $8 million waste on electric buses that don’t start in the cold.
  • NYC’s crime waves blamed on ‘mysterian’ mayors who distrust law enforcement.
  • Minneapolis City Council’s moves against immigration enforcement (ICE) and capitalist businesses.

• Minneapolis City Council members (Chavez, Chugtai, Wansley) push radical stances: oppose ICE, demand “recovery packages” for businesses hurt by their own closures, threaten hotel liquor licenses for hosting ICE agents.

• Hosts dissect the domino effect of such ideology—hurting businesses, employees, and working families, not just businesses themselves.

Key Quotes:

“Mysterians do not care about the very people who voted for them... everything you propose can only result in trouble and unaffordability for the people you think you’re representing. It doesn’t work. It can’t work.” — Chris Reavers (17:28)
“Their ideology comes in, and they just think the liquor will continue to... get distributed. They don’t factor in what that will cost.” — Chris Reavers (21:47)

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3. The Economic Chain Reaction of Activist Governance

[21:47–26:13]

• The group walks through how single-issue activist policies (targeting hotels for accommodating ICE, for example) have ripple effects across many sectors (liquor distribution, cleaning, food, hospitality, manufacturing).
• Deep dive on how demonizing “luxury” businesses (like a hypothetical yacht manufacturer) misses the economic ecosystem—every “luxury” business supports hundreds of regular jobs.
• Comparison to fossil fuels: activists who shun oil or capitalism often don’t realize these are embedded in all aspects of daily life.

Key Quotes:

“[Activists] would not grasp is, well, the guy who makes the canvas ... the people who put the engines together ... the people who lay the fiberglass... The people who make the trailers ...” — Chris Reavers (23:38)
“That argument sounds a lot like the fossil fuel argument... until [people] find out fossil fuels are in absolutely everything.” — Joe Soucheray (26:35)

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4. Real-World Examples & Pop Culture Parallels

[27:00–33:13]

• The crew references a memorable speech from Billy Bob Thornton’s character in the TV show "Landman" about society’s reliance on petroleum and technology—emphasizing the point that activist dreams of immediate “green” transformation are detached from reality.
• Discussion about how even activists depend on and indirectly support the capitalist, industrial system they critique.

Notable Moment:
Billy Bob Thornton as Tommy Norris, on oil’s ubiquity:

“It’s in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and antihistamines. Pretty much anything plastic, your cell phone case, artificial heart valves... every fucking thing. ... The thing that’s gonna kill us all is running out [of oil] before we find an alternative.” — [31:00]

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5. Minneapolis & St. Paul: Can They Survive Activist Leadership?

[25:54–26:20]

• The panel is pessimistic about the future of the Twin Cities under current leadership, arguing that demands for more public money to fix self-imposed problems are unsustainable.
• Observations on rising costs, declining city vitality, businesses closing, and exodus of profitable enterprises.
• The city’s responses (e.g., proposing taxes, bailing out small business post-ICE enforcement) miss root causes—politically driven closures and poor support for business.

Key Quotes:

“The cities are not going to survive this kind of ... political ideology. They just can’t. Unless the mystery wins and... everyone can share their misery. Equally. And then demand a bailout.” — Chris Reavers & Kenny Olson (26:13)

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6. Government Watchdog Groups & Local Politics

[74:29–78:15]

• Introduction of national watchdog group “Democracy Restored” calling for removal of a local official involved in previous activist “race scandal.”
• Questioning the effectiveness of identity-driven politics and whether local government composition actually delivers better outcomes for constituents.

Key Quote:

“The very thought of her having anything to do with the education of your children is appalling. But it just speaks to the uninformed voter... you’re just voting for political identity.” — Joe Soucheray (77:38)

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7. Humorous Banter, Listener Letters, and Local Knowledge

Throughout

• Running gags on pronunciations (“articat”, “Yamaha”, etc.), regional pride, and the frustrations of living in or running a business in the Twin Cities.
• Listeners’ letters highlight the appeal of traditional values and common sense; recommendations for American history podcasts.
• Ribbing each other about past concerts, classic rock, and personal histories.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Progressive Idealism vs. Reality:

  “These people, to rip their own people, are shooting themselves in the foot.” — Matthew (84:14)

• On Economic Reality:

  “If you’re successful in depriving hotels of liquor licenses, then what is the fallout effect on the liquor business? ... That’s the way a capitalist system would work.” — Chris Reavers (21:36)

• On Activist Blind Spots:

  “They think they’re just harming the hotel... How do they not realize they’re harming the city of Minneapolis?” — Joe Soucheray (22:46)

• Pop Culture Reference:

  “You can throw your phone away and trade that Mercedes in for a bicycle or a horse... but you’ll be the only one, and it won’t make a damn bit of difference. ... I hear the moral high ground gets real windy at night.” — Billy Bob Thornton as Tommy Norris in "Landman" (27:51)

• On The Inevitable Push for More Funding:

  “Now ... the legislative session is opening ... and we can go in and start asking for all the money we’ve caused small businesses to lose.” — Chris Reavers (35:30)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:38 – Letter on immigrant truck drivers and personal delivery stories
• 13:13 – “Mysterian” ideology: national and local policy fails (e.g., electric buses, NYC shootings, Minneapolis policy)
• 19:14 – Minneapolis Council debates: anti-ICE, small business funds, liquor licenses
• 21:47 – Chain economic impacts of activist-driven policy decisions
• 27:00 – "Landman" speech on dependence on oil and technological reality
• 33:13 – Reflection on activists’ disconnect from practical reality
• 39:06 – Decline of the Twin Cities and business exodus
• 74:29 – Watchdog group calls for removal of activist school board member

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Conclusion

This Garage Logic episode serves as both a critique and cautionary tale about the difference between ideological dreams and pragmatic governance. The hosts consistently illustrate—often humorously, sometimes with real frustration—how activist and “mysterian” policies can spiral into self-inflicted financial, social, and civic harm, especially for the working and middle class. Listeners are left with a plea to value common sense, remember the basics of economic interdependence, and recognize the profound costs of good intentions detached from practical thinking.

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For fans of sharp, irreverent Midwestern commentary blended with local news and common sense skepticism about activist governance, this episode is quintessential Garage Logic.

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Kenny Olson]

Great, how are you?

[Chris Reavers]

Not too bad. I got a nice letter from Graham. Hail the Flashlight King. Hail you. None of you were feeling it?

[Matthew]

It's Fat Tuesday.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe, I read yet another article today about illegal immigrant truck drivers getting commercial driver's licenses and causing deaths on our country's highways. This one was in Indiana. Amid heightened concern over highway deaths involving illegal drivers, Senator Jim Banks, Republican Indiana, is launching a truck SAF tip line for truckers to share concerns about illegals on roads. I'm getting sick of hearing about these incidents, Graham writes, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Kenny knows a lot more about this issue than I do. Let me stop right there, Graham. I don't know why Kenny would know any more about it than you do, but I wanted to hark back to a time you mentioned on an episode a while back about having a car you bought online, I assume. Bought online, I assume, and delivered to your home. You mentioned these car hauler drivers are all from Russia. That's been my experience on two occasions that I've either had a car arrive or had one disappear. Okay, it was Russian guys. I've since heard that most are from the country of Georgia, but close enough anyway. How many of them may be illegal versus legal? Who knows? What concerns me is that I have personal experience with one who delivered a collector car to me recently rang the doorbell and could not speak a word of English. I asked him something and he had this blank look in his eyes like, what are you saying? His accent was clearly Russian or Georgian when he mumbled something. Then he just handed me the keys and ran off quickly to his truck to go drop off the next car. What really honked me off was he left my car cockeyed in my driveway with a dead battery. The dealer I bought the car from later said, well, those guys are supposed to carry jumper starter boxes. Too bad for me, he was gone in a flash. Graham, you gotta email me back. You gotta tell me what we're talking about here. What kind of car? Now, what makes me wonder is this. Who gave this guy a commercial license. No idea if it was Minnesota or North Dakota where the car came from. Yes. Older cars from there have no rust. It could have been California, Illinois or wherever. Drivers are free to roam the country. But could this Ruski read road signs? What laws might he have broken during the four hour drive here? Should he even be in this country if he got citizenship, why the bleep did he get it without being able to speak our language? That's a good point. The other problem here is that these freelance immigrant truckers are undercutting legitimate US homegrown trucking businesses. The dealer I bought from chose the lowest bid for me. Just trying to be helpful and I ended up getting Joe Rusky. Here's the reason for me and G. Ellers. Here's the lesson for me and G. Ellers. Pay the higher price and support the good old USA boys. Well, that's funny he said that because in the likely event I'm going to require another car transported. I'm going expensive.

[Matthew]

You're not going to lowball.

[Chris Reavers]

Because on both occasions I've had real serious disappointments. One, actually both were sending cars away and I felt for the people who were buying them, if that makes sense because I didn't really care for the way they were being handled. And I didn't. They both got there or I would have known by now. But I sure didn't like the way they were being handled. And one of them I wanted to put on the trailer myself. And the guy, the guy wouldn't let me, right? He wouldn't let me. I have to do it, okay. And he just, he damn near burned out the clutch trying to get it on the truck. He didn't know what he was doing.

[Matthew]

Dumb Frenchman.

[Joe Sushore]

On to remember, we had a business idea it was going to be made in the USA car delivery where all of our drivers would be United States born.

[Chris Reavers]

I would love that.

[Joe Sushore]

And what's ironic, we both had the same kind of situation where they could not find the address of where they were supposed to pick the cars up. Right? And what's ironic is I used to be a courier when I was working in the real world and all we had was a map book. And when all you have is a map book, it's helpful. But you can really screw up on occasion with today's GPS and Maps and Google Maps. How can you screw that up? You enter in an address and you go to it.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, I remember I'm telling you the second time I had to load a car to be taken this one was going to be taken to Tennessee. I had to go find the driver.

[Joe Sushore]

Yes, so did we.

[Chris Reavers]

I had to go find the driver.

[Kenny Olson]

Is this the guy at the McDonald's?

[Chris Reavers]

Yep. And then it was all he could do to get himself out of McDonald's because he had a big trailer in there. I led him to my house and he too, handled it poorly. And he was showing me his phone. Everything was in krillic language.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

And you're nice enough guy. I'm not saying that. You know.

[Matthew]

Right.

[John Haidt]

But still.

[Chris Reavers]

But you. This is not a good. We need born in the USA car delivery.

[Joe Sushore]

Hey, if you don't like America, then.

[Chris Reavers]

You can get it.

[Joe Sushore]

And a lot of. A lot of these discussions that are going around the United States right now have nothing to do with Russians or car deliveries. It's the guys that are driving the 18 wheelers and they're. They're Muslim.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, I can say that I know nothing about that and have had no experience with it. Although as I get older and my freeway travel to Chicago and back, I've really noticed trucking behavior that didn't exist 15 years ago.

[Joe Sushore]

So take what you're seeing on the freeway now and imagine these guys trying to back into a very crowded dock situation. And I repeatedly. The most often heard story I hear from truck drivers is they finally got out of their own truck, went over there, pulled the guy out of that truck and backed it up to the dock for them. Because if they didn't, they'd be sitting there all day. I mean, these are guys that have seven attempts and you still can't get it right.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, you cannot pronounce the word C R E E k. But you have a very highly affected way of saying the word often. What the hell?

[John Haidt]

It's often.

[Chris Reavers]

There's no T in there that you have to hear. It's.

[Joe Sushore]

There's another one I do during traffic reports that when I hear it, I laugh to myself.

[Chris Reavers]

You can't even pronounce it. Yamaha. Yamaha and Creek.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. Another one. I don't articat.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't do arctic cat, ditch pickle.

[Joe Sushore]

It's articat.

[Kenny Olson]

I was in southern Minnesota over the extended holiday.

[Joe Sushore]

I'm in southern Minnesota often.

[Chris Reavers]

Chris, are you.

[Kenny Olson]

And I watched a driver who was not from this country on 35 north of Albert Lee pull a U turn. I'm not making it up.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, well, drivers cannot be from this country. That's fine. But you got to know what you're doing. Right, Joe?

[Joe Sushore]

Matthew used to live in Woodbury.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, did He I loved Woodbury.

[Joe Sushore]

Woodbury?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know of that place. I know of a Woodbury.

[Matthew]

No, we lived in Woodbury.

[Kenny Olson]

But it is B u r y.

[Chris Reavers]

Not B e r. Yesterday we had a bit of garage logic analysis of how mysterious ideology results in a great many financial messes that we have to pick up, we have to clean up. And today my eye was drawn to just a half dozen stories. I could have done them. Well, nationally, Vermont taxpayers are on the hook for $8 million for electric buses that don't start in the cold. Okay, the electric buses were not needed. They're driven by an activist ideology that's predisposed to be against fossil fuel because they think that's injurious. It's not. It's a miracle. A gallon of gasoline is a miracle. It performs a miracle. But no, we have to have electric. So there again the people who can least afford to, for example, people relying on the bus are gonna see their taxes go up in Vermont. Cause they squandered 8 million bucks on a couple of electric buses that don't work. And Vermont can get a cold win. But that's just national. They're everywhere. Another national one. One teenager has been arrested in connection with what officials described as a senseless shooting that broke out in New York City as crowds of children gathered at a bus stop after school dismissal. One 16 year old boy was killed. This happened, this was last Wednesday occurred at the Kingsbridge section of the Bronx amid what officials and witnesses characterize as an escalating wave of viol in the borough prompted prompting affected family members to criticize Mayor Zoran Mamdani and law enforcement for not doing enough to keep New Yorkers safe. Authorities identified the slain victim as Christopher Redding, an aspiring football player at John F. Kennedy High School who sustained a gunshot wound to the back. According to GoFundMe page, Redding was defending his friends who were being targeted by a group of individuals. And it goes on and on and on and on. But mom, Donnie is a mysterian who holds law enforcement in contempt. That's an attitude we see here in Minneapolis. It's not going to be helpful. And not only do we have to clean up the messes that results in financially, but it's hurting the people who mysterians pretend to be championing. It's hurting the people most who don't have a lot of money to escape these problems. Now here we have again. According to the Minneapolis Times, yesterday I read you a couple of notices from city council members to their constituents. Chugtai and Wansley, they don't want ICE to exist. Here's Jason Chavez. I am proud of you and our immigrant residents. You're resilient, you know, on and on and on. I will be thankful to the people who patrolled, observed and supported our community. Okay, that's great. Then he gets to this point. He gets to this point in his message. In fact, he concludes with continue to patrol, observe and support your neighbors. A recovery package. This is what he wants, a recovery package that includes support for small businesses and impacted neighbors who are facing hardship. Check me if I'm wrong, Larry, but during the height of the ICE anarchy here, didn't the businesses themselves, perhaps motivated by their worthies on the city council, didn't they all close.

[Joe Sushore]

And weren't they advised to close and shamed if they did not?

[Kenny Olson]

Not only shamed, they were intimidating those that did decide to stay open.

[Chris Reavers]

And now here's Chavez, who wants a recovery package that again, the taxpayers will have to provide to help the businesses. Who said, we'll show you we're going to close and not make any money. It made no sense to me at the time and it makes no sense to me now. Continuing with Chavez, no funding for ice, the repeal of the Lake and Riley act and the complete abolition of the system. So, like Wansley, like Chugtai, like the other Marxist socialists who are going to lead us to ruin, they don't want any immigration enforcement. I can only conclude logically that that means they don't want borders, but it's a free for all country to them.

[Joe Sushore]

There's one thing, and maybe I'm interrupting and you'll get to it. The Lake and Riley act is a federal law, right?

[Chris Reavers]

They want it rescinded.

[Joe Sushore]

Who cares what they want? That's like little kids playing in the backyard telling mom and dad what who cares what they want? It's a federal law. Just shut your mouth.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, I can tell you the sin they find in the Lake and Riley law is that the Lake and Riley law is the immediate get thrown in jail of a thief, a robber, a rapist, a murderer or whatever. You know, just minor stuff.

[Joe Sushore]

Seems reasonable to me.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know. It seems reasonable to me, but what they're complaining about is they think due process will be trampled upon.

[Kenny Olson]

I thought their biggest point was a discrimination. Isn't that their main point with rejecting that?

[Chris Reavers]

That too.

[Joe Sushore]

And children on a city council rebelling, passing something. What do they think? They're going to pass a resolution. What does that mean, opposing a federal.

[Chris Reavers]

Law today Minneapolis City Council to debate stance on federal immigration enforcement and local business impact. Now, when you hear about this, I don't know if there are enough people in Minneapolis to wake up. See, here's the problem. Here's the problem. The people in Minneapolis, as yet unaffected by a Marxist socialist city council, have enough money currently where they're not affected by it. A, you ultimately will be affected by it, and B, the people that you think care about people don't. Mysterians do not care about the very people who voted for them. The mysterians don't care because the people who voted for you cannot afford your ideology. Whether the mysterians like it or not, the country still runs on a capitalist system. So long as it does, everything you propose can only result in trouble and unaffordability for the people you think you're representing. It doesn't work. It can't work. Now, here's the City Council committee of the whole meeting today to come up with money to give to the people, mostly small business, who were hurt by the presence of ICE and also hurt by you idiots telling them to close their businesses in an act of salary solidarity. You're nuts.

[Joe Sushore]

There's actually three prongs in their misguided thrust today.

[Chris Reavers]

I got them here. Number one. Number one resolution imposing immigration enforcement funding they don't want. They don't want to fund. That's.

[Joe Sushore]

That's the Lake and Riley Act.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, I'm gonna. Number three is my favorite one. Yeah, I can't wait to really rest my case.

[Joe Sushore]

I'm chomping at.

[Chris Reavers]

I know. Settle down there, Larry. Number two, Minneapolis Small Business Resilienc Fund, where they're going to propose a general appropriation resolution to redistribute downtown assets funds towards a small business resiliency fund. Okay? Your ideology only hurts those small businesses and ultimately it's going to hurt everyone because you're creating a city too unattractive to work in. You're not going to have Fortune 500 companies that want to locate here. You have no wisdom in the way things work. You only have an ideology. Number three. The council will receive and file public comments regarding the liquor license renewals for two prominent downtown hotels, the Depot, Minneapolis Renaissance Hotel and the Canopy by Hilton. These renewals were previously delayed following reports that the hotels provided lodging for U.S. and Immigration Enforcement agents. The ideology compelled these morons to threaten these hotels with their liquor license. Now, just break that down logically. A, it's not their business who they rent a room to, right? B, it's not the city council's business to determine who you can rent a room to. C. If you're successful in depriving hotels of liquor licenses, then what is the fallout effect on the liquor business? What is the fallout effect of a guy who works in a liquor warehouse loads the semis? The semis go around and make their distribution. What about the guys that are in the semis? And they go around and make the distribution? They have families. They work for a living. Well, that's evil capitalism, right? The guy back at the warehouse, he's making a living because he's got his wheel dolly and he's got. What do we need? We got 4k going to the canopy. Okay, Load that up. And then on and on and on and on. Then you got the clerks in the liquor stores. You got the people who work in breweries, you got the people who work in distilleries. That's the way a capitalist system would work. Their ideology comes in, and they just think the liquor will continue to materially make itself and get distributed. We just don't want you to take it to these hotels. They don't factor in what that will cost. The business of making alcohol.

[Matthew]

Domino effect, trickle down.

[Chris Reavers]

It's hopeless to have these people running the city. It's completely hopeless. I just gave it to you. Could it.

[Joe Sushore]

Could it also include things like just food delivery? Food and beverage? Beyond liquor, of course. What about linen supply?

[Chris Reavers]

Of course.

[Joe Sushore]

So it could be every aspect of these businesses that the city somehow has oversight on.

[Chris Reavers]

Restaurant supply firms that supply plates and spoons and coffee cups and coffee makers and what have everything down the line. See, they.

[Joe Sushore]

They're misguided. They think they're just harming the hotel.

[John Haidt]

They're.

[Joe Sushore]

How do they not realize they're harming the city of Minneapolis? They're harming the. How do they not see everything you just brought up?

[Chris Reavers]

There's a. Because they have no experience in working. They only have experience filled into them at the failed academy. They've never worked. They don't understand how it works. Here's an example. This is a great one. It circles around the Internet. But I can make it a local example. If a luxury yacht firm decided to locate a manufacturing facility in Minneapolis and their yachts sold for a minimum of $2 million. And yet they had they located here because they've identified candidates for their yachts.

[Matthew]

Millionaires, per capit.

[Chris Reavers]

And they would like to provide them the yachts Robin wants. And if it was gonna be in the city of Minneapolis. But this is all never gonna Happen especially now with these people running the show. But let's say it happened in the luxury manufacturer of yachts. The manufacturer of luxury yachts located in Minneapolis. They would be opposed by Robin Wansley, Chug Tai, the Chavez phoney, the rest of them, because all they would see is the word luxury. So what they would not grasp is, well, the guy who makes the canvas for all the upholstery and the bimini tops and everything else that goes on the luxury out there, they're employed and they pay taxes. They have a job. The people who put the engines together have really good jobs in mechanical shops. The people who lay the fiberglass are artisans and they know how to do it and they're all employed and they have families and they send their kids to school and they make their living and pay taxes. And the people who make the trailers are also involved. And the people who make propellers and the people who make instruments and the people who make steering wheels and spotlights and light lenses and on and on and on and on. They would be providing a luxury yacht manufacturer provides. The old thing I've seen on the Internet is, you know, somebody goes up to a guy with a $2 million yacht in Fort Lauderdale at Pier 66, and of course it's a gray haired, prematurely gray haired, 42 year old woman and she lashes out at the owner. Don't you think that yacht would have paid a lot of fed a lot of people for the $2 million you paid? And the owner said, let me see. It provided food for the people who created the hull. It provided food for the people who created the engine. It provided food for people who created the instruments. It provided food for the people who created the upholstery and the canvas tops and on and on and on and on. That's what they don't get because they don't like capitalism. They don't like the marketplace because they deem it unfair.

[Kenny Olson]

They would say, it's time for us to introduce a wealth tax. Yeah, that's working.

[Chris Reavers]

All right. So Minneapolis, there's no use trying to beat around the bush anymore. And St. Paul too. The cities are not going to survive this kind of, kind of political ideology. They just can't. Unless the mystery wins and it's just we're completely done. And then everyone can share their misery.

[Kenny Olson]

Equally and then demand a bailout.

[Chris Reavers]

Right? But there'll be nobody left to provide the bailout. Right.

[Joe Sushore]

Kenny's plywood city is going to charge a hundred dollars for every sheet of 4 by 8 plywood that you Board up the window. Switch.

[Chris Reavers]

How about the loggers who provide the teak and the mahogany for the luxury yacht?

[Joe Sushore]

That. Funny, that argument sounds a lot like the fossil fuel argument. People that don't like fossil fuels until they decide they find out that fossil fuels are in absolutely everything. Everything you use are the animal rights people that find out, oh, my God, my shoes have leather in them.

[Chris Reavers]

What can you replay? I think we can do it. If we haven't. Don't worry, Chris. We got nothing but time.

[Guest Speaker]

Time.

[Chris Reavers]

It's a podcast. Can you replay. Can you find the Billy Bob Thornton speech he gave on season one in Landman? It's all over the Internet where the. The very smug lawyer who's been hired to work for the oil firm. And of course, she's a euphorian. As the season goes on, by the way, she becomes a greater and greater character. But in season one, Billy Bob Thornton. What's his. What's his name in the show? Tommy Norris. Tommy Norris. He's a Landman, which means he's an oil guy. And he takes this attorney out to an oil rig and gives her one of the great lectures of all time.

[Joe Sushore]

Because I think it's a windmill.

[Chris Reavers]

It's a solar farm or something. I think you can find it.

[Guest Speaker]

You can throw your phone away and trade that Mercedes in for a bicycle or a horse and start hunting for your own food and living in a town, but you'll be the only one, and it won't make a damn bit of difference. Plus, I hear the moral high ground gets real windy at night.

[Chris Reavers]

Why new pumps? What's wrong with these?

[Guest Speaker]

You mean wells too shallow?

[Chris Reavers]

How deep do they need to be, Dale?

[Joe Sushore]

Between 10 and 13,000ft.

[Chris Reavers]

But you gotta drill at an angle.

[Kenny Olson]

And then you gotta frack it.

[Chris Reavers]

Frack it? You shoot a shit ton of salt water down hole and you squeeze all.

[John Haidt]

That oil out of the frack, then you pump it up, separate the water. Technology.

[Chris Reavers]

It changed the game out here.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Isn't this the technology that's causing earthquakes in Oklahoma? There were earthquakes in Oklahoma before fracking, ma'.

[John Haidt]

Am.

[Chris Reavers]

Jesus Christ, Tommy. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Look.

[Chris Reavers]

You understand I don't think anyone should be doing this, all right? I think it should be illegal.

[Guest Speaker]

Well, then you should have run for Congress instead of getting a job with an oil company.

[Chris Reavers]

Me, I just. I have a very hard time advocating for something I believe is wrong.

[Guest Speaker]

Says the lawyer. Good and bad. Don't factor into this, Rebecca. Our great grandparents built a world that runs on this ship right here until it starts running on Something else. We gotta feed it or the world stops.

[Chris Reavers]

I think you better miss something.

[Joe Sushore]

This isn't the one. I'm sending you one right now. Chris.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. At the beginning, he lists.

[Joe Sushore]

They're in a truck.

[Chris Reavers]

All the things that oil are in, including your shoelaces. It's wonderful. We'll take a break though.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Kenny Olson]

Kenny, where am I supposed to cue this up?

[John Haidt]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Sushore]

There's just some silence as they're driving in a truck and they approach one of these windmills, okay. And Tommy starts talking about the. And all the money that was spent to put up the windmill. It's so funny.

[Kenny Olson]

We got an F worded here, but I queued it up for after that part. Is that okay? Okay, here we go, Billy Bob.

[Chris Reavers]

There we go.

[Guest Speaker]

Or winterize it. And it's 20 year lifespan. It won't offset the carbon footprint of making it. And don't get me started on solar panels and the lithium in your Tesla battery. Never mind the fact that if the whole world decided to go electric tomorrow, we don't have the transmission lines to get the electricity to the Cities. It'd take 30 years if we started tomorrow. And unfortunately for your grandkids, we have 120 year petroleum based infrastructure. Our whole lives depend on it. And hell, it's in everything. That road we came in on the wheels on every car ever made, including yours. It's in tennis rackets and lipstick and refrigerators and antihistamines. Pretty much anything plastic, your cell phone case, artificial heart valves, any kind of clothing that's not made with animal or plant fibers, soap, fucking hand lotion, garbage bags, fishing boats, you name it. Every Fucking thing. Jesus. And you know what the kicker is? We're gonna run out of it before we find its replacement.

[Chris Reavers]

It's the thing that's gonna kill us all as a species.

[Guest Speaker]

The thing that's gonna kill us all is running out before we find an alternative. Exxon thought them fucking things right, there was a future, they'd be putting them all over the goddamn place.

[Chris Reavers]

That's all out of the ground. Supposed to be fine. It's fine. We get her, we get it. Yeah, well, he's right.

[Matthew]

We freaking get it.

[John Haidt]

I don't feel so bad about what I said Friday. No, thank you, John.

[Chris Reavers]

But here's the deal. She plays. I'd like to. Boy, would Taylor share it. It'd be fun to talk to. He. He writes that he wrote to get him. He wrote Yellowstone. And boy, he's. He's. He's taking his shots where he can find him. That's rare in that industry where he's not. So.

[Joe Sushore]

Taylor loves Taylor.

[John Haidt]

Well, Joe, he's not. If you read the interview with him. I don't think he's what you think he is.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, well, he's interested in making money.

[John Haidt]

He's a great writer. Hell of a writer. He has some beliefs that you may not believe.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

Should be there. He's. He's very logical, I think. I mean, he's, you know, well, all that.

[Chris Reavers]

All that Tommy Norris is seeing there is all logic.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, he's. Well, he's a very well rounded guy.

[Chris Reavers]

Sure. No, what's going to kill us is running out of the alternative. Yep, that's what'll kill us. But see, there's a very bright actress playing a very bright attorney. Right? And see, that creates a conundrum. If that attorney lived on Lake of the Isles, is she voting for Robin Wansley and Asha Chugtai and Jason Chavez because she buys their ideology? Doesn't she understand the irony of her own misguided thinking? Thinking that's too deep. She gets this lawyer in, the show gets turned around, but it's just a show. It's not real life. So it's a. It's a conundrum. But anyway, back to the luxury yacht manufacturer. A, they won't locate here and B, if they did, they'd be vilified by the people you have running this city because they don't know how things work. They just don't get it. Did you want to take a timeout?

[Kenny Olson]

No, we got our add in. That's all I wanted you to do is just get an add in.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, back to this because there's much more. I just couldn't help keep finding these things. Where's this one? Yeah, this one's. Business associations and their legislative representatives asks as Minnesota grapples with economic losses following Operation Metro Surge. See, we've gotten to the point.

[Josh Arnold]

Where.

[Chris Reavers]

An economic loss is something mysterious believe should be shared by everyone.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that's how socialism works, right?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, but. But they're missing the part where they don't realize how they've contributed to the economic loss. They're creating the environment in which all of us end up responsible for paying for it. So we've gotten to the point now where they're excited because the legislative session is opening today and this opens up the new arena of asking for more money to cover the mistakes they've all made.

[Kenny Olson]

This is.

[Chris Reavers]

This is insanity.

[Joe Sushore]

That's not what I want this session to be about. We've got real issues.

[Chris Reavers]

We've got real issues. But the euphorians and the mysterians are all excited because a new trough has opened its door again for a new season. And we can go in and start asking for all the money we've caused small businesses to lose. Cuz we won't share any information with federal law enforcement agencies.

[Matthew]

Fresh pile of money.

[Joe Sushore]

That whole fraud thing isn't even a bump in the road for them.

[Kenny Olson]

Kenny Loyal, town council member Shannon has an email regarding Kenny's plywood city. Yeah, $100 per sheet would be a bargain right now. When the riots kicked off.

[Joe Sushore]

1000 dol. Shannon.

[Kenny Olson]

2020. We paid $130 per sheet. And don't forget to adjust for inflation.

[Chris Reavers]

I noticed the sheet. How big is the sheet?

[Joe Sushore]

It's four by eight.

[Chris Reavers]

Fits in a station wagon. Well, an American station wagon from the 60s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Like Clark Griswold.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, yeah. Vacation mobile.

[Joe Sushore]

I know.

[Chris Reavers]

Shannon.

[Joe Sushore]

Shannon, let's start a business.

[Kenny Olson]

Plywood City.

[Joe Sushore]

She's a good cheater.

[Chris Reavers]

What did a sheet of plywood cost before George? Floyd. Floyd.

[Joe Sushore]

I bought some board for $9 a sheet, I think.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh come on. How did it go from nine dollars to a hundred dollars? Well, we need.

[Joe Sushore]

Oh, it was OSB because I bought it at an auction for less than retail and I think I paid eight or nine dollars a sheet.

[Chris Reavers]

While you were buying used plywood, Brand.

[Joe Sushore]

New plywood at a lumber yard that was going out of business. And I think right now OSB isn't OSB right around 10 bucks.

[Chris Reavers]

What's.

[Joe Sushore]

I'll look it up. It's that pressed plywood oh, that stuff.

[Chris Reavers]

Made out of corn kernels or something?

[Joe Sushore]

It's wood. But hold on. Made out of osb. Home Depot.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. Here we go. We're gonna get the price in case people want to.

[Matthew]

OSB today is stock.

[Joe Sushore]

Matthew, how'd you beat me?

[Matthew]

43:13.

[Joe Sushore]

No, that can't be.

[Matthew]

Nordberg Inc. Stock price today. How much is an 8 by 4 sheet of OSB? This is London.

[Joe Sushore]

$13.48. Starting the low prices.

[Chris Reavers]

If you looked it up at ruples, it's only. It's only basic garage logic to understand how the people in Minneapolis are not benefiting the city, the politicians. It's only logical. Restaurants and hotels, some reporting 50% drop in revenue. Others have closed altogether. Who's this from? The hospitality industry has been heaviest hit, said Adam Dunnick, the president and CEO of the Minneapolis Downtown Council. Now, in the real world, the guy who's the president and CEO of the Minnesota Downtown Council, he's even been sucked into the problem because he's now having to lobby on behalf of the failures for more money. But the failures were brought about by the mysterious ideology. So what does that mean? Now the real challenge. We're not going to have strong. We're not done says we're not going to have a strong region or a Greater Minnesota or the rest of the state without a strong Minneapolis. You're not, but you're losing Minneapolis.

[Kenny Olson]

Both.

[Chris Reavers]

Both St. Paul and Minneapolis are a shadow of what they used to be before they were taken over by socialists.

[Matthew]

Yeah, and Minneapolis even more so because it's bigger.

[Chris Reavers]

So.

[Joe Sushore]

Okay, you just lost me, Joe. I. I'm turning in my resignation right now. I just ordered ten 100 sheets of OSB for a thousand dollars. 1058. Which Shannon, I are going to sell for 125 each. Chris, what's the math on that? 1000 sheets of plywood at $125.

[Chris Reavers]

Shannon, even I could do that.

[Joe Sushore]

You should find a new vacation home because we are going to be rich. We are gonna be rich, bitches.

[Chris Reavers]

Why don't we go take a little time out here, huh?

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Sushore]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Sushore]

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[Chris Reavers]

I want to finish something before we get to Johnny. I was telling you about the City council Minneapolis meeting today. They're going to discuss. We went through this but I missed two. We're discussing a resolution opposing immigration enforcement fund funding. We're proposing a small business resiliency fund because you told businesses to close. We're questioning liquor license renewals for certain hotels because you're going to determine who should stay there or not. But there are two more advocacy groups and some community members have called for the licenses to be scrutinized or denied, arguing that businesses cooperating with ICE are acting in opposition of Minnesota's sanctuary city values and policies. Well, those values and policies are going to contribute to the ruin of the city. And finally, industry advocates and legal experts express concern that the city may be overstepping its licensing authority by using it as a tool for political leverage. You think there are also concerns regarding the potential for litigation against the city and the economic impact on hotel staff and the broader hospitality sector if the licenses are withheld based on the identity of the hotel's guests. In other words, I think what the Council of the whole did is they identified the three things they're going to be weighing in on today. That meeting started at 9:30 this morning and they also acknowledged that if there's any public in the pews, they're worried about what I just wrote about. So you have there's really not much more to say on this if you follow the logic of what they're up to. There isn't any and the city will continue to suffer. Here's John Haidt.

[John Haidt]

Thank you Joe. This news brought to you by North American banking company OneQuick Sports note it's not a good one.

[Kenny Olson]

One day we're going to win twins.

[John Haidt]

What happened one day after the twins first full squad spring training workout? The Minnesota Twins have already suffered a serious injury blow. Pablo Yep, Pablo is expected. That'd be Pablo Lopez, the ace of the staff expected to miss the entire 2026 season due to significant tearing of his UCL.

[Chris Reavers]

He had a little soreness in his elbow yesterday. They put him in an MRI and.

[John Haidt]

This is what Lopez left his workout early on Monday.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe yeah, Monday. Yeah.

[John Haidt]

MRI confirmed the tear according to general manager Jeremy Zoll. Zoll didn't officially rule Lopez out, saying the team's ace is seeking a second opinion, but noted season ending elbow surgery is an option. A 29 year old Lopez is entering his fourth season with the Twins, was also set to pitch for Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic. This three years as a Twin he's gone 31 and 22, posting a 3.68 ERA with 5. 505 strikeouts across 455 innings. He was also very good in the 2023 postseason, throwing 12 1/3 innings while allowing just one run en route to two Twins wins.

[Chris Reavers]

I'd like to ask Pablo a question. Did you play catch this winter? Did you? Did you, did you just show up at camp and start throwing 100 miles an hour? Did you build up to this?

[Kenny Olson]

You're very outraged.

[John Haidt]

Really?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, that was their only shot.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. In fact, Johnny and I were talking about this. The one thing to look forward that was, you know, you're expected to look forward to was pitching a win every four days.

[Chris Reavers]

Maybe.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[Chris Reavers]

But seriously, all of October, November, December and January, didn't he bother to maybe see if he was throwing?

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, well the problem is a lot of these guys were coming in early because of the World Baseball Classic. And I have a feeling that this is going to be the last World Baseball Classic we will have.

[Chris Reavers]

That doesn't. That doesn't excuse my concern. World Baseball Classic or not.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I'm answering your question.

[Chris Reavers]

Did he just come to camp and start throwing heat for after a four month layoff?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, that's stupid.

[John Haidt]

Well.

[Matthew]

It used to be.

[Chris Reavers]

That's what I just said.

[Matthew]

It used to be three days of woblo and let's hope for Pablo.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay.

[Matthew]

Wasn't it like that?

[John Haidt]

Jesus.

[Kenny Olson]

What is wobble?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Matthew]

It rhymes with Pablo.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Can you please Sane in spawn rooks. He's saying Got it. It rhymed with rain and pray for.

[Matthew]

Signed a 4 year 73 million dollar contract with the Twins, including a million dollar signing bonus. 73. 5 guaranteed and an average annual salary of 18.3.

[Chris Reavers]

So what? He didn't work out in October.

[Matthew]

Culver guaranteed money Padre.

[John Haidt]

That's what I mean. But I don't want to sit and talk baseball.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't either. I knew it. To get to.

[John Haidt]

That's what you. That's what you get when you sign pitchers. You take that chance. Just like the Yankees with Garrett Cole. He missed.

[Matthew]

You know, if I was a major league general guy, manager guy, I would stop that trend.

[John Haidt]

So. So you wouldn't have any two. You wouldn't have any pitching.

[Matthew]

In other words, we'd all have catchers.

[Kenny Olson]

What would be the rookie business model of being a major League baseball general manager?

[Chris Reavers]

They're going to have it coming up. There won't be a 27 season, no pitchers. There won't be a 27 season, no.

[John Haidt]

Boy, we better quit talking sports at this point. In new. The new legislative session began at the state Capitol today with a tribute to late House Speaker Emeritus Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, the two killed in what law enforcement has called a politically motivated attack during a home invasion in June. Hortman's seat will remain empty throughout the session, marked by a photo and a flower as a memorial. DFL House Leader Zach Stevenson said it will not only be a tribute to Hortman, but will serve as a reminder of the dangers of heated rhetoric and misinformation. Federal prosecutors have announced five convictions in connection with a drug trafficking ring that has been linked to one of the largest and most powerful drug cartels in the world. U.S. attorney's office is 47 year old Eric Rodriguez became the fifth conviction after a jury found him guilty of conspiracy to distribute meth and drug possession last week. Eric Aguilar, Juan Elvar, Eduardo Gonzalez and Bruce Orton have already pleaded guilty in their cases. Prosecutors say the group, led by Mexican national Aguilar, distributed meth throughout Minnesota from April 2024 to March 2025, sometimes moving hundreds of pounds at a time across state lines. Altogether, Investigators seized about 60 pounds of meth, 1500 fentanyl pills and more than $20,000 from people connected to the organization, according to prosecutors. Evidence has linked the Diaz Aguilar drug traff organization to the Serenos street gangs and the Sinaloa cartel, a notorious transnational operation.

[Joe Sushore]

Jay and I are working on lining up somebody to talk about this very subject in the coming weeks and how this has affected the flow of drugs in the Twin Cities, if at all. It's just finding the right person, the right, you know, the right person to talk to. So it's an interesting thing topic.

[John Haidt]

Bloomington police say a man who's been doing background checks for ICE during the federal government's immigration enforcement crackdown has now been charged with being among people snared in a prostitution sting in Bloomington. 36 year old Rashad Johnson of St. Michael was charged in Hennepin County District Court yesterday with a gross misdemeanor count of trying to hire a woman for sex. Police Chief Booker Hodges said Johnson worked for the Defense Department doing security clearance for federal agencies. Hodges said at a news conference, it's a most disturbing arrest that, that we've had here. He's a backgrounder for ice, Homeland Security and federal agencies. So when you're getting your security clearance, this is one of the guys that does your backgrounds, which is kind of scary.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, sorry, John.

[Chris Reavers]

Booker Hodges should run the FBI.

[Kenny Olson]

No nonsense.

[Chris Reavers]

If the FBI ran as efficiently as Bloomington does, Booker Hodges would have it under control.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, as John was doing that story, it made me think this has happened in Bloomington a couple of times. Is it because of the police force course or the close proximity with the airport?

[Chris Reavers]

I think it's a location problem.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, it's Gotcha. Yeah, the Strip Hotel.

[Kenny Olson]

Gotcha.

[John Haidt]

National Bass Fishing championship event coming to Minnesota this summer. The Bass Angler Sportsman Society announced Yesterday that the 2026 Strike King Bassmaster College Championship will be held at Leech Lake, August 20th through the 22nd.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, cool.

[John Haidt]

It's the first time the collegiate event is being held at Leech Lake. Bemidji previously hosted the College Series National Championship 2017. The lake, about 200 miles north of the Twin Cities, is Minnesota's third largest fully in state. Lake spans about 112,000 acres. It's known as a world class walleye fishery, but also has a growing largemouth and smallmouth bass population. As part of the summer event, college anglers from across the country will come to Minnesota to compete for a national title. More tournament details are scheduled to be announced at a later time.

[Kenny Olson]

Does ld have a role in something like this?

[Chris Reavers]

That. No.

[Joe Sushore]

No.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay.

[Joe Sushore]

Is this going to be a. A, A drunken insane event like Eel Pout Fest?

[Chris Reavers]

No, no. These are. This is collegiate.

[Joe Sushore]

Won't be any fun.

[Chris Reavers]

These are. Hey, these are scholarship fishing.

[Matthew]

This is scholarship for the Smelt Run. They're running.

[Chris Reavers]

This is. This is the real deal.

[John Haidt]

A couple of concerts out fast.

[Chris Reavers]

Come on, man. No, that's just a winter carnival.

[John Haidt]

Couple of counter concert announcements for the Twin Cities verse Spring Springsteen kicking off a new U.S. concert tour with the show at the Target Center, March 31. So far, 20 concerts on the Springsteen and East Street Band itinerary. Tickets go on sale for the concert at Target Center Friday at noon. And a good one for baby boomers and fans of classic rock. Santana and the Doobie Brothers play the new Mystic Lake Amphitheater.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, that'll be a good show.

[John Haidt]

Oh, yeah. Thursday, August 27th. Pre sales of tickets already happening, but the regular ticket sales start this Friday.

[Kenny Olson]

You've seen Santana live, Johnny?

[John Haidt]

I've seen Santana three times. First time in 1978. Killer show.

[Joe Sushore]

I bet.

[John Haidt]

Every time. Every time I've seen him.

[Joe Sushore]

Were you tripping balls, Johnny?

[John Haidt]

I was. I was not tripping balls on any of them, Kenny. Maybe a beer or two at him, but that's about it.

[Chris Reavers]

All right.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, yeah, you're a real stuffed shirt, aren't you?

[John Haidt]

I just saw that doobies, isn't he? The Doobie's open for Steely Dan here. About three years ago. I saw them there, so, yeah, I'm.

[Kenny Olson]

Excited for that new amphitheater. I think that's gonna be cool.

[Chris Reavers]

Where's it at?

[Kenny Olson]

Right outside of Canterbury.

[Chris Reavers]

Outside?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, That's. That's.

[Chris Reavers]

Ain't got no roof on it.

[John Haidt]

Amphitheater. That's why they call it that.

[Matthew]

Okay, how many doie brothers are still original?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know, man.

[John Haidt]

Tom Johnston and Pat Simmons. The two important ones, Rook, are still original. They're the two guys that sang everything and.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, why are you ripping Michael McDonald?

[John Haidt]

Oh, hang on. Michael McDonald's also is. And Michael McDonald wouldn't be an original Doobie Brother. That's Chris.

[Chris Reavers]

He joined.

[John Haidt]

He joined five years in.

[Joe Sushore]

What about the Skunk?

[Chris Reavers]

John?

[John Haidt]

Skunk is not there. He does not tour with the Doobie Brothers anymore. He tours with his own little combo.

[Kenny Olson]

And, well, he was always outspoken. Very much so. Wasn't he.

[Chris Reavers]

John?

[Joe Sushore]

Is he working for Trump?

[John Haidt]

Not that I know.

[Chris Reavers]

Probably working for NASA.

[John Haidt]

He hasn't had anything to do with politics or the government in about 10 years.

[Chris Reavers]

Didn't he invent radar or something? He.

[Joe Sushore]

No.

[Matthew]

Wasn't he the guy in charge of bootlegging?

[Joe Sushore]

John, they're cast.

[John Haidt]

We've. We're cast fishing again. And I'm not realizing he was in.

[Chris Reavers]

Charge of illegal bootlegging.

[Kenny Olson]

Very outspoken.

[Joe Sushore]

Every hook down.

[Chris Reavers]

He taught Elon Musk everything he knows.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, very. Oh, I get Chris's reference now. Thank you, Chris. That was a good joke, and I missed it.

[Chris Reavers]

You're all right. Hey, hey, hey.

[John Haidt]

Yep, there you go, Rook.

[Kenny Olson]

So he was featured, Joe. On one of the fine, fine television episodes of.

[Chris Reavers]

What's Happening, John, you got more going here.

[John Haidt]

The whole band was. Let me explain. The whole band was. It was a show piracy.

[Joe Sushore]

You're so easy, Johnson.

[Chris Reavers]

John.

[John Haidt]

More news, but before we get to it.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

I'm going to tell you more about.

[Chris Reavers]

No, I'm not.

[John Haidt]

I'm going to ask Chris Reavers to perhaps pass some information along to us.

[Kenny Olson]

I am going to pass along a phone number and a website of someone you need to get in contact with right away, and that's linda keller and kellertaxservice.com you can book your appointment online or call her directly at 320-352-0013. Ladies and gentlemen, February is already more than half over. Get your butt on that schedule now before she fills up. And then don't come crying and whining to me when you forgot to book your appointment. I've been telling you about Linda Keller and Keller Tax Service for a number of years, right? Now, here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen. She handles all types of returns for types of people and businesses all throughout the great US of A. So it doesn't matter if you live in Phoenix or Alaska. It doesn't matter. Linda Keller will take care of you. 320-352-0013 as long as you're going on that [e-mail] you can see every single piece of updated tax information. Her website is phenomenal, but see it for yourself. Kellertaxservice.com, book your appointment with our Gale Linda. And please do me a a favor and mention that you heard about her here on the Garage Logic podcast. John.

[John Haidt]

Thank you, Chris. I'm going to tell you one more thing about Jeff Baxter. Whether you guys want to do it.

[Joe Sushore]

Or not, I do want to know it.

[John Haidt]

In the 1990s, when I was writing pretty much monthly for Vintage Guitar magazine, I interviewed Jeff. This is before it was known that he did all the stuff with the Pentagon etc, etc. And he spieled everything to me, just told me everything, which was fascinating to hear. It was usually those interviews I do would take 20 minutes to a half hour, hour. I talked to him for about two and a half hours.

[Joe Sushore]

What was it? It was some kind of techno. Do you remember what it was?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

He wrote a letter or a paper.

[John Haidt]

He wrote a letter to a congressman who then referred him to the Defense Department. And he his main claim to fame is he ended up taking part in war games and he was always the enemy and he always defeated the Pentagon in these war games.

[Chris Reavers]

He invented bullets.

[John Haidt]

Anyway, back to my story. He was going to put together a run for Congress in California and he asked if he could use everything I wrote, which I was honored. Obviously, I said yes. The magazine said yes. But then he got back to me and he said, I've decided not to run. I said, what? Can I ask why? You kind of make sense. And he said, because there's two reasons. He said, I'm not. Everybody's going to think I'm a conservative, he said, which I am militarily, he said, but socially, I'm very much a liberal. And he said I have some things in my past where I may have used illicit substances.

[Chris Reavers]

Really? I bet he. I bet that would be a problem.

[John Haidt]

And that was the late 90s, so it would have been a bigger problem. Obviously now it's no big deal since.

[Joe Sushore]

We'Re on the subject and I'll never get a chance to ask you again. I've seen him on a Linda Ronstadt Live yes.

[Chris Reavers]

Song.

[Joe Sushore]

Maybe I don't remember what it was for, but he's playing the tambourine.

[John Haidt]

No, he's playing Congress.

[Joe Sushore]

Oh, the Congo drums.

[John Haidt]

Yep.

[Kenny Olson]

Why?

[Joe Sushore]

Why? It's Such an accomplished guitar player. Why did he. Why was he playing those?

[John Haidt]

Because he wanted a gig. At the time, it was shortly after the Steely Dan thing and Steely Dan broke themselves up. Fagan and Becker didn't want to tour, so they said, see you guys, you're all fired. Bas. So in between gigs, he worked with Linda Ronstadt doing that. He also played guitar with her on some stuff.

[Joe Sushore]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

But she had an excellent. You remember Andrew Gold, killer guitar player, so.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay, that's enough.

[Joe Sushore]

It's fascinating. Let him go.

[Chris Reavers]

You know what? Baxter's funny looking.

[Matthew]

Yeah, we gotta move on.

[Josh Arnold]

He's not very handsome.

[John Haidt]

Joe, have you. Have you looked at a mirror lately? Joe. Whoa.

[Joe Sushore]

Singer.

[Chris Reavers]

He's funny looking looking anyway.

[John Haidt]

Jeff Baxter.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, that was a fun job.

[Matthew]

John, when you did write for Vintage Guitar, no serious question. Was it difficult or was it easy for guys to do interviews with you because you were so guitari guitari?

[John Haidt]

Was it easy on their part?

[Matthew]

No. I mean, were they willing to do that right away or.

[John Haidt]

Oh, every. Every. I've never. I did 3, 400 interviews. I never met anybody who was crappy. Oh, I met guys who were shy, you know, I remember Big Head Todd.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, Yeah.

[John Haidt]

I. Todd Parkmore. I interviewed him. Very quiet, not. Not mean. He just didn't want to talk about him.

[Joe Sushore]

Chris. I saw their very first show in Minneapolis at the Uptown Bar. Me and about 10 other people, less than a dozen.

[Chris Reavers]

You want to go down that road? Who. Who was Big Head Todd's buddy when they would play Basilica Bar, Block Party.

[Joe Sushore]

That was after my time.

[Chris Reavers]

Director of the Cathedral, Michael. Okay.

[Matthew]

Oh, Father Michael.

[Chris Reavers]

He was a buddy of Todd Park Moore.

[Joe Sushore]

My best Big Head Todd show was the night we went to Frank Sinatra. And I had just the right amount of every kind of chemical you can imagine in me. And it was. It's still the most memorable, memorable night of my life. Frank Sinatra and Big Ed Todd and then hijinks afterwards.

[John Haidt]

That first Big Head Todd album's pretty good. All right, we'll stop talking music now. Let's go to national and international news tributes coming in for the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who died overnight in Chicago. He was 84. As a young organizer in Chicago, Jackson was called to meet with Martin Luther King at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis shortly before King was killed, and he publicly tried to position himself thereafter as King's successor. Jackson led a lifetime of crusades in the US and abroad, advocating for poor and underrepresented on issues from voting rights and job opportunities to education and health care. He scored Diplomatic victories with world leaders. Through his Rainbow Push coalition, he channeled cries for black pride and self determination into corporate boardrooms, pressuring executives to make America a more open and equable equitable society. Jackson had his share of critics, of course, both within and outside the black community. Some considered him a grandstander to eager to seek out the Spotlight. Jackson born 1941 in Greenville, South Carolina. A star quarterback on the football team at Sterling High School in Greenville. He accepted a football scholarship from the University of Illinois. But he was told there that black people couldn't play quarterback. So he transferred to North Carolina A and T in Greensboro where he became first string quarterback and honor student in sociology and economics and a student body president. Arriving on the historically black campus in 1960, just months after students there launched sit ins in whites only lunch counters, Jackson immersed himself into the civil rights movement. By 1965, he joined the voting rights march that King led from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama. King dispatched him to Chicago to launch Operation Breadbasket, a Southern Christian Leadership Conference effort to pressure companies to hire black workers. Jackson was with King on April 4th, 1968 when he was shot. Jackson's account of the assassination was that King died in his arms, but that's disputed by other members of King's party that day. And Jackson is not shown in any of the photos of the shooting's aftermath. 1984 he apologized for what he thought were private comments to a reporter calling New York City hymie town a derogatory reference to its large Jewish population. And in 2008, he made headlines when he complained that Barack Obama was talking down to black people. People in comments captured by a microphone. He didn't ozone during a taping.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, but he was right.

[John Haidt]

He had influence abroad too, meeting world leaders and scoring diplomatic victories, including the re release of Navy Lieutenant Robert Goodman from Syria in 1984, as well as the 1990 release of more than 700 foreign women and children held after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. In 1999, he won the freedom of three Americans, Americans imprisoned by Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic. Thank you very much Rook. I appreciate that I even practiced that one. Milosevic among the tributes today, one from President Trump. Trump saying I knew him well long before I became president. He was a good man with lots of personality, grit and street smarts. He was very gregarious, someone who truly loved people. Jesse was a force of nature like few others before him. Historians weighing in. John May talking about Jackson on CBS Morning saying his he was part of vital part of the freedom struggle. He called Jackson an enormously important figure between the 1960s era of the civil rights movement and the Obama era. Jesse Jackson was 84 years old. Excuse me NAACP and other organizations asking a judge this week to protect personal voter info that was seized by the FBI from an election warehouse just outside of Atlanta. Georgia residents entrusted the state with their, quote, sensitive personal information when they registered to vote and the January 28 seizure of ballots and other election documents from the Fulton County Elections Hub breaches that guarantee, According to the naacp, the motion asked the judge to order reasonable limits on the government's use of the seized data and to prohibit the government from using the data for purposes other than the criminal investigation cited in the search warrant affidavit. By the way, the FBI's agent affidavit presented to a magistrate judge to obtain the search warrant says the criminal investigation began with a referral from Kurt Olson, who advised Trump as he tried to overturn his 2020 election loss and now serves as Trump's director of election security and integrity. Gunman who killed two people and critically injured three others at a high school hockey game in Rhode island on Monday afternoon has been identified as a transgender dad who railed against anti trans hate in family legal disputes and deranged social media rants. 56 year old Robert Dorgan, who shot four family members and a family friend before he turned the gun on himself following the deadly rampage at the Pawtucket ice rink, used the female alias Roberta Esposito, according to Pawtucket Police Chief Tina Gonkelves. We have identified the person, she said the suspect by a birth name Robert Dorgan. We've also learned he went by the name of Roberta Esposito. The night before the suspect stormed the hockey tournament with a gun, he ominously replied keep bashing us but do not wonder why we go berserk in response to an anti trans X post. Dorgan was the father of North Providence High School senior who was taking part in the hockey tournament. He reportedly underwent gender reassignment surgery in 2020, according to court filings obtained by local station WPR.

[Chris Reavers]

Did you see a picture of the guy? Yep, that's all I asked.

[Matthew]

So the the son was playing in this tourney and four other family members were there to watch him.

[Kenny Olson]

It was his ex wife, that's correct, yeah.

[John Haidt]

The fatal victims of the shooting, the mother of the son and a student.

[Chris Reavers]

And a good Samaritan went Rambo on a guy before he could shoot?

[John Haidt]

More exactly.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, there was a post too from another parent that Said that this guy was just off his rocker. He'd show up at games and just start lifting weights in front of everybody.

[Chris Reavers]

It's like, what are you doing as a woman?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Roberta. No, no.

[Chris Reavers]

You know this.

[John Haidt]

Go ahead.

[Kenny Olson]

I know where you're going.

[Chris Reavers]

I looked up. Is there any way to determine rates of violence committed by transgender. Transgenders. And maybe that's not fair. Maybe it is fair. But the only thing that you find is violence committed against transgenders.

[Kenny Olson]

Sure.

[Chris Reavers]

There's. So there. There is no.

[Matthew]

Interesting.

[Chris Reavers]

And perhaps there's nothing to be learned. I'm just suggesting. I was curious because it seems to me this has happened a few times.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, wasn't one of the first many times. The one. The elementary school shooter that was trans in Tennessee. Who. Sorry.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Who had a manifesto and that was hidden from the public.

[Commercial Narrator]

Right.

[Chris Reavers]

What about the Charlie Kirk shooter? No. He was just.

[Kenny Olson]

He was just nuts.

[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

He had a annunciation.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, yeah.

[John Haidt]

He had.

[Kenny Olson]

You're right. Johnny. Johnny's right. He had a trans partner. That's what it was.

[Chris Reavers]

And, you know, and the trans people say, that's not representative of us. And. And there's no. I cannot find any material.

[Joe Sushore]

They turn it around and blame it.

[Chris Reavers]

On firearms or blame it on people who don't like them.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. When it's a mental health issue.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know if my kids would pose with me if I. I had that outfit on, that.

[Matthew]

Roberta, if you were Josephina.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. Oh, Josephine. Kind of a tough. I'd have the bad hair.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. I've got the hairy cleavage.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

You need to get that. That. Who was it? Nipsey Russell Wig. Who did that?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know, man.

[Matthew]

Who did the one that had the.

[Joe Sushore]

Geraldine.

[Matthew]

Geraldine.

[Kenny Olson]

Flip Wilson.

[Joe Sushore]

Flip Wilson.

[Chris Reavers]

It is.

[John Haidt]

A new Nationwide survey of 21,000Americans reveals 62% of adults reported using at least one pill in the previous seven days, which works out to well over 100 million people nationwide. Even more startling, 1 in 6Americans is juggling five or more medications weekly. About 3% of participants reported taking 10 or more different medications in seven days. Medication use cuts across age groups starting as early as middle age and climbing steadily. Older adults most likely to take the medications. Women use medication at higher rates than men. 67% compared to 57. A set of Menophen counts as one that topped the list. Roughly 3 in 10 people took it during the week. Researchers asked about that. Asked about what?

[Chris Reavers]

Is that Tylenol?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ibuprofen came in second and aspirin third. As Far as prescription drugs go, the Adipose Statin, the cholesterol lowering drug sold as Lipitor, ranked fifth. Blood pressure medications, lisinopril and amlodipine ranked the top 10. There's a thyroid medicine that ranks seventh.

[Chris Reavers]

I try to not take any pills. There are some, but.

[Kenny Olson]

Not even a vitamin.

[Chris Reavers]

I only vitamin count because I take.

[Joe Sushore]

Vitamin D. Just the ones my cardiologist makes me take.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I've been handed at night magnesium.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, it's magnesium. I've been mistakenly taking that in the morning. That's a nighttime.

[Matthew]

You think she's putting it in my steak?

[Joe Sushore]

No, you gotta. That helps you sleep, Matthew. Okay, I disagree.

[Matthew]

I trust her completely.

[Joe Sushore]

Take it at night.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay. She's. No, I wouldn't. I do. You better check that stuff.

[Matthew]

If it's the blue one, I probably shouldn't take it.

[Joe Sushore]

But if it's white, it's helped me with my aches and pains. Joe.

[Chris Reavers]

It has?

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah. Magnesium. Yep.

[John Haidt]

All right. Okay. Interesting.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, Johnny, that's pretty interesting stuff.

[John Haidt]

More about Jeff Battle.

[Chris Reavers]

No, I don't.

[Joe Sushore]

I do. Let's go to break because I have a lot to talk about, John, before.

[Kenny Olson]

We do, I forgot to share this loyal town council member Paul, when we were talking about Walls and all the things earlier in the show. Isn't it funny that Walls was able to figure out how much money Minnesota lost in 30 days due to ICE, but couldn't figure out $9 billion were stolen year after year after year? Paul, that is freaking brilliant.

[Chris Reavers]

He's right.

[Kenny Olson]

And he's 100% right.

[Matthew]

Okay.

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[Chris Reavers]

A century, I'd guess.

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[Chris Reavers]

Guitar up at the ranch Guitar ranch the earth is not Your mother, the Joe Su. You know what this country has a lot of? Fraud?

[Joe Sushore]

Podcasts.

[Chris Reavers]

Podcasts? Watchdog groups. Oh, sure. Yeah, we got a lot of watchdog groups. What are we watching? I came across one that I might like. A watchdog group has called for the removal of St. Paul School member Chantille Allen. She shouldn't be on the school board. She's the one that fomented the fake race riot at a Japanese restaurant a couple of years ago. And she was among the people who went in the church to protest about ice.

[Matthew]

Okay.

[Chris Reavers]

But there's an organization called Democracy Restored. I looked them up. I don't know who they are. They must have local chapters. I can find nothing local about them. But America is a nation founded upon the belief that the people should have a say in how they are governed. Our governance is to be declined by the people. Are it? I'm sorry? Our governance is to be decided by the people in our republic through their elected representatives. Article 2 of the Constitution begins, the executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States. Officials and employees of the federal executive branch who take an oath to uphold the Constitution are therefore subordinates to the president in keeping with their obligations under the Constitution. What does that have to do with. This is who they are. It's a nonpartisan organization that exists to educate the public about how its government really works and how it far too often doesn't. We work to expose the actions of people, including unelected bureaucrats in our government that may be influencing policy against the wishes of the American people have expressed through their elected representatives. Okay. Anyway, they're against Chantill Allen. I couldn't be more supportive of being against Chantill Allen. The very thought of her having anything to do with the education of your children is appalling. But it just speaks to the uninformed voter. Or you're just voting for political identity. In this case, a black lesbian, I believe. I hope I'm not wrong. I think so. But she's not unelected. She's an elected member of the school board. And the Democracy Restored has called for her removal from her post because of her connection to the anti ice mob that stormed the city's church in St. Paul. I wouldn't have her on the board now. The Democracy Restored has asked the St. Paul Board of Education to remove her from her role. Under state law, school board members can be removed from their post by a vote of the school board's other members. Members? I would find it not likely that the other board members would vote to remove her, probably. They're all of a mind. They're just activists. They have nothing to do with proper education anyway. Go. Democracy restored. If it gets rid of Chantill Allen, who's been a thorn in my side since the day she rigged the phony racial upset at a Japanese restaurant. Restaurant. She's just a.

[Matthew]

She's not a good.

[Chris Reavers]

She's not a valuable contribution to the common good of the city of St. Paul.

[Joe Sushore]

What was the circumstance there? Didn't her party sit down at a dirty table or something like that?

[Chris Reavers]

No, they sat down at a table. Then a waitress came over and asked them if they'd move to another table because the waitress did think the table was too cluttered and she decided to make something of that and turned it into a racism.

[Joe Sushore]

The waitress or the server was trying to help.

[Chris Reavers]

The server was trying to get them a better table. And this.

[Joe Sushore]

Let me upgrade you to first class, sir.

[Chris Reavers]

I won't have it. This word I can't say. Then immediately got on Facebook and summoned her friends to join her to cause a disturbance at the restaurant. The police came, found there was no disturbance. It was just a pathetic example of. Of her willingness to cause trouble where there isn't any.

[Matthew]

Maybe the ray of hope or the silver lining is that some of these people will realize they can't make this stuff up. Like the lady that was the traffic gal that was upset that the cops took 12 minutes to get there when she was accosted or.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know that case. Yeah, you do. No, I don't. Well, I don't know what you're talking.

[Matthew]

She was anti cop, and then the cops took too long to come to her aid. And she wrote about that.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, I vaguely remember something like that.

[Joe Sushore]

I wanted to share with the group something I discovered I was looking up during the beginning of John's News. You were talking about the hotel, one of the hotels in downtown Minneapolis, the Canopy Hilton Hotel and the liquor license. And I was wondering in my mind, I kept asking myself, why don't they just pull up stakes and leave? Why are they wasting their time trying to run a business in Minneapolis? So I googled who owns the Canopy Hilton Hotel in Minneapolis, discovered it's Sherman Associates, based on Second and Park in downtown Minneapolis. And they own a ton of commercial buildings, apartments, hotels and other buildings in the Twin Cities, in Duluth and Iowa and all over. So the people that the city council is trying to harm are fellow Minneapolis. What do you call them? Minneapolis Minneapolitans.

[Matthew]

Those have done their research.

[Joe Sushore]

Well, like Joe says they don't care.

[Chris Reavers]

This is they don't care. They're the world they live in has nothing to do with the success of other people. Nothing. Even though the success of other people tends to be success for more and more people.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, I was just thinking, Joe, think of all the people that Sherman Associates hire and have under their payroll or on their payroll.

[Chris Reavers]

We got a nice note from Krista Livinggood in Western Maryland. Hail the Flashlight King. Hail you. It's a little better. I'm writing. Regards Regarding John's mention towards the end of the show yesterday of the In Pursuit site that features a deep dive into the presidents by other presidents. I am not certain that you'll recall, but in the box of gifts that I sent prior to Christmas, one of the wrapped items was a small square box with the label of American history retailers. Oh. Oh, Christa. You mean this one? Yeah, that I have on my desk right there. I made sure I got that one.

[Joe Sushore]

I'm surprised I didn't steal that one.

[Chris Reavers]

It's a day by day tear off calendar featuring historic events, for example. You want to know what today is? Yeah, sure. Today is what day? Fab 17 Feb 17. We should be right.

[Kenny Olson]

We invented the snowshoe right there.

[Chris Reavers]

He opens Feb.17, 1906. In a clash between labor unions and industrial interests, Idaho authorities and the Pinkerton Detective Agency arrested labor union leaders Bill Haywood, Charles Moyer and George Pettibone. They were charged with assassinating former Idaho governor Frank Steunenberg, who controversially, personally helped break the 1892 Coeur d' Alene labor strike with a bomb. That was February 17th. Right there. Krista. See this thing here? I love this thing.

[Kenny Olson]

If you watch this on YouTube, as.

[Chris Reavers]

I mentioned before, your podcast is the only one I listen to daily. Prior to finding gl, though I regularly listen to American history tellers. The narrator and host is Lindsey Graham. Not the political List. Each season focuses on specific events. For example, when you were discussing the idea of tribes a few weeks ago, I decided to go back and listen to season number eight, which was a deep dive into political parties. Episode number one dealt with the time frame prior to and heading up to the development of the party system. Episode two focused on the early 1800s and the 1840s and so on. Another season is about the Cold War and another is the California Gold Rush. And after watching Death by Lightning, the Netflix series about President Garfield, I went back and listened to the season about presidential assassinations, which provided more background and enlightenment. I know it's not for anyone but just in case one of you is even remotely near the level of history nerd that I am, I highly recommend a listen. Hope you have a splendid week. Krista from Maryland. Thank you. And there's your two top shows right there. GL and what's that called? American Storyteller.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, History tellers.

[Chris Reavers]

History tellers.

[John Haidt]

I just went and looked at their website. The current seasons about St. Valentine's Day Massacre. Three episodes.

[Chris Reavers]

Really?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Kenny, your Sherman associates. I went down the rabbit hole there. Not only are they environmentally conscious, they own two solar yards or gardens. Acreages of solar. And so these people, to rip their own people are shooting themselves in the foot.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, we've. I've tried to explain it the best I can.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, you have. But it's. It's just fun diving deeper and seeing.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, it would be. It would be so much more fun if it wasn't real.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, no kidding.

[Chris Reavers]

But for our own day in history, we turned to the traveling line. And it's only because these come to us all the way from Penguin Tasmania, Australia. And you can follow the [e-mail] it was on this day, February 17th in 1815, the Treaty of Ghent went into effect, formally formally ending the War of 1812. The treaty dictated the British must vacate posts located on US soil, including those in present day Minnesota. On this day, February 17th in 1881, Norman county was established. Although the name was believed to honor influential settler colonist Norman W. Kitson, it is now understood that Norwegian immigrants selected the name in remembrance of their homeland. On this day in 1921, Sister Carmela Hange, principal of Cathedral School in St. Paul and a member of the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet.

[Matthew]

Carondelet.

[Chris Reavers]

Carondelet founded the School Safety Patrol in Minnesota, which became an international model for parochial and public institutions.

[Kenny Olson]

Is that true?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes. I did not know that at first. A school police program for boys who served as guards, helping fall elementary school students across busy streets. Sister Carmela's enterprise inspired the organization of numerous programs that now include girl guards and bus patrols.

[Kenny Olson]

Who was one?

[Matthew]

I wasn't. I had siblings that were.

[Chris Reavers]

I was not, but I had a.

[Joe Sushore]

Motorcycle, so I didn't have to be a nerd like you two.

[Matthew]

If you were in school in the St. Paul School District in the mid-80s, 80s or early 80s, you were terrified of Lt. Wilter Winterhalter who couldn't catch.

[Joe Sushore]

Me on my dirt bike.

[Kenny Olson]

Matthew, my buddy Zach was a crossing.

[Chris Reavers]

Guard and I'm not done with this.

[Kenny Olson]

His dad would be going to work every time. And so he knew his dad was going to be running late. Yeah, he just stood there and held the.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, that's. That's a kid after my own heart. I like that. That's a kid after my own heart.

[Kenny Olson]

We got another kindergarten Gardner coming over. He's down the block, but he's on his way.

[Chris Reavers]

That's like my old man had a buddy at Mass and he would hold the basket on the old man until he coughed him up. Just stand there.

[Kenny Olson]

Feb. 17.

[Chris Reavers]

On this day, February 17th in 1972, the US Department of Justice filed a pollution suit against Reserve Mining Co. Which operated a taconite plant on Lake Superior and dumped tailings contaminated with asbestos like fibers into the lake. Lasting five years of proceedings would be the nation's longest and most expensive environmental legal battle to that date. On this day, February 17th, in 19. No Miles Lord. On this day, February 17th in 1998, the turtle racing cat capital, Turtle racing capital of the world got a shout out on the game show Jeopardy. When host Alex Trebek read the clue. Longville, Minnesota is the capital for racing these reptiles. I like turtles. Yeah.

[Joe Sushore]

Turtle racing.

[Chris Reavers]

The slowest compete for the grand slowpoke title. That's right. That's.

[Joe Sushore]

My mother in law lives there. As does retired Polaris racer Levi Lavallee.

[Kenny Olson]

Really?

[John Haidt]

Yep.

[Joe Sushore]

Longville is a wonderful little town.

[Chris Reavers]

Longville is where? Right up by St.

[Kenny Olson]

Cloud.

[Joe Sushore]

It's south and east of Walker.

[Chris Reavers]

South and east. So between Walker and. And Brainerd.

[Joe Sushore]

Yeah, kind of. But off to the east, if, if you ride a motorcycle, you're going to want to ride from Pine river to. To Longville. And I. I think it's 84, it's brand new. They just tarred it. And it is curvy and hilly and delightful.

[Matthew]

You mean they just laid asphalt?

[Joe Sushore]

Yes, sir.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay. On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history.

[Matthew]

Yeah, my father in law would be turning over.

[Joe Sushore]

That was. That was a gaffe. I apologize.

[Chris Reavers]

What day is this?

[Kenny Olson]

Fab 17, Joe.

[Chris Reavers]

On this day in 1993, Roger Staubach squired Norm Green around Dallas, showing him the sights really bad. And then the when. That's where we lost our club to.

[Kenny Olson]

Sure did.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. Thank you so much, G. Oh, yes.

[Matthew]

So not only did they steal our super bowl chances, they stole our hockey team.

[Kenny Olson]

That's right, because Drew Pearson pushed off.

[John Haidt]

You guys had plenty of super bowl chances. Settle down.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

Free.

[Kenny Olson]

Yep, he used the word free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation and he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy Josh, another crazy day out there on Marketplace. But I know how you're going to say this. We shouldn't overreact right now, should we?

[Josh Arnold]

Do not overreact. Do not overreact. Why keeping our asset allocation that I use for my for myself and for my keeping up to 30% in cash take advantage of the pullback normally happen in any given year. So you'll have 3 to 4, 5 to 10% market pullback any given year. And as we started this year actually as we said for the end of 2025 back to have more volat in the market than we had in 25. Why? Well I was expecting a potential government shutdown with continuing resolution not passed at the end of. Well, continuing resolution was mostly but you still have a partial government shut around the Department of Homeland Security. Second I had concerns about Trump tariff could pop up at time having an impact on the market and that too has has happened and could further cause extra volatility the year progress president to want to scrap UFEA the trade deal I'll say the free trade deal that he engineered in his first term between Canada and Mexico. Then we have Fed a new Fed chief coming in at the beginning of June but he has been nominated Kevin Warsh but has not confirmed so there's a little market sensitivity particularly bond market sensitivity around that choice and what's going on in the bond market could impact the stock though right now longer term bonds have come down in yield price a little bit and this and then of course the upcoming midterm election could definitely change the calculus in the House and the Senate that presents some other reason for volatility and last is using the presidential cycle that second year of a president's term usually has the lowest returns of any of the four years of the of the president President all of those are under the tit we shall see the meantime software stock entered a bear market we'll say at the end of 2025 and continued into 2026 shown by exchange traded fund IGV that those shares trade down the opponents of that of that index are sold off. Selling begets more more selling and or you know more chaos Till such times traders say oh stock market much too cheap and the worries that we had about software being totally replaced by artificial intelligence were a little bit overwrought. Now that's not say that software stock are going to go on a mega run but I think this is the time separate companies that benefit from artificial intelligence to those that just products that are say a clamp one to to come to to companies we'll say solutions or application micro Microsoft is not going to go out of business but maybe Salesforce continue to have have issue or took off on its dealings with OpenAI and Nvidia but has I'll say is down 50% from its high on concerns that they're spending or they're going to spend too much money but still is a concern But I don't believe that Oracle go out of out of business Palantir put that favorite category and category reported phenomenal and gu upward into the future. This stock sold off on fears that its product could be potentially replaced by Anthropic's Claude Yet Palantir utilized quad recently in the we'll just call it the extract a major drug dealer in Venezuela and did show its capability versus both Russian Chinese Cuban as defenses so Palantir unnecessarily sold off though the stock has always been very expensive price to sales and price to earnings base extremely volatile but I think it offers knockdown price you know potential for a significant move upwards. Then we've got companies like Google which which owns Gemini down Amazon with its AWS down Microsoft we've mentioned as well all down these companies aren't going out of business. Yes, they're spending money to meet demand for AI services. The concern is that are they spending too much money and will they get a return on investment? My answer at this point in time, yes, very much so. And with good earnings coming out, we'll say even from Amazon, good earnings, good sales, good increase in both advertising and in awareness. AWS and to me, you know, more of an upward bias in guidance. And the stock very much oversold and coming back to where it was even several years ago in price with a lot more sales and a lot more earnings, could be a good bargain. Amazon's not going out of business this week. Speaking of Amazon, earnings coming from a plethora of retailers including Walmart later this week and a very interesting earnings call to come up from another favorite of mine, Live Nation on Thursday. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see the state of live entertainment and maybe hear about the government's attacks on Ticketmaster.

[Kenny Olson]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. Money Talk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for the that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugar coated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks, Chris.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reavers]

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