3/4 Tim Walz and Keith Ellison delightfully grilled about fraud in the Nation's Capitol

Summary

Garage Logic – March 4, 2026

Episode Theme & Purpose

This episode of Garage Logic, hosted by Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor") and the regular GL crew, is centered around two major discussions:

1. The accelerating takeover of journalism by artificial intelligence, with musings and laments about the decline of legacy news and authentic reporting.
2. The grilling of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General Keith Ellison before Congress over large-scale welfare and autism care fraud in Minnesota—a scandal that has drawn national attention and resulted in intense Congressional testimony.

Throughout, the trademark Garage Logic tone prevails: skeptical, folksy, cantankerous, and laced with dark humor and sharp jabs at political leaders. It’s both a commentary on regional news and a reflection on societal shifts, with the signature banter and digressions the GL audience expects.

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1. The Death of Human Journalism, Rise of AI Content

Timestamps: 02:28–22:13

Key Discussion Points

• Cleveland Plain Dealer goes AI:
  Joe and the crew discuss the shock of seeing the longtime Cleveland Plain Dealer resorting to AI-written articles—flagged as “drafted by artificial intelligence” (03:44), with editors defending the move as freeing up staff for “more work.”
• Industry backlash:
  Journalists, editors, and even applicants recoil at being turned into “AI content farmers.”
  • Notable quote (04:47):
    Chris Reivers (paraphrasing critics): “By removing writing from reporters’ workloads, we’ve effectively freed up an extra workday for them each week to do… what?”
• Abandoning paper tradition:
  Joe, long resistant to digital-only news, confesses he finally gave up on print:
  • Quote (09:18):
    “I’m throwing in the towel. I’m going online. Newspapers.”
• The nostalgia and demise:
  The crew mourns the lost status, excitement, and “seriousness” of newspaper journalism, recalling a time when “the closer you get to the country’s tallest buildings... we were all once terribly crucial to the ebb and flow of this country” (05:14).
• AI-generated podcasts and radio:
  Kenny demonstrates how AI can now synthesize entire, bland podcasts in seconds—with a sampling of a generic AI episode.
  • Quote (19:00):
    Matthew: “Who’s going to listen to that?”
    Kenny: “Unfortunately, Ken, that’s where it’s going.”
    Chris: “But it’s zero quality.”
  • “What we do is based on personality… you couldn’t sell advertising for that.” (19:24, Chris)
• The soulless future:
  The group lampoons how AI, chatbots, and hedge funds are stripping news of its texture and humanity.
  • Joe, 08:27: “If your daily newspaper is put together by a computer, it’s over.”

Memorable Moments

• Joe’s fantasy of confronting media hedge fund kingpins in a Palm Beach bar (13:35–15:23).
• Kenny’s AI podcast demo, which the crews cut off in horror and laughter, “I can’t take that.” (18:59).
• Banter about “thick” Forest Lake girls—AI unable to understand regional humor or quirks (42:30–43:08).

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2. Congressional Grilling: Tim Walz & Keith Ellison on Welfare Fraud

Timestamps: 26:28–46:26

Issue Background (setup at 26:51)

• Minnesota’s leadership is called before a Congressional Oversight Committee (chaired by James Comer, R-Kentucky) about explosive fraud in state welfare programs (notably “Feeding Our Future” and autism care).
• Walz and Ellison are accused of knowing about the scale of the fraud much earlier than previously acknowledged.

Key Testimony & Exchanges

2.1. Jim Jordan Grills Walz (28:36–33:06)

• Jordan presses Walz about why state payments to fraudulent organizations were restarted after a pause, forcing him to confront court records proving Walz made misleading public statements.

  • Notable exchange (29:23): James Comer: “Why didn’t you tell the truth about why you restarted the payments?” Chris Reivers (reacting to testimony): “He’s been living on this lie for four years.” James Comer (31:09): “So either you’re lying or the court’s lying. And I’m just asking you—which one is it?”

• Walz defends himself with bureaucratic ambiguity:
  Walz: “That was not the interpretation of the attorneys… it was a misinterpretation.”
  Comer: “You were trying to hide behind the court, Governor?”

2.2. Nancy Mace Hammers Walz on Autism Funds (35:10–37:24)

• Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) exposes a “34,200%” explosion in autism spending in Minnesota—$1 million (2017) to $343 million (2024)—and Walz’s inability to cite even basic demographic numbers.

  • Notable exchange (35:26):
    Mace: “Did you not just say you prepared for this hearing today?”
    Mace: “So your excuse before that you didn’t know what 2017 numbers were because you were not governor, and today you can’t answer the numbers about 2024 as governor…”
    Mace: “Are you governor of Minnesota or not?” (36:27)

• Walz flounders: “I don’t have the number in front of me.” Crew mocks his “I’m a knucklehead” defense.

2.3. Tom Emmer Confronts Keith Ellison (39:46–40:56)

• Accuses Ellison of actively obstructing fraud investigations for campaign donations—a quid pro quo.
  • Emmer: “If these concerns are proven to be true, you should be disbarred and you should go to jail.” (40:09)
  • Matthew: “I didn’t like his tone, but boy, he hit it out of the park there.” (40:15)

Hosts’ Reactions and Commentary

• Is this all just political theater?

  • Matthew: “What’s the point… unless there’s a goal in mind? Are we going to name names? Are we going to prosecute somebody? Is Walz going to end up in jail? Let’s go here.” (33:23)
  • Chris: “This is part of third rail theater that we’re subjected to as citizens… I personally enjoy it just to see Walz squirm.” (33:41)

• Frustration with local accountability:
  Chris: “This kind of grilling has not happened here locally… The grip and power of the Walz gang is so powerful here that newspapers aren’t going to do this. He hasn’t been dragged into court. He has yet to face any consequences... So here is Congress [doing it].” (37:25)

• Calls for naming more names and holding actual perpetrators to account—rising anger about the lack of serious local investigation and prosecution.

Memorable, Blunt Commentary

• “We’re being governed by crooks.” (41:19, Chris)
• “If this opens one or two eyes in Minnesota, that’s more than currently.” (41:22)
• “It’s time to start naming names.” (42:06, Matthew)
• Speculation about U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar’s possible (alleged) background role (44:37–44:41).

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3. AI and the End of Common Sense

Throughout entire episode, peaking at 42:46–43:08 and in running jokes.

• The podcast crew repeatedly mocks AI’s inability to replicate their regionally specific, rowdy, and sometimes off-color humor:
  • “AI isn’t going to say ‘ain’t.’ AI ain’t saying ‘ain’t.’ AI is saying ‘isn’t.’ … we want our hosts to be highly flawed individuals.” (25:07–25:31)
  • Bit about “thick” Forest Lake girls—something only GL listeners would get, totally lost on AI (43:01).

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4. Side-Bar: Local News, Sports, and Minnesota Life

Timestamps: 46:26–end

• Hockey tournament updates: Hibbing/Chisholm routing Dodge County; banter about team rosters and local youth sports.
• Nostalgia: More reminiscing about Twin Cities landmarks, downtown businesses, the changing face of Minneapolis real estate (selling the Lumber Exchange building for $1; 77:25–79:34).
• Humor & “palette cleansers”: Recurring jokes about retirement, hardware stores, and the regional tendency to digress into sports or local color after weighty topics.

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5. Notable Quotes & Moments

AI and Media

• Chris (04:47): “This is the beginning of the end of the news.”
• Kenny (19:09): “That’s where it’s going: milquetoast, generic.”
• Joe (08:27): “If your daily newspaper is put together by a computer, it’s over.”
• Chris (19:24): “What we do is based on personality… you couldn’t sell advertising for that.”

On the Congressional Hearing

• James Comer (31:09): “So either you’re lying or the court’s lying… which one is it?”
• Chris (33:41): “This is part of third rail theater… just to see Walz squirm.”
• Matthew (41:22): “We’re being governed by crooks.”
• Matthew (42:06): “It’s time to start naming names.”

On Minnesota News

• Joe (13:35): Fantasizing about confronting the hedge fund “baron” who stripped newspapers of resources, in a fancy Palm Beach bar. “I always had this fantasy of… just beating the [crap] out of him.”

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6. Timestamps for Core Segments

• AI and Journalism: 02:28–22:13
• Walz & Ellison Congressional Grilling: 26:28–46:26
  • Jordan v. Walz – 28:36–33:06
  • Mace on Autism Funds – 35:10–37:24
  • Emmer v. Ellison – 39:46–40:56
• GL Reaction/Accountability Rant: 37:11–42:26
• AI & Local Humor: 42:30–43:08
• Hockey & Local News: 46:26–end

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Summary

Garage Logic’s March 4, 2026 episode is a lively lament for the loss of authentic news—blaming AI and corporate takeovers—and a furious examination of Minnesota’s leadership over a historic welfare fraud scandal. The Congressional grilling of Walz and Ellison is met with both amusement and exasperation as the hosts demand more than “theater” and call for real consequences, more accountability, and, above all, for someone—anyone—to name names and pursue justice in Minnesota. The episode is rife with memorable quotes, rants, GL’s signature humorous detours, and a steadfast belief in common sense and human personality—elements they see as under threat both in news and governance.

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(This summary skips ads and non-content segments, and is faithful to the irreverent, skeptical, sharp-edged tone of the Garage Logic crew.)

Transcript

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Rookie]

What

[Matthew]

are we doing this? Oh, what's the rush?

[Chris Reivers]

The rush is you, by the way.

[Kenny Olson]

Right? You're the rush.

[Matthew]

We got to get out of here.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Chris Reivers]

And now, from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic, with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course, the rookie here is your Flashlight King firework and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susherer. The Cleveland Plain Dealer is a venerable old newspaper, and she's got a New byline on recent articles about an ice carving festival, a medical research discovery and a roaming pack of chicken. Slaving chaos. No, chicken. Oh, Chicken slaying dogs. Where did I come up with what I thought that said Chicken Lane. Chicken slaying dogs. A reporter's name is paired with the words advanced local express desk. You know what that means?

[Patrick]

What does that mean?

[Matthew]

Uh oh.

[Chris Reivers]

This article was drafted by artificial intelligence. This article was produced with assistance from AI Tools and reviewed by cleveland.com staff, reads a note on the bottom of each robot penned piece differentiating it from those still written primarily by humans. The disclosure has done little to stem the backlash that caromed across the news industry after the paper's editor, Chris quinn published a Feb. 14 column lamenting that a fresh out of college job applicant withdrew from reporting fellowship. From a reporting fellowship when they found out the position included no writing, just filing notes to an AI writing tool.

[Rookie]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

I got you

[Chris Reivers]

say over.

[Kenny Olson]

And that's all I can play. No, seriously, I'm not joking.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm with officially over.

[Kenny Olson]

It's over.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Because this is the beginning of the end of the news. Oh my God.

[Chris Reivers]

I can't believe that this Quinn editor Chris Quinn, about whom I know nothing, said artificial intelligence is not bad for news rules. It's the future of them. Adding that by removing writing from reporters workloads, we've effectively freed up an extra workday for them each week to do

[Patrick]

what

[Kenny Olson]

they have to do.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

To look for a gig on social media. Industry veterans recoiled at the sentiment. Former Financial Times editor Lionel Barber called it beyond dumb. Axios reporter Sam Allard defended the applicant for wanting to be a journalist instead of an AI content farmer. Huff Post editor Philip Lewis wrote as editor for a newspaper encouraging removing writing from reporters workloads should just resign. Here's the deal. Reporters, newspapers, the closer you get to the country's tallest buildings were all once terribly crucial to the ebb and flow of this country.

[Patrick]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

You didn't have your Internets, you didn't have your Googles, you didn't have your little phone.

[Patrick]

You had on time delivery of the daily newspaper.

[Kenny Olson]

But this is. This stems from something. Joe, I talked to you.

[Chris Reivers]

I was going to finish this. Excuse me. I'm sorry. The plain dealer is 184 years old. I mean it was there at the beginning and now it's at the forefront of an industry wide push to reimagine. Would you foghorn that, please? Reimagine. Go bleep yourself with your reimagine. Outlets such as the New York Times, the Financial Times, and the Washington Post have begun to incorporate the technology into parts of their journalism and experiment with interactive chatbots. I don't even know what a chatbot is. What is a chatbot?

[Kenny Olson]

It's usually something that can assist you. For instance, let's say you're looking to buy a car. You might meet Kaya, who's on the chatbot, and she is not a human being. She's here to assist. Are you looking for a brand new vehicle? Are you looking for a used vehicle?

[Chris Reivers]

This thing called a chatbot would tell me.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes. What did you say?

[Joe Soucheray]

Imagine a future.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

It's across the board, though.

[Chris Reivers]

Why am I. You know what I gave up yesterday on funding the new arena?

[Rookie]

I'm.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm giving up on this, too.

[Kenny Olson]

But I guess what I told you,

[Matthew]

that's what they want.

[Chris Reivers]

I told you people 10 years ago, I'm going out the day that there's no more mail, no more AM radio, no more writing by sending bills in for with checks, no more newspapers. What else did I have? It's all coming true. Yes. You in the back.

[Kenny Olson]

So now you're a podcast host, you pay your bills online, and you got to get your Sunday call him in by Thursday.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't pay any bills online.

[Kenny Olson]

You don't?

[Rookie]

Right.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm saying in your home. Well, that's done all the time, right? Yeah, but I don't. I think that's voodoo. I don't do that. I'm going to the post office. It's over. It's over. If your daily newspaper is put together by a computer, it's over.

[Kenny Olson]

I got news for you.

[Matthew]

It's been over for a while.

[Kenny Olson]

This is the beginning of a new trend. Well, you and Patrick talked about this on Monday night Sports Talk or a couple days ago.

[Chris Reivers]

What do we say?

[Kenny Olson]

Exactly?

[Chris Reivers]

What did.

[Matthew]

We should ask AI what you said.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, well, chatbot, what did we say?

[Kenny Olson]

Remember Royce's tirade about how the Sunday paper had no live or not live?

[Chris Reivers]

But no, no, he wasn't talking about AI. He was talking about these impossible deadlines that newspapers have created.

[Kenny Olson]

That's my point. That's what's going to come.

[Chris Reivers]

Why don't the papers just say, we're done printing. If you want our paper, it's online only, and then you'll get up to date stuff.

[Patrick]

Too many of the old timers saying, nope, I need that. I need that feel.

[James Comer]

I'm.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm about to make a confession. Oh, I'm. I'm Throwing in the towel.

[Kenny Olson]

You're making the switch.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm going. I'm going online. Newspapers.

[Matthew]

I stopped going down for newspapers, what, two months ago now, beginning of the year.

[Chris Reivers]

That way I get a score. I don't care what the weather is. It'll be on my computer. I'm done. I gave up. I gave up yesterday.

[Kenny Olson]

How many people?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know what's happening to me.

[Kenny Olson]

How many people were at the Wild game last night? That's what you want to know.

[Patrick]

I want to follow a bowl.

[Chris Reivers]

I watched two periods. The boys look good. And they beat the Tampas 5 to 1. How about very serious?

[Kenny Olson]

850 puck drop.

[Matthew]

By the way, the Tampas looked bad.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't care w. They're. They're ready to go to the lake.

[Kenny Olson]

How about Kirill passing Marianne?

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. What, 200 gold or something like that? A lot of them. Anyway, I'm going online. It's probably cheaper.

[Kenny Olson]

And the whole deal just put John Bansley up.

[Chris Reivers]

That's what I'm like. John Bansley. All I got is that newspaper. That's all I got. And now they're telling me they're using chatbots. That's exactly what that fellow who turned down the fellowship at the Cleveland Plain Dealer was absolutely correct. You mean you want to hire me to feed information to a computer? That's farming. He was recruited to be an AI farmer.

[Matthew]

I think it's really cute that you finally caught up with the rest of us because this is so prevalent everywhere, Joe. There's so many documentary channels now on YouTube and they're all 100% AI driven. The voiceover, the imaging, everything is AI. Well, history books are being replaced. True documentaries are being replaced. Research is being replaced. Reporting.

[Chris Reivers]

Jesus wept.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

As the Brits say, Jesus wept.

[Matthew]

He sobbed his eyes out.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, here's how fast life is. I was lucky enough to experience newspapers at the very peak of their power. Mm, very. We had a jet.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, you need to cover a game here. The plane leaves at 8:00'. Clock.

[Patrick]

And probably not send one person.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, two people. Two Nate. Two photographers minimum.

[Matthew]

Three reporters said, wow, Bargets. He has a great line. He goes, I was born in the 1900s.

[Chris Reivers]

So was I.

[Matthew]

We experience life as it should. Should be.

[Chris Reivers]

I saw newspapers at the very peak of their power and influence. They were taken seriously, was all we had.

[Matthew]

Everything about the 60s, 70s and 80s, reporting, music, culture was awesome. It was real.

[Patrick]

Sorry, Ken. When was the change at the Star Tribune where they become. They became a little more left leaning or euphorian? Minded. Was there, do you think there was a point in time or was it a gaslight when a reporter just gave you. Here's what it is. It's not spewing gasoline or energy or

[Chris Reivers]

whatever the hell are you talking.

[Rookie]

Talking about. When.

[Patrick]

When was the one where the reporters giving straight laced reporting versus when did it change? Where they gave it their little. Their little left twist. Was there a point in time that you can remember or was it just gradual?

[Chris Reivers]

Gradual. Okay, gradual. Well, what are you going to do?

[Kenny Olson]

How we do it?

[Chris Reivers]

I give up. I mean, it's done. If the. I'm sure that every paper in the country, in order to survive, is going to go down the road of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

[Kenny Olson]

There was a piece. Should have sent it to you.

[Chris Reivers]

Some guy that owns the St. Paul paper is a hedge fund baron. His name's escaping me. I've said this before and I. I always had this fantasy of finding him in a bar on what's the exclusive street in Palm Beach. Right down the. Right down the block from the breakers, there's this exclusive street with great saloons where the only people in there are billionaires. And I always had this fantasy of going in there and just beating the out of them.

[Matthew]

Alden Global Capital.

[Chris Reivers]

Alden, yeah.

[Patrick]

Greg Publishers. Greg Mazen, Manzanik, whatever.

[Chris Reivers]

No, he isn't. He doesn't know what the paper is.

[Kenny Olson]

There was a piece done over the weekend and I should have sent it to you guys, but you know, you guys don't read anything I send you anyway. However, that's true. It was basically how AI if you have kids in school these days, we're now educating kids to prepare them for the future of a world in which AI is going to take over all of these jobs anyway. Much like we've been talking about before, where the trade industry is where kids should really focus their energy on and other things that AI generated material cannot take over.

[Chris Reivers]

Rook, look up what's the toniest street in Palm Beach? Because this bar. I have a specific bar in mind where I bet this guy goes. I don't know if he drinks or not, but it's a restaurant too. It's the kind of place where JFK Jr would be trying to pick up some 40 year old.

[Patrick]

Worth Avenue.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, yeah. Now name me. You all know the name because it has a history. If you name me the.

[Patrick]

Let's see. Worth Avenue, a Palm beach island for luxury shopping and dining. Clematis Street, West Palm beach for nightlife. Other notable streets.

[Chris Reivers]

It's on Worth Avenue. Okay. It's a different world. It's just. I already. Didn't I tell you the story where a guy showed up on Worth Avenue in a Rolls Royce, and I stepped into the street. You live her out here? Well, it was kind of that I stepped into the street to take a picture of it on my phone just because it was a cool car.

[Patrick]

I remember you telling this.

[Chris Reivers]

The guy got out of it clearly mopped up. Clearly. He was. And he had the dame that looked like the mall. What do you call those gangster girlfriends? The mall.

[Matthew]

Gun mall.

[Chris Reivers]

Gun mall. And she had the silver hair and the tight dress and the whole thing. And the guy looked at me and I thought, it finally registered my head.

[Patrick]

Do Donna die.

[Chris Reivers]

This guy does not want me taking a picture of his car. And I just. Typical me, I just blurted out, I. I love your car, man. I love your car. And he looked at me, and he looked at me, and I just kind of slinked away. Thanks for hoping I wasn't going to get shot in the back.

[Patrick]

Thanks for liking my car. I'm going to let you live.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Huh?

[Rookie]

Taboo.

[Chris Reivers]

Taboo. That's it. Thank you, Gabe. The bar's Taboo.

[Matthew]

Alden Global Capital is run by president and Managing director Heath Freeman and co founder Randall D. Smith.

[Chris Reivers]

That's the guy. Randall D. Smith. Nobody's ever seen him. Very private guy. He. He owns Media News, I think, which is based in Denver, and Media News includes in its properties Pioneer Press and blah, blah, blah, blah. It's not, you know, it's no big deal. It's. It's going to be okay. It's all. Everything's okay. Everything's okay. But I've always, you know, wanted to walk in Taboo and have somebody point out Randall Smith.

[Patrick]

Well, you could probably kick his ass.

[Chris Reivers]

He's only 83. You want to grab a pen, you

[Matthew]

grab a server tray and you slap him upside the head.

[Patrick]

Wharton.

[Chris Reivers]

I mean, yeah, I'm sure he's a. Obviously, he's a tremendous success. You know, if he's living in Palm

[Matthew]

beach at the cost of many thousands of people in their career.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, can. What's he care.

[Kenny Olson]

Can I really blow your mind?

[Chris Reivers]

Sure.

[Kenny Olson]

And I don't like doing this to you, but I just want to show you an example, so bear with me.

[Chris Reivers]

Is this germane to what we're talking about?

[Kenny Olson]

100%.

[Chris Reivers]

All right.

[Kenny Olson]

I generated a short podcast where I opened up our mics, meaning us.

[Chris Reivers]

Here.

[Kenny Olson]

Put us. Put this into the content. And this is what was created in about. I think it took about 45 seconds.

[Chris Reivers]

You mean you did this just now?

[Kenny Olson]

Just now. You ready?

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Welcome back to the Next Frontier.

[Rookie]

Everyone.

[Chris Reivers]

So excited for today's episode. Eden, because we're diving into something that literally everyone is talking about. How we work. Remote hybrid. The future. My brain is buzzing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Indeed, Avery. It's a fascinating landscape to explore. Today we'll unravel the intricate tapestry of modern work, focusing initially on the trajectory of remote work, where it's truly taking hold and where we're observing a shift back to more traditional models.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay, seriously, a shift back. But everyone says remote is the future. Where is it becoming more prominent? Turn it off.

[Matthew]

I can't take that.

[Kenny Olson]

But I guess what I'm trying to

[Matthew]

insure is going to listen to that.

[Kenny Olson]

Unfortunately, Ken, that's. I think where it's going.

[Matthew]

That's milquetoast generic.

[Kenny Olson]

I couldn't agree more.

[Matthew]

Personality. Yep.

[Kenny Olson]

I couldn't agree more. But to a company. Thank God, we don't work for that kind of a company. But to a company that cost them

[Chris Reivers]

$0 and they got. But it's zero quality.

[Matthew]

What we do is based on personality.

[Chris Reivers]

That wouldn't. You couldn't sell advertising for that.

[Josh Arnold]

It wouldn't work.

[Matthew]

I challenge that statement.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, there's nothing to listen to. Why would you buy time on that?

[Kenny Olson]

Eco Fun Motorsports.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, Eco.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I'm kidding.

[Chris Reivers]

Tim Bloom ain't buying time on that.

[Kenny Olson]

Again, I agree with all of you, because that's what we do here.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, let's return to the real world.

[Patrick]

In 07, Smith founded Alden Global Capital and was its chief of investments. It has a reputation for sharply cutting costs by reducing the number of journalists working on its newspapers. In The Atlantic, Mary McKay Coppins criticized Smith and co founder Heath Freeman, saying no one has been more mercenary or less interested in pretending to care about their publications long term health.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, they come in and they do what's called harvesting. They just. They leave you with bare bones.

[Patrick]

You don't even have a tape dispenser.

[Chris Reivers]

I mean, it's.

[Kenny Olson]

You don't even have a building.

[Chris Reivers]

We don't have a building.

[Matthew]

Right.

[Chris Reivers]

That's tough.

[Matthew]

I. Joe, I want my hosts to be highly flawed individuals.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Matthew]

Skeletons in their closets.

[Chris Reivers]

Welcome to Garage Logic.

[Matthew]

Lustful thoughts about Forest Lake girls and Forest Lake things to hide.

[Chris Reivers]

See what AI would feed AI.

[Matthew]

You don't.

[Chris Reivers]

No. Right now.

[Matthew]

Don't feed AI anything. F a I Forest Lake girl.

[Chris Reivers]

See what they come up with.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

[Matthew]

It's going to give you something boring and generic. That's what?

[Chris Reivers]

That's why I want to find out.

[Matthew]

It doesn't know what a forest lake girl he likes.

[Rookie]

Boring.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, do you know what a forest lake girl is? In the meantime, can I tell you that we used to have affordable energy around here? That was before Wallacey signed his 100% renewable mandate forcing all of our electricity to come from wind and solar by 2040. That's. That. That. That's not that far away. And now the electric bills are going through the roof. But here's the deal. Minnesota power companies cannot plan for new nuclear energy. That's the cleanest, safest and most reliable carbon free energy on earth. But a state law puts a gag order on nukes. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is sprinting towards advanced nuclear energy. Let's not repeat their failure. Go to americanexperiment.org we're lucky to have this think tank around us. Go to americanexperiment.org and hit take action. Tell your representative it's time to free the nukes and restore reliable, affordable energy in Minnesota. It's theamericanexperiment.org While you're there, see what else they have. It's all interesting, wonderful stuff. Americanexperiment.org.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

All investments involve risk. All comments and opinions are Josh Arnold's

[Chris Reivers]

and do not constitute investment advice. Chris Reivers is a paid endorser. I don't have the deal here because nobody did it.

[Matthew]

Okay, thanks, Bob.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, he's got one job. Hang on. I got you. I got gotcha.

[Chris Reivers]

Reality With a Bite. The Joe Shoe Shire Show. Easy for me to say.

[Matthew]

See, AI wouldn't do that for you.

[Kenny Olson]

That's right.

[Matthew]

That was a real person. Deep Creep is always the answer. Even when it ain't. See, now, AI isn't going to say ain't. AI ain't saying ain't ain't. AI is saying isn't. Let me explain what I mean by that. We all know Deep Creep is great as a regular maintenance item. It keeps things moving freely. But if you're using it to break a rusty bond and it doesn't immediately work, don't flip out and send me an email. Don't stop by my place either. I don't want to talk to you. Don't give up is what I'm saying. Give it some heat. Give it some propane heat, not the acetylene. Leave that tank alone. The propane torch is enough. Just get it good and warm. Then soak it in deep Creep, enjoy the sun steam it produces and then heat it again and give it another dowsing and then take a big old wrench to it. If it's still not working, do it again and again. Eventually that deep creep is going to creep deep enough and get into those threads and eventually you're going to be a happy camper with a freshly freed up nut and bolt or whatever. It creeps deeper than any other product you'll find on the shelf. By the way, that shelf is the fine automotive chemical aisle of any store. It's available everywhere and it's just another fantastic product from our friends at CFO Joe.

[Kenny Olson]

I know.

[Rookie]

Whoops.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm sorry I had to shut your mics off because you and rookie both

[Chris Reivers]

like to talk while you're. No, we had a problem.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, gotcha. I will have that generated thing in a moment. But I know that you wanted to get to certain sections of Governor Walls and Keith Ellison's testimony today. So I wasn't quite sure which one you wanted first. You want to start with Walls?

[Matthew]

Let's background everybody.

[Chris Reivers]

Let me background. Let me set that up.

[Patrick]

Set the background.

[Chris Reivers]

I got it right here. I got it right here. Haven't, has it. Haven't Keith Ellison and Walls been testifying before Congress there before? Yeah, prior to this day.

[Kenny Olson]

This is their second visit, not their first rodeo.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, the oversight committee is. They're confronting Walls and Attorney General Keith Ellison. It's called a high stakes hearing on welfare fraud. It was this morning in Washington. So we paid for Tim and it

[Kenny Olson]

might still be going.

[Chris Reivers]

Keith, to fly out there. While Governor Walz hesitated. Taxpayers lost billions. Attorney General Ellison has likewise claimed his office was aggressively holding fraudsters accountable. That's not true. But when his statements were tested against the record, they fell apart. The chairman of the committee is James Comer. He's a Republican from Kentucky and they were on the. They were here just a minute. We have spoken with over 30 whistleblowers, Comer said, many of them current employees and Democrats who say they were ignored. We know that from our own local news gathering they were ignored, retaliated against and even surveilled for raising concerns. Instead of protecting the whistleblowers, the Walz administration protected the system that enabled the fraud. Hours before the hearing kicked off this morning, the committee released a 53 page report that accused both Walz and Ellison of knowing about the fraud earlier than previously ever thought. And here's some of their testimony from this morning.

[Kenny Olson]

So the first one is the longest clip and I think it's probably one of the ones that has been echoing a lot of the things said on gl. It's from Representative Jim Jordan. I know you can draw your.

[Chris Reivers]

Maybe he listens to the show.

[Kenny Olson]

Maybe he's a representative or excuse me, a Republican from Ohio. And he asked Governor Wall they had a little back and forth forth here.

[James Comer]

The payments are restarted. Why didn't you tell the truth about why you restarted the payments?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, Chairman, we did tell you and Feeding our future grew because of the pandemic and asked that question.

[James Comer]

I said why didn't you tell the truth about why you restarted the payments? The payments stopped because there were concerns obviously wouldn't stop the payments. Then they're restarted a month later. What was the reason for restarting the payments?

[Chris Reivers]

My understanding was the agency believed that the court had required them to make those payments and that was false step. I know this case very well. I know the judge involved in this case. He never ordered the Department of Education to start the payments up again. He never did. He pointed out to the Department of Education what the rules suggest they have to do. He never said you must start the repayment. Walls have been living on this lie for four years.

[James Comer]

I think that is said that, didn't you? You said the reason you restart is because the court ordered you to do so. Is that right?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't believe that is settled yet. It's settled, the best of my knowledge.

[James Comer]

Well, I think it is because the court did something that I just don't. I don't know if I've ever seen it. They issued a statement saying you were wrong in what you were saying. This is from the court. It says feeding our future versus Minnesota Department of Education. Correcting reports and statements by Governor Tim Walz concerning orders issued by the court. Here's what the judge says. Governor Tim Walz told the media that the Minnesota Department of Education attempted in payments to FOF because of possible fraud but that Judge Guthman ordered payments to continue in April 2021. Next sentence. That is false. So you said something wasn't true. He further states this Judge Guthman. The court says this Judge Guthman never ordered the Department of Education to resume payments defeating our future in April 2021 or at any other time. So I want to know why didn't you tell the truth, Congressman.

[Chris Reivers]

The attorneys at the Department of Education interpreted that differently. Both of those judges are no longer on the bench and I think that they Stop. Guthman retired. He insists that he never ordered the. I mean it's clear in his language he never ordered the department to start repayments.

[James Comer]

The first seven words. This is not some unnamed source talking to the New York Times. It's not some anonymous source talking to whatever your Minnesota Star Tribune or whatever your paper is. This is the court speaking. First sentence. First seven words. Due to inaccurate statements by the governor, Ramsey County District Court judge has issued and authorized that this following news released. That's pretty straightforward. So the court's lying.

[Chris Reivers]

I can't tell you, Congressman, but the interpretation.

[James Comer]

Somebody's lying because you can't say the court ordered you to restart the payment. And then the court says, we didn't order you to restart the payments. So either you're lying or the court's lying. And I'm just asking you which one is it?

[Chris Reivers]

I just simply know what the attorneys at the agency believed that it was a misinterpretation. And I would note that those payments couldn't be.

[James Comer]

You were trying to hide behind the court, Governor?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[James Comer]

Could that maybe be the reason why you issued the statements you did and why the court had to do something you never see done before? They issue a press statement saying, you're wrong, the governor is wrong. His statement is their words, not mine.

[Chris Reivers]

Stop. Stop. Before he issued that statement, Gutherman went to the highest legal authorities in Minnesota to say, I need to release this. The highest legal authorities in Minnesota reviewed that and said, yes, you can and you must.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

[James Comer]

Could that be the reason?

[Chris Reivers]

That was not the interpretation of the attorneys and, you know, court work. You can appeal those congressmen, as you well know, I'm sure.

[James Comer]

Is it all about politics, Governor?

[Chris Reivers]

No, it's certain. It's about taking care of our people, which take care of better than anyone else.

[James Comer]

The behavioral intervention program went from 3 million to 400 million in five years. The housing stabilization went from 2.6 million to 104 million. The integrated community supports went from 4.6 million.

[Matthew]

I have a question for you. Yeah. Because I am so discouraged by all of this. What's the point? What is that? Is he a senator or a representative?

[Chris Reivers]

Chris? A representative.

[Kenny Olson]

Representative.

[Matthew]

What. What is his goal here?

[Chris Reivers]

That's a great question. This is part of the third. Third rail theater that we're subjected to as citizens of the country.

[Kenny Olson]

Would the word be exposure?

[Chris Reivers]

I personally enjoy it. Just to see Wal squirm because he's being trapped by his lion.

[Matthew]

That's all this is. Unless there's a goal in mind.

[Chris Reivers]

Who knows what the goal in mind is?

[Matthew]

The reason I'm so disgusted, Joe, is because this. I saw this play out again. And again this morning during this hearing with the Republican side. And then it was just as equally off putting, if not worse, on the Democrat side where they didn't talk about fraud at all. They talked about ICE and the investigations

[Chris Reivers]

of ice, which had nothing to do with fraud.

[Matthew]

I know, I know. It's just such awful theater. It's just disgusting. And it doesn't seem like there's a goal in mind. Are we going to name names? Are we going to prosecute somebody? Is Walls gonna end up in jail? Let's go here.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Would you like another clip?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Speaking of theater, in 2017, $1 million was spent on autism in the state of Minnesota.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

And that grew to 343 million in 2024.

[Chris Reivers]

We've covered all this on this show.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, there were some questions being asked.

[Rookie]

All right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Much money was spent on autism in

[Kenny Olson]

Minnesota, by the way. Representative Nancy Mace, South Carolina in 2017.

[Chris Reivers]

Governor, I don't have those numbers in front of me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Congressman, did you prepare for this hearing today?

[Chris Reivers]

Did you do anything? I take Congress seriously.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you've seen the numbers about autism fraud in Minnesota. So we're going to do some Minnesota math with you today. Okay, Are you ready? How much money was spent on 2017 for autism in Minnesota? How much?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

I wasn't the governor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, did you not just say that you prepared for this hearing today? $1 million.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

A quick Google search or using your AI could tell you $1 million was spent. How much money was spent on autism in Minnesota in 2024?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't have the number in front

[Kenny Olson]

of me as governor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Was governor in 2024.

[Chris Reivers]

I was, but I'm not the head of.

[Joe Soucheray]

So your excuse before that you didn't know what 2017 autism numbers were because you were not governor. And today you can't answer the numbers about 2024 as governor and you still said you prepared for this hearing today. It's unbelievable. $343 million was spent in 2024. What percent increases that from 1 million to 343 million. What percentage increase is that?

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not here to be your prop. Go ahead and tell me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you governor of Minnesota or not?

[Chris Reivers]

Yes, I am.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not governor of South Carolina. You can sure as hell bet that I'm going to know the math. The math is 34,200% increase. An increase of 343 times what it was in this time period. Do you know the number of children in Minnesota?

[Chris Reivers]

I know that Minnesota ranked as the Top three state for children in the last year.

[Joe Soucheray]

What is total population in Minnesota?

[Chris Reivers]

5.7 million.

[Rookie]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

What is the total population of children in Minnesota?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't have the number in front of me right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you governor of Minnesota?

[Chris Reivers]

I know 400,000 were cut out of health care last week by the decisions you made because of fraud.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you governor of Minnesota?

[Chris Reivers]

I am.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you don't know the number of children residing in Minnesota?

[Chris Reivers]

Specific numbers. Let me tell you something. I think I can answer your question, Kenny. You're saying what's the point of this?

[Matthew]

I'm so disgusted.

[Chris Reivers]

I know, but I'm going to answer your question. Oh, my God. I think the point of it is this hasn't. This kind of grilling has not happened here locally. It has not happened here. And presumably would not. The grip and power of the Walls gang is so powerful here that newspapers aren't going to do this. He hasn't been dragged into court. He has yet to face any consequences. He has yet to face any responsibility. So here is Congress.

[Matthew]

I'm 100% behind everything you just said. I absolutely. What I have a problem with is the social media style theater.

[Chris Reivers]

I can't do anything about that.

[Matthew]

It's below all of us, Joe. It's an insult.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, and again, I enjoy it because Walls is finally being questioned in ways that he should have been questioned here five years. Five years ago. Now, Congress, as far as I'm concerned, hasn't done their job. They're very good at this. I would love to hear them grill other people like this with this kind of intensity.

[Kenny Olson]

But she does make a point.

[Chris Reivers]

Of course it's a point. The point is that autism fraud was just more than food fraud.

[Kenny Olson]

And he probably does know all of those numbers, but he's hiding behind the I'm a knucklehead kind of a mindset.

[Matthew]

Well, I don't think he does know.

[Kenny Olson]

You don't think so?

[Matthew]

I don't think he's smart enough to retain it or even make a note to himself. And to reference.

[Chris Reivers]

Do you have any of the audio of Keith Ellison? Sure do, Joe, because he's just as complicit.

[Matthew]

Oh, God.

[Kenny Olson]

Worse, in fact, he was the one that kicked things off by saying that this all started.

[Chris Reivers]

Because there's another way to answer your question, Kenny, is that this could inspire local people to arrest Walls.

[Matthew]

Well, find some grounds. I'm all behind. Well, you know how I feel about him. I don't have to explain myself.

[Kenny Olson]

This was because the initial exchange, Kenny, because Comer Opened things up. Then Ellison spoke, and then there was a Lutheran pastor. I can't remember what her name was. And then she spoke and they basically ripped Trump and ice and they're the problem. But then there was this exchange between Keith Ellison and Tom Emmer.

[Chris Reivers]

This is a serious thing, Mr. Attorney General. You are the only one who thinks

[Kenny Olson]

protecting taxpayer dollars is political.

[Chris Reivers]

Mr. Ellison, my concern is that you actively obstructed this investigation in exchange for campaign donations. A quid pro quo. If these concerns are proven to be true, you should be disbarred and you

[Patrick]

should go to jail.

[Chris Reivers]

This.

[Kenny Olson]

I thought this was longer. I apologize. I'll find out.

[Matthew]

That was good. I like he.

[Chris Reivers]

He.

[Patrick]

But he's not.

[Matthew]

I didn't like his tone, but, boy, he hit it out of the park there.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

I got so many problems with Amber that.

[Kenny Olson]

That I kind of thought that was good.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, I mean, he's a tough talker here, but he.

[Matthew]

He's so much theater and, you know, tone down the talk radio stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Believe that to us.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Jesus.

[Chris Reivers]

He put a mint on Trump's pillow if he had to. So I have no. I have a lot of trouble with Emmer. I have a lot of trouble with him. But I love. I loved what Emmer said to Ellison because it's all true.

[Matthew]

Yeah. I have more problems with Ellison than I do Emmer.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, there is.

[Kenny Olson]

Go ahead, Johnny.

[Rookie]

Sir. Competition for Emmer in this area, you know, although the guy won't get many votes. A Republican, Mike Foley.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Rookie]

Yeah. His views align more with. I think, probably what we think, but. Yeah, I'm sure he'll get 1% of the vote in the primary.

[Kenny Olson]

Does he. Does he make his own signs?

[Chris Reivers]

Look, we've been governed. We're being governed by crooks.

[Rookie]

Very good.

[Chris Reivers]

We're being governed by crooks.

[Matthew]

Absolutely.

[Chris Reivers]

And. And again, I guess this goes to Kenny's question. I'm thankful for this. If this opens one or two eyes in Minnesota, that's one or two more than have been opened than currently because this state has done a poor, poor job, not only in legality, but in public commentary and what have you. These people have not been nailed down about this. They just haven't. They've been able to skate through the whole thing. It's. It's time.

[Matthew]

And I. You know, I'm guilty of this. On Crabby, too. We're going to talk about fraud again today and some angles we haven't heard yet. But it's time for us to start naming names. You know, we are.

[Chris Reivers]

It's Walls and Keith Ellison.

[Matthew]

But there's people. There's people below that perpetuated the fraud and kept it going. And also in the pca, of all places. And we'll get into that today on Crabby.

[Kenny Olson]

I have one final piece of audio. Are you guys ready for this? I think this might be the most significant portion of the program of this segment in terms of this audio.

[Chris Reivers]

I have been so excited to ask you this. I mean, you know everything about everywhere, right? So tell me seriously, how attractive are the girls from Forest Lake, Minnesota? Like, what's the vibe? On a scale of 1 to 10, what are we talking about here?

[Kenny Olson]

A very.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's certainly a direct question. When we talk.

[Chris Reivers]

Stop. I can't take it.

[Matthew]

It's one word, Chris. Thick with two. C, H, I, C, C. No other answer will work.

[Kenny Olson]

No further questions, your honor.

[Matthew]

AI, give me a break.

[Chris Reivers]

Boy, you go back a few years. I had no idea Walls was who he is.

[Kenny Olson]

You defended him earlier.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, no. I mean.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I meant in a.

[Chris Reivers]

During COVID Well, when it first happened, I had no idea he was this person. None. Ellison and Walls are complicit, I would imagine. You know, there's probably a great story of why Heather Mueller conveniently left as Department of education chief the minute the bleep hit the fan. There's a reason that Sherene Gandhi's predecessor left. You have testimony from people who work for the Department of human Services who say they were blowing the whistle and were told not to. And even more insidiously, I wonder if Walls got to it today. You'd have to listen to the whole testimony. I wonder if he floated that BS about how compassionate we are as a state. We're only trying to help people. That's the great, great fallacy of all this. They haven't helped anybody. They've only helped thieves.

[Matthew]

There's one person, I think, that knows the names, and I'm not going to say it on the air because I'm going to feed it to Coles and he's going to go after this person and we're going to find out.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, that's for the next show, isn't it?

[Matthew]

If you know the ins and outs of the feeding our future fraud, you'll know who I'm talking about.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, my guess would be Ilhan Omar.

[Matthew]

You're not gonna get her to admit anything.

[Chris Reivers]

No, I know that, but. No, no, you're gonna. I'm now convinced she's been, however vaguely, a background figure in. In this. However allegedly. I suppose I Should say a puppeteer. Still would love to have her on the air, man.

[Rookie]

Hold on.

[Chris Reivers]

What makes you happy, lady? What? What do you want?

[Kenny Olson]

Which one are you?

[Chris Reivers]

Who are you?

[Rookie]

If there. Okay. If there is wrongdoing here, do you think we'll ever see. I mean, illegal wrongdoing, purposeful, illegal, wrong.

[Chris Reivers]

I think what will happen is that Trump and Ellison will return to the state and be comforted by the anti Trump sentiment. What did I say?

[Kenny Olson]

Trump and Ellison.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay. Walsh and Ellison will return to this state and they'll be comforted by the. The attitude here that they couldn't possibly be wrongdoers. That's all Trump.

[Rookie]

What about, though, the federal investigation?

[Chris Reivers]

Shouldn't that somehow it should continue and arrest them? Yeah.

[Rookie]

Well, I'm thinking if they find proof, they will.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. And it can't happen without what happened today. That could not proceed.

[Matthew]

The very beginning. Should be the very beginning, really.

[Chris Reivers]

There's a long line of people who should be marched out of that state capitol in handcuffs.

[Rookie]

Then again, most of the people that knew about the fraud investigation were deeply involved, have quit the.

[Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, they took off. They're gone.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

The irony. Just kicking me right in the garage.

[Chris Reivers]

Yep.

[Matthew]

It sounds like we're getting ready to go to a break. And I want to give you guys something to hang your hat on. Something where life is exactly what it is supposed to be.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

The score from the hockey tournament right now.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew]

Hibbing. Chisholm versus Dodge County. Hibbing 3, Dodge County 0, I would imagine.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not surprised.

[Patrick]

I think Dodge county has three shots on goal.

[Chris Reivers]

Does Hibbing?

[Matthew]

They have a dozen at least, but Hibbing has twice the amount.

[Chris Reivers]

You want a population shift, Hibbing has to be with another school. What's 10 miles down the road. Yeah, but. But is Chisholm even on the uniform front? What I've seen is just Hibbing. Don't even see that. Just as Hibbing, really.

[Matthew]

And I don't have anything against Dodge County. It's just that, you know, hockey was invented up there.

[Chris Reivers]

Where is Dodge County?

[Kenny Olson]

Down by Rochester.

[Matthew]

That's Christmas neighborhood.

[Patrick]

They got a nice arena down there. And they've got a good girls program as well.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, their sports programs are growing. Yeah, they.

[Chris Reivers]

They're.

[Kenny Olson]

They're doing a nice job.

[Chris Reivers]

My Zephyr's playing the next game. Matamita, the Z. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

In an annual tradition, Rookie will give us the roster of Matam from 2017.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

What do you want to know?

[Kenny Olson]

That was the best. Roy just shredded you a new one.

[Matthew]

Let's Do?

[Chris Reivers]

Where are they now?

[Patrick]

What year was that?

[Kenny Olson]

He's 27. Ruck guy they played a while ago.

[Patrick]

He's in the NHL now.

[Kenny Olson]

He's played for the Raiders.

[Patrick]

Retired.

[Matthew]

How many have retired from the NHL?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, didn't you also give us golf scores from a tournament that was about 2 years old?

[Patrick]

That was. No, that was Puerto Rico Open, Colombo, Columbia, Columbia Tour.

[Chris Reivers]

Columbia Tour. What?

[Patrick]

Hey rook, why are they all named Rico and Rocco?

[Kenny Olson]

You know what, Let me ask you a question, Mr. Broadcasting hall of Famer. What do you remember more, rookie giving you an accurate roster from a high school tournament or that story?

[Patrick]

That's how memories are made, bro.

[Chris Reivers]

I remember the inaccurate stories.

[Matthew]

Such doesn't remember anything positive that we have done.

[Kenny Olson]

He just remembers.

[Chris Reivers]

When we measure your head, remember when

[Patrick]

you played the wrong thing.

[Chris Reivers]

Say, I hope you got through that fog this morning. She was pretty thick. Oh yeah, and I hope you didn't get in an accident, but if you did, you have to deal with an insurance company. They can be difficult to deal with. Get a hold of Bradshaw and Bryant. Personal injury attorneys, insurance companies and adjusters. They almost require to have a team on your side. Bradshaw and Brian and his team are there to explain your rights, represent you, help you through a tough time. I hope you're never in an accident, but if you. And I hope you're never hurt. Excuse me, but if you are, call Bradshaw and Bryant at 800-770-7008 or go to MinnesotaPersonal Injury.com for a free case evaluation. These guys are the best. Bradshaw, Mike, Bryant is top of the list here. And please don't be a part of the problem. Don't text and drive. Or drive. Distracted. That's just common sense. From Bradshaw and Bryant. Backman. Got it.

[Patrick]

Have your thing.

[Kenny Olson]

The earth is not your mother.

[Chris Reivers]

The Joe Sugere show.

[Kenny Olson]

You know we call that a palate cleanser because we are not AI generated. Neither is Hoferman water and Kinetico. And you know what? It's the best water treatment system known to man. Yeah, I'm saying it. You want to know why?

[Chris Reivers]

Why an economie? You want to know why?

[Kenny Olson]

Because you will get crystal clear, beautiful, scrumptious water. Everything is better with Hoffman water and Kinetico. Your cooking?

[Chris Reivers]

Yep.

[Kenny Olson]

Check your showers? Of course. Duh. Laundry. Uh huh. Ice. Oh my goodness gracious, yes. Everything is better with Hofferman water in Connecticut. You might not realize it just how bad your water is. I didn't. So I made the call to Hofferman Water and Conectico and you know what? They have made a tremendous difference in the quality of the water inside of my home. Your first step, however, is you have to get on that schedule and have them come out for that free water analysis. Call them up directly at 612-895-2440 or book your appointment online at hoffermanwater.com and as long as you're on that website, you can see every single different water treatment system known to man. And you know what? It's the best. Hoffermanwater.com they have been proudly serving the state of Minnesota for over 50 years. Please do me a favor and mention that you heard about I'm here on the Garage logic podcast.

[Chris Reivers]

Here's Mr. John Haidt.

[Rookie]

Thank you Joe. This news brought to you by North American Banking Company. Four of the six US Soldiers killed in the Mid east were identified yesterday by the Pentagon as members of the Army Reserve from different states who worked in logistics and kept troops supplied with food and equipment. One of those killed from the Twin Cities area, Sgt. 1st Class Nicole Amour of White Bear Lake, 39 years old, was one of the six killed. Amour enlisted in the National Guard as a automated logistics specialist in 2005. She transferred to the Army Reserve in 2006 and deployed to Kuwait and Iraq in 2019. Her awards and decorations include the Army Commendation Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Army Reserve Component Achievement Medal, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Service Medal, NCO Professional Development Ribbon, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbon and the Army Forces Reserve Medal with M device.

[Chris Reivers]

She's become a great living American at her young age. Yeah.

[Rookie]

Also killed 35 year old Captain Cody Cork of Winter Haven, Florida. Sergeant First Class Noah TGins, 42, of Bellevue, Nebraska and Sergeant Decline Declan Cody, 20 years old of West Des Moines, Iowa. All were assigned to the 103rd Sustainment Command which provided food, fuel, water and ammo, transport, equipment and supplies to other troops. A Hugo woman is charged with a felony after she allegedly left a series of threatening messages with Republican gubernatorial candidate and Minnesota House Speaker Lisa Damuth, according to a criminal complaint. On January 1st, the Minnesota State Patrol began investigating voicemails that 42 year old Rachel Welsh had left with Damith and another state representative. The messages to Damis started out with a caller saying, I'm going to come and meet you wherever you are. You should be wondering when we're going to come. On January 2nd, state troopers met with Welch to ask about the messages and whether she intended to do any harm. After that, the voicemails grew more intense and continued vows to find Damith and be there, quote, every step of your campaign. The day after a U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement officer shot and killed Renee Good in Minneapolis, Welch allegedly left voicemail calling Damith a traitor if she doesn't reverse course on immigration agents presence in Minnesota. In February, Welch's alleged voicemails began, including references to bulletproof glass and firearms, one saying, you are going to fall and I will be there. I'll be at the end of that barrel. Another message left on February 24th again mentioned Davis campaign and wanting to, quote, show you how good I've been getting at my Second Amendment classes. Court records indicate Welch was released from jail on Thursday of last week with a $20,000 bond. Per the terms of her release, Welch was ordered to relinquish any firearm she may have, cease all contact with Daymouth and submit to a mental health screening and GPS monitoring. Her next court appearance is April 7.

[Chris Reivers]

What has Damith said that so irritated this fruitcake?

[Matthew]

She's a Republican, Joe.

[Chris Reivers]

I guess that must be it, huh?

[Rookie]

Yeah, yeah. One of the people killed in a mass shooting in Austin, Texas last weekend was a Minnesotan and mixed martial arts fighter who had just moved to Texas, according to his mother. She said her 30 year old son, Jorge Peterson, graduated in 2013 from Kirkhoven Murdoch Sunburg High School, where he wrestled and played football, then earned a degree from ndsu. She said he moved to Austin last month for a new job. Peterson died from injuries suffered in the shooting, which also wounded more than a dozen other people. Early Sunday morning. Med City Fighting Championships, a mixed martial arts promoter based in Rochester, said Peterson was one of the people on their first card. He was, they said, a fantastic fighter and one of their favorite people to interact with. The organization also started a fundraiser to benefit his family. As of yesterday afternoon, it had raised more than $11,000. The suspect was fatally shot by police. FBI and local police have said a motive for the shooting is still under investigation and 20 cities based target posted another quarter of falling revenue and customer traffic at its stores yesterday. But there was some good news in it, too. Its shares rose as the retailer's earnings beat estimates and said it's poised to end its sales slump. The big box retailer, which is in the middle of a turnaround effort, said sales and traffic trends picked up in the last two months of the holiday quarter. Then sales turned positive year over year in February, which is the beginning of the current quarter. Speaking to CNBC on Tuesday, Target CEO Michael Fidelke said the company is, in his words, out of the gates, strong this year. He noted that one month of growth does not make a trend, but he said February sales gives him confidence the company is moving back to growth. Why don't we take a quick break here?

[Chris Reivers]

I Breaking news, though. Yes, well, Offset correspondent Jordy alerts us that only black smoke is rising from the chimney and terrain, so they haven't picked the new Supreme Leader yet.

[Matthew]

That was hilarious. Anyway, I'm kind of looking for a side gig. Maybe Matthew, you could warn your sister.

[Chris Reivers]

I hope you find one.

[Matthew]

I'm available as a travel agent. Chris, maybe you could kill the grouchy ones right there. So if, if you're a Minnesotan, you're coming into the Twin Cities this week from War Road or International Falls, or maybe even Hated Slayton. I'm going to fill up your schedule right now. In addition to the hockey going on in St. Paul, the northwest Sports show, presented by Furniture and Things, is at the Minneapolis Convention center tomorrow through Sunday. It's the largest annual outdoor show and it's all under one roof. It's bringing together everything boating, hunting, camping, fishing, outdoor adventure, you name it. It's massive. Over 600 exhibitors, tons of gear, tons of gadgets and lots of new stuff. I love the electronic new stuff they come that comes out every year. Absolutely the best place to plan your upcoming season. A great place to Compare brands, boats, RVs, you name it. It's all there under one roof. Oh, and the RV area, 60,000 square feet. My goodness. Buy those tickets early. Save yourself some money. Get online. Visit northwestsportsshow.com Save Money Northwest Sports Show.com

[Rookie]

Thanks, Kenny. In national and international news, update to what's going on in the Mideast. The U.S. state Department is encouraging Americans now in 14 different countries, including non essential staff and six Gulf embassies to depart immediately. An update came as President Trump said US Munitions were in hefty supply, potentially allowing the war to continue indefinitely, up from his projected timeline of four to five weeks. Israel, meanwhile, sent ground troops into southern Lebanon after Hezbollah launched rockets in response to US And Israeli strikes in Iran. Hezbollah is an Iranian allied militia, pledges allegiance to that country's supreme leader. Israel has said it destroyed at least 70 of Hezbollah's weapons storage facilities as of this morning and also claims to have killed the group's intelligence chief, among over 50 people reportedly killed. Separately, the Iranian Red Crescent reported a death count of 787 yesterday from the US and Israeli strikes in Iran.

[Chris Reivers]

I'd like to know more about the speculation that Iran is firing all their cheap stuff. The Parts bin stuff they got left over. They're just firing the hell out of it and they're saving their good stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

So you're talking like the discount tool

[Chris Reivers]

thing at Fratolones, betting that we might run out of our good stuff and they haven't launched their good stuff yet. They're just, they got something behind the curtain. They're launching $20,000 drones and it takes us a million dollar rocket to knock it down.

[Matthew]

That sounds like. I don't believe that.

[Chris Reivers]

I said I'd like to know more about it. Come on.

[Rookie]

Stuff.

[Matthew]

Definitely propaganda.

[Patrick]

This ain't no wedding at Cana.

[Rookie]

Meanwhile.

[Chris Reivers]

Meanwhile this good stuff till last.

[Rookie]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

No, but she just said make some more.

[Rookie]

Yeah, the story.

[Patrick]

I hope she's not there.

[Rookie]

First Wednesday of the month, it's one o'.

[Kenny Olson]

Clock.

[Chris Reivers]

Hearing a siren.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Meanwhile I'm getting the basement. If I were you.

[Rookie]

Yeah. Meanwhile this story from the military.com website. It's at a lot of other websites sites too and it's, it's. Oh, it's an odd story. An organization that's been fighting against religious extremism in the U. S military for two decades has reported they've received more than 200 new complaints since Saturday's initial strikes against Iran with members across all services in the U. S Claiming that high ranking officers are trying to tie the mission overseas to fulfilling a Christian prophecy.

[Chris Reivers]

Yep. I gotta read you a text from Patrick, but go ahead.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Rookie]

A combat unit commander told non commissioned officers at a briefing Monday the Iran war is part of God's plan and that President Trump was, quote, anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to earth. That complaint was made by a non commissioned officer and provided to the military Religious Freedom foundation which from Saturday morning through Monday evening received and logged more than 200 complaints from members of the military about commanders in every branch of the services saying the same kind of thing. A Pentagon spokesperson, when asked about the complaints and the ties to the ongoing mission in the Middle east did not directly respond to the question. Instead, they referred Military.com to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's remarks about on Monday about the United States intentions in the Mid East.

[Chris Reivers]

Pat, would you read me what you texted me last night?

[Patrick]

Hey, searching by. This religious stuff with the troops can't be true.

[Chris Reivers]

Can't.

[Patrick]

It's gotta be bullshit, right?

[Chris Reivers]

I mean, what the hell are we.

[Patrick]

Jesus is on our side. Let's. Let's have Trumper go.

[Matthew]

You have to admit though if you've read or you're familiar with the New Testament, I mean, this thought has come to mind.

[Chris Reivers]

It's that part of the world, Kenny. Sure. We got an end of the world situation. Just give me a week's notice.

[Rookie]

I gotta make a run to the store. Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, we all I see a lot

[Kenny Olson]

of While you're there, grab me a

[Patrick]

little bottle of Bombay.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, yeah, there's a lot of things

[Matthew]

that could come to a head this year. UFOs, aliens.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it's axiomatic that the more trouble the world's in, the more you hear about UFOs. And I'm just waiting for the loudspeaker announcement from the guy who slides the door open on the saucer and gets his megaphone and says, you people are really goofed up. Up.

[Matthew]

You want to talk about the Antichrist? Is the Antichrist a human being? Is it an angel from above or is it AI?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, there are various colors on the president that are not known to this planet. You know, the hair and the neck and the skin. These are colors we haven't ever seen before.

[Matthew]

Well, I set that up perfectly, thank you very much.

[Patrick]

Hey Jesus, just keep making drones like the loaves and fishes. Let's take a couple more drones here.

[Rookie]

Texas with some big nation influencing primaries yesterday. In a surprise upset, state Representative Steve Toth defeated U.S. rep. Dan Crenshaw. Crenshaw was defeated in Tuesday's GOP primary election, really being ousted as one of the state's most recognizable GOP congressmen. Toth, the fellow that defeated him, is the owner of a local pool cleaning company, considered one of the most conservative members of the Texas legislature, carrying a wide margin of the vote. The already Republican leaning district, which includes Montgomery and Harris counties, was redrawn last year to be more conservative, toth wrote on X early this morning. Big thanks to the voters of Congressional District 2. I will work hard for you. The contest was widely seen as Crenshaw's toughest since being elected to Congress in 2018 after he failed to secure the endorsement of President Trump.

[Chris Reivers]

Was he not MAGA enough?

[Rookie]

Correct. Crunch backed most of Trump's opinions, but differed on several big ones like the US and Ukraine. He also voted to certify the 2020 election, calling Republicans who disputed the results performance artists. Former Navy SEAL who has made a name calling out outrage culture among Democrats and Republicans alike. Crenshaw had been in an ongoing feud with right wing media figures including former Fox News host Tucker Carlson and conspiracy theorist Candace Owens. Toth campaigned as a More conservative alternative to Crenshaw promising to fight on mega issues like rolling back vaccine mandates, something Crenshaw has opposed among his backers. Robert Marling, a banker in the Woodlands and a longtime GOP donor who gave $1 million to a super PAC supporting US Senator Ted Cruz last October.

[Kenny Olson]

Speaking of Texas, didn't what's her name lose, too?

[Chris Reivers]

Crockett.

[Patrick]

But it's his next story. Oh, my God.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Sorry.

[Rookie]

State Rep. James Talarico topped Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett in an expensive and fiercely contested Texas Senate Democratic primary that once again has the party dreaming of a big upset in November. Who Tellariko will face now depends on a May runoff between longtime Republican Senator John Cornyn and mega favorite Ken Paxton. A race expected to get increasingly nasty over coming months could hinge on whether or not President Trump offers an endorsement to either of the Republican candidates. Texas, along with North Carolina and Arkansas, on Tuesday kicked off midterm elections with control of Congress at stake. No Democrat has won a statewide race in the Republican state in over 30 years. But in a statement after the victory, Talarico proclaimed, we're about to take back Texas.

[Chris Reivers]

I wonder if he's. I think he's more sane than Jasmine Crockett. Yeah. I think the country will, will, will survive the absence of Jasmine. Fred has already stated. Yeah. We encourage each and every one of

[Joe Soucheray]

you to remain resilient.

[Chris Reivers]

We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded.

[Patrick]

Come on.

[Chris Reivers]

Because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means

[Joe Soucheray]

cheating, then they will continue to do it.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you, Jasmine.

[Matthew]

It's now 4. 0 in favor of him.

[Patrick]

The Blue Jackets are running away with it. Kenny.

[Matthew]

It's kind of one sided. Matthew.

[Kenny Olson]

I know we didn' theater from Walls and Ellis and everything I did. I have to play this because this is pretty funny.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, is it? Is it? What is it? It's not AI, is it.

[Patrick]

Is it germane?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, if each of you would shut your pie holes, I could explain. John, help me out. Representative Fallon. I don't know where he resides.

[Rookie]

No idea.

[Kenny Olson]

Here we go.

[Rookie]

Is it Jimmy Fallon?

[Kenny Olson]

No, it's not Jimmy Fallon.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, Mr. Chairman, I don't know if you know this, but. But it's widely. It's been widely reported that in 2008, when Barack Obama was choosing his vice presidential candidate, he had three criteria. He wanted to make sure he picked somebody that wasn't as smart as him and had less talent and charisma and couldn't possibly outshine him.

[Patrick]

So we picked Joe Biden and Then

[Chris Reivers]

Joe Biden in 2020 used the exact same criteria. He wanted to make sure he picked somebody wasn't as smart as him, had less talent, charisma, and wouldn't outshine him. And he picked Kamal. And then in 2024, Governor, I think it's very evident why Kamala Harris picked you. I had.

[Kenny Olson]

I heard that. I said, oh, I can't play the song.

[Chris Reivers]

Wonderful.

[Matthew]

Perfect defense for what I've been saying. What was the purpose of that?

[Kenny Olson]

To make us laugh.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

I loved it.

[Chris Reivers]

To give me joy, boy.

[Matthew]

It served no purpose.

[Chris Reivers]

I feel buoyed.

[Matthew]

It's the happiest you've been all day.

[Chris Reivers]

I do. I feel happy. You're welcome.

[Patrick]

He had a hint of Norm MacDonald in.

[Rookie]

I almost said Norman as soon as he started playing.

[Patrick]

It's not clone, but It's.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, Mr. Chairman, I don't know if you know this, but it's widely. It's been widely reported.

[Kenny Olson]

You're right.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. That in 2008, when Barack Obama was choosing his vice presidential candidate, he had three criteria. He wanted to make sure he picked somebody that wasn't as smart as him and had less talent and charisma and couldn't possibly outshine him. So he picked Joe Biden. And then Joe Biden in 2020 used the exact same criteria. He wanted to make sure he picked somebody who wasn't as smart as him, had less talent and charisma, and wouldn't outshine him. And he picked Kamal Hay. And then in 2024, Governor, I think it's very evident why Kamala Harris picked you.

[Patrick]

That's pretty damn.

[Matthew]

I mean, that's what I'm talking about.

[Chris Reivers]

You're talking about.

[Matthew]

It's social media.

[Rookie]

Right.

[Matthew]

You know, that's a social.

[Chris Reivers]

I would love a joke. It's something the people, I feel need a joke right now because, you know, times are really weird. This is not my joke.

[Kenny Olson]

You didn't write this. No, I'm not playing the whole thing.

[Matthew]

No. I don't want to hear how Howard.

[Rookie]

That's Patrick Fallon, by the way, is who that is. And he is from Texas. He's a graduate of Notre Dame, where he played football under Lou Holtz, was part of the 1988 championship. He. I would guess he's fairly conservative because he wrote a bill that would allow students and employees to say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, that's an important bill.

[Rookie]

Never really understand.

[Patrick]

It was good for me.

[Chris Reivers]

Sid, was it good for you?

[Matthew]

Good news for you G ers down in Dodge county, your Team just scored.

[Chris Reivers]

All right, coming back. It's not over till it's over.

[Patrick]

Come on, 61.

[Rookie]

More Americans are digging into their retirement savings because of financial emergencies last year. Last year, a record 6% of workers and 401k plans administered by Vanguard Group took a hardship withdrawal. That's up from 4.8% in 2024 and a pre pandemic average of about 2%. The data paints a divergent financial picture of American workers finances. While most are faring well, some are experiencing heightened financial stress. According to Vanguard, workers have been saving more in 401ks and balances have gone up to all time highs along with rising markets. But with more People saving in 401ks, retirement accounts are being increasingly important lifelines when financial trouble hits. And the financial advisors say those financial troubles are hitting now as hard as they ever have.

[Chris Reivers]

Are you taxed on a hardship withdrawal?

[Rookie]

You are taxed, yes.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Matthew]

My retirement plan is to die in the gutter.

[Patrick]

Damn it. Kenny, my question for you was.

[Chris Reivers]

You stole rookie's line.

[Patrick]

No, no. I don't know if it was gonna be funny or not, but I was gonna say, Kenny, have you jumped into that $34 in the jar that is your emergency retirement fundship withdrawal?

[Kenny Olson]

I need booze.

[Matthew]

Well, it's not. I have a fun fund right, where, you know, you buy things and sneak them home.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, that's. Kenny, that's the GL stash.

[Matthew]

The stash is gone. Yeah, I've had to pay. I've had to use it for adults.

[Patrick]

Overdrawn on the stash.

[Matthew]

I hate that I have to use my fun money for adult stuff.

[Chris Reivers]

And unfortunately, the location of my stash has been found. Yeah.

[Patrick]

And they don't even leave.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm going to start this man right now.

[Rookie]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes, sir. John Goot. Did he follow Lou?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, he pre. Did he preceded Lou?

[Chris Reivers]

Whatever. Can we.

[Kenny Olson]

But the beauty of that opening, the interaction between the two hosts. If you'll. If you'll just indulge me for a second. Second.

[Chris Reivers]

Let's take our break. No, no. Start this man right now. Okay. Hey, let's get this guy out.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what we call synergy.

[Patrick]

My favorite is at the end of double flange on the joist when Pat says, hey, straighten that guy out. Hey, buddy, I had this.

[Chris Reivers]

I told you I had to stand on Pat. Yes. He wanted to say, get these guys off the air. I said, no, wait. Just wait. Just relax.

[Kenny Olson]

Create some magic.

[Matthew]

You have to also admit he's brilliant. Like when he went off on kids or the. Stop calling and asking where. He's just so angry.

[Patrick]

I'm gonna come over there and flick

[Chris Reivers]

your ear, you little brat.

[Matthew]

Stop calling and asking. Get off the phone.

[Rookie]

Stop.

[Matthew]

He was genuinely angry.

[Kenny Olson]

He was outraged over people wondering why Brian Harper couldn't win the batting title.

[Chris Reivers]

He didn't have enough at bats.

[Patrick]

You know who I ran into the airport today? Blackjack Morris.

[Chris Reivers]

Really cool. Was he his usual friendly self?

[Patrick]

He was actually very friendly. I gave him crap about being a Highland park grad, and he's in the long line and.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Did you go?

[Matthew]

He emasculated me. One day we were talking snowmobiling, and I told him what kind of sled I had. And Jack said, well, that's a cute little ditch banger.

[Chris Reivers]

John, thank you so much.

[Kenny Olson]

Did you give it to.

[Chris Reivers]

Sure.

[Patrick]

Remember that time seven, I worked with Joe and Pat. You're like, why are you working with those two dumb asses? The last time I talked to him, he did say something to that effect.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. Well, nice to see you, Jack. Yeah. Although no one had a better game. 6. Than 7. 7. Than Jack Morris in history, because, like Gabe 6.

[Kenny Olson]

They had to play another one.

[Rookie]

Well, Koufax was pretty good in 65. See?

[Kenny Olson]

Why do you got to do that? Why can't you just let us have a moment?

[Chris Reivers]

Mighty John, two days rest.

[Rookie]

He threw a shot out against 20.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah. But only at nine innings. Jack, go.

[Kenny Olson]

He went 10. What did Tom Kelly say? That's enough, Jack. And he said, I'm not coming out. Well, it's just a Gang Holtz coach

[Patrick]

the first 11 games. Goody coached the bowl game and then became the regular coach.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Here's today's sports hero.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, let's introduce a new Garage Logic part.

[Chris Reivers]

Look at this.

[Kenny Olson]

Quick Links Golf, ladies and gentlemen, based out of Chaska, Minnesota. Here's the deal. I kind of got into it yesterday with Mr. Fredaloni because they also sponsor the weekly Scramble podcast. And he looked at me and said, reivers, you don't know anything about golf. And I said, okay. You might be right. However, it's a local golf simulator company. You want to build a golf simulator inside of your house, get your own room. Yes. That's what they do there.

[Chris Reivers]

Joe, you're staying there.

[Kenny Olson]

They offer complete installation services, and they also offer DIY packages as well. And they have a wonderful local showroom, like I mentioned, down in Chaska, Minnesota. Multiple technology options that meet all different price points. And you can meet with them designing a renovation, a new home or new office space to ensure that the dimensions are right for a great simulator room, go to their website. By the way, quicklinksgolf.com when you go to that website, you can also see different styles that they have created. That's right. They have all sorts of recent projects that are available on their website. And you can also schedule a free project consultation. It's a really cool company. And you know what? You want to design that man cave? Talk to my [e-mail] Like I mentioned, schedule that free consultation and mention that you heard about them on the garagelogic podcast.

[Chris Reivers]

Joe, I have a prediction, okay. That if the world doesn't end at some point, this country will have a complete indoor golf course.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, really?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know when. I'm just saying that's a prediction here in Minnesota. I don't know where. I just say. I'm saying there'll be a complete indoor golf course. Here's a man who spends hours in hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life. Joe. Su.

[Matthew]

No.

[Chris Reivers]

Hello? Hello? Is this on? Yeah, hi. If I didn't do it.

[Rookie]

Okay.

[Patrick]

You sure?

[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

Is this the building?

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, this is the mayor. Was he dropped by three new skyway businesses that have opened in the last two weeks?

[Matthew]

We.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, coffee, you know, because coffee, wink, wink. You gotta have a coffee shop. And it's, it's sad because he's standing there, and there's about three people. You know, it's.

[Kenny Olson]

And one somebody's relative.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know. If you're gonna build back the city on skyway shops. It's a great sign. I'm glad.

[Matthew]

But take the sky.

[Chris Reivers]

Didn't we just sell a nice building there for a dollar?

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, I had brought this up yesterday. The Lumber Exchange building.

[Chris Reivers]

That's a nice building.

[Kenny Olson]

Building that worked at on the weekends for a number of years, sold for $1.

[Chris Reivers]

Can you imagine that? A time when the Lumber Exchange building was bustling with buzz.

[Rookie]

Remember it?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it wasn't that long ago as they were exchanging lumber.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, that. Well, sure.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, you go way back. You got the lumber, right?

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

But recently, up until Covid, you had the Exchange nightclub in the basement. You had the poor house that was massive. And then up above, you had the lumber event center that hosted many, many weddings.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, who bought it for a dollar?

[Kenny Olson]

Her name is Christy Oman.

[Chris Reivers]

Hell, I would have bought it for a buck. Then what are you doing?

[Kenny Olson]

The official sale price is $20,001. $20,000 is a fee due to auction. She's going to open it up to tenants for art.

[Matthew]

That'll fly.

[Chris Reivers]

That'll bring them in. So there it is.

[Patrick]

There's the.

[Kenny Olson]

Her plan is to designate some of the space for smaller tenants, such as artists, fashion companies, and creative businesses. They'll have options to pay as low as $500 per month in rent, which Oman believes will give smaller business a renewed chance.

[Matthew]

I think I'm gonna open up an autism shop there.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, the state would be happy to help you with that.

[Matthew]

Sell me some autism.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Come and get it.

[Chris Reivers]

Only because they come to us all the way.

[Kenny Olson]

Hold on.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Matthew]

I want to give you a primer for what's happening today on Crabby.

[Chris Reivers]

All right.

[Matthew]

Have you heard of something called the Promise act grant program?

[Chris Reivers]

It's right here in my pile.

[Matthew]

Yeah, it was something the state did. They were awarding grants to eligible businesses in communities that have been adversely affected by structural racism and other discrimination. So a guy downstairs, Ryan Rache.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Did a story about it earlier this week, and we looked into. Or he looked into, and I have since looked into a bunch of the people that were awarded these grants. About 99% of them are Somalis. So we're going to talk about that, and then the second half of the hour. Oh, this one's really good. A guy named. Named Scott Dexter. He was a retired investigator for the Minnesota Department of Human Services, and he was notifying his, his aboves, his managers and people at the BCA about fraud in the teens, in the 20 teens, and was routinely ignored. And Jay dug this guy up. You know how Jay is. If you're out there, he'll find you. And Jay did find him. So we're going to talk to him. And he, he's. We're the only outlet that he's gonna talk to. So it should be interesting. But like I said earlier, Joe, where are we going with this? Let's start naming names.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, I couldn't agree more.

[Matthew]

Anyway, that's today's Crabby. It'll be out later this afternoon.

[Chris Reivers]

Two names have been named, Walls and Ellison. Yep, we need more. Only because they come to us all the way from Penguin Tasmania.

[Patrick]

They're still there.

[Chris Reivers]

The Traveling Lineman'[e-mail] it was on this day, March 4, in 1854. On this day, St. Paul and Stillwater were incorporated as cities. On this day, March 4th in 1892, in Tower, Minnesota, Father Joseph F. Bew published issue number 11 of American. Amen Konsky Slovenak, the American Slovene, the first national newspaper for slovenes in the U.S. the paper had started in Chicago but had ceased publication after 10 issues. Buh. Buh, or Buh, who served St. Martin's Catholic Church in Tower and St. Anthony Parish in Ely, supervised the paper's publication until 1899.

[Patrick]

So it was after.

[Chris Reivers]

That's one of those ones that I'm surprised made this day in history, you know what I'm saying?

[Patrick]

That's. You know what?

[Chris Reivers]

You're scraping the bottom on this day, March 4th.

[Matthew]

I don't know. I thought it was interesting.

[Patrick]

I didn't see that.

[Kenny Olson]

I have no opinion.

[Chris Reivers]

Slovenik. On this day, March 4th in 1911, Jerry McCarthy and Peter Jewell escaped from the main cell house at the Minnesota State Prison in Stillwater after McCarthy somehow obtained a key that unlocked the bar running in front of the cell doors.

[Patrick]

And what did the key look like, Joe?

[Chris Reivers]

Big, you know, had a big circle at the end and thing.

[Patrick]

Yes, the skeleton key.

[Chris Reivers]

Jewel, a trustee making his evening rounds with a torch for. And that would have been a torch for igniting tapers stuck by convicts. Wait a minute now, check it out. Jewell, a trustee making his evening rounds with a torch for igniting tapers stuck by convicts in their cell, which, to light their pipes for a final night's smoke, used the key to release McCarty and two hard cases hastily climbed over a wall. On July, the two hard cases climbed over the wall. On July 15, McCarty, a burglar who had been sent to Stillwater for shooting at police officers, and Minneapolis patrolman Joseph Olinger killed each other in a close range revolver battle.

[Matthew]

Wow.

[Chris Reivers]

On August 12, Jules, sentenced for robbing a jewelry store. His name was Jewel J U H L was captured on the crowded Selby Avenue Lake street streetcar line after mortally wounding St. Paul detective Frank Frazier, who clung to Jewel until another officer felled the escapee with his police cloth. Wow.

[Matthew]

It's a novel.

[Patrick]

I would have thought he would have tried to blend in at the freight house or something.

[Matthew]

That's really good. Write that up. I want to see a treatment on that tomorrow.

[Chris Reivers]

On this day, March 4th in 1941, El Core native Sam Lopresti, a goaltender for the Chicago Blackhawks, made an astounding 80 saves in a game against the Boston Bruins. Despite this valiant effort, three pucks got by him and Chicago lost three to two. Holy mackerels. On this day.

[Matthew]

What an insult.

[Chris Reivers]

March 4th in 1942, I stopped 80

[Patrick]

shots and you guys could only score two goals.

[Chris Reivers]

I would have. Man, I can't.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[Chris Reivers]

On this day, March 4th in 1942, Tammy Fay LaValley, later Tammy Faye Baker, was born. In international fall with her husband, Jim Baker, she helped found three of the largest Christian television scams in the world. No television networks in the world, including the Praise the Lord ministry. After Jim was jailed for fraud and conspiracy, a charge for which she escaped conviction, she divorced him and married Ro Mesner.

[Patrick]

What's wrong with Roe?

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know who that is.

[Matthew]

On this day, people show up in the news. I think of Elmer Gantry and what a wonderful book that was.

[Chris Reivers]

On this day in Minnesota, sports, disappointment, history.

[Kenny Olson]

Who'd we lose to on March 4th?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, on this day in 1976, due process hearings were set for three Gopher basketball players. I suppose they had were cheating or something, and I think they were.

[Patrick]

Ronald Roe Messner, died in March of 25, was an American building contractor who built more than 1700 churches, including several

[Chris Reivers]

megachurch well, Tammy probably knew him from me. He was in the business. Yep, yep. The church business. Right.

[Patrick]

Wichita, Kansas.

[Chris Reivers]

I'll be damned.

[Matthew]

Elmer Gantry was drunk.

[Chris Reivers]

That's the first line.

[Matthew]

That's the first line for sins.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you.

[Kenny Olson]

G. Ellers, do us a favor and hit subscribe on the Garage Logic YouTube channel where you can watch the show each and every single day.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, wait. On this day in 1789, the US Constitution took effect.

[Matthew]

Nice.

[Rookie]

That was a good run.

[Patrick]

Yeah, it was.

[Chris Reivers]

A good run. Very good, very good. Nice run of the day.

[Patrick]

Shine the glow.

[Rookie]

Nice.

[Kenny Olson]

Time once again to check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice and he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, a big oil is down and jobs numbers are up.

[Josh Arnold]

Correct? Chris? Jobs numbers at least the private, private payrolls from the ADP report showed an increase in jobs over I'll say an increase in private payroll jobs over over S that could and I emphasize could be precursor to the jobs number coming Friday, which is typically seen as a big event. But in light of, of say the recent, recent fight in the Middle east, the jobs numbers may take a backseat. But a bigger issue and this we discussed yesterday was a market concerned about inflation ticking up because the price of oil has been on on the rise and the price of oil hit a recent high point of $77 a barrel before retreating yesterday. On the President, President's comment during a brief news conference while he was talking with the German prime minister during that conference, he did indicate that the US Would provide security for all ships moving through the streets of Hormuz. The streets of Hormuz is a major, major say thoroughfare for shipments of oil. It also indicated that the US Would take additional measures including providing insurance on those cargoes after the Iranian Republic Guard said they would burn any ship moving through the moving through the Straits of Hormu. I say the President's comments were welcomed by the market and oil is now much lower than it than it had been over the past several several days days settling around currently around $74 a barrel. That does take a little of the threat of inflation out though. Interest rate at least the 10 year treasury is still slightly above 4% after falling below that last week before the preemptive attacks on Iran started. I do emphasize the word pre emptive there. The stock market in general seems to have taken things there in stride but there has been a nice boost in the prices of defense stock, energy or oil stocks have come down. Should, should there be some resolution we'll say in the Mid east the price of oil and likewise I'll say oil will come down. A natural gas gas could stay a little bit higher. An Iranian drone did hit Qatari's liquid natural gas refinery and that has taken some liquid natural gas off the market pushing up liquid natural gas prices. We discussed yesterday taking a look at companies like Cheniere, market symbol LNG as one way to invest in this at least short term in this phenomenon. I will say that once this again this situation reaches some conclusion, price of natural gas could come down and with it Cheniere energy stock price any investments will say in oil or natural gas I would look at as purely speculative and extremely short term trading and that would be something I would caution against. Again I would however take heed and look at defense contractors. These companies could continue to get funding over time and that could include even local Honeywell, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman and Lockheed Martin as well as favorite Palantir which provides data analytics and artificial intelligence intelligence capabilities to the Department of Defense. And there they could see increasing contracts on their, on their success. Meantime, I have to say meantime we've seen earnings reports continue to come out as well as some interesting, I'll say interesting moves in the leisure space and we'll say good DraftKings and many of you may have participated in DraftKings vetting, but DraftKings is entered into the predictions market and now have a single application that you can use. I do believe that that could be available soon in all 50 states that would give DraftKings let's say a leg up several of their competitors and put them up against polymarket and Calci, both private predictions markets as well as the prediction markets from Interactive Brokers and Robinhood. Many, I'll say many analysts are now checking the prediction markets in terms of their collective wisdom around events.

[Kenny Olson]

Excellent advice.

[Josh Arnold]

Lastly, just want to word of caution and this is something that I have seen in times of we'll say economic stress and that is people tapping their 401ks for additional funds or spending. Not something that I would recommend unless it's a complete, complete emergency.

[Kenny Olson]

Excellent advice as always Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G elers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 4890 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reivers]

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