3/5 Bill Glahn from the Center of the American Experiment, GL's fraud expert

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast: March 5, 2026
Guest: Bill Glahn, Center of the American Experiment (GL's Fraud Expert)

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Episode Overview

This episode takes a deep dive into Minnesota’s ongoing welfare fraud scandals, centering on inadequacies in state fraud prosecution, recent Congressional hearings, and the roles of key Minnesota political figures: Attorney General Keith Ellison, Governor Tim Walz, and Congresswoman Ilhan Omar. Joe Soucheray (The Mayor) and the Garage Logic crew host fraud expert Bill Glahn for a detailed, often sardonic, but deeply informed conversation about the scale, organization, and seeming impunity around fraud, as well as the obstacles to holding public officials accountable.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Congressional Hearings and New Revelations

[02:49–09:17]

• Bill Glahn attended both the January Congressional hearing in person and a follow-up via livestream. He finds the hearings personally informative, noting new details are always uncovered, though he doubts the broader public fully grasps the gravity.
• A central new detail: During a 47-second exchange (about 2.5 hours into the latest hearing), Congressman Tim Burchett (R-TN) asked AG Keith Ellison why he hadn’t prosecuted two major Feeding Our Future-affiliated nonprofits: "Partners in Nutrition" and "Gargar Family Services."
• Combined, these nonprofits actually processed more state money (over $300 million) than Feeding Our Future itself, the previously spotlighted scandal organization.
• When pressed, Ellison claimed he couldn't prosecute these nonprofits but stated “they may yet be” – the first official hint these massive cases aren’t closed.
  • Bill Glahn: “That would more than double the size of the scandal if they went after these other two. No guarantee they will. But it's kind of interesting.” [06:03]

Notable Quote

“He [Ellison] claims he couldn't [prosecute], but they may yet be. So I thought that was real news that we have these two other nonprofits … when asked a specific question about it, he held out the idea that these two other nonprofits might still be prosecuted. And I had not ever heard that from any government official.”
— Bill Glahn [06:07]

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2. Ellison’s Contradictory Testimony and Responsibilities

[07:13–09:17]

• Congressman Burchett’s questions expose contradictions in Ellison's testimony; earlier, Ellison acknowledged the state's broad authority to prosecute fraud, then reversed to claim he couldn’t act.
• He claimed double jeopardy concerns, which Glahn and colleagues (like Scott Johnson at Powerline) dispute; the AG is explicitly responsible for nonprofit and charity oversight in Minnesota.
• Glahn critiques Ellison’s lawsuits against these nonprofits: “He didn't really ask for anything … just said, hey, stop doing that thing you've already stopped doing.” [08:06]
• Larger point: the AG’s office spent resources on lawsuits with no effect — no money recouped, no effective deterrent.

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3. Political Context: Ellison, Walz, Omar — Coincidence or Collusion?

[09:17–12:31]

• Soucheray observes a “hell of a coincidence”: On January 7, 2019, Walz and Ellison both took office; four days earlier, Ilhan Omar was sworn into Congress replacing Ellison.
• Since 2019, fraud in Minnesota grew so large and organized “it appears to be organized in some fashion.”
  • Joe Soucheray: “The fraud since 2019 has been so large and so widespread that it appears to be organized in some fashion.”
• Glahn highlights that both Omar and Ellison took large campaign donations from the very fraudsters under investigation, and Walz presided as governor.
• Walz himself described it publicly as “organized crime,” yet AG Ellison pursues little active prosecution.
  • Bill Glahn: “If there’s organized crime, you really think that the attorney general … would be interested in this? If you got ambitions as a politician, busting up an organized crime ring would go a long way to getting you there.”

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4. The Smoking Gun: Proof of Quid Pro Quo?

[13:35–16:29]

• Discussion on potential for indictments: it’s not enough to show campaign donations and “official acts”; must directly tie actions (“I’ll do X, you’ll do Y”) for a criminal quid pro quo — the so-called “smoking gun.”
• Key evidence: Amy Bock (Feeding Our Future director) was convicted, her lawyer released an audio recording of Ellison meeting with fraudsters and expressing support; however, it wasn't entered as formal evidence in court.
  • Bill Glahn: “We have coincidental Evidence, you know, I have the timeline … but where the dispute is, was there a deal?”
• Omar appears in a video at the Safari Restaurant (hub of fraudulent activity) praising her own legislative role in loosening regulations for the free food program. Translation by Somali speakers reveals she’s discussing how her policy helped these organizations, whose principals were later convicted.

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5. State Response: Accountability, Judiciary, and Legislative Maneuvering

[18:08–24:27]

• With mounting evidence and clear timelines, why haven’t prosecutions advanced?
  • AG Ellison claims double jeopardy concerns; others (Powerline’s Johnson, GL hosts) say this is not legally justified.
  • Judge Guthman was wrongly blamed by the Walz administration for restarting fraudulent food payments — he clarified in a rare press release he never ordered this.
• Media and local institutions are complicit or asleep; congressional hearings revealed Walz and Ellison’s lack of defense when confronted by tough federal questioning.
  • Bill Glahn: “[Congress]...really showed them to be the lightweights that they are when they're confronted with facts and they're not allowed to dodge...They have nothing, they have no defense.” [20:13]
• Legislative note: Minnesota House File 3423 proposes expanding AG’s Medicaid fraud unit and increasing its staff. Glahn is skeptical — "What we really need is a new attorney general. Keith has had seven plus years to prove that he's up to the job, and he hasn't.” [22:40]

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6. Judicial Roadblocks & State Dysfunction

[24:27–56:45]

• Instances of prosecution success snatched away — juries convict fraudsters, but Democrat-appointed judges overturn verdicts.
• The judicial and prosecutorial apparatus seems unable or unwilling to sustain consequences for major frauds.
• The culture of fraud in Minnesota is longstanding, but since 2019, amounts are “mind-boggling” and suggest high-level facilitation.
  • Joe Soucheray: “It had to have people in positions of power to enable it to continue. It could not … have been specifically by accident. This was a concerted, organized effort…” [35:47]
• Soucheray and crew express exasperation: “I cannot indict them. I have no proof that they arrange quid pro quo agreements with the fraudsters. But I do think the fraud is so big...it had to have people in positions of power to enable it.” [35:46]

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7. Frustration, Whistleblower Silence & Calls for Overhaul

[47:03–49:44]

• The GL team laments the lack of effective whistleblowers; those who have come forward have been ignored or silenced. "It's going to take whistleblowers, Joe. We're going to need a bunch of whistleblowers." [47:21]
• Satirical proposals fly: cutting deals with convicted ringleaders for inside info, or “get rid of every elected official in the United States and start over.” [49:05]
• The recurring note: despite public outcry on Garage Logic, mainstream media and authorities remain inert. The fraud continues.

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8. Ongoing Distrust in State Government

[55:20–56:45]

• The show references related stories — state employees caught in vandalism, AG’s office meting out weak discipline; Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty dropping criminal charges; all examples of systemic non-accountability.
• General sentiment: “The state does not work.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Joe Soucheray on fraud’s scale:
  “Beginning in 2019, the amounts of money have become mind boggling to the point where Joe Thompson prior to his resignation said every agency in the state potentially is rife with fraud. Well, so for seven years this has been the case.” [34:23]
• On lack of trust in MN leadership:
  “I think the truth has been staring us in the face for a long time ... For all I know, they're all saints. ...I personally do not believe that, but I cannot indict them. I have no proof that they arrange quid pro quo agreements with the fraudsters.” [34:23]
• On state dysfunction:
  “There’s no getting around the anger that people should be feeling about the way this state works. You know why it doesn't work? The state does not work.” [55:23]
• Bill Glahn on enforcement failures:
  “He has this Medicaid fraud unit ... but, a few months ago, they had gotten a jury conviction ... $7 million for Medicaid ... A state judge threw out the verdict. ... What do you gotta do to make any progress?” [23:21]
• On potential for accountability:
  "If one person tells us what happened, we're going to need somebody else to confirm it. We need at least two people to confirm that." [47:03]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:49] - Start of main interview, new hearing revelations
• [04:54] - Detail on new nonprofits (Partners in Nutrition/Gargar Family)
• [06:07] - Ellison's contradictory testimony
• [09:17] - Political timeline: new administration, rise of fraud
• [13:35] - Quid pro quo and missing “smoking gun”
• [15:14] - Ilhan Omar’s video & Meals Act ties to Safari Restaurant
• [19:18] - Judge Guthman, on false narrative about restarting payments
• [20:19] - Congressional hearing exposes Walz/Ellison weaknesses
• [22:40] - Proposed AG office expansion, Glahn’s skepticism
• [34:23] - Historic scale of 2019+ fraud
• [35:47] - Organized crime enabled by positions of power
• [47:21] - Need for (missing) whistleblowers
• [55:20] - Ongoing bureaucracy failures, dropped prosecutions

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Tone & Style

The conversation is frank, wry, often bitterly humorous, and occasionally exasperated. The Garage Logic team leaves little room for political correctness or sugarcoating, but provides a “common sense” investigation in their signature “Gumption County” style, combining both lay skepticism and dogged pursuit of detail.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

If you missed the episode, the Garage Logic team and Bill Glahn provide a thorough, skeptical analysis of massive, unprecedented fraud in Minnesota’s welfare programs, calling into question the response of elected leaders Ellison, Walz, and Omar. Glahn reveals that the total scope of the scandal could more than double based on new Congressional testimony, but the legal and political system seems either unwilling or unable to prosecute major players. The team details failures in enforcement, legislative loopholes, and systemic indifference — all with dark humor and a deep sense of civic betrayal.

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For More Detail:

• Find Bill Glahn’s related columns at American Experiment
• Full Garage Logic episodes and notes: GarageLogic.com

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[End of summary.]

Transcript

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[Bill Glahn]

Billy, how's it going?

[Joe Sucier]

How are you?

[Bill Glahn]

I'm doing fine.

[Joe Sucier]

You were at the first hearing in Washington. When, two months ago?

[Bill Glahn]

Yeah, that was early January. Kind of that first full week of January. And I Was Fortun to be there in the room in person for the full five hours. But the one happened yesterday, I had to watch watch it on YouTube remotely, so couldn't get there in person.

[Joe Sucier]

Do you find those hearings helpful? Are they leading us anywhere?

[Bill Glahn]

Well, they're helpful to me. You know, I don't know how much of it breaks through to the general public. You know, maybe they'll see a headline. I've seen some headlines, top three takeaways or Top five takeaways from the Walls Ellison. And it's interesting to me as somebody who's been involved in investigating these cases for all these years, there's always some new detail that comes out that I hadn't been aware of. Whether that's worth five hours of hearing time in a state US Capitol, I don't know. But it's always interesting to me, some new detail that comes out about the cases, something that I hadn't heard before or putting two and two together.

[Joe Sucier]

Let's get to that new detail. You have a piece in today's on the American site, American Experiment site today, and you preface it by writing this. There are probably fewer than 100 people in America who would understand the importance of a 47 second exchange during today's marathon 4 hour and 20 minute US House Oversight Committee hearing at the Capitol. But the brief sequence gets to the heart of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison's nonfeasance, malfeasance or feasance in regard to the multibillion dollar welfare frauds plaguing the state. Explain that for us. That 47 seconds that you would describe, I bet, as a new detail that you've become alerted to.

[Bill Glahn]

Yeah. And so it came almost two and a half hours into this four hour hearing. And it was a congressman from Tennessee. Congressman Burchett of Tennessee represents the 2nd district. And he was asking Ellison specifically about two other nonprofits involved in that free food scandal. And he mentioned them by name. And they are partners. And everyone's heard of Feeding Our Future. That's the scandal. Feeding our future took $250 million. Didn't really feed many kids with it. And he asked about two other nonprofits and they were partners in nutrition who did business as partners in quality care. And the other one was called Gargar Family Services, also known as Youth Leadership Academy. Kind of getting into the weeds here. But these were two other nonprofits of

[Joe Sucier]

which there were many under the umbrella of Feeding our, Feeding the Feeding Our Future.

[Bill Glahn]

Well, yeah, but these were two of the biggest ones. In fact, added together, they're bigger than Feeding Our Future itself. It's like more than $300 million associated with these two other nonprofits.

[Joe Sucier]

All right.

[Bill Glahn]

And he asked Keith Ellison what he did, if anything, about these two. And Keith had made a very interesting comment. He said, well, why didn't you prosecute them? And he claims he couldn't, but they may yet be. So I thought that was. That was real news that we have these two other nonprofits that we've known about for years that have never been charged in the case. And when asked a specific question about it, he held out the idea that these two other nonprofits might still be prosecuted. And I had not ever heard that from any government official that these other nonprofits. So that would. That would more than double the size of the scandal if they went after these other two. No guarantee they will. But it's kind of interesting. I think everybody kind of feels like the. The feeding our future one is played out, that we've heard the last of it. Yeah, there are a few defendants who have yet to be sentenced in the case, but we're kind of done with that. And then here's Keith Ellison, of all people, talking about these two other food nonprofits. And he said, they may yet be prosecuted. So I kind of took a little something away from that exchange.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, what you took away from it is they couldn't be prosecuted. Correct.

[Bill Glahn]

Well, again, that's so bizarre because he claims this is Keith Ellison. He was asked a direct question, Congressman Burchette. He said, well, why didn't you prosecute them? And I said, well, he said, I can't then, which directly contradicted a bunch of other sworn testimony he had given in the two hours before where it came out that, yes, he has power to prosecute frauds other than Medicaid fraud. Everybody, including Keith, acknowledges he could go after Medicaid fraud, which is a federal program, but he can go after it as a state prosecutor. And then he had to concede a couple of times earlier in the hearing that, yes, as a state prosecutor, he can go after frauds involving federal dollars other than Medicaid. And he admitted that. And then it seemed odd in this exchange with the Tennessee congressman that all of a sudden he's back to, oh,

[Joe Sucier]

I can't prosecute that because that would be double jeopardy.

[Bill Glahn]

Well, you know, that's my theory. But my colleague at Scott, Scott Johnson at Powerline kind of wrote a follow up post to mine and laid out a no, no, no, they can't really claim this is double jeopardy. And he lays out the legal. But, you know, again, I'm trying to understand, like Heath Ellison, he is supposed to be not just the chief legal officer of Minnesota, but specifically has been given the portfolio to regulate all nonprofits, all charities in the state. His office is in charge of regulating nonprofits and Feeding Our Future. Partners in Nutrition Garga are all nonprofits. And he didn't do anything to prosecute Feeding Our Future. And he filed a lawsuit. This is the point of my piece. Filed a lawsuit against these other nonprofits, including those two, and didn't really ask for anything. Didn't ask for money back. He didn't ask for them to cease and desist. He just said, hey, stop doing that thing you've already stopped doing. And I was struggling to find, you know, why. What was the point of taking taxpayer dollars to file these lawsuits when you're not accomplishing anything with it?

[Joe Sucier]

Have you ever wondered why Ellison gave up a congressional seat to return here and run for Attorney general? And then I'll continue once. Once you answer that question. Have you ever wondered that? Just for the.

[Bill Glahn]

Oh, sure, sure, I've wondered, you know, because he was the congressman from Minneapolis.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah. He's fifth.

[Bill Glahn]

History for life.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah.

[Bill Glahn]

You know that, that once you're in, just like Ilhan Omar, once you, you're in that you. There's really no chance for you to lose again. You could be there for 30 years if you wanted to be. And then the Attorney General, you're not guaranteed a job. You got to run for reelection every four years. And, you know, his last election, he barely won.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, I have nowhere to go with this, but I wonder if some sort of truth has been staring us in the face for seven years. On January 7, 2019, Walz took office for the first term. On January 7, 2019, the victorious Keith Ellison took office as Attorney General. He was replaced in Congress representing the 5th district by Ilhan Omar. I have nowhere to go with that. But it's one hell of a coincidence that suddenly that's when the. Now you can make the argument that this state has suffered some fraud for the last 50 years. But the fraud since 2019 has been so large and so widespread that it appears to be organized in some fashion. And I don't know where to go with this, but Ellison and Walz take office the same day. And in Washington four days previously, Ilhan Omar took office where I. Maybe I have nowhere to go with that.

[Bill Glahn]

Well, it's true. I don't think anybody would dispute the fact that Ilhan Omar was Keith Ellison's hand. Picked successor that he had backed her run for the state legislature earlier. And that when he decided, for whatever reason, maybe just got bored of being a backbench congressman, you know, the lifestyle is not that great. You got to fly out and back twice a week. It's kind of a crappy lifestyle. But yeah, he gave up a safe seat for a seat that's not so safe. And I think he probably even gets less salary than he did as a congressman, as attorney general. It's not a hugely lucrative profession, at least in terms of government salary. But yeah, these are three of the people most prominent in the fraud scandals are Omar Ellison because both of those took huge campaign donations from these fraudsters. And of course, Tim Walls, because he presided over the whole thing as governor. And in fact, you mentioned organized crime. That's a phrase that Tim Walls himself has used to describe these fraud scandals. He says that we have organized crime going on in Minnesota and this organized crime has, has been behind these multi billion dollar Medicaid and food frauds that have been going on under the watch of Tim Walls. So if there's organized crime, you really think that the attorney general of all people would be interested in this? You know, if you got any kind of other ambitions in life as a politician, busting up an organized crime ring would go a long way to getting you there.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, what if you were part of it?

[Bill Glahn]

Well, it's interesting. Rudolph Rudy Giuliani, you know, he was a federal prosecutor in New York City and busted a bunch of organized CR activity in New York and rode that to become mayor of New York and all kinds of other high positions. But yeah, again, we've all heard the audio recording. The 54 minutes of Keith Ellison meeting with defeating our future fraudsters, pledging his support for them and taking on the Department of education. He took $15,000 in campaign donations from feeding our future fraudsters, including a couple of people who were in the room that day when you had that meeting with them. So, you know, he's certainly involved in it. But you know, he over and over they fooled me. He told the congressman yesterday. They fooled me. I was, I was duped by them. You know, our sophisticated, hard bitten lawyer and prosecutor had the wool pulled over his eyes by these fraudsters. He come as much as anyone.

[Joe Sucier]

Where do we go? What do we need to either arrest these three, I'm saying three Walls, Ellison and Omar, or shut up finally, because they're innocent. Could Amy Bach be offered some sweetheart sentencing deal if she would spill the beans?

[Bill Glahn]

Well, it's interesting you Know, she hasn't been sentenced yet. She's been convicted on all counts. Trial last year. She hasn't sentenced yet. And it was her lawyer, that's the person I got that audio recording from. Her lawyer was going to introduce the Keith Ellison audio recording as evidence in the case of the higher ups. Knew. And you know, in the end, he didn't get it into evidence in front of the jury, but he gave it to me and I published it at our website. And, you know, it's got picked up. They talked about it many times yesterday in that congressional hearing. And there was another. It was a video of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar that she made inside the safari restaurant while the fraud was going on. So the fraud had already started. She made this video. Unfortunately, the audio for that video, she's speaking in the Somali language. So unless you know the language, you can't say exactly what she's saying, but the translation has come out that she's talking about. This provision that she put in a bill that passed Congress that loosened up the regulations for the free food program.

[Kenny Olson]

Was that the Meals Act.

[Bill Glahn]

The Meals Act. She bragging that she made it easier for people like safari restaurants.

[Kenny Olson]

She did.

[Bill Glahn]

To participate because restaurants weren't. Weren't allowed to participate independently. She's bragging that she was able to enable the safari restaurant participating in the food program. She knew the owners of the restaurant. She had held rall and campaign events in their facility. They also have an events facility. And of course, the principles of that were all convicted in the food fraud. So she knew these people. She took campaign donations from these people. You know, is this something that a prosecutor could use, you know, to go against her? You know, all kinds of stuff being said, but, you know, I'll believe it when I see it. I'll believe it when an indictment is handed down.

[Joe Sucier]

What would it take for an indictment to be handed down?

[Bill Glahn]

Well, you have to show some sort of quid pro quo that she introduced the Meals act in exchange for campaign donations or some consideration. And the same with the other two. That they committed an official act, that is with Ellison, that he did in fact go to bat for them with the Department of Education or the.

[Joe Sucier]

He did. We know that he did.

[Bill Glahn]

And so. But you gotta, you gotta. You gotta link A to B, that I went to bat for you for the Department of Education. Therefore, now you give me $15,000 in campaign donations. You know, it's, it's. It's gotta be a direct link. And with. You gotta have the smoking gun. We have coincidental Evidence, you know, I have the timeline. Everybody acknowledges the timeline. There's no dispute about it. But where the dispute is, was there a deal? Was there an agreement? You say, I will do this and you will do that and that, you know, as much as close as we came in the audio recording, I don't know if we're quite there.

[Kenny Olson]

Bill, I was looking into earlier today just what she was up to in 2020 in Washington.

[Joe Sucier]

That's her first year there.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. In addition to the Meals act, she either authored, co authored or was a part of other bills regarding coronavirus and Covid that went through, including the Suspending School Meals Death act, the Coronavirus Emergency Non Congregate Housing act, the Pandemic Protection Act. Here's one I really like. The Coronavirus Economic Relief for Transportation Services act and the Pandemic Child Hunger Prevention Act. I haven't had time to read all of those. I'm just looking up things she was involved with in 2020. Found it interesting.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah.

[Bill Glahn]

Well, you know, you ticked off a bunch of the other fraud ridden programs that we have.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Bill Glahn]

So again, you know, she took campaign donations from those folks at Safari Restaurant and other of the fraudsters. But, and she certainly performed official acts that helped them out. But was there some sort of pre quo. Was there an agreement? Because she and Keith Ellison will say that, you know, hey, I was just helping out constituents. Constituents brought to me problems and I helped solve those problems. And if they were generous enough to give campaign donations, I, you know, I don't deal with that. That's the, that's my campaign treasurer. You know, I don't know what goes on in terms of my campaign account. I don't believe that. But you know, again, where's the evidence? And there was a lot of talk yesterday in that congressional hearing about Tim Wall and why the Walls administration restarted payments to those food fraudsters that they knew were fraudsters, that they knew these folks were ripping the program off. They had stopped payments from for them. But for whatever reason, there's never been a good explanation. They restarted the payments.

[Joe Sucier]

Was the Judge Guthman did not order the repayments to start. He's been lied about.

[Bill Glahn]

He's been very clear. And it was great that I think more than one congressman read aloud the judge's order and the judge's press release. Judges never put out press release.

[Joe Sucier]

No. And the world he had to work in to get that letter out. He had to go to the highest superiors in the state, in law enforcement, in judicial circles and say, I really want to write this letter. I'm being portrayed as someone who was ordered these payments to start again and he was given permission. By all means, please release that letter.

[Bill Glahn]

Yeah, and he did. His order was unambiguous. His press release was ambiguous, speaking about the judge. But as recently as yesterday, Tim Wells was telling Congress that, wow, there was ambiguity about the judge's order.

[Joe Sucier]

See, he's been getting away with that and that's a lie.

[Bill Glahn]

There has been no ambiguity yesterday.

[Joe Sucier]

No.

[Bill Glahn]

Again, what amazes me about watching you said, well, what benefit do we get from these sort of hearings? Another benefit I think the public gets from it is seeing people like Walls and Ellison with all of the defenses stripped away so they're not in front of some local media person who's throwing them softball questions and lets them just go on filibustering the answers. The congressmen and congresswomen who were interrogating the two really showed them to be the lightweights that they are when they're confronted with facts and they're not allowed to dodge and they're not allowed to filibuster or change the sub. They have nothing, they have no defense. So it was interesting that time and again Walz and Ellison were confronted with statements they've made or actions they've taken and called to account, which doesn't happen here in Minnesota. That media don't push them, they don't ask follow up questions. They're allowed to get away with just having their press releases quoted. But yesterday they had to raise their right hand, swear to tell the truth and, and withstand the, the facts being thrown back at them. And I didn't think they acquitted themselves. Well, no, I didn't. Shown to be the second rate talent that they are.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, no, you're not done, Joe.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Something I wanted to run by you, Bill. It happened in the House here in Minnesota a couple of weeks ago. House File 3423, the bill that aims to expand the Attorney General's power to prosecute Medicaid fraud. Are you familiar with this?

[Bill Glahn]

I'm not familiar. I'm familiar with the Attorney General's powers, but I'm not familiar with that one particular.

[Kenny Olson]

It sounds good on the surface and I'll just give you a quick overview. The lawmakers are considering what they call the Medical Assistance Protection act, which proposes to increase funding and authority for the Attorneys General's office to combat fraud. What it really does is it gives the Attorney General 1.23 million annually to boost the staff from 32 to 50. That's what the bill does well, again,

[Bill Glahn]

this would be good if he uses those extra staff to go prosecute Medicaid fraudsters. But if he's going to use his staff to, I don't know, file more lawsuits against Donald Trump to. And what we really need, you know, what we really need is a new attorney general. So if a new attorney general has that budget money to spend next year 2027, it could be a good thing. But Keith has had seven plus years to prove that he's up to the job and he hasn't.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, he's going after Fleet Farm and he went after those bars that dared to sell a drink during the pandemic.

[Joe Sucier]

Somebody threw out a bar of soap that probably poisoned a swamp.

[Bill Glahn]

Yeah, it's just amazing. And again, he has this Medicaid fraud unit. This has been part of his office from before he was Attorney general. It's been around for a long time and they've done some good work whether he's been the attorney General or not. But it was just amazing. The other, I guess it's the other month now. A few months ago, they had gotten a jury conviction of a guy for stealing $7 million for Medicaid, convicted of a felony in court, $7 million. And a state judge threw out the verdict. You know, it's in, it's. You think you finally crack the code. Oh, Keith Ellison's prosecutors got a big win in court, snatched away by some Democrat appointed judge who didn't, who had to substitute her judgment for the 12 jurors who reached a unanimous verdict. They heard the testimony, they reached the conclusion and she said, nah, they got it wr. And I think Keith Ellison and his prosecutors are appealing that. But you know, it goes, what do you got to do? What do you got to do to make any progress in this area?

[Joe Sucier]

We will trust that you'll stay with it and we'll always be in touch.

[Bill Glahn]

All right, thanks for having me. Bon.

[Joe Sucier]

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[Joe Sucier]

10 minutes.

[Kenny Olson]

It's the end of the world as

[Joe Sucier]

we know it and he feels fine.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe Sushere It's Play for Patrick Positive Thursday and the Minnesota State High school tournament time brought to us by Schoon over Body Works and Auto Care right there in Shoreview, 1060 County Road E. All things related to Play for Patrick can be had this week in the Grand Casino arena at the hockey tournament. Hi, Mike.

[Mike]

Hey, Kenny.

[Kenny Olson]

What do you got going on down there?

[Mike]

Hey, we're gonna go down to the let's Play Hockey Expo. So it's a, it's a trade show for everything hockey. And this will be our first year being down there.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute, where is, where is it?

[Mike]

This is, this is at the auditorium next door.

[Bill Glahn]

River.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[John Height]

It's a really, it's a really good trade show with all sorts of interacting hockey stuff. It's a really good show to go to.

[Bill Glahn]

Yeah, we're pretty excited.

[Mike]

Yeah, we're pretty excited for it. So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna share what the foundation does with folks. And then more importantly, we're gonna teach people how to do CPR and how to use an aed.

[Joe Sucier]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

I can't. And can. Will you accept donations? Will you accept my personal check or should. We will.

[Mike]

And we have, we have those, we have those fancy QR codes. So you can do it right from your phone too.

[Kenny Olson]

Nice.

[Mike]

And Kenny.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Mike]

They can also register for the upcoming Heart Screen in Monticello on April 18th.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, that's very convenient. So what times we're starting when? Obviously not today yet.

[Mike]

No, we're going to go down there and set up today and then tomorrow it's I think from 10 to 6, and then Saturday, I think it's 10 to 5, something like that. So. So Gellers, if you're in the neighborhood, stop on by and say, hey, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

If there's a break in the action, stroll over there, go in and say hi and check it out. I am assuming you're going to be there live and in person.

[Mike]

I will.

[John]

I will.

[Mike]

Not that that means anything, but yeah, I'll be there.

[John Height]

Mike. You know what I thought I found to be the biggest surprise? When you're teaching somebody how to do the defibrillator, they walk away and go, I can't believe how easy it is. So if you get a chance to go down there, I would go and just. It'll take you 30 seconds and you walk away going, I know how to do that now.

[Joe Sucier]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Mike]

So we're hoping that we, we, we can teach a lot of people and

[Bill Glahn]

get some people to practice. So.

[Mike]

Should be a fun weekend. And obviously it's a, it's one of the greatest weekends in the, in the, in the year with the high school hockey tournament. It's just so exciting to be down in St. Paul.

[Kenny Olson]

Mike, do you need me to run down there and teach mouth to mouth? I can do mouth to mouth. Really good at mouth to mouth.

[Mike]

Come on down, Kenny. And you know what? I bet You Joe would join you.

[Kenny Olson]

I just like saying mouth to mouth.

[John Height]

I got a really bad.

[Joe Sucier]

I would show up but not anything to do with touching anybody.

[Kenny Olson]

Come on Joe. Mouth to mouth, baby.

[Mike]

Meanwhile, I look forward to seeing you guys.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Bill Glahn]

Thanks Kenny.

[Mike]

Thanks boys. Have a great positive Thursday.

[Joe Sucier]

Thank you. Well, Bill Glahn is a student of the fraud, as are we. And I don't know what we need. We need indictments. But in order to have the indictments, more digging would have to be done to find out if there were agreements.

[Kenny Olson]

We need a translation of that video that Amy provided of Omar at that meeting.

[John Height]

But what happens if you do get that? Is it going to be thrown out just like the like built Refused?

[Joe Sucier]

Not if you can establish that it constituted an agreement. But I don't. I think the truth has been staring us in the face for a long time. You can make the argument that fraud has existed in Minnesota for 50 years. But I would submit to you that for the first 40 years it was almost the cost of doing business. A lot of stuff falls off the back of the truck or comes in through the window.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a very good way of putting

[Joe Sucier]

just happens in the amounts of money were not mind boggling. Beginning in 2019, the amounts of money have become mind boggling to the point where Joe Thompson prior to his resignation said every agency in the state potentially is rife with fraud. Well, so for seven years this has been the case. And on January 7, 2019, Walz took office. On January 7, 2019, Ellison took office. Four days prior to that, Ilhan Omar slid into Ellison's seat representing the 5th congressional district in Washington. For all I know, they're all saints. They're going to be canonized. Well, not if you're Muslim, but they're going to be canonized as good, good people who have only had the interests of their constituents at heart. I personally do not believe that, but I cannot indict them. I have no proof that they arrange quid pro quo agreements with the fraudsters. But I do think the fraud is so big.

[Chris Reivers]

How big is it?

[Joe Sucier]

It's so big that it had to have people in positions of power to enable it to continue. It could not. None of this could have been Specifically by accident. This wasn't money that fell off the truck as the cost of doing business. This was a concerted, organized effort to steal the state of Minnesota blind. And it was successful and continues to be. I don't know where to go with that except bring you people like Bill Glahn and bring you others. I don't know what to tell you except we're all naive to think that this is something that should be brushed under the rug. And don't fall for the walls trick of continually trying to deflect this onto Trump. He tried it yesterday where he said, well, this ice surge disrupted our efforts. The ice surge might have come to town claiming they were coming by fraud, but they weren't. Get over it, Walls. Trump has nothing to do with the fraud that's been taking place in Minnesota since 2019. Nothing. So that doesn't work to try to hope that. And in Minnesota there are many prematurely gray haired, 42 year old morons who believe that. Well, if you're against fraud in Minnesota, it must be because you're pro Trump. That's not the case. The fraud in Minnesota is unique and distinct and completely separate from whoever happened to get elected president in the last election. Has nothing to do with it. This took place in 2019 and has been continuing. And I don't know where to go with it. I personally don't have the staff to send out into the streets to do this. The newspapers do not appear interested. Plus the newspapers are horribly understaffed. We're in a tough place here because I do believe that these are the people responsible.

[Kenny Olson]

And to make our position worse, the loss of Joe Thompson couldn't have come at a worse time. Right when we need him the most and he has, he was doing a lot and uncovered fraud that we haven't even heard about yet. We received a tip from Joe about some fraud that's happening that nobody even knows about yet in the division of a division that's just getting drained dry. And there's something ongoing right now, today.

[Joe Sucier]

And I blame Trump for Joe's resignation. The Trump administration came in and said, you people, you people look the other way. You're going to have nothing to do with looking at the Renee Goode situation and the Preddy situation. We'll handle it. That was too much for Thompson to take.

[Chris Reivers]

But wait, didn't he, didn't he resign because they wanted him to investigate the fiance or not fiance?

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah, yeah, sorry.

[John]

And they wanted to investigate the shooting itself and the federal government wouldn't allow that.

[Chris Reivers]

Correct.

[Joe Sucier]

Reason Thompson and those guys and are your leadership. And really your lack of leadership is. Laura has been responsible for one of the largest rip offs of the American taxpayer in our history. And you traded, I believe, political expediency, the currency of political expediency, for your integrity. And, you know, Mr. Chairman, I don't know if you know this, but it's widely. It's been widely reported that in 2008, when Barack Obama was choosing his vice presidential candidate candidate, he had three criteria. He wanted to make sure he picked somebody that wasn't as smart as him and had less talent and charisma and couldn't possibly outshine him. So we picked Joe Biden. And then Joe Biden in 2020 used the exact same criteria. He wanted to make sure he picked somebody wasn't as smart as him, had less talent, charisma, and wouldn't outshine him.

[John]

And he picked Kamala. Her.

[Joe Sucier]

And then in 2024, Governor, I think it's very evident why Kamala, Kamala Harris picked you. The talent pool. It's funny, but it's not getting us anywhere.

[Chris Reivers]

You're right.

[Joe Sucier]

It's not getting us anywhere. So that's today's fraud report.

[Chris Reivers]

Here's today's.

[Joe Sucier]

Here's today's fraud report.

[Chris Reivers]

Sports hero. God. Hey, speaking of that, Lou Holtz died.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah. Well, you got to die sometimes.

[Chris Reivers]

Okay.

[Joe Sucier]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

Good stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Talking about him off the air yesterday.

[Chris Reivers]

I think so.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah. Yes, he had a good run.

[John Height]

89.

[Chris Reivers]

89's not a bad run.

[Joe Sucier]

And he had that mysterious but for Notre Dame clause in his contract. He could. I'm going to be here forever. Except for that Notre Dame clause on

[Chris Reivers]

the ESPN story they ran online. They did have his photo with the inside the Dome, which I thought was interesting. Why. Why would they pick that photo?

[Joe Sucier]

Oh, I don't know. Well, he was only.

[Chris Reivers]

Coach freaking Notre Dame.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, I know, but he only. Well, Chris, who had the photo? Which paper?

[Chris Reivers]

Jesus. I didn't think it was that big of a curve.

[Joe Sucier]

No, I'm going to straighten you out.

[Chris Reivers]

Who had the ESPN ran up, ran a story online and they. And they used a stock photo of him at the Dome as the Gopher

[Joe Sucier]

coach, which I thought if it was a local outlet, I would have assumed it was because that's when he was here. But you're telling me that it was an espn and that's why I felt it's a. It's a side. Side issue we don't need to get into. That's. That's fine.

[John]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

Do you want to take a time out there, boss.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah. To stab you in the heart.

[Chris Reivers]

What did I.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, anyway.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, Here we go.

[Joe Sucier]

No, that's it, folks. There's nothing more we can do except read the tea leaves and point people in the right direction. And I don't know what it's going to take. I don't know what it will take. I have to review what Glenn was telling us about the judge who threw out the guilty verdict on a guy who ripped off $7 million I. That's a new one to me. What day will you look that up?

[Chris Reivers]

We talked about that.

[Joe Sucier]

I'm sure we did. But, Chris, I'm not remembering it. And I'd like it. I'd like your story printed for me.

[John]

All right.

[Joe Sucier]

What is it? So if you can find it, I'd like that story guy that fraud. Yeah, take a break. If you want guys that wanted fraud.

[Chris Reivers]

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[John Height]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[John]

Yes, it is.

[Joe Sucier]

The earth is not your mother. The Joe Sucere show.

[Kenny Olson]

Me. Yeah, me. It's happening right now. Sports show, the Northwest Sports Show. It's presented by Furniture and Things. It's at the Minneapolis Conventure. Today through Sunday. This is your chance to see the largest annual outdoor show all under one roof. The outdoors. Indoor. It's bringing together everything. Fishing, boating, hunting, camping, outdoor adventure, you name it. It's massive. Over 600 exhibitors. Tons of gadgets, gear. Brand new stuff.

[John]

Stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Boats. You can compare a Crestliner to Glastron. Do those two names even exist in the boat world? I don't know. I will tell you one thing. Boats like my pontoon, the cirrhosis of the liver, these nuts. You ain't gonna see crap like that at this show. It's only the best. And it's the best place to plan your upcoming season. A wonderful chance to compare brands. Things to do for all ages. Seminars where pros share walleye musky tips. Plus seasons sessions on new gear and technology. It's all there. Tons of RVs. Get those tickets before you go down there. I imagine they're right there on your phone. So you just flash your phone, right? Go to northwestsportsshow.com get those tickets now. Northwest Sports Show.

[Chris Reivers]

Ken, I have a question about that. Ken, they did.

[Kenny Olson]

No further questions.

[Chris Reivers]

They did a live shot on Fox 9 this morning that was super cool from there. What are those things called that look like a fishing boat, but it almost has like a. The front end of it is like a deck with almost like a balcony look to it.

[Mike]

Oh, I don't fish.

[Kenny Olson]

That's for bow fishing. Like carp and rough fish.

[Chris Reivers]

The coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, I almost want to buy one just to put it in a pond so I can sit in it. It was the coolest thing ever. Kenny, I'm listening to you. Unlike the rest of the people in

[Kenny Olson]

this room, I'm actually more interested in what they're laughing at than what you're talking about.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, I've been bit at rookie for 10 minutes.

[Chris Reivers]

Turn me down, turn my phone, and

[Joe Sucier]

it's my phone in my back pocket.

[John]

Whoops.

[John Height]

It was fun.

[Joe Sucier]

I'm sorry if you were offended.

[Kenny Olson]

I wasn't offended.

[Joe Sucier]

I'm not offended.

[Kenny Olson]

I think Grievers is offended.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not offended at all.

[John Height]

Were you guys talking while we were doing.

[Joe Sucier]

Be quiet.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm in don't give an F mode right now.

[Kenny Olson]

How's that any different from any other day?

[Joe Sucier]

I'm not. I'm not. I'm so angry about this. This fraud that I'm not comporting myself very well. It's so terribly obvious to me what's happened in this state, and it's so disappointing that nothing's been done about it.

[Kenny Olson]

You got to have proof, my friend.

[John Height]

Do you have a prediction as to what will happen or will it just be.

[Joe Sucier]

I do not have a prediction.

[John Height]

You don't think we'll get to the bottom?

[Joe Sucier]

I don't think so. Wow. It's. It's our version of the Epstein files.

[Kenny Olson]

And you know what?

[Joe Sucier]

Nothing's going to happen.

[Kenny Olson]

I just realized since we're held to a higher standard, given our lawyers upstairs, if one person tells us what happened, we're going to need somebody else to confirm it. We need at least two people to confirm that.

[Joe Sucier]

It's almost the way the government treats UFO information. They believe that the public couldn't handle it. I think the fraud is so vile in Minnesota they are getting away with. We can't really reveal it because the public couldn't handle it. It to realize how poor we are because of the money they're stealing.

[Kenny Olson]

It's going to take whistleblowers, Joe. We're going to need a bunch of whistleblowers.

[John Height]

Why hasn't there been already?

[Joe Sucier]

Kenny?

[John Height]

That's why.

[Chris Reivers]

There's been a bunch, though.

[Joe Sucier]

There's been a bunch and they've been.

[Chris Reivers]

They've been ignored.

[Joe Sucier]

They've been quieted.

[Kenny Olson]

They haven't named names. That's the problem.

[Chris Reivers]

It comes down to voter id.

[Joe Sucier]

It wouldn't bother me a bit if you went to Amy Bach and said you can spend the rest of your life on a Pacific island. We'll pay for it. Just us. Everything you know, because it'll be cheaper for us in the long run than supporting you on the Pacific island.

[Chris Reivers]

Grant her immunity is what you're saying.

[Joe Sucier]

Something. Something is got.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, that sounds good. Perry Mason here's height.

[Chris Reivers]

No, but you're right. It almost has to become a Soprano style. Hey, we'll grant you immunity. You got to tell us the scope here.

[Kenny Olson]

What world are you guys living in?

[Joe Sucier]

The world where you go to Amy Bach and cut a deep.

[John Height]

Yeah, she would.

[Joe Sucier]

That's the world I'm living in. Where. What world are you in? What are you going to do about it?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm going to go out coyote hunting. As soon as this is done.

[John Height]

Maybe you could run down to the conventure.

[Joe Sucier]

The Conventure? Yeah, the convention. You invented a new word during your ad. You said all this Northwest sports show at the convention.

[Kenny Olson]

Did I say that?

[Chris Reivers]

That's what started the tirade in this room.

[Joe Sucier]

Rookie's phone kept going off. Only it wasn't Rookie's phone.

[John Height]

Can't be my phone. It's up my ass.

[Kenny Olson]

There's a ue in there, right? You know what?

[Chris Reivers]

Tell me more about the monkey bunk house.

[Joe Sucier]

No.

[John]

Oh my God.

[Joe Sucier]

John Heights News.

[John]

No more since you guys. Well, I Mean, one more thing, since you guys keep coming up with these, you know, silly ways to take care of all this that aren't going to work, I'll tell you mine. Here's what we need to do.

[Chris Reivers]

Here we go.

[John]

Get rid of every elected official in the United States and start over.

[Joe Sucier]

I'm with you.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm on board.

[Joe Sucier]

I'm on board. I am on board. I'm on.

[Kenny Olson]

Problem with that, that is it's going to take elected officials to. Okay, getting rid of elected officials.

[Joe Sucier]

We could replace them with a whole new group of fraudsters.

[Kenny Olson]

We could do it old school. John Tar a rail, run them out of town.

[Chris Reivers]

What do you do? Do you start top down or bottom up? Johnny?

[John]

Oh, I'd start top down.

[Chris Reivers]

Of course.

[John Height]

Kenny's more of a bottom up kind of guy.

[Kenny Olson]

Hello.

[Chris Reivers]

Aren't we all?

[John]

Let's. Yeah, let's move along now, shall we?

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

John.

[John]

In the news, we start with a sports note that we've already mentioned. Lou Holtz, former Gopher football coach and the man who led Notre Dame to a national championship in 1988, has died at the age of 89, according to his family. In a statement released by Notre Dame, it was said Holtz died in Orlando, where he was surrounded by family. A spokesperson said a cause of death was not provided, but he had been in deteriorating, deteriorating health and went into hospice care last month. Immediately before he began his tenure at Notre dame, Holt spent two seasons, 1984 and 85, coaching the Minnesota Gophers. He inherited a team that went 1 in 10 in 1983. The next season, his first year, 1984, they were 4 and 7. Then in 1985, 6 and 5. And they earned a trip to the Independence bowl, which they won. But at that point, Holtz had already accepted and offered a coach Nostradamus, that being his dream job.

[Joe Sucier]

Go. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[Bill Glahn]

You're gonna say something.

[Chris Reivers]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Joe Sucier]

Really? Is it okay?

[John]

Yeah.

[Joe Sucier]

Is there somebody on Twitter named Yasher? Does anybody know that name? Yeah, sure.

[John]

Isn't he?

[Joe Sucier]

He's reporting Christy Gnome's been fired.

[John]

He is a media. Yashir Ali, right?

[Joe Sucier]

I believe he's reporting that Kristi Noem has been fired. Fired?

[John]

It's certainly been rumored the last two days.

[Joe Sucier]

Maybe you could look that up.

[Mike]

We're doing it.

[John]

Yeah. You guys do that while I read news, huh? In news, the appearance of ICE agents in the Twin Cities, according to local police departments, cost them a lot of money. Chief Brian o' Hara informed city council members in Minneapolis that police services. That police services cost the city over 5.2 million bucks in January, the majority of that being overtime expenses. During the 12 week peak immigration enforcement period, over 50,911 calls made to police. More than 500 shifts were extended. Over 1,000 off days canceled for officers. Also said nine officers were injured, 14 filed for PTSD and eight retired. All of the above leading to further overtime costs for the department that's exceeded its own overtime expense record for the last few years. Last year, the department exceeded the budget by $19 million, mostly due to 31 million spent on overtime. Asked what officer overtime cost the city during a typical month last year, the chief said, I would anticipate a little over 2 million for this particular time of year, not 5 million. It spikes depending on what's happening during the year, but it's certainly unprecedented to have that much overtime in January. Asked if police could have done more to intervene or report concerning behavior by immigration agents, o' Hara said, to my knowledge, no. Some suburbs like Brooklyn Park, Apple Valley, Robbinsdale, Hopkins and others also reporting huge spikes in costs due to the ICE agents being there. They cite overtime in the cost of moving vehicles that were left when ICE detained people.

[Chris Reivers]

The Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is leaving the department and being replaced by Senator Mark Wayne Mullany, Republican out of Oklahoma. President Trump announced a short time ago.

[Joe Sucier]

So she was one of Trump's stooges, but she over. She didn't stooge. She over. She screwed up her stooging, right?

[John]

Yeah. Mullen's probably not going to make the other side very happy either. He's a very conservative fellow, shall we say?

[Joe Sucier]

Well, nothing wrong with being conservative if you do the job correctly.

[John]

Just read up on Mr. Mullen.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

[John]

A man involved in the plot to bribe a juror in the first Feeding our future trial. Remember that has been sentenced to almost five years in prison, followed by your unsupervised release. Abdul Karim Farah entered a guilty plea of to bribery of a juror in April. One count of conspiracy to bribe a juror and one account of corruptly influenced influencing a juror were dismissed at sentencing. According to court documents, Ferris surveilled the juror and their house. He also drove co defendant Laden Ali to the house to deliver the bribe and recorded a video of her dropping off the cash with the juror's relative. The relative told investigators Ali had promised more money if the defendants were acquitted at trial. When prosecutors told the judge about the bribery attempt, Farah tried to delete evidence from his phone while he was in the courtroom.

[Joe Sucier]

John, speaking of sentencing, do you have Dylan Adams in your news?

[John]

I have it. The next story isn't that time.

[Kenny Olson]

Look at that.

[John Height]

It's like incarnate.

[John]

Remember, Dylan is the fella, the Minnesota Department of Human Services employee who keyed multiple Teslas in Minneapolis last year. Well, we found out now, it turns out for doing that from the Department of Human Services, he received a one day unpaid suspension.

[Joe Sucier]

That's harsh. That's harsh.

[John]

Letter obtained by 5EYEWITNESS News from DHA shows that Adams was issued a one day unpaid suspension which he served January 22nd. The letter shows he was allowed to return to work the next day. DHS said in a statement to a question from 5 Eyewitness News, we expect employees through their words and actions to hold themselves to the highest standards of honesty, integrity and ethical behavior. A careful review of the facts in this case determined this employee's action actions seriously undermined public trust and violated our code of ethics. As a result, the employee was suspended for one day without pay.

[John Height]

They throw that in his permanent file then too.

[Joe Sucier]

Look at, look at, look at. There's no getting around the anger that people should be feeling about the way this state works. You know why it doesn't work? The state does not work.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, to back that up, it was a Mary Moriarty who dropped the charges.

[Joe Sucier]

He has no criminal charge whatsoever. And this is after his boss Walls was out on the camp, you know, on the chautauqua stage, doing his vaudeville act, complaining about Tesla and how the stock prices are going down, how much he enjoyed it. Because the idiot didn't know that most retirement funds in Minnesota for public employees held a great deal of Tesla stock. This got this. Nothing I can't link.

[Kenny Olson]

I second every weird sound you just made. Yeah, totally. Yep.

[John]

Not adding to your mood for the day, is it, Joe? No. Adams was arrested back in 2025. He vandalized six Teslas. Keying the vehicles caused about $21,000 in damage. After his arrest, as Kenny said, Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty decided not to file charges against him, referring him to an adult diversion program. Minneapolis Police Chief Brand o', Hara, when the drop charges were announced, said his officers were frustrated that Moriarty's decision not to pursue charges against Adams.

[Joe Sucier]

Estate doesn't work anywhere you look. It just doesn't work.

[John]

And Shakopee based amusement park Valley Fair has been sold along with six other parks to a real estate investment trust

[Chris Reivers]

for about six bucks.

[John Height]

Yeah, a couple magic beans and A Snickers and a couple Coke.

[John]

A little more than that. Six Flags announced the sale to EPR Properties in a deal valued at $342 million from Parks. EPR will partner.

[Joe Sucier]

That's nothing to sneeze.

[Chris Reivers]

I stand corrected.

[John]

EPR will partner with Enchanted Parks to run Valley Fair, and all current park employees are expected to be transitioned to the new company. Companies say Valley Fair will continue operating as normal through this season. All passes and members will be honored. Valley Fair, opened back in 1976, operates more than 75 rides, roller coasters and other attractions on 125 acres in Shakopee. Opening weekend this year, set for May 9.

[John Height]

Serious question.

[Joe Sucier]

I had to do my duty and go there a few times. It's a sixth ring of hell.

[John Height]

I was just gonna say serious question. Name the last time you were there.

[Joe Sucier]

I wouldn't do the kid crap with that. It's a sixth ring of bell.

[Bill Glahn]

20 years ago.

[Joe Sucier]

20 longer than that.

[Kenny Olson]

I was there the first week they

[John Height]

opened and in front of like nine people.

[Chris Reivers]

Like, I was at first down.

[John Height]

When were you there the last time?

[Kenny Olson]

I could have guessed that I was about 13, which would make it.

[Chris Reivers]

I was there last summer.

[Kenny Olson]

78.

[Chris Reivers]

It's near where I live. And I can tell you right now they got some issues.

[Joe Sucier]

Really?

[John]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Sucier]

All I remember is some kid.

[Chris Reivers]

Unaccompanied youth is their biggest problem.

[Joe Sucier]

Some kid threw up in the line ahead of us, and they. And all I remember is that the product used to sop up this stuff is called Mishap.

[John Height]

I love that.

[Joe Sucier]

That's a great euphemism. Get that bucket of mishap, Joe.

[Kenny Olson]

My last trip there involves a bit of Americana. It was from up here. And four of us kids rode in the back of a pickup box.

[Joe Sucier]

Oh, my God. The whole way there.

[Kenny Olson]

Freeway, all the way there and back. We sat in the. The back.

[Joe Sucier]

That was better than any ride you got at Valley Fair.

[Kenny Olson]

I'll never forget it. And then I have a story about what happened when we get got there, but I think I save it for next week. Off the air.

[Joe Sucier]

Here's Kenny.

[Kenny Olson]

Actually, I can. I can clean it up. I'm sitting on a park bench by the old. The old roller.

[John Height]

High roller.

[Joe Sucier]

The.

[Kenny Olson]

What's it called? The roller coaster?

[John Height]

Yeah, High roller.

[Kenny Olson]

And my buddies are egging me on to go on a ride, but I told them I couldn't because across from me, a gal was sitting on a park bench and she had one foot up on the bench and her entire swimsuit area area was Hanging out invisible. And I just sat there for about 20 minutes.

[Joe Sucier]

Hanging out.

[Kenny Olson]

No, Matthew, it was hanging out the entire, the entire swimsuit area. And I was obviously unable to stand up.

[Chris Reivers]

Hold on, hold on. We're not doing anything until I do this. And here's Kenny. Hold on, hold on. There's 13 year old soul man Kenny Hillson.

[John Height]

And I'm good with drool coming out.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't want to go get candy.

[Kenny Olson]

Leave me alone.

[Chris Reivers]

No, you guys go ahead.

[Kenny Olson]

Go away. Get away from me.

[Chris Reivers]

No, you guys go ahead. I'm just gonna sit here.

[John]

I did have a Valley Fair story, but I am not following Kenny's story. So why don't we take a quick break here and hear from Mr. Re.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm doing this big treat.

[Joe Sucier]

I, I'm leaving 10 year old Kitty.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't play with a sick dangling from his lip going, no, no, you guys go ahead.

[Kenny Olson]

Come on advice, but let's go on the ride. No, I'm on my own ride. Right?

[Chris Reivers]

Or something like, you know who's gonna appreciate this lead in.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's go have some roast beef.

[Joe Sucier]

I, I don't want to do this.

[Chris Reivers]

Linda, I am, I am terribly sorry about this lead in for kellertaxservice.com different 1. Who in God's name was I gonna pick to lead into this?

[Joe Sucier]

They got nuts today. Yeah, but they're nuts.

[Chris Reivers]

That would have been a really bad leak. Lindakeller and kellertaxservice.com, listen up, dummies. Get on the schedule. Wow, my goodness, it's already March 5th. I gotta send my stuff in. By the way, 320-352-0013 or kellertaxservice.com how about this email? Are you guys ready? Hey, Reivers, just a quick note to say thanks again for introducing me to Linda Keller and Keller Tax Service. We just wrapped up our third year working with her. After hearing about her on the air and on the podcast and she continues to deliver, I can confidently say that she makes the entire process incredibly easy. The annual checklist keeps. You guys know your mics are on, right?

[Joe Sucier]

We got her.

[Chris Reivers]

The annual checklist keeps everything organized. And the online document submission couldn't be more convenient. I think I spent a total of two hours on tax prep this year, which seems borderline irresponsible. And like Ken, I'm now patiently waiting on my federal refund just in time to square things up with the state of Minnesota. The circle of tax life continues. Like I said, kellertaxservice.com. linda Keller is on top of your taxes even more than you are, and that's why she's the best. She's a g eler. She's winding things up because it's tax time right now. 320-352-0013 or kellertaxservice.com Please make mention that you heard about her on the Garagelogic podcast. Johnny Height, thank you.

[John]

And Maya stuff. Linda will be coming to you in the next week or so.

[Joe Sucier]

Yes, I'm glad you all use the show to communicate with her. Why don't you just call her up?

[Chris Reivers]

She's a daily listener.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, the lights went off in the arena at the hockey game.

[Joe Sucier]

Oh, really?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John]

They still off Fraud.

[Chris Reivers]

So I bet it's fraud.

[John Height]

Excel Energy.

[Joe Sucier]

All right, well, it's downtown St. Paul. There's probably no electricity.

[Kenny Olson]

No one pays the bill. The Grand Casino Arena, Matthew. Oh, they're back on now. Here we go.

[Chris Reivers]

Here we go.

[John]

In news from a national and international bent, the US Senate failed to advance a war powers resolution to limit President Trump's authority to wage war with Iran, 53 voting in favor that short of the 60 votes that would have been needed. The vote came after Turkey said NATO forces shot down an Iranian missile headed into its airspace. Earlier in the day, the Pentagon confirmed the US Navy had torpedoed an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean near Sri Lanka. The attack late Tuesday marked the first time a US submarine has downed an enemy ship since World War II. There were more than 170 people aboard the ship, named the Iris Dena and nicknamed Soleimani. Remember, he was the late Iranian general killed by the US in 2020. Sri Lankan authorities rescued 32 survivors. They also recovered 87 bodies. Authorities say they're still looking for the remaining bodies. Meanwhile, Iran launched a new wave of attacks against Israel and American bases and countries around the region today, warning the US Would, in their words, bitterly regret torpedoing that Iranian warship. Tehran's expanding retaliatory strikes came even as Israel and the US hammered Iran for the sixth day. The war has escalated each day, affecting now 14 countries across the Middle east and beyond. Israel, meanwhile, issued a mass evacuation warning for all of Beirut's southern suburbs as the fighting escalated with Lebanon's Iran allied Hezbollah military militants. UN Peacekeepers reported ground combat in southern Lebanon as more Israeli troops crossed the border.

[John Height]

What's the average price of gas today?

[Joe Sucier]

Who cares?

[John Height]

316 or 4 bucks for premium.

[Chris Reivers]

Did you just ask yourself a question?

[Joe Sucier]

Are you talking to yourself? Yeah.

[John]

That's weird.

[John Height]

I Just, you know,

[John]

the Department of Justice, those monkey bunk houses. The Department of Justice, which has been criticized for withholding files about Jeffrey Epstein from the public, now plans to release a new batch of documents relating to Epstein, quote, fairly soon, according to DOJ sources. All of this comes one day after a House Oversight Committee approved a motion to subpoena Attorney General Pam Bondi to question her about the DOJ's handling of its investigations of Epstein and documents about him that is required by law to be released to the public. Representative Nancy Mace of South Carolina said in a post on X this morning. AG Bondi claims the DOJ has released all of the Epstein files. The record is clear. They have not. Mason a blistering remark about Bondi on this morning to reporters said, I have a lot more questions and I don't expect to be talking about the stock market, so she'd better not bring those notes when she comes to the Oversight Committee. That comment referring to Bondi telling members of the House Judiciary Committee last month that they should be talking about a strong, strong stock market and not the Epstein files. U.S. representative Tony Gonzalez yesterday acknowledged he had an extramarital affair with a former staffer who later died by suicide as the House Ethics Committee investigates allegations involving their relationship. The Texas Republican, who was married with six children, said the relationship with married staff member Regina Santos, who died by suicide, was a mistake stake and a lapse in judgment. He added, since then I've reconciled with my wife Angel. I've asked God to forgive me, which he has. And my faith.

[Joe Sucier]

How do you know he has, pal?

[John]

And my faith is as strong as ever. Would your guys wives reconcile after that?

[Joe Sucier]

No.

[John]

No, I, I'd be.

[John Height]

No, probably dead on one of your couches.

[Joe Sucier]

That'd be a non starter.

[John]

House rules prohibit members of Congress from engaging in sexual relationships with employees under their supervision. Santos Aviles previously had served as Gonzalez Regional District Director. She died by suicide in September of last year. Authorities said she set herself on fire outside her residence.

[Joe Sucier]

This is a terrible story. Did, did she do that because she was distraught? That's this guy reconciled.

[John]

I don't think there's any note or anything, so I don't know.

[Joe Sucier]

Seriously. That's horrible, John.

[Kenny Olson]

Did she do it in front of his residence?

[Joe Sucier]

And this guy wants to continue to be a politician? There's no, there's no character anymore. Go away, you idiot.

[John]

Hey, God's forgiving him. Leave him alone, will you?

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah, wait a minute.

[Chris Reivers]

Kenny. Kenny asked. Kenny asked a good, good question.

[Kenny Olson]

No, John answered. It was in front of her house. Her house.

[Chris Reivers]

And she's not herself on fire?

[John]

Correct.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh my God.

[John]

U.S. nuclear Regulatory Commission has approved its first construction permit for a commercial nuclear reactor in eight years. Years one that will allow a Bill Gates backed company to build a sodium cooled reactor in western Wyoming. Terra Power filed for the permit in 2024 and construction is now set to begin within weeks. Completion of the up to $4 billion plant is targeted for 2030. According to TerraPower. Microsoft co founder Gates, who was eyeing nuclear generation as a power source for the electricity hungry data centers behind artificial intelligence, is a founder of Terra Power and it's and is its primary investor.

[Joe Sucier]

What was the name of the woman who set herself on fire?

[John Height]

How about Gacy with that Epstein file stuff, huh?

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah, he's all right.

[John]

Regina Santos Aviles. I see Regina.

[Joe Sucier]

And the congressman's name was Tony Gonzalez. What state is he from?

[John]

He's from Texas.

[Joe Sucier]

Democrat or Republic? Republican.

[John]

He's a Republican.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah, well, he doesn't have any courage or character. He should resign.

[John Height]

The people need him, Joe. The people need him to stay at

[John]

a big shaker in Louisiana. Did you see that?

[Joe Sucier]

Saw that, Johnny?

[John]

4.9 earthquake rattling Louisiana struck 36 miles south southeast of Shreveport. The earthquake happened around 5:30 in the morning our time. There have been no immediate reports of significant damage in the area. Earthquakes of this magnitude are rare in Louisiana. Since early December, northwestern Louisiana has recorded eight earthquakes, but none of them nearly this heavy. They've ranged in magnitude from 2.6 to 3.1.

[John Height]

I don't believe it until I see it officially from Stacy.

[Kenny Olson]

You know why she didn't respond and tell us about that. And I'm going to give away a little bit of her personal life and I don't care. She was on a tour of Muscle Shoulder Sound yesterday.

[Joe Sucier]

She's in the area, for Pete's sake.

[Kenny Olson]

Muscle Shoals sound right. Who gives a rat's ass about anything when you're hanging out there?

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Does she ever home? That's all they do is go on trips.

[Kenny Olson]

She's retired.

[Joe Sucier]

She's retired, John. Thank you.

[John]

You're welcome.

[Joe Sucier]

If you go to Ecofund Motorsports today, there's two locations. Forest Lake on Highway 97, immediately west of 34 or down in Burnsville on the service road of life. Either go there today, tomorrow or Saturday. You could be riding Sunday. A new electric bike when it's going to be 60 degrees. The snow is off the streets, the ice is off the streets. And right now electric bikes are on sale starting at 899400 electric bikes in stock. Over 130 motorcycles on display. Display including Moto Guzzi V7s on preseason sales starting at 71. 99. I'm thinking I got it in me to have one more bike.

[John Height]

I think you should purchase a bike so they can bring it to port elsewhere than St. Paul.

[Joe Sucier]

You want to get something for the water? Ecofun Motorsport says jet skis and Waverunners. You buy one, you get a fifteen hundred dollar trailer to go with it. I've seen the trailers. They're wonderful. These seasonal offers will come and go quickly, which makes right now the prime time to visit Ecofund Motorsports in Forest Lake in Burnsville to take advantage of the savings. It's a great website too. In fact, it's a dangerous website because when you're on it, you're picking out 10 things you need. Ecofunmotorsports.com Tom.

[Chris Reivers]

Here's a man who spends hours in

[Joe Sucier]

hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life. Joe Su.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, Jimmy. Yes. What are your favorite snacks?

[John Height]

I like my nuts.

[Chris Reivers]

What's your favorite kind of. We are nuts.

[Joe Sucier]

The hot nuts.

[Chris Reivers]

How about dill pickle?

[John Height]

I like the spicy ones with the wasabi because I like to pretend that I know Japanese.

[Joe Sucier]

And I say wasabi.

[John Height]

That means hot.

[Chris Reivers]

I like my nuts hot. Well, Jimmy, you should go. Do you go to Fraterloni's?

[John Height]

If Vogel's was still around?

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, they'd have been a prime candidate.

[Joe Sucier]

Mr. Vogel, do you sell the we are Nuts brand?

[Chris Reivers]

Well, they don't sell them. Are they still around? Are they still around? Yes. No, they're long, long closed. Okay, go to Fratelloni's Hardware and garden stores, Mac's Hardware, talk to Jimmy. Go to Kowalski's Market, Lunson Barley's Cub Foods County Market and get the spicy ones. But also 700 different quick trip locations and Cockburn's. By the way, I forgot to mention they are the official homes of wearenuts and wearenutsmn.com. but you know what? You can also order online on the website and if you go to the website, see every single different wonderful snack that they have to offer. Like I mentioned, the original toffee peanuts are pretty tough to beat, but the cherry trail mix is. Can I order it on my Commodore 64?

[John]

Yes, you can.

[Chris Reivers]

That's my computer. If it has Internet access, Mr. Vogel, you can do it there anyway. Yeah, we are [e-mail] and let them know that you heard about him on the Garage Logic podcast.

[Joe Sucier]

You know I don't want any kids to get hurt. Save all the children. But I am hoping.

[John Height]

Are you giving us this disclaimer?

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, this disclaimer.

[Joe Sucier]

However, the world's largest acidic geyser is erupting in Yellowstone. After years of silence, it's the acidic part that gets me. I wouldn't worry if it was just a geyser. This is the acidic geyser.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Sucier]

I don't like that. And it's stirring. It's called the echinace. Echinus Echinace geyser. Located in North Geyser Basin at yellowstone. It's around 660ft across. During the 70s, she would erupt up to 90 minutes at a time, blasting hot, acidic water high in the air.

[John Height]

I'm looking at a picture of it

[Joe Sucier]

right now, but now it's back and it's erupting again. There was only one eruption recorded in 2018, one in 2019 and two in 2020. Then activity suddenly stopped. And now, of course, the fear is that this is some indication of the big one, which I'm really hoping for. Again, I don't want. I want all the children taken somewhere and protected, but I want a boulder the size of a Buick to start landing on me. Let's go. Let's just end this.

[Chris Reivers]

The odd thing is, call it a day.

[Joe Sucier]

Let's just end this.

[John Height]

That's in Yellowstone, right as I'm doing my research.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah.

[John Height]

So that's the one out west. That's the acidic geyser. But if you are in New York, you have to be very worried about the husk Hasidic geyser that spews religion.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah, that was a long way for that.

[John Height]

The Hasidic geyser.

[Chris Reivers]

What do I drink when I'm looking at the Hasidic Hebrew light?

[John Height]

No Israelite.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you.

[Joe Sucier]

Let me just tell you something right now. This is stirring the conversation that is this a sign of more impending doom? And of course, no one knows that, but I'm rooting for it. I'm just, what the hell? Why not?

[John Height]

What does that mean?

[Joe Sucier]

If we could take all the children and vulnerable people out of the state of Minnesota. I wish all the debris would just collapse, fall on Minnesota. Just end Minnesota. The kids are gone. The kids are safe.

[Chris Reivers]

Do you have an age requirement? You know, 16 and under. Is that what you mean by kids or.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, selfishly, I'd make it 24 and under. Okay, all right, 24 and under.

[Chris Reivers]

Gabe, you make the cut.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah. And then just take out. Take us out. Because this state we're ready. Doesn't deserve to exist in the first place.

[John]

So.

[John Height]

So. But what does it do? It's just acid.

[Joe Sucier]

It's like orange juice or something. I don't know.

[John]

It's similar to vinegar or lemon juice, I'm reading.

[John Height]

But it's not. It's not going to burn. I mean, physically acid.

[Chris Reivers]

So it's. It's almost like apple cider vinegar, which. That guy scored it on. Ilhan Omar. And that story magically just disappeared.

[John Height]

Yeah. Where's that one?

[Joe Sucier]

I wonder Whatever happened to that guy.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, I'm shocked that we haven't learned more about it.

[Mike]

Mary Moriarty.

[John Height]

Dismissed.

[Chris Reivers]

It's almost like it wasn't staged at all.

[John]

He got charged.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, did he, John? Where is it?

[John]

He was charged the next day and we were.

[Joe Sucier]

Is he, John?

[Chris Reivers]

We were outraged for about five minutes because of that whole story.

[Joe Sucier]

I wonder what he was paid for that.

[Chris Reivers]

A lot of money. We do have a statement from your president, by the way. President Donald J. Trump a couple of minutes ago said, I am pleased to announce that the highly respected United States Senator from the great state of Oklahoma, Mark Wayne Mullen, will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security effective March 31, 2026. The current Secretary, Kristi Noem, who has served us well and has had numerous and spectacular results. Results especially on the border.

[Joe Sucier]

Do you thank her for her service, if you know what I mean.

[Chris Reivers]

We'll be moving to be the special envoy for the Shield of the Americans, our new security initiative in the Western Hemisphere. We are announcing on Saturday in Doral, Florida. I thank Christy for her service at Homeland.

[Joe Sucier]

She got a promotion.

[John]

We invented a job.

[Joe Sucier]

We invented a whole new bureaucracy for.

[Chris Reivers]

I got new.

[Joe Sucier]

Get another plane.

[Chris Reivers]

I've got news for Alpha. She can have any job she wants.

[Joe Sucier]

Well, you know what? You're over the hump on that one. She is so no go zone that it's unbelievable.

[Chris Reivers]

Kind of makes it more intriguing, doesn't it, when she's no go?

[Joe Sucier]

You know, that poor woman who set herself on fire. That's no go zone, you guys.

[Kenny Olson]

You realize you don't even have a chance with your own wives, right?

[John]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

So why are you even speculating?

[John]

Right?

[Chris Reivers]

I mean, we can shut on at home.

[Joe Sucier]

Yeah, yeah, okay.

[John Height]

You know,

[Joe Sucier]

only I wasn't interested anyway, man. Only because they come to us.

[Chris Reivers]

Kenny's right.

[Joe Sucier]

Only because they come to us. All the way from Penguin Tasmania. From the traveling lineman. It was on this day, Joe.

[Chris Reivers]

Today is March 5th in 1814.

[Joe Sucier]

Norman W. Kitson was born in Sorrel Canada. When he arrived in Minnesota in 18, Kitson made money by developing trade between St. Paul and the Red river and served as a legislator and as mayor of St. Paul. Late in life, he built a mansion in St. Paul on a trail that led to town. To accommodate those accustomed to following the trail, Kitson left his front and back doors open for folks to pass through. The Cathedral of St. Paul is built on that site.

[Chris Reivers]

Really?

[Joe Sucier]

On this day, March 5th, in 1852, farmers in Benton county formed the state's largest or first county agricultural society. Oliver H. Kelly, who later founded the national Grange, was one of 10 charter members. County Agricultural Society members shared information about stock, seeds, fruit, fruit and farming practices. On this day, March 5th in 1853, Minnesota's territorial legislator incorporated the St. Paul Mutual Insurance Company, forerunner of the insurance giant St. Paul Companies, the state's oldest business corporation. On this day in 1853, March 5th. This day, March 5th, 1853, seven counties were formed. To hell with them. On this day, March 5, in 2020, the first confirmed case of COVID 19 was reported in this state, I believe.

[Chris Reivers]

Wasn't it in Carver County?

[Joe Sucier]

I don't know. No items posted for this day in sports disappointment history.

[Chris Reivers]

We didn't lose.

[Joe Sucier]

Thank you. G. Ellers, it's been a rough day.

[John Height]

What happened to the St. Paul companies?

[Joe Sucier]

They're still around. Matt, thank you.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Mike]

It is opposite day. It is opposite day day when I say opposite. Yes, yesterday we had some positive news that boosted the Dow. Today a little bit of negative news that is sending the Dow down. And the Dow is down a lot more I think than it, than it should have been. I'll just take take an example you know, for, for this, this week in terms of being on opposite. Caterpillar was down big on, on Tuesday, up big on Wednesday and down big big today. Caterpillar is down 35 points as we speak, which is significant, but it gave up all of the gain from yesterday and then some and was sitting on a lower for this, for this week. Goldman Sachs, similar type of thing, different industry of course going from banking and investment banking with Goldman Sachs and an industrial company, Caterpillar, you know, different businesses altogether. What is the worry today? Oh, the worry today of course is the price of oil spiking on, on fears of oil shipping being contained in the, in the Straits of Hormuz and a report that Iran has attacked an oil tanker. Well that that could be but again, you know, the world, I'm not going to say the world is awash in oil, but yes, it's just that, it's just that the Straits of Hormuz is where a lot of oil is shipped from and any disruption in that shipment is seen as a negative. Add to that, add to that, as the price of oil moves up, the fear in the marketplace is that inflation is going to spike. And if inflation moves up with the price of oil, the likelihood of the Federal Reserve cutting interest rates right now goes away because as the price of oil moves up, that price of oil moves through the entire economic chain. So oil up typically inflation goes up. Oil down typically inflation comes, comes down and with the, with interest rates at least short term interest rates, rates where they are and the likelihood of interest rates staying where they are for a period of time, traders get, get a little bit concerned and they reprice other assets. Now we're going to switch, come back to Caterpillar being down as well as other industrial stocks also being down and then we'll throw in Walmart being down as well after Walmart had reported, you know, some pretty good numbers and even we'll say had a beat and raise quarter. A lot of companies recently, particularly the old economy stocks had been attracting a lot of money, money as money came out of software stocks. And it has gotten to a point where the software stocks who are currently in a bear market and trading at price to earnings multiples that are at or below the average stock in the s and P500, those stocks became, have become too cheap. And the old economy stocks which typically have lower price to earnings multiples now have price to earnings multiples not only greater than the S and P but much greater than the faster growing, faster growing new economy stocks have have without having their potential growth rate. So right now, today you're seeing or have been seeing a shift from old economy stocks which are down and new economy stocks are catching a bid and they are moving up. So while the Dow is down significantly, Nasdaq not, not so much. So it's just we'll say another rotation within the, within the market and certain stocks, the old industrial names plus the banks, banking stocks are down while some of the newer, newer companies are starting to move up. There's also another issue and that's what is the jobs number going to be tomorrow when it's announced. So it's just another we'll say sell first, ask questions later kind kind of moment. To me, you know, I have said, I'm not going to say necessarily stay the course but the focus that I have had add, you know, for my, for my clients and myself as my, my assets, my family's assets are invested in the same, same companies that my client assets are invested in. With our focus in, on companies involved in the Internet which would include artificial intelligence, leisure related businesses and real assets and keeping a small portion for trade trading with the allocation being keeping up to 30% in cash and the balance invested towards, towards growth. And that even with all the ups and downs in the marketplace has worked very well on a long term basis. Not day to day of course, but on a long term basis. That strategy has worked very well, including strategy that I've used to generate income using a systematic withdrawal rate and that, and that has worked especially well over when I say a significant period of time, well, I've been using that term since 1980 and I'll say the long, longest living client using that systematic withdrawal strategy has done exceptionally well, you know, from 1990 until today. So yes, there's going to be a lot of, a lot of volatility going on that is not going to stop, especially this year. So maintain that asset allocation model take advantage of some of these pullbacks so that you can acquire some, we'll say high priced talent at bargain prices.

[Chris Reivers]

Excellent advice as always Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat and the extra extended availability today. I appreciate that as well. Have a fantastic rest of your day and we will talk to you again tomorrow.

[Mike]

Look forward to it.

[Bill Glahn]

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