4/6 Who do you root for with the guy landing his helicopter on Gull Lake??

Summary

Garage Logic – April 6, 2026 Episode Theme: “Who Do You Root For With the Guy Landing His Helicopter on Gull Lake?”

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Garage Logic, Minnesota’s quintessential “common sense” podcast, Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”) and his merry band tackle the curious dispute of a Gull Lake property owner fighting city hall for the right to land his helicopter at his lakeside home. The hosts muse about lake culture, property rights, noisy neighbors, and the evolution of “cabin life”—all with a healthy dose of nostalgia and sarcasm. Additional conversations unfurl about the waning of Western traditions, international affairs, the reality of lunar missions, and a good-natured debate on the healthfulness of dark chocolate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Gull Lake Helicopter Dilemma (05:23 – 14:13)

• Context: Doug Schieffer, a wealthy concrete company owner, is suing East Gull Lake to land his personal helicopter at his Steamboat Bay property.
• City’s Argument: The area isn’t zoned for aviation; neighbors complain about noise, safety, and vaguely about “environmental impact.”
• Host Perspectives:
  • Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”): Leans toward rooting for Schieffer due to property rights and the entertainment value, joking, “What could you possibly complain about? That’s when you’d take your cocktail down to the beach, sit in an Adirondack chair and watch this guy, right? What the hell, that’d be pleasant and peaceful.” (07:55)
  • Kenny Olson: Acknowledges the cacophony of lake life and noise but ultimately sides with the helicopter, “There’s no such thing as peace on Gull Lake... Nothing peaceful about it. It’s dreadful.” (09:47)
  • John Haidt: Recalls a similar case at Sunfish Lake involving a wealthy neighbor, drawing parallels to past legal disputes and noting, “I love watching rich people fight. So I sided with the helicopter owner.” (11:07)
• Memorable Moment: John relays the story of James Riley, who won the right to land his helicopter only to never use it, proving “sometimes it really is just the principle.” (13:14)

2. The State of Lake Life in Minnesota (14:13 – 18:11)

• Rant on Modern Cabin Living: Kenny humorously debunks the myth of a tranquil northern retreat, describing mayhem on and off the lakes: wake boats, jet skis, ATVs, non-stop activity, and the end of true serenity.
  • Quote: “The best part of the lake is when you people go home on Sunday afternoons.” (15:30)
• Host Nostalgia: The group reminisces about their family lake experiences—more work than rest, always another lawn to mow.

3. The Unwritten Rules and Rituals of Lake Culture (19:09 – 23:14)

• Waving at Boats: Kenny admits his famous aversion to the constant, cheery waving by boaters and lakeshore dwellers.
  • “Stop waving at me, for God’s sake!” (19:13, Kenny Olson)
• Pontoon Anecdotes: The crew shares tales of dubious pontoons, floating junkyards doubling as jungle gyms, and playful ribbing about unsafe watercraft.
• Mini Cultural Debates: The team debates which northern lake is the most desirable, with Kenny joking, “You’ve got to get there by plane… and you want serenity.” (24:03)

4. King Charles, Easter, and the Waning of Western Traditions (28:44 – 33:33)

• Discussion: King Charles did not deliver an Easter message, but did extend Ramadan greetings, prompting a broader chat about inclusivity, Western civilization, and the overt political correctness of modern institutions.
• Joe:
  • “I just think it’s another indication that Western civilization is quietly and compassionately committing suicide…” (30:27)
• John: Draws a parallel to domestic leaders modeling inclusivity at the expense of tradition, “Inclusivity in and of itself means nothing when you’re excluding the whole weight of a culture.” (33:17)

5. Other Timely News & Banter

• Delta’s Fuel Supply (44:13): Delta Airlines has its own Philadelphia refinery, covering 75% of its consumption.
• Local News: Protests at St. Paul church over immigration, Lake Minnetonka’s Klondike Dog Derby canceled due to three years of warm winters.
• Notable Global Events:
  • Trump administration’s budget proposal slashing science funding; increase in defense.
  • Israel-Iran tensions and the Strait of Hormuz (51:15 onward).
• Pop Science Moment: Celebrating a statue for a landmine-detecting rat in Cambodia (55:27).
• Pump-Switching Scam Alert: “If you fall for the scam, you deserve it.” (59:21, Kenny)

6. Lunar Mission Cynicism and Enthusiasm (66:58 – 78:38)

• Moon Landing Denialism: The group expresses exasperation at conspiracy theorists doubting the Apollo missions.
  • John: “I resent mightily what the world of social media has done to space travel… I’m sick and tired of people saying we didn’t go to the moon.” (66:58)
• Artemis Mission Facts: NASA’s Artemis mission’s lunar flyby is happening in real time, but some hosts are disillusioned with the underwhelming live streams.
• Speculation on Lunar Mining: Joe muses, “The moon is gonna be our precious metal biatch.” (78:44)
• Spring Break Tangent: Tangling with the evolution and purpose of spring break, expressing confusion about its modern manifestation.

7. Chocolate Taste Test: Is Dark Chocolate Healthy? (81:40 – 85:57)

• Taste Test: Joe brings in Aldi’s Moser Roth dark chocolate, sparking a playful debate about whether it’s a health food or just a marginally less-bad candy bar.
  • John: “This is no different than a Baby Ruth bar!” (82:44)
  • Matthew: Notes the sugar difference: “Baby Ruth bar has 28 grams of sugar” versus 7 grams for the dark chocolate. (83:08)
• Favorite Brands: Group consensus that Lindt/Lindt chocolate balls are top tier.
• Goofy Side Bit: The team devolves into talking over and eating chocolate on mic.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• The Helicopter Principle: “What could you possibly complain about? That’s when you’d take your cocktail down to the beach, sit in an Adirondack chair and watch this guy, right? What the hell, that’d be pleasant and peaceful.” (07:55, Joe Soucheray)
• Noise on the Lake: “There’s nothing peaceful about it. It’s dreadful.” (09:47, Kenny Olson)
• Watching Rich People Fight: “I love watching rich people fight. So I sided with the helicopter owner.” (11:07, John Haidt)
• Kenny’s Lake Rant: “The best part of the lake is when you people go home on Sunday afternoons.” (15:30, Kenny Olson)
• On Waving Etiquette: “Stop waving at me, for God’s sake!” (19:13, Kenny Olson)
• Western Civilization Lament: “I just think it’s another indication that Western civilization is quietly and compassionately committing suicide…” (30:27, Joe Soucheray)
• Inclusivity Critique: “Inclusivity in and of itself means nothing when you’re excluding the whole weight of a culture.” (33:17, John Haidt)
• Moon Denial Pushback: “I resent mightily what the world of social media has done to space travel… I’m sick and tired of people saying we didn’t go to the moon.” (66:58, John Haidt)
• Lunar Mining Prophecy: “The moon is gonna be our precious metal biatch.” (78:44, Joe Soucheray)
• Chocolate Realism: “This is no different than a Baby Ruth bar!” (82:44, John Haidt)

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Additional Timestamps for Key Segments

• 05:23 – Introduction to the Gull Lake helicopter case
• 07:12 – Joe first aligns himself with the helicopter owner
• 11:07 – John reminisces about the Sunfish Lake helicopter lawsuit
• 15:30 – Kenny’s rant about lake life noise
• 19:09 – Waving etiquette discussion
• 28:44 – King Charles skips Easter message, prompts culture/inclusivity rant
• 44:13 – Delta’s private jet fuel refinery
• 55:27 – Landmine-detecting rat statuary
• 66:58 – Social media and the moon landing debate
• 81:40 – Dark chocolate taste test

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

True to the show’s ethos, the conversation walks a line between irreverence and thoughtful local commentary—elevating obscure lakeside disputes into windows on broader societal trends. The banter is good-humored but tart, full of callbacks, running jokes, and old man gripes (especially about modern lake culture and social media). For new listeners, this episode offers a fine snapshot of Garage Logic’s signature blend of small-town wisdom, cranky nostalgia, and sharp wit.

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For those who missed out, this summary provides a detailed roadmap to the episode’s core conversations, key insights, and those off-the-wall Garage Logic moments that keep Minnesota’s favorite podcast rolling.

Transcript

[Joe Soucher]

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[John Haidt]

Be ready.

[Chris Reivers]

Rolling.

[John Haidt]

Josh Arnold, investment. Oh, shoot.

[Joe Soucher]

Y. No, you can't. You can't go back. No. Lake out.

[John Haidt]

No, I forgot to write down the number of the show and it can't be done unless I write it.

[Kenny Olson]

1750.

[John Haidt]

1751.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, really?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucher]

On 2000.

[John Haidt]

I'm very sure, Kenny. Gabe, it's 1750. I don't know, it's. I know what it is.

[Joe Soucher]

How do you know?

[John Haidt]

Who is it?

[Kenny Olson]

1750. Who it is.

[John Haidt]

Who it is. Josh Arnold, investment consultant, brings you Garagelogic podcast number 1751. April 6, 2026. 86 degrees on this day in 1991. And it was as chilly as 10 degrees in 1979. Ice outs. A couple went out over. Many went out over the weekend, of course, but, well, not really.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you okay?

[John Haidt]

Medichaca went out on this day in 1919.

[Kenny Olson]

It went out today too.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, it went out yesterday. 1919. Jesus. Well, let's be technical on our lake outs, huh?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm sorry, I apologize. You're right.

[John Haidt]

Where was I? Minnetonka went out on this day in 1919. 1931 in 2004. And I have no. April 6th for White Bear Lake. Call Josh Arnold at 952-925-5608 for a free 48 minute consultation with Josh.

[Chris Reivers]

Hail the flashlight King.

[John Haidt]

And now, from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your flashlight king, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Succiar. Happy SM Smigus Dingus Day.

[Joe Soucher]

What?

[John Haidt]

You know what Smigus Dingus is?

[Joe Soucher]

No.

[John Haidt]

The Minky. The mink. For easterly, he calls himself Minky.

[Joe Soucher]

Oh, Minky Dinky.

[John Haidt]

On the Monday after Easter, the people of Poland and other bits of Eastern Europe celebrate something called Smegisdingis. On smegisdingus, our Eastern European friends move about throwing water on each other. Really isn't rowdy bunch.

[Joe Soucher]

Rowdy bunch there. Hey, look at that.

[John Haidt]

There really isn't any reason sport gun deal. I don't believe I Care for the spraying of water willy nilly about the countryside. But any day where you can frolic about yelling Happy Smigus dingus is quite all right with me. Happy smiggus dingus. The Easter minky.

[Joe Soucher]

And if you see Willie's dingus, there's six more months of spring.

[Chris Reivers]

Right?

[John Haidt]

Everybody have a nice Easter.

[Kenny Olson]

Whatever.

[Joe Soucher]

Nice Hillshire.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey, Nice Joe.

[Matthew]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucher]

Really nice Easter.

[John Haidt]

Honey ham.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe. Ham. Easter ham.

[Chris Reivers]

I went honey baked yesterday.

[John Haidt]

We had a nice ham.

[Chris Reivers]

Pretty good.

[John Haidt]

And I don't like ham.

[Kenny Olson]

We had a big bone in our hand.

[John Haidt]

I'm not a ham guy.

[Joe Soucher]

Does Johnny still sing in the choir at Guardian?

[John Haidt]

How in the hell would I know? I don't.

[Joe Soucher]

I thought you would know.

[Chris Reivers]

Did you look at the village?

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah. Eastern village.

[John Haidt]

Welcome back, everybody.

[Kenny Olson]

What's everybody eating for potatoes these days? For their Easter meal?

[John Haidt]

We had the A gratin.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, same here. With cheese.

[John Haidt]

Yep.

[Joe Soucher]

What were ours, Gabe? They were the hash browns, but they were covered with deliciousness. Very cheesy hash browns.

[Kenny Olson]

My point is, I don't. We're not doing mashed potatoes for Easter anymore.

[John Haidt]

No, that's.

[Joe Soucher]

That's out.

[John Haidt]

We had a beautiful Easter message from our president yesterday. He's quite mad, you know.

[Joe Soucher]

He's quite mad.

[John Haidt]

You know, God help us. Quite right now. I guess we were going to send him back to the Stone Age, but now he's changed his mind and he's considering a ceasefire. He's quite mad. You know, gas is going to be six bucks a gallon any minute. And then that's your prediction? Then planes will stop flying. You know, Delta has their own fuel. Did you know that?

[Joe Soucher]

What do you mean? They don't buy fuel from a jet fuel.

[John Haidt]

I don't think a truck shows up. I think they got their own. I don't know if they have a refinery or what.

[Joe Soucher]

It would make sense, wouldn't it? You burn through that much stuff, it's

[John Haidt]

like it's a kerosene of sorts that jets use. It's a. It's not gasoline like you get at the station.

[Joe Soucher]

My cousin Chris used to sell jet fuel.

[John Haidt]

We call it AV gas. Yeah. We have a great dilemma brewing in the lake country of Minnesota. And it particularly caught my eye because I've been through one of these.

[Joe Soucher]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

There's a fellow up on Gull. He's in. What bay is it? Steamboat Bay. That's a neat name for a bay. And, you know, a little background in the old, old, old days when the city folk went to the lake. The Muskoka chain in The Toronto area. Well, well, north of Toronto, Minnetonka for example, I'm sure. Places in the Finger Lakes region of New York and Vermont, New Hampshire. What the city folk would do, they would take a train to the lake. Okay. You know, we didn't have cars, right? And then they'd hop on a steamboat and the steamboat would take them to their cottages or camps or whatever.

[Joe Soucher]

Individual cottage, not at a.

[John Haidt]

Well, they might have dropped them off at a central place. Then you walked maybe a couple blocks to your place, Portage. So that Steamboat Bay, for all I know, that's why it has that name. I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Soucher]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

There's a guy on Steamboat Bay named Doug Schieffer who is suing the city of East Gull Lake because they're trying to prevent him from flying back and forth to his summer place. Well, it looks like an all year round place. Looks beautiful. They're trying to prevent him from arriving and departing on his helicopter. And it's one of those stories where you gotta think about it for a while. Who are you gonna root for, right?

[Joe Soucher]

Where are my sensibilities lie?

[John Haidt]

Comfort the afflicted or afflict the comfortable? And Schaefer himself, I read he knows what this is. It's a hell of a first world story. We got the world breaking out in complete chaos. So this really isn't a big problem. But he looks like he has a lovely place there. And he lands his helicopter there. And the city said, no, that is not zoned to be an airport. And I was wondering if the neighbors complained. And I read, yes, there's been some complaints from the neighbors. And then I stopped and thought, what could you possibly complain about? That's when you would take your cocktail down to the beach, sit in an Adirondack chair and watch this guy, right? What the hell, that'd be pleasant and peaceful. Peaceful.

[Kenny Olson]

Have you ever. I'm not going to argue with you here.

[John Haidt]

Why not, you chicken?

[Kenny Olson]

Because I'm right and there's no need to argue with you. But I remember the good old days at corporate there when I was outside having a heater and our helicopter would land on the building and everybody would stop what they were doing and watch it. It's a fun event when a helicopter lands.

[John Haidt]

So anyway, this guy, he apparently has done very well with a concrete company and he's got the nice digs there on Gull Lake. Steamboat Bay, that's the east southeast part of the lake. Cause we looked it up on a map and he. This dispute now has been going on for years with the city of East Gull Lake whether he can take off land and store his chopper on the property. And they say, well, this isn't an airport. You aren't permitted to do this in a residential area. So he proposed, okay, I'll build a private helipad on the property and I'll put it on the other side of the house and out of view.

[Kenny Olson]

Problem solved.

[John Haidt]

The city said no. Oh, city said no.

[Matthew]

For a good solution.

[John Haidt]

You know what? The city said no yet is what they said. They rejected the proposal and neighboring residents voiced concerns about noise safety and environmental impacts. Could somebody please tell me what in God's name would be the environmental impact?

[Kenny Olson]

And can I add to that? Are they landing airplanes on gall?

[John Haidt]

Seaplanes land there all summer long.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, what's the deal?

[John Haidt]

Why doesn't this guy put floats on the chopper?

[Kenny Olson]

There's no such thing as peace on Gull Lake unless it's at 4:30 in the morning at the crack of dawn in July. As soon as everybody wakes up at 7am that lake and every other lake that has a house, you know, they're shoulder to shoulder around these lakes. There's nothing peaceful about it. It's dreadful.

[John Haidt]

Let me tell you something.

[Kenny Olson]

All right, go ahead.

[Chris Reivers]

Especially when we're up there on the pontoon.

[John Haidt]

You could. You could certainly make the. I'm. We have to pick a side. I'm rooting for the helicopter.

[Kenny Olson]

I am too, but we're still arguing.

[John Haidt]

Okay, here's the reason this has come up before in my life. Johnny Height looked it up. One of the early columns I wrote in St. Paul was, I got wind of this, almost an identical situation at Sunfish Lake. Now, would that be in Mendota?

[Joe Soucher]

Yes.

[John Haidt]

Sunfish Lake is a. An enclave of very wealthy people. Mendota Heights, very wealthy people. It's right off Highway 10. It's. It's just beautiful. It's a beautiful lake with a wooded shoreline.

[Joe Soucher]

62.

[John Haidt]

62. Yeah. No, no boats allowed. You know, canoes. And, and it's just lovely, lovely, lovely. And a guy named Riley, John reminded me a guy named Riley went back and forth to his Sunfish Lake on a helicopter. I'm remembering this. And the residents were up in arms about this for the same reason. They didn't want the noise and whatever. And I think I must have written like I am this time. I must have sided with the helicopter owner because it's again, where do your sensibilities lie? I love watching rich people fight. So I sided with the Helicopter owner. And I got a nasty letter from whoever the mayor of Sunfish Lake was at the time. I have no earthly idea. And he was very officious and criticized me. And I just thought, well, I know I'm on the right track now. I'm cheering for the helicopter guy. And John, you found out a sad note.

[Matthew]

I did, Mr. It was James Riley.

[John Haidt]

James Riley. I don't know what he did for a living.

[Matthew]

He. I can tell you actually, it's in this story. He started building houses in his late 20s, apartment buildings and commercial space also in the Twin Cities and started the Condor Corp. C O N D O

[John Haidt]

R. See, that was back when the Twin Cities were functioning cities.

[Matthew]

He. And that was all happening in 1989. The story. You're talking.

[John Haidt]

My God, I thought it was earlier than that, but I'll take 89. Okay.

[Matthew]

And in 2011, Riley was flying to Canada. He was. He flew helicopters and planes for 50 years. He grew up right by Fleming Field in St. Paul and so he flew for 50 years. His son said he was a very safe flyer. But unfortunately he crashed in Sioux Lookout, Ontario in Abram Lake. He crashed his plane in the water near his cabin about 4 in the afternoon.

[John Haidt]

Oh boy.

[Matthew]

Afternoon there. And died, unfortunately.

[John Haidt]

I think she.

[Matthew]

Accident.

[John Haidt]

Well, you know, Godspeed to this Shafer guy. Let him fly safely in and out. I'm rooting for the helicopter.

[Matthew]

The one other interesting note about the Riley case. Back in the 80s, he won the case. He sued.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

So that he could land on Sunfish Lake. He never tried to land ever again. He just wanted to win the case. That.

[John Haidt]

That's even more of a reason why I was glad I chose him.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Now, Schaefer, you might. If you're not aware of that case, you might look it up and find out how it was that Riley won the case. Because I think to Schieffer or Schaeffer, I think it's Schaefer. He is maintaining that for him this is a property rights story. This is a property rights dilemma. He's got a number of acres there and he believes that he should be able to land his helicopter there. So do I. What stake do I have right now? Kenny says that would result in disturbance. Now, Kenny, Kenny, this guy arriving by helicopter, it just.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm on his side, but it just adds to the already cacophony of noise and drama and nonsense.

[John Haidt]

The best. I have a speech I'm about to give you, but I'm waiting for you. Just why?

[Kenny Olson]

What I don't understand about you Lake, folks, is you leave the Twin Cities where you're elbow to elbow, butt to belly, looking in each other's kitchens from your living room. Living like that. You can't find a place to park when it snows. You come up to the lake to virtually the exact same experience, only it's on a lake. You've got a dreadful nightmare going on out on the lake with the wake boats, the pontoons full of the people drunk and waving. Stop waving at me, for God's sakes. And then you've got the speedboats and the skiers and you've got the, the motorized wet motorcycle things out in the water. And then you go to the other side of the house because you want a little peaceful, just, just a little bit of serenity. And you got the mini bikes and the go karts and the ATVs and the side by sides and it's absolute mayhem at the lake. The best part of the lake is when you people go home on Sunday afternoons.

[Chris Reivers]

Kenny's rant is brought to you by our [e-mail] Right.

[John Haidt]

Let me point a few things out. One, Kenny's got something stuck in his head that resembles a Norman Rockwell piece where the guy's out there in a leaky wood rowboat with no motor and he's got the crumpled fedora on a pipe in his mouth and a flannel shirt and Norman would have painted the bobber. And there's nothing around the guy and

[Kenny Olson]

the wife with the umbrella.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, nothing around.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[John Haidt]

That, that train left the station 60 years ago.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what it's like on any given Wednesday up at the lake when you're not there.

[John Haidt]

Plus, the, the homes now that are being built on the lake are rarely even lived in. And so when the people get there, yeah, they got the jet boat and the ski thing, live it up, pontoon and the whole deal. And they go crazy. And, and I, I, I'd ven that this Shiefer guy probably isn't even there that often. I mean, golf has taken over up there instead of fishing. I have great experience with, with the, the lake place because, because you leave.

[Kenny Olson]

Why does the wake boat have to be so loud, Joe? Why do they have to play music when they're on the wake in the, in the wake boat? And don't get me wrong, I love aquatic sports. I love boats. Do they have to be that loud? Does anybody on the lake. Do you have any kind of concern for other boaters or fishermen out in the water? You all Drive like maniac.

[John Haidt]

I resent being included in this. A, I don't know. I don't have a wake boat. B, I don't have a lake place. I have a place that I might visit occasionally.

[Chris Reivers]

Wink, wink.

[John Haidt]

Where is that?

[Kenny Olson]

Over there on Main Street?

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah, up on Main.

[John Haidt]

But I, I grew up with a lake place in the family owned by my friend Leo, who worked his ass off all week long to go to the lake where he worked his ass off.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Joe Soucher]

Another lawn. Another lawn.

[Kenny Olson]

That right there is the truth.

[John Haidt]

You could not even wet a line until you tore down a fireplace or something.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Soucher]

What about Earth? Erce was working in the kitchen.

[John Haidt]

In the kitchen, Same thing. You'd have a meal on a Sunday. The drapes were closed and there'll be a big pot roast with gravy and the whole deal. And we're thinking, wait a minute, we're at the lake here. What the hell are we even doing eating?

[Kenny Olson]

My mom, one of her neighbors, is a huge landscaper in the Twin Cities. If I said his name, you would all know who he is. He goes up there and he works his ass off from Thursday night through Sunday night. All he does is work.

[Joe Soucher]

I just want to see.

[John Haidt]

And this guy Leo would allow himself to go fishing maybe at 8 o' clock at night for an hour just to decompress from all the crap he tore down during the day.

[Joe Soucher]

So your friend Leo, that's got a cabin up north.

[John Haidt]

The days of tranquility, I must admit

[Kenny Olson]

to you, long over.

[John Haidt]

You can get tranquility early in the morning. Yeah. And you can get tranquility virtually any weekday.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Yeah. So I guess we're not fighting at all.

[John Haidt]

So Saturday from noon to 8pm's a little loud. And Sunday from noon to 4pm's a little loud.

[Chris Reivers]

That and no one works on Fridays and Mondays anymore in the Twin Cities.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, where are you at? Please tell me you agree with me about the waving. If I'm sitting on shore or on the dock or even back at the house on the deck, or for God's sake, stop waving at me.

[John Haidt]

I used to write these stories all the time. I had a book's worth of these columns. The Harriet and Leo columns, I called them. And it was one of the reasons the new editors were trying to get rid of me. Because they said, does this guy really say what you're quoting him as saying? And I said, oh, hell yes. Then I was making it all up. But, but the waving stories are true. I, I, you're, you're right. It's uncanny that people feel the need to wave. I don't. I saw a guy building putting in his dock. This is a true story. He had a section of dock that he was holding up in both hands. He dropped it on his foot to wave as the boater went by. Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Two rules I have with the. What do you guys call it? My pontoon.

[Chris Reivers]

The cirrhosis of the river.

[Kenny Olson]

Number one, bring your own chair. There's no chairs on the. On the pontoon. Number two, you are not allowed to wave at people on shore or on passing pontoons. I will scowl at them as they wave furiously at me, at me, and I will not wave at them.

[Chris Reivers]

Although you are a bit hypocritical, Ken, with that notion. And I'll explain why. One of the best bits in the history of the Garage Logic podcast was when you stymied the mayor with that photo of his family on the pontoon. And you said, hey brother, what's up with that shirt? Or whatever you said to him.

[John Haidt]

One time Leo and I were out. One time Leo and I were out on what he considered to be his pontoon boat. It was a double decker square thing that looked like kind of a half assed jungle gym. And it was on some 50 gallon drums and it was. And the motor died. And now this large two story floating junk pile is floating towards shore where there are some comely lasses sunbathing at the end of the dock and they're gonna get crushed to death. I mean, if we don't start yelling, they're done. So we're yelling and yelling and yelling and they finally get up and move and it bumped into the end of their dock. It probably didn't do that much damage. And then we stopped and figured out how to get the motor running again. And it didn't go fast. It just crawled along because the thing probably weighed a ton. You know where that thing is now?

[Kenny Olson]

He gave it in the Maritime Museum.

[John Haidt]

He gave it. I think it's on a playground. I swear to God. This is true. There's a Catholic church in Crosby. I can't think of the name of it. Somehow he either took it to them or talked somebody into coming and get it or something.

[Matthew]

It's.

[Chris Reivers]

Now I'm willing to donate this.

[John Haidt]

It's a playground thing on a school playground where kids climb on it like it's a bleeping jungle gym. Wow. It had chain link fence around was a dystopian view of a pontoon boat. It had nothing to do with a boat or a Pontoon. What is that I'm seeing? What's Kenny showing?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm out on the lake on Cirrhosis of the river, going by a friend's house, completely ignoring him, not looking at all. He snaps a picture of me as I'm going by.

[John Haidt]

Well, you don't have a. There's not even a railing around that thing.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, just, you know, I hope you know how to swim.

[John Haidt]

Good luck if you can.

[Chris Reivers]

You like living on the edge.

[John Haidt]

Good luck if you can stay on it.

[Kenny Olson]

And not only that, there's no ladder on it either, so we can't get you back on the boat.

[Joe Soucher]

You know, not only did you do you wave to people on the lake, you got caught with one of the kids you used to have waiting at Care 11. They would go, bye bye, and you confess that to Pat, and Pat went,

[John Haidt]

no, why did you have to wave? That was it, though. One of the Minnetonka.

[Kenny Olson]

There is not one inch of unused space on Gull. I mean, even that island in Steamboat Bay.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

It's got 20 houses on it. Come on, man.

[Joe Soucher]

What's the most desirable northern lake to be on?

[John Haidt]

Well, if you want Kenny's view of the world, forget Minnesota. Just keep going deep into Ontario.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. You've got to get there by plane

[Joe Soucher]

and you want serenity.

[John Haidt]

Oh, wait, you'd have to get there by plane.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm on the side of the airplanes and helicopters. Absolutely.

[John Haidt]

This guy to put floats on his chopper. End of story.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, for a while he tried land. He had a floating helipad.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, that's what he called. It was a diving raft. He probably landed on the raft that was buoyed out front of his house.

[Kenny Olson]

He's got a little tender.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Tied up. Little dinghy there. And you go in, you talk about

[Joe Soucher]

the busyness of being at the cabin for the weekend, but nothing beats that dusk going down to the lake when

[John Haidt]

it's just like glass.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. With 18,000 pontoons going by waving at you.

[Joe Soucher]

Well, they're usually parked for the night. And then you go down there and it's just. There's no waves. It's. That makes up for all the.

[Chris Reivers]

Dad's kind of walking sideways.

[Joe Soucher]

Yep.

[Kenny Olson]

You know who the big winner is here? John Heights on his front step with his acoustic guitar. Nowhere near the lake.

[Matthew]

I like lakes.

[John Haidt]

Yes, I do.

[Joe Soucher]

John, are you a strong swimmer?

[Matthew]

I'm not a very. That's. I was going to tell Kenny I'm not going on that boat after he showed it because I'm not a very strong swimmer. If I fell off, I'd be doomed.

[John Haidt]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[John Haidt]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[Kenny Olson]

Lots of activity at Jackass Ranch over the weekend. My son woke up two dirt bikes yesterday. They barked to life with only a limited amount of kicks. That was fun. He didn't even bother to gain drain the gas last fall they fired up anyway, ran perfectly. That's because he gave them both a heavy pour a big sea foam at the same time he put away his snowblower. The dual stage MTD machine, we call it affectionately call it the big bastard shot of sea foam in the tank. He ran it for a couple minutes, then used that really fun battery operated siphon tool. Pulled out all the gas. To quote such bing, bang, boom, done. And that's life at the ranch. Meanwhile, here's what we're doing these days. We're buying all of our seafoam products in bundles of three. We call it the you never know when bundle. Three cans of engine Treatment, three cans of deep creep and three spray bottles of bugs be gone just to make sure we have them within reach whenever and wherever we need them. Seafoam, they do it right. Wonderful products in a world of big bugs, rusty bolts and bad gas.

[John Haidt]

King Charles shocked his countrymen in the uk he did not give an Easter message. His mother of course, gave one every year. Buckingham palace confirmed that the King would not be giving an Easter message. The palace told Great Britain News that an Easter message from the monarch is not an annual statement like the Christmas message.

[Joe Soucher]

Oh yeah.

[John Haidt]

So I guess it's just more casual if you feel like it or not.

[Josh Arnold]

Got

[John Haidt]

is expected that Charles silence would upset the Christians as he wished Islamic practicing people a blessed and happy Ramadan.

[Joe Soucher]

Oh, wait a minute here.

[Matthew]

Really?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, he did with his head. He didn't give the.

[Kenny Olson]

So they've converted.

[John Haidt]

Didn't give the Christians a nod, but he blessed Ramadan. Queen Elizabeth only gave one Easter message during the COVID pandemic, which has justly become famous as it was so beautifully crafted, said Richard Fitzwilliams, a royal expert. The King did give an Easter message last year. A royal commentator, Neil Shawn, told Fox News Digital that this year's decision came as a shock to most UK Christians. They expected a message from the monarch. I just think it's another indication that Western civilization is quietly and compassionately committing suicide, that it won't be long before it just is a complete Ramadan message.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, it might not be happening here during Easter, but I know the mayor of Minneapolis has given numerous addresses. In what language is he speaking? The Somali language.

[John Haidt]

He does speak Somali. Yes. And I, I, you know, the, the sensibilities are. Well, that's just inclusive and it's just, it's so sweet and nice and everything. B as in B S as an S. This. This is not. You're giving away Western culture. And I. I'm sorry, I'm not a big fan of. Of the Islamic religion, which might be fine.

[Chris Reivers]

And who's the one that made this call?

[John Haidt]

The king.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, but I'm saying in general.

[John Haidt]

Well, there isn't any in general. It's the king. Chuck made this.

[Chris Reivers]

But it happens everywhere where we're so afraid of angering this specific section of the society. Why?

[John Haidt]

Again, my fallback answer to a lot of this is the failed academy succeeding in lecturing you that Western society has never been any good. It's never been fair. Postmodernism suggests that every idea, every culture is as good as any other, when the fact is it's not. But because of inclusivity and this guilt that the failed academy has managed to plant in people, they believe that unless they salute the. The different cultures of the world, they're somehow seen as evil and oppressive and maybe even racist if they don't. So what happens with somebody like Chuck, who's never been a sharp pencil in the drawer anyway? Whatever, Chuck. People like Chuck, they go overboard. They overcorrect. Trump, who's quite mad, you know, he's one of the world's great overcorrectors, because a lot of the reasons people wanted him as president, he addressed. But he overcorrects. He goes way too far. Way too far. Anyway, that's what Chuck did. And now the Christians in the UK are left wondering what the hell,

[Kenny Olson]

you

[John Haidt]

know, Easter is certainly a Christian celebration, and to have the King just wish a happy and blessed Ramadan threw them free a loop.

[Kenny Olson]

And do you think he's smart enough to have a motivation?

[John Haidt]

No, I think. I think he's just. He's just one of these saps that's fallen for this idea that he better be inclusive.

[Kenny Olson]

Right?

[John Haidt]

But inclusivity in and of itself means nothing when you're excluding the whole weight of a culture.

[Kenny Olson]

Right? That's all. That's always what happens with.

[John Haidt]

Yeah,

[Kenny Olson]

look at her. Oh, my goodness.

[John Haidt]

The Queen. Oh, I love the Queen. Oh, come on. I just thought the Queen was prime. What, are you kidding me? 250 years ago, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, whose full name, you know, he was. He was Jewish, so his full name might have been, like, Christowitz, but God rose him from the dead on a

[Joe Soucher]

holiday we now call Easter.

[John Haidt]

A lot of people know that, but it's.

[Matthew]

It's called Easter.

[John Haidt]

It's when Jesus and the two Corinthians

[Matthew]

met the Easter bunny and came back from the dead.

[John Haidt]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucher]

He's quite mad, you know, not the Easter bunny.

[Kenny Olson]

It just seems to me that the King is just increasing tensions with this little speech yesterday.

[John Haidt]

And I think, I think that he thinks he's not. He probably thinks that he was doing this calming the waters, grandiose gesture of inclusiveness. And hell, there's already Sharia courts in the uk.

[Kenny Olson]

Yep.

[John Haidt]

And there'll be more. And that's a mistake. But they just keep making the same mistake.

[Kenny Olson]

You're a fan of Camilla.

[John Haidt]

Oh, I thought you meant the Chuck's mom.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, she's. No, she's a.

[John Haidt]

No. Camilla looks like she should be chewing on some hay out in the pasture. Right.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you. Boy, that really threw me for a blue.

[John Haidt]

No, I, I'm not a Camilla fan, but I, I, I love the Queen. I was in England once when the Queen made her Christmas, delivered her Christmas message, and I was watching it with a group of people who were terribly amused by it because it was the least animated thing you've ever seen. Oh, she's very stiff, very formal.

[Joe Soucher]

Got it.

[John Haidt]

And, well.

[Chris Reivers]

Is that what you want out of the Queen?

[John Haidt]

Very well.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[John Haidt]

But it was, was ridiculous English. Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

I bet she wasn't, though. In private quarters. You get her in the palace bowling alley, get a couple of Coors lights in her.

[John Haidt]

Oh, her and her mom threw down that good stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Doing Marlboro lights, cursing like a sailor. I bet she was fun.

[Chris Reivers]

What would the drink of choice be

[Matthew]

for the royal family?

[John Haidt]

Well, they got up to that castle in Scotland, they let their hair down.

[Chris Reivers]

Sure.

[John Haidt]

You know, boom, out there, they got the Jameson.

[Chris Reivers]

How did they arrive?

[John Haidt]

You know, one of those leather pouches, you know, with the, like they were hunting or whatever. They arrived by train, the royal train.

[Joe Soucher]

I bet they had some good Scotch too.

[Kenny Olson]

I bet I hear tell they like to drink Guinness because you can have it for breakfast and drink Guinness all day with no side effects.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, because it's not strong.

[Kenny Olson]

No, not at all.

[John Haidt]

It's a wonderful beer. It's 4%, isn't it?

[Matthew]

Yeah, I think it's 3.

[John Haidt]

2 or 3.

[Matthew]

Something good or 3. 7.

[John Haidt]

I've never been a Guinness guy. Oh, I love, Never liked it.

[Kenny Olson]

I put it on my pancake cake.

[Chris Reivers]

I love watching it poured, though.

[John Haidt]

It doesn't do anything for you. That's what I didn't like.

[Kenny Olson]

It tastes good.

[John Haidt]

It, it's not a bad taste. I just put it on my ice cream. A kid of a kid I used to have just got back from Ireland and he, he, he Went into the pub to have a Guinness and apparently it's different there. It's much fresher. It was just made down the street.

[Joe Soucher]

Make it. Yeah, make it right down the spot.

[Chris Reivers]

Another one off. Study.

[Joe Soucher]

No, these.

[John Haidt]

These young people, you know, they do weird stuff. He went to Ireland for the weekend and back.

[Joe Soucher]

Do you know that it's about half the price to go to Europe versus go to a exotic location down in the Caribbean or Florida. You can save a bleep load of money.

[John Haidt]

Did I ask you this on the air? When are the airlines going to not be able to afford jet fuel?

[Joe Soucher]

You asked that off the air, but I don't know. I don't know how they're stockpiled, but everybody has their number. I don't know how high they can make it. I don't know how high they can.

[John Haidt]

What if gas got to $10 a gallon?

[Joe Soucher]

Well, that would be handed on to consumers.

[John Haidt]

But I said, what if it got to $10 a gallon? A ticket to Chicago would cost you $1,000 to fly. Well, maybe it already does.

[Joe Soucher]

Would it be cheaper to drive? You're still paying 10 bucks a gallon.

[John Haidt]

I don't know what my number's going to be. I mean, it's. At a certain point, if he's quite mad, you know, completely ruins everything and this invasion of Iraq backfires and the world economy tanks, then it might be a scenario where. What difference does it make what gas costs? Because there'll be no job to go to anyway.

[Chris Reivers]

That's a good point.

[Joe Soucher]

Okay, yeah, tough to argue with that.

[John Haidt]

I mean, who's going to go. If gas hits 10 bucks a gallon, there'll be a domino effect of so many things closing and ending that. What need would you have to go fill up your car for 150 bucks?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm gonna have to start walking to work. Well, that's about 100 yards.

[John Haidt]

100 yards?

[Matthew]

I gotta go down two flights of stairs.

[Kenny Olson]

That's tough, John. It's tough.

[John Haidt]

Well, I'm entering scooter season and I can do 75 miles on one gallon.

[Kenny Olson]

Nice.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucher]

Will you ride it here?

[John Haidt]

If gas. If gas got to 10 bucks a gallon, I would start riding a scooter.

[Chris Reivers]

So at least do us one favor, though. When that day does arrive, will you give me. Give Matthew and I a heads up so we can greet you downstairs?

[Kenny Olson]

I want to know, are you going to use that old skanky mountain man knapsack thing that you carry around in both arms? Are you gonna get.

[John Haidt]

No, that's my briefcase.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you Gonna get yourself a backpack like the rest of us.

[John Haidt]

I don't, I don't have a backpack. I. I might have to scooter purposes.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah, I got a nice Lululemon back

[John Haidt]

because there was all place to store it.

[Kenny Olson]

I've never seen a guy that carries briefcase cradling it. Yeah, it's firewood.

[Joe Soucher]

The way he carries it.

[John Haidt]

Here's what they're talking about.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah, please go.

[Kenny Olson]

He's gonna go get it. I don't know that it has a shoulder loop or even a handle.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah, it's got a shoulder loop, but he, he doesn't want to wear it

[Kenny Olson]

like that thing was born before World War II.

[Joe Soucher]

But the handles on it, even though they're reinforced, they're. They're rubbed down to a nub, I think. I can't believe the thing still.

[John Haidt]

You know what that thing is? It's a computer bag.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, it's like mastodon leather. Leather. It's really, really not that rich.

[Joe Soucher]

Corinthian leather.

[Chris Reivers]

The nice thing too is Kenny at the end of the day when, when Joe relieves himself before he leaves for the day, if Matthew sees the bag sitting in the hallway, he'll go hide it.

[John Haidt]

That's been a lot of fun because a lot of times I've been in a hurry to get some somewhere and I can't find the bag.

[Joe Soucher]

That's why I do it.

[Kenny Olson]

That runs in the family. His brother John used to unplug Orville's vacuum because orville had about 200 yards of extension cord.

[John Haidt]

This by brother Johnny.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, he'd be down. Orville would be down the hall and around the corner and John would walk by and unplug his vacuum. You could hear Orville way off in the distance. Hey.

[Joe Soucher]

Joe's brother John was also the master of turning off the light in the men's room when he left. Regardless of whatever business you were doing,

[John Haidt]

I didn't suffer that indignity. Why don't we take a time out and return with. Well, with me all the American Experiment.

[Chris Reivers]

Let's talk to me here.

[John Haidt]

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[Joe Soucher]

Huh?

[Kenny Olson]

Here's a man who spends hours in

[John Haidt]

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[Kenny Olson]

Do what now?

[John Haidt]

I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reivers]

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[John Haidt]

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[Matthew]

Thank you, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. Before I get to news, one item you mentioned earlier that caught my attention, Joe, the Delta Airlines thing. They do have their own oil refinery. They started in 2012 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

[John Haidt]

I'll be damned.

[Matthew]

It produces jet fuel and exchanges other products that it makes with fuel for more fuel.

[John Haidt]

Huh.

[Matthew]

So they, they cover about 75% of their fuel consumption just with that one refinery producing about 200,000 barrels per day. And most of it goes to its eastern hubs.

[John Haidt]

I'll be darned.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a Henry Ford way of doing business, isn't it?

[John Haidt]

Well, but they'll still. But it'll still affect them because they have to pay more for the raw product.

[Matthew]

In news, police arrested one person yesterday after protesters disrupted Easter service at the same church in St. Paul that was targeted by anti ICE demonstrators earlier this year. The St. Paul Police Department says a group of protesters arrived outside City's church, located about a block from Snelling Avenue along summit just after 8:30 in the morning. Some of the protesters were yelling loudly and others using a block blowhorn to make noise outside the church. Officers who were working overtime at the church told protesters to stop or face citations and possible arrest for interfering with a religious observance. Police say most of the group did comply and left, but one woman continued and was taken into custody.

[John Haidt]

Well, she's no different than a Trumper lady. Shut up, lady.

[Matthew]

Back in January, a group of around 40 people protesting anti immigration enforcement interrupted a Sunday service at City's church, where one of the pastors is a local ice official. The U.S. department of justice has said it is investigating that protest still and has charged more than three dozen people with conspiracy against rights and injuring, intimidating and interfering with the exercise of the right of religious freedom at a place of worship.

[Kenny Olson]

Did you mention she was from Stevens Point?

[Matthew]

I did not.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

She's not even made a little road trip, did she? Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew]

Thousands gathered at the Basilica of St. Mary for Easter Mass and the final upstairs service before they start a year long restoration that'll move worship downstairs. Van Parries, The Basilica of St. Mary's Director of Liturgy and sacred art, said the church is showing signs of age. The basilica first opened in 1914, has reportedly not gone through a restoration since 1950. Van Parry said the project will bring back decorative painting that was part of the church when it first opened. It will also include cleaning the building stone, adding new plaster and paint, a new altar, new doors and a new audio system. Van Perry said every square inch of the basilica will be touched up and the work should take about one year. He said all 45 million for the project will come from parishioners. The church said it has raised $35 million of the planned 45 million and is still looking for donations. In a letter last month urging federal officials to fund research into long Covid, U.S. rep. Pete Stauber revealed he dealt for years with the chronic condition, which could leave patients with debilitating symptoms well after a coronavirus infection in a March 9 letter to National Institutes of Health Director Jay Bhattacharya, the northeastern Minnesota Republican said he struggled with symptoms like vertigo, carpal tunnel syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, hearing and sight deterioration before a diagnosis of Long Covid. But the treatment protocol that followed helped symptoms subside within six weeks, he said, quote, I truly believe this diagnosis and treatment saved my life. Now he's urging the NIH to continue funding research and trials into Long Covid and its potential treatments. Stauber's office declined an interview with the Duluth News Tribune. It did not respond to a list of emailed questions about his experience with Long Covid and his advocacy for treatment. The letter represents the most the congressman has shared about his experience with COVID 19, the respiratory virus U.S. forest Service research and development facilities in Grand Rapids and Ely are slated for closure an announcement last week by the U.S. department of Ag, of which the Forest Service is a part, offered few details on what the facilities were, aside from their location. There are several experimental forests in the Chippewa National Forest near Grand Rapids and one in the Superior National Forest near Ely, as well as remote monitoring equipment that could fall under the research and development umbrella.

[Kenny Olson]

You can find some serenity up there, boys.

[Matthew]

And Discouraged by three consecutive cancellations, the organizers of the Lake Minnetonka Klondike Dog Derby have decided to retire the event. Nearly a decade ago, a vision for an annual sled dog race on the Metro's largest lake launched the Klondike Dog Derby into motion. The inaugural iteration in 2020 was a huge hit for host city Excelsior. But much like a sled team, it lost Momentum. First came Covid 19's pandemic, wiping out the 2021 Derby. Two more races ran successfully in 2022 and 2023, bringing thousands of visitors to town. But those races would be the last three straight winters from 2024 through this year yielded insufficient ice thickness and snow cover on Lake Minnetonka in time for the race scheduled for February in each year.

[John Haidt]

BS There was plenty of ice. There was trucks driving around out there. Who you kidding?

[Matthew]

Let's take a quick break here and hear from Mr. Reaver.

[Chris Reivers]

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[John Haidt]

Johnny.

[Matthew]

Thank you. Midnight Rider.

[Chris Reivers]

I only got one more Silver dollar, Joe.

[Matthew]

President Trump yesterday made an expletive laden new threat to escalate strikes on Iran and its infrastructure if it doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz by his deadline after American forces rescued an aviator whose Iran downed plane fell behind enemy lines. A defiant Iran struck infrastructure targets afterwards in neighboring Gulf Arab countries, challenging the US Account of the rescue and threatened to restrict another heavily used waterway in the region. This morning, Iran rejected the latest ceasefire proposal and instead said it wants a permanent end to the war. In his social media post yesterday, the President vowed to hit Iran's power plants and bridges and said the country would be living in hell if the Strait of Hormuz, crucial for global trade, isn't opened by Tuesday. The two most surprising parts of what he posted while he used the Effenheimer he told them to open the bleeping straight, you crazy bastards.

[John Haidt]

He followed with quite mad, you know.

[Matthew]

And then he answered with and is this. Was this meant to be sarcasm? Because I can't tell and I don't know. He ended it with praise be to Allah.

[John Haidt]

I think he's given the needle.

[Matthew]

That's what I thought right away when I read it. I don't know how else that could be taken.

[John Haidt]

Couldn't you know, ask yourself an interesting question? It's a game you can play with yourself. Of all the people that you personally know and have met in your life, have you ever met or known anyone like Trump? I personally have not.

[Joe Soucher]

No, not even close.

[John Haidt]

I have not ever met anyone that has the characteristics of Trump.

[Joe Soucher]

And we've met some pretty arrogant people.

[John Haidt]

Not even close.

[Matthew]

But it doesn't even compare everything about him. I think what you're saying, Rook, is, is exaggerated. I mean, I've known people with some of those traits.

[John Haidt]

I haven't.

[Matthew]

Not to this extent.

[Joe Soucher]

I would agree.

[John Haidt]

John Kenny, have you ever met anyone like him?

[Kenny Olson]

Just Matthew. Old Matthew?

[Matthew]

Never.

[John Haidt]

I never have.

[Matthew]

Meanwhile, Israel struck a key petrochemical plant at Iran's mass of South Pas natural gas field today, killing two paramilitary Revolutionary Guard commanders and potentially challenging a new 45 day cease fire proposal for Tehran and the U.S. as President Trump's ultimatum looms within a few hours. The gas field attack was aimed at eliminating a major source of revenue for Iran. According to Israel, the field is critical to Iran's electricity production, but the strike appeared to be separate from the president's threat to to target those power plants and bridges. For the second straight year, the Trump administration is asking Congress to make deep cuts to federal research spending that includes a 55% cut to the National Science Foundation, a 23% cut to NASA, a 15% cut to the Department of Energy, and a 12% cut to the National Institutes of Health. Meanwhile, the budget proposals boosting defense spending to one and a half trillion dollars, a 44% increase. Earlier this year, lawmakers large year rejected similarly steep cuts to signs that Trump requested for 2026. But it'll be months before it becomes clear whether Congress will resist these new requests for cuts, which would take effect when the 2027 fiscal year begins on the 1st of October. Steve Bannon, longtime ally of President Trump, won a Supreme Court order this morning that's expected to lead to the dismissal of his criminal conviction for refusing to testify to Congress. Prodded by the Trump administration, the justices threw out an appellate ruling upholding Bannon's conviction for defying a subpoena from the House committee that investigated the January 6, 2021 attack by a mob of Trump supporters on the US Capitol. The move frees a trial judge to act on the Republican administration's pending request to dismiss Bannon's conviction and indictment in Cambodia. They unveiled the world's first statue honoring a landmine detecting rat on Friday. This is kind of an amazing story. Magawa the rat.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Lived to 8 years old.

[John Haidt]

Is that long for a rat? Yeah, I don't know. Especially a mind sniffing rat.

[Matthew]

Well, interestingly enough, enough identified more than 100 landmines and other explosives. From 2016 to 2021, there are more than 100 African pouched rats deployed in landmine detection operations across the world. To identify mines. The rats are trained to sniff out explosive compounds like tnt. The rats aren't heavy enough to trigger detonation of the mines. In Cambodia, up to 6 million landmines remain undiscovered.

[John Haidt]

Wow.

[Matthew]

Most planted during three decades of conflict. From the Vietnam war era through Cambodia's civil war. Since 1979, about 20,000 people have been killed in Cambodia. 40,000 wounded as a result of mines. Magawa cleared more than 1 1/2 million square feet of land.

[John Haidt]

Wow.

[Matthew]

And was capable of searching a tenant quart sized area within about 20 minutes. For a human to do that, it would take about four days.

[John Haidt]

They need to load up the strait of Hormuz with these. With rats.

[Joe Soucher]

Throw them in a lifeguard.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. I wonder what.

[Kenny Olson]

What the training process is like.

[John Haidt]

What would the rat do? I wonder when the rat discovered a mine, did he just sit there and point to order?

[Joe Soucher]

Like when you're at the coven, I guess.

[Kenny Olson]

Or like a dog where they sit down or.

[Josh Arnold]

Or something.

[John Haidt]

Maybe that's it. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

That's fascinating.

[Matthew]

I know they built a statue of them.

[John Haidt]

Was it bronze?

[Matthew]

I. I don't know that. I'm not sure.

[Kenny Olson]

It wouldn't stop me from shooting him if I saw him.

[John Haidt]

I mean, come on, you'd be wasting a good rat.

[Matthew]

I think I saw dead rat walking the dog the other day, by the way. Not. Not that. The cypropol of anything. Right in the middle of the street.

[John Haidt]

Street. A dead rat walking the dog.

[Matthew]

I was. I'm sorry? I was walking the dog.

[John Haidt]

Oh, and you saw a dead rat walking the dog? Oh my. Well, that was a poorly structured sentence.

[Matthew]

It really was.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you sure it wasn't a muskrat?

[John Haidt]

No, no, Kenny. He was walking his dog when he saw a rat. I think a muskrat maybe.

[Chris Reivers]

Sally, it looked.

[Matthew]

It didn't look like a muskrat, Kenny, from what I know.

[John Haidt]

Okay. Did the dog react?

[Matthew]

I ushered the dog quickly away before he even noticed it.

[John Haidt]

I see.

[Kenny Olson]

Larry.

[John Haidt]

Larry. Larry wouldn't have done anything anyway.

[Kenny Olson]

Larry's leaving a true a trail of drool all over and over. You can follow Larry wherever he goes.

[Matthew]

As gas prices climb, so does a scam called pump switching.

[John Haidt]

Oh, God.

[Matthew]

Cost you money. Here's how it works. A scammer approaches you at the pump and offers to help you with your gas.

[John Haidt]

No, I don't need any help.

[Chris Reivers]

Whether you accept familiar with the process, I'm good.

[Matthew]

Whether you accept or not, the goal is the same. Get control of the nozzle and avoid properly returning it when you're done. That leaves your credit card transaction active. The scammer then turns to the next driver who pulls in and offers to fill their tank for 20 bucks cash. Oh, they pocket the money while your card absorbs the charges. They won't stop till either pump shuts off or your card hits its limit. Police in Lower Marion Township outside Philadelphia say they've been having lots of problems with this lately. They're warning that the scammers can be aggressive and may physically grab the nozzle out of your hands. Victims often don't notice the extra charges until days or weeks later, by which point, point the scammer is long gone.

[Kenny Olson]

I. I might say something here that might be taken the wrong way, but if you fall for the scam, you deserve it. Seriously.

[John Haidt]

I. I agree. I agree.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

I can't argue.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Of all the things you can do in middle life to live longer, you know, eat better, sleep less or sleep more, stress less.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

The best thing might be to pick up a tennis racket.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, I tried that.

[Joe Soucher]

That's too much running.

[Kenny Olson]

What do you do with the tennis rack?

[John Haidt]

You play tennis?

[Kenny Olson]

Really?

[Matthew]

25 year old Danish study, not old 25 year Danish study found that tennis players lived an average of 9.7 years longer than people who didn't exercise. Nearly three times the gain seen in joggers and more than six times the benefit associated with going to the gym. And a study published in BMJ Medicine in January, drawing on 110,000 people over 30 years, found that playing tennis was associated with a 15% lower risk of dying. The strongest results for any single form of exercise. Dr. Mark Kovacs, an expert in sports science who has worked with Grand Slam champions and Olympic medalists, says it makes sense because tennis is one of the most complete flights forms of full body conditioning available. The movements are multi planular and rotational, far more functional than linear exercises most people do in a gym. The sport constantly gets you to twist, lunge sideways, change directions. The kind of coordinated whole body movement that keeps you mobile and steady on your feet as you get older. Dr. Babette Plum, the chief medical officer of the Royal Dutch Lawn Tennis association, says it's also very heart healthy. Constantly alternates between explosive effort and recovery, much like modern high intensity interval training.

[John Haidt]

I don't think there's anything shocking about this report.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I don't either.

[John Haidt]

It's pretty logical that that would be good for you.

[Kenny Olson]

What about that new sport, pickleball? Fat drunk people. Yeah, pickleball.

[John Haidt]

That do the same thing.

[Kenny Olson]

That's. When I was a kid, one of the places we lived had a tennis court growing up and we had a tennis. A net there. But we always played badminton. That was a lot.

[John Haidt]

Live by a park or badminton.

[Kenny Olson]

No, no, we had a tennis court at our house.

[John Haidt]

Oh my.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, but we played badminton over the low net. Yeah, of course over the low net.

[Matthew]

There were tennis courts everywhere. Joel attest to this. Yeah, 1975.

[John Haidt]

It was such a fad to be.

[Kenny Olson]

There was nothing special about having a tennis court. Most of them turned them into driveways for garages.

[John Haidt]

In the 80s when I grew up,

[Joe Soucher]

I lived across from St. Paul Academy and they probably had about 10 tennis courts. And me and my buddy Craig, next door neighbor, would go over there with the intent on playing tennis. It lasted about three minutes. Exercise just seems like too much trouble.

[Kenny Olson]

It's a lot of work.

[Joe Soucher]

It's a lot of work.

[Matthew]

We, we used to. I had a couple buddies. Three buddies. We used to play a lot of tennis, but there were other activities. Everybody's involved with the tennis.

[Kenny Olson]

Lots of weed.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Soucher]

He was watching.

[Kenny Olson]

Mrs. Well, that's how it is.

[Matthew]

Yeah, you're right.

[Joe Soucher]

Mrs. Green. You were green because you thought you could hide.

[Chris Reivers]

A lot of moms had a lot of tennis.

[Joe Soucher]

What was her name?

[Chris Reivers]

Tennis instructors.

[Joe Soucher]

Caddyshack.

[John Haidt]

I would love to see Lacey Underall.

[Joe Soucher]

No, that was.

[Kenny Olson]

Wouldn't be fun to see such in his tennis costume.

[John Haidt]

I had the little sweater and the

[Kenny Olson]

white shoes and white socks.

[John Haidt]

I wore dark shots.

[Kenny Olson]

And those shorts are shorty shorts.

[John Haidt]

Oh, they're very short.

[Kenny Olson]

Part of his bottom hanging out.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. I never got the hang of it. I wasn't a very good tennis player.

[Kenny Olson]

It's a very irritating sport.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Kenny Olson]

Love watching it, though.

[John Haidt]

I. I can't watch. It's like watching paint dry.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, Wimbledon is always fun to watch.

[John Haidt]

I've been to Wimbledon.

[Matthew]

I like watching.

[Kenny Olson]

Of course you have.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. It's beautiful. Grass courts.

[Kenny Olson]

He doesn't like 10 us but he's been to Wimbledon. He's the most interesting man in the world.

[John Haidt]

Well, nobody was playing when I was there. Oh, okay.

[Matthew]

Just looking around.

[John Haidt]

Just looking around.

[Kenny Olson]

I was at. That's when I was at the. Or the Kentucky Churchill Downs.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, there was been there too.

[Kenny Olson]

No race.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Well, thank you very much, John. And we'll take a short time out.

[Chris Reivers]

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[John Haidt]

It's the end of the world as we know it and he feels fine.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe Sushere well, I'm not bragging babe, so don't put me down, but I've got the fastest set of wheels in town.

[John Haidt]

That would be the Beach Boys. And that would be.

[Kenny Olson]

You'll see that little. She's my little Coop. This weekend at the 68th annual GTSA. Did I say that right? GSTA Rod and Custom Spectacular. It's right around the corner. Here it comes. This weekend, Canterbury Park Expo center, the 11th and 12th. And it's fun because it's always the official kickoff of the car show season here in Minnesota, the oldest indoor motorized event in the the state. And what's great about this one is every single vehicle in the place is invite only. Only the best of the best. We're talking hot rods, customs, street machines and motorcycles from all over the region. These are the ones we drool over, the ones we slam on the brakes and take pictures of. Drive around the block. You can bring the whole family here. The the kids have a lot to do. Scavenger hunt. They can sit in a race car or grab free Hot Wheels. And if you're into building models or the kiddos are, check out the Model Car Spectacular. With home built miniature rods, customs and drag cars, it all happens this weekend. Saturday is 9am until 8pm Sunday. 9 to 6. Tickets 18 bucks online or $20 right at the door. $6 for the kids if you're under 6 you get in free. Get those tickets, order online. GX G S T A rod-custom.com. did you get that? One more time. Pay attention. Write it down. G s t a rod-custom.com.

[Chris Reivers]

you want a recommendation? Ken? Out at Canterbury, that new restaurant, the Boardwalk, that's right on the track that play. If people are going to that show, go grab a bite to eat there. That place is awesome. Right out. Right on.

[Kenny Olson]

I'd love to go to this show.

[Chris Reivers]

Sounds like that's a really cool restaurant.

[John Haidt]

Can you eat at that restaurant while the horses are running?

[Chris Reivers]

That's why they built it. It's around the first turn of the track. It's really, really cool.

[John Haidt]

I resent mightily what the world of social media has done to space travel. By which I mean I'm sick and tired of people saying we didn't go to the moon. And I'm sick and tired of the people now trying to plant the idea that this whole current Artemis journey is fake. You run into that all the time in the social medias and I resent it and I'm angry about it.

[Joe Soucher]

Joe, that happened in my living room. My wife raised the people.

[Kenny Olson]

Shut up.

[Joe Soucher]

That we didn't go to the moon.

[John Haidt]

Well, bs I think we went. I mean, Buzz Aldrin did say that it was that they didn't go, but then that people have tried to correct that and said that Buzz Aldrin didn't really say that.

[Kenny Olson]

It was a lot more fun. Fun saying that before social media.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. But now it's, now it's all these people who, they'll post a picture of Artemis and then they'll say, what do you notice? These are just people living in their mother's basement. There's nothing to notice. They're driving me nuts.

[Joe Soucher]

Nothing to see here is what I'm saying.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, it's also Kenny when he posts an eight second clip and says watch till the end.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, yeah, I do that a lot. I happen to.

[Kenny Olson]

It's good at the 52nd mark, so stay with it till the end.

[John Haidt]

I, I, I believe with all my heart that we have four people in a vehicle flying around up there right now. They're gonna, we get to see this. Now the reason I brought this up,

[Joe Soucher]

it's not disputable that they're out there,

[John Haidt]

but some people make it disputable and I'm angry at them and I think they're poops.

[Joe Soucher]

I'm glad you're being heard today.

[Kenny Olson]

Did NASA though actually lose or forget the technology it takes to land on the moon.

[John Haidt]

These people aren't going to land on the moon.

[Kenny Olson]

Right, but did they? Because that's one thing that's been going around on the socials.

[Joe Soucher]

Why do they call it a slingshot around the moon? Do they get a push or is this, Is that just. They're going around the moon.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, if you ever watch the movie Armageddon starting Bruce Willis, here's the AI

[Kenny Olson]

Answer, Joe, to my question. Yes, NASA confirmed that the original high quality magnetic tapes containing the raw Apollo 11 moonwalk video were accidentally erased and reused in the 80s due to a tape shortage.

[John Haidt]

Now, I have also read, I don't know if it's true or not, that the original moon mission was conducted with about the amount of computer power that's now in your telephone.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I've read that a million times.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, and that, and that what they're up to today is much more advanced.

[Joe Soucher]

Well, can we get there quicker?

[John Haidt]

That's one thing I'm puzzled about. I don't remember how long it took him to get to the Moon in 1969. It seemed like they took off and they were there.

[Kenny Olson]

Here's John Height with the exact number of miles it takes to get to the moon.

[John Haidt]

240,000 miles.

[Kenny Olson]

242,000. 42.

[John Haidt]

2,000.

[Kenny Olson]

Which is not a quarter of a billion.

[Matthew]

Well, I don't say quarter of a billion.

[John Haidt]

Well, there, there, there's some excitement here because we can watch this vehicle.

[Kenny Olson]

We can.

[John Haidt]

We're going to be able to see it. Did you know that?

[Kenny Olson]

How?

[John Haidt]

Well, I'm going to tell you. They will enter the lunar atmosphere of influence 41,072 miles from the moon, around 12. Well, they did already.

[Kenny Olson]

They, there, there isn't a camera car, Joe.

[John Haidt]

They, they, they got into that lunar sphere of influence at 12:41am this morning as they continued to fly toward the moon. Then they're going to swing around the moon and then hightail it back home. This will be broadcast live, but you can watch the fly. Oh, I thought they meant we could see it with our naked eye. No, you could watch it on like a little dot.

[Joe Soucher]

Like a little dot zipping around. Mission duration, eight hours. Three. Eight days. Three hours.

[John Haidt]

Okay, you gotta add TV8 Plus. Yeah, you can watch the flyby live on streaming through Roku, Amazon, Apple.

[Kenny Olson]

Is it shot from Artemis? Because they don't have a camera car

[John Haidt]

viewers can also watch our mobile app online here. Who wrote this?

[Kenny Olson]

Just let him figure it out, John.

[John Haidt]

Okay, this is NBC. Nassau has a YouTube page. So there, that'll take care of it.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, there you go.

[John Haidt]

The lunar flyby will be more widely broadcast with NASA, Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Hulu, Netflix, HBO, Max and Roku starting their own livestream at 1pm right now. Right now.

[Matthew]

Right now.

[Kenny Olson]

Crap. What are we doing?

[Joe Soucher]

Turn it on. I'm gonna go look outside.

[John Haidt]

At 1pm Eastern time, which is noon our time, the live stream start may change based on real time operations. Keep an eye out for NASA's YouTube channel for additional live streams, all for free, including daily update, conferences used views from the space station and more. The flyby will last six hours and focus on the far side of the moon that were too difficult or too dark to see by the 24 Apollo astronauts. The spacecraft is expected to break the farthest distance from Earth traveled by any human mission around 1:56pm today. That's 15 minutes ago. It did this already.

[Josh Arnold]

So we're.

[Kenny Olson]

Dang it.

[John Haidt]

Dang it.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm trying to find it right now.

[John Haidt]

Is estimated to reach its maximum distance around 7:07 tonight, 6:07 our time. The four person crew will get a total of 252,760 miles away from Earth. Apollo 13 reached 248,655 miles for Earth. Well, there's still time for everyone. Well, people. I don't know when people listen to a podcast. If you listen to this tomorrow, it'll be really too late. But if you listen to it the next. There's still stuff to see today. We can see this. It'll and. And Orion is the capsule they're in, right?

[Joe Soucher]

Yes.

[John Haidt]

Okay, that'll be out of contact with mission control for nearly an hour when it's behind the moon.

[Joe Soucher]

I thought it was a half an hour. Now it's an hour. It was going slower.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm watching it live right now. It doesn't look like it's even. Unless that's the Earth. I'm looking at that. I don't know what I'm seeing.

[John Haidt]

Are you seeing a lot of blue? You seen a lot of blue?

[Kenny Olson]

No, see 3/4 of A. What it looks like maybe the moon.

[John Haidt]

Well, let me just tell you something.

[Joe Soucher]

When you have that lack of communication, it would be fun to be screaming

[Kenny Olson]

like, oh my God, that's brilliant. Oh yes.

[Joe Soucher]

I'm just playing. Guys, we're good.

[Kenny Olson]

Get us home.

[John Haidt]

Get us.

[Joe Soucher]

What is that?

[John Haidt]

It's hot. It's hot.

[Matthew]

That or you, earthling, are now ours.

[John Haidt]

Or. Or what if they never reappear?

[Matthew]

Oh, that'd be. That'd be crazy.

[Joe Soucher]

Give them the silent treatment. For an extra 20 minutes or just

[Kenny Olson]

give them the punchline to a joke? No, that's just whipped cream.

[John Haidt]

Just a little ice cream, yeah. Is there anything any of you can take seriously? No, not on Monday or Tuesday. NASA is relying on its Deep Space Network to communicate with the crew. But the giant antennas in California, Spain, and Australia will not have a direct line of sight when Orion disappears behind the moon for approximately 40 minutes. So it's not an hour.

[Kenny Olson]

It's tremendously boring, Joe. It's like looking at a still photo.

[John Haidt]

These communication blackouts were always a tense time during Apollo. Although, as Flight Director Jud Freeling points out, physical physics takes over. And the physics will absolutely get us back to the front side of the moon. That's probably. There's probably a slingshot dynamic into the physics. You're gonna whip her around the moon. Shoot. Going to whip back.

[Matthew]

I looked that up for Rook, actually.

[Joe Soucher]

Thank you, John.

[Matthew]

It refers to a maneuver where the spacecraft uses the Moon's gravity to alter its trajectory and speed without using more fuel.

[John Haidt]

So isn't it doing a figure eight? It's going around one side, then looping around and coming back out and go down. Isn't that a figure eight? Aren't they making a figure eight?

[Joe Soucher]

But they went around the Earth a couple times, though, didn't they?

[John Haidt]

Shoot. I thought we could see this tonight. You know, with binoculars, you could see the capsule.

[Kenny Olson]

But I want that moment that we had in the 60s where it's one small step. That's the moment I want.

[John Haidt]

Well, you believe we went to the Moon, don't you? Yeah. Yeah, I do.

[Kenny Olson]

It's fun joking about it, but.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucher]

Do you know that 95.6% of the ocean is uncharted?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that doesn't have much to do with the moon. Moon, yeah.

[Joe Soucher]

Why do we need to go to the moon?

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, that's a valid point, Joe. What I like discussing that 69 moon landing. It was 69, right?

[John Haidt]

Yep. July.

[Kenny Olson]

That. To the technology of snowmobiles, which is just absolute garbage.

[John Haidt]

In 1969, a snowmobile was primitive. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

And yet we found a way to

[John Haidt]

get to the Moon with very little excited.

[Matthew]

I couldn't hold my binoculars still.

[John Haidt]

Exactly. Let me tell you something. I think this is a great adventure. And I can't wait to see what the dark side looks like. And I'm anxious to turn this on.

[Kenny Olson]

You gotta isolate that.

[Joe Soucher]

What do you think you're gonna see? You're gonna see the.

[Kenny Olson]

Get that.

[Joe Soucher]

You're gonna see craters and gray matter and.

[John Haidt]

Can I get back to your, your ocean comment.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, it's not a bad point, Joe.

[John Haidt]

It's not. But. So there you go. To the bottom of the ocean. Yeah. What do you think that'd be? It's just.

[Joe Soucher]

You're gonna harvest something.

[John Haidt]

No, there's, they, they have cameras down there and there's not much going on.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah, but what are we gonna do on the moon? We don't.

[John Haidt]

There's really. Well, I can tell you what the ultimate plan would be. To do some mining on the moon for precious metals and what? Bring back diamonds. Believe me, do you have any imagination at all? Picture the spacecraft 25 years from now will be just a giant freight car. They'll go up, they'll drop her down on the moon. They'll have a colony already living there with bulldozers and stuff.

[Kenny Olson]

Elon Musk will have a condo.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. They'll load up the freight rocket with various metals, precious metals, boom, back to the Earth. They unload them. They, they train them to take him on a train.

[Kenny Olson]

Are you high?

[John Haidt]

No. This is what's gonna happen. They're gonna get all kinds of rare, rare metals that we'll have.

[Chris Reivers]

And then Trumpet Elon will rename the

[John Haidt]

moon and they'll put them on the freight rockets and get them back here.

[Joe Soucher]

So basically, the moon is gonna be our precious metal biatch.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucher]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

Yes. And I suppose the big race is between us, Russia, China, who can establish, who can establish mining rights and who can prove that they can land there.

[Chris Reivers]

Who do you negotiate that contract?

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah. Right now, snow holds barred, right? It's the Old west, right?

[John Haidt]

Maybe, maybe. Three nations will be mining on the moon.

[Kenny Olson]

What we should do is rename the moon and call it moon a lagoon.

[Chris Reivers]

250 years ago.

[John Haidt]

He won't be alive by the time this happens. But mark my words, the time is coming when large freight rockets will just think of nothing but making a run up to the moon, getting loaded with stuff and coming back.

[Kenny Olson]

And when that happens, you'll be long gone. Of course I will. But your kiddos, they'll say, you know, we laughed at Grandpa when he said there'd be freight trains to the moon.

[John Haidt]

They could be in the mining business for this, you know, you could have a kid that ends up, you know,

[Chris Reivers]

spring break up there.

[John Haidt]

Dock worker on the, on the freight dock when the thing lands.

[Matthew]

And what do you do for a living?

[John Haidt]

I'm buying. I'm handling that stuff from the movie.

[Kenny Olson]

I like Chris's idea, a spring break. Half the fun is getting there.

[Chris Reivers]

That's right.

[Kenny Olson]

Clothes optional, all inclusive.

[John Haidt]

This whole spring break thing, I. I do not pretend anymore to even remote remotely understand it.

[Joe Soucher]

What do you mean?

[John Haidt]

First of all, it's good for business. It's too expensive.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, isn't it all about getting loaded and then, you know, getting a little action?

[John Haidt]

But spring break is. Yeah, but it. I never enjoyed a spring break.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that's because you don't like fun.

[John Haidt]

No, it's because they didn't exist. This is a new phenomenon.

[Kenny Olson]

Wagon train day.

[Joe Soucher]

So what did you do on your spring break for real? You got. You probably got a. A week off a winter vacation at Hill. What. What did.

[John Haidt]

Oh, we sure as hell didn't go to Florida.

[Matthew]

Yeah, and there were no spring break vacations in high school.

[Joe Soucher]

So what'd you do, seven days off?

[Chris Reivers]

I can help answer.

[John Haidt]

I don't even think we had that many off.

[Matthew]

I think we had two days with

[Chris Reivers]

families that have kids that are very active. It's about the only time of the year where they literally don't have anything going on, which is why families take

[John Haidt]

advantage of the failed Academy was not yet failed.

[Matthew]

Failed.

[John Haidt]

This is an offshoot of the academy just completely being failed. They don't want to work anyway.

[Kenny Olson]

Pause, pause. Everybody take a break.

[Joe Soucher]

Are we.

[Kenny Olson]

Is this show really coming down? Are we anti spring break?

[John Haidt]

I'm not at all. I just said. I don't pretend to understand it. It's just. It's become a growth industry.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

I don't have any opinion.

[John Haidt]

John doesn't know.

[Chris Reivers]

I'm not sure.

[John Haidt]

I'm not sure.

[Kenny Olson]

Whatever side we take.

[John Haidt]

Take.

[Kenny Olson]

Trust me, it'll be the wrong side.

[John Haidt]

What do you have? What are those? What did you bring here?

[Joe Soucher]

I brought you chocolate so you can have a. Maybe we'll do a taste test tomorrow.

[John Haidt]

Well, I'm not waiting till tomorrow.

[Joe Soucher]

You want to do a taste test right now? You asked about the. The content of dark chocolate, so I bought some dark chocolate at Aldi, which is really good. This is the Mosher Roth deal. This is one is sea salt.

[John Haidt]

Well, this one is called Moser Roth.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah. Open it up. It's dark chocolate. It's got 70%, 70% cocoa.

[John Haidt]

But I'm reading the ingredients. Total fat, 13% saturated fat. Is that stuff that's good for you or bad for you? Saturated fat's bad for you. That's 30% saturated fat.

[Joe Soucher]

What do you want?

[John Haidt]

Well, not that. Cholesterol, 0 sodium, 0 carbohydrate, 4% dietary fiber.

[Joe Soucher]

Why don't you just enjoy it?

[Matthew]

Does it have added sugars. That's bad.

[John Haidt]

It just says total sugar, seven grams. Oh. Including seven grams of added sugar for 14% total sugar.

[Matthew]

Yeah. That's not good.

[John Haidt]

Well, this is BS.

[Joe Soucher]

No, it's not.

[John Haidt]

This is no different than a Baby Ruth bar. No.

[Joe Soucher]

No, it's not. That's healthy little Baby Ruth Barr.

[John Haidt]

No, seriously, it was very kind of you to stop and get this. And I know it won't go to waste because you'll take it home, but this is not a health. This is not healthy.

[Joe Soucher]

It's healthier chocolate than what you.

[Matthew]

Yeah, and the sugar part, it's way better because Baby ruth bar has 28 grams of sugar.

[John Haidt]

What's this?

[Joe Soucher]

That's the sea salt.

[Matthew]

You said seven grams.

[Joe Soucher]

That's dark chocolate sea salt. Yeah, it's good. And I mean, that's not a sacrifice.

[John Haidt]

There's no. There's no hiding the fact that it's good. Right?

[Joe Soucher]

Well, that's my point. My point is dark chocolate. I'm not saying you. You live off of this, but it's healthier than a regular milk chocolate bar. Willy Wonka.

[John Haidt]

This one, the sea Salt1, is 22% added sugars.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah. But it doesn't have the same cocoa content. This. This one here, you're gonna find is not as sweet.

[John Haidt]

Okay, let me try that one.

[Joe Soucher]

Let me try that one out. He's gonna try the 70% cocoa dark chocolate that Kenny is wiggling his toes about right now.

[Matthew]

Going wiggling.

[Joe Soucher]

Are we doing this on the air? What's going on?

[Kenny Olson]

I don't care. I'm. I'm actually doing something else. I have no idea what you guys are even talking.

[Joe Soucher]

See, now that's a more serious.

[John Haidt]

No, there's no sweetness to this.

[Joe Soucher]

Right, but that's healthier.

[Matthew]

Kenny, are you on the YouTube NASA thing?

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Yeah, me too. And it just looks like they're doing a bunch of visualization things, so it's not even real.

[Joe Soucher]

We have a camera inside now.

[Kenny Olson]

There's like a GoPro hanging off the side of the machine.

[Joe Soucher]

Oh, but there's.

[John Haidt]

Okay, this.

[Matthew]

This did break my rule to never go to YouTube during the show, if you know what I'm saying.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, Rabbit hole. It's very distracting. Don't tell.

[Matthew]

No, not rabbit hole.

[John Haidt]

It's a good thing he's busy. Is that as good as you can get, or if you. Right. Keep reading the product. Would there be different ones in that

[Joe Soucher]

There is better tasting dark chocolate.

[John Haidt]

I'm not worrying about the taste in terms of. Of content.

[Joe Soucher]

Yes, there is there's better.

[John Haidt]

Why didn't you get me the better ones?

[Joe Soucher]

It was a.

[Chris Reivers]

This one was on sale.

[Joe Soucher]

Yeah, that one was on sale. I got a. And I got to send in a.

[John Haidt]

You know, there's a candy store. There's a Candy store on St. Clair.

[Chris Reivers]

Are we still doing the show?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, we are, and I'm trying to get to something. All right. On St. Clair in Cleveland, there's a candy store.

[Joe Soucher]

Regina.

[John Haidt]

Would they have the real stuff?

[Joe Soucher]

Yes, if they're good. Regina's. What? Because they've been here for 100 years?

[John Haidt]

Only because they come to us.

[Josh Arnold]

Wait a minute.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait, wait. Since you're talking about Matthew, what was the chalk that you always used? Was it Lind? Lind or Lyn?

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, yeah, Lint.

[Joe Soucher]

The L, I, N, D, T that

[Kenny Olson]

has the little round balls.

[John Haidt]

They are.

[Joe Soucher]

That's the best ever.

[Kenny Olson]

Best thing ever.

[Joe Soucher]

Those are delicious.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

This sea salt's tough to be.

[Joe Soucher]

It's tough to beat. And there's also hot chocolate, too. Chocolate with.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't.

[John Haidt]

Peppers.

[Joe Soucher]

Ghost peppers in there.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

I got you some in Mexico.

[John Haidt]

I'm not doing that.

[Joe Soucher]

I love. Oh, it's good. Feel the burn.

[Kenny Olson]

Nobody's doing that, Matthew.

[Joe Soucher]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

You got your chocolate.

[Kenny Olson]

Entire face full of chocolate. Doesn't have any. Got it on his shirt.

[Joe Soucher]

Discipline, discipline.

[Chris Reivers]

No discipline.

[Josh Arnold]

No.

[Joe Soucher]

Discipline.

[Chris Reivers]

Discipline. Like when the pizza would be on the. On the counter at the old radio kitchen.

[John Haidt]

I never took any.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, my.

[Joe Soucher]

I'm not eating that. And then he'd be snooping around, going left. Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Only because they come to us from

[Joe Soucher]

the chocolate found capital of the world.

[John Haidt]

From Penguin, Tasmania, Australia. From the traveling lineman.

[Joe Soucher]

I love lip licks.

[John Haidt]

On this day, April in 1808, John Jacob Astor formed the American Fur Company. Headquartered in New York City. It operated fur trading posts on the Rainy river at Grand Portage and at Grand Marais, as well as Moose, Basswood, Vermilion and Little Vermilion Lakes. The company existed until 1942.

[Joe Soucher]

What was the. Tell me the year that, please.

[John Haidt]

1808.

[Joe Soucher]

Wasn't he on the Titanic?

[Kenny Olson]

No.

[Joe Soucher]

Or a relative was. I think.

[Kenny Olson]

I think you're right. Go ahead.

[Joe Soucher]

That's okay.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Also Joe. Astoria, Oregon, at the mouth of the Columbia.

[John Haidt]

Okay. On this day, April 6, in 1851, the first known baptism on the upper Mississippi river occurred in St. Paul. Schoolteacher Harriet E. Bishop had written the Baptist Home Missionary Society requesting a preacher and the Reverend J.P. parsons. Is that a great name for a preacher? The J.P. parsons arrived in May 1849. The First Baptist Church was Organized soon after holding meetings in the schoolhouse on Jackson street, which still exists.

[Kenny Olson]

Yep, Matthew was partially right. It was John Jacobs, Jacob Astor iv, of course, on the Titanic in. What Was that, the 20s?

[Joe Soucher]

1912.

[John Haidt]

1912.

[Joe Soucher]

After ensuring his pregnant wife Madeline was on a lifeboat, he requested to join her, but was denied, allowing for women and children's curse.

[Kenny Olson]

And he was relieved because he just wanted a little piece.

[John Haidt]

On this day, April, whatever it takes. On this day, April 6, 1956, the ore boat C.L. austin picked up the first load of taconite at Silver Bay. Where were they getting the steel then? Prior to 1956, I suppose it was used trains and stuff at the mall. On this day, April 6, in 1982, in the Metrodome's first regular season game, the Minnesota Twins lost to the Mariners 11 to 7. On this day, April 6, in 2002, the University of Minnesota men's hockey team won the national title over Maine. It beat the University of Maine 4 to 3 in overtime to win its first national title since 1979. On this day in sports disappointment history, April 6, Joe. 1982, we revisit the Twins first regular season game in that dump. And they lost to Seattle 11 to 7.

[Joe Soucher]

That's right.

[John Haidt]

Thank you. G. Ellers.

[Matthew]

Yes, thank you.

[John Haidt]

Do us a favor. Put this.

[Chris Reivers]

Joe's gonna go back to the dark chocolate while you find us on YouTube.

[John Haidt]

Put this away.

[Chris Reivers]

That's right, Garage Logic. We've got a YouTube channel where you can watch the show each and every single day, starting right around noon. And on that channel, you can also see full segments. There's video shorts, there's even behind the scenes footage. All you gots to do is search garagelogic on YouTube along with all of our social media channels. That includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That's an email that comes right to you, your inbox, each and every single day. And it includes the most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more and sign up today [e-mail]. It is that time once again, that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again, right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay. Do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-992-55608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that free Yep. I use the word free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation and he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice and he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy Josh, oil is up. How should that affect the market right now?

[Josh Arnold]

Chris wanted to typical basis with oil moving up and now may oil futures are above $100 a barrel. Typically I'll say in the past as oil prices rise more inflation worries come into the picture and the Fed could get involved by raising interest rates to cut out inflation this time. However after the market selling off earlier in March we've had a pretty pretty nice recovery we'll say over the last five five trading days. Now the market did reach an oversold condition and there are still plenty of pockets within the stock market that are trading either in Correction territory down 10% from the high or in bear market territory down 20% from a high. The notable bear bear stock have been in around have been around those companies reporting credit issues or involved with private credit notably Blue Owl, kkr, Apollo, Carlyle among others and the service as software companies or software as service companies are all in bear market territory. Probably the biggest software company that's in bear market territory is Microsoft. On concern we'll say both spending concerns and also their co pilot product maybe not being up as as much as had been thought or used as much as people had thought given how good we'll say a OpenAI chat GPT product is an anthropic quad product is not to mention of course Google, Gemini and then we can add in several other AI products that seem to be taking seem to be taking share from the software name. Many of the banks are also in a correction terror correction territory. So yes with oil up you know the market overall has regained some strength but it is down since the beginning of the year. Now my what I had said at the before this year and I did expect a lot of volatility in the market this year one around the continuing resolution being passed and we still do not have a resolution around the continuing resolution completely being passed because there's still issues around Department of Homeland Security that have been held up by let's say one side of the aisle more so than the other side of the aisle. And my response really with that is hey till this stuff gets passed you guys Congress are getting paid but others working for the government agencies are not getting paid. Don't you think it would be in your interest to say hey we're not going to get paid either till we get this resolved. That's another story altogether. The other bit of volatility in the market always around interest rates. And the Fed right now, even with the price of oil up, I don't see the Fed at their next meeting raising interest rates. They also don't see them cutting either. And I think the likelihood of the Fed cutting interest rate, at least over the next next six months or so is pretty, pretty slim. And then lastly, of course, as we get further into the year, the market's volatility could increase around the midterm election. That said, we're now in the time, we'll say the quiet period of time for earnings start coming in beginning next week. And we also have taxes due April, April 15th. Now you can still, how's this for, for a nice thing, you still have until the time you file your taxes to fully fund your tax deductible IRA or svp. If you haven't done that for, for the previous year. And that to me is a, is a big help for still reducing tax. Fund, fund, fund that ira. And when you fund the Iraq, my suggestion is buy growth stock. Even with the volatility in the marketplace, you should be well rewarded. Now some interesting companies that you know have been doing well with all this volatility are companies around the options market such as the Chicago Board of Options Exchange, CBOE and another market maker Virtue. Not to mention of course Natural, NASDAQ and the Inner Intercontinental Exchange which operates the New York Stock Exchange. These four companies have been benefiting from all of the market volatility and the trading that has been ongoing. Some companies just to look at particularly as they approach hot.

[Chris Reivers]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to take advantage of this information and make the call for that free free free 48 minute financial consultation I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

We will look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

[John Haidt]

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