7/15 The MN paid family leave act has been an out of control, expensive, utter disaster

Summary

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Garage Logic – July 15, 2026

Episode: "The MN Paid Family Leave Act Has Been an Out of Control, Expensive, Utter Disaster"

Host: Joe Soucheray, with Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, John Height, Matthew Long, and Josh Arnold
Podcast Network: Gamut Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

On this episode of Garage Logic, the panel dives into what they describe as the disastrous consequences of Minnesota’s Paid Family Leave Act, calling it a bloated, unnecessary, expensive government program advancing unchecked. The conversation expands into related issues—government overreach, bureaucratic inefficiency, lack of historical perspective among younger generations, the cyclical nature of weather hysteria, and the ease with which government programs become subject to misuse and fraud. The tone, as always, is irreverent and conversational, rooted in a belief in common sense, skepticism toward government expansion, and a reverence for self-reliance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power of One Complaint (06:03–11:15)

• Joe shares an anecdote about a zoning dispute in Ohio in which one neighbor’s complaint triggered a Kafkaesque process barring a man from holding prayer meetings in his home, demonstrating how one complaint can launch bureaucratic overreach.
• Panel links this story to the broader trend of "the power of one comment" instigating disproportionate policy or enforcement responses.
• Quote: “The power of one voice always amazes me...We’ve seen this happen time and again where one complaint fires up some sort of machinery in the bureaucracy.” — Joe Soucheray (05:45)

2. Cargo Bikes, Cars, and Urban Lifestyle Divides (11:17–13:38)

• Listeners’ emails spark a debate about cargo bikes and the urban "no car" lifestyle, often chosen by newcomers lacking local family ties or extended travel needs.
• Kenny derides the impracticality and burden of the no-car lifestyle in Minnesota; Joe and others note it’s convenient only for a small set of urban dwellers.

3. Weather Hysteria & Historical Context (13:38–20:57)

• The panel references the 1936 heatwave, which still holds Minnesota’s hottest day record, challenging current media claims of “unprecedented” weather.
• Discussion about how air conditioning (AC) now prevents heat-related deaths, but also ironically enabled bigger government by keeping politicians in session longer.
• Quote: “If what the climate alarmists tell us is true, why have we not had a hotter day in the 90 years since then?” — Joe Soucheray, paraphrasing listener Downing (14:01)

4. Generational Loss of Historical Curiosity (17:19–20:47)

• Joe laments that younger generations, especially those fresh out of the “failed academy,” lack context and perspective, living as “prisoners of the moment” and being largely ignorant of history’s cycles.
• Quote: “The cycle of nature is unknown to the modern 30-year-old or 25-year-old, if not unknown, unappreciated, not understood.” — Joe Soucheray (18:40)

5. Legislative Overreach: Paid Family Leave Act (26:33–39:00)

The Panel's Critique:

• The act, passed in 2023 by Governor Walz and the Democrat-led legislature, allows up to 12 weeks of paid medical and family leave, funded via a 0.88% payroll tax split between employers and employees.
• In just six months, $600 million has been paid out to 75,000 recipients—on track to more than double the program’s first-year budget.
• The hosts slam lawmakers for passing the act against strong business opposition and with little public demand, framing it as another example of government seizing money for programs the public didn’t ask for.
• Concerns include administrative delays, potential fraud, and the possibility that illegal aliens also benefit (since the state refuses to clarify).
• They argue most Minnesota employers already provided generous leave, and the state's action undercuts private solutions.
• Quotes:
  • “It was created...by Tim Walz and Democrats. The program allows Minnesota residents to take up 12 weeks of paid medical leave or 12 weeks of paid family leave in a single year. It sounds compassionate...But what obligation do you have to pay for your neighbor to take 12 weeks off?” — Joe Soucheray (27:10)
  • “This was merely another way of dreaming to take your money when you had no involvement in it.” — Joe Soucheray (28:07)
  • “Each time the legislature gets away with this...it opens the door for them to continue to invent these programs, and they will.” — Joe Soucheray (38:41)

Counterpoints (Kenny as 'Devil’s Advocate'):

• Kenny plays the “bad guy” to question whether people with genuine need (e.g., serious injury) shouldn’t have access to paid leave, but Joe insists these issues were previously handled through employer flexibility and do not justify statewide mandates.
• Quote: “How did people survive before this? Because we survived. Not only did we survive, it was a hell of a better state than it is now.” — Joe Soucheray (36:09)

Fraud & Administrative Bungling (41:44–44:08)

• Listener Shelly, a 30-year veteran daycare provider, writes in detail how other state social programs (like Parent Aware star ratings for daycares) are rife with unchecked self-reporting and fraudulent reimbursements. Her letter demonstrates a broken, “nobody checks” approach to taxpayer money.
• Quote: “...It's all just BS. You can apply, they send you the check, they don't give a bleep what you do with it.” — Joe Soucheray (43:41)

6. Minnesota’s Tax Culture & Government Expansion (44:08–47:17)

• Extended frustration about Minnesota’s high taxes and proliferation of redistributive programs. Joe simultaneously insists not all social services are bad, but the state’s safety net is now overgrown beyond recognition.
• Historical aside on the state’s taxes—income tax established in 1933, sales tax in 1967 (which was supposed to be “temporary”)—and how Minnesota "survived pleasantly" before these expansions.

7. Humorous Asides & Memorable Moments

• Zoning complaint story — “All because some Gladys Kravitz made a phone call.” — (08:56)
• Musings on "elite youth bowling" being held in Minnesota and using the “true” state flag at the event, calling it a “Ray of Hope” (50:34).
• On weather coverage: “I can take the heat. I can’t take the heat AND smoke.” — Joe Soucheray (52:36)
• Segment on Chuck Schumer's inexplicable on-air sound, leading to childish giggling over “gas.” (64:23–65:51)
• Anecdotes about bizarre coincidences, like a family finding their own photo in a random Airbnb (76:31–80:32), which Joe insists is “evidence of aliens,” to much mockery from Kenny and others.

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Important Timestamps

• [06:03] The Power of One Complaint
• [13:38] Weather Records & AC Enabling Bigger Government
• [26:33] Minnesota Paid Family Leave Act Discussion Starts
• [41:44] Listener Letter on Fraud in State Social Programs
• [44:08] Taxes, Social Programs, and State Expansion
• [50:34] “Ray of Hope” — Bowling and State Flag
• [52:36] Wildfire Smoke Advisory and Weather Humor
• [64:23] Chuck Schumer “Gas” Incident

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I’m unaware of any clamoring for this program.” — Joe Soucheray (28:07)
• “People aren’t evil...If Mrs. Kravitz went to her boss...and said, ‘I’m exhausted,’ he’d say, ‘go home.’” — Joe Soucheray (37:01)
• “Does anyone in their right mind think the premiums will decrease?” — Joe Soucheray (33:14)
• “This is the most poorly governed state in the union.” — Joe Soucheray (31:48)
• “We're so overtaxed that they give the money away...to these made up star on your forehead daycare programs. And no one goes out and even checks...” — Joe Soucheray (45:13)

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Closing Thoughts

The hosts’ sense of exasperation with government overreach and bureaucratic expansion is palpable throughout. The Paid Family Leave Act is portrayed not only as government excess but as an emblem of a wider cultural and political malaise—misguided compassion, historical amnesia, and a loss of gumption and trust in the people over the state. The episode, as always, is peppered with Midwest wit, vintage anecdotes, skepticism, and spirited camaraderie.

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Transcript

[Joe Soucheray]

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at 1145 Josh Arnold, investment consultant, brings you Garage Logic podcast number 1810 July 15, 2026. 102 degrees was the record high on this day. That was in 1988 and it was as chilly as 49 degrees at some point on this day in 1912. You know, 1912 never shows up in these records. It was good to see the old year there. 1912 never makes it.

[Matthew Long]

Really missed you.

[Chris Reavers]

1912.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do yourself a favor. Call Josh Arnold at 952-925-5608 for a free 48 minute consultation.

[Chris Reavers]

Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

And now from the mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the Crabby coffee shop, John Height in the newsroom, and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sen, your man Joe Sushere. I want to get to this right away because it comes to us all the way from Vietnam. Charles Manteuffel writes correction from Vietnam. Friendly correction from Vietnam. Longtime listener here. I'm originally from Wisconsin, Minnesota, but I've been living in Vietnam for over seven years. I had to laugh when you compared cargo bikes to Vietnam. But I'd like to offer one friendly correction. Please don't lump Vietnam in with the cargo bike crowd. One of the best parts of life here is the freedom of motorbikes. They're practical, affordable, and honestly, just fun. You can get across town quickly with the breeze in your face instead of sitting in traffic. You of all people should Appreciate that. Every summer you're out running errands on your little moped and you seem to enjoy every minute of it. I do. So if you're looking for a comparison, Vietnam is not cargo bike country. It's motorbike country. And there's a big difference. Love the show. Getting funnier every episode. Keep going, please. I just apologize for that throat thing. Apparently there's a bill in Congress to make Daylight Savings permanent. Yeah. Where are we staff?

[Chris Reavers]

I think this is a terrible idea, to be honest with you. Why?

[Joe Soucheray]

Want to be lighter in the winter?

[Chris Reavers]

Do you realize how late the latest sunset will be here if that gets enacted? 8:52am

[Joe Soucheray]

sun will set it in the morning.

[Chris Reavers]

No, no, no. What did I say?

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought I said sunset.

[Chris Reavers]

I thought I meant sunrise. I'm sorry. Sunrise will be 8:52 in December.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't like that. No, I don't like this. Then never mind.

[Chris Reavers]

I never understood why this is a big deal.

[Kenny Olson]

One comment swayed you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, it did.

[John Height]

That was it.

[Matthew Long]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, where do you guys fall? I don't think it's a big deal.

[Joe Soucheray]

The power of one comment in this country.

[Chris Reavers]

Wasn't even a listener. Ken.

[Joe Soucheray]

This time that's.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what? That is amazing right there. Well, here he never.

[John Height]

Well, he'll change his mind tomorrow after he gets some emails.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, John.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

The power of one comment. Don't tell me I don't have.

[Kenny Olson]

This argument while Joe looks for his paper. Is fun being on the sideline and watching the two sides duke it out.

[John Height]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

I do not. I don't have. What do they say?

[Joe Soucheray]

Something worse in the race.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you. And so it's fun watching the two sides go.

[Chris Reavers]

I never understood why it's a big deal. So what, you adjust the clock?

[Joe Soucheray]

Who gives a damn? I go that way. Or I could go the other way, you know?

[John Height]

Yeah, me too.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know what? I have no opinion.

[Chris Reavers]

No, you have to.

[Joe Soucheray]

I. I don't.

[Chris Reavers]

You're a Talk show host.

[Josh Arnold]

3.

[Joe Soucheray]

Three out of the four of us have no opinion.

[Matthew Long]

Matt.

[Chris Reavers]

What do you think?

[Joe Soucheray]

I found something I don't care about. Well, you could answer with his sidekick in a can.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, you know what?

[Joe Soucheray]

See, you weren't thinking creatively.

[Chris Reavers]

Damn it. Yeah, well, I get ripped for.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, Ask him again.

[Chris Reavers]

Matt, you know what? What do you think about that?

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, boy. Yeah, see, that's.

[Chris Reavers]

Are you kidding me?

[Matthew Long]

No.

[Chris Reavers]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Don't burn them all.

[Matthew Long]

Gotcha.

[Joe Soucheray]

Gotcha. Yeah, he might show up today.

[Matthew Long]

We just have to get back to those old school values.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right.

[John Height]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

The power of one voice always amazes me that one complaint we. We've seen this happen time and again where one complaint fires up some sort of machinery in the bureaucracy. And here's a. Well, this isn't the story. What the hell?

[Chris Reavers]

More on daylight savings.

[Kenny Olson]

We call me now, Joe. Seen that happen right here at Garage Lodge. Thank you. Many times.

[Josh Arnold]

Thank you.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here it is. I found it.

[Kenny Olson]

You'll come in and make a pronouncement how the show is going to change based on one crank email. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Okay. One complaint. A zoning technically is. A zoning technically is being used to lock Americans out of

[Kenny Olson]

wrong sheet.

[Matthew Long]

Oh.

[Joe Soucheray]

Daniel grand is an Orthodox Jew in University Heights, Ohio. His faith calls him to pray with a minyan, a quorum of 10 men, and forbids driving on the Sabbath. This makes attending a distant synagogue impractical. So he invited a dozen neighbors to pray at his house and someone complained days later on January 21, 2021. What the hell's the date of the story? It's dated today. It's just finally coming to court, I guess. Days later on 1-21-20. January 21, 2021, the City of University Heights sent Grant a cease and desist letter. The city told grand he he'd have to have a special use permit to use his home as a place of religious assembly. If he didn't get the permit and continued to host a minyan, he could be cited for code violations and fined. All this while his neighbors were free to host friends over to watch ball games, play poker or socialize. Grand canceled the next prayer meeting and applied for a permit through university height zoning process. Yet that process was hostile. It was Kafkaesque. Grand was heckled at a zoning board meeting with one neighbor voicing fear that the neighborhood would be labeled as da Jews. And that special use permit. Grand learned that if he obtained the required permit, it would change his home to a house of worship under the zoning code. Hey, pal, I'd follow up on that. Maybe he wouldn't have to pay taxes. That meant Gran could pray there, but he couldn't sleep there since it would no longer be considered a residence. Grand abandoned the permit process and instead filed a civil rights lawsuit to protect the First Amendment right to pray in his own house. When sued under the First Amendment in the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act. I didn't know we had that. The courts never reached the merits. A unanimous sixth court panel threw the case out as unripe. That's a really weird way to put it. Because grand withdrew his permit application, a final decision had not been reached. And under the 1985 Takings case, Williams County Planning vs Hamilton Bank, a land use claim isn't ripe until government officials reach a final decision through the prescribed administrative process. The sixth court took a rule about property takings and used it to shut the courthouse door door on the first amendment claim. All because of some. Gladys Kravitz made a phone call. What could possibly anger a neighbor about that? I just don't understand.

[Kenny Olson]

But she hates Jews.

[Chris Reavers]

That's what I was just going to say. It's the religion aspect or what religion affiliation.

[Joe Soucheray]

And maybe they went in with the hats on and the whole deal, so they were unmistakably there to worship.

[Kenny Olson]

I bet that neighbor doesn't complain about the Lutheran that has Wednesday night Bible study in their home every week.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's your house, though. I thought you were sacred in your own cast.

[Chris Reavers]

You'd think so.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, you know the only mistake he made was being truthful. That's the only mistake he made. If he would have lied about this, everything would have been fine.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, he could have. We weren't praying. We were playing cards.

[Kenny Olson]

Honesty doesn't pay in the United States anymore.

[Joe Soucheray]

We saw it here. We saw the Gladys Kravitzes and the Karens and the snitches here. When walls closed down the stage for Covid, people were squealing on each other.

[Chris Reavers]

They had a snitch line.

[Joe Soucheray]

They had a snitch line.

[Matthew Long]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I. My sentiments are with this guy. It's your house. If 10 guys showed up across the street and started praying, I just can't imagine I'd give a bleep. What do I care?

[Kenny Olson]

If this happened in 2021 and it's now being decided in 2026, isn't that in itself a ray of hope? Maybe the court's dragging their feet on purpose.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, but in the meantime, he couldn't do anything.

[Kenny Olson]

I would do the opposite. I would have that prayer meeting in my garage with the door open and all the acute drama that goes along with it.

[Chris Reavers]

Actually, what this guy should have done is just said, oh, we're. We're praying to Allah. These are my Muslim brothers and sisters.

[Joe Soucheray]

So much to discuss.

[Chris Reavers]

He could have got away with it.

[Joe Soucheray]

So much to discuss today. So much. Back to cargo bikes. See, I linked it to, though. Because, see, one. One voice of complaint is all you need in this country. Why doesn't that work? On behalf of G lers, we complain mightily about Democratic socialists of America and nothing Happens off site. Correspondent frequent contributor Downing notes the cargo bikers like the no car crowd do seem to have and I think he's nailing a few things here do seem to have a very geographically limited lifestyle. And I think I know the reason why many of these people are not from around here. Several years back I read a story about people who were living without cars. There was the example of a young couple who lived with their kids in the Midway part of St. Paul. They were able to get where they needed to go within the city without a car. And once a year they rented a car to go out of state to visit family for Christmas. Believe it or not, I think I remember that story. They didn't have any family to visit locally. They had chosen to live conveniently close to the job that brought them to the state. They didn't have anywhere else to go, so they got by without a car. But those of us whose families have been in the state for generations have places to go. We regularly make day trips to visit dispersed family. We may have put down residential routes in one community, but careers have taken us to jobs farther away. Having a car is a necessity. I think that's a very good explanation. There's a lot of people who might move here. They don't. They just know the people in their neighborhood.

[Kenny Olson]

What a pain in the ass. The couple you referenced living on the Midway.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why are they a pain in the ass? Can I get a ride?

[Kenny Olson]

I gotta go down to the doctor or.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, no, you don't know that they take their bikes.

[Kenny Olson]

Can you bring me down to Burnsville Center? They're having a special on slippers. It's just one thing after another where they burden their friends and family with this nonsense. Get a car.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm very Downing also notes some interesting news about the 1920s heat wave we faced here. He said, I thought you might have mentioned that July 14, 1936 was the hottest day on record in St. Paul. Yesterday's high temp record was 108 in 1936. The Pioneer Press the other day reported that 200 people, 240 people in St. Paul died from a two week heat wave back in 1936. Questions? If what the climate alarmists tell us is true, why have we not had a hotter day in the 90 years since then? Isn't that a great point? And why aren't hundreds of people dying this week in St. Paul? Could it be because of the air conditioning that the climate alarmists say is heating up the earth and killing us? Now there's irony of course it's air conditioning. No one has to die in this. In the year 2026 in St. Paul or Minneapolis, on July 14, 1936, record breaking heat killed 51 people in St. Paul as the temperature reached 108. It was still. It's still the city's hottest day on record. It was the peak of a two week heat wave that claimed as many as 240 lives in St. Paul alone before it subsided. The death toll statewide was 900.

[Kenny Olson]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Holy wow. And the headlines, downing included the pictures of the headlines was like today. The entire nation was in a heat wave in 1936 on exactly this day. It's similar today. And yet no temperature has exceeded 108 degrees in the Twin Cities since 1936.

[Kenny Olson]

I have an interesting aside. I thought maybe that you were going to talk about a Star Tribune piece called Minnesota's wildlife season is changing. The Boundary Waters fires show how. And when I saw that headline, I immediately searched for the largest forest fires in Minnesota history. Found some interesting facts there. That's not where I want to go. One of the websites I went to, you guys are going to love this. Reprinted a headline in the Minneapolis Tribune from 1894. I think the writing back then, and you guys reference this all the time. The headline, a cyclone of wind and fire, northern Minnesota and Wisconsin bathed in a sea of flame and hundreds of human lives are sacrificed to the insatiable greed of the red demon as he stalks through the pine forest on his mission of death.

[Chris Reavers]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

That's some writing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. That's amazing.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. Anyway, this interesting. I have the 10, the 12 largest forest fires in Minnesota history. Everybody knows what the first one is, right, hinckley? Yeah. In 1894. Killed 418 people. Did you know about the 1918 Cloquet Moose Lake fire? If I did, it was vaguely.250,000 acres, killed 452 people and destroyed 10 towns. It was caused by drought and of course, sparks from a train.

[Joe Soucheray]

Wow. Yeah, the current. How do I say this? The current. Keepers of news. The people who are telling us, for example, that this heat wave is unprecedented. Be sure to drink a lot of water and be careful. One, we're all. We all should be terribly grateful that we have air conditioning. It's a lifesaver. Number two, have we become so selfish that it's only today that exists in people's mind? And if today is uncomfortable or prisoner of the moment. Yeah. If today is uncomfortable or inconvenient or somehow disrupting to your life, you. You project onto that the belief that there's major catastrophe. There must be something wrong with the world. I know that the kids in the failed academy I'm very confident in saying they really don't study much history. And in this state I predict or I suspect they really don't study much Minnesota history.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

And so they have no context to understand any of this. I'm old enough to remember these were looked forward to summer days. They were great. And we always knew the end was in sight. And the next thing you know it was Christmas and it was cold. But the. The cycle of nature is unknown to the modern 30 year old or 25 year old, if not unknown, unappreciated, not understood.

[Kenny Olson]

What I don't what frustrates me the most about that the context in which you're talking about is the lack of curiosity.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, it's just amazing.

[Kenny Olson]

Where is the curiosity?

[Joe Soucheray]

Good lord. That's why we started doing the since winds to try to help you poor failed academy kids.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what's so great about the Internet. Like this morning I got curious. I found the answers I was looking for. It's a great source for understanding how we got here.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I did during the. When the European heat wave was new. New enough to. To have the news gatherers hector us about it. I did the sense when I looked up a bunch of Europe stuff I didn't even bother bringing in because it's all old and it's just pred. That proves your point. They've been through these temperatures before and they will again. And you know, if you look on the bright side, we have air conditioning and water, which I blame by the way for the expansion of the federal government because Congress never met in the summers. It was gone. They weren't causing any problems for the American citizens. They left town to go home. Then some moron came up with air conditioning and the next thing you knew, the foggy bottom, the swamp was tolerable in the summer. So they started working there in the summer.

[Chris Reavers]

So get rid of air conditioning.

[Joe Soucheray]

I wish we didn't have air conditioning.

[Kenny Olson]

You and I are of two different minds on that. I wish the Minnesota session would go at least another two months.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why?

[Kenny Olson]

Because I felt like we didn't get anything accomplished. And you of course are the complete opposite. Shorter the better, don't get as accomplished.

[Joe Soucheray]

Shorter the better. Don't do anything. Leave us alone.

[Kenny Olson]

You're probably right, but it was frustrating to me. This year.

[Joe Soucheray]

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and do not constitute investment advice. Chris Reavers is a paid endorser. Here's a man who spends hours in hardware stores sifting through the nuts and bolts of life.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe Suzeray Brian gets it. He writes, hey Kenny, I was doing some yard work over the weekend. Noticed both my mower and blower not running smoot smoothly. Didn't take me long to realize I forgot to give them a good dose of seafoam this spring. After putting some seafoam in and running running it for a little bit, both of them started purring and running great. This stuff works really good. After wrapping up the yard work, the next item on the list was to take apart a mailbox that had to be taken out for some street repairs going on in the neighborhood. The mailbox was original, went up in 1970, so the bolts holding it together were extremely difficult to get loose as I was banging away. Couldn't help but think about how much easier this would have been with some deep creep to help loosen the bolts. I'll be grabbing a can on my next visit to the knack hardware store. Just wanted to share. Brian, I feel your pain. I empathize and I know what you're going through. Nothing worse than needing seafoam, deep creep and not having it. But then on the flip side, nothing better than needing motor treatment and going right to the chem cab and grabbing a jug. It's available in a store near you or if you prefer, go to the seafoam Amazon store. A wonderful product in a world gone Awry seafoam and thank you, Brian.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yes, I like short legislative sessions because it limits the time they can dream up ways to take our money.

[Kenny Olson]

I just wanted more definitive results on the fraud thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

The controversial Minnesota paid leave program. Let me stop right there. It's only controversial to the hundreds of thousands of Minnesotans who didn't want it in the first place, who didn't find it something that was urgent on their list of priorities in the state. It wasn't controversial to the Democrats who dreamed it up. It's already paid out $600 million of our money in benefits in six months. That's 1.2 billion over the course of a year.

[Chris Reavers]

So, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You mean this is going to come in over what they originally budgeted? I'll say I'm stunned.

[Joe Soucheray]

It was created in 2023 by Tim Walls and Democrats. The program allows Minnesota residents to take up 12 weeks of paid medical leave or 12 weeks of paid family leave in a single year. It sounds compassionate. It sounds. It plays well instantaneously off the top of your head. But when you break it down and analyze it, what obligation do you have to pay for your neighbor to take 12 weeks off?

[Chris Reavers]

You don't have one.

[Joe Soucheray]

If a person wants to take a combination, how did we get to 2023 without this act? How did we make it in America without this act?

[Kenny Olson]

You know, I don't think anybody ever asked that question. That's a really good point.

[Joe Soucheray]

This. This was merely another way of dreaming to take your money when you had no involvement in it. I'm unaware of any clamoring for this program.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe, here's the other thing. Mike and I talked about this on our show yesterday. In his company, they offer a program much like Hubbard does. Hubbard already had one like this for employees.

[Joe Soucheray]

Probably 90% of all companies in Minnesota are compassionate.

[Chris Reavers]

And Mike said in his company, to his knowledge, he is unaware of a single employee taking advantage of this particular program. Meaning he's lucky, but meaning the vast majority of the people that are taking advantage of this simply jumped at it right away once it became available. There's probably a good chance that there's not even a family emergency.

[Joe Soucheray]

If a person wants to take a combination of medical leave and family leave, they can receive paid leave benefits for up to 20 weeks. Paid leave recipients typically receive between 55% and 90% of their regular wages or the maximum weekly amount of $1,423. The program is funded via a 0.88% payroll tax that is evenly split between employers and employees. It was demanded of us. It was mandated. Employees and employers never had a say in this. If an employer wants to pay the entire 0.88% tax, they can elect to do so. Small employers with 30 or 4, 30 or fewer employers pay 0.66 payroll tax. That is also divided. Minnesota Paid leave was passed despite strong objections from the state's business community, which warned that the program would crush small businesses. The program officially became operational in January of this year, January 2026. It's just a bad. It's just bad juju. The state's business community is telling the people supposedly representing them, we don't want anything to do with this. This is a bad idea. They ignored the business community. They ignored us. They're taking this money from us, and they're redistributing it to people who are not working. Since Minnesota Paid Leave began operating, the program has been criticized for delay delays, and some have expressed concerns that the program could become a new vector for fraud. Further, the state has refused to say whether illegal aliens can receive paid leave. Well, that means then they can. If they're refusing to tell us, that means, of course they can get paid leave. Earlier this month, the Department of Employment and Economic Development, the acronym is DEED, announced that nearly 600 million of paid leave benefits were issued to 75,000 recipients in the first six months. The average benefit was $1,083 a week. According to DEED, the legislature established a $688 million trust fund in 2023 to help cover the launch of the program. I would suspect that was for one year. They've used half. They've used all of that already in the first half of this year. So not only did they force this on you, they knew perfectly well they weren't setting aside enough money and they'll come back and demand more. This is the most poorly governed state in the union. Additionally, DEED announced it collected 344 million in premiums in quarter one this year and expected to collect a similar amount in quarter two. Well, so 344 and 344 is the 688 million you've already spent in six months. Premiums is a euphemism. It's how the state refers to the payroll taxes that fund paid leave. Those are premiums.

[Matthew Long]

Premiums.

[Joe Soucheray]

Those aren't payroll taxes. This all easily covers the 598 million benefits paid for the first two quarters, Deed told Alpha News. However, the 0.88% payroll tax that funds the program could increase next year based on the result of a study that will be released by the end of the month or could decrease according to state law, DEED must contract with an independent actuarial consultant every year to conduct an actuarial study of the pay leave program. In turn, the deed commissioner must adjust the premium rates for 2027 based on that study. Does anyone in their right mind think the premiums will decrease?

[Matthew Long]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

We will learn whether changes will be made to paid leave premiums for 2027 by the end of this month, a DEED spokesperson told Alpha News. In short, this means Minnesotans could see a paid leave tax increase if the program requires more money. According to Minnesota state law, the annual premium rate cannot exceed 1.1%. Well, it can't exceed 1.1% until they legislatively abolish that and say we can go up to 6%, 10%.

[Kenny Olson]

So that that tax increase is something they vote on then, right? It doesn't automatically just happen.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, no, no, no. There's. There's no vote on anything that I'm aware of.

[Kenny Olson]

Just kicks in.

[Joe Soucheray]

It just. Those are premiums, Ken. They're not tax increases as premium. I'm convinced that the ideological root of this is the mystery that the Democrats and walls insisting on this find work disagreeable and unfair because it's oppressive.

[Kenny Olson]

I need to step in for a second and play the bad guy.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

And this just occurred to me. Chris Reivers just fell down, broke both legs, both arms. There's no way he can get to work in the next two months. Shouldn't he be eligible?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, how did. How did Chris reavers survive in 2020 when he fell down and broke both arms?

[Kenny Olson]

He didn't do it in 2020. He just did it yesterday.

[John Height]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, he just did it in 2020. What happened? He had no family leave program to call on. His employer made adjustments.

[Kenny Olson]

He fell out of a cab yesterday. He broke both. All four limbs.

[Matthew Long]

Wow.

[Kenny Olson]

And he scratched his forehead.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you're. You're missing the larger point.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I'm getting it. I'm just trying to get an answer out of you.

[Joe Soucheray]

There is no answer. Because the answer is that we existed until 2026 without this program.

[Kenny Olson]

If you're a man and your wife just had a baby and you're requesting leave, we should be. Somebody should punch you right in the throat, and then we'll get you a check. First you have to take a throat punch, then you get a check.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well.

[Kenny Olson]

Or you have to wear Crocs for the rest.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, see, now you're contradicting yourself.

[Kenny Olson]

No, I, I, I, I had to ask that question. Just.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, the question is, is an obvious answer. Yeah. There's now a program for people who fall out of cabs.

[Chris Reavers]

Where was that eight years ago?

[Matthew Long]

Dang it.

[Joe Soucheray]

That isn't the point. That program was not asked for. It was not needed. The public and business in Minnesota did not call for it.

[Kenny Olson]

I think I got my answer.

[Joe Soucheray]

How did people survive before this? Because we survived. Not only did we survive, it was a hell of a better state than it is now.

[Kenny Olson]

But they're claiming, and I know I sound like I'm on their team.

[Joe Soucheray]

You sound like you are.

[Kenny Olson]

I know it sounds that way.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's fine with me. Be on their team. The kind of guy they fashioned this program for.

[Kenny Olson]

I am an actor now. I forgot where I was.

[Joe Soucheray]

What the hell is an actor? Oh, an actor.

[Kenny Olson]

I forgot where I was going. Never mind. You snatched it off.

[Joe Soucheray]

The foundings of this ideologically are the belief that work is brought to you by evil corporations. And it's unfair that you have to toil in their oppressive environment. And therefore we're creating a program where you could leave for virtually any damn reason you come up with.

[Kenny Olson]

So basically, we're arguing. I finally remembered. We're arguing about the need for this.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I suggest there isn't one.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, These people are saying there definitely is a need. Chris with no arms and no legs needs six weeks.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, and he would have gotten it somehow without the state creating this program. He would have gotten the help he needed. We're not an evil people. That's another thing, ideologically that's at the bow of this is that people are evil and they're gonna punish people and make them work in a sweatshop, and people aren't evil. If Mrs. Kravitz went to her boss at the Acme Nut and Bolt Company and said, mike, I'm eight months pregnant. I'm exhausted, he'd say, go home for a days. Don't worry about it. Who are you kidding? People are not evil.

[Kenny Olson]

What if Ms. Kravitz didn't have a job and she was also missing a left leg?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, then she wouldn't apply. She couldn't apply for this leave because she has no job.

[Matthew Long]

Don't give him any ideas. They might just find a program.

[Chris Reavers]

Maybe this will help answer both of your questions. I know a guy who is in charge of staffing, Ken, for a very large production facility here in the Twin Cities. And I asked him about this program and he said within weeks he had 15% of his staff apply for this program and he's convinced not one of them. One guy said he's gotta take care of his dad, who he found out later has been dead for two years.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, here's the problem.

[Chris Reavers]

Point being, there are many, many people just taking advantage of this.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's the problem. And we can move on. Here's the problem. Each time the legislature gets away with this, the creation of a new way to take money from one person and give it to another, it opens the door for them to continue to invent these programs and they will.

[Kenny Olson]

Now, again, I don't disagree with you at all, but it sounds like that you think that they only did this to raise your taxes.

[Chris Reavers]

Kenny Walls.

[Joe Soucheray]

They only did this because they have a deep belief in their right to take your money and use it the way they see. That's what the belief is.

[Kenny Olson]

And it has nothing to do with trying to help people like they claim.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. No people in this state get helped. It's all been fraudulent. No people in this state get helped. Oh, you don't believe me? Let me read you something, Joe.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm actually really. I'm getting sick of playing the bad guy here.

[Josh Arnold]

I know.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think you should stop.

[Kenny Olson]

I give up. I can't do it. It's disingenuous.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail the flashlight King. Since I've been in the business for 30 years, I thought I would give you guys. Regarding the Great Start daycare grants. Walz did create the Great Start Compensation support grants in 2023. That's the same year he dreamed up this BS with the family leave. Every month, licensed providers can apply for compensation to offset the cost of their childcare expenses. The money you receive is calculated by stating how many people work for you and the total number of hours worked in the previous month. For examp, I work alone, so I state one employee and then the total number of hours. I work solely with children, let's say at 10 hours a day, 20 days last month, which is 200 hours, don't hurt your head. That then gets calculated to another number with their system and then I'm awarded that at the end of each month. You have to reapply every month since your employees and hours should be different. You are supposed to use the funds for your business, but no one checks. That's not all. I'm not sure how many of your listeners have seen star rated child cares. If a provider goes through a series of worksheets and submits answers to all sorts of developmental education practices that they state they do, they receive a stipend I have successfully had three stars for the last six to eight years. You can apply for this every two years. In turn, I was awarded 3500 bucks every other year towards anything I wanted to use for my business. Here's the deal. Nobody checked. You could send in fake receipts of work done items purchased and be reimbursed. No one checks to see if you are doing what you say you are doing or checks to see if you actually purchased what you say you purchased. They just send you the money. If you work towards four stars, you can receive up to four grand towards your business without anyone checking anything. This star rated program is through a company called Parent Aware, a non profit organization. The initiative was created by the Minnesota Early Learning foundation, another non profit. It began by investing 20 million in private funding to pilot test the Early Learning scholarships and Parent aware ratings between 2006 and 2011. The Minnesota Department of Children, Youth and Families later adopted the program and it is now funded by state grants which means Minnesota taxpayer funded. I think the issue with all these programs is that nothing is ever checked. It's like no one cares if you apply. You get it. P.S. i went over to the halftime rec last night to play bingo and noticed a mall learning center. First steps to success right across the street. The windows are covered so no one can see in and it's hours state 12pm to 9pm I was there at 6:15pm the building was dark. It appeared closed on a Tuesday afternoon. The doors were locked. Maybe the staff is on vacation. Kenny, maybe you can get Jay Coles to go over there and check it out. Have a great day and keep fighting the good fights. Sincerely, Shelly Harrington Gumption County's daycare Later. Soon to be retired the day before the great Minnesota Get Together 2026. Because frankly, I just can't take it anymore. Thank you Shelly.

[Kenny Olson]

I don't know how any of those daycare ladies that work out of their own homes, how they can take it at all. Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's a very presumably honest woman who's been doing this for 30 years. She's telling you how it works and she's telling you that it's all bs. It's all just bs. You can apply, they send you the check, they don't give a bleep what you do with it. And again, that's taking our money and redistributing it to other people.

[Kenny Olson]

How much do you think you'd save in your yearly taxes if you if we were able to get rid of all of the social service type well, related tax.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm not a fan of getting rid of all social services. There are important social services, but we've expanded them beyond recognition.

[Kenny Olson]

Let me reframe that. Would it be noticeable?

[Joe Soucheray]

Hell yes. God, yes. All right. Think of the money. It's a pot.

[Kenny Olson]

Don't get frustrated. Remember, I use my federal return to pay my state tax. Okay, So I hate it too.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's a certainty that we are so significantly overtaxed because that's what allows them to keep creating the programs. Yeah, we keep handing them more and more of our money. They secure their power on the third rail by indebting themselves to constituents who thank them for giving them the money.

[Matthew Long]

Where is all this money?

[Joe Soucheray]

We're over taxed. We are seriously overtaxed in this state. Otherwise you wouldn't have these problems. We're so overtaxed that they give the money away, in this case to these made up star on your forehead daycare programs. And no one goes out and even checks if the money's being used for what the daycare said it was. Now she's fed up at the end of the day, goes to the Legion to play bingo and have a few bumps and notices. Across the street, the Amal Daycare center that's locked up tighter than a drum even though it's supposed to be open till 9pm Ain't nobody there.

[Chris Reavers]

They here at night.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, they weren't.

[Kenny Olson]

How did this state survive before they started collecting taxes?

[Matthew Long]

That was the question earlier.

[Joe Soucheray]

How did this state survive at all? This state not only survived. Do I have to remind you, you'll go back to the 70s. There's Wendy Anderson standing on a dock holding up that decaying northern and they're saying Minnesota, the state that works. That was before all we had. All this BS.

[Kenny Olson]

We started collecting individual and corporate income taxes in 1933. And then later offset to a shift in property tax collections and the state introduced its general sales tax in 67.

[Joe Soucheray]

That was supposed to be temporary, by the way. That was supposed to. That was supposed to be temporary.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. How did we survive before 33? How did we survive before 67?

[Joe Soucheray]

Pleasantly.

[Kenny Olson]

Why has it grown?

[Joe Soucheray]

Because the American every year. Because the American experience requires you to pursue your own life and happiness. It does not require the government to provide it for you. That's how we survived. And now what we do, we're inventing people who know nothing except dependency on you and me providing enough tax money to take care of them.

[Kenny Olson]

I had no idea you were going to be this good today.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Matthew Long]

Let's go.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Joe Soucheray]

I started Ornada in 2013 and we make bike apparel.

[Kenny Olson]

The best part of Shopify for me

[Joe Soucheray]

is our ability to run the business. This as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end and sell things online easily.

[Kenny Olson]

If Shopify were a bike accessory I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify.

[Joe Soucheray]

Start your free trial on shopify.com have you. You cannot stop him. He'll just make a move.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe Sugiray make a move to Harmony Minnesota. Down there in Southern Minnesot. It's a beautiful time of the year to visit Larry and Damon and the entire crew down at that tasting room. And don't forget by the way, stop in on the weekend, you know, ride the bike down, do whatever, I don't care. Just stop in and say hi and they have that wonderful rotating menu of craft cocktails in the tasting room. And as long as you're at the tasting room you can stock up on those wonderful four packs. I keep mentioning that I'm a huge fan of the BlackBerry lemonade but they have wonderful pre made cocktails too that feature gin, vodka, whiskey. It's a wonderful stop. And also by the way, don't forget to order your stuff online and have it sent right to your front door. Just go to harmonyspirits.net and click the Buy Online tab and you can have it sent right to your door. Send it as a gift, do whatever, it doesn't matter. It's wonderful stuff. And please continue to go into your local liquor store and please continue to ask for the Harmony brand by name. That is truly how you're going to help our friends grow and continue to expand harmonyspirits.net, stop it on their Facebook page as well to see upcoming events and let them know you heard about them here on the Garage Logic podcast.

[Joe Soucheray]

Before we get to John, I have this. No Where's Ray of Hope?

[Chris Reavers]

I got it right here.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, hit it. Hit the rails. My kids compete in there's two Rays of Hope here. My kids compete in an elite national bowling tournament called Junior Gold every year. This year for the first time, Minnesota is hosting. Sunday was opening ceremony at the Vikings practice stadium. As we watched each state's athletes do a walk across the stage, the adults in our group were all talking about what state flag they were going to use to represent Minnesota. We were both surprised and pleased to see that they used the original state flag, that true flag. Nice to know our bowling community hasn't gone crazy. Nicole well, there's two rays of hope there. I didn't know kids were involved in elite bowling and they fly the true flag.

[Matthew Long]

I didn't know elite bowling was a thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John Haidt.

[John Height]

Thank you Joe. This news brought to you by North American Banking Company Much of the state under an air quality alert as wildfires continue burning in northern Minnesota and temps reach dangerous levels. Thick smoke has settled over the Arrowhood Head region as large wildfires and extreme heat exacerbate.

[Joe Soucheray]

Love that word.

[John Height]

Conditions. According to the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, heavy smoke is expected to spread from northern Minnesota across central parts of the state before it passes through the Twin Cities continues to southern Minnesota. Authorities say the onset of a smoke will be rapid, adding that additional rounds of heavy smoke are possible tomorrow into Friday morning conditions expected to become hazardous for everyone. Authorities say people in northern Minnesota should avoid going outside at all. The wildfires not only generate huge plumes of smoke smoke, but also tiny particles, a microscopic mix of ash, soot, trace minerals and charred plant matter. And when you inhale that, it goes straight to the lungs.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, this is terrible.

[John Height]

Yeah, it's not good.

[Joe Soucheray]

John. I can take the heat. I can't take the heat and smoke. I'm going to be pretty disappointed in the smoke.

[John Height]

Dr. Nita Gupta at Children's Hospital, a pediatric ER doctor, says the air is especially a problem for, for children, says kids can be especially vulnerable because their bodies are still growing and lungs are still in the development stage.

[Joe Soucheray]

When is this smoke hitting us?

[John Height]

This afternoon. It's supposed to move in, is the way I'm understanding.

[Chris Reavers]

As an asthmatic, I'd say it already

[Joe Soucheray]

is here because this morning's been tough.

[Chris Reavers]

Chris, I, I'm, I'm looking for it. We lost a bunch of audio in the last month. I don't know if we had it timed out on a certain day.

[Joe Soucheray]

Maybe a power outage?

[Chris Reavers]

No, I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm just guessing.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, I mentioned this Star Tribune story earlier in the, on in the show. It has everything that you've been talking about. They go as far back as 30 years ago and everything is horrible and it's getting worse. Today is way worse than yesterday. I'm talking about earlier. And then in terms of reporting, in terms of the younger generation, not interested in history, even the Star Tribune, they went back as far as 30.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a long time, isn't it?

[Kenny Olson]

That's a long time. Star Tribune, 1896.

[John Height]

I went back in my newspapers.com and when you guys were blabbing on and you know, I was reading newspapers, that's

[Chris Reavers]

all we were doing.

[John Height]

John, what'd you find from 1936? There was a great kicker about the heat in 1936. A woman who lived, I believe is on 4th Avenue south went in her backyard to sleep. Sleep because it was so hot. And her neighbor pulled out of the garage and backed over her in her backyard. She was not hurt. She was not hurt.

[Joe Soucheray]

But the kicker, how was she not hurt? The kicker, how come he backed out of his garage and ran over her?

[John Height]

That is not addressed in the thing.

[Kenny Olson]

I bet they shared a driveway.

[John Height]

Yeah. And all it said was the headline was she wasn't sure if it was the heat or the getting run over. And that was the headline.

[Joe Soucheray]

And then the story. Holy cow.

[Chris Reavers]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, we had a great old time, didn't we?

[Kenny Olson]

My ancestors say that the hired help wouldn't sleep in the attic during heat waves. They'd go sleep out in the barn.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh yeah. Slept in the park.

[John Height]

Right on the every heat wave I look up for. Joe, there's tons of people sleeping by lakes in Minneapolis. Just leave their homes, go sleep in Lakes.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, in the 80s, I called that passing out.

[John Height]

President Trump has endorsed my pillow. Founder Mike Lindell from Minnesota, golf governor.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, my God in heaven. Now that he has endorsed Lindell, can Qualls and Danmuth take advantage of that? I wonder in this state, Trump ain't gonna work for you. That's not gonna work to get a vote in this state.

[Chris Reavers]

But when Governor Lindell a year from now gets rid of the Paid Family Leave act, will you be okay with that endorsement from the president?

[Kenny Olson]

Governor Lindell know the first thing about governing?

[Joe Soucheray]

No. I mean, he barely knows anything about a pillow.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you. You just gave the punchline with no setup.

[Chris Reavers]

Hey, I got a question for Joe. Remember when you had soon to be president or Governor Lindell on the show a couple of years ago? Why didn't you ask him about that?

[Matthew Long]

Remember when you were buds?

[Joe Soucheray]

I sold a lot of pillows for that. You guys hung out together.

[John Height]

I think, Chris, you might have been seen in the future, huh? After his run as governor. Know President.

[Matthew Long]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Why stop there?

[Matthew Long]

If he does get elected and he goes through the airport, he's not again in the standard line. He came through the standard line several months ago.

[Kenny Olson]

That's kind of sad.

[Joe Soucheray]

I felt really keep him there. I felt really bad.

[Chris Reavers]

Who cares? Is that a big deal to be

[Matthew Long]

in the standard line as a politician?

[Joe Soucheray]

He's not a politician.

[Matthew Long]

Not yet.

[Chris Reavers]

Not yet.

[Kenny Olson]

He's going to be governor.

[Matthew Long]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

He's working out of a house trailer, isn't he?

[Kenny Olson]

He doesn't stand a chance.

[John Height]

Joe Lindell established his national profile from his TV advertising campaign as the MyPillow Guy and has been one of President Trump's most outspoken supporters. Echoing the president's false claims that his 2020 election defeat to Democrat Joe Biden was fraudulent, Lindell is part of a crowded Republican field that competes in the Aug. 11 primary. GOP list includes state House Speaker Lisa Damith. Lindell has attacked Damuth as responsible for federal SPE fraud. Damith has blamed the Democratic administration. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jesse Ventura was a. An Oxford graduated statesman compared to Mike, a Rhodes scholar, a brilliant statesman. Jesse, I wish you'd come back.

[Matthew Long]

Joe.

[Kenny Olson]

Can I. Can I put on my acting hat again?

[Chris Reavers]

Acting?

[Matthew Long]

I thought you were an actor.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm an actor. Hi, Joe, it's Mike Lindell here. Glad to meet you. Thanks for selling all those pillows. Why do you not like me as your next governor?

[Matthew Long]

What?

[Joe Soucheray]

You were part of the cabal that tried to dream up the phony voting machine story.

[Kenny Olson]

Anything else in the you Got anything else? Just that.

[Joe Soucheray]

Plus, I think. I think your own business suffered a little because of that.

[Kenny Olson]

Anything else, Joe? That's it. All off your chest?

[Joe Soucheray]

That's it.

[Chris Reavers]

I have a question for soon to be Governor Lyndall. What will be your first course of action when you take office here in St. Paul?

[Kenny Olson]

I am going to get rid of mail in voting.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay. Sure you will.

[Kenny Olson]

What do you say to that, Joe?

[Matthew Long]

Okay, Mikey.

[John Height]

Okay, Mikey.

[Joe Soucheray]

Come on, Joe.

[Kenny Olson]

Give me a comeback.

[John Height]

The other Republican person in the primary, Kendall Quals. Of course, whoever pulls out of that, comes out of that. Runs against longtime U.S. senator Amy Klobuchar, who heads the Democratic.

[Joe Soucheray]

How you doing, rook?

[Matthew Long]

I'm doing all right.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, on Klobuchar.

[Chris Reavers]

One day closer.

[Matthew Long]

We are one day closer.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is she not going to show up on this show? She's going to.

[Matthew Long]

She's going to show up on this show.

[Chris Reavers]

I. I guarantee this is not a slight to you in any way, rookie, as I know what you're up against. I will bet any amount of money she will not join the show before the election. You think so?

[Matthew Long]

Before Jason, whatever his name from the city council.

[Chris Reavers]

What's the Jason Chavez worship?

[Matthew Long]

As she will. She will. I. I will guarantee that she'll be on this.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe, If. If you don't mind, I have another question for soon.

[Joe Soucheray]

I do mind. I do mind.

[Chris Reavers]

Will he have a UFC fight at the same capital? What? Will he have a UFC fight at

[Matthew Long]

the residence on Summit? Right in the backyard. It'll be a smaller scale, but be

[Kenny Olson]

one of those where the ring is actually on the ground. Right?

[Matthew Long]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Matthew Long]

Entry level. Wrestling or fighting.

[Chris Reavers]

My pillow girls out there in the forest head.

[John Height]

For the fourth time in two to three years, the St. Paul Parks Conservancy says new saplings on Shepherd Road have been vandalized. Ten trees recently destroyed. On July 4, St. Paul Park's Conservancy president said. We are mystified as to why the new saplings on this stretch of road have been repeatedly vandalized. They've been dug up and trunks broken in half. In two other incidents, around 90 trees total were uprooted, thrown in the river or cut at their base. Last fall, donations from community, community members and a gift from the conservancy created a five thousand dollar reward for anyone who has information leading to an arrest. Now, in this latest one, anyone with information is asked to contact the St. Paul Police Department.

[Joe Soucheray]

How feral do you have to be to take it out on a tree?

[Kenny Olson]

I wanted to research this further. John, do you know the area of Old Shep, where this is happening.

[John Height]

I don't. I don't have an address.

[Matthew Long]

No. Wouldn't they have cameras?

[Joe Soucheray]

I. I know Shepherd Road very well. I don't know where they're. I didn't read the story.

[John Height]

It looked like. From the pictures I saw, it was more. Is there any sort of walking trail along there?

[Joe Soucheray]

It looked like it was by Crosby. No, no. It would be downtown area.

[Matthew Long]

Closer to Randolph.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. No, no, downtown, Matt. Downtown. Pass down past Jackson Street. Going. Going east.

[Matthew Long]

So past Randolph.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Why don't we take a break here and Rook, you stop thinking about that for now and tell us about something else.

[Matthew Long]

Speaking of Randolph. That has nothing to do with. I'm about to talk to you about.

[Chris Reavers]

Speaking of pests.

[Matthew Long]

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[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want the mice to come. I don't like that they're coming.

[Matthew Long]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Ready?

[Kenny Olson]

Yep.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who's doing something? The earth is not your mother. The Joe Sugiray Show.

[Chris Reavers]

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[John Height]

Thanks, Chris. A lot of national international news. But before we go there, I think we have some breaking news involving Chuck Schumer.

[Chris Reavers]

Yes. He was giving a speech on the Senate Senate floor. And I have a 12 second piece of audio from that.

[Joe Soucheray]

And we need a complete investigation that's independent. Now on Iran and the ndaa, when all the Trump administration. You know that's a very low tonal call.

[Kenny Olson]

You should look up. You should look up. What a buck snort sounds like that sounds like a deer.

[Chris Reavers]

Oh, you're right.

[Matthew Long]

Push, push.

[Chris Reavers]

One more squeeze.

[Kenny Olson]

Squeaker.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you notice the, do you notice the irony in said gas. Listen again. Yeah, notice the irony.

[Joe Soucheray]

And we need a complete investigation that's independent. Now on Iran and the ndaa, when

[Kenny Olson]

all the Trump administration that's so perfectly placed.

[Chris Reavers]

He gets so worked up about Trump

[John Height]

that causes him to, he does, he does start giggling, right? I don't, you know, he makes it sound like he's giggling about President Trump but he's, I think he's giggling about what just happened.

[Chris Reavers]

Do you just get to a certain age where he just can't really.

[Matthew Long]

When you're old, you just plow and

[Chris Reavers]

you plow right through.

[Matthew Long]

You don't even acknowledge it. You just keep going.

[Chris Reavers]

No, no, one more time.

[John Height]

No, let it play through.

[Joe Soucheray]

Complete investigation. That's independ. Now on Iran and the ndaa when all the Trump administration and we need.

[John Height]

Oh that's all it's got. That's too bad because it goes like that, kind of in the middle.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, let's move your stomach Growling.

[Matthew Long]

You know what?

[Joe Soucheray]

You're probably right.

[Matthew Long]

I don't think so.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think Chuck would do that.

[John Height]

Such juveniles aren't we can't help it. In national and international news, Supreme Court Justices Elena Kagan and Amy Coney Barrett yesterday didn't mince words when asked about that rhetoric employed by President Trump and others composed to the Supreme Court members describing the remarks he's used in recent months to describe their rulings as both unhelpful and dangerous. The remarks came as part of a broader trip to Capitol Hill to testify about the need for Supreme Court's budget increases for the upcoming fiscal year. Budget increases? Part of them anyway, for security purposes. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch defended his tumultuous record as the temporary head of the Justice Department. This as he faced bipartisan scrutiny on his bid to become the nation's Senate confirmed chief law enforcement officer. Blanch, President Trump's former defense lawyer tapped last year to serve as the number two official, has held the department's top job on an interim basis since April, when he when the president fired his predecessor, Pam Bondi. In that time, he's accelerated investigations of the president's political rivals, defended and then abandoned a controversial plan to create a nearly $1.8 billion fund to pay those who claim they were target by political prosecutions, and pushed forward with probes aimed at finding evidence to support Trump's long held baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him. President Trump demanding Immigration and Customs Enforcement resume traffic stops a day after the agency mostly paused the practice so they

[Joe Soucheray]

don't handle them very well.

[John Height]

Trump's demand, issued via a Morning Truth social post today comes after ICE was involved in two fatal traffic stops within a week. ICE has come under intense CR criticism after agents were told Tuesday to stop most traffic stops until further notice and work with other law enforcement agencies when vehicles are involved in arrests. Immigration agents fatally shot Lorenzo salgado Araujo on July 7th in Houston during a traffic stop. He was not the intended target, according to the DHS. On Monday, ICE agents shot and killed another man, 26 year old John Sebastian Garage Guerrero in Maine, also during a traffic stop. The Colombian man who had permission to work in the US Was also not the intended target of the ICE operation.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

[John Height]

A novel Alzheimer's treatment slows disease progression at a rate comparable to approved drugs According to a mid stage trial presented yesterday, the results could lead to a new class of therapy. The exact cause of Alzheimer's remains unclear, but leading theories suggest the disease is driven by the buildup of amyloid beta and tau proteins in the brain. Some research suggests amyloid began accumulating roughly 20 years before symptoms appear and may eventually trigger an abnormal form of tau that sparks the symptoms onset. Existing drugs target amyloid through intravenous infusions, reducing cognitive decline by about 25 to 35% compared with a placebo. The new drug, it's called Duronarson, is injected into the fluid around the spinal cord and directs the brain to make less.

[Kenny Olson]

Towel.

[John Height]

Lowest dose curtails cognitive decline by about 26%.

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought you said at the beginning there's a way to do this without drugs, that you read the first sentence again of the story.

[John Height]

A novel Alzheimer's treatment slows disease progression.

[Joe Soucheray]

I misconstrued novel for something that wouldn't involve drugs.

[John Height]

Gotcha. Speaking of Alzheimer's, a sad note. Chesley Sully Sullenberger, a retired pilot who successfully landed that airliner on the Hudson river, has been diagnosed with early Alzheimer's disease. He announced it yesterday. He's 75 years old. He said it's in the early stage. For now, that means a name may not come easily, or I forget a story I may have recently told. Sullenberger said he hopes that by sharing news of his diagnosis, other families living in the shadows with the disease, these will feel that they too can step forward.

[Joe Soucheray]

Good thing he didn't have it in 2009, huh?

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Did anybody see the movie? I didn't realize they made a movie. Yes.

[Chris Reavers]

With Tom Hanks, right?

[John Height]

Yeah. Tom Hanks.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think I did see it. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

It was an interesting approach to the whole thing. I thought it. It was pretty. They tried to. I don't know if it was the FAA or his airline. Tried to prove that he was guilty. Guilty, actually. And made the wrong decision. And they could have made it back to the airport.

[Josh Arnold]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

He'll always be a hero to me.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh. To all of us. Yeah.

[Matthew Long]

I did watch the movie, but I. I already knew what the ending was, so it wasn't very. It was anti.

[Chris Reavers]

Like Titanic.

[Matthew Long]

Yeah.

[Chris Reavers]

Yeah. You kind of already knew it was coming. Yeah.

[Matthew Long]

What's the deal?

[Chris Reavers]

I didn't learn anything.

[John Height]

As Joe talked about earlier, the House yesterday passing with broad bipartisan support, legislation that would make daylight saving time permanent nationwide. Lower chamber voted 308 to 117 for the Sunshine Protection act of 2025, which would make daylight saving time the permanent standard time. 22 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted against the measure. Legislation now heads to the Senate where opinions are mixed. The Senate unanimously approved a similar measure in 2022, but it stalled in the House. It could face some opposition in the Senate this time around. Senator Tom Cotton, Republican from Arkansas, has warned it would, quote, push winter sunrises to an absurdly late hour, that kids would either walk to school in the pitch black or schools would have to push back start times. President Trump backs the legislation, arguing in a truth social post that the bill, quote, is so important in that hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent every year by people, cities and states being forced to change their clocks.

[Joe Soucheray]

How does it cost hundreds of millions of dollars to change a clock? Not sure. I, I don't. I think I'm making a decision.

[John Height]

Okay.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't want a late sun rises in the winter.

[Chris Reavers]

All right, caller, will you go ahead, please?

[Joe Soucheray]

Carl, go ahead, please.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, they went into the nursing home in the Al's room at the nursing home.

[Joe Soucheray]

Who went in? What now? I'm sorry? Who went into a nursing home?

[Josh Arnold]

Nurse check on Al at the nursing home. And he was taking the shoe polish

[Joe Soucheray]

and putting it all over his swimsuit area.

[Josh Arnold]

And the nurse said, no, Al, you heard it wrong. They said, turn the clocks back.

[Chris Reavers]

I love that Dia. The most important question was answered, who went into the nurse?

[Joe Soucheray]

The nurse. Yeah, here we go.

[John Height]

And Carl replied, replied with such disdain.

[Joe Soucheray]

Heard this before, you big dummy, you. What do you think went in there?

[John Height]

Back in my home state of North Dakota, two men who say they were switched at birth at a Grafton, North Dakota, hospital in 1988 are suing the medical center after a 2023 DNA test revealed they had been raised by each other's biological families. According to court documents, Unity Medical center denies all allegations in the court complaint. For 35 years, Jeremy Morrison and Kyle Bylan lived about a county, about a county apart in North Dakota. They celebrated milestones with their families, first words, first steps, birthdays, etc. Etc. Never knew they'd been living their lives with the wrong identities. Elizabeth o' Toole and Terry Morrison had welcomed their son Jeremy early in the morning of January 28, 1988. But ten hours later, Evelyn Newton and Keith Bylan greeted their new baby, Connor Kyle. They were the only two babies born at the Unity Medical center in Grafton that day. Families say they didn't learn the truth until 2023, when Kyle Byland took a DNA test to learn more about his mom's German heritage.

[Kenny Olson]

They were the only two, and they

[John Height]

still only two born that day.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay, go ahead.

[John Height]

Tim o' Keeffe's a partner in the law firm of o', Keefe, o' Brien and Lyson. He said we had all of the family members go into a professional facility locally and do paternity tests and DNA tests to figure out who actually related to whom. And the results were overwhelming. That these two now men were switched at birth when they were babies. Families are suing the hospital for negligence and emotional distress. While at the hospital, Kyle and Jeremy. Jeremy were switched and given to each other's biological parents. The lawsuit alleges one of the men still has his wristband from the hospital with the wrong name. O' Keefe said what? Yeah, yeah. According to o', Keefe, this is really difficult for everyone involved, not just the two boys, but parents and their families, too. They're part of a small rural community in North Dakota. We want to have trust in our hospitals and our medical personnel.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, forget that. Did the kids. Are they all right? I mean, how old are they?

[Matthew Long]

Grown men?

[Kenny Olson]

How did this affect their. Are any of them worse off?

[Joe Soucheray]

Are they in prison or. I mean, did one guy get the great dad, another guy didn't? The rich one in the one hung

[Kenny Olson]

like, you know, and the other ones, you know. You know, if I was the judge, I would throw this out. I would say, get over it. Get on with your life. Shut up. Stop talking.

[Chris Reavers]

John, you.

[Joe Soucheray]

You've reminded me to bring something up again. And we will, okay?

[John Height]

We will. In just.

[Joe Soucheray]

In just a moment. You'll learn more here by accident than elsewhere by design. Here's Joe Suture.

[Chris Reavers]

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[Joe Soucheray]

John's story about the two fellows in North Dakota switched at birth reminds me to revisit the story that John had the other day about the family that checks into an Airbnb in San Diego. And hanging on the wall of the house is a scene of a beach with a number of people on the beach, and it was this family. Now, what are the odds of that?

[Kenny Olson]

Astronomical 0%.

[Joe Soucheray]

So it turns into the. Aubrey Burrell posted a video of of the family's reaction to this. It happened July 2nd. In the video, Audrey zooms in on a large beach canvas hanging in the Airbnb hallway, pointing to figures in the water as she identifies her father, her sister, and her brother. And there was nothing untoward about it. They were just among the people on the beach. Right. The tourists said the discovery came as the family was looking around the rental. After checking in, we're looking at that picture. And my dad said, that looks like me. And I said, dad, what? I'm taking out all the likes because I hate.

[Matthew Long]

Thank you for that edit.

[Joe Soucheray]

And I said, dad. What? No, this is my dad. That's my sister Libby from 10 years ago. That's Brady, my brother, 10 years ago. They're in the Airbnb. Her sister Libby, who appears in the video, was equal parts disturbed and amused. It's unsettling. It's random, said Libby. We are in this picture. We are in this Airbnb wall. We have those swimsuits still. Burrell sister added, we are literally in this picture. We are on our Airbnb wall. Okay, they're doing video. Some commenters now, okay, were creeped out. Well, one said, it sounds like the start of a horror movie. It'd be a great start to a horror movie, wouldn't it? Another said, what are the odds of you looking that closely at the picture? Because when you look at the figures in the picture here, it's just a beach scene.

[Matthew Long]

Yeah, it's nothing spectacular.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's just a beach scene, but they see the themselves. But then another user had a great story. Similar story. My uncle got a postcard for Mackinac island, and my grandfather was randomly in the photo eating an ice cream cone. He had passed away many years earlier. Whoa. Another person said, another. Nobody else said anything. Oh, I once checked into a hotel at the beach in the middle of a thunderstorm. Another viewer of that video said, I grabbed a newspaper to hold over my head. When I got to the room, I looked at the paper and there was a picture of my mom and dad on the front page. It was from a festival in the beach town from three years before. Okay, What I'm suggesting here is that there. There's. There's something. This is too weird.

[Kenny Olson]

No, it's completely fake.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, there. There's the picture.

[Kenny Olson]

No, it's 100% fake. There's Joe. Joe you're right. I'm agreeing with you. There is nothing true about this story. They got the picture from 10 years ago, they blew it up, they hung it on the wall. They're the ones making a big deal about this in order to get paid publicity. 100% fake.

[John Height]

Wouldn't the people of the house then say, well, we didn't have that picture hanging there, John.

[Kenny Olson]

It's 100% fake.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think it's 100 true. And it suggests something to do with aliens. The aliens, somewhere in there, is a UFO somehow.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, that is the most absurd thing I have ever heard in my life. And I absolutely agree with you.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is the odds. Odds are there. You could not calculate the odds. Have you guys ever done that? Doesn't work.

[Chris Reavers]

Have you guys ever done the Airbnb route? No.

[Kenny Olson]

No, because I never will. They have hidden cameras. I'm not doing that.

[Chris Reavers]

I. We used to do it. I will no longer do it.

[Joe Soucheray]

I will never do it.

[Chris Reavers]

I will no longer do it. No, they're not.

[Kenny Olson]

No. There's hidden cameras everywhere.

[Chris Reavers]

I found a camera, rookie. I'm not going to say where we were. We were not in this state. I found a camera. Yeah, they're watching and I reported them.

[Matthew Long]

Did it have the picture with the eye?

[Chris Reavers]

It's not a joke, Matthew. It's legit. That's where a lot of this.

[Joe Soucheray]

Can I. Can I go back to.

[Chris Reavers]

But hold on, let me say one thing about that. This is where a lot of those videos of young children, that's where they come from, is places like this.

[Matthew Long]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

You of all people, how can you believe this story? Seriously, it's so fake. We're going to find out in the coming weeks. It's all going to come out. It's all going to come out.

[Joe Soucheray]

Only because they come to us from our friends.

[Kenny Olson]

Have I ever lied to you before, Mr. Mayor?

[John Height]

Many, many times.

[Kenny Olson]

Every day.

[Joe Soucheray]

I've been there many times. We are in Marleth park, the traveling Lymans in South Africa, worldwide waftage.com. it's only because they come to us all the way from that distance. It was on this day, Joe.

[Chris Reavers]

Today is July 15th.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, the celebrated Norwegian violinist Olie Bull performed in the capitol building in St. Paul, a heady concert for a territorial capital. On this day, Joe, today is July 15th. In 1872, the Twin Cities First Street, a horse drawn affair began operation. And you got all these dingbats in town that want to go back to that. Can you imagine all the horse poop that was on the street. On this day, July 15th in 1881, a tornado killed six people in New Ulm. It also blew through Palmyra, Wellington and Cairo in renville county, killing 11 more. Wow. On this day, July 15th in 1929, American, African American lawyer William T. Francis, appointed U.S. minister to Liberia by President Calvin Coolidge. In 1927, died of yellow fever in Monrovia, Liberia. Born in Indianapolis in 1869, Francis moved to Minnesota in 1888 and later took over Frederick Mag practice. As a well known St. Paul attorney, Francis participated in many racially charged trials, including the 1920 appeal of the Duluth lynching trial in which he represented the defendants. We were better off than 1929 in race relations. This guy was a big shot lawyer in town. On this day, July 15th in 1850, James Janos was born.

[Matthew Long]

Really?

[Joe Soucheray]

He's known to us.

[Matthew Long]

Why are you looking at me?

[Joe Soucheray]

Jesse Ventura, AKA on this day in Sports Disappointment. Wait a minute. Oh, yeah, I didn't read the rest of the Jesse thing. He became governor, as we well know. Oh, what year? In night in the. In November of 98. Tell Joe at pass I won. Yeah, I don't listen to. On this day in Sports disappointment history.

[Chris Reavers]

Joe, who'd we lose to?

[Joe Soucheray]

On. There are no items posted for today's date.

[Chris Reavers]

You know why there was no sports?

[Joe Soucheray]

It's, well, the only day All Star game. See. But there is sports. Today England plays for Venez, Argentina. Argentina at 2 o'. Clock. I didn't know that was the world's greatest sports rivalry.

[Kenny Olson]

That's not a sport sport.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, not to me and you it isn't. But to most of the world it is.

[Chris Reavers]

My, my best or my best part of the World cup is watching them fall to their death after they were kicked by air. Oh, my leg.

[Matthew Long]

Oh, yeah, I think it's.

[Joe Soucheray]

I got to say one thing more on behalf of the soccer. You got to. You got to. You got to kind of congratulate him a bit. Well, no, this doesn't work. Why? Well, they're playing at 2 o', clock, which is 8 o' clock in London. Let's say it's 8 o' clock in London. I think it's six hours.

[Chris Reavers]

What about daylight savings?

[Joe Soucheray]

Just go with me here and shut the hell up. It's eight o' clock in London. So they're allowing the English fans to see it at a normal time when they could see it.

[Josh Arnold]

Sure.

[Joe Soucheray]

What about Argentina fans?

[Chris Reavers]

What time is it there?

[Joe Soucheray]

It's probably about 2 o' clock in Argentina.

[Kenny Olson]

What time is it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Right here, 1:15.

[Matthew Long]

I get the time of the time.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, as long as I get the time of the dam.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you, G.

[Chris Reavers]

Daylight savings. Here we go.

[Joe Soucheray]

That game on the radio, that would be really something to listen to on the radio. The, the long terms of silence.

[Chris Reavers]

Well, that and the, the, the, what do you call it? The broadcasters get very into the goal calls. Yeah, that's a lot.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's never a goal. That's why they get so excited.

[Chris Reavers]

Hey, hit the subscribe button on the Garage Logic YouTube channel where you can watch the show each and every single, single day, sometimes with a mild interruption, but it's always there for you. Just search garagelogic. That's two words on YouTube along with all of our social media channels. That includes Facebook, Instagram and X. And you can also sign up for the Daily Logician. That is an email that comes right to your inbox every single day. And it includes the most recent episode of the podcast. Find out more inside [e-mail] Matthew Long

[Matthew Long]

London is four hours ahead of Argentina.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, yeah. What's Argentina?

[Chris Reavers]

Four hours behind London.

[Matthew Long]

So it's 7:16 there now, 3:16.

[Chris Reavers]

Anyway, it is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what Ida didn't. Pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you are going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk, he will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, one of your favorites, Apple Boy, they hit a new high and big moves in the mega cap.

[Josh Arnold]

Big moves in the mega cap index. Not just Apple hitting a new high partly on getting some approvals out of China for their AI integration into Tassiri. That has helped by the way, two Chinese companies that trade in the United States, Baidu as well as Alibaba, as Alibaba's Quinn AI product is going to be integrated at least in China with all of Apple's products for accessing artificial intelligence. That has boosted Apple to an all time high. Intraday it touched $327 a share. This of course adds a little to my Excitement around Apple as we have previously stated my and my clients largest position and they do have a $400 price target on Apple but this not going to get there in a straight line. It of course is going to be an up and down move along with Apple moving positively and I will come back real real quickly. It is very interesting today that Apple is up. Yesterday Apple got a downgrade from KeyBank a sell rating on KeyBanc's belief that the rise in Apple's prices on computers and potentially the, and I say potentially an increase in iPhone prices when the new iPhones come out later this year will cut demand for Apple's products and if demand goes down that could hurt the entire infrastructure. That downgrade yesterday followed an increase in price target on Monday by Citibank saying the opposite. So just a little dynamic there. Meantime Microsoft is up very strongly today as is Google and Amazon all moving in a positive direction. The chips on the other hand, despite a very very good report from asml, a manufacturer of machines that will do the etching in the chips and a necessary company or machine company for the manufacture of chips reported much than expected numbers. So a beat and raise. Initially AFML had jumped on the news which had pushed up many of the chip companies but as the morning progressed the chips reversed and have headed down. I think there's been an awful lot of profit taking there but right now the fundamentals, the fundamentals are still very very strong around the AI trade. We'll get more information the coming weeks as the chip companies continue to report. Meantime you've got a. It comes we'll say to chips and AI. You definitely have to hand it to the state of New York kicking themselves in the butt over their new moratorium on building out AI centers saying they cause an increase in energy prices. Well that I don't know about. Energy prices have been going up, but I don't attribute that to the increase in data centers. Yes, data centers do drain and use a tremendous amount of energy and many data centers are trying to put together their own sources of energy. York has put forth all kinds of regulation over the last 20 years, making it very difficult we'll say for energy production. Last year alone New York lost about 4.4 gigawatts of power with the shutting down of natural gas plants plants and only gained a fraction of that through renewable energy. As many of you are aware, the renewable energy sources are not necessarily always on as is we'll say natural gas or even nuclear. New York has repeatedly hurt itself economically with their policies around the development of energy. And you can see the difference just in their next door neighbor Pennsylvania, which has much lower energy costs and is willing to develop all sources of energy, energy power.

[Chris Reavers]

Excellent advice as always Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation and again with absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Josh Arnold]

We'll look forward to thanks very much

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[Chris Reavers]

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