4/8 The state of MN should not be in the business of distributing money to non-profits

Summary

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Garage Logic – April 8, 2026

Episode Theme:
“The state of MN should not be in the business of distributing money to non-profits”
Host: Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”), with Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, John Haidt, and Matthew Vogel
Podcast: Garage Logic, Gamut Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the rampant fraud and lack of accountability in Minnesota’s government grant programs—especially the Minnesota Promise small business grants—and the broader ideological and practical failings of the state distributing public money to non-profits and businesses. Joe Soucheray and the Garage Logic crew dissect recent audits, legislative behavior, and the troubling tendency for Minnesota’s public officials and media to be unaccountable or naive about the implications. Alongside this, the hosts riff on related topics: the decline of local journalism, alien conspiracies, Minneapolis’ troubled hospitality industry, city policies on homelessness, and local news quirks.

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Main Segments & Key Points

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1. Fraud in Minnesota’s $100 Million Promise Grant Program

[02:17–12:14]

• Joe introduces “another day, another fraud”: The state’s Promise Grants program, aimed at pandemic-affected businesses, is under audit due to extensive fraud and lack of oversight.

• Channel 5 (local TV) is investigated thoroughly; print media is largely “asleep.”

• Blame on state agencies: Department of Employment and Economic Development (DEED) and politicians like Rep. Mohamud Noor, DFL, who wrote the original bill, acknowledge issues but won’t take meaningful action.

• Businesses applying for grants listed addresses outside qualifying neighborhoods; little to no verification by the state.

• Joe’s core theory:

  “They’re not capable. They may very well all be thieves... There should be state laws that prevent any department of the state of Minnesota from granting money to nonprofits or…any business or…individual. Because they fail at it.”
  — Joe Soucheray [09:03]

• Systemic accountability failure:
  The state is “redistributing taxpayers’ money as fast as possible” and cannot be trusted to do so honestly:

  “I don’t trust any government I can see anymore.”
  — Joe Soucheray [10:37]

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2. Reflections on the Grant Process, Redistribution & Identity Politics

[12:14–15:56]

• Crew notes notable concentrations of grants to Somali-owned businesses.

• Discussion about why some long-standing (Scandinavian) businesses aren't receiving similar support; the suggestion being that honest businesses simply aren’t applying or are being overlooked.

• Quote:

  “Maybe they’re honest.”
  — Joe Soucheray [13:50]

• Soucheray argues:

  • The grant program is intentionally structured for redistribution and political gain.
  • The state’s DFL majority aligns with “Marxist Socialists” aiming to break the state’s fiscal backbone.

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3. The Minneapolis Hospitality Downturn & City Decline

[16:39–19:10]

• Referencing a Star Tribune article: Minnesota’s $9 billion hospitality industry is on “the brink of no return”—regulations and economic uncertainty threaten survival.
• Few businesses expect an improved season; many have not recovered from pandemic hits.
• Jokes about new city “tourist attractions”: legalized sleeping in cars, public baths, and declining urban vibrancy.

  “We’re governed by some of the most stupid, selfish, idiotic fruitcakes that ever existed in this country.”
  — Joe Soucheray [18:03]

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4. Broader Civic and Political Accountability

[06:35–08:54]

• Critique of public officials dodging press:
  • Example: Hennepin County Commissioner Green refuses to answer questions about defunding the Sheriff.
  • Joe’s suggestion for reporters:

    “Lady, you owe the public. You work for the public. Here’s the microphone. Why are you thinking you shouldn’t fund a sheriff’s department. Explain yourself.”
    — Joe Soucheray [08:19]

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5. Hot Topics: UFO Theories & Disappearing Scientists

[26:19–39:32]

• Discussion of a growing pattern: Jet Propulsion Lab/space program scientists dying mysteriously.
• Joe lays out suspicions, citing Daily Mail reporting.

  “There is something going on. Now. Who is it that doesn't want us to know?”
  — Joe Soucheray [32:22]

• Kenny theorizes: aliens and government cover-up; suggests the truth must be truly earth-shattering.
• Matt: There’s more public concern about UFOs and "hidden truths" than about policy fraud.

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6. Riff Zone: Minneapolis City Policies & Satirical Tourism

[51:43–54:25]

• Satire on Minneapolis legalizing adult bathhouses, sex venues, and facilitating car-sleeping for the homeless.
• Joe and the crew outline a ludicrous “riot tour” itinerary and the mounting, bizarre attempts at city revival.

  “Come to Minneapolis for the riot tour. Stay for the bath houses… You can get off at George Floyd Square and discover why after six years… nothing’s happened.”
  — Joe Soucheray [52:48]

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7. Decline & Funding of Local Newspapers

[72:25–83:31]

• Joe reads and sharply criticizes a letter from Star Tribune publisher Steve Grove, calling for public funding of Minnesota journalism through the state.
• Strong opposition:

  “It should not be the taxpayer’s problem the Minnesota Star Tribune can’t figure out how to stay profitable. That’s not the taxpayer’s problem. They should just go out of business.”
  — Joe Soucheray [76:41]

• References to Russia’s state news/Pravda as a cautionary tale.
• Nostalgia and mourning for what newspaper journalism used to be.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On State Grant Incompetence:
  “They’re not capable…They can’t do it in a way that is able to be held accountable by the average Minnesota citizen.”
  — Joe Soucheray [09:03]

• On Political Redistribution:
  “They’re under the spell of Marxist socialists… The intent was to bring this state to its knees.”
  — Joe Soucheray [10:37]

• On Public Official Evasion:
  “Why not just say, lady, you owe the public. You work for the public.”
  — Joe Soucheray [08:16]

• Satirical Minneapolis Tourism Plan
  “Riot tour… a 30 minute stay at the Third Precinct... spent more than $5 million and nothing's happened… see boarded up windows.”
  — Joe Soucheray [52:48]

• On Star Tribune’s Funding Request:
  “One of the worst ideas imaginable. It should not be done... The state should not get in the news business.”
  — Joe Soucheray [76:41]

• On Newspaper History & Demise:
  “I'm lucky. I got to be in the business when it was at the height of its popularity… It was strong. It was important. It was just wonderful.”
  — Joe Soucheray [83:49]

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Other Segments & Sidebar Conversations

• Sports Talk:
  • Minnesota Twins opening day and the health of local sports franchises [18:22–20:46].
• UFO & Alien Hypotheses:
  • “Aliens are the reason for everything. Everything that happened in the Bible. All of it is alien technology.” — Kenny Olson [34:45]
• Local Policy Oddities:
  • Minneapolis council delays ordinances on bathhouses/sex venues, “for tourism!”
• Comedic Bits:
  • Listener can buy a government donkey for $125 [55:13–56:49].
  • Two men arrested for driving with a dead alligator on their car in Florida [66:47–69:32].

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Key Takeaways

• The episode is a scathing critique of Minnesota’s governmental grant disbursement systems, highlighting the dangers of public money being funneled to nonprofits/businesses without accountability, and reflecting frustration at both fraud and ideological redistribution.
• Joe repeatedly champions “common sense” as the missing ingredient in state government, laments the loss of independent/skeptical journalism, and rails against the prospect of state-funded news media.
• The team’s tone is biting, satirical, and nostalgic, using humor and local color to drive home their skepticism of everything from city council policies to UFO cover-ups.
• Underneath the ribbing and tangents is a clear, passionate call for transparency, public awareness, citizen vigilance, and restraint in government overreach.

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Timestamps for Major Topics

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |----------------|------------------------------------------------| | 02:17–12:14 | Fraud in Minnesota Promise Grant program | | 13:00–15:56 | Nonprofit funding, Somali businesses, redistribution critique | | 16:39–19:10 | Hospitality industry woes and Minneapolis decline| | 26:19–39:32 | Disappearing scientists, UFOs, cover-up theories| | 51:43–54:25 | Satire on Minneapolis tourism, city policies | | 72:25–83:31 | State/local journalism, Star Tribune funding debate| | 85:06–86:52 | Decline of newspapers & media nostalgia |

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Final Tone & Summary

Garage Logic leans on its trademark blend of cranky humor and hard-nosed skepticism, warning listeners about the perils of governmental overreach, the rot of bureaucracy, and the loss of institutional accountability—whether in Minnesota grantmaking, city policies, or local journalism. The hosts rally for vigilance, common sense, and, above all, refusing to trust the state to do what private initiative and honest skepticism once did better.

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Transcript

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Matthew Vogel]

Fireworks.

[Joe Soucheray]

We didn't know you were gone. And the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Jo Sushi. We're going to start with my introduction to fraud. I know we are all getting weary of it, but there's a I have a new theory about it. But off site correspondent Downing notes in reference to yesterday's Minneapolis City Council considering allowing people to sleep in their cars in designated areas, designated parking lots. Mr. Downing says don't dismiss this. It's not often you get a second chance to make it big. After hearing on the GL podcast that nonprofit organizations will be able to provide the parking spaces I quickly signed a lease for an office in a mostly empty strip mall in south Minneapolis, then headed down to Keith Ellison's office to register my new nonprofit, Parking Our Future. I'll be collecting payment for parking thousands and thousands of cars nightly in no time. That. That's too close to the truth to be funny. It's gonna happen.

[Matthew Vogel]

If he hasn't filed, I'm sure he will be.

[Chris Reavers]

We don't give it.

[Joe Soucheray]

We don't give it that it's gonna happen.

[Kenny Olson]

How do you get in front of that and actually do that? How many of those ramps are empty downtown too, by the way?

[Joe Soucheray]

Now, yesterday.

[Chris Reavers]

I can answer that, Ken. Parking for the Twins home opener, Not a problem. On. What was that Friday of last week?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yesterday? I did not get to this. The Minnesota Legislative Auditor has launched a full performance audit into the $100 million Minnesota Promise grant program. They've been prodded into this because of 5 channel 5 investigating and there, there. We should be thankful for that. The newspapers aren't doing anything. We'll. We'll get to the newspapers in a moment, huh? Legislative Auditor Judy Randall confirmed the audit of the small business grant program on Wednesday. This is the deal where the state will give you distribute money if, presumably if you can claim your business was hurt during the ICE surge. Randall said the audit will specifically target internal controls at the Department of Employment and Economic Development. That's deed, the state agency responsible for distributing the funds through tax forms and various public records. Channel 5 found multiple businesses that appear to be operating miles outside a qualifying neighborhood and found some businesses listed addresses that don't match public records. Imagine that the fraud is well underway and we have a state representative, Mohamud Noor, a DFLer. He authored the initial version of this program. Well, he acknowledges that the program needs tighter control. Okay, all right. He stopped short of saying the program should be suspended. He wouldn't. Certainly wouldn't go that far. So what were what we're also discovering? Is that the DHS or deed? I'm sorry, DEED officials have avoided any direct questions about this. And then today I see. And this is leading me to a theory. So I'll keep today's fraud preaching short because people are tired of it.

[Matthew Vogel]

Well, but it's still happening.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it's ruining the state, but I have a theory why. So today we learn. I'm sorry. No, it's the same story. Never mind. What we're learning is five has been onto this. This hundred million dollar program is, as expected, has fraud problems. Speaking of these public officials, not Speaking to the press. I watched Channel 5 last night out of my loyalty.

[Matthew Vogel]

Okay?

[Joe Soucheray]

And Ben Henry has been on this story of the Hennepin county commissioner whose name escapes me. You'll all provide it to me in a moment. The woman who said that Hennepin county shouldn't be funding the Hennepin county sheriff. Was it Moore? Green. Green. Green, yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Green.

[Joe Soucheray]

So she has refused to respond to anything this Henry fellow has asked of her, right?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

So he decides, all right, we'll take the cameras there in person. And he went to a Hennepin county board meeting, apparently waited till it's concluded out of his civility. And this Green gets up and starts to leave and he hails her commissioner Green. We have questions. And she refused to talk. And I would like a coaching session because given my age, what do I care anymore what these people think of me? I'd like a coaching session with these younger reporters because what do they have to lose? What does Ben Henry have to lose by shouting out at this woman, hey, you work for the public, right? You owe some explanations.

[Matthew Vogel]

You can't hide.

[Joe Soucheray]

You need to answer questions. Third rail people. The third rail people are getting away with whatever they want to get away with.

[Kenny Olson]

You can't blame the reporter here.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, there's no blame being cast, Kenny. I'm suggesting that as a tactic. Yeah, why not just say, lady, you owe the public. You work for the public.

[Matthew Vogel]

If you say that, back it up. Here's your chance to back.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's the microphone. Why are you thinking you shouldn't fund a sheriff's department. Explain yourself. But they don't do that. They're pretty all polite and civil and.

[Matthew Vogel]

Boy, I'd like to see you as a reporter for a day.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, because at this age, what do I care?

[Matthew Vogel]

I'm not joking.

[Joe Soucheray]

I would love to see that go bleep yourself, Green.

[Matthew Vogel]

Well, not a good opening line, but no.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that would probably be too much. Would you have to leave a little room to get in? Yeah, yeah, just a little. All right, now, lucky, I wouldn't say,

[Matthew Vogel]

okay,

[Joe Soucheray]

that's my fraud speech.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you need a preamble for that at all?

[Joe Soucheray]

The state of Minnesota or any governmental entity. I guess this would include the federal government because we're. The American citizen is being shortchanged Everywhere the American citizen looks. Let's just stick to the Minnesota state government. It should not be in the business of granting money to people, period. It shouldn't happen. It's come to that. They're not capable. They may very well all be Thieves. They've bought into the idea that income should be redistributed. They're under the spell of Marxist socialists. They should not. Bethere should be state laws that prevent any department of the state of Minnesota from granting money to nonprofits or granting money to any business or granting money to any individual. Because they fail at it. They can't do it in a way that is able to be held accountable by the average Minnesota citizen.

[Matthew Vogel]

They don't even look to see if the office is legitimate in the Greggs Midway building.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're not capable of it for a variety of reasons. Chief among them might be it's very well being done on purpose. The redistribution of hard. The redistribution of the income that honest Minnesotans provide is being redistributed by the government.

[Chris Reavers]

That's not what I heard, though.

[Joe Soucheray]

Gotten thing for everybody except me. Yeah, thanks, Timmy. This might very well be. Nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing shocks me anymore. I don't trust any government I can see anymore. And it might very well be that wink, wink, nudge, nudge, funnel that money to all the people in this state. Let's redistribute the money to the people who we're going to call marginalized or oppressed or down on their luck. We'll take care of it. And they're just taking your taxpayer money. They're redistributing it as fast as possible. And they can account for the success of their redistribution. I don't think they care about the success of the redistribution. That was never the intent. The intent was to bring this state to its knees by a DFL trifecta and now Marxist socialists. And I'm sorry if my tinfoil hat's on. They're winning. They're doing it. They're doing it.

[Matthew Vogel]

Do you think it has slowed down or no?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think it's slowed. No. You just have a brand new $100 million program supposed to be going to businesses that claim they were hurt because they suffered losses. Well, they suffered losses for the behavior of the political class who told them to shut their doors one day, These morons. So the state steps in, here's $100 million grant. We're already looking at the probability of

[Matthew Vogel]

that being fraudulent because people in Bloomington are requesting it. Not within the city limits of Lake street and Hiawatha.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I think it's being done on purpose.

[Kenny Olson]

At the beginning there you brought up deed and the promise grants. Have you ever looked at the list, the name of the awardees who have been awarded these grants? The Amounts I have not. There's Somali.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are they.

[Matthew Vogel]

What percentages?

[Kenny Olson]

I only have the one page of it. I would say all of them, but they made up. That's probably. That's probably hyperbole.

[Joe Soucheray]

But I don't know why the Minnesota liberal leaning politicians have decided to redistribute all of your honest money to Somalis. I don't know why.

[Kenny Olson]

Liz Collin had an interesting interview with a DFLER who wants to sue the dfl.

[Joe Soucheray]

I saw that. Yeah, that was some gal who believes the Marxists are ruining the party. Lady, I was thinking about having you on. Liz had you on that. That train left the station. Lady, you should have been arguing about this 10 years ago.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, and I don't know where a lawsuit will go, but I do like the way she thinks and talks. But I think you're right.

[Matthew Vogel]

Where are the people? Picture yourself on old school Lake Street. There was a gift shop, a Scandinavian gift shop.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is this a true story?

[Matthew Vogel]

No, this is what I'm asking. There was a successful Scandinavian gift shop.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, are you making this up or was there really one?

[Matthew Vogel]

Yes, there really was.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Yeah.

[Matthew Vogel]

My question is, if they got through George, Floyd and all this other stuff, how come they're not. Where are they asking? Why aren't they asking for money? Why is it all Somali?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, they might be asking for it, but they're not getting it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Maybe they're honest. Do you hang out at a Scandinavian gift shop?

[Kenny Olson]

I have an answer. A lot of the promise grants were given to minority owned businesses.

[Joe Soucheray]

And it was Mohammed Noor who came up with the bill. I think he came up with this in 2021. This has been around a while. It's only flexing its muscles most recently because all these businesses wishing to claim they've suffered because of the ice surge.

[Kenny Olson]

If you would have applied for that money when you said you would have, we'd all be in, I don't know, what, Aruba, Jamaica.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, no. Far away.

[Matthew Vogel]

Inger Britson's anger. Ritz and Scandinavian gifts and food.

[Kenny Olson]

God, you're not gonna let it go?

[Matthew Vogel]

No. Because I'm wondering what happened to them. If they. Did they get.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're still in business, Matt.

[Matthew Vogel]

Did they get the crappy out of them during all that stuff?

[Joe Soucheray]

Why don't you call them and see how they're doing? Mark and friends, what are you gonna buy?

[Chris Reavers]

Gift shop.

[Kenny Olson]

Give me a gift card.

[Chris Reavers]

Hey, the recipe.

[Joe Soucheray]

We got a nice mug here for some coffee.

[Kenny Olson]

I want a coffee mug with that Swedish thing on it.

[Chris Reavers]

Everybody.

[Kenny Olson]

That Swedish Red horse thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm glad they're surviving. It's wonderful. They're probably big during Sven Skarna days.

[Matthew Vogel]

They're immigrants.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, a long time ago. They probably.

[Chris Reavers]

Hey, I got this idea.

[Joe Soucheray]

The state. We're gonna open a gift shop if, if the taxpayers are ever to be rewarded for their honesty. The only. I know I can never get to the point of the state government completely starting over. That's too naive of me. But I don't think it's far fetched to say one hell of an interesting political platform would be. The state of Minnesota can no longer distribute money to nonprofits. Anyone? There'll be ways to help people. I'm not saying we're not supposed to be in the business of charitable giving, but we'll figure it out. But the state of Minnesota can't do it.

[Kenny Olson]

The only way this is going to happen is if 100% of the citizens of Minnesota actually know what's going on. And now I don't want to. You had an experience last night where you were wondering what the hell with these people? How do they not know what's going on? And the people of Minnesota need to be aware. You've got to put your phone down or you've got to change your algorithms. You've got to figure this out. Until they do, Joe, this is going to keep happening. There's such a small percentage of us that actually know what's going on.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know what it will take. I just don't know.

[Chris Reavers]

Can I attempt to help tie in what Matthew brought up to what you were talking about?

[Joe Soucheray]

Not if it has to do with a Scandinavian gift shop.

[Chris Reavers]

It does not. But this is from your Minnesota Star Tribune. Yeah, so this isn't some right wing blog.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm getting them today.

[Chris Reavers]

This isn't some Twitter. This is a story from Emma Nelson from the Minnesota Star Tribune. Minnesota's so not just Minneapolis, St. Paul. The state Minnesota's nearly $9 billion hospitality industry is on the brink of no return, according to a new report warning that years of mounting regulation and economic uncertainty threat to decimate a key part of the state's economy. The new survey from Hospitality Minnesota found that only a third, a third of restaurants, hotels and other tourism businesses expect a better spring than last year. In contrast, nearly 3/4 expected a better spring in 2021. We have not recovered since the pandemic, said Angie Whitcomb, Hospitality Minnesota's president and CEO. We are at a point now where it is dire and we're starting to see the effects of this, I think that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think this has been noted. I think it's been taken care of. You can come here for the new public baths. You can come here and don't worry about your drug equipment.

[Chris Reavers]

You don't need a hotel room.

[Joe Soucheray]

That can all be legalized. You can sleep in your car. Park that thing wherever you want. I think we're on the right track. We're governed by the right people here. We're governed by some of the most stupid, selfish, idiotic fruitcakes that ever existed in this country.

[Chris Reavers]

Kenny brought this up before, I think on the council before we started, but he had said something about parking downtown. Yeah, I did attend opening day as I almost do every year. Last Friday. Not a problem. I know the weather wasn't the greatest.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's a long story.

[Kenny Olson]

The team sucks.

[Chris Reavers]

The team sucks.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's one game under.500. Let's not write them off on April 8th.

[Kenny Olson]

Look at the stands.

[Josh Arnold]

The.

[Joe Soucheray]

The team. It's 22 below. They shouldn't even be in town right now.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a minute. We're derailing Christmas.

[Chris Reavers]

The team stinks. The team stinks about. Just listen.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, it doesn't.

[John Haidt]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Soucheray]

The team is.

[Chris Reavers]

There's no expectation. Fan morale is down. But opening day was almost that one day where you expected a.

[Joe Soucheray]

What is the point of this?

[Chris Reavers]

Nothing was open.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that's not a good sign.

[Chris Reavers]

And you could. Kenny, I could have parked at third base if I wanted to.

[Kenny Olson]

I know, I know. That's what they. That's where they should be playing, Chris. Oh, they should be playing at a town ball park.

[Matthew Vogel]

What was their announced attendance for that?

[Chris Reavers]

It was 34 and change.

[Joe Soucheray]

They had a great turnout.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, it was a good crowd.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, but did you see it yesterday? Jesus.

[Josh Arnold]

I have never.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because I want the cities to survive and they're struggling to. I am never getting on this RIP the Twins bandwagon. You lose them, you're screwed.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, I am never.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I'm not.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. Mark the date and time. April 8, 2026, 12:20. Okay, so you're saying. Wait, so you've always been pro Twins?

[Joe Soucheray]

I am agreeing to tell that we're one of. What are there. How many markets in the country have all four teams?

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, didn't we do this?

[Joe Soucheray]

12 or 13, something like that. I'm grateful that we're one of them. And given the way this state has behaved over the last five, six years, I am shocked that we still are.

[Kenny Olson]

All four of them played last night,

[Joe Soucheray]

too, and they all won.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Happy day.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, the Three of them played. The Vikings didn't play.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right.

[Joe Soucheray]

If winner took it, I don't.

[Kenny Olson]

Math is not my deal.

[Chris Reavers]

That's okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

Either is mine. Yesterday I said 11 of the top 10 songs.

[Matthew Vogel]

Only 10 to 12 metropolitan area teams support all four major leagues.

[Joe Soucheray]

How many?

[Matthew Vogel]

Matt, it says 10 to 12.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's ridiculous. We can establish it. That's not 10 to 12. It doesn't fluctuate. One night there isn't suddenly a major league team in New York, and the next night there isn't.

[Matthew Vogel]

I have limited research team, Matthew.

[Joe Soucheray]

What about swingers?

[Chris Reavers]

I'm going to bail them out. I bet one of them is because it's Golden State, not Francisco.

[Joe Soucheray]

I bet that that doesn't debt.

[Matthew Vogel]

They don't list them out.

[Chris Reavers]

And New England is not technically Boston. Matthew, I got your back, all right?

[Matthew Vogel]

Thank you.

[Chris Reavers]

10 to 12.

[Joe Soucheray]

Poop on you.

[John Haidt]

Poop on you.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Haidt]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

Here we go.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's the end of the world as we know it and he feels fine.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Matthew Vogel]

There are 12 now I found. How many can you name?

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's go here but let's not dwell on this. I got to get to some let's Go Twin Cities.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Detroit.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Chicago. Yep. Boston.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

New York.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Washington. Yep. Miami.

[Josh Arnold]

Philly.

[Joe Soucheray]

Philadelphia. Yeah. Dallas.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Denver. Yep. Not Phoenix anymore.

[Matthew Vogel]

No.

[John Haidt]

Los Angeles.

[Joe Soucheray]

Does Los. Yeah, Los Angeles. So one more.

[Matthew Vogel]

Go a little more north.

[Joe Soucheray]

Seattle. No, not Seattle. San Francisco.

[Chris Reavers]

Seattle's about to. They, they're going to get basketball back.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well,

[Matthew Vogel]

so there's 10 to 13 potentially.

[Kenny Olson]

What is it? Sports talk.

[Chris Reavers]

And by the way, soon to be Vegas too. So it'll be two more.

[Joe Soucheray]

Last week we noted that eight scientists connected with America's space program have mysteriously died. Only the Daily Mail seems to be covering this story and I grateful that they do. There's something going on that we don't know anything about. It's being withheld from us. The best reason I've come up with so far is the one Kenny came up with that is that the. And this is worldwide. It's not just the U.S. the world is being hidden from it. And the reason it stands most logical would be they figure people would just throw in the towel and stop paying bills, stop paying mortgages, stop paying credit card debt, stop paying car loans because the population probably would freak and think we're all gonna die. So now we have a ninth scientist gone.

[Matthew Vogel]

Oh boy.

[Joe Soucheray]

There were eight last week. Now there's a ninth. And what the mail is doing is going back through time. This guy died July 30, 2023. He was only 59. Michael David Hicks, research scientist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. He was only 59. The cause of death was never made public and no public record of an autopsy being performed could be found. He worked at the Jet propulsion laboratory from 1998 to 2022. He was credited with publishing over 80 scientific papers and was part of multiple teams helping NASA understand the physical propert of comets and asteroids. So the people that are disappearing are well educated people with real jobs. Specifically, Hicks was involved with the DART project, NASA's Test to See if humans could deflect dangerous asteroids away from Earth. He also worked on the Deep Space One mission which tested new spacecraft technology that flew by a Comet in 2001. There are no public allegations of foul play, but Hicks case marks the ninth person with ties to the space program or nuclear secrets who has died or mysteriously vanished in recent years. This is wrong. ALARM BELLS with U.S. national security experts. See would be my inclination to believe they might have been the ones responsible for the disappearing. But it might very well not be. They're as concerned as you and me. They're wondering what the hell's going on here. Three of the scientists had close ties to this latest disappearance. Hicks latest death. All of them worked at the JPL or participated in missions. Monica Riza, she was a director of materials processing. Vanished without a trace. Astrophysicist Carl Grillmere, 67, was murdered on the front porch of his home on February 16th of just this year. Two months ago, he was Caltech. He did research heavily supported by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. I have the whole list here.

[Kenny Olson]

Those people that disappear without their phones and without their wallets and then we never see or hear from them again. That's the mysterious ones to me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Frank Malwald, Carl Grillmeier, Melissa Cassius, Anthony Chavez, Michael David Hicks, Monica Jacinto riza, William Anil McCashland. Here, here's. This is not black helicopter stuff. If There's a hundred UFO videos posted on social media, you know 98 of them are probably done by some pranksters. Two of them aren't. I'm gonna go with two of them aren't because I just know they aren't. So there is something going on. Now. Who is it that doesn't want us to know? These disappear Appearances make that a more interesting question is, is it the governments of the world who don't want us to know or the intruders themselves? Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

You mentioned pranksters. Yeah, for the 98%.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Who are the pranksters?

[Joe Soucheray]

Kids with time on their hands that know how to do it.

[Kenny Olson]

No government. Oh, they're purposely misleading us, all right. They're getting us to ask the wrong questions. They're keeping us busy.

[Joe Soucheray]

NASA and the Jet Propulsion Lab will not comment on the deaths of Ma Walter Hicks and did not reply to the Daily Mail's inquiries into the nature of the scientists work before their deaths in June of 2023, just 13 months before he died, Malt Maywald was the lead researcher on a breakthrough that could help future space missions detect clear signals of life in other worlds. As for the other JPL connected scientist, Grillmayr had contributed to the discovery of water on a distant planet, with colleagues calling his work ingenious in adding that the research could point to signs of life less than 160 light years from Earth, according to his Caltech profile. He also worked on the neowise and NEO Surveyor, infrared space telescopes that track asteroids. Here's a picture of Monica Riza,

[John Haidt]

former

[Joe Soucheray]

FBI Assistant Director Chris Swecker recently told the Daily Mail. You can say these are all suspicious. And these are scientists who have worked in critical technology. Swecker claimed that multiple foreign intelligence services, including enemies and allies of the US have been targeting Americans possessing secrets of the nation's technology for decades. China, Russia, even some of our friends, Pakistan, India, Iran, North Korea. Iran and North Korea are friends.

[Kenny Olson]

Maybe when it comes to this, they are, which is frightening. I want you to do some wild speculation for me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, let's finish this first, all right? Grillmare's work with NeoWise and Neo Surveyor has also been linked to the Air Force, as the NASA telescopes use the same systems the military relies on to track satellites and hypersonic missiles. Nuno Lurio, 47, was one of the nine. He was assassinated at his home in the Boston suburb of Brookline on December 15, 2025.

[Kenny Olson]

Geez.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's been happening since the Cold War, FBI's Sweckers said, especially when nuclear technology and missile technology were first coming to the forefront.

[Matthew Vogel]

Because they think they're spies or they'll talk or.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, somebody doesn't want us to know.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay. President Joe Suchere. One of his many campaign promises was, no matter what, I am going to get to the bottom of the UFO mystery.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was one of Trump's promises.

[Kenny Olson]

You get into office and you never say another word about it because you found out the truth. What is the truth that you decided to keep quiet? What is it?

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't imagine what truth I could learn that would cause me to go back on what I promised.

[Kenny Olson]

Aliens are walking among us.

[Joe Soucheray]

But even that, I would say to my. I would say to whoever was arguing with me, so what?

[Kenny Olson]

And we have scientifically somehow mated the human race with aliens. Aliens are the reason for everything. Everything that happened in the Bible. Everything. All of it is alien technology.

[Joe Soucheray]

Boy, it shirts up that whole God thing, doesn't it?

[Kenny Olson]

It really does. And I've run this past some good, honest Christians, and they go, go, huh, yeah, maybe, huh? So it's got to be something that big. Otherwise it would be something that would just stop all of us, the Christians, the Muslims, the Jews, everybody would. Everybody.

[Matthew Vogel]

But regardless, it's the current conditions. It's here. Why you?

[Kenny Olson]

And we're doing just fine. Yeah. And we're doing just fine. Right? That's what. They don't want to subject the status quo to any variation. They want to keep things the way

[Matthew Vogel]

things are because we would panic. They think I would.

[John Haidt]

We.

[Matthew Vogel]

I just have an announcement to make.

[Joe Soucheray]

It has to be. It would have to be. I would have to be told something so shattering to everything. You know, how shattering.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, it's like when you die, you know, you Know where you're going? You're going to planet X or something. Something. You know, it would have to be something that. That huge. Where.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yeah. Would it have to do with planet Earth or what? Or would it be all of.

[Kenny Olson]

All of the solar system? And that's what it is, Joe. That's why they're not telling us, because it's that big. This is just my theory, by the way. And I'm getting paid.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know. I bet you will

[Kenny Olson]

when you hear my theory. Keep in mind I'm getting paid to talk.

[Chris Reavers]

You're clearly missing the boat. Oh, on all this.

[Matthew Vogel]

There we go. The horror strait is open.

[Joe Soucheray]

If you play some dumb video right now, I'm gonna break your neck.

[Chris Reavers]

Look it. Hands are in the air like I just don't care.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Okay. You clearly have someone in the room that could answer all of these mysteries. We need to go to our national correspondent, Mr. Vogel.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mr. Vogel, there have been nine deaths of scientists related to all of the space technology that we're aware of. And yet. Why? Do you have any insight talking to your sources? Why? These people have either disappeared or have been murdered.

[Matthew Vogel]

No, Man. A few words, Mr. Vogel.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, Mr. Vogel.

[Matthew Vogel]

I actually understood that.

[Chris Reavers]

Flummoxed him.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's perfect.

[Kenny Olson]

If he's confused, you know, it's bad if our.

[Joe Soucheray]

If our world correspondent doesn't know what's going on, then nobody knows what's going on.

[Matthew Vogel]

We need more time.

[Joe Soucheray]

Now. I find it. No, this is easy to say. This is easy to say because I've never been exposed to it, so I find it exciting.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what? I'm ready for it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. I mean, I find it exciting.

[Josh Arnold]

Home.

[Kenny Olson]

I am absolutely ready.

[Joe Soucheray]

Take me drunk.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm home.

[Matthew Vogel]

What do you find exciting? The possibility. Not that they're taking people out.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, no, no. I. I just. I don't know what I find exciting.

[Kenny Olson]

We've been braced for the apocalypse since the beginning of the Cold War. Door. Let's go. Here. I'm sick of waiting.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, when I was in grade school, which is getting to be a long time ago. Yeah. Log.

[Kenny Olson]

Log house.

[Joe Soucheray]

We had drills to go in the basement and eat saltine crackers in a.

[Kenny Olson]

Get under the desk.

[Joe Soucheray]

Bucket of water, you know, a drum of water.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Poop in a bag.

[Matthew Vogel]

Are we so arrogant that we think the aliens would come here and we're so self important that they would have to adapt to the way.

[Kenny Olson]

Matthew. Matthew. We are an alien experiment. That's all we are. That's all Earth is.

[Joe Soucheray]

That could be Experiment, that could be what we are not to understand. We don't want to be told that that would be. That would be, in the truest sense of the term, earth shattering to think of earth as we do. It's not our mother, but it's very important to us to think of it as just a dot on a larger scheme of what's going on truly would be upending to bring us back home.

[Kenny Olson]

I guarantee you what we were talking about earlier that more Americans know and are worried about this than fraud or Hormuz or Lebanon or anything else.

[Matthew Vogel]

I agree with you, Kenny. I agree.

[Joe Soucheray]

I.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've. This week, if I've seen 98 videos of UFOs, I saw two that were clearly real.

[Kenny Olson]

I can't wait to start smoking again. Oh, it's gonna be so awesome.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I came close. You know, 7 o' clock last night was the deadline for Iran Armageddon. And I had my. And I was with a fellow who said we need to go directly to either the St. Paul Grill or the Lexington.

[Matthew Vogel]

Were you pounding a. Were you packing a cigarette just like that?

[Joe Soucheray]

No. And I said to him, okay, we'll do that, but first I have to stop and buy cigarettes someplace because if I'm going down, I'm going down smoking Lucky or Pall Mall Straits, Marlboro Hard Pack Red. No, I'm going Lucky Straights. Ls Lucky Strike means fine tobacco. You know, they're roasted.

[Kenny Olson]

I think I'm just gonna go straight

[Joe Soucheray]

to crack and I'm gonna smoke it

[Kenny Olson]

so hard and fast that it gives me a heart attack.

[Joe Soucheray]

The trouble with crack is it would turn out to be a false alarm. Then you'd have the bad tooth.

[Kenny Olson]

Then I got a crack addiction to deal with. Damn, look at his elbow. You probably promised.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wonder why the gang of the American Experiment if I'm going to trust anyone to examine this question. But they've got so much on their plate. It would be the American Experiment right now. They have education on their plate. Americanexperiment.org, we use it every day. I advise all listeners to go to their website on a daily basis. It's just wonderful information. But here's a chance to do something about Minnesota education. Tuesday, April 14th. Next Tuesday you can join the American Experiment at the state Capitol for a school choice rally. They'll gather at noon to 1 o', clock, from noon to 1 o' clock at the Cass Gilbert Memorial Park. That's just northeast of the Capitol, right before there's a major school choice hearing. In the house. It's gonna be free. It's peaceful. It's about giving parents some educational freedom for a change. It's sponsored by the sen of the American Experiment, an opportunity for all kids. Show up because the future of Minnesota's kids is worth an hour of your time. And for more information, go to americanexperiment.org. Here's a man who spends hours in hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts. Joe Sucere Water

[Matthew Vogel]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John Haidt.

[John Haidt]

Thank you, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. I usually start with local news, but today we're going to start with international stuff, okay? Stuff that's going on since we've gone on the air. Now, this whole we talked about this, you know, yesterday and now there's an agreement, but the agreement's very confusing apparently. And to prove that, out in the last hour or two, we found out that Iran has once again closed the Strait of Hormuz, blocking oil tankers from going through the waterway. All of this in retaliation For Israeli strikes on Hezbollah oil tankers attempting to transit the strait received threatening messages today from the Iranian navy saying any vessel trying to travel will be targeted or destroyed. Israeli hits strikes hit several dense commercial and residential areas in central Beirut Wednesday afternoon without warning hours after the ceasefire was announced in the U. S. Israeli war with Iran. Lebanon's health ministry said dozens have been killed and hundreds wounded in an early estimate. Israel had said the agreement does not extend to its war with the Iran backed militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon, although mediator Pakistan, who put together this whole thing said it does.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I watched Pete Higseth, I watched him this morning say that this was a complete victory and all of that

[Kenny Olson]

changed in the last one hour.

[John Haidt]

Well, even the original agreement didn't seem like much of a victory for the.

[Joe Soucheray]

It did not. It did not.

[Matthew Vogel]

Well, your dow is up 1245 right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, when did this break, John?

[John Haidt]

This broke. I know, Kenny, about an hour ago, man, maybe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well then watch the Dow 30 minutes from now. Check it again. I will.

[John Haidt]

Now, there's still a lot of confusion about this agreement. The ceasefire process was clouded in uncertainty after Iran released different versions of the 10 point plan intended to be the basis for negotiations. All of this put forth by Pakistan. They helped negotiate it. The version in Farsi included the phrase acceptance of enrichment for its nuclear program. But for reasons that remain unclear, that phrase was missing in English versions shared by Iranian diplomats to journalists. President Trump initially had said Iran proposed a workable 10 point plan that could help end the war launched by the US And Israel. But he later called it fraudulent without elaborating. President has said ending Iran's nuclear program entirely was the key to the war. Iran's Supreme National Security Council said it accepted the ceasefire and it would negotiate with the US In Pakistan beginning this Friday. Neither Iran nor the United States said when the cease fire would begin. The shipping fees, by the way, here's how it was supposed to work. Iran and Oman would collect shipping fees when the Strait of Hormuz opened back up. And to get your ship through there, it would cost you $1 million.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hear a guy sitting there at a

[Matthew Vogel]

little toll booth Next,

[John Haidt]

they would apparently use that money, allegedly anyway, to reconstruct parts of Iran that have been destroyed since all of this started. In addition to the control of the strait, Iran's demands for end war, which apparently the US Agreed to, were that sanctions would be lifted. Those sanctions have been on Iran since the administration of George W. Bush and also its assets that have been frozen would be released. All of that was part of the agreement. Iran's demands for ending the war included a withdrawal of US combat forces from the region and the release of those assets. In a post today, the President said we are and will be talking terror tariff and sanctions with relief for Iran.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I. I certainly would never contest our president, but it sounds to me like he lost every single point. Sounds to me like the US caved in on every single point.

[Matthew Vogel]

Maybe it was a ploy.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's what it sounds like. Yeah. And somehow Hags Breath, what's his name? Hags Breath, Death said this is a complete victory. What is the victory part? Serious question. What is the victory? Maybe the victory part is that thanks to God only because who knows how God works, much less Trump. Trump didn't hit a button last night, so I think that's a victory.

[John Haidt]

I guess the other question though then becomes what have the last five weeks been for?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it seems to me that when it started, the straigh was open, then it was closed, and now it might be open again or closed. But if it is open, you'd have to pay a million bucks per boat to go through there.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, the original point I think, John, to answer your question, you know, it

[Joe Soucheray]

was about nuclear capabilities, which doesn't sound like they've ended.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, yeah. Who knows, you know, but yeah, you can't disagree with that.

[Matthew Vogel]

What's your cartoon bubble?

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, here's another way to look at this.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

It ain't over yet, right?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, yeah. It's barely started it seems to me.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

At this point.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew Vogel]

The Iranian navy cartoon bubble.

[Kenny Olson]

What do you got?

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, got some Boston Whalers.

[Kenny Olson]

Today would be a good day for governments of the world to reveal to the people what's going on with the aliens either.

[Joe Soucheray]

The guy with the megaphone with the flying saucer said, hey on earth, get your act together.

[John Haidt]

Here is. And this, this is the listeners don't care about this. But Kenny, can you help me here? Is. Is Rook really blurry or if I had a stroke.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, yeah, it's beer goggles for Matthew.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, John, he's perfectly clear. There must be something wrong with you.

[Kenny Olson]

For Matt and I

[Chris Reavers]

large out of focus now.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's focused blurry, I think.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, he's good. Now let's go to some local news now. Five Eyewitness News. Our fellows down in the the basement there in the building you guys are in say that Minneapolis Police Chief Brian o' Hara does not have enough city council support right now to be approved as top cop.

[Chris Reavers]

A source quote he does have support for the City council.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stop right there. How would you like to be this guy with what he's been through?

[Chris Reavers]

My God.

[Joe Soucheray]

And he's got to appease. Chugtai Wansley, Chowdhury, Chavez. These are people predisposed to oppose law enforcement in the first place, right?

[Kenny Olson]

Mm.

[John Haidt]

A source close to the process said if the city council did vote right now, his appointment would fail. That source said Mayor Jacob Fry has not yet forwarded o' Hara's name for official confirmation. Because the confirmation. Because the notes are not there yet, the mayor can hold a nomination for up to 210 days. Taking the process into August. The source said the mayor's team is also working behind the scenes to try and build more support. O' Hara is now in his fourth year as Minneapolis police chief. 5 Eyewitness News asked the mayor whether O' Hara has city council support. And the mayor said, you'll have to ask them. I won't speak.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, fry you wiener. If. If o' Hara goes, you better go with him because you will be pointless at that point.

[Kenny Olson]

You'll have to drag him out kicking and screaming.

[Chris Reavers]

Imagine that. Imagine that. Imagine the type of person though that clown show. City council would actually appoint point to be the police chief of Minneapolis.

[Joe Soucheray]

It would be.

[Matthew Vogel]

I can't even think about it.

[Joe Soucheray]

It would be a very. It would be somewhere on that. Gender list.

[Chris Reavers]

Boxes being checked.

[John Haidt]

Update to a story we had yesterday about the Minneapolis City Council. They have delayed talks on ordinances that would legalize and regulate sex venues.

[Joe Soucheray]

We need to do it for tourism.

[John Haidt]

Adult bath houses.

[Kenny Olson]

Great idea.

[John Haidt]

The agenda for the Minneapolis City Council included four measures related to adult bath houses and sex venues, including ordinances to amend regulations for adult entertainment or sexual activity between consenting adults may be facilitated. Number two, Update city definitions. In an effort to eliminate stigmatizing language reflecting advances in preventive care and adding new definitions to be inclusive of establishments where sexual activity between consenting adults may be facilitated. Number three, Changing provisions pertaining to indecent conduct and disorderly houses. Adding exceptions for licensed establishments where sexual activity between consulting and ends adults. Excuse me. May be facilitated. And for updating guidance pertaining to venereal diseases and high risk sexual conduct.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got it.

[John Haidt]

Yes.

[Matthew Vogel]

What do you have?

[Joe Soucheray]

Come to Minneapolis for the. For the riot tour. Stay. For the bath houses and on the riot tour. You know, the buses leave every 15 minutes. There will be a 30 minute stay at the third precinct. You can witness its dilapidation. And now nothing has happened. We let passengers off and they can get back on the next bus. But you can get off at George Floyd Square and discover why after six years. It'll be six years in May that we've spent more than $5 million and nothing's happened. And you'll see why with your own eyes. Then you can get back on the bus and go up and down Lake street where you can still see boarded up windows.

[Kenny Olson]

I have got all sorts of plans. We're gonna have bed and breakfast. That open air drug mart. Yes, we're gonna have. If you're really wealthy and you wanna live it up, you can sleep in your car.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can rent a Winnebago.

[Kenny Olson]

No, not a Winnebago. I'm thinking about Lebowski's. What did he drive, like a 73 Torino? Yeah, you could sleep in a Torino.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep. And we'll have the cars for you. You can pick out your car that you wanna sleep in.

[Kenny Olson]

And five years down the road, when tourism dies off again, we'll legalize bestiality and Namba and all the horrible things in society.

[Matthew Vogel]

One thing I wanted to ask John, he used the term indecent. What year are you using that term from?

[Kenny Olson]

1950. What do you mean by indecent?

[John Haidt]

That's a good point. Well, every point they dealt with ended with consenting adults.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, okay.

[John Haidt]

Facilitating.

[Matthew Vogel]

I don't.

[Chris Reavers]

Based upon Kenny's scenario there, he raises a good question. Let's say you got a car you

[John Haidt]

want to just kind of get rid of.

[Chris Reavers]

It doesn't run. It's not going to start. It might. The door would.

[Joe Soucheray]

It might be a tax deduction.

[Chris Reavers]

Could you. Could you donate it to Minneapolis, have it parked in that lot.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that's a great idea. But I want a tax deduction.

[Kenny Olson]

Sleeper car in my house. Consenting adults means we're going to put the wild on and we're going to read book. That's what we consent to.

[John Haidt]

I did. George.

[Joe Soucheray]

George.

[John Haidt]

Name's not George, it's Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

My name's Joe.

[John Haidt]

Joe, you brought up George Floyd Square.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Did you see the story? It was either in Sunday or Monday's Tribune. A pretty large story. And I couldn't read it because I just thought. No. And it acted from the headline in the first paragraph like this is it. Here we go.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wouldn't on purpose. I did not read it. Oh, it was just all bs.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. Here we go. We're gonna do it it now. It's going to get done.

[Joe Soucheray]

These it's brought to you. And then these. These attractions are brought to you by the adult children. Our City council.

[John Haidt]

If you want or need a donkey. The US Bureau of land management.

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought this was part of the tourism deal.

[John Haidt]

No, this is the u. S. Bureau of Land Management, Montana Dakota's office offering 100 burrows for purchase online.

[Kenny Olson]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

I wouldn't mind having a donkey. I.

[Kenny Olson]

That would be great. Then I. I truly. It would be. Jackass ranch.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. They'll eat anything.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, they're very friendly.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Haidt]

Very inexpensive. Give a listen here. The brayan across the dakotas event began this week and it runs through April 13th or until all the donkeys are sold at wildhorsesonline BLM.gov each really easy website site.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Each burrow. 125 bucks.

[Joe Soucheray]

Kenny, I will buy you a donkey if you take one.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I've got the fence post. I just need to buy some wire. I got a great pasture.

[Joe Soucheray]

I want a guy on the show who has a burl.

[Kenny Olson]

I would like to have two because they get lonely.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right. A male and a female.

[Matthew Vogel]

Also, you know what the well might

[Joe Soucheray]

be, you know, the new modern world could be.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's get a couple gays.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Because they always keep things nader.

[Matthew Vogel]

With the right training, a donkey can kick a football a mile.

[John Haidt]

Jeez. Buyers have to fill out an online form and be approved for purchases.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yeah. What I saw in a documentary.

[John Haidt]

Yeah, I was in a movie. Yeah. Successful buyers may pick up your burrow on May 30th in Richerton, North Dakota. Jamestown, North Dakota. Or Belle Fourche, South Dakota.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's the closest to. Kenny?

[John Haidt]

Jamestown, probably. Right, Kenny.

[Kenny Olson]

I want to go the furthest. Their farthest.

[John Haidt]

Belle.

[Kenny Olson]

I've never been to Belle.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can you borrow a horse trailer from somebody? I've got it covered already. Don't worry about me, brother.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Okay. That's. Wild horses online.blm.gov what's a donkey, punk?

[Matthew Vogel]

I'm not.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll show you.

[Josh Arnold]

Damn.

[John Haidt]

Why don't we.

[Kenny Olson]

That was worse than anything I've said.

[Chris Reavers]

Only you know what that's. You know what that's from.

[Joe Soucheray]

What is that?

[Kenny Olson]

Anyway, we'll tell you off the.

[Chris Reavers]

No, no, no, no. It stemmed from a viral video that stemmed from jeopardy.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

A blow to the back of the neck.

[John Haidt]

Is the punch named for this animal?

[Joe Soucheray]

Mike, what is a donkey? No, Betsy, what is a rabbit punch?

[John Haidt]

Rabbit. Yes. Alex almost started laughing.

[Chris Reavers]

He did.

[John Haidt]

Rocko, why don't you.

[Joe Soucheray]

What's a donkey punch?

[John Haidt]

Take us away.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll show you.

[John Haidt]

Take us away from this work, please.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, rook.

[Matthew Vogel]

Because there's no other segue.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm just going to jump right into ours. Oh, this is the best segment you've ever had.

[Matthew Vogel]

I don't know if they bore donkeys or not.

[Chris Reavers]

We're talking animals.

[Matthew Vogel]

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[John Haidt]

In election news from yesterday, Republican Clay Fuller won Marjorie Taylor Greene's former U.S. house seat in Georgia, turning back a Democratic challenge with the help of President Trump's endorsement. Democrat Sean Harris had led the first round of voting in March in a 17 candidate field but couldn't overcome the northwest Georgia district. Strongly Republican tilt. Fuller's arrival in the House bolsters a slim Republican majority, but he will have to run again later this year to secure secure a full two year term. Despite losing the race by 12 percentage points, Democrats say they were encouraged by the vote. Fuller won the election 56 to 44%, but it's in a district that President Trump won by 37 points in 2024. This race, the first time a Democrat has ever received over 40% of the vote in this district. Meanwhile, next door to US Democratic backed candidate Chris Taylor won election to the Wisconsin Supreme Court, growing the liberal majority on the Wisconsin court as cases affecting congressional redistricting, union rights and other hot button issues await in the battleground state. Taylor, who focused her campaign on abortion rights, handily defeated Republican backed Maria Lazar in the fourth straight victory for liberal court candidates dating back to 2020. Liberals are now guaranteed to hold a majority on the Supreme Court in Wisconsin until at least the year 2030. Delta Airlines said Tuesday it'll raise fees for checked bags on domestic and select short haul international routes as airlines try to offset soaring jet fuel costs linked to the tensions in the Middle East. The increase marks the first hike in Delta's domestic baggage fees in two years. It follows similar moves by rivals United Airlines and JetBlue Airways. Microsoft Co founder Bill Gates will sit for an interview about Jeffrey Epstein with the House Oversight and Government reform committee on June 10. Gates is one of several people who have agreed to be interviewed by the oversight panel about their dealings with Epstein. In February, Gates apologized to staff at the Gates foundation for his association with Epstein and admitted having affairs with two Russian women, which Epstein learned of, the Wall Street Journal reported. Gates, at the same event, said, I did nothing elicit. I saw nothing elicit. His interview will come a day after the committee's scheduled interview of Epstein's former executive assistant, Leslie Groff, according to the person familiar with the situation. Another billionaire, Ted Waite, has agreed to testify on April 30. According to a person familiar, Waite was a co founder of the Gateway computer company. The Trump administration so far has rebuffed requests from Ford Motor Co. And other U.S. automakers for some relief from aluminum tariffs after fires at a major American factory factory created supply bottlenecks for vehicles, including Ford's very popular F150 pickup. Last fall, two fires at the Novellas aluminum rolling plant in Oswego, N.Y. took the facility offline, at least until June. The fires occurred in the part of the plant where aluminum is rolled into thin sheets that are later stamped into automotive body parts. I'm having a problem because you guys watched, you know, Top Gear.

[Joe Soucheray]

I always want to say aluminium, aluminium, aluminium.

[Kenny Olson]

That'd be all right. Endorse that.

[John Haidt]

In recent weeks, Ford has petitioned the Trump administration for help asking officials for relief from the duties, at least until Novellas Oswego plant returns to full service, according to people with knowledge of the conversations. The discussions are part of ongoing Conversations between automakers and the administration about the impact of President Trump's tariffs. So far, the administration hasn't budged. Apache county health officials. Officials in Arizona have announced a confirmed case of the plague.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, seriously, Clark.

[John Haidt]

Officials say the person has recovered after getting treatment. It's the first confirmed case in Apache county since 2015 and only the fourth in the last 20 years.

[Joe Soucheray]

Plague. I don't like that word.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yeah, I don't like to play.

[Kenny Olson]

Is that from rats?

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm seeing black scabs. Oh.

[John Haidt]

Public health workers are assessing environmental risks and ensuring the appropriate safety measures are in place. Officials.

[Joe Soucheray]

That'd be a hell of a good noon. Lake. Name? Plague. I got a place up on Plague. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Upper Lower Plague Island. Lake.

[Joe Soucheray]

What it. Plague Island?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, Plague Island.

[Matthew Vogel]

Severe potentially fatal infection caused by the bacterium.

[Kenny Olson]

Whatever.

[Matthew Vogel]

Typically transmitted through bites of inflect infected fleas found on rodents.

[John Haidt]

Takes care of my next paragraph.

[Matthew Vogel]

Sorry, John.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thanks, John.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, so it's fleas and not fleas. Oh, okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where do you get fleas?

[Matthew Vogel]

They're out there.

[John Haidt]

Well, yeah, dogs can get them, Joe. Apache county saw plague activity in 2015 with a large die off of rodents. Indicated plague was likely going around the area. Symptoms usually show up, if you're wondering, in two to six days after. After you're exposed. Common symptoms, sudden fever and chills, headache, muscle aches, fatigue, weakness and swollen painful lymph nodes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Would that be major plague? Would those be the symptoms of major plague?

[Matthew Vogel]

Like dengue?

[Kenny Olson]

I have all of that right now.

[John Haidt]

Anyone who has the symptoms should get checked right away. Unlike the Middle Ages, when plague. Also known as Black Death. The Black Death.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. That's where I get the black scabs from? I think so.

[John Haidt]

Killed between 25 and 50 million.

[Joe Soucheray]

Holy mackerel. Well, can you. Can you cure yourself of plague?

[John Haidt]

Yes. Unlike the Middle ages, as I said, plague can now be treated with antibiotics, especially when caught early.

[Joe Soucheray]

I see.

[Matthew Vogel]

So why did it go wildfire? Were there that many rodents or fleas that were infected?

[John Haidt]

Well, they didn't have antibiotics, Matt.

[Joe Soucheray]

They didn't have any medical knowledge.

[Matthew Vogel]

No. Okay. But I get bit by a flea and I get black death. It doesn't transmit to you. You got to get bit by the rodent or the flea, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I would think that that's a good question. In other words, is it contagious?

[John Haidt]

Yeah, sometimes it can be spread through direct contact with infected animals. So if you have contact with a. A rodent, which would be common in

[Kenny Olson]

the movies, describe contact. Kind of the romantic kind or what. What what are we talking about?

[Matthew Vogel]

Consenting?

[Kenny Olson]

No, Letting it kiss you. People like letting their dog kiss them.

[Joe Soucheray]

So the goat is wandering around the caves.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, and all the people. People are touching the goat. Right. That's why they got it.

[John Haidt]

Yeah. And things were.

[Josh Arnold]

Uncle Henry over there.

[Matthew Vogel]

Look at him. Look at him.

[Kenny Olson]

You have to admit having the plague would be a better excuse than even Covid for getting out of family functions. Wouldn't it? You wouldn't have to go to a family reunion all year.

[Joe Soucheray]

I would say. Think plague would work? He's got a little plague going. You don't want to be near him.

[Chris Reavers]

Remember when Kenny ran that scam about five years ago? Joe, I ain't going to be here on Monday. I'm going to get Covid.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, you got it For a day.

[Kenny Olson]

I have had Covid here this winter. I don't think I even told you guys.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, you didn't infect us yet. Is that it? John? Do I thank you at this point?

[John Haidt]

If you'd like to.

[Joe Soucheray]

Or. I'll thank you one more.

[John Haidt]

It's up to you.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I'd like one more because I really like the track we're on.

[John Haidt]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[John Haidt]

Is that sarcasm? I think so.

[Kenny Olson]

No.

[John Haidt]

Two men are facing felony charges after they were spotted driving across Florida with a dead alligator strapped to the roof of.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is why I wanted to continue.

[John Haidt]

Witnesses first reported seeing the gator adorned vehicle as it traveled near Walt Disney World.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why can't you have a gator police license? Here's 10.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, when you move to the country you got to learn to mind your own business. You hear shots at night or somebody drives by with a gator on top of their grand. Just let it go. It's none of your business.

[Chris Reavers]

To quote the great video that Matthew and I saw. Ain't none of my business.

[Joe Soucheray]

I feel.

[Matthew Vogel]

I feel you right.

[John Haidt]

Roll credits at least. License state plate readers subsequently track the auto as it moves moved through other central Florida locales. At some point the suspects covered the gator with a white sheet because they were warned by multiple parties that possession of the alligator is illegal in the state of Florida.

[Joe Soucheray]

I would think they'd want as many as possible killed unprotected.

[Kenny Olson]

Take them down.

[John Haidt]

They eventually got pulled over around 7pm by a fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission officer in Melbourne, Florida. The suspects were 56 year old Anthony Buell and 57 year old March Chadwick. They reportedly admitted taking the roadkill alligator and wanting to take it to a taxidermy office and have it stuffed. Even after they were warned. It's unclear if the reptile was still atop the vehicle when it was pulled over, since the arrest report notes the duo had earlier called a dispatcher and said they got rid of the alligator.

[Joe Soucheray]

She gone.

[John Haidt]

Buell and Chadwick were arrested, charged with illegal killing, possessed, possessing or capturing of alligators. The men were booked into the Brevard County Jail, from which they were later freed after posting $5,000.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a tough deal.

[Kenny Olson]

The fact that states claim ownership of animals to me is absolutely ridiculous.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, they should be free creatures.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, they should.

[John Haidt]

If I may add one other thing to this, you probably have a bunch a couple of hillbillies in your heads, don't you?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. Well, me?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Matthew Vogel]

I'm looking at one in the lower right there. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Hi, everybody.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yeah.

[John Haidt]

Chadwick is an architect who practices and operates from New York City to Chattanooga, Tennessee.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[John Haidt]

Buell is a world traveler who speaks four languages and has attended acting school at the Lee Strasberg Academy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Boy, don't judge your book by its cover. They don't fit the bill.

[John Haidt]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

They don't listen to Sun Rob.

[Joe Soucheray]

They don't sound like gator trappers.

[John Haidt]

The Sunrise.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you so much.

[Kenny Olson]

Faulkner books in the backpacks.

[Chris Reavers]

Let's talk about North American Banking Company, shall we?

[Joe Soucheray]

If you do it slowly, Joe, I

[Chris Reavers]

will do it so slow that you're gonna give me the wrap up sign. How does that sound? Because North American Banking Company has been investing into your success and most importantly, into your communities since 1998. And would you like to guess why?

[Joe Soucheray]

Why?

[Chris Reavers]

Because you know what? They made a promise to deliver a better banking experience for everybody for years. You, for your family, but also for you businesses out there. Yes, all of you small business owners that are looking to maybe change up your banking needs, turn to my friends at North American Banking Company and I'll tell you why. Anaconda. You want to know why? Locally owned and operated, all six locations. And that means all loan decisions are made right here in the Twin Cities. They are not sent out of state. So that that way you can solve problems quickly and you can also expand your business with confidence. You see, they deal with numbers every single day, but you will never be one of them. But your first step can be checking them out online. Today it's nabankco.com to learn more. With six wonderful Twin Cities locations to serve you, 50th in France and Hastings and Roseville are the home of yours truly. But you can also see them in Woodbury, Shoreview, and also in Maple Grove, offering the Same updated online and mobile banking tools as all of those other big national banks. But once again, the key difference is you're going to get the unparalleled service of a Community Bank. Nabankco.com to learn more North American banking company member FDIC is an equal housing lender.

[Joe Soucheray]

The Earth is not your mother the Joe sungiere Show Big bang bang boom. Done.

[Kenny Olson]

Big Easter weekend at Jackass Ranch. We had the roast beef, the ham, a grot and taters and Seafoam. My former write off was very busy. A snowblower got put to bed with Seafoam. Dirt bikes were awakened. They ran great thanks to Seafoam last fall. The tractors are purring. They have a healthy dose in those diesel only tanks. Chainsaws. They're going to get a workout this upcoming weekend. Life pretty good here with Seafoam. Meanwhile, since the thought of running out and not having any on hand, I've changed tactics. We're now buying all of our Seafoam products in bundles of three. These days we call it the well you never know bundle. It's just that simple. Three cans of Engine Treatment, three cans of Deep Creep and three spray bottles of Bugs be Gone. We should actually have more of the Bugs be Gone. Boy, that stuff is really good. We just. I have to have them for me anyway. I've got to have them within reach whenever I need need them. Seafoam does it right. Wonderful products in a world of big bad squishy bugs, rusty bolts and bad gas.

[Joe Soucheray]

May I be entirely serious? Not that I'm never not serious. Steve Grove is the publisher of the. What are we calling it? The Minnesota Star Tribune.

[Chris Reavers]

They rebranded Joe as the Minnesota Star Tribune.

[Joe Soucheray]

I say that with some sad he doesn't know anything about newspapers or the history of newspapers. I don't know why Glenn Taylor chose him for this role. Glenn Taylor owns the paper. Grove was formerly the head of deed at Department of Economic Employment with Development. He was a walls guy. He's now asking asking the public to support the Star Tribune. He seeks to make support of the Star Tribune inescapable. Cancellation of your subscription won't cut it. This morning he sent out the publisher's note. Hello Minnesota subscribers. Got this and well, other people. I hope you're enjoying the spring in Minnesota, no matter how halting that transition always feels. Our outdoors team has been busy reminding us of great hikes and wildlife that come with the season, including some standard resource, my favorite in our guide to urban canoeing. The legislative session is also in full swing and this year Something unique is happening. Local news publishers from across Minnesota are rallying at the State Capitol to advocate advocate for local news support. I'm saying this with sadness, and I'm being very serious. The True North News Alliance, a new coalition of local news organizations, has brought together many sensible ideas for ways state government can support our industry, which faces existential threats to success. The argument is simple. If quality journalism is a service our communities depend on, just like good plumbing, healthcare or broadband, then government support its survival. Many should support its survival. Many states across the country have already passed laws that help fund journalism without influencing its content. Why not Minnesota? In St. Paul, we spoke with legislators from both chambers and both sides of the aisle about the cause. You can read more about the ideas on the Truth North's website. This moment at the Capitol represents just how big the challenges publishers face are and starts a much needed conversation about how to strengthen local news. Please contact your legislators and tell them how important local news is to you. With gratitude. Steve Grove this is one of the worst ideas imaginable. It should not be done. It should not be the taxpayer's problem. That the Minnesota Star Tribune can't figure out how to stay profitable. That's not the taxpayer's problem. They should just go out of business. That would be regrettable, but that's what should happen. The state should not get in the news business. Who wrote this for Powerline? Scott Johnson or Hinder Rocker?

[Kenny Olson]

I think it was. No, I think it was Johnson.

[Joe Soucheray]

If quality journalism is a service our communities depend on, just like good plumbing, healthcare or broadband, then government should support its survival. And. And Johnson is echoing, or I'm echoing Johnson's thoughts. I didn't know the government was in the plumbing business. I'll have to fact check that.

[Kenny Olson]

Does this remind you of anything? There's many different versions of Pravda depending on where you are over there. But the Russian Pravda is a actual disinformation network funded by the government.

[Joe Soucheray]

We dispute the gauzy premise and the multitude of unstated assumptions within this premise. To take just the most obvious one, Grove assumes that the Star Tribune produces quality journalism. The assumption piles overwhelming arrogance on false promise. In its own way, it represents the nausea and nauseating quality of the newspaper. Steve, if you want more money for the house organ of the DFL and your subscribers, you're unwilling to up the ante, please talk to your boss or go away. You are a disgrace. He is. This is disgraceful. He's too young to know what newspapers really are, once were, and should still be if your newspaper is in that much trouble.

[Kenny Olson]

Trouble.

[Joe Soucheray]

You really should just fold it. It should just go away. I don't know what Glenn Taylor is thinking. Obviously he's not hands on. This makes the guy who owns the Pioneer Press look valiant. And he's just some hedge fund crook in Palm Beach. I say crook. I shouldn't say crook. He's just some hedge fund guy in Palm beach who doesn't know the Pioneer Press from a grain of sand. But I have not heard him put forth an idea to seek public money. Although for all I know the Pioneer Press is part of this ridiculous group. Grove is touting this North. What is it called? Let me find it. He's got some.

[Kenny Olson]

He's at the very beginning.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's got some group here that is pestering the legislature for it is a. The Star Tribune is quite factually a DFL house organ.

[Kenny Olson]

The True North News Alliance.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, will you go on there real quickly?

[Kenny Olson]

You know what this is? This is an opportunity for the Minnesota state government to control all of the news.

[Joe Soucheray]

And if Grove naively suggests that that wouldn't be the case. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He has no history with this. He's never been involved in how a newspaper operates and what it should be doing. He has no knowledge whatsoever. John, I just want to know if the Pioneer Press is part of that organization.

[John Haidt]

Okay, that. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

If your miserable little newspaper doesn't kiss walls butt, you're funding has been pulled.

[Joe Soucheray]

The True North. The True North News Alliance. John.

[John Haidt]

True north is a statewide alliance working to strengthen community centered civic information and local news across Minnesota. The alliance brings together journalists, community leaders, media organizations, advocates and partners who share a belief that access to trustworthy local info is essential to a healthy democracy and thriving communities. As to who the members are, I

[Joe Soucheray]

would like to know if the Pioneer

[John Haidt]

Press is a member member organizations. The Minnesota Newspaper association is part of it. But there are no papers named at all. There's a few radio stations.

[Joe Soucheray]

Not this one, I would imagine.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh God, no. They wouldn't do that. I agree. Such. I would rather see a paper die.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'd rather see a fold grove and go away. You're. You're not useful. You're not intelligent. You're not experiencing expressing any wisdom. Here you have. This is terrible.

[Kenny Olson]

What would you say?

[Joe Soucheray]

Absolutely terrible.

[Kenny Olson]

What about newspapers around the state? Smaller towns?

[Joe Soucheray]

If you can't make it, you can't make it. That's too St.

[Kenny Olson]

Cloud.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wilmer and I love them. I feel terrible saying that. But if you can't make it go out of business. The audience is not there anymore for a newspaper.

[Kenny Olson]

My local newspapers are chock a block with ads. I don't know, but I would assume they're doing okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

The electronic sources have long since put the newspapers on the ropes. That wouldn't change. With an infusion of state money. That would not change. You're still not going to be the champion anymore in the city. That time has passed us by and there's no need to drag the state and the taxpayers into to it. The taxpayers in this state are so heavily burdened now that to think that they should be party to a state creating its own news agency. Which is essentially what this would be.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is, you know, for example, this would end up in a legislative committee. Then it would end up in a legislative panel and the panel would be reviewing the product. And the product, you know, depending upon their review reviews the product could get the. It would. It's. It's open for. It's. It's wide open for ideological fraud.

[Kenny Olson]

100%.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is just a terrible, terrible idea. Just a terrible idea. It couldn't be more wrong headed. I'm so sad about this. It's just, it's just pathetic. If it happens, I. It's easy for me to say because I'm no longer young, but I would officially be done at that point. I would not participate.

[Kenny Olson]

It'll happen, Joe. You know, it'll happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I. There's no legislators I can count on.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is a sad, sad that this fellow would write this. It's just a sad, sad commentary on where we are in this. Takes a lot of gall and I understand completely that newspapers are up against it. That's life. It's time to move on. People no longer make buggy whips either. I'm as sorry as the next person that the average 25 year old gets his or her news from looking at their watch, much less their telephone. The newspapers didn't see it coming and even if they did, I'm not sure they would have known how handle it. You're putting out a product right now, Grove, that has a 5pm deadline. There is no news in it until two days later. I understand that. Same with the St. Paul paper. I get it. But the answer is not to have the state now support the paper that will become a state organ.

[Kenny Olson]

What's funny is the printed version of the paper often completely omits extremely important breaking news because by the time they get it to your doorstep, like you just Said it's two days later.

[Joe Soucheray]

I am really a lucky guy.

[Matthew Vogel]

Why?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, we all were.

[Joe Soucheray]

I mean, afternoon papers. I got to be in the business when it was at the height of its popularity. It was just really the place to be. It was exciting. It was. It was strong. It was important. It was. It was just wonderful. Just wonderful.

[Kenny Olson]

Press shaking the whole building Dock trucks backing up ramps at 2 in the morning.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hold the presses. I'm not done writing. Oh, my God.

[Kenny Olson]

Boxes filled by 5am what was the

[Matthew Vogel]

first sign that they weren't going to last? Or when did the papers start?

[Kenny Olson]

Afternoon. The loss of the afternoon, probably the

[Joe Soucheray]

loss of the evening papers, which was as recently as 1982, which to me isn't that long ago.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, no, you were in business later than that. We used to get them up in Maplewood in the.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, maybe the evening paper in St. Paul was the Dispatch, and that might have lasted longer than 82. The Minneapolis Star was the evening paper. That was ended in 82. That was the beginning of the end. But life had changed so much. Dad didn't come home anymore and read the paper.

[Kenny Olson]

Young people right now are eye rolling, us old timers.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, they are. But they have no idea what the role of newspapers have played in this great American saga.

[Kenny Olson]

It was so wonderful.

[Matthew Vogel]

If you go back to 80, was there a liberal twist or. Or was it straight up news? I know you had the editorial pages

[Joe Soucheray]

far more straight up news than today.

[Matthew Vogel]

Okay. The reporters didn't develop an opinion, they

[Joe Soucheray]

just reported the news. Back then you were as likely to have a reporter on election day vote for a Republican as a Democrat. The business has attracted. Has attracted people who are not as enamored with. They're more enamored with their agendas than they are the truth of things than unbiased. Yeah, it never occurred to me that anything I was doing was political. That never even occurred to me. I suppose that's much easier for a sports person to say.

[Kenny Olson]

It is now, though.

[Joe Soucheray]

But then. But what do you mean on the podcast? No, not my column.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, your column.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, it's changed. It's changed dramatically.

[Matthew Vogel]

Can you cite any examples of your first columns that you did that you remember

[Kenny Olson]

that what I mean.

[Matthew Vogel]

Oh, just not that he would have a bias, but what were some of the early ones that you said, I'm gonna write about that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, when I was a sports columnist. No, then that didn't happen.

[Matthew Vogel]

But once you were given any column,

[Joe Soucheray]

I suppose it was political, though. To be opposed to the building of the Metrodome, that was political. That was a big political brouhaha.

[Matthew Vogel]

You didn't jump into politics at that Latimer or anything like that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, when I became a non sports columnist, yes I did write about politics.

[Kenny Olson]

Can you guys have this conversation some other time, please?

[Joe Soucheray]

Only because they come.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait a second. I want to promote it, Joe. It's going to be good. Crabby's going to be really good. Today we're having a guy, Rob Understander on Millionaire retired no income, qualified for SNAP benefits in Minnesota. It doesn't matter how much money you have, if you are retired with no income you can eat for free on the government dime. So we're going to talk about that on Crabby today.

[Joe Soucheray]

Which is why the state shouldn't be in the business of ever redistributing your money.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes sir.

[Joe Soucheray]

Only because they come to us all the way from Penguin, Tasmania, Australia from the traveling Lymans. It was on this day, April 8th. Well, on this day in 1897, the Red river crested in Moorhead and flood waters drove 300 people from from their homes. On this day, April 8th in 1905. Christened by Rose Marie Schaller of Hastings, the battleship Minnesota was launched at Newport News, Virginia on this day, April 8th in 1953. Responding to the first ever sit down strike at the Minnesota state President Stillwater warden Carl Jackson met the prisoners demands for nourishing sanitary food by firing the prison's chef during the strike which began on April 7th. That was yesterday. The lockdown prisoners littered the corridors with trash and broke windows on this day, April 8th. Well, it's a little out of order, but that's all right. On this day in 1911, Melvin Calvin was born in St. Paul working as a biochemist. Decades later, Calvin discovered the details of the photosynthesis process and was awarded a Nobel Prize in chemistry in 1961. On this day in sports disappointment history.

[Chris Reavers]

Who'd we lose to on April 8th?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on this day in 1980, Al Secord slashed Dino Cicarelli in the back of the head.

[Matthew Vogel]

C Cord sucks.

[Joe Soucheray]

Had to be a playoff game against the Hawk against the Blackhawks. I think that was the day. I think my car got stuck in the alley and I got the dreaded phone call because I was covering that series. I think it was in Chicago when that happened. Thank you. G. Ellers.

[Matthew Vogel]

Yes.

[Chris Reavers]

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[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, they, they jumped out of the bomb, the bomb shelters. Oh my goodness, the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Price of oil is rising. Stocks are going to go, are going to go into a bear market. The world is ending. Oil is up. Federal Reserve is going to ratchet up interest rates to unreal level. Sell stock, sell, sell stock. Oh my goodness. Get out of everything, get out of everything quick and just go to cash. Oh my goodness. And I do have to besides such duper thinking. And then they with news actually last night with news of a ceasefire between the US and Iran. And this is definitely a fragile fire with the hope, the, and I say hope that the streets were moved completely open which at this juncture as we report this, there are reports that it is open and there are also reports that Iran is closing Straits of Hormuz because Israel still active. Stop Hezbollah firing rocket on Israeli citizens. But even with this fragile, a fragile ceasefire, price of oil is down $17 barrel from its high yesterday had been a little bit lower until news of potential closing in the strait before moves stock price initially ripped higher. And the traders, traders said oh my goodness, we've got to get in and get in quick bid prices up substantially from where they were yesterday and now probably a little bit of profit taking that, that Said, you know, oil stocks, we have said oil stocks have been in my mind overextended. Not a place, not a place to be. Technology had been underwhelming, had reached level in terms of price to earnings multiples that hadn't been seen in a long time. And to me that was a place to be. But of course him through my focus on Internet I and my clients could be considered overweight in technology. But I think that I'll say the focus on the Internet can be pretty broadly defined. Yes, there is the use of technology. Is Apple a technology technology company or consumer staple or consumer discretionary company or all of those in one. And the same holds for, for Amazon. Is Glasswork, is that a industrial industrial company or is that technology company Hinge, you know hinge to artificial intelligence, Glassworks BLW is Corning which is an industrial company but with their fiber optics, fiber optic cable, huge, huge need in data centers and in communications. So you could, you know, use that, that space broadly. But many of these companies are, have seen their price earnings multiples compressed and do offer, you know, some longer term reward though not without a lot of volatility and I would expect the volatility even though it's down a little bit today to continue. So I do maintain keeping up to 30% in cash and the balance invested in growth companies. Now my folks have Internet related companies and leisure businesses. Typically they have held up well during times of stress and we're in one of those times threats and that has been the focus and it has worked over a long period of time. It is interesting just in terms of technology that old has been catching a bid and indeed has moved up significantly over the over the past few days on news of its relationship or deal with SpaceX and the building of data centers and manufacturer of chips for robots and for satellites that SpaceX will do. So that does give investors say another way to invest indirectly in the upcoming SpaceX IPO which is slated to come out later this year. We'll talk more of that as time goes on. Another interesting development rate is concerns around Anthropic and one of their new cyber security products which is definitely beneficial to the likes of Apple, Amazon, Google and Microsoft, just to name a few companies they're involved with and propaganda. Plus it gives some credence to CrowdStrike and Palo Alto who are also the beneficiaries of this. Today we'll say is a nice green day overall unless you're invested in oil or chemicals. But other than that we'll take the green as it as it comes. Point of all this is you're never going to know when a big positive day is going to be coming after a we'll say a sea of red and better to be invested. Maybe not 100%, but better to be invested to take advantage of that when it comes.

[Chris Reavers]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G. Ellers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugar coated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Haidt]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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