BESTOF GL: New featured Star Tribune columnist Pat Garofalo in studio for the mayor today

Summary

GARAGE LOGIC PODCAST – BEST OF GL: Pat Garofalo Guest Hosts for the Mayor

Episode Summary | July 2, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this “Best Of” Garage Logic episode, Pat Garofalo, president of the Minnesota Grocers Association and former state legislator, sits in as guest host for Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”). Joined by the regular Garage Logic crew—Chris Reuvers, Kenny Olson, John Heidt ("the newsroom"), and Rookie—the group offers their signature blend of local politics, current events, sports, and classic Garage Logic banter. Major themes include Minnesota political dynamics, the state of urban life in Minneapolis, the challenges of polarized politics, and societal issues ranging from socialism to American identity. The conversation is laced with dry humor, storytelling, and musings on common sense.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Garage Logic Lair & Podcast Kickoff

• Pat Garofalo opens with playful commentary about the "secret underground lair" and retro turquoise bathrooms, setting a nostalgic and irreverent tone.
  • Quote: "Turquoise bathrooms...underrated. They actually look really nice.” – Pat Garofalo (02:35)
• Disclosure that Joe Soucheray is just taking a few days off to prep for July 4th fireworks; speculation on his return.

2. Minneapolis Local News & Observations

• Mocking city priorities: new policies for dog parks (leashing rules to avoid disrespecting the dead) and the potential legalization of bath houses.
  • “If there's one thing I'm hearing about turning Minneapolis around, it's...bath houses.” – Pat (04:18)
  • Segue into comparing recent Dodgers/Twins games—juxtaposing big-market/little-market disparities in baseball payrolls ([04:38]).
• Reflections on the marked decline in downtown Minneapolis post-COVID (foot traffic, vibrancy, fewer workers) and modern urban struggles ([05:13-05:56]).
• Irrigation at Target Field and the city's rainwater capture—a tongue-in-cheek search for civic optimism ([06:14]).

3. Minnesota Political Landscape & Voter Mood

Pat Garofalo’s Star Tribune Column

• Discusses his own Star Tribune op-ed: “Minnesota’s Quiet Fury: Low approval ratings for President Trump and Governor Walz could cause problems for both Republicans and Democrats in the election.”
  • Quote: “What that means is...four of them are ‘always Republican’, four are ‘always DFL’, and there’s two out of ten who are just pissed off at both.” – Pat (09:40)
• Noting large numbers of angry, dissatisfied moderates with neither party fully representing them.
• The dangers of voter outrage, emphasizing it “isn’t a precision weapon...more like a car bomb.” (10:21)
• Personal reflections on his family: traditional Democrats who now feel alienated as costs rise without quality-of-life benefits.
  • “They’re at the point now where they’ve paid more in property taxes than their mortgage.”—Pat (11:56)

On Political Polarization

• Both major parties suffering from activist-driven extremism—“MAGA” and Democratic Socialists (DSA) supplant moderates during low-turnout primaries.
  • “The fringes are able to dominate them. And that’s what’s going on right now.” – Pat (13:25)
• Importance of the August 11 primary and the expectation that if “normal people” (adults) don’t vote, the extreme wings will dominate Minnesota’s ballot ([13:43], [34:21]).

4. Socialism, Communism, and Pragmatism

• Deep-dive into global socialism: Scandinavian vs. authoritarian models—“The shit doesn’t work.” (15:20)
• The Korean peninsula as a stark illustration: North Korea's communism has failed; South Korea’s free market has thrived.
  • “It just doesn’t work...it’s appealing to the young generation because it’s simple.” – Pat (16:08)
• Shared story of interviewing a North Korean defector and the challenge of acculturation after escape ([16:13]).

5. American Identity & Gratitude

• Recognition that, “We live in the greatest country on Earth. Can we do better? Yes. But there’s a reason why more people want to come to America...” – Pat (17:44)
• Discussion of America’s paradoxes: poverty vs. abundance (the “fat poor” joke), achievements of the founders, and the structure of government designed to avoid tyranny.
  • “Our poor people are super fat. The only country I know where that’s the case.”—Pat (18:19)
• Quote: “If you got a problem, yo, I’ll solve it.” – Reuvers, referencing Vanilla Ice (19:06)

6. The "ADULT" Movement

• Pat’s satirical proposal for a fifth American political “party”—ADULT (Americans Done with Underperforming Legislative Theatrics).
  • Intended as a “certification” for candidates/behaviors (e.g. not spending campaign funds on strippers = “adult certified”).
  • “That’s my club and certification...I think Czar is more in line than President.” – Pat (28:49)
• Highlights complexity and overlap between MAGA/conservative and DSA/progressive/establishment Democrats ([30:07-30:54]).
• Arguing that government works best when forced to compromise; one-party rule leads to “crazy stuff” regardless of party ([31:37], 32:35, 33:43).

7. The Case for Divided Government

• Strong case that divided government is the last defense for pragmatic, sensible policy:
  • “Until [the parties] calm down, the only way you’re going to get adulthood and sensible policy is...divided government.” – Pat (33:37)
• Fear of "whiplash" politics—a four-year cycle of all-or-nothing swings ([38:11-39:41]).
• Direct appeal to listeners: “You should vote August 11th...find good candidates...vote for adults.” (40:25)

8. Minnesota Policy, Economy, and Grant Fraud

• Critique of recent Minnesota legislative direction (emulating “hard-left” California/NY/Illinois) and likely negative demographic trends ([34:38]).
• Discussion of the Promise Act Grant Program for small businesses in disadvantaged communities, raising red flags over potential fraud regarding a high concentration of grants to metro-area sole proprietors, especially within the Somali community.
  • “This is a pretty easy one, though. Give us permission to verify the taxes you submitted for this grant match what you filed with the state.” – Pat (55:16)
• Acknowledges both legitimate recipients and concerns for oversight ([57:02]).

9. Community Engagement and Listener Encouragement

• Several digressions into local business plugs (coffee, custom garage coatings), and a spirited discussion of how everyday Minnesotans can impact the process simply by voting ([40:25-42:10]).
• Light-hearted commutation of criminal sentences for illegal fireworks as a parting note (57:18).

10. Sports Chatter: Timberwolves & Twins

• News: Timberwolves acquire LaMelo Ball, trading Nas Reed and multiple picks ([62:13] forward).
• Lively, irreverent venting about Byron Buxton’s performance and broader sports frustrations.

11. News Wrap-Up and Historical Tidbits

• Minneapolis news like the outcome of the Dominion lawsuit against MyPillow’s Mike Lindell ([65:48]).
• Offbeat stories: the hazards of metal grill brushes; a DWI excavator rampage in Detroit Lakes; “this day in history” segments discussing Purple Rain’s release, and Custer’s Last Stand ([85:12-86:33]).

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Memorable Quotes and Moments

• “Voter outrage is not a precision weapon. It’s more like a car bomb. There’s a lot of collateral damage.” — Pat Garofalo (10:21)
• “Americans Done with Underperforming Legislative Theatrics. Join ADULT today.” — Pat (28:12)
• “You can’t continue to replace people who work and make money with people that live off of the government.” — Chris Reuvers (35:47)
• “This shit doesn’t work....It’s appealing to the young generation because it’s simple.” — Pat, on socialism (15:20, 16:08)
• "The only country I know of where our poor people are super fat." — Pat (18:19)
• “Big government’s going to cause more problems than solutions. If you want to work on your own merits...you want to achieve excellence…” — Pat (18:40)
• “If normal people stay home on August 11, you’re going to get Team Crazy winning on both sides.” — Pat (34:21)
• “Consult a true financial advisor before making any decisions, like Mr. Money Talk.” — Pat, on Bitcoin (52:06)
• “Until the parties calm down, the only way you’re going to get adulthood and sensible policy is...divided government.” — Pat (33:37)
• “The only country I know of where our poor people are super fat...that doesn’t mean it’s a sign of prosperity.” — Pat (18:19)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 02:35 | Pat Garofalo opens as guest host; humorous intro on Garage Logic’s lair | | 04:00–05:30 | Minneaplis dog park/bathhouse discussion and baseball comparisons | | 08:07 | Pat plugs his Star Tribune column on voter anger and low approval ratings | | 09:40 | Detailed polling discussion; Minnesota’s political disenchantment | | 13:25 | Activists dominating the primary process; rise of “fringe” candidates | | 15:20 – 16:08 | Socialist models, Korea comparison, critique of communism | | 17:44 – 19:06 | American exceptionalism, founders, and gratitude | | 28:12 | Introduction of “ADULT” social club/joke political party | | 31:47 – 32:35 | Compromise & checks-and-balances: the founders’ intent | | 33:37 | The argument for divided government as Minnesota’s best option | | 55:16 | Discussion of Promise Act Grant program fraud concerns | | 62:13 – 65:47 | Timberwolves/NBA mega-trade and Minnesota Twins venting | | 85:12 | “This day in history”: Purple Rain, Custer, Grandma’s Marathon |

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains Garage Logic’s signature mix of barroom banter, irreverent asides, and “common sense” Midwestern skepticism about government, trends, and society. Garofalo seamlessly blends sharp political observations with folksy humor; co-hosts keep the tone lively and self-deprecating, ensuring a friendly, conversational atmosphere.

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Perfect for:
Listeners who want a relatable, unfiltered look at Minnesota politics, civic life, and classic Garage Logic camaraderie—with special insight from a state political insider guest.

Call to action:
Vote August 11th, show up for the primaries, and—most of all—“join ADULT!”

Transcript

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[B]

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[C]

I do, Chris. Well, see, now I can't hear myself. How come?

[B]

Because your headphones have been turned down. But now we're good. Now we lost the echo.

[C]

I have no, John, I did not turn my headphones down. But anyway, let's move along here. 1934 is the record high of 98, and in the year 1957, at some point in the morning, as Joe likes to say, it was 46 degrees for our low.

[B]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[D]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the Krabby Coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Sushere. I am not Joe Suciore. My name is Patrick Grofalo, current president of the Minnesota Groceries association and former state legislator, guest hosting for Joe today from the secret underground lair of the garagelogic headquarters, the bunker. The bunker, where I will point out, folks, and this is one of the privileges of being able to guest host the show, ladies and gentlemen, is that you get to learn things like Here at the garagelogic underground lair, I've learned that bathrooms and sinks that are colored turquoise in the bathrooms. Those are underrated. They actually look really nice.

[E]

Do you feel clean once you've.

[B]

I do.

[E]

I feel lathered your hands.

[D]

I feel like. I feel like I have the benefit of modern amenities with a flashback to 19 fine 1950s wholesomeness. So I got that. So how are you guys doing today?

[B]

Great.

[D]

Guys are outstanding mood. How about a.

[E]

We're doing good. We should also full disclosure. The mayor is just taking a couple of extra days off, so he is well prepared for a comeback tour on possibly tomorrow or Monday. We'll find out.

[D]

He's prepping for the big fireworks show. I'm assuming he'll be hosting.

[E]

Huge task.

[D]

So we have a lot to talk about today. But most importantly, the best news is once again, the city of Minneapolis has their thumb on the pulse of exactly their elected officials have their thumb on the pulse of exactly what their residents need. I refer to two recent actions. One is they've decided that there's too many people using the dog park.

[E]

Right.

[D]

Hundreds of people. The deal is they can't be unleashed. Right. Isn't that the deal? Like dogs can still go in there, but if they're unleashed, they need to

[E]

remain leashed so they don't steal the spirit or the prayers of people that

[C]

have been laid to rest.

[D]

So they're working on that. Making progress. And then also it sounds like they're legalizing bath houses, which if there's one thing I'm hearing about what can we do to turn Minneapolis around? It is.

[B]

Well, right.

[E]

Are the two related somehow or what is what's going on?

[B]

I think that's the most. Or that was the biggest complaint from a lot of the Dodger fans leaving the Twins game last night is where's a good bath house I can go

[D]

either before or after the ball game sellout. By the way, did you notice that

[B]

it was their very first one?

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Dodger. A lot of Dodger caps.

[D]

Yes. So. So, yeah. Dodgers swept the Twins. Not to be unexpected, but $400 million payroll versus $110 million payroll. That's the most likely outcome. So I went to the game two nights ago. I went there Tuesday night. The game on Monday night.

[B]

One non competitive day was the one

[D]

I went to for you. So I got.

[B]

What did you observe around the city, though? Were things open? We had a lot of good crowds. Were things flourishing in downtown Minneapolis?

[D]

Well, I mean, so in fairness, it was raining cats and dogs.

[B]

True.

[D]

So the game wasn't even a. There were a lot of empty seats. I just think people didn't show up. But, you know, there's a lot of people that used to work in Minneapolis that don't work there. So during the day, to me, it's shocking. Like, I think about when I used to work there pre Covid and how much foot traffic there used to be.

[B]

Sure.

[D]

Just walking around, the energy. And that's, you know, no one's fault, but there's just a lot fewer people working there. And the infrastructure that was built up

[B]

in that city, the first three or four years of that ballpark being open downtown was fantastic. You know, the foot traffic, everything, the people leaving work for a matinee ball game on a Thursday or a Wednesday afternoon, it was spectacular.

[D]

My biggest crisis of the day was when I left. I accidentally took the exclusive 394 exit out of the ramp. You know, you have these dedicated lanes that go out of the ramp.

[E]

Yes, sure. Yep.

[D]

And I accidentally got into that one. And for those that don't know, maybe you live in the West Metro. You do know this 394 is under construction. So once I made that decision, that error, to go down the corkscrew of the parking ramp, there was no off ramp for me. I got onto 394 and I could not turn around until Golden Valley.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

There's no.

[D]

There's no option to get out of it. So I was screwed. So that was my stretch. Yeah. Yeah. So that was so good. Time was had by all. But no, like, you know, I still am amazed. Like, when I was there, it was just pouring cats and dogs. And they delayed the start of the game 25 minutes. And it reminded me that when we debated the Twin stadium way back in 05 06, the Twins had told us that they didn't really care about a retractable rough stadium because they were going to design the irrigation there to have it be that if it rained a half a foot of rain 15 minutes later, you'd be able to play on it. The irrigation is that good, and they capture the water. And it's true. You could just see massive volumes of water coming off the tarp onto the field. It was like a giant sponge that picked it up. So. So we got that going for us in Minneapolis.

[C]

We got.

[D]

We got good irrigation at the ballpark. We're making sure people can't let their dogs walk off leash in Minneapolis.

[B]

Think about that. By the way, anytime you use the drinking fountain at Target Field, I'm sure

[D]

It is filtered to the highest standards.

[E]

I think what they're doing with that excess rainwater is, doesn't it just filter right down to those new bath houses that we're gonna have? It's a natural scrub find, you know, some leaves or some grass in there.

[D]

We've come full circle. So the next item I have here is that in today's Minnesota Star Tribune in their Strip Voice section, there is an excellent, excellent article titled Minnesota's Quiet Fury. Low approval ratings for President Trump and Governor Walz could cause problems for both Republicans and Democrats in the election. Oh, you know what? It's written by a guy named Pat Garofalo.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Not a coincidence.

[E]

The man. What are the odds.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Shameless self promotion. So if listeners can go to the Star Tribune, if you got an account or maybe they have a certain number of free art.

[B]

What number is this for you?

[D]

What? Number Two.

[B]

Number two. All right.

[E]

Well, I'll tell you the truth. I did look at the, the headline and then I looked at the, the author and then I just, I said, it's all right. We're good. What's Marmaduke up to? What's Marmaduke up to?

[D]

Comics. No, I, I have not read the comment section yet. I would try. They say never read the comments, but I am sure that knowing that the Star Tribune readership list. I'm sure we're only, only. Are you serious? There's 90 comments. And I'm sure they are only thoughtful and reasonable comments. Again, I'm sure the actual readership is a more broader cross section of Minnesota,

[B]

but it's probably very similar to the email that we get when Joe goes on one of his rants.

[D]

No, it's fascinating.

[F]

You have to remember about comments. It doesn't matter which side they're on or how they're treating you. It's all about the engagement. And I would say 90 comments is good engagement. So you don't have to bother reading them. Just know that you won.

[D]

Yeah. I think. Wasn't it the famous NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt who said it doesn't matter if they cheer or if they boo, as long as when they hear your name, they make noise? Yeah, like you said something that. I think so.

[F]

Absolutely.

[D]

I guess we'll take that with a.

[F]

I would be more worried if you had zero comments. I would find that very upsetting.

[D]

And so what your astute listeners, our astute listeners will. Can glean from reading the article is that they did some poll, they released some polling last week, and Governor Walz's approval rating is at 39%, how President Trump is at 41%. So what that means is if you line up 10 voters right now, four of them are telling you, hey, there's nothing a Republican president can do that I'm going to disapprove of. And four of them are telling you, there's nothing a DFL governor can do that I disapprove of. And then there's the remaining two. Two out of 20 people who are like, we have had enough of these.

[E]

I wonder what Marmaduke is up to.

[D]

But, I mean, these are. These are the people that are going to decide elections. And one of the points I just put in the article is that, you know, people are pissed off. They really authentically are. And it's not just Republicans or just Democrats. And when people are angry, voter outrage is not a precision weapon. It does not behave like a sniper rifle and pick off individual actors. It's more like a car bomb. And when there's a car bomb, there's a lot of collateral damage. So we'll see what happens between now and November.

[E]

But I'm sorry, I'm going to interrupt you, but I'm not even sorry. I'm just going to do it. Where did you grow up?

[D]

Minnesota.

[E]

No, what city?

[D]

I mean, I was born in St. Paul, over by the fairgrounds, and we moved out to Lakeville when I was like.

[E]

Okay, and what were your mom. If you don't want to tell me, you don't have to. But what were your mom and dad's politics?

[D]

Oh, well, my mom and dad's politics were what I would call traditional Democrats. So working class Democrats, union, household.

[E]

Okay. You know, and I think you're gonna make my point. Where are they now?

[B]

What?

[E]

What are they?

[D]

Oh, I think they're part of the 20% that's pissed off at both.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

You know, I think they. They understand. They. They're both lifelong Minnesotans as well. And I would, you know, taking a risky endeavor here, speaking on behalf of my parents, that's a good way to get in trouble. But I think it's fair to say that, you know, they've always known as Minnesota as being a good place that treated them well. And sure, things cost a little more, but you get something in exchange for that. You get a higher quality of life, more amenities. And now what they're seeing is they're seeing increasing, higher costs. They're at the point in their life now where they've paid more in property taxes on their home than they paid in Their mortgage, you know.

[C]

Right.

[D]

And they're seeing a declining benefit and they're seeing the quality of life in Minnesota decay. And they're frustrated and they don't have specific policy.

[E]

So they're more common sense Democrats where they're not just whoever's on the DFL ticket, they must go for.

[D]

No, no. I mean, I would say, like, if I was to categorize them probably along the lines of like an Angie Craig Democrat, like a more moderate Democrat. Certainly they do not like the fringes of the far left or far right. They're not as conservative as I am.

[F]

But then, Pat, there's a piece in the Minneapolis Times last week that might disagree with that. The headlines say Americans keep voting for scandal prone candidates because they just don't want the other party to win.

[D]

Well, so what's happening is you've got a heart of activists and people with a lot of free time that are determining the Republicans and the Democrats that are on the general election ballot.

[E]

Sure.

[D]

So we saw this, we saw that in New York, just, you know. Was it two days ago?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Where you've got the dsa, which is, by the way, this is a problem. And I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat, what the Democrat socialists are doing is they're basically infecting the Democratic Party and they're replacing them. They can't build their own party, so they're stepping in to the Democratic Party and they're taking it over. And these contests, whether they're caucuses or primaries, very few people participate in them. So the extremes are able to dominate them. And that's what's going on right now. Kenny.

[G]

Yeah.

[D]

And so in Minnesota, it's gonna be fascinating because August 11th, that's the primary here. And are we gonna have more adults show up and vote or is it gonna be dominated by the mypillow types and the Democrat socialist types? And we're gonna get stuff.

[F]

Let me ask you something. And I'm asking. Cause I don't know, I'm not trying to put you on the spot. Is there ever been a case in global history where socialism has not turned into communism? Isn't communism the goal? Isn't that what Lenin said?

[D]

Well, I think that when you look at. Okay, first of all, this is where I get in trouble because I will have an open stream of consciousness here and people. So listen, I am not. Okay, I am not sympathizing with socialism. I don't support it.

[F]

But no, we're just here talking.

[D]

People will have Fun with this and go, well, what does socialism really mean? Good neighbors Isn't Social Security. Yeah, it's about being good neighbors. And isn't Social Security. Isn't that a form of socialism?

[F]

Sure, I've heard that.

[D]

Yeah. The difference is that there's a Northern European type of socialism that you get from Sweden, Norway, Finland, where, yeah, you pay high cost, there's a guaranteed safety net. But then there is a very strong societal contract that you are going to get up early, you are going to go to work, you're going to work for eight hours, and there's an expectation that you're not going to abuse the system. There's that brand of socialism and then there's like the socialism that comes from Central America or Cuba or perhaps portions of Southeast Asia. That's a different type of socialism, and that is that we're going to use the power of government to compel your behavior and take the fruits of your labor. And then you've got the Soviet Union disaster in Eastern Europe and stuff like that. But the short answer is this shit doesn't work.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Have you seen the photo of Korea at night? They show with no lights? Yeah, it's a map of Korea and it shows North Korea and South Korea. And let's remember these countries started in the same place, the 1950s. It was a giant crater right after the Korean War. One side went communism, that's North Korea. South side went free market economics and elections. And the South. I'm sure you're shocked to hear the South Korea is prosperous, one of the fastest growing economies in the last 50 years in the world, especially for its size. North Korea is a hermit kingdom. There's nothing there. So this, this. It just doesn't work. But it's a. You know what it is though, Kenny? It's appealing to the young generation because it's simple.

[F]

John, didn't we interview a gal who wrote a book about escaping from North Korea?

[C]

We did, yes.

[F]

Grim life she had living there and then getting out and finally making it to the United States and went through

[C]

hell to get out.

[D]

Well, have you guys heard that when. So when people flee North Korea and they escape into South Korea, what they do is in South Korea, they put them into transition camps.

[F]

Yeah, that's exactly what she did.

[D]

Yeah. Because when they leave North Korea, you can imagine. So imagine this world where it's scarcity, government control. If you just drop them into Seoul, South Korea, it's overwhelming. They can't handle it. So they have to explain that all the things they've been told their whole life, like, no, the world is not like this, you know, and whatnot. But it's.

[E]

Kim Jong un did not score an 18 on a round of golf.

[B]

Solid 18, win the US Open on Sunday.

[F]

I don't want to change the subject, but we've been kind of seeing that lately on social media with all the European soccer fans in the United States, and they're traveling through the United States going, holy crap, this is awesome.

[E]

Wait a minute.

[F]

Look at the size of this truck stop. Look at the size of this hamburger. Look at all the butter that he eat. No wonder they're fat.

[C]

I love it here.

[B]

Kenny, isn't it ranch dressing they're trying to hoard? Ranch dressing. Yeah.

[D]

You know, I know we're coming up on the nation's 250th anniversary here, and certainly we complain about things and we have fun, but let's remember, all of us, everyone listening to this, everyone here in the studio. We live in the greatest country on earth.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

This place is totally awesome. Can we do better? Yeah. But there's a reason why the United States of America is the world's number one free agent destination. There's a reason why more people want to come to the United States than any other country on planet Earth, and that is because it's still awesome.

[E]

I think Joe has said in the past, it's the number one country to live in poverty. If you're living in. If you have to live in poverty, America's the place to be. You're still somewhat, somewhat better off.

[F]

We call that off the grid.

[E]

Off the grid.

[D]

Let's just see how far out I can go out on this controversy branch here. But the great thing about America is it's the only country I know of where our poor people are super fat.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

It's the only country I know of where that's the case. Now. That doesn't mean it's a sign of prosperity.

[E]

Maybe that's a better translation than mine from Susan. We have good poor people.

[D]

Yeah. So it's. No, but it's. You know, it is. We're coming up on the 250th anniversary, and there's a lot of noise and a lot of division. But, you know, it is worth reminding you. Go back and, you know, we were founded by some pretty cool people. They didn't get everything right, but they were smart enough to understand that big government's going to cause more problems than solutions. And if you want to work on your own merits, you want to be successful, you want to achieve excellence.

[B]

I believe the great Vanilla Ice said, if you got a problem, you'll also solve it.

[D]

Yeah, but this was pretty awesome.

[E]

How did those forefathers, though, think 200 years ahead? You're right. They didn't get it all right, but they got so much of it right that everything in place said, we're not gonna have any kings. We're not gonna have any dictators because

[B]

we had a no kings protest.

[E]

That's absolutely.

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That's what the Mysterians are working to change right now.

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On that positive note, Chris, you got

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you have an acronym.

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Oh, I do. But I want to talk about that coffee first. I have to tell you, Kenny, that is a very good pitch. I've never been a coffee drinker. I'm naturally hyperactive, which you feed caffeine to a me I turned into like the Roadrunner, the cartoons. But what those, those coffee beans do, you know, like what country they're from or where they grow.

[F]

It's his own mix and blend. And then he roasts them right there with a convection roaster. The thing is, I don't mind mentioning other brands. And I'll just be honest. I was a Starbucks French roast guy for, I'm going to say, 20 years or more.

[B]

Long time snob.

[F]

I didn't think there was anything better. And I would defend them to the hipsters that don't like them. And I first I tried the French roast at Custom Roasting and thought, well, that's better. And then I tried this Boundary Waters blend. I don't think I'll ever drink French roast again. I'm gonna drink Boundary Waters till the day I die. It is so good. It's so smooth, but yet it's got a bit of a kick.

[D]

I've always liked, like, the smell of coffee, especially in the morning, but I think I'm gonna give that a Try next time I'm on. I'll let you know what I think about it.

[F]

They do have decaf, too, if you don't want to get, you know, juiced up.

[D]

Yeah. If you don't want to be. Yeah. So. All right, well, thanks for. I was talking with Chris earlier, and I've decided that we've discussed before about how there's two major political parties in the country, but in reality, there's four people. Tell you. There's the Republicans and the Democrats, but in reality, the Republicans have your traditional conservatives. And then you've got maga, which is a lot of other things. Bigger government's okay if it's helping my friends kind of a thing. And then on the Democrat side, you got your traditional Democrats, your adult Democrats who balance checkbooks and stuff. And then you got the dsa, the Democrat Socialists. And so those are the four different political parties. And I really feel like there should be a fifth political party, but I'm not really sure a political party would work. But I do think, like, a social club or some sort of, like, certification level would be good for a new group of Americans that I'm gonna call Americans Done with underperforming legislative theatrics, the acronym being adult. So there's behaviors that will be adult certified and not adult certified. So, for example, if you're running for the US Senate under no particular party, and in your previous campaign, you used your campaign funds to. On strippers. Ah, right. That would not be. You would not get the adult certification if you did that.

[B]

Is this somebody that may have gotten a 15% approval rating in the latest KSTP US survey?

[D]

You know, I'm just the guy, you know, who I feel sorry for. For those that don't know, I'm a very educated audience. I'm sure, you know, we're talking about Mr. Royce White, who is running for the US Senate this year.

[B]

By the way, that money was spent on food at the strip club.

[D]

Right. Sure. If you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you guys. Delinquent on his child support payments. Another way to not be adult certified. Again, adult being Americans Done with underperforming legislative theatrics. That's my club and certification.

[B]

Are you the president? You're the president.

[D]

No, I think Czar. I think that'd be more in line. President. I need a title of more significance. Yeah, significance and posture. But so now when you look at that, a guy like that. Not really. For those who don't know, we're talking about Royce White, the guy I feel bad for is Minnesota Twins first baseman Royce Lewis. The number of times that I have said Royce Lewis instead of Royce White just out of this poor guy.

[A]

What a bad.

[D]

Like any other state in the country, you could have the name Royce as your first name and it'd be totally fine. Right. Only in Minnesota is it like ew. A little bit.

[E]

Yes.

[F]

Such does that all the time. And we always know exactly who he's talking about, even though he gets the name wrong.

[E]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

So I feel kind of bad for that guy. It'd be great if he filmed a promo, you know, hi, I'm real slim.

[E]

I'm running for first base.

[F]

Yes.

[C]

I am not.

[D]

I am not delinquent on child support payments. I did not use my campaign funds on strippers and buy limo rides. So anyways, that's my, that's my little project now is I think I'm just going to start identifying candidates and behaviors as being adult certified or not adult certified.

[F]

Well, you said something interesting about the four political parties, but the one thing that came to mind when you said that is those parties, there is not a clear dividing line between, say, MAGA Republicans and traditional conservative. You know what I mean? They kind of intermesh in the middle. One group kind of shares each other, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[D]

And it's the same thing with the Democrats and the Democrats socialists. And what ends up happening, unfortunately, is that when one party gets told total control, what ends up happening, whether it's the Republicans or the Democrats, the fringe political actors end up taking control. Because when one party has total control, they want to pass their legislative agenda without needing the other party's votes. And it's the fringes. And we saw this in Minnesota during the last trifecta.

[F]

Right.

[D]

I mean, what happened? Like the left ball, gravity isn't real, the earth is flat. Math doesn't matter. Wing of the Democratic Party just hijack things. And unfortunately you see this in states where Republicans have gotten total control. It's the exact same thing on the far right.

[F]

What comes to mind for me is the last session, I think it was the MAGA Republicans were mad at Lisa Damith because she had the gall to negotiate a budget with the Democrats. And I sorry to my friends, you're on my side of the aisle, but that's how government is supposed to work. Somebody's gotta leave the table unhappy.

[E]

Right?

[D]

Well, that's what you look back at the 250 year history of this country. Let's remember this country was founded on compromise. The Great compromise, I would call it

[F]

angry compromise, but yeah, compromise it was, right?

[D]

I mean, the entire purpose of our system of government, the entire basis of it was checks and balances. So that the government, remember our founders, had this intense fear of government and royalty and monarchy and even the church, Right. What they wanted was separation of powers. So anytime the government was doing anything, it was basically there was broad based consensus for it. They did not want 51% of the country jamming things down the throats of the other 49%. So you had all these insulators to protect the institutions in our country from the flames of passion in public opinion and manipulation. It turned out it was a pretty good system of government and it's worked out pretty well.

[F]

When Minnesota, when the Democrats had both the House and Senate, there was a lot of jamming going on for those few years, wasn't there? A lot of jamming.

[D]

Well, and again, in fairness, I'm a former Republican legislator, so I have a perspective on it. But I can point to instances in other states where Republicans have had total control and the same shit happens. The problem today is there are just too many crazy people in both the Democratic and Republican parties. Until they calm down, the only way you're gonna get adulthood. And like pragmatism and sensible policy is you need divided government. It's right until the parties calm down, that's the only option. So August 11, we were talking before, that's when the primary is, you know, the Democrats are gonna choose. They got a very competitive Senate race between Peggy Flanagan, who's more the DSA type, and Angie Craig, who's the more adult, acknowledges things like, I don't know, we should have police crazy shit.

[B]

I know outrageous things like that.

[F]

Outrageous.

[D]

So you got that. And then on the Republican side, the Senate, you got Tafoya, the endorsed candidate, and crazy Royce. And then in the governor's race, you got Damas, the endorsed cand, and then my pillow. And so if normal people stay home on August 11th and don't vote, we know what's going to happen. You're going to get Team crazy winning on both sides on the ballot. If the adults show up and turnout is higher than we have, we can move Minnesota towards some reasonableness and pragmatism. But at the end of the day, we just, we have to have divided government or else things are going to get interesting in a bad way.

[B]

Well, and that's what I think most people get lost on in this state, because you said this, I think the last time that you were on this show, I don't think people realize that just how important this coming November or if you'd like to vote early now through November is going to be for the state of Minnesota.

[D]

Right. Well, Minnesota's right. If you look at the policies that were enacted in 23 and 24, what they did was they essentially took all the crazy stuff that has passed in California, New York, Illinois and Oregon and they, they passed it all in two years. Now, I'm summarizing here, okay? So it's not like everything they did was nuts. They did do some good things, but they took that very hard left, far left agenda and they rammed it through in two years. So right now, Minnesota is on the early pathway of where California, Oregon, Illinois and New York already are. And what's happening in those states? Well, they're all gonna lose electoral votes in the next census in 2030, so is Minnesota. We're going to lose an electoral vote. Their economies are stagnating. They're losing people, they're losing wealth, there's less economic activity, there's more money going into the places of nonprofit spending, going into more government centric economies. And economic activity is just fleeing these locations in Minnesota. Again. It's not like everything sucks everywhere in Minnesota, but we are on the front end of a dangerous curve that's multiplying.

[B]

You can't continue to replace people who work and make money with people that live off of the government.

[D]

No, it's just unsustainable.

[B]

You can't do that.

[F]

So speaking if you were a political consultant for both sides of the aisle, how would you bring these parties together? How would you bring the Democrats together and the Republicans? Is that even a possibility at this point?

[D]

So the first thing that has to happen is voters need to step up and understand that they're responsible for this. And I'm talking about you, you voters. I'm not blaming anybody else. The voters need to understand that if one party is in total control, I don't care if it's Republicans or Democrats, if they're just negotiating with themselves, you're gonna get crazy stuff to happen. That's just the reality. So you gotta send, you gotta split your ticket. You gotta vote Republican and Democrat, you gotta do your research and find good candidates. Cause left to their own devices, these political parties right now, it doesn't mean it's always gonna be this way. But right now, these parties, when they get total control, the mindset is we've got the votes, we're going to jam everything through. And especially at the statewide level where you don't have a filibuster, you don't have that natural separation of powers and checks and balances at the statewide level. At the federal level at least you got the filibuster. So there's some limitations on that. In Minnesota, that's the end. All be all is you have to have divided government. This is kind of the, this is kind of the last chance for Minnesota to preserve our heritage of being a state where everyone works together and we're rolling the boat in the same direction. If we end up with one party in total control, that's gonna kinda seal our fate for a while. And it really is a big deal. But it starts August 11th with when people are voting in these primaries. Generally most Minnesotans just don't vote in the primaries. Right?

[F]

You don't think. Pat, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I can't get this out of my mind. Wouldn't the voting be more water in a bathtub? Like say the Republicans do gain control and they do the jamming or I should say we do the jamming and I don't think. I wouldn't mind that. But isn't the tide going to turn on them next election and it'll just go the other way and everything they accomplished will become undone. Well, unburdened by. What was this?

[B]

Son of a.

[F]

Sorry. Sorry. This is what's right, Chris.

[D]

That's what's happening at the federal level.

[C]

Right?

[D]

We are, we are now. We are on this.

[G]

4.

[D]

It used to be an eight year cycle. Now a four year cycle where one party gets total control. They borrow a bunch of money, they spend a bunch of money, they don't respond to people's priorities and concerns, they get thrown out. The other party is in total control four years later. And then what do they do? They borrow a bunch of money and they spend a bunch of money. They don't address priorities and they get thrown out. So think about this. In 2017, Trump had a Republican House and a Republican Senate Senate. In 2021, Biden had a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate. And then in 2025, Republicans again got Republican House, Republican Senate. They have total control. And what happens is when they get total control, they're not calibrating a center right or center left sustaining agenda. Instead they want to keep their coalition together. They're appealing to the farthest fringes and as much and you can highlight all the crazy stuff going on in the Republican Party or the Democr Party until you acknowledge it's happening to both sides. You're kind of missing the boat, right? So what you want is you want divided government. So these guys, it forces them to work together. Now, the fringe left, the socialists and the fringe right, mega types, they're not gonna like it and they're gonna complain about any compromise. Good, good.

[A]

Great.

[B]

That's the point.

[D]

I love it.

[F]

I love it. Right?

[D]

This is how you get pragmatism. This is how you get common sense being enacted. And we're not going in this whipsaw, a crazy left, crazy right, which by the way, is all happening under an umbrella where the government is borrowing $2 trillion a year. Right. They need to fix that. And if they're not going to fix it, the bond market's going to fix it for them. So that's what I think. But it all starts with everyone on an individual basis. You don't have to go march in parades, you don't have to go knock on doors or even run for office. But you should vote August 11th. If you're a Democrat, a Republican or an Independent, you got a responsibility to show up and vote for adults again. And I don't. Americans done with underperforming legislative theatrics.

[B]

So I wanted to follow up with that. So is that party akin to.

[F]

Mr. McMillan, would you like 30 seconds more?

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Allow me to introduce myself. I represent the rent is too damn

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high Party Rent is too damn happy.

[D]

No, it's a little different. That's a little bit different, Pat.

[F]

You know what it reminds me of Brett Weinstein's Unity20 movement that he had, where he tried to bring just good candidates together from both sides of the aisle to form one party. And it was a lot of fun talking about it, but boy, it fell flat on its face. And I wouldn't be surprised if you've never heard of it.

[D]

No, I mean, I think what you said it earlier, that people go into the ballot box and how many people voted for Trump not because they were in favor of him, they just looked at Vice President Harris and said, this, this is. I don't want this. In fairness, how many people got in the ballot box and voted for Harris because they looked at Trump and said, I just don't, I'm voting against that. Like they're, you know, the Democrats see the dangers of MAGA and the Republicans see the dangers of, you know, left wing socialists.

[B]

And on top of that, how many people in 2020 didn't even cast a vote and put it in for Biden?

[F]

Okay, that's funny. You know, as you know, listening to Such he said, I didn't have a candidate, I didn't have a horse in that race. And we've gone around and around and I fought with him off the air and on the air that, well, you made the wrong choice by not picking one. But, you know, at the end of the day, you got to live with yourself.

[D]

But I feel like the answer really is that you gotta have divided government because then what happens is those extremists on the left and the right get marginalized and then you can just go along doing what you want in your life and not living in fear of what your government's gonna do next to you. Isn't that right?

[B]

That's all I want.

[F]

That's all I want.

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Hey, Kenny. I am great, thank you, Mike.

[F]

I want to quote my grandpa, a world famous comedian. What the hell is going on? Yeah, that's funny, isn't it? That's. Every time he did that, I said, oh, that's, that's hilarious, grandpa. That's good stuff.

[H]

Well, hey, you know what, though? We've heard that a few times over the last couple of days, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got, we got hit by hail on Friday and shockingly like five, a little after five during rush hour. So let's just say that the phones have been jumping and people have been coming through the door and, and wanting to get hail fixed.

[F]

Pdr. Did I get that right?

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You did painless dent repair, which is

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some kind of bodywork voodoo. I still don't understand how it works, but I know it works.

[H]

It does work. And you know, Kenny, we've gotten a lot of calls and a lot of people and I think GL ers, if you experienced hail or you got hail, you know, unless you're going to pay for it yourself out of pocket, you know, come and see us and whatnot. But your first call should be to your insurance company because you pay an insurance premium for things like this to happen and this is an act of nature and it's not your fault. So it shouldn't really affect your rates and you should have little or no deductible because it as a comprehensive loss depending on your insurance policy. But yeah, we have got some paintless dent repair technicians in the fold now, so we have a couple extra staff that are on board that are going to be. Are well versed in hail repair. And the cool thing about the guys that we hired is their quality mine. And we're going to stand behind the work that we do and we will take care of any problems that arise with the insurance company, which Kenny, shockingly, we've already gotten our first couple of estimates in from the insurance companies and they are photo estimates. So of course folks took photos outside with their cameras and sent them to the insurance company. And, and I think we've seen some 800-900-2000 estimates come. Final bills will probably be, you know, 6, 7, $8000, depending on how much,

[G]

how severe the hail was.

[H]

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[F]

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[H]

Hail you Kenny.

[F]

And hail you sir.

[H]

All right buddy, take care.

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This guy wears many hats, cats. Just not indoors.

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Thank you very much. A couple of things here I'll leave you guys with. In addition, remember, it's Americans done with underperforming legislative theater. Join adult today. I don't have a number for you but 59,628. That is what Bitcoin has plummeted to now.

[G]

Really?

[D]

Yes. If you are in the business of trying to find an investment that can cause you to lose over half your money in eight months, then bitcoin is for you. Now am I, am I offending anyone in the group here today when I, when I mock bitcoin?

[B]

One of us sold when she was high.

[E]

If you roll the dice with bitcoin, you deserve it, Right?

[B]

In fact, isn't that the main reason why the Brady Giselle relationship deteriorated? And I'm not joking, I believe, because he lost a ton of money with that Sam Brinkman character.

[D]

Well, so first of all, you know she was worth way more than him. Right?

[B]

Right. But he was the one that talked her into investing.

[C]

Is that true?

[B]

I'm not joking. I read that.

[D]

I just thought that it was because she was banging the jiu jitsu instructor or whatever.

[F]

I thought that.

[D]

I didn't, I didn't. I think the bitcoin was secondary to that. Or maybe, Maybe it was his bitcoin.

[E]

Slow down the easy.

[D]

No, I. I have to tell you, I. I know it's not. I'm sure some of the listeners, they have bitcoin and they're not happy about it, but I love watching this stuff take a dump. I love it. You know why I love accountability? It's like a natural law of the universe, but it's a game being played

[B]

where no one really knows the rules. That's probably why you're against it, right?

[D]

Well, because it has no value.

[E]

Right? Okay.

[D]

It has no. So besides being the world's reserve currency for illicit and criminal activity, it doesn't do anything.

[B]

But there are a number of people who have made significant profit from it.

[D]

Sure, sure. And there's a lot.

[B]

I'm not one of them, but there are people.

[D]

And again, it reminds me of the tulip craze when that happened over. Do you know about the tulip craze? That's it. Next time I'm on, we'll talk about the tulip craze involves the Netherlands. Centuries ago, when tulips became a form of currency and people were these tulips became people invested in them and tulips became very profitable. And then one day someone just woke up and said, just flowers. And everyone lost their ass. Google the tulip craze. The risk you take, that's mania. But no. So I like accountability. And bitcoin has no intrinsic value. So watching it lose over. I think it's funny. I think it's hilarious. That's what happened. A fool and their money are soon departed. I do feel sorry for people that though, who believe the hucksters when they

[B]

told them bitcoin was tulip Mania was a period during the Dutch golden age when contract prices for some bulbs of the recently introduced and fashionable tulip reached extraordinary high levels. The major acceleration started in 1634. And then dramatically collapsed in February of 1637. Yes, it was a hell of a three year run.

[D]

There's a behavior of a. It's mania. And for those of you that play craps, myself included included, you see mania at the craps table when a table's on a run. And so anyways, that's what I see bitcoin as. But as always consult a true financial advisor before making any decisions like Mr. Money Talk.

[E]

Oh, Josh Arnold.

[F]

Yes.

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Last thing I've got for you guys is we talked about this last time. Got to put that leg down. Can I just see those pasty legs? Gotta hide those. There is a program in the state of Minnesota called the Promise Act Grant program. We talked about this a little bit and the intent was, was again back in 2324 they passed some money to give small businesses that are in disadvantaged communities. And let me preface my comments by saying that I have not spoken with anyone at the Department of Justice. I don't have any inside information. I'm just sharing information. Anyone listening to this program, you can go out and you can google the Promise act grant program. You can go to the state's website and you can see the recipients who receive money. They got grants of up to $50,000. They're actually going out for awarding a second round right now. Earlier this week I spoke with a friend and if she's listening, she doesn't need to worry. I'm not going to out her, but someone who works at the Department of Employment and Economic Development and they do a good job. They actually, of all the departments deed Department of Employment and Economic Development is one of the better ones. And I think part of it is that, that they can recognize when people are doing things they're not supposed to do. But I just want to highlight some statistics from this Provis act grant program that again, anyone can go to their website and you can look up the recipients of this. There were 927 awards that were given out in the first round of funding. And of that amount, 359 went to people who were filed as sole proprietors. And so this would be like you submit a tax form and you say, hey, I got a business and I need some money. And they say, okay. And they give you money. 82% of those sole proprietorships were in the metro area. 82%. And so if you're looking for fraud and problems, what you want to do is, you know, this is with artificial intelligence. It's never been easier to spot fraud. When you see these statistical Anomalies that go out there where you just see things that are unusual. You know, why would all the. Why would so many of the sole proprietorships applying for this, why would they be coming out of the Twin Cities versus statewide?

[F]

Well, we talked about this extensively on GL and Crabby and Joe got hyper focused on the names on that list in the Twin Cities and it seemed like it was all going to a certain demographic. And that being Somalians. I'll just say it.

[D]

Well, I mean, it's good. So again, I haven't talked to anybody there. I think you're going to be hearing more about this. I think there's.

[F]

How do we get Pat, how do we get people excited about this? You really have to study this and delve in it, into it to understand it. And then it's really hard to pinpoint fraud in the Promise Act.

[D]

This is a pretty easy one though.

[F]

Kenny, tell me why.

[D]

Tell me how the department or the authorizing entity could be like, hey, give us permission to verify that the taxes you submitted for this grant process program match what you filed with the state of Minnesota.

[F]

Okay, that's it.

[D]

We need you to verify that for us. Will you sign this, giving us that disclosure?

[F]

Will they do that?

[D]

Like will they sign it or will they ask for it?

[F]

Will they ask, will they ask for it and then will they provide it?

[D]

Well, I think first of all, if someone won't provide it, I think that is what we call a red flag.

[F]

Yes, it is.

[D]

Raises some attention. But I think, and again, I haven't spoken directly with anyone at the Department of Justice. I've talked with a friend, indeed who I've known a long time. I think that there's some problems here and I think we're going to be hearing more about this now. Maybe I'm wrong. We're only talking about $100 million program. So it's not really that much money dropping the bucket. But I think not a bad idea to look this program up, see the recipients and reach out to your local elected officials, asking them what they know about this, your state representatives, your state senators, you know, ask them like, hey, are you talking to the state of Minnesota? What are they doing about this? What's going on right now? They're out for a second round of funding right now. So what are they doing differently? But the huge number, a high disproportional amount of sole proprietorships that applied for money, There seems to be a lot of smoke. There seems to be a lot of program. I know a lot of issues with this. And I know Channel 5 has done some reporting on this. They found some individuals that they didn't even have businesses up and running. So stay tuned.

[F]

Let's see what they also found. People who actually used it and it helped their business. Minorities they found.

[C]

Sure.

[F]

I mean, there's no doubt both sides of the coin there.

[D]

I would hope that if you're gonna spend tens of millions of dollars, you should be able to find somebody who got some good from it.

[C]

Maybe.

[D]

Maybe I have unrealistic expectations, but you're a dreamer.

[B]

All right, you gotta head out.

[D]

I do.

[B]

Thank you for coming in today.

[D]

Hey, as always, it was great seeing you guys. And if I don't talk, have a great 250th anniversary celebrating Independence Day in this country. Next 4th of July, blow up lots of fireworks. I hereby commute any criminal sentence that the state of Minnesota may administer on you for using illegal fireworks.

[B]

Fantastic.

[F]

On July 5th.

[E]

I can still count to 10.

[B]

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[G]

All right.

[E]

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[B]

The Joe Shoot Show.

[C]

Easy for me to say.

[F]

So it occurred to me there Reavers?

[B]

Yes.

[F]

One why doesn't Installed Business Solutions pair up with Precision Garage Door?

[B]

Installed Building Solutions should pair up with Precision Garage Door.

[F]

Perfect match. Do both projects at the same time. If you're building or remodeling, this would be perfect. Get that garage door set up and sealed up. You can schedule a free on site new door estimate with Precision Garage Door designers. They have models for all of our budgets. But we're talking more than just a door here. Number one, a fancy new door is going to really increase the value and the look of your home. The curb appeal, as they say. It'll definitely save you money during the peak seasons. Better security. You can integrate these new garage door openers with your current home security system. And right now, Precision Garage Door has a special offer. Get up to $400 trade in credit for your old garage door when you purchase a new garage door. Basically, they're just giving you free money there. They also have a $79 safe and sound package which a 25 point safety inspection with performance adjustments, lubrication, conditioning, diagnostic reports, all of that. So you'll know that your garage door is working perfectly. You can schedule all of this online. Go to precisiondoormn.com or do it the old fashioned way. The way I do it. Pick up the phone [phone] to schedule your free on site new door estimate with Precision Garage Door. Hi John hi.

[C]

In News by the way, news brought to you by North American Banking Company In News let's start with sports. Big move by the Timberwolves. Lamelo Ball's been traded to the wolves in a blockbuster move that sends Nas Reed to the Charlotte Hornets. No,

[E]

I like Nas.

[C]

Yeah, but Lamelo will help as long as he stays healthy.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Also coming to Minnesota Hornets guard Josh Green along with Reed. The Wolves gave up. Now there'll be a quiz about this. Okay, guys, listen, tell me, tell me how this plays out. The Wolves gave up a slew of draft picks, including a 2033 unprotected first round pick.

[E]

Yep.

[C]

Three first round pick swaps in 2028, 29 and 2030. And three second round picks in 29, 32 and 33.

[E]

Okay, what does that mean?

[B]

That basically means they ain't going to have a draft pick for a long time.

[E]

Meaning we're good enough that we might go far in the playoffs the next year.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Selling our. Sold. Basically if.

[C]

If Charlotte. The trade picks the right Chris are. Yeah, they just trade positions. Right.

[B]

Basically Charlotte gets the higher pick of

[E]

whatever position they have Charlotte plays in the NBA.

[G]

Right?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Okay, got it. Lamello Ball has played six years with the Hornets after he was drafted third overall in the 2020 NBA Draft. He's averaged over 20 points a game for the past five seasons, has had a injury issues, although last year he was able to play through the whole season with no real issues.

[F]

Yeah, we need to talk more about sports. And I know I don't have any business talking about baseball, but Brian Buxton can go to hell.

[B]

Seriously, what are you mad at Byron for?

[F]

To use my roommate's words, I'm sick of being jolted by Buckson. How many times last year, Last night? I'll tell you two that I saw. Was he the last person up at bat with runners on base?

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

And he could have put us ahead.

[C]

Kenny, I think.

[F]

Hold on, John, I already prefaced this with I don't know what I'm talking about, but I've got to get this off my chest before you correct me. I think it was the seventh inning and it was the bottom of the ninth where we could.

[G]

What?

[F]

I'm so number one. That laid back thing where he's out the bat, you got to fix that. That's not working for me. And for God's sakes, just get a base hit. Do something.

[C]

The beauty.

[F]

I'm done with you.

[C]

Okay. Beauty of baseball, Kenny, is see if you bat.300, that's really good. So if you're successful three out of every 10 times, Kenny, that's really good. So. See, you can't be successful every time.

[F]

That's too complicated for me. What I saw last night was Brian Buxton losing The game for us.

[C]

Well, first of all, it's Byron. First of all, if you call him Brian once more. You keep saying Brian.

[F]

Yes, that's. That's a sign of disrespect.

[C]

He's having a wonderful season. He really is. I saw last night his stat. If you watch the game he's in the only the second person in Twins history to have 25 home runs before the All Star break. The first Harmon killed.

[F]

I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah, it was Harmon killer. Four or five times. Killer did.

[E]

Let's not compare him to Hart.

[F]

My fantasy is that I get to do play by. I play when he's at bat. Okay, well, here comes the stick.

[E]

Kind of a Mystery Science Theater 3000 deal where you.

[F]

No, I just want to sit there and calmly rip this guy while he's at bat. So you're gonna miss Big shock stuff like that.

[E]

Casually trots to first base after the bunt, John.

[C]

Jilted.

[F]

Jilted.

[C]

Jilted.

[D]

I just wanted to enter.

[B]

I have no opinion.

[E]

Oh, yeah, you haven't chimed in here, baseball boy.

[F]

I prefaced it by saying I don't know what the hell I'm talking.

[E]

I'm very like elevated town ball.

[F]

I'm very casual when it comes to

[C]

baseball in news boy. I wish Pat was able to stick around. Mike Lindell. We're going to talk about Mike for a minute here. He's the leading GOP candidate right now for Minnesota governor as. As we've pointed out. But he is no longer being sued by a major voting machines company over his 2020 conspiracy claims. Dominion Voting System, called Liberty Vote, sued Lindell for defamation back in 2021 after the MyPillow founder accused the company of rigging the 2020 presidential election. On Monday, the company and Lindell's attorneys failed to dis. Not failed. Filed to dismiss the case with prejudice, meaning it can't be refiled for the same purposes. This comes nine months after the company settled with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani for similar election rigging claims. Back in October, a company run by a former Republican elections official bought Dominion and changed changed the name to Liberty Vote Dominion. If you haven't heard, despite being a non traditional candidate, KSTP Survey USA Poll earlier this month found that Lindell is leading the GOP gubernatorial race as the primary election draws near. As you heard us talking about earlier that primary election August 11, his campaign also hasn't been without some other questions, as Lindell's giveaways may violate campaign finance laws. According to election experts however, no official finding of wrongdoing has been posted at this time or regarding the giveaways. As part of Votes Go, the Department of justice says it needs more time to return the car of Renee Good to her widow. According to court documents filed this week, Good was shot and killed by a U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement agent in January while inside her SUV on Portland Avenue in South Minneapolis. The shooting, as we know, sparked intense national debate, widespread local protests. The DOJ has asked a Minnesota judge for two more weeks to respond to the request for the suv. Good's widow filed the motion in April asking for her wife's SUV to be returned. Officials said they are looking to resolve the issue without any further court action. A Phoenix man is.

[B]

Can I say sorry, John?

[C]

Yeah. Yes, sir.

[B]

I don't mean to sound crass by saying this, but is that really something you'd want to keep? I mean, the. The vehicle I'm talking about.

[C]

Yeah. No, I know it.

[D]

Should I.

[C]

No idea. I don't know.

[F]

Maybe it's going to go on tour like Bonnie and Clark.

[E]

Full hole like a sponge.

[C]

I was thinking perhaps they wanted it to use it as part of the court case.

[G]

Oh.

[B]

Of a lawsuit.

[C]

But I could. I could be wrong.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I have no idea. Phoenix man is facing felony property damage and DWI charges after authorities say he drove an excavate excavator. Thank you. Excavator through part of Detroit Lakes and damaged several properties. 30 year old Alex Prescott Hansen is charged in Becker County District Court first degree property damage and misdemeanor DWI. It all happened June 21, according to the complaint. Detroit Lakes police responded after a report of damage at a hotel. Officers said Prescott Hansen appeared to be under the influence, admitted he tried to drive the excavator after attending a party at Zorbas earlier that day. According to the complaint, A Becker county deputy found the excavator near the reported damage. Investigators said it looked like the excavator had been moved from the front of Lakeside Railroad Restaurant before knocking down a new light pole and damaging a concrete sidewalk. Authorities said the excavator then moved east where it damaged an outside handrail system and destroyed a sailboat sculpture. The complaint says the excavator later damaged the awning at the Fairfield Hotel. Terry off several awnings and panels. 40 grand worth of damage done. Officers report Prescott Hansen had glossy, bloodshot and watery eyes, slurred speech and he, authorities said, had a breath test later after being arrested showing a blood alcohol concentration of 0.18 and now a warning. My wife warned me about this several years ago, so she's going to gloat if she hears this story. A Stillwater family sharing a warning with others after a close call involving a metal grill brush that sent a teenage boy to the hospital.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

A couple of days after Noah Walden ate a burger cooked on his family's grill, he started feeling discomfort. Had to be taken to the emergency room. Noah said, I started getting a lot of painful stomach aches. I just thought something wasn't passing by. Well, scans at the hospital revealed a bristle from the metal brush used to clean the grill grate broke off and he ate it. Noah says he'll be okay, but he now has a 6 inch incision on his belly where doctors had to remove a section of his bowels in March. The U.S. consumer. The U.S. consumer product safety Commission announced a recall in March. More than 10 million metal bristle grill brushes produced by Next Grill. The CPSC said Next Grill received nearly 70 reports of bristles detaching, including five incidents where people needed medical treatment. A month earlier, a similar issue prompted Weber to put out a voluntary recall on 3.2 million of its grill brushes. And yes, I did get rid of ours after my wife yelled, yeah, I

[F]

can't believe anybody is still using those things.

[C]

You know what I got now? Do you. Have you seen.

[F]

You've got one of those wood ones.

[E]

Those wood ones are great.

[C]

I have a big. A large thing where you. It's got.

[F]

So do I, John.

[C]

A sponge kind of thing on the end and you clip it in there. You get it wet. And while the grill is still hot, you run the sponge thing across and it steams everything off. It works great. Got a Costco.

[F]

Do you do it after you've been cooking?

[C]

Yes, after you've been cooking and everything comes off like that because of the steam.

[E]

Clean it for the next time.

[C]

Yep.

[F]

Oh, that's brilliant.

[C]

Yeah, it's wonderful. Costco, if you need one. Yeah. Why don't we take a break? Didn't know I was doing an ad there. Hey, Rook. I think I'm sending it to you to tell us some stuff.

[E]

Well, I've always learned that in radio you don't do two live endorsements back to back. Apparently after Johnny's done with his live ad here for Costco.

[F]

Why am I on the screen?

[B]

That's a great question.

[E]

It doesn't matter.

[C]

Ken.

[E]

Keep over your mouth. Ken say, you're a pest. Ken say Valor Pest Solutions.

[C]

He left.

[E]

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[B]

He's got in his ears. It's Joe suceret live from Garagelogic. It's Chris Reivers for Harmony Spirits at harmonyspirits.net, the official distillery here in Garagelogic. And guess what? It's now available for purchase online. That's right. Just head to harmonyspirits.net click the buy online tab and you can have your favorites sent right to your front door. It's never been easier to stock up on your go to bottles. You can get Harmony Spirits three different ways. Visit the Tap Room in Harmony, Minnesota. Gonna be another beautiful stretch of weather. So head on down there and say hi to Larry and Damon and the entire crew. You can continue to go into your local liquor store and ask for the Harmony brand by name. And right now you can order online from anywhere with just a few clicks. Doesn't matter what you're looking for. The rum, the bourbon, the whiskey, the vodka, the the gin. It's all there for you, Matthew.

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That's right. And if you go to the tasting room, by the way, get the BlackBerry lemonade and you can thank me later. It's wonderful and it's a perfect summertime drink. But like I mentioned, go to harmonyspirits.net, click the buy Online tab and make sure you mention you heard about them here on the Garage Logic podcast. John.

[C]

Thank you, Chris. In other news, at least 164 people have been killed, thousands more feared dead after two powerful earthquakes hit northern Venezuela last night, causing widespread destruction. Venezuela's acting President Delsey Rodriguez reported the updated death toll this morning. A U.S. geological Survey, which publishes data on natural disasters, warned there was a risk of more than 10,000 deaths from the 7.2 and 7.5 magnitude earthquakes. Federal Reserve's preferred inflation measure, the Personal Consumption Expenditures price index, rose 0.4 in May. According to the Bureau of Economic Analysts this morning, the prices were up 4.1% from a year ago, the fastest annual inflation rate in more than three years. The recent jump in inflation has been driven by high oil prices. The data showed that the inflation problem, though, goes well beyond energy. The so called core measure, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, rose 0.3% in May and was up 3.4% from a year earlier. Urgent heat warnings in effect across more than a dozen Western European countries as the region grapples with a severe and unusually early heat wave. Western Europe is currently trapped under an Omega block, a stubborn high pressure system resembling the uppercase Greek letter omega. You've seen the Omega, it kind of looks like a horseshoe.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

The block, expected to persist through the weekend, has already pushed France to its highest ever national average temperature with some regions exceeding 110 degrees Fahrenheit. At least 40 people have drowned seeking relief. In France, heat related power grids have left more than 60,000 homes without electricity. Across all of Europe, at least 250 people have died as the continent is gripped by the heat wave. Unlike in the US Most buildings in Europe lack central air conditioning, forcing people to take unusual measures. I, I, I have a friend who moved to Paris, I don't know, six months ago. He is a musician and he was playing a gig in a bar the other night and it was 102 degrees outside with no air conditioning. He was, he was all sweaty, needless to say.

[F]

Wow, that sounds horrible. And Parisians don't like using deodorant, do they?

[E]

I don't oh, that place was ripe.

[F]

Yeah, the place smelled like ass, I'm sure.

[E]

Oh, derriere. We say in French.

[F]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[C]

Yeah. Speaking of music, a music death that I much must mention. I know I try not to anymore, but. David Clay Clayton Thomas, he was the lead singer of Blood, Sweat and Tears. He has died at the age of 84. No cause was given. Clayton Thomas joined Blood, Sweat and Tears in 1968. One album after it was formed, quickly became a huge part of the group and crucial to its popularity. Self taught, charismatic frontman with a burly physique and a snarling bluesy tenor, he stood out in the band. Music producer Clive Davis also passed away this week, who was then president of Columbia Records, wrote in his memoir about his first meeting with Clayton Thomas, saying, he jumped right at you. He seems so genuine and so in command of the lyric. A perfect combination of fire and emotion with Clayton Thomas at the helm. Blood, Sweat and Tears played the Woodstock Festival in 1969, won the Grammy award for album of the year in 1970 for its self titled release which included a lot of hits, including a cover of Brenda Holloway's you've made me so Very Happy, Clayton Thomas's original Spinning Wheel, Lori Nero's and When I Die, and a version of Billie Holiday's God Bless the Child, which used to be used often on this show as a bump.

[E]

Yes. And then just what a wonderful person, great human being, never did anything wrong.

[C]

Well, that's, that's not quite true, but. Oh, okay, but go ahead. I know where you're going.

[E]

Yeah, I know. I, I, maybe I shouldn't even bring it up with just Joe o', Brien, but we don't.

[C]

Joe, basically. Joe. Brian was filling in for Mr. Sushere years ago and, and hinted that perhaps David Clayton Thomas had some sort of sexual crime in his background. Yes, that, that was not true. He never did. He did have a criminal record as a teenager in Canada, but it was all. He was a runaway and he would go steal bread, that kind of thing. And that's basically. Yeah. And there's a great story, a great documentary from a couple years ago called what the hell happened to Blood, Sweat and Tears? Boy, this is a long story and I don't want to get Joe, Joe would stop me now. But the Blood, Sweat and Tears went and did a tour for the State Department and nobody knew why and they toured Yugoslavia and Russia, etc.

[E]

Hey, John, what else you got? What, what's going on here?

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Not trying to be funny at all. Is that where the line comes from? The song, the I don't mind you stealing bread? Was that an homage to him at all?

[F]

Finish the story. Finish the story.

[B]

Oh, I thought you were done. I'm sorry.

[C]

And. And so. Not listening, are you, Chris? So anyway, they did this. Did this thing and all the hippies and, you know, left wings turned against Blood, Sweat, Tears because they said, why are you doing this for the Nixon State Department? Well, as it turns out, as you find out in this movie, the State Department basically told David Clayton Thomas, if you don't go do this with your band for us, we are going to send you back to Canada because of your juvenile criminal record. But that news never got out because they didn't want to share it, obviously, and neither did the Nixon administration. Administration?

[F]

What purpose, what good did they do for the administration? Why was it so important that they were there?

[C]

Well, just to serve goodwill from. From America, if you will. The same reason. I know in the 80s or the late 70s, the Doobie Brothers did the same thing.

[H]

Really?

[C]

And I've read interviews with Jeff Baxter and Mike McDonald where they both said it was amazing the way people reacted to him. And they think, you know, they think, yes, we think we helped bring down the wall because all these young people got so involved with what we were doing, knew the songs, et cetera, et ce.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[C]

But yeah, it was a good will thing. But anyway, his criminal record, and it was a great documentary where they interviewed all the people in Blood, Sweat and tears and David Clayton Thomas. And nobody wanted it to be known and they couldn't say anything. But in the meantime, everybody turned against him because, you know, like Rolling Stone magazine turned against him. Oh, what are you doing for the Nixon administration? Blah, blah, blah. So anyway, yeah, great, David.

[E]

So we've got Clive Davis and Thomas. Those are two. Doesn't it come. Coming threes. Do we have a third unfortunate death? Maybe next week. Okay.

[C]

I hope not.

[E]

Unfortunately. Same. I'm not trying to.

[C]

Although they. I mean, Clive Davis was 94 and David Clayton Thomas was 84. So.

[D]

Okay, you know, got it.

[C]

It worked out okay for him in the long run.

[F]

Sure.

[C]

I think he also had a very nice solo career. Didn't have any hits, but some really good albums.

[F]

So, hey, when we leave today, are we going to go out with this day in history? Because I have a music item for this day in history.

[C]

Yep, we can. Sure. You asking me or sure. I'm going to vote yes.

[E]

Ken, what happened?

[C]

I'll vote yes. Kenny?

[G]

Okay.

[B]

But first we need to Hear from

[E]

Are we going to talk about Walker Roofing?

[B]

I think we're.

[E]

I certainly hope so because those of you that go to walkerroofing.com will find out that these gl ers do a great job and they're not door to door salesmen. I just had one the other day. A nice kid came up in the alley and we started talking to me about siding. I live in a brick house. I said, we're good here bud. Trying to get him out of there. I'm like, it's okay. Walker Roofing though, will not do that door to door stuff. If you have a problem, whether it's residential or commercial, they will of course help you out, but they're not going to come knocking on your door. So write this website down. Walkerroofing.com or 247 emergency services. I hope you never need it. 651-251-0910 all the info at Walkerroofing, they've got an A plus rating with a better Business bureau and they've got decade after decade after decade of satisfied customers. So let's go siding. Let's go gutters. Let's go roofing.

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Let's go mets.

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Let's go rook. Walkerroofing.com worryproof buildings and homes since 1938. And as Joe said, there's only one number to keep for your roofing problems and that is 651-251-0910 or just remember walkerroofing.com.

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Starter up just like talking across your backyard fence.

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And this is a big backyard. Joe Suceret Hey Offerman Water and Connecticut. In fact, I was just talking to somebody this morning about my Connecticut water treatment system. Here's the deal ladies and gentlemen. Now is a wonderful time to get on that schedule and have Hoffman Water come out for that free water analysis. You do that one of two ways. You can call them up directly at 612-895-2440. Or better yet, book your appointment online today at hoffermanwater.com either way you get on that schedule, you have them come up for that free water analysis when they come out. They will give you what's called a water score. Then based upon that water score that determines the level of the hardness of the water, insert your home. They will give you recommendations on how they can and will upgrade the quality of your water. That's how this relationship started. I was a customer of Hofferman Water and Connecticut and it's made an amazing difference in the quality of my water. So they will do that for me, and they will do that for you. 612-895-2440 or visit hoffermanwater.com and that's because Hofferman Water has been proudly serving the state of Minnesota for over, over 50 years. Please do me a favor and mention that you heard about them here on the Garage Logic podcast.

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Kenny Olson, on this date. History.

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June 25th. Yes, June 25th.

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Dearly beloved, we are gathered here to get through this thing called life.

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Wow.

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Purple Rain was released in 1984. Oh, really? On this day in history, June 25, 1849, Alexander Ramsay arrived in St. Paul. They couldn't find a place to live, so they moved into an abandoned saloon.

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Really?

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Doesn't that sound fun?

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That sounds really cool.

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I don't remember how Joe phrases it, but today in Minnesota sports, who'd we

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lose to on June 25th? Ken?

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Well, Chris, we didn't lose to anyone, but in 1977, the very first Grandma's Marathon was run from Two Harbors to Duluth.

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Having watched someone run in that four times, that's a really fun spectacle. Tom Holzer was not really wrong yesterday.

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Yes, John, I have something for this day in history, too, and I bring it to you only because I love the little headers that Fark puts on their stories. You know, they're, they're very funny sometimes. 150 years ago today, Custer first started the fight with that he shouldn't mention. Yeah. And the, the far header. The only reason I saw this was 150 years ago today, the Sioux gave Custer an arrow shirt. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I've been to that battlefield three times. Every time I go by, I pull off and then take the tour. It's fascinating.

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Have you been to Fort Lincoln? Right to his house and stuff?

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I've also been to Lincoln. Yeah.

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In my. In my hometown.

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I've been to all the forts, John.

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I've been to every fort.

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I've been everywhere, man.

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Thank you.

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Jailers, huh?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Hey, do us a favor. If you have not done so already, you should join the over 21,000 subscribers on the Garage Logic YouTube channel. Did you know that GarageLogic has a YouTube channel?

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No.

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GarageLogic has a YouTube channel. And you can watch the show every single day starting right around noon. And you can also see full segments. There's video shorts, there's behind the scenes footage. It's all there for you. Just search garagelogic, two words on YouTube along with all of our social media channels. That includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And also don't forget to sign up for the Daily Logician. That is an email that comes right to your inbox each and every single day and it includes the most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more and set up today [e-mail] hopefully the mayor, possibly hopefully will join us back here in the studios again tomorrow. It is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-92-55608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free 40, 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. He will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. He is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. Josh, a question for you because you and I have had conversations over the years and I've always wondered what would you give advice to, whether it's a first time investor, a long term investor. What are some of the general principles that you try to apply and terms of investing?

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The easiest answer? Chris Growth will out. Growth will out. Invest for growth. Most people would say, josh, if you buy growth, aren't you paying up growing companies? Well, you might be and then again you might not be because the next question is, well, isn't buying value oriented companies, companies with the lowest price to earnings multiple, the lowest price to sales multiple, isn't that better strategy than going just for growth? Well, the idea is that growth will out and that has been proven to me and proven to other investors time and time again over long periods of time. Gross will out. Now there are of a lot, lot of companies that will say in their infancy or when they're there's just an idea out there that those companies that are involved in the fastest growing industry and there become more and more of them tend to skyrocket very quickly in value. And then it is found over a period of time that they're not earning money, that their sales aren't growing, their sales aren't growing, something has stalled out. And these stocks which have been, we'll say, rocket ships, crater and fall to earth and the winners sometimes out of that group are those that have had the staying power and really do have growth, do have an IDEA do have products or services that are in demand and they start eventually moving ahead. There of course are those companies that are very steady growers that have again products and services that people want, people need at some point. Yes, these companies do have a mature industry or mature in terms of their growth and the growth slows. These companies then pay out dividends at a higher rate or end up buying back shares, another form of paying investors for, for them. If I look at an old, and I say an old growth company like Coca Cola, which I have talked about for many years, a very slow old growth company, it doesn't grow at 10 or 12 or 20% but it's a very steady mid single digits grower and they do grow their dividend every, every year and they do buy back some shares and they have a product or actually several products that people can't be without, water for one and say milk, juice, coffee, tea. Coca Cola as an example sells over 200 products and over 200 countries around, around the world. Very, very steady company. Is it going to go to the moon? No. Is it going to provide a level of safety? Oh yes, and it's going to provide a very nice dividend yield that's going to grow over time. I'll say one of the best investors long term, Warren Buffett has included Coca Cola in his portfolio. Berkshire Hathaway for decades at the price that he originally bought, bought it and added to the shares yet have gone up. But what has increased even more is the dividend. The dividends that are paid out and the dividends that are paid out relative to his cost basis give Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett a dividend yield, we'll say in excess of 15% but again that's over a long period of time. And cocaine, just an old staid company on the other hand, a company that started growing fast, faded, came up with new products, saw the growth accelerate and then would fade and come back with newer products and now just is, I'll say is one of the largest companies in the world and they provide a product and service that people really can't be without. That is Apple. Apple now has 2.4 billion iOS users and at least 1 1/2 billion billion iPhone users. And if I look at most people are going to be replacing their phone every four to five years and when they replace the phone they're going to need more memory, need more storage and they'll probably get more services from from App is no longer Growing at 20 or 25%. Growing at a single digit rate. But Apple does buy back shares and does increase their dividend as a product or service that people can count on and generates tremendous amount of cash flow. They so much cash flow and so much cash that the countries in which Apple operates, the governments all want a piece of Apple's assets, Apple's business and they attempt to go after Apple as a monopoly. That said, Apple is a very very steady growth company and even with all the fluctuations and worries that say analysts have over the next iteration of the iPhone, this company could well care continue to perform on a very very long long term basis. That's an example. Both Coke and Apple are examples of first faster growing companies and then companies that become steady growers. And those are types of companies that for longer term investors you should look look at growth will out the that is I'll say the biggest bit of advice Chris that I could give any investor the other piece is always keep cash available because inevitably in any given year a market is going to pull back 5 to 10% 3 to 4 times during the course of the year. And having cash available to add to positions is is beneficial now in putting together any portfolios, you know for myself or my clients and my money is in the exact same spots that my clients money is in. They would go in together and out together on new purchases. My focus always has been companies around the Internet, companies involved in leisure China related businesses without necessarily being in China because that's still faster growing part of the world. Real assets such as real estate and to keep a portion of money available for short term trading or for opportunities and by we'll say concentrating in the portfolio concentrating or focusing the portfolios in those areas. I have found better opportunities for growth than in other sectors of the marketplace

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and that's why we come to you for the straight talk and never ever sugarcoat advice. Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 95295608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll talk to you again tomorrow.

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Thank you very much Chris.

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