6/24 Tom Hauser in for the mayor today in GL

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast — Episode Summary Date: June 24, 2026
Host: Tom Hauser (in for Joe Soucheray)
Produced by: Gamut Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

With legendary host Joe Soucheray off, TV journalist Tom Hauser fills in at the “mayor’s office above the boathouse” alongside Chris Reivers, Kenny Olson, John "the Rookie" Rook, and Johnny Height. Today’s Garage Logic features a lively and nostalgia-soaked conversation about the summer of 1988, marathon running, local political drama, the quirks of polling and endorsements, the aftermath of Minneapolis’ police chief scandal, and the state of various institutions — from airports to the Minnesota Republican Party. As always, the crew blends Minnesota current events, sports, and biting humor, living up to the show's proud “seat of common sense” reputation.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

Weather Memories & the Summer of 1988

Timestamps: 02:58–07:54

• Tom reports daily weather records (101° in 1988, 44° in 1972).
• Reminiscing on the severe drought and heatwave of 1988; discussion turns to the hardship droughts place on local agriculture and personal experiences with “chiggers.”
• Banter about the differences between dry Midwest and humid Florida summers.

“That first summer... it was just like a barren landscape. Oh lord, it was dirt. Like a dust bowl.”
— Tom Hauser (03:40)

Marathons, Majors & Travel Mishaps

Timestamps: 08:31–13:26

• Tom Hauser celebrates his 40th marathon, noting the expanding World Marathon Majors (Tokyo, Sydney, Cape Town, and soon, Shanghai).
• Story of Cape Town marathon being canceled hours before start due to high winds: the financial risks of trip cancellations and the necessity of insurance.
• Friendly teasing about the impracticality of international marathons.

“Every time they come up with a new major, I will be long out of the running game.”
— Tom Hauser (10:37)

Duluth Updates & Lester Park Golf Course Debate

Timestamps: 19:30–23:09

• Hauser describes his marathon weekend in Duluth: “ran for a little over four and a half hours, then drank beer and listened to music for about nine hours.”
• Joe brings up the debate over repurposing the abandoned Lester Park Golf Course for housing vs. keeping it wild.
• The crew discusses the complexities of local development versus preservation, property taxes, and public sentiment.

“It’s always the people with no skin in the game that want the most.”
— Joe Soucheray (21:11)

Duluth's Music Scene

Timestamps: 21:54–23:09

• Recap of Duluth’s Bayfront Music Festival, with local acts like GB Leighton and Hairball, and nostalgia for bands like Soul Asylum.
• Discussion on how concerts after major events (like Grandma’s Marathon) become an endurance test.

Minnesota Political Polling & Party Endorsements

Timestamps: 23:32–36:52

• Tom shares recent polling results for Minnesota’s U.S. Senate and gubernatorial races, focusing on the Republican and DFL primaries.
• Big Takeaway: Party endorsements’ value is declining — “name recognition is king.”
  • Michelle Tafoya leads the GOP Senate primary (36%), while the party-endorsed candidate limps at 7%.
  • Mike Lindell (“Mr. Pillow”) leads the GOP governor’s primary (27%) despite being seen as unelectable in a general election.
• Discussion on how money buys name recognition, and how both major parties’ endorsement systems often pick out-of-touch candidates.

“These people stay up at night thinking about politics... They choose candidates in this little bubble, and this is what happens.”
— Tom Hauser (26:33)

“Party endorsements have become almost meaningless — all that matters is name ID and fundraising.”
— Paraphrased summary

• Analysis of abortion’s lingering role as a litmus test in the GOP, and the looming question of Trump’s possible involvement in state races.

The Enduring Advantage of the DFL

Timestamps: 70:31–71:17

• The DFL’s massive fundraising apparatus (Alliance for a Better Minnesota, legacy donors) is highlighted as a persistent challenge for the Minnesota GOP.
• Hauser observes the lack of GOP money and infrastructure compared to Democrats.

Political Disputes & Process Flubs

Timestamps: 66:26–70:09

• Tom and Joe break down a minor controversy around Peggy Bennett’s failed attempt to get on the GOP convention ballot, revealing strict rules and possible favoritism in party management.

“I saw the headline, Tom, and I thought, oh God, finally. And then I read the story and it’s like, oh, okay. Well, maybe you don’t have much of a case.”
— Joe Soucheray (69:55)

Minneapolis Police Chief Resignation: Inside Baseball

Timestamps: 45:21–49:48

• Tom recounts the rapid-fire sequence when Chief Brian O'Hara resigned, mere hours after being pitched as a guest for Hauser’s own show.
• Joe and Tom explain how rumors and internal leaks dogged the chief’s tenure.
• Conversation turns to listener media criticism — reporters blamed for not exposing fraud sooner, when in truth, they’d covered Medicaid and childcare fraud for over a decade.

“All of you are getting the blame for the fraud, even though all of you have been reporting on it since the teens, which is hilarious to me.”
— Joe Soucheray (48:21)

Local News: Fraud Crackdown & Disability Services Impact

Timestamps: 41:40–44:28

• Seven Minnesotans charged in federal healthcare fraud busts; Attorney General Ellison’s office continues “fraud crackdown.”
• Coverage of town halls where legitimate disability service providers and families express fear of collateral damage from the crackdown.

“The people really caught in the middle are people who need these disability services. And that’s the saddest thing about the whole wax.”
— Tom Hauser (44:02)

National News and Political Updates

Timestamps: 53:56–56:25

• Senate passes a symbolic resolution to halt military action against Iran.
• President Trump unexpectedly cancels signing of a bipartisan housing bill, holding it hostage for a voting reform bill, despite housing affordability being voters’ top issue.
• New York City Mayor Zohar Mamdani’s successful effort to elect progressives in Congressional primaries.

Light-hearted Features & Minnesota Trivia

Airport Ranking

Timestamps: 56:59–58:16

• Minneapolis-St. Paul International named the least stressful airport in America.
• Chicago O’Hare ranked most stressful due to delays and travel time to city.

Science & Weird News

Timestamps: 58:26–61:11

• French doctor returns from Democratic Republic of Congo with Ebola; risk to Europe remains low.
• UC Berkeley develops an “electronic nose” for fridges.
• Discovery of a new Australian spider (the “ballista spider”) that catapults its prey.

Humor Intelligence Study

Timestamps: 61:35–63:12

• Amusing research finding: People with darker humor (gallows humor) tend to have higher intelligence and lower aggression.

Tennis and Sports Nostalgia

Timestamps: 73:00–80:57

• The hosts riff on an odd PR pitch about tennis trick-shot “legend” Mansour Bahrami, leading into a long, comedic tangent about forgotten sports stars, tricksters, and the fading popularity of tennis.

“Generally, if you’re going to call someone a legend, shouldn’t somebody... know who they are?”
— Tom Hauser (75:25)

• The guys reminisce about tennis’ golden eras (Borg, McEnroe, Sampras, Williams sisters) and ponder why tennis has lost mainstream appeal.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I was actually drunk every day, which is the reason for the drought."
  — Joe Soucheray, dryly recalling his 1988 (03:30)

• “Marcus Welby no longer on the air.”
  — Tom Hauser, dismissing a dated reference during a discussion of airline emergencies (31:37)

• “Well, that then I would really be doing fake news.”
  — Tom Hauser, reacting to the idea that he should just invent scandals (50:31)

• “When you close the garage door, make sure nobody is standing nearby!”
  — Tom Hauser, on the perils of DIY (72:47)

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Structure & Flow

The episode flows as a patchwork of local color, personal stories, and political insight, always returned to common sense with humor and skepticism. Tom leads with seasoned broadcaster ease, balancing banter with real expertise. The roundtable dives deep into Minnesota quirks (weather, music, political delegate systems), offering informed (but never overly earnest) commentary on the day’s regional and national headlines, always leaving listeners both amused and up-to-date.

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Listener Takeaway

For Garage Logic regulars and newcomers alike, this episode is a living time capsule of Minnesota’s summer, political drama, and “logic over outrage” news. Politics, sports, weather, and everyday foibles blend into a uniquely Midwestern audio town hall — where everyone has a story, an opinion, and a joke to share.

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[Joe Susherer]

And now, from the mayor's office above

[Chris Reivers]

the boathouse on the east shore of

[Tom Hauser]

Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight king, fireworks commissioner and director of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susherer.

[Joe Susherer]

But first, I have the records for the day. Ah, wow.

[Josh Arnold]

Very good.

[Joe Susherer]

101 degrees in 1988 was the record high. The record low. 44 degrees in 1972.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you, Kenny.

[Josh Arnold]

Yep.

[Chris Reivers]

You're not Joe.

[Tom Hauser]

I am not. I'm a lot of things, but I am not Joe. I do, however, remember where I was in 1988 during that heat wave. Do you remember what was significant about 1988?

[Rook]

Severe drought.

[Tom Hauser]

Very severe drought.

[Joe Susherer]

I was actually drunk every day, which

[Rook]

is the reason for the drought.

[Tom Hauser]

Okay, so nothing's changed. So we're just.

[Joe Susherer]

Now I can't even finish a beer.

[Tom Hauser]

I was. I was working down at WHO Television in Des Moines, Iowa. I had just started there, and that first summer, you know, the tall corn state, it was just like a barren landscape. Oh, Lord, it was dirt. It was like. Like a dust bowl.

[Rook]

Wasn't that fresh green corn stalks that you would normally see?

[Tom Hauser]

And it also reminds me that summer of 88, anybody here or in the audience ever had chiggers?

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Susherer]

Yes.

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Susherer]

We're from Minnesota.

[Rook]

We've all had chigger joint down in Iowa.

[Joe Susherer]

Chiggers, burgers.

[Tom Hauser]

I was. Yes. I was doing a story at a Christmas tree farm in the summer of 88, and about how the Christmas tree crop for the six months later was in jeopardy because of the drought. And I've traced it back to there. But it did alarm me to all of a sudden have these little welts appearing all over areas that you don't like to talk about.

[Rook]

Yeah. What do they do?

[Tom Hauser]

Parties.

[Rook]

They just get.

[Tom Hauser]

After you leave these little red welts. Usually where you've got like a confined area. Socks, underwear, belt line.

[Rook]

Oh, boy.

[Tom Hauser]

It was.

[Rook]

They just make themselves at home.

[Tom Hauser]

They do make themselves at home. I've only had it just that one time, but when he brought up the 101 in 1988, that summer, right away it was. It was bad up here too. But in Iowa, you know, you're 300 miles at least.

[Rook]

We got lakes you can jump into around here.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. At that time we had a reservoir. I think that was really the only lake really in Polk County. The Sailorville Reservoir. Anybody?

[Rook]

I think I Just drove through Iowa. I was down in Seward.

[Tom Hauser]

Did you see a lot of lakes? Did you?

[Rook]

No, not at all. It was. It was a pretty dry run, so to speak. No pun intended. I'm sorry.

[Tom Hauser]

No alcohol either.

[Rook]

No, it was. It was a dry run.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes, that's correct.

[Larry]

Yes.

[Tom Hauser]

Anyway, that's what reminded me of that summer of 88. And that was the summer I had moved back from Fort Myers, Naples, and

[Rook]

people working your way back up.

[Tom Hauser]

Working my way back up here. And people thought I was nuts for leaving paradise. And I took a job in Des Moines, which I grew to love and spent, you know, four and a half years there and. But going from the summer in Florida is no picnic either.

[Rook]

No, I would not want to live there year round.

[Tom Hauser]

That would be 91 and humid every single day. Up here it was more of a dry heat. It was also 100 degrees.

[Rook]

I don't know if I buy that, but okay.

[Tom Hauser]

No, it was. It was bad. But at least in. In Florida you had an ocean. You could. Or the Gulf of Mexico you jump into, which in the summer I referred to as the world's largest Jacuzzi.

[Chris Reivers]

Is that the same thing as the Gulf of America?

[Josh Arnold]

Whoa.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. I think they are. What? I think they are synonymous.

[Rook]

I got it.

[Tom Hauser]

But the Gulf of Mex America was.

[Rook]

They changed it again.

[Tom Hauser]

They changed it.

[Rook]

I'm gonna have a tough time keeping up.

[Tom Hauser]

It was. The water temperature would be like 89 or 90 degrees. It was not even refreshing. And it's salt water. So you jump in and not only is it not refreshing, but you feel like you're coated in salt.

[Rook]

No, thank you.

[Tom Hauser]

And even the swimming pools, because they just have the sun beating down on them all day. The swimming pools were not refreshing.

[Rook]

No, I would not. I couldn't live. I would love to live there, but I just don't think I could live there year round because the summer is like.

[Tom Hauser]

No, I haven't lived there. I would say the ideal time to be there would be October until the end of April.

[Rook]

Six months in a day.

[Tom Hauser]

Yep. Yeah.

[Rook]

That's all you need to know and you gotta prove it. And you get a great tax deduction.

[Tom Hauser]

Just make sure you run your. Your credit card through a. Through beach bar for six months in a day.

[Rook]

Right, Exactly.

[Tom Hauser]

I really haven't left this tiki bar, Mr. IRS.

[Rook]

You went there every day and got the same thing? Yes. Burger and fries.

[Tom Hauser]

So anyway, that. That stirred up some memories there. That 101. I do not remember. 72. I was a little too young for the 44 degrees. Half of you probably weren't.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, no, not.

[Tom Hauser]

Not the half of them. You guys might not even been alive then.

[Rook]

I was 4.

[Tom Hauser]

You were 4.

[Rook]

It was late 68.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, I was 11. Reavers.

[Chris Reivers]

I was born in late 77, so

[Tom Hauser]

you were not in 72.

[Rook]

Johnny Hyde doesn't want to review.

[Johnny Height]

Yeah, I don't. I was 15.

[Rook]

Wow.

[Tom Hauser]

I. I was. I was 11. Deep into my face, deep in my baseball card collecting, and he was seven.

[Rook]

But he was mentally 30.

[Joe Susherer]

There's a roadie for the Grateful Dead in 72

[Tom Hauser]

now. I was just on the road, literally, in Duluth. I ran my 40th marathon, my 10th.

[Chris Reivers]

Are you insane?

[Tom Hauser]

Your 40th?

[Rook]

He's in the club. He's got all six.

[Tom Hauser]

My. I've done all seven World Marathon Majors. They keep adding them. Was it Australia?

[Rook]

Now?

[Tom Hauser]

Sydney, Australia. I did last August, but they've added Cape Town, South Africa, and get this. Last year. They added it last year?

[Rook]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

Then four hours before the race was going to start, they canceled it. I haven't looked at airfares or hotel accommodations in Cape Town, South Africa lately, but I'm guessing it's pretty expensive.

[Chris Reivers]

And there were probably some very unhappy things.

[Tom Hauser]

And they canceled it because of high winds. Oh, wow.

[Rook]

For a marathon.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah. But it had to have been like hurricane type force, so they canceled it. But could you imagine. So if you want to knock that off your list, you got to go back again. Yeah, they would. They would. They would send your. They would cop your entry fee. We have a few hundred bucks, but all the airfare, everything else, you'd be on the hook for.

[Joe Susherer]

Can you buy insurance for that? For airfare?

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. You can buy trip insurance. Yeah. And I would highly recommend. Ordinarily, if I'm flying domestically, I don't bother with it. But if it's. If it's. Especially if it's something like this, you might want to buy insurance because, you know, if you get injured or something and you can't run, you know, what's the point in going.

[Rook]

But if you have run the six majors that they've set up and were in place for how long?

[Tom Hauser]

I forget.

[Rook]

For a while.

[Tom Hauser]

For a while. For a long time it was. It was the five majors. Then they added Tokyo, and now they've added Sydney, Cape Town, and then they're gonna add Shanghai. So then there will be nine majors.

[Rook]

So do you have to go back and get the new trophy? Cause you've done the six.

[Tom Hauser]

You've done that. They give a six star medal that has each of the six original, you know, majors.

[Rook]

Okay.

[Tom Hauser]

And they have not come up with a nine star medal yet. I will be long out of the running game.

[Rook]

I was gonna say. Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

Every time they come up with that.

[Rook]

My daughter in law just finished Tokyo and completed the six.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. Oh good.

[Rook]

And so she's.

[Tom Hauser]

Has she done Sydney yet?

[Rook]

No.

[Tom Hauser]

Get her to Sydney and go with her.

[Rook]

No, let's just be home and have babies. Okay. Let's quit running marathons right now.

[Joe Susherer]

According to. According to Expedia, flights to Johannesburg round trips start at about $1,000.

[Tom Hauser]

They start.

[Joe Susherer]

I have not clicked on the link because I don't need the hassle. But that's what the headline says because

[Tom Hauser]

you'll get, you'll get reminders every day about hey, still looking for Johannesburg.

[Rook]

And that's Spirit Airlines too. And they're gone. So you might.

[Joe Susherer]

They don't even have seats on that airplane.

[Johnny Height]

Right.

[Joe Susherer]

You just strap handle it.

[Rook]

Subway straps.

[Tom Hauser]

Have you ever seen that comedian who does that bit about somebody has a medical emergency on the plane and they stand up and said is there a doctor on board? Somebody else stands up and goes, this is Spirit Airlines. There is no doctor on board. Or you don't want that doctor. And then they start working their way down. There's no nurses. They're going down. Has anybody seen, you know, Marcus Weldon?

[Joe Susherer]

That's an old reference.

[Johnny Height]

Yeah, that's.

[Rook]

That's an emergency.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah, slightly newer residence. Emergency.

[Johnny Height]

Nobody on this show's seen TV since 1977. Apparently.

[Rook]

That's true.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, I couldn't think. There's so many medical show. What's the one that's been on Quiz my own station. They were not looking for a medical examiner on Spirit Airlines. At least not in this. But the. But I thought that was pretty funny. They. But they worked their way all the way down to that. And there was probably a lot of truth to that. I mean there are.

[Rook]

They wouldn't have wanted to admit it. I'm not going to carry you on Spirit Airlines for sure.

[Tom Hauser]

Just, just like in society there are hierarchies, you know, in various aspects of life.

[Joe Susherer]

Right.

[Tom Hauser]

Including airline travel. For instance. I've never been on one of those flights where you get your own bed and like Delta 1. Delta 1, Delta 1 or I don't even know what they call it.

[Rook]

That's how Emirates. Delta one is the. That's pretty nice. Yeah, but Emirates is the one that has the full on bed. You've got a screen, you got a little mini bar, you got the whole you're laying down the entire floor, toaster

[Tom Hauser]

oven, Jacuzzi, all of the things. Level two, that's just level one. Yeah. So anyway, that's what I've been up to lately. And now I'm, that's three marathons in nine months. I'm gonna take a little bit of a break.

[Chris Reivers]

I would suggest doing so as well.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah, you, you thought, you thought I should have taken a break after the first one. So.

[Chris Reivers]

That 40 is a lot, Tom.

[Rook]

Holy cow.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, speaking of breaks, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back on Garagelogic.

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[Rook]

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[Rook]

He was around for the 101 temperature.

[Joe Susherer]

So you were in Duluth over the weekend. Notice anything new up there or were you in and out and gone?

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, no, I was there. I was. I. I ran for a little over four and a half hours and then drank beer and listened to music for about nine hours. So, no, I was there for a while. I was there for three days. Anything new? I'm trying to think. It looked like pretty much the Duluth I've come to know and love.

[Joe Susherer]

The reason I ask is there's a fun debate going on right now in Duluth where the former Lester park golf course hasn't been played in a number of years and it's gone back to the wild. And the dog walkers, the dog park people have kind of taken over. It's illegal, not sanctioned for that, but they've fallen in love with it. And the Star Tribune a couple of days ago, Tom read a photo of. Looks like the most perfect spot in the state. You can see the lake from it, and it's just a virtual meadow of grass and flowers and wild things. And there's a deer walking through the scene and it's absolutely wonderful. And now the city of Duluth wants to sell it to a developer and put in Houses. That's why I asked.

[Tom Hauser]

I think I had heard the story about selling to developers, and it reminded me of the. What was the old high school up there that they'll.

[Rook]

Toppers.

[Tom Hauser]

They were going to develop it into?

[Joe Susherer]

I don't remember that story because they

[Tom Hauser]

moved into a new school. And really, any of those places up on the hill have this majestic view of Lake Superior? Yes, but you got. How many people you know want to move up.

[Joe Susherer]

It's always the people with the people with no skin in the game that want the most. You know what I mean? Like the guys that say, you got to save that barn. Okay, well, that'll cost me $175,000 that I don't have. And once I save it, it's still completely worthless. So thanks for your input.

[Tom Hauser]

And I'm still paying property taxes on it and not getting any revenue from it, right? No. So I didn't see that because, frankly, when I go to Duluth for Grandma's weekend, you make a beeline to your hotel to get out of the traffic.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

And then you're pretty much confined to Canal park and the Bayfront Music Festival. Have you guys been to a show at Bayfront?

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah, it's. It's a fun experience.

[Chris Reivers]

It's very cool.

[Tom Hauser]

I would like GB Layton played on the Friday before the marathon, and he said he's opening up for Hairball on July 3rd.

[Rook]

What a name for a band.

[Tom Hauser]

Which would be. Which would be a fun show to

[Joe Susherer]

go see, but Hairball, I'm seeing guys our age with long hair that has been heavily dyed for years and years.

[Johnny Height]

They've been around here forever.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah, they've been here for a while.

[Joe Susherer]

And shouldn't they be warming up jb, by the way?

[Tom Hauser]

I don't know. The main. The main event on Saturday night was Soul Asylum, and they. They followed Prince's old man, the New Power Generation, which was.

[Joe Susherer]

And who's left in Soul Asylum? I think it's just Perner, right? I think probably.

[Tom Hauser]

I'm not sure. And to be honest with you. What is it? Runaway Train. That's. That's the song. That's the song.

[Rook]

You're all they're all waiting for, Right.

[Tom Hauser]

And then people go, all right, I guess.

[Rook]

All right, let's go.

[Tom Hauser]

Okay. I guess I'm a little tired from running 26 miles.

[Rook]

Let's hit FITRS.

[Tom Hauser]

No, it was a. But it was a beautiful weather. Duluth is so awesome when it's not 20 below and. And blustery, which can be in the summer. Sometimes.

[Johnny Height]

It can. Yeah. I was gonna say that can happen

[Tom Hauser]

in July, in 1998. One of the times I ran grandma's marathon, literally, the sleet was coming down, you know, horizontally. I remember specifically being at the 19 mile mark where some friends of mine were working at the aid station and it was like, you want some water? Not really.

[Rook]

I don't want enough hail.

[Tom Hauser]

I want a blanket and some. Yeah. But Duluth was awesome. Now, I also have in my hands some poll numbers I don't know if you guys are interested in. We did our recent political polling. We were just talking during the break about Michelle Tafoya.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

Has put out her first U.S. senate campaign ad. And to the shock of everybody, I think we all agreed, we were shocked that she highlighted her NFL.

[Rook]

Yeah. She's in the game.

[Tom Hauser]

No, now off the sidelines. Off the sidelines and into the game.

[Rook]

That's what it is.

[Tom Hauser]

Now, I'd have been maybe more impressed if she would have gotten off the sidelines and into the football game just to see how that turns out.

[Chris Reivers]

Because one of her big deals is. Right. Keeping men out of women's sports. So she could have joined the NFL.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes.

[Chris Reivers]

See this, we call that irony.

[Tom Hauser]

I think she missed an opportunity when she was there. But I don't know if you saw our reporting last week, but I'll just run through these real quickly and get your thoughts. Well, why don't I start with the Senate race since we were just talking

[Rook]

about it before we even get to that with the polls.

[Joe Susherer]

Who.

[Rook]

I don't expect you to know this, but are we calling people cell phones? Is it online? Is it people online?

[Tom Hauser]

This particular one was all online.

[Rook]

Okay.

[Tom Hauser]

Yep. Okay.

[Rook]

Just curious.

[Tom Hauser]

People don't answer landlines anymore. No, many people don't answer cell phones anymore. If you get a call, it'll often say it's a robocall.

[Chris Reivers]

Potential spam rookie doesn't answer. Period.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah, right.

[Rook]

Even if it says Joe Sucre, Tom

[Tom Hauser]

Hauser, Kenny Olson, wife, daughter, son. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. But, yeah. So we. And Survey USA has a great track record, but it does get difficult to survey primary voters because it's a subset of. A subset of. So you're trying to find people who are likely to vote in November and then who's likely to vote in the primaries and then are you likely to vote in the Republican primary or the DFL primary? So you have to break it down. So the margin of error here is a little over 5%, which is a little more than like a general election margin of error, which will generally be more like 3 or 4%. But anyway, the story I'm working on today for 5 Eyewitness News is about the diminishing value of the party. Endorsements. Endorsements. And these poll results kind of indicate why I'm doing the story. Michelle Tafoya leads the Republican Senate primary with 36%. Royce White, who was endorsed two years ago to run for Senate and lost to Amy Klobuchar, is second at 15%. And then the guy who won the endorsement, Adam Schwarzy, the former Navy Seal, is it 7%?

[Chris Reivers]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[Tom Hauser]

Tied with time.

[Chris Reivers]

That guy got half the percentage of Royce freaking White.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes.

[Joe Susherer]

Oh, my God.

[Tom Hauser]

And now, you know the genesis of my story about why do endorsements not matter?

[Joe Susherer]

It just shows the endorsement process is a bunk. Right.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah. Well, it's the endorsement. You got to remember who the delegates are, and God bless them, because they love politics, and I love politics. But these people stay up at night thinking about politics. I go home and watch baseball or football or play hockey or go for a run. But they go to these conventions, and they. They choose candidates in this little bubble, and this is what happens. Michelle Tafoya finished second in the endorsement process. Adam Schwarze won it on the sixth ballot before she stepped aside and said, you know, we'll see at the primary. And name recognition is king.

[Joe Susherer]

I seem to remember, Tom, something about Michelle's stance on abortion hurting her during the endorsement process.

[Tom Hauser]

It did, because you've got a significant faction. I wouldn't say it's a majority but a significant faction of the Republican Party that still have that litmus test.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

On abortion. And if you. If you favor abortion rights in any way, shape, or form, they will hold that against you. So that. That is still true. It does not appear to be hurting her among primary voters.

[Joe Susherer]

Right.

[Tom Hauser]

It remains to be seen whether it will hurt her in a general election. One thing everybody's looking at, both in this race and the governor's race, is Donald Trump going to get involved? Is he going to endorse someone? Michelle Tafoya has on the record said on her podcast, you know, she begged him not to run for reelection when he did in 2024, wrote an open letter to the president saying, don't run. And that hasn't been getting a lot of traction, but it might, when it comes right down to it, although President Trump has shown some pragmatism where he might go, well, she may have said these things before, but I want to pick a winner. And if he thinks she's the best chance to win.

[Chris Reivers]

But it would go, it would go against Joe's theory where any Republican running in this state of Minnesota, they don't want the endorsement of President.

[Joe Susherer]

Well, that's what Joe says that they shouldn't or.

[Chris Reivers]

Sorry, sorry, you're correct, Kenny.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes, that is definitely not true.

[Joe Susherer]

We've had many, many arguments about that.

[Tom Hauser]

First and foremost you have to lock up. Now the MAGA base is not a majority obviously of Republicans, but it's a significant portion of them. So you can't dismiss them. But it is an endorsement from the President is a double edged sword. And so I know, well, like I know for instance in the governor's race and we'll get to Mike Lindell in a minute. I talked to him yesterday, he would love to have, he's leading her.

[Rook]

I can't believe that we'll get to that.

[Tom Hauser]

I can't believe we'll get to that number in a minute. But, but you know, this just goes to show, I mean Royce White at 15% then the endorsed candidate at 7% and he's tied with Tom Wyler, another great guy. A Navy veteran forced to retire because he was diagnosed with Parkinson's at a very young age. And great guy. These are earnest people who want to be public servants but name recognition is everything. That's why Tafoya is at 36%. And a lot of people, a lot of Royce White's 15% is average of Royce White.

[Rook]

But do you predict down the road that the, these republic, the delegates are either gonna go away or there's gonna be a big change for both parties because for the delegates for the DFL or the Democrats as well are hardcore eat, sleep and drink politics. They seem to be always out of touch because they wanna be so far left or so far right.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. And it's funny because the Republican Party, their endorsement in recent years has meant more than the Democratic endorsement. Some of you may remember back in 2010 when Mark Dayton first ran for governor, do you remember? They wouldn't let him into the convention hall.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

Up in Duluth, I literally. He had to do a press conference and talk to reporters in a little room he rented outside the convention hall. Then this guy ended up being their two term governor. On the Republican side it's more rare. But you recall Arne Carlson, that happened with him in 90 and 94 when he ran without endorsement. Again, getting back to one of you made the point about his. He was not anti abortion enough and so Republicans wouldn't endorse him. Times have changed since the early 90s. Some of you may have. In fact, Marcus Welby no longer on the air.

[Rook]

I didn't know that.

[Tom Hauser]

He wasn't even on the air.

[Johnny Height]

I was gonna say emergency.

[Rook]

Yes.

[Tom Hauser]

Anyway, so those are the numbers in the Senate race for the Republicans. Sticking with Republicans on the governor's side. Mike Lindell, rookies guy 20, 27%. Lisa Daymouth, 22%. And the endorsed candidate, Kendall Quals at 17%. So it flipped the script at the endorsing convention, which I covered. Kendall Qualls was first. Lisa Daymouth stays in second, both in the primary polling and in the endorsement battle. And Mike Lindell was third. But now he's in the lead. Qualls is in third. Damoth stays in second.

[Rook]

Go ahead, Ken.

[Joe Susherer]

Let's be honest, Mr. Pillow. He'll get stomped by Klobuchar. I mean, it'll be ridiculous. Republicans will be voting for Klobuchar before they vote for him, won't they? I mean, he's a laughingstock.

[Tom Hauser]

You know, I've given up trying to predict what Minnesota voters are going to do.

[Joe Susherer]

Tom, isn't it all about the crossover voters in this state?

[Tom Hauser]

Well, it's about the independents, right? I mean, like, let me look at the independents here.

[Rook]

Okay, why are you looking for that? Is it. What about the money? Mike Lindell doesn't have any money. He's not going to have big donors come out.

[Chris Reivers]

He's had the most donations, but he's burned through it.

[Tom Hauser]

But here's the thing. What you usually do with money is you buy name recognition. He and Michel Tafoya already have that. It's guys like Kendall Quals, Lisa Daymoth and Adam Schwarzy who need money to build their name recognition. So it's really interesting how that plays out. And I'm trying to. We've got so many subsets of numbers here. The independent vote is very important. So among. Among the three Republicans for Governor Damith and Lindell. And this might shock you, Kenny, 24%. Among independents, Lindell and Daymith are tied at 24%.

[Joe Susherer]

That does shock me.

[Tom Hauser]

Qualls is third at 19%. But here's a number to keep in mind. This is across the board overall and among independents, 24% undecided. So remember, this is. And remember this is a three way race. You need 33% plus one vote to win. So Mike Lindell at 27%, you know, isn't quite there. But there are other Republicans, lesser names. So really you don't even need 33%. You could probably win with 29%. You only need a plurality. We don't do runoffs in this state where if you're not in the top two, you drop off and then we, we do it again. So that, that is kind of fascinating. Then the last one I'll get to. When do we need to take a break or so on the Democratic side, Angie Craig. And again, this goes to the heart of the story I'm going to do for the lesbian.

[Rook]

That's against Trump.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes.

[Rook]

That's what she's running in her. That's what she's running in her ads.

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. You're not catching any aspersions.

[Rook]

No, not at all.

[Tom Hauser]

About anybody.

[Rook]

Not at all.

[Tom Hauser]

In fact, right after that, you said, not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Rook]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tom Hauser]

Is that what you were gonna say? Follow it up. Angie Craig, about five days before their convention, said, I'm not even going to the convention. I'm not even gonna try to compete. So. Because she saw the writing on the wall and so why go and have that on your resume? And the bad optics of all of that. So a very astute political move. She didn't even go.

[Joe Susherer]

And Tom, I thought that would hurt her. Not at all.

[Rook]

No.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, she has such a significant fundraising advantage of four times more money than Peggy Flanagan. And in our polling, Angie Craig. Now, this is within the margin of error. Angie Craig at 41%, Peggy Flanagan at 36%. And remember, this is our first primary poll. I expect the undecideds to shrink when we do this again in a few weeks. 18% still undecided. And then among the partisan breakdown, let's see how they're doing among independents.

[Rook]

So it's 24% for Republicans undecided for

[Tom Hauser]

this and 18% 24% Republicans, 18% Democrats. And before we go to a break, let me just find party affiliation. Angie Craig has a pronounced lead among independents, 46% to 36%. And a smaller lead among Democratic voters, 40 to 36%. But again, among independents, 17% undecided. So you're right. It's the people in the middle who decide these elections among both Republicans and Democrats. So there is the latest on the polling. You can see more about this tonight on five Eyewitness News. But first, this from our wonderful sponsors.

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[Josh Arnold]

Latte schmate.

[Joe Susherer]

Here's Joe Suzerain. One sign of a loudmouth is, well, I'm just gonna the loudmouth is me. In this case. I'm really good at giving people advice and then not taking it myself. For example, earlier this week I told a story about how my side by side is acting like a fool, stumbling and gurgling. So I immediately checked the air cleaner. It was fine. I looked, took one look at the carb and thought Nah, I'm not pulling that thing off. I'm not digging into that. So out came the Seafoam motor treatment. But I only had one of those big big cans of the high mileage treatment meant for cars and trucks with over 75,000 on that. Another thing I'm not good at is reading instructions and then taking that advice. I just went ahead and dumped a half a can of that into a full tank of my side by side. That was on Saturday. I've been running it every day since. And so far so good. Only time will tell if that actually fixed the problem and truly did save me a trip to the mechanic shop. Yeah, I should have been taking my old my own advice, which is occasionally feed your cylinders some sea foam to keep them fast and happy. Well, I hadn't done that and I ended up doing it. The preventive maintenance, which is Seafoam is also great for that if you're a dumb dumb like me and it starts acting up before you bring it to the shop. And it doesn't matter if it's a weed whipper or a D11 cat, before you do anything, put some sea foam in it and nine times out of 10, well, if it's not bad, Seafoam will take care of it. That's what's great about Seafoam. You can use it occasionally and reap the benefits for years or use it in a panic and keep that rig out of the shop. A wonderful product in a world of bad gas. Sifo.

[Tom Hauser]

A world of bad gas. Is that rookie over here.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah, if you don't know, our gas these days is complete garbage. It has a shelf life of maybe two months. It's really bad gas.

[Tom Hauser]

Wow.

[Rook]

Well.

[Tom Hauser]

And you know that Seafoam I use after a marathon as well on my joints.

[Joe Susherer]

People have been saying that to me for years as they need to get into that.

[Tom Hauser]

Lubricated by Seafoam.

[Johnny Height]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Speaking of bad gas, here's Johnny Height in the newsroom.

[Johnny Height]

Wow, thanks I guess. This news brought to you by North American Banking Company. Seven Minnesota providers are part of the national bank health care fraud takedown announced yesterday by the U.S. department of justice and Acting U.S. attorney General Todd Blanche. Altogether, the dog says 455 people in the U.S. are charged in alleged health care fraud and opioid abuse schemes. As part of the takedown across 45 states and territories. Collectively, those folks are accused of falsely claiming over six and a half billion dollars. Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison's office confirmed that Minnesota's fraud control unit charged seven people accused of more than $700,000 in total. Those charged are Tremaine Jackson, Christine Pryor, Fernando Navarro, Shaki Al Said, Ahmed Agua, Edward Sherrod and Jessica Wavar. Despite the DOJ announcing the nationwide totals, Ellison's office is prosecuting the local cases. Each faces counts of theft, false representation, the charge generally used in local fraud cases. Of the seven Minnesota cases, Ellison's office says the Department of Human Services flagged two of them. Health insurer UCare referred to Crystal, Police forwarded two, and a private citizen contacted the MFCU about one. Since 2019, Ellison's office says the MFCU has gotten 340 convictions for Medicaid fraud. Hundreds packed a Big Lake town hall as families and providers worried adult disability services might be cut off. This all happened yesterday as the Department of Human Services continued to process appeals from disenrolled providers as part of a statewide fraud crackdown. Big Lake Disability Services provider Options Inc. Hosted the town hall with area lawmakers. That same day. Options Inc. Said it got word from DHS that it had been revalidated and could continue providing services. Still, the town hall went on as scheduled as about a dozen other providers and many more families at the meeting said they were unsure whether their services would continue.

[Joe Susherer]

So nobody halfway through the meeting, John just came in and said, never mind.

[Johnny Height]

No, no.

[Joe Susherer]

They all just sat there stewing in their own anger.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, you know the thing about this fraud guilt, there is a lot of fraud, don't get me wrong. But you do get a lot of these legitimate providers who are being caught in the middle of this. But the people really caught in the middle are the people who need these disability services. And that's the saddest thing about the whole wax when it comes to fraud. That's just my 2 cents worth. Got her on the news.

[Johnny Height]

Minneapolis is aiming to have its new police chief by mid fall, according to a timeline released by the mayor yesterday. Interim Police Chief Bill Peterson right now is in the position after former Police Chief Brian o' Hara resigned four weeks ago. O' Hara resigned after an investigation found he had interfered with a prior investigation into his own conduct. Yesterday, Mayor Jacob Fry announced his six step 16 week timeline for picking a new chief, starting with project design and stakeholder engagement, a timeline then moves on to posting and recruitment, then screening interviews, first round interviews, second round interviews and final interviews and selection in October or November. The nomination will be submitted to the Ramsey City Council, Ramsey to the Minneapolis City Council for review and confirmation.

[Tom Hauser]

Could I give you some quick inside baseball on that whole o' Hara thing.

[Joe Susherer]

Please do. I was about to ask you a very complicated question about that.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, the way it went down that day was fascinating. About 10:30 that morning, I got an email from somebody in the mayor's office asking if I would like to have the Mayor and Chief O' Hara on issue, my Sunday morning show that week. And I forget what day of the week this all happened, but it was Tuesday, I believe.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

And we record the show on Fridays. I said, yeah, we actually have an opening. We could. We could do it this week. And like I said, that was, like, at 10:30 in the morning. And then later that night, I was home from work already. And then this whole thing came down about, what, 6:30 or 7:00 clock at night? And all of a sudden, O' Hara's being blown up. This is literally hours after they were pitching, having them come on my show to talk about public safety in Minneapolis. So that's how quickly that story developed.

[Joe Susherer]

So Coles has been doing crabby coffee shop podcasts with me, and we've really been rankling some people on both sides of the aisle. And I'm wondering if you were one of the media members, along with the mayor and some other select people that received a letter. When Brian was appointed our police chief, did you receive a letter from somebody in New Jersey pointing out all the bad things he had done there? Were you one of the recipients?

[Tom Hauser]

I did not. Not me specifically, but I do vaguely remember something like that.

[Joe Susherer]

And the mayor actually made reference to that or somebody in the mayor's office reference to that shortly after he stepped down. And I've never. We've never. And Cole's got the letter, of course, and he couldn't find it. So we. We can't read that letter. But it would be a lot of fun to read that. And Jay was very happy when all of this happened because he's been sitting on stuff about the chief for years that he couldn't report without the proper. You know, without a number of sources confirming it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rook]

Do you mean to tell me that Jay Coles, with his. His fine filing system, is not able to retrieve a letter found years and years ago?

[Joe Susherer]

Here's Jay's reaction. I don't know. When I asked him. I don't know.

[Chris Reivers]

I don't know.

[Joe Susherer]

They probably threw it away when they moved my desk.

[Larry]

I don't know.

[Tom Hauser]

You guys probably don't realize this or remember this, but Jay was also in charge of the recordings in the Oval Office during the Nixon administration.

[Larry]

I Don't know.

[Tom Hauser]

That gap. I forget.

[Rook]

It was really quiet. It was really quiet.

[Tom Hauser]

17 or 23 minutes. Jay was put in charge of that.

[Joe Susherer]

It's called the Cole's Gap.

[Tom Hauser]

We can't find it. We don't know what's on there. But what if that ever turned out?

[Joe Susherer]

It's been a lot of fun working with him. You really get a lot of insight as to how the news business works. And I know we're in the middle of the news right now, but just let me vent one second. You, along with Kohl's and reporters, investigative journalists at all the TV stations, all of you are getting the blame for the fraud, even though all of you have been reporting on it since the teens, which is hilarious to me. And this day, if you would have done your job better, this wouldn't have happened. Well, they were doing their job at the time. They reported on it. You didn't notice it.

[Tom Hauser]

If you could be more like Nick Shirley, we wouldn't be in.

[Joe Susherer]

Right, right, right. And I have come full circle with Shirley. We needed his followers to bring this to light, and that's where I'm at. Even though he stole all of that

[Tom Hauser]

stuff from local reporters, he didn't really uncover anything.

[Joe Susherer]

No, he did, but he brought it spotlight on it.

[Tom Hauser]

He made the entire Somali community seem like very scary people, as you can see in the video. But. But I looked one day, wasn't that long ago, I looked on our archives for the first time. We did a story on CCAP, fraud, childcare, 2011.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

And then the legislative auditor did stories as a result of that. And there were all these things that were. That were put in place that were supposed to stop this, but I mean, we're talking 15 years ago, and you got a lot of people. And a lot of it is because of social media now.

[Joe Susherer]

Absolutely.

[Tom Hauser]

It gets more pervasive. So a lot of people are learning about this for the first time, and then they're blaming us for. Well, why haven't you been cutting on it? Not to mention they think somehow we have subpoena power, which we do not. If there is not a paper trail for us to look at, it's hard for us to uncover fraud, call someone out until there's a paper trail. And so anyway, I concur with what you're. With what you're saying, but sorry about that, John. We didn't mean to hide you.

[Johnny Height]

That's. That's fine, Tom. In fact, as you know, Tom, a lot of people would prefer that you just made up some Stuff that went along with what they think. See, then you, then you're doing the news. That's what they.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, that then I would, then I would really be doing fake news.

[Johnny Height]

Exactly. Why don't we take a quick break here before we get to national news and hear from our friend Mr. Chris Reaver.

[Chris Reivers]

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[Joe Susherer]

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[Johnny Height]

Thank you Kenny in national and international news, the Republican majority US Senate backed legislation yesterday to halt US Military action against Iran, but it's not really clear how that would affect the conflict as President Trump's administration negotiates a agreement with the Islamic Republic. The Senate vote was 50 to 48 in favor of the concurrent resolution which passed the House of Reps this month. The vote was nearly along parliament party lines, with four Republicans joining all but one Democrat in favor and two Republicans did not vote. The resolution directs the president to remove US Armed forces from hostilities with or against Iran, but is likely to remain merely a symbolic vote. President Trump this morning abruptly canceling plans to sign bipartisan housing legislation, saying he would refuse to take action on the measure until Congress passes the long stalled bill he's championed that would impose strict new voter eligibility rules. The move ratcheted up tensions within his own party hours before a closed door lunch with Senate Republicans, many who have repeatedly told him the voting bill has no path to passage. In a series of social media posts this morning that surprised lawmakers on Capitol Hill, the president said the housing bill, which passed both chambers with overwhelming majorities, was of minor importance compared with his other priorities. The president had been scheduled to appear at a signing ceremony for the bill at the Capitol at noon, but hours before that, the White House trumpeted the housing legislation as a pillar of the president's affordability agenda. And even on Tuesday night, White House press secretary Caroline Levitt heralded the bill as one of the, quote, most significant pieces of housing affordability legislation in American history. Didn't matter. The president calling off the signing this morning about two hours before it was to be signed.

[Tom Hauser]

And John, just as a quick aside on that, one of the in one of our poll questions was what's the most important issue to voters in Minnesota, it's cost of living and affordability. And the President is just focusing on that Save America act because he thinks it's his best path to protecting Republicans in the elections. And it just isn't going to happen. They don't have the votes in the House or the Senate to pass it and it just, it's astounding. But the housing thing had bipartisan, bicameral support and yet it's in limbo.

[Johnny Height]

New York City Mayor Zohar Mamdani waded into Democratic US House primaries to boost three progressive over establishment backed candidates. And all of them won yesterday, defeating two incumbents and essentially ensuring two self described Democratic socialists will be elected to Congress in their deep blue districts. Mayor said it was a question of electing what he called better Democrats who would put working people back at the heart of politics. The approach causing worry for some in Democratic leadership. But political watchers say the outcome showcased Mamdani's rising influence. Rook.

[Rook]

Yo.

[Johnny Height]

Good news here. Perhaps you can verify all this.

[Rook]

Tell me.

[Johnny Height]

To find out which airports are the most and least stressful, the team at airport transfer provider Mozio analyzed FAA traffic data for the 20 busiest airports in the country. They looked at three things. How often flights are delayed, how much it costs to park and how long it takes to actually get into the city. It said if you're looking to skip the stress, your best bet is MSP airport. That's correct. Twin Cities number one is rookie mentioned

[Tom Hauser]

in there at all?

[Johnny Height]

He wasn't.

[Tom Hauser]

Okay, I talked preceded by the word despite.

[Rook]

Yes. Despite his efforts.

[Johnny Height]

Minneapolis St. Paul, they said is the least stressful airport in the country. Finding an 81.5% on time rate and a 20 minute drive into town. The most stressful airport of the 20, Chicago's O' Hare Airport.

[Tom Hauser]

I'll vouch for that.

[Johnny Height]

Yeah, that airport earned a high stress score because more than a quarter of flights there run behind schedule and it's a 60 minute trek just to get to downtown Chicago.

[Rook]

And if they have any type of weather with all the traffic coming in, they'll go into a, an air traffic control hold where they can't accept any planes to come in.

[Johnny Height]

All right, well, we're going to give you credit for that number one rating.

[Rook]

Thank you. Thank you. I'll be running for the Metropolitan Airports Commission depending on who's going to be governor here in November.

[Johnny Height]

A French doctor who is working in the Democratic Republican of the Congo has tested positive for Ebola. After returning home, France's health ministry said the patient had been on a humanitarian mission and is currently isolating. Those who may have come into contact with the patient are being traced. And the general risk the outbreak presents in Europe still remains low. Last week it was revealed that the first line of defense against the deadly strain of Ebola had collapsed. The DRC is facing its largest ever outbreak of the virus, with nearly 781 infected and 267 dead. But Oxfam has warned that true toll is likely far higher as the country's contact tracing program and water infrastructure are at a breaking point. Infectious disease experts say the US led the response to the last Ebola outbreak by. But now, with the dissolution of U.S. aid and the U.S. leaving the world Health Organization, the illness was able to get a stronger foothold from the outset. Some science news. A new electronic nose developed at UC Berkeley. UC Berkeley can detect the sense associated with spoiled food much more accurately than the human nose. Why is this important?

[Chris Reivers]

Why is it important? We're all wondering.

[Johnny Height]

It can also sniff out the presence of food allergens like walnuts and peanuts. And that technology now can be added to refrigerators to let you know if your food is dead.

[Tom Hauser]

I want to put that in my refrigerator. Bells and whistles going off all day long.

[Johnny Height]

Be throwing everything away all day. Is that what you're saying? One of those deals. And researchers have identified a new Australian spider that catapults its prey into the air with an acceleration about 15 times greater than that experienced by jet pilots. A two person team spent 10 nights in the rainforest recording the nocturnal species with high speed and infrared cameras. The camera spends up to four hours spinning tension lines into a cone on a leaf, a branch or the forest floor. Researchers suspect it releases pheromones to lure green ants, the spider's only prey. When an ant bites the cone, the trap launches the insect about a foot into the air in a fraction of a second and into a primary web where of course, the spider eats it. The snare like contraption is the first known web triggered by the prey rather than the predator. And the first designed to target a single species. They haven't named the spider yet. It's been called the ballista spider after an ancient Roman weapon that was used used to launch stones. I did watch a video of this. It was fascinating. I know it doesn't maybe sound that fascinating, but it was fascinating to watch.

[Tom Hauser]

You may need some pictures to go with it.

[Johnny Height]

Yeah, it does.

[Tom Hauser]

But people actually spend time and get paid to research this stuff.

[Johnny Height]

10 nights. 10 nights they spent in the rainforest doing that.

[Joe Susherer]

Wow, you couldn't pay me enough to do that.

[Rook]

Yeah, that's rainforest. See you later.

[Tom Hauser]

Did they also discover some new strains of mosquitoes while they were out there?

[Rook]

I'd want my Airstream trailer for sure. In the rainforest.

[Johnny Height]

And do you like dark humor?

[Tom Hauser]

Sure I do.

[Johnny Height]

I love dark humor. I think we all do, don't we? I don't know about Tom. I don't know Tom well enough. But yeah, I think the four of us. In 2017, psychologist Ulrich Willinger conducted a study at the Medieval University of Vienna on gallows humor. Through the experiment, Willinger's researchers found that people who enjoyed jokes about morbid or dark topics had higher levels of verbal and non verbal intelligence. Additionally, participants who appreciated such jokes tended not to be as aggressive as those with more conventional senses of humor. Those findings lined up with one of Sigmund Freud's theories on the subject as proposed in Freud's 1905 book, Jokes and their Relation to the Unconscious. All in all, 156 adults took part in the study. Verbal intelligence was measured using a vocabulary test. Researchers also analyzed non verbal IQ tests for the study. In addition, questionnaires were used to accurately assess the aggressiveness and mood states of everybody who took part.

[Tom Hauser]

So you're telling me Freud wrote a joke book?

[Johnny Height]

I think it was about

[Rook]

small short ones.

[Joe Susherer]

A man Watch your into. Let's see. A man walks into a room where his mom is naked.

[Rook]

Yes.

[Larry]

Yes.

[Rook]

Why the long face, John?

[Joe Susherer]

About once a day the roommate says to me, you're a really sick f and says, never say that to me again. I don't want to hear you talking that way in front of me again.

[Johnny Height]

That just proves how intelligent you are. See?

[Joe Susherer]

And then I tell her, your problem is you don't like having fun, which I tell everybody these days.

[Johnny Height]

You do, don't you?

[Chris Reivers]

Including the guys on that chair.

[Tom Hauser]

Is that it? John?

[Chris Reivers]

Speaking of having fun, Harmony Spirits is here for you, Tom Hauser. And I know you have been asking me about this. We do have breaking news. Well, it's somewhat breaking news. It's been around for a while here. But you can now purchase your spirits online. That's right, harmonyspirits.net, you just click the Buy Online tab and you are going to have your favorites sent right to your front door. It's never been easier to stock up on your go to bottle of the best spirits made right here in the great state of Minnesota. From grain to glass. You can now enjoy Harmony Spirits three different ways. Visit the tap room in Harmony, Minnesota, which is going to be another wonderful stretch of weather. You can swing by your local liquor store and ask for the Harmony brand by name or order it online from anywhere with just a few clicks. It doesn't matter what you're looking for. The gin, the rum, the vodka, the bourbon, the whiskey, it's all there for you. And if you stop in at that taster, do yourself a favor and get one of those wonderful four packs and you are not going to be disappointed at all. Once again, say hi to Larry, say hi to Damon, say hi to the entire Harmony Spirits crew at that tasting room and also place your order online. Today, it's harmonyspirits.net and please let them know you heard about them here on the Garage Logic podcast. Hang on.

[Joe Susherer]

You'll learn more here by accident than elsewhere by design.

[Chris Reivers]

Here's Joe Succiare.

[Rook]

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[Joe Susherer]

Valor Pest Solutions Tom, where is KAAL tv? It's one of our outfits.

[Tom Hauser]

That is my alma mater down in. Well it used to be in Austin, Minnesota. It is now in Rochester, part of the Austin, Rochester, Mason City, Iowa Market.

[Joe Susherer]

They had a story two days ago that really hit home with me because knowing very little about politics has never stopped me from shouting at the top of my lungs about how stupid the upper tier of the Republican Party is here in the state. And don't get me wrong, I'm a conservative and I've been so frustrated with their picks for governor throughout the years. And I'm sure you remember Carnahan, Jennifer Carnahan and what a debacle her reign was. So Peggy and I believe we had her on GL here one day when I was missing was one of the people at the convention, was she not?

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. And in fact she was supposed to initially. I moderated a debate up there the Thursday night before the convention started. Yeah, she was a last minute scratch because they said she did not have the number of signatures and various things required to be considered for the endorsement.

[Joe Susherer]

She said something in this piece I'm reading from Kaal. Do we say K double?

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah, you can. K A L is a lot easier to say.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah. A sentence here that really hit home with me. Peggy says the dysfunction management along with clear favoritism towards pre selected candidates is just plain wrong. And I was cheering out loud when I read that. And then I scrolled down and read the leadership's response, response to Peggy and it kind of became clear on why things didn't go her way at the convention. Am I right?

[Tom Hauser]

Yes. Well, what did they say? What part are you referring to?

[Joe Susherer]

We understand. I'll just read it. It's all italicized, it's long. We understand Representative Bennett's disappointment that her campaign did not gain support. She may have hoped for that. That said, the rules and requirements applied to her were the same as the rules and requirements applied to every other candidate. And her campaign missed multiple deadlines. Despite repeated outreach from party staff and colleagues, she did not properly compete. The nomination process for the committee failed to meet the original signature requirement deadline and only submitted signatures after the deadline was extended to accommodate her. The signature requirement is a basic requirement under party constitution and applies to all candidates and it goes on and on.

[Tom Hauser]

And as I recall that was not very onerous either. I, I forget how many signatures, but it was not a big number.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

And so I, I don't know exactly what went on there, but I know it was all very last minute and I did hear the same things that they're saying that she had not, not complied with what it takes. She. Let's be honest. And I've interviewed Representative Bennett A few times. She had no chance of winning the endorsement. Right. She could have run in the primary if. If she wanted to.

[Joe Susherer]

Right.

[Tom Hauser]

I don't believe she is running. So I. I guess I'm not sure that it requires all of the upper management in the state Republican Party. Historically, it was.

[Joe Susherer]

It was a real roller coaster for me because I saw the headline, Tom, and I thought, oh, God, finally. And then I read the story and it's like, oh, okay. Well, may. I don't know that you have much of a case.

[Tom Hauser]

You're going, oh, maybe they were right. I hate that.

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah. Yeah. But I've. I've placed the blame on the shoulders of the upper echelon of the Republican Party for not getting us the proper candidates to run for governor. I thought the last two candidates we had that went against walls were. I'm sorry, folks. I thought they were a joke. And I thought we could have done a lot better with Kendall at that time.

[Tom Hauser]

And the Republican Party has just been so hamstrung by no money. They have no infrastructure like the Democrats do. The Democrats. The DFL party in the state has so much money.

[Chris Reivers]

I was looking at the list of the contributions and what Klobuchar has raised. All the other candidates on the other side don't even equate to half of what the amount of money she's raised. And that's. Collectively. It's unreal.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah. And that's just her as a candidate.

[Chris Reivers]

As an individual candidate.

[Tom Hauser]

Then you've got the DFL Party. You have the alliance for a Better Minnesota that has a lot of the Dayton Rockefeller money involved. Literally. And the Republicans don't have that equivalent.

[Joe Susherer]

Tough to come up with in Minnesota.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah. Which has. Has been a problem Kenny was going to mention to you before. I just wanted to warn you that when you were doing that precision garage door ad earlier, Reverse was saving the audio where you said lubrication. Yes, please. So I just want you to know tomorrow.

[Rook]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

That may be in the intro.

[Rook]

Hang on.

[Joe Susherer]

That could be one of my doors. Course, Tom, the left side closes earlier than the right side.

[Tom Hauser]

Seriously.

[Joe Susherer]

It goes down. Left side seals right sides.

[Tom Hauser]

It is like a race. Do you sit through? Because I. Yeah. At the same time to go. You're. You're with the water gun going in the wall. You're expecting there to be a different outcome every time.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Joe Susherer]

And then the other door, the cable comes off the left side about once a month. I have to put the cable back in backup.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, one thing struck me that you said earlier. Yeah. You Know, I thought about installing a couple of garage doors. Yeah, I can do that.

[Rook]

Yeah, no problem.

[Tom Hauser]

That that whole scenario has never even come close to entering my mind.

[Joe Susherer]

And not only Tom was I so confident that I didn't bother reading the instructions. The first go around, give it the eye. You look at a garage door and you go yeah, I can do this, no problem. And then, then halfway through you go, where the hell are those?

[Tom Hauser]

When you were done, did you have a, did you have a handful of parts still left over when you thought it was done?

[Joe Susherer]

They're in a box called extras. Yeah.

[Rook]

The word alignment should scare the hell out of anybody that's not a professional.

[Tom Hauser]

In other words, never. When you close the garage door, make sure nobody is standing nearby.

[Rook]

Oh God, a mile away.

[Tom Hauser]

It might come down a little sooner than anticipated.

[Joe Susherer]

I really thought I was a champion that day. It has not worked out for me.

[Tom Hauser]

I just have one and final thing today, I'm sure. Do you guys get the emails from PR companies pitching guests? Oh yeah, all the time to come on your show and you get on these mailing lists, you're not even sure how they find out. Like I have a political show. So keep in mind it's a political show. Should be readily available to anybody at these PR companies when they're trying to micro target their messaging. Here is an email I got from a little less than an hour ago pitching to me a segment about 2026 Wimbledon segment to discuss the life, career and global perspectives of Franco Iranian tennis great and trick shot artist Mansoor Barami.

[Rook]

What the hell?

[Tom Hauser]

Has anybody in this area heard of Mansoor Harami?

[Johnny Height]

No.

[Tom Hauser]

And back in the day I used to follow tennis. Right. And they say the preface to his book he's got out is include beyond borg and John McEnroe. So yeah, I've heard those two. So I just want to read the preface. I don't think I need to read the book.

[Rook]

They're going to a big ad, a big blitz, Craig, big ad campaign.

[Tom Hauser]

So he and Mansoor and I think you guys should have him on. Mansoor Bahrami and Hamid Gharavi will be available for interviews from Monday, June 29 through Monday July 13. Dwayne, Wimbledon.

[Rook]

So a real short span there.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah. And it says we've all seen the viral videos of tennis legend Mansoor Barami.

[Rook]

I have no idea who this guy is.

[Tom Hauser]

Stunning the crowds with his trick shot. I'm sure he's very good.

[Rook]

What could a trick shot be between the legends legs behind the back, maybe under the Armpit, run a long way

[Tom Hauser]

and then hit it over your head.

[Rook]

Sound like a pool tournament.

[Tom Hauser]

Bounce one off your foot? I don't know. And it says the crowds cheer and applaud after every point, marveling at his tremendous skill and vision.

[Rook]

He's the Harlem Globetrotter. Singular.

[Tom Hauser]

Now he will not be on at issue this week.

[Rook]

Oh, you're not booking see him.

[Tom Hauser]

That's your clothes.

[Rook]

Hey, by the way, way we got this crazy nutty guy that does trick shots in tennis.

[Tom Hauser]

And of course you all know him.

[Rook]

Yeah, manure.

[Tom Hauser]

Generally, if you're going to call someone a legend, shouldn't somebody. All of us are fairly well read. Well, other than rookie, we're all fairly well read and follow culture and sports to a certain extent.

[Rook]

We know Bjorn Borg McEnroe, Monica Selis, Tracy.

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, Austin, Mansour Barami. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing his name.

[Johnny Height]

He's got two titles. I went looked him up.

[Tom Hauser]

Well, what kind?

[Johnny Height]

Genita Geneva opened in 1988 and the Toulouse Grand Prix in 1989.

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, he's a race car driver too?

[Joe Susherer]

Yeah.

[Rook]

The track too loose, let's wreck.

[Johnny Height]

And who was asking, Rook, was it you? About what he does for, you know, fun. The shots he fake serves.

[Josh Arnold]

Nerves.

[Rook]

Oh, that old trick.

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, I do that. I do that without even trying.

[Johnny Height]

Slow motion miming, which would be weird. He hits balls backwards between his legs,

[Tom Hauser]

just like you said that was coming.

[Johnny Height]

Plays while lying down, seated or kneeling. So there you go.

[Rook]

That sounds like a really fun.

[Johnny Height]

He's 70 years old now, so.

[Rook]

Oh, well, they're just rolling.

[Tom Hauser]

You know, it's funny, the closer I get to that, the younger that seems. Yeah, I'm sure he's. I'm sure he's very spry for 70.

[Rook]

Young 70.

[Tom Hauser]

He would like. You know, maybe he's the new Bobby Riggs he could take on.

[Rook]

Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, well, you don't want to take on Billie Jean now. Who's in there? I. I gotta admit, I don't.

[Rook]

I don't.

[Johnny Height]

No idea.

[Rook]

I have fallen off the tennis.

[Tom Hauser]

I and I used to my house. We used to watch, you know, breakfast. The majors. Yes, we watched all the majors.

[Rook]

French open, New York, U.S. open, open.

[Tom Hauser]

And now. Yeah, and now.

[Joe Susherer]

When did you stop? Because I can tell you when I stopped.

[Rook]

Pete Sampras.

[Tom Hauser]

I would say probably Monica Sellers in the late 80s. Probably.

[Joe Susherer]

Oh, I took it right till the veer very end of the Williams girl.

[Rook]

Oh yeah. But you watch for completely different reasons.

[Tom Hauser]

You were looking for the great Thing you could pronounce their names. You remember Venus and Serena Williams. Now it's.

[Rook]

And the old man. Oh, they're gonna be hanging out and smoking some weed. They're gonna be. Dad was great.

[Joe Susherer]

It was absolutely nothing like that. Dum Dum. We watched both male and female. And every single tournament there was, including Wimbledon, we were there for every single match on. During Wimbledon. And we just realized the other day, we don't know any of these people because we haven't watched in years. And we stopped when Serena quit.

[Rook]

Yeah. Why has tennis fallen off, though? I mean, I don't know.

[Tom Hauser]

Because it's a. It's a great. It's a fun sport to watch.

[Rook]

Yes.

[Tom Hauser]

And you're. You can actually follow. You can follow a tennis ball easier than a hockey puck if you're watching on television. But I think after Agassiz and some of those, I just. I stopped. I think it's because we don't have as many dominant American players as we used to, although in the. Was it. Which major did they just have? Was it the. Oh, it must have been the French Open. Now they call it. They keep referring to it as the Roland Garrow. Yeah, that's the name of the stadium. You can't change the name to the French Open. Right.

[Rook]

Arthur Ash.

[Tom Hauser]

But there was a big upset. A woman who was, like, ranked 29th or something. And so that piques my interest, but to this moment, I couldn't tell you what her name was, largely because I can't pronounce it.

[Rook]

Is that what we're always rooting for in tennis, for the underdog to beat the, like, the major favorite, or do we always want the favorites to win?

[Tom Hauser]

Well, I used to love Martina. Against. Was it Martina and Chrissy?

[Rook]

Chrissy Everett Lloyd. Yeah.

[Tom Hauser]

Or just Chrissy, because she kept changing

[Rook]

her last name and it was Martina. Chrissy, Billie Jean King. Monica.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah. Margaret Court. No, that goes back a little further.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, you're really.

[Tom Hauser]

I remember when I was a kid, I used to see Arthur Ash. Rod labor, who had a great. Oh, yeah, Rod Laver was. And Stan Smith. I used to wear Stan Smith tennis shoes. Yeah. Is he a opera singer?

[Rook]

No, he was a test guy.

[Tom Hauser]

No, he was. Yeah, he was. He wore the headband.

[Rook]

Yeah. He was a goofball.

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah.

[Rook]

Thank you. G ers.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

What?

[Johnny Height]

Chris. Chris. Stopping everything.

[Tom Hauser]

When was the last time we turned this into a discussion about why has tennis faded in popular.

[Chris Reivers]

Well, I will. I do have a tennis story. You know how we always talk about being poor growing up? Well, you know Remember when the Reebok pumps came out?

[Rook]

Yes.

[Chris Reivers]

And my mom said I found a decent pair. They were the tennis pump Reebok shoes. She didn't know the difference. So I got made fun of thoroughly at Faribault Junior High School.

[Tom Hauser]

Did they have little buttons on them?

[Chris Reivers]

Don't you remember the pump tennis shoes?

[Tom Hauser]

Yeah, but they had a little pump it up.

[Chris Reivers]

But it was a tennis ball, not a basketball. So I had the tennis ones instead of the basketballs that everybody else had.

[Rook]

Right.

[Tom Hauser]

These were shoes.

[Chris Reivers]

Yes, tennis.

[Tom Hauser]

But they had a little button on them that you'd push and pump them up. See? Cause I thought your mom had gotten those really cute cheap pair that you actually needed a bicycle pump.

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, no, no.

[Tom Hauser]

Awkward to carry. We were poor, but we weren't that you would get beat up every five.

[Rook]

We were poor enough when all my buddies had the leather Nikes. I got the canvas Nike.

[Tom Hauser]

Oh, sorry about that. Wow, you still look scarred by that. Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you, Tom. Thanks for coming in and having us.

[Rook]

Thanks, mom.

[Chris Reivers]

Please do us a favor and hit the subscribe button on the Garage Logic YouTube channel where you cast watch the show every single day starting at noon. And you can also see full segments. There's video shorts, there's behind the scenes footage. Just search garagelogic. That's two words on YouTube along with all of our social media channels. That includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That's an email that comes right to your inbox each and every single day. And it also includes most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more and sign up today [e-mail] it is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And Josh, a question for you because you and I have had conversations over the years and I've always wondered what would you give advice to? Whether it's A time investor, a long term investor. What are some of the general principles that you try to apply in terms of investing?

[Josh Arnold]

The easiest answer, Chris Growth will out. Growth will out. Invest for growth. Most people would say, josh, if you buy growth, aren't you paying up growing companies? Well, you might be and then again you might not be. Because the next question is, well, isn't buying value oriented companies, companies with the lowest price to earnings multiples, the lowest price to sales multiple, isn't that better strategy than going just for growth? Well, the idea is that growth will out. And that has been proven to me and proven to other investors time and time again, again over long periods of time. Growth will out. Now there are a lot of companies that will say in their infancy or when they're, there's just an idea out there that those companies that are involved in the fastest growing industry and there become more and more of them tend to skyrocket very quickly in value and then it is found over period of time that they're not earning money, that their sales aren't growing, their sales aren't growing. Something has stalled out. And these stocks which have been, we'll say rocket ships, crater and fall to earth and the winners sometimes out of that group are those that have had the staying power and really do have growth, do have an idea, do have products or services that are in demand and they start eventually moving ahead. There of course are those companies that are very steady growers that have again products and services that people want, people need at some point. Yes, these companies do have a mature industry or mature in terms of their growth and the growth slows. These companies then pay out dividends at a higher rate or end up buying back shares, another form of paying investors for them. If I look at an old, and I say an old growth company like Coca Cola, which I have talked about for many years, a very slow old growth company, it doesn't grow at 10 or 12 or 20%, but it's a very steady mid single digits grower. And they do grow their dividend every, every year and they do buy back some shares and they have a product or actually several products that people can't be without, water for one and say milk, juice, juice, coffee, tea. Coca Cola as an example, sells over 200 products in over 200 countries around, around the world. Very, very steady company. Is it going to go to the moon? No. Is it going to provide a level of safety? Oh yes, and it's going to provide a very nice dividend yield that's going to grow over Time I'll say one of the the best investors long term Warren Buffett has included Coca Cola in his portfolio. Berkshire Hathaway for decades at the price that he originally bought bought it and added to the shares, yes have gone up. But what has increased even more is the dividend. The dividends that are paid out out and the dividends that are paid out relative to his cost basis give Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett a dividend yield we'll say in excess of 15% but again that's over a long period of time. And Coke a just an old staid company on the other hand a company that started growing fast, faded, came up with new products, saw the growth accelerate and then would fade, then come back with newer products and now just is I'll say is one of the largest companies in the world and they provide a product and service that people really can't be without. That is Apple. Apple now has 2.4 billion iOS users and at least one and a half billion iPhone users. And if I look at most people are going to be replacing their phone every four to five years and when they replace the phone they're going to need more memory, need more storage and they'll probably get more services from app is no longer growing at 20 or 25%, growing at a single digit rate. But Apple does buy back shares and does increase their dividend as a product or service that people can count on and generates tremendous amount of cash flow. I'll say so much cash flow and so much cash that the countries in which Apple operates rates, the governments all want a piece of Apple's Apple business and they attempt to go after Apple as a monopoly. That said, Apple is a very, very steady growth company and even with all the fluctuations and worries that the analysts have over the next iteration of the iPhone, this company could well continue to perform on a very, very long, long term basis. That's an example. Both Coke and Apple are examples of first faster growing companies and then companies that become steady growers. And those are types of companies that for longer term investment you should look look at growth will out. That is I'll say the biggest bit of advice Chris that I could give any investor. The other piece is always keep cash available because inevitably in any given year the market is going to pull back 5 to 10% 3 to 4 times during the course of the year year. And having cash available to add to positions is, is beneficial now in putting together any portfolios, you know, for myself or my clients and my money is in the exact same spots that my clients money is in. I'll say we go in together and out together on new purchases. My focus always has been companies around the Internet, Internet companies involved in leisure China related businesses without necessarily being in China because that's still faster growing part of the world real assets such as real estate and to keep a portion of money available for short term trading or for opportunities and by we'll say concentrating in the portfolio, concentrate our focus in the portfolios in those areas I have found better opportunities for growth than in other sectors of the marketplace.

[Chris Reivers]

That's why we come to you for the straight talk and never ever sugarcoat advice. Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day. We'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Thank you very much.

[Chris Reivers]

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