2/4 Tom Homan vows to drive down the number of ICE agents

Summary

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Garage Logic – February 4, 2026

Episode Title: “Tom Homan Vows to Drive Down Number of ICE Agents”
Host: Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”)
Produced by: Gamut Podcast Network
Featuring: Chris Reavers, Kenny O., John Heidt, “Rookie” Matthew, John Randall

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Episode Overview

This Garage Logic episode centers on the intersection of local and national news, with a pointed discussion on recent ICE drawdowns in Minnesota announced by Tom Homan, ongoing activism around immigration enforcement, lawsuits and controversies over gender-affirming care for minors, and the ideological tensions shaping current events. Joe Soucheray and the crew deliver their takes on the absurdities of modern life, “why we are doomed,” and dig into headline stories with their characteristic blend of skepticism, common sense, and neighborhood banter.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Why We Are Doomed: Outrage Over Newspapers at the Humane Society

• [01:55–06:13]
  A listener shares that a local humane society now requests removal of articles referencing "ICE" or religious obituaries from donated newspapers, claiming it could "minimize trauma" for people (not animals). This sparks a group lament about hypersensitivity and a tongue-in-cheek discussion about societal decline.

  Joe: “In her view of the world, a religious obituary is traumatizing. Wow.” [04:52]

• Jokes about staff stereotypes and “colorful hair” follow, underscoring the show’s running commentary on cultural shifts.

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2. Lawsuit Over Gender-Affirming Surgery for Minors

• [07:44–17:54]
  The case of Fox Varian, who at age 16 underwent double mastectomy surgery, later detransitioned, and successfully sued for $2 million, is discussed at length. The crew debates parental responsibility, the role of physicians, and the broader implications for medical practice regarding minors.

  Chris: “Is she suing them because she was an idiot or are we going to take her side because she was a minor and probably taken advantage of because she is an idiot?” [12:32]

• Parent’s consent under duress from medical professionals is highlighted, with reflections on whether this case sets a legal precedent and signals a societal “ray of hope” toward more medical caution.

• Joe and guests deride those who perform such operations on minors and sketch out perceived hypocrisies in how age and consent are treated by authorities.

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3. ICE Drawdown and the “Soucheray Plan”

• [26:14–37:16]
  Discussion pivots to Tom Homan (former acting ICE director), who announces a withdrawal of 700 ICE agents from Minnesota due to “increasing collaboration and reduced attacks.” Joe jokes about his supposed influence and discusses whether this reduction will appease anti-ICE protesters.

  Joe: “He’s attempting to be an adult in the room.” [36:50]

• The funding and organization of anti-ICE protests are scrutinized. The crew reads from articles documenting George Soros-backed funding to activist groups via the Minneapolis-based Headwaters Foundation for Justice. A running joke questions, “What do they actually spend millions on?” [30:41]

  Joe: “Why is money needed? Whistles don’t cost that much. That doesn’t make sense to me. Who’s getting the money?” [29:53]

• The hosts dissect the foundation’s mission language (equity, collective liberation) and draw conclusions about its likely stance on borders.

• Joe probes whether most urban protestors are against ICE’s methods or fundamentally against borders, with group consensus that all these factors (including anti-Trump sentiment) are at play.

  Chris: “If President Trump's name is attached to it, people are going to protest it.” [38:39]

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4. Minneapolis Activist Funding & ICE Resistance

• [37:43–45:00]
  Breakdown of recipient organizations, including Minnesota Freedom Fund, OutFront MN, and groups supporting Somali communities, their roles, and activities (from riots to legal trainings and rapid response teams).
• The training for medical providers to “protect patients during ICE searches” gives rise to confusion and critique.

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5. Local Political Roundup: Minnesota Caucuses

• [48:25–51:58]

• Results from state caucuses: Lisa Demuth leads GOP gubernatorial race, Mike Lindell (“the pillow guy”) places third, raising eyebrows.

  Joe: “The pillow guy beat Scott Jensen by 1500 votes.” [49:13]

• Amy Klobuchar shows a strong lead in hypothetical polls. Messing about potential cabinet positions for Lindell if a GOP win occurs, with all agreeing he should not get one.

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6. More on ICE & Federal Law Enforcement Staffing

• [51:58–54:52]
• Holman’s drawdown leaves 2,000 agents; lawsuits challenging ICE activity near schools cited as disrupting education.
• Mass resignations at the MN U.S. Attorney’s office are linked to pressure regarding local fraud investigations and fallout from high-profile cases.

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7. National and International News Highlights

• [57:37–62:33]

• Quick hits: House passes spending bill, debates over nationalizing elections, the constitutionality of shifting election authority from states to feds (Trump suggests doing so; hosts reject this emphatically).

  Joe: “If you think this is a great idea it’s not going to be a great idea when you don’t like who’s in charge.” [61:04]

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8. Musings on Protest Culture, Media, and Political Hypocrisy

• Ongoing conversation weaves through topics like differences in activism under Obama vs. Trump, media coverage, and changing public attitudes.
• The importance (or irrelevance) of podcast punditry:

  Chris Reavers: “Because what we say matters, right?”
  Joe: “It really, it really doesn't matter.” [62:54]

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9. Levity, Local Color, and Banter

• Recurring bits: nostalgic references (Three Dog Night, Beavis & Butthead, Bob Davis anecdotes), pizza preferences, and detailed asides about North American Banking’s golf show and appliance repairs.
• Joe laments white privilege definitions, entertains a brief discussion on left-leaning college teachings, and rails against “fufu” pizza toppings.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Soucheray on “why we are doomed” theme:

  “Another indication, one more indication that we are doomed. That we are doomed.” [06:13]

• On gender-affirming surgery lawsuits:

  “It’s not only significant, it should be creating the new letter of the law.” [11:43]
  “This kid’s getting knocked around like a cue ball.” (Chris Reavers, 12:32)

• On ICE protest funding:

  “How do you spend 3 million 325 grand on protesters? Why is money needed? Whistles don't cost that much.” [29:53]
  “Their intensity in their opposition to ICE is paramount to their beliefs.” [33:16]

• On national elections:

  “If you think this is a good idea, it's not going to be a good idea. If you don't like who's in charge, your day will come.” [61:04]

• Re: The drawdown of ICE, anti-Trump protest energy:

  “If President Trump’s name is attached to it, people are going to protest it.” (Chris Reavers, 38:39)

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Timestamps For Key Segments

• 01:55–06:13 — Humane Society newspaper “trauma” & cultural commentary
• 07:44–17:54 — Gender-affirming surgery lawsuit analysis
• 26:14–37:16 — Tom Homan’s ICE drawdown, protester funding investigation
• 48:25–51:58 — Minnesota caucus results & local political banter
• 51:58–54:52 — Law enforcement staffing, fraud investigations, legal system pressure
• 57:37–62:33 — National election reforms, podcast relevance reflections

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Tone and Style

• Language: Conversational, blunt, sometimes irreverent
• Tone: Sceptical about social change, full of “garage logic” (common sense) lamentations, peppered with dry humor and group jibes
• Content: Mix of headline interpretation, real-world anecdotes, and mockery of “political correctness”—frequent return to the theme of cultural and institutional absurdity

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For First-Time or Non-Listeners

This episode is a typical slice of Garage Logic: a lively, sometimes cantankerous take on the news of the day, grounded in local flavor and a deep suspicion of modern trends. It’s ideal for those seeking an unapologetically old-school perspective, skeptical of elite narratives and amused by the ironies of contemporary American life.

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For More: Visit garagelogic.com or subscribe on major platforms—bonus banter and additional segments are available to loyal “GLers.”

Transcript

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[Joe Sushi]

Hail you. And now, from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny O. Also from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course, the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Sushi. Another reason, another reason why we're doomed.

[Matthew]

Why we are doomed.

[Joe Sushi]

Our friend Kerry Moran. Kerry Clap Moran.

[John Randall]

Sure.

[Joe Sushi]

This is a test. Oh, wait. I predict. I predict someone will get it. Okay. All right, guys. My mom has been dropping off her old newspapers at an East Metro humane society for many years. The papers go into the dog and cat cages. Got it. Well, that's charitable of the moment. Today, the young gal behind the counter asked my mom to remove any articles related to blank or blank.

[Matthew]

Easy.

[Joe Sushi]

My mom said why the animals can't read. And the girl said no, but others do, and we want to minimize trauma.

[John Randall]

This is a layup. Go ahead.

[Matthew]

This is a double pump.

[Joe Sushi]

What did the young lady behind the counter at the Humane Society find now finds disagreeable in the newspapers that mom brought down there out of the goodness of her heart to line the cages? And this gal said she wanted those newspapers removed from her contribution.

[Matthew]

May I go first?

[Joe Sushi]

You may.

[Matthew]

I'm not even writing it down.

[Joe Sushi]

You may.

[Matthew]

References to ice and or Trump.

[Chris Reavers]

I just read something and I hope it's false. By the way, your test is too easy. I just read that, John.

[John Heiss]

I hope. I'm just agreeing.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay. Ice and Trump That's Trump.

[Chris Reavers]

What I read earlier is bs. I read that somebody wants to kill their kid to protect the kid from ice. That's where we're at right now.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay. ICE is the right answer. That's one of the things she does not want seen in a newspaper. But it wasn't Trump. The second thing is, even I would have beyond your probably a be. I. I didn't think it would be. But you're all students in how screwed up the world is, so I thought you'll get it. I'm going to give you another shot. Okay. The young gal doesn't want any mention. He doesn't want to see ICE articles. She doesn't want to see blank.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, it should be Trump fraud. Maybe.

[Matthew]

No, let me take a stab. Is this been years of garage logic.

[Joe Sushi]

Over the years, Matt. This would have come up however peripherally or obliquely.

[Matthew]

Climate change.

[Joe Sushi]

No, no, no. The woman at the counter would be in favor of that. Oh, oh, true. Oh, you in the back.

[John Randall]

Second guess, cuz I also wrote down Trump fraud.

[Joe Sushi]

No, somebody else mentioned fraud.

[John Randall]

Damn it.

[Joe Sushi]

You're not going to get it. So I'll cut to the cheeks. John.

[Matthew]

I'm sorry, you copied me.

[John Heiss]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

Today the young girl behind the counter asked my mom to remove any articles related to ICE or any religious obituaries. My mom said why the animals can't read and the girl said no, but others do. And we want to minimize trauma.

[Chris Reavers]

Religious obituary.

[Joe Sushi]

You could be traumatized in this. In this young woman's. And that's as far as she's going to go in the world. Working the desk at the Humane Society. In her view of the world, a religious obituary is traumatizing. Wow.

[John Heiss]

What is a religious obituary? Seriously?

[Joe Sushi]

I tell us when it says one hour before Mass at 4 o' clock or went home.

[Chris Reavers]

Went home to the Lord.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew]

Or maybe Morty, where Shiva is one hour before the service.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, something like that.

[John Randall]

Non believers.

[Matthew]

Yes, that is also religious.

[John Heiss]

Well, whoever made that rule, they're an idiot.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, Carrie's mother should just never go back there and just let her papers go to the recycling bin.

[Matthew]

What a nice gesture that she's doing that for those animals. And that stupid nose pierced moron is saying no religion, no ice.

[John Randall]

What color hair are you seeing?

[Joe Sushi]

I'm seeing kind of a yellow pink deal.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I think you multicolored for sure.

[Joe Sushi]

Wow. Yeah.

[Matthew]

Good luck working at 3M or Target.

[John Randall]

Because that German shepherd is going to be too traumatized to take a crap on the floor of a newspaper. That's got, you know, Catholic mentioned in it.

[Joe Sushi]

Wow. Another indication, one more indication that we are doomed. That we are doomed. We missed a link in the Memphis snow story. The two city council people in Memphis.

[Matthew]

Yolanda.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

And somebody else. Pearl. Pearl. Yeah. And they. They believed the snow was a conspiracy. Joe, in listening, you and the team had fun with the story of the two Memphis City council members who thought the snow was a conspiracy. You touched on it briefly, but her most telling phrase was, I'm not going to deny my reality because of someone else's comfort zone. Isn't denying reality exactly what they want everyone else to do when it comes to climate change, gender, or, frankly, any other controversial topic? They. I guess he means mysterians. They consistently want us to deny our reality, which is just plain old reality on these subjects. And if we don't, we are racists, bigots, homophobes, et cetera. I'm glad she's not going to deny her reality. Just don't ask me. Just don't ask me to deny mine. Love the show. Hi to the dummies, John. Hi, John.

[Matthew]

Thank you, Johnny.

[Chris Reavers]

Good point.

[Joe Sushi]

Truth. Isn't that the truth?

[Chris Reavers]

Sure is, Joe.

[Matthew]

Sycophant.

[Joe Sushi]

Where. Where did I have it? This is very confusing to me. Go. A woman named Fox Varian.

[Chris Reavers]

Good morning.

[Matthew]

Conventionally spelled two X's.

[Joe Sushi]

No. What? X. Okay, I don't know if it's a man or woman. And you'll know why here in a moment. Fox Varian, 22, sued both a psychologist and a plastic surgeon involved in carrying out a double mastectomy on her in Westchester County, New York, in 2019. She was awarded $2 million after finding. A jury awarded the young woman. She's now back to being a woman. A jury awarded her 2 million after finding two medical professionals liable for malpractice in connection with a sex change procedure performed on her when she was 16. So I'm very confused this. If any psychologist or plastic surgeon reads this, they're never going to again accommodate any minor asking for this surgery.

[Chris Reavers]

I would hope not.

[Joe Sushi]

Is that a ray of hope?

[Chris Reavers]

That's good.

[Joe Sushi]

It's an odd ray of hope, isn't it?

[Matthew]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Sushi]

It's weird because this poor. The 2 million the jurors awarded the woman includes 1.6 mil for the suffering she endured as a result of the procedure and an additional 400 grand to cover her future medical expenses. Her attorney had asked for 8 million. The case was called Varian versus Einhorn. It was filed in New York Supreme Court in Westchester county according to a screenshot shared by independent journalist Benjamin Ryan. It lists Varian as the sole plaintiff. New York clinical psychologist Kenneth Einhorn and New York based plastic surgeon Simon Chin, as well as their respective employers were listed as plaintiffs. Ryan, who is known for his reporting on pediatric gender medicine, stated in a substack post late Friday he was the only reporter to attend the entire three week historic trial, which he called riveting, yet nobody attended it. I have identified 28 detransitioner lawsuits filed to date, this fellow wrote in a post to X early Saturday morning. Varian versus Eichorn was the first to go to trial and the first to win a judgment. The jury had concluded Einhorn and Chin's conduct leading up to Varian's double mastectomy marked a departure from the standard of care. The verdict only specifically applied to the plaintiff's case, however, and not in general to minors receiving so called gender affirming care, the National Review reported. Chris Billboard Chris Elston, an activist known for his opposition to child sex changes, hailed the verdict of Variance case. The first victory in court for a young woman who was harmed by a gender by gender doctors as a child, elston wrote from his Billboard Chris account. Fox Varian had her breasts removed as a 16 year old girl because she was indoctrinated to believe she was trans. This verdict I hope is a significant step in turning around this madness. Ted Cruz said this is not going to be the last lawsuit and you pointed out one of the most evil aspects of this which is there is a multi million dollar if not a multi billion dollar industry behind this pushing these new supposed treatments that are just abusive kids. And you've got woke adults who are pushing these treatments because they want a virtue signal. Virtuous they are. But you've also got hospitals, Crews, Sid. You've got doctors who are making massive amounts of money in this lawsuit. You want to talk about changing physician behavior and changing hospital behavior. This lawsuit is significant. Well, it's not only significant, it should be creating the new letter of the law. You come to Dr. Jones and mom brings in the 16 year old girl and says she wants to be a boy. Dr. Jones has got to say see you later, right? I don't want any part of it. You're nuts.

[Matthew]

What's going to happen 10 years down the right? Exactly what's it going to cost me?

[Chris Reavers]

Is she suing them because she was an idiot or are we going to take her side because she was a minor and probably taken advantage of because she is an idiot? I Don't. And is she now the pawn of money hungry lawyers? This kid's getting knocked around like a cue ball.

[Joe Sushi]

I see it this way. She might be representative of what thousands of kids who underwent these procedures as minors and now have woken up to reality and the. And thinking, what the hell did I do?

[Chris Reavers]

Are we going to let them off the hook? We probably should.

[Joe Sushi]

I think that if you're a minor, I think what the. Without knowing a lot about this other than what I just read, it seems to me her being a minor at the time played a big role in this decision. Exactly.

[Matthew]

So 16 years, 21.

[Joe Sushi]

And you go in and do it. Tough luck. Exactly. Live with your fantasy. Right.

[Matthew]

Why does the parent bear no responsibility for signing off if it's a minor?

[Joe Sushi]

I have no idea.

[Chris Reavers]

Was there a parent mentioned in the story? Because Matthew's right.

[Matthew]

Yeah. They'd have to sign off quickly.

[Joe Sushi]

That's my quick reading noise.

[Matthew]

Fox is gonna have to.

[Joe Sushi]

Is it Fox?

[Chris Reavers]

Like an electric motor going there?

[Joe Sushi]

I thought I read the monsters.

[John Randall]

What's in the nightstand?

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, I thought her mom brought her to the doctor. There's no mention of a mom here. Okay, well, now that she's of age, she might not be dragging them, but as a minor.

[John Heiss]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

The parent, I would assume maybe I'm wrong would have to sign off on this.

[Matthew]

So let me be clear. It was originally the 16 year old.

[Joe Sushi]

Came in as a 16 year old.

[Chris Reavers]

And said, these have got to go. I'm a dog.

[Joe Sushi]

She came in as a female and she had her breasts removed. And now she's. That was in 2019. So nine. And.

[Matthew]

Oh, so now, now she's saying, when I was 16. You did this.

[Joe Sushi]

She's now 23.

[Matthew]

Okay.

[John Heiss]

Okay. I did find a report from the mother.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[John Heiss]

Varian's mother, Claire Deacon, testified at the trial. She opposed the surgery but was pressured into consenting after Einhorn. He was. The doctor warned her that Varian was suicidal.

[Chris Reavers]

The doctor, was that the psychology?

[John Heiss]

The psychiatrist, John Einhorn, was he the psychologist?

[Joe Sushi]

Einhorn's the psychologist, yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, that's not enough.

[Joe Sushi]

What's the mom's name?

[John Heiss]

What's the. What Mom's name? Yeah, let me go back here. Claire Deacon.

[Joe Sushi]

Oh, Claire.

[John Randall]

Claire.

[Joe Sushi]

I thought the mom's first name was Deacon. And I'm thinking, well, there's your problem.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, Kenny's going to kill himself if you don't cut his hand off. Well, you better go ahead and cut his hand off. I mean, it's also absurd.

[Matthew]

He's right handed, so.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, this Is that reporter who said, why isn't anybody witnessing this trial was right. This is. This is ground. This is historic.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

No doctor should ever do this based on this. If the doctor wants to do it. When you're. What's. What's legal? 18.

[Matthew]

18.

[Joe Sushi]

18. If you want to go in there at the age of 20 and say, lop them off, you probably aren't going to ever get sued.

[Chris Reavers]

Let's bring this home, Joe. Aren't. Are we not a sanctuary state for this sort of nonsense?

[Joe Sushi]

We are. Yes, we are.

[Chris Reavers]

Goodness.

[Joe Sushi]

Doctors in Minnesota, you'd be crazy to go along with the BS the DFL legislature has created. Just don't practice this, otherwise you're gonna get sued. The ground has been broken.

[John Randall]

And that's why this nonsense has always bothered me, because I remember when we first started talking about this and said. I remember a woman can't remember if it was in Minnesota saying, oh, my six year old, okay? I had a four year old at the time. And I said, what are you talking about? Choosing their gender. Leland wanted to be a fire truck when he was five. What are we doing?

[Chris Reavers]

What doctor. It'd be like when Beavis walks up to you when you're walking into the liquor store to get a. A6 bag.

[Joe Sushi]

Buy me beer. Bye, beer.

[Chris Reavers]

And you just say, get lost, kid. What doctor wouldn't say get lost?

[Joe Sushi]

Get.

[Chris Reavers]

Get away from me?

[Joe Sushi]

I don't know. We live in. We live in very strange times. I am Cornholio. I need Tippy for my bunghole. Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes, you do. He's not alone.

[Joe Sushi]

We got white privilege, man.

[John Randall]

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[Joe Sushi]

Well, new Looney Tunes, I guess. You know, on the off chance there's a doc out there, a shrink, Listen to GL boy. Get rid of all your cases involving trans kids unless you want to go broke.

[John Randall]

Right.

[Joe Sushi]

And if you want to go broke, that's not my problem. That would be. That would be your problem.

[Chris Reavers]

What kind of jackass would back up a minor so confused and say, you know what, you little person, you're right. Let's lop it off. You definitely should lop them off.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

You know, as a guy, you'd rather just.

[Joe Sushi]

But then these hypocrites like Mary Moriarty, they.

[Chris Reavers]

I was waiting for you to bring that up.

[Joe Sushi]

They don't believe you're capable of committing a crime because your mind isn't really developed yet at the age of 16.

[Chris Reavers]

Thank you.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, that's true. You're a sweetheart, Mary.

[Matthew]

Most guys at that point in their life would rather have both of them jump rope in a nice full length mirror.

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I have.

[Chris Reavers]

To that was only funny to me. I'm sorry. That ice auger. That's what I'm talking about this week. The only way to make your gas operated ice auger is to run that thing every single day for the entire hard water fishing season. And not only do you do that, you have to toss in a a shot of SE every time you fill up. These things are horrible. The worst single cylinder tool ever made and the only thing that keeps these things running is Seafoam. Otherwise they smoke up the fish house. You got to run them at half throttle just to keep them alive. They die out halfway down the hole. They're the worst things ever, these. You know what? They should come with operating instructions. There should be a sticker on the gas tank on Ice Hoggers that said, use Seafoam. Use a lot of Seafoam, because this tool sucks. But Seafoam, truly the answer for all your cylinder woes. And it doesn't matter if it's gas or Diesel, single cylinder, 12 cylinder, it doesn't matter. Seafoam is always the answer. If you want to keep those cylinders happy, keep those jets open. Keep everything operating as it should. Seafoam will help you get there. It is the ticket. It cleans, it rejuvenates, it makes everything fantastic. It is a wonderful product in a world of bad gas.

[Joe Sushi]

This is a classic example of white privilege. And you both have it. What's that? Anyone want to fill them in? Yeah, I'll do it. Okay. So white privilege is when white people, particularly men, automatically assume they can take whatever they want and they never have to worry about getting stopped by the police. And they have the inside track for any job.

[Matthew]

I got this one, Aisha.

[Joe Sushi]

They have the inside track for any job they want. Exactly, Gage. Thank you for that. That's white privilege. Whoa. And we have that. You sure do. I see.

[Chris Reavers]

Whoa.

[Joe Sushi]

I never realized this stuff. Yeah, you've really opened up my eyes. Well, I'm glad we've been able to enlighten you. The real question is, do you think you'll be acting differently from now on? I guarantee it. Step aside, please. We have white privilege.

[Chris Reavers]

Don't worry.

[John Heiss]

It's okay.

[Joe Sushi]

Don't. They steal a cop, we automatically assume we can take what we want. We don't have to worry about the police. It's okay. You didn't know. We didn't either. Good stuff. Now, this is what we were taught, sir. We're subverting existing paradigms. Whoa. This rule. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm glad we went to college. Damn. Like, now I have the skills for today's workplace.

[John Randall]

Okay.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Pretty good.

[Joe Sushi]

You think you'll be.

[John Randall]

They walk into a bakery and Beavis grabs an entire wedding cake. Ah.

[Matthew]

This is mine.

[Joe Sushi]

The teacher says, do you think you'll be using it? He says, you can count on it. Tom Holman gave another press conference this morning. Oh, my God. Another guy taking my idea. I wish more people would listen to it.

[Matthew]

Like the Hugh Charay plan.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah. Hugh Hewitt took my idea. And Hugh. Really polished.

[Chris Reavers]

Can you imagine if the President found out that it was your idea.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

And then he thanked you on tv.

[Joe Sushi]

Wouldn't that be great?

[Chris Reavers]

You would have to find a new house to live in.

[Joe Sushi]

Right.

[John Randall]

Right.

[Chris Reavers]

It is. It is your fault.

[Joe Sushi]

Be my fault.

[John Randall]

You wouldn't be able to stay in the state.

[Matthew]

So for Harmon now, this is the. The Home Charay plan.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah. He's going to withdraw 700 agents. They're needed elsewhere. Given the increase in unprecedented collaboration, he's been getting increasing help mostly I would say, outside the metro. We have a need for less law enforcement officers. I have announced, effective immediately, we will draw down 700 people. Effective today. That's great news for the Twin Cities. There's not much else to say here. Is there a further drawdown ahead? Homan made clear that this is just the start of reducing the federal presence in Minnesota. As long as local cooperation continues and attacks against agents stop.

[Chris Reavers]

That was my question. Is there going to be a drawdown on the attacks?

[Matthew]

Well, do protesters have a number? Do they have an ICE number that's acceptable for them? Is it 100? Is it 50?

[Chris Reavers]

They'll keep doing it, Matthew, as long as George keeps paying them.

[John Heiss]

Okay.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, now, evidence that they're paid is difficult to demonstrate. I was reading about this today and I came across something interesting. I believe this was in Alpha News Minnesota. Anti ICE activists get 3.3 million from a George Soros backed charity. It's a Minneapolis based outfit called Headwaters foundation for justice. It awarded 3,321,000 1300. Was that it? Was that right? 33 comma 321 comma 013 we're going to call it. 3,325,000 in funds and non cash assistance. This has been going on since 2014 to groups who now seek to monitor ICE or protest the agency. Sixteen activist groups mobilizing against immigration agents in Minnesota have one thing in common. Financial support from a nonprofit backed by the Soros family's Open Society Foundations. The Minneapolis based Headwaters foundation for justice awarded 3,325,000 in funds and non cash assistance since 2014 to groups that now seek to monitor ICE. This is according to a Daily Caller News foundation analysis of tax filings, activists, websites and their social media posts. Okay, I don't know anything about the Daily Caller. Here's what I would say. How do you spend 3 million 325 grand on protesters? Why is money needed? Whistles don't cost that much. That doesn't make sense to me. Who's getting the money?

[Matthew]

Frozen bottles of water.

[Chris Reavers]

I would Imagine. And I don't know, but I would just guess it's support stuff. Hotel rooms, food per diems, et cetera, et cetera.

[Joe Sushi]

The Headwaters foundation for justice is a Minneapolis based community foundation that invests in grassroots organizing across Minnesota. Our mission is amplify the power of community to advance equity and justice. Then again, they're all engaged in. They're getting paid. The people who run this are getting paid. Their job cannot be measured for any achievement. We do this through grant making programs that support organizations and groups on the front lines of social change. Each of our programs invites community members to learn about and lead the foundation's grant making work. They've been around since 1984. Since 1984, Headwaters has believed that those who directly experience society's injustices are the ones who know the path to collective liberation. We prioritize work led by and for black people, indigenous people and people of color through our four core values of advancing equity, demanding inclusion, transforming power, and trusting in community. All right, and then you can go look this up. Just google Headwaters Foundation.

[Chris Reavers]

Other things I would assume are lawyer costs, bail money, that sort of stuff.

[Joe Sushi]

Our work supports movements and systems that lead. Our work supports movements and systems change that lead to individual resiliency and community power. People who are most affected by inequity are often left out of decision making work. We insist on changing that nationally, regionally and locally. We grow power through community led grant making, donor education and leadership development. A community knows itself best and its people need to lead the way to collective liberation. Our job is to listen to and support the solutions that will improve life for all Minnesotans. Okay, see, if I'm about to make a fair statement, it would seem to me that given those goals, equity, demand inclusion, transform power and trust in community, they would be among those who don't believe in borders. Do you think that's a reasonable conclusion? Anyone staff? Anyone?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't think that was wrong. Yeah, yeah, I would generally agree with that.

[Joe Sushi]

So their intensity in their opposition to ICE is paramount to their beliefs. If in fact they don't believe anyone is illegal, I'm surprised they didn't throw in the stolen land thing. If they don't believe anyone is illegal, which is what it sounds like to me, it sounds like to me they don't believe anyone could possibly be illegal because they would just merely. Instead they would be victims of oppression. White supremacy, supremacy, patriarchy, privilege. Sure, yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm worried we're giving them too much credit for having beliefs.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, they have enough beliefs to get the Money from Soros.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. I think they believe in chaos and not having jobs.

[Joe Sushi]

And I just keep trying to draw this distinction.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, you're trying to make sense of it. That's the problem.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, the distinction I'm trying to draw is, are people in the Twin Cities, most principally in the Twin Cities, are they opposed opposing ICE because of the way ICE behaves, or are they opposing ICE because we've gone so far down a political path to reach the conclusion that no one here is illegal? Which is it?

[Chris Reavers]

Well, that's A, you mentioned A and B, and then C would be Trump, and I would say all of the above.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[John Heiss]

And I'm gonna somewhat disagree with part of that. I think you remember we ICE got more people out during the Obama presidency than during the Trump, and nobody complained. And I think perhaps the way ICE is going about it now is causing normal people, like, you know, who get on protest. That's why they're protesting. And as Kenny said, the Trump.

[Joe Sushi]

So when Obama did it, there was no contempt basically, in the country for Obama?

[John Heiss]

Well, it sounds like there was some even from Headwaters. Right. Because they.

[Joe Sushi]

They might have, but they didn't. They didn't seem to gain any purchase. We don't recall Headwaters being deeply involved in preventing the Obama administration from deporting anyone. I don't recall we ever really even knew that people among us were getting deported.

[John Heiss]

Correct.

[Chris Reavers]

Was the protest machine as strong then as it is now?

[Joe Sushi]

No. And there's where you could blame Trump. The contempt for Trump, I believe, is a big, big part obviously of the protests.

[John Heiss]

Yeah, Well, I think another part is, and this is just from talking to people I know, guys showing up with masks on, etc, etc, creates an image those people don't like and they're going to protest.

[Joe Sushi]

Right.

[John Heiss]

And that wasn't being done in 20, what, 14.

[Joe Sushi]

Right, right.

[John Heiss]

So I think it's also tactics that have created part of the issue.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, that's Then to. To answer it. But given that information, it sounds to me like you would say that still the majority of protesters in the Twin Cities believe in borders. They just don't believe in the way Trump's going about it. Is that where we are?

[Chris Reavers]

That's kind of why Holman, isn't he taking the roundabout road to saying just that we're changing our tactics and he's finding acceptance with that.

[Joe Sushi]

Yes. He is attempting to be an adult in the room. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. He is saying, look, there are too many here. We're withdrawing 700. They're needed elsewhere and we will continue the drawdown. If we are successful and we don't get attacked, well, you better also throw in also if we don't attack anybody.

[Chris Reavers]

He did say we will defend ourselves if attacked. We will defend ourselves in arrest and jail, etc.

[Joe Sushi]

Etc.

[Matthew]

Don't we have footage of 2014 when ICE came in to run down to Lake street or Hennepin Avenue? And were they wearing masks? Were they disguised? Like, there's got to be video.

[Joe Sushi]

I don't. When I don't remember anything. Like, I don't recall one thing, but.

[Matthew]

There must be some footage somewhere. I'd love to know if they.

[Chris Reavers]

Matthew. The first I remember would be during the first Trump administration. And I remember wondering how the people that voted for Trump, that, for instance, own turkey farms and hire illegals. I remember thinking, boy, that's a strange dichotomy to be in because now the workers are being arrested and they voted for President Trump.

[John Heiss]

Jump, John.

[Chris Reavers]

And that's the first memory I have of him.

[John Heiss]

Jory Sandberg, John Sandberg, acting director of ICE from 2013 to 2014, said he never saw an ICE agent ordering a mask during his tenure.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[Matthew]

What's their point now for doing that?

[Joe Sushi]

Well, they're maximizing horrible optics. Now, is that intentional or, you know.

[Chris Reavers]

Are they protecting themselves and their families?

[Joe Sushi]

Well, that's what they're claiming. But why didn't they have to protect themselves and their family 10 years ago?

[Chris Reavers]

Again, it goes right back to President Trump. I think. I think that's the key in all of this, people. It could be anything. It could be anything. If President Trump's name is attached to it, people are going to protest it.

[Joe Sushi]

Unidos Minnesota, formerly called Navigate Minnesota. They get some money. They got 90 grand to teach medical employees how to protect patients during ICE searches. Minnesota Freedom Fund's only Headwaters foundation grant was for an unspecified amount. The fund also drew support in 2020.

[Chris Reavers]

Go back, Joe. What does that mean? Protect patients during searches? Were you.

[Joe Sushi]

I don't know.

[Chris Reavers]

I've been stumbling on that for a while.

[Matthew]

Medical.

[Joe Sushi]

I don't know.

[Chris Reavers]

Is it to hide them? I don't understand.

[Joe Sushi]

Health care worker resistance training to teach medical employees how to protect patients during ICE searches. I don't know what that means. Yeah, nor do I. Minnesota Freedom Fund's only Headwaters foundation grant was for an unspecified amount. The Freedom Fund is the no bail people. The fund also drew support in 2020 from Kamala Harris, who encouraged the public to donate to bail out Black Lives Matter rioters. The Headwaters foundation also gave 25 grand to Mizna. I don't know what that is. 385 grand to the Greater Minnesota Workers Center, 10 grand to the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee, 171 grand to Voices for Racial justice and $318,500 to Out Front Minnesota. They. Okay, maybe I'm getting my question answered here. They get riot gear. Wait, wait a minute. Copal. Copal. That's an acronym. The Indigenous Protector Movement and MN8, formerly release. MN8 advocate for so called observers to allow immigration officials in prison. MN8 and Copal have a text chat and hotline that Minnesotans can use to summon observers during ICE encounters. An online constitutional observer handbook from Copal tells readers to wear an identifying badge and film agents but avoid physically interfering. The headwaters foundation awarded 360 grand for MNA through the years and 10 grand to Copal in January just last month. All right, keep.

[Chris Reavers]

Gotta keep going. Keep going. You're gonna.

[Joe Sushi]

Gender justice also invites viewers of its website to fill out a form for possible legal if they have endured or witnessed gender based mistreatment by immigration agents. The group has obtained reports of agents calling women slurs and they've been body shaming and misgendering, among other allegations, its legal director claimed. In Thursday testimony that would be last week to the Minnesota Senate, the headwaters foundation gave 62,500 to gender justice.

[Chris Reavers]

Line up. I mean can't we, can't we throw our names and let's get ourselves 500,000 such.

[Joe Sushi]

The Headwaters funded groups Aida Leeds, Awood center and CARE Minnesota focus much of their advocacy in support of Somali migrants, a large Minnesota population targeted for regional deportation due to welfare fraud scandals. CARE Minnesota's Somali born executive director attended the multiple Minneapolis and anti ice demonstrations over the past week. The chapter received 140 grand from Headwaters.

[Chris Reavers]

Here we go. Now everybody g ers listen closely as Joe's about to read.

[Joe Sushi]

Aida Leeds also provides political campaign training and previously recruited Somali born Democratic representative among Ilhan Omar to start running for public office. According to its website, Omar is a Fierce Critic of ICE's Minnesota Operations and was reluctant to condemn violence against agents. In a January 11 interview, Aida Leeds and the Awood center did not respond to the DCNS request for comment. The Headwaters foundation awarded 280 grand to IATA Leeds and 190 grand to the Awood Center. The Awood center seeks to hire a new employee for Anti ICE rapid response. Its new rapid response program will help prevent unlawful or coercive detentions, among other goals.

[Chris Reavers]

Now, when you read that paragraph about Ilhan Omar and you printed it out so you couldn't see it, the political campaign training was underlined and highlighted it and highlighted. So I clicked on it, and here's what I found. I ate a political campaign training. Are you interested in running for office this upcoming year? Well, you've come to the right place. To support potential candidates like you, our nonpartisan nonprofit organization will be hosting candidate training sessions through 2024 starting this February. And then at the very end of it, it says, stay tuned for 2026 sessions.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, they are partisan.

[Chris Reavers]

Very much so.

[Joe Sushi]

And that's directed to Somalis, I take it?

[Chris Reavers]

I think it is, yes. Yeah, but to me, that just says Hilhan is working for him. I think it's more than just training.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, it might be more accurate to say that Ill Ilhan has benefited from their support.

[Chris Reavers]

That's a much better way of playing it.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah. You've been in an accident lately.

[Matthew]

I have not.

[Joe Sushi]

That's a good thing. That's a good thing because when you're in one, you need Brad Sean Bryant personal injury attorneys because they're the best. If you're like me and many others, you may not know what to do if you're ever insured in an accident. You know, that's a good question. Basically, what would I do? I'd call my insurance guy. But then, you know, things get confusing. I'm not suggesting my guy would make it confusing, but the company gets into it and then, you know, what about your side of the story? Does that get lost? You need a team. Mike Bryan from Bradshaw and Brian will explain your rights, represent you and help you through a tough time. Mike's a big deal in this state for six consecutive years. A super lawyer recognized by Minnesota law and politics. That's the real deal. I hope you're never in an accident, but if you are, call Bradshaw and Bryant at 800-770-7008. So I would say if you're ever in an accident, you make two calls.

[Matthew]

What do you got?

[Joe Sushi]

Call your insurance agent and call Mike Bryant, 800-770-7008. Or go to MinnesotaPersonalJury.com your case evaluation is of no charge to you. And don't be part of the problem. Don't text and drive or drive distracted. That's just common sense. From Bradshaw and Br.

[John Heiss]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

And now a man who has never had a relationship with a tree.

[John Randall]

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[Matthew]

Let's go.

[John Randall]

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[Joe Sushi]

Okay? Okay, good.

[John Randall]

You see what I'm saying?

[Joe Sushi]

I do.

[John Randall]

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[Joe Sushi]

You got my email that I gave you. Which one? I gave you something extremely.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

So I am glad you guys mentioned Linda Keller. I decided a few years ago to give her a shot for getting taxes done because she advertised on your show. She is awesome. I concur. JP One of us for sure. Not only will she do your taxes, but you can call her any time of the year and ask her questions. Oh boy, is she really, really sad that she ever gave me her phone number, which for some of us is invaluable. Thank you garagelogic. And thank you, Lind Keller. For a small business owner, JP that's a great testament to Linda Keller and kellertaxservice.com and you know what, you know what? Get on the schedule right now. 320-352-0013. She's a GLER. She's the absolute best in the business. Or just visit kellertaxservice.com and please do what JP did and let her know that you heard about her. Here on the garagelogic podcast, here is John Heiss.

[John Heiss]

Thank you, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. Results still coming in last night. You guys know it was precinct caucuses.

[Joe Sushi]

Yep.

[John Heiss]

Results still coming in early this morning, but early returns highlighting the initial frontrunners in the race for governor. As of about 8 o' clock this morning, the Republican Party was reporting 72% of caucus results. House Speaker Lisa Damith leading the crowded field of candidates for the Governor's spot with 4565 votes. Kendall Quals was next at 3576. Seven and Mike Lindell third at 2401.

[Joe Sushi]

Wow. God almighty.

[Matthew]

He knew it to four digits.

[John Randall]

We number three. Where number three?

[John Heiss]

The party's 2022 gubernatorial nominee Scott Jensen was fourth with 853 votes.

[Joe Sushi]

The pillow guy beat Scott Jensen by 1500 votes.

[Matthew]

What's that telling the doc?

[John Heiss]

He was. Scott actually was fourth, but he was on with the other folks who Hit undecided. There was 838 undecideds.

[Matthew]

But I don't know what I want to do.

[John Heiss]

Dfl, on the other hand, hasn't reported any straw poll results as of this morning, but they said about 30,000 people showed up to caucuses last evening. The latest KSTP survey USA poll, by the way, done last week, shows Democratic gubernatorial candidate Amy Klobuchar with an early advantage over any of the Republican candidates. The poll shows her with a double digit lead over all of them. Jensen being the closest. Klobuchar leading Jensen 49 to 35%. Political watchers do expect things to tighten up some once a candidate, one candidate is chosen by the Republican Party.

[Chris Reavers]

John, I missed it. Did you say something about Lisa?

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, she's leading by a wide margin.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay. All right. Sorry about that. I had s in my ears for gov, right?

[Joe Sushi]

That's right. Correct.

[John Heiss]

The same poll rook says there is no clear frontrunner for either the Democratic or Republican nominees for Senate. So it is hard to do, according to the poll, hypothetical head to head matchups. So basically they just listed them in order no matter what party they were with right now. Leading angie Craig and Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan. Craig with 20%, Flanagan with 19%. Republican Michelle Tafoya was the pick of 13%, making her the highest ranked Republican, well ahead of Royce White, who won the 2024 Senate nomination.

[Joe Sushi]

Yes. You in the back.

[John Randall]

Permission to approach the bench, you, Honor.

[Joe Sushi]

Yes.

[John Randall]

I have a question. So let's say Lisa Daymuth is elected governor, which would be fantastic. Lisa seems like she's got the right agenda and the right mindset to lead the state of Minnesota out of this fraud intensive hellhole that we've become. What position underneath that cabinet would you give Mr. Pillow?

[Joe Sushi]

None of zero.

[John Randall]

Did you put him in charge of zero?

[Joe Sushi]

Nothing.

[Chris Reavers]

Let's say you had to keep them busy.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, nothing.

[John Randall]

Got to give him something to do. Just make like what we do with Patrick department. Let him do Monday night support Slinkies.

[Chris Reavers]

Or go down to the shop and separate these nuts and bolts.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay.

[Chris Reavers]

That's my first job in a shop was to sit down and separate nuts.

[Joe Sushi]

And you got a factory. Just hang out there.

[Matthew]

Any snipe, let us know.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Take inventory on the feathers in your factory.

[John Randall]

All the left handed scissors. Yeah, right.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[John Heiss]

Count of feathers this morning, as you already talked about, Joe, White House borders are. Tom Holman said that 700 federal agents will be leaving Minnesota after what he called significant progress and cooperation between state and federal officials. Holman said an unprecedented number of counties were cooperating with the federal government to coordinate the transfer of immigration targets to federal officers from county jails after the drawdown, Homan told reporters. That would leave about 2,000 ice and border Patrol agents in the state. A coalition of educators and school districts trying to block federal immigration enforcement at or near Minnesota schools, a lawsuit argues federal immigration enforcement has disrupted students education in Minnesota, endangered students and driven families away from the classroom. Plaintiffs in the lawsuit, which include Education Minnesota, Duluth Public Schools and Fridley Public Schools, allege that the operation by ICE has struck fear among students and families and forced districts to close schools, cancel activities or shift to remote learning. Attendance in several Minnesota school districts dropped sharply in early January amid the heightened federal enforcement activity. Meanwhile, eight more federal prosecutors in Minnesota are in the process of leaving the U.S. attorney's office. Their exit comes after six prosecutors, as we've talked about before, including the man in charge of Minnesota's fraud investigations, Assistant U.S. attorney Joe Thompson, departed due to mounting pressure from the Department of Justice to investigate Renee Good's widow. Frustrations inside the office have also been mounting because of how the office is handling the killings of Good and Alex predicted. And according to sources, Anna Voss is one of eight prosecutors included in the second wave of resignations. According to multiple reports, Voss, as the civil division chief, was the point person for most wrongful detention petitions the office has handled, of which there have been hundreds. These resignations, of course, appear to be hurting the fraud investigations in Minnesota. And this morning a group of mayors from across Minnesota called for accountability and reform to try to clean up fraud in the state. During a news conference, Cross Leg Mayor Jackson, Per first and others discuss the financial impacts they described in a December letter as stemming from fraud, unchecked, unchecked spending and inconsistent fiscal management in St. Paul. Where does all of this with the investigators now leaving the fraud investigations? 14 investigators going and During a news conference Monday, Minnesota Department of Human Services Inspector General James Clark said he hasn't heard from the U.S. attorney's office about the ongoing fraud investigations or any possible new charges since that first wave of resignations. Resignations. Now, with a total of 14 prosecutors leaving judicial experts and saying it could take a long time to rebuild the office and get back to the fraud.

[Matthew]

Who does this benefit if these guys go away? These guys and gals go away? Are they who, who are they going to be replaced with? Trump appointees? Or how does this head of the.

[Chris Reavers]

U.S. the attorney for Minnesota would do the hiring there, would he not?

[Joe Sushi]

I don't.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, they're they're not appointees, Matthew. The only appointee is the. The head of the division. The rest of them are just merely employees.

[John Heiss]

Who is the head now? We should.

[Joe Sushi]

Rosen.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. Thank you, God.

[John Heiss]

Why don't we take a quick break here and see what the rookie has to tell us.

[Matthew]

You know, with years of intelligence under my belt.

[Chris Reavers]

Don't bait me. Do not bait me.

[John Randall]

That's okay.

[Matthew]

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[Chris Reavers]

They have been for forever.

[Matthew]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Matthew]

You know exactly where they are, don't you?

[Chris Reavers]

I do.

[Matthew]

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[John Randall]

Up, crying out loud.

[Matthew]

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[John Randall]

You know what? I was doing this when rookie was doing the months and I said, I gave rook the nod, like, let's see how many months it takes for Joe to lift his head up off the table.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, I finally got got to me.

[Matthew]

It was nonverbal. It took you till January. So thanks for listening.

[John Heiss]

In national and international news, the House voting 217 to 214 yesterday, passing the 1.2 trillion dollar government spending package ending a partial shutdown that had begun on Saturday.

[Joe Sushi]

But they didn't do the Huray plan. No, they weren't here yesterday, John. We had a plan, me and. Me and what the hell. On what to do about immigration, but we don't need to review it because it won't be done.

[Matthew]

You and Hugh.

[John Heiss]

Hugh. Hugh Sheree. The agreement funds several major agencies through September and the Department of homeland security through February 13th. Democrats will now try to negotiate reforms to Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection, two agencies involved in the deaths of the citizens. Here in Minnesota, Democrats are pushing for a uniform Code of conduct, requirements that agents will wear body cameras. By the way, Tom Holman said this morning all agents here will be wearing body cameras. They also would like them to remain unmasked on duty and obtain warrants to conduct a raid, among other changes. Speaker Mike Johnson has reportedly rejected most of those bids.

[John Randall]

You know, along the same lines of the sushiray plan. We have breaking news. Are you ready, Joe? A Los Angeles law firm, Sanai Law, they are the top eviction firm in the entire country, is now offering its services pro bono to the Tongva tribe to evict Billie eilish from her $14 million LA home, stating her admission that she lives on stolen land and it gives the tribe the right to the property.

[John Heiss]

Yep.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, I said it should be a law. If you say we live on stolen land, you must give up your property.

[John Randall]

So thank you very much, Sanai Law, for doing. Doing the work of the people.

[John Heiss]

Former President Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reached an agreement yesterday with House Republicans to testify in the House investigation into Jeffrey Epstein this month. Hillary Clinton will testify before the House Oversight Committee February 26th. Bill Clinton will appear February 27th. It'll mark the first time that lawmakers compelled a former president to testify. President Trump doubling down on his call for the Republican Party to nationalize voting in the United.

[Joe Sushi]

That cannot happen. What do you think could win an election governed by Trump? I bet Trump might win possibility.

[Matthew]

Yeah, maybe 51 to 40.

[Joe Sushi]

That can't happen. That's Article 1, Section 4 or 5 of the Constitution. The elections are run by the states. The founders put that in there precisely because they were worried about guys like Trump.

[John Heiss]

Trump said Tuesday he believed the federal government should, quote, get involved in elections that are riddled with corruption, reiterating his position, the federal government should usurp state laws by exerting control over local elections. Those remarks came after The White House tried to walk back his earlier comments from a day earlier that his party should nationalize elections. They were the latest iteration of his unsubstantiated claims that US Elections are rigged. During a podcast interview with Dan Bongino, his former deputy FBI director, on Monday, the president called for Republican officials to take over voting procedures in 15 states, although he did, did not name those states.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay, a couple things.

[Chris Reavers]

Haven't the Democrats already done that, Joe?

[John Heiss]

No.

[Joe Sushi]

A couple of things.

[Chris Reavers]

No.

[Joe Sushi]

If you, if you think that's a good idea, it's not going to be a good idea. If you don't like who's in charge, your day will come. If you're in the cult right now and you think this is a good idea that Trump should nationalize the election, it's not. You're going to face a day when that's not a good idea.

[Chris Reavers]

But isn't that how all the Democrats were voted in, in Minnesota and why we are the way we are?

[Matthew]

The guys from Georgia?

[John Heiss]

I'd love an explanation of that, Kenny.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, Kenny, you're gonna have to explain.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm not sure what I said, to be honest.

[Matthew]

I saw one of the, I was rage baiting Georgia, said, why doesn't he go ahead and check 2014, 2018, why not? Why does he only want specific things checked rather than every year?

[Joe Sushi]

My, my point I think was missed. If you think this is a great idea, it's not going to be a great idea when you don't like who's in charge.

[Matthew]

When Biden, When Biden.

[John Heiss]

Listen, there's a lot of things going on right now that you could say that about. This is not the only, only issue that you can say that about, by the way. So far a lot of members of Congress, including leading Republicans, are saying no. John Thune is the majority leader Republican from South Dakota. He said, I am not in favor.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, no, they can't be otherwise, just tear up the Constitution doesn't mean anything.

[Matthew]

Does he have the here, does he have the ear of anybody?

[Joe Sushi]

No Congress in his party.

[John Randall]

John, when you say a lot of philosophy things, give me a top.

[Matthew]

A lot of people like Trump.

[Joe Sushi]

Let me grab now, Chris, is rage baiting.

[Chris Reavers]

Because what we say matters, right?

[Joe Sushi]

It really, it really doesn't matter.

[John Randall]

We're bending the ear of the American public, Joe.

[Joe Sushi]

No, I guess we're not.

[John Heiss]

I can't believe you guys ever thought it did. But, you know, that's just me.

[Chris Reavers]

You know, my problem is, I'm going to be honest with you. I watched a Bob Davis podcast this morning. Do you remember how Bob was so politically engaged and every day he was fighting the good fight? He is now the complete opposite. And he's the happiest man in the whole wide world.

[Joe Sushi]

Is he doing a podcast on Cats or something?

[Chris Reavers]

He's a nomad, Joe. All he does is travel around the United States and enjoy life. And it's really. When you watch his podcast, it's like taking a cleansing breath. It's so fun to see Bob so happy.

[Joe Sushi]

How's he buying gas?

[Chris Reavers]

He's got a deal going. It's a pretty cool deal.

[Joe Sushi]

All right.

[John Randall]

My favorite. Bob was one of the first years I worked with you guys and he had the drill baby, drill T shirt at the Minnesota State Fair. Do you guys remember that?

[Chris Reavers]

I sure do.

[John Randall]

And a woman, I would suggest it was a prematurely gray haired 42 year old from the suburbs bought it just to rip it to shreds. And I went, huh, this is what I'm getting involved with. All right, I can handle this.

[Chris Reavers]

Thanks for the 20 bucks.

[John Randall]

Yeah, thank you.

[Chris Reavers]

Do whatever you want with that.

[Joe Sushi]

I was always puzzled by him because it seemed like everything confused him.

[Matthew]

Well, sports stuff for sure.

[Chris Reavers]

He has. Traveling in an ambulance that wasn't converted. He slept on the floor in the ambulance, but now he bought a bigger fire truck that was a command center style fire truck.

[Joe Sushi]

Oh, yeah, Cool.

[Chris Reavers]

And he travels the country in this just. He was in. His podcast this morning was about Death Valley and he's just so happy and just soaking in life. It's wonderful.

[Matthew]

So what does he do? Sit in the fire truck in a hammock, smoking a cigar, having a lemonade made and.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, no, but yes. I mean, that's how happy he is. Okay. Yeah.

[Matthew]

Good for him.

[John Heiss]

I've told you guys this a million times, but I will always love Bob Davis because he is the fella that hired me first for full time duties at Hubbard Broadcasting.

[Joe Sushi]

And he.

[Chris Reavers]

Would you agree, John?

[Joe Sushi]

He actually at one point had a position of authority.

[Chris Reavers]

He was super intense, Joe. He was into commercial radio when he was a teenager in Chicago.

[Joe Sushi]

The queue or whatever it was.

[John Randall]

Yeah, I love what he does.

[Matthew]

His IDs, Joe.

[Joe Sushi]

Yes.

[John Randall]

Sorry, Johnny. Joe, if. If utter peace, harmony and sanctuary was all it took for you to sleep on the floor of a vehicle.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Would you take that right now?

[Joe Sushi]

Yes.

[John Heiss]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

Really?

[Chris Reavers]

You should watch the podcast. You should watch the one that came out this morning.

[Matthew]

I gotta see his truck because I did like his.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, it's so cool. Matthew going down the rabbit hole. So cool.

[John Randall]

Don't bite me. And Joe's going to go sleep on the.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, I got a truck in the driveway. I'm going to sleep on the floor.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh my God. He. No, he's so happy. Joe, we can't. I can't take that away from him. We. None of us can.

[Joe Sushi]

John, do you have more?

[John Heiss]

A man? Yeah, I got plenty. I got plenty. Joe man who plotted to kill President Trump at one of his Florida golf courses during the 2024 election. Sentenced to life in prison this morning, the maximum penalty for trying to assassinate presidential candidate you'll remember. He is 59 year old Ryan Ruth, an itinerant building contractor from North Carolina. 12 member jury convicted Ruth last September after an unusual trial in which he represented himself. Jury also found him guilty of assaulting a federal officer for pointing his semiautomatic rifle at a Secret Service agent and of several firearms violations. Last month, federal prosecutors recommended a life sentence, saying that Routh had plotted painstakingly to stake out the president at the Trump International Golf Club, West Palm Beach.

[Joe Sushi]

Was he the guy hiding behind the tree that barely concealed him? Correct.

[Chris Reavers]

Like a cartoon.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah. Could see the gun in his hat and the whole deal.

[Chris Reavers]

His belly sticking out.

[John Heiss]

The death knell for newspapers continues to ring Washington Post announcing mass layoffs this morning dealing another blow to a storied media company in a newsroom that's reached a breaking point. Executive editor Matt Murray and human resources chief Wayne Connell sent an email to staffers this morning telling employees to stay home today but attend a meeting via Zoom, which the Washington Post leadership announced significant actions across the company. Those actions include shutting down almost the entire sports section, closing the book section and canceling the daily Post reports podcast. One of the most severe cuts comes in the form of a restructuring of the Post's Metro desk, which covers D.C. maryland and Virginia. The Post's international coverage will also be markedly reduced, although some bureaus outside the US will stay open. In total, the cuts account for 1/3 of the newspaper's overall staff. A source familiar with the matter I.

[Joe Sushi]

Wonder if it's occurs to Bezos that maybe he would have been better off spending 75 million on the post as opposed to investing in Melania's movie.

[John Heiss]

An outdoor apparel retailer. Eddie Bauer expected to close its stores in North America and file for bankruptcy. The company, whose namesake opened its first store in Seattle in 1920, operates more than 200 stores here in North America, down from more than 600 in the 1990s. Companies manufacturing wholesale or e commerce operations would continue. Catalyst Brands, which owns the rights to operate Eddie Bauer Stores is the entity filing for bankruptcy. Number of parties are expected to bid for the rights to operate some or all of the stores. According to Business Insider, a winning bidder would then be able to license the rights to Authentic Brands Group and potentially keep stores open.

[Matthew]

I've had the same Eddie Bauer jacket that I got from my then girlfriend. Girlfriend now wife for the last 35 years.

[Joe Sushi]

Thank you for sharing, John.

[Chris Reavers]

Dumb that down for me. Explain what you just said.

[John Heiss]

What? They're closing all their stores.

[Chris Reavers]

I didn't understand. It can be purchased the individual stores.

[John Heiss]

Correct.

[Chris Reavers]

So it'd be like the people that bought the Sears stores when Sears went belly up.

[John Heiss]

Yep.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay. All right.

[John Heiss]

Concert announcement.

[John Randall]

Am I allowed to ask more questions about the coat? He was gifted. Tinted?

[Joe Sushi]

No.

[Matthew]

Brown leather?

[Chris Reavers]

No.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[John Heiss]

I had a great Eddie Bauer Explorer. But anyway. Concert announcement.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm an L.L. bean guy myself at American Ford.

[Matthew]

Ben Frothingham.

[John Heiss]

No, I didn't. I bought it up here. Got it. The Ford dealership.

[Chris Reavers]

I only wear L.L. bean long johns. That's the only one.

[Joe Sushi]

No. You're guilty of. What's the time in the temp? Wow.

[John Heiss]

Concert announcement. Country star Tim McGraw will take his show outdoors with the help of friends when he headlines target field August 23rd.

[John Randall]

Target field? Come on. He's done it like 15 times.

[Joe Sushi]

So what?

[John Heiss]

Tickets go on sale in the morning.

[Joe Sushi]

Target Field.

[John Heiss]

Has he?

[John Randall]

I love McGraw but go to the Shakopee deal at Target Field.

[John Heiss]

He'll be joined by veteran Ax, the Chicks and Lady A. As well as 49 Winchester, who actually is a really good rock.

[John Randall]

Actually that lineup's pretty good.

[John Heiss]

Timothy Wayne.

[Joe Sushi]

The Chicks are one of them. Chicks blew up. She's really huge.

[Chris Reavers]

Why did they change? Didn't they? Weren't they the dicks?

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

They got rid of Dixie.

[Joe Sushi]

Dixie was too. That was traumatic.

[John Heiss]

Confederate.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

And who were the other ones that also changed their names?

[John Heiss]

Lady A. They're also performing at this one. They were.

[Chris Reavers]

Lady and they were. They were also. Okay.

[John Heiss]

Okay.

[Joe Sushi]

Can't you say you got an anti bellum house anymore? What's wrong with that?

[John Heiss]

I don't know.

[Joe Sushi]

Is that just means post war. Doesn't it? Isn't Bellum War.

[John Randall]

But with the Dixie Chicks. Now the Chicks. Wasn't that all because of. They went after Bush.

[John Heiss]

They went after Bush.

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[John Heiss]

They've actually. They don't tour a lot anymore. But they've sold out the grandstand here three times at the fair.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah. In the last one of them. Just a monster.

[John Heiss]

Jeez.

[Chris Reavers]

Do any of do any of their fans know anything about politics?

[Joe Sushi]

No. Yeah.

[John Heiss]

So what other. What other music note? Chuck Negron, founding member of Three Dog Night and the guy that sang a lot of their hits, died. He was 83, surrounded by his family. He had COPD. If you're not familiar with Chuck's name. He sang Joy to the World. He sang one. He's saying Old Fashioned Love Song. He's saying the show must go on. He's saying Easy to Be Home Hard. He sang a lot of their hits.

[Joe Sushi]

Where were you on Three Dog Night, John?

[John Heiss]

I thought Three Dog Night made great records. Great records.

[John Randall]

Did we just play above?

[Chris Reavers]

Would you call them underrated?

[John Heiss]

I would call them underrated because they're. They're. I think they're seen more as like a backup band lead singer.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

I brought in a bunch of Three Dog Night for us to.

[Joe Sushi]

Who. Who's the missing mom of the morning TV host Savannah?

[John Randall]

Gus.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay. Who's the morning TV host? Coast Savannah. But her mother is missing in Tucson.

[John Randall]

Correct.

[Joe Sushi]

I have a question about that. Serious question. I guess I'm addressing it to the newsman and calling on all his years of news experience. Yeah, there's a lot of people missing. Is that making the news only because this. Her daughter's on tv. Oh, certainly.

[John Heiss]

Yeah, of course. I mean, we would know about it without.

[John Randall]

Well, because there also. Is it a ransom associated with this.

[Joe Sushi]

Woman, but there's a lot of that.

[Chris Reavers]

Going on and evidence of a break in.

[Matthew]

Well, there could be a potential. She could have been a potential target as a result of being Savannah's mother.

[John Heiss]

If I would like to go back just for one minute to Chuck Negron, because I have his autobiography here, which I have read and I hate to be sorted, but he tells a story in there. Maybe you've heard this story at the height of their popularity, Chuck, like the women. Okay. Who did to the point of he. He had an injury to his swimsuit area. Oh, wow. And the doctor. Doctor told him to stop.

[Chris Reavers]

He broke it. Huh.

[John Heiss]

And he didn't stop.

[Matthew]

Started on fire.

[John Heiss]

It. Well, it. I don't know how to put this. It tore open. It tore open. Okay. They had to. They had to stitch it up. And in the book, he's. He says, I was.

[Chris Reavers]

So was it like putting a splint on it? Did they have to get popsicle sticks or a ruler and tape it up like a bush fix?

[John Heiss]

He said, well, it did. It did.

[Chris Reavers]

You're out in the woods.

[John Heiss]

He said it healed. But he was so embarrassed by that story.

[Joe Sushi]

For many Years did it heal crooked.

[John Heiss]

And eventually he found it amusing. He said he finally turned in his own brain. Or instead of being embarrassed, he was amused.

[Chris Reavers]

So, John, before we wrap up here, I do have a question about you. Yesterday you were not here. I am wondering if you went to Iowa yesterday.

[John Heiss]

I did not. Why? What was it?

[Chris Reavers]

Do you understand that reference? February 3rd.

[John Heiss]

Oh, well, that was an Iowa. Was it?

[Chris Reavers]

That was the day the music.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, that was Iowa. They played the surf.

[John Heiss]

Clear Lake. Yes, Iowa.

[Joe Sushi]

Clear Lake.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[John Heiss]

Okay. No, I did not.

[Joe Sushi]

Okay, what was the guy's name? Buddy Hackett.

[John Heiss]

Buddy.

[Joe Sushi]

Buddy Holly. Buddy.

[John Heiss]

That's it. I'm coming through there right now. I suppose you know like Buddy Holly. Either. Or Elvis.

[Joe Sushi]

God, they knew a few.

[Chris Reavers]

You know what, Joe? It's impossible to underestimate you.

[Josh Arnold]

I like that.

[John Randall]

He's got a great list are fantastic. I I have a question about the. The gentleman with the injured swimsuit area.

[John Heiss]

Yes, sir.

[Chris Reavers]

When you're married, there's no chance at all you don't have to worry about.

[John Randall]

I understand that but however, when it's that, when it's that injured. The term undefeated really does know no bounds. Right? It's just like.

[Chris Reavers]

You know what?

[John Randall]

I understand why he played hurdle one plate. One's going this way, the other's going that way.

[Chris Reavers]

You know what? Joe's right. He's like a hockey player.

[Joe Sushi]

He's not going to let anything he played hurt.

[John Heiss]

I'm going to give you some more details about this which I'm sure Joe is thrilled about. He's with Three Dog Night. He was. Was incredibly handsome. You've seen the guy with the mustache and Three Dog Nights. Women literally were throwing themselves at him. And this occurred when he was having relations with a Miss America contestant. So he probably couldn't say to himself no, that might be my question.

[Matthew]

Was this nickname for it like Jeremiah.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you suppose that Miss America went around bragging that she was the one?

[John Heiss]

I I. Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

What's the time in the T. Kemp.

[Matthew]

Was a good friend of mine.

[Joe Sushi]

I'd rather read a book.

[John Heiss]

Hoyt Axton wrote that rook, just so you know.

[Joe Sushi]

Oh, he did. Are we gonna take a little time out?

[John Randall]

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[John Heiss]

Next.

[Joe Sushi]

Here we go.

[John Heiss]

It's the end of the world as.

[Joe Sushi]

We know it, and he feels fine. Joe Sucere.

[Matthew]

This is petty.

[Joe Sushi]

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[John Randall]

I can't believe that. That's an absolute steal.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, I told you I wanted to check on it. And you verified it.

[John Randall]

Yes, that alone, you don't even have to show up, just buy a ticket.

[Joe Sushi]

Well, I would prefer people show up.

[John Randall]

Well, of course, but that alone is worth it.

[Joe Sushi]

To purchase tickets, visit Mingolf Show. That's one word. MN mingolfshow.com and remember, with each ticket purchase, you get access to 15 free greens. Free passes the 13th through the 15th at the Minneapolis Convention Center. The North American Banking Company, Minnesota. A golf show. All right. May I tell you that it's only because they come to us that time. Well, you. You screwed around so much that we lost a lot of time between Pizza Luce, by the way, that's that fufu stuff.

[John Randall]

Do not you dare rip pizza.

[Joe Sushi]

Maybe I'm thinking of a different one.

[Chris Reavers]

You have must.

[Joe Sushi]

Has it got any meat on it?

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, my lord.

[Matthew]

This was a meatloaf.

[Joe Sushi]

So wait a minute. When you were absent here, you were running over there to eat?

[Matthew]

Yeah. Do you see how, like, I brought a piece of paper over to pretend like, oh, I've got this Important document. Just threw it away right away.

[Joe Sushi]

I didn't see it. Wait a minute.

[Chris Reavers]

They have Pizza Lucci up in radio.

[Matthew]

They had a big Pavic museum, and.

[John Randall]

He'S about to drive down.

[Joe Sushi]

Wait a minute. Is it up there or over here?

[Matthew]

No, it's up there in the. By Gail's office.

[John Randall]

That's why Gail came to say hi.

[Chris Reavers]

I have my pizza Luce or order saved in my phone. Every time I go down there, I order the same things.

[Joe Sushi]

Only because they come to it. Yes. Yeah.

[John Randall]

Based upon your question from about a minute and a half, I don't even.

[Joe Sushi]

Remember what it was.

[John Randall]

So do you think that there are people out there that make pizza that doesn't have meat on it?

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[John Randall]

Okay.

[Joe Sushi]

There's somebody that makes.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, no, it's the hippie lettuce and stuff.

[John Randall]

Oh, like a vegan pizza.

[Joe Sushi]

Whatever. Only because they come to us. Only because they come to us from Kai Waka, New Zealand. From the traveling linemans who [e-mail] it was on this day, February 4th. Well, on this day in 1803, the Reverend William T. Boutwell was born in Lydenborough, New Hampshire. In 1832, he accompanied Henry R. Schoolcraft on a trip guided by the Ojibwe leader Ozawinblu Thing that confirmed Lake Itasca as the source of the Mississippi. Boutwell supplied the Latin words from which Schoolcraft named the Lake Veritas. He also served as missionary to Ojibwe people in various Minnesota locations until 1847, when he moved to Stillwater. And that's where he died on October 11, 1890. On this day, Feb.4 in 1893, Senator William B. Dean offered a resolution in the Minnesota Senate recommending that the wild lady slipper or moccasin flower be named the state flower. The resolution was later adopted by both Senate and House. Following the discovery that this species of lady slipper does not grow in Minnesota, a new resolution was adopted in 1902, changing the state flower to the pink and white lady slipper.

[Chris Reavers]

Hmm.

[Joe Sushi]

On this day, Joe, today is February 4th. In 1952, the Citizens League was formed in Minneapolis. An independent, non partisan organization, the League involves citizens in studying public issues and developing policy solutions at the local, metropolitan and state levels. And on this day in sports disappointment.

[John Randall]

History, who would we lose to on February?

[Joe Sushi]

On February 4th. On this day in 2002, the Minnesota Supreme Court refused Major League Baseball's appeal of their ruling to force the Twins to play out their lease. The Supreme Court refused MLB's appeal because.

[John Randall]

They wanted to contract.

[Joe Sushi]

They refused. They know.

[John Heiss]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

They said you can't contract.

[John Randall]

No, they said you have to. You have to fulfill your lease, right?

[Joe Sushi]

Yep. On this day, you Love the Dome.

[John Heiss]

Feb.4.

[Joe Sushi]

What a dump that was. On this day, Feb.4, 2007, former Vikings defensive coordinator Tony Dungy won Super Bowl 51 as head coach of the Colts in Miami. Is that 51? XL? One XLI.

[John Randall]

That's the Prince Super Bowl.

[Joe Sushi]

51.

[John Randall]

Yes.

[Matthew]

No.

[John Randall]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

No, no, I'm X. X is 50.

[Joe Sushi]

Is an L10. No. Oh, there'd be 61. No, no. X, L, I.

[John Randall]

51. So 51.

[Matthew]

But the L x before the L means minus 10.

[John Randall]

I got you, Ken.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

As long as I get the diamond.

[Chris Reavers]

Attempt, I have something to add.

[Joe Sushi]

50. 51. I'm going with 51. X is 50. Then you got an L. That's 10 years. And then an I. That's one XL one at 51.

[Matthew]

Making it.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe, you're the reason instructions have pictures.

[John Heiss]

41. XLI is Roman numeral for the number number 41.

[Matthew]

Because the X in front of the L means you subtract 10.

[John Heiss]

That's correct.

[Joe Sushi]

Rook is what's the L?

[Matthew]

50.

[Joe Sushi]

Oh, L is 50.

[Matthew]

Yeah. X is 10.

[Joe Sushi]

41. It was.

[Matthew]

Thank you.

[John Heiss]

Yeah.

[Joe Sushi]

Why'd you tell me that?

[Chris Reavers]

Are you done?

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah, I am.

[Chris Reavers]

We are.

[Joe Sushi]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Taping. Recording a brand new news from the Krabby Coffee shop today, and we are talking about bears. Who?

[Joe Sushi]

The animal?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Joe Sushi]

I love bears.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Joe Sushi]

I think they're in the pig family.

[Matthew]

Do you have a specific brown? Black?

[Joe Sushi]

I don't. I'm not sure about.

[Chris Reavers]

There is a lady in Wisconsin in the northwest corner in 1963, face down a black bear of over 600 pounds and pumped three rounds from a 30. 30. A Winchester. 30. 30 into that thing. And she still holds the record for the youngest person to kill the biggest black bear ever.

[Joe Sushi]

Wow.

[Chris Reavers]

We're going to talk to her and we're going to talk about what to do. Matthew and I would like your advice. What to do if you're being pursued by a bear. What would you do? You and your family being chased by a bear?

[Matthew]

Push down the closest member of the family while I'm running.

[Chris Reavers]

You don't have to be the fastest.

[Matthew]

That's what I told Matthew when we were in Florida. We're at the gator thing. Pick up Gabe and run like hell. He said, why do I have to pick up Gabe? I said, it'll slow you down.

[Chris Reavers]

You don't run, you're gonna fight a Black bear. If it's brown, you lay down. If it's black, you stand and fight. If it's white, you dead sucker.

[Joe Sushi]

Thank you.

[John Randall]

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[Matthew]

Matthew Kenny, I just want clarification. If, if a, if a bear is standing opposite you, I thought you were just to be quiet and do whatever he tells you to do. Maybe that's different.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay, there's no bear means at the glory, right?

[John Randall]

No bear meat, glory holes. It is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free, Yes, I use the word free. 48 Minute Financial Consult again with zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, is it over for software.

[Josh Arnold]

It's all over.

[Joe Sushi]

It's all over.

[Josh Arnold]

Any, any company that's associated with software or has software. You don't need it. Don't need it anymore. All you need is Anthropod or chat or OpenAI's chat GPT maybe, maybe Google or Alphabet's Gemini. And that's it. That's all you need. You can duplic, you can duplicate Windows with it. Don't need Microsoft. Go sell Microsoft. You're not going to need your customer relationship management software anymore. It's all going to be available on, on any of these AI platforms. Go sell salesforce.com go sell service. The software as service companies are in not only a bear market, they are approaching an extreme bear market and there's, and these stocks are down anywhere from 20 to 50% from their highs. And that's just in a few months. Right now these stocks are Persona non grata despite and I say despite positive earnings coming from many of these these companies heck yesterday and this this company which is a software company, it's a data analytics company, it has a lot of government contracts, it's been expanding its commercial business but it is one of the companies that is able to to utilize artificial intelligence to only make better decisions but help them significantly make better decisions and particularly when it comes to defense capability. That's Palantir again Palantir for the quarter in a row beat estimates candidly increase their their guidance going forward even got a upgrades and stock is down today about 12%. This this to me for this company makes or I'll say this kind of sell off makes no no sense what so whatsoever other than thrown in with a group of other companies that is being pummeled. Many of these companies are being pummeled because they're inside a change traded fund market symbol IGV that has been used by not only individual investors but also institutional investors as a way to hold entire basket of software companies. And there are tremendous amounts of leverage or borrowed money in many of these names. Add to it the number of private equity firms or business development companies that have been funding software software companies that are much smaller and these business development companies which are sold based on the their yield alone. Business development companies BDC sold on their yield alone are now going to be showing much higher yields even though those yields will likely not be staying. And the private equity companies and some of the private credit companies whether it's the private equity firms Palo kkr, private credit firms like Blue Al have also seen their their stock drop and drop significantly on fears these software companies will not necessarily necessarily be able to make it in in the world of AI there are going to be many many winners. I believe Palantir will be a winner. I believe you know Microsoft, I'm not a shareholder of Microsoft as I am in Palantir. Microsoft is not going out of out of business. Might be out of favor right now. Not going out of out of business sales salesforce.com not going out of business nor is serving service service now. But these stocks have just been pummeled and pummeled unnecessarily. When is the selling going to stop? I I don't know. But as long as the margin clerks are out out calling people are on hefty margin Selling selling could could continue. Is money going elsewhere? Yes, it it is going elsewhere. Some of it's going into names like Coca Cola or Walmart which recently you know hit a new high. Some of it is returning to.

[Chris Reavers]

Apple.

[Josh Arnold]

And some money is just kept in short term Treasuries right now like Igov 0 to 3 month treasury with a, with a nice oh and then we've got some earnings still coming from the likes of Alphabet or Google tonight and Amazon tomorrow software right now not necessarily the place to be. Private credit and private equity not the place to be. And banks that feed into that like Goldman Sachs not the place to be as as we speak but at some point could be later this month you'll be able to utilize some of the cash that I've said keep on hand to take advantage of these these very good companies that are on sale.

[John Randall]

Excellent advice as always Mr. Money Talk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-6O8 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugar coated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

[Joe Sushi]

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[John Heiss]

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[John Randall]

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[Joe Sushi]

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