3/23 Proposed new bill threatens the classic car community

Summary

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Garage Logic Podcast: "3/23 Proposed new bill threatens the classic car community"

Date: March 23, 2026
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor")
Team: Chris Reivers, Kenny Olson, John Haidt, Matthew, and others

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Episode Overview

Main Theme:
This episode dives into the controversy surrounding Minnesota House File 3865—a proposed bill that threatens the freedoms of classic car owners and enthusiasts. The Garage Logic crew, deeply embedded in the classic car community, examines what the bill really says, the potential implications for daily drivers with collector plates, and what this means for car culture in Minnesota. Broader themes include government overreach, taxation, and the ever-present tension between citizens and new regulatory proposals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ice-Out Records and Garage Logic Banter

(03:04–05:23)

• Joe brings back the long-missed "ice-out" updates, recapping the earliest and most notable ice-out dates for various Minnesota lakes.
• Team banters over whether these updates are beloved or loathed, with tongue-in-cheek jabs about "nattering nabobs" and listener preferences.

"You all thought I forgot ice out." — Joe Soucheray (03:45)

2. House File 3865 – The Classic Car Bill

(05:30–19:31)

Background and Concerns

• Joe, a classic car club member, describes a flood of emails from worried car enthusiasts.
• The bill (HF3865), authored by Rep. Margaret Luger Nikolai, DFL-St. Paul, would:
  • Allow weekend-only daytime operation of collector vehicles (Saturdays & Sundays).
  • Clarify usage for car shows, exhibitions, parades, and similar events.
  • Require proof of a daily-use vehicle when registering for collector plates (for new applications).
  • Centralize/standardize collector vehicle operation rules.

Analysis & Debate

• The team suspects a financial motive: by restricting weekday use of collector plates, the state pushes more owners into regular annual-license fees.
• Owners already must show proof of insurance and, now, a modern daily driver for new collector plate applications.

"It seems to me that this is an attempt to force people using a collector car as their daily driver—and they'd have to get a regular license and pay regular license fees."
— Joe Soucheray (07:35)

• Kenny Olson notes the required proof-of-daily-driver change is already in effect as of Jan 15, 2026—but only for new plate applications.

Community Alarm & Overblown Fears?

• Emails warn that weekday and evening classic car events ("roll-ins", informal meetups) would be forbidden.
• The team thinks fears are overblown, since law enforcement rarely enforces such rules, and classic cars aren't a significant problem.

"Given the economy... there's a hell of a lot of people driving 2006 cars. That's 20 years old. You can get collector plates at 20 years old. Maybe what this is intended to do is prevent that."
— Joe Soucheray (11:36)

• Soucheray's bottom line: He is concerned about the principle of government intrusion, not just the specific enforcement.

"The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen... This is too much of your nose in my tent."
— Joe Soucheray (12:30, 14:07)

Classic Car Life Under Threat?

• Banter over classic cars becoming "dork classics" with more 2000s cars eligible as they age.
• Group jokes about staging a "parade of classics"—including '05 Jaguars and "goon bikes"—in protest if the bill passes (18:46).
• Some memorable ribbing about how law enforcement would handle this ("What is [Barney Fife] supposed to do? Stop a guy driving a Model A on a Tuesday night?") (11:14).
• General feeling: The bill is misguided, minor, and probably unenforceable, but it’s a classic "slippery slope" problem.

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3. Sign of Spring: The Smell of Worms

(20:10–24:05)

• Listener Mary Kirk writes in about spring’s earthy scent.
• Joe claims it’s due to worms turning over soil, backs up the folk wisdom with a scientific note on "geosmin".
• Playful skepticism and banter from the team and confirmation from Matthew via Google.

"It's worms. You're smelling the movement of worms."
— Joe Soucheray (21:07)

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4. Minneapolis City Council & State Legislative Update

(29:42–39:55)

• Brief detour into the local politics:
  • Minneapolis Councilmember Elizabeth Schaeffer pushes for focus on city business, not global issues—gets kudos from the crew.
  • State Dems block bill criminalizing the disruption of religious services (House File 4095)—heated discussion of priorities at the Capitol, tying in wider cultural frustrations.

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5. State Issues & Listener Email: Paid Family/Medical Leave

(77:01–84:24)

• Joe reads a long email from a listener explaining the unintended negative effects of Minnesota's Paid Family and Medical Leave Act.
  • His employer dropped its prior (better) benefit and now defers to the state, which caps benefits and taxes the employee, making it financially useless for many.
  • The listener feels punished for having a traditional family and private benefits.
• Secondary story: A Lakeville couple receives dozens of official state mailings for businesses that don't exist at their address, exposing fraud, waste, or bureaucratic failure.

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6. Minnesota’s State Flag – Local Pushback

(84:26–86:33)

• Zumbrota city council votes to restore the old Minnesota flag in chambers, with discussion about growing local resistance to the new flag’s adoption.
• Joe and crew cheer this local gumption and hint this will spread across other cities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the true threat of the bill:
  "Stay out of my life, Nikolai Luger, whatever the hell your name is."
  — Joe Soucheray (14:07)

• On government overreach:
  "The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen."
  — Joe Soucheray (12:30)

• Comic relief in protest planning:
  "I'm already putting together a protest. Parade of classics."
  — Kenny Olson (18:46)

• Cultural dig:
  "There aren't enough [collector cars] for you to worry about. They're not causing any problems. So why don't you figure out how to stop fraud?"
  — Joe Soucheray (17:32)

• On Spring:
  "It's worms. You're smelling the movement of worms."
  — Joe Soucheray (21:07)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:04 – 05:23: Ice-out update, introduction of main hosts.
• 05:30 – 19:31: Deep dive into House File 3865, classic/collector car bill discussion, community reaction.
• 20:10 – 24:05: Listener email about the smell of spring, worm/geosmin discussion.
• 29:42 – 39:55: Minneapolis city council, House File 4095, disruption of religious services.
• 77:01 – 84:24: Paid family/medical leave act listener letter, state incompetence on fraud.
• 84:26 – 86:33: Zumbrota city council restores old Minnesota flag, commentary on local resistance.

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Tone & Style

The episode is quintessential Garage Logic—irreverent, folksy, with a mix of deep Midwestern nostalgia and skeptical common sense. Joe takes government overreach personally; the team peppers in jokes, gentle mockery, and classic “garage” wisdom throughout. Banter is swift, unscripted, and occasionally wanders, but the through-line of concern for liberty, car culture, and local traditions stays strong.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The classic car community's anxieties about House File 3865 might be a mix of fact and overreaction, but the hosts see a trend of incremental government encroachment.
• Law enforcement is likely to deprioritize ticketing classic car drivers, especially amidst larger public safety issues.
• Listeners are reminded to be vigilant about bureaucratic changes that affect private life and personal freedoms, and are encouraged to “push back” in their communities—on everything from car plates to state flags.
• Classic Garage Logic: Sometimes, the real issue isn’t the letter of the bill but the spirit of independence it threatens.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I saw who reminded him.

[Joe Soucheray]

I love them and you guys don't like them. And I don't know why you don't like them.

[Kenny Olson]

Some gl Er rodeo tattling.

[Chris Reivers]

Don't forget.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I'm remiss. We had a night out. Ice out. As early as March. March 11th. Of course, that was the earliest. That was Minnetonka in 1878. You global warming fans. That went out in 1878. It went out again on March 17, 2016, March 18, 2000 and March 21. On two occasions, 1987 and 2012. White Bear went out on March 21 in the year 2000, went out on March 8, 2024 and March 16, 2016. We are caught up on ice outs and you will have them now until the final one.

[John Haidt]

Oh, boy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Most of them in April. I love ice outs.

[Chris Reivers]

I know you do.

[Joe Soucheray]

And we're up to date on them. And you're going to get them whether

[Chris Reivers]

you like it or not.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think listeners enjoy them. I think it's you nattering nabobs who don't like them.

[Kenny Olson]

I agree with you.

[Matthew]

I think a listener enjoys them.

[Joe Soucheray]

Me, we were.

[Chris Reivers]

We were close to an opener. We only missed it by about 24 hours.

[Kenny Olson]

Is Frone's little ding, ding, ding bell still in there? Ding, ding, ding. Joe, I would appreciate it from now until I'm going to say Memorial Day.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

As soon as you're done with the ice outs, could you just hit that little dinger just to snap me back into reality?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, I can.

[Kenny Olson]

Because while you were doing that, I made an interesting discovery about one of today's topics.

[Joe Soucheray]

Should I wait till we get to that topic?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm chomping at the bit to talk about these collector plates.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, well, let me set it up.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm a member of.

[John Haidt]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

I belong to a number of classic car clubs. Austin Healey, Triumph, MG and Boy. My inbox was getting flooded with concern about a House bill that's been proposed. It's House file. What the hell is it? House file 3865 and I'm somewhat confused by it. It's authored by somebody named Margaret Luger Nicolai, a Democrat lawyer. I believe she filled the seat abandoned by Kali her and she represents parts of St. Paul. Yeah, she was elected just in November to replace Collie her. And It's House File 3865. This bill allows weekend operation of various collector vehicles during daylight hours on Saturdays and Sundays and explicitly allows their use related to car shows, exhibitions, parades and similar special events. It also makes a variety of technical and clarifying changes which include creating a centralized provision on the scope of collector vehicle operation effective the day after enactment. Background. Current law establishes several types of vehicle registration categories in a collector class, namely pioneer, classic car, collector street rod, collector, military and classic motorcycle. Vehicles registered under the collector class are limited to only being operated as collector's items and not for general transportation. And the requirements for most types of collector vehicles are silent when they're at shows, parades and the like. We have a call into Meg Luger, Dash, Nikolai, of course, we haven't heard back. It sounds to me, I think the safe, the fail safe when you look at any bill is look at the money. It seems to me that this is an attempt to force people using a collector car as their daily driver. Correct. And they'd have to get a regular license and pay regular license fees when you get a collector plate, which I have on one car, I've had them on many and will continue to. You only pay once for that plate?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. And it's a reasonable price.

[Joe Soucheray]

What have you had a thunderstorm about?

[Kenny Olson]

Key changes took place actually January 15th of this year, 2026. You now you have to have proof of insurance. I don't know why that is new, but we've always had to do that on our other vehicles. But now you have to provide proof of a daily driver. You have to come in there with valid registration for a second vehicle that's used for commuting, everyday use, business, etc. So that's new. If you were an all. If you already had plates like you do, you wouldn't have to do that. This would be just for new applications.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I buy a I buy a 1980 MGB tomorrow and I want to immediately put collector plates on it. I would also have to produce evidence that I'm driving a more modern car. Right. Kidding me.

[Kenny Olson]

Right. What critics are worried about are all these drive in coffee meetings, Wednesday night shows. You know, the, the cruising. What is the one down in Henderson? That's Tuesday nights, the roll in. Yep. Yeah, they're worried about those kind of events that happen during the week.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, again, follow the money. This is another attempt by Democrats to just get more of your tax money.

[Kenny Olson]

I think if sane minds prevail here, there will be a rewriting of 3865 and they'll pull that out and they'll continue to allow people to drive these vehicles whenever and wherever they want.

[Joe Soucheray]

The alarm sounded by these emails I've received are somewhat off base. They. They're. They're issuing a cry of alert that we're forbidden to drive our cars except on weekends. I don't think that's the case. Do you think that's the case?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm looking at. I know that. You know what, the text messages I've received are sound similar to that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not stopping, by the way, if I want to drive a 76 Triumph on a driving it. Nikolai Luger. Nikolai. And I'm driving it with a collector plate on it. It's not my daily driver.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, and as I said to you guys before the show started, I mean, people aren't even getting pulled over for expired tabs.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, now what does this do to law enforcement? Is Barney Fife driving around up where Kenny lives? Is he supposed to pull over? What is he supposed to do? Pull over? A guy driving a model a Ford on a Tuesday night classic.

[Kenny Olson]

Sheriff Troy is saying to his guys right now, yeah, don't worry about it.

[Chris Reivers]

Let her go.

[Joe Soucheray]

What a bunch of bs. Here's the other problem. Given the economy in this country and the price of cars, there's a hell of a lot of people driving 2006 cars. That's 20 years old. You can get collector plates at 20 years old. Maybe what this is intended to do is prevent that.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, no, that's, that's. But I think the law that they already put in place that went into place January 15th is enough. You have to provide proof of having a second car.

[Joe Soucheray]

So if you're driving a 20 year old Volkswagen Beetle and you have a

[Kenny Olson]

Jetta, I'm listening to myself. 20 years old yet, you know, I'm listening to the both of us talk about this. That's Ludicrous. If I want a 65 Chevy and I want it to be my daily driver, why can't I put collector plates on that and make it my daily driver? Is this not a free country?

[Joe Soucheray]

The small. The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. So if the government, in this case, Meg Luger, Nikolai, who's been in office since January, gets this passed, you don't get to make that choice.

[Kenny Olson]

Right? Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Critics.

[Kenny Olson]

Here's what text I wanted to read you. This means no weekday cruises or evening drives. This means no driving. Go ahead.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I disagree. I don't think this will stop a single.

[Kenny Olson]

But this is. This is why everybody's up in arms. These kind of things are going around. No driving on Wednesday night roll ins. No weekday test drives after getting work done at the shop. See, that's it.

[Joe Soucheray]

All of this is less silly.

[Kenny Olson]

I hope it's silly.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's the deal. I've always known that in theory, my collector plates, in theory, prevent me from just whimsically driving around. I'm supposed to be gone, bro. Let me finish. I'm supposed to be going to an exhibition or I'm going to a parade, right? I've driven the damn thing to Arkansas and back with collector plates on it.

[Chris Reivers]

But not on a Wednesday.

[Kenny Olson]

But you're not gonna drive over to B', day. Makaska and Harriet and Lake of the Isles and Sydney. You're not gonna get on Theo Worth Parkway. You're not gonna do the grand rounds on a Tuesday because you're not allowed to.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, but I am going to.

[Kenny Olson]

I know, I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

So here's another thing that. Here's a. Let's look at it from a larger viewpoint. I'm opposed to anything that gets the camel's nose in the tent. Restricting my use of a car. Stay out of my life, Nikolai Luger, whatever the hell your name is.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is. Take the larger view of this. I don't want to live in the United States when the Mysterians are going to control every time I can use my car. And that to me is. This is too close to that. This is too much of your nose in my tent. Get the hell out of here. Why don't you do what you're supposed to be doing?

[Chris Reivers]

Can you imagine the call for mpd? Hey, we got a robbery suspect here. Hold on, hold on.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's driving a 1929 model A2 door.

[Kenny Olson]

What about next. What about next year when I register my plow truck because it's a 2007? I'm going to tell them I only drive this after heavy snowfall. This classic.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, now there's. There's where this is going to be interesting. Your truck at the year 2007 will be 20 years old.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, 27.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. Next year, by law, you can apply for collector plates.

[Kenny Olson]

And I do own newer vehicles that are daily drivers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well then. Then I think you're safe. You. You will. You probably will drive the plow truck only after big snow falls. And you probably have other trucks you use more frequently than your. Your plow truck.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

So you're a perfect candidate to put collector plates on the plow truck, pay for them once, and hope that plow truck plow snow for the next 15 years.

[Kenny Olson]

So what if I'm. Also, I would really love to buy a 1965 Chevy truck. Yeah, a 65 truck. And I want to make it my daily driver in the summer. What do I do? I just have to buy normal plates then, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Meg Luger. Nikolai will tell you that you can do that, but you're gonna pay for regular plates.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you're gonna pay for them annually, by the way.

[Kenny Olson]

Speaking of that, you guys have been complaining about this. I think mostly off the air about what you're paying for your plates.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh my God.

[Kenny Olson]

I bought plates for my daily. My main driver last Friday. It was $44. What's the big deal about that?

[Chris Reivers]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, registering my side by side was $60.

[Joe Soucheray]

What year is it?

[Kenny Olson]

It's a 2016.

[Chris Reivers]

2026.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't. I don't know what I paid. I don't have it.

[Chris Reivers]

I renewed my tabs, Ken. And my traverse is a 2023. And I spent almost $600.

[Kenny Olson]

Gee willikers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. No, I went. Well.

[Kenny Olson]

Wow.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, it was 580something or other. I can't remember.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's put it this way.

[Chris Reivers]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

It didn't take Meg Luker Dash Nikolai long to figure out the game, did it?

[Chris Reivers]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

Some more money out of you people.

[Kenny Olson]

They're searching under all the cushions and lifting all the rugs.

[Joe Soucheray]

My word, my counsel to the collector car community.

[Chris Reivers]

No, you're not above the rules, boss. I'm sorry.

[John Haidt]

It's

[Joe Soucheray]

is to me, the only thing to be worried about here is the. This bold attempt to stick her nose further into the tent of when cars can be used. Lady, I got news for you. There aren't enough of them for you to worry about. They're not causing any problems. So why don't you figure out how to stop fraud?

[Chris Reivers]

Why don't you buzz off Almost as if they keep continuing to come up with reasons for just one more pin for me to want to leave the state. You know what I mean?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

What can we come up with next?

[Kenny Olson]

What's our protest gonna be when this. If this passes?

[Joe Soucheray]

Lady, I got another thought for you, lady. If you're driving an old MG as your daily driver in this state, you're driving it for about four months. That's it.

[Kenny Olson]

She doesn't know what an MG is, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

So this idea that the state is somehow getting shortchanged because people are using collector cars to drive to work is a non factor. Non factor.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm in my head. I'm already putting together a protest. Parade of classics.

[Joe Soucheray]

I. I will be glad to be in that parade when I join you for this parade.

[Kenny Olson]

The classics should be a guy with a 1990 Chevy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

2500, you know, just some real dork cars.

[Chris Reivers]

So can I could roll in with my.

[Joe Soucheray]

There you go.

[Kenny Olson]

That's the new. The dork classics.

[Joe Soucheray]

How about a Dor, Meg?

[Chris Reivers]

I could dork plate. I could roll in with my 05 Jaguar with the hood ornament missing.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Nice.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. How about calling out these people who think an 05 Jaguar is a classic car? That's a dork car. Yeah. Parade Ford Taurus. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

In dirt bikes, we cut. In the dirt bike world, we call them goons.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

A goon bike.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I am alarmed, but only because of the larger reason, not because of the current reason. I just. I don't think you're. You're whistling up the wrong tree there, Meg. Luger dash like Nikolai.

[John Haidt]

You kind of mix your signs, don't you, Joe?

[Joe Soucheray]

Did I say whistling up the wrong. You sure did.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

What's the correct phrase?

[Chris Reivers]

Non.

[Joe Soucheray]

Barking up the wrong tree.

[Chris Reivers]

That's it.

[Matthew]

Whistling Dixie with the barn.

[Kenny Olson]

I was barking like Royce. He's saying, cutting the wind and breaking the cheek.

[John Haidt]

Right.

[Chris Reivers]

Sneaking your nose in the tent.

[Joe Soucheray]

News of spring from Mary Kirk. Joe, I stepped outside Friday morning and could smell the earth. Well, she's a g eler. A sign that spring is here. As a youngster, my father taught me to be aware of the signs and smells of the outdoors. The smell of spring is my favorite. I read on the Google that there is a scientific name for that fresh smell. Geosmin, an organic compound released by streptomyces, or astynomycetes bacteria in the soil, is a primary contributor to the characteristic fresh earth. I just call it spring. Good luck, Mary. Mary. What? I would Add to that is, if I'm not mistaken, and we've been through this, which is why I am capable, by the way, of smelling spring. I sometimes smell it in February.

[Matthew]

Got it.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's worms. You're smelling the movement of worms. I believe it has something to do. I'm serious.

[Chris Reivers]

I think you are right, expert.

[Joe Soucheray]

It has something to do with earthworms and the earth. And the earth remains uneven.

[Chris Reivers]

Thanks, Norm.

[Joe Soucheray]

On my way to the hatchery, the wagon tilted because the earth was uneven.

[Matthew]

The spring smell. I know though, doesn't. It doesn't seem wormy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, Matt, let me try to help.

[Matthew]

You can smell fresh spring.

[Joe Soucheray]

Matt. Matt, let me try to help you.

[Chris Reivers]

Here we go.

[Joe Soucheray]

If I'm understanding it correctly, you might be smelling the earth that the worms are turning over. I don't think you're smelling the actual worm because it's not smell Radio.

[Matthew]

Thank you, Shik.

[Joe Soucheray]

But I think Mary's onto something. She can smell spring and I'm with her. I can smell it also and it has something to do. Well, you know, all of you idiots just sit here with thousand dollar computers in front of you and you don't do a damn thing. We ain't gonna smell it with this wind. Look up worms in spring. If worms have something to do with smelling spring, the early bird gets the worm.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I'm laughing because this is one of those Joe isms. Like. Like the best coffee is the coffee made with the coldest water.

[Joe Soucheray]

That happens to be true.

[Kenny Olson]

This worm thing is just another Joey.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no.

[Chris Reivers]

A reading from the book, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, worms have something to do with it.

[Kenny Olson]

He's made up his mind. Are you helping?

[Joe Soucheray]

Because you can do it a lot faster.

[Matthew]

It is possible to smell worms, or more commonly, the earthy scent associated with them. During spring, the smell is often a mixture of fresh soil, decomposing organic matter and the chemical compound Geosmin.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's what she just wrote.

[Matthew]

Released from bacteria in the soil when it rains.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you very much. Thank you.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, I gotta be honest.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who is your dad?

[Chris Reivers]

When I locked in on Matthew, I thought whatever's coming out of his mouth is gonna start like it's an explanation that's gonna turn into complete and total disease.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, to his great credit, he found the right answer.

[Matthew]

Thank you very much.

[John Haidt]

If I may defend you, Joe on the other man.

[Chris Reivers]

Alert.

[John Haidt]

Cold water. Yeah, it is true, Kenny. We looked this up one day, remember the cold water?

[Joe Soucheray]

And I was right again.

[John Haidt]

That helps the flavor of coffee.

[Joe Soucheray]

Aren't you tired of winning?

[Kenny Olson]

What a heavy burden.

[Joe Soucheray]

You must be terrible.

[Chris Reivers]

And obviously the coldest water is provided by Hoffman Water in Connecticut.

[Kenny Olson]

Right there.

[Joe Soucheray]

You want to do it?

[Matthew]

No.

[Chris Reivers]

It's your turn, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want to.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, you need to.

[Joe Soucheray]

You don't want to. Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

Come on, wormy boy.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm glad I got back to those ice outs.

[Kenny Olson]

Woo eee.

[Matthew]

And whoever did that, may you spend an extra half an hour in hell.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

That's not, that's not worms you smell. Turn his microphone off. He's so undisciplined. I'm waiting for him to reply to that snarky.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't actually shut my mic off.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Soucheray]

I had turned my mic back Hi Joe, what was the name of Rick Capchella's documentary A Precarious State, which I think should be shown weekly by some outlet and that focused heavily on a guy who owned a lot of apartment buildings named Jim Rubin. And then we had Jim Rubin in as a guest and he was lamenting the absence of knowledge that the Minneapolis City Council has just about business in general. But he took particular note to say that Elizabeth Schaefer, who was a Park board commissioner and now a City Council member, seemed to whatever it is, she gets it. And I was noting today in the Minneapolis Times she has written to her constituents about what she sees on the City Council and how they're failing to do what City Council should do. And she said, we see issues brought forward that I believe do not belong on the Minneapolis City Council agenda. Members of the City Council have spent time, energy and city resources to bring forward resolutions calling for the normalization of relations with Cuba, urging unspecified European financial institutions to divest from companies that enable ice, and instructing the University of Minnesota to end a labor standoff. I feel like such resolutions distract from the business of actually running the city. Well, of course they do. And as in the case with the university, resolution could actually interfere with the ability of a coordinate unit of government to do its own job. Minneapolis needs municipal leaders focused on Minneapolis, and Minneapolis does not have that. They do not have a government of municipal leaders focused on the city. They're just as likely to be focused on the west bank or land that was stolen or let's normalize relations with Cuba than they are potholes and streetlights and parkways and libraries and what have you. So thank you to Elizabeth Schaeffer for being a voice of reason In a time of tremendous turbulence here and elsewhere. And may she be recognized and so forth and so on.

[Matthew]

She has a husband, Steve, and four grown children. And it looks like she's a medical doctor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Doctor didn't really.

[Kenny Olson]

I think she was against the two month eviction notice thing too.

[Joe Soucheray]

I believe she was, yeah. Because she understands how things work. Business. It's a miracle that she's even on the council.

[Chris Reivers]

How'd she slip by?

[Joe Soucheray]

What area does she represent?

[John Haidt]

Rook.

[Matthew]

It's Ward seven.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where's that, I wonder? Let's see a lot of wards over there.

[Matthew]

They do Ward 7 boundaries

[Joe Soucheray]

in the meantime.

[Kenny Olson]

Hold on. Yes, 7 is west. It circles Bidet, Makaska, Lake of the Isles, Cedar Lake, Kenwood, etc, north of 394 up to. What is that? Mayor Glenwood.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I wish they were all of that mind, but they're not. Meanwhile, in the Minnesota state legislature, Democrats in the House last week, the Democrats blocked a bill that would have required serious lawbreakers to be reported to ICE if they were illegal. Mali Democrats are blocking a law that would make it a crime to disrupt church services. They think you should be able apparently to disrupt church services. On January 18, we all know anti ice agitators stormed into city's church and disrupted its Sunday morning worship service. Protesters harassed churchgoers, shouted anti ICE chants and created such turmoil in the sanctuary that the worship service had to be abused. And of course the mysterians In Minneapolis and St. Paul are all in favor of the disruptors. They thought that was great. I believe the pastor or a co pastor there has a daytime job with ICE and that was what motivated them. The always available Nakima was involved. Nekima, Levy Armstrong. The always available Don Lemon, who has nothing to do now because he doesn't have a show he was involved. And so the House came up with the idea, well, let's nail that down. Let's not be disrupting church services. And the Democrats voted against that because there has not been a specific statute that criminalizes the disruption of a church service. So Representative Ben Davis sought to change that. He authored House File 4095, a bill that would criminalize the disruption of any religious service if someone does so with the intent to interfere with the lawful exercise of religion and while committing a crime within the religious establishment. Should a House file 45, 40 should House file 4095 become law of violation of that provision would be a gross misdemeanor. The second violation would be a felony, resulting up to five years in prison or a $10,000 fine. Or both. Davis bill was heard what's the date of this story? Oh, it was heard, I believe last week in the House Public Safety Committee. And the Democrats opposed the bill and offered a variety of explanations. Democrats said the state law already has statutes that criminalize disorderly conduct, trespassing and interfering with religious observance. Both Democrats said those existing laws should be able to deal with the situation at city's church. That's where that took place. DFL Rep. Kayla Berg, a current congressional candidate, read through a list of shootings that occurred at houses of worship and eventually accused Republicans of refusing to protect those places because of the GOP's opposition to gun control. Kayla Berg let's look her up. Rook K A E L A Kayla Berg B E R G so let me see now. If a church got shot up, that's because Republicans opposed gun control. That was her excuse for blocking this bill. The Democrats during the meeting on this bill repeatedly brought up Operation Metro Surge. Democrats said religious places need to be protected, but Republicans blocked DFL efforts to protect constitutional rights in the wake of Operation Metro Surge. In the end, Democrats appeared to oppose the legislation to make it criminal to wreck a church or riot in a church because their Operation Metro Surge related bills were also blocked.

[Matthew]

Third term two kids elected 2020 independent labor consultant is her occupation. She is in 55B which is district

[Joe Soucheray]

map Walter Hudson said, I find it frankly mind boggling that the argument against this bill would be that there's a bunch of other things that ought to be done alongside it. Hudson said this is how we legislate one bill at a time, one provision at a time. I best excuse is Kayla's believing that it's all right to disrupt a church because Republicans are opposed to gun control.

[Kenny Olson]

Did you find it Matthew 35e Burnsville Area B yeah, yep, yep. It's basically the split from Buck Hill up up to 35W.

[Joe Soucheray]

The DFLers who voted against House File 4096 were Caleb Berg, Sandra Feist, Emma Greenman, Athena Hollins, Pete Johnson, Kelly Moeller, Dave Pinto. Dave, you voted on something. Lucy Rem and Brad Tabke. So if you know Walter Hudson is correct, he should be doing one bill at a time. But on this bill they dragged in everything they could think of, including shooting. Well, there's been shootings in churches and that's the fault of Republicans. I I don't think it is.

[Matthew]

She's been a flight attendant for Endeavor. She worked as a union organizer and a union steward for United Steel Workers and the association of Flight Attendants.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, her bona fides as a Democrat are well established, then, yes. All right, let me see my trustee watch. I. I'm going to save this. This. I'm going to save this and tell

[Kenny Olson]

you, Brigham Young, I want to read something I just looked up on that topic. This is AI. Under Minnesota law, statute 609.28, it is a misdemeanor to intentionally prevent someone from performing a lawful act recommended or enjoyed by their religion. Additionally, it is a gross misdemeanor to intentionally and physically obstruct someone's access or egress from a religious establishment.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, what this bill distinguishes. This bill is distinguished by the fact that this puts the act inside the church. They want to make it illegal to. The Republicans authored a bill to make it illegal to disrupt the church service while actually being in the church. I think. I think what we already have on the books is, you can't stop me from entering a church or exiting a church. It was always assumed when this was a country of character and ethics and morality that going inside a church during a service, I don't care what brand of church, was so untoward that it was unthought of.

[Kenny Olson]

It's amazing that we have to have a law against that.

[Joe Soucheray]

But that's the point we've reached that the always available Nakima and her race industry cohorts who make a living doing this believe it's just fine to go inside a church. And she found plenty of Democrats who agree with her. So we're fine. Everything's fine.

[Kenny Olson]

Everything's gonna be fine.

[Joe Soucheray]

Nothing to see here. Two plus two is five. Two plus two is five.

[Kenny Olson]

If it's really weird, that's normal.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, the mink. He did some thinking, and he came up with a pretty good idea. He was reading Max Shulman's Barefoot Boy with Cheek. Max Shulman was a Minnesota. I think Max Shulman invented Dobie Gillis, didn't he? Staff anyone? Anyone, I think.

[Kenny Olson]

Never heard of him.

[Joe Soucheray]

Dobie Gillis or Max Shulman, I guess.

[Kenny Olson]

I know Dobie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. I think Max Shulman invented Dobie Gillis. Is the staff on that?

[John Haidt]

Yeah. He did.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Thank you.

[John Haidt]

Short story character, Dobie Gillis, who eventually became a television character.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. Well, so he was. The man was reading Barefoot Boy with Cheek, and he said one thing struck me toward the end, when the hero is graduating. And this was written ages ago when the academy was failed, but not nearly as failed as it is now. Toward the end, when the hero is graduating, the speaker gives a ridiculous recounting of how the U was founded on land once owned by people called the Chalmers. The Chalmers did many silly things, but in their elections for political office, the winner was the person with the least votes. This way the electorate knew the elected had few friends and hangers on and were thus likely less likely to be in influenced and coerced by bad attentions. That's a great idea. Whoever gets the least vote should be the winner. That's pretty good because they got nobody that they're beholden to, right?

[Chris Reivers]

Imagine if they applied that to Marconis.

[Josh Arnold]

Whoa. Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

Wow.

[John Haidt]

I couldn't help.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'd have a hell of a lot of victories. I have a lot of first places.

[Kenny Olson]

Is this kind of humor the kind of the stuff that you older folks? Is this like Bob and Bill?

[Joe Soucheray]

I knew he was gonna say that. I knew he was gonna say that.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, it is Abbott and Costello kind of nonsense?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

The book overview for barefoot boy with cheek is. Yeah, listen to this. On his first day of college, farm boy Asa Herthrug. Get it? Her throg enthusiastically jumps out of bed and discovers that his pajama pants are caught in the bed springs.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's funny.

[Kenny Olson]

He learns that his dog has died and his father, in an effort to soften the blow, tells an absurd story about a female bullfighter. Next, the freshman pays a visit to his high school sweetheart to say a heartfelt goodbye. But Lodestone le Tool.

[Joe Soucheray]

Lodestone o', Toole, which is way ahead of James Bond, as the mink noted,

[Kenny Olson]

is more interested in hamburgers than vows of devotion. And this kind of hilarity, I guess, just ensues through the whole book.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well.

[Josh Arnold]

Huh.

[Kenny Olson]

And I guarantee you, you'll smile so hard your jaw will hurt. It's a real belly jiggler. A knee slapper, I tell you.

[Joe Soucheray]

How'd you get to school? My father bragged me. No, how did you get to school? That's James Thurber when he was writing a story about the lineman that Ohio State absolutely had to have eligible to play. And he was in class and the class knew that this lineman was really valuable to the team. They had to get him through this class. Transportation. And how did you get this school? My father brung me. No, how. How did you get here? And the whole class started going choo, choo, choo, choo, choo to try to get him to say train. You know, it was. It was the kind of hilarity that Kenny doesn't like. Because Kenny doesn't like fun.

[Matthew]

No, he doesn't like old Fun. He doesn't like old fun.

[Joe Soucheray]

He doesn't like fun.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

If I don't understand Ray aren't funny.

[Kenny Olson]

If I don't understand it, I mock it. That's what we do on GS.

[John Haidt]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's true.

[John Haidt]

A lot of shots all around the last minute and a half here.

[Chris Reivers]

So it makes us great.

[Kenny Olson]

I've never heard of this guy actually, to be honest with you. But what I wanted to tell you and you might not be surprised, one of his hardcover books are this barefoot boy. Book 47 right now is the price at a book user.

[Joe Soucheray]

Max Shulman's very famous Kenny. A lot of people have read him. Yeah. Really?

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[Matthew]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Matthew]

A redaction sale.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. One of the guys upstairs sent me this. He thought it would be funny. Redacted. I was at Ecofox Saturday and it was bustling with people who realized that's the most fun store they'll ever be in. 400e bikes in stock right now. As low as 799 on sale motorcycles. I sat on the Moto Guzzi V7. 7199 I think.

[Kenny Olson]

Just tell us what you bought, what you get.

[Joe Soucheray]

While we're in negotiations. And we have.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute. With them or with?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, no, with them. Jet Skis and Waverunners on sale. And you buy one. They had plenty of those in stock. Oh man. And you get a fifteen hundred dollar trail with the Jet Ski if you buy one. Just. It's just the. And I said, where's Kaylin? She was brought to Yamaha's headquarters in Georgia. They flew her down again to learn more about Jet Skis.

[Matthew]

I think she's going to tell them more about Jet skis than anybody else.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

Joe Sushere can you smell it in the air?

[Joe Soucheray]

I smell worms.

[Chris Reivers]

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It's still indoor season right now.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, heavens, yes. Although I thought I saw a couple guys out on the course yesterday.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Here is John Haidt.

[John Haidt]

Thank you, Joe. This news brought to you by North American banking company. During that first segment there, after we talked about the tabs and stuff, I went and looked it up and most states have the same law that we want or we don't want but that they're they want here that they're trying to introduce. But the interesting thing is it said they are, quote, enforced unevenly in a lot of states.

[Joe Soucheray]

So basically that's A way of saying we don't pay any attention to it.

[John Haidt]

Go ahead Wednesday night you need to get groceries, right? Go ahead and take the old car. We don't really care. So in news, two shootings over the weekend in Minneapolis have community activists worried about a ramp up in violence. First, it was a midnight shooting Friday. It sent four boys, three 17 year olds and a 16 year old to the hospital, all with non life threatening injuries. Police say someone opened fire at the Popeyes Restaurant on West Lake street and then fled. Then on Saturday night, Minneapolis police say gunfire which occurred around 10:15 near the corner the of of East 25th street and South 17th Avenue left a 19 year old man with a fatal gunshot wound and a 16 year old boy with a non life threatening injury. It's not known if the two shootings are related. Bishop Harding Smith is the founder of Minnesota Acts Now, a faith based nonprofit. He said we're not going to start the spring like this and we're not going to start summer like this. He says he and 11 staff members are initiating street outreach, youth mentoring program programs and home visits for at risk youth. Jack Burnett is the founder of Level Ground Vocational Training. He says his nonprofit program will continue to mentor young people. They've been doing it since 1923. He notes the organization which operates out of Shiloh temple has connected 150 youths to jobs and training. Police say suspects in both shootings remain at large.

[Joe Soucheray]

The Reverend said we're not going to start spring like this. To which I would have been compelled to say, but Reverend, we did did.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

[Joe Soucheray]

We did start spring like this.

[Kenny Olson]

John, the address of that second shooting, I heard the south 17th part. What was the cross street?

[John Haidt]

25th. Let's see, south 17th, east 25th street and south 17th avenue.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh that's, that's a neighborhood all right. Yep, it's going to be a, it's between Bloomington Avenue and Cedar Avenue.

[Chris Reivers]

When you watch the some of the social media reaction, I, I don't think it's going to be a very good summer in Minneapolis.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, we're going to hope for the best.

[Chris Reivers]

I couldn't agree more. But it's just

[John Haidt]

feeding our future. Founder Amy Bach, who prosecutors call the ringleader of the massive pandemic fraud scheme, now has had her sentencing date scheduled. Bach is now set to be sentenced by Judge Nancy Roselle at 9am May 21, 2026. A jury you'll remember found Bock guilty on all seven counts she faced, including charges w fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, conspiracy to commit federal programs bribery, and federal programs bribery. Bach defended herself during the trial. She said that wire fraud was committed, but by other people who simply copied her on emails, and that she never demanded bribes or kickbacks and that there was no agreement with anyone to do either of those things. Bakkett testified the rapid growth of Feeding Our Future, founded in 2018, had everything to do with the demand for food, not a scheme to defraud the government. Again shall be sentenced May 21st.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, but Amy, Amy, Amy. Nobody got fed.

[John Haidt]

Minnesota sports journalist Jesse Pierce, who covered hockey in Minnesota, and her three children have been identified as those killed in a White Bear Lake fire on Saturday. Pierce was well known in the hockey community, covering the Minnesota Wild and Minnesota Frost, co hosting the Bar Down Beauties podcast and making frequent appearances with our buddy Judd Zolgat on Judd's hockey show. The White Bear Lake Fire Department also confirmed Sunday night that Pierce died in the fire, said it will release additional information on the fire after the investigation. An outpouring of tributes for Jesse and her three children, Hudson, Kaden and Avery, came on Sunday following the news of their death. According to Judge she was so many things to the hockey community and to our podcast. Funny, intelligent, never afraid to speak her mind. If there was one word I would use to describe how I felt about her, it would be respect. She was a mom, a writer, a person who was great at dealing with everyone. Fellow sports journalist Jess Myers with the St. Paul Pioneer Press said he'd known Pierce for 15 years, bonding over their shared love of hockey and their alma mater, Iowa State University. The Wild created a memorial for Jesse and her children, setting flowers in her media spot at Grand Casino arena and placing a stick out in their memory.

[Joe Soucheray]

Couldn't she podcast from this very studio?

[Chris Reivers]

She used to. Yep, she really did. She was a. She was a really cool gal.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I didn't know her.

[Chris Reivers]

She'd be one of the people that would be sitting with us, having a cold one, watching the Wild game. That's the kind of gal she was. She was just awesome.

[Kenny Olson]

She was just on Judd's show on Friday and then Judd did a show this morning that's already over. Kind of a tribute to her.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

And the Wild. The Wild. Tip of the cap to the Wild, the way they handle that. And I know Hines spoke about her after his press conference after the Dallas game on Saturday as well. It's just a horrible story.

[Kenny Olson]

She's getting national recognition, which would crack her up, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, because that's the kind of person she is. She asked them, what are you doing showing me on. On your network.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, she wrote for NHL.com and they.

[Chris Reivers]

The league released a statement on her that was.

[Kenny Olson]

That was quite Chefter and New York Times and.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Made Good Morning America this morning. Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Beltrami County Sheriff's office says they recovered a deceased man from the Mississippi river on Friday after a vehicle left the road and went into the water. Sheriff's office said they received a call around 4:43 in the afternoon Friday when a pickup truck reportedly left the roadway while traveling northbound on Sunnyside Road. It then entered the Mississippi river after traveling through a residential yard. No one was seen leaving the vehicle after it went into the Mississippi. By standard. Authorities attempted to reach the truck to get any occupants out, but they said the vehicle quickly sank into the river. The lone occupant of the vehicle, an adult male, was pulled from the river around around 6:30 in the evening and pronounced dead at the scene. At this time, authorities are still investigating why the vehicle left the road. They have not yet identified the driver of that truck. Another state fair concert announced. What are we. Let's see. Let me see. Five months away from the state fair.

[Joe Soucheray]

Groundbreaking.

[Chris Reivers]

Serious. It's already five months.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, right.

[John Haidt]

April pretty much.

[Matthew]

Tis almost the same season.

[John Haidt]

Groundbreaking girl groups tlc, Salt and Peppa and En Vogue are bringing their.

[Joe Soucheray]

Push it. Push it real good.

[Matthew]

What's your favorite tlc? Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls.

[John Haidt]

Yep, Waterfalls. A good tune. They're bringing the tour to the state fair. Chris, put your finger on the button here because the tour's name is. It's ironic.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I thought that. I thought TLC hit each other over the head with baseball bats or something.

[Chris Reivers]

No, the one was arrested. Yeah. For domestic, I believe. She is no longer with us.

[Joe Soucheray]

She?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, she got killed in a car accident.

[Joe Soucheray]

What was her name?

[Chris Reivers]

Left Eye Lopez.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right. Left Eye Lopez.

[Chris Reivers]

She's the one that burned down the. The recession.

[Kenny Olson]

It was Lopes, right? It wasn't Lopez, was it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Lo.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, I think you're right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Left Eye Lopes left.

[Matthew]

She's the one I. One I love.

[John Haidt]

Thank you. I can't remember his name. They're set to perform at the grandstand September 5th. That is the second Saturday of the fair. Tickets will go on sale this Thursday

[Kenny Olson]

at 10am There should be a service that could provide me with the exact time that Salt and Peppa is gonna do. Push it so I could wash in. I could dig that song. It'll probably be their encore. Right. Because it's their biggest song. Yeah. And then walk out so I wouldn't have to see anything else but that song.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's where I've always said about Metallica. If you could just tell me when they're going to play Sandman and. Right. And Whiskey in a Jar and then let me get out of there.

[Chris Reivers]

Give me a heads up.

[John Haidt]

Whiskey in the Jars. On their regular playlist.

[Joe Soucheray]

I bet they play it frequently.

[Kenny Olson]

God, I would hope not. They do such a horrible, horrible, horrible version of it.

[Joe Soucheray]

The only reason I asked.

[John Haidt]

Kenny.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you.

[Kenny Olson]

I bid on that hard, didn't I, Joe? When I worked for the Fan, I would get tickets for NBA games and it was during. It was when all the big players were big, Jordan, etc. And I would go down there and I would sit in the bar till the start of the third quarter. Then I would go down and watch that quarter. Then I would go across the street to the First Avenue.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'd wait till the fourth quarter.

[Kenny Olson]

No, you want to beat the rush, you got to get out of there early.

[John Haidt]

Why don't we take a quick break here and hear once again from Mr. Olson.

[Kenny Olson]

That's good, because I got a great tip from a GL or that I think could help all of us regarding a seafoam product. Let me just read it to you, Kenny. I was at the sports show visiting the seafoam booth and talking to them about Bugs Be Gone. I don't think we have a video for Bugs Be Gone. You could just change this back to all of us. Chris. The staff at the sports show gave me a sample bottle and said I should try using it on stains in clothing.

[John Haidt]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, well, being a GL guy, I thought I'd give it a try when I got home. And I bet you know where I'm going with this, don't you, Matthew? And he is happy to report it worked. But he says. And now here's what he says. I don't know if I believe him, but he says this. Bugs Be Gone actually, actually removed the stain. And now nobody can tell me tell that I was eating a hot dog with ketchup.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, my God.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Thank. Thanks and good luck from Tom. Number one, Tom, we know it didn't remove any kind of ketchup stain from your shirt. We know where the stain was. And nobody admits to eating a hot dog with ketchup. Everybody puts mustard on ketchup. But it is notable that Bugs Be Gone works on clothing stains. It's an excellent tip and Definitely worth to trying drying. And it's part of the big three from Seafoam that every galer should have bugs be gone deep creep penetrating oil and of course, the OG the motor treatment. Wonderful products from our friends at Seafoam.

[Joe Soucheray]

John.

[John Haidt]

Thanks, Kenny. And I love ketchup on hot dogs.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm sorry, I knew you were gonna say that.

[Chris Reivers]

The only time you don't do it is when Chris and Rob's used to bring their the hot dogs.

[John Haidt]

Oh, remember they used to yell at me.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, they would scold us for sure. Sure.

[John Haidt]

Hey, do you guys bring any ketchup on hot dog?

[Kenny Olson]

What kind of rube puts ketchup on a hot dog?

[John Haidt]

Hi.

[Matthew]

It's like throwing a hot dog down a. No.

[John Haidt]

In national and international news, President Trump extended his deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Horror. I got an email by the way, saying I've been saying this wrong so I'll say it right now. The Strait of Hormuz. Yeah, I was saying Muse, apparently. Anyway. The Strait of Hormuz. I like that somebody actually took the

[Joe Soucheray]

time to do that.

[John Haidt]

I didn't.

[Kenny Olson]

I haven't even noticed that.

[Joe Soucheray]

What were you saying? Hormuz.

[John Haidt]

I was saying Hormuz like muse. Hormuz.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hormuz.

[John Haidt]

Is that what it's called?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. We're turning now to our global correspondent with word on. Mr. Trump first issued a 48 hour deadline for Iran and now it's been lengthened to five days and he is our global correspondent. It Mr. Vogel, could you please explain that Trump join in 48 hours today. Bang, bang, bang around. Thank you. That's our global correspondent, Mr. V. As

[John Haidt]

I think Mr. Vogel told us, the US will now hold off on striking the power plant.

[Kenny Olson]

It makes perfect sense to me.

[Joe Soucheray]

It does. 7.

[John Haidt]

Trump made the announcement on his Truth social site hours ahead of his previous deadline. He said the US And Iran have had very good and productive conversations. However, Iran says no, we haven't had any conversations with the United States or the President. We haven't talked to them at all.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mr. Vogel, how do you explain this description? What are you hearing with your ear to the ground over in the, in the air in the Arabian Peninsula. How do you explain this discrepancy? War people talk.

[Matthew]

They're peace talks.

[Joe Soucheray]

U.S. iraq, Iran and the Middle east

[John Haidt]

peaceful.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't know if I agree with that, but.

[Joe Soucheray]

Understand what you're disputing that. Huh?

[Kenny Olson]

But I don't. I'm not. I can't go with that. I'm sorry.

[John Haidt]

The change in mind by the president has made for, again, humorous things on social.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, I'm personally, I'm thankful that he changes mind.

[John Haidt]

I am thankful.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey, mushmouth.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, that's Mr. Vogel.

[Kenny Olson]

Vogel. Mr. Vogel. Who am I to believe? President Trump. Trump or Iran?

[Joe Soucheray]

Iran telling the truth. Trump is for himself.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you talking with food in your mouth?

[Joe Soucheray]

Aisle six

[John Haidt]

in, you know, you ask

[Matthew]

him, where do you go to put food in your mouth? And he said, aisle six.

[Chris Reivers]

Have we established Mr. Vogel is no longer with us? Is that, is that what we learned last week?

[Matthew]

Lawrence Vogel has passed?

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Yes.

[John Haidt]

I mean, it was a long time.

[Chris Reivers]

So when the family gets back, they're going to be happy that he's now a correspondent on the show.

[Matthew]

I don't think Brian is listening. Brian's the youngest son. I don't think he's listening to the show.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's meant out of love, 100%.

[Matthew]

He was a gentle, wonderful human being.

[Joe Soucheray]

But he's also our new global correspondent.

[Matthew]

8:45. Nativity every Sunday like it was.

[Joe Soucheray]

I, you know, I don't need a history. I'm just telling you, he's our new.

[Chris Reivers]

Don't you want to learn about a new character on the show?

[Joe Soucheray]

He's our new global correspondence.

[Kenny Olson]

8:45. Yeah, that's a weird start.

[Matthew]

Barb and, and Larry, why not 9:00am Never? Because you had to make time for the 10:00 p clock mass, which was the high mass at nativity.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, okay.

[John Haidt]

In. In other news, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, dying Friday at the age of 81 after leading the agency from 2001 to 2013. He later became known for his role as special counsel counsel appointed in 2017 to investigate claims of Russian interference in the US 2016 presidential election. Mueller investigation identified contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia. By 2019, they had brought charges against six of President Trump's associates, including campaign chair Paul Manafort and Trump's first national security adviser, Michael Flynn. Eight people eventually charged and convicted from that investigation. Five pardon by President Trump. Trump. Before the report, Mueller had served as the FBI's second longest serving director, joining the agency days before the September 11, 2001 attacks. Before that, Mueller graduated from Princeton University in 1966, then got a master's degree at New York University. After getting his master's, instead of going to work, he joined the Marine Corps, where he led a rifle platoon of the 3rd Marine Division in Vietnam. He served as an officer for three years and would ultimately receive numerous military medals, including the Purple Heart, two Commendation medals and the Bronze Star. President Trump took some grief after reacting to news of Mueller's death with the message good, I'm glad that he is dead. In contrast, former Presidents Bush this country

[Joe Soucheray]

could use some kinder words from that. I saw a great picture of Mueller in his Vietnam fatigues holding a rifle battle helmet on next to a picture of Trump holding a bowling trophy.

[John Haidt]

In contrast, former Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama wrote posts praising Mueller for the service he gave to the United States, both as an award winning soldier and his tenure at the FBI. White House borders are Tom Holman said yesterday immigration and Custom Systems Enforcement officers will not be directly involved in security scanning measures at airports today as they began helping Transportation Security Administration employees, he said, wherever we can provide extra security, I don't see an ICE agent looking at an X ray machine because we're not trained in that. But there are certain parts of security TSA is doing that. We can move them off of those jobs and put them in specialized jobs to help move those lines. President Trump wrote on Truth Social earlier Sunday that ICE officers will, in his words, help TSA agents starting today at home and is in charge of that operation. Two people killed, several others badly hurt when an Air Canada regional jet hit a fire truck on a Runway landing at New York's LaGuardia Airport. The pilot and co pilot were killed in the late Sunday night collision which crushed the nose of the aircraft. 40 passengers and crew members were taken to area hospital hospitals, a few with serious injuries. Most have been released from treatment as of this morning. Two Port Authority employees who were traveling in the fire truck also suffered injuries were not believed to be life threatening. In the moments before the crash, an air traffic controller could be heard on a radio transmission giving clearance to a vehicle to cross part of the tarmac and then trying to stop it. The airport was shut down, air traffic diverted. This morning, air traffic controllers evacuated the tower because of a burning smell from an elevator. According to the Federal Aviation Administration in Newark, the fire truck was traveling across the Runway to respond to a separate incident aboard a United Airlines flight whose pilot had reported an issue with odor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do we know if the fire truck occupants were injured?

[John Haidt]

They yes, they. In fact, that was. That was part of the story.

[Matthew]

They were not seriously injured.

[John Haidt]

Not seriously.

[Joe Soucheray]

That shows you the strength of a fire truck and it shows you how quickly the nose of that plane collapsed. It hit the fire truck and the fire truck guys live and the two pilots must have been crushed.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I would have jumped out and run. Have you ever landed? Have you ever flown in and out

[Joe Soucheray]

of LAGUARDIA I have many times.

[Kenny Olson]

Horrible little airplane.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't like it.

[Kenny Olson]

If I was a movie script guy, I would write a movie about a plane that crash lands on Riker's island island, which is just off both runways at LaGuardia. I think that would be a great basis for the start of a movie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Why don't you get busy with that?

[Matthew]

And is that your dream?

[Kenny Olson]

Let's. Let's circle back to this at about this time next week.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

[John Haidt]

You fellas remember Mark Robinson?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. South Carolina, North Carolina. North Carolina.

[John Haidt]

Former lieutenant governor of North Carolina.

[Joe Soucheray]

Carolina.

[John Haidt]

Ran for governor in 2024. You remember during that election period, reports surfaced that he was on a porn website frequently writing racist and other offensive posts. Robinson used homophobic and anti Semitic slurs, including exclaiming, I am a black Nazi. He initially denied that he was the author of the comments, and he. Ross lost the race for the governor's post by 14 points. Well, last week, he was on a podcast cast with Florida based pastor Josh hall, and he acknowledged, yes, it was him. He had an obsession with pornography and sex. And he had denied the reports of his online commentary to protect those around him, including, he said, Donald Trump, because it was. How's this for cynicism? He said it was, quote, the most expedient thing to do.

[Joe Soucheray]

Said, I don't know what that means.

[Matthew]

I'm not.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not trapped, tracking.

[John Haidt]

He said, if I had to ignore the truth at that moment for expediency, I felt like it was the right thing to do. I didn't want to be the person that cost the President of the United States the election. What it was expedient for him to deny it so that he didn't get himself or the president in trouble.

[Matthew]

So he would go on a site and watch whatever, but then start calling people homos or whatever it was.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, he. Yeah, there was.

[Chris Reivers]

We.

[John Haidt]

We read them when they happened. They were very strange.

[Joe Soucheray]

We played his audio on the air many times.

[John Haidt]

Loved Hitler, you know, he said on the posts.

[Joe Soucheray]

And, you know, so because Trump endorsed him.

[John Haidt]

Correct.

[Joe Soucheray]

He thought, I better not say I'm the guy who watches this stuff.

[John Haidt]

Okay. That stuff. Yes.

[Matthew]

And, well, sometimes I wish he wouldn't have.

[John Haidt]

You get it? Then Trump wouldn't.

[Joe Soucheray]

I get it. I get it.

[John Haidt]

I get it. A mystery of sorts. French children discovered another seated gall skeleton this week near their primary school playground in Dijon. Like some other Gaelic figures, the figure's back was pressed against a wall facing westward, hands resting on its lap. Scientists aren't sure why this happened, and they remain puzzled by the ancient burial practice. Four other Gaelic skeletons were discovered in the same position in recent weeks. Weeks each at the bottom of a roughly three foot pit. Gaelic tombs in Dijon represented more than a quarter of all Gaelic burial sites discovered, suggesting the city held special meaning for the Celtic people. It's unclear whether the seated position was a sign of respect or an indication of punishment. And they don't know whether the deceased were buried alive or not. All skeletons discovered in Dijon were adult men, except for one child. Child galls emerged in Western Europe about 2500 years ago, spreading across modern day France, Belgium and the UK Even more strangely, when they were there, they didn't leave any written records.

[Matthew]

I hate that. You gotta leave me a trail.

[Joe Soucheray]

So how the galls were illiterate.

[Matthew]

Something to work with.

[Kenny Olson]

This had a lot of gall.

[Chris Reivers]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wonder how that's related.

[Kenny Olson]

Not at all. Gall and Gaelic, two different spellings.

[Chris Reivers]

May we go back to the fire engine airplane story?

[Joe Soucheray]

We may.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm watching the video of this. The fire truck pulls out in front of. Have you guys seen the video?

[Joe Soucheray]

I assume to his credit, the air traffic control guy took responsibility and said, I screwed up.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, he did. I did not know that. I'm sorry. But it's as if the fire truck had its lights going and pulled in front of the plane. As if I have the right of way.

[Matthew]

Both have both. Both were clear. He cleared both of them.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, he did cleared that plane, aircraft

[Matthew]

and the fire guy.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I'm sure the pilot was doing everything he could to hold the break down. He just couldn't stop in time.

[Chris Reivers]

Right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Woof.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, man.

[John Haidt]

And Finland's president, Alexander Stub. Remember we talked about Finland last week, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. They're the happiest place on earth because they're full of fins.

[John Haidt]

He's warning that relations between the US and Europe are fractured because of Donald Trump's policies. And he urged allies to salvage what you can of the alliance.

[Kenny Olson]

So much data.

[Matthew]

Sorry, he said, clicking on the Air Canada video.

[John Haidt]

He said, I'm more pessimistic now in that sense and more realistic. Said in the olden days, US Would consult with US and its allies. This time around, the US Is acting alone without informing us. He added that ideological changes in Washington are reshaping priorities. He called MAGA an ideology anti globalization, anti international institutions, anti Europe and anti eu. At least Stube joins a growing number of European leaders who say Washington is pulling away from any alliances with them. The Finnish president said the Consequences were already visible. He said there's a split in the global west right now, a crack between the Europe and U.S. obviously, I'm trying to salvage what I can. They also warned, warned that easing US Sanctions on Russia would have direct consequences for the war in Ukraine. He said it's very damaging for Ukraine because it basically feeds the Russian war machine. He said reports that Russia could be earning up to $150 million per day from higher oil prices wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, thank you.

[John Haidt]

You're welcome.

[Joe Soucheray]

At the state Capitol, there's efforts underway to reduce, repeal the ban on the development of new nuclear power plants. This is exactly what the American experiment is working on and hoping for because Minnesota used to have affordable and reliable energy, but we have a ban on the creation of nuclear plants. And the American experiment is trying to get to the bottom of that.

[Kenny Olson]

Why?

[Joe Soucheray]

It's the cleanest, safest and most reliable carbon free energy on Earth. But state law says no, we can't do that. We're one of nine states with a nuclear moratorium and the only one in the middle of the country still doing this to ourselves. So the rest of the world is trying to get ahead of this energy curve and Minnesota is waiting. So the American experiment does not want to repeat that failure. You can help. Go to americanexperiment.org and click on the Take action button. Tell your representative it's time to free the nukes and restore reliable, affordable energy in Minnesota. Americanexperiment.org. Here's a man who spends hours in hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Joe, I have some news about our state's paid family and medical leave acting as of March 15. The Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development, which runs it, has said nearly 34,000 Minnesotans have been approved for the act. According to DEED, the Department of Economic Employment and Economic Development, two thirds of all applicants are being approved or denied within three weeks. So far, Minnesota Paid Leave has processed nearly 50,000 applications. Minnesota Paid Leave is working according to plan, said DEED Commissioner Matt Verelick. I am proud that we delivered this program on time and under budget. All right, and it goes on to pat itself on the back. Okay, I got an email from a guy who says don't use my name. All right, Hail the Flashlight King. Hail you. I wanted to write and share with you how the Paid Family Leave act has affected my family. My company recently announced that they are ending completely their previously provided and generous maternity paternity sick leave programs and are directing everyone to the state program. From their perspective, I'm at least empathetic. I work at a mid sized local company and with the new program and tax they were effectively paying for the program twice, much like you do when you send your kids to private education and I need them to stay in business to continue to have a job. The problem is that the state benefit is capped at the state average weekly wage. That is to say, the average weekly amount earned by a person. In Minnesota, we are a single income household. I am lucky enough to earn above the average individual wages, but when considering household income, we're much closer to average again because my wife stays home to care for our children. Herein lies the problem. If I take the state leave, I'm only guaranteed 50% of my current salary but could be allowed by the state up to 90%. I can't afford to make half my salary for a few weeks, much less 12 weeks, and still pay my bills and put food on my family. So fraud or not aside, I'm now getting taxed an extra 0.5% every year to pay for a program that I can't afford to take advantage of. That has now replaced a generous benefit my employer previously provided because the free market drove them to. But I suppose maybe that's the point. Since we're an evil traditional family with a minivan full of kids in Catholic school and a loving mother who is sacrificing years of her life and career to take care of them, why would the greatest state to raise a family want to help us? Sincerely, so and so then I got this.

[Chris Reivers]

Wow, what a racket.

[Joe Soucheray]

A Lakeville couple says they are receiving a Growing this is from. I believe this is from Alpha. A Lakeville company says they are receiving a growing stack of official letters from Minnesota's unemployment insurance and paid leave and medical programs, all addressed to businesses they have never heard of and have never operated from from their home. Despite multiple phone calls and letters to the state, the couple says the mail keeps coming. Since mid February, the homeowners say they have received more than 20 official letters for Minnesota's paid leave programs addressed to companies. They say they have no apparent record of existing. We lived here for 22 years, the homeowner told Alpha News. We've never run a business out of this house and it's a purely residential neighborhood. Neighborhood. The first letter arrived arrived February 13th, addressed to the Stel Building materials. The company said they had never heard of that company. A search of the Minnesota Secretary of State's business registry turned up no record of it. An online search yielded no apparent US Based business by that name. The following day, another unemployment letter erupted arrived. This came from the state's paid family and medical leave program addressed to the mystery company, Stel Building Materials Concerned. The homeowner wrote a formal letter to the state of Minnesota stating that no such business had ever operated from the property and asking that the entry in the state system be corrected. The couple also returned the initial letters by certified mail. But the mail didn't stop. Instead, it multiplied. By early March, the couple said they had accumulated roughly a dozen additional letters. More recently, a second business name began appearing on the envelopes. Bukowski Property Management. Huh? Which does not appear to be registered with the Minnesota Secretary of State or associated with any identifiable business in online search. At first we thought it was a mistake, but when the letters kept coming and a second business name showed up, that's when we became concerned. The couple has not opened any of the letters, noting they are not addressed to them. They have instead photographed the envelopes and provided copies to a legislative office after reaching out for help. Despite contacting state agencies by phone after being told it could be a simple clerical error or a transposed digit, the couple says no. No one has indicated the address has been flagged or corrected. They just said to mark them not at this address and return them, the homeowner said. But they keep coming. The unusual situation unfolds against the backdrop of the state's ongoing fraud crisis, as well as the rollout of the new paid family and medical leave program. The Lakefield couple says they do not know whether the letter tied to their address represent a clerical mistake, a data entry error or something more serious. But they are concerned their home address could be linked to potential employer accounts without their knowledge. We just don't want our address associated with fraud, the homeowner said. Alpha News reached out to the Minnesota Department of Employment and Economic Development, which oversees both the unemployment insurance and the paid family and Medicare medical leave programs, for comment, but did not receive a response.

[Kenny Olson]

Shocking.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm stunned.

[Joe Soucheray]

See, here's an example of honest people, and the state doesn't know what to do with honest people. Tax them. The state is flummoxed.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's run them out of here.

[Joe Soucheray]

What the hell are these honest people doing telling us they're ruining our scam?

[Chris Reivers]

They're Lee Elia bitching at the people that bought tickets to the game.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why aren't you people working? Holy mackerel. I don't know what to tell them. I hope they're not still getting the stuff, but wouldn't surprise me if they are.

[Matthew]

Wouldn't surprise me either.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. And I want to take a moment to tip our cap to the people of Zumbre.

[Matthew]

Love Zumbrota. You know, you go down south, you cross the Zumbrota River.

[Joe Soucheray]

Isn't that up by St.

[Matthew]

Cloud 16 times?

[Chris Reivers]

No, it's.

[Matthew]

No, it's the south.

[Chris Reivers]

It's south of Cannon Falls.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I know. I.

[Chris Reivers]

You're testing him.

[Joe Soucheray]

I just thought I was saying.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, he probably does know because he's been tubing on the Canon River.

[Matthew]

We're going next year with you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, don't say we.

[Matthew]

I'll bring a sandwich.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, they're going back to the original state flag.

[Matthew]

Zombrota.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is really catching on. I'm so happy. Happy. The city of Zumbrota will replace the current state flag with. With the 1983 version. The old flag will do. Will be displayed in the city council chamber starting today. Well, that's fantastic. This is. You know, we're fighting back with this flag.

[Chris Reivers]

I. I told you this before the show. You'd be shocked at how many areas are actually flying the old flag.

[Joe Soucheray]

The city council voted 3 to 2 to replace the current state flag with the old one. The flag will be displayed only in the city council chambers, not outside city Hall. We have other pressing issues in the city of Zumbrota, said Mayor Todd Hamill. He voted against the measure, but city council member Kevin Amundsen, who spearheaded the push to return to using the old flag, said it's about heritage and politics. He also criticized the way the state went about creating the new flag. I wanted to maintain the heritage and culture and the legacy that established and built Minnesota. He said our elected representatives outsourced it to an unelected committee. It's kind of a moot point, said the mayor Hamill, noting that the flag is only displayed in the corner of the council chambers. Well, that's a start. I'm happy for the city of Zumbrota, having come to their senses and many other burgs in Minnesota.

[Matthew]

Hear, hear.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are doing the same thing. And I think it's fantastic. I think it's fantastic. Let's get them all up. You know what? Then they'll do? They'll pass a law saying that's illegal. You can't fly that flag.

[Matthew]

This is going to be tit for tat.

[Kenny Olson]

Excuse me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep, only because they come to us all the way from Penguin, Tasmania, Australia, from the traveling linemans@worldwide waftage.com before you

[Kenny Olson]

end and thank G. Ellers, I'm going to update you on a this day in sports history that you read from March 4th.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right.

[Kenny Olson]

You're gonna love it, too.

[Matthew]

What did you find on the rabbit hole?

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, March 23rd, Henry A. Swift was born in Ravenna, Ohio. He served as governor for six months during the Civil War, succeeding Alexander Alexander Ramsey, who left office for the US Senate. Swift died on February 25, 1869, in St Peter. It's probably where we get Swift County.

[Matthew]

Is it Swift County?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, there is. On this day, March 23rd, your S counties are St. Louis, Scott, Sherburne, Sibley, Stearns, Steele, Stevenson Swift.

[Matthew]

Got it.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, March 23, 1860, convicted of poisoning her husband, Stanislaus Ann Belanski was executed in St. Paul. Blansky was the only woman and the first white person to be legally executed in the state, Although serious doubts about her guilt still persistent. Like Stanislaus cold case, huh?

[Matthew]

Yeah, really.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, March 23, in 1971. Oh, recently, Minnesota was among the first states to ratify the 26th Amendment to the Constitution, which gave US citizens 18 years of age or older the right to vote in local, state and national elections, Both Minnesota and Delaware claim to be the initial actor on this important issue. Also, although one Minnesota legislator who voted against ratifying called his state's role a dubious pleasure, ratification by the necessary number of states was completed later in the year.

[Matthew]

What was it before 21.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. On this day, March 23rd, in 2002, the University of Minnesota Gophers wrestling team won their second consecutive NCAA National Championship. Congratulations on this day, Kenny in Minnesota, sports disappointment history.

[Kenny Olson]

Why Would you have brought up on the fourth, a Blackhawks goalie, Sam LoPresti, setting a still standing NHL record of facing 83 shots against. Against goal, on goal.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why would I have brought it up?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, they were playing the Bostons. Why would that be on Minnesota sports history?

[Joe Soucheray]

Because Sam Lopresti was from Evoleth.

[Kenny Olson]

That's why we. You brought it up. What? You didn't bring it up. Bring up, and I wish I knew the giller that sent me this. I didn't discover this on my own. I'm sorry, sir or ma'.

[Joe Soucheray]

Am.

[Kenny Olson]

Listen to this, Joel. Serving with the U.S. navy during World War War II, Lepresti was riding on a ship that is torpedoed during an Atlantic crossing. He is one of 29 sailors who will spend 42 days in a lifeboat until their rescue off the coast of Brazil after drifting 2, 500 miles. He's credited with saving the lives of the men by catching dogs, dolphins for food.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now, go back to the record of his shots. It read me that 83. You think you know what those 83 shots were to Sam Lopresti? Nothing. That's nothing. He could have stopped it with his head. And he said, that's nothing. Wow, that's fantastic.

[Matthew]

You think he told that story?

[Joe Soucheray]

Seems to me I remember that about

[Kenny Olson]

Lopresti, that that era is over. There was a time, think when you guys were young, in the late 50s, 60s, 70s, where what do you think the percentage was of men around you in your lives that fought in World War II? I mean, it had to be 80% of all the people men you knew.

[Joe Soucheray]

The words around me were 100%.

[Matthew]

Well, look, Chuck Norris, he was in the what?

[Joe Soucheray]

He invented war.

[Matthew]

Yeah, he invented war. Yeah, but he served for four years and then came back and did his karate stuff.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, Ted Williams. What. What would have been his career numbers had he not flown for the marines?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

What's funny about karate stuff?

[Joe Soucheray]

That was an honest karate stuff.

[John Haidt]

I don't know.

[Chris Reivers]

He's got that whole karate thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in sports disappointment history,

[Chris Reivers]

Joe, who'd we lose to on March 23?

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1981, the Phillies played with replacement players.

[Matthew]

Ooh, scabs.

[Chris Reivers]

Why is that a Minnesota?

[Joe Soucheray]

I have no idea. Well, they were the. Weren't they? The basketball team, the Minnesota Phillies.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the baseball club.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, this is an F. F I,

[Matthew]

L. So you're talking baseball, not Mickey and the dude.

[Joe Soucheray]

It was. It's a Minnesota sports disappointment history. It wouldn't have been the Philadelphia Phillies.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, that's why I was.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. Phillies.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Oh, with an F. Look at that Philly.

[Chris Reivers]

Look at that Philly karate stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

That's some funny Bob and Bill comedy. Roy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Bob and Bill. Who's Roy?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, but Costello.

[Chris Reivers]

Speaking of sports, we should make mention there will not be a Monday night sports talk today. We will be recording that tomorrow. Patrick has other duties.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's fine.

[Matthew]

No wonder it was very silent in the green room over there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Let's go back to lepresti for a minute.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Haidt]

According to a sailor, he improvised a weapon by lashing a sheath knife to a boat hook. He plunged into the ocean and caught all by himself a 35 pound dolphin. They hauled it into the boat, drank its blood and cooked its flesh in a metal bucket with rags and kerosene. How about that?

[Joe Soucheray]

You know. Again, kerosene. Throw 200 shots at him, he didn't care. No, that was a pleasure compared to what he went through. Holy mackerel.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

That put life into perspective, didn't it?

[Joe Soucheray]

When did look up Sam Lopresti. When did he die?

[Chris Reivers]

You know what that dolphin was? He was the slowest one of the group.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't even think dolphins are that good eating.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, at that point.

[Joe Soucheray]

But at that point you're not, you know, you don't have a menu.

[John Haidt]

December 11, 1984. Aged 60.

[Joe Soucheray]

Boy died young.

[John Haidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew]

It said Reason for death. The person died of a heart attack. Poisonous. What is it?

[John Haidt]

Dolphin heart attack.

[Matthew]

Congestion.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did he finish out his days at home on the range? I wonder. Iron range.

[John Haidt]

He died in evolution.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll be damned.

[John Haidt]

At his home.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sam lepresti.

[Matthew]

He played for the Phillies?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, Blackhawks. Thank you. G. Ellers. Wow. I'm sorry that you had to hear that.

[Matthew]

He did not wear ice skates until the ninth grade.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, he probably became a goalie because he wasn't a good skater.

[Kenny Olson]

He skated fast because the ice was cracking under his feet.

[Chris Reivers]

Not a strong skater.

[John Haidt]

Oh, Joe's giving up.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, do us a favor. If you haven't done so, join the thousands and thousands and thousands of subscribers on the Garagelogic YouTube channel, where you can watch the show each and every single day, starting right around noon. And there's also full segments, there's video shorts, there's even behind the scenes footage. Just search garagelogic, two words on YouTube, along with with all of our social media channels, that includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That email comes right to your inbox each and every single day. And it Includes most recent episode of the podcast. Time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-92-55608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, the press is at it again.

[Josh Arnold]

Our they if the press is at it again and it's not pressed and a lot of members of the financial press and maybe some other investors at it again, they said the taco trade is on as in Trump always chickens out. That's a phrase that is serving in the least. I don't believe that Trump is, you know, always chickens out. Chickens out to what? Chickens out to doing more damage to the Iranian economy. Not trying to come up with a deal that ends up being positive for America and in the Mid east in this case. Now come on. Now of course, this morning the stock market took off on news that there'd be a cease fire while talks were ongoing with Iran after president had thrown threatened to bomb oil facilities in Iran if the Straits of Hormuz weren't open. Now I've got a few questions relating to that, particularly given that the United States is not dependent anymore on foreign oil with the exception of California, which is dependent on foreign oil even though they have a lot of it. But California laws make it very difficult to drill and refine energy in the state. Indeed in California, one of the major miners and oil companies, Chevron, closed their main offices and moved, could not do business anymore in California. But that's another story altogether. But with Trump's not only threat and the news this morning of a ceasefire and some deal making that could take place for the Iranian military or high command denied any of this. These took talks has taken place and a vow to the death to continue destroying the United States, Israel and the rest of the Gulf state, the oil market, stock market and the bond market responded positively to the to the President's comment with yield going back down, yields going down and bond prices rising and oil prices going down. So Oil prices are down, oil stocks, bond prices are up, stock prices have moved up as well. Gold prices have come down, which is also interesting. So a lot of positive in the market relative to these, to the President's comment and I'll say a lot of hope that this conflict and I'll say ends soon. And I'll say the I'll say the prospect of oil prices coming back down and coming down very quickly has also boosted airline stock and travel stock, including cruise lines and the whole hotel space. Though I will say Expedia, Priceline or Bookings.com and Airbnb had held up pretty well this month. So that to me was is good. And that fits in to one of my focus areas, that being leisure related companies, which I have found since I've been in graduate school, that leisure companies tend to hold up pretty well well no matter what's happening in the economy. And the other area of focus of course is companies around the Internet, which includes artificial intelligence. We'll see how the days progress. But right now the macro is taking precedence over the micro. The macro being world events, the price of oil, the direction of interest rates and bonds, rather than what's going on with individual companies and their growth rate.

[Chris Reivers]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. Money Talk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk. Talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Thanks very much Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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