8/4 Much to our regret, we got into a discussion on bathhouses in Minneapolis

Summary

Garage Logic – Episode Summary (August 4, 2026)
“Much to our regret, we got into a discussion on bathhouses in Minneapolis”
Host: Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor"), with Chris Reavers, Kenny Olson, John Height, Rookie/Assistant, Matthew, and Josh Arnold
Podcast: Gamut Podcast Network
Episode #: 1823

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Episode Overview

This episode, described by Joe Soucheray as “one we almost wish we hadn’t had,” centers on two hot-button topics:

• A rapidly escalating drama within St. Paul city government, involving Mayor Melvin Carter, Police Chief Axel Henry, and questions of budget, leadership, and a sexual harassment complaint.
• Minneapolis’s controversial move to legalize and potentially fund public bathhouses, and whether taxpayers should foot the bill for spaces widely perceived as risky in terms of public health.

Longtime listeners will recognize the signature Garage Logic approach: a blend of salty common sense, skepticism about government priorities, and gallows humor about local politics and evolving social norms.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Old Cars & New Technology (01:00–07:16)

• Listener Mail: Todd Cordes writes in, criticizing the dismissal of new car tech on the previous episode. He recounts his enjoyment of modern upgrades in an old truck—new stereo, GPS, backup camera—arguing they improve safety and comfort.
• Hosts debate whether adding tech to “old school” vehicles undermines their value or is just customizing to personal taste.
• Notable Quote:
  • Joe Soucheray: “To me, the whole point of getting a 2006 car...would be to have a 2006 car without the fancy radio and the…” (06:43)

2. St. Paul’s Mayor v. Police Chief Saga (07:16–14:08)

• Background: There’s a public and messy fight between St. Paul’s mayor and police chief (Axel Henry), involving sexual harassment allegations (“Wiener Wednesday” meme), budget battles, and fallout from prior police actions.
• The team pokes fun at the childishness of the whole drama and questions whether any serious city business can get done with such distractions.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Kenny Olson: “Doesn't it all seem very petty?” (08:29)
  • Rookie: “If the cards were flipping, it was a guy doing that, Wiener Wednesday, different story. Yes or no.” (09:27)
  • Joe Soucheray: “On the one hand, do we really care that the mayor said I wish I could join you for wiener Wednesday?...That's hardly grand scheme. It's not vile.” (08:31–08:50)

(HR Perspective)

• Later in the show, Rookie checks with HR about whether “Wiener Wednesday” is harassment (53:06–55:10).

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3. Minneapolis Bathhouse Debate (14:08–40:13)

Background & Legislation

• Minneapolis has repealed its ban on bathhouses. Some council members (especially DSA members) and activists claim it’s about safer sex spaces and inclusivity.
• Dylan Boyer, of Safer Sex Spaces Coalition, pushes for public health funding and city involvement.

Hosts’ Reaction

• Soucheray and team express incredulity and disdain about the idea that taxpayers might fund bathhouses, especially if they pose health risks.

• Debate over "Externalities": Are the public health risks of bathhouses so great that they justify public investment (a Pigovian tax, as discussed), or should the risks and costs be restricted entirely to those who use the bathhouses?

• Comparison: Bathhouse funding likened to the failed city-run grocery store.

• The show underscores that, in other cities, bathhouses are private ventures and not subsidized by taxpayers.

• Overarching Point: If activities are risky but voluntary, the public shouldn’t be compelled to subsidize them.

• Notable Quotes:

  • Joe Soucheray:
    • “Why in God's name should a hardworking guy or gal in Minneapolis...be on the hook for a bathhouse where the activity itself could have unhealthy consequences?” (17:02)
    • “The idea that it is none of your business what consenting adults get up to in private falls apart when they demand you pay for it.” (27:13)
    • “Stay out of my wallet and I'll stay out of your bedroom. That's me.” (28:03)
    • “It's a shame. It's another example of the city has no idea of what its priority should be. Absolutely zero.” (34:36)
  • Kenny Olson: “They have no real-world experience...They come along and create this utterance crap. And then they want us to pay for it.” (35:54)

Memorable Moments

• Rookie jokes: “Bath House City!” and the prospect of Garage Logic podcast covering a grand opening. (21:02)
• Discovery and joking confusion about what actually happens in bathhouses, leading to a comedic digression on tubs, saunas, and “guys sitting around in towels.” (38:44–39:51)

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4. The Nature of Public Funding & Political Priorities (within 14:00–40:00)

• Soucheray argues Minneapolis is “poorly run” and completely out of touch with everyday citizens’ priorities.
• Kenny Olson challenges: “If you don’t want to pay for bathhouses...what else don’t you want to pay for?”—sparking a wider discussion on priorities and how little taxpayers get to decide.
• Soucheray advocates for private risk/private cost: “Pay at the door and pay enough to cover any health consequences...That shouldn’t be the guy down the street’s problem.” (33:56)

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5. “Wiener Wednesday” – Office Harassment or Harmless Fun? (53:06–55:10)

• Rookie consults HR about the phrase “Wiener Wednesday.”
  • Verdict: If it’s just about hotdogs, fine; if there’s innuendo or it’s directed at someone, it could be harassment.
  • Michelle in HR: “That is not offensive if you leave it like that ... if you start to go, it's kind of 50/50 a wink, wink, nudge, nudge...that can be offensive to some.” (53:26)
• The hosts note that broadcasting/radio culture allows for things that would likely be flagged in a conventional office.

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6. Oddments & Lighthearted Segments

Ice Maker Mishaps (61:10–64:07)

• Joe Soucheray narrates his slapstick (and relatable) ordeal getting stuck under the refrigerator while trying to fix a leak, sparking team jokes about “slithering,” home repair mishaps, and claustrophobia.

Garage Logic “Education Corner” (66:06–67:30)

• The hosts hilariously reveal confusion over “The Iliad”—Joe admits he thought “Iliad” and “Odyssey” were two guys in a buddy movie.
  • “I thought Illiad and Odyssey were two guys.” — Joe (66:43)
  • “That’s a trip they take.” — Joe, defining The Odyssey (76:30)

This Day in Minnesota History (70:35–75:39)

• Regular segment going over significant August 4th events in MN history, from land laws to floods, to Les Steckle’s Vikings coaching debut and Rod Carew’s 3,000th hit.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• "On the one hand, do we really care that the mayor said I wish I could join you for wiener Wednesday?...That's hardly grand scheme. It's not vile."
  — Joe Soucheray (08:31–08:50)

• “Why in God's name should a hardworking guy or gal in Minneapolis...be on the hook for a bathhouse where the activity itself could have unhealthy consequences?”
  — Joe Soucheray (17:02)

• “The idea that it is none of your business what consenting adults get up to in private falls apart when they demand you pay for it.”
  — Joe Soucheray (27:13)

• "Stay out of my wallet and I'll stay out of your bedroom. That's me."
  — Joe Soucheray (28:03)

• “They have no real world experience...They come along and create this utterance crap. And then they want us to pay for it.”
  — Kenny Olson (35:54)

• "I thought Illiad and Odyssey were two guys."
  — Joe Soucheray (66:43)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Listener Mail: Old Cars, New Tech — 01:00–07:16

• St. Paul Government Drama — 07:16–14:08

• Minneapolis Bathhouse Debate — 14:08–40:13

  • First deep dive (health risks, funding questions, Pigovian tax): 14:43–19:57
  • “Welcome to Bath House City!” humor and public health tangent: 21:02–23:00
  • Real philosophical debate (“stay out of my wallet and I’ll stay out of your bedroom”): 27:13–34:23
  • Who is actually pushing for funding and why? — 34:23–40:13

• HR and ‘Wiener Wednesday’ — 53:06–55:10

• Fixing Joe’s Refrigerator (Slapstick Segment) — 61:10–64:07

• Educational Corner: Iliad & Odyssey — 66:06–67:30

• Minnesota History & Sports Wrap — 70:35–75:39

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Tone & Style

As always, the show’s tone is skeptical, plainspoken, and wry, with plenty of banter, generational jokes, and “gumption county” world-weary humor. The hosts are unapologetically nostalgic for simpler times, wary of governmental overreach, and passionate about keeping common sense at the forefront of local debates.

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For New Listeners

This episode encapsulates Garage Logic’s distinctive identity: spirited, old-school takes on change in the city, a deep suspicion of activist government, and a side order of genial self-deprecation. The bathhouse story, in particular, is a microcosm for the hosts’ belief that government should mind its own business (and wallet)—with extra laughs at the all-too-human foibles of modern politics.

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Transcript

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Hail the Flashlight King.

[Joe Soucheray]

Hail you. And now from the Mayor's office above the boathouse on the east shore of Spoon Lake, it's Garage Logic with Chris Reavers manning technology corner, Kenny Olson from the crabby coffee shop, John Height in the news, and of course the rookie here is your Flashlight King fireworks commissioner and the keeper of common sense, your mayor, Joe Susherer. Because disagreements go right to the front of the of the pile. I have an email from Todd Cordes who takes umbrage with the discussion yesterday, lamenting all the technology in cars. You'll recall that discussion?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Certainly,

[Matthew]

Joe.

[Joe Soucheray]

Unfortunately, I take umbrage with some of the early discussions involving you and Kenny during today's show. I take no joy in pointing out where you guys strayed across the center line, but I feel I owe it to you. First, let me say that I joined the chorus of rumps at the general discussion of how the country's leadership and manufacturing sector is aiming toward the lowest common denominator. But Here is where our thoughts diverge first with Kenny. He and I are a few months apart in age, so we have a common base of understanding. I recall the driving instructors admonishing us to look over our shoulder when backing up in passing. However, as a younger curmudgeon I drove truck for a few years before before settling into my career. You quickly learned to stay on your side mirrors or to rely on your side mirrors. This and towing much of my adult life has pretty much disabused me of the look over your shoulder method. That and I don't turn as easily as I once did. I took the timing and context of your comments to mean that relying on mirrors alone was somehow taking the easy route. I don't even recall talking about mirrors.

[Kenny Olson]

That's paranoia on my part.

[Joe Soucheray]

I, on the other hand, say that doing so safely and successfully is an acquired skill and one I'm proud of now. Joe, I immediately related to your comment about some folks who are looking for 15 year old plus vehicles. I recently purchased a 2006 mint condition and low mile Ford F350. They just don't make them like that anymore. But unlike the folks you referenced, one of the first things I did was swap out the factory stereo and put in a kenwood with a 10 inch screen. Now I have the GPS hands free operation. I can listen to the music source I want. I can stream the GL podcast. I also added backup camera and bed camera to be sure. I learned to drive in parallel park in a 73 Impala, learned how to drive a stick in a mid-70s Pinto, and spent way too much time driving a base model K car without power steering. I know driving suffering and have paid my dues. I don't necessarily see this new technology as the drive to the lowest common denominator, but rather I see most of it is making the task easier, safer, more relaxing and enjoyable. Can I back up and connect to a trailer using only mirrors and judgment? Sure. Do I love using the camera? Hell yes I do. In conclusion, it's true that many young people today will head into the future without some of the skills we've learned. Remember, our grandparents were dismissive of the unnecessary improvements such as AM FM radio, power steering, power brakes and power windows. Kenny and I came of age as these niceties became standard equipment and we turned out okay. Well, there are more geezers out there like us who enjoy the new technology and stuff, yet still find time to yell at the clouds. Sure it may be spoiling the newer generations, perhaps even ruining them, but don't those of us who survived the Pinto, I had a Pinto and endured the Kei car deserve some nice things. I hope that rookie, I had hoped that rookie would have stepped up with this opposing opinion, but I guess he left the task to me. Signed Todd. Okay, I read that and I only have one takeaway from it. He bought a 20 year old vehicle and then added as much crap to it as he could. What was he gaining by buying the 2006 truck?

[Kenny Olson]

Less technical difficulties, more a solid built motor. A heavy. He, you know, he said it's a 350. That's a one ton. That's a big ass truck.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

It's built to last and built to pull with a really good engine in it. He made the right choice there.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

I, I, I like everything he said and he's right. When I, I don't have a backup cam and when I hook up a trailer, I'm in and out of the cab anywhere from two to five times. It's a clown show.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right, well, I, to me, the whole point of getting a 2006 car, which doesn't seem that long ago to me would be to have a 2006 car without the fancy radio and the.

[Rookie/Assistant]

How about.

[Joe Soucheray]

I think backup cameras make a lot of sense. I don't want to hit anybody.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, but he added the technology he wanted. He didn't. Instead of it being forced on him. Right. No, I thought that that's a brilliant idea and I know a lot of people that are doing the same thing.

[Joe Soucheray]

I get it, I get it. The news that developed on the crabby coffee shop about the inner intramural squabble between Axel Henry and Collie her continues to make news. It was on the news last night. 5 Eyewitness News. And as we suspected, there's, there's a tug of war between the police chief and the mayor regarding budgets and whether the mayor or whether the chief should have fired a guy who was having a time with his gal in the office and the whole deal. And

[Kenny Olson]

she didn't bring that into the discussion until after the investigation into her emails started. So that was her reacting to him.

[Joe Soucheray]

But as you get closer to the country's tallest buildings, I think these kinds of things are happening all the time. These struggles, these intramural struggles. Sometimes you hear about them and sometimes you don't.

[Kenny Olson]

Doesn't it all seem very petty?

[Joe Soucheray]

It does. It seems childish. On the one hand, do we really care that the mayor said I wish I could join you for wiener Wednesday?

[Kenny Olson]

To me, well, who?

[Joe Soucheray]

That's hardly grand scheme. It's not vile.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Right?

[Joe Soucheray]

It's not. It's not hurting anyone, is it?

[Kenny Olson]

No. It seems like it was her trying to be one of the gang.

[Joe Soucheray]

And then if she wants to go to the police gym and compare her chest size to other people, I don't know, go ahead. I don't care. I. I just don't care. I don't. If you want to do that, that's fine with me. Now, where does that leave Henry? He's using those as his tools to get back at her for budget problems. I don't know where this is supposed to lead.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I think that's kind of bush league. Yeah, I don't need to defend her. If the cards were flipping, it was a guy doing that. Wiener Wednesday, different story. Yes or no.

[Kenny Olson]

And not only, though. The wiener stuff and the budget stuff. It was that raid last fall where the police tear gassed crowds. And then during her reign in January or February, when a St. Paul resident called 911 and police did not respond, it was during an ICE raid. So those are two other items that have put a wedge between the two.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Does Melvin Carter play in here at all?

[Kenny Olson]

Because he is the one that the theory met. And I have yet to see this, but it's just one operating theory, is that there's a faction that wants her removed. And then there would either have to be a special election or an appointment made to fill her chair. And people are speculating maybe that would be Melvin Carter.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, personally, I don't want her removed. It's too early to. To bail on her.

[Kenny Olson]

And I don't even know if that theory is viable. It's just something I've heard, so.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, Melvin's not the answ to anything.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, you know, I'm not going to disagree with that. It's your town, you know.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know. Well, here, this might help. The timeline begins, before her took office in November, police used tear gas and pepper spray against protesters during ICE operations in St. Paul. You got that so far? In January, she took office and she pressed Axel Henry about the internal investigation into that use of tear gas and pepper spray. And she wanted to know where that internal investigation stood. She also wanted to know why police reportedly did not respond to at least one 911 call from a citizen seeking help during an ICE raid, presumably a different raid. Those questions came in February and March, as the mayor also considered trimming the police budget, specifically overtime costs on April 1st. Axel Henry then filed a sexual harassment complaint, claiming a meme sent out by her was Offensive. That's the wiener Wednesday. Okay. He must have been sitting on that, as we say, for batters. Waiting

[Kenny Olson]

on that. He heard through channels that this went out, that it might have gone to either a friend of hers on the force or her driver, which is also a St. Paul police officer, but he requested that that be forwarded to him so he would have it. That's how he got it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah. On April 1st, Henry filed a sexual harassment complaint claiming a meme sent out by her was offensive. Sources told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS or the crappy coffee shop that the mayor did not send the meme directly to Henry. Rather, she sent it to two other officers she was friends with, and Henry ordered them to turn it over. What we have here is an overblown situation. We have a very immature, overblown situation. And I wish it would go away because the city's got a lot of things it needs to do that have nothing to do with this. So.

[Kenny Olson]

One thing I didn't see mentioned, Joe, is something you've been railing against for a long time. She's looking at all these budget cuts issues, but is she considering reducing the size of her staff? I have yet to see her considering that. Maybe she is. I don't know.

[Joe Soucheray]

I doubt it. And we can't get her to answer that question.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why in the private sector do people routinely get laid off? Why does that not happen with government?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Please find that answer, because I don't understand that at all. And why do they always get raises?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think Axel Henry should lose his job, but I don't think the mayor should lose her job. I think the both of them should have lunch. Say, this is a bunch of B. As in B. Let's just end it and go forward. End of story. This is silly for that.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yes,

[Joe Soucheray]

silly. I say. I have something else that. That might bother us. This is from the American Experiment. And you all know that the DSA members of the Minneapolis City Council were particularly fond of establishing a bathhouse. Bringing back the bath houses.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Matthew]

All right.

[Joe Soucheray]

The American Experiment wrote yesterday a John Phelan piece that there are health issues connected with the establishment of a bathhouse.

[Kenny Olson]

Gross.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why? Why would you establish anything if it has health problems? Right?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yeah. Good question.

[Joe Soucheray]

You wouldn't. You wouldn't campaign for a new fertilizer plant downtown if it's. If its emissions were unhealthy new.

[Rookie/Assistant]

That would be the first. They'd be the first in line to say, hell, no.

[Joe Soucheray]

The day Fry signed the ordinance repealing the adult bath house ban NPR reported. Dylan Boyer, a member of the steering committee for the Safer Sex Spaces Coalition.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I didn't know he had one.

[Joe Soucheray]

And the development director of the Aliveness Project told NPR News the bill signing was a huge day and he feels grateful for the support of the city. Well, he's got the support of the dsa. I'm not sure the city. Now the real work begins taking the necessary steps to build a bathhouse. Boyer said, I'm looking forward to working alongside the council and mayor's office to ensure public health funding and strategies are a foundational pillar of future bathhouses in Minneapolis. Now, wait a minute. Let me stop right there. Is the taxpayer on the hook for building the bathhouse? Is this a public building? I thought maybe the ordinance was. So, you know, Sam Jones wants to build a bathhouse. Let him. And he makes the profits off it. This sounds like the taxpayers have to build this thing.

[Rookie/Assistant]

You mean like a grocery store run by the city?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, no.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why would these establishments require public health funding? If there are health issues arising from these bathhouses which are confined to those frequenting them, there is no need for public funding. This is the American Experiment. The attendees could simply be required to purchase insurance, or the city could impose a bathhouse tax payable by the customers at the point of sale. This would be an example of a Pigovian tax, which is Eric Harris Bernstein. If we make Minnesota, explained in different circumstances last year, is a tax levied on a socially harmful activity in hopes of reducing its prevalence and or raising revenue to compensate for its deleterious effects. Either way, if these harms are confined to bathhouse customers, if they are internalized, in other words, in the Economist jargon, there's no need for public funding to ameliorate them. What? Of course not. Why in God's name should a hard working guy or gal in Minneapolis trying to raise their family and paying these outrageous property taxes and state taxes in Minnesota be on the hook for a bathhouse where the activity itself could have unhealthy consequences? Why are we paying for that? I ain't gonna. But I don't live in Minneapolis.

[Rookie/Assistant]

No.

[Kenny Olson]

So is he saying then that what goes on in these walls is going to have a negative effect on the health of the people who don't go in there? Is that what he says?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no, no. It would have a negative effect on the health of the people who go in there. So why in the hell do I have to pay for that?

[Matthew]

Right.

[Rookie/Assistant]

You're voluntarily going in there knowing the risk.

[Joe Soucheray]

The guy, the proponent here this Dylan Boyer.

[Kenny Olson]

Hold on. The next paragraph explains.

[Joe Soucheray]

I know. I. I got it.

[Kenny Olson]

Says what I just said. I think he's asserting that we're all going to be in harm unless we pay.

[Joe Soucheray]

In rattling the begging bowl for taxpayer cash. Mr. Boyer. He's the Daniel Boyer who told NPR News that we need public health funding. In rattling the begging bowl for taxpayer. Mr. Boyer seems to be conceding that there are health issues arising from bathhouses. Okay. Which are not confined to those frequenting them. They are externalized. If he is, we have a negative externality or harm to others. And under the harm principle, that justifies community intervention.

[Kenny Olson]

So. So they're going to go in there, they're going to pick something up, they're going to bring it out, and then when they're partying with somebody else, they're going to spread it around. It's just a way of saying they're going to be spreading aids.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, then let's not build this. What. What is. Why is this being built?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Well, I got news.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why is this being built?

[Josh Arnold]

Toothpaste is out of the tube there, boss.

[Matthew]

What?

[Kenny Olson]

Well, it's not toothpaste, but I like the enamel. I get what you're saying.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Just sit over here. Now, just a little ice cream.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

What a gross.

[Joe Soucheray]

This is just. Well, it is, but it shows. Welcome to Minneapolis. It shows you how poorly run big cities are.

[Kenny Olson]

And why would the mayor sign off on it?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, because he's.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I hope they buy at him. I can see at the grand opening with garage podcast.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm not doing that.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, that's Matt. That's got.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Oh, I got it. I got it. I'm available.

[Joe Soucheray]

No shame. No.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Bath House City.

[Joe Soucheray]

No, no.

[Kenny Olson]

Drag it through.

[Matthew]

Oh.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right now up at Ecofund Motorsports in Forest Lake, Columbia.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Why.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why here after I just said that?

[Kenny Olson]

Why would you go to our friend Tim Bloom?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, you ought to learn to be quiet. I really should. It's on Highway 97. I'm doing it now because I want people to get up there. It's the Aprilia demo day.

[Kenny Olson]

Big day today.

[Joe Soucheray]

You can go test ride an Aprilia motorcycle, get a coupon for 500 bucks and apply it to the purchase of one.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's go until 4pm today. What else are they going to do when they get there? They're going to chow.

[Joe Soucheray]

My friend Gronhoffer's there.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I'm hungry.

[Joe Soucheray]

And while you're there, you know it's the E Bike capital of the world. Tremendous motorcycles, tremendous scooters on sale starting at 1499 Kawasaki Mules and Waverunners and Jet Skis that now include the free trailer.

[Matthew]

Woo.

[Joe Soucheray]

But right now, it's Demo Day. They got a great parking lot. They got great, beautiful smooth roads up there because the urban commuters haven't ruined them yet. Let's go.

[Kenny Olson]

The weather.

[Joe Soucheray]

The weather's perfect. Perfect. It's motorcycling weather. And it's Aprilia Demo Day at Ecofund. You're going up the freeway. Swing in there. It's on 97, immediately west of the interstate, about three roundabouts and Bing, bang boom, you're there. Also down in Burnsville on the service road of life near County Road 42. But the Aprilia Demo Day is at the Forest Lake location. And if you haven't treated yourself to a visit to Ecofund, you're in for a treat. Also, find out more not only about Demo Day, but the full lineup of available products at [e-mail].

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[Joe Soucheray]

Joey D. You boys had quite a bit of fun with your wordplay during the town council break. And to the point of people wondering why I even brought this story up. This is an incredibly important story. If you don't think Minneapolis is on the wrong track, all you have to realize is that the taxpayers are now going to be sought for money to ensure the

[Rookie/Assistant]

health and welfare.

[Joe Soucheray]

It won't even insure anything. But you've got proponents of this. Is it a bathhouse or are there multiple. I don't know. And it sounds like the city has to build it in rattling the begging bowl for taxpayer cash. Mr. Boyer, he's this fellow who's the member of a steering committee called Safer Sex Spaces Coalition. I have no obligation to any of my fellow citizens to enable them to practice safer sex. I have no obligation whatsoever. That's your problem. I shouldn't have to pay for that. But there's a coalition out there. They get the ear of the DSA council people. And the dsa, which is very symptomatic of the mystery, thinks this is a great idea. If you are going to demand that the community fund your activities, you have to accept that in doing so, you are giving the community a say in those activities. And wouldn't it be reasonable for that community to decline to pay for them? Yes, community should decline to pay for this and deal with the supposed negative externality. External externalities. By simply pronouncing these activities illegal. That's why bath houses were closed. Bath houses were closed. Who thinks it's a good idea to start them up again? Chugger Chavez, Wansley, Chowdhury. The usual suspects.

[Kenny Olson]

Let's just remind everybody who led the charge to close those bath houses. The gay community did. Because they felt it was. They were creating a risk in spreading aids.

[Joe Soucheray]

The idea that it is none of your business what consenting adults get up to in private falls apart when they demand you pay for it. Now, as far as I'm concerned, consulting adults can do whatever they want. But precisely. I don't have to pay for it. I won't pay for it. I should not have to pay for it. I'm speaking on behalf of the citizens of Minneapolis who apparently are outvoted by the people in Minneapolis who want you to pay for their consenting adult sexual behavior that might in fact be dangerous to health. They want you to pay for it. You shouldn't have to. The social liberal offers the bargain. Stay out of my wallet and I'll stay out of your bedroom. That's me.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Okay,

[Joe Soucheray]

but if the counterparty to the offer insists on entering the social liberal's wallet, they can't complain when the social liberal shows up tut tutting in their bedroom. They have in fact been invited in. I have written before. This is John Phelan, American Experiment. I have written before the conservatives, even though socially liberal ones ought to be careful not to identify negative externalities too readily. I humbly offer that advice to progressives too. This is a sick situation. You had bathhouses close because of unwanted health consequences.

[Rookie/Assistant]

And now give me a year on that.

[Joe Soucheray]

2020 and 2021. Okay, now I'd have to go back and review. I know we talked about this when it was before the City Council. I don't know how it got to the City council. It apparently got to the city council, but people, because people like Dylan Boyer, whoever he is a member of the steering. Well, it got to the City council because we have something in Minneapolis called the Safer Sex Spaces Coalition. And it got to the City Council because we have something in Minneapolis called the Aliveness Project. And they've been pushing for this. Now they get before the City council and this is right up their alley because it'll irritate people. It addresses only a certain and narrow constituency. They don't have to do much work. They just say, yeah, that'd be cool. But now they want your money to do it. No. And go back to Fry a moment. Why Fry sign an ordinance. Repealing the ban is beyond my comprehension now that I realize they all along they wanted your money for it.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Pretty sneaky.

[Joe Soucheray]

This used to be a hell of a place to live.

[Kenny Olson]

I think Fry probably political reasons. He didn't want to seem like he was an enemy to gay people. He didn't want to come yet. Perception, reality. That nonsense.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right? But what the hump they can't get over is you're not an enemy to gay people. To tell gay people, if you want a bath house, build it and pay for it yourself and take out your own insurance, there's nothing wrong with that. No one's preventing you from doing whatever you want in the bathhouse. That's your deal. But you can't expect a guy down the street to pay for it. And I would hope that it's an untoward issue. I doubt if the average citizen in Minneapolis. The average citizen in Minneapolis is not paying attention. Otherwise these people would not have been elected in the first place. They're being elected by the People who most want them there. You keep talking about the Delta baggage handler, your mythical Delta baggage hand down the alley. The guy down the alley, he's got a wife and a couple of kids and schools coming up and they're working their asses off and just bought a snowblower and now he's gonna get a bill for a bleepin bathhouse.

[Matthew]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

No. When can somebody up, stand up around here and say no?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Well, it starts with you, army of one. Let's go.

[Joe Soucheray]

It doesn't start with me. I have no political persuasion whatsoever.

[Josh Arnold]

Look at it through the garage logic lens.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, the garage logic lens is what has been being looked through for the last 20 minutes. And the garage logic lens says no, you pay for it.

[Josh Arnold]

But when you do that, what happens? You're attacked, you're.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't care if I'm attacked.

[Josh Arnold]

No, but, but I'm saying, let's say you're a political opponent of this, right? You're automatically able to all see he's against the trans community, he's against the

[Kenny Olson]

whatever, you know, and so is the baggage handler, so is the voter.

[Joe Soucheray]

The everyday, they just have to stand their ground. Their idea is stronger than the proponent's idea. Have we reached a point in American society where the ideas have no merit? Because the idea here is the, the, the mythical baggage handler has no objection to guys or gals or whatever in a bath house and do whatever the hell you do in a bath house. What, what he has to say is I don't think I should pay for it. Yeah, who could argue that point?

[John Height]

Apparently this is the only place too, because I looked up about. There's 30 to 35 bath houses in the U.S. they're all privately owned. None of them get any money from any government.

[Rookie/Assistant]

It should be wonderful.

[Joe Soucheray]

Not in this God forsaken Minneapolis.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, but Joe, and I'm just, I'm not opposing you, but let me bring this up. If you don't want to pay for bath houses and the health thereof, what else don't you want to pay for? And when is that going to stop? You don't have a say in what your taxes are going to pay for.

[Joe Soucheray]

But this is such a concrete, specific example of a potential health crisis that can be avoided. Of course, we all pay for things that if we could go down the list we'd say, well, I don't want to pay for that and I don't want to pay for that.

[Kenny Olson]

They would be redacted and just nothing but black lines.

[Joe Soucheray]

But this is a very, very Concrete, limited, symptomatic example of what's wrong with the political system as it currently leads us. And I am not against anything in terms of your behavior. If you want to go in a bathhouse, then pay at the door and pay enough to cover any health consequences you might experience. That shouldn't be the guy down the street's problem.

[Rookie/Assistant]

No.

[Joe Soucheray]

And they're gonna argue, well, it will be the problem because we're so irresponsible that. What if we bring whatever we contract outside the building and in fact, the community. Well, don't do that.

[Rookie/Assistant]

And if you do that, we're gonna shut her down.

[Joe Soucheray]

It's been shut down before. It was a bad idea to reignite this thing. It's just stupidity. It's a shame. It's another example of the city has no idea of what its priority should be. Absolutely zero. You got people sleeping on the sidewalk on Franklin. The city has no idea about priorities because the DSA people have no ability to structure priorities. They have no experience in anything except ideology. And they constantly think they win by virtue of their ideology is superior to yours. So they think their ideology is superior to me saying, no, you pay for it.

[Kenny Olson]

Boy, you just struck on something that I've been trying to put into words for a long time. They think they're. Say it again.

[Joe Soucheray]

Their ideology is what is the only traction they have on the public. It's the only hold they have on the public is they belief that their ideology is better than yours.

[Kenny Olson]

Their beliefs. Yeah, right.

[Joe Soucheray]

They have no real world experience. They have. Most of them, virtually all of them, don't have any families to worry about, no children to worry about, no car to worry about. So they come along and create this utterance crap. And then they want us to pay for it. I don't want to. You shouldn't pay for it. Minneapolis. Somebody in Minneapolis should really start a campaign. You're not paying for it. This is ridiculous. Here's how naive I am. I'm still naive. You would think I wouldn't be after all this time. I was so naive. When this came up and the council passed it and the mayor incorrectly repealed the ordinance. It didn't occur to me that they be coming to the public for money. I assumed this was a private deal.

[Kenny Olson]

That did not occur to us, dude.

[Joe Soucheray]

It occurred to me because I'm stupid. Because I'm naive. This is pathetic. It's absolutely pathetic.

[Josh Arnold]

Did you hear their. Their response when they were asked that question?

[Joe Soucheray]

No.

[Josh Arnold]

The response was on the advice of counsel. I respectfully declined to Answer based upon my rights under the Fifth amendment of the Constitution.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is that what they really said? This is. This is a.

[Josh Arnold]

We live in wacky town. Seriously?

[Rookie/Assistant]

That's what's happening.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you realize they're making an argument that we have the right to engage in any kind of behavior in the bathhouse? Stop. I would say, yes, you are right. You do whatever you. That's not my deal. That's yours. But they're all. No, they're saying we have the right to engage in any kind of behavior we want in the bathhouse that you. That you're going to build. And additionally, because of quite possible negative health consequences, we do want you to pay for that. No, no. Pay for it yourself.

[Rookie/Assistant]

They don't want to do that. That costs money, and they ain't got none.

[Kenny Olson]

Is a bathhouse comparable to a. Let me clean it up here. House of. A madam's house?

[Rookie/Assistant]

A house of ill repute?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

I have no idea.

[Kenny Olson]

Are they comparable?

[Joe Soucheray]

I have no idea. I don't. I. You know, I hate to go down this road, but I don't even understand the bath part of it. What?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Let me wash your back.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's a bathtub or what?

[Rookie/Assistant]

I don't think so.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is there a swimming pool?

[Josh Arnold]

I believe it's a sauna.

[John Height]

I have been doing some research since we started.

[Joe Soucheray]

Jesus Christ in heaven. I'm praying.

[John Height]

A lot of people, they go there not for the sex, but to relax. But there are certain areas where you can traverse to know that. Well, we do, Chris. Just look it up. But I know it's tough. You just go to the area, insult me, you.

[Josh Arnold]

I was just playing a sound bite.

[John Height]

We know it's true.

[Joe Soucheray]

Watch your language.

[Josh Arnold]

You don't need to do that, John.

[John Height]

We know it's not true. All you got to do is go online and look. And there are certain areas of each bath house where men, you know, traipse off to.

[Joe Soucheray]

So I could go in there and read, but I don't know why I would. Yeah, I could find other places to read.

[John Height]

A lot of the pictures I see are guys sitting around in towels.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Which I would have no interest in sitting around with a bunch of other guys.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, I'm not done yet. Where's the bath part?

[John Height]

Well, there are bath. There's areas.

[Joe Soucheray]

Is there a tub?

[John Height]

Yes. They're like giant pools of warm water. And guys, just like a sauna, say,

[Rookie/Assistant]

but you need to pull the lever, right?

[John Height]

And I don't know, rook, I'm.

[Kenny Olson]

Have you guys seen a shot in the Dark. I'm seeing Inspector Clouseau walking around with a guitar in front of him.

[Joe Soucheray]

You might need attorneys. You might need attorneys. If you go there, you could get injured or there's no good. There's no way to segue into any ad after talking about Bathhouse.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Give it about 2 seconds of silence and then say, how about that rain we had last night?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, that Bradshaw and Brian like that rain, but it made driving dangerous because

[Rookie/Assistant]

this road's rain will make the flowers grow.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[John Height]

I'm great.

[Joe Soucheray]

Are you sleeping okay?

[Matthew]

I'm great.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here we go, Here we go, Here we go.

[Rookie/Assistant]

There it is.

[Joe Soucheray]

This guy wears many hats, just not indoors.

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[Joe Soucheray]

Chris Reivers is a paid endorser. Who is that that talks so fast? Is that Bernie?

[Rookie/Assistant]

That's your guy. Jim Geraci, but he's off today. Oh, he's out of the office.

[Joe Soucheray]

Here's John Height in the news department.

[John Height]

Thanks, Joe. This news is brought to you by North American Banking Company. Minneapolis Community Safety Commissioner Todd Barnett will be stepping down from his position at the end of the year. According to a city spokesperson, Barnett will remain interim commissioner until the end of the year while a search for a permanent commissioner proceeds over the next five months. The spokesperson said Barnett will help to complete the search for the next police chief, oversee the work to open the South Minneapolis Community Safety center, and oversee community safety reform initiatives. Barnett said, while I have yet to decide my next chapter, my work is not yet complete. It's truly been an honor to serve the city I love and to work alongside this dedicated staff in their homes, neighborhoods and communities. Barnett began serving in the role in 2023, and in April of this year, Mayor Jacob Fry nominated him to serve the another term, but the City Council denied that reappointment. The mayor then vetoed the rejection and sent the matter back to the council. 5 Eyewitness News pressing St. Paul City Council members for answers and reaction on the story we talked about earlier, the sexual harassment investigation into Mayor Kali her. Last week, three St. Paul City Council members released statements noting the. Well, what they called serious allegations, but pledging to respect the investigation, which has apparently been ongoing since April. This morning, five eyewitnesses contacted Council President Rebecca Noker, and she declined any comment when asked about the matter.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know, here's the problem. Maybe this solves it. Words mean something. And, hey, it's Wiener Wednesday. Does not constitute harassment there. Maybe it's that simple. I would agree with maybe it's that simple.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what, Matthew, during the next break, go down the hall to hr.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

And ask.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Ask her tomorrow.

[Kenny Olson]

No, ask her. Is Wiener Wednesday acceptable in community communications in the company?

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Rookie/Assistant]

And that is including if we're having a cookout for real. Because that's what they said.

[John Height]

Right. A woman was bringing in hot dogs every Wednesday.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I will ask that during the next

[Kenny Olson]

break because I have a feeling. I have a feeling that it's not allowable. That's my sense.

[Rookie/Assistant]

And I will go down there to HR if Joe will give me the name of the. One of the ladies that works in human research.

[Kenny Olson]

Just one name, Joe. Just one name.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Michelle Ott of course he was just going to say it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Michelle yes, yeah.

[John Height]

Chairman of the Minnesota Republican Party is asking the state to clarify who meets residency rules to run for office as questions around Mike Lindell. In a letter obtained by 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS, Republican Party Chair Alex Plekish asked the Minnesota Secretary of State to clarify residency requirements for candidates. Pluckish wrote that his request is tied to public question questions about the eligibility of Lindell. Right now, he is the party's leading gubernatorial candidate. He said his request is prompted by serious questions that have been raised publicly regarding the eligibility of Lindell. He also said it's essential that Minnesotans know the correct standard before primary day, which is next week, August 11th. The questions center on Lindell's previous residency in Texas and how long he's been a resident of Minnesota. However, a spokesperson for the Minnesota Secretary of State says that office office doesn't have jurisdiction to investigate residency issues. Peter Bartz Gallagher is communications director for Secretary of State Steve Simon. He said aside from the filing process, our office has no enforcement or investigative authority as to a candidate's residence and cannot offer any legal opinion or residency requirements. He said the Minnesota Supreme Court is where any residency dispute would have to be handled. In response to all of this, Lindell told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS in an interview last night that he has pay stubs proving he's been working and paying taxes in Minnesota since August of 2025. Alcohol believed to be a factor in a forced lake crash that left a state trooper and another person seriously injured. Forest Lake police said that at 5:35 in the afternoon Sunday they responded to a two vehicle crash on I35 just south of 220th Street North. Minnesota State Patrol added one of its squad cars and Lexus were involved in the crash. Both the state trooper and the driver were brought to the hospital, both drivers suffering serious injuries. Authorities said the state trooper was parked in the median bypass of I35 conducting stationary speed enforcement. Forest Lake police stated the Lexus was going north on the interstate when it hit the side of the parked squad. Preliminary evidence suggests alcohol was a factor in the crash. Forest Lake Police Department continues to investigate that crash. A Faribault man is facing charges for allegedly stealing a flock camera and trying to take it apart.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why is it called a flock because it gathers multiple images?

[Rookie/Assistant]

It's a good question.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you.

[John Height]

Nobody knows apparently. 42 year old Justin Lee Campbell was charged in Rice county last week of one count each of interfering with emergency communications theft and fourth degree property damage. Law enforcement first learned a Flock camera had been stolen from the intersection of Lindale Avenue south and Highland Place in Faribault in the overnight hours of July 27 after a man called to report the theft, according to the criminal complaint. The court records say the man is a Faribault shop employee who contacted police to report that Campbell had brought a Flock camera into the store and was bragging about stealing it and his intent to take it apart. The employee also told police Campbell had come into the store hours before the theft, spoke about Flock cameras and said, I think I might just take one. Law enforcement executed a search warrant at Campbell's property, where Campbell led officers to the camera. Said he had found it lying on the side of the road. Campbell is due in courts for a first appearance on October.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Kenny, go ahead.

[Kenny Olson]

Like Matthew's about to say, it's the brand Flock safety.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Ah.

[Kenny Olson]

But now, much like Kleenex, everybody calls a camera a flock.

[Joe Soucheray]

I see.

[Kenny Olson]

Just like Kleenex is all often used in place of tissue.

[John Height]

Why don't we.

[Kenny Olson]

There you go.

[John Height]

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[John Height]

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[Kenny Olson]

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[Matthew]

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[Joe Soucheray]

Rookie John, I'm sorry, we're gonna go to Rook. He did make a trip during the break. He went to hr and you asked what question?

[Rookie/Assistant]

I said hr just where are the cookies? Yeah, where are the pens and cookies? I said if I, I come in here and say we're having a cookout tomorrow and I say is it weiner? It's Wiener Wednesday tomorrow. Can that be considered offensive? Well, of course, the first guy pleaded the fifth, the guy in the far right, he said, ah, that's not for me.

[Kenny Olson]

That's above my pay grade.

[Rookie/Assistant]

So I did talk to Michelle, and Michelle said, that is not offensive if you leave it like that. I know if you start to go, it's kind of 50, 50 a wink, wink, nudge, nudge, and it's Wiener Wednesday. Hey, hey, hey, hey. That can be. That can be offensive to some. So it depends on, are you. Is one person offended?

[Joe Soucheray]

Context.

[Kenny Olson]

Here's the scenario.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Context would be better.

[Kenny Olson]

Here's the scenario. Hey, have you been down to the cookout yet? And the other employee says, I've already been wienered.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, you have to go back.

[Rookie/Assistant]

No, that's not. No, that's probably not. Unless you go, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I'm trying to get in your face.

[Kenny Olson]

What we've learned working there for many, many years is the rules that everybody else in the building has to live by aren't. Aren't a problem in radio, right?

[Rookie/Assistant]

We don't have to.

[Kenny Olson]

Anything goes in radio.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, there's one problem with that. We're not on radio.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Well, on the show, that's when they just dismissed me and said, but you guys get to say whatever you want anyway. You go back to the your cage there.

[Kenny Olson]

It's about it.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, she didn't just say Wiener Wednesday. She had an emoji with a cop wrapped up in a hot dog bun or some damn thing.

[Rookie/Assistant]

So that to Michelle's point, that was

[Joe Soucheray]

she probably in that context that could be construed.

[Kenny Olson]

But is it directing?

[Joe Soucheray]

But it's not to me. I'm just saying in your modern world of hr, you can call that sexual harassment.

[Rookie/Assistant]

But Michelle's point was if was it. It's directed at someone, then it can be construed as sexual harassment. If you just say that and it's out in the open, it's not at all.

[Kenny Olson]

I have a feeling we're all going to be watching the video again. We'll all get the memo before the close of business.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Who was the judge that we had to watch with the sexual harassment video?

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't know.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Not McDougal.

[Joe Soucheray]

I don't think I had to watch it.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, upstairs we called him the judge.

[Joe Soucheray]

I didn't watch it. I don't like those things. Here we go.

[John Height]

Here's John in national international news. You talked about this yesterday, Joe. Michigan voters head to the polls today for statewide races, including the most expensive Democratic Senate primary in United States history. The winner will face Republican Mike Rogers in November for the seat being vacated by Democratic Senator Gary peters. More than $60 million has been spent on the Democratic primary with pro Israel lobby AIPAC directing about 30 million to support four term Rep. Haley Stevens. Stevens has highlighted her work on former President Obama's recession era bailout for Detroit's automobile industry. She faces Abdul El Said, a former Detroit public health official who emphasizes a progressive agenda including Medicare for all. He's endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America. The race is largely seen as a referendum on Israel. A recent poll found nearly 60% of Democrats, including El Said, believe the party is too supportive of that country. Latest polls largely show him leading Stevens. A recent poll though found him trailing the Republican Rogers by about 10 points. Polls also show a closer race would happen between Rogers and Stevens.

[Joe Soucheray]

John, how much was spent?

[John Height]

60 million.

[Joe Soucheray]

And that's the largest Senate race expenditure in history?

[John Height]

Correct.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay, stop and ask yourself a question that should prove to you that the third rail has nothing to do with the rest of us. This is so important to the party. They don't care about the guy down the block in the $350,000 house and he's scraping together money to buy a new lawnmower. They have nothing to do with that guy. Nothing. This is all about them and their party and who can rule. It has nothing to do with us. Zero.

[John Height]

Well, 30 million of that did come from AIPAC. They're the Israeli lobby.

[Joe Soucheray]

Right. And we don't live in Israel. So introducing Israel to this has nothing to do with us. Nothing.

[John Height]

Economic news Pretty much a repeat of yesterday on Wall Street. US Stocks jumping this morning, all time highs being hit while investors digest corporate earnings, reassess bets on artificial intelligence and monitor developments in the Middle East. Stocks got another BO and oil prices fell after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant told CNBC early this morning he thinks a deal to open the Strait of Hormuz could happen today or tomorrow. As of this hour, the Dow Jones is up almost a thousand points, the Nasdaq up almost 700 and the S&P up 140. Speaking of the Strait of Hormuz and the Middle east conflict, Iran and Oman are closing in on an agreement to reopen shipping traffic in the Strait, according to Iranian and American officials. But if the accord goes into, it could come at a high price, ratifying Iran's control over what before the war was an open international waterway. As described by officials familiar with the accord, vessels heading into the Persian Gulf would transit a channel controlled by Iran and close to its coast. Close to its coast, ships leaving the Gulf would travel on a channel near Oman. Iranian Iranian official said that while there would be no tolls charged, the agreement would include a service fee to cover an environmental impact of the shipping security for the cargo ships and tankers. Revenues would be divided equally between Iran and Oman. Wall Street Journal reporting President Trump has talked about ousting Jeanine Pirro, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, according to people familiar with the matter, after her office contradicted the president's contention that the Lincoln Memorial reflecting pool was damaged by vandals. President criticizing Pirro in public and in since her office on Friday dropped its case against the three time Olympian it charged with damaging the reflecting pool. In a court filing, Pirro's office wrote that new information showed the problems that plagued the newly renovated pool were caused by botched installation and not vandalism. The president has told advisers he's angry about that and feels betrayed by the court filing. The president and Pirro met behind closed doors at the White House late yesterday. The president and his allies have insisted for months that vandals were to blame for damage at the pool, which the administration had resurfaced ahead of America's 250th birthday party.

[Joe Soucheray]

There's the problem. How can you believe in a guy whose sense of betrayal means only to him? If you don't do what I want you to do, that's betrayed. To hell with evidence. You can't run a country this way.

[John Height]

Former 60 Minutes correspondent Sharon Alfonsi and Scott Pelham have landed new roles at Columbia Journalism School just two months after being pushed out during the overhaul of CBS News led by Barry Weiss. Columbia announcing yesterday that Ofonzi and Peli will serve as journalists in residence during the upcoming academic year, where they will mentor students, deliver lectures and contribute to the Columbia Journalism Review. The appointment follows a high profile shakeup at 60 Minutes where Weiss oversaw major changes and Peli was dismissed in early June after publicly challenging CBS News leadership over the editorial direction of cbs. The two journalists will also take part in a public conversation moderated by Cobb on November 11th where they'll talk about major investigations from their careers, ethical challenges they faced and lessons learned over decades of journalism.

[Joe Soucheray]

You know we have an ice maker in our refrigerator. Yeah, yeah, and it's sick branch.

[Kenny Olson]

The

[Joe Soucheray]

water that that's required to make the ice cubes, apparently that's leaking. Okay, so I got on the floor today. Now we're going in and you got to remove the kick plate, the bottom of the refrigerator. To see. And I don't even know what I'm going to look for, but I'm looking for something.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Your coil.

[Joe Soucheray]

And so to access the screws to the kick plate, had to open the bottom drawer of the refrigerator, which was a freezer type drawer where the ice cubes happened to be. And then I slid under that and I got stuck under there.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Oh, my God.

[Josh Arnold]

An open.

[Joe Soucheray]

Open drawer. See?

[Kenny Olson]

And I. I just see two legs kicking out.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's what happened. And I said, the wicked witch said to her, pull my legs. Grab my legs and pull me. Hey, now. And no, nobody was there to help. And I had to. I was doing a lot of slithering.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

To just try to get out from under. See, I'm under the drawer that's now open. And I'm under that on the floor so I could get the two top screen screws to the kick plate. And I got it off and found nothing, by the way.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Nothing. Did you. Did you vacuum it out then?

[Joe Soucheray]

I'm going to.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Okay, good.

[Kenny Olson]

How did you end up diagnosing that it was the ice cube maker? And how do you know it wasn't the freezer? Let me tell you something. Is there a dial somewhere, Joe, that can controls the temperature of both the freezer and the refrigerator? Find that dial, if it exists, you might have a newer one. And just turn that dial, turn it up to 10, turn it down to 0, then reset it. Do that for both of them. Sometimes those switches get sticky and it leaks. It leads to problems with your freezer. And your freezer will start acting funky.

[Joe Soucheray]

You gotta keep dials. There's.

[John Height]

But.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Okay. Dean's Home Services.

[Kenny Olson]

Matthew is just. It's something I just learned within the last couple of weeks and it blew me away. Find buttons, just raise the temperature, drop the temperature and put it back to normal.

[Rookie/Assistant]

First of all, your term was off because he was in the ice box. He was under the ice.

[Joe Soucheray]

The ice maker button is now turned off. That has not stopped.

[Rookie/Assistant]

You got the lever. So it's not. Oh, so it's not making ice. So it's not filtering ice water to the ice machine maker. And it's.

[Kenny Olson]

It might be a freezer problem and it might be something easily corrected.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I ain't getting under there again. I like it.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Do it again.

[Kenny Olson]

I like the visual of Joe slithering.

[Joe Soucheray]

I had to do a lot of

[Kenny Olson]

slithering on his back. Right.

[Joe Soucheray]

So it's like you're crawling underneath.

[Kenny Olson]

Like you're crawling under a Studebaker the

[Joe Soucheray]

drawer is right here.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yeah, I know someone on the staff that it would. He would never do this, even if it was this last day on Earth. And that's John Haidt because of his claustrophobia.

[John Height]

That would be tough.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

I might as well have been in a cat scam.

[Rookie/Assistant]

That's what I'm saying. That's a tough, tough deal.

[Joe Soucheray]

Didn't bother me. It did bother me to be stuck,

[Rookie/Assistant]

but wasn't it cold, too?

[Joe Soucheray]

Very cold.

[Kenny Olson]

Joe, you make great sacrifices for your family.

[Joe Soucheray]

I do. Thank you, Kenny, for recognizing that there's

[Josh Arnold]

a series of videos in which stepmoms usually get stuck trying to do that very thing that you're talking about.

[Joe Soucheray]

Stepmom?

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah. Then the stepson's got to help her try to get out of that situation.

[Kenny Olson]

What websites are you on?

[Matthew]

Wow.

[Joe Soucheray]

Why would a stepmother get stuck any

[Kenny Olson]

more than her Joe, Maybe stop asking questions. You might want to stop, but Chris just gave me a great idea. You should do a series of home repair videos.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Great idea.

[Josh Arnold]

I love it. Hey, let's go to that bathroom.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Hey, by the way, I got texted from our. The big boss.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah?

[Rookie/Assistant]

And she says it was Judge McDonough.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, McDonough. Of course.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I was thinking McDougal, but that was John the news guy. This is Judge McDonough. We had.

[Kenny Olson]

So she's listening right now.

[Rookie/Assistant]

No, Matt texted her. No, I texted her.

[Josh Arnold]

She's probably in some corporate.

[Rookie/Assistant]

She's probably in something. And all the forecasts are this.

[Joe Soucheray]

Probably in Spain or something.

[Kenny Olson]

I'm just relieved to know that she's

[Josh Arnold]

not listening, especially if the last.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, this show.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[John Height]

There's a brand new title topping the list for the all time biggest domestic opening weekend at the box office. This past weekend, Spider Man, Brand New Day debuted and it made 360 million.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Are you part of that show? You. You a dime in there?

[Joe Soucheray]

No, but I can tell you something. Pat and I had a big discussion yesterday about the movie the Odyssey. Oh.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, God.

[Joe Soucheray]

Okay.

[Kenny Olson]

Homer's Odyssey.

[Joe Soucheray]

Do you know what an Iliad is?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

What is it?

[Kenny Olson]

You tell me. If you know.

[Joe Soucheray]

And see, there was a poem called the Iliad.

[Kenny Olson]

That's a story. It's a.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a long. An Iliad is a. Is a story.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, I didn't know that till yesterday. Reaver had to look it up for us. I thought Iliad was a guy.

[Kenny Olson]

What kind of backwater hillbilly?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, I thought Illiad and Odyssey were two guys.

[Josh Arnold]

In fact, the conversation started on Monday Night Sports Tech yesterday by Joe saying Who is Ilya?

[Joe Soucheray]

I wanted to know who Elliot is

[Josh Arnold]

and I say who is like Rockford.

[Joe Soucheray]

I just want to know who he is. A couple, couple of guys down in

[Rookie/Assistant]

Royce he said he played in AAA Toledo. He brought up on right by the Odyssey. Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

So that that movie's out there too.

[John Height]

The they're expected actually now on or with the follow up weeks to be neck and neck for a while. Even though Spider man was huge this weekend. Much bigger than the Odyssey.

[Kenny Olson]

I got to tell you, I was pretty crabby until you just admitted that. Now you've turned my day around.

[Joe Soucheray]

All right. I'm here to help people.

[Kenny Olson]

Helping people. A buddy movie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah.

[John Height]

Brand New Day globally almost made a billion dollars. It's called what did Brand New Day. The Spider man movie. Movie.

[Joe Soucheray]

Oh, I thought that was a different movie than the Spider Man.

[John Height]

No, it's called Spider Man. Brand New Day.

[Joe Soucheray]

Spider man doesn't do much for me.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, that's a dumb premise.

[John Height]

That's my favorite comic.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, what's that say about you?

[John Height]

I don't know. A Florida man has officially been named the world's youngest male professor. Guinness World Records announced in a news release. Nathan Thomas became the youngest male professor ever accepting an engineering teaching position at Miami Dade College at the age of 18 years and 346 days old. The previous title was held for 306 years by Colin McLaren, who was 19 when he became a professor. Thomas is 16 days younger than the current holder of the world's youngest female professor, Aliyah sabour. She was 18 years 362 days old when she became a professor in 2008. Thomas at the age of 18 is teaching COP 2270, let's see. For engineers to students in the same age as him at Miami Dade College.

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought you're gonna say he was nine or something, you know, 18. I'll take that.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh really?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yeah.

[John Height]

He was 10 though when he dual enrolled at the same time.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yeah, but it's a community college.

[John Height]

Likewood before he transferred to Florida International at 14. In the four years that followed, by the age of 18, he earned his bachelor's and master's degrees in electrical engineering, both with honors. Thomas came from a family of engineers. Said math has always clicked for him growing up, which led to his interest in engineering.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thanks, John.

[John Height]

Yes sir.

[Joe Soucheray]

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[Rookie/Assistant]

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[Joe Soucheray]

because they come to us all the way from Marleth park in Pumalonga, South Africa. From the traveling lineman's@worldwide loftage.com it was on this day, Joe.

[Josh Arnold]

Today is August 4th.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on this day in 1854, Congress approved legislation guaranteeing preemption for Minnesota settler colonists squatting on lands that had not been surveyed. Technically, the land could be sold only after being surveyed, but whites had poured into lands purchased from the Dakota and Ojibwe, sometimes making substantial improvements before the surveyors completed their work. The act sponsored by delegate Henry H. Sibley allowed the settler colonists to purchase their land after the fact of settlement. Okay, on this day, August 4th, in 1857, one of a series of arson fires in St. Paul destroyed virtually all the buildings between Market, St. Peter, 3rd street and 4th Street. The fires led to looting and citizens formed a vigilance committee to patrol the streets. Wow, man. It was on this day, Joe.

[Josh Arnold]

Today is August 4th.

[Joe Soucheray]

On this day in 1892, on St. Paul's west side, heavy rains created a lake behind the landfill near Page and Brown streets. When the dam gave way, three people died in the resulting flood. That must have been a hell of a big pool of water.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I'll say.

[Kenny Olson]

When the levee broke.

[Joe Soucheray]

Yep. On this day, August 4th in 1916, Amos Owen was born in Sisseton Reservation, South Dakota. He moved to the Prairie Island Indian reservation at age 16 and later became a prominent spiritual leader, tribal chairman and pipe carrier of the Dakota, working to broker understanding between native and non native people. He died on June 4, 1990. On this day in Minnesota. Sports disappointment, history.

[Josh Arnold]

Joe, who'd we lose to on August 4th?

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on this day in 1984, Les Steckle coached his first game for the Vikings, having replaced Bud Grant. Doesn't say who won or lost. It must have been a practice game. Exhibition game. On this day, Aug.4, 1985, baseball related, involving Rod Carew.

[Josh Arnold]

What year?

[Joe Soucheray]

1985. He would have been playing for the Angels.

[Josh Arnold]

3,000th hit.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's right. Carew got his 3,000th hit. 3,000th hit.

[Josh Arnold]

Off Viola.

[Joe Soucheray]

Off Viola playing the Twins.

[Josh Arnold]

Ken Herbeck was at first, then the Powder Blues on.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Joe Soucheray]

Were you there?

[Josh Arnold]

No, I just remember the video.

[Joe Soucheray]

So Rodney, you know, he went to the Angels in free agency and he came back and during a game in Minnesota. On this day.

[Josh Arnold]

It was in California.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, on this day he got his 3,000th hit, but it happened to be the Twins and Frank Viola served it up.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yes.

[Joe Soucheray]

I'll be damned.

[Rookie/Assistant]

August 4th in 1984, Atlanta Falcons were the opponent. The Vikings beat them 376 at the Metrodome with the 50,000, 51,000 people in attendance.

[Joe Soucheray]

So an exhibition game and Les Steckel kicked off his very brief career with a victory.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Then he lost the next three preseasons and lost the first two opening games. And it just didn't fare well for the game.

[Joe Soucheray]

Whatever happened to him?

[Rookie/Assistant]

He ended up as the running backs coach for the Buffalo Bills. So he ended his career.

[Joe Soucheray]

So he's done now.

[Rookie/Assistant]

He is done.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where do they find that twerp?

[Rookie/Assistant]

That it does not say. Where did they.

[Joe Soucheray]

Where did he come from? Where did he come from? That was a. It was crazy. Yeah, just crazy.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Oh, man, it's crazy.

[Joe Soucheray]

He had him dressed in 2003 was

[Rookie/Assistant]

his last year as the running backs coach for the Bills.

[Joe Soucheray]

Well, maybe he's enjoying a great retirement.

[Kenny Olson]

Do you think today will be noted next year in Minnesota history as the day that Kenny taught Joe about Greek literature and history?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yeah, I think it will be noted next year.

[Joe Soucheray]

Better be the Iliad. Neodice. Iliad is a long poem.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Who is Iliad?

[Joe Soucheray]

I thought Iliad was. Was a guy, you know, I. Homer was the guy.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. What? What is. Tell me what the Odyssey is.

[Joe Soucheray]

That's a trip they take.

[Kenny Olson]

That's Homer's home. Matthew even explained a little bit there too.

[Rookie/Assistant]

What is the oddity? Odd. Very.

[Joe Soucheray]

Thank you. Gl.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Pe.

[Kenny Olson]

Good luck, Joe.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Thank you.

[John Height]

Sure.

[Josh Arnold]

Do us a favor if you have not done so already. Mr. President. You join the Garage Logic YouTube subscription?

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yes.

[Josh Arnold]

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[John Height]

Yeah.

[Rookie/Assistant]

Yes.

[Josh Arnold]

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[Rookie/Assistant]

tomorrow it's Wiener Wednesday.

[Matthew]

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

[Rookie/Assistant]

I mean you.

[Josh Arnold]

It is time once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in Garage Logic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay, do exactly what I did and pick up that phone and dial 952-925-5608. That phone number once again is 952-925-5608. When you pick up that phone and you make that call, you are going to get Josh and he is there for you like he has been for decades for that. Free. Yes, I said free. 48 minute financial consultation. And again with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here. Rod's Logic and Boy Josh on the market today. Caterpillar and Palantir, they're leading the way. And there's some big news on McDonald's right now.

[Matthew]

We'll start with McDonald's, McDonald's Mac and Don Supper Club. So that a big turnaround has already been happening as McDonald's beat beat the street raises some estimates and says come see us. The french fries and the milkshake are tremendous and we might even find a little bit of Meat between the bun. Donald Stock is up $2.71 as it starts move regaining some of the we'll say momentum that it lost. So McDonald's is still we'll say the leader in, in fast food over overall and people are still flocking to McDonald's we'll say for the french fries and the milkshake. Not to mention of course old favorite Coca Cola is poured from their, their tap. Meantime, on the artificial intelligence front, Caterpillar. Who thought the Caterpillar is involved with artificial intelligence? Well you gotta as Andrew Drassy of Amazon said on, on their conference call last week explaining artificial intelligence and the money invested by Amazon, other companies build out first the infrastructure and then the compute part. So there's two parts to AI. One, you have to build the infrastructure. To build the infrastructure you've got to build buildings. And to build buildings, well you're going to need Caterpillar machines among other we'll say industrial products to build the buildings. Clear the land and build the building. Caterpillar also provides backup generators to help power up those buildings. So Caterpillar not only is moving while say is primarily moving on the massive build out for artificial intelligence. And Caterpillar's earnings have have shown that that Caterpillar stock which has been moving wildly has moved back up just under $900 a share. And on the earnings it's up 7% probably chasing away several short sellers. But jazzy continues. First part AI is building the data centers. The infrastructure behind that second part is building up the compute. And here's where the need for I'll say the need for chip and memory come in as well as serv and software. You can add different layers to that and Amazon participates in all of those, those areas. Hence my I'll say love of Amazon. And a company that's benefiting we'll say from all of this is Palantir company that has had a huge, huge short, short position as many, many market players have bet against the company primarily on its, on its valuation which has always been high. And secondarily, secondarily they, they believe or have believed that Palantir is going to be replaced by AI companies like Anthropic and OpenAI. I've said sorry Charlie, I don't think many of these software companies are going to be replaced by Anthropic or OpenAI particularly companies with proprietary, we'll say proprietary software and the ability to utilize AI to help I'll say commercial businesses as well as government agencies. Palantir started in 2003 primarily as a private company working with government contracts and they have extended into the commercial space and the commercial space is growing even faster than their long term government contracts. Of course there are several governments that want to want to get out of their contracts with with Palantir, primarily the French and the British. Because Palantir is an American company. Both the British and the French are having issues with the current administration. That said, Palantir, I'll say knock the COVID off the ball and with the number of short sellers out there having to cover their shorts as the stock went up, Palantir stock has rocketed today up 28%. I'll say. If you had purchased a lot of shares of Palantir at lower prices, I would recommend taking a little bit off the table and let the balance run. I still am of the belief that Palantir can eventually go back to its old high, which is just under $200 a share, but it's not going to be a straight up move. So again with Palantir, don't be afraid to take a little bit off the table and pocket some of those profits on this big rally. Not only on excellent numbers but also on short covering.

[Josh Arnold]

Excellent advice as always, Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G ers. Now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minutes financial consultation and again with absolutely zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 9255608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, once again, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.

[Matthew]

Okay, thanks.

[Josh Arnold]

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[Joe Soucheray]

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