4/2 Ellison’s Alleged FOF Involvement, Trump Pardons a $39 Million Cheat, and the Anchor-Dragging Apocalypse Nobody’s Ready For.

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast – April 2, 2026

Episode Title: Ellison’s Alleged FOF Involvement, Trump Pardons a $39 Million Cheat, and the Anchor-Dragging Apocalypse Nobody’s Ready For
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor"), with Chris Reivers, Kenny Olson, John Heidt, and Matthew
Podcast Network: Gamut Podcast Network
Theme: Common sense commentary from the heart of "Gumption County" on Minnesota and national affairs, covering politics, fraud, economics, news, quirky science, and listener mail — all in the inimitable, irreverent Garage Logic style.

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Episode Overview

This episode covers:

1. Breaking updates on the Feeding Our Future (FOF) fraud scandal and Attorney General Keith Ellison’s alleged involvement.
2. Discussion of Trump pardoning a disgraced nursing home magnate who defrauded Medicare and mistreated the elderly.
3. A deep-dive into the terrifying vulnerability of undersea internet cables and the ease with which global communication could be sabotaged.
4. Assorted news: local grant access, Minneapolis crime, chocolate controversies, political oddities, and more with a blend of skepticism, humor, and exasperation.
5. Notable quotes and the trademark GL banter throughout.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Moon Mechanics and Artemis Launch Hilarity [01:17–08:34]

• Corrections from Listeners:
  • The team receives several ‘brusque’ and ‘kind’ corrections from listeners about their previously muddled lunar science, particularly "the dark side of the moon."
  • Dave Jones of Nevada explains synchronous orbit: "The moon does rotate on its axis, but its rotational rate matches the rate it orbits the Earth. So the same side of the moon always faces the Earth." (Brian, listener email, 02:30).
  • The confusion intensifies with playful back-and-forth and self-deprecating humor as the crew struggles to visualize the phases.
• Media Awareness Commentary:
  • Kenny notes how news of Artemis’s launch was absent from his social media feeds: "I think people that follow social media were screwed. They were screwed out of the news." (08:34)
  • Joe speculates on the algorithms keeping real events out of people's feeds.

2. Minnesota Grants, Bureaucracy, and Discriminatory Practices [11:44–18:30]

• Listener Kurt Peterson’s Story:
  • Kurt, an inventor, shares his rejection from the Minnesota Launch Innovation Grant due to lack of funding and being an "able-bodied white guy" (12:51).
  • Joe laments, "Here's an honest, law abiding, tax paying citizen... But they do have $100 million they're distributing to businesses that they don't check out." (15:57)
• Bureaucratic Frustration:
  • Kenny and Joe discuss convoluted state aid programs, saying the state prioritizes redistributive politics over supporting genuine entrepreneurship.
  • On health care: Kenny calls MinCare "a goat rodeo," recounting his frustrations trying to sign up (18:40).

3. Feeding Our Future Scandal & Attorney General Ellison [22:54–31:36]

• Bill Glahn’s American Experiment Reporting:
  • Joe reads from Glahn, discussing revelations that Sharon Ross (FOF defendant) claims AG Keith Ellison assured her the program was safe—despite evidence to the contrary:
    • Ross writes: "He stated to me that there was nothing wrong with the program and that I should continue...to tell me that nothing was wrong...makes me feel that I was getting set up even from him." (Ross email excerpt, 25:46)
  • The hosts debate the implications:
    • Kenny: "It’s like a bad plot to a Rockford episode." (27:39)
    • Joe: "If [Ellison] is complicit in this, he should be imprisoned." (29:31)
  • The group expresses exasperation at Minnesota’s “fraudy” reputation and proposes a tongue-in-cheek new tourism slogan: "Visit Minnesota...we're feeling fraudy all the time." (30:47)

4. Minneapolis Crime & Auto Theft Surge [31:43–36:46]

• News Highlights by John Heidt:
  • Minneapolis sees a 28% YoY surge in vehicle thefts; 40% of them left running or with keys inside (31:46).
  • Thieves now lure locksmiths to steal programming tools.
• "No Sympathy":
  • Joe: "No sympathy for them." (32:32)
  • Banter about anti-theft "stick shifts," competitions among thieves, and a debate over car thieves’ consciences when kids are left in cars.

5. Trump Address on Iran; News Roundup [41:27–43:35 & 44:22–50:53]

• Trump’s televised Iran war speech ("there is absolutely no inflation") is mocked:
  • John H.: "If Iran doesn’t cooperate, we’re going to bomb them into the stone Ages." (43:36)
  • Matthew: "He used decimated about 16 times. He kept saying being he’s quite mad over and over." (42:48)
• Additional topics:
  • Tentative deal on health provider union contract.
  • Ruby’s Pantry sudden closure and strain on food banks.
  • House and Senate Republicans plan to end the DHS shutdown.
  • Supreme Court skepticism over Trump’s efforts to limit birthright citizenship.
  • Trump pardons January 6th defendants, some of whom re-offend; Daniel Tachi sentenced for child pornography—the group expresses outrage.

6. Chocolate Controversy: The Reese’s Debate [49:10–53:59]

• Hershey’s will return to ‘classic recipes’ for Reese’s products after backlash about cheaper ingredients.
• Hosts discuss the health claims of dark chocolate.
  • Joe: "That’s like saying Pall Malls are healthier than Winston’s." (53:37)

7. Trump Pardons a $39M Cheat: The Joseph Schwartz Nursing Home Scandal [62:13–69:17]

• Joe reveals that Trump pardoned Joseph Schwartz, who defrauded Medicare and left elderly in squalor.
  • Soucheray recounts: "He overbilled Medicaid, withheld millions of payroll taxes, paid himself as a ghost employee...residents died under his care." (63:16)
  • "I can’t find any reason that he would be that Trump pardoned him. I can’t find any reason for it." (66:41)
  • Matthew notes Arkansas will still pursue state charges.
• Discussion of the harsh realities of the U.S. nursing home system.

8. The "Anchor-Dragging Apocalypse": Undersea Cable Vulnerability [70:07–79:22]

• Listener Tom Lyman shares a detailed warning:
  • 95% of international internet traffic runs through literal cables on the sea floor, highly susceptible to sabotage (70:25).
  • "You do not need sophisticated technology to destroy a subsea cable. You need a ship, a heavy anchor and a knowledge of where the cable runs." (74:21)
  • "Sixteen ships [exhibiting] the hallmark behaviors of a vessel engaged in either reconnaissance or active sabotage. Near sub sea cable infrastructure, anchor drag patterns..." (74:56)
• Kenny’s response: "The best part of that story was the last sentence. This doesn’t affect us at all." (77:40)
  • Joe agrees: "It’s almost my responsibility that I owe you that. That I owe you a new update on doom and gloom." (78:09)

9. Holy Thursday Levity and Classic "GL" Moments [82:48–85:37]

• Matthew marks Holy Thursday by recalling GL’s irreverent debate over "the chalice" used at the Last Supper and plays a comedic Trump Easter parody:
  • "Easter Sunday, we’re going to put it on pay per view. God versus Trump. Who brings back more people on Easter Sunday...I’m going to fire Fauci probably on Good Friday...call it Great Friday for Trump." (Gabe, parody clip, 85:03)

10. Minnesota History, Trivia, and Sign Off [85:44–88:50]

• "On this day" MN factoids, from Alexander Ramsey’s appointment (1849) to the last edition of the Minneapolis Star (1982), to Nelly Stone Johnson’s legacy (2002).
• Matthew plugs garagelogic.com for recipes and more classic GL content.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On feeding our future and Ellison’s knowledge:

• Joe (25:46): "He stated to me that there was nothing wrong with the program and that I should continue...to tell me that nothing was wrong...makes me feel that I was getting set up even from him."
• Kenny (27:39): "It’s like a bad plot to a Rockford episode."
• Joe (30:47): "Visit Minnesota...we’re feeling fraudy all the time."

On government priorities:

• Joe (15:57): "Here’s an honest, law abiding, tax paying citizen... But they do have $100 million they’re distributing to businesses that they don’t check out."

On bureaucratic frustration:

• Kenny (18:40): "[MNCare]...what a goat rodeo. Finally, I just gave up and decided, you know, if something horrible happens, we're just gonna have to pay."

On Trump’s Iran speech:

• Matthew (42:48): "He used decimated about 16 times. He kept saying being he’s quite mad over and over."
• John (43:36): "If Iran doesn’t cooperate, we’re going to bomb them into the stone Ages."

On undersea cable threats:

• Joe (74:21): "You do not need sophisticated technology to destroy a subsea cable. You need a ship, a heavy anchor and a knowledge of where the cable runs."
• Kenny (77:40): "The best part of that story was the last sentence. This doesn’t affect us at all...All this does is add to the general angst and overall doom and gloom that we feel on a daily basis."

On Trump pardons:

• Joe (66:41): "I can’t find any reason that he would be that Trump pardoned him. I can’t find any reason for it."
• John (69:11): "[Another Trump pardon] does not have to make restitution of any kind of the 1.3 billion."

Comedic banter and self-deprecation:

• On lunar phases:
  • Kenny: "You thought the full moon was the new moon?" (09:05)
  • Joe: "I got it from TikTok."
• On auto theft:
  • Joe: "Mine’s theft proof because it’s a stick, it’s a clutch." (35:27)
• On healthy chocolate:
  • Kenny: "That’s like saying Pall Malls are healthier than Winston’s." (53:37)

Parody Trump on Easter:

• Gabe (85:03): "Easter Sunday, we’re going to put it on pay per view. God versus Trump. Who brings back more people on Easter Sunday..."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:17 – Moon mechanics corrections & Artemis launch banter
• 11:44 – Grant process frustration / DEED story
• 22:54 – Feeding Our Future/Keith Ellison revelations
• 31:43 – Minneapolis auto thefts & local crime
• 41:27 – Trump speech on Iran war, stock market
• 49:10 – Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup controversy
• 62:13 – Trump pardons Joseph Schwartz / Nursing home scandal
• 70:07 – Undersea cable sabotage & global insecurity
• 82:48 – Holy Thursday/GL chalice memory/Trump Easter parody
• 85:44 – On This Day in MN History
• 88:50 – Closing financial Q&A

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Summary

This episode swings from substantive political scandal and government malfeasance, to hyper-local gripes about crime and bureaucracy, to wide-eyed dread over infrastructure sabotage—and swings back into classic GL playful irreverence. The show’s strength is in its satirical and skeptical tone, carrying both grave warnings (about state priorities, internet vulnerabilities, and national politics) and its “just a garage guy” detachment from issues no one can control. Whether exploring Ellison’s alleged FOF involvement, skewering politicians’ strange pardons, or marveling at the ease of global cable sabotage, the podcast’s mix of humor, frustration, and Midwestern common sense delivers a distinctive take on the news—a must-listen for those who like their current events with a cigar, a garage door open to spring, and a healthy dose of skepticism.

Transcript

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John H.]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology, Kenny Olson from the Crabby Coffee Shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Succier. We have our own staff geologist, Stacy, who informs U.S. of A5 in Northern California, 4.9 earthquake near San Francisco. What else does she offer? Does she offer? She just says nice sized earthquake south of San Francisco. No injuries or anything of that nature. Artemis took off yesterday for the dark side of the moon. And as we anticipated, some G L ers would like to weigh in on our commentary. Dave writes, hail the Flashlight King. Hail you. The moon does rotate on its axis. Yeah, Gabe, it rotates once for every orbit around the Earth. This is called synchronous orbit. It is also the reason that there is microgravity on the moon and the astronauts don't fly away on the lunar surface. Yours flying faithfully, Dave Jones, Minden, Nevada. Thank you, David. You were kind. Many of them were brusque. Brian writes along with math. You probably should refrain from discussing orbital mechanics. The moon does rotate on its axis, but its rotational rate matches the rate it orbits the Earth. So the same side of the moon always faces the Earth. Oh, you also brought up the dark side of the moon. By that I think you were referring to the side of the moon that's not facing the Earth.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, the other side but the preferred

[Joe Soucheray]

term for that is the far side of the Moon. The far side of the moon is not always dark when we see a new moon. That means that the rear side facing the Earth is not illuminated by the sun. But at that point, the far side is seeing complete sunlight. Huh? The far side is only completely dark when we see a full moon. At all other points. At all other points, the far side is partially facing the sun.

[Matthew]

The far side of the moon is completely dark only when we have a full moon.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he just said though.

[Matthew]

That makes sense.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, the far side of the moon, he writes, is not always dark when we see a new moon. That means that the near side facing the Earth is not illuminated by the sun. Right, but what the hell's illuminating it?

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute. The sun is. But you've seen. When there's a new moon, you can actually see the entire moon. You just own the.

[Joe Soucheray]

The only part I can't see the dark side.

[Kenny Olson]

No, you can, actually.

[Matthew]

Is a new moon a full moon, or is a new moon?

[Kenny Olson]

The next time you're looking at a sliver.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Look really closely. You will see the entire body of the moon.

[Joe Soucheray]

Not the back end. I can't see eyeballs around the side of my head.

[Kenny Olson]

You won't see the farther side. What did he call it? Far side

[Matthew]

I'm seeing cow astronauts.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm gonna back up out of this conversation.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I'm done.

[John H.]

Let me add one too, because I got one, too. I. I read a story and, and a fellow was quite upset with me because I, I said it was a quarter of a billion mile trip. It's actually 250,000 miles, which is a

[Kenny Olson]

quarter of a million million mile trip. So he didn't take that too well, did he?

[John H.]

He did. I screwed it up and he, he didn't like that.

[Joe Soucheray]

So any of my girls, who are the children of a kid I used to have, are fortunate enough right now to be on the east coast of Florida. Okay. So a call was quickly made.

[John H.]

No side.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, no.

[Kenny Olson]

They' I'm sorry.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're on the west coast. West coast of Florida. And about the time Artemis launched, a phone call was quickly made to them to alert them to the idea that apparently it could be seen from the entire state of Florida. So they sent a video. Looked to me like a Delta plane flying over.

[Matthew]

Got it.

[Joe Soucheray]

But they say, we got it. We got it. I argued the point. Argued the point. It's flying from west to east, you know, on its way to Cleveland.

[Matthew]

That may have been the fake one.

[Josh Arnold]

So.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I argued. I said, well, they can't see it there. And I was told, yes, they can. So they're looking right at it. They are. I said, that's great. They're. That. That they got it. They're going. But here, it took off on the west. On the east coast bound, kind of east, southeast. Yeah, maybe it. Maybe it was so brilliant you could see it. But what the video they sent me was clearly a plane flying straight ahead.

[Kenny Olson]

It wasn't a Cessna.

[Josh Arnold]

It wasn't going off.

[Joe Soucheray]

There should have been trail.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, there was.

[Joe Soucheray]

There was a contrail, but jets leave contrails when they're at 33,000.

[Matthew]

You can't. This was huge.

[Joe Soucheray]

So. So the moral of the story is, of course they saw it. I have nothing more to add. Of course they saw it.

[Kenny Olson]

I have a question for all of you. Do you think that this was poorly publicized? The reason I ask is I talked to somebody after the launch who is on TikTok all day, every day, and this person thought I was pulling their leg, didn't believe me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you know what? Maybe your problem starts with the fact that you're talking to somebody who's on TikTok all day.

[Kenny Olson]

The reason I can back that up is I don't remember seeing anything in my Facebook feed about this either.

[Joe Soucheray]

Granted, I only follow your trouble here. You're getting your news from face. So far, what I understand is you're informed by TikTok talking to Facebook. Take a.

[Kenny Olson]

Take a breath.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I'm on the right track. Just.

[Kenny Olson]

Just listen for a second. My entire feed on Facebook is hunting, fishing cars, racing motorcycles.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they don't cover the moon.

[Kenny Olson]

Then I think it's algorithms, which is buried the news very much.

[Joe Soucheray]

I was very aware. I. I don't know where you're coming up.

[Kenny Olson]

I think, Joe, I think we were aware because we follow regular news. There you go. I think people that follow social media were screwed. They were screwed out of the news.

[Matthew]

Hey, over there. Yvonne Polikoff, Mr. Astrophysicist.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got it.

[Matthew]

The new moon is the. Is the one when it has a sliver.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I thought that was the full. Right.

[Matthew]

Okay, I was just making sure.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute. What?

[Matthew]

Yvonne Polakoff was my astrologist at the. At the university.

[Joe Soucheray]

Never had one of them.

[Matthew]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. You thought the full moon was.

[Matthew]

I didn't know what I thought.

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought the full moon was the new moon, okay?

[Kenny Olson]

And you're insulting me about Facebook.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got it from TikTok.

[Kenny Olson]

What is wrong with you?

[Matthew]

Now I'm really gonna believe that. The girls just saw a Cessna flying through southwest Florida across to the with

[Kenny Olson]

the Everglades, the rigid landing gear in the down position. Hey, I got something we can all.

[Joe Soucheray]

One of those Corona Beer. Yes, yes. Drink Corona.

[Kenny Olson]

I've something we can all rally around. Latricia Vitoff.

[Matthew]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've never been treated so warmly by a woman in my life. I saw her coming towards me down the hall and she acted like we had been in a. In a foxhole together somewhere. And she's just the most delightful woman. And she was the guest on Crabby yesterday. Minneapolis City Councilman who has. She's not insane.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, she's such a badass.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's not insane.

[Kenny Olson]

She cannot help herself. She has to tell it the way it is. And that's what she does. She's amazing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Very cool. So I would listen to that if I were.

[Matthew]

What a breath of fresh air.

[Joe Soucheray]

You recall the other day we talked about that New Democratic Party trying to get off the ground in Winnipeg NDP and they couldn't get going because their cards, their colored cards were all screwed up. Well, other national big shot radio people are onto that today. Finally had your scraps, huh? Yeah, they do. But it turns out it's not a new party at all. Hail the flashlight king. Hail you, Alberta. Weighing in here, I listened with embarrassment over the last two days about the New Democratic Party's convention in Winnipeg. A couple of things. The New Democratic Party has been around since 1961. They are the third or fourth most popular national party in Canada. They're behind the Bloc Quebecoi or Out of Quebec party whose sole purpose of being in government is to promote the independence of Quebec. We are not a serious country. I've given up on the politics here and I await your invasion. You want more examples of how crazy we are? This is from our music awards show called the Junos. And he linked me to a YouTube video of a woman singing something completely indecipherable. It was just horrible.

[Kenny Olson]

Like Yoko Ono.

[Joe Soucheray]

Just trouble. Any any who love the show. Sheldon Jones, Calgary, Alberta. Thank you, Sheldon.

[Matthew]

I love the reach of this show.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you. Thank you very much. What else did I have? I had something. Oh, we've been. We've been fascinated with the lack of. What's the word I want? Lack of discipline. The state exhibits when it dispenses money, essentially fraud money. They don't check on anybody. They take people's words for things. And I got a note from Kurt who writes, longtime g ler here in budding entrepreneur. I have recently filed a patent for a new product for the fishing industry and I'm in the process of prototyping materials. A colleague at work recommended applying for a Minnesota Grant for Entrepreneurs. The grant info I found online was for Launch MN Innovation Grant. That would be through the Department of Employment and Economic Deed.

[Matthew]

That would be the deed

[Joe Soucheray]

which in which the state would reimburse you 50 cents on the dollar up to $35,000 for expenses such as research and development, direct business expenses and technical assistance. This grant was designed specifically to encourage and speed up new business creation and would only reimburse once the money has been spent. The grant recipient would have to prove they already spent money before recouping funds from the program. I never thought about looking for assistance, but thought I may as well inquire. It seemed too good to be true as I'm finding out R and D and manufacturing on a new invention is more expensive and time consuming than I had initially thought. A grant like this would have opened me up to accelerating the prototyping. As I'm doing this with a small amount of personal savings that I'm putting at risk. Well, it was too good to be true. The Minnesota Small Business Assistance Office through DEED got back to me to let me know the most recent legislative session did not award any funding for Innovation Grants. They directed me to a link for other funding possibilities. The first question for searching for grants pretty much rules me out for any assistance as I am an able bodied white guy hearing on the show yesterday about the new program offering $100 million to eligible businesses in communities that have been advers affected by structural racial discrimination, civil unrest, lack of access to capital, loss of population or an aging population or lack of regional diversification. Just shows how the current trifecta is not interested in growing the Minnesota economy, but redistributing our tax dollars into more empty holes. There is no way to gauge the impact of these dollars or any expectation that the state will return on investment, but I'm sure Minnesota representatives may have a few friends who qualify for the grants. Anyway, I'll keep chugging along by myself as I had always planned to after my day job, family obligations and risking my measly savings on an idea. I'll know I made it when I buy an advertisement on gl. I think Kenny would be a great spokesperson. Good luck. Kurt Peterson, Inventor of Pole Buddy coming in 20262027 ice season he's giving us a little hint there what he's what he's noodling around with something called pole buddy. He may be right, but isn't that typical? Here's an honest, law abiding, tax paying citizen who was alerted to the idea that hey, you know, if you get ahold of deeds, they make some grants to people who have innovative ideas. Well, it turns out apparently DEED no longer does that or currently does not do that. But they do have 100 million they're distributing to businesses that they don't check out.

[Matthew]

Oh, I bet people are just chomping at the bit to get that.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's just another example of what the hell, what are you going to do?

[Matthew]

What are you going to do? It's just a number, another drop in the bucket.

[Joe Soucheray]

Root for this guy and hope he makes it. But like I told you before, it's still a free country. And any human being in the United States is allowed to get as wealthy as possible. But they're making it harder and harder and harder to do so.

[Matthew]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

You would think they would want us to be as wealthy as possible the way they tax us.

[Joe Soucheray]

You would think that the state would look at a guy like this. And as long as they're, as long as they're dishing out money. Yeah, why don't you dish some of it out to legitimate people?

[Kenny Olson]

Let's get this guy started so we can get him on the backside.

[Joe Soucheray]

And remember, he never intended to even look into this. But there are programs for guys like him. It just turns out that impossible to negotiate, impossible to fulfill the obligations. And in this case, never mind, we don't have that money anymore.

[Kenny Olson]

How do you personally feel about that? Should entrepreneurs chase that money? Would you if you had a chance?

[Joe Soucheray]

No. Knowing what I know now, I have some experience at it. Having invested in some friends who had

[Matthew]

an idea and no deed money available. We just got such a cash college. Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

And it didn't work out. And. But that deed's working on that. That really wasn't the fault of the program from the state.

[Matthew]

I don't know. I think they would had a little more from the state, knowing what I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. I'm gonna answer Kenny. No, I would not. I would not. I would struggle through my own just like this guy's doing. The hell with him. I would struggle on my own. I don't want any part of it.

[Matthew]

However, if you are legitimate, you're not a fraudster. So you're taking the money in good faith to.

[Joe Soucheray]

They don't care. Matt, you just missed what I just said. They don't have any money for honest people. They have A lot of money for dishonest people.

[Matthew]

No, I know, but what I'm saying is that guy should still pursue it just to there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he can't now because DEED has told him we no longer provide those grants.

[Matthew]

You're too normal.

[Joe Soucheray]

You're too way too ahead of the curve here, pal. We're not going to fool with you. I gotta save this for a while.

[Kenny Olson]

We were without health care and I tried to chase down. What was it called? Min Care. Yeah, Try to get us signed up for that. My God, what a goat rodeo. Finally I just gave up and decided, you know, if something horrible happens, we're just gonna have to pay. It wasn't worth all the time and fighting and arguing and frustration.

[Matthew]

Well, and think about that. Think of all the people that came here that just didn't have it and went ahead and if they had a problem, they went to the ER and they weren't given a bill, you know.

[Kenny Olson]

And I told they knew how much I make. So they said, you're not gonna qualify for the free stuff. You're. You're gonna have to pay for it. But it was still such an onerous burden trying to get signed up and getting two different stories. I'd get one story on the phone and then a different one on the Internet. And yes, you qualify, no you don't qualify. And back and forth and finally I just said, screw all of you.

[Joe Soucheray]

We can't start over. It would be probably physically impossible. But that's the only way I can see to ever solve any of this. And what you're just talking about, Kenny, is an example of the redundancy and the layering on of bureaucrac and the too many programs. And the buck never stops anywhere. They've got it figured out that the buck never stops anywhere. None of them are facing consequences for their failure. A lot of them come from the failed academy. And I have a little note here from the American Experiment. If you're tired of watching Minnesota's education system fail, here's a chance to do something about it. On Tuesday, April 14, you can join the America Experiment. Excuse me. At the State Capitol for a school choice rally. We'll gather from noon to 1 o' clock at the Cass Gilbert Memorial park just northeast of the Capitol right before a major school choice hearing in the Minnesota House. It's free, it's gonna be peaceful. And it's about giving parents some educational freedom. Sponsored by the center of the American Experiment and opportunity for all kids show up. Because the future of Minnesota's kids is worth an hour of your time. For more information, go to americanexperiment.org this

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and do not constitute investment advice. Chris Reivers is a paid endorser. And speaking of American experiment, we learned today from a Bill Glahn piece that the question keeps coming up in reference to the feeding our future fraud scandal. What did Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison know and when did he know it? Another piece to the puzzle can be found in a court filing made last month in the case of Sharon Ross, the former operator of the House of Refuge food distribution operation in St. Paul. Ross is defendant number 60 out of 79 so far in the scandal. She was the 17th to plead guilty. I don't know why I'm coughing. Excuse me. She was the 17th to plead guilty in the case and the third defendant sentenced out of eight so far back in Feb. Of 2025, Ross was sentenced to serve 43 months in federal prison, which fell within the 37 to 46 month guidelines. Used. Used. Come on, you can do it. Used in the plea agreement. Nonetheless, Ross had been fighting for the past year for a sentence reduction. To that end, last month Ross sent a seven page email to the court which included this paragraph describing an October 21, 2021 encounter with Ellison. That's very interesting too. And her paragraph reads as follows. I also contacted Keith Ellison. He was a speaker at the inauguration ball for Reverend Patterson in October 2021 and asked him about the program and he stated to me that there was nothing wrong with the program and that I should continue. I recently watched the Senate hearings that took place this month, February 2026 where Attorney General Keith Ellison was questioned by senators and it was stated that the Attorney General was told about the fraud as early as 2019 or earlier, which was at least two years or more before I even heard about the program. And according to the senators at the hearing, the Attorney General knew about the fraud and the fraud investigation and that he even was recorded having a meeting with individuals in the program and stated that he would take care of the situation. I believe that when I asked the Attorney General about the program prior to me getting into the program fully, that he should have been honest with me and told me to stay away from the program. He would not have had to give me any specifics, but to tell me that nothing was wrong with the program and that it would be a good program for me to be a part of makes me feel that I was getting set up even from him. That's your paragraph. And then Bill Glahn continues. That date is significant as it comes two months before Ellison's infamous December 2021 meeting with Defeating Our Future Fraudsters. A 54 minute meeting where the audio was recorded. The December 2021 Ellison meeting included two attendees who would later be convicted in the fraud. In her email, Ross, who would also later be convicted in the fraud and documents an October encounter with Ellison. In her email, Ross mentions watching Ellison's February 2026 testimony before the U.S. senate. In this post, I describe one instance where I believe Ellison lied under oath at that hearing. That Ross had friends in high places within the Democratic party is confirmed in this 2021 incident were State Senator Sandy Pappas, DFL St. Paul went to bat for Ross's organization. And Bill concludes today's posting on the American Experiments site as developing. My God. Maybe they just all are involved. Every single one of them.

[Kenny Olson]

From a legal standpoint. I realize you're a lawyer. That's why I'm asking you, is this admissible or is this just hearsay?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it sounds to me like Ross is hoping this is admissible. This is an email she sending to the court, basically saying, hey, what about me? I'm sitting in here in jail. He told me to go ahead with this. It was great.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, and that. I bet it was one of the main reasons why she went ahead and went with it. Oh my Lord. It's like a bad plot to a Rockford episode.

[Joe Soucheray]

She's been fighting for the past year to get her sentence reduced to that end. Last month. So that would be March, just this past month, Ross sent a seven page email to the court dated, well, last month, it turns out It's February, dated February 22, which included the paragraph I just read to you. So she's been in jail, she's watching Ellison testify. Ian Cockwamble went out and testified before the U.S. committee. And she's saying, well, holy mackerel, I talked to this guy when he knew about fraud and he told me, don't worry about it, go ahead, submit your bills or whatever. She. I'll review for you in just a moment who she is. Okay, we're talking about the case of Sharon Ross, the former operator of the House of Refuge food distribution operation in St. Paul. Ross was defendant number 60 in the food fraud scandal. She was. And she pled guilty. So she, she obviously was fraudulent, right? I don't know. She was, she was frauding, she was acting fraudy.

[Kenny Olson]

Those are all terms.

[Joe Soucheray]

But she, she is saying, okay, you gave me 43 months in federal prison. Okay, yeah, I was fraudy, but the guy told me to go and do it. Now, now we have to be somewhat academic insane here. You know, how much sympathy do I have for a woman who believes she was told by the state's attorney general to go ahead and commit fraud? Essentially, is what she's saying. I have no sympathy for her. By the same token, Ellison cannot be let off the hook for this he is so far. If he's complicit in this, he's. He should be imprisoned. So should cockwamble or taken out of the.

[Matthew]

What do you call them? The lights. The Klee Gleg lights. The big.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he was. He was dragged out to Washington. Bill Glenn believes he. Bill Glenn caught him in a lie. And more developing. We'll hear more from Bill Glenn. We've had him on the show many times. He's on this fraud like white on rice, as they say.

[Matthew]

I use a different term, but okay.

[Kenny Olson]

I think you just came upon our next tourism slogan. Joe. Feeling froggy. Come to Minnesota.

[Joe Soucheray]

Visit Minnesota. Any season we'll do. We're feeling fraudy all the time.

[Kenny Olson]

And we could put together a jingle. John put together a Froggy Johnny.

[Joe Soucheray]

We need a froggy jingle. And it's not seasonal. It's just we're frothy all the time. Watch our buildings decrease in value and watch our office space get diminished and watch our cars get stolen. But in the meantime, enjoy the way we feel fraudy.

[Kenny Olson]

We put together a promo like that on the early days of Crabby and the only thing we left out was fraud.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, like he shouldn't have left it out.

[Kenny Olson]

I wish I could go back.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's the equivalent of that. Come to Cleveland and watch the river bird.

[John H.]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Remember that.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I believe we'll take a little time out here for John Hyde. Or do you want to do one of these? All right, we're going to go to John Haidt in his newsroom.

[John H.]

Goodness, it's early. Let me. Let me grab it here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, well, I got things to do.

[John H.]

It's Thursday. That's right. You know, in news. Oh, I should mention this news is brought to you by North American Banking Company in news. Minneapolis police say they're working to address an increase in motor vehicle thefts this year. Police data showed a nearly 28% year over year increase and about a 13% increase just in the last month. The individuals committing the crimes include youth and adults, according to police. And Chief Brian o' Hara says this might be the most significant crime problem we're dealing with right now. O' Hara told her friends at 5 Eyewitness News about 40% of the stolen vehicles. 40%. 4 out of every 10 are left running or with keys inside.

[Joe Soucheray]

No sympathy for them.

[John H.]

No. Hyundai and Kia models are still also being targeted despite manufacturer updates accounting for 40% of thefts. New trends are emerging as well, O' Hara said We've had at least two instances in the city where locksmiths have been lured to a location, and then they're robbed of the technology that locksmiths carry to reprogram fobs. Seems like a lot of work, doesn't it?

[Joe Soucheray]

It really does, Especially if it's just a Hyundai.

[John H.]

Strategies to steal vehicles are still being shared on social media. He said. He said, we have information to suggest some of that was being done essential as a competition. Police are using forensics to help identify the individuals involved in the crimes. The chief said, we do think one of the other things that's happening is there's a different group of kids that's coming up and getting involved in this. He said juvenile investigators are reaching out weekly to parents and guardians of youth that they know are involved in auto theft to engage with them and try and make referrals to community organizations that can help out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did you see the video of a car was stolen with the child inside it, the baby inside it?

[Matthew]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

And the. And the mom comes running out. Understandably hysterical.

[Matthew]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

I have some questions.

[Matthew]

Go.

[Joe Soucheray]

What was. Why did she leave a kid in a car that appeared to be running?

[Matthew]

Thought she was gonna zip in and zip out, I'm sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. Come on.

[Kenny Olson]

He'll be fine.

[Matthew]

Little junior here.

[John H.]

You may not remember, but that was my lead story yesterday, and I was surprised that none of you asked that because I had the same question.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sorry.

[Kenny Olson]

We were trying to figure out dark side.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

What side of the moon is that?

[John H.]

Working on that whole moon thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

I was working on the moon.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

But. Holy mackerel, lady, you're lucky. And she got her kid back. She's lucky.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

It all worked out. It all worked out.

[Matthew]

I would say 99.9 of car thieves. If there's a baby in the car, have some sort of conscience.

[Joe Soucheray]

Boy, you're more generous than I am.

[Kenny Olson]

Where are you getting your statistics?

[Joe Soucheray]

I wouldn't go 99%.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'd go maybe 1 50% at the most.

[Kenny Olson]

I go less.

[Matthew]

They don't want to have a baby in the car. They want a whole nother.

[Kenny Olson]

What I don't get is in the old days when a car was ripped off, it would be taken to what we used to call a chop shop. They'd cut her up and sell the parts, and those parts would go on. On to fit onto other vehicles and have a nice, long life. These cars aren't going to chop shops.

[Chris Reivers]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're being driven around to commit other crimes.

[Kenny Olson]

It's. It's almost like counting coup. You know, they're stealing cars just to say they stole the car.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Okay. An initiation.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, sort of. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mine's theft proof because it's a stick, it's a clutch.

[Matthew]

They can't drive it minus the theft proof by nobody'd want it by the appeal.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really.

[Matthew]

Just walking up to like, yeah, you know what, let's bypass this.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't want to be seen in this.

[Matthew]

Ding ding. Here comes the mobile.

[John H.]

To Kenny and Rook's point, maybe this quote went by you, but the chief said, quote, we have information to suggest some of that was being done essentially as a competition, meaning the cartels.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, right on the money there. This staff is right on the Got it.

[Kenny Olson]

I actually looked all of this up before I brought it up.

[Matthew]

Name I didn't want to brag in

[John H.]

other news, a man is dead after an overnight shooting in north Minneapolis. Officers responded to a 911 caller's report of a gunshot and a person yelling for help just before 1:20am they found a man with a serious gunshot injury in the street near 31st Avenue and 4th Street north, about a block from Lowry Avenue and I94. Police say the man was taken to a hospital but later died from his injury. A homicide investigation underway as police work to determine what led up to the shooting. No arrests have been made as of this morning. MPD is asking anyone with information about the shooting to contact the Minneapolis Police Department Bargaining teams for a line of health and what leaders say is the biggest private sector provider union in the US have reached a tentative agreement for the union's first contract. That deal, which still has to be approved by a majority of more than 600 doctors, physician assistants and nurse practitioners, comes four years after the group first kicked off its effort to unionize the doctors Council. Seiu, which represents the medical workers, says the sides held over 60 bargaining sessions over two years before they agreed on a tentative three year deal. The group also held a one day strike back in November, an effort the union said appeared to be the biggest of its kind in the country. Details of the agreement aren't yet being shared because it's not yet been ratified, but Doctors Council says it would include pay and leave protections, safety improvements and increased autonomy for providers regarding patient care. Union members are expected to start voting on the deal next week. Ruby's Pantry locations across Minnesota and the Midwest abruptly closed this week, according to a social media post from the nonprofit. The Post said that after several months of realigning, the nonprofit leaders decided to end operations immediately, adding, they're no longer financially sustainable. The organization, which has been around for 20 years, had dozens of pop up events planned across Minnesota and surrounding states in the coming weeks. Ruby's Pantry has been pointing people in need to several other organizations for food assistance after closing up. Angela Hardy of Loaves and Fishes says every time a pantry shuts down, we kind of pick up the slack. Loaves and Fishes provides prepared meals served immediately to folks at its numerous locations, including Hope Presbyterian Church in Richfield. Hardy added that recent economic strains have increased the need for food assistance. Over the past two years, Loaves and Fish has served more than 6 million meals annually and the organization said demand has continued to grow. Loaves and Fishes has been a part of the community for over 44 years, providing meals to anyone in need, no questions asked.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think they've ever been accused of fraud either.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Kenny Olson]

And it's John Heine.

[John H.]

Thank you, Kenny. In other news, President Trump in an address to the nation last night said the war in Iran is nearing completion, projecting another two to three weeks. He says of U.S. involvement. He also expressed confidence that key military objectives are close to being met, including dismantling Iran's missile production, destroying its naval capabilities and curbing its regional proxies. President didn't offer any new news in the address, repeating many of the points he'd made in talking with reporters the last couple of weeks. Stock futures dropped sharply and oil prices surged higher Morning after the address. However, S and P futures, after dropping 1.7%, have gained a little this afternoon. They're only down now less than 1/10 of a percent. Nasdaq 100 futures had tumbled 2% but has come back in. The Dow futures had slid 600 points, but now as of a couple minutes ago are only down about 170.

[Joe Soucheray]

Among the many things he said last night was that there is absolutely no inflation. Yeah, that's quite mad. You know, he's quite relief.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm glad to hear that.

[Matthew]

I'm really upset that they interrupted Survivor for that speech. We were right on at the heat of the moment.

[John H.]

Did the networks Carry. I watched it.

[Matthew]

Yeah, they broke away.

[John H.]

They did okay. He also.

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought the poor guy sounded short of breath.

[Matthew]

He used decimated about 16 times. He kept saying being he's quite mad over and over. He's quite mad.

[John H.]

You know, he does. He has that thing where I don't know if he loses his place, but he tries to cover like a kid doing a speech in school to kind of repeat the same thing.

[Matthew]

Yes, I'm a master of that. That's why I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, anyway, I do wonder what the point of that was. Last night there, we didn't learn anything.

[Matthew]

He didn't say anything.

[Joe Soucheray]

We didn't learn anything.

[Kenny Olson]

Matthew, if you want to be a good, true, positive American and do something good for this country, you would volunteer, hear your experiences to the president and help him.

[Matthew]

I'll sit down with him and say, here's how you do it. When you don't know what you're talking about, this is what you do.

[Kenny Olson]

Just keep talking.

[Matthew]

Speak with authority and smile. Then distract them. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[John H.]

I think one of the ad libs, by the way, was when he said, if Iran doesn't cooperate, we're going to bomb them into the stone Ages.

[Joe Soucheray]

Straight Flintstones on you with an S on it.

[John H.]

Stone agent.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I didn't know he did with clam. He went clam a ranch.

[Kenny Olson]

See now, Matthew, if you made that mistake by accident, wouldn't you keep doing it to make it sound like you did it on.

[Matthew]

I planned on this. I'm glad you caught it, too. This is the new way to go.

[Kenny Olson]

That's why I think the president.

[Joe Soucheray]

I did thought I heard him say the straight of hormone too, but I'm not sure.

[Josh Arnold]

Right, right.

[Kenny Olson]

That would be a fun straight.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John H.]

In other news, House and Senate Republican leaders jointly announcing a plan that they said would end the shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security that caused those major airport delays. Republicans vague about the exact plan, but it appears to closely resemble the Senate's preferred path from last Friday. It would fund all of DHS except ICE and Customs and Border Protection, which Democrats won't agree to fund without reforms to immigration enforcement ops. Those two agencies already have separate funding. House Republican leaders trashed that bill and rejected it Friday, but they now appear ready to back down and accept the Senate plan. GOP leadership had no immediate comment on the timing for a vote. Both chambers, remember, are scheduled to be on recess until April 13. A majority of the Supreme Court appeared skeptical of President Trump's efforts to limit birthright citizenship during arguments yesterday. Key conservative justices raised doubts about the constitutionality of the president's executive order that would end automatic citizenship for children born on US Soil to undocumented immigrants and some temporary foreign visitors. When a lawyer for the Trump administration suggested the realities of modern migration required a new assessment of whether the Constitution guarantees birthright citizenship, Chief Justice John Roberts replied with it's a new world, but it's the same Constitution. A man pardoned by President Trump for his actions on January 6th has been sentenced for possessing more than 100,000 child sexual abuse images and videos discovered in connection with the Capitol riot case. Daniel Tachi was sentenced to four years in prison yesterday by U.S. district Judge Mark Mastroianni of the District of Massachusetts after pleading guilty to possession of child pornography. Tochi had been set to go on trial in the January 6 case early last year, but it was declared dismissed after the president granted mass clemency to the 1500 defendants tied to the attack on the Capitol. As of December of last year, a report from the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington found at least 33 individuals who were pardoned by the president had been rearrested, charged or convicted of other crimes since that date. A judge yesterday granted Luigi Mangione only a slight delay of his federal trial in the killing of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson Simpson, moving it from September to October instead of next year.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's guilty. Get rid of him. Why are we wasting time?

[John H.]

As his lawyers had wanted, U S District Judge Margaret Garnett tied her decision to the schedule of Mangione's state murder trial that's set to begin June 8 and take four to six weeks. She rejected a defense request to postpone the federal case until January or February of 2027 so that it could then seek to delay the state case case until September. Utah law enforcement Wait a second.

[Kenny Olson]

Did did we hear anything from his brother Charles has he said anything about this case?

[Matthew]

Chuck not that I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Charles Chuck William Took me a minute.

[John H.]

I'm sitting there going, I don't remember reading about that.

[Kenny Olson]

Chuck

[John H.]

Utah law enforcement officials announced yesterday they have closed a 52 year old cold case that confirmed connects Ted Bundy to the 1974 murder of a Utah teenager whose killing had gone unsolved for decades. 17 year old Laura Amy disappeared on Halloween night 1974 after she told friends she was going to buy cigarettes. Amy was found on Thanksgiving Day down an embankment just off American Fork Canyon Road by hikers. She was reportedly strangled, raped and murdered. On Wednesday, Utah County Sheriff Mike Smith said a news conference that DNA evidence collected from the scene was found to be a positive match to Bundy in Florida this year. That provided definitive evidence that Bundy had indeed killed Laura. And according to the sheriff, Bundy, of course, put to death for multiple killings.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wonder if that woman even has any family left.

[Kenny Olson]

His death wasn't mean enough for me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Prisoners get him?

[Kenny Olson]

No.

[Matthew]

He went to the chair, didn't he?

[Kenny Olson]

Were you ever at a concert where some enterprising people would bring in on a trailer a really beat up piece of crap car, and for 10 bucks you could get three swings at that car with a giant sledgehammer?

[Joe Soucheray]

I, I, I cannot say that I have.

[Kenny Olson]

That's how I would have taken care of Ted Bundy. Ten bucks for three swings?

[Joe Soucheray]

Fine with me.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but he was chair. He wasn't. He didn't get the shot.

[Kenny Olson]

That's not painful enough for me, Matthew.

[Josh Arnold]

I agree.

[Kenny Olson]

I need a long painful painful like in Pulp Fiction. I'm gonna bring in some of my

[Matthew]

he's gonna go medieval. You're going medieval on his ass.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Okay. Got it.

[John H.]

An update on the story Rook. Rook let us in on yesterday and it comes from Hershey. The candy people.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh yeah.

[John H.]

They said yesterday they will now use the classic recipes for all Reese's products starting next year. Oh, change that comes after the grandson of Reese's founder criticized the company for shifting to cheaper ingredients. Reese's peanut butter cups have always been made with real milk chocolate or dark chocolate and peanut butter, but a small portion of Hershey's and Reese's products, like mini Easter eggs, are now made with a coating that contains less chocolate. Hershey said that in 2027 it will shift those products to their classic milk chocolate and dark chocolate recipes. The Hershey, Pennsylvania based company said it will also be making other changes to its sweets portfolio next year, including including transitioning to natural colors and enhancing Kit Kat's recipe to make it creamier. The company said it plans to increase its research and development funding by 25% next year. This all started as Rook told us yesterday, when Brad Reese, the grandson of the inventor of Reese's peanut butter cups, ignited the controversy in a public letter he sent to Hershey's corporate brand manager on Valentine's Day. He wrote, how does the Hershey company continue to position Reese's as its flagship brand, a symbol of trust, quality and leadership, while quietly replacing the very ingredients that built Reese's Trust in the first place?

[Joe Soucheray]

Hershey acknowledged.

[John H.]

She acknowledged some recipe changes, but said it was trying to meet consumer demand for innovation. High cocoa prices have Led Hershey and other manufacturers to experiment with using less chocolate in recent years.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[John H.]

Brad Reese is the grandson of H.B. reese, who spent two years at Hershey before forming his own Candy Company in 1919. H.B. reese invented Reese's Peanut Butter Cups in 1928. That's almost 100 years ago.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, 100 years ain't what it used

[Matthew]

to the test of time.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what's fun? Gellers. And I guess this is a good reason we're on YouTube. YouTube is to watch Joe's reaction when John's doing a candy bar story.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, tell me.

[Matthew]

Fingers start tapping, he starts looking around the room.

[Joe Soucheray]

Tell me this every once in a while you read that dark chocolate is good for you.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. That ain't what we're talking about.

[Matthew]

No. You, the dark chocolate that's good for you has to have a high.

[Joe Soucheray]

How do you know where you buy that?

[Matthew]

It has to have a high dark chocolate content. 80%, 90%. And it's not as sweet as dark chocolate. Dove dark chocolate.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can I ask you something? Well, you, you don't get that at the drugstore, the candy aisle. You got to go to a candy store.

[Matthew]

Well, you need to, you need to spend some money on it. You can go to Kowalski's. You can go to.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what they should do on the package? They should like they do with alcohol. 32% alcohol by volume.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, they should do that.

[Matthew]

It's the cocoa percent that needs to be higher in dark chocolate in order for it to be healthier. It's not healthy, but healthier.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I wouldn't mind trying some, but I'll be damned if I know what I'm getting.

[Matthew]

Go to Kowalski's. Go to the.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not going to the grocery store.

[Matthew]

Flat candy bars that have flavored.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll go when you go. I love John.

[Matthew]

It's like doing a John News store. He's already done with you.

[Kenny Olson]

I love that you're referring to, to chocolate as healthier. That's like saying Paul malls are healthier than Winston's.

[Matthew]

The ones with the filters are healthier. Healthier.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I, I, I thought that it would, it had the same benefits as a good dark wine and that kind of deal where it plays Pac man with your arteries.

[John H.]

Yeah. Dark, Dark chocolate has heart. Positive heart.

[Matthew]

A high cocoa content.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John H.]

By the way, Kenny, to your point, when you talk about Joe's reaction to these stories, I purposely found every bit on this story I could to make

[Joe Soucheray]

it as it seemed very tedious to me.

[Kenny Olson]

Can you See him while you're looking at your copy because it's so awesome.

[John H.]

I look up on occasion and I certainly heard that.

[Joe Soucheray]

And the cartoon bubble I have is the grandson who has absolutely nothing else to do. He's inherited this fortune. He's got his tweed coat on with the leather elbow patches and he parks his Ferrari somewhere and he goes in and writes a letter and he thinks he's done something

[Kenny Olson]

like that. Or would you like Hunter Biden? I mean, come on, there's no comparison

[Joe Soucheray]

between this guy and Hunter Biden.

[Matthew]

I do like the Joe deal. When you're. You're getting about that 48 second point in the 62nd AD and he starts looking at his watch going, has this been going on for 10 minutes or what's going on here?

[Kenny Olson]

It's going to be a long story.

[Joe Soucheray]

The listeners wish for me to keep things moving along. John, do you have something else for us or are you done?

[John H.]

It's up to you, Joe. I have one other story.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'd like to hear it. John.

[John H.]

This is really long, though.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, never mind.

[Kenny Olson]

Say it on me. No, let's hear it.

[Joe Soucheray]

I want to hear.

[John H.]

It involves Matt Gates. Remember Matt Gates?

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, yeah.

[John H.]

You know what? We better. We better have this story.

[Joe Soucheray]

Matt Gates, he was a Florida rep who was. He's had problems with young girls, too.

[John H.]

Oh, remember? And then he was. The president nominated him to be the attorney general.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why? Not quite mad, you know, Remember, we haven't heard.

[John H.]

Hey, member? Yeah, we haven't heard a lot from Matt lately.

[Kenny Olson]

Good.

[John H.]

The world's better off, thankfully. Yes. But the former Florida congressman made a bold claim about a. You like this Joe secret u. S. Government program in an interview this week with podcaster Benny Johnson. It's also quite mad, you know, gets insisted there's a secret program that's actively working to breed alien human hybrids designed to help officials commun with people in other worlds.

[Kenny Olson]

I believe that.

[John H.]

I believe Gates told Johnson I had someone come and brief me who was in the military uniform, worked for the United States army, and briefed me on the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans to create some hybrid race that could engage in intergalactic communication. I love that word, intergalactic. Gates described the man that gave him the info as both a senior enlisted man with the US army and a whistleblower. He then claimed the man told him the secret program forced extraterrestrials in custody to mate with humans that had been abducted from war zones or even, he said, from caravans with migrants you can apply for that.

[Matthew]

Well, how low do you have to be in the dating pool to go? You know what? They'll give it a shot with the aliens.

[Joe Soucheray]

Maybe this guy, if gets ever identifies him, he'll get bumped off. Like these eight NASA guys were missing.

[Kenny Olson]

This sounds to me like a conversation that people on ecstasy have at our rave. I mean, this really sounds like.

[John H.]

Well, a lot of the witnesses to Matt's previous behavior said he did like to indulge in.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. All right.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, now it's making sense.

[John H.]

White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt was asked about all this, saying any speech our president plans to give on aliens would be news to me. Be so.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's great, John. Thank you.

[John H.]

You're welcome.

[Matthew]

Not long enough.

[Joe Soucheray]

Take a time out.

[Kenny Olson]

I think he's not long enough. You know, we could use a little dose of positivity right now. Since it is positive Thursday, and since it is brought to us by Scoon Over Body Works and Autocare, they're up in Shoreview, 1060 County Roadie. Let's talk to Mike Schoonover.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hi, Mike.

[Mike Schoonover]

Hey, Ken. Kenny. Good to be here with you today.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I was ready for the worst this morning, Mike, and I can't believe it. I don't remember seeing or reporting on one crash this morning on my talk. It was very pleasant.

[Josh Arnold]

It was.

[Mike Schoonover]

I was. I was also thankful, Kenny, that we didn't get the Snowmageddon that they were talking about.

[Kenny Olson]

So.

[Mike Schoonover]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of April snow.

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, goodness, no. But I think every winter, I've noticed in my traffic reporting years that the levels get really light between January 15th and Easter. I mean, very light. And then once we pass Easter, which is this weekend, everybody comes back from vacation and spring break and things get really, really busy. So you take that and you combine it with the fact that all the weather people yesterday were telling us that it was going to be horrible. I think a lot of people stayed home. And what a wonderful rush, this. If you had to go to work this morning, I bet you were happy.

[Mike Schoonover]

I did. And it was the usual drive time of 25 minutes from Eagan to Shoreview.

[Kenny Olson]

Nice. So I think one thing that attributes to the. The nice flow this morning is the tires. A lot of people still have their snow tires on. A lot of people have already switched out. Now kind of is the time of year where we want to take those softer snow tires off and get our summer tires on. And I know we talked about that recently, but that's. I just wanted to bring it up again for G L ers to remind them that win tires, boy, they change your life. They'll make your. Your world so much better. And you guys at Schoonover Body Works and Auto Care can do all of that for us.

[Mike Schoonover]

We can. We can. Yeah. You know, if Gillers, if you got your snow tires on, you know, just get them swapped out before the hot weather hits. This cold, damp weather, they're going to be just fine. But. But as soon as the temperature picks up, that. That rubber will deteriorate quickly.

[Kenny Olson]

And I'm going to make an appointment right here and now publicly to bring my truck into you guys. Because this happens every winter. If I let go of the steering wheel on the highway, Mike, that thing takes a sharp right turn into the ditch. I don't know what I hit, but I'm hoping you guys can put that thing on the alignment rack for me and get it running straight again.

[Mike Schoonover]

Kenny, we will get you straightened out.

[Kenny Olson]

That's fantastic. And I also have a few other issues that you need to contend with. So that's the great thing about your shop. Anything my vehicle needs, you got. Guys can bring it for me. And I can't thank you enough, you know, and I'm going to speak for the G L ers too. They love it too. So thank you, Mike.

[Mike Schoonover]

We are happy to do so. It's just. It's awesome. We're honored to be able to do what we do every day.

[Kenny Olson]

And that's why you are the official shop of GL Always rated as one of the top shops in the metro and always number one at Garagelogic, the website schoonover bodyworks.com. thank you very much, Mike.

[Mike Schoonover]

You're welcome, Kenny. Everybody, have a great day.

[Joe Soucheray]

The earth is not YOUR mother.

[Matthew]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Matthew]

Please do. This is a wonderful local family that has a great operation.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Matthew]

They are.

[Kenny Olson]

I've the empty ones I bring out to my shop and I use them for nuts and bolts. They're wonderful in the hardware aisle.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John H.]

Joe, could I interrupt you for a moment?

[Matthew]

You didn't even start yet.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John H.]

Kenny just alerted me to this and I quickly went to my news feed here. President Trump has ousted Pam Bondi as Attorney General according to sources.

[Matthew]

There you go, Maria. Maria just texted me me that you

[Joe Soucheray]

know who else he's throwing under the bus? That Caroline Levitt. He's blaming her for his poor poll ratings. Don't these saps that work for him realize he'd throw you under the bus?

[Matthew]

I don't know why you would go to work for him right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's quite mad, you know.

[Matthew]

What? Quite mud, you know. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, speaking of him.

[Matthew]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

I went down a rabbit hole.

[Matthew]

What you find?

[Joe Soucheray]

I was alerted by an emailer that among the many people Trump has pardoned is a guy named Joseph Schwartz. He ran nursing homes. He defrauded Medicare out of 39 million and the elderly residents in his nursing homes died under his care. Families took him to court and won. They were able to demonstrate that he was providing horrible service. They won multimillion dollar wrongful death settlements against him. But they have not seen a document dime. In the meantime, he spent a million dollars on lobbyists to get a pardon from the President. And Trump delivered it just three months into his sentence. The guy's pardon. So I thought, well, there's gotta be more to this. What are we doing here? Schwartz entered the nursing home business in the late 2000s and formed a company called Skyline to acquire and operate skilled nursing facilities initially in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Pena he sold a Florida based insurance business in 2015 for 22 million, allowing him to rapidly expand Skyline in 2017 Skyline and the related company Schwartz controlled cared for approximately 15,000 residents in roughly 100 facilities in 11 states. In a 2017 deposition and a wrongful death suit in Philadelphia, Schwartz defended the care at his facilities as Supreme Court while distancing himself from day to day operations by saying he relied on facility level administration and nursing directors. The suit was settled without Schwartz admitting wrongdoing. In his deposition, Schwartz minimized reports of staffing shortages and unpaid bills as simple business disagreements. Asked about the facility's one star federal staffing ratings from 2010 to 2014, the lowest possible score under the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid five star system, Schwartz said he recalled having a good star rating and that his nursing homes had tried their hardest to provide as much staffing as possible listing insisting that they were very, very, very, very compliant and the residents were happy and satisfied. Well, the collapse was swift. The Skyline failed to make payments for food and medical. They cut hours for nursing home staff. At the same time, Schwartz began to siphon money from multiple sources, over billed Medicaid, withheld millions of dollars in payroll taxes from workers paychecks, but never sent the money to the IRS. He admitted that what's more, Schwartz paid himself 5 million as what one federal prosecutor described as a ghost employee at some of the facilities. As conditions deteriorated, health officials in at least six states in Nebraska and Massachusetts. Massachusetts seized or transferred control of the facilities or relocated residents. In South Dakota, a vice president who oversaw 18 Schwartz owned nursing homes began sending increasingly desperate emails to state health officials, according to court records. And it goes on and on and on. It's a source from ProPublica, but you can find it in the Arkansas Gazette. You can find it anywhere. It goes on and on and on. And basically it's a story of the people who sued him for the horrible treatment their loved ones are receiving.

[Matthew]

If he's pardoned, does he still have to pay back the money because he was still convicted?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think not. I don't know. My point is I can't find any reason that he would be that Trump pardoned him. I can't find any reason for it.

[Matthew]

Well, just to let you know that Arkansas Attorney General Tim Griffin says he still, he still must serve his state sentence even though he's been waived for the federal sentence. So Arkansas is still going to put him in the slammer because he apparently evaded state taxes as well. I don't know how much.

[Kenny Olson]

Finding a good rest home and then being able to afford it is a huge challenge in this country.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, this guy apparently Failed miserably at that. Why did he get pardoned? What?

[Matthew]

That's a great question.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you can look that up yourself.

[Josh Arnold]

I did.

[Matthew]

I didn't see any.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why don't some of you people with your TDS write me a letter and tell me why Schwartz got pardoned? Cheating people out of 39 million bucks.

[Matthew]

I bet that's the quite mad.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, not only is he stealing money. Well, Trump is stealing money from us. His personal enrichment is extraordinary. But somebody explained to me why this turge get pardoned. Plus, I learned something here. If you're ever going to look for a nursing home, I guess you got to look for a five star and

[Kenny Olson]

you can't get in them. I would love to spend a month talking about nursing homes. It's despicable.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want to.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I know, but wasn't your mom in a home for a while?

[Joe Soucheray]

Never. Oh.

[Matthew]

As my mom is a daily listener, it will become news to her that we've been looking for a home for her for quite some time. So, Judith, just lay low and we'll. We'll get you in there. No problem.

[Kenny Olson]

What about your dad, Matthew?

[Matthew]

He's in assisted living right now.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, do whatever you can do to keep him out of a nursing home. Seriously.

[Matthew]

But my mom is just the next best thing. My dad's fine. My mom is. She's just. When she hears this, she'll be real bummed out when she comes over for Easter. But.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sorry, mom, why don't you think that's news you should have broken on the podcast?

[Matthew]

Well, that's the only time I talk to her through the podcast.

[Kenny Olson]

Why can't you just make room for her at your house?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

You know, I love Judith, but I don't think.

[Kenny Olson]

I think you have a bedroom available.

[Joe Soucheray]

We do, but if anybody wants to do the homework.

[Matthew]

Thanks, Kenny.

[Joe Soucheray]

Appreciate that. If any of you who still believe this lunatic is the answer to anything, please tell me why Joseph Schwartz should have gotten pardoned.

[Matthew]

I really, I would like to know that. What was the reason? And if it's because he paid a billion dollars to lie. Obvious.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a million.

[Matthew]

A million.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's. Then you get the guy. One of the guys he pardoned for January 6th got 100,000. Youth porn stuff, you know. Come on, let's. Let's be a little more careful. Don, I'm really.

[Matthew]

1-6-Pardonings.

[John H.]

There's a lot of the welfare ones. Joe and other Philip S Formis is a guy that I read about. Trump pardoned him. $1.3 billion. He fraught defrauded people, nursing and assisted living. And the President pardoned him because he's been praying a lot in prison was the excuse.

[Matthew]

Oh, that's. You're covered. You state the Bible, you're good.

[John H.]

He does not have to make restitution of any kind of the 1.3 billion.

[Matthew]

Just hang on to all that in that nice.

[Joe Soucheray]

Trump had some evangelicals surrounding him yesterday, praying in tongues or whatever they do. And he was likened to Christ during Holy Week. He's the last guy in the world I'm likening to Christ.

[Matthew]

Well, it's almost Good Friday. Great Friday. I'll make it great.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's one of the best Fridays.

[Matthew]

Make Good Friday great again.

[Joe Soucheray]

When the Easter bunny rolled the rock back in 18, the correct 1882. Not a lot of people know that. No. If you think this guy's the answer to anything, explain to me this pardon of this Joseph Scholar Schwartz. That's just one of many strange pardons that have no sense. Pardon somebody who's in the can for, I don't know, nevermind. Tom Lyman must be. He's from the traveling Lyman's.

[Matthew]

Yep. He.

[Joe Soucheray]

He reads a lot about financial issues. Yes, he's. That almost is his hobby. And I think he's invested well over his life. I think that's part of the reason they can fund on their world travels. And he sent me something today that's very off putting.

[Matthew]

What is that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, courtesy of something called Chaos creator, a very scary scenario is available. And Tom writes, I was aware of undersea cabling, you know, laying cables under the ocean for communication. In fact, in the year 2000, I was playing with a stock from a company that did it, but not to the extent of what I've recently learned. Most people picture missiles or cyber attacks or some elaborate Hollywood scenario involving supercomputers and shadowy hackers. The answer is far simpler and far older, and because of that simplicity, far more terrifying. The answer is a shadow ship, an anchor, and the willingness to drag that anchor across the right stretch of ocean floor at the right moment. Because right now, beneath the surface of every major ocean on this planet, there is an invisible web of cables, most of them no thicker than a garden hose, that carry 95% of all international Internet traffic. Not satellites, not the cloud, not wireless. Wireless cables sitting on the sea floor in some of the most remote and legally ungoverned waters on Earth. Largely ungoverned, largely invisible to the public conversation about national security. We have built an entire civilization on top of a Network that most people don't know exists. There are roughly 1.3 million km of submarine capture cable currently active across the world's oceans. When you send an email from New York to London, it travels through a cable on the floor of the Atlantic. When a bank in Tokyo clears a transaction with a correspondent bank in Frankfurt, that instruction moves through a cable. When the Pentagon sends a communication to a forward operating base routed through civilian infrastructure, as happens constantly, it goes through a cable cable. Every wire transfer moves through these cables. Every military communication routed over civilian infrastructure, every stock trade, every intelligence dispatch, every call between an American soldier overseas and his family back home. The entire circulatory system of modern civilization runs through them. And someone right now appears to be studying exactly where to make the cut. These numbers don't come from a classified briefing. They didn't come from a NATO intelligence summary or a state department cable. They came from an open source intelligence tool called Phantom Wake. Built by hacking, but legal at whatever that is. Jackie Singh and I believe Tom because he sent me a lot of economic emails over the years. Jackie Singh, a cybersecurity professional and national security researcher who saw critical map, who saw a critical gap in how the world was monitoring its most essential infrastructure and decided to fill it herself. Singh built Phantom wake to cross reference live maritime vessel data against the known geographic routes of undersea cables. Flagging ships behaving in ways that have no good innocent explanation. Drifting, slowing, going dark. Cutting off the AAS tracking signal that maritime law requires every large vessel to broadcast right as they pass over a cable corridor. Was phantom wake found over a 19 hour. What Phantom Wake found over a 19 hour window was not one ship behaving strangely. It was 16 vessels. Vessels spread across four separate oceans, each exhibiting the hallmark behaviors of a vessel engaged in either reconnaissance or active sabotage. Near sub sea cable infrastructure, anchor drag patterns, AIs blackouts. Unexplained slow passes over cable dense corridors. Sixteen ships, four oceans, one 19 hour window. There's not much more to this, but it's fascinating to me. Here's the part that should make every defense analyst and every policymaker deeply uncomfortable. You do not need sophisticated technology to destroy a subsea cable. You need a ship, a heavy anchor and a knowledge of where the cable runs. Anchor drag. The act of deploying an anchor and allowing it to drag along the sea floor as a vessel moves is capable of severing cables that sit on or just beneath the sediment. No explosives, no specialized equipment, no dive teams, no covert insertion. A vessel slows over a cable Route deploys its anchor and moves. The anchor catches, the cable, snaps the ship continues. In November of 2024, the Sea Lion 1 cable was severed. Sea Lion 1 runs from Helsinki, Finland to Rostock, Germany. Roughly 1173 kilometers of fiber optic cable carrying traffic critical to civilian communication and indirectly to NATO's ability to coordinate across its northern members. The cut was rapidly linked by analysts to suspected Russian involvement, though the evidence required to make a definitive public attribution remains just out of reach. By design. In the same period the BCS east cable was cut. Two cables, one region, one window at a time. This was not a fishing trawler act accident. What makes the phantom wake data particularly alarming is this. Sea Lion 1 is among the cables near which suspicious vessel behavior is again being recorded. Think about what that means. Someone cut this cable. Someone watched the repair process. Repair timelines are predictable. The new vulnerable sections where joints have been made are documented, amenable. And now the pattern suggests the same infrastructure is back under observation. So let me ask you. We've got a war raging in Ukraine, we've got a war expanding in the Middle east, which is going to cause incredible hardship around the world. Oil, fertilizer, helium, and dozens of other necessary items are going to be in short supply. That in itself is horrible, horrific. But looking at this cable situation makes it all look like child's play. I wish I had never looked into this. It's pretty mind boggling.

[Matthew]

It's pretty mind boggling. I would agree.

[Kenny Olson]

You want me to say something?

[Matthew]

Go ahead, let it soak in.

[Kenny Olson]

You're not gonna. You're gonna be pissed at me. The best part of that story was the last sentence. This doesn't affect us at all. Meaning? There's nothing, nothing that the five of us or Tom or anybody can do about this. There's nothing we can do about this. All this does is add to the general angst and overall doom and gloom that we feel on a daily basis.

[Joe Soucheray]

I feel it's almost my responsibility that I owe you that. That I owe you a new update on doom and gloom.

[Kenny Olson]

You do a fine job of that. You are the. You're the master. But I've known about this for quite a while, and when I first heard about it, I was, you know, upset. And I finally realized, you know what? I can still go out and shoot a deer. I can chop down some wood, I can get the fire going, heat up that deer, and I'm gonna live another day.

[Joe Soucheray]

The only thing this alerts me to is my permanent being terrified of ever Being in a sub, submarine or 20,000

[Matthew]

leagues under the Sea.

[Joe Soucheray]

Those guys who served in submarines, they gotta haul them around and wheel as a cylinder guy.

[Kenny Olson]

And what do you call yourself? Not a seafarer, but a seaman.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, what are your thoughts?

[Kenny Olson]

I didn't mean to go there. So don't take it there. What are your thoughts about dropping anchor and then going full throttle? I'm opposed to that. I don't like what that does to my motor.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what saying I'm against that.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, me too.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's just bad.

[Kenny Olson]

Captain ship or whatever the hell it's called.

[Joe Soucheray]

I would imagine there's a lot of cabling in the strait of hormones.

[Kenny Olson]

Probably is.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you know what, Kenny? You've got the right attitude and I'm going to adopt it instantaneously. I can't do a damn thing if, if the bad guys got a big ship out there and they're going to drag a cable over or drag the anchor over a cable, I guess it won't be able to sell. Send an email to Rimmer Brothers in, in London.

[Kenny Olson]

Isn't it interesting, Joe, that these bad guys can figure out which cable affects which countries and nations and pick out the right cable to drag their anchor across?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. And you can't get a TV show to show up on your TV screen because the cable screwed up.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Matthew]

I was trying to get your attention before. Just because it is Holy Thursday and the Last Supper would be celebrated this evening as the Last Supper. I invite those Garage Logicians to go to Google Garage Logic and then put in the chalice. We don't have to play it here now, but the chalice is one of the highlights of the chalice used at the Last Supper. And the way they.

[Joe Soucheray]

Were we going to be excommunicated?

[Matthew]

No, we didn't. We weren't blasphemous.

[Joe Soucheray]

Did my mother call?

[Matthew]

She may have called, but we pushed it to the cliff but didn't go over.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now remember that we were discussing the chalice the Lord used, whether it would

[Matthew]

have bedazzled or just a simple. So you listen on your own, but go to Google Garage Logic and the chalice. And then we referenced it earlier, but. Gabe, do you have that audio ready?

[Gabe]

250 years ago, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, whose full name, you know, he was Jewish, so his full name might have been like, Christowitz, but God rose him from the dead on a holiday we now call Easter. Not a lot of people know that, but it's. It's called Easter. It's when Jesus and the two Corinthians met the Easter bunny and came back from the dead. So, you know, it's a beautiful story, very important for the Christians like me. And I have decided, I'm announcing today, we are going to bring back the economy on Easter Sunday. Because God, who, to be honest is, you know, he's a good God, he's done some. Some strong things, let's be honest. His record is, like, not so great, though. He brought one guy back on Easter Sunday and it was his son, so it was kind of like, biased. We're going to bring back the entire economy on Easter Sunday. And at that point, I think basically, I'm better than God. So when we do it, we're going to do it toughly. We're going to do it with great compassion, great strength.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep.

[Gabe]

Tremendous strength and also toughness. Easter Sunday, we're going to put it on pay per View. God versus Trump. Who brings back more people on Easter Sunday. We're doing it. I'm going to fire Fauci probably on Good Friday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Gabe]

And call it Great Friday for Trump, and that's it. So let's do it. Let's get.

[Matthew]

Oh, my God.

[Gabe]

Perfect health. Let's get back to work.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Gabe]

Jesus.

[Matthew]

Good Friday only. Great.

[Joe Soucheray]

Only because they come to us all the way from Penguin Tasmania for. From the traveling linemans. It was on this day.

[John Jailers]

It is April 2nd, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1849, Alexander Ramsey was appointed the first governor of the Minnesota territory. The third choice of President Zachary Taylor Ramsey was selected after the First, Edward W. McGuffie, was rejected by the Senate and the second, William S. Pennington, declined the post appointed while Congress was out of session. Ramsey was already in Minnesota before the Senate approved his nomination in January of 1850. It was on this day.

[John Jailers]

April 2nd.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sad day. It was on this day in 1982, the last edition of the Minneapolis Star was printed. That was the Evening paper ending 62 years of publication. The following day marked the first publication of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which later became the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which later became. I think it's the Minnesota one now.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, April 2, in 2002, Nelly Stone Johnson died in Minneapolis at the age of 96. Johnson was an African American civil rights activist and union leader who was influential in Minnesota politics from the 1930s, 30s all throughout the 20th century. On this day in Minnesota, sports disappointment history, who'd we lose to today?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on this day in 1971, Cal Luther agreed to a contract for one day. I think he was the basketball coach, wasn't he? Cal Luther?

[Matthew]

Yes, he was. Yes. Yes, indeed.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, either that or football, one of the two. On this day, April 2nd in 2023, the Wolves lost as 19.5-point favorites, the largest favorite in NBA history to lose outright.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I remember that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't even know who they were playing and why they would have been so easily defeated. Thank you.

[Matthew]

G. Ellers Cal Luther was the men's

[Joe Soucheray]

basketball coach for one day? Apparently, yes. I don't know why.

[Matthew]

If you're poking around, As I said, garagelogic.com if you go if you go to garagelogic.com I told you about the chalice and some of the other great bits that we have there. But I also forgot to tell you, if you click on the [e-mail] the dropdown will bring you to rookies recipes. If you're looking for the perfect recipe appetizer main dish for Easter, I've got some wonderful appetizers and main dishes right there. Garagelogic.com Click on Extra. You will be the hero of your Easter Sunday. Otherwise, sign up on YouTube, find out that and learn more about the Garagelogic Town Council. That's all located for [e-mail] Sean

[John Jailers]

Jailers, it's time to talk with Mr. Money Talk again. And today 952-925-5608 again, that number is going to be 952-925-5608. That number is going to be a direct line to Mr. MoneyTalk himself. And you're going to get a free 48 minute, no obligation financial consultation. And don't worry because there's no obligation and it's free. What can you lose? Josh, today I want to know how do you find the balance between growth of your portfolio but also making sure that it's safe and you're not kind of going out on a limb.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, when you talk, Gabe, about faith, faith to me implies or implies to a lot of people, no risk. And anytime that you invest money, whether it's in stocks or bonds, invest money in real estate, invest money in gold or bitcoin, there is risk involved. And your Portfolio or your asset can increase in value or decrease in value. So the the only safe place to put your money would be in a bank or a money market account or very, very short term treasury. So that would be safe. Dollars in, dollars out, collect some interest. So that would be the no risk portion of the portfolio. And typically when I construct portfolios or be the asset allocation model that I've been using for a very, very long time for my clients, we typically keep up to 30% in cash and the balance is invested in companies that to me offer opportunity for growth over a period of time. The other reason to have that much cash, but it's not all the time, is to take advantage of any pullback in the market such as we've experienced over the last several months. And at any given year year stock market is typically going to have 3 to 4, 5 to 10% pullbacks. Now we're talking about the broad market, not individual stocks or not individual sectors within the in the market. So I opt for the lower end of having assets that I don't need for daily living or for an upcoming expenditure. As we discussed yesterday, we're not looking for unicorns. We're looking for steady companies that can grow, for companies that are pretty solid but have a short term catalyst that can jump their stock price. Short term catalyst, an upcoming ipo, the introduction of a new product or service is coming to market just as two examples of that. So I typically would go with recommending more money in growth oriented assets. Or as we discussed yesterday, you can look at companies that pay pretty good dividends and have the ability to increase their dividends over a period of time. So those would be in the safe category. Now sometimes you look at certain companies and you'll say, oh, they seem to be safe. My favorite, my biggest holding, my client's largest holding is Apple. That to me is safe. And I put the quotes around that there are two and a half billion users of Apple products worldwide. And you figure that those people are going to update those products every four to five years and the cost of those products typically goes up a little bit and each time you get a new product you're going to add additional services. That to me is, you know, a tremendous amount of safety. If I look at another company we discussed the other day, Coca Cola, now they sell sugared water as well as milk, coffee and tea. They have their products in over 200 countries around the world. They generate 75% of their revenues from outside the United States. And you're always going to want a coat and you'll get a smile. Folk pays a dividend, and they had a history of increasing that dividend over a period of time. That offers also what I call a margin of safety. You can look at a conglomerate like Berkshire Hathaway, formerly run by Warren Buffett, now his successor, Greg Abel, is running that. Typically Berkshire Hathaway, which is involved in a railroad, in insurance, utilities and their huge equity portfolio. Typically Berkshire Hathaway sits on a lot of cash in form of treasury bills while they look for opportunities. Berkshire does not pay a dividend, but it does buy back shares, which is a considered return of capital to investors. Berkshire would be in that same category. It's going to be a very steady eddy. Now, this would be opposed to companies that are in very fast industries or fast growing industries or high demand industries right now that would be around artificial intelligence. That's a lot different. And there those companies can zoom up and zoom back down again. So in terms of putting together a portfolio, you'd probably want to have a smaller amount in the zoomers, a larger amount in the steady growers, and keep some cash available for opportunity.

[John Jailers]

Josh, what wonderful advice you've given me this week. And I really appreciate you taking the time to do so. And I want all you gl ers to do the same of what I did. I picked up that phone, I called 952-925-5608. Again, that number I called is 952-925-5608. And you'll get the same thing that I did, straight talk, no sugar coated advice. And Mr. Money Talk himself, Josh Arnold. Thank you, Josh. Can't wait to talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks, Gabe.

[John Jailers]

You're welcome. Have a good day.