2/27 The city of Champlin decides to continue to fly the old MN State flag

Summary

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Garage Logic Podcast

Episode: #1726 – The City of Champlin Decides to Continue to Fly the Old MN State Flag
Date: February 27, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray & Garage Logic Crew
Guest: Tim Hutner (Champlin City Councilman, Host of Hutcast Podcast)

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Overview

In this episode, Joe Soucheray and the Garage Logic crew dive into the city of Champlin's recent and controversial decision to continue flying the old Minnesota state flag, despite the introduction of a new flag design at the state level. The show features Champlin City Councilman and local “motorhead” Tim Hutner to discuss the decision, local civic dynamics, the feedback from residents, and broader issues of local governance and political climate in Minnesota.

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Featured Segment: Champlin’s Flag Controversy

[08:00 – 26:10]

Background & Guest Introduction

• Joe shares how he connected with Councilman Tim Hutner after Champlin voted 3-2 to keep the older MN state flag flying at city sites.
• Hutner is introduced as a councilman, car shop owner (Hutner Enterprises), and host of the “Hutcast” podcast, highlighting his motorhead credentials and community involvement.

"We just voted 3 to 2 to continue flying the old Minnesota state flag in place of the new one." – Joe [02:20]

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How the Flag Issue Unfolded

The Vote and Public Response

• The city council, at the behest of council member Jessica Tesdale, put flag usage on the agenda, letting the public and council weigh in.
• Strong reactions from within Champlin and residents in neighboring cities; significant email, social media, and viral attention (including Alpha News coverage).
• Hutner highlights overwhelming support for the old flag at his local Ward 3 roundtable.

"100% of this roundtable raised their hand and says, leave my flag alone. I want my flag, the original one." — Tim Hutner [11:35]

Procedural and Legal Aspects

• Champlin decided to keep the old flag at all city venues based on constituents’ wishes.
• State law does not require cities to fly the new flag; the decision rests with each municipality.
• The issue cannot be put to citywide ballot; it stays with the five-member council.

"From what I understand, Dave said that…this has to be a city council member. It can't even go on the ballot for something." — Tim Hutner [21:29]

Council Dynamics and Public Feedback

• The vote was 3-2 in favor of the old flag. Some tension, but the council maintains working relations.
• For every two complaints, there were about 22 supportive contacts in favor of the old flag, according to informal social media tracking.

"For every two nos, we had about 22 yeses." – Tim Hutner [22:21]

Notable Quote

"My only rebuttal to that is: we let 13 speak for four and a half million [at the state level]. So what's the difference, right?" — Tim Hutner [12:26]

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Who is Tim Hutner?

[12:54 – 17:14]

• Hutner details his background as a car guy, shop owner (with 19 bays), and tech/engineering specialist.
• Longstanding Champlin and Dayton resident; involved in city development (serves as EDA chair—Economic Development Authority).
• States he entered politics “by accident,” compelled by sense of duty and a strong “moral compass.”

"When I see stuff that doesn't make sense to me, and common sense ain't common enough…you got to involve yourself and say, enough of this weirdness." — Tim Hutner [17:18]

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Local Governance Challenges

[17:46 – 25:45]

Why He Ran for Office

• Hutner describes differences with former mayor and council members as motivating factors.
• Ran to represent Ward 3 after redistricting and to address local issues like clustering of cognitive care homes and resulting strain on municipal services.

The Cognitive Care Home Problem

• Seven state-mandated care homes in one small area lead to excessive service calls (650/year for ~28 residents).
• State policy ties city hands; working with state reps for change (notably, Rep. Danny Nadeau and Sen. John Hoffman).

Politics in Local Government

• Council tries to avoid partisan affiliations. Hutner emphasizes focus on discussion and problem-solving over ideology.

Potential Secession from Hennepin County

• Champlin and Dayton once discussed leaving Hennepin County over dissatisfaction with infrastructure spending and government priorities (peaked around the George Floyd era).
• The complexity of such a move and legal ramifications make it unlikely, but the sentiment reflects broader frustration with county and state politics.

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Memorable Moments & Humorous Exchanges

• Playful back-and-forth about finding Champlin and Dayton on a map, highlighting Joe’s notorious difficulty with metro geography.
  "Do you have a bracelet on that has your address and your wife's phone number on it?" — Kenny Olson [37:25]
• The hosts joke about the best way to tow a British car:
  "For a classic like that...everything that has to be special, it goes on the flatbed." — Tim Hutner [27:17]

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Reflections on Civic Engagement

[16:39 – 17:14]

• Joe and crew praise Hutner’s “GLer” (Garage Logic) common-sense approach and express hope for more practical citizens running for office.

"We're always suggesting on this show that more GLers need to enter politics." — Joe [16:39]

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Political & Community Notes

[38:05 – 42:33]

• Highlight on St. Paul’s Sweeney's Saloon offering free meals to bipartisan legislator pairs to encourage political dialogue.
• Discussion on federal vs. state authority in elections, reacting to reports about possible executive actions regarding election control. "The Constitution compels states to run voting, not the federal government." — Joe [41:59]

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Sidebar: Local Color & Lighthearted Banter

• Extended riffing about Minnesota geography, local landmarks, small town church steeples.
• Old-school jokes and stories about fish-eating Fridays, dough balls and sauerkraut, cheap fish sticks, and childhood food memories.
• The hosts reflect on the need for practical, working-class representation in councils, contrasting Champlin’s council with Minneapolis.

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Show Closer Highlights

[75:00+]

• Sports banter on the Twins’ pitching staff and rule changes in baseball.
• Reflection on the passing of “old-school” umpires and local sports lore.
• Sharing Minnesota historical quirks (e.g., Joseph Rollette hiding a bill to block the capital’s relocation—“funny episode of Minnesota’s history” [85:22]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments w/ Timestamps

• "100% of this roundtable raised their hand and says, leave my flag alone. I want my flag, the original one." — Tim Hutner [11:35]
• "I will not vote outside my Ward. If they say this, that's what I'm going to do." — Tim Hutner [11:37]
• "We let 13 speak for four and a half million. What's the difference?" — Tim Hutner [12:26]
• "If something doesn't make sense to me, and common sense ain't common enough...you got to involve yourself." — Tim Hutner [17:18]
• "For every two nos, we had about 22 yeses." — Tim Hutner [22:21]
• "Everything that has to be special, it goes on the flatbed." — Tim Hutner on towing British cars [27:17]
• "We're just a bunch of gomer grease monkeys, right?" — Tim Hutner [25:49]
• "If it sucks fuel and bleeds fire, we're good to go." — Tim Hutner [26:11]

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Key Timestamps

• 02:20 – Introduction of episode theme and Tim Hutner
• 08:00 – Tim Hutner joins, describes the flag vote origins
• 11:35 – Public feedback and roundtable results on the flag
• 15:10 – Hutner on local roots and city growth
• 16:39 – Garage Logic endorsement of “regular people” in politics
• 18:57 – Challenges with cognitive care home clusters
• 21:29 – Legalities of flag decision: up to council, not voters
• 22:21 – Public opinion breakdown: 22-to-2 support for old flag
• 24:03 – Discussion of secession ideas
• 27:17 – Towing advice for British cars
• 37:25 – Humor about Joe’s directional challenges
• 41:59 – The role of the states in running elections

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Takeaways

• Champlin’s decision to keep the old MN flag reflects strong local sentiment and the flexibility of municipal self-governance.
• Councilman Tim Hutner is portrayed as a practical, community-rooted “GLer” who grounds his decisions in constituent input—not ideology.
• The episode celebrates civic involvement by everyday people—and critiques big-city politics for losing touch with practicality.
• Garage Logic infuses local color, humor, and light-hearted debate alongside substantive civic issues, embodying its “common sense” ethos.

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Transcript

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

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[Kenny Olson]

How's that working out?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, so far it's not working out. We sent Hutner a link so he could join us on Zoom. Is that correct, Chris?

[Joe]

Yep.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And what do you think the problem is? Because the viewers are seeing now.

[Joe]

That's why I was saying maybe we should just wait a minute or two. But you're gonna make it work.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, got her. You said he has aol.

[Joe]

That doesn't matter. Just do the show. We'll get him on here in a minute, this guy.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, but I mean, is AOL slow to register or how does it work? God, aol. So we're ready to go. Tim. Tim. He has said he has 2 million listers on his podcast.

[Chris Reivers]

So I thought we advertise your store.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Really? So I thought this would be great.

[John Height]

Good one, Mark.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, he knows how to spin those numbers, doesn't he?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Right. Maybe. Maybe you should call him.

[Chris Reivers]

It's probably right there. He's in the garage.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Or you can't call him because his line's being used for the. The hookup. Right.

[Joe]

Remember how about 7 or 8 minutes ago I said, why don't we just. Maybe we should just give it a minute.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, but see, we have been giving it quite a few minutes, and if we went by your theory, we'd be sitting here one.

[Kenny Olson]

You could tell he's a g le because if you pop on his website, it's a family run business. Yeah, Tim, his wife Roxy, his son Norris and his other son Tyler.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And. And I want to ask him if he ever works any good cars, like, you know, British stuff like. Right, right. You're looking for an. Well, that was interesting. I don't know what the holdup is for him to be able to join us on Zoom.

[Chris Reivers]

He's probably frantically. His little fat fingers are trying to Access.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So let's just move on then, huh? You got other stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

We had an interesting conversation, Joe and John and I, before the show, before the Council joined us on trying to tell Joe where Dayton and Champlin were.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I cannot place Champlin, other than I do know that as I'm heading out west on 169 and then 169, bends to the north in Anoka. I do know that on that stretch, prior to I arrive at Anoka.

[Kenny Olson]

I think you're already lost. No, here's what you're gonna do. Here's what you're gonna do. Do you know how to get through the tunnel? Can you get on Westbound 94?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's not the way I go.

[Kenny Olson]

I need you to be on in your mind right now.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I can do that.

[Kenny Olson]

You're driving through the tunnel.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I can do that.

[Kenny Olson]

Now we're gonna skip ahead. You're just going around the Brooklyn center curve, where a lot of people back it down to about 50, but all the rest of us not. You're up to about 75.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Am I approaching Maple Grove at that?

[Kenny Olson]

So now you're up.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Correct.

[Kenny Olson]

You pass Brooklyn Boulevard 160. And here's 169. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang a right northbound 169. You cross over 81, which is now underneath. It runs underneath 169. Big new bridge there. Years ago, actually. Then you cross 610, the new 610, the cross town. It's a horrible stretch of free where that backs up every day. You're now entering the Champlain area.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay. All right, great. And then take me to Dayton. Keep talking.

[Kenny Olson]

You get right up. Now you notice. I said get. You get right up to the curve where you're about to cross the Mississippi. Don't do that. Hang a hard left and whatever that highway is, I could look it up, and I'm tad bit lazy. It's Friday, and then if you stay on that scenic road that follows the south side of the freeway, you're going to end up in Dayton, which, by the way, is a lovely area.

[John Height]

Take a left at the gas station with the dinosaur. That's the road Kenny's talking about.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, Sinclair.

[John Height]

Yep.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

All right, I have another question. Is Dayton west or east of 94? As I'm going up towards St.

[Kenny Olson]

Cloud, it would be north of 94.

[Joe]

Let's welcome in our guests.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Hey, here's Tim. Hi, Tim.

[Kenny Olson]

We're trying to figure out where the hell you live.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Tim, you're the. You're the podcast host of the Hutcast Yes, I am.

[Tim Hutner]

Can you hear me okay?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes. How often is the Hut cast on.

[Tim Hutner]

Oh, boy. That's a. That's a. That's kind of a trick question. Depends how much city stuff I'm working with. But we try to do two to three, sometimes four episodes a month. We've been doing it for about six, seven years, and we are in 120 countries, 45 million likes, followers and impressions. You know, that kind of thing.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We're number one in the. In, on. In Anguilla. So you won't be able to make that claim.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, you've got no shot, will it, Tim? None.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

But you texted me you thought it would be interesting if we get together and combine these two giant podcasts. You were part of a 3 to 2 vote to maintain flying the old flag in Champlin. Has that created a civic uproar of any kind?

[Tim Hutner]

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We've had a whole lot of people sending messages, emails. They're upset from other cities. We have other cities saying, hey, our citizens want the same thing. You. How did you do it? I mean, and literally we were in a reaction situation. We didn't pick this. One of our council members, Jessica Tesdale, says, you know, I want this back on the agenda. And recently we opened up our agenda so that everybody can have a speak. And once we opened that up, she says, I want to do this. I says, okay. I mean, the mayor says, this is what we're going to do. Going to do this. Well, everybody has a fair volume, a fair chance, a lot of emails, a lot of social media. We went viral twice on this deal. We got 2 million if you add them all together, views with this. Alpha News took it and ran with it. Liz is a great gal. Known her for years. And she just says, hey, we're doing this. And I says, I'm on it. What can I do?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, who was.

[Kenny Olson]

What were.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What were the objections like?

[Tim Hutner]

From who? There's so many.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, we better stay within Champlin. You had two council members who voted not to change the flag. Do you still get along with them? Is it a kind of a friendly place? It's not a big problem.

[Tim Hutner]

Well, not to change which flag. The ordinance was to fly the new flag. The old flag was still up at City hall in all the parks.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Tim Hutner]

Jessica Tesdale says, hey, we should.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We should.

[Tim Hutner]

We want the. We want our people to have the new Minnesota flag. And that's where all the sparks started.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So what ultimately was decided?

[Tim Hutner]

I had a roundtable like a week before, and I work for Ward 3. And I am absolutely. I work for them. And the roundtable, the conversation came up and says, hey, we want to talk about the flag. And I went, okay, here we go. You know, this is what we're going to do. And I said, okay, let's just do this real quick. Let's do a show of hands. Who wants the Minnesota flag from 1983, the original one, or who wants the new version? And I will cast no aspersions here. If somebody wants to do the new one, we won't pass judgment again. I work for the people. And 100% of this roundtable raised their hand and says, leave my flag alone. I want my flag, the original one. And I went, I copy you loud and clear.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yep.

[Tim Hutner]

And we're. I will vote. I will not vote outside my. My ward. If they say they do this, then that's what I'm going to do.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So that. That's how you got the 3 to 2 vote. And the old flag prevails.

[Tim Hutner]

It does prevail.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Does it prevail? Is it. Is it flying now at City Hall?

[Tim Hutner]

Yes, it is. Every park, every venue, everywhere throughout the whole city. It's the one that people wanted. I mean, if the process had been a little more transparent, we had the trifecta doing its job. We had no say in the matter. And here's what I get. I get people say, you let three of you choose for the rest of us. And my only rebuttal to that is, we let 13 speak for four and a half million.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Mm.

[Tim Hutner]

So what's the difference, right? No, I don't know. I mean, everybody's got their feelings on it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

No, we're on. We're on the same side here. I prefer the old flag. And if I ever had a vote, well, Garagelogic, it's never even come up. We just fly the traditional old Minnesota flag alongside the GL flag. Are we talking to you now from your car shop?

[Tim Hutner]

We are talking at my facility, yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And it's called Hutner Enterprises. And you are. You're a car guy. You're a motorhead.

[Tim Hutner]

I'm as motor as it gets, yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Do you ever work in any neat car?

[Tim Hutner]

I sent you a video.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, I did get it. I saw it. Yeah. Do you ever work at any neat cars like MGs and Triumphs? The good stuff, British stuff.

[Tim Hutner]

One of my friends over at Maple Grove City Council, his dad is a big MG guy.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Hutner]

And we've had constant conversations, and I. And yes, we worked on everything from a standard car to a million dollar plus. Moline tractor to a Dragster to a normal Nissan Sentra to a Cadillac. It doesn't matter what is. We got 19 stalls.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And what is your niche in the car world? What are you known for?

[Tim Hutner]

High tech.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay.

[Tim Hutner]

If someone can't build it, we're the engineering firm.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay.

[Tim Hutner]

Do you wear a lot of engineering?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Do you build engines?

[Tim Hutner]

Absolutely.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Really? How long have you been in the car?

[Tim Hutner]

Everything from. Oh, boy.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Let's see here.

[Tim Hutner]

I graduated high school in 1985. I was on a farm, currently releasing a book about the life of strategy. It is. You're on a farm, you do what you got to do. You build tractors, you're building. You're building bottom row plows, you're doing skirts. I mean, it's. You do what you do. I mean, it's. It's the farm life.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay.

[Tim Hutner]

So I guess I was so 80, 80 when I. We were driving tractor when we were 7, 8, and we went to general owner school training. I went to Kansas State University, blah, blah, blah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

40 years ago. Was. Were you raised in Champlin?

[Tim Hutner]

I was raised in kind of Anoka and St Francis, and even as recently

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

as 40 years ago, it was relatively undeveloped. Would you say

[Tim Hutner]

chaplain wise?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah. I don't know. I'm asking.

[Kenny Olson]

He's never been there.

[Tim Hutner]

Okay. Champlin has been built out for quite a while. Yeah, I moved in. I moved in Champlain when I was 19, and I just got out of high school. I bought a house here, and then I just kind of worked from there. My shop is in Dayton, Minnesota, that I started probably 10 years after I moved into Champlin. We're 97% built out in Champlin, but Dayton, we're only about 22% built out. And I serve an EDA in this city as well. So I serve two cities probably for the first time since, what, 1803. Some guy in Oklahoma who had served two cities consecutively. And I do that as well. I'm the EDA chair of the city.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What is eda? What is ed? I'm sorry, what does EDA mean?

[Tim Hutner]

EDA is called Economic Development Authority. We're the guys that do land. We make sure that the city is making its, you know, growth, proper growth and structure. But do you want business, basically business?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Do you want Dayton to grow?

[Tim Hutner]

Well, I don't know if that's up to me. I'm just the guy trying to make sure it's. We got a group of seven guys, great team, and they're all business people. So we steer. We steer businesses, we do conversations, we're it's kind of a thing. I mean, it's pretty neat. You sound like, did I throw more at you, Joe, than you wanted?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

No, you sound like a GL er. And we're always suggesting on this show that more GL ers need to enter politics. So there's a fighting chance that you are typical of the guy. We're looking for somebody who. I take it you had no desire to become a career politician. Is that a safe statement?

[Tim Hutner]

I think it picked me. I didn't pick it. Yeah, but I have this problem with the moral compass, and the compass is very, very strong.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Explain. Help us understand that.

[Tim Hutner]

I've seen a lot of not rights. I've seen a lot of wrongs. I've seen a lot of sideways. And I was brought up on a different set of rules. When I see stuff that doesn't make sense to me, and common sense ain't common enough. I post that on my podcast all the time that you got to involve yourself and say, enough of this weirdness. And, hey, everybody's got their opinion. As long as going to stick to your opinion, why not? Why not do it, but don't enforce your opinion upon me.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Was there any particular thing happening in Champlin that inspired you to run for the first time?

[Tim Hutner]

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. The first time I ran in 16, I ran against Mayor Karasic. Mayor Karasic is a guy who is a nice guy, but there was things that was like, okay, I could probably. I could probably assist this team some. And then when you get to the point where, you know, we're kind of on a, you know, different wavelengths sometimes, and it worked out to where I couldn't do it. And then I ran an 18 against my Ward 1 at the time, which was Jessica Tesdale. Now the redistricting has created different areas. Now I'm in a Ward 3. We have some stuff that's got to be fixed in Ward 3, crazily stuff. And the previous councilman decided he was going to move on, and I went, okay, I understand. And then I put my hat in the ring, and here we are.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What's an example of some crazy stuff that has to be fixed?

[Tim Hutner]

Boy, here's the. Here's the. Here's the skinny on this. State of Minnesota has locked up every city about cognitive care homes. We have an area in our city that has a lot of problems. And if we were to have seven homes in this area and these people need help, I get that. And we're trying to help them. But when the state tied our hands, it created an issue. We have a lot of city services going in that area and there's a lot of things that just need to be addressed. Danny Nadeau, at the state level, he's working at it. At the house level, John Hoffman, he's working on it. We have, we're this, we're tied. We cannot, we cannot go in there and say, hey, you know, look, you can't call us every time someone doesn't want to do something or whatever it is, whatever the home caregivers are doing. We have seven homes in the area. There's four tenants per home. If you were to. If I was to ask you, Joe, if we have that many people in an area and city of service called because they won't take their meds or there's a medical or there's a. How many calls in a year makes sense to you? In 7 times 4 is 28 people. What would you say would be a logical call?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Ten calls a year?

[Tim Hutner]

How does almost 650 ring your bell?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's too many. That's 642.

[Tim Hutner]

Well, we're trying to handle this at the state level. We have got everything we can possibly do. Matter of fact, I was just going through some preliminary law changes from that Danny to know made up and I hope he gets some traction on it because it is some next level stuff.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Are there any need to be able

[Tim Hutner]

to protect our citizens?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Are there any democratic socialists on the city council?

[Tim Hutner]

You know, I don't know if I can answer that. I don't know their political affiliation. We try to keep politics out of it. We're a group of five. I respect the five. Everybody's got their opinion and we work with that. That is my box. And we try to say, okay, what is your opinion? What is your point? We all have great conversations, but the flag thing kind of spun them around. Everybody had a different opinion and of course we prevailed. We being us, the other side.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Is there any danger that the state could order you to fly the new flag?

[Tim Hutner]

From what I've been aware of, our attorney says that it is up to the municipality to create that event. It is not a state thing. They can do it in state buildings, they can do it in whatever they control. But from what I understand, Dave said that. Dave's our attorney. This has to be a city council member. It can't even go on the ballot for something. So it would have to be some kind of a special thing. And we asked him, he says, can we put this in front of the people? And the attorney says, we cannot Put this in front of the people. You five have to deal with this.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I would imagine Champlin might be just far enough away from the tallest buildings that you're not going to get a lot of people demanding a return to the old flag. I mean, the new flag. The new flag.

[Tim Hutner]

Well, let's say for every two nos, we had about 22 yeses.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay.

[Tim Hutner]

And that's just doing informal watching, social media saying, okay, guys, you know, what are we seeing? You get the loud squeakers. You get the loud squeakers on both sides.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Tim Hutner]

But this was never a flag issue. This was a policy issue designed by 12 or 13 that made the choice for us.

[John Height]

Right.

[Tim Hutner]

And the two that squeak are saying, well, you made the choice for us. I said, well, because it was made for us, we didn't have that choice. It didn't go through policy, it didn't go through state, it didn't go through the house. They all sudden go, bam, here you go. And that's the problem that we had. Like everything else, the city has to mop up what the state's doing and we have to handle it at our level. Just like the ice thing. Just like all this stuff. I mean, Mayor Fry's involved. This is a federal thing. What's going on? Why are we involved?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You obviously are paying attention to politics. You're a politician. When you look at the, the way Minneapolis is being run by that city council and mayor, do you have a lot of thoughts about that or do you just leave it alone and worry about your own backyard?

[Tim Hutner]

Well, I do worry about my backyard, but see, what happens downtown happens in our city as well. And there's political fallout everywhere you go, no matter who you are, what city. Everybody's dealing with the same stuff. The question is, is that the stuff they want to be dealing with? Is that what you want your legacy to know?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Is this.

[Tim Hutner]

You're going to say, hey, we turned on this flag that everybody don't want or somebody does want. It's a tough discussion. That's a seven part series.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Joe, did Champlin entertain secession from Hennepin County?

[Tim Hutner]

Absolutely.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Did you come close to it or is it still a live topic?

[Tim Hutner]

Well, I think that would be more of a question for the mayor to answer. And he's on another call. So Mayor Sebas and we had conversations in Dayton as well about that same situation. Now, what the problem was, this is George Floyd time. We had everybody building gold coffins. We had everybody crying over the coffin. We had all this stuff that was going on and our roads are in Need. Our county roads are a problem. Our. We have some infrastructure need to be done. We need some funding. Luckily, we had some good local representation to go down and say, you know, you know kung fu, let's get this stuff happening. But in the meantime, we didn't. We're fighting to try and get what we've been paying into back on our streets instead of gold coffins and in the circles and this, that, the other. I mean, okay, I get it, you're doing it, but somewhere there's got to be some payback for us paying into this. Hence the succession conversation. We could go as chaplain. And again, I'm not speaking for the council and I'm not speaking for the city. This is a personal thing. We could go to Anoka county and Dayton could go to Anoka, or it could go to Wright County. In Dayton, we have two counties we're a part of because of our geographic location. So there's a lot of options here. The question is, what does that look like? How does that look like in an attorney firm? How does the city handle that? How does legal handle that?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I think it's fascinating.

[Tim Hutner]

Well, we're just a bunch of gomer grief grease monkeys, right?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah. Well, that's. Why don't we let you go and continue this some other day when something comes up that requires us to get you back on the zoom.

[Tim Hutner]

Well, if that's an invitation, you call my phone anytime. You have my number.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Tim Hutner]

And if you want to talk about cars, hot rods, motorcycles, we don't care what it is. If it sucks fuel and bleeds fire, we're good to go.

[Chris Reivers]

It really does make me happy that you are working from the garage, because if you would have said, I'm working from my house and you have your name tag on, I would think it was really weird.

[Kenny Olson]

Just so we know, I do have one auto related question, Tim, if you don't mind.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

This is Kenny talking.

[Tim Hutner]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

And it's. It's a question about advice. What is your advice to people that own British cars? Should they call a bumper tow tow truck or a flatbed tow truck? What. What is the best option there for British car owners?

[Tim Hutner]

Well, I'm kind of an American guy. I'm pro American. I mean, I'll buy the crappiest US Made product before I buy a foreign car, but for. For a classic like that. Yeah, we have. We also are a towing company, and I instruct my staff to go out and everything is. Yeah, I got a lot of companies, Joe.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay.

[Tim Hutner]

I instruct my staff to. To Anytime there's something that has to be special, it goes on the flatbed.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay, so I've for sure he's a flatbed.

[John Height]

One more.

[Kenny Olson]

And I guess this would be a comment I would. I would advise what my ancestors used to do with their garbage equipment. Maybe you could back up to a frozen lake and just put that thing on a frozen lake and in the spring it disappears. You'll never see that British car again.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I'm being disparaged here.

[Tim Hutner]

I ain't touching that one.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, I wouldn't either.

[Tim Hutner]

I ain't touching that one.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Tim Huttoner.

[Tim Hutner]

But no, when we start building.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, go ahead, Go ahead. How can people find your podcast? It's called hutcast.

[Tim Hutner]

It is. And it is not subsequent to branding for any city in which I serve those people. It is merely conversations. And I've had a lot of great conversations on my show. I've had people that met Hitler on my show.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Holy mackerel.

[Tim Hutner]

And those are conversations that are incredible. I've had ags on my show. I've had. It's just we have a good time. I mean, it's not. It's just about having a conversation, kind of like we're having here. Tell me what you know, tell me what I can learn. And boy, I'll tell you what. I've had some really, really excellent conversations throughout the country, throughout the world.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, when we look up your podcast, are those listed? We could pick one and listen to it.

[Tim Hutner]

Yeah, you bet.

[Pat]

All right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Thank you.

[Chris Reivers]

As a butt kissing. Just as a butt kissing producer, I do want to match you on. We have had someone on our show that met Hitler as well. Louis Zamperini.

[Tim Hutner]

Is that right?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes. He met him when we were.

[Tim Hutner]

We had to name ours Mrs. M. We couldn't name her by name because her family is still in that regime over there and she didn't want no fallout. So it was kind of a thing. And I tell you what, we sit here and we go, it's our show. We want to get to the bottom things. We learn things. But it hurt. It hurt me here to listen to what she had to say. And I'm thinking, is this worth the ratings? Because she was in her 90s and it felt so hard to listen to what she went through as a 10 year old that I thought to myself, I'm not gonna do another show because this hurt so bad. And I just. I had to get through that. I had to talk to her. It was kind of a thing.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I'm gonna look it up. Tim, let's Stay in touch. And thank you very much, gentlemen.

[Tim Hutner]

Thank you. Very nice to meet you. Kenny. John Reivers, rookie. Sorry about the delay coming in and my phone was acting weird. But you know what? I appre. Appreciate this. When does this go live?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Right, Right.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, we are live.

[Joe]

We're live on YouTube right now, but the show should be posted around 2:00 this afternoon.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Tim Hutner]

Okay. Well, thank you again. And by any means, if you want to call, I'm always here to cast an opinion.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

All right. Thanks, Tim. All right, Tim Hutton, Ward 3, Champlain, Minnesota.

[Joe]

Let's talk about one of our friends, should we Hofferman Water and Connecticut.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You know, did you hear him say the name John Hoffman?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

John Hoffman is from Champlin, right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Go ahead, Chris.

[John Height]

Okay.

[Joe]

Hofferman Water and Kinetico here to take care of all of your home treatment water needs. And you know what? Your first step has to be getting on that schedule and having them come out for that free water analysis. You do that by dialing 612-895-2440 or book your appointment online at hoffermanwater.com either way, you can get on that schedule and have them come up for that free water analysis. And you know what? But it's going to make an amazing difference in the quality of your water. I started out as a customer. Did you have another question?

[Kenny Olson]

No.

[Joe]

Okay. I started out as a customer of Hopperman Water in Connecticut. And you know what? It's made an amazing difference in the quality of my water. They'll do the same for you, but you got to get on that schedule. 612-895-2440 or visit hoffermanwater.com and that's because Hofferman Water has been proudly serving the state of Minnesota for over 50 years. Do me a favor and mention that you heard about them on the garagelogic podc.

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[Tim Hutner]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

It sounds to me like Hutner would be a GL City Council rep. Sure, yeah. You know What I mean. I mean, do you think. I mean, he. He has a. Among his holdings, apparently is. Is a car repair place. Yeah, well, compare that to anybody on the Minneapolis City Council. In other words, he has a job and he pays people and he's dealing with fossil fuels, which don't panic him. And they got the. They're flying the old state flag.

[Kenny Olson]

I think, Joe, you find people like what you find on the Champlin City Council. Like you always say, the further you

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

get away from that is even that far away.

[Kenny Olson]

Right. You can see them from up there.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, you can see the tall buildings

[Kenny Olson]

from Champlain just far enough where you have real people with real jobs that also work on the council.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Are you telling me Dayton is east of 94? As 94 is going north.

[Kenny Olson]

Jesus. 94 goes northwest.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah. Up towards St.

[Kenny Olson]

Cloud. You're coming up to. You're going to St. Cloud. You haven't got to Rogers yet. There, out your right, your passenger, the drinker side window.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

You'll see Dayton. You'll see. They actually have a new exit parkway.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, let me tell you something.

[Kenny Olson]

It's on the north side of 94. Why are you so confused looking? 94 goes southeast, Joe. It doesn't go north, it doesn't go east, west. It goes northwest.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay, if I'm southbound on 169 from Elk river going to Anoka, let's say.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, then you're on a combined route of 169 and Highway 10.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I know that.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay. I just want to make.

[Joe]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

I just want to make sure.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

The observation I wanted to have was that Dayton at that point is going to be west of me. That's correct.

[John Height]

Okay, but.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

But you got south and west, south

[Kenny Olson]

side of the river.

[John Height]

Yeah, you have to go past Anoka and the river to go west.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What is that white church steeple I see off in the distance to my west when I'm driving south towards Anoka? Serious question. That's the little village of Dayton in there.

[Kenny Olson]

No, Dayton's on the south side of the river.

[Joe]

You guys know we're on, right? We're recording.

[Chris Reivers]

You should have impressed him, though.

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[Chris Reivers]

we had a guest. We had the Champlin Park Rebels conditioning coach for football on our program at one time.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We did.

[Kenny Olson]

You are losing back points here with this conversation.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I don't think I am at all. I really get you 10. There's a white steepled church in Dayton.

[Kenny Olson]

Do you have a bracelet on that has your address and your wife's phone number on it? If lost, return.

[Joe]

You know One of the things I learned was, here's the church, here's the steeple. Look inside, and there's the people.

[Chris Reivers]

You got all the people from Dayton.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

A little item in the St. Paul paper caught my eye this morning, and I cut it out.

[Chris Reivers]

That church is Emmanuel Lutheran, by the way.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Is it in Dayton?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

See? Then I'm right.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You are lying to me. No idea.

[Chris Reivers]

I couldn't think of any Lutheran names either, except Emmanuel Lutheran.

[John Height]

I. Oh, God.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We're always saying on this show we need people have to figure out how to help solve the political crisis we face in Minnesota. Hutner might be a guy that would be useful in solving the political crisis we have. And this caught my eye. There's the, you know, Sweeney Saloon.

[John Height]

Saloon.

[Chris Reivers]

Very familiar. The saloon on Dale.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

It's on Dale between Summit and Selby.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Just a couple blocks. Two or three blocks south of Selby. Correct. On Dale Street. It's a neat old institution. It's a neat old saloon. And the owner is a guy named Will Rolfe. I don't know him. He's only owned it for a year. So Sweeney's just changed hands? Apparently. But he's got a deal where if politicians come in, Republicans and Democrats, and dine together, he'll provide their meal for free. He wants to get them to start talking. I think it's a great idea. I love that. It says, Sweeney saloon owner Will Rolfe is hoping to extend camaraderie to the political sphere in St. Paul by offering a free meal to any Democrat and Republican pair or group that come in together. Beginning now and running through the end of the legislative session, Sweeney's will offer its Poor Man Special and a beer or soda on the House to any table consisting of politicians on both sides of the aisle.

[Chris Reivers]

I love that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I think that's a great idea.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

These guys used to dine and get hammered together all the time.

[Chris Reivers]

All the time.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

It'd be at the Criterion or the Lexington or whatever, but. And I'm not suggesting he's saying that come in and get hammered together. He's saying, come in and talk. We'll give you the meal and throw in a beer or a soda. In a news release, Rolf said the idea grew out of the same question many Minnesotans are asking, what can I do from where I sit to help lower the temperature? Neighborhood bars have always been the place where people come to connect. You don't have to think alike to sit at the same table. You just have to show up and be willing to talk like neighbors. He said, I can't fix politics, but I can provide the bread for people to break together. If two legislators want to take an hour to talk face to face instead of through press releases, I'm happy to buy them a meal. That's fantastic. It looks like it really is.

[Chris Reivers]

Will Rolfe has a Williams Property Management, so he is involved in rental selections in St. Paul.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Not to mention that he's in business in St. Paul, which is very difficult to be. Right, right. So I just wanted to give that guy a shout out.

[Chris Reivers]

Got it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I don't even know who he is.

[Chris Reivers]

Providing affordable apartments and single family rentals in St. Paul.

[Kenny Olson]

Do we talk politics in the bar, the pub there, in Garage Lodging?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

It comes up. But nobody's arguing, nobody's fighting.

[Chris Reivers]

They're just trying to tell everybody they're wrong.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Ye, we don't, we don't argue. We just explain why you're wrong. If you happen to wander in from Euphoria or Liberal Lakes or Diversityville.

[Chris Reivers]

Whatever happened to Kitchen Table Town?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's a good one. Kitchen Table Town. This can't happen. I'm sure it's a trial balloon, but it's. Washington Post is reporting that Trump activists say they are in coordination with the White house circulating a 17 page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting. No, no, this can't happen. This can't happen. This is not the way this country works.

[Tim Hutner]

Right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

The Constitution compels states to run voting, not the federal government.

[Kenny Olson]

What would have to happen in order to make that happen?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, God knows what he would. The better way to phrase it would

[Kenny Olson]

be no, I mean with the Senate and the House and the legislator, I mean there's got to be some voting involved.

[Tim Hutner]

Right.

[John Height]

It would have to go to the courts right away, wouldn't it?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, this can't happen.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, I know that, but I'm wonderingly.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Shouldn't happen.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm not arguing with that. I'm trying to have a conversation about how this would actually play out.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, he would have to engineer, and I mean him specifically because this is his baby. He would have to engineer some unforeseen national catastrophe slash emergency. That what would compel the courts to say, yeah, you're right, the feds better run the election because we can't risk this chaos on the streets.

[John Height]

According to the paper, the 17 page paper.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[John Height]

They already are suggesting the folks that wrote it for him to use the 2020 election as an example.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Even though there's no evidence that he won that election, if that's what they're

[Kenny Olson]

going to base it on. That seems really weak.

[John Height]

Yeah, well, and if that happened, then I would assume he signs an executive action and at that point it's challenged immediately and goes to some court and then eventually the Supreme Court.

[Kenny Olson]

And that just controls the voting apparatus. Right, the process.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, he would.

[Kenny Olson]

Because in my mind, I'm comparing it, Joe, to how did FDR stick around? And would these two even be comparable?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

They're not comparable.

[Joe]

All right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

FDR was intelligent.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I mean, once again, I mean, the process.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, what I read was what if. If Trump pulled this off and he obscenely should not, I suppose he would declare what? No mail in ballots. Correct. Voter id, which I have to be in favor of.

[Kenny Olson]

So far, so good.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And a host of other things that would. What, this.

[John Height]

Let's.

[Kenny Olson]

How about this?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We've been discussing this.

[Josh Arnold]

The one.

[Kenny Olson]

I would love him.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Trump would use this to maintain his own power. There's no. There's no. Trump is not virtuous or altruistic. He would engineer this in order to have Republicans win all the midnight terms.

[Kenny Olson]

That's about what I was going to say. He. There should be no mail in, Joe. There should. You should have an. A driver's license and id

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

and.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a second. And Democrats are not allowed to vote.

[John Height]

Number two. Number three. Okay, never mind. Since you put it that way, I understand.

[Kenny Olson]

I was going somewhere.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

This means. I apologize.

[Kenny Olson]

I know. I'm just not. I'm just not willing to get bent out of shape about it, that's all.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

If there's anything to get bent out of shape about, this would be it.

[John Height]

Yeah, this.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I would get more bent out of shape about this than any other prank he's come up with. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

It's Friday.

[Joe]

What about the twin starting staff? I'm more bent out of shape about that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's the problem with this country.

[Kenny Olson]

You're right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

More people are bent out of shape about that.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm more like, I can't eat meat on Friday. What's going on?

[Joe]

Who are you kidding?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I've had this discussion with you before. Let me tell you something.

[John Height]

Ricky, let me tell you something.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Can I ask you a question?

[Joe]

They all owned a fish shop back in the Golden Pack.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Popes had brothers in the fishing business. This was a scam to get people to buy fish. Let me tell you something else.

[Kenny Olson]

I know you're going to the front of the room with that joke Saturday.

[Chris Reivers]

I know what you're going to give me.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What am I?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know what you're going to say, but I know what you're going to give me.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What?

[Chris Reivers]

As a mayoral by mayoral decree special dispensation.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Not only that, but do you think it's a sacrifice for me to have some scallop pasta dish?

[Kenny Olson]

No, Joe.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Are you kidding me? The sacrifice for me would be to have. To have a hot dog.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

I think you should go to the front of the room when you go to church on Saturday evening, make this announcement during the massive anticipation. I got something.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Hey, let me tell you people, preacher man, if the idea is sacrifice, throw me in the briar patch and make me eat sea bass.

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[Chris Reivers]

We got people coming over tonight and they're talking about a bean and cheese burrito. Burrito for dinner.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, that's what you should have. That's a sacrifice. That is a sacrifice. It's not a sacrifice to have scallops. I think we're having scallops today. We're having a weenie thing and a little sauce.

[Joe]

You're having a family gathering, and the. The meal is the cheese and bean burrito.

[Chris Reivers]

That's what the girl.

[Joe]

Good luck to your plumbing.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, that's what the girls were.

[John Height]

I don't know how to tell you guys this, but I love bean and cheese burritos.

[Chris Reivers]

And you're falling away, aren't you?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Checks out every Friday night when I was a kid. See, this used to be all year long, no meat on Fridays.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Oh, yeah, it did. Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Changing religion.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I know.

[Joe]

I like fish.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I love the Jews.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what it's going to take to change religion.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We had to eat the cheapest fish stick she could find at the grocery store.

[Kenny Olson]

Mac and cheese.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

It was the crap they swept up off the fish floor.

[Joe]

So basically the box of stuff rookie brought to the Sprint store.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes.

[Chris Reivers]

Fresh out of the Gulf dollar store.

[John Height]

I'm almost as old as Joe, and he's correct. It was every Friday.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Every Friday.

[John Height]

I loved it because as a German Russian, my grandmother would make dough dishes loved. So I look forward.

[Chris Reivers]

Cheated.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey, there's nothing better than fish sticks and Mac and cheese. Come on.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, Kenny, there is maybe SpaghettiOs.

[Joe]

What's that dough dish? Is that just dumplings?

[John Height]

It's like you take. You make dough. Let's say you take little dough balls about this big, like, you know, and you fry it with sauerkraut. That's krautnip.

[Joe]

Okay.

[John Height]

Or you make casenip, which is basically A cheese button. Or you take shoop noodle, which is long dough. Things like, look like French fries. Mix them with potatoes, fry them up in lard, of course.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

That ain't no sacrifice, John.

[John Height]

So good.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I don't know what could snap people out of their Trump trance, but if this doesn't do it, I don't know what will happen would.

[John Height]

It won't.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

How could it not that this is. It's beyond dictatorial. It's. It's outrage. It's an obscene violation of everything this country stands for.

[Josh Arnold]

Everything.

[John Height]

Did you just move here, Joe? And you're wondering about this?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Jeez. No, I'm not just wondering about.

[Tim Hutner]

No.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

This is pathetic.

[Kenny Olson]

I. Yeah, I know, but, you know, it's Friday and I get to sleep, you know, tomorrow, before we stay up tonight.

[Joe]

I'm glad you mentioned that, Ken, because.

[Kenny Olson]

Do some afternoon drinking here when you're done.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Let's go.

[Joe]

But one second, though. Thank you, Matthew, for sending this to me. There is more background on Rolf. Yeah, you were mentioning him. Apparently he had. He was a musician prior to running for office.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Little Benny had a cat that they wouldn't let him keep. What the hell are you doing? At a price he thought was cheap.

[Kenny Olson]

He's one of the greatest Muppet museums of all time.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You ask him for advice, he said, leave the kitty here.

[Kenny Olson]

Is the show over?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Can I go now? I want John Heights News.

[John Height]

Okay. Holy snakey.

[Joe]

But first we have to talk about North American Banking Company.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I don't know why you played that. Because it didn't work.

[Chris Reivers]

Ralph the dog.

[John Height]

Rolf.

[Joe]

Oh, Little Benny had the cat.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

See, I don't know how many people would have instantly connected that.

[Chris Reivers]

I got it right there. You got one hand up.

[Joe]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

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[Pat]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

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[Pat]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

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[Pat]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Great talk, not sugar coated advice. Give Josh a call now at 952-925-5608 and book your no cost, no obligation 48 minute consultation 952-925-5608. You'll be glad that you did meet with Josh and tell him that Ricey sent you.

[Kenny Olson]

You cannot stop him.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

He'll just make a move.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe Sum money for the sports show. Visit Northwest Sports Show.com what am I talking about? I'm talking about the biggest sports show around the Northwest Sports show. Presented by furniture and things. Coming next weekend actually starting Thursday, March 5, running through the weekend. It's the largest annual outdoor show. Indoor everything. Fishing, boating, hunting, camping, all outdoor adventures. And you could see it all. It's massive. 600 plus exhibitors. Acres of gear, gadgets, new products, boats, RVs, marine electronics, of course, tackle, hunting equipment. A lot of wonderful seminars too. You want to learn how to catch a walleye without speed trolling. Well, this is the place to do it. Must special species. Yeah, you find all those seminars there. Plus There's a fishing 101 area. There's places for kids to hang out. It's absolutely the massive and it is the best place to plan your upcoming season. You can compare things right across the aisle. That's the way to do it. Buy your tickets early, get them online. Visit Northwest Sports Show.com Would my brother's

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

kids be my nephews?

[Kenny Olson]

Jesus.

[Joe]

Or unless they were female, then that would be your niece.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, I. One of my brother's kids caught a muskie.

[John Height]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, big one too. Here's John Height in the newsroom.

[John Height]

Anything else to that story?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Just a little story.

[Kenny Olson]

Anyway, back to the Muppets.

[John Height]

The news is brought to you by the North American Banking Company Minnesota as we speak right now, this very time, as we are recording this right now, the budget forecast for Minnesota is being released. It shows a surplus for the next year, but a deficit after that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, then why don't they save the surplus? Husband carefully and then you won't have a deficit next time.

[John Height]

Far too sensible, Joe.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Sorry.

[John Height]

Based on December's numbers, Minnesota is expected to have about a two and a half billion dollar surplus for 2627. But state officials also said a major deficit of around 3 billion was expected for 2829. Now, wouldn't that make up basically for the.

[Chris Reivers]

You're going to put that 2 bill in a drawer for next year.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Put it in the bank. Don't touch it.

[John Height]

Fraud continues to be the dominating topic when it comes to Minnesota's finances.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, it should be. Oh boy, oh boy.

[John Height]

Fraud isn't accounted for the budget outlook numbers. Governor Walz said in December a better effort should be made to quantify the amount of money the state has lost to fraud.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's plenty, Tim. Don't worry.

[Joe]

John. Can I please, Can I, Can I, can I, can I, can I please play Tim Walls?

[John Height]

I don't care.

[Joe]

I. Joe, I don't want to do this to you on a Friday. I really, truly don't. But the governor, your governor, Tim Walls had some thoughts when it was we discovered that that Medicaid funding was going to be withheld federally. Are you ready?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Are you ready?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah. I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

[John Height]

And I will continue to say this.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You can trust me on this. The person who's angriest about this fraud is me. There is certainly no political upside to having fraud in your state. And it undermines the very program that I can't take this. Stop it. Stop it.

[Joe]

No one's angry that him.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

No one will be more successful in gaslighting you that this is Trump's fault than Tim Walsh.

[John Height]

Yep. The U.S. department of justice has dropped an investigation into a policy from the Hennepin County Attorney's office and according to a spokesperson for the hcao. Now, of course, there's some discrepancy between the two folks involved here about why this all happened. The investigation, remember, was announced back in May of 2025. We talked about it centered on a policy asking prosecutors to consider racial identity during prosecutorial decision making. Assistant Attorney General for the U. S. Harmeet Dillon posted on X yesterday that the DOJ had dropped the investigation only after the HCO altered its policy to remove language about race based considerations. However, Hennepin county said that's not the way it happened. They said the DOJ just dropped the investigation, saying the federal government caved into the office's policy, calling the whole investigation investigation a stunt. Daniel Bogart Popping is a spokesperson for Hennepin County. He said the Department of Justice never had authority to investigate this office. It was always a stunt. And their depleted civil Rights division's best strategy was to announce an investigation, grab headlines, then close the investigation and claim victory. It was a political attack from the beginning. Their lawyers, committed to defending actual civil rights have left Federal judge here in Minnesota has ordered DOJ and U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement officials to appear in court after failing to comply with court orders yesterday. Judge Jeffrey Bryan scheduled a hearing from March 3 that ordered David Fuller, assistant U.S. attorney and acting chief of the Civil Division of the Minnesota U.S. attorney's office, and Daniel Rosen, the U.S. attorney for the District of Minnesota, to appear in court. The two top officials, along with a representative for ICE are asked to appear explain why they should not be held in civil or criminal contempt. Judge Bryant scheduled the hearing after federal officials failed to return properly property to petitioners in over 20 cases, as was ordered by the court on February 20. Property includes cash, cell phones, jewelry, driver's licenses, work permits, passports, clothing and other identification and immigration documents, according to the court filing. Judge Bryan wrote the court cannot ignore respondents unlawful conduct. The court has previously warned respondents of contempt proceedings if they didn't comply, the filing adds. The court may cancel the hearing for specific cases and if a written stipulation confirming the return of all property is submitted by Nine in the Morning on March 30. National and international News Economic News Some good, some Bad this morning the bad the wholesale prices rose at a faster than expected pace in January, countering any hopes that inflation was easing up. This According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Core Producer Price Index, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, include decreased to A seasonally adjusted 0.8% more than the 0.6% gain in December and well ahead of the Dow Jones estimate of 0.3% for the full year. Core wholesale prices accelerated 3.6% while the headline index posted a 2.9% gain. Both figures well ahead of the Federal Reserve's 2% inflation goal and suggest that rising prices are still a factor for the US Economy. Miami Stock market futures fell this morning, added to losses following the report. Some good economic news for home buyers. Mortgage rates fell below 6% this week for the first time in more than three years. The average rate for a 30 year fixed mortgage 5.98% this week, the lowest level since September of 2022 and a slight decline from last week.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

John, you Know what? I'm tired of winning.

[Tim Hutner]

What?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I'm just tired.

[Chris Reivers]

Said no one ever.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So?

[Chris Reivers]

So?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So there's so much winning.

[John Height]

I'm tired the other night.

[Kenny Olson]

I can give you a re. A loss that you're about to experience.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I have plenty.

[Kenny Olson]

In the House right now, there is a bill to expand the Attorney General's power to prosecute Medicaid fraud. That almost sounds good, doesn't it?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yep.

[Kenny Olson]

He wants that. Being he being Keith Ellison wants people to support his bill that will build out his office, his office's ability to investigate and prosecute Medicaid fraudsters in the state. You can tell I'm holding back a laugh here because this Bill, House File 2354 as amended, would add 18 staffers to the state's office of the Attorney General. He's asking for 1.23 million. How many employees does he already have? He already has 492 employees.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Do we know who authored that bill?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, we do. Hold on. His name is Representative Matt Norris, DFL Blaine. But it's Keith's big bad bill.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Oh, that's terrible. There you go.

[Kenny Olson]

18 more people at a cost of a mill and 23.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay, we're taking John's time. But let me tell you something else. There's a bill also introduced that would allow school districts to raise taxes without putting it before the voters.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, of course. Why would the voters want to have

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

a say in their taxes? Introduced by Senator Steve Saudzinski, DFL Eden Prairie. It eliminates wording that currently notifies taxpayers about how their property taxes would change if a school district referendum is approved.

[Chris Reivers]

So Norris is the guy that took

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

off bill that would remove the long standing requirement for school district referendums to include clear ballot language informing voters that a yes vote to authorize a property tax increase is being considered in the Senate.

[Chris Reivers]

Norris is the guy that took out the Gustafson bill.

[John Height]

That's right, Gabe points out.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes, he is.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's right, Gabe. Yeah.

[John Height]

Health news today. The last thing someone in their 30s or 40s should have to worry about is dying of a heart attack. But new research shows more are the proportion of adults ages 18 to 54 who died in a hospital of severe first heart attack rose 57% between 2011 and 2022. And according to a new study published in the Journal of the American Heart association, the study offers the latest evidence of worsening health among younger US Adults, including deaths from conditions traditionally tied to aging like heart disease and cancer. At least 3/4 of heart attacks among young and middle aged adults are first time heart attacks. Risk factors driving the increase include diabetes, chronic kidney disease and drug use. Low income also could play a role, the study says if a person can't afford to get treatment. A higher percentage of women than men had diabetes, obesity and chronic kidney disease and were of low income, according to the study.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

What about climate change? I'm surprised that's not.

[John Height]

That's not listed.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You know you can train your brain to stand on one leg. You can retrain your brain to help you stand on one leg. I just want you to. I'm serious. I had trouble standing on one leg, but just after three days of practice, I'm getting better and better now.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you reading that from a script or is that actually happening in real life?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

In real life, it seems like you're

[Kenny Olson]

doing an ad for somebody. You stand on your one leg.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That garage door won't close.

[Chris Reivers]

You stand on one leg until it closes quietly.

[John Height]

A story Joe already mentioned, and apparently only he and I care about it. So you other guys, you don't need to listen. Pro Trump activists who say they're in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17 page draft executive order that would claim China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary potential power.

[Tim Hutner]

Over 40.

[John Height]

President Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID ban mail ballots in November's midterm elections. The activists expect their draft will figure into Trump's promised executive order on the issue. No, the White House wouldn't decline. Would not, I'm sorry, decline to elaborate on any of those plans. The idea of claiming emergency executive powers based on allegations of foreign interference attaches new significance to the administration's actions to reinvestigate the 2020 election. The President has never accepted the defeat while never finding evidence of widespread fraud. Every single investigation done by Democrats or Republicans has found no trace of fraud in the 2020 election.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Why is he so hung up on 2020?

[Chris Reivers]

He can't lose. He's. He's the sorest loser of all time.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

No, he's the sorest winner.

[Chris Reivers]

Winner.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

He's back in the gig. Why is he hung up on 2020?

[Kenny Olson]

There's. There's a. The guys that started this country. Those dudes with the funny wigs. Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Pretty smart founding fathers.

[Kenny Olson]

Pretty smart bunch of guys. And along the way, they came up with something called the Constitution. And the Constitution is going to prevent this from happening. So this is one of the reasons why I don't. I'm not setting My hair on fire right now. He can blow V8 all he wants. I love I use that word at least twice a day, every day. He can do this all he wants, but it's just not going to happen. Therefore, let's not get mad about it.

[John Height]

Well, the only reason makes me mad is because an editorial comment here, all this bloviating about elections has turned our election process into a goat show.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, which it shouldn't be, I think it always been.

[John Height]

But everybody daredevil, cheated. No, cheat. Shut up. Okay, now back to the news.

[Joe]

Just ask California, right?

[John Height]

John, you shut up too, because you're wrong. And we could sit and talk about it, but that'd be a boring story.

[Joe]

143 people registered.

[John Height]

Yeah. Apartment building. I know.

[Kenny Olson]

It was a house.

[Joe]

It was a single dwelling house.

[John Height]

Apartment building.

[Joe]

Rambler.

[John Height]

Nick Shirley's.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, give me two patrons, please, and a Guinness chaser.

[John Height]

The US Military used a laser last night to shoot down a threatening drone flying near the US Mexico border.

[Kenny Olson]

The problem said it wrong. John, say it correctly.

[Chris Reivers]

When the quotes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I saw a big, big drone flying over 280 coming in here today.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm surprised the military didn't shoot it down.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, it was. For a minute I thought it was a plane, and then I realized, no, it's a drone. It was a big one.

[John Height]

The problem with shooting down this drone, it was a Customs and Border Protection drone. So they shot down our own case of mistaken identity.

[Chris Reivers]

I wonder how that email went. Hey, boss, you got found.

[John Height]

Five minutes.

[Kenny Olson]

Wasn't that an Elmer Fudd cartoon? My God, that's hilarious.

[John Height]

The case of mistaken Identity prompted the FAA to close additional airspace around Fort Hancock, about 50 miles southeast of El Paso. The military is required to formally notify the FAA when it takes any counter drone action inside US Airspace space. Now remember, we had a story last week, too, in El Paso, same thing. They shot down a drone. So this is the second time they've had this happen in two weeks and it's causing some problems. Members of the House Transportation and Infrastructure and Homeland Security Committee said they were stunned when they heard this news congressman criticizing the Trump administration for sidestepping a bipartisan bill to train drone operators and improve communication among the Pentagon, the FAA and Department of Homeland Security. And now we're seeing the results, according.

[Kenny Olson]

I know, John. I know how this happened happened. It's. It's a case of Matthew being told not to touch the wet varnish on Joe's boat. Somebody said, this is the trigger. Whatever you do, don't shoot down that Drone.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, my God.

[Kenny Olson]

And Matthew said, oh, my God. I gotta do it.

[Chris Reivers]

This one.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

John, we gotta get Patrick. Give us the Tachuk story.

[John Height]

That was next on my list. American hockey player Bradley Tkachuk said Thursday he did not appreciate a doctored tick tock video shared by the White House that made it look like he was disparaging Canadians after winning Olympic gold. He said it was fake and something he would never say. Video includes fabricated audio of Tkachuk referring to Canadians as maple syrup eating blanks with the expletive bleep bleeped out. The video carries a note saying it contains AI generated media. Kachak said it's clearly fake because it's not my voice, not my lips moving. I'm not in control of any of those accounts. I know that those words would never come out of my mouth. Asked if he liked the video, he said he did not. I would never say that. That's not who I am. And of course, making it all worse for Tkachuk, 26 year old Arizona native. He's the captain of the NHL's Ottawa Senators and has played.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

His guy plays in Canada. The White House squeezed all they can out of these guys. And then these morons released this fake audio of Tachuk ripping Canadians who he plays with.

[Chris Reivers]

America.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

They don't know what they're doing.

[Tim Hutner]

Doing?

[Kenny Olson]

What did Royce call him?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Cement heads.

[Kenny Olson]

If Royce hates them, I love them.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, they're wonderful players. They are cement heads, but I guarantee you he didn't say that. He's not that stupid.

[Joe]

Kenny, they were the guys too. Remember the Four Nations Classic?

[Kenny Olson]

Yep.

[Joe]

Drop the gloves right away. You're gonna boo our anthem. Bring it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, he's not gonna rip his own players.

[Joe]

Of course not.

[John Height]

White House did not immediately respond because they're morons.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

They don't know what they're doing.

[Kenny Olson]

Who.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Who are the young people this character has working for him that send this BS out like Nakima Levy pound sobbing Gabe, you're listening.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, you can get a gig up dc.

[John Height]

Have you seen his cabinet, Joe?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[John Height]

That was not called for.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Let's go get Patrick.

[Joe]

Yeah, I don't to want. I want to talk about we are nuts and wearenutsmn.com. hey, it's time to stock up for the weekend.

[Chris Reivers]

Let's go.

[Joe]

So why don't you stop in at Fratelloni's hardware and garden stores?

[Chris Reivers]

You know, I'm entertaining tonight, so I should probably stop by and get some malted milk balls.

[Joe]

You know what? As you eat Your chocolate almonds, beef and cheese burrito, you giant panda. Why don't you stock up on some milk chocolate almonds?

[Tim Hutner]

Yes.

[Joe]

How about the cinnamon toffee peanuts? Why not jumbo cashews?

[Chris Reivers]

Now you're getting.

[Joe]

You know, the cherry trail mix, by the way, is a massive hit. It's really. You like cherries?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I do.

[Joe]

You like a nice cherry Joe?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes.

[Joe]

Okay. Also the. What else am I missing? Oh, the wasabi nuts. The dill pickle nuts are available at Fratelloni's as well. I know, Joe. You can get an entire handful of wearenuts and wearenutsmn.com but like I mentioned, frats, Mac's Hardware, Kowalski's Markets, Lunds and Barley's, Cub Foods, county market, Colburn's and 700 different quick trip locations all carry the brand.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

How are we doing here?

[Joe]

Why do I keep texting Reavers even though he's doing a live ad for we are nuts? [e-mail]. place your order and let them know you heard about them on the Garage Logic podcast.

[Tim Hutner]

Yep. Here we go.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Hey, Pat.

[Josh Arnold]

Yes, Joseph?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

The White House squeezed all they could out of the gold medal hockey team. They weren't done yet. They sent out a fake TikTok video of Brady Chuck ripping Canada saying they're a bunch of maple syrup eating bleeps. And I say, he wouldn't have said that because he plays for Ottawa.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And he denies it. And of course he should deny it. It was all fake. These idiots don't know what they're doing.

[Pat]

So somebody put this on T. T. Tick tock.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes, I. I almost said. I know you did.

[Pat]

I almost said tik tock.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, while you were thinking of Rook and his food tasting.

[Pat]

Yeah, right. So anyway, so they. Somebody put that in the White House, thought it was so good, they sent it back out.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pat]

Here's my problem, okay? With the whole reaction to the hockey team go over the state of Union and all that on the list of absolutely fascist crap this guy is trying to pull off. This one doesn't even make the front be the back page of the Bible, for God's sakes. Who cares?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, you.

[Pat]

You know everything. He wants to steal an election. He's enriching himself by billion as we speak. He's ruining the White House. He takes over center, and then when nobody will play there anymore, we got to pretend like he's. You know, it's unbelievable that people are upset about this. I. What do I care if somebody gets goes. You know, I I hope.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I hope I wasn't misunderstood by you. I'm saying that they're morons for sending this out because they're completely misreading Brady to Chuck. Even though you're thinking of cement head, he wouldn't do that.

[John Height]

Pat's just saying it's low on the list of things.

[Pat]

Not only is he in Canada, he's capital of Canada. Carney's right. Carney lives two blocks down the street, for God.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Unbelievable.

[Pat]

I'm just outrage. And then the women's hockey team is not. They're being coerced into being outraged. They don't care.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You know, they're hockey players. They got. You know, they're going to the lake pretty soon, you know.

[Pat]

Yes. I'm gonna go over and see my gal Abby tonight. Seti.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

She's.

[Pat]

She's back in the lineup for the Gophers. She's gonna set the goal scoring record. And Easy Ed from the southwest gonna be there, her dad and her mom. So I get to see what's. You know, I think they're pals of the Hughes family from youth hockey when. You know, because she was coaching in Michigan, the mom of the Hughes. And I'm strong in the women's hockey.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

This is Abby. Who?

[Pat]

Abby Murphy.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Abby Murphy.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Won the gold medal for her. She lifted up the Canadian. And when they're gonna break in and win it in overtime. And then they came back and she's. She's. She. As I say, when she's in her. When she's in a bad mood, she could start a. But she was pretty well behaved over in the Olympics, so.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Are you on your cell phone?

[Pat]

Yes, sir.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay. You're cutting out occasionally, but we'll be all right.

[Chris Reivers]

He's on a landline with that huge cord from Napoleon Dynamite around the corner.

[Tim Hutner]

Corner.

[Pat]

I just. I just came back from the drugstore where I had to buy some.

[John Height]

Some.

[Pat]

Some medical things for the bride, so I moved here.

[John Height]

So.

[Chris Reivers]

Sniders.

[Pat]

No, no, it was. It was. I. It's something. It's. It's. It's, uh. You know.

[Joe]

Hey, Pat, I got a question for you.

[Pat]

Little Pricey.

[Joe]

I have a question for you. So I took the. The Fighting 8th grade Jordan Hubman to the St. Thomas North Dakota State game last night. That arena is impressive, but I have a. I have something against Mr. Tower. He's got one Minnesota kid on that starting lineup.

[Chris Reivers]

Dr. Tower knows how to put a team together.

[Pat]

He got quite a few. Wisconsin.

[Joe]

Yeah, it's four Wisconsin kids and one kid from Plymouth.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

It's like Wisconsin, Minnesota kids are playing hockey. It's the same thing practically.

[Joe]

That's an impressive facility though.

[Pat]

You know, before he looks where they what where their home is, he looks to see if they can make a shot or not.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

They.

[Pat]

What do you think of their 6 foot 8, 3 point shooter? Berkey? He's the night I was there. He made 10.

[Joe]

He made.

[Pat]

Last night. He made seven.

[Joe]

Seven last night. That's the one kid from plymouth. He's the 1 Minnesota kid in their starting lineup.

[Pat]

He's a good player, but it's an interesting way to play offense because they. The only time they go to the basket is Dr. Mean. They never post up. They never put anybody down low and throwing the ball. They kind of very freewheeling. So anyway, they look good. I watched quite a bit of it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So, Pat, there's an interesting golf story. Koepka came crawling back to the pga. I tip my hat to him for that, but, boy, is he not playing well. We need a big event for him because he just doesn't get it out. He's not. He's at the. He's at the Cognizant now. I don't know what they used to call it. It's at the PGA in Palm beach and he's not playing well.

[Pat]

Oh, they have. They have left the West Coast.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We're done.

[Josh Arnold]

We're back.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We're in the.

[Tim Hutner]

We are.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We're starting the Florida swing.

[John Height]

Swing.

[Pat]

Okay. You know what is the most interesting thing though, Joe, I think we might have talked about this a bit though is we got a new commissioner who wants to reduce considerably the number of tournaments.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I don't like that.

[Pat]

And he's. He wants it to be. He wants him not to compete with the NFL at all. But this guy comes from the NFL and he thinks less is more, you know, so he wants to basically have 20 good tournaments or 18 good tournaments and the hell with everybody else, you know.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay, then. As long as you're going down. As long as you're going down that road. I was talking to a guy who has a great idea. Idea. Why don't you save Riviera at LA and pebble beach for the dead of summer and we'd get. We could get golf here till about 9 or 9:30 at night in those two tournaments. Wouldn't that be cool?

[Pat]

Yeah, would be a great, great idea. It's not. You're right on the water. So it isn't like it's gonna be boiling hot or anything.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Right. It'd be wonderful. Be wonderful.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah.

[Pat]

I don't know what's going on, but.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And if you weren't serious before, and I know you were, it's this wild. This is. This is getting very serious. They beat the ABs last night in Denver 5 to 2, and the ABs

[Pat]

didn't take it well. They took a lot of stupid penalties and they not. And, you know, I wrote something the other day, Tuesday, saying it's time for a run here. Come on, 50 years of hockey in this, and we've had one run.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Let's go here.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So.

[Pat]

But I said they got five of the top 30 players in a league. Or, you know, maybe I put Erickson Eck in there, and everybody was saying he's not even close. Nobody wants to play against this big guy. He's 6 foot 4. He beats you up. And he. Last night, he starts off with two goals.

[Chris Reivers]

He's.

[Pat]

He's damn near as valuable in that team as. Well, not quite as Hughes, but maybe

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

as much as the Russian nationality is Ericsson neck. Is he a.

[Pat]

He does speed, but he swan. Sounds like a swimless Finlander, but.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, did he play for Sweden in the. In the Olympics?

[Pat]

I believe he did, yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Okay.

[Pat]

And they didn't.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

They didn't.

[Pat]

They didn't do much. No, right.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

No, too many Swedes.

[Pat]

Yeah, that's right. Well, he's not the Old Time of Swede, though. He'll beat you up.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Oh, I know.

[Pat]

Nobody wants to stand next to him.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

He's kind of a new. Kind of Swedish.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

But apparently the Olympic team had too many old types of Swedes.

[Pat]

Hey, is Johnny there? Yes, yes, Johnny, we.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

We.

[Pat]

So far, today's Twins pitching staff has held the Yankees to eight in two innings.

[John Height]

Well, you know, very worse.

[Pat]

I was talking. I was talking to Declan the other day, and he was telling me how good Marco Raya looked. Marco gave up five of the four. First and then in his debut, and then. And then potential closer Coral Sands gave up three in the second on two home runs. So the pitch is routing into shape here. This team is going to stink because they have no pitching with everybody getting hurt. By the way, did you see Rod Royce went for the first of his many MRIs?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Sure did. Yesterday. Yeah.

[Pat]

Every time he swings hard, he's got to go get an mri.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Pat, you said something that really upset me. Are balls and strikes under review this summer?

[Joe]

Oh, my God.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Huh? That's terrible. The games are going to take five hours.

[Joe]

Joe, I. Listen. Go ahead, Pat.

[Progressive Commercial Insurance Announcer]

Sorry.

[Pat]

It comes very. They make the decision quickly, but to Me, it gives you more of an excuse not to swing the bat, which is the biggest problem with baseball. Nobody swings the bat.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Why are we doing.

[Joe]

I was listening to the ball game. Pat Patrick. Last Saturday, Jeffers challenged three pitches in one at bat.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Oh, my God.

[Pat]

And if he keeps getting right, then they keep getting challenges. That's the problem.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Was he right?

[Joe]

He was right twice.

[Pat]

Give him three challenges all day.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's it. No challenges. No.

[Tim Hutner]

0.

[Joe]

The best was the dazzle man Patrick, because the day he goes, well, here comes another one.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

This is terrible. What is baseball doing?

[Joe]

I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

This is a bad.

[Pat]

Killing themselves.

[Joe]

The time clock ended up being great.

[Pat]

I thought, let's get Eric Greg back behind a plate and let everybody better swing the bat, because if Levon throws it in the building, it's going to be a strike.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Say in the Wall Street Journal today, there's a great book review.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Of Ron Luciano. Luciano's biography is called Loosh. I didn't know he killed himself.

[Pat]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yeah. He sat in the garage in his car. I don't know what trouble there were.

[Pat]

There were. There were a few players that would have liked to do the same back in the day, but did you see who died? Bruce Fremming, who was another famous. And you know what the best Bruce Fred story comes from? Arnold Gazelle. Yeah, Arnold, way back when he's in Duluth, and he's. They're up in the press box and they're. Somebody up there is scoring in old Wade Stadium, and they're kind of yelling at Fremy. He's a plate umpire, and he throws them all out of the press box. He makes the eviction all from the fresh press box. And they're all. They turn a light on, but they're all, like, crouched down. Famous framing story is like 1956. He throws Arnold and all the other Duluth guys out of the. Out of the press box. Okay.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You're going to go for hockey game. You have a great time.

[Pat]

I will. Thank you.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

See you Monday. All right. Thank you. What was I going to do? We. We need to do something.

[Joe]

We should actually. You know what? No, you're good.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

You can do. I'm taking time out. I want to hear that scrambled song.

[Chris Reivers]

February is almost over.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Here we go. Finally. They gone to. Today is Friday. Tgti Friday.

[Joe]

It's a scramble.

[Chris Reivers]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

One more thing.

[Joe]

Yes. Yes, sir.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes. Sure.

[Pat]

Greatest tweet ever. Did you see this? Yesterday? Yesterday. Chris Everett. This guy is A Chris Everett has been married. Chris Everett's been married to an Aussie.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yep.

[Pat]

An American and a Brit.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Right.

[Pat]

And this guy said, if she can only marry a Frenchman, she can have the grand slam of husband.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

And each of the three guys she married for those countries was a winner.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

So to make the Grand Slam, she needs a French Open winner. That's right.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Yes. Right.

[Pat]

That's right. Greg Norman is. That one didn't last too long, though. I think the quote from Norm. Mrs. Norman was, he stole my husband. He stole my husband and then decided she didn't like him or some damn thing like that. So, anyway.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

All right. Thank you. Anyway.

[Pat]

I thought that was great.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Thank you.

[Chris Reivers]

One more thing.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Hey, Greg, you see that tweet?

[Joe]

Oh, that was a pretty damn good tweet, though.

[Tim Hutner]

I saw that.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Only because they come to us all the way from Penguin Tasmania. From the traveling lymans@worldwide waftage.com. this state. This state of Minnesota really has been in the doldrums in the month of February.

[Joe]

We're getting ready for spring.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, they really didn't do much. It was on this day, February 7th, in 1843. Thomas Lowry was born in Logan County, Illinois. After arriving In Minneapolis in 1868, Lowry played an instrumental role in establishing the Twin Cities streetcar system. He died in 1909. I think you have a Lowry Hill over there.

[Joe]

What about Lowry Tunnel?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Lowry Tunnel. That's all for him, I think.

[Joe]

Gotcha.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

On this day, February 7th, in 1857, Waseca county was formed, named with a Dakota word meaning rich in provision. Also on this day, a humorous episode of Minnesota's history began. Joseph Rollette, a fur trader representing Pembina. Is it Pembina or Pembina?

[John Height]

It's Pembina in the city of North Dakota. I don't know.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Pembina in the territorial legislature, stole the text to a bill to move the Capitol from St. Paul to St. Peter. Although the bill had been passed, it had not been signed by the government. Governor Rollette disappeared until the legislature adjourned on March 7, hiding in the Fuller House attic while the bill rested in a hotel safe.

[Pat]

How about that?

[John Height]

Wacky.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

That's. That was funny, wasn't it? Yeah, that was a funny episode. On this day in history. Yes, on this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment, history.

[Joe]

Joe, who did we lose to on February 27th?

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

Well, on this day in 1992, Mike Lynn sold his shares of the Vikings.

[Tim Hutner]

Wow.

[Chris Reivers]

But kept in perpetuity.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

I think he kept the sweets.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, he did.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

In the Metrodome. And that was it then for this day in history. Thank you very much.

[Joe]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. One more thing. Do us a favor if you have not done so already and hit the subscribe button right there on the Garage Logic YouTube channel. That's right, Garage Logic. We've got a YouTube channel where you, you can watch the show each and every single day starting right around noon. You can also see full segments, there's video shorts, there's even behind the scenes footage. Just search garagelogic, that's two words on YouTube and search on all of our social media channels. That includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That's an email that comes right to your inbox each and every single day. And it includes the most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more and sign up today [e-mail] it is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here at garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did in pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-92556. When you call that number you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yep, use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation and he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, more selling occurred here towards the end of the month. But we did have some nice positives as well, didn't we?

[Josh Arnold]

We had some very nice positives. I'll get to the positives in a, in a few minutes but negative, negative, negative. A lot of, of red on the screen and a lot of the red that is in the screen. A lot of the red that is on my screen has to do with software related companies or companies that have been spending a lot of money on building out artificial intelligence capability. So that is particularly focused in on what is known as the hyperscalers, the big spenders. Microsoft Alphabet, also known as Google, Meta, also known as Facebook and Amazon. Those stocks are all down, I'll say down for the month. Microsoft and Meta have been in bear market with their, their spending and in particular with Microsoft because that is the number one company on the software exchange traded fund that has continued to be beaten down this, this month. Additionally it is the end of the month. And there are a number of hedge funds and other institutional investors will say are cleaning up their books to show what they don't have or what they have done for their their clients as well as the end of a weekly options move. And that can also help drive some stocks on the way down. And also continued worries about what may or may not happen in the Iran. Add to that the producer price index number came up and that was much higher than had been expected. Particularly driven not not so much by food costs being down but the PPI coming up was driven by an increase in professional services revenue and commercial equipment costs going up. So my sense of that oh I would also throw the steel prices for also going up. So I could imply and I emphasize I could imply that the impact of tariff is pushing up the producer price index and that is say one of the Federal Reserve preferred inflation gates. At the same time that has happened with concerns about we'll say war in the Middle east and concerns about the stock market particularly software stocks being in a bear market interest rates have come down as traders do look to some safety level in longer term trade. Treasury me I'm not a bond guy nor am I looking for safety in long term Treasury I do have plenty of cash available to buy on this on this dip. And the companies that I have focused in whether they be in in and around the Internet, leisure, China related businesses or real assets I've gotten we'll say some better prices that I can add to add to position. So I do like some of the companies people have been sell selling whether it's favorite Apple or Amazon or defense contractor Palantir another defense contractor that manufactures hypersonic engines and drones. Kratos Defense system which today did a secondary offering provide them more money to take take on some opportunities. And that secondary stock offering did drive their stock price down. But I do like these companies. Additionally I do like the leisure market and we've covered we'll say experiences companies like Live Nation which does face some issues in the coming weeks with the Justice Department going after their Ticketmaster entity. I think there will be some resolution there. But in the meantime Live Nation has seen produce some very good we'll say numbers and have raised their guide. And then TKO which has ultimate fighting and worldwide Entertainment has also produced a deep and raised quarter not to mention buying back shares and an increased dividend. And then of course if I were looking for we'll say some safety now that's still companies like Coca Cola and even Walmart. There is another we'll say interesting development happening today or overnight first has to do with again artificial intelligence will say changing the dynamic in company. I do believe this is going to create different jobs but it is going to be disruptive across the across the board. One company where there is plenty of disruption has been in financial will say financial services and these maybe there's too many companies pursuing the same same business but we've seen a block. You might know them as square where Cash app their CEO and founder Jack Dorsey announced last night that he's going to be cutting over 40% of his employee primarily on trying to restructure the company and move forward. He did cite the impact of AI on that the stock jumped on that news competitor PayPal has been having some issues and they they're trading at half their recent high. They did deny a deny a report that privately held strike was out to buy them. And lastly Netflix pulled out of the battle to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery, leaving the field open for Paramount's office which is at $31 a share. Both Netflix and Paramount are up on that that news going to be interesting going forward. As they say, beware the ides of March.

[Joe]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard it. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-92-55608, where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day. Have a fantastic weekend and we'll talk to you again next next week.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it.

[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

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[John Height]

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[Joe]

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[Host (possibly Joe or main host)]

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