3/3 The Mayor has given up. He supports taxpayer contributions to the renovation of Grand Casino Arena.

Summary

Garage Logic – March 3, 2026

Episode: “The Mayor Has Given Up. He Supports Taxpayer Contributions to the Renovation of Grand Casino Arena.”

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Episode Overview

In this engaging installment, Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”) and the regular Garage Logic team dig into hot-button local issues, most notably the contentious debate over taxpayer funding for a $600 million overhaul of St. Paul’s Grand Casino Arena (Xcel Energy Center). The episode centers on Joe’s reluctant admission that, after years of resistance, he now supports public money for keeping the Minnesota Wild in St. Paul—a decision he frames as “giving up” in the fight against sports team owners’ leverage. The crew also riffs on state government fraud, potholes, local politics, the value of public investment, voter ID requirements, and slices of Minnesota life, all in Garage Logic’s freewheeling, common-sense-inflected style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Mayor’s Big Admission: Give Up & Write the Check

• Timestamp: [03:00 – 04:39]
  • Joe confesses he now supports public funding for the Grand Casino renovation: “Write the check. And here’s why…I’ve given up. No, I’ve given up in this sense, asset Tuesday, you can’t win that game. The owners of sports teams have the hammer…But then when you add in this thought, it helps me give up and say, write the damn check and let’s keep the hockey team.”
  • The city’s proposed split: $400 million for the arena; $200 million for RiverCentre updates.
  • Joe draws a distinction: this partnership’s tangible impact (jobs, events, visibility) is at least better than throwing money at state-run programs with no measurable results.

2. Is the Investment Worth It? St. Paul’s Civic Health

• Timestamp: [05:39 – 06:32]
  • Initial investment ($170m in 1999) didn’t make St. Paul “flourish,” but it "kept it from completely disappearing.” Joe laments lost nightlife, commerce, and retail but insists the “framework” for revival still exists, hinging on retaining the Wild.
  • The renovation may include new hotel projects and more event nights.

3. Tax Talk: Who Pays for What?

• Timestamp: [11:05 – 13:41]
  • The cost-sharing plan: City ($162.45m via extending a sales tax), Minnesota Wild ($162.5m), State Legislature ($200m ask), with the Wild covering overruns and holding a long-term lease.
  • “They always available…you knew that sales tax was never going to go away. Right now you’re just adding another half cent to it. Okay, you know what? What do I care?” – Joe Soucheray [12:14]
  • The hosts debate whether a sales tax extension is regressive, affecting all income levels (not just the wealthy).

4. Sports, Civic Identity, and the “Euphorian” Argument

• Timestamp: [04:40 – 09:07]
  • Some panelists tease Joe for his “Euphorian” shift (his term for tax-loving city folks), but he contends: “At least this is resulting in something tangible…keeping the city on the map. When you compare the $400 million to the billions that have been stolen from us, it’s a drop in the bucket.”
  • Fear of losing the Wild, referencing the painful North Stars relocation, colors the sense of urgency (“Never again.”)

5. Comparisons & Context: Stadium Funding Elsewhere

• Timestamp: [09:41, 19:41]
  • The conversation contrasts the Wild situation with recent examples: Seattle Kraken paid $650 million just for an NHL expansion fee. Utah gained a team via relocation.
  • Not all stadiums are taxpayer funded—some privately financed, but always with hidden public costs (infrastructure, etc.).

6. Legislative Landscape & Skepticism About State Spending

• Timestamp: [13:41 – 16:29]
  • The crew skewers the Minnesota Legislature for prioritizing “programs you can’t measure” over tangible investments like the arena.
  • “All it’s done is increase the size of government and the number of programs available ostensibly to help people who are not being helped. The state government in this state is a scam. It’s full of grifters who are picking your pocket every chance they get.” – Joe [22:58]

7. City Council & Diversity Debates (Tongue in Cheek)

• Timestamp: [17:41 – 18:52]
  • A mock argument flares about whether council members might oppose funding hockey due to the sport’s “lack of diversity”—quickly revealed as satirical.

8. Government Fraud & Program Effectiveness

• Timestamp: [24:13 – 28:35]
  • Updates on efforts to eliminate duplicate or fraudulent aid programs in state government, specifically “housing stabilization.”
  • Hosts express skepticism about the state’s will or ability to curb waste: “There’s still no way to determine if you’ve helped anybody. So please get to the bottom of that on the long road back to this state acquiring some fiscal recognition as being responsible.” – Joe [28:35]

9. Voter ID, Rights, and Federal vs. State Law

• Timestamp: [37:43 – 44:45]
  • A lively, sometimes exasperated debate over the merits of voter ID requirements. The consensus: If it’s free and citizenship is checked, fine. But beware unintended consequences (e.g., married women whose name differs from their birth certificate).
  • “If you give every citizen a voter ID, just give them a voter ID…great, then if I have to show up on election day and show it, I’m more than happy.” – John Height [41:46]

10. Odds & Ends: Minnesota Culture

• The group riffs on potholes, gas price angst (“You’re going to get gas either way, so what’s the rush?” – Joe [79:13]), reminisces about concerts, recounts the Anvil documentary (the heartbreak of struggling musicians), and tells local anecdotes.
• “On this day” historical tidbits close out the show, recounting obscure Minnesota facts, Gopher sports heartbreak, and Will Steger’s ice-melting demonstration.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe Soucheray, on giving up:
  “I hate to do this. I hate to go this way because it breaks all precedent for everything else I believe. But I’ve given up.” [04:39]
• On city funding:
  “Compared to what you people are accomplishing up here, this can be measured for achievement. This can be seen, touched, enjoyed, used, occupied by everybody in the state of Minnesota…without it, we’re a lesser, lesser place.” [22:58]
• On the state’s waste:
  “All it’s done is increase the size of government and the number of programs available ostensibly to help people who are not being helped. The state government in this state is a scam.” [22:58]
• On the stadium deal:
  “We’re not contributing any money to it [from Garage Logic]. We just don’t have any. We spent all our money on public works.” [22:44]
• On minority voices in city government (satire):
  “Apparently, all seven female members of your St. Paul City Council raised the issue of hockey. Apparently, they don’t want to support it because hockey doesn’t have enough diversity. Too many white guys.” [17:41]
  (the panel quickly clarifies this isn’t real but mocks how easily those narratives can arise)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Joe’s Admission: “Gave Up, Support Arena Funds” – [03:00 – 04:39]
• Museum & Hotel Improvements Debate – [05:21 – 06:37]
• Tax & Funding Breakdown – [11:05 – 13:41]
• Skepticism About Legislative Priorities – [13:41 – 16:29]
• City Council Satire & “Diversity” in Hockey – [17:41 – 18:52]
• State Government Fraud & Program Effectiveness – [24:13 – 28:35]
• Voter ID Law Discussion – [37:43 – 44:45]
• Gas Pump Philosophy – [79:13 – 80:21]
• Minnesota History & End-of-Show Banter – [86:02 – end]

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The Garage Logic Take

Tone & Style

The episode blends lament, pragmatism, and biting humor. Joe’s “giving up” isn’t defeatist so much as a wry acknowledgment of political reality—sports owners hold the cards, and compared to Minnesota’s parade of unaccountable, fraud-prone state spending, the tangible civic boost from a sports arena feels almost justifiable.

For Listeners Who Missed It

If you want to understand why previously hardline skeptics are caving on public sports spending—or just want a window on Midwestern civic identity and common sense banter—this episode delivers. The hosts connect these local debates to broader issues of government waste, public trust, and communal identity, always returning to their through-line: don’t overthink it, keep some logic in your garage.

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Garage Logic: Where common sense still counts—and sometimes, you just “give up and write the check.”

Transcript

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[A]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[B]

And now, from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom and of Course, the rookie here is your flashlight king, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Sushere. I have a confession to make.

[C]

I love these.

[B]

It's very euphorian in nature. Very euphorian. I see. We're going to throw 600 mil at the Grand Casino Arena, 200 of which would be dedicated to maintaining the river center and updating it. That's where, you know, once a year you have a shuffleboard tournament or something. And 400 mil into the hockey building, which cost 170 million to build 26. 7 years ago.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

1999 or 98.

[B]

Can anyone guess what my admission is going to be?

[A]

Let's see. Because you're pro hockey, you want St. Paul to thrive. You are concerned about the environment.

[C]

No. He's going to say.

[B]

What am I going to say, man?

[C]

So you've come to a point in your life, despite the fact that you enjoy hockey, that it's okay not to spend that amount of money and have the wild go away.

[E]

I'm going to go the opposite. That you're going to say, write the check.

[D]

Yeah, I'm with Kenny.

[B]

You and the boys who are remote are correct. Really? Write the check. And here's why.

[C]

Why is that, Euphorian?

[A]

That's the only thing keeping St. Paul alive.

[B]

Not only that, but I've given up. No, I've given up in this sense. Asset Tuesday, you can't win that game. The owners of sports teams have the hammer and. And you just. You can't win. But then when you add in this thought, it helps me give up and say, write the damn check and let's keep the hockey team. I think the mayor knows this.

[A]

How is that, Euphorian?

[B]

Well, Euphorians don't mind taxes. I don't like taxes. But that at least is resulting in something tangible. It's resulting in something you can see. It's resulting in a place where you can go. It's resulting in keeping the city on the map. When you compare the 400 million to the billions that have been stolen from us, it's a drop in the bucket. I hate to do this. I hate to go this way because it breaks all precedent for everything else, I believe. But I've given up.

[C]

How is $600 million going to improve?

[D]

What would it be?

[B]

400 million for the hockey building and 200 for River Center.

[A]

It's almost 30 years old, Matthew.

[C]

But you're what, building new escalators, I think.

[B]

I didn't even read the story. I Just looked at it and said,

[C]

well, they wouldn't have a breakdown.

[A]

But look at it this way, from just a math perspect, 170mil as your initial investment did wonders for St. Paul. And so this 400, I don't know what that would translate to in today's currency.

[B]

I'm going to correct you. It didn't do wonders for St. Paul, but it kept St. Paul from completely disappearing. Wonders would be a flourishing nightlife instead of just one block of West 7th Street. Wonders would have been full hotels. Wonders would have been retail and commerce and a bustling downtown. All of that's gone from George's all

[C]

the way down to Mancini's.

[B]

But. But the framework is still there to have that happen. And that would not happen if that hockey team pulled out of here.

[A]

Because isn't part of that renovation going to include a new hotel?

[B]

I thought that was again, and I will read it. I just didn't read it yet because I thought. I'm not angry about this. When I compare the 400 million to the billions and billions of dollars stolen by an incompetent state government, my only hope for it is that the 400 million is spent competently.

[A]

Coming soon, hockey fraud.

[B]

And I think it will be because

[C]

they're not really playing.

[B]

They know what they want. They want expanded seating and they want. I didn't read it. I can imagine what the upgrades are.

[E]

You know what I was reading while you were talking? For some reason, you lit a fire. And I went to the Minnesota Employment and Economic Development webpage. The first thing I saw, Joe, Latest news. Deed awards. DEED awards. 1.9 million in Minnesota youth build grants. And then the other headline. As federal surge ends, Governor Walz proposes 10 million relief packages for small businesses. And I could go deeper on this page and find more. Millions with every page I go to.

[B]

The result of which you will never know. Right.

[E]

And at least with St. Paul the Wild, like you said, even though it's a small area, only a couple of times a week, at least you can see the results.

[B]

And it's a pittance compared to what this state has wasted and continues to waste on programs that have no ability to be measured for their effectiveness.

[E]

Plus one word.

[D]

Come on.

[E]

Hockey.

[B]

Hockey. I think I'd think this way if it wasn't even hockey.

[C]

Are you saying I want mine? And that's where your euphorian part comes in?

[B]

No, I think the euphorian part comes in because euphorians apparently don't pay any attention to taxes and not only hockey,

[E]

but especially this week. You know the high school hockey tournaments start on tomorrow.

[A]

Right. And not to say that they ever would because I don't think they would ever decide to relocate, but let's just say they did. Trying to get a new team. That alone's gonna cost you $600, I don't think.

[E]

I don't want this show to ever bring up any. The, the chance of that team leaving. Let's never ever, ever speak on that.

[B]

I think the people behind the Wild love it here. I think Leopold likes the fact that the club's here. His investors like the fact that the club's here.

[E]

Yeah, we've lived through this once already.

[A]

We don't need.

[E]

Never again.

[B]

They can never complain about ticket sales. It's sold out every night. It' but again, When I say I've given up, I mean why am I fighting against that when all my fighting against other stuff doesn't even work?

[E]

You have such a. I don't even like the way you're approaching this with such an I give up attitude.

[A]

Kenny. I should have rephrased it this. Phrased it this way. You're right. I'm sorry. The Seattle Kraken paid 650 million as an expansion fee to join the NHL as a 32nd team.

[C]

Just to the league.

[A]

Just to the league.

[B]

Which means the owners of the other teams got a nice taste. Yes.

[C]

I have a self serving question.

[A]

We're shocked.

[C]

After all of the renovations are done. When do I get to go as America's guest? Will I still. Will we still have the nice center ice place that an investor has here?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Okay, good.

[A]

Is that one, that pink envelope sits up there once a month.

[C]

Fine.

[D]

I'm okay.

[C]

Yeah, we're good. 600. Let's go.

[E]

Hockey is doing so good right now that Utah has a franchise, can any of you name the franchise in Utah?

[B]

The Mammoth.

[E]

Okay. All right.

[C]

I. I would have taken me a while.

[E]

I apologize to you guys. I didn't think anybody would get that.

[A]

Ken, I'll tell you this. The boys and I attended a basketball game in that arena. That's a cool facility in Salt Lake City.

[E]

Dry.

[B]

I don't think Utah had to pay an expansion fee.

[E]

What?

[A]

Well, they relocated.

[B]

They were the Phoenix.

[A]

Because they were from Phoenix.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And the other thing Utah had going for him is apparently a very good building where the Jazz were playing.

[A]

That facility is great. They must serve beer, I would think.

[B]

Of course they do. But anyway, you know, look at this. Here it is right here.

[A]

No, wait, wait, wait. Before we move off of hockey.

[B]

I'm not. I got a thing I want to.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were changing topics. I apologize if you're offended.

[B]

Collie.

[D]

Her.

[B]

The mayor and the Wild have reached a framework agreement. 600 mil. Now this got to go through the legislature. Where the Euphorians in the legislature who aren't euphorians, they're mysterians. They'll squawk about this. They'd rather spend 400 million on programs you can't measure. Achievement.

[A]

Yeah, Inclusion.

[B]

They're holding a press conference as we speak right now. The proposal calls for extensive upgrades to the arena complex with cost shared by the city, state and the Wild. The Wild are in for a very sizable chunk of money. The project is estimated at 600 million. 450 million for the arena, 150 million for the river center and Roy Wilkins Auditorium. Under the framework, the city plans to finance 162.45 million for the arena by using a half cent extension on the sales tax.

[C]

They always available.

[B]

Okay, but there again we knew that sales tax was never going to go away. Right now you're just adding another half cent to it. Okay, you know what? What do I care?

[C]

Okay, but. But that's a small ray of hope.

[B]

So what's a pack? Well, Twinkies will cost me. What? I don't know.

[C]

But what?

[B]

No, there's no tax on food. How would we measure the half cent increase? Where am I gonna feel it in my life?

[A]

In St. Paul?

[C]

But the ray of hope is it's not just tax the wealthy. That's everybody. That's the zero income to 4 million.

[B]

I understand.

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Help me remember.

[B]

Let me just finish this.

[E]

All right, Go ahead.

[B]

Sales tax extension. The Wild will fund 1 62.5 million on their own. They have to come up.

[C]

That's admirable.

[B]

Another. Well, cash. You know, there was a day when I. It cost me a job to complain this way. I said there's no bleeping way you're gonna. I'm not paying for that dump.

[E]

That's where I was going with this.

[B]

I fought this like you're supposed to. I've given up pay one. I'm done.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

With that dome, wasn't it just a half a percentage point in just a certain area of Minneapolis? The downtown area?

[B]

Yeah, something like that. I'm sure there was a.

[E]

Remember that?

[C]

There's probably a sunset rule on that, huh?

[B]

No, it never.

[E]

Like Joe said, you never get that half percentage point back.

[B]

Okay, so the city's in for 162. The Wild are in for 162. The city and the Wild are seeking 200mil from the legislature with 125mil for the arena and 75mil for the auditorium. The Wild have agreed to cover any overruns and will continue managing the arena with an extended lease. Keeping them here. Get it? They're here. The backstory In March of 2025, city leaders and team officials went to state lawmakers asking for 384mil to pay for half of the planned 769mil. That pitch came up short and city officials later revised their plan, downgrading the project to 400 mil for the hockey building with only a $50 million ask in state funding. But that revised request failed to make its way into the budget. And again, this is where I would interject. Meanwhile, the budget was getting stuffed with money shuffled off into state programs that we have no idea if they work or not. Not to mention all the money that's been stolen. Grant Casino is one of the largest city owned assets. We're responsible for making sure it continues to anchor our downtown and economy. The mayor said that's Kali. Her this agreement ensures our facilities remain competitive. Well, you got Eric Clapton coming there in March or no, September. September. I mean there's. It's also a great concert venue and you know the circus, stuff like that. You know, world's toughest rodeo, monster trucks.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And she says I'm committed to being a good steward of taxpayer dollars. I have no reason yet to believe she's not. Although to my great disappointment, she kept that large cabinet invented by Mayor Carter that is full of job titles that cannot be measured for any accomplishment whatsoever. The framework is the most sustainable path to finish this project. While honoring that responsibility. I'm grateful to Craig. That's a good sign. The mayor's on first name basis will be. I'm grateful to Craig and the Minnesota Wild for their commitment to investing in our city and for being a key partner to revitalizing downtown. Now we will take this proposal to the legislature and ask for their support. Craig Leopold said the 25 year old building is due for modernization and he thinks it's an economic engine driving the city. Well, it is to the extent that the city's being driven. It's booked 150 nights a year. Wow.

[C]

So out of 365, what percentage is that?

[B]

He says like any 25 year old building, it's ready for an update and we're ready to invest. They're putting up the same Amount as the city in the fan and visitor experience, in event space, in safety and accessibility. We're thrilled that Mayor Herr shares our vision for creating an improved entertainment district in St. Paul and is moving the project forward. What we don't know is the timeline for the renovation has not yet been announced, and additional details about the legislative proposal have not been released. How can Minnesota, the state of hockey, lose a professional hockey team? Oh, we're talking about some documentary about the North Stars. When they left in 93, they had a documentary about that. I think it's hell, I'll even say I think it's great. What the hell I've done. I'm giving up. I'm done.

[E]

Did Craig also throw in that Hughes and Faber and Boldy were part of the U.S. olympic team? So it was actually the Wild that helped win the gold.

[B]

He didn't throw that in.

[A]

You mentioned the meeting that's taking place in St. Paul, and I do have an update for you on that meeting right now. Apparently, all seven female members of your St. Paul City Council raised the issue of hockey. Apparently, they don't want to support it because hockey doesn't have enough diversity. Too many white guys.

[E]

No, no, that didn't happen.

[B]

Is that really in there?

[A]

No, I threw that in.

[B]

See, I believe that you can't give

[E]

us stuff like that. That's too close.

[B]

I was. I was buying it.

[E]

That's too close.

[A]

That's all I could think of is

[B]

I could see these idiots say, that's the least diverse city council in America.

[E]

Toxic male Chris.

[A]

I know.

[E]

Toxic mail. One of them got his teeth knocked

[B]

out and kept playing. Too violent. You know why? Because these morons think diversity is only skin color. And they're the least diverse city council in America. Diversity also includes your ideology. And they all have exactly the same Marxist ideology. Socialist Marxist ideology. Same as in Minneapolis. There's not a thread of diversity in that city council.

[C]

Not a threat, business person.

[A]

Speaking of toughness, did you guys see the news today from Hillary Knight?

[B]

No.

[A]

She played the Olympics with a torn mcl.

[B]

That's cause she's a hockey player.

[A]

Could you imagine?

[C]

No. No other sport. No other sport.

[B]

So you know what, G Yellers, if that takes me down a notch on your scale, so be it. I used to fight the good fight. It didn't amount to much. I got fired. There's really no reason for me to continue that fight. You can't win. They're gonna be okay. There are. There are exceptions. There are a few ballpark stadiums in the country. That were financed by the ownership only.

[A]

I wonder.

[B]

I believe the new building in LA was, is a Walmart deal, isn't it, Cronkey? No, the new football stadium in la. I think Cronke built that. Yes, but I'm sure there's a 500 page legal addendum where he didn't pay for, you know, street lights and sidewalks and parking and groundskeeping and on and on and on and on and on and on. But he sunk a lot of money into that himself.

[E]

He did.

[A]

Yep, he did. I know. Well, the other thing too. You said 150 nights for the calendar year at the Grand Casino Arena. That'll obviously go up with a newer facility or an updated facility.

[B]

I would imagine some. Although they're not going to change much. They're going to fix her up. You're going to spiff her up. She's 26 years old.

[A]

Time to trade her in for a new one.

[B]

Yeah. How old are Target center? Target field is 16 years old. We got another five or six years before we'll have to fix that up.

[A]

US bank is already 10 years old.

[B]

US Bank's already 10 years old.

[C]

And just one Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah, you ain't getting another one.

[A]

Getting another.

[B]

That was a reward for building the damn thing. So to summarize, here we go. To summarize, we are burdened in this state by such an incompetent state government that we have witnessed billions and billions and billions of dollars being stolen right out from under us. It continues to be. I cannot see the result of the money that isn't stolen. All it's done is increase the size of government and the number of programs available ostensibly to help people who are not being helped. It's all as far as I'm concerned, the state government in this state is a scam. It's full of grifters who are pick in your pocket every chance they get. Here's a private building owner who's saying, here's what we're going to do. I'm putting in this much, the city's putting in this much. And now they're going to go with their hat in their hand to the legislature and try to convince them of the wisdom of this. And I hope they include in part of their address to the legislature. Look, compared to what you people are accomplishing up here, this can be measured for achievement. This can be seen, touched, enjoyed, used, occupied by everybody in the state of Minnesota, including high school hockey tournaments and you name it. And without it, we're a lesser, lesser place. All of which would be true statements. And there you are. So amen to that, brother.

[A]

Can you get an amen?

[B]

I don't need. I don't need an amen because I, you know, I. And as mayor of Garage Logic.

[C]

What do you got, meat?

[B]

We're not contributing any money to it. We just don't have any. We spent all our money on public works.

[E]

I have to admit, I was wondering what building, what organization within the community of Garage Logic would be eligible for this kind of taxpayer donation?

[B]

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I have to give Hans credit. Loyal listener Hans on the garagelogic town council talking about diversity. Do you guys remember this clip from a couple of years ago when there was a couple of Danish producers asked about a movie that they had created and this reporter asked this question.

[D]

This is a cast and a Danish production which is entirely Nordic, therefore has some lack of diversity, you would say, as also new rules implied. Hollywood, are you on to.

[E]

Sorry, but from the get go.

[B]

From the get go, there is some. Okay, well, first of all, the film takes place in denmark in the 1750s. Well, who was asking about diversity?

[A]

It was some. You know, the journalist, progressive reporter. He said, well, the film does take place.

[B]

It's Nordic and it's 1750. What the hell do you want?

[A]

Lack of diversity.

[B]

God almighty. Speaking of that, this might be a ray of hope.

[A]

I got it. Ready.

[B]

Well, Minnesota lawmakers are proposing removing the housing Stabilization Services from state statute. That's the dropdown in the Department of Human Services where there are 20 different programs. The ones we cited last, a minimum of 10 of them redundant due to fraud. The Walz administration already moved last year to terminate the HSS program, which is subject of extensive reporting. This is a Care11 piece in the state in the Senate Human Services Committee Monday afternoon. Yesterday, DFL State Senator the always available John I'm sorry, that was going to be John Marty, it's John Hoffman held a hearing on his bill to formally end this stabilization, if I'm understanding that correctly, would mean get rid of those 20 programs. They're not accomplishing anything. He also added an amendment to the bill that would require the legislature to approve any future terminations of Medicaid related programs. While I appreciate the governor's willingness to act quickly and decisively to stop the fraud, well John, God love you, you spent a lot of time recovering. The governor's acted neither quickly nor decisively about fraud at all. And Hoffman goes on to say it's only the legislature that can repeal a program established in statute. Hoff said this is a fundamental prerogative of the powers held by the legislative branch. The bill has bipartisan co sponsors and advance to his next committee stop. However, Republican Senator Jordan Rasmussen is among those raising concerns about the amendment requiring legislative oversight of future terminations in Medicare Medicaid programs. I'm just trying to understand the thought process, rasmussen asked DHS official Christy Graum on Monday. Would this type of language prevent you in the future from being able to address a program that has a high level of fraud in it? Grom told lawmakers that DHS will work to address the bill language moving forward, citing the potential for unintended consequences. That issue is the main point of disagreement among lawmakers in the House and Senate right now. Sounds to me like rather than allow DHS to instantly jump on fraud, it would have to go through the legislature first. Give both the department and the legislature authority to erase the fraud. Whoever sees it first gets to stop on it. The same bill in the House presented by GOP Representative Joe Schumacher already advanced in committee without any language requiring the legislature to approve future terminations. There's your law, John Hoffman Just say whoever sees fraud first gets to be the one who stomps on it first, right?

[C]

And once you get rid of it, that's when you can put it in the bank and run fraud.

[B]

And I hope I'm interpreting this correctly. It sounds like they're willing to sacrifice the housing stabilization program in the Department of Human Services. Great. Now go to all the other dropdowns and see what can be eliminated because it's not Resulting in anything. John Hoffman and the rest of you people trying to do the right thing, get to the bottom of this. You've got too many programs that are unaccountable, even if they're run honestly in terms of dispensing the money. There's still no way to determine if you've helped anybody. So please get to the bottom of that on the long road back to this state acquiring some fiscal recognition as being responsible. Okay, what do you want to do here? You want to take a time out?

[A]

Sure, we can do that.

[B]

Well, you have something, don't you? Or Kenny? Because I want to pause before I do this.

[E]

I'm trying to find a Senate file for the bill that he's proposing. Is there one? I am not having any luck.

[B]

Let me look.

[E]

I want to see the verbiage of this. I'm looking at everything that happened on Monday and I am not seeing it. Oh, wait. Was HA involved?

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

No, this is a natural.

[B]

Hoffman is deeply involved.

[E]

Yeah, I'll keep looking.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Are we pausing that? Is that what we're doing?

[B]

I am. Okay, sounds good.

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[C]

Super exciting.

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[C]

kenny, you know what's funny about those cameras?

[E]

What's that, Matthew?

[C]

You get to see all the fish you're not gonna catch.

[E]

I know.

[B]

Exactly. Chris, would you please play the traditional garage logic foghorn?

[A]

Okay, I can do that right here.

[B]

What is this? I think we're. I think. Give me the Duluth controversy. Give me the Duluth double.

[E]

That's the one you hear when the ship's coming through the canal. They give you that one.

[B]

Now I'm gonna play you a new one that Kenny has provided. And I'm wondering if it should replace our foghorn with this new sounder. What boat is this again, Gabe? The Barker is The James Barker 1000 footer coming through the canal in Duluth. And here's its foghorn.

[E]

I have to go to the bathroom. I'll be right back.

[B]

Wow. Now it's not done. Now that's a bright sunny day. I think the captain was doing that for the tourists.

[E]

No, they. This goes on between every ship at the harbor. They always talk to each other in this manner.

[A]

What are they saying?

[B]

I think. I think. I think we better keep our old one because that one's way too long.

[C]

And then there's the ultimate foghorn.

[B]

This would be the ultimate.

[E]

A different one, Joe, when they're leaving.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Then it's a tad bit different. Then it's pretty cool.

[B]

This boat is a thousand feet long. So since 1958, when the Fitz was built, we've added 300ft to these tubs.

[C]

What's the first name of the Barker?

[B]

James R. Barker. James R. Barker. I think it would be interesting to know who he is and why the boat was named for him.

[E]

Why don't you look it up, pal?

[B]

He's got. I have people to do that. And he's looking at that now. We're in touch with.

[A]

He's gonna find an English professor in, you know, Scotland.

[B]

Yesterday. I said yesterday, in defending the idea that you need an ID to vote, I don't find that an outrageous request. And people are saying, no, voting is a constitutional right. You shouldn't have to display id. Okay. And a couple of emailers have answered that. This is from Downing. On Monday's podcast, there was talk about what a right, about what was a right and whether people should have to show their ID to exercise a right. Well, isn't owning a gun explicitly a right? But as far as I can tell, you better be prepared to show your ID if you want to buy one. Okay. And then this emailer, Jeff Pedro, writes, I believe the phrase that was missing from the argument yesterday was constitutional right. I agree with you on voter ID and believe it is absolutely necessary. However, I think a better argument may be to compare it to a constitutional right, such as the right to bear arms. You absolutely need identification to apply for a permit to purchase a firearm, assuming you are following the legal procedure. This, like voting, is a right that is guaranteed in the Constitution. However, this right requires providing identification. So, yes, the argument that voting should not require identification because it is constitutionally guaranteed falls apart when contrasted with the second Second Amendment. We'll turn to John Height because I bet he wants to throw a punch at this.

[D]

Oh, I get so tired of this conversation.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Dan McGrath will probably be writing us, I'm sure.

[B]

Yeah. What do you think about that?

[D]

Well, I think. Okay, I'm. I'm with you. If you give every citizen a voter id, just give them a voter ID

[B]

that you'd have to apply for, presumably.

[D]

Yes, but you don't have to pay for it.

[B]

Okay, that's fine. I'm with you so far. And I would add dmv, they check your paperwork. I would. I would add this. When you're applying for it, your citizenship is verified.

[D]

Yeah, well, certainly. Yeah, okay. It would have to be.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And here's the things that bugged me about in this conversation. What's become part of this conversation is the Save America act, right, that has passed the House. It does not pass the Senate. You cannot, under the Save America act, show your driver's license and vote. You cannot just show that ID and vote. You have to have more proof than

[B]

that, which makes sense, because in this state, we give driver's licenses to people who aren't citizens.

[D]

Okay, but then. Then you're gonna have to get a passport that costs money. Sorry. Against anything that makes you spend money.

[B]

All right.

[D]

For a voter ID of any kind.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Okay. You have to get a passport or a birth certificate to take with.

[B]

This is all in this proposed act called the SAVE Act.

[D]

Yeah. It's already passed that.

[B]

Right, Right.

[D]

Or a birth certificate. The birth certificate part of it is an issue because you have to exactly match the photo ID you bring with you. So, for instance, my wife could not do that because her ID says a different name than her birth certificate. So she would not be allowed to vote when she brought that.

[B]

Would they change her name when she was a kid?

[A]

Well, she got married.

[D]

She got married to me.

[C]

She's not like my wife.

[B]

Oh, I see. I see.

[D]

Yeah. 69 million women, incidentally, in that boat right now in America.

[E]

So if do we want them voting anyway? John.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

Wait, wait, stop. Pause.

[B]

John.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Ladies. Joke. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, that was joke. Yeah.

[E]

I don't feel that in my heart.

[D]

I know Kenny, and he's just joking. Ladies. Trust me. I think. Okay. Anyway, just. If you give me, you give everybody in this show a voter id.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

And you prove you're a citizen. Yeah. Great. Then. Then if I have to show up on election day and show it, I'm more than happy.

[B]

Okay. I, I, I like what you've said. I believe, I believe that should be done.

[D]

Now, here's the other thing, and it

[B]

has to be free.

[D]

I had one more thing that bugs me about this. Of course. Yeah. The election laws of America are allegedly a state thing.

[B]

Not allegedly, they are a state thing.

[D]

Well, then we have 30, what, four, five, six states with voter ID laws. The other 14 have decided they don't want them. So we're asking then the federal government to come in and take care of this. Right. Which to me indicates. I'm just saying.

[B]

Well, I think that's interesting because I think what would happen in Minnesota would be to reject the federal intrusion.

[D]

Correct.

[B]

Suggesting that Minnesota better have voter ID because this state's been taken over by mysterious. They would not see it.

[A]

I need, I'm sorry, Johnny. I need to ask you a question because I'm on the White House's website.

[D]

Yes, sir.

[A]

This says either a valid ID before registering to vote in a federal election. Proof of citizenship. I don't see anything about the passport deal.

[D]

Well, you have to have, you can bring a picture id, but you won't be allowed to vote with that. So then you have to have something that proves you're a citizen, meaning a birth Certificate.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry. Gotcha.

[D]

Or a passport. Gotcha. Et cetera, et cetera.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah. So if you just show up with your license, they're going to say, well, I'm sorry, if this law would pass.

[A]

I can hear the steam rolling out of Dan's ear.

[D]

Oh, Dan's gonna. Don't worry, we'll get emails from Dan.

[B]

What? What is it? What would he be finding wrong?

[D]

I. I don't know.

[A]

We don't know. We'll find out.

[D]

He might just. And sometimes he just sends me emails to say hi and give me a little joke. Yeah, so he might do that too.

[B]

It would not bother me if I had to have a card. I just have to get one.

[D]

Yeah, well, everybody would at this point.

[B]

And I supposed to get one. I have to go to the state's version of the DMV and show them a birth certificate and get a card.

[D]

I think we just know. Let's just start a new department and we can all show up.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[A]

Give me the voting department. Yeah. John, your gal Kristi Noem was asked about this very thing from Senator Chris Coons. He is from the Delaware area, Joe. And she was asked about this very thing requiring border id.

[B]

You rule out the deployment of ICE or CBP to polling places this November. There are no plans to have ICE officers at our polling locations. And I'm glad you hear that. But would you rule it out? Would you say it will not happen? Do you plan on illegal aliens voting in our elections?

[A]

That was a pretty good back and forth.

[B]

Let me tell you something.

[A]

Talk to me, Goose.

[B]

Let me tell you something. If I was. Go ahead, John.

[D]

I was just going to say we got a message from our buddy who works there that sometimes emails us real id. An enhanced id he said would work, but it won't. If you go look at the Save America act, it will not work for Lori.

[B]

Let me tell you something.

[A]

Check it out.

[B]

If I was president, nobody who worked for me would think kindly of me

[E]

because, well, that's kind of how it is right now.

[C]

And you're just a fake man.

[B]

No, here's why. Here's why nobody would think kindly of me. You ain't getting your own plane. You ain't having a custom made bed put in your own plane. You're gonna get in line. Christy, if you gotta fly to Minneapolis, buy a ticket, we'll pay for the ticket. But you get in line with the rest of the people at Reagan and get on the plane and go to Minneapolis, there'd be no gold curtains. There'd be no ballrooms. There'd be no special meals. There'd be information. You're gonna do the work that you're supposed to be doing, Cash Patel. You're not gonna show up all of a sudden in the loc. They didn't even know who you were. You're going to be doing FBI work and none of you people are going to be getting any perks whatsoever. We're going to really. I have that budget so trimmed down, this country would be affordable again.

[A]

Would you still update the Hockey arena in St. Paul?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yes, I would.

[A]

I would stamp it.

[B]

That's okay.

[C]

I always thought I'd want you to run for president, but now I don't want.

[B]

There'd be no. None of this BS. You're not going to have 14 assistants.

[E]

You hire Elon Musk to take care of all these measures. No, look for.

[B]

I would not. I would not.

[D]

His path says he probably wouldn't do.

[B]

I don't think I would do that. I would not do that. But nobody that worked for me would be happy. And I think that would be the mark of a good government.

[A]

Which one are you?

[B]

No one would be happy.

[E]

We can kind of see that, Joe.

[B]

Yeah, we understand. Yeah. Well, it's got you guys in shape, so it's has it though. Maybe not you, but most of the

[E]

others taught us how to cheat a little better.

[B]

No, no, we're not cheating on this show.

[D]

A little better.

[B]

But this, this Christy gnome, man, she takes the cake, you know, no special outfits. That would be another one of my. You know, if you're in Wyoming, you don't get to dress up like a Annie Oakley.

[E]

So now you're going with dress.

[B]

I am. I'm going to get right down to fashion and. Did you say. Yeah, you can't dress up like Annie Oakley if you're in Wyoming. You don't get a big 10 gallon hat.

[C]

You have to wear those grandma nylons that you pull up to your knees. And the grand.

[E]

What about a cheer? What if she puts on a cheerleading outfit depending where she is, Chris, Would that be okay?

[A]

I endorse that. I endorse that.

[C]

He's saying you got to dress like Hillary Clinton.

[B]

Oh, and this, this pipsqueak that ran around here thinking he was a German chancellor. This Bovino guy, he doesn't get the theatrical overcoat with the Sam Brown belt. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm. I'm gonna interfere.

[E]

What about one of those Tamil hat, those funny Tamo Hat things.

[B]

Can you wear one of those? No, no, no.

[A]

So you want military uniforms for all personnel.

[B]

If they're engaged in military activities, they have to be identified as such. You can't show up in your zubas. Okay. You know that's just not going to work, right? I, I, I'd run a tight ship.

[E]

I'm wearing sweatpants right now.

[A]

Let's.

[B]

Yeah, but you know, you're not working for the president. You're, I don't, you're, I don't know where you are. I don't even know what building you're in. I, I have no idea where this is. It's in the country, as it should be. It's a secret location, the way it should be. There's a laundromat in there somewhere. I know that. We hear that once in a while, but other than that. Other than that I have no idea. Do you want to go get Johnny Height?

[A]

I do. All right, but first I want to talk about we are nuts and we are nutsmn.com. you know what the go to is the original toffee peanuts. That's what started it all, Joe. Way back when this family owned operation said, I didn't know that, let's try something different. And they did. And now, my goodness gracious, I had some dill pickle peanuts the other day.

[B]

That doesn't do it for me.

[A]

No, I know. You think to yourself, well that's a state fair bit, right? No, no, no. That's a year round treat. The dill pickle. Do you like dill pickle? Sunflower seeds?

[B]

I just go ahead with your ad.

[A]

You don't like dill pickle?

[B]

I'm not a pickle guy.

[A]

Okay, well there you go.

[B]

I mean I like pickles, just not a big deal, but not with my nuts. Hey now,

[A]

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[D]

I don't know.

[C]

She's still on the scene.

[E]

Still.

[A]

Hey, here's a man who spends hours

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[E]

It's a nice cleansing breath after what Matthew just subjected us to. Off the air, isn't it?

[B]

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This news brought to you by North American Banking Company. I was just reading more about IDs because now it'll drive me nuts. Of course. And I'll be looking at it all day. There are only five states that have enhanced driver's licenses.

[B]

Really? We're one of them.

[D]

Those actually, yes. Minnesota, Michigan, New York, Vermont and Washington. Those do show citizenship representing about 14% of the US population. Real IDs cannot be used to vote because they don't. And in fact, some people who are not actually citizens have real IDs, so you can't use real IDs to vote. So.

[B]

All right, there you go.

[D]

Now let me go back to the news here.

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People go by there and there's great big bubbles. Big bubbles. Yep.

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I don't know if I said this already, but this news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. Yesterday, Minnesota sued President Trump's administration in an attempt to stop it from withholding 243 million in Medicaid spending. Warning it may have to cut health care for low income families of the funding is held back. The lawsuit asked a US Court in Minneapolis to issue a temporary restraining order to block the withholding from Medicaid, which is the health care safety net for low income Americans. The move came after Vice President J.D. vance said last week the administration would, in his words, temporarily halt some Medicaid funding in Minnesota over fraud concerns.

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What is the answer there? Because I get it that there are a number of people that do rely

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on this very simple. I told you the other day, you write the letter to Vance saying, here's our plan. We guarantee you that we're going to be monitoring this money.

[D]

This morning, under questioning by Senator Amy Klobuchar, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem said there are about 650 federal agents still in Minnesota after the administration announced that Operation Metro Surge was winding down. Down. Noem claims she did not stop a civil rights investigation into the fatal shootings here in Minnesota. A response comes as the Justice Department has confirmed there is a civil rights investigation into the fatal shooting of Alex Pretty. However, it's unclear if they've opened a similar investigation into the fatal shooting of Renee Good. Under questioning, Gnome refused to retract her assessment that Good and Pretty were domestic terrorists when asked to do so by a Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Use of a chemical irritant by US Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino is among 17 instances of what's being called potential unlawful behavior. The Hennepin County Attorney, Mary Moriarty, made that announcement yesterday at a news conference. Moriarty announced the creation of the Transparency and Accountability Project, which will give citizens the ability to submit to the Hennepin County Attorney's Office any evidence of behavior by federal agents that might have been unlawful. The project will be staffed by county prosecutors, a civilian investigator, and is already investigating 17 incidents involving federal agents here in Minnesota. U.S. attorney for Minnesota Daniel Rosen appeared in federal court for a contempt hearing today. The hearing came after U.S. district Judge Jeffrey Bryant ordered the federal government to return property that he'd been taken from people who were detained by ICE. The government was given until 2-27-6 to comply. But Brian stated in his order Schedule a contempt hearing. That they still had not. The downtown St. Paul courtroom was packed with counsel for nearly two dozen petitioners, as well as members of the media. The questioning between the judge and Rosen got off to a tense start. The judge said he was hopeful he wouldn't have to hold Rosen in contempt, something the judge said would be a low point for the U.S. attorney's office. Rosen is contended the court doesn't have the ability to hold him in contempt and accuse the judge of smearing him. And Assistant U.S. attorney David Fuller, who serves as the acting chief of the Civil Rights Division of the Minnesota U.S. attorney's office.

[B]

So let's get this straight. All these guys in Zubas, they were taking people's phones and wallets and what have you. Give them back. That's what this is about. Get it back to the people you took it from. Thank you.

[D]

Welcome. And one concert announcement. Nobody's gonna be excited about this one except me.

[B]

Okay. Oh, God, here we go.

[D]

I've been waiting for this one forever. Because for many, many years, Burton Cummings and Randy Backman were trying to get the name of the Guess who back.

[B]

Well, I'm not going to complain about this one.

[D]

In essence, there was a cover band calling themselves the Guess who, who had only the Guess whose drummer from the 1970s. Well, they've been out touring in Canada. That is Burton Cummings and Randy Backman. Now they're going to come to North America, and the first stop, it's here in the Twin Cities where they'll be playing at the new Mystic Lake Amphitheater in Shakopee. Tickets go on sale later this week, the concert slated for June 25. Former Eagles guitarist Don Felder will open the show. Show. The last time that Backman and Cummings toured the US as the Guess who was in 2001 alongside Joe Cocker. Part of the delay in returning stemmed from a trademark dispute with their former bandmates who used the Guess who name. Settlement was reached in September 2024, giving Backman and Cummings the trademark.

[B]

So they're coming back here as the Guess who.

[D]

That is correct. It's those two. And then it's fellas who've been playing with co Comings for the past, what, years or so.

[E]

What are you. I'm not. There's no punchline here. I'm not trying to down or insult you. What about this show are you looking forward to the most? The songs, the artists, the combination. What? What is it?

[D]

I. Well, I. A huge Guess who fan. I love all the songs. I'll be looking forward to that and I'm also looking forward. I thought Burton Cummings had one of the best voices.

[B]

Me too.

[D]

Yeah, and he still sings well I'm on all of his, you know his website and all that stuff.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

So I'm interested to see what he sounds like. I'm going to guess he sounds very

[A]

good but Johnny Cool since the drummer was out with other. Did they all hate each other? Is that what happened here?

[D]

It ended up to be. I don't know if you remember we talked about this when it happened the get the two Backman and Burton Cummings sued so that because they own the rights to all the music and this bar band. Well, I shouldn't call them Barbin, that's being meant but the band that called itself the Guests who were playing all the old hits they sued Cummings and Backman so that the band could never play their songs. So here you're going to see the Guess who but they can't do any of the hits.

[B]

Do you remember the documentary on some Canadian people, Canadian guys who were trying to become hard rock stars and they. It was, it was, it was, was. It was sad. The documentary was sad because these guys never got a break. They couldn't get anywhere.

[A]

Were they good?

[B]

They were pretty good. Is anybody. Is that ringing a bell with anybody? No, it's not. Oh man. Ruck, get on it.

[D]

Did you.

[B]

Did you guys documentary about Canadian hard rock band that always fell on hard times? Yes, John.

[D]

I have always called him Randy Bachman, as everybody I know ever did. And then I saw an interview with him where he complained because people called him that. He said, my name's Bachman. It always has been.

[B]

Well, not. No, it isn't Randy, it's Bachman. I'm going to call him Backman.

[D]

I saw some interviews with Burton Cummings where he said, well, me and Backman are getting back together.

[B]

Yeah, but that's just a Canadian affectation. His name's Randy Bachman.

[A]

The story of Anvil.

[C]

Anvil is who it is.

[E]

Oh, anvil, yeah.

[C]

2008 Kanati Canadian rock.

[B]

Sad as hell.

[A]

All I got is that they go

[B]

home and his mom would say, well, did you get anywhere? No Ma, we didn't. We.

[E]

What's your supper, Mom? Yeah, My dream, John. I share. You kind of share your dream. I want Uncle Tupelo to reform and I will drive to anywhere in North America that they're playing to see that.

[B]

Isn't that Wilco?

[E]

It's Wilco and Sun Volt. It's Ferrar and Tweety Broke.

[D]

I did get. I did not get that today, Kenny in the mail, but I got an email about Wilco announcing about 40 new dates for this.

[E]

Yeah, sweeties out there.

[B]

Can I get back to Anvil for a moment?

[C]

Trudeau receives a. What else did you asking Anvil to play a concert in Japan. Excitedly, the group returns to the site that marked the highlight of their career. Their spirits are dampened when they realize they are the very first act at a three day festival. Taking the stage at 11:30am Fearing disaster, the group overtakes the stage to a large receptive crowd. But you know, 11:30 on the first day.

[B]

Do they still exist? I don't think they do.

[E]

That's just a challenge. You've got to light your hair on fire. You've got to make an impression. Something outrageous.

[B]

They tried everything. It was just. It was just sad. It was. It was fascinating to watch, you have to admit.

[E]

11:30, that's kind of.

[B]

That's rough.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

They are still performing. It looks like Joe, although the guitarist died in 2023, probably from heartbre, released an album in 2024. And then another guitarist, yikes, died in 2024.

[B]

Another heartbreak.

[E]

Last Words. Woe Is Me.

[C]

The current band.

[E]

Steve.

[C]

Lips Kudlo. Lips Kudlo 78 to present. Rob Robble Reiner. Nice nickname. That's a self.

[E]

Nick.

[C]

Hey, Robble. Robble78 to present on the tubs. And Chris Robertson base, backing and lead vocals. 2014 to present.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Huh. Interesting.

[B]

Well, I got a sway lead there. I'm sorry, John, can you.

[D]

All right, let's take a broke. A broke.

[B]

Let's take a break here.

[A]

That's the Canadian band did that.

[D]

Yeah, the Broke. Let's listen to. Let's listen to Mr. McCall.

[C]

You know, 1904 was a pretty crazy year. Very nutty. Teddy Roosevelt won a U.S. presidential election in a landslide. The St. Louis World's Fair debuted innovations like the ice cream cone.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The electric typewriter.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

And key events included the opening of the New York City subway.

[E]

You don't say. What else happened?

[C]

Say welter heating began its 122 years.

[B]

Do you think when somebody's doing this in another state, they would mention welter heating as part of 1904?

[E]

Why did you just put a stick into his spokes? That was, you know, it was also

[C]

the year of Dr. Seal Joe rookie 9 million. Dr. Seuss who said, don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened. They've been smiling at Welter since 1904, ladies and gentlemen, if you're crying because your heating unit or AC unit doesn't work properly, well, get in touch with welter [e-mail] they have a human being that will answer the phone during business hours and you can talk to them about 1904. Ask for written 612-825-6867. That's four generations, 122 years. They are the Twin Cities most trusted H VAC services. And you know what? They've got certified reps that'll come out 247 and help with your unit. Heating, cooling. Maybe it's air purification Systems. Online at welterheating.com 612-825-6867 and don't forget, when you're thinking about the the band group Anvil, don't forget about the opening band, wild eat coyote. Walterheating.com what?

[D]

Let's move along.

[E]

There should be an award for that one.

[C]

Appreciate that.

[A]

That's pretty good. John, before you. Before you move on back to Medicaid for just a quick moment, apparently, breaking right now, Dr. Mehmet Oz and Vice President J.D. fance have just announced. This is just happening. That they are launching a $124 billion investigation into new York's Medicaid program. I just looked it up. That's what they spend annually in New York.

[B]

And most of it's fraudulent.

[A]

I bet $124 billion.

[C]

Dang.

[E]

Wow.

[D]

Billion.

[A]

It's between. And I looked it up. It averages between 116 and $124 billion.

[B]

Can you imagine how wealthy the average person in this country would be if we had a competent government at the state, federal and regional levels?

[E]

Find me one state.

[C]

There would be no poor, Joe. There would be no poor.

[E]

Find me one state where there isn't fraud.

[A]

That's a good point. Oh, my goodness.

[D]

If the government just took care of infrastructure and the things they're supposed to to.

[B]

That's it, John. That's your right.

[D]

Just do it. Take care of it. If somebody breaks the law, you arrest

[B]

them, fix the damn pothole and arrest that drugstore thief.

[E]

I think that happens a lot in the smaller communities. I think like Joe has always said, the tall buildings.

[A]

That's speaking of fixing pot.

[C]

They handle it themselves in smaller towns is what you're saying.

[B]

Well, they follow the rules.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

There was oh, go ahead.

[E]

The mayor owns the local engine shop and drives the snowplow when the snow.

[B]

You know, just like in gl.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

There was a viral video that California does have a machine. It's a very like $20 million machine that can repair potholes, basically, as it drives and it's inactive and there's two homeless guys sleeping underneath it. You have to look it up.

[C]

Sleeps too.

[A]

When it's idle. It's hysterical. I'll try to find.

[B]

I did.

[A]

I saw it over the weekend.

[D]

National and international news. President Trump said yesterday the U.S. s war with Iran is expected to continue for four to five weeks. It could extend, he said, past that point if needed. That statement comes as Iran continued to launch retaliatory strikes, including in Israel and countries hosting US Bases like Qatar, Bahrain and the uae. The president outlined four objectives. Destroying Iran's missile capabilities, wiping out its Navy Navy, preventing access to a nuclear weapon, and removing its ability to fund proxy militias. The administration did not rule out sending ground troops, although the president later said they hopefully would not be necessary. Meanwhile, the US Government closed embassies in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait today and ordered non essential staff in several other countries to evacuate as Iran expanded its retaliatory attacks on US Targets in the Gulf region. Those attacks sent two warplanes into Qatari airspace, drone attacks against a Saudi oil refinery and against the US Embassy in Riyadh, missile strikes in Kuwait and the UAE and ongoing strikes toward Israel. Meanwhile, we're finding out those first U.S. service members to die in the conflict were killed by a direct Iranian strike on a makeshift operations center at a civilian port in Kuwait Sunday morning local time. Sources say the death toll from the attack at the Shuaba port has now gone up to six. The US Central Command announcing yesterday afternoon after the remains of two additional service members were recovered. Earlier Monday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had said the strike that killed the service members had hit a tactical operations center that was fortified. The attack, apparently there was a direct hit just after 9am on the center of the building, being described as sources by just a triple wide trailer with office space inside. The attack came quickly and with no warning or sirens to alert troops to evacuate, situate or get into a bunker.

[B]

I think this war started on October 7, 2023. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I'd look at it.

[D]

The stock market, global markets tumbling today, the price of oil surging, the widening conflict in the Middle east set a shudder through the world economy. As of this hour, the Dow Jones down about 413 points that's better than this morning.

[B]

It was down a thousand.

[D]

Yeah, it was between 8 and 1000 continuously. The NASDAQ right now down about 240 and the S&P at down 65.

[A]

You'll have to pay attention to Mr. MoneyTalk today because he cites that, but said there are signs, encouraging signs. You'll have to listen for that later.

[D]

Voters in Texas cast ballots today in a pair of hotly contested primary races, choosing their candidates to face off for a U.S. senate seat in November. They are the most expensive such races in U.S. history with more than $110 million already spent in total for Republicans. Incumbent John Corden is seeking his fifth term in the seat. He's been locked in a combative three way race for the Republican nod with Attorney General Ken Paxton and Representative Wesley Hunt. Paxton, who survived a 2023 impeachment on bribery and corruption charges, enters the day with a four point lead over Cornyn. On the Democratic side, Representative Jasmine Crockett faces Representative James Talarico. Each tried to build a multiracial coalition in a state where Democrats haven't defended a statewide office since 1994. Separately, Representative Ryan Zinke of Montana announced he will not run for re election. He's citing health issues. He joins a growing list of Republicans retiring before the 2026 midterm.

[B]

Talia Rico would be a vast improvement over Jasmine Crockett.

[D]

The father of a teenage boy accused of killing four people in a shooting rampage at a high school in Georgia has been found guilty of murder, child cruelty and other charges. You might remember this case. We talked about it when this all happened. 55 year old Colin Gray pleaded not guilty to 29 charges against him stemming from the 2024 attack that left two teachers and two students dead in winter. Georgia prosecutors argued gray was the one person who could have prevented the shooting by his 14 year old son. His son, Colt Gray, is currently awaiting trial for the attack. During the trial, the jury heard how Colin Gray had bought his son an AR style rifle for Christmas the year before the attack. Even though the boy had been questioned by police just seven months earlier about online threats to commit a school shooting. Prosecutors argued he ignored numerous warning signs, including a notebook detailing how his son said he planned to kill students and teachers. His lawyers tried to shift blame to the son, lawyers saying this is the person who went into the high school and shot and killed four people he didn't know and injured scores of others said this is the person who needs to be punished. He made a conscious decision to do this A secretive decision.

[B]

Yeah, That's a sharp dad there for you.

[D]

In Great Britain, a sinkhole that opened up on a golf course has exposed an abandoned wine cellar.

[B]

Oh, this is so neat. I've seen the videos. Yeah.

[D]

Believed to have been sealed for more than 100 years, staff at the Davy Holm Park Golf Club in Trafford, Greater Manchester, found the brick cellar filled with empty glass bottles of different shapes and sizes under the course's 13th hole.

[C]

Empty. Empty glass bottle. That was somebody's speakeasy getaway.

[B]

This was their man cave.

[C]

I'm going golfing.

[D]

Seller is believed to have once formed part of Davy Holm hall manor house, which was demolished in 1888. Steve Hopkins is the deputy head green keeper at what is believed to be the fourth oldest club in the country. He made the discovery on his morning inspection. Said I was basically the first person to go in there in over 100 years. Steve said after spotting the sinkhole, he consulted with the greenskeeper and decided to excavate the area with a small digger. He said when you find a sinkhole on the course, it usually means a drain has collapsed. So we were thinking it's just a drain that needs digging out and clearing and repairing. But as we dug deeper, the chasm underneath just opened up. He said he and his colleagues then noticed a brick structure. He was able to climb inside and look around with a torch and found dozens of empty glass wine bottles.

[B]

A torch being a flashlight.

[D]

Yeah, flashlight.

[B]

Oh, I had him with a. I know you did.

[C]

Yep.

[E]

Like Gilligan's Island.

[C]

Yeah, 100%.

[B]

Well, you trump better not hope this happens in one of his golf courses. He'll find ex wives.

[E]

Would you steal that joke you've been

[B]

saving that just made that up. Right.

[A]

Really?

[C]

You do comedy show.

[D]

They're all. He said the bottles were all odd shapes and stuff, so they're obviously extremely old bottles. Seems to the structure was in part of the course, fittingly known as the sellers, and it's believed to have been a tradesman entrance. He said one end of the cellar has a door which has been blocked, potentially leading to a bigger set of structures.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

You know it.

[D]

According to Trafford Council, Davy Holm hall was built by the Holm family in the century. 12th, 12th century. It was inherited by Robert Henry Norris, who is believed to have founded the golf club on the grounds in 1844. According to the club, Norris died in 1887 and Davy Holm hall was bequeathed to his nephew, JBN Entwistle of Rochdale, who unsuccessfully tried to sell it. The hall was then demolished in 1888. Some of the land stood on, that it stood on was bought by the golf club in 1980.

[C]

Do you think the first guy that was quoted saying, I was the first guy to walk down there in the last 100 years is telling everybody, but then the guy behind him. Why was the second guy that was walked in there after 100 years right here? Don't you think he was a pain in the ass though percent telling everybody that?

[B]

No, he goes back to the bar. I was the first guy that walked

[C]

in there 100 years.

[E]

You know, Keep trying to make it work, Matt.

[B]

Don't give up.

[C]

I'm trying.

[B]

1904.

[A]

It'll fit eventually.

[B]

What about the third guy?

[A]

Yeah, what did he say?

[D]

Yeah, what did he say, John?

[E]

All those stories, guys, were all those bottles empty?

[B]

I think I thought there were some still some full ones.

[D]

I did not see anything in the story. And I looked and they showed a bunch of pictures and all I saw were empty bottles. So maybe they cleared it out before.

[C]

Yeah, I would have done that too. You see that little scotch sitting over

[D]

there in the corner grabbed it all.

[E]

Well, you wouldn't have to alert authorities, would you?

[B]

It's not private property, John. Thank you so much.

[E]

Oh, we're done with that. So you go straight.

[C]

I already burned it up. I went to the dead end already.

[E]

There's two of us.

[B]

Hey, guess who's back.

[A]

Guess who.

[B]

Eco Fun. Eco Fun Motorsports. Because riding season is damn near back. The roads are melting. I think it's the Christmas snow is melting. The roads are clearing and Eco Fun is fired up for the spring riding season. Both Forest Lake and Burnsville locations packed with scooters, motorcycles, ATVs side by sides. Electric bikes. This is the most fun store you'll ever spend time in. Preseason sale right now on electric bikes starting at 899, over 400 bikes in stock. Kaylin. That's Tim Bloom's daughter. She's the electric bike queen of the world. She's available at the showroom to fit you the correct size bike. Over 130 motorcycles on display called Motorcycle Alley, including Moto Guzzi, V7s and preseason sales starting at 71.99. I think I could have one more motorcycle in my life. I think it'd be that Moto Gucci.

[C]

You implement the 48 hour rule, you're set.

[B]

Yeah, get a free trailer. 1500 buck value when you get a jet ski or a waverunner. 25 different models in stock to get ready for your life on water. These things are all at Ecofund and Forest Lake or bur. Make sure you tell owner Tim Bloom that Joe sent you. And check out the full [e-mail] in Forest Lake. That's right on 97 west of 35. And down in Burnsville, on the service road of life near County Road 42, The earth is not your mother. The Joe Suger race show.

[E]

Joe Sushire, Mayor of garage logic. The St. Paul Public Works Department just tweeted you. Well, actually, they tweeted to you two hours ago. It says, rough road conditions. Drive with caution. Crews have posted rough road signage on a few arterial street segments in city of St. Paul. Drive carefully. Stay alert for loose pavement, potholes and patching. Crews that are working on the roads report potholes to potholes at St. Paul gov. Now, they show a picture. One of the pictures, I believe, is Vandalia, because I see Gopher Plumbing supply there. So aren't they on Vandalia between 94 and University?

[C]

Yeah, they're very close. Yeah.

[E]

And the roads, they show goat trail. I mean, Roman roads uncovered now, thousands of years later are better than what I'm seeing in St. Paul.

[A]

Kenny, when you take Eustace leaving here to get on two acres, you have to dodge all the holes in the street.

[C]

It's worse when you go down the hill next to. What is that golf club down there

[A]

by the River Club?

[C]

Yeah, Town of Country.

[A]

It's a par three, isn't it?

[C]

Yeah, it's the one. It's a stop sign at the bottom of Pelham Boulevard. Yeah, those are.

[B]

Can I tell you something on the moon? I'll tell you something about that.

[C]

What?

[B]

I purposely go one mile an hour if that. That over that stretch. And I find that the cars behind me do not get angry because they realize I'm doing everybody, everybody a favor. It's just because of that.

[C]

Well, that's there that they can't.

[B]

I don't know.

[E]

Here's what I've learned from riding a dirt bike is you just put your butt on the back fender, get on the throttle, get the front wheel really light, and then just skip over all of them. And so I would do that. My truck, where you're going one, I would be going 50, and you kind of just skip over all of them.

[B]

I asked you earlier in the show if you could provide us with the identity of James Barker, for whom that 1000 ship with the delightful foghorn is named. Who is James Barker?

[C]

He was a American shipping businessman. He was the chairman of the Interlake Steamship Company. And sea streak management consultant. He grew up spending summers with his uncle who was a boat captain in Sault St. Marie, Michigan, working on the ships in the Great Lakes. He graduated from Columbia in 57 and became a coast guard officer. Then he went to Harvard Business School and he worked for a raw materials production and shipping company.

[B]

Thank you very much.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You know what the dumbest phrase is right now in the country?

[D]

Please.

[B]

Boy, you better fill up now before the gas prices go up. Now just think about that.

[C]

If I had a dime, huh?

[B]

So you get it for 299 today. Yeah. So what.

[C]

What's your number?

[B]

The next, the next time you fill up it's gonna be 3:30, right? What are you not going to get? Gas.

[C]

What's your number?

[E]

You are the only person on the planet that argues this point of view. I've never met anybody other than you

[C]

that has said, what do you mean that he. That you don't care. You're just going to gas up anyway.

[E]

You're always going to get gas.

[B]

Well, absolutely, which is why it's such a stupid thought. Boy, you better get it now. What? And you're going to save $0.72 total, right?

[C]

And then next week when you need

[B]

to fill up again, what are you not going to get? Gas.

[E]

Get gas.

[C]

I got to get to work.

[B]

The straight of Hormuz. No oil is flowing through it right now. The ships are. Are not moving. And that apparently will, even though we have plenty of gas, we'll be told that there's a shortage and then the prices will go up.

[C]

Pirates.

[B]

No.

[E]

Dubai and uae. Joe. Dubai and UAE are right there. They're not going to let this go on for long.

[B]

You wouldn't think so. When I said earlier that this is a war that started In October of 23, I believe it has. And you ever read George Will?

[E]

Only occasionally.

[B]

George Will has been a reliable, consistent opponent of Trump. But George Will is saluting this. One reason is for 40 years this is a country that has as its hallmark death to America. I don't like that phrase. And the world is bound to be a better place without Iran. What remains at issue is if that'll happen.

[C]

Meaning what though you took out the Supreme Leader, they're going to replace him with.

[B]

Well, we blew up a meeting where they were trying to meet who's going to be the next Supreme Leader.

[C]

I'm for that.

[B]

So what the next five weeks hold

[C]

could be the double assistant leader.

[B]

Crazy.

[E]

Here's, here's what I propose. I think America, the United States of America should take over Iran. I think Trump should run it the way he's running the country. I think all we need is a good name sand America or I don't

[C]

know, something put it to the kids. Like when you're naming the snowplow, didn't

[B]

that used to be Persia? Correct, it was. Can you think of the thousands of years of culture there that have been squandered and denigrated by these mullahs?

[C]

Do they still make good rugs?

[B]

I have no idea. But it's just, it's a 2000 year old problem. I don't know how it's going to be solved. I don't know how it's going to end up. But all I know is it's really dumb to say fill your tank now. That's all I know.

[C]

You're just making conversation at that point. You're not really.

[E]

You are going to die on that, on that.

[B]

Just don't worry about it. You know you're going to get it this week or next week. You're going to get gas.

[A]

It's like what you always say, drink water when you're thirsty.

[E]

But you do you not understand the joys of having a 25 gallon tank bank and you just filled up and it's less than $70. Do you have any idea how good that feels?

[A]

It's a small victory, Joe.

[E]

It's amazing, Joe. It's a wonderful. You wonder why did the pump shut off? Not only I'm only at $64.

[B]

You know, I've got a really odd problem at one of the two gas stations where I have earned pay inside privileges.

[C]

I don't know what your second is.

[B]

I, I'm not telling you either. Okay. But I have two. Well at one where I can get corn free premium.

[E]

Yeah, that's good stuff.

[B]

The pumps don't work all winter. They go so slowly. It would take you about a half hour to fill the car.

[E]

Oh, I don't trust that gas.

[B]

And they had, they've had people, they've had the people crawling around there trying to fix it and they just, they can't get her, they can't get her done.

[C]

I bet they love every time he comes in when he complains about.

[B]

No, first thing.

[C]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to.

[B]

No, the first thing I do now when I go to that station is I go in first and say is it working? Oh my God, no, no, we still gotta.

[A]

Do you offer up some maybe constructive advice?

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I don't know what you should do. See, they take great care of their stuff. I don't know why the pumps are slow and neither do they.

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Can I give you a knack tip?

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Yeah.

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The best place to buy gas is from the busiest gas station you can find. They always have fresh stuff in the underground.

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I'm not worried about the freshness. I'm worried about I'm missing my corn free. I'm missing my corn free.

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You are the guy in the progressive ads.

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Absolutely.

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You're the guy that don't turn into your dad.

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What's our problem here? Well, they have a problem.

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You don't.

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I just have one quick question about your gas station. While you're filling up with the slow pump, how many shoplifters are are shooting out of the Walgreens across the street during your. Your.

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Are you making conversation with other conversations with other people pumping their gas?

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Hey Jim, what's going on?

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The weather.

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Well, it would be a lot better

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for one for the wind, let me tell you.

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Sure glad you're.

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Are you doing that right now?

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Huh? Could you order this weather?

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Let's we there. Oh, the best conversation I had was with a gal probably my age who drove in in a 67 Corvette. Completely original. That was her. That was her late husband's. Oh. And she was gassing her up and we had a nice chat about it. Nice chat about the car.

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Did you ask her what she's planning on doing with it?

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Unfortunately, she knows exactly what it's worth. Oh. So yeah.

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Did you see a sucker? Is that what you.

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No, no, no. I would just hope to catch her at an odd moment.

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Yeah.

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So sorry for your loss.

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You mean a low moment. I think is what you mean.

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Jim would have wanted it this way.

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I knew him by the way. Yeah, right.

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Just like the diamond ring.

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I didn't know.

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Just like the diamond ring.

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That happened once. It hasn't happened since. Say only because they come to us. Yes sir. All the way from Penguin, Tasmania. From the Traveling [e-mail] I would imagine our time in Penguin is drawing to a close here. One of these days they're on the move. Well, we'll find out. On this day, March 3rd in 1849, Minnesota Territory was signed into existence by President who 1849. James K. Polk.

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Dammit.

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The territory had a population of about 10,000 native people and 5,000 settler colonists and included present day north and South Dakota, east of the Missouri. The U.S. postal Service released a commemorative three centennial stamp on this date in 1949.

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March 3rd.

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That was part of the same nothing in 1904.

[A]

Right. Threw me off because you said, on

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this day, March 3, in 1853, Fillmore county honoring President Millard Fillmore, who haunts.

[E]

Yep.

[B]

On this day, March 3. In 1855, St. Louis county, which is the state's largest at 6,611 square miles, was established, named for the St. Louis River. On this day, March 3, also in 1855, the legislature of the Minnesota territory decided to send an immigration commissioner to New York beginning in June. Eugene Bernand of St. Paul represented the territory in Manhattan, where he encouraged immigrants. You suckers. To make Minnesota their new home. That's why we're here, because people bought that BS and they came out here and here we are, we get a month of bad skating in July. Other than that, the weather's horrible.

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All of a sudden he kind of oversold it, didn't he?

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On this day, March 3rd in 1990, a team led by Will Steger of ely completed a 3,800 mile international trans Antarctica expedition. The first dog sled traverse of the continent by its widest distance. And then Steger went nuts and appeared with us at the state fair. And to demonstrate global warming in the dead of August, threw a block of ice onto the lawn in front of our stage. He said, watch this, it'll melt. I said, yes, you're right.

[D]

Will it, Will you see that ice there, Joe?

[B]

See that ice there? That ice is gonna melt.

[C]

Are you aware of the, the building that he has built up north?

[E]

Oh, it's amazing.

[B]

I'm sure it's beautiful.

[C]

Yeah, it is really cool. That being said, but he made a

[B]

lot of money bitching about the climate.

[E]

I don't know if he still does it, but he used to every spring go into the boundary waters during breakup and traverse the different lakes when they were very, very sketchy. That's a mountain man s for you. That's, that's pretty bold.

[B]

On this day in Minnesota, Disney still make moccasins.

[E]

In 1990, that was when Yatesy would have a daily call to Will Steger and it would be me on the phone and love that. And his mom called one day and said, I don't think he has a phone up there.

[C]

That would be my mom. My mom would do something like that. Judith would call.

[B]

On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history.

[A]

Who'd we lose to on March 3rd?

[B]

Well, on this day in 2002, the Gophers blew a nine point lead with three minutes left to number 15, Illinois. That's not, you know, that's is it really? Nine points in three minutes is very doable. That's. I don't remember that. On this day, March 3rd in 2017. ManUFC. What's that? A Soccer United Football Club. Yeah. Played his first game ever and lost to Portland 5 to 1.

[A]

Wasn't that the game where one of the guys got hypothermia?

[B]

Well, they just played here the other night. It was 20 freezing out. What the hell? When does this season start? March, I guess.

[A]

February.

[B]

Feb. Yeah, it was cold. But they know who is the con

[E]

artist that convinced them to build a stadium without a roof.

[C]

Billy McGuire wasn't.

[E]

Yeah, that guy's a genius.

[B]

Yeah. And boy, you know how you stay warm, though? You wear your scarves.

[C]

Scarves Up.

[B]

Minnesota scarves.

[E]

I get some of those Will Steger mucklops.

[B]

That's what he made. Muklu.

[C]

Yeah, and he had. I saw him on an interview and he had some really cool hand warmers on, some mittens that he had made by himself.

[B]

Will's all right.

[C]

Really cool.

[E]

He's like, will, he's all right.

[B]

He's an okay guy. He doesn't know what he's talking about, but.

[E]

Oh, he's all right.

[C]

You've had him on the air to tell him while he's wrong.

[E]

You know what, Joe? He's found his lane and he stays in his lane.

[B]

Yeah, and all his siblings and relatives, they think he's goofy.

[E]

Have you talked to your siblings and relatives,

[F]

Will?

[B]

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, but I think his sister called me once and said, are you buying that? I said, no, not really. Anyway, thanks, Gillers.

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Yeah, he's back tomorrow.

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It is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in Garage Logic. And now is the time for you to do this same. So do not delay. Do exactly what I didn't pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice and he is on the line with us once again right here in Garage. And boy Josh, there's a lot of red out there right now, but is green coming in our future?

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There will be plenty of green. Bear in mind we're only a few weeks away from the official start of spring. My start of spring happened several weeks ago when pictures and catchers reported, but I still haven't seen my Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. We'll see what happens there. Plus this weekend we spring ahead for daylight savings time. So spring is definitely in the air and green shoot will be coming up on Wall Street. I'll say in the not too distant future. Market of course is concerned with several, several things not just about the I'll say conflict in the in the Mid east which has been going on for decades and I'll say but might end or might be reduced so soon. But the market is concerned with the price of oil going up that inflation is going to come roaring back. And yes, oil is up in the last week from $65 a barrel, $75 a barrel, oil stock tracked up as well. I'll say the Saudis are still and OPEC is planning on increasing production and should say the conflict resolve or should the Straits of Hormuz open? I believe the price of oil will slowly start coming down and then some of those inflation fears could go away. But with oil moving up, treasury prices move down and yields move up, making it again pretty difficult to make money other than the yield perfect produced from the treasury to make money in in treasury bonds. So I've been for a very, very long time, decades in fact, not a proponent of investing in bonds. If I want income, plenty of places to get income and yield. But it is true without the guarantee that at the end of a period of time, as in this case of Trisman Treasuries, I'm going to get my principal back. I am of the belief that owning assets, even with all the volatility around owning those assets. And we've got a lot of volatility now and an increase in the volatility index quite substantially. With an increase in volatility around stocks that does produce a lot of fear individual investors and some fear among institutional investors. And they sell self first asked questions later me keeping the asset allocation keeping up to 30% in cash that can be used during times like this and the balance invested in growth growth oriented names that in my case in my client's case we focus on companies around the Internet which right now definitely includes not only companies and while in the cloud or data centers or artificial intelligence companies around leisure. And I it's one thing that and I keep repeating this I have found since I've been in graduate school that no matter what's going on in the world, people are still spending money on leisure including experiences such as concerts or cruises and the like or going to Disney World. And those two areas primarily have done pretty well again over longer periods of time. Also told clients and I've shared this with you in any given period of any year they're typically going to be 3 to 4, 5 to 10% pullbacks overall in the market. And right now there are certain sectors of the market namely software that are in a bear market because of fears of artificial intelligence programs replacement replacing some of these companies. And I'll say this fear kind of was confirmed last week Block, you might know them as Square or Cash App. Their founder and CEO Jack Dorsey announced that he would cut about 40% of the workforce because of AI. There's probably some other reasons as well. And Block stock jumped up but it's still true trading significantly below its last top. Yet artificial intelligence is going to have an impact. I look at it more as a tool than something dystopian. But right now with we'll say the conflict in the Middle east ongoing and still hot, volatility in the market could increase. That said, two local names were in the in the news. Target beat on the their bottom line. They missed a little bit on their top line and they said that things are really starting to rebound and you can see that in the stock being up in a in a downtake today. And you can see that even over the past month as Target has moved up and under new management see what developed local Best Buy had a nice bounce off its buy bottom. They too beat on the bottom line significantly missed somewhat on the the top line as they focus or they say progress on crop. We'll see how that that works out. But these two companies do offer. I'll say some green shoots in a sea of red, as does a nice little bounce up even in Microsoft.

[A]

Excellent advice as always. Always, Mr. Money Talk. You heard him. G Y Ellers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608, where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

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Thank you very much.

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