7/13 Much opposition against the Mpls Police Dept using drones

Summary

Garage Logic, Episode 1808 (July 13, 2026)
Main Theme: Debating Minneapolis' Police Drone Pilot Amid Summer Lake Logic

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Episode Overview

This episode of Garage Logic finds Joe Soucheray and the crew tackling a major controversy in Minneapolis: the city’s proposed 75-day, no-cost police drone pilot program. The program, meant to help an understaffed police department, is facing considerable opposition from residents and some city council members who fear infringements on privacy. While this heated topic occupies the show’s second half, the first half delivers the quintessential Garage Logic summer vibe, led by lake detective Steve McComas fielding calls about lake health, invasive species, E. Coli, and goose (and human) involvement in water quality. The team peppers the episode with their classic mix of irreverence and grounded “Garage Logic” common sense, punctuating serious topics with offbeat humor.

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Lake Talk & Summer Logic (00:58–15:33)

Lake Detective Steve McComas Checks In

• Steve McComas, the show’s “Lake Detective,” calls in from Buffalo Lake, searching for invasive Starry Stonewort.
  • “We hear that Starry Stonewort is present in Buffalo Lake. We're gonna look for it.” (02:38, Steve McComas)
• Discussion on “urban lakes” closed due to high E. Coli:
  • Most E. Coli comes from wildlife and runoff, not just human activity.
  • "About 90% is from wildlife, dogs, ducks... but humans can certainly contribute to E. Coli as well." (05:26, Steve McComas)
  • Most E. Coli is harmless, serving as a “marker” for waste in the water, but high counts are cause for beach closures.
  • “If it says beach is closed, honor the sign and move on.” (08:26, Joe Soucheray)
• Question about strange white clumps on lake bottoms:
  • Usually dead filamentous algae or natural fungus—more of an eyesore than a threat. (06:57, McComas)
• The impact of heat waves:
  • Great swimming, but variable impacts on fish (walleyes slow down, bluegill love it) and plants (thriving in heat and sun).
  • “If we're not getting a lot of nutrient input...that heat will help the native plants grow...help keep the water clear.” (13:16, McComas)
• Geese and water quality:
  • One study found “hundreds of geese” required for significant nutrient impact, but E. Coli presence can spike quickly. (14:54–15:16, McComas)
  • “If we got rid of the geese... would that help?” (14:38, Kenny Olson)
• Humorous moments on salad paranoia due to “explosive diarrhea thing” and household debates over vegetable washing techniques. (17:34–18:30, Soucheray & cast)

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POLICE DRONE DEBATE: MINNEAPOLIS IN THE SPOTLIGHT (23:32–40:02)

Setting the Context & Concerns

• With a shortage of officers, Minneapolis proposes a 75-day, no-cost pilot: drones as first responders, managed by Skydio Inc.
• Strong opposition at city council—privacy concerns dominate public testimony.
  • Soucheray: “I would always err on the side of believing privacy is vital and must be sacrosanct. But... you don't have enough coppers.” (23:32)
  • Court precedent is scant; police currently need no warrant for observing public spaces from the air.
• How it would work: Drones controlled by FAA-certified operators, dispatched alongside patrol cars, intended to supplement, not replace officers.
  • "Aircraft are not automated or randomly roaming. They are controlled entirely by FAA certified police pilots…" (26:19, Soucheray)
  • Data from the 4th Precinct suggests large volume of “low priority” calls could be screened by drone.

Cast Debates Potential Uses & Concerns

• Drones could arrive faster, clear minor calls, and let officers focus on life-threatening ones.
  • “A drone can't do anything. It could just tell the cops where they are, right?” (27:55, Soucheray)
  • “If this ultimately results in the community being safer, why would anyone in their right mind oppose this?” (33:05, Chris Reavers)
• Real-world examples:
  • St. Paul and Minnetonka have used drones for years—hundreds of missions, some calls resolved without officers ever being dispatched.
  • “Minnetonka...They flew 400 missions in the first six months... 20% of those calls cleared without needing patrol car dispatch.” (33:33, John Gormley)
• Privacy concerns:
  • Opposition rooted in distrust of police, stoked by city council’s “democratic socialist” wing, per Soucheray.
  • “Much of the testimony...has resulted in civilians showing up saying, we don't trust anything the police department does...therefore...we fear this will be a loss of privacy.” (31:25, Soucheray)
  • John Height’s nuanced sci-fi take: “You see these things following the citizenry around in places they shouldn't be... the opportunity is there for it to get out of hand, isn't it?” (35:11, 35:35, Height)
  • Soucheray wonders if drone policing is “inevitable” as technology winds advance.

Notable Quotes

• “I wish I had the wisdom of Solomon on this. I would think the coppers deserve their 75-day tryout so they have some evidence.” (36:28, Soucheray)
• “If during the 75 days you have 42 people who show up and say that drone hovered at my bedroom window for 15 minutes, then you got a different problem. But if that doesn't happen and they can only show benefits, wasn't it worth the try?” (36:40, Soucheray)
• “We've got cameras at every single intersection... You're being watched.” (32:21, Gormley)
• “I have never seen a drone in St. Paul.” (33:28, Soucheray)

Outcome

• The crew generally supports the pilot (“give them the 75-day trial”), while acknowledging both genuine privacy risks and the complicated, politicized public trust problem in Minneapolis.
• “Anything the police come up with, there’s a built-in audience to reject it 100%. So I don't know what would be after drones.” (38:59, Soucheray)
• The topic is set to become “a big, big deal in Minneapolis.”

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Classic Garage Logic: Sheds, Salads & Summer Silliness (40:00–end)

Garage Talk

• British and Australian sheds: The crew marvel at Brits’ tradition of turning backyard sheds into “pubs,” contrasting it to the more functional American garage.
• Geese as drone replacements:
  • “What if we just replaced all the drones with geese? Take all the geese from the lakes, put a camera [on them]...” (38:33, Chris Reavers)
• Kristi Noem’s pending divorce: Soucheray suggests Reavers take his “shot.”
• Recurring jokes about salad spinners, brushes, and their significant others’ produce-washing rituals.

Historic Minnesota Trivia

• Noted anniversaries: Northwest Ordinance of 1787, Lake Itasca named in 1832, and the city of Kinney’s 1977 “secession” in protest over grant paperwork.
  • “The city council...decided to secede and apply for foreign aid because there is less paperwork.” (81:26, Soucheray)
• Bar-related historical disasters and Civil War embarrassments are also discussed with characteristic gallows humor.

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Other Noteworthy Segments

• Lake News: Lake Pepin boat accident and wildfires closing the Boundary Waters (47:00–48:45).
• Cheeky National Headlines: Brief riffing on headline news, including oil prices, the U.S.-Iran conflict, and untimely deaths of politicians (esp. Sen. Lindsey Graham at 61:44).
• Show-Closing Gags: Imagining hotels air-conditioning “stories you can’t un-hear.”

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Memorable Quotes

• “I think basically they're a show business family. I think Greta, I think her parents are in the theater… and so is this very corpulent young sister here.” (71:32, Soucheray, referring to Greta Thunberg’s family)
• “Hang on to schedule your new free... No, to schedule your free. You want a new door? Get a hold of Precision door.” (41:24, Soucheray, tongue-tied during a sponsor read)
• “I'm not taking Ashby off the list... Just because it angers that school.” (75:44, Soucheray, on Minnesota’s state flag sightings)
• “I was in the hotel naked in front of the air conditioner, legs spread.” (76:46, John Gormley—immediately regretted for the image it conjures)

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Key Timestamps

• Lake Detective segment: 02:07–15:33
• Goose/E. Coli Q&A: 14:38–15:16
• Minneapolis police drone pilot program debate: 23:32–40:02
• Historical Minnesota trivia: 76:11–81:58

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Summary

For those who missed it, this episode masterfully blends timely Twin Cities controversy with vintage Garage Logic summer banter. The Minneapolis drone pilot discussion is presented from all angles: privacy, policing, city politics, and pragmatic Midwestern “logic.” As always, discussions on lakes, geese, and backyard-projects anchor the show in its classic territory. The tone—irreverent, skeptical, honest, and frequently hilarious—remains as distinct as ever.

Transcript

[Joe Soucheray]

As technology becomes more complex, cyber reality dominates the culture and AI becomes an endless anxious discussion. Simple, old human storytelling becomes all the more precious. And that's what you'll find on the Mishky podcast. In the end, we're all just people. Folks with our brilliance and our absurdities and stories about people. Well, they never get old. The Mishke Podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Chris Reavers]

We're rolling.

[Joe Soucheray]

Good. Josh Arnold, investment consultant, brings you Garage lodging podcast number 1808, July 13, 2026. My old man would be 108 today if he was alive. Your father would be 105 degrees, the record high on this day in 1936. 50 degrees on two occasions, 1926 and 1990. Call Josh Arnold at 952-925-5608 for a free 48 minute consultation.

[Chris Reavers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your flashlight King, fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susher.

[Chris Reavers]

What's up, Joe?

[Kenny Olson]

Lake Detective.

[Joe Soucheray]

The only podcast in America that has its own Lake detective or you want a case?

[Steve McComas]

Ld As a matter of fact, Joe, I am on a case. We are just cut off one lake. We're heading to Buffalo Lake and in the city of Buffalo to look for Starry Stonewort.

[Joe Soucheray]

I see.

[Steve McComas]

We hear that story. Stonewort is present in Buffalo Lake. We're gonna look for it.

[Joe Soucheray]

And we don't. That's something we don't want.

[Steve McComas]

Yes, that is a non native invasive species. It came over from as we, as they often do, from Europe and Euras and it's only in 40 lakes right now in Minnesota. But if it's not managed and we don't get it, nip it in the bud. It can be can grow to be nuisance proportions.

[Joe Soucheray]

Ladies and gentlemen of the Garage Logic universe, this is the LAKE Detective, Steve McComa's Blue Water Science. We have about 15,000 lakes in Minnesota. The lake detective is familiar with all of them. He's never been stumped on any question whatsoever. When he's on a case, he has to check his weapon, his service pistol with the local sheriff. You've done that, I trust?

[Josh Arnold]

Yes.

[Steve McComas]

And guess what? The other day, I'm on Forest Lake, a couple officers on the dock, they're looking out there at some nefarious boating activity. Hey, you want a binocular? They go, yeah. You got one of those? Yeah, right here. So they scoped it out, found the red boat and they took it from there.

[Joe Soucheray]

I see LD we're in a midst of a 1936 almost like heat wave. I personally enjoy it. These are beautiful summer days. How are they affecting the lakes? How is it affecting the lakes?

[Steve McComas]

As you might expect, it's great for swimming. We're just off. We just got it off Pulaski. The Water temp was 88 degrees.

[Joe Soucheray]

Holy mackerel.

[Steve McComas]

That is from. That's at the transducer depth, which is only a couple inches, but it's warmish and so certainly great for swimming and the fish. You know, if you're a bluegill, this is, this is great. If you're a bass, it's not bad. Walleyes, they get a little bit lazy and lethargic in this with these warm temperatures, but they're out there. But the aquatic plants, then you give them, you give them some sun and some heat and they're growing like crazy.

[Joe Soucheray]

And these, these aquatic plants. Every lake seems to have an association that attempts to take care of them, keeps you in business. You show up with your skiff called good luck, and you get out there and you do your testing. Is this why? Well, I have an. I have a very indelicate question. The news is full of reports of all the urban lakes that seem to be closed so often because of E. Coli bacteria. Is that, is the E. Coli bacteria, can that be caused by nature or is that always human origin?

[Josh Arnold]

You know what?

[Steve McComas]

I would estimate about 90% is from wildlife, dogs, ducks, things like that. A lot of these urban lakes get all this stormwater runoff. Well, it's running off from the, the streets and the roads and shoulders and it's bringing in a lot of E. Coli, not only from pets, but from wildlife as well. I mean, you're, you got your raccoons and everything else that most of E. Coli is, you know, a warm blood comes from warm blooded animals, including ducks, which are warm blooded. And humans can certainly contribute to E Coli as well. We use E. Coli as a marker. It is not generally a problem or dangerous. There are some strains of E. Coli that are very almost toxic. But most of your E. Coli is your gut E. Coli and not a problem, but it's a marker for, you know, for waste matter. And so that's why we're careful with high E. Coli counts indicating there is things that have been are in the water.

[John Gormley]

Lake Detective, I've got about 20 questions for you. Starting at the top, floating around on my mom's lake. Over the fourth, a very clear, pristine, beautiful lake. You can see to the bottom at 10ft. It's a sand bottom. We noticed clumps of something that are white and chunky.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's never been stumped.

[John Gormley]

What, what are we, what are we looking at there, Lake Detective?

[Steve McComas]

Well, based on your description and those clues, it could be a couple of things. One, it could be benthic filamentous algae that has died back and is no longer green and it's lost its chlorophyll and that'd give you a whitish color. Also, sometimes off the bottom you can have a fungus growing, a native natural occurring fungus. And those are always white as well. So probably a common. It's either one of those two, but for the most part, not. Not toxic or anything else just doesn't look very good.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't care what Kenny thinks. I want to get back to E. Coli because a lot of kids want to go swimming. So can you get E. Coli through your eyes and ears, in other words, if you don't drink the lake water? Are you okay? Gross.

[John Gormley]

Oh, you're swimmin toilet.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that's what I'm trying to establish.

[John Gormley]

Go swim in my outhouse, You

[Steve McComas]

E. Coli. 99% of E. Coli is not a problem. It's not pathogenic, but it's an indicator for solid waste that's gone into the lake. And only you can only really get sick if there's pathogens associated with that fecal matter. And that means, you know, it's like etheria and some of these bad things that would come with somebody who's already has to be infected or has to be, you know, ill. And likewise, sometimes animals will have some pathogenic bacteria as well. So E. Coli is just a marker.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think, I think I can wrap this up by saying if it says beach is closed, honor the sign and

[John Gormley]

move on, I guess. Yeah, go ahead and be brave.

[Steve McComas]

It's a conservative estimate. And sometimes better to be safe than sorry, right?

[John Gormley]

I don't know if I'M getting the pronunciation right here. Lake Detective, are you familiar with the river on the border of Minnesota and Dakota called Boys Desu? How do you pronounce that?

[Steve McComas]

Yeah, that's pretty close.

[John Gormley]

It drains into the Red river flowing north. Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

That.

[John Gormley]

I've crossed over that river a few times in the past couple months. That looks like straight up poison to me. That looks really, really bad. Is that. Am I seeing field runoff? Is that what I'm seeing?

[Steve McComas]

Yes, you are. Yeah. Nitrogen and phosphorus, and it's a pretty fertile. It's a pretty fertile system. Don't forget that's draining some of the best farmland around.

[John Gormley]

Oh, yeah, it's amazing farmland. Yeah.

[Steve McComas]

That is always a challenge to keep the fertile stuff on land and keep the lakes and rivers infertile if you can. There's even a big crop of algae. Is probably only has 10, 15 pounds of organic carbon. A cornfield has 60 or 70 pounds of organic carbon. So we're still. I mean, it looks terrible, but in terms of overall fertility and yield from organic carbon standpoint, it's moderate.

[John Gormley]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is the water in the middle of a lake fresher and more refreshing than at the end of a dock?

[John Gormley]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That and what depth? I mean, if you go way down 30ft, is that really.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, that is nice and cool.

[John Gormley]

Yeah. Is it pure down there?

[Steve McComas]

Clear? Because sunlight won't get down there, so you're not having any algae growth. You'll get some. You'll get some sinking algae. But you get down below 15, 20ft, it is nice and clear and cool because you're at the thermocline. And that cooler water on the bottom, it's denser. It doesn't mix with the warmer upper water. So you got the top 10, 15ft that are. That are mixing on top of that bottom water, which is colder and denser.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know I've. I know I've asked you this before, and I can't remember the answer. If you take a lake like Lake Minnetonka or White Bear Lake or Gull Lake, anything on the cross lake chain, is any of that water been in there for hundreds of years?

[Steve McComas]

Probably not.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Steve McComas]

No, it probably has a residence time of about 10 to 15 years at the most. Lake Superior has a hundred. Takes 100 years of flush Lake Superior. But some of these lakes can be flushed in a year or two for that between groundwater and rain and then just outflow. So you'll have. These lakes will hold what is called a retention time. And it varies, but typically not much more than five to ten years.

[Joe Soucheray]

Something else I've never asked you for your extraordinary knowledge about lakes. Are you a fisherman?

[Steve McComas]

I am, but just for fun. I mean, I'll. I'll throw out a line with little kids and nephews and things just to catch some bluegills.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Steve McComas]

But you know, we're doing fish surveys. We're gonna get 2,000 fish a day, and it kind of takes the edge off.

[Kenny Olson]

He's a pro.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's a pro. You see enough fish in other wor.

[John Gormley]

I was gonna marry a Macon Hunt.

[John Height]

Go ahead.

[Steve McComas]

Full of walleyes and northerns and sunfish with a. With a fish survey as a trap net. You work those all up and then you're over the side of the boat. What you're gonna catch A little bluegill? Yeah, four inch bluegill, but it's fun for kids. And you know what? That tugging the line still is. Still is attractive.

[Joe Soucheray]

Pulls the heartstrings.

[John Gormley]

You want to. You want to get political here, Lake detective? I have a question for you. I think I know the answer. If you travel through Wyoming and Montana, you'll see mandatory boat inspect inspections where you cannot even have a boat on your vehicle or dragging it behind your vehicle without having an inspection tag on it. Do we have too many lakes in Minnesota and Wisconsin to do that? It seems like something that we could use, but how would we ever staff that? That's right.

[Steve McComas]

No, we have too many lakes for that. In Colorado out there, and you get the western states, you might have a half dozen or a dozen, maybe less than 100 lakes. So they can actually put in the stops for every single lake. Minnesota, we just. It wouldn't be practical.

[John Gormley]

Yeah, that's what I thought. Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

LD we get these heat waves every once in a while. The record temperatures for this time of year 1936 is. This is a long, hot summer. Good for lakes, bad for lakes. Does it make any difference? Is it all even out in the end?

[Steve McComas]

You know, what if we're not getting a lot of nutrient input, you know, with a lot of rain and bring in nutrients. That heat will help the native plants grow. The native plants help keep the water clear because of all the attached algae growth on the plants. So the heat actually can kind of help keep the water clear.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wonderful. Are you having a busy summer?

[Steve McComas]

It's been fun.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Steve McComas]

We say busy, busy fun. We're gonna go scuba diving next and feel pretty good.

[John Gormley]

Okay, a question about that. Do you put on the kinky rubber suit in the middle of summer, or do you just go down there in your skimpy little bathing suit.

[Steve McComas]

We go 2 to 3 millimeter suit primarily to keep us, you know, keep the weeds from, or from the little bugs jumping off the weeds onto our open skin. So a suit in the middle of the summer is more for protection against humorous itch and things like that.

[John Gormley]

Okay. Kinky.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, L.D. you've kept it up. You've never been stumped. I knew we needed a mid summer report and I'm glad you were able to check in with it.

[Steve McComas]

Well, thank you for the, for the call. And again, I'm always on the case. Anything comes up, hit it my way.

[Chris Reavers]

And don't forget, ld, it's a late Labor Day this year, so the state fair is just around the corner.

[Kenny Olson]

He'll be there Friday. Hey, if we got rid of the geese, would that help with those lakes around here? Seriously, if we got rid of the geese because they poop all the time in the lakes, would that help?

[Steve McComas]

Good, great point. Believe it or not, some poor graduate student about 20 years ago in Michigan State went around and collected all a bunch of goose poop. Had it analyzed. You need hundreds of geese to start having an adverse impact on the nutrient levels in lakes. Now E. Coli is another thing. Most of their solid waste is E. Coli, believe it or not.

[Joe Soucheray]

Really? Really. Well, LD on that note. Thank you. Yeah, it's a hell of a, hell of a question there. What a way to go out. Blue water science. America's only lake detective on garage logic. Thank you, sir.

[Steve McComas]

Thanks for that. Thanks for the call.

[Joe Soucheray]

Appreciate it, Matthew.

[Kenny Olson]

By the way, Kenny, the S in Bois is silent. Yeah, so say it for me like Bois du. What was it?

[Joe Soucheray]

What's the name of the river?

[John Gormley]

What did I say?

[Chris Reavers]

I have a question.

[Joe Soucheray]

Matthew, you're not supposed to talk to him.

[Chris Reavers]

I know. You are the outdoor expert here. Garage object. How would one get rid of the geese?

[Kenny Olson]

Shotgun. No, it was just a theory. I, I wanted.

[Joe Soucheray]

What do you want to do? Kill the geese?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, I waited until the end because I didn't want to interrupt, so I waited until you were done.

[John Gormley]

Great question.

[Kenny Olson]

Because it seems there's always geese at the runoff after rain when they're sitting in the grass.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, we got a lot of geese.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, let's get rid of them.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I, I, I, I have nothing against it.

[Chris Reavers]

I only ask that because if you. His face.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm nothing against a goose. I'm not. I randomly killing.

[Kenny Olson]

There's too many now. There's too many.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they get along, you know. What are you gonna do?

[Kenny Olson]

Thanks, Chris, for talking to me.

[Joe Soucheray]

I do appreciate it. I love that.

[Chris Reavers]

The complete dejection.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I mean, we do have a lot of geese, I'm gonna give you that.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, the local lakes that are shut down.

[Joe Soucheray]

It wasn' think it was. I'm not saying it was.

[Chris Reavers]

I didn't either, Ken, but just the look in Joe's face.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, no, no. In fact, we learned something because of your question. We learned that most goose accidentally.

[Chris Reavers]

You forgot that accidentally by accident.

[Joe Soucheray]

Most goose poop is E. Coli, which is bad, but I would bet not pathogenically as he was mentioning earlier where you were on the freeway.

[Kenny Olson]

You need a lot.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah, you said. Yeah, a lot of guy collected a lot of it.

[John Gormley]

What about homeless Hank with the diarrhea problem there?

[Kenny Olson]

Homeless Hank? Oh, just go down the falls.

[Chris Reavers]

That'll go over the. Kenny, it's funny you mentioned that. I've been.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm afraid by the way right now to eat a salad. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Rinse.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they. There's a big explosive diarrhea thing.

[Kenny Olson]

Hey, yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Going on. No. And I'm afraid to have a salad now because apparently it's on produce. And I don't know if Minnesota you

[Kenny Olson]

rinse all your fruit and your vegetables,

[Joe Soucheray]

but they say this is sticky parasite.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't like that.

[Joe Soucheray]

So, I mean, what are you gonna do? Put the lettuce on a washboard? What are you gonna do?

[John Gormley]

Yeah, she washes it. Then she's got this spinner thing that she presses the button, spins around.

[Patrick James Steven Ricey]

Yeah,

[Joe Soucheray]

we got a lot of stuff, but I don't think we got a spinner.

[John Gormley]

I bet she does.

[Joe Soucheray]

Maybe.

[Kenny Olson]

Maybe she got a colander where you shake it out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Got colanders?

[John Height]

Yeah, the washboard.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I mean, how are you gonna scrub it if it's good? You know, they've got brushes.

[John Gormley]

She uses a brush.

[Kenny Olson]

I got lettuce in my bowl.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, God.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's make a salad.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

Love that. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Gormley]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Gormley]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Because of a shortage of police officers in Minneapolis, the idea is on the table to have a 75 day pilot program at no cost to use drones as first responders in partnership with American drone manufacturer Skydio Inc. This is being met with great controversy and dismay by people in Minneapolis who have turned up to city council meetings to say that they absolutely are convinced this would be a violence violation of privacy. And I'm trying to get there. Basically, I would always err on the side of believing privacy is vital and must be sacrosanct. But I. So I don't know where I am on this. Because you don't have enough coppers. Because the socialists have made it very difficult to recruit and get police on the street. So now they want to try drones. Court cases are. I did some homework on this. This is all so new that we don't have a body of law to impact this. For example, it's not thought that police would need a Warrant to use a drone because the drone's in public airspace. Just like, I suppose a pilot copper could be flying from here to Omaha and look out the window and see a crime and, you know, somehow get himself involved with it. There wouldn't be necessary for a warrant. So I don't know where we are on this, but I guess what people fear is that the drones could violate their privacy by what, Going into their backyard, looking through their window, circling the block over and over. So what the coppers want to do is try this. It's a pilot program. They want to try it in the 4th Precinct in North Minneapolis. That's an area that frequently experiences high call volumes. The operational infrastructure is designed to complement existing emergency services without adding administrative or financial strain to taxpayers. So the drones would be housed in a docking station on the roof of Fire Station 14 at Lowry and James. When the 911 call is placed, the drone would be launched immediately alongside traditional patrol cars, often beating ground units to the scene. Well, that makes sense, doesn't it?

[Kenny Olson]

By the way the crow flies, the

[Joe Soucheray]

aircraft are not automated or randomly roaming. They are controlled entirely by FAA certified police pilots operating directly from the 911 call center. During the 75 day trial period, both a drone and a patrol car would respond to calls, allowing the city staff to directly contrast response times and data metrics. The primary advantage of this, of this technology is the capacity to act as a force multiplier for an understaffed police department. Latricia Vitaw, who represents Ward 4, is a prominent advocate for this pilot program. Pointing to the stark realities of current deployment limitations, she said, the people want safer neighborhoods, faster responses, cleaner streets, and continued progress in reducing crime. Vitas stated in her address to constituents, I am tired of saying year after year that we, that we are down officers without also bringing forward new solutions. This no cost pilot gives us the chance to evaluate an innovative tool that could improve public safety, enhance city services, reduce costs, and make the best possible use of our limited police resources. Okay, I pretty much agree with anything she ever wants to say, but I'm puzzled as to what could a drone do in terms of interrupting a crime or ministering to someone who's wounded. A drone can't do anything. It could just tell the cops where they are. Right?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, maybe follow. Follow them.

[John Gormley]

Yeah. Yeah. Or like Matthew said, follow them.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. There has been 7,485 low priority calls for service in the four just this year alone. So they're suggesting that by utilizing an aerial response to assess or clear these Minor incidents. Dispatchers can keep physical squad cars open to address more violent crime and life threatening emergencies. But what I'm puzzled, what would the drone do to address a minor incident?

[John Gormley]

Like I don't understand your question. What do you mean?

[Joe Soucheray]

So you send out a drone to one of these so called low priority call 91 1-BICYCLE.

[John Gormley]

Oh yeah, well they won't. They don't even respond to that or even cars being broken into. But yeah. Okay, let's. A minor incident, they show up first, they inform the officer of what the scene is. Is it a safe scene? Are we going to. Are we going in hot here? Is there somebody wielding a firearm? Somebody getting the s kicked out of them? It's just an initial assessment of the situation.

[Chris Reavers]

Sorry, Ken. Did you guys happen to see Liz Collins piece? I think it was last Thursday or Friday on Alpha News. She interviewed Joe Gimaldi, I believe is his name. The national vice president of the Fraternal Order of Police. Basically saying Minneapolis is so understaffed that that's why this is my opinion now. That's why I think they're resorting to these types of measures.

[John Gormley]

My concern there, Chris, is this cannot be a replacement for. God, I hate the phrase boots on the ground.

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[Chris Reavers]

I completely agree.

[John Gormley]

I mean we need the officers. This should just supplement the officers. They've been doing it in St. Paul, Joe, for a couple of years.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's what I think it could do. It could just save an officer in a car the time from going somewhere. If they can verify through the drone that it's not worth your time to get there. Just save yourself for something more serious that might come in on the radio. In other words, I don't like that. Well, what the drone flies to a neighborhood. Somebody said, hey, a kid just knocked down my gate. Okay, the drone goes the gates laying in the yard, but there's no trouble out on the streets.

[John Gormley]

You're gonna have to come up with something better than that. They don't. Those calls are for information purposes only. And they come on, you come up with one. A guy just got stabbed.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I wouldn't consider that a minor call. I would consider that a car racing.

[Chris Reavers]

Let me help though, Ken. I think what you're getting at is you don't want this to replace the officer. No one is disagreeing with you. The problem is we just don't have enough men and women that want to do the job.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, let's get back to the initial question. Is it an invasion of privacy?

[John Gormley]

Not if used in the way that they Say they're going to use it the way that St. Paul has been using it, the way Minnetonka has been using it. If these things are out on patrol looking for crime, I think that is an invasion.

[Joe Soucheray]

Many of the DSA members of the Minneapolis City Council have successfully educated their constituents to not trust the police. Right, so what you have.

[Chris Reavers]

And how's that working out?

[Joe Soucheray]

So much. Much of the testimony at city council meetings about the use of drones has resulted in civilians showing up saying, we don't trust anything the police department does. Therefore introduction of the idea that we fear this will be a loss of privacy. They've been so thoroughly brainwashed by the democratic socialists that the police are bad. We shouldn't have police. We don't trust the police. That now the police come along with a free 75 day program. We'd like to try this, ladies and gentlemen. And these people are saying, no, this is an invasion of our privacy. Well, is it or isn't it? I don't know.

[John Gormley]

That. That, that game was over years ago. And we put cameras up all over town. There's cameras at every single intersection. We have no privacy in the Twin Cities area. They're out in the freeway, they're out there on the streets. They're in your neighborhood. You're being watched.

[Joe Soucheray]

But a drone could even do that, more accurately. Yes. A drone could go right to your window and sit there.

[John Gormley]

Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, that's. Well, why would it?

[Kenny Olson]

Who is manning the drones, though?

[Joe Soucheray]

Don't we need an fa Police authorized drone? PIL was said earlier in the story.

[John Gormley]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

So what if there's five calls at once?

[Joe Soucheray]

They'd have more than one drone.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that's what I'm saying. He's got to monitor all that. That's a lot for one person.

[Chris Reavers]

If this is going to ultimately result in the community being safer, why would anyone in their right mind oppose this?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you won't know the answer to that, I suppose, till they get to test this pilot program.

[John Gormley]

Well, go over to St. Paul. They've been operational since 2023. They've answered 585 calls under seconds. Zero complaints from citizens.

[Joe Soucheray]

I have never seen a drone in St. Paul again.

[John Gormley]

Minnetonka, they launched them last year. Now here, Joe, listen to this. I think this, this supports your case. They flew 400 missions in the first six months. Drone arrived first 65% of the time. 20% of those calls cleared without needing patrol car dispatch. So you're right, Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right.

[John Gormley]

And they also tried them in San Francisco and other cities. Around the state, Duluth, Rochester.

[Joe Soucheray]

The only thing, it seems to me that would be beneficial by the use of drones is saying to a copper in car 12, never mind, you don't need to go there. That's the only thing.

[John Gormley]

No, that's. That's. I think, Joe, that's one of many things beneficial. But the other one would be, we've got three suspects with guns. It's a gunfight right now. You need to, you know, it's so beneficial in many different. Different counts.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, then how will Minneapolis resolve the question of the citizenry saying. And I didn't hear any citizens testifying on behalf of using them. The film clips I saw were everybody saying, this is a violation of our privacy and we can't have this. And we're saying no. And Vita and maybe one or two other council people are adamant that we need to give it a try. But the DSA does not want to give it a try.

[John Gormley]

The tsa. I would point up at the camera on the intersection that just caught you scratching your butt walking down Blaisdell. I mean, come on.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where do you stand on this, Mr. Height?

[John Height]

Well, I read way too much science fiction when I was young, probably.

[John Gormley]

Yeah, totally.

[John Height]

And you see these things following the citizenry around in places they shouldn't be. So that, of course, I think that right away, on the other hand, if it's done responsibly and not by, you know, people who are going to abuse it, I see no problem with it.

[John Gormley]

The opportunity is there for it to get out of hand, isn't it?

[John Height]

Yeah, yeah, certainly.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, let's look at it this way. Isn't it also inevitable technology is increasing by leaps and bounds every 24 hours? Isn't it inevitable that the day is coming when probably the entire police force in American cities will be robotic and controlled by drones or directed to places by drones? I mean, we don't know where we're headed. I suppose you could put up a good fight now and say, we don't want drones, it's invasion of our privacy. But I don't know where we're going to be ten years from now.

[John Gormley]

That's the interesting thing about technology is they always sell you on the good points and they don't bother telling you about all the negative drawbacks and how this is going to affect your life down the road.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wish I had the wisdom of Solomon on this. I would think the coppers deserve their 75 day tryout so they have some evidence to show the city. Here's what happened during the 75 days. And if during the 75 days you have 42 people who show up and say that drone hovered at my bedroom window for 15 minutes, then you got a different problem. But if that doesn't happen and they can only show benefits, wasn't it worth the try? Because you're already combating an ideological divide there from the governors, the people who govern Minneapolis. As I said, they've thoroughly and successfully educated their people. We don't trust cops. So you have a built in audience that's already full of negativity on this. So all they want to do is try this and we're being told it doesn't cost anything. I suppose the company is betting on the outcome and then it can then sell drones and make their money. But the 75 day trial period would not cost anything. I say give them the 75 day trial.

[John Height]

What's.

[John Gormley]

Yeah, I agree it's a lot of fun when the drone catches your favorite golf tournament, but it's, it's not so fun when the golf, the drone catches you standing there at the ninth hole with your mistress, then that kind of,

[Joe Soucheray]

that probably won't be my problem.

[John Gormley]

But you recognize what I'm saying?

[John Height]

Sure, yeah.

[John Gormley]

I mean, there's, you know, but you

[Joe Soucheray]

don't need drones for that. We can catch people at rock concerts with the kiss cam on them and they, oh, you know, you don't need a drone for that.

[John Gormley]

And we can catch people walking down Hennepin Avenue with their finger up their nose. I mean, it's already there. All that technology is there and being used already.

[Kenny Olson]

And you're saying you wouldn't be caught at the ninth hole because you don't see her until after you're done with golf. Golf.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, no, I probably wouldn't even make it till the ninth hole.

[John Gormley]

You've got her an apartment somewhere.

[Chris Reavers]

What if we just replaced all the drones with geese? Take all the geese from the lakes, put a camera.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. You're going to hear a lot more about this. This is going to become a big, big deal in Minneapolis.

[Chris Reavers]

But it's, it's going to become a big, big deal again. No one wants the freaking job. They're in panic mode. And I understand that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, and that will only increase in difficulty because anything the police come up with, there's a built in audience to reject it 100%. So I don't know what would be after drones. But if they say, okay, you don't want drones now let's try X. They're not going to like X either.

[Chris Reavers]

Remember, we had this story maybe a couple of years ago, Kenny, and you alluded to it earlier, the 911 calls that basically went on. Well, okay, we'll try to get there.

[John Gormley]

But you know, the last time my truck was broken into, they said they're not coming. By the way, did you have any guns or ammunition in there? No, I didn't have any guns, but yeah, I had a box of 22 rounds. They came for that. They only show up if there's firearms or ammunition in your vehicle. Otherwise. Otherwise they just don't have the time.

[Steve McComas]

Wow.

[John Gormley]

Well, that was before George Floyd

[Joe Soucheray]

from the mayor's office of Garage Logic. I am giving the approval to the 75 day trial.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, officially.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Now, hobbyist drones that hover over your backyard pool, I think you should be able to shoot those. Yes. Right. Here's John Hyde in his newsroom.

[Chris Reavers]

As you say that, though, if these are Minneapolis police issued drones, if someone does shoot one down, is that a felony? What would that be?

[Joe Soucheray]

I think that would be a crime. I don't know the extent of the crime, but okay, they better have a big police shoot them down.

[John Gormley]

Did I ever tell you the story about we had a meteorologist, John. That was never on the air. What was his last name? Matthew.

[Kenny Olson]

John Dooley.

[John Gormley]

John Dooley. I'm in the weather room with him one afternoon and we're using the tower cam for surveillance, for, you know, surveillance looking around the neighborhood. A phone ring. Of course, you were the pole. The phone rings and it's the control room and they say, stop it right there. And they instantly went on the air with what we were looking at.

[Kenny Olson]

Really?

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

What were you looking at?

[Chris Reavers]

None of your business.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John Height in his newsroom about that.

[John Height]

All I got out of that Caddy was I started singing Tom Dooley as soon as you said his name. Hang down your head, Tom Dooley. All right, thanks, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Bank Company. They're closing up the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness starting tomorrow, according to the U.S. forest Service. The reason? Dangerous heat and several wildfires that are burning around the state. All guests who have overnight hiking, motor and paddle use reservations will be denied entry into the 1 million acre federally protected wilderness within the Superior National Forest starting today and running through Friday. The Bearskin Lodge and Ely Outfitting Co. Also posted notices from the U.S. forest Service about the impending Clos. Forest Service will allow visitors with daily use reservations to enter the area today, but they will not be letting in starting tomorrow. Governor Walz has declared a peacetime emergency and mobilized the Minnesota National Guard to help fight ongoing wildfires in northern Minnesota. Three people who went missing after a boat crash in Lake Pepin on Saturday have been found dead. And according to the Wabasha County Sheriff's Office, six people were thrown overboard Saturday night when a pontoon boat capsized just off the shore of the YMCA Pepin on the Wisconsin side of the lake. U.S. coast Guard added it received a report from the DNR that the boat collided with a commercial barge on the Mississippi River. At 10:30pm Emergency crews responded to a report of people screaming for help in the water. Around 10:45, three people were found clinging to the overturned boat. They informed rescuers. Three others were on the boat with them, but they hadn't reappeared. While the incident happened near the YMCA camp, no campers or camp staff were involved. Just after 7 o' clock last night, Wisconsin DNR officials said the three missing voters had been recovered. All three were pronounced dead by the Pepin county coroner. Their names are not being released at this time, according to the sheriff's office and the Wisconsin DNR is leading the investigation into the crash.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know how you would hit a barge.

[Kenny Olson]

Pretty tough.

[Joe Soucheray]

They're pretty big.

[Kenny Olson]

It's kind of like if you hit

[Joe Soucheray]

by a train, it's your fault maybe. Did the barge not. Was the barge not well lit? I. I don't know anything about it,

[John Gormley]

but they don't have. They're pushed, right? They don't have lights on the bow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, you would think they should, but I don't know. I don't know.

[John Gormley]

Wouldn't the onus though be on the pontoon operator to steer clear of the barge?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes.

[John Gormley]

Yeah, I don't think that I would accept the invitation to go out on Pepin at night. I think I'd be unsure.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep.

[John Height]

Maple Grove's fire chief is on administrative leave after he's been charged for allegedly sexually assaulting a teenager almost 10 years ago. 36 year old Madison Zigmund was charged with third degree criminal sexual conduct for sexually abusing a 17 year old girl in 2017. At complaint said the victim told police June 26 that Zigmund assaulted her when she was was a Fire Explorer with the Spring Lake Park Blaine Mounds View Fire Department where he was leader of the Explorer program. On June 30, an Anoka County Sheriff's detective interviewed the victim who said she joined the program in July or August of 2016 when she was 16, the complaint said the two first communicated by text, then on Snapchat and Instagram, according to the court document. The messages became sexually explicit and included requests for nude photos, the victim told investigators. In the spring of 2017, Zigmund invited her to his plane home where he allegedly sexually assaulted her. On July 1, Zigmund met with an investigator at the Anoka County Sheriff's office. The court document said he admitted he was an authority figure with the Fire Explorer Group, admitted he exchanged explicit photographs with the teenage girl. He denied having sex with the girl, but said he did touch her. The city said fire and emergency services remained fully operational. It would follow its employment practices and procedures. While the legal matter continued. Zigmund set to make his first court appearance September 4th. This story I you know, I hope nobody got hurt bad and I don't mean to make fun of it, but this, this has some weird optics to it. The Minneapolis police investigating who was behind an auto theft Saturday morning of a truck and a trailer. The trailer had three people inside it, according to police. Officers were told a pickup truck with a food trailer attached was stolen around 8:53 in the morning the 3400 block of Bloomington Avenue. While three people were inside the food trailer, a black sedan believed to have been used by the suspects followed the stolen truck and trailer, as well as a white vehicle carrying people who knew those stuck in the trailer. So it sounds like they were getting the food trailer maybe to go out for the the day, right?

[Joe Soucheray]

Sure, sure, yeah.

[John Height]

During the ongoing incident, police said a man and woman inside the trailer jumped as it was moving and they did sustain injuries from their escape. Both were taken to the hospital for treatment. As the stolen truck and trailer approached the intersection of 41st street and 31st Avenue, police said it crashed with the white vehicle which had been following the suspects. As a result of the crash, the truck became separated from the trail trailer and drove off with the white sedan, leaving the trailer. Nobody was injured seriously in the crash, including a third person who was still in the trailer. Minneapolis police said they later located the pickup truck in the 1400 block of 3rd Street south, unoccupied. No arrests have been made, but police said they are still investigating the entire incident. Why don't we take a quick break here. We'll come back with some national and international stuff right after we hear from the mayor.

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[Joe Soucheray]

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[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, I got her.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's the end of the world as we know it and he feels fine. Joe Sugiray.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Here's Sean.

[Kenny Olson]

632-47-4329.

[Joe Soucheray]

They do it right.

[John Height]

Thanks, Rook. In national and international news, US And Iranian forces exchanging heavy missile and drone assaults yesterday with Tehran targeting US Facilities in states across the Gulf and saying it had again closed the vital Strait of Hormuz. The renewed violence cast further doubt on the future of that interim U. S. Iranian agreement signed last month that aimed to reopen the strait and end the war. After a further 60 days of negotiations, US military launched more strikes against Iran Sunday afternoon. According to Central Command. Higher prices, especially for gasoline, are politically sensitive for President Trump ahead of November's congressional elections, much of it due to the trouble in Iran.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what, John?

[John Height]

Yes, sir?

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you know what our president said about kamikaze pilots?

[John Height]

What did he say?

[Joe Soucheray]

Say they deserve the death penalty. Well, I'll give you a minute to figure that out.

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

Wait a minute.

[Joe Soucheray]

Reers and I were talking before the show.

[Josh Arnold]

What.

[Joe Soucheray]

What if this is all a bit and at the, at the end of two years, he tears off the mask and it's Carrot Top or somebody. I mean, it's just.

[Kenny Olson]

That would be fun.

[Joe Soucheray]

What if this was all just a

[Chris Reavers]

bit they got me?

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, old kamikaze pilots say, well, he deserved the death. Yes, they do.

[John Height]

So wait a minute.

[Chris Reavers]

Check this out. You mean to tell me so if a kamikaze pilot miraculously survives, then he

[Joe Soucheray]

would get the president?

[Chris Reavers]

Don says.

[Joe Soucheray]

That must have been what Don meant. I'm sure he knows what kamikaze pilots do. I'm sure he does.

[John Height]

Speaking of gas prices, the U.S. have

[John Gormley]

they been used since World War II?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, he thought the strait was being involved by or attacked by the Islamic Republic of Japan. So he could have been tied up there. With the kamikaze.

[John Gormley]

So he, he's. Is he in his own way referring to people that blow themselves up and do that? Sort of.

[Joe Soucheray]

As I said, what if it's a bed and he's invented this whole new way of looking at things.

[John Height]

Maybe drones. Maybe he's referring to drones and he's just, you know, mixing the. Mixing. Whatever. Okay.

[John Gormley]

You know who benefits from all this is the guys that do the Donald Trump impersonations. And now there's so many of them that are so, so good that they have little wars and they get together and just try to outdo each other and it's, it's great entertainment. What would be even funnier if they would call in the real president and the president would do battle with all the people that impersonate him.

[Joe Soucheray]

I bet he would.

[John Gormley]

Oh, of course he would. That would be so funny.

[Chris Reavers]

You mean in the same vein when Caliendo and Rookie did dueling Morgan Freeman's.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. And Rookie was doing somebody. We just don't know who.

[Kenny Olson]

Somebody. We just don't know who.

[John Height]

Speaking of gas prices, the US Is tapping into its national stocks of crude oil with abandon. The withdrawals are taking a toll on the strategic reserve system. Wall Street Journal reporting that in the past four years, the Biden and Trump administrations have ordered the largest releases from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve while seeking to tamp down soaring oil prices. A total of 352 million barrels, or about half the capacity of the stocks on hand. Now frequent drawdowns, wear and tear and a lack of investments are straining the reserve. According to experts, the 60 Gulf coast salt caverns that make up the stocks can't be drawn from or refilled at the rate at which they're designed. According to federal researchers, equipment failures have bedeviled the reserve's managers. At one point, a well broken cause the loss of hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil. The upshot? President Trump or future administration might not be able to rely on the massive oil buffer like others have in the past, even as the US Iran war all but ensures continued volatility. Volatility in the energy markets. Federal judge this morning ruling that President Trump's lawsuit against the IRS was an improper exercise in self dealing and barred him from claiming that the extraordinary tax protections he received were part of a legitimate settlement agreement. In the order of the judge Kathleen Williams. She also referred the lawyer who brought Trump's case against the IRS to the Florida Bar for potential disciplinary proceedings. Judge Williams added that she would forward her decision to the New York, which is already Investigating the acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham dying Saturday night from an aortic rupture related to cardiac disease. According to preliminary reports from medical examiners, as recently as the day before Friday afternoon, Graham had been in Kiev meeting with Ukrainian lawmakers before returning on Saturday morning. Born in the small South Carolina town of Central, the 71 year old spent more than three decades as an Air Force lawyer, part of the South Carolina Air National Guard and Res Reserve. He was seeking reelection in the upcoming midterms. Governor Henry McMaster will now select his interim replacement, likely providing an inside track to the party's nomination. Graham was a notable foe of Donald Trump before switching to his side. During an interview when Trump was running initially for the presidency, Graham called the President a race baiting, xenophobic religious bigot who was a kook unfit for office after January 6, Graham said he was done with the President and he wasn't at that point. President Trump said this morning he recommended Graham's sister to replace him as the interim South Carolina senator.

[Joe Soucheray]

She has no knowledge of anything.

[John Height]

During a conversation with Governor McMaster, I

[Joe Soucheray]

heard on another station. This says a great deal to me about Lindsey Graham. His net worth was about a million and a half. Okay, well, maybe he was ethical. He didn't steal money like the rest of these crooks.

[Chris Reavers]

Or was he just bad at it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Maybe he's just bad at it.

[Josh Arnold]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was a great life.

[John Gormley]

Always looking for the negative and every positive. Sorry.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, but you know, the, the conspiracy theorists were really having a field day over the weekend.

[John Height]

They're out in full force.

[Joe Soucheray]

What about the weekend of Bernie's guy?

[John Height]

I got that right here. Got that right right here. Separately, Senator Mitch McConnell addressed his nearly month long hospitalization for the first time yesterday, saying he suffered injuries from a fall at his home. He was pictured with his wife and Joe suitor Elaine. Joe in the hospital room holding a copy of yesterday's newspaper, which has really caused a lot of really funny memes to pop up all over. I saw one with Abraham Lincoln holding yesterday's paper saying, ah, proof Abe's still alive.

[Joe Soucheray]

I understand. My wife was interested in that gar project, the shower. And I'm glad that she's seen light come back to me now and prop me up.

[John Gormley]

That makes me want to punch somebody. I, I wish you would stop doing that. Makes me angry, that impersonation.

[John Height]

Why, why didn't they just tape 10 seconds of him saying hi, I'm fine.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, John, cuz he's probably not alive it's all AI.

[John Gormley]

We know he's dead.

[Steve McComas]

Yeah.

[Patrick James Steven Ricey]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[John Gormley]

Truth. I'm just talking.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know. You know, I don't know.

[Kenny Olson]

Talking.

[Joe Soucheray]

I. I think there's this equal. Is. There's as good a chance he's dead as he's alive.

[John Height]

We should get that on a T shirt. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't.

[John Height]

Garage Logic.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I don't know.

[John Height]

New York Times says several of its journalists have been subpoenaed by the Department of Justice over their reporting on Air Force 1A on Wednesday.

[Joe Soucheray]

Just go bleep yourself, Trump. You don't get to sue reporters.

[John Height]

On Wednesday, the newspaper published an anonymous, anonymously sourced story that the Secret Service urged President Trump to leave the recent NATO summit in Turkey on an older version of Air Force One instead of that Boeing 747 donated by Qatar last year because of security concerns.

[Joe Soucheray]

Mean the one that's only cost just 400 million to fix up. Okay, that one.

[John Height]

The following day, the Times reported, again citing anonymous sources, the gifted plane lacked defensive counter measures. The four reporters bylined on Wednesday's article all received subpoenas, according to the Times, and the paper said federal agents delivered those subpoenas Friday night to reporters in their homes before the Times published the Wednesday article.

[Joe Soucheray]

Usually that doesn't happen in this country. Yeah, it really doesn't.

[John Height]

Before the Times published the Wednesday article, a senior FBI official had contacted a reporter and editor, asked that the story be held without explaining why, according to a New York Times spokesperson. The FBI official also asked that sources be immediately identified. Both Times employees refused to do either good. Sam Neill, the versatile New Zealand actor who appeared in more than 150 productions over a five decade career, has died. Most famously, he was paleontologist Dr. Alan Grant in the Jurassic park series. His family announced the death in a post on Instagram. Neil was diagnosed with angio immunoblastic T cell lymphoma in March of 2022. His credits include the Piano, Hunt for the Wilder People, the Hollywood blockbusters Jurassic park and all of its sequels. And two seasons. Joe, you probably remember him on this two seasons of Peaky Blinders.

[Joe Soucheray]

I remember him in a film too, about a boat that was in Adrift in the Ocean. And he was the lone guy on it. And then he came upon another. Never mind. I can't.

[Patrick James Steven Ricey]

Shelby.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I. Never mind. I don't remember the worst thing.

[Chris Reavers]

When did Peaky Blinders come up? About 2014, 13, something like that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Something around there.

[Chris Reavers]

The worst part about that show, and it was a great show. But the worst part about that show coming into existence was Rookie developing the actual accent off the air.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, this is fantastic.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wonderful show.

[Chris Reavers]

Because we had the intern 2013. Didn't we have Will?

[Kenny Olson]

That was pre Will, I think at Birmingham. Birmingham.

[Chris Reavers]

See, you would do this three hours a day.

[Kenny Olson]

Would you like a Girton gherkin or Gherkin?

[Joe Soucheray]

Girton's is a gardening place.

[Kenny Olson]

Very green.

[John Gormley]

Are you gonna take control of this

[Joe Soucheray]

or what are you gonna sit there waiting for?

[John Gormley]

John, what this happen?

[John Height]

Spooky story. Okay. This was in the New York Post, so. Yeah, it might be a little. Yeah. But you want to take it with a grain of salt, but who knows? A family's holiday truck took a truly surreal turn after they made a bizarre discovery inside their Airbnb. After walking inside the San Diego, California accommodation, two sisters noticed something strange on the wall that they didn't expect. A picture of a beach scene with numerous people. People including their family.

[Kenny Olson]

Whoa.

[John Height]

The picture. Picture was from a decade before. According to the sisters. They shared their find in a now viral video where they explained how they spotted the picture hanging inside the holiday rental and quickly realized it featured their own family from about 10 years earlier. After taking a closer look, they confirmed it really was them by matching their face. Faces and their bathing suits that they've been wearing during the beach outing. The unexpected discovery left the siblings in disbelief, with one of the sisters admitting they were spiraling at the odds of stumbling upon a picture of themselves in a home that they had never been in. Though the family never learned how the photograph found its way into the home, they were certain it was genuine, recognizing each family member and what they were wearing that day at the beach.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I'm calling BS right off the bat on this claim that they couldn't find out how the picture.

[John Height]

Well, just ask.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why don't you just ask the people who own the damn house?

[John Height]

Ask the owners. See, I thought. I'm glad you said that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Reporting isn't what it used to be.

[John Height]

Yeah. Or even, why not have the reporter just call and say, hey, hey, how come you got that picture?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I'm sure it's all honest and random.

[John Height]

It was. I saw the picture there. There's about 30 people in the picture. Because it's a large beach scene.

[John Gormley]

Yeah.

[John Height]

So they would have had to have noticed this.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right. Thank you very much, John. That's just fine. Thank you.

[Chris Reavers]

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[John Gormley]

You cannot stop him.

[Chris Reavers]

He'll just make a move.

[John Gormley]

Joe Sugiray.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, gratefully enough, Greta Thunberg has been out of the news lately. I don't know what or where she is, but her sister's now in the news. Oh, and her sister's quite different than Greta. Her sister is Beata Mona Lisa. That's her name. No, she's 20 years old. So she's younger than Greta. And this, this character is a. Claims to be an entertainer. And there's some pictures of her here and she's, she's. I don't know what kind of entertainment she would be involved in.

[John Gormley]

Oh, she's a multi hyphenate. No, that's, that's her name. Multi hyphenate, sorry. Singing chops of a jazz singer. That really doesn't help either. Gigantic pea sized like double P bosoms. I don't think that's helpful either.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you know that they take their garages seriously in England? They call them sheds.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, precision garage door.

[John Gormley]

We just. Are we done with the.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what? I was gonna say some stuff and I thought better of it. I, I don't really care about.

[John Gormley]

The only thing worth commenting about is her name, Matthew. She was named after her grandma and her great grandma. So that's where the name comes.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think it's excusable. I think basically they're a show business family. I think Greta, I think her parents are in the theater.

[Kenny Olson]

You said that from day one.

[Joe Soucheray]

And Greta's in show business. And so is this very corpulent young sister here.

[John Gormley]

That's a great way of putting it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Much classier than what I see it is. Britain's. They, they have a. The Pub Shed of the Year contest. Thousands of entries from the Brits who fix up their backyard sheds or whatever into pubs, little pubs. And there's one here that has a pool table in it and a dartboard and arcade games and a fruit machine and all the bottles. It's a bar, See? They have these contests.

[Kenny Olson]

Are they just a little more precious than we are? We just put stuff in the garage and call it the escape.

[Joe Soucheray]

They, they sometimes take a chicken coop and turn it into a, a bar. And they're very heavy on the bar part. They're heavy on the bar part. It's not, I'm not seeing a lot of cars here. These are just sheds that have become bars. And so there's no workbenches or tools or anything like that. They're drinking emporiums and they, they, they put these together and they have, have them in their, in their backyard.

[Kenny Olson]

Do they ever do anything in them other than drink beer?

[Joe Soucheray]

No. Here's one called the Mucky Pub. Yeah. And that's, they're theme based, I would imagine that's over there someplace. Yeah. And then they have, they have the. Well, I am trying to. It's not that interesting is what I'm discovering.

[Kenny Olson]

You know, it's their sheds and they're, they're, they doll them up.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's a couple more. Matt, how about geese

[John Gormley]

again? We, we can't hear.

[Joe Soucheray]

What did he say? What did he say?

[Chris Reavers]

Mona Lisa.

[Kenny Olson]

We should go back to Mona Lisa.

[Joe Soucheray]

Quit talking. Go back to the chubby Mona Lisa. Yeah. And I'm done with that too, so that didn't work out.

[John Gormley]

How many books, how many books about, about sheds do you have?

[Joe Soucheray]

I have one. It's all the Australian sheds.

[John Gormley]

Mine, I think, comes from Britain, so that'd be neat.

[Patrick James Steven Ricey]

Yeah.

[John Gormley]

But none of these sheds are over, say 12ft long.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, no, they're small sheds.

[John Gormley]

I've got a shed over there that's 50 by 100.

[Joe Soucheray]

You got a good size shed that's A.

[John Gormley]

That's a big shed.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's. That's a man shed.

[John Gormley]

One time when it was empty, my son and I turned it into a rake racetrack and racing in there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Reivers. Are you aware that your girl is up for grabs?

[Chris Reavers]

What do you mean?

[Joe Soucheray]

Kristi Noem is divorcing that. That Tran. That cross dressing husband of hers.

[Chris Reavers]

I thought they already were.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, they're soon to be divorced.

[Chris Reavers]

And didn't she get caught, you know, in the.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, all I'm saying is you could take your run and say so.

[Chris Reavers]

You're telling me there's a chance?

[Joe Soucheray]

There's a chance. I'm telling you there's a chance.

[Steve McComas]

All right.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I have a flag update.

[John Gormley]

I'm sure she's extremely interested.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do we have Pequot Lakes on the crawl yet? Because Jeff writes me that the Pequot Lakes true flag is confirmed.

[Chris Reavers]

By the way, I don't think you realize the can of worms that you opened on Friday with.

[Joe Soucheray]

What?

[John Gormley]

Yeah, did you hear from him, by the way?

[Kenny Olson]

Who?

[Joe Soucheray]

That crackpot?

[John Gormley]

No, my buddy.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, I didn't.

[John Gormley]

Am I in trouble with him?

[Chris Reavers]

No, I don't think so. But I guess what I was trying to get to was when Kenny.

[Joe Soucheray]

His bed is getting kind of old.

[Chris Reavers]

It has been for years.

[Josh Arnold]

When.

[John Gormley]

Well, fire me.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, not you.

[Steve McComas]

You

[John Gormley]

get rid of me. Come on.

[Chris Reavers]

When you confirmed that the city. Was it the city hall? The city in Ashby?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah, but you didn't. I don't think you. Well, it was close enough. It was down the street.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, what's your problem?

[Chris Reavers]

Because now just because there some guy has a state. An old Minnesota state flight.

[John Gormley]

Oh, Chris. Brings up a great point.

[Chris Reavers]

That's that you don't realize the can of worms you're.

[John Gormley]

I think you have to take. I think you have to take Ashby off the list.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not taking Ashby off the list.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, okay, I'm the mayor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Just because it angers that school.

[John Gormley]

Okay, don't tell you, but it's fake news, Joe. Yeah, you're reporting fake news.

[Joe Soucheray]

Only because they come to us.

[Chris Reavers]

Kenny, what's the name of your Sheds book on. I'm not making.

[John Gormley]

It's called Sheds.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, mine. Mine is called Sheds.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Only because they come to us all the way from Marleth park in Pumalanga, South Africa. From the traveling lineman's. It was on this day.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe. Today is already July 13th.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't take it, man. Summer's happy half over. This is just.

[Chris Reavers]

Days are getting shorter.

[Joe Soucheray]

Not good, Joe.

[John Gormley]

105 degrees in Cody on Saturday. 7% humidity.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, it was wonderful.

[John Gormley]

It was delightful. Outside.

[Chris Reavers]

Kenny's air conditioning was set at 61.

[John Gormley]

I was in the hotel naked in front of the air conditioner, legs spread.

[Kenny Olson]

No, no one doing okay there for a minute. One detail too many. One detail over.

[John Gormley]

Hi, how are you?

[Joe Soucheray]

It was on this day.

[Chris Reavers]

Laying on a towel.

[Joe Soucheray]

I can't get the image out of my head.

[John Gormley]

Looking out the window.

[John Height]

By the way, we'll see you tomorrow, everybody.

[John Gormley]

They put those ACs right under.

[Joe Soucheray]

It was on this day. It was on this day.

[Chris Reavers]

July.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1787, Congress passed the Northwest Ordinance. Authored by Thomas Jefferson. It set up the rules of government for the Northwest Territory of the US which included present day Minnesota, east of the Mississippi River. Slavery was outlawed. The land was to be surveyed into townships and each township was to set aside a land for a school. In addition, the ordinance stated that the utmost good faith shall always be observed toward the Indians, their land and property.

[John Height]

Good one.

[Joe Soucheray]

What the hell happened?

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day I could picture. Can you just settle down with the

[Chris Reavers]

Velveeta Mac and cheese and stuff?

[Kenny Olson]

By the way, salmon from the convenience store.

[John Gormley]

By the way, in three days, I didn't buy a meal out once. I just ate leftover hot dish the whole weekend.

[Josh Arnold Legal Disclaimer]

Wow.

[Chris Reavers]

Living the high life.

[Joe Soucheray]

Man on a loaf of bread.

[John Gormley]

Sandwich meat.

[Joe Soucheray]

Some sandwich chips. On this day, July 13th.

[John Gormley]

Some licorice.

[Joe Soucheray]

In 1832, Oza wind dib yellow. An Ojibwe leader and a Goqua showed Henry Rowe Schoolcraft that Lake Itasca was the source of the Mississippi River. Schoolcraft named the lake from the Latin words Veritas caput truth head, using the last civil of Veritas and the first of Kaput. First. Let's see the last.

[Chris Reavers]

Good one, Joe.

[Kenny Olson]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you having a stroke on this day, Joe?

[Chris Reavers]

Today is July 13, 1862.

[Joe Soucheray]

The 3rd Minnesota Infantry Regiment suffered one of the greatest embarrassments of the Civil War when it surrendered to a smaller Confederate force led by Nathan Bedford Forrest, who convinced the Minnesotans that his force was much larger than theirs. The men were paroled and eventually returned to action, to fighting. Fighting well under new officers. So they fell for that old. Hey, we're good. We got a lot of people back here.

[John Height]

May I interrupt you for a moment?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Because I was curious what an Ogaqua was.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm sure you were.

[John Height]

Well, weren't you? It wasn't me.

[Joe Soucheray]

I guess I am.

[John Height]

It wasn't capitalist medicine man. Well, no. Ogakwa was an Ojibwe word for A person designated male at birth who adopts social roles as a female.

[Joe Soucheray]

A trans Indian.

[John Height]

Yeah, basically.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll be damned. On this day, July 13th in 1881, this would not have made my. This would not have made my. This day in history, Faribault began requiring dog licenses.

[Chris Reavers]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

We were the first one.

[Joe Soucheray]

I guess I.

[John Gormley]

Okay, Jack, Is that when the mystery began?

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes. What's the next year, John?

[John Height]

1890.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, yeah. On this day, July 13th. Speaking of Lake Pepin, on this day in 1890, the steamer seawing. That's a cool name. Carrying a large party and towing a barge. Boy, this is just terrible. Compared to what the news is. A lot of barge talk capsized in a sudden storm on Lake Pepin. 25 individuals managed to get back on the boat, but a few hours later, the boat turned turtle again, again throwing survivors back into the water. By the time the boat and the barge were driven ashore, 98 people drowned.

[Patrick James Steven Ricey]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Surprisingly, no one on the barge was hurt. That doesn't surprise me. The barge probably was too heavy to capsize. On this day, July 13th in 1977, the city of Kenney in St. Louis county seceded from the. The city council, frustrated by unsuccessful attempts to obtain a grant from the federal government for a water project, decided to secede and apply for foreign aid because there is less paperwork. Pat would love that. There's no paperwork.

[Kenny Olson]

I think he's chuckling in the other room.

[Joe Soucheray]

Passports were issued by sympathizers in New Haven, Connecticut. Although the US did not recognize Kinney as a foreign country, Duluth's frozen food king, Gino Palucci, did. Giving Kinney a used Ford to replace the city police car, which no longer ran, and 10 cases of frozen pizza.

[Steve McComas]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's the damnedest story I've ever heard in my life. And we've had it before. On this day in history, about a year ago, probably.

[John Height]

On this day last year now it was a Sunday.

[Josh Arnold Legal Disclaimer]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in sports disappointment history.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe, who'd we lose to on July 13th?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, in 2021, it just says Parisi Suter buyout. What does that mean?

[Steve McComas]

We got rid of them.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, you didn't get rid of. We got rid of them after 2021.

[Kenny Olson]

What year was this?

[Joe Soucheray]

This is 2026. When did they buy out Parisi and Suitor? I know when they left 2021, maybe. Not 2021, was it, Pat?

[Progressive Insurance Announcer]

Yes.

[Josh Arnold]

Yes.

[Chris Reavers]

That was the buyouts of their contract.

[Joe Soucheray]

They've been gone that long?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll be darned. Thank you very much.

[Kenny Olson]

I Like to be darned.

[Chris Reavers]

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[Josh Arnold Legal Disclaimer]

yeah,

[Chris Reavers]

it is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in Garage Logic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly but I didn't pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number you are going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yep, I use the word free 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy Josh, oil is up. Of all the concerns dealing with Iran, the Seattle Seahawks just sold for $9.6 billion. And my goodness gracious, what else are we going to talk about today?

[Josh Arnold]

Well, I think the, the most I'm going to say for me a very exciting, exciting detail because a lot of our listeners are sports fans. I'm a sports fan and we have been talking about owning sports teams and how the and how and ownership stake in sports teams has gone way, way, way up. So while many market participants are concerned that the price of oil is back up because the President has put has reimposed a blockade the Straits of Hormuz and has even proposed 20%, we'll say we'll just even put it 20% protection charge to escort ship through the through the strait and the market sold off on the price. Oil moving up, bond prices going down, which means yields are going up and the AI trade. So memory memory chip stocks are going down. Regular semiconductor chips prices are going down just despite a big increase in revenues reported from Taiwan Semiconductor. Of course with revenues up 60% at Taiwan. Semiconductor concerns of course would be can that, can that revenue increase be maintained? Probably not. But and I say but chip sales should continue but maybe not at the same pace that they have. There is a. There's high demand for chip particularly related to data centers and limited ply and but right now the semiconductors seem to be trading not you know on a specific but as a group and you can see that just with the movement of some of the exchange traded funds that track semiconductors such as SMH, XLK and the one that tracks memory prices DRA. I think with all of the ETFs moving in similar direction either up or down, that is what done we'll say by some hedge funds and an awful lot of we'll say retail scale speculator. I still like several chip names we'll say including Nvidia and Intel. But and I'll say in Nvidia is just bouncing off a recent low as money has come out of we'll say the largest company by market capitalization, Nvidia in order to go into into some recent IPOs including SpaceX and SK Hynix last week. SK Hynix by the way in the US is down after a big big move up on Friday when it came out is down 8% today with selling in in the chip space. Now maybe of course some of that money that's being taken off the table and chips came from the new owner of or new potential owner of the Seattle Seahawksan. Kalosh, who is original founder or co founder of Sun Microsystems and now is a venture capital in technology, is also a part owner of the San Francisco 49ers and once he buys or is approved for buying the Seattle Seahawks for $9.6 billion, he'll sell his stake in the 49ers. It is interesting he is buying the Seahawks from the estate of Paul Allen who is a co founder of Microsoft. Paul Allen bought the Seattle Seahawks in 1990 for $197 million and his estate not quite 30, 30 years later able to claim $9.6 billion. Paul Allen is also responsible with his purchase of the Seahawks in 1997 for keeping them in Seattle rather than letting them move to Southern California again. I just find it very, very interesting the amount of money that is going to the purchase of these sports teams. Indeed there is a lot of demand and few I'll say limited supply which has pushed the price up. And there still are, as we've discussed before, a few opportunities left for you or I to become owners of a sports franchise, although teeny owner through public ownership in the Atlanta at the Braves which is still publicly traded. The New York Rangers and the New York Knicks traded under Madison Square Garden. The soccer team Manchester United is also publicly traded as is for all you race car folks, fans, Formula 1. Additionally, Mario Gabelli who is a big big proponent of owning sports related franchises has recently introduced his new exchange traded fund under the market symbol Goals G O L S which affords opportunity in sports related companies. Again, this is a new ipo. Really can't comment on or can't comment too much on its potential, but I have always liked we'll say leisure related business of which owning sports franchises is just a part.

[Chris Reavers]

Excellent advice as always Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him jailers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and also make that call for that free. Yep, I use the word free 48 minute financial consultation and again with absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952925608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

Look forward to it. Thanks Chris.

[Josh Arnold Legal Disclaimer]

Investment Services Offered by Josh Arnold Investment Consultant, llc. A security investment advisor. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. All investments involve risk. All comments and opinions are Josh Arnold's and do not constitute investment advice.

[Joe Soucheray]

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