BEST OF GL: Former MN Gov Jesse Ventura joins us in Garage Logic

Summary

Garage Logic: "Best of GL – Former MN Gov Jesse Ventura Joins Us in Garage Logic"

Podcast: Garage Logic
Host: Joe Soucheray, with Chris Reivers, Rookie, John Heidt, Kenny Olson
Guest: Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura
Date: May 8, 2026 (Originally recorded November 2020)
Episode: #500

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Episode Overview

This "Best Of" Garage Logic episode features a lively, wide-ranging interview with Jesse Ventura, former governor of Minnesota, pro-wrestler, broadcaster, and perennial independent iconoclast. Hosted by Joe Soucheray ("The Mayor") and his Garage Logic crew, the conversation explores Ventura’s experiences in politics, his media career, thoughts on the state of America, his controversial work with Russian Television (RT), personal stories, and his unfiltered perspectives on recent events and the future of politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ventura's Relationship with U.S. Media and RT

• Ventura details his ongoing boycott of U.S. media following the Chris Kyle (American Sniper) defamation lawsuit and settlement.
• He explains why he prefers working for RT (Russian Television), citing freedom, respect, vacation, and healthcare that he was denied in the U.S.
  • "[RT] are about the best company I've ever worked for." – Ventura (12:22)
  • He met with Putin, who personally assured non-interference with his show.
• Ventura expresses anger at being required to register as a "foreign agent," calling it an outrage for a Navy veteran and former governor (15:32).

2. Chris Kyle Lawsuit & Unjust Enrichment

• Ventura gives a detailed account of his lawsuit victory and subsequent loss on appeal, citing media conglomerate opposition and unjust enrichment law implications.
  • "The media can lie about anybody, profit from it, and face no penalty for doing it financially." (8:08)
• He frames this as a precursor to "fake news" and growing media distrust.

3. COVID-19, Government, and Public Attitudes

• Ventura critiques then-President Trump's pandemic response, especially dishonesty and lack of military discipline.
  • "If Donald Trump had been the commanding officer of my underwater demolition team, he would have been relieved of his command... probably face a court martial and Portsmouth Naval Prison." (18:32)
• He laments public refusal to wear masks, highlighting his mother (a WWII nurse) and making an analogy with other public health mandates.
  • "All we're being asked to do is wear a lousy mask and distance yourself." (20:08)

4. Political Polarization and Two-Party System

• Ventura blames party loyalty over the public good for America's deep divisions and governmental dysfunction.
  • "Ralph Nader had it right when he called it the 'two-party dictatorship.'" (27:02)
• He describes how, after initial independence, the Minnesota legislature united across party lines to oppose him after his first term.

5. Reflections on His Governorship

• Ventura remains proud of initiating light rail transit in the Twin Cities, arguing it's essential for urban vitality (23:08).
• He touches on Minnesota’s mass transit past, regrets not achieving a unicameral (single-house) legislature, and jokes about selling his Porsches for Teslas (26:13).

6. Running for Office and Presidential Politics

• On not running for a second term: mixed feelings, particularly about failing to get unicameral legislature (22:39).
• He explains his disillusionment with both Trump and Biden, citing hypocrisy, party machinations, and missed opportunities for true independence.
  • "The difference between me and Trump is what? I tell the truth." (70:16)

7. Third-Party Candidacy and Debate Exclusion

• Ventura details Ross Perot’s 1996 exclusion from debates by Republican and Democratic collusion (27:19).
• Expresses frustration at the structural barriers for third parties in U.S. politics.

8. Marijuana Legalization and Personal Health

• Ventura is vocal about legal cannabis, crediting it with saving his wife's life from late-onset seizures after conventional medicine failed:
  • "Cannabis has changed and given me my life back. Without it, my life would be gone right now." (57:03)
• He rails against Minnesota's restrictive and expensive medical cannabis laws (59:36).

9. Personal Memories and Upbringing

• Shares a story about his Depression-era father hiding thousands under the carpet, only for carpet installers to find it (53:01).
• Discusses his humble, “latchkey kid” upbringing and how it shaped his drive and independence.

10. Media, Censorship, and His MSNBC Experience

• Reveals MSNBC signed him for a show after his governorship but canceled it pre-launch due to his anti-Iraq War stance – but paid him out on his contract, funding his house in Mexico (71:01).
  • Considered naming the house "Casa MSNBC."
• He sees this as evidence of governmental control over media narratives.

11. Reflections on Minnesota and Life Abroad

• Admits lasting winters only for his wife's family; prefers his Mexico residence where property taxes drop 20% for early payment and in half after age 65 (86:07).
• Loves "the best lawn on the block," old Minneapolis-St. Paul rivalries, and classic American cars.

12. Personal Philosophy and Fitness

• Credits isolation during the pandemic for renewed focus on fitness: "I'm in the best shape I've been in in 10 years." (96:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On U.S. Media and RT:
  • "I figure, hell, I'd rather go with the people that pay me than to work for the media who stuck it to me... The hell with them." – Ventura (8:42)
  • "When I went to Russia, Vladimir Putin... introduced himself, held out his hand. He said, 'Thank you, Governor.' I said, 'You're welcome, Mr. President.' He said, 'I want to assure you I will never interfere in your show in any way.'" (11:13)
• On Party Politics:
  • "It's a two party dictatorship... The whole system is set up to keep any third entity out of the game." (27:02)
• On Masks and COVID-19:
  • "All we're being asked to do is wear a lousy mask... My mom spent her entire adult working life wearing a mask." (20:08)
  • "Your liberty stops the moment you infringe upon mine." (20:28)
• On Trump, Biden, and Leadership:
  • "When Trump found out in January how deadly this thing was... he would have been relieved of his command." (18:32)
  • "What do you think of Joe Biden? I don't much." (33:07)
  • "The difference between me and Trump is what? I tell the truth." (70:16)
• Personal Anecdotes:
  • "My dad’s hiding place for cash was under the carpet." (53:01)
  • "The better one was the first time we got him [dad] to try pot." (56:26)
• On Censorship:
  • "They pulled the plug on the whole show... because we opposed the invasion of Iraq. Tell me why I should trust mainstream media when they're clearly under the control of the government." (74:04)
• On Legalization:
  • "We’re standing on the dock, watching the ship leave the harbor. We're on the dock and the ship’s leaving.” (59:07)
• On Cuba & Castro:
  • "Castro and I became friends... The first thing he told me was it was an inside job." [on JFK assassination] (90:41)
  • "A friend of Cuba will always be a friend of Cuba." (94:09)
• On Civic Engagement:
  • "You complain a lot, but they're not going to listen unless you become a player... If you're not an active player... they're going to ignore you... from now until you're old." (44:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Opening, reference to episode and why it’s a Best Of | 02:01–02:55| | Ventura on the Chris Kyle case and U.S. media | 04:56–08:42| | Experience with RT, Putin, and being a "foreign agent" | 08:42–17:25| | COVID-19 response and mask attitudes | 17:40–20:28| | On political division and the 2-party system | 20:50–28:17| | Light rail & transportation in MN | 23:07–25:35| | Selling Porsches, going electric | 26:09–26:21| | Why major parties block outsiders (Ross Perot example) | 27:19–28:17| | Trump, McCain, and military service | 29:10–33:03| | The Squad and representation | 34:27–36:46| | On not running for re-election, regrets | 22:34–22:46| | Legalization and medical cannabis story | 56:50–59:36| | On upbringings, family, and the hidden cash story | 52:14–55:39| | MSNBC show canceled over Iraq opposition | 71:01–76:51| | Cuba, Castro, and JFK assassination talk | 89:34–94:53| | Reflections on being Governor and entering politics | 67:04–67:46| | Fitness and pandemic routines | 96:05–96:19| | Final gratitude, pandemic advice, goodbyes | 97:07–97:28|

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Unfiltered, candid, and conversational: Ventura doesn’t hold back, blending seriousness with humor and occasional cynicism.
• Garage Logic's "everyman" sensibility: Joe and the crew ask both tough and light-hearted questions, inviting longtime listeners into local in-jokes and nostalgia.
• Blend of policy, personal anecdotes, and culture war analysis.

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Summary Takeaway

This epic interview showcases Jesse Ventura at his most iconoclastic and unguarded. From scathing indictments of the U.S. media and two-party system to personal tales of family and principled stances on marijuana legalization, former Governor Ventura combines storytelling, populist outrage, and wit. His views on pandemic response, American decline, and media corruption will provoke and amuse. For listeners both nostalgic for Ventura’s Minnesota era and curious about his outsider take on today’s America, this episode delivers memorable moments from a true GL “character.”

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Memorable Sign-off:
"Please tell people as much as you can to wear the masks. My God, let's get through this thing and get back to normal life in Minnesota." – Jesse Ventura (97:10)

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For first-timers and longtime fans, this episode captures the best of Garage Logic’s blend of local color, irreverence, and insightful conversation with an American original.

Transcript

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[Jesse Ventura]

Hi, Joe. How are you?

[Joe Susher]

You want me to call you Jesse or Governor?

[Jesse Ventura]

Call me Governor.

[Joe Susher]

I'll call you Governor. How frequently in the last four years, and particularly maybe in the last year, have you been sought out for your commentary about what's taking place in the United States?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, surprisingly not a lot, Joe, because I kind of am totally boycotting United States media and have been for some time.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

And the reason for that is because I was involved in a lawsuit a few years ago, a defamation lawsuit and an unjust enrichment lawsuit, and won the case, the American Sniper case. One in front of a jury, one in front of a judge, and it went to the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals, where I find it to be corrupt, I find it to be horrible. They broke two of their major rules to overturn my case and take it away from the jury. And part of the reason was at that point of the trial, 32 major media conglomerates of the United States came into the case. Okay. To have it overturned.

[Joe Susher]

This is the Chris Kyle case that you've settled, by the way. It's over, Right?

[Jesse Ventura]

Right. Well, I was more or less forced to settle after they returned it for a second trial. And imagine this for a moment, Joe. How overwhelming must the evidence have been for the jury to fine for me against the dead war hero, his widow, and six of his buddies in uniform trying to convince the jury that the event happened when it didn't. And yet the jury found for me

[Joe Susher]

and the settlement, as I understand it, because you don't want to be painted as a bad guy. The settlement, as I understand it, did not come from Chris Kyle's widow.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, not at all. She was in no danger ever when he died. The legal system then automatically passed it to her.

[Joe Susher]

I got you.

[Jesse Ventura]

That's where it goes. She was in no danger. The book company and their insurance was. Were paying the freight for all of her lawyers, the expense, everything. And so basically, it was me against the insurance companies. But here's where the glitch came. I won a second thing called unjust enrichment, which is a Minnesota law. And what that means is that you can't go out and commit a wrongdoing and profit from would be like. Joe, let's say you and I, we got both clean records and we went out and robbed the bank, right?

[Joe Susher]

Yep.

[Jesse Ventura]

Okay, we get away with a million dollars, but we're a couple lunkheads. We have no experience.

[Joe Susher]

We get caught, how much would you get of the million?

[Jesse Ventura]

Hold on now. Now we then go. Go to jail, right? Okay, hypothetically, we're good criminals. We watch it. You know, we're good. We get probation after three years. Okay, well, what the court then ruled is that we could then go get our money.

[Joe Susher]

Really?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah. Oh, that if you. If you spent a year, couple years in jail, you could keep the money you stole. All right, because what the media had to do here was unjust enrichment. This was catapulting to fake news. It opened the door for it or helped, because now they can lie about anybody, profit from it, and face no penalty for doing it financially.

[Joe Susher]

Well, if you haven't been approached frequently, I am anxious to seek your counsel on exactly. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know you were.

[Jesse Ventura]

I have not also been approached. See, I work for RT now, Russian Television, right? And I've been there four years and they pay me for my opinion, okay? So I figure, hell, I'd rather go with the people that pay me than to work for the media who stuck it to me. And now I get to help their ratings and make them money. The hell with them. I'm not gonna make them any money anymore. So I'm not talking to them. And I don't. Anything that I say I do through rt.

[Joe Susher]

But it's Russian.

[Jesse Ventura]

So what?

[Joe Susher]

It's the Ruskies, Jesse.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, let me put it to you this way, Joe.

[Joe Susher]

All right?

[Jesse Ventura]

They're about the best company I've ever worked for.

[Joe Susher]

Really?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah, they are. They, when I signed with them, they give me. They give me three months vacation, paid January, February and March to go to my home in Mexico, right? So who gets three months vacation?

[Joe Susher]

Not me.

[Jesse Ventura]

That's right.

[Rookie]

Joe only gets two and a half.

[Jesse Ventura]

Anyway, though, they also, during the course, when I signed with them, they offered me full health care, okay? And I declined it because I had it through the Screen Actors Guild. And I didn't want to create trouble because if you get two carriers, they're going to fight with each other, right? So I did not decline that. Well, part way through, I'm in Mexico, I get a letter from my 30 year reunion. Been a member for 30 years. Vested they pulled and took my health care from me because I wasn't working in the industry out in la. So I lost my health care. Now my wife and I gotta face something here. What do we do? Then it hit me. Wait a minute. RT offered me health care. I called them up, I told them the situation on my 30 year union just dumped me, I don't have my healthcare. Would there be a chance, could I reconsider and get it? The Russian lady goes, governor, I'll get back to you in about 10 days. I said thank you. She never did. In six days, Blue Cross Blue Shield cards arrived for my wife and I. Really? Yeah. So the Russians had no problem with giving me my health insurance. They also built a studio right in my basement. So during the pandemic it doesn't affect me work a bit because all I do is walk downstairs and hit three switches.

[Joe Susher]

Have you ever been to Russia?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yep.

[Joe Susher]

You have?

[Jesse Ventura]

I went over. They flew me over there. Before I signed, I went to this 10th anniversary of RT. It was the infamous one they all talk about. Let's see who Gorbachev was there, Putin was the keynote speaker, Jill Stein was there. Various other people I didn't see if General Flynn was there or not, I didn't notice him. I met Gorbachev that night. Here's an interesting note that took place, too. During my entire trial, the federal judges, in everything they wrote, they never once referred to me as governor. I was called Ventura. Yet when I went to Russia, Vladimir Putin walked all the way across the room to me, came over, introduced himself, held out his hand. He said, thank you, Governor. I said, you're welcome, Mr. President. He said, I want to assure you I will never interfere in your show in any way, shape or form. You have complete artistic control. I said, thank you. And for four years now, he's been a man of his word.

[Joe Susher]

All right.

[Jesse Ventura]

He has not interfered in my show. I can say anything I want. And they've been wonderful.

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[Joe Susher]

How do people see this show in America?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, the RT is the second largest in the world, following only the BBC. Okay, it depends if your carrier has it.

[Joe Susher]

All right?

[Jesse Ventura]

Now I get DirecTV where I'm at up here in White Bear and it's channel 321 on DirecTV. I don't know what it is on other carriers. I know some carry it, some don't. Here's the other good part, Joe, you'll enjoy. We have to register as foreign agents now. Where is our media on this? Where is our First Amendment outcry that we have to. I cannot go on the floor of Congress because I work for rt. I'm offended over that. I'm a Navy Vietnam veteran. I'm a mayor. I'm a governor. I've paid taxes to this country my entire life and I can't go on the floor of Congress because I work for rt.

[Joe Susher]

I'm unaware of that. I would think your American citizenship would trump that.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, the problem is this. You're unaware of it because our media won't talk about it because we're their rival and they don't want us here.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

Because we do a better job than they do. You know how I can prove that? Simple. I've interviewed for every media there is, national, local, whatever it might be. And they all got a little system, especially the national NBC, cbs, you know, CNN and all them. Yeah, they do what's called a pre interview, where they call you earlier in the day and they get you to talk so that they can then adjust the interview accordingly if they don't want you to talk about a certain thing they know and they can steer away from it. Well, we at rt, I can tell you we have never, ever done a pre interview.

[Joe Susher]

We have never either on Garage Logic.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I don't do them. I simply, Joe, I bring a guest on, I tell their credentials, I let the guest talk on the subject. And it's up to you, the listener, decide if you believe the person or not.

[Joe Susher]

You take Covid very seriously. You and I are about the same age. You take it very seriously. How would you have handled it if you were the President of the United States?

[Jesse Ventura]

How would I handle it?

[Joe Susher]

Yes. Yes, thank you.

[Jesse Ventura]

That's a good question. When it gets to those things, Joe, I go back to my military experience, all right? And in the military, you learn one thing, something our current president is unaware of, and that because he didn't serve, you know, he's a draft dodger. Right. Anyway, you learn that you have to do things sometimes that you don't particularly agree with. And you learn you have to do things that maybe you don't like, but you still do them. It's required you do them. You grit your teeth and get the job done. To me, this country should have. They were on the right. First of all, they shouldn't have been lied to.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

When Trump found out in January how deadly this thing was, let me put it to you this way, Joe. If Donald Trump would have been the commanding officer of my underwater demolition team, he would have been relieved of his command. He would never command again. He would probably face a court martial and Portsmouth Naval Prison. This is the commander in chief of our military. Now. He lied to the troops. He covered it up, and he did it for his own personal gain and put the people or his troops in danger for his own personal gain. If you did that as a commanding officer, they would take your command so fast your head would spin. You'd be court martialed and go to prison.

[Joe Susher]

So for starters, you would have been out front with the American public.

[Jesse Ventura]

Absolutely. Absolutely. You cannot take. You have to tell the truth, tell them what they need to do, and then, of course, they need to respond. And that's why I'm disappointed in the American people today because of the fact that my mom and dad were both World War II veterans. And not many people can say their mom was right. My mom served in North Africa before Normandy. And then the people truly had to suffer, and they had to. They had rationing. The people truly had to give up things.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

All we're being asked to do is wear a lousy mask.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

And distance yourself. My mom spent her entire adult working life wearing a mask. She was the head nurse in surgery at North Memorial Hospital. Right, right. I mean, come on. If masks don't work, why do they wear them in surgery? And are they required?

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

To stop germs. Simple. And yet we as a people have these phony baloney patriots they call themselves, who sit out there and say, I'm not going to wear a mask. Well, we have speed limits. We have other rules you have to follow. And your liberty stops the moment you infringe upon mine.

[Joe Susher]

What do you think of the divide in this country?

[Jesse Ventura]

It's horrifying.

[Joe Susher]

Could you solve it?

[Jesse Ventura]

I could have. If I'd have been elected president.

[Joe Susher]

How would you have solved it?

[Jesse Ventura]

Simple. Just get elected. No, I'll tell you why, Joe, you already saw the blueprint in Minnesota, right? Okay. Here's what had happened. I told people this. I said this is what would happen. They, meaning the Dems and Repubs, the two gangs. They need a common enemy. Okay. In Minnesota, when I won in 98, same situation, almost. I had a Democratic Senate and a Republican House. Whomever I aligned with generally prevailed. That worked until the third year. Then in the third year, they got in bed together. They started singing Kumbaya. I submitted the budget, which the governor has to do. They threw my budget out. They came back with their own budget. I looked at it. My key person, Pam Wheelock, their budget was horrible. It was a bad budget. It was bad. I vetoed it. They overrode my veto. They passed it over my head a second time. I vetoed it again. That's all I could do. And then they passed it. While I fooled them, I didn't run for reelection, so I didn't have to work under their budget. I left them with it. What happened in Minnesota after I left? You faced a $5 billion deficit, didn't you? Mm. Yeah. And that's the result of the Democrats and Republicans putting their parties before the

[Joe Susher]

People, do you regret not running for a second term? Do you regret not running for a second term, as you look back?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, yes and no. My only yes would be I always wanted to get unicameral one house.

[Joe Susher]

Yep.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I couldn't succeed in doing that in one term. I don't know if I could have a second term succeeded or not, because it's a big thing to do, you know, get rid of the Senate, basically.

[Joe Susher]

As governor, you were, if not the lead man, you were extremely influential in bringing light rail to the Twin Cities.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yep.

[Joe Susher]

Do you regret that?

[Jesse Ventura]

Not a bit. All right. Not a bit. And I'll tell you why. Why I did it. I went to Denver and I saw Denver so far in front of us. It's laughable. And when I went there, okay, economically, if businesses are going to come to the city of Minneapolis, say, first thing the business is going to say is, okay, where do our workers park? Well, yes, in my day, now maybe it's changed today, but let's go back to 2000. We would have had to answer nowhere. We're full because all the parking in Minneapolis was full. You couldn't get another car down there. What's the second business thing? The business is going to say, well, how's the mass transit? Well, we don't have any. Really. Well, then how do my people get to work if there's no parking and there's no mass transit? What do they take? Cabs. And so, you know, I looked at this. You cannot be a thriving metropolis in America without some form of mass transit. And Minneapolis, St. Paul was woefully behind. We had nothing because the mistake they made was done. Way back when I was a little kid, we used to have trolley cars that went all over this city.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

And they. And the gas industry and the car industry got us to tore them up, throw them out. And did you know our trolley cars are still running in New Jersey?

[Joe Susher]

Yeah, I had heard there are also

[Jesse Ventura]

some in Mexico maybe, I don't know. But it was a shame. And so my belief was, how can you be a thriving metropolitan area and not have some form of mass transit? Like New York has its subways, Chicago has its big trains that run all through town. Well, we at least needed something.

[Joe Susher]

But it's not thriving, sir. It's not paying for itself. It's not being ridden, really. Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, you know, what do you do about that?

[Joe Susher]

Clean up crime in the cities, I think.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I don't know that. All I can tell you is that without it, you had no parking spaces. In downtown Minneapolis. And you don't, you know, And I think it serves itself well to the dome and to all of the sports stadiums. It keeps drunk drivers off the road.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, hopefully. And hopefully it'll build up and do better. See, the thing is, you have to have an entire system to where you could get from, say, Lake Minnetonka to Stillwater for the afternoon and not drive your car.

[Joe Susher]

And Jesse, that's the way it used to be with the streetcars. Those were the exact destinations. Minnetonka to Stillwater.

[Jesse Ventura]

There you go. See, that's the mistake that was made. Joe was way back when. And then, of course, I should get you going now. You know, I'm getting rid of my entire. Basically my entire cylinder index.

[Joe Susher]

No, no.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, yeah. I'm going to paslo.

[Joe Susher]

You're going to what?

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm selling my Porsche. You want them?

[Joe Susher]

Oh, I'd certainly like to talk to you about it.

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm going to Tesla's.

[Joe Susher]

You are, huh?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, absolutely. It's there. The Tesla Roadster cannot be beaten.

[Joe Susher]

Kenny Olson would love to ask you a question, sir.

[Kenny Olson]

Governor, you touched on something briefly, and Joe changed the subject. You brought up loyalty to the party as opposed to loyalty to the people, which I kind of believe is part of the problem, that we're at such odds with each other right now. How do we change the fact that the Dems and the Republicans are loyal to the party and not to us? What do we do to change that?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, you have to stop electing them, which is virtually almost impossible because they've created a system that benefits only themselves.

[Joe Susher]

That's right.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, it's a two party. Ralph Nader had it right when he called it the two party dictatorship. And he's right on with that. And see, the whole system is set up to keep any third entity out of the game. Are you familiar what happened in the 90s with Ross Perot?

[Joe Susher]

Sure.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, it's an interesting story because Perot got one out of five votes in 92. Then in 96, he wasn't even allowed to debate. Why? Because Clinton and Dole cut a deal. Dole didn't want Perot in the debates because Perot eroded from his conservative base. Clinton didn't want debates at all because he was so far ahead he didn't need them. And so they cut him down to two debates. They were held by design on the same night as the World Series. And that was the deal that was cut. And Parot was then eliminated from debating. Can you imagine? You get One out of five votes in America the previous election, and no one's allowed to hear you four years later. It's amazing. See, that's what's got to happen. We have to take our government back from these two parties. I believe it was John Adams stated, one of our founding fathers, he said, when political parties take over the country, that'll be the end of the country.

[Joe Susher]

Are you. Have you been satisfied with the Trump presidency?

[Rookie]

Don't hold back, Governor.

[Joe Susher]

Don't hold back. I want to know what you think. That's why we're talking today.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, he had an opportunity to do some great things, and he accomplished a few. But his first big mistake. And maybe it wasn't a mistake because he won. And I can't deny the fact that he won the 16 elections. He just did it differently than I would have. He did it by becoming a far right evangelical Republican, which he's not. That's the biggest, laughable joke I've ever seen. Watching him stand there with him. Let me put it to you this way. How do you think the Republicans would have reacted if Barack Obama had been married three times and had kids from three different wives?

[Joe Susher]

Well, I think it would have been outrage.

[Jesse Ventura]

Exactly. And yet the evangelical right totally embraces Trump. I mean, what hypocrisy is that? And so when he joined the far right, that's when he really lost me. And then what really put him over the edge with me, where I had no time for him anymore. I didn't agree with the guy on everything, but when he trashed John McCain. Yep. Yeah. Because John McCain was a POW, spent a great deal of time in the Hanoi Hilton.

[Joe Susher]

That had to be hard on you to hear him say that.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, I'll tell you, when he did that, I thought you a draft dodger. And let me tell you something, a little story here. Every guy that served in the military as an enlisted man can relate this same story. Doesn't matter if you're Marine, Navy, army, whatever. You know, the first night of boot camp, you'll go to boot camp the first night, and one guy there in the middle of the night will go crazy, schizophrenic, wet the bed, cry for his mom, go nuts in the middle of the night. The authorities will come in and remove him while you're in boot camp. Out of sight, out of mind. That's the last you see or hear of that person. You don't know what becomes of them. Well, I think I can confidently say that person would have been Donald Trump. Who would Wet the bed, cry for his mom, and do everything else to get out of going. And what he did to John McCain, I'll never forgive him for. And then when he comes out and calls us Vietnam guy suckers. Well, you know, we didn't have rich fathers. He's your typical rich white boy who didn't have to go, you know, there's only one rich white boy I know that went. You know who that was?

[Chris Reivers]

Kerry.

[Jesse Ventura]

Huh?

[Joe Susher]

Kerry.

[Jesse Ventura]

No. Went in the military and went to Vietnam.

[Joe Susher]

McCain.

[Jesse Ventura]

No. Rich White boy. Oliver Stone.

[Joe Susher]

I also mentioned John Kerry. Wasn't he a rich white guy?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, I don't know. But my personal is Oliver Stone, right? Because you know that in Platoon, the Charlie Sheen character is Oliver Stone, okay?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Jesse Ventura]

I learned that from his son Sean. Because I said to Sean, I worked with Shawn and I asked Shawn one day, I said, shawn, I said, when your dad did Platoon, I said, the Charlie Sheen character, I said, that was him, wasn't it? And Shawn kind of looked around, looked at me and nodded and said, yeah. So the Sheen character is because remember when he's there and he quit the big Ivy League school, joined us, the infantry go to Vietnam, and the black actor goes, man, we got to see a crusader.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Remember that?

[Kenny Olson]

I do remember that.

[Jesse Ventura]

What we got here as a crusader. I'll always laugh over that scene. But no. And you know, Trump was a rich white boy. Rich white boys didn't go to Vietnam. I grew up in South Minneapolis where if you could manage to go to college, it did. But if you had to go to work, guess where you ended up? Vietnam. You know, and so I've got those scars that I carry with me. And when I hear someone like Donald Trump insult people who have more guts than he would ever have, and it bothers me every time I see him salute as the Commander in chief. And I don't know how these people run around with the flag. And then he comes out and says he's the most patriotic American comes out and he wants his face up on Mount Rushmore. Right.

[Joe Susher]

What do you think of Joe Biden?

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't much.

[Joe Susher]

Try not to.

[Jesse Ventura]

In a way, maybe we needed Joe because he's level headed and he's the exact opposite of Trump. You know, maybe that, but to me personally, we needed someone independent, but they made sure this was the year to do it, but they made sure you couldn't. The Green Party blew it with me. You know, I went to them and said, if you'll give me A clear path to your nomination. I'll run. They wouldn't do it. They did a preliminary poll, Fox News. It was unbelievable. They put Trump, Biden and me up there and I pulled 18% not even running. And in a three person race, Joe, I can tell you I only need 20 more. But then of course, you got to work in the electoral college, which throws it all out of whack.

[Joe Susher]

What do you think of the direction the Democratic Party is taking? Is it any different than the direction the Republican Party is taking? In other words, are we going to the extremes on both sides?

[Jesse Ventura]

On certain things, but then on other things they're right. Singing Kumbaya like they always do together. Like if it's time to go to war in the Middle east, they got no problems with that. Singing Kumbayan Both getting. See, they're all controlled by their corporate donors and the corporations are the ones that dictate where the Democrats and Republicans are headed.

[Joe Susher]

What do you think of the so called squad? Ilhan Omar, Ania Pressley, Alexandria, Occasional Cortex and Tashib, whatever her name is.

[Jesse Ventura]

What do I think of them?

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

They were elected by their constituents and their congresswomen in the United States and deserve the full respect. It's that simple.

[Joe Susher]

All right.

[Jesse Ventura]

They were. Hey, Omar wins huge.

[Joe Susher]

I know. She does. Yes.

[Jesse Ventura]

And those are her people. That's who she represents. They want her. Give her her due.

[Joe Susher]

You have a better attitude about it than I do.

[Jesse Ventura]

To me, it always. Joe goes back for the people.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

And she. Hey, I thought that one guy, that soft spoken black guy might take her.

[Joe Susher]

Lacey Johnson.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, no, no, no. The guy in the Democratic primary.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, okay. His name's escaping me.

[Rookie]

Yeah, I can see his face.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah. Boy, he had money. Geez. He was running an ad every 10 minutes, damn near, it seemed like, and she blasted him right out. And so obviously she is extremely popular with her constituents and that's. Isn't that what she's supp.

[Joe Susher]

I can't argue with that fact. Yes.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, you obviously don't live in her district.

[Joe Susher]

No, I do not.

[Jesse Ventura]

And you probably wouldn't move there.

[Joe Susher]

Kenny Olson does.

[Kenny Olson]

I do, Governor. Actually, I live really close to Roosevelt, Governor, and I gotta feel like I'm not.

[Jesse Ventura]

Does she represent Roosevelt?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, she represents that district down there in South Minneapolis. And I don't feel like I'm represented at all. Not at all, sir.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, then move.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah, actually the house is on the market.

[Joe Susher]

Jesse, you were thinking of Antoine Melton. Mew.

[Jesse Ventura]

There you go. Yeah, yeah, there you go. I mean, he had those ads. And I thought, gee, he's a soft spoken, very intelligent man. And maybe because she's so controversial, he'll beat her. Shoot, she blew him out of the water, and then she took care of the other guy. So it's clear that her constituents like her. And as far as the other three throughout the country, what's the matter with getting their opinion?

[Joe Susher]

All right, what are you. Where do you.

[Jesse Ventura]

Joe, we're supposed to be the melting pot of the world, right? We're supposed to be the place where everybody comes to and survives, and we are the epitome. I've already come out and said we ought to take down the Statue of Liberty and put it in a damn museum because we don't follow the thing on it. We don't want your poor no more. We don't want your downtrodden. We only want your rich people and them that have jobs.

[Joe Susher]

Where do you stand on Trump's refusal to concede?

[Jesse Ventura]

It's ridiculous. It's utterly ridiculous. He's harming the country. He's playing into the hands of anybody that wishes ill to this country. Because if you can get the people of this country to not believe their elections, which I think it's an insult to all those people out there that defied the COVID virus, busted their asses and counted those votes, Democrats and Republicans, they were all watched. Even Trump's main guy in Homeland Security said this was possibly the most secure election we've had in this century. And for him to pull the crap he's pulling now because he can't face. He lost. Right. It's, you know, what type of example. And I guess to his followers, they think he's wondering.

[Joe Susher]

Yes, they do. Yes. Well, 72 million people voted for the man.

[Jesse Ventura]

I know.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

That's what causes me to take a deep breath and go, boy, I didn't realize there were 72 million. Hang on.

[Joe Susher]

Watch yourself, buddy. Watch yourself, buddy.

[Kenny Olson]

Tread lightly.

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm not running again, so I don't have to please nobody.

[Joe Susher]

That's true.

[Kenny Olson]

Then let them have it.

[Jesse Ventura]

Governor running. And I laughed when I went to Wheelock Whitney's funeral.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Arne Carlson, Governor Carlson was there. He got up, he said one of the funniest lines I've ever heard out of him. And unfortunately was at Wheelock's funeral, he said, everybody tells me, run, Arnie, run. He goes, hell, I can barely walk.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, speaking of that, Governor, when Trump did win the election back in 2016, I believe it was Joe or somebody on the show said, that you running in 98 laid the groundwork for him being elected in 2016?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, we didn't necessarily lay the groundwork for him, but we did a little because he came and met with me.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, he did?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, God, yes. I'm forever getting pictures sent to me that I refused to sign.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, interesting. Together. No, he flew in here to meet with me. And the big thing he took from me, that you'll all know, and this is what he took from me when I ran for governor of Minnesota. I didn't do fundraisers. I didn't give a crap about the money, all right? I had name recognition as long I won the governor. I only raised $300,000, Joe.

[Joe Susher]

Really?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah. And that year, the Dems and Republic spent combined 12 million to beat me. And I won. So I raised 300 grand and I told my people, I said, look, I don't want to do fundraisers. I hate them, I dislike them. My mom and dad raised me. You get paid for work done. You don't come up to people and say, give me money so I can go do this job. But I realize it's a necessary evil. You have to do ads and you have to do all that stuff. But today it's evolved into jobs. Every one of these campaigns are nothing but jobs. Things where people get paid. It's all the transfer of money. Anyway, that aside, I. When I ran raising $300,000, I went out and I told them, book every college in Minnesota. And they told me, are you crazy? They said, college kids don't vote. I said, they've never had a chance to vote for Jesse the body. I said, are you kidding me? I said, if you book me at the college, they'll be hanging from the rafters and those kids are going to vote. So they did it.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah, they did.

[Jesse Ventura]

I went to all the colleges and it was just like I thought, kids. I went to Carleton. I went to the exclusive schools here. Went to all kids hanging from the rafters. Couldn't, you know. Then they came to me and said, look, you can't coach football on Friday night. We need you to campaign. And I said, baloney. I said, I coach in the toughest league in the state, which we were at the time. We drew 8,000 people to 10,000 people to every game, every night. I said, if you can put me in front of 8,000 people every Friday night, then I won't coach. He said, well, we can't do that. I said, then get out of here. I'm coaching. I'm in front of 8,000 people every Friday night. You know when I knew I was going to win the election?

[Joe Susher]

When?

[Jesse Ventura]

When we were playing, I was at Champlin park and we were playing our arch rival, Coon Rapids, right across the river in their stadium, right? We go over there to play them, their arch rival, Coon Rapids, Champlain. And on the other side of the field, the Coon Rapids side, they unreeled a banner, said, go, Jesse, go. Really nice. And I stood for a minute and thought, now they're a rival and if they took time to make a banner, I'm going to win this thing. But anyway, getting back to Trump and all that, what I did, I went to rallies. I went to things where people gathered. And I'll tell you this, if they show up at a rally, they're voting for you.

[Joe Susher]

Right?

[Jesse Ventura]

Because they ain't going to take time to go there.

[Joe Susher]

Well, he certainly seized on the rally idea.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, yes. And that's the big thing he stole from me was the rallies. I didn't raise money. I held rallies. And we did that on the college campuses. And you won't remember because it's not near and dear to you, but I have it framed downstairs in the enemy newspaper and it says, ventura wins the day after the election. And right underneath it in the sub headline, throngs of young voters turn out.

[Joe Susher]

Yes, they did.

[Kenny Olson]

That's what I was going to.

[Jesse Ventura]

Number one, I was right, which always makes you proud. And number two, that I inspired the young people to get out there and become players and that I will give Trump credit for this last election. Because of him, it inspired more people to vote than in the history of this country. And he deserves a kudos for that. The only thing is he did it because he was so shitty.

[Kenny Olson]

Governor, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you have a record number of voter registrations on the day of the election? Didn't we see a huge spike that day in registration?

[Jesse Ventura]

You mean way back in 98?

[Joe Susher]

Yes.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah. When you were.

[Jesse Ventura]

We had same day registration. And what we heard that day, when we realized we were going to win or felt we could, was that word came us that the same day registration, which Minnesota has the lines to registrate were longer than the voting lines. And that was a key for us. We thought, they're not coming out to vote for a Dem or a republic. They're coming out to vote for something different. And sure enough, we were right because they predicted a 50% voter turnout because it was non presidential. Well, I was polling 27% the day of the election, it turned out to be a 60% voter turnout, and I went from 27 to 37. There was 10% out there that they did not account for. That came out and voted for me.

[Chris Reivers]

Governor, it's Reivers. I was a sophomore at Mankato State University. And I remember when you came through town and it was. There was buzz, but three of my buddies and I got in my car and drove back to our hometown of Faribault just to place a vote. And there was a buzz that day on campus. So you were right about the college talents for sure.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, I knew it would. My message to the kids was, you complain a lot, but they're not going to listen unless you become a player. You've got to take an active role in electing them to their jobs, then they will pay attention to you. If you're not an active player in them getting a job, they're going to ignore you from now until you're old.

[Joe Susher]

Did you always have an antagonistic view of the media? Does that stem from your wrestling days?

[Jesse Ventura]

Could have, yeah. That's very perceptive of you, Joe. Could have. Because, you know, in my day in pro wrestling, we used to live under a common term, and that was there is no bad publicity.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

As long as they're talking, you don't care whether it's good or bad as long as they're talking.

[Joe Susher]

But you seem to assume that the press was against you the moment you

[Jesse Ventura]

got elected because they were.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

That the press is in the pocket of the two parties. You know, they don't like any outside interference from any third entity or anything like that. And if they don't do it consciously, they do it subconsciously.

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[Joe Susher]

Why were you so hard on the city of St. Paul? It was funny. But you were hard on St. Paul in what way? Oh, you said the streets were laid out by drunk Irishmen and stuff like that.

[Kenny Olson]

Well, that was funny.

[Jesse Ventura]

Here's the reason why. That was David Letterman.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

And he set me up. And what could I do? Yeah. No, you gotta remember, Joe, I'm from Minneapolis.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

So I'm a Minneapolis kid. Yep. Now in Minneapolis, I grew up on 32nd street and 46th Avenue.

[Kenny Olson]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, exactly. If somebody's on 38th street, that's six blocks away, right?

[Kenny Olson]

Yep.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, and it's all. It's that way. And then if it switches and goes to names, they're alphabetical, right?

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Jesse Ventura]

St. Paul. In my whole life, take me over there, spin me around four times, take off the blindfold, and I wouldn't have a clue where I was.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes, he's right.

[Jesse Ventura]

Even after four years at the Capitol, I still.

[Joe Susher]

So as a kid, you didn't spend any time in St. Paul?

[Jesse Ventura]

The only time I spent in St. Paul, a friend of mine in the neighborhood, his father and mother were divorced and his dad lived over in St. Paul. And there used to be an old store over there that sold the classic comic books.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

And we used to ride the Lake Street Selby bus to downtown St. Paul because we knew where this store was. And we would buy these classic comic books there because they had them all. And that was my only dealing with St. Paul other than when the St. Paul kids would come to our side of the river and we'd fight with them. Yeah. The reason that happened was because in my day, St. Paul was a bunch of greasers and Minneapolis were the bald eaters.

[Joe Susher]

Okay, okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, in Minneapolis, we were all shaving our heads. And in St. Paul, they all used brook cream.

[Chris Reivers]

Right.

[Rookie]

A little dad will do that.

[Jesse Ventura]

And they walked around with them pointed toed shoes with the elastic on the sides. See, the thing that was unique then was the two cities were as different as night and day.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

The kids were different. Everything was different between the two cities. And that was kind of neat.

[Joe Susher]

I agree. I wish we still had that rivalry.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah, yeah. And then of course, the other rivalry, Joe, was hell, St. Paul ain't beat us in a Twin City football game in what, 18 years when I was there. And we prevailed. How much of your Roosevelt? We were undefeated. We played St. Paul Central in the Twin City title game and beat them 21 to 6 at the Old brick house. And they had A team or St. Paul Central had Dave Winfield there.

[Rookie]

You referenced football earlier in champlin park in 98. Wasn't that the year that Creighton out recruited you guys?

[Jesse Ventura]

No, that was the year we beat them down at the Dome.

[Rookie]

Okay.

[Joe Susher]

That's where it was.

[Jesse Ventura]

Creighton was undefeated and they had beaten Maple Grove on the way there, which Maple Grove was our second place team in our division. So I let it be known to Greg Gagne and Verne and their kid played for Crete. Greg's kid Yep. I said, well, you might have beat our second team, but you ain't gonna beat our first team. We went out and ended Cretin Durham Hall's undefeated season.

[Kenny Olson]

Nice.

[Joe Susher]

Did you have a great relationship with your mother and father?

[Jesse Ventura]

I'd like to think so.

[Joe Susher]

Is your personality shaped by your upbringing, do you think?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was a latchkey kid.

[Joe Susher]

What's that mean?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, that means you both your parents work okay.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

In the morning I'd get myself off to school, right? And I'd get home before they'd get home. And so they used to call that a latch key.

[Rookie]

Put a little key on the rope. And that was your necklace.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I didn't have to do that. I forget where we kept ours. Hidden some damn. Under a flower pot or something.

[Rookie]

Under the carpet. Where George kept the money?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah, where George got the money. Right.

[Joe Susher]

Jesse Rookie has told that story. I would really love to hear it from you. It's a very charming story.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, my dad. My mom and dad both lived through the Depression, right? And so my dad had kind of a feeling of not trusting banks fully. And we had moved from south Minneapolis after I graduated up to New Hope, close to North Memorial. So my mom was still working there, and we moved into the house up there. And my dad, of course, he was retired. He would spend all summer at the lake cabin and my mom would go up on the weekends, right? And so. But my mom liked that because when he was up there in the summer, she could do anything she wanted with the house in town, right? And he wouldn't know she'd have it done before and he'd never notice. Anyway, so he goes up to the lake, right? My mom had ordered, got all set up for new carpeting. So the old man's up at the lake and the new carpet guys come in and they lay in all the new carpet and the split level out in New Hope. And fortunately, they were honest carpet men because when they tore up in my dad's TV room, where he used to go watch TV all the time, he had slipped the carpet and I don't know if it was 10,000 bucks or something like that. I can't remember anymore, but it was in the thousands. He had had it in envelopes and he had slid it under the carpet.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, my word.

[Jesse Ventura]

And that was his hiding place, right? So these guys pull up the carpet and there's, I don't know, eight, six thousand bucks, whatever it was. And fortunately, they were honest men because the guy walked down with it and handed it to my mom.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

And he said, we found this under the carpet in the room right up there. Of course, my mom gets angry and hits her. That damn George. What the hell is he doing? And so she's now going to make him sweat.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

So she goes up to the lake that weekend, and I know about it. We all know. And she informs my dad, and his name was George, and I had a relationship. I called him George. And my friends did too. He was just. That's the way he liked it. And so she tells George she has ordered new carpet. And the new carpet men came in and put on all new carpet. And they're all over da, da, da, da. Bragging about it, right? He's sitting there, right? And all of a sudden, you know, he's in a cold sweat. He knows what's there and she ain't saying nothing about it.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

So he. She makes him sit there all the way till right before dinner, right? Yeah. And when he's sitting down for dinner, she walks out from the bedroom with the envelopes, flops him on the table and said, is this what you've been thinking about? Naturally, he had to admit he had. And then she proceeded to chew his ass out and warned him to never do that again. He said, like she said, what if something happened to you? I wouldn't know. The kids wouldn't know. No one would know that you had this money stored.

[Chris Reivers]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

So anyway, that was the story, and it was pretty good.

[Joe Susher]

That is a pretty good one. That is a pretty good one.

[Jesse Ventura]

The better one was the first time we got him to try pot.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, I gotta hear this. I gotta hear this.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I don't know if I dare tell it, Joe. It ain't legal here yet.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, hell, you're all. It's a statute of limitations has run out.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know what?

[Kenny Olson]

I. It just so happens I want to hear your. Your opinions on the legalization of marijuana first.

[Jesse Ventura]

I've talking to Governor Waltz about it. He wants to make me the point man. I'm for complete legalization. Mm.

[Kenny Olson]

Why is that?

[Jesse Ventura]

Why, Joe? Okay, I'll give you tell you exactly why cannabis has changed and given me my life back.

[Joe Susher]

Really?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yep. Without it, my life would be gone right now.

[Joe Susher]

In terms of a pain fighter, you mean?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, and it ain't even me, but my life would be gone.

[Joe Susher]

I see.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, she had some health issues.

[Jesse Ventura]

She has given me permission to go public. Okay. Because of the reasoning, the first lady developed a late.

[Joe Susher]

What? You just broke up a moment?

[Jesse Ventura]

Because I'm getting Another call through. It's beeping, so I'll. She developed a late in life seizure condition.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

She was seizing two to three times a week.

[Rookie]

Holy. She's.

[Jesse Ventura]

They were bad. Out of control. What can I do? Seizures. For those that don't know out there, you are so helpless when someone gets a seizure because all you can do is comfort them and hope they don't swallow their tongue. Hope they don't. Something else doesn't happen and all that. Well, we go to the doctor. They put her on four different seizure medications, one after the other after the other after the other. None of them work. Bad side effects. She started losing her hair in desperation. We had friends from Baja, where I live in the winter, who live in Colorado. We drove to Colorado. She had a seizure the night before in the motel. We get to Colorado, my friends go in, they got the cards at the time, they get the medicinal at that time. Three drops under the tongue. Terry started taking it. Three drops under the tongue twice a day. And has not had a seizure since.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, wow, fantastic.

[Jesse Ventura]

Has not. Let me repeat that. Has not had a seizure since.

[Joe Susher]

Boy, oh boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

Now we come back to Minnesota. Minnesota. Then legalize. We were getting it illegally, but I didn't give a damn.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, I was telling Terry, let's move to Colorado. Yeah, let's get the hell out of here. And so then Minnesota, legalized medicinal. Oh, she can get it here now. But you want to know what the problem is? We're so. We're so. What's the word I'm looking for? Limited. That what she has to take cost me $800 a month.

[Rookie]

Wow.

[Jesse Ventura]

You can't write it off. Your. Your insurance won't pay for it because it's pot or cannabis. None of that. I could get the same thing in Colorado for a hundred dollars a month.

[Joe Susher]

Why don't you?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, that's what I have to do. Because she wants to get it here in pill form and da, da, da, da. And she goes down there and she's comfortable in what she's getting. And right now I care more about her health than the money. But the point being, if we would open up like Colorado has, the prices would then drop way down and people could get cured of sicknesses that this amazing plant can do. I spoke at the national cannabis convention two years ago. Years ago. It's a, what, $40 billion industry waiting to happen. Right? And we're standing. I tried to legalize when I was governor, and we're standing on the shore watching the ship leave the Harbor. We're on the dock and the ship's leaving. Did you hear about Illinois? Illinois, legalized in these trying times. And in the month of July, $71 million worth of cannabis in just the state of Illinois. Wow, 71 million. It's keeping their economy up, for Christ's sake. I mean, you're stuck in your house. What else can you do but smoke pot?

[Joe Susher]

Why? Why? You could live anywhere you want in the world. Why have you remained in Minnesota?

[Jesse Ventura]

Terry. Okay, she has family.

[Joe Susher]

Yep.

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I acquiesce. Or what's the word? Acquiesce. Acquiesce, whatever it is, to her wishes, you know, and that. You know. And she lets me get away to Mexico in the winter.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

But that's the reason, really, I hate winter. I'm probably one of the few. Here's a good garage logician thing. I'm probably one of the few born and raised Minnesotans that don't know how to skate.

[Joe Susher]

I know you don't, because I played with you media hockey, and you were so dreadful, we had to put the goalie equipment on you.

[Jesse Ventura]

You didn't play goalie.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah, you did.

[Jesse Ventura]

Bull crap.

[Chris Reivers]

What'd you play?

[Jesse Ventura]

I never played Go. I used to get a hat trick. No. Yes. No. Yes. Because they'd bend the rules for me. I didn't have to worry about offsides.

[Joe Susher]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

And there was another little thing we did. I carried my own puck, went down to the other end, I dropped the puck and go in and score.

[Joe Susher]

I swear we put goalie pads on you.

[Jesse Ventura]

No. In fact, the greatest game I ever had, I was playing in the Make a Wish game, and I was teammates with a guy who had a huge run in. And we were both laughing about it so hard in the locker room. The great rough tough from Slap Shot. Jack Carlson.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, yeah. Yep.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I don't know if you know the story behind Jack and I. I don't. Well, I was doing wrestling in the AWA days with Vernon. Right. In those days, Fern would bring people on that he knew at the U and all that during interviews. And one day he brought on Lou Nanny. And Lou goes on and does this interview with Vern, and they're done, and I got the next interview. So I went out there and I looked at that and said, oh, before we get to wrestling, I said, let me send a message here to one Mr. Lou Nanny. I said, nanny, anytime you want to find out how tough your tough guy is, Jack Carlson, I said, let him try me once. And we'll find out how tough Jack Carlson is. And then I went on to the wrestling interview, because in those days, you could do them that way. It was great. Well, what happened was, at the time, they played at the old Met. The old Met in Bloomington.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah. Met Center. Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, at the Met center, they put up big banners up there. Ventura, Carlson in the parking lot. And they had all this schmazz going on through this, that Jack and I were going to fight, find out who was tougher. And when it came down, years later, we're playing in the Make a Wish. We're on the same team. And so we're getting dressed in the locker room, and we started talking about it, and we're both laughing like hell at how the whole thing exploded in the media. And then I looked at Jack. I says, jack, we're on the same team tonight. I don't even know how to skate. But let's set this up. Let's you and I fight tonight.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

And we'll fight on the same team.

[Joe Susher]

Yes. Yes.

[Jesse Ventura]

So Jack says, great. So we go out there and the game gets going, and I get on the ice and I'm trying to stay upright, and Jack, it gets in the corner and Jack's out there. And so we both bump into each other, and right away we drop the gloves and we start throwing the forearms at each other and pulling the shirt off and all that stuff. And the announcers going, oh, we knew it had to happen,

[Joe Susher]

but they're on the same team.

[Jesse Ventura]

And so, you know, Jack and I did the phony fight and both of us got sent to the penalty box.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, I think that's ringing a bell. I think I was there.

[Jesse Ventura]

I gotta tell you this. What a wonderful guy he was.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Or is. Yeah. You know, I mean, total sense of humor on it. Went along with the program just great. And it's a shame he was in the playoffs and not in Slap Shot.

[Joe Susher]

Right. Governor, what's your relationship with Tim Walz?

[Jesse Ventura]

Very good.

[Joe Susher]

Do you like the way he's handling the pandemic?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yep. All right. And I'll tell you why. I have a good relationship with him.

[Chris Reivers]

All right?

[Jesse Ventura]

After he won election, and I know how exciting it is to win, then 24 hours later, he called me personally and scheduled a meeting with me. No other governor has ever done that. Never.

[Joe Susher]

Interesting.

[Jesse Ventura]

No other Dayton or Pawlenty never asked me about nothing. And Governor Waltz set it up for the following Monday. I went to the Capitol. He and I sat in a room by ourselves for, I would say, close to Two hours. And all he wanted to do was pick my brain.

[Joe Susher]

Why do you think so many people in this state resist his edicts? They resist keeping their gatherings small. They resist the mask wearing. They resist the social distancing. Why in the world has this had to become political?

[Jesse Ventura]

Because they're stupid.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

Is that a good quick answer?

[Joe Susher]

Yes, it is.

[Rookie]

Right to the point.

[Jesse Ventura]

Right to the point.

[Joe Susher]

I couldn't come up with a better one myself.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, they are. This is utter stupidity. Masks work. Like I said, my mom wore 140 hours a week. And my argument to these people is, okay, the next time you have to go in for surgery, tell the doctors and nurses they don't have to wear masks. They don't do nothing. See what kind of response you get, you know, from the doctors and nurses if you do that. No, it's called stupidity. And it's called turning something that shouldn't be political, that is a health issue, into politics. And we have only the guy in the White House to thank for ends. The buck stops with him.

[Joe Susher]

As you look back on your life, are you proud of the fact that you were governor?

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, God, yes. Yeah. Oh, how would you not be? Joe, when I grew up in south Minneapolis, the last thing that would have ever passed my mind was that I would end up the governor of the state.

[Joe Susher]

I can imagine that would never have crossed your mind.

[Jesse Ventura]

Never. I fell into politics, really, by a mistake. Really, it was just over an issue up in Brooklyn Park, a neighborhood issue. And when I saw how corrupt the actual politics were, I just felt the need to participate and do something about it.

[Rookie]

Who was the shrub gate? Who was that? Bob.

[Jesse Ventura]

That was Bob Stromberg.

[Rookie]

Bob Stromberg, Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Shrub gate. What?

[Joe Susher]

Shrub gate.

[Rookie]

He had the city cutting his own shrubs. And that was.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah. No. I got a phone call from a constituent. I'm mayor. And she says, why are the city crews over at Councilman Stromberg's house doing his landscaping? And I said, well, I didn't know there were. They said, you ought to take a drive by. So I jumped in my car, drove over. They even had a team out there with the signs, oh, boy, you know, go and stop, you know. And they're trimming his, you know, because he had a sweet deal with Denny Palm. They had a Parks and Recs. And so you know how they had to get around it. I took it public. And they then had to offer that service to everyone in the city of Brooklyn Park.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

Wow. Otherwise, he was receiving something a regular citizen couldn't receive. You can lose your job for that as a city councilman or a mayor. You can't receive something that any other citizen can't receive. And he's sitting there getting the city of Brooklyn park doing his yard work.

[Joe Susher]

You know, you're considerably younger than Joe Biden, who will be 78. You are younger than Donald Trump. Do you think that you have a run in you as president of this country left? Yes.

[Jesse Ventura]

To be honest, yes. The only way I could do it, but the only way I'd have enough to do it was the way I explained it to the Greens. If you'll give me a clear path to the nomination.

[Joe Susher]

Meaning what? Explain that. Explain that.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, a clear path means I don't want to go through like with the Green Party. They're fractured and they're a party in disarray and I would have had to fix them first and then take on the Dems and Repubs. Impossible.

[Joe Susher]

Because what I will say about you, and I've always said it, no matter how much fun I've had with you, this country, I think, is desperately hungry for someone who is real. And you're real. What I'm hearing is what you get. That's you. That's a virtue in my estimation.

[Jesse Ventura]

What's the difference between me and Trump is what I tell the truth.

[Joe Susher]

Okay, well, that'll prove to be the difference between you and Biden as well. What you hear from you. What you hear from you is real.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, it's the truth as I know it, Joe. And I'm not above changing my mind. Right. You know, and by the way, did you know the story? I should tell you this. We got a few minutes yet, right? Sure. Did you hear the story about what happened to my TV show?

[Joe Susher]

No.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, you guys need to hear this one. Okay. I come out of office in O3, right?

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm the hottest commodity out there.

[Joe Susher]

That's right.

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm the. I'm the voice of the independent. Been successful. So msnbc, CNN and Fox get a bidding award for me. MSNBC wins. So I signed a three year contract with them. This contract, Joe, was like a pro sports contract. Not as big as, you know, Peyton Manning.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

But it was healthy. Yep. So I sign a three year deal with them. I'm supposed to be on Rachel Maddow's time slot, Right. Monday through Friday. I tell msnbc, look, I want to do the show from Minnesota here. Yeah. They said, why? I said, because all we get from you are coast perspective. We need something from the Midwest.

[Rookie]

Clever.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I Said, my show is going to come from the Midwest and I want a live audience so that we get live people responding, you know, like Bill Maher, right? Live audience. They're good with it. They send their people out. The whole show's being created. We're doing it over at Channel 2. I provided, I think, 28 jobs to Minnesota. They're working on this show, people I didn't know, 28 jobs. We're about two weeks before going on the air, and we get a phone call. This is the spring of 03, right? And here I didn't get the call, but John Woodley did, who was working with me, had been my head of communications, was now with me on the TV show. Woodley gets the call from headquarters of cnn or not cnn, msnbc. And you know what MSNBC stands for, don't you?

[Rookie]

I'm afraid to ask.

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm afraid to Microsoft, NBC. No, it's a. It's. It's a dual ownership between NBC and Microsoft. Bill Gates, okay? That's why it's msnbc.

[Joe Susher]

All right.

[Jesse Ventura]

Microsoft, NBC. So we get a call from the headquarters. Woodley does. Here's the call. And it's right before we're going to invade Iraq. We haven't done it yet, but the drums are beaten. And I oppose the war. I opposed it from the start. We get the call. Is it true Governor Ventura doesn't support the invasion of Iraq? John Woodley goes, oh, yeah, he's a Vietnam veteran. He's vehemently opposed. He said, this is Vietnam all over again. Second question. Is there any chance he change his mind or no, he opposes the war in Vietnam. Is there any chance he changes mind? Was the next question. And Woodley goes on, I don't think so. He says, I've seen the governor change his mind when he becomes more educated on a subject. But he said, this is a war thing. He's a veteran. And he said, I doubt it. He ain't going to change his mind. Well, guess what happened?

[Kenny Olson]

They can do plug.

[Jesse Ventura]

They pulled the plug on the whole show at the same time. They had just brought back Phil Donahue from daytime. Phil Donahue likewise opposed the invasion of Iraq. They pulled Phil Donahue and he was their top rated show. So they pulled their top rated show. They wouldn't put me on because of the fact we opposed the invasion of Iraq. So tell me why I should trust mainstream media when they're clearly under the control of the government. If they have the power to keep you off the air because of a political position, you have what was in

[Joe Susher]

it for them to be so strongly in favor of the war in Iraq?

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't know.

[Rookie]

Weekly updates, ratings, advertising.

[Jesse Ventura]

It's because they get marching orders from the government and they're all entwined together. Because. Because our media promotes the government. Right. Whatever the government decides to do.

[Joe Susher]

Please tell me you got some money out of that deal. They just couldn't pull the. He had a contract.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, I got it all, okay?

[Rookie]

The governor does not walk away empty handed.

[Jesse Ventura]

I can guarantee you that rookie doesn't call me Midas for nothing.

[Rookie]

You're right. Anything this guy touches turns to gold. I'm glad you remembered that.

[Jesse Ventura]

Is there Joe? Here's what happened to me. I got silenced from 03 to 06. I had handcuffs on, I had tape over my mouth because my contract said I could not do any news shows and I could not do anything on cable or satellite tv.

[Joe Susher]

I'll be damned.

[Jesse Ventura]

They had me exclusively for three years. They paid me every penny for three years. And that's why you didn't hear from me till after 06. Because I was under a contract with them. And okay, when I went to Mexico, here's what happened. I went to Mexico on vacation. When I got out of office, Sean Penn lined me up with a great thing down there. In 04, I went and taught at Harvard.

[Joe Susher]

Yep, I remember you.

[Jesse Ventura]

Harvard fellow in, oh, five. I went back to Mexico again, traveled around, found the house I wanted and bought it. Guess who paid for it?

[Joe Susher]

Msnbc.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yes. Now it's time to teach you guys a little something about Mexican heritage or whatever.

[Joe Susher]

All right?

[Jesse Ventura]

Down there, homes are called casas, all right? Yeah, and everybody has a name to casa, right? Well, I came within an eyelash of naming mine Casa msnbc. They bought my costume and even gave me more money.

[Joe Susher]

Besides, you don't have a silo full of tortilla chips, do you?

[Jesse Ventura]

What?

[Joe Susher]

A silo full of tortilla chips.

[Jesse Ventura]

No.

[Joe Susher]

Have you ever heard the Great. Have you ever heard Will Sasso do an impression of you?

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't know.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, my God, Jesse, he's funny.

[Rookie]

He's more like, like you than you are.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, that's great. You know, that's flattery is, you know, that's finest form of.

[Kenny Olson]

Of governor. He should be writing you a check is what he should be doing.

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't care. Make a buck off doing my voice as long as he don't get me in trouble. All right, everybody, let me talk to you. Turkey. Next. No, I mean as long as he don't get Me a lawsuit or get me in trouble or anything like that. I don't care.

[Joe Susher]

What's the back up, guys?

[Kenny Olson]

Can we back up? I have, I've got this burning question for the governor and it's back to weed and your. Your health. Right now. I'm wondering how you're doing with pain and stuff from your wrestling career. And have you ever tried CBD or weed or anything for that pain?

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I've been involved in experimental medicine for a long time. Do I have pain today? Not consistent. I mean, I've had my hip replaced. You know, I had the new technique at the time in 08 called hip resurfacing. They don't actually cut your femur bone. They clean up your ball and socket, cover it with carbon titanium steel and put it back together.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, sounds painful.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, it's great. You don't have a cut femur bone, you know, and I got that through a friend in Mexico who's a triathlete. And he said that's what happens to all the triathletes. They get this hip resurfacing. But you have to be a candidate for it. I had it done at male Dr. Truesdale, the best in the business. So I've had a hip replacement. I also, I suffer from something today that I don't know if it's at all related to wrestling, but I have non specific neuropathy of the feet, which basically means your feet are numb. And when they tell you non specific neuropathy. That was Mayo, too. That means your feet are numb and we don't know why.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Rookie]

But that just means, though, that Joe might get a pretty good deal on that manual transmission Porsche, huh?

[Joe Susher]

You can't even push the clutch in.

[Jesse Ventura]

Difficult to drive it. But anyway, here's the deal with that. I have a hard time with my balance now. I can identify because people, people don't realize how much you need to feel your feet.

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Until you lose it.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

And like I've had to quit surfing.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

Because I can't balance on the board no more.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

You know, I can't have that feel, which you need to have, you know, otherwise you're going to take a lot of tumbles at the wrong time. Right.

[Joe Susher]

What year are those Porsches? What year are those cars?

[Chris Reivers]

Oh, here we go.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I got the big one. I got the one that is. It's lapis blue metallic. Yeah, it's a 2003911 biturbo.

[Kenny Olson]

Right.

[Rookie]

Was that another MSNBC buy?

[Jesse Ventura]

That was pre MSNBC all right. Bi. Turbo, I think. 450 or 500 horsepower, whatever it is, six speed. And the great thing about this car, I got all the wood on the inside steering wheel. Wood, everything. The great thing about it is, I don't think it has 23,000 on it.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

It's 17 years old and has only 22,000 miles.

[Joe Susher]

What's the other one?

[Jesse Ventura]

I've never seen a snowflake. Yeah, and right now it's in my basement of my garage here up on the things that keep the tires round. Right.

[Joe Susher]

What's the other one?

[Jesse Ventura]

The other one is. It is the first Boxster S in the state of Minnesota.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

That's a 00. And it was the first. They came out with the Boxster and then they beefed it up with the Boxster S. I got the first Boxster S ever delivered here in 00. It's Arena Red with that kind of beige interior, like convertible. And that's my More car. I drive more. But that's a.00.20 years old and it's only got. Got what, 65,000 on it?

[Joe Susher]

Did you ever have to replace the intermediate shaft bearing?

[Jesse Ventura]

Nope. Well, I've heard about that, but I haven't had to.

[Joe Susher]

I heard about it the hard way because I sold my boxer to a great young guy and two weeks later, the damn thing failed on him.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, really? Yeah, I've heard about him. I've heard about it, but I haven't. Mine's only got 65. And the guys. I take it to a great place up here in White Bear.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah. Jesse, mine had 27,000 and it went.

[Jesse Ventura]

Wow.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah, but we don't need to. We don't need to hold you with car talk.

[Rookie]

No, but what did you do with the one you had in 97?

[Jesse Ventura]

No, my 91.

[Rookie]

90.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah, that would have been my Baltic blue one.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Okay. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. No, I just sold it. I seen it one day. Yeah. All right.

[Rookie]

But now let's get back.

[Jesse Ventura]

Locally bought it, and it was up at the Porsche place that I take mine to.

[Rookie]

Okay, we've got one more weed question. And it comes from Hemp John. Come on the air, Johnny.

[Jesse Ventura]

What do you got?

[Rookie]

Remember Hemp John?

[Jesse Ventura]

Vaguely.

[Rookie]

He was the John Bernbach. He was always trying to get you on the air with the hemp legalization, et cetera, all that kind of stuff. And he was a good fan of the show way back when.

[Joe Susher]

Jesse, have we given you enough time? You've been very great.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, you know, whatever. But actually, I enjoyed coming on Today. Because with the pandemic how it is, God, you don't talk to nobody.

[Joe Susher]

Right. And plus, I'm not the media, so, you know, you've got that figured out.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, yeah, no, but it is that way. You don't talk to anybody. So when you get an opportunity to, you kind of really enjoy it when it happens, because it is. It's like we're living under house arrest now, where you got to sit in your home and, you know, check in and out and all that, but we got to do it. And I don't know how to plead with people, these people that think they're American heroes running around with their flags and no masks and all that. They need to wake up and understand that this pandemic doesn't know countries.

[Joe Susher]

When do you go to Mexico? When do you go to Mexico? Are you going?

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't think I can.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

Not this year. Because we just talked to our caretaker down there and he suggested we stay home.

[Joe Susher]

Really?

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah, because he said they're batting down down there and, you know, I imagine my health care here might be a little better if I do get it.

[Joe Susher]

I think so.

[Jesse Ventura]

Being down in the end of the Baja. Although I will say this, at least Mexico gives you credit for being an adult when it comes to. Because you can buy most drugs right over the counter down there.

[Joe Susher]

Well, I did not.

[Rookie]

It's one of the benefits, huh? One of the perks of living in the Baja.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, no, and I not talking about pot and things like that. I'm talking about your regular pharmaceutical drug.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, I see, I see.

[Kenny Olson]

How are the prices?

[Jesse Ventura]

You gotta run to the doctor to get. Yeah, right. Like an adult. You can walk in and buy the stuff. Yeah.

[Kenny Olson]

Is it expensive, is it marked up? Or is it a good price?

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't know. Just that here you need prescriptions for everything. You gotta go to the doctor. You can. Like, like I'm on blood thinners. Right, Right. I can't get more than 30 at a time.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, God, don't get me started.

[Jesse Ventura]

Blood thinners to get high.

[Kenny Olson]

Yes.

[Jesse Ventura]

There's no market for it. And when I go to Mexico, I'm in a dilemma because I go there for 90 days and they'll only give me a 30 day supply.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I go, what do I do now? Buy them off the streets down there. You know, do I get. Because I'm on the ship. What is it now? I forget. What's the name of the stuff? No, no, I'm not on either of them. I left that. Yeah.

[Joe Susher]

Coumadin Coumadin.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, no, no, no. I left the one that Arla Palmer, the golfer, advertised it.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, okay. I don't know.

[Rookie]

Zantac.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, you know, but it's another form of. Now they'll only give you 30 days of it.

[Rookie]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I say to them, but I'm leaving for 90 days.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah, that's right.

[Jesse Ventura]

What am I supposed to do? Not take it for 60. And you're an adult and you figure, can't they give you a four month supply?

[Joe Susher]

You think so?

[Jesse Ventura]

I'm gonna overdose blood thinners.

[Rookie]

This would be a great endorsement for you. I can hear it now. Doodle doodle doo doodle zorato Doodle doodle doodle zorato. Doodle doodle doo doodle zorato.

[Jesse Ventura]

I'll tell you what else is great about Mexico, Joe.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I'm considering moving. If Terry would do it, I'd move to Mexico permanently.

[Joe Susher]

The taxes, I can imagine.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, no, their whole system.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

We always knock Mexico for being stupid and corrupt and all this. Are you kidding me? Do you know how their tax system works?

[Joe Susher]

I don't.

[Jesse Ventura]

You'll know. Now, your taxes are due. Property tax. You're at home. Right. Job.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

Okay. Imagine if you lived under this. Your property taxes are due in March.

[Joe Susher]

Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

If you agree, like I do, to go down on January 28th.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

Which means February is only 28 days.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

If you go down, like I do on January 28th and pay your property taxes.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Mexico knocks off 20%.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

If you do it in February, they knock off 10%.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

If you do it in March, it's the normal price. And then, of course, April, the fine start. Oh, my. But if you pay early. Now here's my question. I do at the end of January. So in 30 days I get 20% on my money. Tell me an investment that would do

[Joe Susher]

that, I can't come up with.

[Rookie]

Once again, I give you King Midas.

[Jesse Ventura]

No. In 30 days I get 20. And now here's the. It don't end there. Here's the best part I actually was contemplating of going after dual citizenship, Mexican and US. Because if you're a Mexican citizen on the day you turn 65, your property taxes, whether you own a palatial mansion or a shack, get cut in half. Wow.

[Joe Susher]

You gotta talk Terry into the right thing here.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, they get cut in half because the Mexicans understand that you work your whole life for your home. And when you get 65, your income, it becomes harder to earn income. And they understand that. And they don't want you thrown out of your home.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

So they cut your. Imagine how many old people up here lose their houses because they're on fixed income and they keep raising taxes on them.

[Joe Susher]

That's a terrible problem. We talk about it all the time.

[Jesse Ventura]

But in Mexico, they cut your property taxes in half when you turn 65. But they're the dummies, right? Yeah. Now, here's my predicament. I was going to get dual citizenship. Right. You know what stopped me? RT no.

[Rookie]

Putin said, no way.

[Jesse Ventura]

What stopped me was part of the things you got to do to get Mexican citizenship.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

You got to be able to sing their anthem. I can't even sing ours. I knew I was dead meat at that point. The way I'm learning this.

[Rookie]

An just ripped up the paperwork and threw it away.

[Chris Reivers]

Huh.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, it all goes back to that great joke you heard about the illegal immigrant that was up here.

[Kenny Olson]

No.

[Jesse Ventura]

Yeah, he was up here. And he went to the ball game and he said, I don't know why everyone thinks that the United States is so hostile to us illegal immigrants. He said, when I went to the ball game, they all stood up at the start and asked if I could see.

[Chris Reivers]

Hold on, hold on.

[Jesse Ventura]

The crowd stood up and said, jose, can you see?

[Joe Susher]

Yeah. Boom.

[Rookie]

What was the best thing about being the governor? What was the biggest perk?

[Jesse Ventura]

Biggest perk, I would say, is the international travel.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

Because I got to go to places and be treated very exceptionally well. You know, I went to China, and I'll never forget getting an audience and sitting down for one hour with Fidel Castro.

[Joe Susher]

Oh, boy.

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, that had to be fascinating.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh. I'll tell you quickly. Castro and I became friends. Really?

[Joe Susher]

You were cozying up to Castro?

[Kenny Olson]

I never would have guessed.

[Jesse Ventura]

First of all, he told me I had to come back to Cuba and next time bring my wife and family, and he would take care of me. I never did, and I regret it today that I didn't. I imagine he would have put me up pretty good on the beach, probably, you know. And second of all, Castro was. I got the chance to sit with him for an hour, and with 20 minutes to go, I looked. I glanced down at my watch. He caught me, and he looked at me and said, I'm sorry, am I keeping you from something?

[Kenny Olson]

Oh, boy.

[Jesse Ventura]

And I thought, okay. Be honest. I said, no, sir. But I said, you've only given me one hour, and I have only 20 minutes left. And I said, I would hope I could ask you some personal questions. Castro looked at me and Said, ask me anything you want. So I said, well, I said I was about 12 or 13 years old when John F. Kennedy was assassinated. And I said, I've been studying that assassination for virtually my entire adult life. And I said, there's many scenarios that you figure very prominently in. I said, I would just like to hear your take on the day President John Kennedy was murdered. Oh, my God. I couldn't shut him up, really. The first thing he told me was it was an inside job. Second thing, he said, Oswald couldn't make the shots. You know that as well as I, right? That's what he said to me. Third, he said, a lot of people like to put the blame on me. He looked me right in the eye. He said, do I look suicidal to you? I said, no, sir. He said, well, I'm not. And he said, I love my country too much. If I would have killed Kennedy, Cuba would have been wiped off the face of the Earth, right? Yeah, that's a good point. He said, I would never put my country in that position, ever. He said it was an inside job. And then he told me, he said he believed that Kennedy was on the verge of changing his policy to Cuba, because he said at that moment, a reporter Kennedy had sent to me named Gene Daniels was setting up a clandestine meeting between Castro and Cuba, or Castro and jfk, right? And when word came in that Kennedy had been killed in Dallas, and I learned this later by looking up Gene Daniel, the reporter, when Kennedy was announced he was killed in Dallas, Daniel said, castro immediately dropped his head and stared at the floor and was silent for about two minutes. When he lifted his head up, he looked and said quietly, this is bad. This is very bad. And so having an audience for one hour with Fidel Castro, and then it even went on from there. When I announced I was not going to seek reelection one day, I was going home. I wanted to go back out to my house, and Bosak or my chief of staff said, no, you got to go to the governor's residence. I said, what for? It's Friday, you know, don't go there

[Rookie]

on Friday, you know.

[Jesse Ventura]

And he kind of looked around and whispered, cuba. I said, oh, okay. So I went to the governor's residence. I'm there. In comes the Swiss embassy car, because, you know, Cubic can have no relationship here. Back then, guy from the Swiss embassy, I bring him in, bring him in the library, sits down. He said, well, you know, I'm here on behalf of Cuba. I said, yes, sir, I know that. He said, I have a message for you from Cuba. And I said, okay, what is it? He said, the message is this. Cuba understands that you're not seeking re election, but Cuba also wants you to understand that a friend of Cuba will always be a friend of Cuba.

[Rookie]

That's pretty cool.

[Jesse Ventura]

In other words, even though I was giving up my power, Fidel. Because when he said Cuba, that's another word for fidelity, right?

[Kenny Olson]

Yeah.

[Jesse Ventura]

He said, Fidel, sending you the message, you're still my friend. He was an office or not.

[Joe Susher]

He was a murdering dictator.

[Jesse Ventura]

He. He was not in. He was better than Batista.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jesse Ventura]

Because here's your argument, Joe. I imagine there's a lot of murdering dictators when you got to take over a country. It's the nature of the business. Yeah. Second of all, Castro could have never won if the people weren't behind him. There's no way he lands with those hundred guys on the One coast and survives.

[Joe Susher]

Right.

[Jesse Ventura]

He had the people with him, so that means Batista was way worse than him. And I argue that with my Cuban friend Rick Sanchez at RT all the time. Yeah.

[Joe Susher]

I'm going to defer to you because you obviously have more experience there than I do. Pete's sake.

[Rookie]

So when the Swiss army or the Swiss car came up and he got out, you knew it was somebody important. Do you remember what happened when I came to visit you with my kids that one day when you were down in the basement? Do you remember what movie you were watching?

[Jesse Ventura]

No.

[Rookie]

Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah. It was down with that ugly yellow furniture in the basement. And you were eating a deliciously prepared. It was a cherry tart. So that's what I was hinting at when I was asking, what's the biggest perk about being a governor? So you got some guy cooking for you all the time.

[Jesse Ventura]

Oh, that's good. But that's bad too, though, because I gained a lot of weight.

[Rookie]

Ah, okay. I'll remember that when I run.

[Jesse Ventura]

And plus the other bad thing. You do nothing but go to lunches. So you're pounding in all this food and you don't get enough time to exercise. That's the great thing about the pandemic for me right now. Oh, man. I'm in the best shape I've been in in 10 years. Really?

[Joe Susher]

You're working out?

[Kenny Olson]

I saw a picture of you in August and you look fantastic.

[Jesse Ventura]

Well, I. This morning, before I did this show, I went downstairs and did 50 sets of weights. 750 repetitions.

[Rookie]

Any burpees?

[Jesse Ventura]

No, this is weights.

[Rookie]

Oh.

[Jesse Ventura]

And all in two hours. And Then I have an hour rest and then come on with you guys. But I work. And tomorrow I'll do five miles on the elliptic machine.

[Chris Reivers]

Hold on. One more thing, Governor. We've heard half the story from Rookie, but Rookie tried to tell the Arnold Schwarzenegger story, I believe, promoting the fact that you were gonna on the show.

[Rookie]

You remember your roast?

[Jesse Ventura]

Remember what?

[Rookie]

Do you remember your roast at the prom center?

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't know. I don't remember.

[Rookie]

When I came out and I had all the. I had the. The tights on, I had the big foam arms.

[Jesse Ventura]

I don't remember it. Rook. Sorry.

[Rookie]

Oh, well, it was. I did a perfect imitation.

[Jesse Ventura]

Rookie, you do so many stupid things, it's hard to recall them.

[Joe Susher]

It really is.

[Chris Reivers]

We're saving that as a liner for sure.

[Jesse Ventura]

Alone. Oh, that's so true.

[Joe Susher]

Jesse. Thank you very much and I hope we can do it again.

[Jesse Ventura]

Absolutely. Joe, I wish you well. Wish your family well. Stay safe, please. And please tell people as much as you can to wear the masks.

[Joe Susher]

We will.

[Jesse Ventura]

My God, let's get through this thing and get back to normal life in Minnesota.

[Joe Susher]

All right, I agree. Say hello to your family.

[Jesse Ventura]

You sure will. All right, you guys take care.

[Rookie]

Give the first Lady a big hug for me.

[Joe Susher]

Thank you very much.

[Rookie]

See you, brother.

[Kenny Olson]

Thank you.

[Chris Reivers]

Holy cow. Wasn't that phenomenal?

[Kenny Olson]

What an honor. God, that was fun. I've still got a whole page of

[Rookie]

questions as this was going on.

[Joe Susher]

I do, I do.

[Kenny Olson]

I have a whole bunch of things I want to talk to him about.

[Joe Susher]

He's amazing. We're on the air. Yeah, shut him up.

[Kenny Olson]

You know what that I wanted to do is I wanted to get you and the governor in a. In a cage match about the electoral college because he doesn't like it and you do. And I want to bring him back.

[Joe Susher]

I want to have him on again. Yeah, well, and he's clearly looking for stuff to do, right?

[Kenny Olson]

Cut him a check.

[Joe Susher]

I'm not cutting him a check. He'll come back for a podcast sticker.

[Chris Reivers]

The media.

[Joe Susher]

Yeah.

[Chris Reivers]

You know, that makes me want to do what? Fry up a meatloaf.

[Joe Susher]

From where?

[Chris Reivers]

Hey, I tell you what. I did what you told me to over the weekend. I got the Grundhofer Porchetta out. I put it in the crock pot. Frozen. I didn't even thought.

[Rookie]

Oh, wow.

[Jesse Ventura]

Okay.

[Chris Reivers]

I put it in frozen yesterday morning at about seven. By six o' clock, it was falling apart. It was unbelievable.

[Rookie]

What'd you put in with it?

[Joe Susher]

Nothing.

[Chris Reivers]

Absolutely nothing.

[Joe Susher]

He's doing it. All right, Jesse, lives out near Grundhofer's. It would be a very short run for him to get up to Grundhofer's. Maybe that's where I'll get there. Thanksgiving Turkey Free Range Fresh Turkeys, $2.99 a pound. You can even call ahead to Grundhofer's Old fashioned Meats in Hugo. 651-426-2800. But don't kid yourself, you still have to go to the store. When you do, you will succumb to the temptations of meatrtainment. Meatloaf brats, tomahawk steaks, Philly patties, rookie burgers, thick cut bacon, double smoked ham, you name it. And right now, Free range Fresh turkeys. It'll be the best turkey you've ever had. $2.99 a pound. This is Grundhofer's Old Fashioned Meat. It's on Highway 61. Where else? Right at the north end of Hugo.

[Rookie]

He's so close to Governor Ventura that Governor Ventura makes him call him governor. It's Joe Sushere.

[Joe Susher]

And then I ended up calling him Jesse the whole show. He called me Governor then I called him Jesse the whole show.

[Chris Reivers]

Kenny, who are you calling?

[Kenny Olson]

I'm calling Moon Motorsports. They're the family owned Palatial motorsports shop up in Monticello. They've been doing it for 50 years with a full shop, parts department and apparel division all in the house and the largest selection of ATVs side by side sleds and bikes in the region. You can see them [e-mail] Speaking of motorcycles, Honda, BMW, Triumph, Yamaha, KTM, CAN AM and Ducati. Price is always better right now in the fall and winter. That means it's time to get out there and buy a new bike. Many manufacturers are offering excellent savings right now, some with no payments until 2021. And Moon Motorsports will give you free storage over the winter for the rest of 2020 if you buy a motorcycle now. But right now also a great time to save big on Michelin and Dunlop tires. And if you buy in the next couple of weeks, that is before December 1st, Moon Motorsports are going to pick it up and deliver your bike for free. So there's a lot going on right now at Moon. Great bike deals. Can't miss offers on Michelin and Dunlop's and snowmobile season on the way. You gotta exit Monticello. Stroll on in moonmotorsports.com a good place to start. They've been making dreams a reality up in Monticello for generations Your dream bike. It's sitting there on the showroom floor waiting for you. Check it out.

[Joe Susher]

Moonmotorsports.com when we started the show today, I said, this is Garagelogic podcast number 500. We thought number 500 was tomorrow, but at 8:23am today, I got an email from Paul W. Humrickhouse, who writes. Just wanted to wish you gentlemen a happy 500th podcast today. Yes, number 500 today, Monday, November 16, 2020. Perhaps you thought you were doing 4.99 to do, but back on May 8 and May 11, you followed podcast number 380 with another podcast number 380. That makes today 500. Enjoy official garage like Garage Logic Counter. Paul. So we verified this and we can't ignore the evidence.

[Chris Reivers]

Here we go.

[Rookie]

How do we know we have it screwed up?

[Joe Susher]

Here we go. Fratelloni's Ace Hardware and Garden stores brings you Garagelogic podcast number 380. May 8, 2020.

[Rookie]

May 8, 2020. You called that 380, right?

[Jesse Ventura]

Take two.

[Joe Susher]

Fraterloni's Ace Hardware and Garden Stores brings you Garagelogic Podcast number 380. The high for this day was 88 degrees, and that occurred in 1900.

[Chris Reivers]

That was May 11th.

[Joe Susher]

There was a glitch in our counting. So today was number 500.

[Kenny Olson]

By our counting, you mean your mind.

[Rookie]

Okay, but how do we know that we haven't made a mistake from 380 to 499?

[Joe Susher]

Oh, well, let's point. Let's not worry about it.

[Jesse Ventura]

No, we're.

[Chris Reivers]

You know what, Russ? I'll go back through every single. Since day one, we had the infamous star.

[Rookie]

We can rely on our listeners to

[Chris Reivers]

do our work for us under your direction.

[Rookie]

Under my direction?

[Jesse Ventura]

Please.

[Joe Susher]

Somebody verify that those numbers are thanks to Jesse Ventura. That was great.

[Chris Reivers]

Thank you, you rookie. Great job setting that up.

[Jesse Ventura]

You.

[Rookie]

I sat through. If I told you how many hours I had to sit with him on the phone. I knew every story they told.

[Joe Susher]

He loves to talk.

[Chris Reivers]

It was fantastic.

[Joe Susher]

He's lonely.

[Rookie]

During the pandemic, if I heard this when I was on the phone with him. One more time.

[Jesse Ventura]

One final note, rook, then I'll let you go.

[Rookie]

There's about four or five of those.

[Kenny Olson]

It took every ounce I had not to ask him solely AWA questions I wanted to do was talk to him about wrestling.

[Rookie]

Because you held back. He'll come back.

[Joe Susher]

All right. Thanks, G. Yellers.

[Rookie]

Podmn. You want to hear the prior 499? You can PODMN on your smartphone or you go to podmn.com and that's on your computer. Special shout out to Fred Lorise hardware and garden stores for all of their, what would you say?

[Chris Reivers]

Years of dedication.

[Rookie]

That's good enough. Well put. I'll just shut up. I'll be over here.

[Chris Reivers]

Hey now you can do your impersonation you want.

[Jesse Ventura]

Now I don't know

[Chris Reivers]

what normally would have sponsored John Heights newscast here in the garagelogic Best of podcast. I want to thank our friends once again at North American Banking Company for their continued partnership here in the GL Podcast. And also, ladies and gentlemen, it's going to be another beautiful weekend. Head on down and go see my friends at Harmony Spirits down there in Harmony, Minnesota. I know you can't see me right now, but I am rocking my my brand new Under Armour quarter zip that I got. They've got. Even if, hey, I got a deal for you. Even if you're not into alcohol, go down there and buy their sweet gear. It's fantastic. They're my favorite shirts that I own. Anyway, go into your local liquor store, ask for the Harmony brand by name. That is how all of you are going to continue to help us support the fine folks making wonderful handcrafted spirits in Harmony, Minnesota. And like I said, go into that local liquor store, go ask for the Harmony brand by name. And if you're in the area, stop in at that tasting room. They have a wonderful selection of the rotating menu of wonderful selection, selection of craft cocktails. And say hi to Larry and Damon and the entire Harmony Spirits crew. Doesn't matter what you're looking for. The rum, the vodka, the whiskey, it's all there for you. And also we've got some exciting news coming up in the next couple of weeks on all of you GL ers that might not be in the state of Minnesota and you'll be able to help out and support our friends at Harmony Spirits down in Harmony, Minnesota. I hope you've enjoyed the best of the garagelogic podcast. Everyone will be back in studio next Monday. Everyone have a fantastic weekend.

[Joe Susher]

My name is Mackenzie and I started

[Jesse Ventura]

a GoFundMe for the adoptive mother of a nonverbal autistic child.

[Joe Susher]

The mother had lost her job because

[Jesse Ventura]

she wasn't able to find adequate care for this autistic child.

[Joe Susher]

So she really needed some help with living expenses, paying some back bills. So I launched a GoFundMe to help help support them during this crisis. And we raised about $10,000 within just

[Jesse Ventura]

a couple of months. I think that the surprising thing was by telling a clear story and just like really being very clear about what we needed, we had some really generous donations from people who were really moved

[Joe Susher]

by the situation that this family was struggling with. GoFundMe is the world's number one fund fundraising platform trusted by over 200 million people.

[Rookie]

Start your GoFundMe today at gofundme.com that's gofundme.com gofundme.com this podcast is supported by GoFundMe.

[Kenny Olson]

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[Chris Reivers]

once again that we check in with our guy, Mr. Money Talk. Josh Arnold is with us once again right here in garagelogic. And now is the time for you to do the same. So do not delay. Do exactly what I did in pick up that phone and dial 992-55-608. That number once again is 952-925-5608. When you call that number, you're going to get Josh and he is there for you for that. Free. Yes, I use the word free. 48 minute financial consultation with absolutely zero obligation. And he will always give you the straight talk. He will never give you the sugar coated advice. And he is on the line with us once again right here in garagelogic. And boy, Josh, you nailed it. Because one analyst right now has raised his price target to match you. Money Talk. When it comes to Apple.

[Jesse Ventura]

When it comes to Apple, I've had a price target of $400 a share. And this is even before Apple's stellar earnings report last week. I had felt that Apple's product and services should be worth at least $400 per share. And with the add on feature artificial intelligence being incorporated in Apple's products that would give Apple a further boost. This particular anal eyes of Evercore who's probably one of the most bullish analysts on Wall street regarding Apple and the artificial intelligence highway up his price Target today to $400 and attributes a portion of that stock price movement up to Apple's use of artificial intelligence. And he said it all starts in June with the Worldwide Developers Conference when Apple's new theory of update will be introduced. I think actually that Apple's move with artificial intelligence has started long before this update we're hearing. And given Apple being more we'll say agnostic around artificial intelligence products, especially given last year Apple generated about $900 million on applications from AI and that is increasing a little bit this year. I do think there'll be a stronger ramp as we go go forward. I have said for several years that Apple as well as Amazon and Google should be long term beneficiaries of artificial intelligence. Additionally Apple got another we'll say boost today as did intel when both Apple and Intel reached a preliminary chip making agreement on newer chip manufactured by intel for Apple products. Now it could be that these chips will be manufactured through Intel's foundry with Apple's designs much like much like Taiwan Semiconductor already does for Apple. This is this deal will be a big big deal for intel which several years ago had lost Apple's Apple's chip business. So a return, Apple's return to intel definitely adds to intel or Intel's cachet currently and we've seen intel stock in the last month go from $50 a share up to $115 a share. Now part of that has to do with other companies. These moves towards intel and intel just after they announced their earnings last week finally, finally got above 2000. I'll say October 2000 high only. Cisco is the remaining company of the big four from the late 1990s to still be below its high from 2000 could be very interesting with Cisco as it does produce an awful lot of servers and the need for servers in the build out of data centers is big. Probably find out a little bit more about Cisco's business when they report their earnings in a few weeks. Meantime artificial and companies around that still are the leaders right now in the marketplace.

[Chris Reivers]

Excellent advice as always Mr. MoneyTalk. You heard him G yellers now is the time for you to pick up the phone and make the call for that free 48 minute financial consultation again with zero obligation. And you do that just like I did by dialing 952-925-5608 where you always get straight talk and never ever sugarcoated advice. Josh, as always, thank you so much for the time and the chat. Enjoy the rest of your day, have a fantastic weekend and we'll talk to you again next week.

[Jesse Ventura]

Look forward to it.

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