6/4 Banning local dog park leads to discussion about how much land should be returned to Native Americans

Summary

Garage Logic Podcast – Episode Summary

Date: June 4, 2026
Episode Title: Banning local dog park leads to discussion about how much land should be returned to Native Americans
Host: Joe Soucheray (“The Mayor”)
Panel: Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, John Height, Ellis, Rookie

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Overview

This episode of Garage Logic centers on a local Minneapolis controversy over closing an off-leash dog park found to be situated on indigenous burial grounds. The guys dive into a broader conversation around land acknowledgments, the "give back the land" movement, historical context of indigenous land claims, practical and philosophical implications, and the perceived excesses of progressive politics. Other topics range from political radicalism (featuring examples from New York and Boston), Minnesota’s primary system debate, SNAP fraud, and even odd stories like flesh-eating screw worms and ancient yeast bread. The tone is lively, irreverent, skeptical, and quintessentially “Garage Logic” in its celebration of common sense and pushback against perceived modern absurdities.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. Emails & Listener Rulings (02:26–05:47)

• Listener emails spark nostalgia and provide fodder for light-hearted banter about family, camping at Minnesota state campgrounds, and “the kids I used to have.”
• Ruling requested on whether it’s acceptable to wear a T-shirt received from a granddaughter even if it features the "fraud flag"—Soucheray says wear it:

  “The grandkid gave it to you. You better wear it. That's my rule.” (05:34 - Joe Soucheray)

2. The Dog Park Controversy & Land Back Debate (05:47–20:43)

Background & Geography (06:19–07:21)

• Minneapolis Park Board considers decommissioning Minnehaha off-leash dog park due to discovery of indigenous burial sites after an archaeological study.
• The dog park is below the bluff, across the river from St. Paul’s Hidden Falls; area is historically significant to tribes.

Skepticism Over Burial Sites (08:26–10:54)

• Joe and the crew question whether burial sites would realistically survive the natural erosion of riverbanks:

  "What indigenous people would bury someone on a riverbank? You’d be washed away." (08:39 - Joe Soucheray) "You can’t... Who would bury somebody on a riverbank?" (10:01 - Ellis)

Broader Indian Land Issues (10:54–14:34)

• Kenny Olson comments that essentially all of the upper Midwest was once indigenous ground; slippery slope if we start “giving land back.”

  “The entire state of Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas…All the tribes push through…There were many, many wars, tribal wars.” (10:54 - Kenny Olson)

• Joe rails against the "give the land back" idea, questioning where such logic would end:

  "Either give it back or shut the hell up. Just give it back. Shut up." (12:24 - Joe Soucheray) "Where would that stop? It could not stop." (12:53 - Chris Reavers)

Burial Practices Clarified (13:45–14:34)

• John Height notes research showing that some tribes did bury near water and on river bluffs due to spiritual reasons; sometimes remains were placed in trees or canoes.

Philosophical Land-Use Questions (17:04–18:00)

• The chat expands to the concept of public land and the tension between “sacred” sites and shared community use.

  "Are we gonna reach a point in this country where we no longer will be able to share so called public land?" (17:50 - Joe Soucheray)

Example: Pike Island (15:44–16:53)

• Kenny recounts the 1862 Dakota War aftermath, when Natives were interned on Pike Island, now respected as a sacred site with unmarked graves and strict rules.

  “That island is full of unmarked graves...there’s a vibe down there on Pike Island.” (16:11 - Kenny Olson)

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3. Wider Culture War & Political Extremes (26:56–44:48)

Politics – The “Land Back” Crowd (26:56–28:21)

• Joe reads about a New York congressional candidate advocating land acknowledgements and the abolishment of borders, police, prisons, private property—all as part of a leftist/“give it all back” mentality.

  "She describes her location as occupied Lenape land. Acknowledging indigenous claims to New York City. You can't make this stuff up." (29:12 - Joe Soucheray)

Boston’s “Trans Period Pride” Event (33:17–36:12)

• The show mocks Boston Mayor Michelle Wu for supporting a “Trans Period Pride” event with free period underpants, characterizing this as self-parody of modern progressive activism.

  "This used to be one hell of a country." (34:53 - Joe Soucheray)

Political Party Extremism & the Caucus System (37:47–44:48)

• Strong critique of Minnesota’s political system, especially party caucuses, for amplifying the most extreme voices:

  "The most rabid attendees at the caucuses...are the most radical wings of both parties." (39:41 - Joe Soucheray)

• Soucheray proposes eliminating caucuses in favor of direct primaries to select candidates, sparking a debate about participation, name recognition, and the future of party politics.

  "If all we have is primaries...Do your homework. Go to the primary and vote." (42:23 - Ellis)

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4. Policy, Crime, and “Common Sense” Debates (54:08–62:14)

• News coverage includes Medicaid fraud investigations, arguments over the ShotSpotter gunfire detection system in Minneapolis, and skepticism regarding “gun violence” as a concept:

  "There is no such thing as gun violence. There’s violence committed by humans who sometimes commit violence with guns, but there’s no such thing as gun violence." (60:40 - Joe Soucheray)

• Discussion of increasing fertilizer prices due to global conflicts.

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5. Recurring Garage Logic Humor & Banter (63:08–64:48)

• The team swaps cringe-inducing stories about dead mice smells in their homes and cars, signature to the show’s quirky, everyday-man musings.

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6. Oddities, Science & More Politics (76:56–83:09)

• Coverage of “new” flesh-eating screw worms (fascination and disgust), and paranoia over “engineered ticks” causing red meat allergies:

  "You don't want to get the flesh eating screw worm." (77:12 - Joe Soucheray) "These are sick people. They don't want you to eat meat so they determine it themselves. Go bleep yourself, Western Michigan." (82:27 - Ellis)

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7. "This Day in History" and Local Color (87:32–93:18)

• The traveling Linemans recount their cruise through pirate-infested waters, protected by Royal Marines.
• Local history snippets: Pillsbury Company’s foundation, GI statue in France, episodes of music and race in 1950s California.
• Notable moment on rock and roll:

  "[Authorities] banned it from public gatherings, hearings after police broke up a party where teenagers danced to a black band...It made rock and roll." (91:17 - Joe Soucheray)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the dog park/land back:

  “Either the Euphorians have to shut up or they gotta give everything back. Because there’s no winning here for anyone.” (17:06 - Joe Soucheray)

• On “Progressive” culture shifts:

  “This used to be one hell of a country.” (34:53 - Joe Soucheray)

• On political systems:

  “The parties have been taken over by the extremists in both parties. That’s the point.” (43:17 - Joe Soucheray)

• On public vs. sacred land:

  “Public land is meant to be shared. Are we gonna reach a point in this country where we no longer will be able to share so called public land?” (17:50 - Joe Soucheray)

• On historical land acknowledgments:

  “You start it by saying, 'we’re on stolen land,' Then give it back and shut the hell up. Just give it back. Shut up.” (12:24 - Joe Soucheray)

• On ancient yeast bread:

  “Scientists identified yeast living on and within [Otzi the Iceman’s] remains and even used it to bake a loaf of sourdough bread.”
  “Come on, what’s wrong with you? That’s worse than eating earwax." (70:08 - John Height, Kenny Olson)

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Segment Timestamps

• Emails/Rulings & Dog Park Setup: 02:26–06:00
• Dog Park & Sacred Land Debate: 06:19–20:43
• Political Extremes / Land Back Discussion: 26:56–44:48
• ShotSpotter, Crime, Medicaid Fraud: 54:08–62:14
• Dead Mouse Stories & Auto Mishaps: 63:08–64:48
• Strange Science & “Tick Conspiracies”: 76:56–83:09
• This Day in History & Local Anecdotes: 87:32–93:18

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Tone & Approach

The episode blends skepticism, humor, and a sometimes curmudgeonly vibe as the hosts tackle both local and national news stories, grounded in a worldview that prioritizes common sense and is openly critical of what they see as irrational, radical, or performative progressive politics. Listeners get a mix of news, social commentary, and Garage Logic’s signature blend of blue-collar wisdom, irreverence, and nostalgia.

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Useful For:

• Listeners interested in the intersection of local policy, cultural debates, and history.
• Those wanting a “main street” viewpoint on controversies surrounding land acknowledgments and political extremism.
• Fans of Garage Logic’s witty, offbeat delivery and camaraderie.
• Anyone wanting context for the news behind Minneapolis’ dog park controversy and a snapshot of broader debates over American identity and public policy.

Transcript

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[Ellis]

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[Ellis]

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[Fanfare Announcer]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now from the Mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susher.

[Ellis]

Like to fly through a few emails if you'll indulge me.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Fanfare Announcer]

What if I said no?

[Joe Soucheray]

I'd do them anyway.

[Ellis]

The mink wrote. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I remember the kids I used to

[Joe Soucheray]

have thing being a little different.

[Ellis]

I recall that you had mentioned your

[Joe Soucheray]

kids on the air in the time

[Ellis]

of radio and you were instructed by

[Joe Soucheray]

them or the CP to not bring

[Ellis]

them up on the show ever.

[Joe Soucheray]

But you had already mentioned them. So when you mentioned them again, they became the kids I used to have. I think he's absolutely correct. I think that's exactly what happened because

[Fanfare Announcer]

we will get the occasional email saying, oh, I didn't know Joe lost a child.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, but the mink also also thanks us for having the Lyman's in. He thinks the lineman's were great.

[Chris Reavers]

That was fun.

[Ellis]

I do too.

[Chris Reavers]

A couple of different pilots today. That was a very good show.

[Kenny Olson]

We could have talked to them for hours.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, they're nifty.

[Kenny Olson]

Fascinating.

[Ellis]

This one is from Krista out in Maryland. She sent me a video of a regional baseball playoff game that West Virginia

[Joe Soucheray]

University won against Kentucky.

[Ellis]

She says, you know, I'm a Maryland

[Joe Soucheray]

gal, but my geographic location puts me

[Ellis]

pretty close to West Virginia, the home

[Joe Soucheray]

of the West Virginia Mountaineers.

[Ellis]

Morgantown, West Virginia is where we Western Marylanders go do all our doctoring and shopping. Dr. And so she sent me this video and the West Virginia one. And afterwards they all line up on

[Joe Soucheray]

the first baseline and sing that nifty song, West Virginia.

[Ellis]

Bye. Take me home, John Denver.

[Joe Soucheray]

She was really cool.

[Fanfare Announcer]

John Denver's full of S, man.

[Ellis]

And Brent writes, I enjoy camping with

[Joe Soucheray]

a child I used to have and

[Ellis]

her husband and kids.

[Joe Soucheray]

So his daughter. And that would be his daughter, stepdaughter, his son in law and the grandkids.

[Ellis]

We have camped at numerous Minnesota state

[Joe Soucheray]

campgrounds over the years. I happen to believe our state campgrounds are a true gem of this great state. And in case Kenny asks, I drive a Ford pickup, not a Subaru. Anyway, anyway, I received a gift from my granddaughter, a T shirt from Jay Cook State Park. We camped there last summer. In addition to the of the campground, he's seeking a ruling which will be forthcoming. In addition to the name of the campground on the T shirt, there is a small fraud flag on the front of the T shirt.

[Ellis]

I didn't bother pointing out to my

[Joe Soucheray]

granddaughter's parents as I learned from a past conversation that this topic would fall on deaf ears. When I previously brought up the fraud flag versus the traditional flag discussion, my son in law simply responded, I don't care. You know, I got bigger problems to worry about.

[Ellis]

I guess that was his way of

[Joe Soucheray]

saying two plus two is five. You're right.

[Ellis]

Have fun.

[Joe Soucheray]

I need a ruling.

[Ellis]

Since the T shirt was a gift for my granddaughter, can I make an exception and wear it in public or

[Joe Soucheray]

does it have to be thrown in with the garage rags? You know the grandkid gave it to you. You better wear it. That's my rule. As simple as that.

[Chris Reavers]

Throw it on every once in a while. Let the kid know that everything's good.

[Ellis]

I never thought I would be talking

[Joe Soucheray]

to people about a dog park.

[Chris Reavers]

It's a dog park. Great campaign.

[Joe Soucheray]

I saw a piece on the news last night, CBS, 10 o' clock news.

[Ellis]

I would have watched Channel 5.

[Joe Soucheray]

But the last four minutes of NBA games take 15, 20 minutes. So I didn't watch it. The Knicks won on the road, huh? They did by 10 in the last four minutes. I'm not exaggerating. Took 20 minutes and I can't take it. I just. That's not my game.

[Ellis]

Anyway. On the floor they had a story about the Minneapolis Park Board is considering closing the Minnehaha off leash dog park after discovering it sits on sacred tribal land. And they had film of the people down there with their dogs. And occurred to me that the park

[Joe Soucheray]

itself, the off leash part, must be below the bluff.

[Ellis]

It's south of Minnehaha park itself.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Ellis]

It's directly across from Hidden Falls.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Ellis]

So, for example, on the St. Paul said, if you were at Hidden Falls, you'd look across the river and there would be people with dogs frolicking.

[Chris Reavers]

Many times I have.

[Ellis]

Have you seen that?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right, so that must be the

[Ellis]

dog park down there. And a park board committee. That becomes important where it is to

[Joe Soucheray]

my way of thinking.

[Ellis]

Okay, a park board committee. I have no horse in this race.

[Chris Reavers]

You don't have a horse or a dog. Yeah, you don't even have a dog in the race.

[Ellis]

The park board committee passed a resolution

[Joe Soucheray]

on Wednesday that would decommission the off leash dog park. Now, the resolution will be considered before

[Ellis]

the full board later this month. This space means a lot more and

[Joe Soucheray]

there is a lot more history to it than we had previously known, said Park Board President Tom Olson.

[Ellis]

Olson said the significance came to light

[Joe Soucheray]

after an archeological study was completed last

[Ellis]

year when the park and Rec Board voted to install fencing around the dog park area. Olson didn't share specifics, but said there

[Joe Soucheray]

are burial sites on the land.

[Ellis]

He said members also have received input from an indigenous advisory council.

[Joe Soucheray]

We understand that this is an important amenity, but we have to kind of readjust what our expectations and use of that space is, Olson said. And, you know, people weighed in on both sides of the issue.

[Ellis]

So I, God help me, I never thought I'd be going down a dog park rabbit hole.

[Joe Soucheray]

But I started doing some homework.

[Ellis]

The Mississippi original path is here.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wrote it down.

[Ellis]

The original path of the Mississippi. How old do you think that is the original path? Well, I mean, millions, 70 million years old, right? Okay. That's the original path. The Mississippi that we know, the gorge that's only 10,000 years old. When the ice age was retreating, we were left with this beautiful gorge. St. Paul on one side, Minneapolis on the other. So I got to thinking, what indigenous people would bury someone on a riverbank? You'd be washed away.

[Chris Reavers]

I find that.

[Ellis]

Now, I'm not picking sides here.

[Chris Reavers]

I'm just saying you're looking for common sense.

[Ellis]

Well, I got news for you. If in native people going back hundreds, thousands of years were buried down there, now maybe the burial sites are above it. I don't know. But the park itself seems to compel the owners of dogs to frolic on the beach.

[Chris Reavers]

There really is no above it.

[Ellis]

Well, how could that be?

[Kenny Olson]

Falls down.

[Ellis]

How could that be interfering with burial sites if it did, I've got news for you. There's nothing left there. Washed away a long time ago.

[Josh Arnold]

Right.

[Ellis]

You can't. Who would bury somebody on a riverbank?

[Chris Reavers]

And the native people were very smart.

[Ellis]

The native.

[Chris Reavers]

Right away.

[Ellis]

You would think so, Right.

[Kenny Olson]

That whole area is considered sacred to the natives. Coldwater Spring.

[Ellis]

But Coldwater Springs is way farther south than this dog park.

[Kenny Olson]

I wouldn't use the word way farther.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Ellis]

It's south of the dog park.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Ellis]

And is it Coldwater Springs above the river?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, it is, by two blocks itself.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, okay.

[Kenny Olson]

But, yeah, you're right. It is. It's on top, right? Yep.

[Ellis]

Correct. I really. I don't know where to go with this, but apparently some geological studies have revealed that this. This could have been burial sites. And all I'm wondering is, well, how

[Joe Soucheray]

could that be if it was on the river? Because there wouldn't be anything left of a burial.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, I'll take it even further. The entire state of, oh, I don't know, Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas. It's all sacred Indian ground. I mean, they all. All the tribes push through Wisconsin and Minnesota and into the Dakotas, I'd even. And there were many, many wars, tribal wars.

[Chris Reavers]

Iowa, Nebraska. I saw native presence there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. I was leading up to this because this.

[Kenny Olson]

I didn't mean to give it away.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, that's. All right.

[Ellis]

This leads up to a new focus

[Joe Soucheray]

on this whole let's give the land

[Ellis]

back BS that Euphorians engage in. Where would you stop?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, you can't stop. Literally from sea to shining sea, Joe.

[Ellis]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

From Mexico to Alaska.

[Ellis]

Here's a. Here's a brief example. I mean, you got a dog park there.

[Joe Soucheray]

And the.

[Ellis]

Some indigenous studies have proved. Have insisted that, hey, you shouldn't have a dog park. It's there because that was a sacred burial ground. Well, first of all, I don't know

[Joe Soucheray]

that because again, it's on a beach.

[Ellis]

No one. If somebody was buried there 5,000 years ago, they are long gone. Secondly, where do you stop? Because as we've pointed out, the Indians

[Joe Soucheray]

beat us to the punch here. We weren't here.

[Ellis]

So you want to stand up at the U of M and give a welcoming ceremony to your graduating class of doctors.

[Joe Soucheray]

And you start it by saying, we're

[Ellis]

on stolen land, Then give it back and shut the hell up. Just give it back. Shut up.

[Chris Reavers]

Not to you.

[Ellis]

Yeah, everybody shut up about it. Either give it back or shut up.

[Kenny Olson]

Would that be enough, though, to ease their white guilt? Would that. Would that help? Would they finally be able to give

[Ellis]

up your house, your driveway, your lawn, the whole deal? Just give it up?

[Chris Reavers]

No, because like Joe's point, where would that stop?

[Ellis]

It could not stop.

[Chris Reavers]

Where would that stop?

[Ellis]

But the failed academy has resulted in a current ideological culture in which the United States is churning out young people who have such a hatred for this country. Not a hatred. Yeah, well, contempt for this country because they think it's all unfair and it should never have happened. And the founders were screwed up. And B, as in B, S as in S. It's here, we're here, let's get along. Let's make some changes if we have to. But shut up with give your land back. Otherwise, give it back and live in A. I don't know where you're going to live. I don't know where the hell you can go and live. Where can we go to cleanse your conscience? I have no idea where we're supposed to go. Does anyone have an idea where we're supposed to go?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't.

[John Height]

I. I've just been studying. I've barely been listening because I've been studying where Native Americans buried people.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[John Height]

It's fascinating.

[Ellis]

Do they bury them on a riverbank?

[John Height]

Very much so, yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well.

[Ellis]

And they didn't last long in their burial site.

[John Height]

They felt being close to the water was important. And they also buried them on a lot of river bluffs because it was spiritual.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I'll give you the bluff.

[Ellis]

Yeah, but if you buried Chief so

[Joe Soucheray]

and so on a riverbank, he's now

[Ellis]

in New Orleans somewhere.

[John Height]

They also buried them in trees and put them in a canoe by the riverbank.

[Joe Soucheray]

John. Which gives further impetus to the idea that the whole place is sacred. Where are you going to stop determining that you're standing.

[Ellis]

So you can't have a dog park here. Well, I don't care where you put the dog park. Apparently that will be on land that

[Joe Soucheray]

obviously was indigenous population years ago.

[Fanfare Announcer]

May I ask a question?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Fanfare Announcer]

We give up the dog park. All right.

[Kenny Olson]

Here you go.

[Fanfare Announcer]

It's. It's sacred land. What are you going to put there then? What's it going to come?

[Ellis]

Apparently you don't do anything.

[Fanfare Announcer]

It's going to be an open lot which is going to turn into homeless and can't.

[Ellis]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's heavily, heavily treed. And like we've been talking, it's below a bluff. Not easy to get to. No roads, just. Well, the last time I was there, there were no paved trails.

[Ellis]

Okay. How did the dog owners get down to the beach?

[Kenny Olson]

Just walk the trail down the hill.

[Ellis]

There's parking above there.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

On that little parkway section that goes from 54th up to the falls.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

There's. There's parking there.

[Ellis]

And then you walk your dog down

[Kenny Olson]

to the beach and then there's parking along the road that goes down to Coldwater Spring. Yeah. You lock them up and you go for a walk.

[Chris Reavers]

It's not like anything. It's not.

[Kenny Olson]

The last time I was there, that's what it was. You're right. Matthew, you want to get really, really dark about this?

[Ellis]

Sure. Let's go.

[Joe Soucheray]

Let's go.

[Kenny Olson]

Here. The supposedly called. I think it's a. They shouldn't call it this, but they call it the Dakota War, 1862. They interned a whole bunch of Native Americans on Pike Island. Pike island is that little tiny.

[Ellis]

I've walked it many times. I know where it is.

[Kenny Olson]

It separates the Mississippi and the Minnesota right before the conference.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's not even that tiny. It's a pretty sizable island.

[Kenny Olson]

It was loade with lodges down there, teepees, lodges, et cetera. They were so afraid of the white men there that when one of their kids or one of their loved ones died, they'd snuff out the fire in the middle of the teepee, bury their loved ones, and then start the fire again over the top of them. So there's. That island is full of unmarked graves, but it's treated in a sacred manner. You're not even allowed to ride your bicycle there. If you're going over the bridge, you have to either park your bicycle or walk it. And let me tell you something. You get a weird feeling when you're walking around down there, the hair kind of stands up on your neck and there's, there's a vibe down there on Pike Island.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I, I, I walked it a number of times and I never really gave it the indigenous consideration. If I walked it again, I would.

[Ellis]

The point is,

[Joe Soucheray]

either the Euphorians have to shut up or they got to give everything back.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because there's no winning here for anyone. No matter where you put. Let's say you find some new place for the dog park. You're going to run into the same problem. If you want to look at it that way.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. You know what? I would like an informative sign or plaque or two telling me what's going on here. I would love that. I'm a sucker for that. I pull over for all of that crap on the highway. Every single one of them.

[Joe Soucheray]

See, it raises some really interesting philosophical questions too. We can make the presumption that the

[Ellis]

dog park's on public land that's part

[Joe Soucheray]

of the park system.

[Ellis]

It's part of the public land.

[Joe Soucheray]

Public land is meant to be shared. Are we gonna reach a point in this country where we no longer will be able to share so called public land?

[Chris Reavers]

I hope not.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow. And then where do we go? What does that do to the national parks? This is.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, the problem also is the natives didn't keep records of, you know, Chief Daniel is parked right here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mean that you can't go to Mueller's mortuary and look it up.

[Chris Reavers]

You can't look for, you know, they're in section G. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can't do that.

[Chris Reavers]

Right. We don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

We have people over in Lakewood. And when you go in there, there's bike riders and there's dog walkers. And it never occurred to me to be angry about either one of them. And I didn't think it was disrespectful in any way. But, you know, it's a different culture.

[Joe Soucheray]

An indigenous spokesman, Gary Spears, said, we have a religious freedom act as the native people here. And the dog park is infringing on that. Okay, Why does this only come up now? If the resolution passes, says Olson, the head of the park board, it's likely the off leash section of the dog park would close sometime before the end of this year. And then you've got the dog owners weighing in saying you can tell there's a lot of history in that land and it's just really cool to be there. And I think it gets more use because of the ability to bring animals when you visit, this is some gal saying this. There's got to be a way we can still use the land together. Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Like Cold Water Spring, you know. Have you been there? It's. It's fascinating. I used to ride bicycle down there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Used to ride a bicycle.

[Kenny Olson]

I used to ride bike down there.

[Ellis]

You drove truck to bring bicycle when it was a.

[Kenny Olson]

The Bureau of Mines had a building there which was a top secret facility during World War II. And they tore that down and they, they really cleaned up the area nice. And now it's called an oak savannah. And it's just so awesome. And Coldwater Spring is right there. It's a wonderful place. Really enjoy that part of town. And you remember all the fighting that went on when they rebuilt Hiawatha, don't you?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, I do.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. It's all in that area.

[Chris Reavers]

But if the dog owners are not mistreating that land, if they're picking up after themselves, and I think in dog parks, dog owners usually do that.

[Joe Soucheray]

I have no idea. I would think the whole purpose of a dog park, you don't have to fool around with it. Maybe for all I know, you got to pick it up. I don't know.

[Chris Reavers]

No, you got to pick it up.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

So are we going to take a break and then come back with the airplane? Emergency landing up in the Red Lake reservation.

[Joe Soucheray]

I didn't know that.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a fascinating story that was finally resolved. A guy from Polaris town flying his airplane engine goes bad. He lands on a road in the Red Lake reservation. The, the Indian band there. The tribe took his plane away.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh.

[Kenny Olson]

Because he was trespassing in the air. And it was a big, big, big argument and fight. And it was finally recently just settled. And he was allowed to go in there with a truck and. And pull his airplane out of there. Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reavers]

Oh, that's right.

[Joe Soucheray]

And for six months you don't do anything. And on the six month day, you take that pack out, put a new one in, close her up, she's good. For the next six months you don't think about it. It's the only way to keep cigars and it keeps them fresh. It's sharp, it works and you don't have any fuss about it. This would be a great Father's Day gift because everyone can use a little affordable luxury in their life. It's the Boveda humidor. B O V E D A uses the Boveda humidity packs. Boveda humidor Boveda humidor.

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[Joe Soucheray]

I have a number of politicians in mind who would be very amenable to the idea of giving everything back. There's a congressional candidate in New York endorsed by New York City Mayor Zolran Mamdani. Her name is Darieliza Avila Chevalier. Chevalier. And she's. Because she gets closer to some probability of winning, she's had to delete a previous Twitter account that included thousands of posts and reposts expressing support for abolishing police, abolishing prisons, abolishing borders, as well as her her desire to seize private property and nationalize major industries and calling into question Israel's right to exist. Okay. She's a 32 year old investigator at a public defender's office in New York. She's a doctoral student, of course at the failed academy. She has emerged as one of the most prominent left wing challengers in the country after Mamdani endorsed her bid to unseat longtime Democratic Republican Adriano Espelot in New York's 13th congressional district.

[Ellis]

But the post from her since deleted

[Joe Soucheray]

account from over the last decade have drawn scrutiny amid her high profile challenge of Espalat, who is a five term incumbent and chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus. The primary is June 23 and has become a closely watched battle between the Democratic Party's establishment and and it's ascending socialist wing. With Mamdani's endorsement last week elevating the race's national profile. Well, this is a woman who does not like the country and she has her reasons. And she doesn't like cops. She doesn't like Israel, she doesn't like Democratic politicians. She doesn't like private property. She doesn't like borders. She doesn't want any deportations. She said those posts do not reflect who she is today. Well, yes they do. Of course they do. And it goes on to say she'll take on corporate greed, bad landlords, DC's broken political system. Sure you will, honey. I mean, they all do. Don't you? I don't want to read any more about her, but that's an example of a politician. Could you see in all seriousness that she would obviously wish to give everything back, much less a dog park. She wants to abolish the border. All deportation is wrong. Her Twitter profile biography also at one point included the phrase how communist of you. I don't know what that means, but oh. She describes her location as occupied Lenape land. Acknowledging indigenous claims to New York City. You can't make this stuff up. Let's go from a dog park in Minneapolis to the entire city of New York. And here's a candidate, a Democratic Marxist socialist who would be very comfortable with figuring out some way to give New York City back.

[Chris Reavers]

Trump, you gotta give back Trump Tower. We got a thing there.

[Joe Soucheray]

She wants the government to take over sweeping parts of the economy. Well, Trump's done that. The repost advocating nationalizing utilities, hospitals and pharmaceutical companies. Suspending rent and mortgage payments you shouldn't have to pay. Dissolving private health and seizing all properties from landlords. Holy mackerel. Other delinquents. Deleted posts and reposts include references to communism and anti capitalist politics. In one April of 2020 post, Avia Chevalier wrote that while most of the political theory she had read was communist, the pyromania associated with anachronism is very intriguing to me. She said what? Seizing the means of production, she wrote, is a phrase commonly associated with Marxism. The deleted posts included repeated calls for abolish the press. During nationwide protests in 2020 following the killing of George Floyd Avila. Chevalier responded to a user asking what a better slogan would be than defund the police by by posting F blank blank Ku leap. You. We're going to defund and abolish. You don't get to water down our movements. Okay. They don't want. Boy, she doesn't really. She doesn't like.

[Kenny Olson]

Dude, did you see the backstabbing that happened here?

[Josh Arnold]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

To get the endorsement.

[Joe Soucheray]

I. I didn't.

[Kenny Olson]

This is really confusing. You're talking about Chevrolet. How do you pronounce that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Chevalier.

[Kenny Olson]

Chevalier. Well, she's running against this espellant Right. Character who endorsed Mondami, thinking he would get an endorsement back.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Instead, he's endorsing this. This galaxy.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't read most of what she posted because it's vehemently profane. She doesn't hold back. In a poster in 2021, she shared a message declaring that all pigs everywhere are haram. Haram. An Arabic term used in Islam to describe something that is forbidden. She is a Muslim convert, by the way. The deleted posts also reflected hostility toward prominent Democrats couched in profane terms after Bernie Sanders ended his 2020 presidential campaign. And there you go.

[Kenny Olson]

When you read about her, you think there's no chance she'll get elected.

[Joe Soucheray]

Au contraire.

[John Height]

I know.

[Kenny Olson]

Exactly.

[Joe Soucheray]

And then we have the mayor of Boston who I think would be amenable to wiping out dog parks. Her name is Michelle Wu,

[Ellis]

and in

[Joe Soucheray]

her cabinet, she has the Office of LGBTQ Advancement. All right. She's facing now some backlash online after promoting. I didn't think it would come to this in my lifetime that I would actually be saying this. She's promoting a Trans Period Pride event.

[John Height]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

What does that mean?

[Joe Soucheray]

Do I have

[Chris Reavers]

read that again?

[Joe Soucheray]

A Trans Period Pride event at a public library centered on menstrual equity.

[Ellis]

Hey.

[Chris Reavers]

For the kids.

[Fanfare Announcer]

So not a period, as in like a session of school. You know, you have first period.

[Chris Reavers]

What do you mean by period?

[Kenny Olson]

Is this for breeders or non breed?

[Joe Soucheray]

A Tuesday post featured a graphic with a pink tampon and the blue menstrual pad reading, join Mass Now Massachusetts and the Massachusetts Trans Political Coalition for a consciousness raising discussion on menstrual equity and the experience of trans menstruators. This used to be one hell of a country.

[John Height]

You know, you miss the best part if you show up for that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

You get a free catered dinner and free period underpants.

[Kenny Olson]

What are the underpants?

[John Height]

I don't know, Kenny. I'm just reading.

[Joe Soucheray]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

It comes with something built in, like.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I see it here, Jazz. I see it here.

[Chris Reavers]

Sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

You get a free period underwear provided to all attendees.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is supported by the Mayor's Office of L and LGBTQ Advancement Team, the Boston alliance of LGBTQ and Youth, Bagly, whatever that is, and the Massachusetts Transgender Political Coalition.

[Kenny Olson]

You're going to have to help old Kenny out here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you. You stand in line, son.

[Kenny Olson]

Is this. Is this for non lactating individuals?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, it's for anybody who wants menstrual equity.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, don't you understand your equity here?

[Kenny Olson]

I guess I'm very confused.

[Joe Soucheray]

On its website, the Mayor's Office of LGBTQ Advancement says it develops policies community oriented programming and provides resources for the city's diverse. LGBTQIA2s +345679. Gonzaga, Godzilla, community. Do. I'm not going to go on.

[Kenny Olson]

How is this being received in Boston?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, there's feedback. We got. We got notes here that say WU has denied reports in the past that city funds were used to support a programming program offering LGBTQ migrants $500 in wellness perks after a local advocacy group advertised the benefits and later scaled back its description and backlash. There's so many acronyms in this story that it's pointless to read it. So they got the. You know, they got the period thing going. So you got that going for you.

[Kenny Olson]

Boy, Boston has changed quite a bit since the old Tea Party days, huh?

[Joe Soucheray]

And if you don't think these are people who would. Who would give. Who would declare the United States unofficial and it must be torn asunder. You're crazy, because that's what's happening now. This is where. Now, never mind. What are you gonna do?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I think we all know.

[John Height]

We all know.

[Kenny Olson]

Just take the next thing on the list. What's the next thing on the list? Focus, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I began thinking about this old moment of silence for Chauvin, which is fired spectacularly.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, staying in the news the way I thought it was.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, the Start Tribune is printing every letter it can find about.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I. I stopped with the letters. I. I'll admit I stopped with the letters.

[Joe Soucheray]

But I got thinking. The average G LeR in Minnesota is not representative. Which is tantamount to saying the average law abiding, tax paying, employed human citizen of Minnesota is not represented at the endorsing conventions of either party. Now that.

[Ellis]

And you have to be fair here and say, well, you could be.

[Joe Soucheray]

You could go to caucuses, try to

[Ellis]

get yourself elected as a delegate to

[Joe Soucheray]

the endorsing convention and go.

[Ellis]

And that's. And the people who are there are there legitimately. They earned that right by giving up their Saturday in April or whatever it

[Joe Soucheray]

was, and they went to their caucuses

[Ellis]

and they got themselves a delegate position at either the DFL or the Republican endorsing convention and off they go. But what we've learned most, generally speaking, the people who advance to the endorsing conventions are the most rabid of that particular party. And the most rabid of both parties now are extreme radicals. I don't think that's hyperbole. The most rabid attendees at the caucuses and therefore the most rabid attendees who become endorsing convention delegates are the most radical wings of both parties.

[Joe Soucheray]

Both.

[Ellis]

So they end in the Republican case. They get up to Duluth and only a radical would come up with the idea that Chauvin was treated unfairly. He didn't murder anybody. He's just a white cop who was made a scapegoat of. That's a radical position. I don't care where you stand on the Chauvin George Floyd thing. That is a radical position. That person's voice is now important at the convention because it's probably similar to many voices at the convention. In the meantime, the candidates who realize they need the votes of glers and average Minnesota citizens who are employed and law abiding and pay their taxes and have a degree of common sense, they don't want to vote for that. And so now Kendall Qualls and Lisa Daymuth, they have to walk on eggshells trying to figure this out. How do I parse this so I don't lose G y e lers and I don't lose the extreme wings of the party. I need them all to win. How do I do this? You know what? I don't think they can. I don't think they can.

[Chris Reavers]

That's the million dollar course.

[Ellis]

I don't know how they do it.

[Chris Reavers]

You can't separate.

[Ellis]

And Klobuchar, who has been invited to this show and we still anticipate, still anticipate she'll be joining us. How is she gonna do it? She encountered whack jobs at the convention in Rochester she did. So how about this?

[Kenny Olson]

Start over.

[Ellis]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

How about this? How about this? Just the primary. No caucuses, no endorsing conventions, just primaries.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, how about we all get ice cream cones every day when we wake up, too? I mean, that's a fantastic idea, Joe, but it's the same as term limits. We all love term limits. Even the morons in office say they love term limits. It'll never happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who is deprived by us just having primaries for both parties? Who is deprived?

[Kenny Olson]

I think we are, aren't we?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think so. But none of us a slate of candid is presented to the public in a primary.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm sorry. I misread you.

[Joe Soucheray]

None of us are to become educated about who they're going to vote for.

[Kenny Olson]

Wait, you got to talk into the microphone.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, my thing came on.

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

Start over. I think I misread you.

[Chris Reavers]

None of us the importance or unimportance of a caucus.

[Ellis]

Who is deprived if all we have is primaries?

[Kenny Olson]

I don't think anybody.

[Ellis]

No one.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Ellis]

Do your homework. Go to the primary and vote.

[Chris Reavers]

So what was the reason for the caucus to begin with?

[Joe Soucheray]

For?

[Ellis]

I don't know the origins of the caucus, but it's. It's so.

[Kenny Olson]

This is fascinating, actually. So if that happens, Joe, who would? People. Because, you know, people are not going to do their research. They're going to vote for the person, the person with the most familiar name. The person who has the most ad money, the most campaign money. Correct. Isn't that how it's going to go? So it'd be Lisa and Kendall versus virtually everybody else who nobody's heard of anybody else. Right. Is that a theory?

[Ellis]

That's a theory.

[Joe Soucheray]

But everyone's heard of the pillow man, for example.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I'm sorry. I automatically discount him.

[Chris Reavers]

Does the caucus then run its course? We don't need it anymore.

[Ellis]

I don't know. My point is.

[Joe Soucheray]

My point is the parties have been taken over by the extremists in both parties. That's the point. And in the Duluth case, the extremists were successful in making a moment of silence for Chauvin a part of the convention. And if the politicians could ever be honest, like Qualls and Demuth, they would say, that's dreadful. We shouldn't have done it. It's a horrible optic. I want no part of it. But they're all gutless, all of them. Both parties. They're always afraid to be their true selves.

[Kenny Olson]

I guess I disagree with you in regards To Lisa on that statement, I thought she handled you pretty well when you asked about President Trump.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. You mean the same Lisa who said on this show that she'll abide by the endorsement?

[Kenny Olson]

Ah, but that got a little complicated.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it did, because, gee, suddenly we

[Ellis]

had an inconvenience with electronic dev.

[Joe Soucheray]

Call you when your table's ready.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I did want to bring up the fact that the far right of the party, they were, according to some reports, were upset with her because she came to a budget deal during the last session. Believe it or not, they're members of the party that were pissed off at her because she had the gall to negotiate with the Democrats.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. Which is exactly what she was supposed to have done.

[Kenny Olson]

Correct?

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

My point exactly.

[Chris Reavers]

Give and take.

[John Height]

Did you see, Joe, the fella who introduced the resolution is running.

[Joe Soucheray]

I did not.

[John Height]

He is named Christopher Rocco.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

And he's running in District 65, which includes parts of St. Paul. I don't know if that's you or not.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, Christopher, you're a whack job.

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[Joe Soucheray]

You do nothing for your.

[Chris Reavers]

Actually, he wasn't. For the first time, he wasn't talking to you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, well, I don't know who this guy is. What. Where's District 65?

[John Height]

It's St. Paul and West St. Paul, according to what I am reading here.

[Kenny Olson]

My only problem with all of that was that that was the wrong time in the wrong place, and you're only going to hurt your party by bringing that up. That's my whole issue with that. You know, the. Your thoughts on Chauvin aren't shared by everybody, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are or not?

[Kenny Olson]

Are not.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, of course not. Not my thoughts are my thoughts. I don't care who shares them. I have thoughts about Chauvin. I've just. I just know my politics in Minnesota and I would not have had a moment of silence for him at either convention.

[Kenny Olson]

You're absolutely right.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I don't think he was in any danger of getting a moment of silence at the DFL convention.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, to me, this is how. How I'm just. I carry around this conspiracy like a. My back all the time. When I heard that happened, I immediately assumed that's a Democratic operative in there doing this on purpose in order to screw the Republicans. But no, it was. It was a fellow Republican.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, can you find out more about that guy? I mean, does he have a job?

[Chris Reavers]

65 is.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want. No, let him find out about him.

[Ellis]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

What does he do? How old is he? What's his story?

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[Kenny Olson]

The most positive man I know, Mike Schoonover is joining us here on Garage Logic today. That's because it's Positive Tuesday. What day is it? It's Positive Thursday. We're gonna keep this one, Chris. Oh, man. And Schoon over Body Works and Auto Care located in Shoreview, 1060 County Roadie. Hi, Mike. Bail me out of this corner that I've talked myself into, man.

[M]

Well, Kenny, is always. You always make me smile, you make

[Kenny Olson]

me laugh and you make me smile accidentally.

[M]

That's another aspect of positive Thursday. So job well done.

[Kenny Olson]

Mr. Summer is here and the time is right for closing the streets. So much construction, how's that affect your business? I know they're working on Highway 51, just a half a mile from you guys. What's that mean for the customers of Schoonover Body Works and autocare? What does that mean for the crew at your shop?

[M]

So, gl ers, when you, when you drive over wet road paint, if you drive over wet car, if you have a cracked windshield because of all the debris that's been kicked up, and if your brakes wear out because you're in stop and go traffic, we can help with that. All that stuff is what happens during, during the construction season in the, in the, in the state of Minnesota. So we can do that.

[Kenny Olson]

Can I give your customers a tip? Here's a tip. Have Schoon over Body Works and Auto Care rotate your tires. And then here's my phrase. Take a little peek at my brakes, would you? And, and that's where you're going to find honesty playing out. They're either going to come back. Well, I know what they're going to say. The fronts are at 70, the rears are at 20. I would focus on getting those rears changed. And then I would come back and say, let's do all four.

[Ellis]

Right.

[Kenny Olson]

Isn't that how that conversation usually goes, Mike?

[M]

Well, it just all depends on what you're going to do because I know

[Josh Arnold]

a lot of folks are going to

[M]

be making road trips and that type of thing. So when you got your, you know, friends and family in the car, let's just make sure that the tires are good and the brakes are good and the air conditioning is good. So on top of that, you know, making sure that the oil is good. So yeah, let's make that thing, let's make that vehicle in tip top condition for the road. And then when those little rocks hit or you drive over the wet tar or the wet paint or whatever, we can help with that as well. But Kenny. Yeah, if you drive over the wet paint.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[M]

Let's not wait until next year to have it removed. Let's get it removed right away.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. The fresher, the sooner the better. Yeah, I've learned that lesson too. You're absolutely right, Mike.

[M]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

As for road trips, here's what I've learned. And Mike, you're absolutely right. If you're headed west, you're headed to the mountains. You're going to end up driving through the high desert. It's going to be really hot like Mike said. Get that AC fixed and then you're going to start going up and down mountain passes. There's no scarier feeling than your brakes getting spongy and soft when you're going down a steep grade on a mountain pass. Make sure those brakes are up to snuff.

[M]

Copy that. Can.

[Kenny Olson]

I think we covered it all, Mike. You guys have been around doing it up since 1938. The official shop of garage Logic. And gee, Ellis, y' all heard why right there. Always rated as one of the top shops in the metro. The most honest, positive crew you will ever meet. Schoonoverbodyworks.com the website. Thank you, Mike.

[M]

Thank you, Kenny. Appreciate you making me smile. And everybody have a great positive Thursday.

[John Height]

Jesus.

[Kenny Olson]

It's the end of the world as

[Ellis]

we know it and he feels fine.

[Joe Soucheray]

Anyway, let's not have caucuses.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's the end of that story.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Oh, here's John Height in the newsroom.

[John Height]

Hello.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, here he is.

[John Height]

John who's doing something. Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

John Height.

[John Height]

Yeah, I could not find. There's a lot of Christopher Rocco's around the both the Twin Cities and in the United States and I can find no specific information on this fellow.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's running for office.

[John Height]

Yeah, he just signed on, what, two days ago. So perhaps he'll have a website up.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right, quick and we can. Well, good luck.

[Kenny Olson]

So was this his way of announcing to the world that here I am?

[Joe Soucheray]

I guess so.

[John Height]

Or. Or do you think he did this and went, hey, this is getting a lot of pub. I'm running.

[Ellis]

It's one or the other.

[Kenny Olson]

Yep.

[John Height]

In news, Minnesota finished up its. Oh, you know what? This news I should mention is brought to us. You're welcome. By North American Banking company Minnesota. Minnesota has finished up its sweeping review of close to 5,600 providers across 13 Medicaid based services identified as vulnerable to fraud. And less than half were approved to keep operating as usual.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[John Height]

The Minnesota Department of Human Services said it met its May 31 deadline imposed by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to finish up the revalidation of those providers, a prerequisite to release the federal government's hold on $350 million in deferred Medicaid payments amid fraud concern. Of the 5583 high risk providers, 2061 were successfully revalidated while 3411 were disenrolled and will stop getting payments. Nearly three quarters of the providers that weren't revalidated were due to incomplete or unsubmitted documentation. Another 916 failed on site verification visits. Four failed background checks. The remaining 170 providers either stopped providing a high risk service or were referred to the DHS Office of Inspector General for further review.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Johnny, help me understand that. Are there several people from Minnesota that are being not investigated under testimony? Because there's a clip from Angie Craig that looks like it's recent, but I can't find anything verifying that. Was she summoned to testify?

[John Height]

I do not know. No, not for this. I don't think this, this was just an investigation they had to do to get that money back from the federal government.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Okay.

[John Height]

Yeah, so. And most of the. And really it shouldn't be this way, but it sounds like carelessness. Most of this is just carelessness on the part of providers which.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Well, let me play the clip as long as I brought it up. So Secretary, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins was talk. I was doing a little back and forth with Representative Angie Craig. Joe, she fights for us.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why was she talking to an agriculture guy?

[Fanfare Announcer]

Because they were talking about the SNAP program here in the state of Minnesota and This was the one minute exchange.

[Ricey]

According to USDA, your state is saying we only have 1.6% fraud rate, which we all know is an absolute joke.

[Ellis]

I'll say it again.

[Joe Soucheray]

The USDA's own data found 1.6%. I don't know. I don't want to hear this.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Okay. Basically Rollins's point was you can't prove that because you won't turn over the data on the SNAP program, which is in fact true.

[John Height]

Anyway, as you were just got a press release that Chris sent me. I'm just going to read the press release because I haven't had time to write a story around it, but it'll give you the basic information here. The St. Paul City Council has voted unanimously to adopt the city's updated Climate Action and resilience plan, or CARP, reaffirming St. Paul's commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions, preparing for climate impacts and advancing equitable climate solutions across the city.

[Joe Soucheray]

Utter BS.

[John Height]

Originally adopted in 2019, CARP established St. Paul's climate goals, including carbon neutrality by 2050. The newly adopted update refreshes the original framework and introduces a new five year Action plan to guide implementation. The update also acknowledges the significant investments made to achieve the city's climate goals by staff from across the entire enterprise

[Joe Soucheray]

because this addresses St. Paul's truest needs.

[Chris Reavers]

Absolutely.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Fanfare Announcer]

I love that the acronym is almost crap. C A R.

[John Height]

I had to look twice to make sure I didn't say that actually Boy and Really Disturbing story from Oakdale Oakdale couple facing charges for sexually abusing a 14 year old girl after she was found in their home. 46 year old Angeline Olson and 48 year old Andrew Olson both charged. Angeline charged with one count of first degree criminal sexual conduct, one count of soliciting a child to engage in sexual conduct. Andrew charged with three counts of possession of child sexual abuse material and one count of soliciting a child to engage in sexual conduct, the complaint says. An Investigation began on May 26 when an assistant principal at John Glenn Middle School contacted Maplewood police to report that a 14 year old student had left school without permission around 8:30 in the morning. After speaking with the student's parents, police listed her as missing or a runaway. The girl's father told police she may have gone to a friend's house. Police went to that home. Angeline told them she hadn't seen the girl since the day before. Then early the next morning, about 1:45 in the morning, Oakdale police were called to the home after a neighbor reported seeing a young girl outside in a bikini top who appeared to be cooking something with the couple. When law enforcement arrived and asked the couple to search the home, they became argumentative and told police the girl wasn't there. Andrew eventually allowed police to enter the residence, but the couple refused to leave the home, causing police to detain them. The girl was later found in a cardboard box under a pile of clothing in the couple's bedroom. Further search of the Olsen home unearthed child sexual abuse material, the complaint says. Several images of the victim being assaulted by Angeline were found in addition to images involving the couple and the victim. Metadata from the images show they were taken at the Olson home the afternoon the victim was reported missing. Angeline was in court on Wednesday, where a judge set her next court date for July 7th. Andrew is due in court on this afternoon.

[Joe Soucheray]

Sorry God yeah that's a Sorry God one yeah, yeah.

[John Height]

Minneapolis leaders are divided over whether to keep paying for ShotSpotter as the city weighs a new contract for the gunfire detection system. A public hearing at City hall focused on the technology as Minneapolis negotiates a new contract with sound thinking. The company that provides shotspotter Deputy Chief of Investigations Travis Riddle told the council the system supports gun violence strategy and can alert police no later than 60 seconds after shots are fired. Critics at the hearing said the technology is not proven enough and argued the money could be spent in other ways. The City Council is set to take up the issue again on June 17th. Minneapolis police are expected to return with a one year contract instead of the three year contract brought forward at this hearing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Boy, whoever came up with gun violence hit a home run. There is no such thing. There's violence committed by humans who sometimes commit violence with guns, but there's no such thing as gun violence. But the home run was planting the idea that it's the gun itself that's committing the violence.

[John Height]

Well said as the U. S. Iran conflict continues. Fertilizer Fertilizer prices have risen by nearly 40% for Minnesota farmers, and that's causing some problems. Nearly half of the world's urea, which is a main component of fertilizer, comes from the Middle east, and now farmers across Minnesota are having to adjust for higher costs. According to the American Farm Bureau Federation, fertilizer with nitrogen and urea averaged 400 to 800 bucks a ton in the spring of 2025. Now it's costing about $1,000 per ton. Minnesota Ag Commissioner Tom Peterson says farmers that had to maybe wait for a while to get their operating income for this year. They had to wait to make that purchase and they really got hit hard. We were really concerned. I would say it's the hardest thing is that those 30% of farmers had to purchase fertilizer or need to top off or need to do something a little different. Really almost doubled in price for them and that was already high. Peterson said most farmers bought fertilizer before the conflict began, but some were caught off guard. He said supply chain problems have affected producers before, but those disruptions usually are short term and as of now, nobody knows how long they this disruption will take.

[Kenny Olson]

A lot of guys settle on a price, a bulk price before the season even starts. They do that with seed and fuel and even when they're selling like say beans or corn, they settle on a price during the off season.

[John Height]

Yeah, manure. I just wanted to say manure just for just.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't know if there's a price on manure, but I know a local guy that buys turkey manure and he.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, the word is manure.

[Kenny Olson]

He says it's really good for his field. It smells like dead mice to me. It's Kind of gross. It's not like cow manure.

[John Height]

That's a bad smell.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I don't like the smell of dead mice.

[John Height]

Did you ever catch a mouse and not know it?

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what I mean? I can top you. I had a door sill. The. The door plate.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

It was emitting an odor, and I pried it up, and there was a family of dead mice in there.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, Okay. I didn't realize this was a competition, but I'm gonna blow all of you out.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don'.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Hold on. I got you. Kenny, just give me one quick second here. And cue the talent. Stand by.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hey, y'.

[M]

All.

[Joe Soucheray]

What do you got there? Kenny? With news from the crabby coffee shop, Krabby.

[Kenny Olson]

Kenny thought he was being rather clever when he planted decon all over in his detached garage. Imagine his dismay when those mice crawled into his pickup truck and died in. In his air vent system. So the entire.

[Josh Arnold]

You win.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a bad one.

[Ellis]

I brought it.

[Kenny Olson]

I had to drive that thing down to Schoonover so they could pull the dash apart and replace the in cab air filter.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, my God.

[Kenny Olson]

Not only were there a dead family, but they had been living there for quite some time.

[Fanfare Announcer]

They had the tv.

[Joe Soucheray]

They showed you, didn't they? Wants to spread this decon around. Let's live. In his truck, they had set their tv. I had.

[Kenny Olson]

I learned a valuable lesson.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Kenny, Isn't that the one where you brought it to schoons? You just went, I'm sorry.

[Kenny Olson]

Sorry. Well, actually, that's every time I begin.

[John Height]

Mine was because it was my own fault. It was. Sometimes my mind gets preoccupied with other things.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really?

[John Height]

Yeah, it does. I had put a trap between just a small space we had with the refrigerator and the oven. Sure caught a mouse. Didn't know it. Kept smelling all this stuff. We cleaned everything, you know, five times, and it was still there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

And then my wife said, did you ever take that trap out from behind the oven? And the mouse was, at that point, liquid.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

You guys need professionals is what you need.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, we do.

[John Height]

Why don't we.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's just.

[John Height]

Yeah, let's stop the mouse conversation and send it to Mr. Reavers.

[Fanfare Announcer]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Fanfare Announcer]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Fanfare Announcer]

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[Chris Reavers]

I love when he rubs that on the microphone.

[Fanfare Announcer]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Who's doing something, huh?

[Chris Reavers]

I don't know.

[Ellis]

Why am I not on the air? Turn the mic. Turn my mic.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, it came out. Jesus.

[Josh Arnold]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

Holy balls.

[Chris Reavers]

The seasoned radio veteran fumbles for his mouth.

[Kenny Olson]

Grab a shawl.

[Chris Reavers]

I will tell you right now.

[Joe Soucheray]

We got her.

[Chris Reavers]

Everything okay?

[M]

You know what?

[Chris Reavers]

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[John Height]

Thanks, Rook. In other news, the U.S. house passing a measure yesterday directing President Trump to end the war with Iran or get approval from Congress. The vote passed. 25th.

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[John Height]

215 to 208, with four Republicans joining Democrats in the rebuke. The resolution is symbolic, though a similar measure in the Senate would compel Trump to end the war if passed. The House vote came hours after Kuwaiti authorities blamed Iran for a deadly drone and missile attack on the international airport. Separately, Israel and Lebanon agreed to a ceasefire, conditional on Hezbollah halting its attacks on Israel and retreating above the Latani River. Meanwhile, as expected, President Trump lashing out at those four House Republicans who bucked the White House in that vote. In a Truth Social post this morning, the president called the four congressmen grandstanders in all caps, adding that they should all be ashamed of themselves. John Bolton, President Trump's former national security adviser turned adversary, expected to plead guilty over mishandling classified documents, according to sources familia with the matter. He intends to plead guilty to one felony count of illegal retention of sensitive national security documents. He has also agreed to pay more than $2 million in fines, according to one of the sources. The plea deal comes months after the top Trump foe was charged with prosecutors in Maryland for allegedly keeping diary entries from the first Trump White House in his home. Prosecutors accused Bolton of sharing more than 1,000 pages of info about his day to day activities through his personal email account with two unauthorized individual. Those individuals were his wife and his daughter. The alleged transmission of the classified info isn't part of the charges he pleads guilty to. Bolton, who served for one year in the first Trump administration, had originally been charged with eight counts of transmission of national defense information and 10 counts of retention of national defense information. Scientists studying Otzi the Iceman. You guys know Otzi?

[Joe Soucheray]

Was he the guy found in the Swiss Alps?

[John Height]

It's. He was, yes. He was found in the Swiss Alps in 1991 and died about 5,300 years ago. The scientists identified yeast living on and within his remains and even used it to bake a loaf of sourdough bread.

[Kenny Olson]

Come on, what's wrong with you? That's worse than eating earwax.

[Joe Soucheray]

Come on. I don't. Why.

[John Height]

I don't think they ate. Ate it.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's.

[John Height]

That's the impression I got from the story.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Well, then what was the point?

[John Height]

Done. The discovery sheds new light on the microbial or microbial, as I believe.

[Kenny Olson]

Is that Joe?

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, microbial.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think it was me. I think it was all right.

[John Height]

I tried. I tried to take the bullet for you, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know you did.

[John Height]

Microbial communities associated with ancient human remains and could reshape how scientists think about long term preservation. Otzi was Founded the Otzel Alps on the Austria, Italy border by two hikers in 1991. He's one of the archaeologists most studied individuals helping researchers reconstruct Copper Age diets, diseases and migration patterns. In the new study, scientists identified cold adapted yeasts in his stomach and on his skin that likely colonized his body shortly after death. One strain was successfully used to ferment and bake sourdough to test whether the ancient yeast was still active. Active researchers describe the result as very, very good. The finding highlights that ancient remains are not static artifacts, but complex biological environments. Adding another layer to Otzi's story. In Florida, angered that a fellow cop used the office's microwave to heat up fish, a detective drew his weapon.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't blame him.

[Ellis]

I don't blame the guy.

[Chris Reavers]

Lori and Julia, what are you making?

[Ellis]

I get a gun right now.

[Kenny Olson]

I used to fix popcorn on purpose. Throw it away.

[Chris Reavers]

I just poured it seven minutes so it would for sure burn instead of four.

[Kenny Olson]

My little cubicle, I'd put it in there and then I'd go. Just wait for three minutes. Watch what happens.

[John Height]

My little cubicle was right by the door of the studio.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Height]

And Joe, three times a week would run out of there.

[Ellis]

Well, it smells like vomit.

[Joe Soucheray]

Like what?

[Ellis]

Somebody cooking?

[Chris Reavers]

Heating some tuna casserole.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, my God.

[John Height]

You know, and I. I don't want to tell any secrets, but Donnie Love used to heat fish all the time in the microwave.

[Chris Reavers]

I do remember that.

[John Height]

Chatty. You must remember that.

[Kenny Olson]

So gross.

[Fanfare Announcer]

And you know why.

[Kenny Olson]

So bad.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Dr. Don Love would do that and wasn't offended by it. He did not have the ability to smell.

[Josh Arnold]

Really?

[Fanfare Announcer]

I'm not joking.

[M]

Seriously? Yeah.

[John Height]

I did not know that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Y. Yeah, well, I. I do have the ability.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Fanfare Announcer]

You got a good sniffer?

[Joe Soucheray]

I got a good.

[Kenny Olson]

I thought him constantly eating fish had something to do with his lovemaking skills. Somehow was involved.

[John Height]

We're gonna move right along here and tell you about this cop. That's a lot like.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, let's get back to the cop who's a man after my own heart.

[Kenny Olson]

That took a turn, didn't it?

[John Height]

It really did. Investigators say that 46 year old Michael DiBiase was at police headquarters in Myrtle beach on Saturday when he got into a little dispute with the patrolman whose name is redacted from the war warrant. DiBiase confronted the patrolman about warming up fish in the microwave, causing an odor in the office. During the confrontation, Detective DiBiase drew and pointed his department issued handgun at the other officer.

[Joe Soucheray]

Don't blame him.

[John Height]

Dibiase was arrested for allegedly pointing and presenting the firearm at a person. That is a felony.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he didn't shoot the guy.

[John Height]

That's not good for a cop, though. He was booked into the Horry County Jail, from which he was later released without Bailey bail. DiBiase was placed on administrative leave following the incident and then a subsequent internal investigation identified several other policy violations that resulted in his termination, according to the Myrtle Beach Police Department.

[Kenny Olson]

That sounds like something in have you ever seen the Other Guys with Will Ferrell?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I haven't.

[Kenny Olson]

That sounds like something that would be

[John Height]

in that movie Archdiocese of Washington, Washington cut ties with a priest and a prominent exorcist over comments he made about demons and UFOs. Monsignor Stephen Rossetti said in a video posted on YouTube that there's no question that probably many if not most of the UFO sightings are in fact demons. They can do things we can't, rossetti added. He showed an image of a UFO to someone with a particular gift. That's his work wording who confirmed it was actually a demon. He also warned people against interacting with so called aliens and even supposedly friendly ghosts as they were likely demons. And he said demons like to hide themselves. Rossetti made it clear that this was his personal belief, not an official church teaching, but the church said he had crossed a line and ended its nearly two decade association with him. The Archdiocese of Washington said in a news release that statements made by monsignor Rossetti linking UFOs to demonic presence and the center's recent use of social media gravely undermined the Church's very precise teaching on the devil, demons and exorcism. The archdiocese also cut ties with Rosetti's St. Michael center for Spiritual Renewal. Rosetti is the author of Diary of an American Exorcist and My Confrontation with Hell, is a priest in the diocese of Syracuse, N.Y. and has served as Catholic chaplain to the Washington Nationals. He said he was saddened by the Dec to let him go.

[Kenny Olson]

You guys are funny. Where do you stand on Sam Squatch? You Catholics, are you good with the

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm cool with that. They're out there, yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

All right.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reavers]

Down the way that I did. We had it all.

[Ellis]

You cannot stop him. He'll just make a move. Joe Su, I've got some bad news about illnesses.

[Chris Reavers]

Come on.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I feel it's my obligation.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, I already have read about them.

[Kenny Olson]

I know I haven't already.

[Ellis]

There's a new flesh eating problem.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't like that one.

[Joe Soucheray]

You don't want to get the flesh eating screw worm.

[Ellis]

Oh, you don't want.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a. It's bad.

[Chris Reavers]

You don't want that enough that it's flesh eating. But they call it a screw worm.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, it's got into a cow in Texas. Double one.

[Kenny Olson]

A cork screw.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, it's a fly, actually. It's a. It's a fly. It's called the new world screw worm fly. But then it eats the flesh. It's a bit. You don't want that. It's in the cows.

[Kenny Olson]

How do you get it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, the, the. The cattle get it. I don't know. It's. It's confirmed. A three week old calf in La Priore, Texas, near the U.S. mexico. Mexico border. And you just. It's not good. It's the flies. Larva, is it? Larva or larvae feed exclusively on the living tissue of warm blooded animals. It is capable of infecting humans and pets. But those, those cases are rare. Which offers me no consolation at all because I don't want it at all. Fly worm, Flesh eating screws worm. It doesn't even pose a food safety threat.

[Chris Reavers]

And you can't do anything, can you?

[Joe Soucheray]

Not really, Matt.

[Ellis]

Not really.

[Joe Soucheray]

Apparently this flesh eating screw worm has advanced rapidly through Mexico and she's headed our way.

[John Height]

You know what one of the main symptoms is which doesn't sound good? Foul smelling or discharging wounds.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that's a bad name. Foul smelling discharging wound.

[Chris Reavers]

When I would. When I would go down to Naples to see my in laws, it was A kind of a retirement community. And there was one guy that did have the facial flesh eating disease.

[Fanfare Announcer]

He really did.

[Chris Reavers]

I remember his name. Sweet guy.

[Kenny Olson]

But was he able to cover it up, Matt, or did you have to look at it?

[Chris Reavers]

He tried.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, that'd be tough, you know, with your uncle.

[Chris Reavers]

No, he was no relation at all.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I mean, your uncle dies and somebody says, what, what, what happened to him? Well, you got that flesh eating.

[Kenny Olson]

Did he just sit like in a dark room? And when you visited him, it was like visiting Brando and Apocalypse now just in a dark cave.

[Chris Reavers]

On the, on the contrary, he would go out and, you know, he'd be in the pool for a swim and you.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, gross.

[Chris Reavers]

You'd open the gate and he'd be toweling off. Hey, you hopping in? I'm like, no, I'm just gonna take the sunburn today.

[Ellis]

You get rid of the screw worm.

[Joe Soucheray]

Please tell me this is a bad job. Well, it's a bad.

[Chris Reavers]

Not like the monkey said, little be.

[Ellis]

I need to get to it here.

[Kenny Olson]

Is it something you squeeze and it bursts?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, you got to release sterilized flies

[Ellis]

into the affected area.

[Joe Soucheray]

Cuz female flies generally made only once. And so these poor flies are, you know, they're sacrificing their lives for us.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh yeah, the sterile flies are going, why did I, I did not get recruited.

[Joe Soucheray]

Because the sterile males, you know, they can't produce offspring. They could if Michelle Wu was mayor, but they, they don't. They can't right now.

[Kenny Olson]

How far north do I have to go to stay away from this?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think we're okay for the time

[Ellis]

being, but the other day I told you guys that some ticks. There was a conspiracy that ticks were being bred to create an allergic reaction to beef in humans. Yeah, and I believe I was poo poo, but this is from the Daily Mail. So that means it's real.

[Josh Arnold]

Yes.

[Ellis]

And we learned that an Unearthed study

[Joe Soucheray]

that means one that was just found.

[Ellis]

An unearthed study has set off a tidal wave of outrage after scientists claimed it was morally justifiable to infect people with a virus making them allergic to meat. Researchers Parker Crutchfield and Blake Harrith from Western Michigan University published a paper in 2025 making the argument that society had a moral duty to spread ticks that were infected with or engineered to carry Alpha GAL syndrome ags. Now here's my question. What gave them the moral authority to establish this?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, they already exist, the ticks with Alpha galaxies. Right?

[Ellis]

But these idiots, they think it's from Fine. What right do they have to establish these moral perimeters for us? I just as soon have a stake, pal. That's none of your business.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, who released Covid? I mean, it's the enemy, I think. The enemy of humanity.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Ellis]

And then so you get bit by one of these ticks and you get stomach pain and the whole deal. And the next thing you know, if you recover, you can't eat meat. They argued that the only reason society should not be spreading ticks to infect people with ags is that scientists do not have an early and easy way

[Joe Soucheray]

to do it on a large scale.

[Ellis]

These are sick people.

[Kenny Olson]

That's dark.

[Ellis]

These are sick people. They don't want you to eat meat, so they determine it themselves. Go bleep yourself. Western Mission, Michigan, you fruitcakes during Flint on Fridays. That's right.

[John Height]

This will help you. University of Georgia. They are trying to fight this disease, to treat it. So we'll have dueling.

[Ellis]

Remember these names. Parker Crutchfield and Blake Harrith. Western Michigan University.

[Fanfare Announcer]

I'll remember those.

[Ellis]

That's the ultimate failed academy right there. These two crackpots, they don't want you to eat meat. So they think it's perfectly fine that we got ticks out there that can make you allergic to meat.

[Kenny Olson]

I think they should come on up to the farm, spend a few days out in the woods.

[Chris Reavers]

I hope Crutchfield is not related to the late great Charles Crutchfield.

[Joe Soucheray]

Don't tell me that that's your relative?

[Chris Reavers]

No, but Dr. Crutchfield was a really good skin doctor that went to Highland Park Senior High with my cousin Chris.

[Joe Soucheray]

Chris the Crutch did.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I didn't know that. And what, you've brought up Crutchfield before and you've always claimed he was a relative of yours?

[Chris Reavers]

No, he went to school with my cousin Chris and they. They still. He did pass away. He had cancer. But his kids drive some nice vehicles.

[Kenny Olson]

Have you ever stayed at his place in Miami for free?

[Chris Reavers]

I have not, no.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got a nice note from our demo derby guy, Matt.

[Chris Reavers]

Matt the demo derby guy.

[Joe Soucheray]

And he says Matt the GL derby driver here figured I would send you a Picture of the 2026 GL Anoka County Fair demo derby car. It looks like about a 1012 year old Chevy Impala.

[Kenny Olson]

He's going to turn one.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, it'll have GL on it by the time he's done. It looks terrible, but he'll fix it.

[Progressive Small Business Announcer]

Sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

And he says it has a full wasp beehive in the frame somewhere. That I can't seem to get access to.

[Kenny Olson]

Perfect.

[Joe Soucheray]

So this year I will have a few bees with me on the Track. It's my 37th birthday today, June 4th, and I have a few gray hair strands now, so it's basically over for me. Better get this car built before I can't even walk anymore. See you guys at the state fair. You are there every day this year, right? Yeah. Matt GRE machine number nine. He is a hell of a demo derby car guy. And he found himself an old Impala. Looks like an Impala to me. And it's up on blocks. There's no rear wheels. But he'll get her going.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, I trust fully trust.

[Joe Soucheray]

And then he'll have to, you know, he'll. What he'll be dressed in during the Anoka county fair. The beekeeper suit. He'll have a beekeeper suit on so he doesn't get attacked by the be

[Chris Reavers]

stung while he's driving. Well, he's got to avoid the Malachi crunch.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a secret. Is that from Happy Days?

[Chris Reavers]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

The bees are a secret weapon that could play into his advantage

[Joe Soucheray]

only because they come to us all the way from the traveling linemans. And yesterday I wondered. I regretted that I had failed to ask the Lymans about their travels in the Middle East. So, Tom writes, on yesterday's podcast you mentioned you wanted to ask us about the Middle East. Back in 2013, we were in Egypt, Jordan and the United Arab emirates. Also in 2013, we took a cruise from Barcelona to Dubai by way of the Mediterranean Sea, the Suez Canal, Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Omar and Strait of Hormuz. When our crews approached the Gulf of Aden, a British Navy ship came alongside our ship. Three Royal Marines boarded our ship with safety packages. I suspect these were weapons, night vision goggles, etc. The cruise ship had a pirate drill for all passengers which required anyone, which included us, with a stateroom with a balcony, to exit their room and go to the interior of the ship. From dawn till dusk, all windows draped had to be closed. No one was allowed outside on any deck. These three Royal Marines were patrolling the outside decks from dusk to dawn. This happened for three or four nights. Then, while still in international waters, the British Navy ship came alongside our ship again. The three Royal Marines disembarked and embarked. Their British Navy ship, I suspect this was due to these safety packages, could not enter UAE territorial waters. These guys have experienced more stuff, man. It makes it. This day in history is coming from them, the traveling linemen.

[Kenny Olson]

This would be a Perfect cover for spies.

[Joe Soucheray]

Man alive. It was on this day, Joe, today is June 4th. In 1869, John S. And Charles A. Pillsbury, who get their names in this thing more often than Alexander Ramsey, more than Faribault, bought a third interest in the Frazee and Murphy Flour mill. The Pillsbury Company marks this day as its birthday. On this day, June 4th in 1993, Jim Ed Poole, whose name was Tom Keith and Dale Conley celebrated their 10th year as hosts of the morning show hey. On Minnesota Public Radio from the. With a broadcast from the world Theater in St. Paul. How come a GL birthday never makes this day in history?

[Chris Reavers]

I couldn't tell you who those guys guys are really.

[Kenny Olson]

How many years, Joe, you must have listened to.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've heard of a few times, yeah.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Were they as good as Bob and Ray?

[Kenny Olson]

No, no, they were a wonderful music store show. If you were interested in music, that was a good show to listen to.

[John Height]

That's. That's why Chris didn't like them.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day, on this day, June 4, in the year 2000, a statue was unveiled in Perrier, Normandy, France, of four American soldiers who died trying to free the town from the German during World War II. Citizens of the town and veterans of the 90th Division raised funds for the monument. Two Minnesotans are commemorated in this Virgil Tangborn of Virginia and Richard Rickman of Minneapolis. It is unusual for statues dedicated to the memory of common soldiers to be of specific individuals.

[John Height]

Virgil is from Bemidji. Joe, I just wanted to say that in case somebody writes you.

[Joe Soucheray]

I did say that. Virgil Tangborn of Bemidji.

[John Height]

You said Virgil of Virginia.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I'm sorry. Virgil Tangborn of Bemidji and Richard Rickman of Minneapolis. It was on this day in sports disappointment history.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Who'd we lose to on June 4th, Joe?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, in 1982, the Twins beat the Orioles on this day, ending a long losing streak.

[Fanfare Announcer]

It was after an off day, I believe.

[Joe Soucheray]

I. I think so.

[Fanfare Announcer]

You said that yesterday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. On this day, June 4th of 2021. Shoemaker. One third inning in the first nine runs.

[Fanfare Announcer]

God, remember that?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I don't.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Yeah, well, I forget what his first name was.

[Joe Soucheray]

Willie.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, Willie. That's what I was gonna say.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Yeah, he. He had a little trouble.

[Joe Soucheray]

He pitched.

[John Height]

Matt.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Matt Shoemaker. Thank you, John.

[Ellis]

In one out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Getting one out. Out.

[Fanfare Announcer]

He gave up nine runs.

[Joe Soucheray]

Nine runs.

[John Height]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

Chris Reavers for a million dollars. Who is Willie Shoemaker?

[Fanfare Announcer]

Well, he was clearly the guy in the Disney story where he opened up the. He opened up the shoe store and he.

[Joe Soucheray]

You don't know who Willie Scher is?

[Fanfare Announcer]

I've heard the name. I guess I can't place it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Famous jockey.

[John Height]

Yeah, probably the only famous jockey now.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's a few I can't think of. I have one more item. I have one more item, please. This is from that daily calendar that Christa sent as a birthday present. Not a birthday present, Christmas. But I took special notice of this because it's mind boggling on this day, June 4th in 1956, declaring rock and roll detrimental to the health and morals of our youth, Santa Cruz, California authorities banned it from public gatherings, hearings after police broke up a party where teenagers danced to a black band. Yeah. Such racially charged bands fueled rock's rebellious appeal. Yeah. And it soon became a youth culture force.

[Kenny Olson]

The best thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sorry, that was yesterday, June 3rd, on this day.

[Kenny Olson]

Wonderful. Best thing that could happen to rock and roll.

[Joe Soucheray]

It made it, didn't it? It made rock and roll.

[Kenny Olson]

Tipper Gore did it years and years later. And that was another resurgence.

[Joe Soucheray]

Today is the fourth, right? Yes, yeah, it was. Yeah, it was June 3rd, 1956, Santa Cruz, California.

[John Height]

That was from the calendar that she sent us, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, yeah.

[John Height]

Do you see over my shoulder here? Right there where the guitars are? Yeah, that's the calendar she sent me hanging on my wall.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I see.

[John Height]

It's right over there.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can't really see it. Well, I got one of those little ones that tear off deals. Oh, you know, cool tariffs calendar. No, no, I have some confusion here.

[Ellis]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

Were the California authorities worried about the music or the fact that it was a black band?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, both. All of the above.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

That was very common in the 50s for dances where they would not let the black and white kids together.

[Kenny Olson]

Even jazz bands.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hi to James Brown. Hand handle that.

[John Height]

I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

I believe he put his foot down a number of times.

[John Height]

The most famous one is the Beatles when they played in the South.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Height]

They said we're not playing if. Because they said, well, remember, you can't have the black kids.

[Joe Soucheray]

Good for the Beatles.

[John Height]

White kids and Beatles. Well, then we're not going to play.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, what about the. I think it was Ella Fitzgerald, the Marilyn Monroe story at the. The. What's the band shell in la?

[Joe Soucheray]

The Hollywood Bowl.

[Kenny Olson]

Wasn't she playing there? What was the story there?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[John Height]

I think she was going to come sit. Wasn't she with Marilyn Monroe?

[Joe Soucheray]

And

[Chris Reavers]

that was Frank Sinatra with Sammy D. He said, okay, same thing. Yep.

[John Height]

And when he played with Jimmy Dorsey, same thing. The hotels didn't want the black band members and Sinatra said, well, then we're not staying here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Good. For sure. Well, thank you very much. G. Ellers, do us a favor.

[Chris Reavers]

I don't think my grandpa cared who he smoked dope with back then.

[Kenny Olson]

I was thinking of a nightclub in West Hollywood.

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[Josh Arnold]

Yes, we are. You know, almost a new news flash when it comes to Amazon and Amazon Web Services. Amazon Web Services has been numerous deals recently both around its use of artificial intelligence and its cloud service. A big, big deal. Probably the biggest deal that Amazon Web Services has inked was with interest, the service that aligns users and we'll say to share specific interest about a specific topic. And that can range from we'll say plumbing and plumbing and heating to playing a French horn and how to how to do that a lot better. Pinterest will be paying $4 billion for services from Amazon Web Services. Particularly around artificial intelligence. Over the next five years, this is the biggest deal that Amazon Web Services has ever secured. Just shows the power Amazon cloud side business back in 2006 to now a very major, major contributor to Amazon, Amazon's bottom line and Amazon's margins. Amazon Web Services is exceedingly strong and is dominant, we'll say the dominant cloud almost on a worldwide basis. This is one of several reasons that very decades ago I made Amazon a significant part of my and my clients portfolio. IBM also signed a deal but with Google, but it was not as big, I'll say it was not as big as the deal that Pinterest served with or signed with Amazon Web Services. But it still lines up two significant technology players in the artificial intelligence space. Google has been losing a market value. Matter of fact, Google is down a little less than 10% in we'll call it correction territory. Google has lost that, we'll say that momentum after Google announced their $80 billion equity raise to help fund their artificial intelligence expansion. Google has been spending a significant amount of money and I will say with Google's announcement, plus the announcement announcements, SpaceX IPO and anthropic filing to do an IPO later this year and several other new issues coming out. It has been estimated that there are up to $600 billion in new issues that are going to be coming in several months. And the question becomes where is this money going to to fund the deal? Particularly some of the larger deals like we'll say Google SpaceX which looks to raise $75 billion and that could give Google a 1.7. Excuse me, not Google that should get, could give Star SpaceX which owns Starlink X and XAI plus the, the rocket company SpaceX. That could give SpaceX a market capitalization of $1.7 trillion. Should anthropic IPO go through that also could approach a trillion dollars. And those size, we'll say that size deals or those that kind of market capitalization would put basic and anthropic, you know, into some of the top names. And if we add OpenAI if and when that comes public now you've got got three more names that would be added to the magnificent seven and money would almost be forced to come out of other stock to go into those. Those names just do be prepared when you see, you know, stocks sell off, particularly around hot IPO. I did raise some caution, you know, over the SpaceX IPO. Unless you can get the IPO share shares, you want to invest in several funds that already own shares or IPO or pre IPO shares in SpaceX. I would not be chasing SpaceX on the, on the offer, you know, particularly given the fact that it'll be trading at 70, you know, times times sale. So I would look, I would wait for it to come, come down a little bit or other places that you can go that already own shares of SpaceX which I've covered before, including the Barron's Partners fund, the Ark Innovation Fund, the Ark Venture funds. Could take a look at companies such as EchoStar which owns 3,3% share in SpaceX after as part of a deal where SpaceX bought spectrum from EchoStar. But again be careful on, on that, on that news next week we'll see Google again in the news at Apple's worldwide Developers conference which is Monday and tends to it's going to be featuring the integration we'll say of Siri or I'll say Gemini, Google's artificial intelligence project into Siri and we'll see how that is accepted by app developer. Now just a little sidelight. Apple did commission a little study on the impact of their, of their app business which you know has grown in terms of revenues to Apple to about $110 billion of revenue a year. And that's, that comes from we'll say commissions that Apple takes off of app sale on a worldwide basis. Based on this study that Apple commissioned. The App App store generated about $1 trillion last year in economic impact and Apple collected about 10% of that, you know, to their, to their revenue new line. That is very, very significant. Now I would, I would venture as much as government around the world and others are going after Apple for the money they make off the App Store. I would throw this out. That app, those applications that show up on or are available through Apple or Google for their Android, that business would not exist save for Apple and that is a huge, huge benefit to the overall economy that you know, new businesses have come out of the development of a device like the iPhone. Very interesting indeed.

[Fanfare Announcer]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G others, now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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